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Real Coffee with Scott Adams
- October 18, 2020
Episode 1158 Scott Adams: Biden's Mansion, Facebook's Bad Fact-Checking, The Sweden Mystery, Mask Controversy
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Sentence Count
526
Hate Speech Sentences
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Hey, everybody, come on in. I didn't see you there. There's still time to get a good seat
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for the best part of the day. Yeah, how many of you are experiencing a peak moment right now
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And in order to participate in exactly the right way, which is the only way you want to do it,
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Yep, just as good as I thought it would be. I know yours was good too.
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All right. Starting with the most important news first. I saw a tweet about a product that I have
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to have. It's a pot for a plant, for an indoor plant, but it's got an animated face on the outside of the
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pot. And the face tells you how happy the plant is. So if the plant has just the right amount of water,
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the animated face is smiling. And if the plant needs a little water, it's droopy or dying. And if it's too
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hot, it does something else. And you have to see the animation of it. Because when you first hear
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this, you think, well, that's a, you know, that can't be much more interesting than that little
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singing fish that you put over the fireplace. But I'm here to tell you that faces have an impact on
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humans. And when you put faces on inanimate objects, or let's say non-sentient objects,
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they do become important to people. So I did this experiment years ago. I did something called the
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Dilber Ultimate Cubicle. I worked with a design company called IDO. And for it was just a publicity
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stunt. But we built and designed an ultimate cubicle. So if you had to work in a cubicle,
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what would be the best design? So we put in some cool little features. And some of them were just
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funny. But one of the features was that the guest seat was sort of like an airplane,
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one of those seats that the flight attendants use, where you just fold it down from the wall.
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But as soon as you folded down the guest seat, it would start a timer. And at the end of the timer,
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your phone would ring into your cubicle, so that you could take the call and say, ah, sorry, I got to
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take this as a way to get rid of your visitor. But one of the other things we invented, which I still
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think about, because I liked it so much, was an artificial plant, a little flower that was in a
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little artificial container. And it could sense when you came in the office. So when you would walk
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into your cubicle, the flower would be wilted, and it would go to attention, like it was happy that you
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were there. And when you left, it would sense that there was no motion in the cubicle, and it would
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wilt again. So every time you came back to your cubicle, it would be like coming home to your dog who
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is always happy to see you, except it's a plant. And it would just go whoop, and it would be happy
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to see you. And yeah, I know what joke you're making. Go ahead, make your private jokes at home.
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Okay, good. I think you're done with it. But the general notion of animating your environment,
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so that things respond to you like people, is really strong. I have to tell you, many of you now,
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I have an Amazon digital device in my office. But I also have one in all of the major rooms of the
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house. And all day long, I talk to it. I walk into a room, and I ask it about the temperature. I ask it
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what time it is. You know, I ask it where my packages are. I ask it to define words. I ask it to do math
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for me. You know, so all day long, I'll be thinking about the news. I got about 8,000 retweets on this
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tweet. So I thought it would be worth sharing it with you. Here's what I said. If you took away
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Trump's excellent instincts, and you took away his clear policies, his entertainer skills, his persuasion
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powers, you took away his mind, you took away his energy, you'd have Joe Biden. Just just leaving
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that out there. Here's one of the things I think is a big problem with Coronavirus policy. One of the
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problems is people don't have the same risk profile. So you can't have one policy that works for
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everybody. But the other problem is, I'm pretty sure that we're all lying when we talk about the
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Coronavirus publicly. And here's what I mean. If if you say, Scott, you've got to go make a speech
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about the Coronavirus. I would say, All right, I'd better say what what is good and proper to say in
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public. So I would modify my public comments. So they were appropriate for public consumption,
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which might be different from what I'd say privately. But I suspect that we're all doing that.
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And it's hurting us. And it goes like this. Publicly, if you say what should what should we do
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about the Coronavirus, Scott, I would say something closer to this. I'd say, you know, we've got to
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protect everybody. We've got to do everything to flatten that curve. Safety, safety, wear your masks,
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socially distance, I would say all the right things. Because I certainly know what I'm supposed to say.
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It's pretty obvious what the socially correct thing is. No doubt about it, right? Now, I might try to
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try to nudge people toward opening the economy, but I would be kind of soft about it, right? I'd be like,
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well, we need to get back to work. But we got to be safe. But we need to get back to work. But what
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would I say publicly? What would I say privately? Maybe I wouldn't even say it to another person,
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because it's so ugly. But let's go even more private. What are the things you're thinking
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that you're not saying out loud to anybody? To anybody? Does it sound like this?
