Real Coffee with Scott Adams - October 31, 2020


Episode 1171 Scott Adams: Rappers Like Trump, Beware the Dad Jokers Answering Polls, The FBI and Hunter, More


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 11 minutes

Words per Minute

147.91064

Word Count

10,587

Sentence Count

627

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

Trump supporters are lying to pollsters because they think it's funny, and Democrats are laughing at them because they can't tell when Trump is joking or if he's serious. Also, the stock market hit a record high on election day, and Trump is going to win the election.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 But I don't know if I believe it.
00:00:03.260 All right, YouTubers, you missed the simultaneous sip because of technological problems.
00:00:07.900 But we're apparently working right now.
00:00:12.460 Oh, somebody says it's actually not working.
00:00:14.880 All right, well, screw that.
00:00:16.400 We'll just go on.
00:00:18.180 All right, so here's my point.
00:00:20.640 I think the biggest category of people who are lying to pollsters are not shy Trump supporters.
00:00:26.940 Looks like he's working on YouTube now.
00:00:30.880 So I think it's the dad joke category.
00:00:34.880 Because for every person who is lying to a pollster because they don't want the pollster to know they're a Trump supporter,
00:00:42.540 I feel like there might be four or five people who are lying to pollsters because they think it's hilarious.
00:00:50.300 And here's the fun part.
00:00:53.580 Well, as you know, a great deal of people on the left do not have a functioning sense of humor.
00:01:02.060 And that's part of the reason that they're horrified by Trump is they literally can't tell when he's joking.
00:01:08.200 I mean, actually, literally, they don't know when he's kidding.
00:01:12.300 So they think he has all these dictator tendencies, etc.
00:01:17.380 Because they can't tell when he's just joking and when he's serious.
00:01:22.640 And I think that there probably are four or five to one Trump supporting people who just think it's freaking hilarious that the polls are wrong.
00:01:35.840 Am I right about that?
00:01:37.500 Whoever is saying no sound, I should block you because I think you're a troll.
00:01:45.580 That's the trolliest thing to say on these live streams.
00:01:49.460 Don't be that guy.
00:01:51.240 All right.
00:01:53.920 So I think that lack of sense of humor by the left gives them a blind spot.
00:01:59.100 Meaning that if I said to Democrats, here's a mental experiment.
00:02:05.700 There are 10 Democrats and 10 Trump supporters.
00:02:09.680 You go to the 10 Democrats and you say the following.
00:02:13.540 Hey, I think Trump supporters are joking.
00:02:17.240 And it's like a practical joke that they lie to pollsters because they think it's funny.
00:02:22.140 And the result will be Democrats screaming at the sky when Trump wins.
00:02:28.280 And they think that that's worth lying to pollsters about.
00:02:31.740 What would Democrats say about that?
00:02:33.820 I believe they would say, well, that's not a thing.
00:02:37.500 Right?
00:02:38.620 Don't you think the Democrats would say, Scott, Scott, Scott.
00:02:42.440 Don't tell me that there's some massive collusion conspiracy in which there's a whole bunch of Republicans who just magically, they've all coordinated, Scott.
00:02:57.380 Who's in charge of this?
00:02:59.140 Who's coordinating this, Scott, this conspiracy that you see of all these Republicans who are lying to pollsters?
00:03:07.080 Ha, ha, ha, Scott.
00:03:08.820 You're so ridiculous.
00:03:11.280 Right?
00:03:11.560 Don't you think a Democrat would just mock me for even suggesting that a massive amount, not a small amount, a very large number of Trump supporters are lying because they think it's funny?
00:03:25.760 All right.
00:03:26.120 Now I walk over to the 10 Trump supporters and I say, hey, 10 Trump supporters, do you think that Republicans are lying to pollsters because they think it's funny?
00:03:37.580 What would the 10 Trump supporters say?
00:03:40.320 All 10 of them would laugh out loud.
00:03:44.780 You know I'm right.
00:03:46.900 You know they would because they would recognize it to be true.
00:03:51.340 They would instantly know, yeah, they're doing that.
00:03:54.120 That's exactly what they're doing.
00:03:57.580 Maybe, maybe not those 10 people, but I'll bet they know people.
00:04:02.240 I'll bet they know people who are doing it.
00:04:04.860 So I think this lack of a sense of humor has created this immense blind spot for people on the left.
00:04:12.160 They can't tell when Trump is kidding, but worse, they can't tell when the voters are being serious.
00:04:18.540 They can't tell.
00:04:20.080 So it's the perfect prank because the only people who would fall for the prank are the people who are the target.
00:04:30.920 Let's fast forward to Trump winning the election.
00:04:34.260 So that's my prediction.
00:04:36.600 I will allow that should I be wrong, I will take it like a, I'll take it like a man.
00:04:43.440 You know, if it turns out my prediction is wrong, well, then it's just wrong.
00:04:46.840 But I expect it's right, as I always do, always more confident than I should be.
00:04:53.480 And I suppose it's right.
00:04:55.960 Are there any Trump supporters who are going to say, well, that was impossible?
00:05:02.460 No, no.
00:05:03.860 There's not a single Trump supporter who's going to say, well, that was impossible.
00:05:08.480 I don't know how it happened.
00:05:09.880 They all think it's possible because they all think that the polls are wrong.
00:05:15.460 Well, pretty much universally.
00:05:18.260 So poor Democrats are going to have a tough time if it goes that way.
00:05:22.140 So the stock market pulled back quite a bit at the end of the week, especially.
00:05:27.000 Was that predictable?
00:05:29.360 Did you predict that the stock market would have a big pullback the week or so before the election, election day?
00:05:37.280 The election's already going on.
00:05:38.880 But did you predict that?
00:05:41.560 I did.
00:05:42.340 Now, I don't know if it happened because of the following reasons, which were the basis of my prediction.
00:05:49.740 But you decide.
00:05:51.320 Here's why I believed the stocks would pull back.
00:05:54.420 Number one, obviously, Pelosi was going to keep killing the stimulus bills with poison bills,
00:06:00.740 so that the economy would be frightened by not getting these relief packages, essentially.
00:06:11.400 And so since Pelosi had the power to stop that legislation, you knew that that was one reason that the stock market would get skittish, right?
00:06:20.580 So that part, everybody knew about that part.
00:06:23.320 But here's the part that I submit to you was obvious and predictable if you understood how the world works.
00:06:33.260 You know, if you had enough of a talent stack to understand everything from persuasion to politics to business,
00:06:40.780 here's what you would see.
00:06:42.020 The stock market is tied to CEOs predicting how they will do next year.
00:06:51.420 Are you with me?
00:06:52.400 The main driver of the stock market, there are lots of externalities like interest rates and outside shocks.
00:06:59.280 But primarily, despite all those outside things, primarily the stock market works on what the CEOs say will happen next year.
00:07:12.900 Which is, is that a fact?
00:07:16.800 When CEOs say, I think that our earnings next year will be up 10%, is that a fact?
00:07:25.100 No, it is not.
00:07:26.040 It's an opinion.
00:07:28.380 And it's subjective.
00:07:30.880 And it is subject to a wide variety of possible things a CEO could say.
00:07:38.040 And indeed, they could have one opinion and yet express it an infinite number of ways,
00:07:45.300 depending if they wanted you to feel a little bit optimistic or a little bit pessimistic.
00:07:51.060 Am I right?
00:07:52.040 And let's say those CEOs were mostly anti-Trump.
00:07:57.100 Let's say, and I'll just pick one as an example, and this is not an accusation.
00:08:02.260 I'll just use it as an example.
00:08:04.640 Suppose you were the CEO of a major tech company.
00:08:09.660 And let's suppose that you did not like President Trump and did not want him to be re-elected.
00:08:15.000 And suppose you looked at your earnings, and there were two ways that you could describe them.
00:08:19.900 One was really optimistic, and let's say the data supported that.
00:08:24.960 But the other was less optimistic, and let's say the data also supported that, which would not be unusual.
00:08:32.320 Because remember, it's very subjective.
00:08:34.860 It's how much optimism you're going to put on it, what kind of assumptions do you make, etc.
00:08:39.580 So now you're a CEO of a major company, and you don't want Trump to get elected.
00:08:46.100 How do you frame your earnings?
00:08:50.000 You frame them a little bit ambiguously.
00:08:54.040 And you say, we can't tell what's going to happen next year.
00:08:57.860 We'd like it to go well, but so much uncertainty, we certainly can't tell.
00:09:03.580 Now, when the market hears the CEO say that they have uncertainty, what do they do?
00:09:10.080 They sell their damn stocks.
00:09:12.080 Because you don't want to own stocks when there's great uncertainty.
00:09:16.780 Certainty is the best thing you can have, as long as it's a positive certainty, of course.
00:09:21.260 So, all of your CEOs who are reporting earnings in this week before the election,
00:09:30.760 do you think that they chose to describe their earnings in the future,
00:09:38.120 the ones that are subjective, that are an opinion,
00:09:42.280 do you think that they maybe took a little off it?
00:09:45.140 Just pulled back a little bit on the optimism?
00:09:47.340 Because if you don't think they did that, you don't know anything about people.
00:09:52.840 Even if they didn't want to do that,
00:09:55.180 even if they didn't consciously say to themselves,
00:09:58.320 I'm going to go out there and I'm going to try to move the stocks
00:10:01.360 because that'll hurt the president,
00:10:03.100 even if they weren't thinking it,
00:10:06.200 if they were anti-Trump,
00:10:08.460 they knew which answer was the good one for their team, right?
00:10:12.960 So, if you have enough CEOs who have this bias,
00:10:16.240 which is, I don't want to make it look like it's too much good news.
00:10:21.220 Now, normally your CEO would want to say good news,
00:10:24.340 so the stock would go up and they'd look like a star.
00:10:27.120 But keep in mind, they only have to keep this illusion of bad news
00:10:30.880 or ambiguous news or a lack of clarity.
00:10:34.640 They only have to maintain this for about a month
00:10:36.880 just to get past the election
00:10:39.140 and then say, well, I guess we got some new information
00:10:42.420 and it looks like things are better than we thought.
00:10:45.840 Very easy to adjust their assumptions.
00:10:50.920 Very easy to adjust it backwards.
00:10:53.640 So, I predicted that the stock guidance would get a little bit negative
00:10:59.480 and the stock would fall because of uncertainty.
00:11:02.140 But if ever there was a buying opportunity,
00:11:06.420 let me take that back.
