Episode 1159 Scott Adams： I Teach You How to Evaluate Trump’s Coronavirus Performance, Masks, Biden Laptops, Herd Immunity
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Summary
Joe Biden's laptop is found in Ukraine, and it's not the first time someone's laptop has been found belonging to an associate of Joe Biden. Plus, how to get a fixer-up mansion, and a tip on how to take bribes when you become a senator.
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there's something coffee can't do, it can do it. So a lot of you heard the news that there's
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yet another laptop that's been discovered belonging to allegedly an associate of Hunter Biden.
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One. This one's in the Ukraine. So I believe the count is now four laptops. Three of them were
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left at a repair shop. And one of them was left in Ukraine. And when I saw that story, I started
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thinking, I wonder where else there are laptops. Because I didn't even know that was a thing. I
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haven't really ever, I don't think I've ever forgotten a laptop anywhere. But I thought, what if I have
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one? So I started looking through my house to see if I have any Hunter Biden laptops? And I do.
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I found one. So there's at least five Hunter Biden laptops. I've got one in my house.
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It was in the garage. It was behind some rags. I don't know what it was there. I'm not sure why it
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was there. But I'll be checking it later for emails. You should check your house too. Because
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there are Hunter Biden related laptops freaking everywhere. Check behind the couch. If you've
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got cushions, look under the cushions. You probably have a couple of Biden laptops. I mean, why wouldn't
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you? So I see the news today that Biden was double masking at church. So he had two masks
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on. He had a white mask below a darker colored mask. And I'm thinking, that's a good start.
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That is a good start. But two masks? Could you really be safe with just two masks? Because I'm
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thinking, you know, I value my life. I'm thinking three to five masks would be safe enough to go to
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church. Now, considering he was also in church, so there was that extra risk of some religion getting
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in through the mouth area. Satan, for example. Maybe when Biden went to church with his double
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masking, he was thinking one mask for the coronavirus, one mask to keep Satan out of his
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mouth hole. Because that could be a problem, couldn't it? So I'm thinking I might triple, maybe
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quadruple mask. Just cover all bases. I've got a tip for you on how to accept bribes when you become
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a senator. Now, nothing about what I'm about to say is to suggest that Joe Biden has taken bribes
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from anybody. I have no data, no information that would suggest that. All right, so let's start with
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no information to suggest he did anything illegal. Swampy, perhaps. But illegal? I don't know of
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anything. But hypothetically, let's just say that you were just elected to Congress. Let's say you're a
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senator. Let's say you thought that you would like to accept some bribes, but you don't want to get
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caught. What would be the way to do that? Would you just say, hey, why don't you give me a check? I'll put
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that check in my bank. That'll be safe enough. No, you would not do that, because that would create a paper
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trail, a digital trail, and you would not want anybody bribing you in any way that could be
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discovered later in any easy way. So one thing you might do, and there are lots of ways to do this,
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but I'm just going to throw out one suggestion. One thing you could do is buy a fixer-up mansion.
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Something that you could just sort of barely afford, but you definitely couldn't afford to fix it up.
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You might be able to afford to buy it, but you don't have enough money to fix up a mansion.
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So suppose you had subcontractors coming in there, and they're working on your mansion.
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They're fixing it up. Is there any paper trail about who paid them in cash? Let's say they were
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paid in cash. Have you ever heard of a subcontractor who was willing to accept cash
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as opposed to checks? Yes, you have. It's called every subcontractor. I'm sure there's some
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subcontractor in the world somewhere who will take a check. But if you offer them cash, if you make it
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an option, most subcontractors would say a cash check, it's all the same. Sure, I'll take the cash.
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I don't mind that. And they may or may not declare those earnings on their taxes because if it's cash,
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it's hard to track. So imagine if you will, some rich person who wants to bribe you is not bribing
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you directly, but maybe they're giving you the cash that you give to your contractors.
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And how would that be discoverable? How in the world would anybody know anything was wrong?
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The contractors would be getting cash, but they would be getting it from the homeowner.
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The homeowner would just give them cash. If that cash came from someplace illicit,
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some contractor doesn't care. All they know is they got paid. And it's not the homeowner's fault
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if the subcontractor doesn't pay their taxes. It's not your responsibility to make your
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subcontractor pay the taxes. Somebody says a 1099. Well, there's no 1099 if you pay cash.
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And if your subcontractor just wants to stay under the radar. Now that would not be legal. And I'm not
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suggesting that anybody in this story actually did that. I'm just saying that if you wanted the perfect
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set up to accept bribes without it ever being evaluated or without it ever being discovered,
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it would be a really good strategy to buy a fixer-upper mansion. Just saying.
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Here's an opinion about... I'm going to make you smarter today. So I'm going to give you a...
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somebody says a 10k IRS form. No, there is no tax form. There's no tax form that is going to show
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whether a subcontractor got paid cash. That's not a thing. I'm looking at your comments. You think that
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they could find that out, but they could not. They could not. At least not without a lot of work.
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So here's a little piece of knowledge to make you smarter than all the people you know when they
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talk about coronavirus. You know about herd immunity. You know that the experts say that
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you probably need something like 60-70% of people to be infected before you can have a good herd
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immunity. But I heard a modification to that that's really important, which is it depends on
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the season. So for example, there's evidence from Adam Kucharski on Twitter. You can see me
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retweeting him in my Twitter feed. And he's a mathematician and epidemiologist. And he's written
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a book, The Rules of Contagion. So it's somebody who knows how to do math, knows epidemics,
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and he informs us this. That if you looked at the regular influenza, the ordinary seasonal flu,
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he did some serology data study, and he found that 40-50% of younger people get infected each year.