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You know, I'd kind of be willing to kill a few hundred thousand strangers to get back to work
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and get back to regular life. How many of you are having that thought? It goes something like this.
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Yeah, it could even be somebody I know, could be somebody I care about. But I'd still do it.
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You know, if nobody knew I was the one who made the decision, let's say there was a lottery and the
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authority to decide what we do with coronavirus is randomly distributed to a citizen. But it's
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private. Only the person who gets to decide knows their decider. Nobody else will ever know which
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citizen made the coronavirus policy. And what would that citizen do? There's a very high likelihood
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that they would not do the same thing they would do if everybody knew their name and that it was their
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decision. I feel like we humans are far more, I don't want to say evil, because living is not evil.
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You know, just having a life is not evil. But we certainly would be willing to kill a lot more
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people than we will say out loud. Now, of course, there's no generalization that that holds for all
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people. That's what makes it a generalization. So I'm certainly not going to say that every one of
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you watching this has that feeling. But there's a lot of you. And here's another way to look at it,
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which I'll bet you are looking at it this way privately. But I'll bet you've never said this
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out loud. And it goes like this. If you kill a young person, you have maybe deprived them of,
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I don't know, 60 or 80 years of life. If you kill a 90 year old, you might be depriving them of
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one or two years of life on average. So if you were to look at the coronavirus deaths
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from coronavirus, given that they skew heavily toward old people, and you were to count up the
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number of, let's say, life years deprived from the total public, you would find that relatively
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speaking, there weren't that many years taken away from the public, because they didn't have many,
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it was the older people dying. Now, if you go to war, and you send your 20 year olds off to war,
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and a lot of them die, that's a that's a gigantic difference in years that could have been lived
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that were not. So when we've got this lockdown situation, which we know is going to have a big impact
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on younger people, if one young person dies, because the lockdown caused them to be sad or overdose or
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committed suicide or something, if one young person dies, let's say a 10 year old, you may have deprived
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90 years of life just from that one person. Whereas how many 80 year olds would have to die
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to equal the number of years that one 10 year old lost? You know, if you start doing the math by number
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of years, I've seen in the comments, a number of you have had this some form of this thought,
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but you can't say it out loud, can you? Right? I mean, I can do it because I have no shame.
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But you can't say it out loud. And I wonder if our policy would be different, if we could be honest
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about that. Although I'm not sure we should be, because there's part of me that says, our instinct
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to be good in public is probably one you don't want to lose, you know, your instinct to be nicer
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in public than you are privately. Maybe we should keep that, right? Because I have some other benefits.
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All right, Raul Davis on Twitter. He's a CEO branding expert, CEO and branding expert or CEO of a
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branding expert or something. But he tweets this, is it a tactical advantage for Republicans
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to have so many Democrats vote early? Because if you know what the Democrats who are voting early
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are doing, does that give you still enough time to rush in with your funding and your rallies and
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whatever? If there's some place that looks like it's going to be close, and you think, oh, we can tip
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that one. Because we know enough about the early votes to know it's close, but we're losing. So you
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go in and just tip it over the edge. It's a really good question. I don't know the answer, because I
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think you'd have to know more than I know to know the answer to that. But I think it might be an
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advantage to go second. There's so many cases where going second is an advantage, strategically.
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One of the things that's not being talked about, and really should, is that I would estimate this
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is just sort of, you know, top of my head estimate based on no knowledge whatsoever. But I think that
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this election, no matter which way it goes, no matter who wins, something along the lines of 20% of the
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public will be triggered into a fairly severe mental health crisis. And that's not a joke. Dead
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serious. Completely, completely serious. As soon as that election is over, and we know who won or who
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is likely to win, it's going to be the biggest mental health crisis we've ever had. And I don't think
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that's an over-claim, do you? I don't think that's hyperbole. Because if you see what happened in the
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last four years, that's a big mental health crisis. So, I was just reading one of your comments there
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about QAnon. We won't talk about that today. So anyway, moving on. We've got a big mental health crisis
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coming, and I feel as though we need to prepare for it somehow. Now, I've said before, and I'm going
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to follow up on this point, that I don't think it's just the shy Trump supporters you have to worry about
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in terms of the polls being somewhat inaccurate. I think you have to worry about the pranksters.