00:11:08.480 You should not take any financial advice from cartoonists.
00:11:12.720 And I mean that as seriously as I can say anything.
00:11:17.400 You should not make bets or financial decisions
00:11:21.900 based on what I say.
00:11:24.300 You really shouldn't.
00:11:25.740 And I'm being very serious about this.
00:11:27.920 You shouldn't.
00:11:28.420 That said, this has all of the earmarks of an artificial pullback.
00:11:36.220 And if you were going to buy stock,
00:11:39.080 you would want to look for artificial pullbacks
00:11:41.880 because those are the ones that won't last.
00:11:44.860 If I had to guess on this one,
00:11:47.060 this looks about as artificial as a pullback it could possibly look
00:11:50.860 because it seems just related to the headlines,
00:11:53.740 which means it probably is not something deep.
00:11:57.980 We'll see.
00:12:03.160 Why is it that Trump never mentions nuclear power?
00:12:06.820 Have you noticed that?
00:12:09.180 Whenever Trump is talking about the Green New Deal
00:12:13.000 and how Biden wants to replace fossil fuels and everything,
00:12:19.000 he doesn't mention nuclear.
00:12:20.920 But yet the administration is quite pro-nuclear.
00:12:23.860 So if you look at the Department of Energy
00:12:26.300 and you look at what the government's doing
00:12:28.240 and what they're funding,
00:12:29.900 what they're putting their money behind,
00:12:31.980 they're definitely very pro-nuclear.
00:12:34.600 But Trump himself,
00:12:36.260 he just doesn't even use the word.
00:12:38.700 He doesn't even throw it in the list
00:12:40.500 of good things that are happening.
00:12:43.040 And I'm a little bit curious about that.
00:12:45.040 Now, I think it's probably completely political,
00:12:50.620 meaning that you don't get any new voters
00:12:53.680 because you say nuclear, I'm just guessing,
00:12:56.220 but maybe you would lose voters if you say nuclear.
00:12:59.260 So it could be that there's no good political way
00:13:02.540 to talk about it.
00:13:03.760 It might be that.
00:13:04.480 It could be because Trump himself
00:13:07.680 is not completely sold
00:13:09.900 as much as members of his administration.
00:13:13.040 It could be that.
00:13:14.040 I don't know.
00:13:14.980 But I think he needs to get over that.
00:13:17.520 I think I'd like to see the president
00:13:19.140 talk about nuclear,
00:13:20.940 even if he doesn't like it.
00:13:22.880 I feel like we need some transparency there
00:13:25.060 to get his opinion on that.
00:13:27.120 And it's so conspicuously missing.
00:13:30.320 Now, let me see.
00:13:31.020 If I told you that this happened,
00:13:34.160 would you believe it?
00:13:35.880 If I told you that Joe Biden ran a campaign ad
00:13:39.340 in which he implied that Jews in America
00:13:44.040 were associated with Hitler,
00:13:48.300 would you believe that happened?
00:13:49.720 Not associated with, but let's say compared to.
00:13:53.560 Would you believe, if I told you that, hypothetically,
00:13:57.100 would you believe that Joe Biden ran a campaign ad
00:13:59.800 comparing conservative, Trump-supporting Jews
00:14:04.780 in America to Hitler?
00:14:07.540 Would you think that actually happened?
00:14:10.620 That actually happened.
00:14:12.960 Now, in the ad, he didn't call out
00:14:15.320 any particular group except Trump supporters
00:14:18.600 by implication.
00:14:21.180 So the ad essentially accused President Trump
00:14:24.820 of being heading in the direction of Hitler.
00:14:27.580 So the ad compares Trump to Hitler.
00:14:32.040 What does that compare his supporters to?
00:14:36.000 Well, automatically, if you're saying
00:14:38.120 that you support a Hitler,
00:14:39.740 you're kind of a Nazi by definition or association.
00:14:45.240 In all practical ways,
00:14:46.940 if you support a Hitler character,
00:14:49.440 you're either a Nazi or you like one,
00:14:51.940 similar to one.
00:14:52.900 So the Biden ad quite clearly
00:14:56.320 is meant to compare Trump supporters
00:14:59.080 to Nazis, actual Nazis,
00:15:03.020 with a picture of Hitler.
00:15:05.600 Now, this comes only days after
00:15:08.580 a gigantic pro-Trump rally
00:15:12.960 by Jewish Americans.
00:15:15.060 So Jewish Americans are having a big rally
00:15:18.860 in favor of Trump.
00:15:20.120 And of course, Israel loves Trump, etc.
00:15:23.300 And Biden is comparing Trump supporters
00:15:26.160 to Nazis.
00:15:29.600 Connect the dots.
00:15:31.860 This actually happened in America in 2020
00:15:34.520 that Biden compared American Jews to Nazis.
00:15:39.160 Now, not directly.
00:15:41.680 It's only by the, you know,
00:15:42.980 the associations that I've set up.
00:15:45.460 If Trump's a Nazi,
00:15:47.280 or, yeah, if Trump's a Hitler,
00:15:48.980 his supporters must be Nazis.
00:15:50.720 And we just saw that there are a whole lot
00:15:52.380 of supporters who are Jewish.
00:15:54.520 So doesn't that make them Nazis,
00:15:57.700 according to Joe Biden?
00:15:59.920 That's pretty rugged, Joe.
00:16:02.200 You need to answer to that.
00:16:03.460 So here's the story that nobody cares about,
00:16:07.920 even though it's the biggest story in the world.
00:16:09.740 The FBI has active criminal investigation
00:16:12.160 into the Biden family and their business.
00:16:16.900 And the charge they're looking into
00:16:19.080 is money laundering.
00:16:20.940 What?
00:16:22.740 So since 2019,
00:16:24.620 the FBI has been looking into the Biden family
00:16:27.040 on some kind of charge.
00:16:29.340 We don't know the basis for it,
00:16:31.940 but money laundering.
00:16:33.460 Now, I'm guessing it has to do
00:16:35.900 with either Ukraine or China or both.
00:16:39.180 And how will we treat that?
00:16:41.980 Will we treat that
00:16:43.620 like it's the biggest story in the country?
00:16:47.100 Because it is.
00:16:49.100 Or will the press disappear it?
00:16:54.720 The Trump, the press disappeared it.
00:16:58.360 They're treating it like it doesn't matter.
00:17:00.880 Like it's not really there.
00:17:02.040 And watching this is just mind-boggling.
00:17:06.380 And you know what weird, weird thought I had?
00:17:09.280 Are you ready for the full simulation?
00:17:12.040 All right.
00:17:12.320 When I say this,
00:17:14.000 you're probably going to laugh
00:17:16.180 because it's too on the nose.
00:17:18.480 So the FBI has this information about Hunter Biden
00:17:23.520 and the Biden family,
00:17:24.820 but we don't know the details,
00:17:26.640 and it's a few days before the election.
00:17:29.160 Do you know who we need?
00:17:31.640 James Comey.
00:17:33.320 We need James Comey
00:17:34.920 to make a public announcement
00:17:37.060 that the Biden family is being looked into
00:17:40.440 for money laundering
00:17:43.120 because that is just like
00:17:45.280 Hillary's emails in 2016.
00:17:48.000 The fact that there's no James Comey
00:17:50.420 is the reason that
00:17:52.420 the news gets to just ignore it
00:17:55.000 because if the FBI
00:17:56.780 did a press conference
00:17:59.860 and said,
00:18:00.440 hey,
00:18:00.940 the election's coming
00:18:02.400 and I just want you to have
00:18:04.260 all the information,
00:18:05.780 which is what Comey did, right?
00:18:07.880 When Comey talked about Hillary's emails,
00:18:10.960 he didn't say she's guilty of something.
00:18:13.560 He simply said,
00:18:14.860 as voters,
00:18:15.780 you deserve to have all the information.
00:18:18.160 I'll just tell you what we know,
00:18:20.200 that we're looking into something.
00:18:21.420 All right?
00:18:22.920 Now,
00:18:23.640 don't you think
00:18:24.660 that we need a James Comey
00:18:28.620 to do the same thing
00:18:29.620 with the Hunter Biden stuff?
00:18:31.320 Same message.
00:18:32.820 There are no charges
00:18:34.720 against any of the Bidens.
00:18:36.320 We want you to know
00:18:37.240 there are no charges.
00:18:40.000 We are, however,
00:18:41.380 looking into this issue
00:18:42.740 and we just think
00:18:44.160 the public needs to know
00:18:45.460 before you vote.
00:18:47.560 Why not?
00:18:49.080 Now, of course,
00:18:49.640 that's not going to happen.
00:18:51.420 I see somebody prompting me
00:18:53.820 that ABC News
00:18:54.920 did run a story on it this week,
00:18:56.880 which was unusual enough
00:18:59.820 that people were tweeting
00:19:01.720 about the fact
00:19:03.000 that a major news organization
00:19:04.800 ran a story.
00:19:06.320 Now, it wasn't much of a story,
00:19:08.200 but they covered it
00:19:09.420 and it really stood out
00:19:12.420 because it hadn't been ignored.
00:19:16.860 All right,
00:19:17.660 so we need James Comey
00:19:19.100 to fix things here.
00:19:20.680 Here's what else we need.
00:19:23.180 Have you ever seen
00:19:23.860 Elon Musk's company
00:19:26.280 that makes this big machine
00:19:27.580 that bores tunnels?
00:19:29.340 It's actually called
00:19:30.320 The Boring Company,
00:19:31.620 which is funny.
00:19:32.720 So it's a giant
00:19:34.320 earth-moving truck device
00:19:38.000 that has a big drill
00:19:39.580 on the front
00:19:40.260 and somehow is optimized
00:19:41.500 for drilling tunnels.
00:19:43.460 So we have one of those.
00:19:45.280 All right,
00:19:45.480 so that's the first thing
00:19:46.360 you need to know
00:19:46.880 before I get to my actual idea.
00:19:49.480 Second,
00:19:50.000 I used to work on a farm,
00:19:51.440 a dairy farm,
00:19:52.240 and part of my job
00:19:53.240 was to bring in the hay.
00:19:57.440 So there would be
00:19:58.240 this big device
00:19:59.780 that a tractor would pull
00:20:01.400 and it would cut the hay
00:20:03.020 and it would wrap it
00:20:04.240 into hay bales
00:20:05.060 and wrap a twine around it
00:20:07.000 and then toss it
00:20:07.800 into the back of a wagon.
