Episode 1165 Scott Adams: Kanye Interview Discussed, Hunter's Naughty Video, Middle East Strategy, More
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Scott Adams joins me to talk about the Hunter Biden sex tape, the Coronavirus crisis, and why Abraham Lincoln might be the saddest person of 2020 and why it's a bad time to be a dead man.
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Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum hey everybody come on in it's time it's time
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for coffee with Scott Adams yes you're wondering did my wife Christina come home from her first
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solo pilot trip and she did it was all good she hasn't cut my hair yet I know that's what you're
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looking at but that'll happen later today with all luck but first what do we need to make this day
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exceptional it's called the simultaneous sip and all you need what do you need you know you need a
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cup or mug or glass a tank or chalice or stein a canteen jug or flask a vessel of any kind fill it
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with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine hit
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of the day the thing that makes everything better except the Hunter Biden sex tape it happens now go
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no I was wrong it made the Hunter Biden sex tape better too huh I didn't see that coming
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and neither did she well let's talk about the news shall we of course we shall turns out that
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five aides of vice president pence have now been tested positive for the coronavirus I'm getting an
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update hold on update vice president pence's five aides plus one fly have now tested positive for
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coronavirus I hear the fly is doing well as are the other five aides now I don't know about you but
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if you had a choice of a vice president who was invulnerable to coronavirus which apparently pence is
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um because he's the only one who doesn't get it all the people around him they're dropping like
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flies um but not him pence is invulnerable so there's that um so yesterday there was a disturbing
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video going around how many of you saw it no I'm not talking about Kanye's interview on Joe Rogan we'll
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talk about that in a minute I'm talking about yeah the Hunter Biden sex tape
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now when I heard that there was going to be one that there was one on the the so-called Hunter
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Biden laptop um I said to myself well there's probably not really I mean who actually who actually
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takes a sex tape of themselves and then just keeps it on their laptop and then takes that laptop to the
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shop you know uh I don't want to give tips to Hunter Biden but if I were it would go like this
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find an offline place to store that stuff maybe not right on your laptop that's just my little tip
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don't put your crack smoking and your sex tape on your own laptop and then take it in for service
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but uh if you were wondering uh if you're wondering if that laptop actually belonged to Hunter
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I would say it either belonged to Hunter or there's somebody else in the world who has a
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terrible terrible taste in porn because I you know in my case of course it's the first time I've ever
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seen uh sex on video but uh I imagine that other regular professional uh porn is is better made
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I've never seen any but I know you have of course because you need it but uh I've never seen porn
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yeah let's go with that all right um I feel like the saddest person of 2020
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might be Abraham Lincoln and he's dead because 2020 might be the second worst year for Abraham Lincoln
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the first one involved going to a play but this year he's associated with the quote Lincoln project
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how would you like to be uh honest Abe Lincoln and be associated with the Lincoln project
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if he popped back to life if we found a way to reanimate him can you just imagine that you know
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you know there's a dead Abraham Lincoln he's in his he's in his tube and we find a way to reanimate
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him and he's like he wakes up like oh all right what's new what's new and they go well your
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things not going so well for your legacy here are some tweets from the Lincoln project what do you
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think and honest Abe would look at him and say kill me kill me and then they'd say um but the good
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news is we made a lot of statues of you so there are lots of statues um okay well the one just came
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tearing down but there are lots more okay well there goes another statue poor Abe it's a bad time
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to be it's a bad time to be Lincoln even if you're dead here's a question I've been uh wondering do you
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know how you can get used to anything I talk about this psychological phenomenon all the time and it's
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way more important than it sounds the first time you hear it because it it explains so many things
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there's a lot in our world that can be explained by this one thing you can get used to anything
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that's it it sounds like nothing until you realize how common and how powerful it is in terms of
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explaining your world here's something that we got used to and it it was just sort of gradual and it
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sort of snuck up on us and now we've accepted as normal the following thing I'm going to describe the
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current situation and you tell me if there's any exaggeration in this it goes like this political
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advertisements and political debates both have the same element in common which is they intentionally
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misrepresent the other side and then they criticize their own misrepresentation of the other side
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now if you did that once in a while you know that would be something your your opponent would call