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Trump supporters. Because I have a really good sense of Trump supporters, I think. Because I feel
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like, you know, I've lived among them enough, and I am one of them, and I just feel like I have a sense
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of how Trump supporters on average think. Now, I could be wrong. I could be very wrong. But it's my sense
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that they all have this common thought. We call it the zeitgeist, if you will. And the common thought
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is, wouldn't it be funny if we lied to the pollsters, and they had no idea that Trump was going to win
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again. And the margin that he looked like he was behind on election day was even bigger than the
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margin in which he overcame and beat Hillary Clinton. Now, part of you might say, I don't want to
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tell this stranger because nothing is really secure in our digital world. But I think some people just
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think it's sort of fun to lie to the pollsters. And if you don't believe that's a thing, allow me to
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read my comments to ask you about that. So I said, it isn't the only, it isn't only the shy Trump
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supporters, blah, blah, blah. So I made the same point in the tweet. But let me read you some of
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the comments. Now, keep in mind, this is just a tweet I just sent out a few, you know, a few minutes
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ago. So I don't know how many people have seen it. But just some of the comments about people who
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lied to pollsters. I haven't had the opportunity, but I think I would. This is true. Talk to some
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Friday that told me they've been doing it. I've done this. These are different people who just
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on my comments. I've done this in the last two polls. Let's see. I did my patriotic duty.
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A gent in our social circles, blah, blah, blah, did it. In fact, I started doing it with this.
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I'm doing it. People are, I was called and surveyed about, I was called and surveyed for
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about 20 minutes. I made up about half of my opinions. I do that if they ever ask me, count
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me in the second group. In other words, they do it too. My uncle lied to pollsters. That's
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exactly what I would do. They deserve it. That'd be me. This is true. I always lie to this because
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I can. If a poll ever contacted me, I'd definitely lie. They called me. I hung up. Agree 100%.
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I'm a Trump supporter who has lied twice to pollsters. Why? Because I had time.
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I had time. Because I had time. That's exactly what I'm talking about. This is the dad joke
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that they don't see coming. Because the dad joke here is that it's so easy to prank this
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if everybody is just sort of thinking in the same way. Wouldn't it be funny? And I think
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there are enough people who at least had the idea in their head of, wouldn't it be kind
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of funny? It'd be kind of funny if I maybe skewed the polls a little bit. So we'll see if that
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happens. So I don't know if you know this, but a lot of conservatives are preparing for a civil war.
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Are you aware of that? I don't know if there are any Democrats who are preparing. But I'm hearing
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whispers and suggestions and information that suggests that some conservatives, maybe lots of
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them, I don't know, are literally preparing for a civil war. Now that's not to say they expect it.
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I think it's just people who like to prepare. You know, Republicans are very prepare-y. Probably
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there are more preppers who are Republican, do you think? I don't know. I don't know if that's true.
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I just feel like I have a sense that more Republicans would be preppers. And there's at
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least one group who's organizing generals by geography. So in other words, they're already
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organizing who the local warlords will be on the conservative side. I've been approached, but you
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don't have to approach me to be a warlord because I already am. So if you live where I live in Northern
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California, and the system goes down, and the government fails, and this is literal, there's no
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joke part of this, you should rally around me. Only because I'm telling you I'm available. If there's
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nobody else you know who's available to be a warlord, and I'm going to avoid violence. I mean, I'm not a
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warlord who likes violence. But if you just want to be organized, and you want to figure out how to
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survive a civil war or the breakdown of society, I will be happy to be an organizer in my Northern
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California area. So if you don't have somebody better, I'd be happy to hand over that power to
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somebody else. Because the odds of being assassinated if you're the warlord are really high.