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So they might not have symptoms. They might not know they were infected. But up to half of younger
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people get infected with influenza each year. One assumes that's from school. And 15-20% of older
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groups. Now, the influenza seems to come and then go each year. It doesn't completely disappear as I
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understand it, but it becomes a non-issue in subsequent years. And I looked at that and I said,
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that doesn't make sense. Because if only 10-20% of older people, and most citizens are older than
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kids, if only 15-20% of them is enough for herd immunity, that doesn't make sense. Because shouldn't
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it be closer to 60% or something like that? And as Adam informed me, and I hadn't really made this
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connection before, it depends on the season. If it's the winter, and you're indoors, and you're
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really spreading it around a lot, then your herd immunity has to be pretty high, because your risk
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of infection is also so high. So you need a little extra herd immunity if people are going to be
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indoors. But if it's the summer, and they're outdoors, and they're not in this super spreaders
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kind of situation, then a lower herd immunity, and it could be a lot lower, would be enough
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to burn it out. So you got two factors that both have to be considered. How much does the herd
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immunity need to be? And then what season is it? Because the herd immunity can be a different amount
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depending on the season. Got that? That's kind of an important concept to hold in your mind. It'll
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help you explain what happens as the winter approaches. And then coming into the conversation
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was Andres Backhouse. I always mention him because he's got a background in economics. So he's better
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at comparing things than most of us. So he's better at picking apart these claims and telling you what to
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believe. And here are a couple of quick facts that Andres points out. The one thing is that you can't
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look at charts that show mask mandates coming into effect, and then show that the virus still was
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raging. And so people say, look, here's my chart. And you can see that the virus was going up. And here's
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the day that the masks went into effect. And the virus kept going up. So therefore, masks don't
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work. That's what people say on the internet. And you'll see even smart people saying that. But here's
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the thing. There's no control group. So how much would the how much would the infections have gone up
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without masks? Because masks tend to go into a situation where you've got a known problem. So the
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first part is, was there such a problem that was out of control? That's why you put masks on in the
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first place. So the correlation might be backwards. People are saying, wait, the mask didn't work because
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the infections went up. Whereas maybe what's happening is infections are going up. So that's why people are
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wearing masks. So you might have the correlation and causation backwards. So we don't have anything to
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compare it to. And we don't know if we've got the causation right. So you you could easily over interpret
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the fact that somebody introduced masks in a location, and the coronavirus continued to increase. It doesn't
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mean that alone, by itself, doesn't tell you anything. And we even saw, I think, Rand Paul,
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making that kind of a claim that, you know, where masks were introduced, you didn't see much of a
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difference. But countering that, we have Dr. Fauci. Now, don't you think that Dr. Fauci,
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you know, probably more than anybody in the planet Earth, or at least in the top 1%, is somebody who's
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looked into it. You and I probably have not looked at every mask study. And you and I may not be
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qualified to look at a mask study and know if it tells you something useful or it doesn't.
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But Dr. Fauci has, and people he's talked to has, and other experts have. And as of yesterday,
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Fauci says the meta-analysis showed that masks really do work in preventing infection.
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And so Fauci says, if you look at, you know, all of the information, masks work. Now,
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does that mean that masks have been tested in one of those reliable kind of tests, the kind where you
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do the randomized controlled study? Well, in order for it to be controlled, you would have to have some
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group that you said, hey, there's going to be a whole bunch of coronavirus in your environment,
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but we don't want this group to wear masks. You can't do that study. Because you can't say to
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people, you shouldn't wear masks during a coronavirus, because the expectation is that
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they probably work. So given that there's such a strong feeling among experts, who could be wrong?
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They could be wrong, right? It's possible. But they have a strong feeling that the masks work.
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And under that condition, you can't do a controlled test, because you can't ask anybody in a coronavirus
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environment to not wear them. It just can't be done. So the meta-analyses have to do with other
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viruses or other bacteria or other kinds of infections. So you might say to yourself, wait a
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minute, those other things are not like this thing. This coronavirus is not the same size as other
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things. It's not a case of protecting the person with the mask. It's more about protecting the other
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people. It has a higher R value, meaning it's more infectious. Does that make a difference? Probably.
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But there you have it. Dr. Fauci, who has looked at the data, says, and somewhat unambiguously,
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he says this. He's not really hedging it too much at all, really. He's not hedging it at all,
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I'd say. He's saying, mass work. Is he right? We'll see. We'll see. All right.
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We'll get back to this coronavirus stuff. I got some more fun stuff to talk about.
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I was watching a movie last night. And every now and then, I say to myself, you know,
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I'm going to try watching a movie again. Because some of you might know, I bailed out on watching
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movies because they're so bad. First of all, they take too long and they're all hackneyed and it's
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the same movie, just rewritten over and over. There's always a car chase. There's somebody
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killing a lot of bad guys. There's somebody tied to a chair. You know, they're just all boring and
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predictable. So I watched this movie with Jessica Chastain. I forget the title of it. You certainly
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don't need to watch it. And she was some kind of a super spy who, you know, everybody was trying to
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kill her. And so it was one of these action movies in which the hero, in this case, played by Jessica
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Chastain, kills lots and lots of bad guys from the beginning to the end. It's just death count,
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death count, death count. And I'm watching it and I'm thinking to myself, okay, I don't, you know,
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I get that there are far more female heroes in action movies and maybe the market wants that.
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I don't know. I'm no expert. But I thought to myself, in what situation, in what other situation
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do you get one person from one demographic group, in this case a woman, who can slay unlimited numbers
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of people from another demographic group, in this case men, and that's okay? And you can make a movie
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about that. What other situation could you do that? Has there ever been a movie in which a male hero
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violently dispatches dozens and dozens, if not hundreds, of female characters? No, you're not going to see
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that movie. How about a movie where there's a white star, an action star, who is only killing
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people of a different ethnicity? Well, you used to see those movies when I was a kid, right? It was
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either like a, you know, a war movie from World War II, where the only people dying were the Japanese
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characters in the movies, etc. But you don't see those in 2020. You don't really see a person from one
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group exclusively killing people from another group, because that's no longer politically correct.