00:20:09.000 And I would be in the back
00:20:10.700 of the wagon
00:20:11.160 usually with my brother
00:20:12.260 and the hay bale
00:20:13.720 would come flying over
00:20:14.780 and then we would have
00:20:15.700 to stack it neatly
00:20:17.280 so more of them
00:20:18.640 would fit in the back
00:20:19.520 and then unload them.
00:20:22.100 All right,
00:20:22.360 so you've got a giant machine
00:20:24.080 that can bore tunnels.
00:20:26.020 We've got a giant machine
00:20:27.280 that can turn grass
00:20:28.860 into hay bales
00:20:30.220 and even tie them up
00:20:31.660 and stuff.
00:20:32.780 Can we not make a giant machine
00:20:36.200 that builds border wall?
00:20:40.080 Huh?
00:20:41.180 Because if you've seen
00:20:42.260 the border wall,
00:20:43.340 it appears that there are,
00:20:44.600 you know,
00:20:44.900 big segments
00:20:46.280 that are dropped
00:20:47.900 into concrete
00:20:48.680 and I don't know
00:20:51.160 that there's much else to it.
00:20:52.880 So you need a trench,
00:20:55.200 you need concrete,
00:20:56.320 and you need the fence parts
00:20:59.280 stuck into it.
00:21:01.180 Can we not,
00:21:02.700 just asking the question,
00:21:03.920 can we not build
00:21:05.560 a gigantic machine
00:21:07.060 that just drives down
00:21:09.720 the border
00:21:10.140 going chunk, chunk, chunk,
00:21:11.300 chunk, chunk, chunk, chunk,
00:21:11.920 chunk, and dropping fence
00:21:14.300 and concrete as it goes?
00:21:16.240 You know,
00:21:16.440 digging the tunnel,
00:21:17.760 dropping the concrete,
00:21:19.760 dropping the fence,
00:21:20.780 and then just going
00:21:21.500 to the next part
00:21:22.260 and dropping another segment.
00:21:23.880 Could we not do that?
00:21:25.620 Not possible.
00:21:27.400 Somebody's telling me
00:21:28.180 that the ABC story
00:21:29.380 was from 2019.
00:21:31.460 Is that true?
00:21:32.320 That would be funny
00:21:33.600 if it's true.
00:21:34.860 Here we were giving ABC credit,
00:21:36.880 but somebody's saying
00:21:38.560 it was a 2019 story.
00:21:40.940 That might be true.
00:21:42.100 I don't know.
00:21:42.540 Fact check that for me.
00:21:44.440 So let's get a big
00:21:45.300 wall building machine.
00:21:48.580 And I think the fiction
00:21:50.060 is starting to fall away.
00:21:52.620 All Trump was doing
00:21:53.840 was replacing existing wall.
00:21:56.420 Now I think it's technically true
00:21:58.480 that the funding
00:21:59.900 and the efforts right now
00:22:01.100 are where there is
00:22:02.240 existing wall
00:22:03.140 and they're upgrading it.
00:22:04.760 But where they're upgrading it
00:22:06.220 is because the wall
00:22:07.180 was so inadequate
00:22:08.460 it was basically
00:22:09.380 not a wall at all.
00:22:11.120 So I think that,
00:22:12.060 I think the president
00:22:12.920 is completely
00:22:13.860 within his rights
00:22:16.080 to say this is new wall.
00:22:18.060 Because the old wall
00:22:19.100 was so un-wall-like
00:22:20.520 and useless
00:22:21.100 that it was basically
00:22:22.160 no wall.
00:22:23.300 And the only reason
00:22:24.020 that the old wall
00:22:24.760 was there
00:22:25.120 is that it was
00:22:25.640 an important place
00:22:26.400 to have a wall.
00:22:26.900 All right, so
00:22:28.560 we've seen
00:22:29.560 the following pattern lately.
00:22:31.180 You saw Kanye
00:22:31.980 liking President Trump,
00:22:34.100 Ice Cube
00:22:34.780 willing to talk
00:22:35.640 to the Trump administration.
00:22:37.700 You saw 50 Cent
00:22:39.140 saying some positive things
00:22:40.560 about Trump
00:22:41.120 before some negative things.
00:22:43.220 And now I guess
00:22:43.780 Lil Wayne
00:22:44.320 has met President Trump
00:22:45.900 and endorses him.
00:22:47.800 Now,
00:22:49.040 as I've said many times,
00:22:50.900 our brains
00:22:51.520 are pattern recognition machines.
00:22:54.680 That's basically
00:22:55.500 what they are.
00:22:56.900 That's all they are.
00:22:58.500 Our brain
00:22:58.960 just recognizes patterns.
00:23:00.960 And it's not good at it,
00:23:03.920 which is the other part.
00:23:05.260 The reason that
00:23:05.960 there are things
00:23:06.540 like bias
00:23:07.240 and discrimination
00:23:08.740 and racism
00:23:09.780 and all these things
00:23:10.680 are because
00:23:11.700 our brains
00:23:12.340 are pattern recognition machines,
00:23:14.180 but they're not good.
00:23:15.540 They don't work very well.
00:23:17.240 We see patterns
00:23:18.120 that are not real patterns.
00:23:19.560 We believe we see patterns
00:23:20.980 when there are no patterns.
00:23:22.660 But we can't turn off
00:23:24.000 our pattern recognizing
00:23:25.220 function
00:23:26.560 because that's the basis
00:23:27.740 of our intelligence
00:23:29.240 is recognizing patterns.
00:23:31.400 So now you have these
00:23:32.560 four famous
00:23:33.900 black male
00:23:35.240 rapper types.
00:23:37.280 I guess they'll be called
00:23:38.300 rappers or,
00:23:40.120 you know,
00:23:40.640 obviously
00:23:41.160 Kanye is much more
00:23:43.220 than that.
00:23:43.820 50 Cent is much more
00:23:44.820 than that.
00:23:45.260 Ice Cube is much more
00:23:46.160 than that,
00:23:47.020 actually.
00:23:47.640 They all have
00:23:48.160 multiple career paths.
00:23:49.760 But your pattern recognition
00:23:53.000 part of your brain,
00:23:55.080 what's it do
00:23:55.880 when you hear
00:23:56.820 that all four
00:23:57.640 of these
00:23:58.220 famous black
00:24:00.540 musical
00:24:01.820 plus other
00:24:02.900 successes,
00:24:05.060 what do you do
00:24:06.380 when you hear
00:24:06.900 that they're all
00:24:07.920 somewhat
00:24:09.220 okay with Trump?
00:24:12.040 It makes a difference.
00:24:14.300 It makes a difference.
00:24:15.620 because you can't
00:24:17.840 unsee this pattern.
00:24:19.620 If it had only been
00:24:20.940 Kanye,
00:24:21.940 your brain would say
00:24:23.620 that's not a pattern,
00:24:24.680 that's one point.
00:24:26.340 And Kanye's
00:24:27.040 Kanye.
00:24:28.380 So Kanye
00:24:29.000 breaks so many norms
00:24:30.440 that it doesn't
00:24:31.840 really seem like
00:24:32.460 a pattern.
00:24:33.920 But then,
00:24:34.600 but then you get
00:24:35.860 50 Cent
00:24:37.180 in the mix.
00:24:38.780 But then you say
00:24:39.700 to yourself,
00:24:40.240 oh,
00:24:40.540 okay,
00:24:40.900 remember,
00:24:41.720 Kanye is the exception,
00:24:42.760 so really
00:24:44.180 it's just
00:24:44.620 50 Cent
00:24:45.320 and he didn't
00:24:46.740 necessarily say
00:24:47.500 he loves Trump,
00:24:48.480 he just dislikes
00:24:49.800 Biden's tax plans,
00:24:52.180 so that's not
00:24:53.520 exactly a pattern.
00:24:54.920 That's two things
00:24:56.360 that have something
00:24:57.060 in common.
00:24:58.540 But then you throw
00:24:59.440 in Ice Cube.
00:25:01.180 And again,
00:25:01.840 Ice Cube's not
00:25:02.560 pro-Trump.
00:25:04.000 He's just willing
00:25:04.780 to talk to them
00:25:05.640 and acknowledges
00:25:06.600 that they did
00:25:07.140 some things
00:25:07.620 for the black community.
00:25:09.300 But now you say
00:25:10.220 to yourself,
00:25:10.720 okay,
00:25:11.940 it's still
00:25:12.580 three different people,
00:25:13.980 three individuals
00:25:14.740 doing three things
00:25:16.640 for their own purposes,
00:25:18.480 but it sure feels
00:25:19.640 like a pattern,
00:25:20.380 doesn't it?
00:25:21.680 It's not really
00:25:22.960 a pattern,
00:25:24.120 but it feels like it.
00:25:25.940 And then you throw
00:25:26.760 Lil Wayne on there
00:25:27.760 and you're just done.
00:25:29.100 Your brain is done.
00:25:30.540 At this point,
00:25:31.320 you could tell yourself
00:25:32.260 this isn't a pattern,
00:25:33.920 but it's a frickin' pattern.
00:25:35.960 Right?
00:25:36.880 And again,
00:25:38.100 it's four people
00:25:39.040 doing things
00:25:39.800 for their own reasons.
00:25:40.900 It's probably
00:25:43.060 our racism
00:25:44.080 that even puts them
00:25:45.180 in the same category.
00:25:46.780 Right?
00:25:48.140 If we're being honest,
00:25:49.420 it's only a little bit
00:25:50.440 of racism
00:25:51.080 that says,
00:25:52.300 oh,
00:25:52.480 all these four people
00:25:53.500 have something in common
00:25:54.500 aside from music.
00:25:56.840 They're black.
00:25:58.360 So your racism
00:25:59.500 says it's a pattern
00:26:00.520 and then you see it
00:26:01.380 and then you make
00:26:02.000 a lot more of it
00:26:02.860 than it really is,
00:26:03.860 but I think
00:26:04.480 that that would be
00:26:05.320 affecting the black population
00:26:07.400 as well as
00:26:08.260 everybody else
00:26:08.980 who's looking at it.
00:26:09.780 I think it matters.
00:26:12.460 I think that fourth rapper,
00:26:14.780 you know,
00:26:14.980 the addition of Lil Wayne
00:26:16.160 takes it from
00:26:17.700 I think I'm sort of
00:26:18.900 almost seeing a pattern
00:26:20.020 to,
00:26:21.100 oh,
00:26:21.200 there's a pattern.
00:26:22.240 Even if there isn't,
00:26:23.740 you're now convinced
00:26:24.560 there is.