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out oh you liar you're misrepresenting me that's sort of the way it used to be I think but if you
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if you were to look at a political ad or a debate today there wouldn't be anything else in other words
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there would be no case in which the political opponent accurately describes what's what the other
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candidate wants to do never it won't even happen one time everything that one candidate describes and
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criticizes about the other won't be true it'll be some weird weird version they made up to criticize
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so I ask you this what's the point of it all what is the point having a debate in which the topic of
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the debate is exclusively things that aren't happening think about it every claim that uh that biden makes
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about trump and kind of every every claim that trump makes about biden is some weird distorted version of
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the of the reality on the other side so why do we need a process to watch two people talking about things that
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don't exist and won't exist but if they did how bad it would be
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right that I don't see any point of that the only thing you get out of it is sort of a sense of the
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let's say the mental nimbleness or the uh the clarity of somebody's thinking maybe but you don't see anything
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about policy nothing because it's all just made up stuff and criticisms of made up stuff there's
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nothing there and somehow we got to the point where we've accepted that that's our process imagine if
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you drew this process out on paper before you had implemented it there had never been an election
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there'd never been any democracy you're just inventing it today and you say all right how about this
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we'll have two candidates who will just uh lie about what the other one wants to do and what the
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other one has done so far and then they'll criticize the lie that they made up and then when they're done
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we'll go to the other candidate and then they'll do the same thing they'll invent a bunch of fiction
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they'll criticize their own fiction and that's it that's the whole process and we'll call it a democracy
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who would have approved that system who in the world would have approved that system it's a
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ridiculous system but the fact is nobody has a better one and part of what you realize when you
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see how ridiculous the system is and it still sort of works that's the weird part is our system works
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people get elected and then the public says okay that was a fair election we voted for who we wanted to
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vote for and we call it credible and then we go on with our lives as if we had done something that
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wasn't ridiculous it was completely ridiculous we might as well flip a coin but i do think you get to
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see at least a little bit of the intelligence uh of the candidates maybe that's all you get out of that
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um over in uh france uh macron has vowed to crack down on radical islamism islamism why do you have
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to crack down on radical islamism as opposed to radical islam i wonder why they have to add the ism
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anyway that's just what is said in the news and here's my question for you as an american for those of
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you who are americans when was the last time you worried about a radical islamic attack in the
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united states now we're not out of the woods it's not like it's not like it's never going to happen
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it's not like we'll never have another one you have to assume these things will pop up but correct me
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if i'm wrong france has a national problem that the united states doesn't and it's because of our
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president am i wrong about that is it wrong to give trump credit for the thing he said he would do
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that apparently has been done which is to make us safer from radical islamic terrorists because
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i'm not seeing a lot of radical islamic terror attacks and apparently if you're in france you can
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have your head cut off for publishing the wrong kind of cartoon i've published some bad cartoons but
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nobody's nobody has yet uh tried to take my head off um so i feel as though one of the problems that
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trump has running for re-election is that when you solve a problem it goes away right every every time
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you solve a problem it's one thing you don't have to think about anymore so to the extent that trump
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has solved some problems you know we're not worrying so much about all-out war in the middle east we're
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not worrying about so much about islamic terror attacks on the homeland we're not worrying so much
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about even um i would say immigration became less of a concern in our minds i don't know if it's less
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of a concern in reality but it could be just because coronavirus cut down the volume
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somebody says wait for it yeah i suppose it could happen i mean there there's there's nothing that
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would stop it from happening but i've got a feeling that whatever the administration is doing behind
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the scenes which you might not like because it might affect your privacy and everything else but i feel
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like the united states can't be that lucky it's got to be skill right it would it be fair to say that
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whatever we're doing with all of our fbi and and other intelligence services etc could we say at this
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point that it's skill that has kept us safe in recent years i feel like it it doesn't feel like
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luck because i don't know why the other side would have wanted to stop attacking i guess the number two
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guy in al-qaeda got or one of the top guys in al-qaeda got got grabbed in afghanistan yesterday so