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It would just send some kind of a, some kind of a message. Yeah, even the Rambo movies are now
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quite aged. I don't think you'd see a Rambo movie where only one kind of person gets killed by another
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kind of person. And so I ask you this, what is the impact on our youth of watching a female
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character killing unlimited male characters, but never the reverse? You never see it the other
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way. You can certainly see male characters killing unlimited other male characters. You'd accept that.
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I feel like it's devaluing men, and sufficiently so, that we probably ought to ban those movies.
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I think if we've gone so far, and we've gone pretty far with this political correctness,
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you either have to make everything okay, and say, all right, anybody can kill anybody. It's just a movie.
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Don't take it too seriously. Or you have to say, I don't think the one thing we can not only allow,
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but feature? In fact, find me an action movie that does not include a female lead character killing
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hundreds of males. That's the basic movie right now, right? Birds of prey, female characters killing
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male characters. That's it. That's the movie. And I think you're going to see a lot more of that.
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I find that unacceptable. And so I will boycott any movie that has a female character who is killing
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exclusively or almost exclusively male characters as entertainment, because I'm not sure that's
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entertainment. All right. Somebody is countering with The Handmaiden's Tale. I feel like The Handmaiden's
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Tale is from the perspective of the victim. If the movies I was talking about were very sympathetic
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to all the hundreds of henchmen who got killed, it's like, let's do a movie from the perspective
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of all of the bad guys who got killed. That's what The Handmaiden's Tale is. That's from the
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perspective of the victim. See? That's more of the same. It's not the counter example. That's more of
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the same. All right. Let's talk about the polls. And let's talk about who's going to win. Do you want
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some optimism about Trump winning the election? I got some. You ready for some optimism? I told you
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this was going to be the best part of the day. It's going to be incredible. All right. So first of all,
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the major polls and the polling average would show that Trump is not only behind, but behind by
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fairly large numbers. But we know from 2016 that the polls in general, not every poll,
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all right, we still, we love our Rasmussen's and, you know, Zogby's and a few others, Trafalgar.
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But the polls in general appear to be, I feel like I can say this as just a fact, they appear to be
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illegitimate. Can I say that as just a fact that is so well established that I don't need to defend it
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with any reasons anymore? Have we reached that point where everybody's like, yeah, those are fake?
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I think we have. And I think we would also expect that the fake polls would close in the final week,
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so that they don't, they don't lose all of their credibility. Oh, it's something happened the final
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week, and the polls closed. How about that? But I would think that Joe Biden's success with
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fundraising recently, because he's, he's raising massive amounts of money, has a lot to do with
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the polls. Because people like to give money to winning causes. They don't like to give money to
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something that looks like it's going to lose. So as, as Biden's poll numbers look better,
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he's raking in big numbers, not a big surprise. But besides the polls, are we seeing anything that
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would suggest that maybe Trump has a better chance than the polls are indicating? And yes,
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we are. And it turns out that just about everything that isn't those illegitimate polls
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looks pro-Trump. Almost everything. Let me give you an example.
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So first of all, there's a pollster, Patrick Basham, who, no relation, who has indicated that there are
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something like four or five percent shy Trump supporters. So according to this one researcher
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slash pollster, they are absolutely there. And it's not just because some rural people are hard to poll,
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but that there is an absolute, no doubt about it, shy Trump supporter. And it's going to come out
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on election day, similar to 2016. Now, apparently, there's also the internal polls don't show what the
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external polls show. And the reason that Obama, I think Obama is going to Pennsylvania to help out
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Biden. You don't send Obama to Pennsylvania if the polls that say Pennsylvania is going to go to Biden
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are accurate. That is an indication by the Biden people that they don't believe the polls either.
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So they're sending Obama there to nail down a state that, in theory and on paper, Biden's already
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got in the bag. So that should tell you something. Also, the Trafalgar group, I think this is recent
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enough, has Trump ahead in the battleground states. So it doesn't really matter what the national polls
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say. The battleground states are enough. And so in at least five battleground states,
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Trump is ahead, according to the Trafalgar group, who has done better in the past than other
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pollsters. So you look at the ones who are the closest in 2016, and say, how are they? And once
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again, the ones that have the best results in 2016 are looking really good for Trump. Surprise.
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And we're also seeing polls that Trump is earning a higher percentage of black and Hispanic voters
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than he did in 2016. How would you like to be the Biden campaign and realize that Trump is doing way
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better with black and Hispanic voters? Pretty scary. Now, apparently, Biden is doing better with
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seniors. But I don't know if I believe that, because that may be also coming from the same
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illegitimate polls. But I suppose I could believe it. But I don't know if I do. It's possible just
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because Biden, you know, Biden's a Democrat, and Biden is promising things and scaring people
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with a bunch of lies about what Trump's going to do. So maybe, maybe. But I would think getting
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back the black, or gaining in the black and Hispanic voters is going to make a big deal.
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And also, the, if you just look at the enthusiasm, I think the enthusiasm gap is just so obvious.
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If you look at any Biden rally, it's, you know, three cars and two reporters standing in circles.
