Episode 1144 Scott Adams: Trump and the Campaign. What Happens to the Country's Psychology Now?
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Today on the show, we talk about the latest polls on Trump and Biden, and whether or not they are really as bad as they seem on the surface. Plus, we discuss the latest on the Coronavirus outbreak in California and the possible link between it and coronavirus.
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Well, it's time for the simultaneous sip, or as somebody on YouTube refer to it as, the concurrent chug.
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Well, you can chug or you can sip. It's very permissive here.
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So come on in, come on in. Got lots to talk about.
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But first, first, it's time for the Simultaneous Sip,
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and all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass of tank or chalice or stein,
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Fill it with your favorite liquid I like, coffee.
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And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine,
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the other day, the thing that makes everything better,
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It's called the Simultaneous Sip, and it happens now.
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I've been living in a smoke-infested hellhole for weeks now,
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but the air quality today has improved a little bit.
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but you also can't go outside because it's too dangerous.
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As others have noted, I think Jason Miller noted this first,
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did you notice that when Trump did his little video from the hospital, Walter Reed Hospital,
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did you notice, or was it, am I the only one who noticed this,
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that he didn't say a word about white supremacy?
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So, I don't know about you, but now I wonder if he's changed back to being in favor of it again.
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Because if you don't hear from him to denounce white supremacy every, I don't know,
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but at least every 24 hours he's going to have to work it into a sentence.
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Sure, he's denounced them 20, 30 times in public,
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There are two new polls coming out about Biden and Trump,
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The NBC Wall Street Journal poll shows a huge jump in support for Biden,
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and that he would be at 53% compared to Trump's 39%.
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If that's true, if this poll is even a little bit legitimate,
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Why does my nose always itch when I go on camera?
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So, in the other world, the other reality, in Zogby,
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It would be one thing if both polls showed that the direction of things was the same,
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but maybe one of them showed that it was even more in one direction than the other one did.
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I would think, well, those polls are different,
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but at least they seem to be heading in the right direction.
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based on the same world events and taken roughly at the same time,
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I'm not sure if you can trust any poll these days,
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For those of you who don't pay attention as much,
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what do you know about the NBC polls and NBC News?
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Well, I'm just telling you what's been reported.
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would tell you that the NBC polls are essentially controlled by our own intelligence agencies.
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I don't personally have any information about that.
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But smart people say that NBC is largely controlled by our own intelligence agencies.
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So what would our intelligence agencies want us to think about the upcoming election?
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They might want us to think that President Trump can't win,
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So I wouldn't trust anything out of an NBC poll.
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But if it turns out that there are other polls that agree with it,
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well, then maybe you take it a little bit more seriously.
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In my opinion, the worst take on the coronavirus goes like this.
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And I am certainly open to the idea, certainly a possibility, strong possibility, really,
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that masks don't help as much as the experts would like us to believe.
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If you said, I'm not sure if masks work, I'd say, well, there's a, that's a reasonable opinion right there.
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If you said, I'm pretty sure they do, you might be right, you might be wrong, but that's a reasonable opinion.
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It's a reasonable opinion because it would agree with the consensus of experts, as far as I know, in every major country.
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So all the major countries got on the same page, which is unusual, about masks having data to support that they work.
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So if you said, probably they work, and a lot of the experts are on the same page, even if these experts are all over the place,
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normally you expect experts to be more diverse in their opinions, but they all seem, at least the consensus, not every expert,
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but the consensus in every major country, exactly the same.
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Now, is it possible, is it possibly true, that masks don't make any difference,
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and all of the consensus of experts in all the countries are all wrong?
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Suppose you are pretty sure they don't work, but it's more of a hunch, more of a skepticism.
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Maybe you saw some studies that say, hey, the particle is only this big, but there's so many holes in a mask.
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If you looked at it under a microscope, the holes would be this size, the particle would be the size of a BB.
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How is a hole the size of a basketball hoop going to stop a BB?
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Is the air droplet small enough to go through the hole that's the size of a basketball hoop, relatively speaking?
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And the answer is, some are, some get through, some do not.
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So if some get through and some do not, what would that tell you about the total amount of virus that's being spread into the room?
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So it's not like staying within the mask, right?