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al-qaeda is not not doing so well um so anyway i i feel happy whenever i don't have a problem that
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france has speaking of france and the other countries the coronavirus is raging back and
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raging back in the united states but uh the second wave is going to be really different from the first
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because the first wave of coronavirus came with gigantic death tolls the second wave could also
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well will also uh kill a lot of people but i'll bet it won't be anywhere near what the first wave was
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meaning that i think we've reduced the death rate by 85 percent um i see in the comments somebody is
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using the word attend attenuation which is the word for when the virus sort of evolves and mutates to
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the point where it's less lethal but we haven't seen any signs of that we know that other viruses do that
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but i don't think the coronavirus has yet shown any any sign of attenuation but maybe maybe it
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happens quickly when it happens so we'll see but um i feel as though the second wave is going to be
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lots and lots of infections with fewer and fewer deaths in other words i think our death rate might
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continue to fall not quickly but will sort of trend down while the infection rate goes through the roof
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at some point that infection rate won't reach you know herd levels because i don't think it's going
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to get to 50 or 60 percent but maybe it doesn't need to maybe it doesn't need to maybe a lower amount
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will be enough all right um one of the things that hunter biden talks about is that obamacare
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made i guess obamacare made it illegal for insurers to charge women more for health care
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even if women cost more now of course women could cost more i suppose if they uh live longer and also
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have reproductive related expenses so what is the point of insurance when the insurance is not
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related to uh the actual risk now you say to yourself but scott scott scott you can't have
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insurance that treats one gender differently or one ethnicity different how would you feel if they
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charge different rates for different ethnicities even if different ethnicities did have different
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costs take the coronavirus for example has a bigger impact on black americans would you think it was
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fair that black americans pay more for health insurance because they might have more let's say
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hypothetically if they had more expenses because of coronavirus or other things no we wouldn't think
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that was fair but i wanted can you do a fact check for me isn't car insurance still based on gender
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can somebody do a quick fact check on that because i haven't checked it in a long time but don't we
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charge more for older people in health care how is that fair don't older people um they do cost more
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right health care costs more if you're older but why is that fair it's it's not fair to charge women
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more if they actually cost more but you can charge senior citizens more why did we just randomly decide
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that was okay you know isn't that just another form of discrimination and what about car insurance
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i'm seeing some uh confirmation in the comments i don't know if you looked it up or you just know it
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yeah car insurance you can charge more for men because men have more accidents but is that fair to
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me because i'm the type of man who doesn't have many accidents in fact i think i've caused zero in my
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life i don't believe i've been in several accidents but i don't believe any of them have been objectively
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speaking my fault i think i've always been under receiving it now why am i a safe bet i don't even
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drink i don't drink alcohol can you imagine how much less risk you have as a driver if you don't
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drink alcohol it's a pretty big difference pretty big difference do you know what uh lower risk i have
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just because of my personality because my personality is i don't take big chances on things that don't
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have a big reward what would be my big reward for driving 20 miles over the speed limit as opposed to
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my normal 10 not much so why would i take extra risk for no extra reward so my personality even though
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i'm a member of that terribly dangerous class called men it's not fair to me i i was just born a man
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why is it why do i have to pay extra totally unfair now it kind of uh i'm not really saying it's unfair
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that men are charged more for car insurance because we do we do have more accidents there's no doubt about
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it but if you're gonna take the standard that insurance can apply in some cases what would be
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the argument for saying in other cases oh no in other cases it's all right i don't know it's an
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inconsistency let's call it that all right how many of you have heard the three-hour kanye west interview
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on joe rogan now the first thing you think when i say it's a three-hour kanye west interview
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on joe rogan it's literally three hours of almost exclusively kanye talking do you think that would
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be interesting for three hours yep yep it is three hours in which you almost can't you can't tear
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yourself away it is so freaking interesting the kanye interview on joe rogan and i want to talk about
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it for a minute even even though some of you haven't seen it i'm going to assign it for homework
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okay so your homework is you really have to listen to this and don't listen to it just for its