00:26:25.580 Okay.
00:26:27.760 Look at all the things
00:26:28.840 we don't know
00:26:29.640 about coronavirus.
00:26:31.140 Look at all the things
00:26:31.800 we don't know
00:26:32.260 about life,
00:26:32.900 really.
00:26:33.680 But let me just run you
00:26:35.260 through the things
00:26:35.940 that we don't know,
00:26:36.940 which is astonishing.
00:26:39.700 All right.
00:26:40.740 Number one,
00:26:41.500 I saw there was some
00:26:42.800 pullback on Regeneron.
00:26:45.580 So that's the drug
00:26:46.620 that the president
00:26:47.280 was touting
00:26:48.260 that he thinks
00:26:49.080 helped them a lot.
00:26:50.260 But apparently
00:26:51.040 Regeneron is not
00:26:52.320 giving the results
00:26:54.340 that they want
00:26:55.080 if you're
00:26:55.680 in a late stage
00:26:57.220 of disease.
00:26:58.320 So I think
00:26:59.000 they stopped
00:26:59.600 testing it
00:27:00.460 on people
00:27:00.940 who were at
00:27:01.540 the ventilator stage
00:27:02.980 because it was
00:27:04.000 maybe hurting them
00:27:04.940 more than it was helping.
00:27:05.760 Or at least
00:27:06.320 there was an indication
00:27:07.160 it might.
00:27:08.400 So Regeneron
00:27:09.180 is not quite
00:27:10.680 the magic pill
00:27:11.720 that you thought it was
00:27:12.700 because it might
00:27:13.900 only work well
00:27:14.800 if you get it early.
00:27:17.240 Remdesivir
00:27:17.720 went from
00:27:18.680 hey,
00:27:19.500 this is great
00:27:20.180 to at the moment
00:27:21.960 the tests
00:27:23.520 are kind of
00:27:24.200 weak on remdesivir,
00:27:25.480 right?
00:27:26.040 So we thought it worked
00:27:27.300 but now we think
00:27:28.200 maybe it doesn't
00:27:29.020 based on
00:27:29.600 some
00:27:30.500 clinical trials.
00:27:32.540 What about
00:27:32.900 hydroxychloroquine?
00:27:34.080 If you look
00:27:36.340 at the news
00:27:37.200 on the left
00:27:37.760 and the tweets
00:27:38.360 on the left
00:27:38.960 they will say
00:27:40.320 it has been proven
00:27:41.360 not to be effective.
00:27:44.040 But all you have
00:27:45.320 to do is get
00:27:45.800 on Twitter
00:27:46.220 and there will be
00:27:47.080 people tweeting
00:27:47.860 all kinds of studies
00:27:49.040 usually retrospective
00:27:51.540 but some of them
00:27:52.200 even clinical trials
00:27:54.280 which purport
00:27:55.680 that it works
00:27:56.760 just great.
00:27:59.020 Now both of these
00:27:59.980 bits of data
00:28:01.360 which are opposites
00:28:02.420 they can't both
00:28:03.220 be true
00:28:03.880 but they are reported
00:28:05.320 with equal vigor.
00:28:07.480 There's as much
00:28:08.280 energy around
00:28:09.420 saying
00:28:09.840 hydroxychloroquine
00:28:11.320 clearly works
00:28:12.720 and all the information
00:28:13.740 is supporting it
00:28:15.020 as there is
00:28:16.240 people saying
00:28:16.940 it's been studied
00:28:17.740 to death
00:28:18.200 and there's no
00:28:18.760 impact whatsoever.
00:28:20.860 Both those
00:28:21.680 truths
00:28:22.260 are existing
00:28:23.840 in full force
00:28:25.060 and they
00:28:25.880 can't both
00:28:26.580 be true.
00:28:27.560 They just
00:28:27.920 can't be.
00:28:28.320 Now I'm of the opinion
00:28:30.540 that if it were
00:28:32.420 a big deal
00:28:33.100 we would have
00:28:33.840 noticed it
00:28:34.640 meaning it would
00:28:35.580 just be so obvious
00:28:36.820 that you wouldn't
00:28:38.440 even need
00:28:38.860 a clinical trial
00:28:39.780 if it were
00:28:40.720 as effective
00:28:41.320 as its initial
00:28:42.580 proponent said.
00:28:43.860 I don't know
00:28:44.500 if it has
00:28:44.960 no impact
00:28:47.380 I just don't
00:28:48.720 think it has
00:28:49.360 some kind of
00:28:50.160 a magic pill
00:28:51.640 impact.
00:28:53.440 So we don't know
00:28:54.460 about hydroxychloroquine
00:28:55.740 we still don't
00:28:57.380 know vitamin D
00:28:58.420 we know it's
00:28:59.300 good for you
00:28:59.920 but we don't
00:29:00.440 know how much
00:29:01.100 of a difference
00:29:01.580 that's making
00:29:02.200 and we're still
00:29:03.500 arguing about
00:29:04.280 whether masks
00:29:05.720 work.
00:29:07.460 So yesterday
00:29:08.100 I was tweeting
00:29:08.940 about somebody
00:29:09.760 you've seen
00:29:11.060 a bunch of
00:29:11.480 these
00:29:11.660 somebody will
00:29:12.720 show a bunch
00:29:13.200 of graphs
00:29:13.800 of coronavirus
00:29:15.060 infections
00:29:15.900 by state
00:29:17.080 or country
00:29:17.720 or whatever
00:29:18.220 and they'll
00:29:19.260 say here's
00:29:20.000 the point
00:29:20.460 that masks
00:29:21.300 were mandatory
00:29:22.040 and you can
00:29:23.460 see that
00:29:23.980 after the masks
00:29:25.280 were mandatory
00:29:26.020 the infections
00:29:27.240 went way up
00:29:28.220 and then they
00:29:29.360 sort of
00:29:29.860 started trailing
00:29:30.700 off on their
00:29:31.520 own for reasons
00:29:32.520 that nobody
00:29:33.480 couldn't understand.
00:29:35.180 Now let me
00:29:36.540 draw you the
00:29:37.880 picture in your
00:29:38.500 mind.
00:29:39.440 So you're
00:29:39.700 looking at a
00:29:40.160 graph that's
00:29:40.840 mostly slightly
00:29:42.620 rising
00:29:43.180 it's closer
00:29:44.180 to flat
00:29:44.780 but it's
00:29:45.220 slightly rising
00:29:46.020 and then
00:29:46.840 suddenly it
00:29:47.400 zooms up
00:29:48.040 to a mountain
00:29:48.900 and then the
00:29:50.140 mountain crests
00:29:51.060 and it goes
00:29:51.440 back down
00:29:52.040 so that's
00:29:52.460 what a surge
00:29:53.940 of coronavirus
00:29:54.980 would look
00:29:55.540 like in a
00:29:55.980 graph.
00:29:56.860 Now imagine
00:29:57.300 on the graph
00:29:57.900 that at the
00:29:58.500 base of the
00:29:59.240 mountain part
00:30:00.020 it's labeled
00:30:01.300 masks become
00:30:02.920 mandatory
00:30:03.360 and it takes
00:30:04.900 about a month
00:30:05.660 to get to
00:30:06.720 the top
00:30:07.160 of that peak
00:30:07.920 before it
00:30:09.380 trails off.
00:30:10.800 What would
00:30:11.460 be your
00:30:11.900 conclusion
00:30:12.560 if somebody
00:30:13.520 showed you
00:30:14.040 a bunch
00:30:14.420 of graphs
00:30:15.020 where every
00:30:16.160 time the
00:30:16.640 masks are
00:30:17.360 mandatory
00:30:17.940 the infections
00:30:20.280 still get
00:30:21.060 way way worse
00:30:21.960 after the
00:30:22.980 masks are
00:30:23.660 mandatory?
00:30:24.480 How would
00:30:25.060 you interpret
00:30:25.840 those graphs
00:30:27.380 given that
00:30:28.340 there's a
00:30:28.680 bunch of
00:30:29.120 them?
00:30:29.520 A whole
00:30:29.800 bunch of
00:30:30.240 them?
00:30:31.520 What would
00:30:32.140 you say?
00:30:32.820 Would you
00:30:33.200 say masks
00:30:34.900 don't work
00:30:35.780 because every
00:30:37.440 time you have
00:30:38.140 them as
00:30:38.580 mandatory you
00:30:39.920 can see on
00:30:40.460 the graph that
00:30:41.060 the infections
00:30:41.680 go out of
00:30:42.440 control higher
00:30:43.460 therefore they
00:30:44.800 don't work
00:30:45.260 right?
00:30:45.840 Because that's
00:30:46.340 what the
00:30:46.840 people tweeting
00:30:48.120 those graphs
00:30:48.780 are telling
00:30:49.220 you.
00:30:49.860 They're telling
00:30:50.360 you look at
00:30:50.840 the graph.
00:30:51.960 It's just as
00:30:52.960 plain as the
00:30:53.640 nose on your
00:30:54.200 face that's
00:30:54.800 covered by a
00:30:55.400 mask.
00:30:56.460 It's there's
00:30:58.400 the mask.
00:30:59.660 They're
00:31:00.140 required and
00:31:01.340 then the
00:31:01.640 infections go
00:31:02.420 through the
00:31:02.820 roof.
00:31:03.620 Clearly masks
00:31:04.480 don't work
00:31:05.180 right?
00:31:06.800 And I look
00:31:07.600 at these same
00:31:08.160 graphs and I
00:31:08.840 say that's
00:31:11.660 not what I
00:31:12.160 see.
00:31:13.120 I'm looking
00:31:13.800 at the same
00:31:14.300 graph you're
00:31:14.880 looking at and
00:31:16.200 I'm seeing
00:31:16.680 proof that
00:31:17.280 masks work.
00:31:19.260 Same graph.
00:31:20.140 exactly what I
00:31:21.520 just described
00:31:22.200 to you.
00:31:23.540 Why?
00:31:24.880 Timing.
00:31:26.060 How long
00:31:26.540 does it take
00:31:27.480 for mandatory
00:31:28.980 mask wearing
00:31:29.940 to work itself
00:31:30.860 through the
00:31:31.260 system?
00:31:32.080 Remember you've
00:31:32.940 got some
00:31:33.340 reporting delays
00:31:34.440 and these
00:31:35.740 delays could be
00:31:36.720 a few weeks.