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If your mask is sort of leaking out the edges, it's staying near you.
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If you take the mask off and you're a big talker,
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You're shooting a cannon of virus into the other person's mouth and eyes.
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I wouldn't rule out the possibility that if you really could study this thing,
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and apparently it's hard to study, so you really can't,
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maybe the virus coming out the side floats in the air.
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It doesn't matter that it was local to you because it all spreads out, maybe.
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If you're going to play the odds here, what's the smart way to play this?
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Well, if you've got some special condition where wearing a mask might be dangerous to you personally,
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but the consensus is very strongly, unambiguously wear a mask,
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maybe you ought to take that seriously on a risk-reward level.
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Again, doesn't mean that there's a 100% chance that they really make a big difference.
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Suppose there were a 30% chance it would make a difference.
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I would think a 30% chance that masks make a difference would be enough.
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Yeah, and even if you add into it the fact that people will touch their mask and all of that,
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all of that's been taken into consideration by the experts who study these things
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and have figured out that the data suggests that it works.
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Here's a good rule for determining what is true and what is fake in terms of the news.
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It's in my book, Loser Think, and the trick goes like this.
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If you see something reported as true on CNN and untrue on Fox News, it's untrue.
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but because there are two news organizations equally capable,
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Both Fox News and CNN and MSNBC and every other network,
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they'll have guests who will be on the side of opening up
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and taking our chances and getting herd immunity and all that.
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Next, they'll still bring on their own medical guy
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right after the guy who says maybe masks are not that important.
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They'll still bring on their medical guy to say,
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You can certainly say you're not sure if masks work,
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The logic is, might be a good chance they work,
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I've got a question about this Rose Garden super spreader situation.
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Why is one event such a spready situation and others are not?
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What would make the Rose Garden event so infectious,
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but yet let's say the normal Trump rallies were not?
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Let's say the Black Lives Matter rallies were not?
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It seems like there are a lot of things that were not,
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Well, the most obvious explanation would be this.
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There is a thing called statistical clustering.
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It's one of the reasons that you sometimes think,
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because this town has an unusual amount of a certain kind of cancer.
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found that this town has a problem with the water
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that there will be little clusters of unexplained things
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Could there ever have been a more perfect place
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But the first thing you have to ask yourself is,
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so this is a coincidence on top of a coincidence,
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it would be the most politically powerful thing to do.
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Because giving COVID to a bunch of professional politicians,
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know you'd pay more for it you'd pay a lot more
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so it's a fun idea but not entirely impractical
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of course the two movie analogy came out and so
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Sherman is let's see who is he he's a vanity fair
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special correspondent author of the loudest voice in
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the room etc so he's no no Trump supporter I'm guessing he
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said just watch Trump a hospital video a second time his
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breathing is clearly labored he seems to be leaning on
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the table for support and there's so much fear in his
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eyes what did you see any of that did you I saw him
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leaning on the table do you know why because if you're
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sitting at a table and you're and you're not leaning on
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it with your you know with your arms like this you look kind
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of dorky because you're just sitting sitting behind the
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table you have to put your your arms on the table look at look
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at somebody on camera with their arms on the table looks
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powerful you're leaning forward you're not leaning on your
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arms you're leaning in it's a power power pose so but
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Gabriel Sherman saw that as he had to be leaning for support
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again that's knowing nothing about photography any if if if Peter Duke is
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watching this and sometimes he does professional photographer Peter let me
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ask you this question true or false it's a better picture when the when the
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president is leaning forward on on a desk right now I don't know that he does I'm
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trying to remember if he does it for the addresses from the Oval Office but I
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think he does if we looked at an Oval Office address wouldn't wouldn't he be
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on the table because it just looks weak if you just your hands are by your side
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at a table or a desk and then I certainly couldn't tell that he was
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breathing having breathing difficulty I didn't see any of that and I didn't see
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any fear in his eyes did you see any fear in his eyes now of course he would
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have to be concerned about his health who wouldn't be but fear in his eyes I
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don't really see any okay all right here's another wild card for you on how
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people will process this Trump situation I asked on a Twitter poll just this