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Really high. I prefer not to be assassinated in a civil war. But if you need one, I'm a pretty good
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choice. Because I don't have a lust for power of that type. It's the last thing I'd want would be to
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have some kind of government job. And so I'd probably be a reliable warlord just to keep things
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stable until we recover from the breakdown of society. So that's a real offer, by the way. 100%
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serious. If you need somebody to be in charge temporarily, because I definitely don't want to do
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it permanently. I will just automatically assume that role if anybody wants it. All right. USA Today
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did the most fascinating article. And if you've been following the what I call the very fine people
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hoax, this is a really good chapter. And I tweeted about this so you can follow it that way. So USA Today,
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I think it was yesterday, had an article in which they were fact checking the people who said the fine
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people hoax is a hoax. So that would be me. So they're fact checking people like me. Here is, now how
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do you think that went? Because the transcript is very clear. So the fine people hoax is a hoax. You can
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just read the transcript and it's obvious. So when USA Today, a major news organization, goes
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to fact check it, it's going to be pretty easy, right? Here's the transcript. Boom, we're done. Is
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that what they did? No, they fact checked the fine people hoax without linking to the transcript, I
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think. Now part of what they did is they wrote a big convoluted article in which they mixed in stuff
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about the proud boys, so that you couldn't really tell what they were talking about. It's intentionally
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confusing. Huh. Why would they make it intentionally confusing when it's as simple as just showing the
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transcript? That would be as simple as anything could be. And yet, it's really confusing. You read
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it and you're not sure if they've debunked it or they haven't debunked it. But here's my favorite
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sentence from this hot steaming pile of shit called an article. It says, a few days after the rally,
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Trump was asked by reporters about the protest, to which he responded that there were very, quote,
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very fine people on both sides. And this is in USA Today, yesterday. This is actually in a major
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publication, this next sentence. And it says, however, some people say they believe Trump also
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condemned white supremacists and neo-Nazis as part of his very fine people statement. What? Some people
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believe it? It's the transcript. I don't believe it. It's the transcript. It's not really a case of a
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QAnon kind of belief. I wouldn't call it religious belief. It's not exactly like believing the aliens have
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landed and have abducted people. Those, I would say, would be in the category of beliefs. This is a news
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organization that knows where the transcript is. They can just show it to you. And they lead off by saying
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some people believe it. Now, what is the implication of saying some people believe it? The only thing you
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should take away from some people believe it is that it's not true. And if you say some people believe
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it, before you get to the details of whether it's true or false, are you not trying to tell your reader
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that it's not true? Because otherwise you would have said something closer to this? Some people have
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pointed out that that's exactly what the transcript says. How hard would that be? See how easily I wrote
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that sentence? Some people have pointed out that the transcript shows he clearly disavowed this group.
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So you have to, if you want to be just amazed at what's happening and how corrupt the media is and how
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cognitive dissonance is just screwing up heads, because there's a little bit of corruption in the
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article, I think, or maybe it's all just cognitive dissonance, or maybe it's just bias and they're trying
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to hide the fact that the hoax is a hoax and they're trying to be accurate while making sure that you
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didn't understand the point. It's really, it's jaw-dropping when you see how they handled it. Anyway,
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go take a look at that. Interestingly, Twitter does not make the same mistake that Facebook makes
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when they fact-checked this hoax. Over on Facebook, there is still a warning where somebody put the
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accurate quote from the actual transcript, and Facebook put a fake news warning on the actual,
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exact, accurate quote. In other words, you could just look at the quote. It's exactly the same words,
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and they put a fake news warning on it. Now, here's the interesting part. Twitter doesn't,
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and I tested it by tweeting Facebook's, you know, Facebook's fake news and, you know, said the actual
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fine people thing is hoax. Twitter won't put a notice on that. So what does it mean if Twitter thinks
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it's a hoax and Facebook is banning it as not true? What happens when your social media platforms
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don't have the same opinion on the fact? I guess they can just, they can just tell their audiences
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one, you know, one's not a fact, and the other one is silent on it, allowing you to believe that maybe
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it is. It's a weird, weird situation we've got here. Are you following the story about the Joe Biden
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DuPont mansion? So apparently back in, I think, the 70s, the Bidens bought a mansion that had been
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owned by the DuPonts, and he paid $185,000 for it, which back in the 70s was big money, big money.
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At the time, he was earning $42,000 a year as a government employee. If you own 42, if you're making
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$42,000 a year, and the story I read didn't say whether Jill Biden was working then, I don't know
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if she was being a mom or she was still working, but maybe her teacher salary was on top of that.
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I'm not sure. But the mansion is this big, sprawling mansion that was described as a money pit that was
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in disrepair. So the reason he got it for such a low price, so you should not be so impressed that
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he paid millions of dollars for this mansion, he got it for a really low price. But it was described
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as a money pit, which he spent 20 years putting money into. Have any of you ever put money into a
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home? Has anybody ever done a renovation of an older home? How'd that go? Do you have any idea
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how much it costs to renovate a mansion? Now, renovating a normal house is pretty darn expensive,
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but maybe you could do some of the work yourself if it's a regular house. Do you think Joe Biden did
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any of the work himself in his sprawling mansion? I doubt it. I feel like you would have to hire
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professionals to do that kind of work. The debunk on this, the fact check on this, is that if you look
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at the price he paid, it's so low and it was such a fixer-upper that it's not really a case of he
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couldn't afford it. And there's evidence that he was struggling with money at the time, which is more
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evidence it was a reach for him, but it wasn't that expensive. So it's all okay. There's no evidence of
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anything that's going wrong here, right? Well, I believe that that fact check depends heavily on
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people not being good at math and not being good at finance. If I look at a house that cost $185,000
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and probably needed three times that amount for upgrades, although that would be spread over a
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number of years, there isn't any way in the world that Joe Biden could afford that freaking house,
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right? So the way it was reported is here's the numbers. It's obvious this wasn't so outlandish,
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but I look at the numbers because I have a deep background in looking at numbers. I've told you
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this before on Periscope. If you have lots of experience analyzing data and numbers, you get kind
00:29:02.620
of a six cents and you can just look at something like this and go, ah, nope. And I would like to put
00:29:09.040
that to those of you who are watching, who have finance experience. Let's say you have experience
00:29:15.540
in economics, finance, maybe you've even had some experience fixing up homes. And I want you to
00:29:22.840
check my intuition. My intuition is just looking at these numbers. There's no way that this is the
00:29:30.200
whole story. Not even close. We're not even in the zip code of this being debunked. Not even close.