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And you look at any Trump event, and it's gigantic. Apparently, the polls show that Trump,
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Trump likely voters are twice as enthusiastic as other voters. So twice, two times more enthusiastic
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than Trump voters. That's not even close. Twice as enthusiastic. And it's pretty obvious. I mean,
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it matches your observation. Also, I think Trump was shown in one poll, maybe it's already changed,
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but 56% were better off, they thought. 56%. If that was the only thing you knew, that would pretty much
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determine what's going to happen. And apparently, Trump's approval rating is high enough, even with
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coronavirus and everything else, his approval rating is high enough that it actually predicts
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re-election. So we don't know, but we shall see. Here's a, we'll talk about Trump and coronavirus in
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a minute, but here's something I'm feeling, but I can't measure it. So tell me if you're feeling this
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too. The thing we're worried about is that the election results will not look credible to one side
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or the other, maybe both. And that could cause some kind of civil unrest leading to a breakdown of
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civilization or something. I'm feeling the opposite, and I'm feeling it strongly. Now, anecdotally,
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we're seeing lots of individual threats against, you know, we're going to hunt you down, you Trump
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supporters. We're seeing individual acts of violence on the street. And a lot of Trump supporters
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are thinking, if Trump loses, or even if he wins, and it's a contested election, are we going to be
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hunted down? Because it's feeling like that? And I'm going to tell you, it's starting to feel the
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opposite. And here's why. The very act of having an election, and the act of voting, and the act of
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getting, let's say, getting dirty, in analyzing the election, and really looking at the data and
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trying to understand what the candidates are proposing, looking at their policies, watching
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the debates, all of this stuff that is really super concentrated in the last month has an effect
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on us. And it has an effect of reintroducing us to democracy. Let's call it the republic, to be
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technical. But the principles of democratic government are, they've gone from something
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we know exists, but are not front of mind. It's now, it's not now going completely to front of mind.
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And in the world of persuasion, if you can get somebody to do a small thing, it's easier to get
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them to do a slightly bigger thing. It's how cults work. They get you to do small stuff, and then they
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gradually get you to do more stuff. But getting people to actually physically vote, physically
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fill out a ballot, physically deliver it, physically drive to the voting area, is very self-persuasive.
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Meaning that we are brainwashing ourselves back into the love of democracy, the love of the republic.
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And nobody's in charge of this, right? There's nobody whose message is, love your democracy.
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There's nobody who's, I mean, I guess the politicians say that sometimes, but you wouldn't identify with
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anybody. We are instead re-hypnotizing ourselves to love the country and love the system, even while
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we're complaining, right? Because you can complain like crazy and still love the thing you're complaining
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about, such as, you know, your own family. You can complain about your family, but still love them.
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And I feel like there's a thing happening. And you're going to feel it more and more right up to
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election day. And that thing is people buying into the system. If we do have a record turnout for the
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election, that also means we had a record number of people who bought into the system. And that
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is a very stabilizing thing. Very stabilizing. And the more people you see simply participating
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in a peaceful way, and those number of people are going to be, how many? Over 100 million?
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How many? Can somebody in the comments tell me how many people actually are likely to vote?
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100 million? Now add up all the people who have protested in 2020. All of them. Every person
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who went on the street, not just violent people, I'm not talking about looters, just every single
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person who went on the street, every person who's threatened a Trump supporter, every person
00:31:57.220
who did violence, if you add them all up, how many are there? 20,000? What would be the total number
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of people who seem to be revolution minded? You know, actually marched? 20,000? Maybe 100,000?
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But we're talking about 100 million Americans just reminded themselves that they were Americans.
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And we're going to keep reminding ourselves. And we're going to remind ourselves all the way to
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election day. And when this election is over, no matter which way it goes, and we fight about it,
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because we will. Will it go to the Supreme Court? I'd say more likely yes than no. More likely yes than
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no. But when it's all done, we will be immersed in the system. We will have participated. We will
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have done our part. We will have looked at the Supreme Court and watch it do its part. It will give us
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an answer that we will respect, because it won't be stupid. It's some of the smartest people in the
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whole freaking country are on the Supreme Court. They're not going to be stupid. You're going to
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be proud of it. You're going to be glad of it. You're going to be happy that you live in a system
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that can do this. It can do this. We can do this. Meaning the system can do this. And we can do it as
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well. So my feeling at the moment is that no matter which way it goes, there will be the required paid
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demonstrators. But I think the people demonstrating will largely be the organized people who have an
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agenda. The Marxists, anybody who's getting paid by an outside authority, some organization that's
00:33:49.980
trying to get power. But what I don't see happening is the bulk of the country, or enough of them,
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rejecting our system or rejecting the results. We'll complain about it forever, no matter which
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way it goes. We're going to complain forever. But we probably, and I'm going to say 99.9% chance,
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we will still be the United States in a year. We will still be the strongest country that the world has
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ever known. And we're not going to be beaten by the fake news. Because it's the fake news that winds
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us up. It's the AI that drives the fake news and drives the social engagement. Those things are not
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working on our side. But the AI wants to keep us alive. The AI doesn't want the country to be destroyed
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because that gives you less AI. So the AI wants the country to live. The public wants the country to
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live. The few people, the few people who don't, are going to have to deal with a country that is more
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armed than it has ever been before. If you think this country can be overthrown, I will give you what
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I call the ISIS analogy. ISIS looked unstoppable until their ambition got bigger. As soon as they
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tried to hold property and hold land and territory, they became an easy target. You knew exactly where
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they were. Oh, look, they are. This is their territory. There's their standing army. Let's blow
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them up. So things that work on a small scale do not necessarily work on a big scale. So if you take all
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these protesters, etc., they found this little niche, niche, niche, say it any way you like, translated into
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your head to your favorite pronunciation. So they found this weird little time and place that they could have
00:35:53.900
unlimited trouble. They'd have to find a democratic location. They'd have to get enough people that, you know,
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the police were sort of outnumbered. They'd need to have just the right political situation. They'd need to have
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funding from the outside. They'd have to have the right organizers. They'd have to have the right weather. And they
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would have to have a whole bunch of things. It has to be sort of perfect. But one thing they really, really need is that
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these citizens in the area they're causing trouble are not heavily armed. And that's not true once you
00:36:28.660
get out of the middle of the city. Soon as you get into the suburbs, people are armed to the teeth. And
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it's only going to take... I would be amazed if there's not a mass casualty event, let's say, working
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against the protesters. Now, the fact that it hasn't happened yet tells you a lot. As someone else was
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opining on social media, the fact that conservatives who are armed to the teeth, we all agree on that,
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conservatives are armed. But they have, I would say that they've held back the level of violence that
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they are capable of delivering. They have held back almost completely. You know, the Proud Boys
00:37:17.460
actually like to fight. That's literally part of the culture. So they sort of look for trouble. They
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like fights. But they don't represent, you know, conservatives or anything like that. You know,
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they have some overlap, but they certainly don't represent them. So it would take a lot,
00:37:34.980
apparently, to get conservatives mad enough to be violent in some general way. But if you move into
00:37:42.480
the suburbs, you got it. If these protests move into the suburbs, it would be like ISIS trying to
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hold property. You're going to move all these people into the kill zone, and somebody's going to
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do something that we don't recommend, but it's predictable, right? And once there's a
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mass casualty event among the protesters, they may be less inclined to protest again. But it would
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take getting to the, probably takes getting into the suburbs before that happens. But I don't see
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any chance that the, that the unrest can grow to destroy the country. I think that risk is basically
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zero. So there's that. Let's talk about Trump's performance on the coronavirus. Oh, by the way, I,
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I'm scheduled to be on MSNBC today. So later today, which would be sometime in the Eastern time zone,
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it would be between six and seven. I don't know when between then. So if you're in California,
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between three and four, if you're in East Coast, six to seven on MSNBC. So that's happening.