00:31:38.360 So it could be
00:31:39.120 that the day
00:31:39.860 the masks are
00:31:40.740 required you
00:31:42.420 still got a
00:31:43.020 bunch of
00:31:43.400 infections that
00:31:44.180 have not yet
00:31:44.720 been reported
00:31:45.420 and they're
00:31:46.440 going to come
00:31:46.920 in after the
00:31:48.080 masks.
00:31:48.580 So you're
00:31:49.500 going to be
00:31:49.760 reporting a
00:31:50.420 whole bunch
00:31:50.760 of infections
00:31:51.420 that may
00:31:51.940 have been
00:31:52.460 last week's
00:31:53.700 infections.
00:31:55.340 Secondly,
00:31:56.240 do people
00:31:57.120 immediately
00:31:58.240 wear the
00:31:59.960 right kind
00:32:00.500 of masks
00:32:01.260 and do it
00:32:02.460 universally the
00:32:03.500 same day that
00:32:04.260 you put a
00:32:04.820 mask requirement
00:32:06.600 in place?
00:32:08.160 No.
00:32:09.400 No, right?
00:32:11.460 People are not
00:32:12.460 instantly complying.
00:32:14.340 There's probably
00:32:14.780 a little bit of
00:32:15.380 a time lag
00:32:16.240 before people
00:32:17.000 get the
00:32:17.980 better kind
00:32:18.580 of masks.
00:32:19.900 Maybe they
00:32:20.380 start out
00:32:20.920 with a bad
00:32:23.080 kind of
00:32:23.580 facial covering
00:32:24.540 but then they
00:32:25.140 buy one and
00:32:25.920 now they've
00:32:26.340 got a better
00:32:26.800 mask.
00:32:27.740 So you'd
00:32:28.220 expect that
00:32:28.860 the effectiveness
00:32:29.620 would be a
00:32:30.360 week or two
00:32:30.920 before you're
00:32:32.080 really all
00:32:32.540 masked up,
00:32:33.240 right?
00:32:33.820 Wouldn't you?
00:32:34.880 Then what about
00:32:35.560 the people who
00:32:36.820 are infected
00:32:37.460 and they don't
00:32:39.000 know it yet?
00:32:40.200 So they got
00:32:40.960 the virus
00:32:41.160 yesterday but
00:32:45.000 the mask
00:32:45.520 requirement
00:32:46.060 goes in
00:32:46.600 today.
00:32:47.800 A week
00:32:48.340 from now
00:32:48.880 we realize
00:32:49.940 that they
00:32:50.300 were really
00:32:50.760 sick but
00:32:51.320 we just
00:32:51.660 didn't know
00:32:52.060 it.
00:32:53.360 Where does
00:32:53.880 the infection
00:32:54.520 get recorded?
00:32:55.400 It gets
00:32:55.640 recorded at
00:32:56.300 the point
00:32:56.640 where you
00:32:56.960 discover it,
00:32:58.000 right?
00:32:58.660 So it's
00:32:59.260 going to
00:32:59.520 look like
00:32:59.960 that infection
00:33:00.660 came after
00:33:01.480 the mask
00:33:02.100 but in
00:33:03.000 fact it
00:33:03.700 started before
00:33:04.420 the mask.
00:33:05.860 So here's
00:33:06.860 my larger
00:33:07.380 point.
00:33:08.460 Can I look
00:33:09.920 at those
00:33:10.340 graphs and
00:33:11.160 then conclude
00:33:12.460 that masks
00:33:13.280 work?
00:33:13.920 because there's
00:33:15.220 a little bit
00:33:15.620 of a time
00:33:16.060 lag but in
00:33:16.820 every case
00:33:17.620 on those
00:33:20.020 graphs the
00:33:21.180 infections would
00:33:22.140 reach a peak
00:33:23.200 and then trail
00:33:23.920 off very
00:33:24.420 quickly.
00:33:25.680 To me
00:33:26.280 that's a
00:33:26.860 picture of
00:33:27.360 masks working
00:33:28.300 perfectly.
00:33:29.520 Just the way
00:33:30.380 I would have
00:33:30.900 expected them
00:33:31.740 to work.
00:33:32.660 I would not
00:33:33.340 expect them
00:33:33.900 to work on
00:33:34.500 the day of
00:33:35.020 implementation.
00:33:36.500 I would
00:33:36.820 expect to
00:33:37.400 see the
00:33:37.900 effect maybe
00:33:39.500 three weeks
00:33:40.140 later which
00:33:41.540 is about what
00:33:42.200 the graphs
00:33:42.780 show.
00:33:43.920 Now is
00:33:45.400 my
00:33:45.640 interpretation
00:33:46.260 accurate that
00:33:47.860 these graphs
00:33:49.060 that people
00:33:49.600 are using to
00:33:50.260 show that
00:33:50.680 masks definitely
00:33:52.020 don't work
00:33:52.960 is my
00:33:54.040 interpretation
00:33:54.480 correct that
00:33:55.820 those same
00:33:56.360 graphs are
00:33:56.960 proving that
00:33:57.640 they do
00:33:58.040 work?
00:33:59.100 Which one
00:33:59.640 of us is
00:34:00.040 correct?
00:34:01.000 Do you
00:34:01.380 know?
00:34:02.220 Before I
00:34:02.840 started talking
00:34:03.480 about this did
00:34:04.200 you say to
00:34:04.620 yourself well
00:34:05.160 obviously if
00:34:05.900 infections go
00:34:06.740 up like
00:34:07.700 crazy after
00:34:08.680 masks obviously
00:34:10.500 they don't
00:34:11.060 work.
00:34:11.420 did you
00:34:12.480 think that
00:34:12.960 before I
00:34:13.520 started talking?
00:34:14.980 Now I'm
00:34:15.800 not going to
00:34:16.100 make a claim
00:34:16.680 that my
00:34:17.240 interpretation
00:34:17.700 is correct
00:34:18.800 because if
00:34:24.140 you know how
00:34:24.720 to analyze
00:34:25.220 data you
00:34:26.220 should be
00:34:26.580 asking yourself
00:34:27.340 this where
00:34:28.720 is my
00:34:29.140 comparison to
00:34:30.440 that same
00:34:31.180 city or
00:34:32.040 state that
00:34:33.720 had the
00:34:34.880 same problem
00:34:35.520 and then they
00:34:36.760 did not have
00:34:37.540 masks.
00:34:38.100 right?
00:34:40.000 Because you
00:34:40.300 would have to
00:34:40.660 compare place
00:34:41.520 to place.
00:34:42.180 It would have
00:34:42.380 to be the
00:34:42.700 same place
00:34:43.320 to the same
00:34:44.180 place otherwise
00:34:44.840 you're not
00:34:45.360 really comparing.
00:34:48.200 So the real
00:34:49.060 answer is we
00:34:49.720 can't tell from
00:34:50.360 those graphs.
00:34:51.600 Those graphs
00:34:52.380 don't tell you
00:34:53.220 masks work and
00:34:54.780 they don't tell
00:34:55.460 you that masks
00:34:56.140 don't work.
00:34:57.300 They don't tell
00:34:57.840 you anything
00:34:58.280 because we're
00:34:59.480 really really bad
00:35:00.480 at gathering
00:35:01.560 data which
00:35:02.960 and there are
00:35:04.160 other folks on
00:35:04.820 the internet
00:35:05.520 I'm still
00:35:07.640 having conversations
00:35:08.500 with them but
00:35:09.480 there's some
00:35:10.000 thought that
00:35:10.980 even the
00:35:11.580 current number
00:35:12.200 of infections
00:35:12.840 and deaths
00:35:13.480 may be lagged
00:35:14.900 by as much
00:35:15.900 as months.
00:35:17.300 So we don't
00:35:18.160 have data we
00:35:19.260 can rely on
00:35:20.080 in any way
00:35:21.100 about any of
00:35:22.220 this stuff.
00:35:22.720 It's just
00:35:22.980 useless and
00:35:24.440 thinking it's
00:35:25.200 useful is kind
00:35:26.120 of dangerous.
00:35:27.720 All right.
00:35:28.760 I asked on
00:35:29.900 Twitter, I
00:35:31.260 asked how many
00:35:31.980 people have
00:35:32.560 experienced fewer
00:35:34.500 colds and
00:35:35.600 regular flus
00:35:36.480 this season
00:35:37.140 and I think
00:35:38.300 this is again
00:35:39.040 one of those
00:35:39.560 things where
00:35:40.080 this is purely
00:35:41.120 anecdotal but
00:35:43.140 it was the
00:35:43.680 summer so you
00:35:44.980 shouldn't expect
00:35:45.680 that there would
00:35:46.120 be too many
00:35:46.680 colds and flus
00:35:47.480 in the summer
00:35:48.040 but let me
00:35:49.360 ask all of
00:35:51.620 you, do you
00:35:53.820 feel like you've
00:35:54.500 had fewer
00:35:55.320 regular illnesses
00:35:56.740 since the
00:35:59.380 coronavirus issue
00:36:00.820 in say
00:36:01.520 February?
00:36:01.940 I feel like
00:36:04.140 there are
00:36:04.860 fewer of
00:36:05.400 them.
00:36:06.540 Now, I
00:36:07.320 don't know if
00:36:07.640 that's true,
00:36:08.500 it's probably
00:36:09.320 a bias but
00:36:10.300 it just feels
00:36:10.860 like there are
00:36:11.300 fewer of
00:36:11.700 them.
00:36:12.560 There's
00:36:13.080 somebody on
00:36:14.040 Twitter who
00:36:15.060 claims to
00:36:15.760 be in the
00:36:16.200 business of
00:36:16.820 selling cold
00:36:18.120 and flu
00:36:18.660 medicines.
00:36:19.840 So it's
00:36:20.140 somebody who's
00:36:20.720 in that
00:36:21.040 industry and
00:36:22.320 they say that
00:36:23.020 the sales of
00:36:24.200 regular cold
00:36:25.320 and flu
00:36:25.740 medicines is
00:36:26.620 down.
00:36:27.760 Meaning that
00:36:28.700 regular colds
00:36:29.500 and flus may
00:36:30.840 be substantially
00:36:31.520 down, which
00:36:32.740 would make
00:36:33.120 sense, right?
00:36:34.160 Because we're
00:36:34.560 socially distancing.