00:29:38.700
That's my intuition. So I'm looking at the comments and I'm seeing the people who have
00:29:43.640
that kind of experience, apparently. Yeah, I'm seeing people basically say the same thing.
00:29:52.180
Now, you can't trust that because there are a lot of anti-Biden people here who want to believe
00:29:57.180
there's a crime. And I wouldn't say I want to believe that. I don't want to believe that.
00:30:03.060
And genuinely, I don't want any bad things to happen to the Bidens or anybody else.
00:30:08.040
But I don't see how these numbers work. It doesn't even look close. If you look at the comments,
00:30:15.100
you'll see pretty much mass agreement with my point. I haven't seen anybody yet who said,
00:30:20.880
oh, yeah, those numbers work. Yeah. Yeah, they're not even close to working. Now, if you say to
00:30:28.420
yourself, and I saw this defense, but Scott, Scott, Scott, Scott, Scott, Scott, Joe Biden has been
00:30:36.320
revealing his entire financial stuff, his tax returns. He's been doing that for decades. If there
00:30:43.800
were any kind of financial impropriety, it would be right there. It'd be there in the numbers. And by the
00:30:50.100
way, in the recent years, he did make a bunch of money, but legally, by giving speeches and writing
00:30:55.500
books and stuff, which is true. Well, you know, here's how people bribe rich people. If you didn't
00:31:09.800
know this, this might make your head spin a little bit. Bribery doesn't happen by somebody writing a
00:31:16.700
check to a senator. That's not a thing. I mean, and if it is a thing, they usually get caught.
00:31:23.200
That's why you don't do it. Here's what it would look like to bribe somebody without getting caught.
00:31:30.780
Hey, one of your kids is starting a company. Boy, did that company get well funded.
00:31:37.580
Totally legal, right? You could fund, you could agree to give a loan or to be an investor
00:31:45.900
in a child's company, child of a senator. There's nothing illegal about that. You might even make
00:31:53.300
an investment where you would not have ordinarily made an investment. It might not be in the realm
00:31:58.700
where you usually invest. You could do something that Joe Biden is invested in. Perhaps Joe Biden
00:32:07.160
has invested in some small business, and you know it. Perhaps you could become the biggest customer
00:32:13.400
for that small business. Again, it's completely legal to buy things on the free market, so you're just a
00:32:22.240
big customer. It just happens that the person who's an investor in that company might be a senator.
00:32:28.700
So there are probably a million ways that you can launder bribes to famous people. So you're not
00:32:35.360
going to find it on tax returns, right? You're just not going to find it there. So I don't have any
00:32:42.500
information that says Joe Biden ever took a bribe, but I'm telling you how to find it and what it would
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look like. That's all I'm saying. I've got a question about health care. I have this nagging
00:32:58.560
feeling that the only reason we can't solve health care, and let's call it health care insurance so
00:33:05.300
the pedantic people don't come after me and say, Scott, Scott, Scott, there's a difference between
00:33:11.160
insurance and health care. I know. I use them interchangeably because everybody knows what
00:33:17.260
you're talking about. But we are talking about insurance, and I wonder if the only reason this
00:33:22.720
hasn't been solved is because the wrong people are working on it. And when I say the wrong people
00:33:28.740
working on it, I feel as though it's a simplification problem, meaning that it's so complicated, the whole
00:33:37.180
field, that if anybody tried to come up with a plan, it would also be really complicated. And if they tried
00:33:44.280
to sell their plan to the public, the public wouldn't be able to understand it, and they legitimately
00:33:49.860
couldn't know if it would be a good idea or not. So I feel as if the problem with health care is that
00:33:56.260
the complexity is sky high, and nobody yet who is good at handling complexity has made that their
00:34:05.000
main job. You know, there are lots of people who are good at handling complexity, but they're not
00:34:09.400
working on that problem. They're working on other stuff, I guess. And let me give you a sense of how
00:34:18.500
simple it would be to solve conceptually, right? It's not really simple, but conceptually it's
00:34:25.400
simple. Do you understand that distinction? In the real world, it would be terribly difficult,
00:34:30.400
but it shouldn't be, and this is why. In rough numbers, I haven't updated this recently, but I'm
00:34:38.140
guessing somewhere around 10% of the public does not have health insurance. I need a fact check on that,
00:34:44.140
but it's somewhere in that range, about 10%. We'll use that for our talking point. All right,
00:34:49.240
so if 10% don't have health insurance, the other 90% do, could you just raise the cost of health
00:34:57.600
insurance to the 90% who do by 10% at the same time you're doing enough health care cost reduction
00:35:06.460
stuff, that it could lower the price by 10%. In other words, you lower the cost of health care by
00:35:13.460
making it more competitive, getting rid of rules and obstacles and free market obstacles,
00:35:21.400
just make it a more efficient system. You could probably squeeze 10% out of it, don't you think?