00:38:57.400
But let's talk about whether we know Trump is doing a good job or a bad job on coronavirus. And here are
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some things to make you smarter. So if you remember everything I tell you, it's an Arie Melber show on
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MSNBC. Somebody's asking. Here are the things you should ask yourself if somebody tells you Trump has
00:39:23.600
botched the coronavirus. So Trump closed China travel. And I think most people say he did it soon
00:39:32.240
enough, but he didn't close it completely because a lot of Americans who needed to get back home were
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there. And there's some thinking that he should have forced them into quarantine or not let them come
00:39:45.640
home, I suppose. I don't know how that works. How do you not let Americans come back home?
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That's a tough one. And we didn't really have the testing resources. And there were so many of them,
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apparently lots of them, that you couldn't test them all or quarantine them all. It just didn't seem
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practical. But here's the question I haven't seen asked or answered. What did the experts recommend
00:40:08.600
about the, I think it's mostly American citizens who were allowed back in from China? Did Fauci and
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Birx say to President Trump, yes, you should close travel from China, but make sure you close it all?
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Don't let the American citizens back in? Did that happen? Do you know if that happened or it didn't
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happen? Because I don't know. That feels like it's pretty important, right? Because if the experts were
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not terribly concerned about the number of people who were going to get back in, then why should the
00:40:44.820
president have been concerned? If what we're asking of the president, somebody says, yes, Fauci did.
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So if you have a source for that, I'd like to see it. I'd like to see anything that would suggest
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Fauci said it should be closed completely versus allowing the Americans back in,
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which would be a smaller number compared to total travel. So that's a question that I don't know. But
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if somebody says that too many people got back in, throw it back at them and say, what did Fauci and
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Birx say? Did they say not to let those people in? Some says they were quarantined. I don't believe
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that's true. I don't believe that the people coming in from China were quarantined. All right. So the
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number one question there is, what did Trump do that's different from what the experts told them
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to do? If Fauci and Birx had told Trump, no, no, no, you have to stop everybody. If that happened,
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wouldn't we know that? Because that would be the number one headline, wouldn't it? Trump doesn't do
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what experts say, right? If he violated what they recommended, we would know that, wouldn't we?
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And I don't know that. All right. Here's the other thing. If you think that Trump's treatment of masks
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caused fewer people to use them, and therefore more deaths, here's the question you would have to ask
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if you were good at comparing things. Would Obama have been better at getting conservatives to wear masks?
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What do you think? Is there any evidence to suggest that a President Obama or a President Clinton,
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or I'll even extend it, how about a President Mitt Romney? What tells you that any of them, Obama,
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Clinton, or Romney, which of them would have done a better job at getting conservatives to wear masks,
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and young people to wear masks? I think that's where the problems are. I have no reason to think any of
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them would have been more successful. It hasn't been tested. And certainly, there's no common sense
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that would suggest that they would be better at it. And I'm not even sure that Trump's example is really
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what's driving people. It might be. I mean, you have to worry about that. But I can't imagine that a
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Democrat would get Republicans to wear masks, or that the young people would say, oh, it's a Democrat
00:43:23.200
asking. I wasn't going to wear a mask to my college, you know, party, my illegal college party. But now
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that I know that a Democrat has asked me, I'm going to wear that mask. Said nobody. Said no college student
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ever. So I would say that the idea that Trump has not handled the mask wearing fits common sense.
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In other words, as you're watching him, you're saying, surely the way you're talking about this
00:43:52.340
is suboptimal. But that's not the end of the analysis. You still have to compare him to any
00:43:58.920
other President who would have been in that situation. And you'd have to know that that other
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President would have achieved greater mask wearing. Do you know that? Because I don't see that.
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It is not obvious to me that some other President would have somehow achieved this magical mask
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wearing thing. I think our desire to not wear masks has more to do with Americans than it does with our
00:44:24.400
President. How about this? If you took a leader from another country that you thought did a good job
00:44:32.180
with the coronavirus, let's say South Korea or New Zealand, and you just plop that leader into the
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United States with all of our problems. We've got more international travel than a lot of places
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coming in from different directions. We might have a less compliant populace who is more freedom-loving
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than compliant. We've got states' rights that add a wrinkle. How would that other leader do in the
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same situation? Well, there's no way to know. And therefore, you don't really have any knowledge
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of whether Trump did better or worse than some other leader would have done with the same scenario.
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How about this? How do you compare countries that have different preferences for freedom over safety?