00:36:35.960 Now, if it's
00:36:37.220 true that
00:36:38.040 regular colds
00:36:39.200 and regular
00:36:39.920 flus are
00:36:40.600 way down and
00:36:42.060 the lack of
00:36:43.020 sales of those
00:36:43.920 products that
00:36:44.740 treat them
00:36:45.340 would suggest
00:36:46.040 that's the
00:36:46.460 case, then
00:36:49.420 wouldn't that
00:36:50.120 be pretty good
00:36:50.880 evidence that
00:36:51.780 masks work for
00:36:52.900 coronavirus?
00:36:54.900 Now, that's
00:36:55.840 not proof because
00:36:57.600 regular colds and
00:36:58.940 regular virus may
00:37:00.660 be some
00:37:01.000 differences that
00:37:01.900 are not
00:37:02.720 obvious to
00:37:03.280 me as a
00:37:03.740 non-medical
00:37:04.260 person, but
00:37:05.300 if it were
00:37:05.920 true, just
00:37:06.860 take this as
00:37:07.860 a hypothetical,
00:37:09.240 if it could
00:37:09.880 be proven that
00:37:11.440 our regular
00:37:12.080 colds and
00:37:12.780 regular flu,
00:37:15.200 seasonal flu,
00:37:15.860 are way down
00:37:16.560 this year, if
00:37:17.940 we could prove
00:37:18.540 that was true,
00:37:20.240 would you be
00:37:20.920 willing to say
00:37:21.460 that masks
00:37:22.020 work or would
00:37:24.200 you still
00:37:24.600 fight it?
00:37:25.180 just asking.
00:37:28.320 Now, here's
00:37:29.200 the latest good
00:37:30.220 thinking that
00:37:30.900 I've heard on
00:37:31.480 masks, and it
00:37:32.300 goes like this.
00:37:34.680 If you and I
00:37:35.900 are in a small
00:37:37.020 room, and let's
00:37:38.140 say one of us
00:37:38.820 has the
00:37:39.260 coronavirus, and
00:37:40.080 we both have
00:37:40.740 masks, and you
00:37:42.360 and I stay in
00:37:43.080 that small room
00:37:44.000 breathing our
00:37:45.360 shared air for
00:37:48.280 hours at a time,
00:37:49.360 and one of us
00:37:50.020 has the
00:37:50.360 infection, what
00:37:51.580 are the odds
00:37:52.140 that the other
00:37:52.680 one will get
00:37:53.260 the infection?
00:37:54.560 Pretty good.
00:37:56.060 Pretty good.
00:37:57.380 And it's because
00:37:58.080 even though the
00:37:59.140 mask might be
00:38:00.260 blocking some of
00:38:02.220 my direct air
00:38:03.160 flow going
00:38:04.100 directly out, the
00:38:05.440 air is going
00:38:06.060 somewhere.
00:38:07.220 You exhale, so
00:38:08.360 it's coming out
00:38:09.300 the sides of the
00:38:09.980 masks or whatever.
00:38:11.460 So it's going
00:38:12.120 somewhere.
00:38:13.240 So eventually, if
00:38:14.660 you and I stay in
00:38:15.460 the same closed
00:38:16.360 room with the
00:38:17.100 windows closed and
00:38:18.180 bad ventilation, it
00:38:19.820 doesn't matter if
00:38:20.500 we have masks or
00:38:21.420 not.
00:38:22.120 So in that one
00:38:22.960 scenario, do
00:38:24.040 masks work?
00:38:25.820 I'd say closer
00:38:27.100 to no than
00:38:27.880 yes.
00:38:29.180 Meaning that if
00:38:29.940 you stay in that
00:38:30.640 room long enough
00:38:31.560 and the ventilation
00:38:32.380 is bad enough and
00:38:33.700 one of you has
00:38:34.440 coronavirus, the
00:38:36.140 other one's going
00:38:36.740 to get it.
00:38:37.680 It's just a matter
00:38:38.360 of time, right?
00:38:40.260 But suppose you
00:38:42.800 and I are at a
00:38:43.920 bar, and it's a
00:38:46.040 big bar, and I
00:38:47.960 come up to you
00:38:48.680 drunkenly and I
00:38:50.340 talk a little too
00:38:51.500 close to you, and
00:38:53.000 I've got my mask
00:38:53.840 on.
00:38:56.260 It's a brief
00:38:57.400 encounter.
00:38:58.460 Do you think that
00:38:59.300 would make a
00:38:59.800 difference?
00:39:00.260 I think yes, because
00:39:02.020 the mask would be
00:39:03.180 dispersing my
00:39:06.380 airflow out the
00:39:07.520 sides, and it
00:39:08.180 would be out
00:39:09.120 there, but it
00:39:09.620 wouldn't be like
00:39:11.340 a hose of my
00:39:13.700 bad virus directly
00:39:14.860 into your mouth
00:39:15.540 and your eyes.
00:39:16.220 So if I'm
00:39:17.140 talking to you
00:39:17.800 from two feet
00:39:18.480 away, I'm not
00:39:19.740 jamming virus into
00:39:21.040 your face.
00:39:22.020 It's sort of
00:39:22.520 coming out the
00:39:23.040 sides.
00:39:23.860 That's got to
00:39:24.480 make a difference,
00:39:25.220 right?
00:39:26.060 Doesn't common
00:39:26.720 sense tell you
00:39:27.520 that in that
00:39:28.160 scenario, probably
00:39:30.040 it makes a
00:39:30.600 difference, whereas
00:39:31.820 if you're locked
00:39:32.580 in the tiny room
00:39:33.640 with no ventilation,
00:39:35.180 probably it
00:39:36.020 doesn't.
00:39:37.400 And maybe if
00:39:38.100 you're outdoors,
00:39:38.920 the difference is
00:39:39.720 so small it's not
00:39:40.840 worth it.
00:39:41.660 But we don't
00:39:42.240 know.
00:39:43.220 All right.
00:39:43.560 I tweeted a
00:39:45.360 link so you
00:39:46.380 could see how
00:39:47.000 the CDC estimates
00:39:48.480 the number of
00:39:49.720 regular influenza
00:39:51.300 deaths per year.
00:39:54.220 And the reason I
00:39:55.120 tweeted it is for
00:39:56.120 you to see how
00:39:56.700 ridiculous it is.
00:39:58.200 So I've been
00:39:58.820 making a claim
00:39:59.760 that sounds so
00:40:01.160 ridiculously stupid
00:40:02.620 that nobody
00:40:03.360 believes it.
00:40:04.320 I don't think I've
00:40:05.100 convinced one person
00:40:06.380 that the following
00:40:07.460 is true.
00:40:08.420 But I'll say it
00:40:08.940 again.
00:40:09.960 I like being a
00:40:10.720 contrarian.
00:40:12.020 We don't know
00:40:12.660 how many regular
00:40:13.440 influenza deaths
00:40:14.500 there are every
00:40:15.120 year.
00:40:16.060 And almost all
00:40:17.300 of our conversation
00:40:18.280 about how bad
00:40:19.700 the coronavirus
00:40:20.280 is, is compared
00:40:22.080 to this number
00:40:23.680 we believed was
00:40:24.640 a pretty solid
00:40:25.460 number.
00:40:26.280 The number of
00:40:27.220 regular influenza
00:40:28.540 flu deaths per
00:40:29.600 year, which people
00:40:30.940 say is in the
00:40:31.920 low tens of
00:40:33.300 thousands, but
00:40:34.100 could be in the
00:40:34.720 high tens of
00:40:35.320 thousands if it's
00:40:36.100 a bad year.
00:40:39.120 So look at the
00:40:40.940 CDC and look at
00:40:42.340 the tortured,
00:40:43.880 convoluted way
00:40:44.960 that they
00:40:45.400 estimate it.
00:40:46.980 And if you have
00:40:47.560 any experience
00:40:48.580 in data analysis,
00:40:51.260 and I think you
00:40:52.700 would need it to
00:40:53.640 come to this
00:40:54.180 opinion, as I
00:40:55.400 do, there isn't
00:40:57.700 the slightest
00:40:58.200 chance these numbers
00:40:59.140 are good.
00:41:00.660 Not any.
00:41:01.900 And when I say
00:41:02.640 there's not the
00:41:03.320 slightest chance
00:41:04.020 they're good, I
00:41:04.680 don't mean they're
00:41:05.220 off by 10%.
00:41:06.500 Do you feel me?
00:41:08.360 I mean, they
00:41:09.460 could be off by
00:41:10.580 200%.
00:41:12.660 They could be
00:41:14.460 off by 90%.
00:41:16.360 There's just, when
00:41:18.260 you look at how
00:41:19.020 they calculate it,
00:41:19.920 you can't even
00:41:20.520 understand it.
00:41:22.600 There's a general
00:41:23.600 rule of life that
00:41:24.860 if somebody can't
00:41:25.780 explain something
00:41:26.700 to you, let's
00:41:28.140 say you have
00:41:28.660 average intelligence,
00:41:29.900 if somebody can't
00:41:31.040 explain it to you,
00:41:32.640 it's bullshit.
00:41:34.480 Right?
00:41:35.120 And if somebody
00:41:35.940 has to explain it
00:41:36.800 to you with a
00:41:37.400 whole bunch of
00:41:37.840 word salad, it's
00:41:40.040 not because they're
00:41:40.980 bad at explaining
00:41:42.160 necessarily.
00:41:43.920 It's because there's
00:41:44.660 nothing there to
00:41:45.440 explain.
00:41:46.700 It's just bullshit.
00:41:48.400 So the CDC
00:41:49.300 estimates and the
00:41:51.140 way that they go
00:41:52.040 about doing
00:41:52.860 regular influenza is
00:41:54.680 laughingly ridiculous.
00:41:56.880 And I would like
00:41:57.700 to put this
00:41:58.260 challenge out there.
00:41:59.960 So if there's
00:42:00.660 anybody who, just
00:42:02.140 look at my
00:42:02.620 Twitter feed, I
00:42:03.380 tweeted that within
00:42:04.720 the hour, look at
00:42:06.280 that link.
00:42:06.980 Look how the CDC
00:42:07.800 estimates the
00:42:09.200 influenza deaths.
00:42:10.360 And if you're
00:42:10.860 experienced in
00:42:12.520 data analysis, and
00:42:13.780 that's the important
00:42:14.400 part for this, if
00:42:15.640 you're experienced
00:42:16.420 at it, just look at
00:42:17.960 their explanation, and
00:42:19.620 then tweet at me
00:42:20.320 later that you
00:42:21.900 think that those
00:42:22.620 are useful estimates
00:42:23.800 or not.
00:42:24.740 I think you're just
00:42:25.700 going to laugh when
00:42:26.420 you see it.
00:42:27.880 All right.