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entertainment value but it's completely worth worth it for just for the entertainment because he's
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interesting from the first second to the last second kanye doesn't know how to be uninteresting
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he just doesn't know how he's like trump in that way you put trump you know you put trump on the
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stage and you just say all right you got three hours try not to bore me in three hours trump could
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pull that off he could keep you interested for three hours kanye did it too i'll probably watch it again
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it's that good now if you say but what is it he does you know what's the thing he does that makes you
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so entertained or interested scott and i would say it's hard to put your finger on it but i'm gonna
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try it goes like this the first thing i was looking for is how crazy he is right you want to see how
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crazy is kanye because you know he's crazy right you've all heard it it's been in the news he's admitted
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that he's been you know he had some medical care for mental health questions he has referred to
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himself as being uh diagnosed bipolar so that's what you're looking for and you're definitely
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going to find it right i mean if he's got all these problems and he talks for three hours you can't hide
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a mental problem if you talk for three hours on camera right so you're going to see it wasn't there
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wasn't there but instead there was an alternative movie the one i wasn't watching on my screen but i
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got to you know shift to my movie when when kanye described it and it went like this if you're bipolar
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one of the you know one of the signs for that is that you have this manic phase where where you think
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you can conquer the world and you can do anything and you're full of energy and full of ideas and you
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know you're just you're just sort of crazy but what happens when you're kanye and you say something like
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i'm going to make i'm going to be the most important um musician in the world
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but then he goes and does it so in retrospect it sounded crazy right when he first said it
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but then he went and did it and then he probably said something about being i'm imagining something
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about becoming the best or you know most important designer in the world and you say to yourself kanye
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it was weird enough that you became one of the most important musicians in the world you know that's
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weird enough but you're not going to do this other thing and then he does it he does it he says he's
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worth five billion dollars probably and so now he's one of the most uh you know richest people in the
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country so then he thinks he says uh i'm going to build some you know uh homes and shelters
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i'm going to design the town i want to become the leader of the free world without ever having any
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uh practice as being a politician and you say to yourself kanye kanye that's a that's a little bit
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too far all right it's one thing to be a big musical star okay you got lucky okay you got lucky twice
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you started your you know your fashion and clothing thing and it's a gigantic success sure and all right
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you you you decided that you wanted to respond to what he describes as his calling from god and create
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sort of the most you know impressive big church situation outdoors with you know choirs and stuff
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and okay it's a gigantic success okay all right so you did three things but kanye you're not going to
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become president of the whole you know world you know or president of the united states or as he says
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leader of the free world you're not going to do that that's crazy right they actually medicated
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kanye to make him stop thinking that way think about this they medicated kanye they medicated him
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they medicated him for being kanye they medicated him it's crazy so here's the thing before i watched
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kanye on joe rogan and if you had said to me privately you know all right scott we're not going to tell
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anybody because i know you like you like kanye so you might not say this in public but just privately
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what do you think privately do you think he could be president two days ago i would have said
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you know i think he's a great guy he's got a lot of great skills and i think he's a great leader but
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i don't think he could be president because president's kind of a sort of a particular skill
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and i just don't know that he has quite you know that game he has an amazing game but i just don't know
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would have fit in that realm that's what i would have said two days ago then i watched the joe rogan
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interview and yeah i i'll accept that some of you will disagree with me but after watching the joe
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rogan interview he could be the president of the united states and i don't think there's a thing
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missing not a thing he's smart enough he looks sane enough to me so unless there's something he's
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really holding out i want more of the crazy stuff i don't want less of it because the stuff that uh that
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he's he's the things that people say he's crazy about he's actually ahead of his time he's actually
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just working at a different level than other people uh let me give you one example of it he talked
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about this when he speaks for three hours it's not like other people where you're judging each
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sentence it's like oh that was a good sentence that was a good point or that was a good paragraph
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he actually says this out loud that when he's speaking he's creating a symphony in other words