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If the United States, by, let's say, historical and cultural reasons, we tend to, we value freedom
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over safety. More so than some other places, which I believe, if you did a poll, I don't know if
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anybody has done that, but if you did a poll, I think you would find that some countries value
00:45:39.720
health and safety over freedom, or at least their leaders do. Because if the leaders value it,
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maybe they can force it to happen. But if the United States favors more freedom
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at the expense of safety, how would you compare our death rate to a country that had a different set
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of priorities? How is that a fair comparison? We should only be compared to countries that have the
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same, let's say, preference for freedom over safety. And who would that be? I don't know. Do you?
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Because we didn't do exactly the same thing as Sweden, so that's not a good comparison.
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So people who are good at comparing things know that we don't have anything to compare.
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And how about this? We still don't know why one country does better than another country.
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We don't. If you read experts, and I'm talking about actual experts, who are talking about,
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let's say, Sweden's experience, they don't even agree. There's no expert consensus on why Sweden
00:46:50.300
is having the experience that they are. We don't even agree if it's a good experience. The experts
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can't even agree if things are going well there or poorly. I mean, think about that. We don't even know
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if they're doing well or poorly. And we don't know why some countries mysteriously have good effects
00:47:08.720
and others don't. We have lots of hypotheses from cultural distance things to, I think,
00:47:16.680
vitamin D might be a big part of it, age, ethnicity, maybe masks, maybe distance. Who knows?
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We don't know. So if you don't know, and I think that's fair to say, I feel like that's completely
00:47:32.320
fair to say that we don't know why some country does really well and some country doesn't. And if
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you don't know why some country is doing well and another one isn't, why are we attributing that
00:47:44.700
difference to the leaders? Because there's no evidence that it's the leaders that are the problem
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or the solution. All right. Now, so that would be the defense of the president's performance. And
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it's mostly around the fact that you really can't tell how anybody's doing. So that's the summary.
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You just can't tell. The fact that we have different outcomes only tells you there are different
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outcomes. The different outcomes do not tell you the quality of the leadership. It doesn't tell you
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that. All right. And when you imagine it does, you're in purely irrational territory. But that
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said, are there some things we can say about the president's performance that you could still
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clearly say are suboptimal? And the answer is yes. Here are the things that I would put at the top of
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the list. On day one, I can forgive that we didn't have good testing because apparently there was a
00:48:42.320
technical problem. We didn't know we had it. We got a late start. It's not exactly the president's fault.
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It was the fault of the experts who were doing the test kits, etc. But now it's been, what,
00:48:55.420
seven months in or something? Seven months later, I heard somebody else ask this on a news show.
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So I'll just borrow this thought. Why is it that seven months in, the most capable country in the
00:49:09.460
world, I'd like to think we are, maybe not. Why is it that I can't just walk down to CVS and get
00:49:16.420
myself a coronavirus test as often as I want? Ideally, I'd like to have the results, you know,
00:49:23.200
same day, 15 minutes. But are you telling me that if we put, you know, balls to the wall,
00:49:31.140
you know, War Powers Act, pull out all the stops, stop at nothing to make sure every citizen could get
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tested every freaking day. Every citizen, every day. How would we look in terms of the coronavirus
00:49:47.540
if we could do that? Well, a lot better, right? It would be a lot better. Has the president done that?
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No. No. And although he has done a lot, and there's a lot happening with testing, a lot of different
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companies are working on it, it does feel to me, just sort of as an observer, that by now,
00:50:12.920
if our president was doing everything that, you know, hindsight tells us he should have done,
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we would be a lot further along in all of us being able to get tested as much as we wanted.
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I feel like that's a safe statement. So if somebody said that's a problem, I don't know if I could argue
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that. I have argued in the past that contact tracing only works when you have just a few
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infections, and it doesn't work if you're already massively infected, as we were by the time we had
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enough tests to even think about that. So I think I would not blame the president for doing less
00:50:50.800
contact tracing, because we didn't have the ability to do it until it was sort of too late.
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But we should be able to test sort of everybody by now. And if we can't do it by now, can you tell
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us when we could do that? Is that sort of a late November, you're going to be able to go into any
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Walgreens and get a test? Yes or no? I'd love to know if that's on track. Somebody says disagree in
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the comments. You've got more room for text than the word disagree. So while testing is more
00:51:29.100
available, it's certainly not available enough. Why don't you have an oxygen meter in your house?
00:51:36.460
How many of you have your own oxygen meter? You know, it's an inexpensive device. You just
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clip it to your finger and it tells you your oxygen level. Why don't you have one of those?
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Because those are really one of the first indicators you've got a problem, even before
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a test, probably. Now, a lot of you have them. But why isn't a national effort to put one in every
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house? Wouldn't you feel better if the president had said, look, we're going to fund one of these
00:52:08.260
companies that makes those oxygen meters, and we're going to just mail one to every house with a
00:52:13.880
ballot? You know, we'll probably mail them to the wrong addresses too. We'll just mail one to every
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house. There will be no house that doesn't have an oxygen meter. That would feel like better
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leadership, right? That didn't happen. Why are we not being continuously reminded to take more vitamin D?
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Wouldn't that feel like good leadership? If every time you saw the president, he said,
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make sure you're supplementing with vitamin D. Because, you know, he does mention wash your
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hands and wear a mask if you're in close social distancing range. But wouldn't you like to see a
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little more on vitamin D? You're probably doing it on your own. But wouldn't you like to see more of
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that? Why have we not done a test of two different cities, one where masks are required, one where
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they're not, if they have enough in common that maybe you could tell there's a difference? I would
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feel like we had better leadership if we had more tests going on. You know, a test this versus this,
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A-B testing. I don't see that. I'm not sure that would be easily organized by the federal government.
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But they could at least call it out if there are two cities that went two different ways. I'd like
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to see the president say, okay, we've got a good test case. We've got Cleveland going this way. We've
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got Miami going this way. And hypothetically, let's say they had enough in common with infection rates
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or whatever, that now we can see if these, if these procedures make a difference in the curve.