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morning I asked if based on what you know about the White House's own procedures
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for social distancing and for mask wearing is your personal family
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situation better or worse than the White House as far as what you've heard
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reported and what did you what do you think people said they said about about
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80% of the people who answered said that their family situation is similar to or
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worse in terms of protecting themselves than the White House 80% were were
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handling their own personal situation very similarly to how the White House was
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handling it for themselves now does that make it smart that the White House was
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only doing as much as average families no no medically and politically and
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everything else they should have done better but when you see the president let me put
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it in analogy terms when the president eats a fast food whether it's McDonald's or
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Taco Bell and he does it conspicuously and publicly what do the experts say well I'm
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not so sure you should be eating junk food in front of the public you're setting an
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example you know that's not really the healthiest thing maybe you should eat
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something healthier than they would eat something healthier that's what the experts
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will say right what do the voters say the voters say hey I eat at McDonald's too
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the voters say hey I eat a Taco Bell hey the president eats a Taco Bell I eat a Taco Bell
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that's what the voters say so when you see the president being lax with the social
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distancing or the White House in general and lax with the masks do you say to yourself man I don't
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do that that's not how I act and he needs to be better than me some people do some people will say
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exactly that are those were those people going to vote for the president anyway nope no they
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weren't I'm guessing that this is more of a bonding experience than anybody is ever going to
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recognize when you see your president doing the same thing that you do that doesn't make you like
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him less even if you're sure he shouldn't have done that I'm sure the president should not eat junk
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food but how do I feel when he does I feel like he's like me well he's actually he's not like me
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because I don't eat much junk food but I think he's like ordinary people and that certainly helps
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all right so those are my big points for today uh the part which will be taken out of context
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is the conspiracy theory parts so look for that today and uh have you noticed that the the the breadth
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of news just sort of stopped I have to think that there were probably other surprises that were
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waiting to happen but maybe the other surprises are on hold because you know there was going to be
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more surprise right between now and election day so you can see how the news is an artificial
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construct because it's not an accident that there's less news on holidays and weekends
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you know I mean there's a reason for that because people aren't working but there they feel like
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there's there are not even natural disasters on holidays have you ever noticed that it's as if
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it's as if the news in general knows to stop when we're not going to be paying attention and now that
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everything is about the president's health at the moment for about a week it won't matter what
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Joe Biden does in fact the only thing we're going to care about what Joe Biden does is what he does
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vis-a-vis Trump I'm not sure I use a vis-a-vis correctly there but let's say I did and so so Trump
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by no plan of his own but because he's the more interesting person in all in all cases because he's
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got a big story happening it just sucks all the attention away from Biden and while I think it was
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smart of Biden to do that that well I'm not going to do any any any hit ads but then of course he did
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them anyway that was probably a good play but it also diminishes his importance if I ask you who is
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more important the president of the United States commander-in-chief who currently has coronavirus well
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that's a 10 and a 10 you know you can't care about many things more than that except you know
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an immediate emergency but in terms of how important that is to the country to the world to your own
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psychological well-being President Trump in the hospital that's a 10 now how does Joe Biden compete
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with a 10 what's it what's his best play there's almost nothing he can do he could go around in his
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little weak-ass train tour or whatever he can talk to some donors he can do some zoom calls
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but everything that Joe Biden can do is on a scale of one to 10 is a one or maybe a two in total
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importance emotional impact relevance size wattage he so so so Biden is just gonna be shooting ones and
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two with his little BB gun while the president is in full nuclear you know maximum newsworthy mode
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while hardly trying so that's advantage Trump if I you know I said in the beginning when when this all
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broke the coronavirus stuff with Trump when this broke
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uh yeah when this broke uh I thought you have to wait a little bit to see how people are processing it
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you can't immediately guess on moment one oh well this will play out this way for him or against him
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you have to see how it's settling out a little bit and as I'm watching it start to settle
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the thing that I'm I'm seeing as a dominant theme is one Trump will get all the attention
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to he's he's more relatable probably more empathetic and probably we care about him more just because
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he's you know sick and and given the Boris Johnson effect and uh given the Reagan you know assassination
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attempt to effect if I had to bet on this I bet it's going to help him now that could be just me being
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uh you know too close to it and I've got some bias in that but I showed my reasons so now you know why
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all right that's all I got for now and I will talk to you tomorrow