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until you reach the end of it you don't know what you got because he's creating not just a series of
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points but he's creating a hole and he's painting this freaking masterpiece while you're watching
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it come together so if you were watching let's say a master painter create a painting you know the
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first would be maybe you'd pencil out the general shapes and then he put down some base colors and
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stuff like that and none of that would look very interesting it's not until you know the last dashes
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of paint around there you can say whoa i see what you did there i didn't see it from the beginning
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but now that it's done whoa and that's the feeling you'll get after the interview and he says it
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consciously he tells you he's building this thing with words and then you watch him build it right in
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front of you it's phenomenal now i'll tell you what um the the things that really jumped out at me
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about this in no particular order uh number one oh let me let me let me uh just divert for a second
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because kanye is so interesting and even though joe rogan is a you know gigantic star in his own right
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when you put him in the same room and on the same interview with kanye even joe rogan will sort of
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disappear right because it's you know kanye is a million wattage and as big a star as joe rogan is
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it's just hard to be kanye but i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you that you will not notice it because all
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your attention is going to kanye but step back for a minute or and even watch the whole three hours again
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to see the best interviewer skills you've ever seen the best interviewer skills you've ever seen
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period i've watched and been in a lot of interviews right so i've been the i've been the recipient of
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many how many interviews in my life maybe thousands by now at least many hundreds of interviews but maybe
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thousands and you can really tell the difference between a good interviewer and a bad interviewer
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and what joe rogan did in this interview is extraordinary it's extraordinary because first of all you have
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to create a safe situation um and like with negotiating negotiating is not just the things you do during
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the negotiation it's also setting the table so that when when you walk into the negotiations you should
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already have an advantage because you've created a situation that's favorable to you before before
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you even start because you already started you set the table and joe does that partly just by being who
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he is and creating this product that people trust and they know who he is and they feel that they can
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you know open up to him so the first part of his genius is the whole is all of it right everything that
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got him to this point was good or else he couldn't be here but then in the interview
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remember you're you're joe rogan you are a star you know you're you you give uh stand-up comedy you've done
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you know movies tv you've done all these things you know you're spotify star etc and you have to sit there
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for three hours and let kanye be the star it's not easy it's not easy and when you watch the restraint
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that uh rogan put into this interview the the times when he could have jumped in and he held back
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because he would let kanye talk and then just stop and just sit there quietly until kanye was ready to
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talk again because apparently joe could tell that he wasn't done that that there was more to that
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i i don't know how to say enough about how good that was
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and the reason i call it out is that you'll miss it if you're just watching kanye so watch them both
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all right so more about kanye here's what i liked he referred to himself
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um sometimes as a designer and sometimes as an engineer and you could listen to him talk about
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his interests from you know music to fashion to politics now but also his interest in uh he's
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building shelters and he's trying to design some kind of local maybe indoor farming situation
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and he's trying to design a community from the from the home to the you know the the feel of it to the color of the space
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he talked about it programming the people in it
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and it's exactly what's needed in fact at the end of the interview i thought to myself
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what he's talking about maybe watching the three hours
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but everything that we do from the way we interact
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the physical distance that we have to each other
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and how the and how the space influences our minds
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and how all that will influence how we work together
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you know it's a it's a it's just a third dimension
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and you can see him as he's talking from topic to topic to topic
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who is very consciously adding layer after layer of skill
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and then when it's filtered through his special brain
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and like unlike other designers who are outside their design
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and right now he's living inside the United States
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what would you do with you know foreign adversaries
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he only sees everything connected to everything
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did you see any news about any protests last night
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are we not watching the protests being turned off