00:35:27.680
Maybe some of it would come at the cost of highly profitable health care providers.
00:35:33.180
Some of it might be hospitals who are doing this service and not getting reimbursed.
00:35:40.040
You know, there's some benefit there if they start getting reimbursed.
00:35:45.680
So you might be able to find a situation where you say, here's the deal. In three years,
00:35:50.540
we're going to try to lower the cost of health care 10% and move that burden onto the people who have
00:35:55.940
it. They will subsidize the people who don't have it. Maybe you make the subsidized health care
00:36:02.680
not so good that people don't want better health care. So maybe they'll still want to work to get
00:36:09.140
better health care, but they'll have health care insurance. Somebody's saying 9% as my fact check number
00:36:16.920
of people who don't have insurance. So let me summarize this. If the entire health care insurance
00:36:22.820
problem is 9%, are you telling me we can't fix that? Because I think our health care insurance goes
00:36:30.340
up, what, 5% a year? I need a fact check on that too. That number just came out of my butt. But I think
00:36:38.280
your regular health care insurance probably goes up 5% a year, right? I'm just guessing.
00:36:43.720
So adding an immediate 10% at the same time, you're saying the other part of this plan is we're going
00:36:52.480
to go nuts on trying to lower the cost so we can get closer to break even there on those two things.
00:37:00.740
So that's my observation. I feel as though you could simplify this to the point where it should
00:37:09.140
be solvable. I just don't think the right people are working on it. You take a Hillary Clinton who's
00:37:14.420
an attorney and you say, go try to fix health care, you're not going to get a simple explanation
00:37:19.980
or a simple solution. You're going to get the complicated one. And if all you have working on it
00:37:26.300
is lawyers, it's just going to be complicated. So get rid of the lobbyists and lawyers and maybe
00:37:32.840
it's solvable. All right. I guess Twitter has still locked the New York Post Twitter account
00:37:40.620
because they still have that link to the Biden story, the Hunter Biden story. So we're watching
00:37:49.020
that. I'm seeing pundits say that Trump needs a closing argument, something like what he's planning
00:37:59.440
to do in the future to excite his base. Does that track with you? Do you feel as if that's missing?
00:38:06.220
I know it's missing in terms of pundit talk. You know, if I were a pundit on TV, maybe I'd say the
00:38:12.360
same thing. By the way, I will be, I will be a pundit on TV tomorrow, tomorrow, Monday. So I'm rebooked
00:38:19.320
for MSNBC. At this point, it would be sometime in the 6 to 7 p.m. hour, Eastern time. So adjust for
00:38:29.600
your time zone. But Eastern time, sometime in the 6 to 7 p.m. Monday, I'll be on MSNBC, if all goes well.
00:38:37.140
But I don't think that Trump needs a closing argument. I don't think he needs to tell us
00:38:46.840
what new things he's going to do next year beyond what he's already said. Because everything that
00:38:52.460
he's doing is what I'd call a system. So in other words, he's got a philosophy about not starting wars
00:39:01.300
overseas. Does he need to tell us, I'm not going to start any wars in the next four years?
00:39:07.940
He doesn't need to tell us that's an objective or a goal, because he has a system of just, you know,
00:39:14.860
getting out of any foreign entanglements. So I feel like I know what his plan is. Don't do any of those
00:39:22.100
foreign wars. I don't need him to tell me what he's going to do with China and negotiating, because
00:39:29.060
he's in the middle of doing it, and it probably will take a lot more time to get it done. I don't
00:39:34.300
need him to tell me what he's doing about cutting regulations, because that's a system. Again, it's
00:39:41.940
not something you do and then you're done. It's a regular system where, I don't know if they're still
00:39:47.440
using it, but it was, he'll cut X number of regulations for every new one that's proposed.