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Curve. Wouldn't you like to see that? And then, of course, Trump has claimed that he does a bad job
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explaining masks and the efficiency of masks. He made the claim that 85% of people who wear masks
00:54:03.280
caught COVID. So he kind of butchered that explanation. It wasn't about masks working or not.
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So he's definitely said things which probably discourage people from wearing masks. That
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feels safe. But again, would Obama have done better? How would you know? I don't see conservatives
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saying, oh, Obama said it. I guess I'll go wear a mask now. Doesn't feel like that would happen.
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All right. So those are your pros and cons for Trump and coronavirus. I sent a tweet this morning.
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I said that listening to the experts is the dumbest smart sounding idea of all time. There's some things
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that sound smart, but they're really the dumbest thing ever. I'll give you another example. Be yourself.
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Have you ever gotten, have you ever heard that advice? So be yourself. Just be yourself. That's the best
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thing you can do. Worst advice ever. There's no advice that's worse than be yourself.
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Now, here's better advice. Try to be a better version of yourself. Try to be better than yourself.
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All right. Now, that's good advice. Try to continuously improve. Try to not accept where
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you are as good enough. Don't try to be yourself because you wouldn't wear clothes. You wouldn't,
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you wouldn't bathe. Uh, you know, you wouldn't obey the law. If it was just up to you, just be in
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yourself. You'd be the worst person ever. Do you ever have a friend who, uh, tells you that they're
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just being honest? Oh yeah. I know. I know it's, it might sound rude, but I'm just honest. I'm just
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being honest. Do you want that? Wouldn't you rather be around somebody who wouldn't be that honest if
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the only purpose is to hurt you? Can't help you. Didn't, didn't help you at all. It was just honest
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that it hurt. Maybe you don't want that person to be around you. All right. So listening to the experts
00:56:13.780
is the seriously, the stupidest advice anybody ever gave. And still, and still I'm going to give
00:56:22.900
you that advice too. It's both the stupidest advice ever given. And I'm also going to give it to you
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right now. Yeah. You have to, you have to listen to the, the experts. You have to, you'd be an idiot
00:56:35.740
not to, but believing them. That's another story because you have to, you know, you want to reach
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the level of maturity where you can say this to yourself. If the experts don't agree, how do you
00:56:52.220
know which expert is right? You're not the expert on experts. You're not an expert on coronavirus.
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You're not an expert on climate change. And if you talk to the experts, you don't know if they're
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lying to you. You can't tell you're just trusting the experts. So are you really trusting science?
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Are you really listening to science? Are you really listening to the experts? Well, you might be
00:57:16.900
listening to them, but should you, you don't know, you don't know. How do you know that science is at
00:57:24.680
that early stage where they might be more wrong than right on some topic, or they've progressed to the
00:57:31.520
point where they're more right than wrong? How can you tell where they are on that progression? Can you
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tell that something is really settled versus something that's not yet settled? You can't tell.
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There's no way to tell. Even an expert can't tell that. So you certainly can't tell. So if you don't
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know which experts are right and which ones are wrong, what does it mean to trust the experts?
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It's nonsense. It's complete nonsense. So instead, you know, on questions like, you know, masks and
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hydroxychloroquine and lockdowns, clearly there are experts on both sides. So what about going with
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the majority? How about that? Should you go with the majority? Because most experts, if they're all on
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one side, let's say it's 90-10, would you go with the 90 just automatically? Well, again, you don't know
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if this is a mature science in which when 90% of the people are on the same side, it tells you a lot.
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It tells you that that is a solid opinion. Or is it the beginning where 90% of the people are wrong,
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well, we won't know for a while? How do you tell? You can't. So what I do is risk management instead.
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So instead of saying that those experts are certainly right, I say to myself, if I follow
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this expert, what's the upside and what's the downside? So with masks, for example, I don't
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believe the experts because that would be stupid. And I don't believe them because there are more
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they say it's that they work than don't, although I'm biased by that. I admit I'm biased by that,
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but it's not automatically true because most experts say it. It's not true because there are studies,
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metadata, meta-analysis, as Dr. Fauci says, that doesn't make it true because there are probably
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plenty of things that there's meta-analysis and it's wrong. And we know that 50% of the studies
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that are submitted to journals and published, peer-reviewed and published, something like half
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of them turn out to be not reproducible. So science isn't one thing that's right and all the smart
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people believe it because it's one thing and it's right. Science is this big mess of stuff that is more
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wrong than right because there's more stuff that you're working through the early parts than there are
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things that you've settled. And you don't know what's wrong and you don't know what's right.
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So I go with risk management. And I stated myself, for example, I don't know anybody who died from
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wearing a mask. Do you? I don't know anybody. I don't know anybody who got a, like some incurable
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disease from wearing a mask. Do I believe it's possible? Yeah. Yeah, totally. Do I believe that
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some people might be worse off wearing masks and that the downside for those certain medical
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conditions, et cetera, is worse than the risk of getting coronavirus? Yeah, those people certainly
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exist. I would say so. But until I see people dropping from mask-related illness, I'm going to go with
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the meta-analysis and the Fauci that says we think it works. It might work. Could be wrong. But we don't
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see people dying from wearing masks. But the meta-analysis strongly suggests people will die
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from not wearing masks. So it's a risk management question. That is how smart people act. Trusting
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experts is the dumbest frickin' thing you could ever do in your life, even though they're usually
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right. They're usually right. I would bet that if you looked at all expert opinions over time,
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you'd find they're more right than wrong, depending on the category.
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All right. And that's about all I wanted to talk about. How about that?