00:42:30.480 And here's a
00:42:31.320 little factoid to
00:42:32.580 put on top of
00:42:33.200 this, and I need
00:42:33.760 a fact check on
00:42:34.560 this.
00:42:34.840 So every year we
00:42:36.500 know that there's
00:42:37.180 a vaccination for
00:42:38.300 the regular seasonal
00:42:39.580 influenza.
00:42:41.100 But we also know
00:42:42.300 that in each, in
00:42:43.820 various years, that
00:42:45.480 vaccination can
00:42:46.460 either be pretty
00:42:47.380 good, meaning it'll
00:42:49.060 protect a lot of
00:42:49.940 people, or they
00:42:51.520 didn't quite get the
00:42:52.480 right formulation for
00:42:53.760 the virus that
00:42:54.780 emerged, and it's
00:42:56.240 just sort of not
00:42:57.220 that good.
00:42:57.740 So would you say
00:43:00.280 that on the years
00:43:01.880 that we have the
00:43:02.560 really good and
00:43:03.440 strong version of
00:43:04.720 the vaccine, that
00:43:07.080 the total number
00:43:07.920 of flu deaths
00:43:09.420 should be lower,
00:43:11.440 right?
00:43:11.980 Because that's the
00:43:12.740 year that the
00:43:13.260 vaccine is working
00:43:14.140 really well.
00:43:15.240 Compared to a year
00:43:16.420 where we know the
00:43:17.260 vaccine wasn't a
00:43:18.760 good fit for the
00:43:19.840 virus, and it
00:43:21.100 didn't really protect
00:43:21.920 many people, you
00:43:23.400 would expect that
00:43:24.080 those would be the
00:43:24.820 years you'd have a
00:43:26.040 lot of flu deaths,
00:43:26.740 right?
00:43:28.360 Nope.
00:43:31.340 Nope.
00:43:32.540 Apparently there's
00:43:33.320 no correlation
00:43:34.040 between how good
00:43:35.800 the vaccine is and
00:43:37.780 how many people
00:43:38.400 die.
00:43:39.340 Now I need a fact
00:43:40.240 check on that.
00:43:41.220 Don't take that as
00:43:42.760 true because you
00:43:44.500 heard it on this
00:43:45.100 periscope.
00:43:46.080 I'm explicitly
00:43:47.440 acting for a fact
00:43:48.920 check.
00:43:49.600 This is just
00:43:50.080 something I heard
00:43:50.700 on Twitter, and
00:43:51.720 it could be
00:43:52.420 untrue easily.
00:43:54.340 All right, moving
00:43:55.340 on.
00:43:55.800 Ian Bremmer, who
00:43:57.720 is always
00:43:58.240 interesting, in
00:43:59.300 part because I
00:44:00.020 can't tell his
00:44:00.740 politics, which
00:44:02.160 is a compliment.
00:44:04.000 Let me give you,
00:44:05.000 let me give Ian
00:44:05.840 Bremmer, one of the
00:44:06.760 Bremmer, one of the
00:44:08.400 best compliments
00:44:09.420 that a Twitter user
00:44:11.680 can ever have.
00:44:13.140 I've been following
00:44:14.060 him for quite some
00:44:15.020 time.
00:44:16.340 I can't tell if he's
00:44:17.500 a Republican or a
00:44:18.440 Democrat or an
00:44:19.280 Independent.
00:44:19.600 Isn't that pretty
00:44:21.780 good?
00:44:22.040 Because he has
00:44:23.620 opinions which seem
00:44:25.140 well-reasoned, that
00:44:26.880 some are anti-Trump,
00:44:28.100 some are pro-Trump,
00:44:29.180 but in all cases,
00:44:30.380 they don't seem
00:44:30.880 crazy.
00:44:32.560 He doesn't seem to
00:44:33.780 have any crazy
00:44:34.480 opinions.
00:44:35.740 I don't agree with
00:44:36.760 them all, but when
00:44:38.060 I don't agree, it's
00:44:38.920 usually there's some
00:44:39.760 assumption that I
00:44:40.660 differ on, or I have
00:44:42.460 a different view of
00:44:43.300 human beings or
00:44:44.140 something.
00:44:44.700 But they're not
00:44:45.300 crazy.
00:44:45.660 So here's one of
00:44:47.580 his not-crazy
00:44:48.760 opinions that I
00:44:50.380 really liked.
00:44:52.560 When, you know,
00:44:53.500 President Trump is
00:44:54.220 often being accused
00:44:55.280 of having autocratic
00:44:56.600 tendencies, meaning
00:44:58.480 that if there was
00:44:59.260 any way he could, he'd
00:45:00.900 stay in office
00:45:01.580 forever.
00:45:02.660 If there was any
00:45:03.360 way he could, he
00:45:04.760 would become a
00:45:05.280 dictator, right?
00:45:06.840 That's one of the
00:45:07.480 biggest complaints
00:45:08.200 about Trump.
00:45:09.600 But then, as Ian
00:45:10.900 Bremmer points out,
00:45:12.220 the pandemic came.
00:45:14.400 Has there ever been
00:45:15.380 a more perfect
00:45:16.280 situation for a
00:45:18.320 would-be dictator
00:45:19.420 to take power?
00:45:22.240 Never.
00:45:23.900 Never.
00:45:24.740 This is as good
00:45:25.580 as it gets.
00:45:26.720 If you want to be
00:45:27.620 a dictator, you
00:45:29.640 want a pandemic.
00:45:31.700 Pandemic is
00:45:32.480 perfect for taking
00:45:34.520 over power.
00:45:36.000 You just say, hey,
00:45:36.920 it's an emergency.
00:45:38.640 You know, martial
00:45:39.200 law, I guess I've
00:45:40.340 got all the power
00:45:40.960 now, it's for your
00:45:41.800 own good.
00:45:42.940 Perfect situation.
00:45:44.100 And it wasn't
00:45:45.220 like the president
00:45:46.240 had to make some
00:45:46.940 kind of snap
00:45:47.640 decision.
00:45:48.740 It wasn't like he
00:45:49.660 made the wrong
00:45:50.160 decision.
00:45:50.680 Oops, I wish I'd
00:45:51.940 gone the other
00:45:52.380 way.
00:45:52.740 I could have been
00:45:53.220 more of a
00:45:53.700 dictator.
00:45:54.360 Because the
00:45:55.200 pandemic was sort
00:45:56.520 of a slow
00:45:57.080 moving, even
00:45:58.080 though it was
00:45:58.400 kind of fast,
00:45:59.140 it was slow
00:46:00.220 enough that he
00:46:02.200 would have made
00:46:02.720 the connection,
00:46:03.600 hey, hey, I
00:46:05.580 can start now and
00:46:07.260 become a dictator.
00:46:08.000 dictator.
00:46:09.120 And we saw
00:46:10.060 nothing like that,
00:46:11.980 as Ian
00:46:13.000 Bremer points
00:46:13.660 out.
00:46:14.280 You saw Trump
00:46:15.580 doing the
00:46:16.160 opposite of
00:46:17.340 trying to
00:46:17.900 consolidate power.
00:46:19.720 Literally the
00:46:20.520 opposite.
00:46:21.560 He didn't use the
00:46:22.640 War Powers Act as
00:46:24.160 much as his critics
00:46:25.200 think he should.
00:46:26.600 He let the states
00:46:27.740 make lots of
00:46:28.560 decisions, allowed
00:46:30.640 them to have the
00:46:31.240 power.
00:46:31.500 And his biggest
00:46:32.960 critics are
00:46:34.000 complaining that
00:46:34.880 he didn't take
00:46:35.740 enough dictator
00:46:37.860 control and let
00:46:39.760 everybody kind of
00:46:40.780 do their own
00:46:41.220 thing.
00:46:41.640 Didn't have a,
00:46:42.680 you know, even
00:46:43.040 Joe Biden wants
00:46:43.860 to be more of
00:46:44.600 an autocrat and
00:46:45.880 have more of a
00:46:46.920 federal guidelines
00:46:48.780 that the states
00:46:50.240 would have to
00:46:50.880 abide by in some
00:46:52.520 fashion.
00:46:53.620 So I thought that
00:46:54.640 was a great point.
00:46:55.460 If you thought
00:46:56.180 that President
00:46:56.960 Trump would take
00:46:58.420 the first chance
00:47:00.500 to become a
00:47:01.120 dictator, you
00:47:02.560 can't think that
00:47:03.300 anymore because
00:47:04.380 the first chance
00:47:05.220 came and went.
00:47:06.640 And he didn't
00:47:07.160 even take a
00:47:08.220 sniff at it.
00:47:09.520 It'd be one thing
00:47:10.240 if he sort of
00:47:10.880 took a run at it,
00:47:12.260 you know, like he
00:47:13.200 felt it down a
00:47:13.960 little bit, dipped
00:47:15.360 his toe in, or
00:47:16.320 you know, tried to
00:47:17.320 see if he could get
00:47:17.940 a little dictator
00:47:18.660 stuff going.
00:47:20.120 Nothing.
00:47:21.080 He actually ran in
00:47:22.780 the opposite direction
00:47:23.820 of states'
00:47:24.780 rights.
00:47:25.880 Now, we'll always
00:47:26.960 argue whether that
00:47:27.760 was the right choice
00:47:28.780 and his critics will
00:47:30.520 say he should have
00:47:31.100 been more directive.
00:47:33.540 But what you can't
00:47:34.520 argue with anymore
00:47:35.480 is the thought that
00:47:37.500 if he had an
00:47:38.940 opening, he would
00:47:39.780 try to become a
00:47:40.440 dictator.
00:47:41.120 You can rule that
00:47:42.140 out because he has
00:47:43.500 the opening right
00:47:44.180 now, still.
00:47:46.060 I mean, still, right?
00:47:47.120 If he decided, hey,
00:47:48.400 I'm going to
00:47:49.240 consolidate a lot
00:47:50.280 more power, he
00:47:51.280 could still do it
00:47:52.000 because people are
00:47:53.040 still worried about
00:47:53.780 COVID.
00:47:54.900 He just has no,
00:47:55.880 apparently no
00:47:56.480 interest in it.
00:47:57.120 Ali Alexander put
00:48:00.000 together a website
00:48:01.260 so that you can
00:48:02.720 refer people for
00:48:04.020 the fine people
00:48:05.100 hoax.