00:39:53.740
He's got a system. I don't need him to tell me what he's going to do with Supreme Court
00:39:58.400
nominations, because he has a system. Here's my list from the Federalist Society. I'm going to
00:40:04.260
pick from the list. I get it. I get it. I don't really need much more detail than that. I don't
00:40:10.580
need to know what he wants to do with taxes exactly, because he wants them less. If he can get away with
00:40:18.060
it, I don't know if he can get away with it, but I don't really need him to tell me more about that.
00:40:22.920
I know he'll try, if he can, to lower taxes. So I feel as though that's an empty comment,
00:40:31.480
that he needs some kind of a, you know, a new thing he's doing. The difference between,
00:40:36.940
you know, in my, this is my big picture view, is that Republicans are better with systems.
00:40:42.620
I'm going to create a system and we're just going to keep running this system, whereas the
00:40:47.660
Democrats are more about, we want everybody to be equal, but we don't have a system for getting
00:40:54.180
there that would work. Socialism is a pretty bad system, if you go full socialism, that is.
00:41:01.480
All right. The biggest mystery in the world to me right now is still Sweden and why we don't
00:41:11.400
understand Sweden. Now, you are probably under the impression that Sweden is doing great, right?
00:41:18.300
That they, they didn't close down, they didn't go mask crazy, and although they had a lot of initial
00:41:24.780
deaths, you believe they reached herd immunity. They did not, not even close, and that the current
00:41:32.160
situation is that they have very low, low infection rate. Those are both false. Sweden is about average.
00:41:40.360
They're not, they're not low on infections, and they're not a hot spot. They're sort of in the
00:41:48.180
middle. In order to reach the middle, they, they had far higher deaths, but they also had a freer
00:41:55.700
society. Here's what we don't understand. Why is it not a hot spot? Is it, is it just vitamin D?
00:42:04.480
Because they supplement in Sweden all year round. They take cod oil or something. And so it could
00:42:12.260
be that. Is it social distancing? I've been told the Swedes are just natural social distancers.
00:42:18.380
Maybe. Is it luck? Is it travel patterns? What is it? And why don't we know it? If we don't
00:42:26.700
understand Sweden, do we know anything? I feel that's the problem. If we don't know what's going
00:42:33.920
on in Sweden, we probably don't understand this virus enough to know that any of our policies
00:42:40.520
are good policies or bad policies. It's like we don't understand it. The other thing we don't
00:42:47.320
understand, and this has been blowing my mind for months, when I saw some epidemiologist expert
00:42:53.640
on TV, saying that we don't know why any virus goes away. Did you know that? We don't know why
00:43:01.500
any virus goes away. Why is it that the seasonal flu that we get this year will not just come back
00:43:08.020
next year? Do you know why? Because the experts don't know why. And it's not herd instinct, or it's not,
00:43:14.520
it's not herd immunity. It's not. We know for sure that that's not the reason it stops, but we don't
00:43:22.240
know why it stops. And that's what the experts say. If we don't know why a virus burns out,
00:43:29.080
is Trump necessarily crazy for saying it'll just go away? Because that seems to me completely
00:43:35.700
compatible with the best expert opinion on viruses, that they do just burn out, and we don't know why.
00:43:44.100
Now, you could argue that this one's different. Maybe it was engineered. We still can't know for sure.
00:43:49.960
But the Trump statement that it will just go away, I think is completely compatible with science.
00:43:58.580
The part that he got terribly, terribly wrong is that he was optimistic about it in terms of the
00:44:04.240
timing. I don't think he has a reason to be optimistic about the timing of it. But I would say
00:44:10.040
his statement that it will go away and we won't know why is probably dead on. And would you bet against
00:44:17.020
it? If you had to take a bet right now, would you bet against Trump, who said that the coronavirus
00:44:24.480
will someday just go away? Don't bet against that. Now, it might be a year from now, could be two
00:44:32.980
years from now. But I would not take the bet that the only reason it goes away is because we reached
00:44:39.720
some herd immunity with either vaccinations or just people getting infected. I would bet on Trump
00:44:47.960
being right. It's just that his timing was so wrong that I think that's the big problem.