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Scott doesn't have to wear a mask for four hours like teachers. Well, I would grant you that wearing
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a mask for a long time is way riskier than wearing it for a short time. So that's true. And there again,
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I would go to, if we see a massive health issue from wearing masks, and we would see it first in
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the people who have to wear masks for longer periods, I would say we should take that seriously.
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But until we do, there's been enough people wearing masks. I mean, look at Asia. In Asia,
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it's fairly common for people to wear masks, you know, all day long. Do we have data from Asia that
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says, oh, all those mask wearers were worse off? Don't think so. Now, there's another thing
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happening. I don't have confirmation of this. But it looks like the regular influenza rates are low
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this year. I need a fact check on that because I didn't see a source I trusted. But I'm very curious
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what regular influenza will look like this year. If masks work, you would expect it would be lower
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than ever. If there's some kind of cross immunity thing, maybe it'll be less than ever because of
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that. But here's something that I would at least put out there as a possibility. I've told you before
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that the regular influenza death rate is fake, and that you've never met anybody who died from regular
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flu. Have you? Now, there's always going to be somebody who says yes. But we all know somebody
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who died of coronavirus. You know, maybe not directly. But you know somebody who knows somebody
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who died of coronavirus. You see them in the news, etc. That seems real. There are real people dying of
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coronavirus, and a lot of them. You don't know a lot of people who died of influenza. I know exactly
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zero in 63 years of life. Apparently, 20,000 to 50,000 people around me have been dropping dead
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from this influenza, and somehow I never noticed. It escaped my view. I certainly know people who died
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in traffic accidents, and that's about the same number per year, right? Ask yourself this. Do you know
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anybody who died of an overdose or anybody who died of a traffic-related accident? Yes, you do.
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How many of those are there per year? About the same as alleged influenza deaths. I mean, it's in that
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range, you know, the low tens of thousands per year. Same range. Why is it you know somebody who died of
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AIDS, probably? You know somebody who died of a car accident? I know somebody who died in a parachute
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accident. But I don't know anybody who died of influenza. So I'm going to say that, and this is
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one of the tips I have in my book, Loser Think, that if you're trying to figure out what's true and
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what's false, here are some tips. If the news on the left and the news on the right says a fact is a
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fact and they say it the same, it's probably true. If either the news on the left or the news on the
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right are the only ones that say it's a fact, but the other news says it's not a fact, it's probably
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not a fact, all right? Whoever says it's not true has the advantage. It's usually not true if somebody
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says it's not true. All right. That's a weird comment. And the other way you can tell if
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something's true, or at least it's a flag, is if the official data completely conflicts with your
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observation. All right. For example, most of my life, I was taught that if you ate within, I don't know,
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half an hour or whatever of swimming, you would get a cramp and you would die because you ate food
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too close to swimming. And yet I lived my entire life without hearing of a single person who died
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because they got a cramp because they ate food too close to swimming. Do you know how many times
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everybody I know ate food too soon to swimming? Basically everybody. So the whole world is full of
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people who are violating that, eating food and swimming, and I'd never heard of anybody who got a
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cramp and died from swimming. And then decades pass, and sure enough, the science comes out and it says,
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um, there was never any science to suggest you would get a cramp from eating before swimming.
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Sure enough, the observation was that none of it was happening. The data, what I thought was the science,
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probably was never real science, but I thought it was science, said that people were dropping like
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flies, or at least they could. So this, the influenza thing is the same.
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Um, it's the same that it doesn't match observation. And I still have a big question on the Spanish flu.
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I'm seeing in the comments, somebody mentioned that. How did the Spanish flu ever go away?
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If everything that we've been told by the experts is true, and remember, we're supposed to trust the
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experts. But the experts have told us that unless you have herd immunity, a virus isn't going to go
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away. Spanish flu didn't reach herd immunity, did it? But it went away. So is that because there was
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some other immunity that was cross-immunity? Was it because there's a genetic thing where all the people
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could get it got it? There's a big, big unknown about the Spanish flu. And I see people even
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disagreeing about whether masks worked during the Spanish flu. I feel like we would know that,
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wouldn't we? But I guess we don't. Um, all right. That's all I got for now. I think that's plenty,
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don't you? I hope you enjoyed today's episode of Coffee with Scott Adams. And I will see you
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tomorrow. Well, if you're watching me on MSNBC, you'll see me later today. Otherwise, I'll see you
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tomorrow. All right, YouTubers. Um, Periscope is off. I'm just watching you right now, looking at
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your, uh, somebody says that they wore gauze for the Spanish flu. Yeah, that wouldn't work as well,
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would it? Um, influenza is generally not listed on, uh, death certificates. Um, that is correct.
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Uh, influenza is actually not counted. It's estimated based on excess, uh, mortality,
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but I got a feeling there's some other reason that people are dying. So, um, why are you doing
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this Periscope YouTube difference? Um, I don't know the question, but I'll, let me give you a
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general answer. In order to do a live stream on both Periscope and YouTube, I had to use two
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different iPads that are just, you know, nailed up to the two different services. And I just put them
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in front of me together so that I'm on both. But every other technology, such as this device you see
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behind me, that's a $13,000 worth of equipment, high-end equipment to be able to live stream
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different, uh, to different destinations doesn't work. Now, technically it works, but you would need
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to be a full-time engineer to, to debug it every time it goes down. Uh, unfortunately, if you have
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a Windows platform, and I don't know why anybody would use Windows, frankly. Do you use Windows for
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anything? Because every time you turn it on, it just starts begging you for updates and, and downloads
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and, and you just can never use it. When I open up my Macintosh, I just start working.
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Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. If I open up a Windows machine, I can spend the next hour just debugging all
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the things that, uh, degraded since the last time I opened my computer. You know, all the software's
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on a date and it's just a mess. So, uh, anyway, so all those, the systems that, um, try to stream to
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multiple, uh, outlets, they use Windows machines, which are not dependable devices. And so you can't
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really use them for production. And that's all I got for now. And I'll see you later.