00:44:54.680
All right. Dr. Scott Atlas, whose name needs to be changed, because every time President Trump is on
00:45:05.640
TV and he says, Scott, ah, I go, what? And then he goes, Tlis. I go, oh, not me. And then he says it
00:45:14.660
again, Tlis. Okay, still not me. Still not me. I keep expecting the television to talk about me and
00:45:24.820
it doesn't often enough. But I guess Twitter banned one of his tweets in which he was saying something,
00:45:33.600
he said, I think this is the one where he tweeted, masks work? No. And then he lists LA, Miami, Hawaii,
00:45:41.480
Alabama, and Israel. I believe he's saying that they use a lot of masks in those places,
00:45:48.100
but their infections are still high? I don't know. Is that what he's saying? I don't even know the
00:45:54.940
point of it. And then he says, WHO, World Health Organization, colon, widespread use not supported,
00:46:02.860
meaning masks. So he did this tweet that people interpreted as anti-mask and it got banned by
00:46:11.000
Twitter. But then he later, he clarified by saying that what he said was compatible with
00:46:18.760
current policy, which is current policy is, of course, you should use a mask if you're going to
00:46:24.160
be close to people. But if you're not going to be close to people, don't go crazy with masks.
00:46:30.080
I think he's walking a pretty murky line there. I'm not sure that Dr. Scott Ellis is helping with
00:46:40.280
clarity, but there is something he's helping, which is he's a really good bad cop, right? Because you
00:46:48.660
need a bad cop. And it works really well in a Trump scenario. It was good that North Korea
00:46:57.380
knew that there were some bad cops saying we should go hard at North Korea, because then Trump could
00:47:03.880
be the good cop. And I think this is another one of those cases. As long as there is a doctor who's
00:47:11.020
an advisor who's going out there and he's, he's, I'll say he's at least pushing against the dogma of
00:47:17.280
masks. He's not saying don't wear a mask. He's very clear about that. In the right situations,
00:47:23.480
wear a mask. But he's pushing the boundary of that. And that allows Trump to not necessarily
00:47:30.400
be the one who's always pushing that boundary. But he does want the economy to open up. So I feel like
00:47:36.780
maybe Dr. Atlas, by taking all the heat, it might be good. It might be good for Trump in terms of
00:47:45.500
persuasion. I don't know if it's good for our health. I don't know if it's good for anything else.
00:47:49.900
I'm not the expert. But persuasion wise, it might work. By the way, if you believe that Sweden has
00:47:58.760
achieved herd immunity, and you believe that the herd immunity is much lower, like 10 or 20%,
00:48:04.500
the, the head expert in Sweden doesn't think they're at herd immunity. So Sweden itself doesn't
00:48:11.680
believe that's what happened. So you should probably not believe that either. My best guess,
00:48:16.760
if I had to, if I had to look at all of these different outcomes in different countries,
00:48:21.820
with all these different policies and different situations, if I'm trying to find something that
00:48:27.620
could explain it, the best explanations would be cultural differences and vitamin D. I feel like
00:48:36.220
we're down to that. It feels like vitamin D and cultural differences about, you know, distance.
00:48:43.360
Might be just that. That's what I'm thinking. If I had to put a bet on it, I would bet on those two
00:48:49.440
things. Somebody says smoking too. Smoking has a, seems to have, some say it's worse, and some say
00:49:00.560
it's protective. Don't they? So I think that's an unknown. And I've heard also that marijuana smoke
00:49:07.560
could be a protectant, but I wouldn't recommend it. I know I haven't gotten the coronavirus yet. So
00:49:15.180
let me say this. If marijuana is a protectant, or they say it protects your lungs,
00:49:23.860
you know, on some level, I feel like it's obvious that it would. Because if you put smoke into your
00:49:33.740
lungs, I feel like it at least would cover some of the surface. Maybe there's less, less for the
00:49:41.680
virus to stick to if there's a covering of soot on your lungs. So I can imagine it could work either
00:49:49.440
way. I can imagine it could make you worse or make you better. I'm no doctor, so don't take any
00:49:53.720
medical advice from me. All right.
00:50:00.100
Somebody says, man, this guy is really ignorant.
00:50:05.420
Usually when people call me ignorant, it's because they know less than I do.
00:50:09.160
So we'll delete him in a moment. Here, excuse me while I delete that guy. Block. All right. That's
00:50:18.440
all I got for today. And I'll talk to you tomorrow. All right. Periscope's off. All of you YouTubers,
00:50:28.340
you're still with me. I'm just going to look at your comments. Somebody says, most pneumonia is
00:50:34.740
caused by colds. Is it? Colds? Are you just imagining it helps? Yes, I am just imagining that
00:50:47.680
marijuana helps. I don't have any information on that. Clinton Foundation, Charles Ortel. I don't
00:50:55.880
know why you're mentioning him. Is there some new news about Charles Ortel? I don't even know who that is.
00:51:04.740
All right. That's enough for now. I'll talk to you tomorrow.
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