00:48:05.920 It's called
00:48:06.700 finepeople.org,
00:48:08.580 and it's got a
00:48:09.980 variety of resources
00:48:10.860 there, including the
00:48:11.740 full clip of the
00:48:12.800 fine people statements,
00:48:13.860 and I think I'm there
00:48:16.120 with some clips
00:48:16.920 talking about how it
00:48:18.760 was misinterpreted,
00:48:19.940 et cetera.
00:48:20.800 So just keep that in
00:48:22.180 mind because it's
00:48:23.100 real handy.
00:48:23.680 Every time somebody
00:48:25.360 asks you about
00:48:26.720 the fine people
00:48:27.500 thing, instead of
00:48:29.140 going through that
00:48:30.120 whole debunking
00:48:31.260 hoax thing where
00:48:32.260 they get all
00:48:32.800 confused and
00:48:33.640 everything, just
00:48:34.800 point them at
00:48:35.700 finepeople.org,
00:48:38.220 and excellent work,
00:48:40.220 Ali Alexander, a
00:48:41.920 patriot, because
00:48:44.200 that's, I mean,
00:48:45.540 that's just a
00:48:46.060 service, just a
00:48:47.720 service to the
00:48:48.500 country, and we
00:48:49.360 appreciate that,
00:48:50.320 Ali.
00:48:50.520 Twitter has
00:48:53.760 allowed the New
00:48:54.340 York Post to
00:48:55.040 tweet again, so
00:48:56.900 they looked at
00:48:57.740 their internal
00:48:59.420 policies.
00:49:01.960 Yes, Ali
00:49:02.900 Alexander, that's
00:49:03.920 correct.
00:49:04.420 Somebody is asking.
00:49:05.860 They looked at
00:49:06.460 their policies and
00:49:07.960 decided that they
00:49:08.940 would unblock the
00:49:10.100 New York Post.
00:49:11.580 So that's what
00:49:12.240 people wanted.
00:49:13.160 That's what
00:49:13.660 observers thought
00:49:14.840 was reasonable,
00:49:16.260 and that's what
00:49:17.240 they came around
00:49:18.000 to.
00:49:18.800 And I would like
00:49:19.560 to say this again
00:49:20.500 and again and
00:49:22.060 again.
00:49:22.500 I'll say this as
00:49:23.240 many times as I
00:49:24.720 need to for the
00:49:25.320 rest of my life.
00:49:27.500 If somebody makes
00:49:28.760 a mistake, and
00:49:31.080 then they hear
00:49:31.780 your complaint
00:49:32.480 about the
00:49:33.100 mistake, and
00:49:34.480 then they look
00:49:35.040 into it, they
00:49:36.760 admit they made
00:49:37.580 a mistake, and
00:49:39.320 then they take
00:49:40.240 actions to fix
00:49:41.200 it, not just
00:49:42.080 this one, but
00:49:42.920 in the future,
00:49:44.540 that's good.
00:49:46.860 And you should
00:49:47.700 just be happy
00:49:48.400 about that.
00:49:48.980 And I think
00:49:50.120 Twitter satisfied
00:49:50.980 that in this
00:49:51.860 case.
00:49:52.700 Now, that's not
00:49:53.440 to say that I'm
00:49:55.220 completely happy
00:49:56.100 with the
00:49:56.840 unbiasedness of
00:49:58.120 Twitter.
00:49:59.220 I would say
00:49:59.980 there's room for
00:50:01.940 improvement, if we
00:50:03.840 can be blunt.
00:50:05.580 Room for
00:50:06.320 improvement.
00:50:07.460 But when you
00:50:08.860 see an individual
00:50:09.780 case where you've
00:50:11.400 got a gripe, you
00:50:12.520 make your
00:50:12.960 complaint, they
00:50:13.820 hear it, they
00:50:14.860 acknowledge a
00:50:15.480 wrong, they fix
00:50:16.280 it, it's a few
00:50:17.540 days later, you
00:50:18.500 wish it had been
00:50:19.180 faster, but it
00:50:20.460 also comes with a
00:50:21.780 permanent change.
00:50:23.100 So it's not just a
00:50:24.100 decision on this
00:50:25.140 one tweet or
00:50:26.280 company, it's a
00:50:27.980 permanent change.
00:50:29.420 I feel like that's
00:50:30.420 about as good as
00:50:31.140 you can do.
00:50:32.420 All right?
00:50:32.820 Oh, by the
00:50:33.460 way, I am
00:50:37.060 remiss for not
00:50:38.240 having done this
00:50:39.000 sooner, and
00:50:40.200 there's no bad
00:50:41.260 intention with
00:50:42.400 this.
00:50:42.700 it has simply
00:50:44.600 slipped my mind.
00:50:46.580 I didn't connect
00:50:47.400 these two things.
00:50:48.660 So let me do it
00:50:49.380 now so that I
00:50:52.880 can close that
00:50:54.360 gap.
00:50:55.720 I do have
00:50:56.960 investments in
00:50:58.320 Twitter, meaning
00:51:00.060 that as just a
00:51:01.140 stock purchaser.
00:51:03.020 So several months
00:51:03.780 ago, I said to
00:51:04.640 myself, you know,
00:51:05.660 all these people
00:51:06.460 trying to leave
00:51:07.460 Twitter are not
00:51:08.840 having much success
00:51:10.080 because the other
00:51:11.100 services just don't
00:51:12.020 have that network
00:51:12.820 effect, because it's
00:51:14.040 no fun to be on a
00:51:15.020 service that doesn't
00:51:16.000 have all the people
00:51:16.700 you want to fight
00:51:17.300 with.
00:51:18.340 So I thought, you
00:51:20.140 know, there's just
00:51:21.220 nothing that can
00:51:22.200 compete with Twitter.
00:51:23.100 It's just such a
00:51:23.880 dominant position.
00:51:25.100 So I bought a stock
00:51:26.040 in them about, I
00:51:27.960 forget, six months
00:51:28.960 ago or something.
00:51:30.180 Turned out to be
00:51:31.140 tremendously good
00:51:32.320 timing, because
00:51:34.200 they've had quite a
00:51:35.360 bit of growth, even
00:51:36.080 though they went
00:51:36.500 down 20% yesterday.
00:51:37.860 I'm still way in
00:51:38.700 the plus.
00:51:39.320 So now you
00:51:42.720 know that just
00:51:43.240 for full disclosure.
00:51:45.080 But, having
00:51:46.320 said that, I
00:51:48.800 still maintain
00:51:49.660 that if they
00:51:50.360 fix something that
00:51:51.380 needs to be
00:51:51.960 fixed, we should
00:51:53.080 only be happy
00:51:53.840 about it, just
00:51:54.960 in general.
00:51:56.100 But there's
00:51:56.700 still big issues
00:51:57.940 that need to be
00:51:59.220 addressed.
00:51:59.920 All right.
00:52:03.540 Trump did one
00:52:04.680 of the best
00:52:05.160 persuasion plays
00:52:06.300 this week that
00:52:08.720 I've seen.
00:52:10.480 And I always
00:52:11.240 tell you that he's
00:52:12.000 good at picking up
00:52:12.800 free money.
00:52:13.920 There's just
00:52:14.260 something, if
00:52:14.780 there's just money
00:52:15.400 laying on the
00:52:15.980 table and nobody's
00:52:17.240 going to pick it
00:52:17.780 up, he just
00:52:18.920 notices it and
00:52:19.880 says, hey,
00:52:20.380 anybody?
00:52:21.160 Anybody?
00:52:21.620 Is this free
00:52:22.120 money?
00:52:22.440 Belong to
00:52:22.780 anybody?
00:52:23.180 All right.
00:52:24.040 I'll take it.
00:52:25.540 And this felt
00:52:26.940 like that.
00:52:28.260 And when I
00:52:28.720 describe this, I
00:52:30.320 think you're
00:52:30.780 going to have the
00:52:31.080 same reaction I
00:52:31.820 did, which is,
00:52:32.880 why didn't I
00:52:33.920 think of that?
00:52:35.220 All right?
00:52:35.540 Here it is.
00:52:36.100 Trump points
00:52:37.880 out, and I'm
00:52:38.500 going to paraphrase
00:52:40.040 his idea, not
00:52:41.940 his words, but
00:52:42.920 I'll paraphrase
00:52:43.840 his idea.
00:52:44.560 He tweeted
00:52:45.020 that, in
00:52:46.060 effect, and
00:52:46.640 again, these
00:52:47.120 are my words
00:52:47.840 putting on
00:52:48.360 what I
00:52:48.820 interpret as
00:52:49.560 his notion,
00:52:52.580 that imagine
00:52:53.580 that the
00:52:54.080 Supreme Court
00:52:54.840 is asked to
00:52:55.760 rule on the
00:52:56.780 election.
00:52:58.120 Pretty high
00:52:58.720 likelihood,
00:52:59.420 wouldn't you
00:52:59.780 say?
00:53:00.700 There'll be
00:53:01.140 something about
00:53:01.840 the election
00:53:02.360 outcome that is
00:53:03.860 likely to get to
00:53:04.860 the Supreme
00:53:05.440 Court.
00:53:06.400 We all feel
00:53:07.240 that, right?
00:53:07.880 Not 100%, but I
00:53:09.860 feel like, I
00:53:10.940 don't know, 75%
00:53:12.400 chance something
00:53:13.580 will end up in
00:53:14.280 the Supreme
00:53:14.740 Court, and it
00:53:15.880 might make the
00:53:16.460 difference between
00:53:17.220 who is president.
00:53:19.100 We're on the
00:53:19.580 same page.
00:53:21.060 Trump points out
00:53:22.000 the following,
00:53:23.380 and again, this is
00:53:25.000 my description of
00:53:25.940 it, not his.
00:53:27.400 Imagine that the
00:53:29.160 justices have
00:53:30.080 this decision,
00:53:31.820 election, and
00:53:32.920 they can go
00:53:33.520 one way, which
00:53:34.540 they know will
00:53:35.340 put Trump in
00:53:36.040 office.
00:53:36.900 If they go the
00:53:37.800 other way, it
00:53:38.540 puts Biden in
00:53:39.480 office.
00:53:40.940 If they put
00:53:41.780 Trump in
00:53:42.260 office, life
00:53:43.700 goes on, right?
00:53:45.260 The Supreme
00:53:45.780 Court's the
00:53:46.380 Supreme Court.
00:53:47.860 Yeah, there will
00:53:48.340 be some, you
00:53:49.340 know, riots in
00:53:50.080 the street, but
00:53:50.760 eventually we'll
00:53:51.420 get over it.
00:53:52.600 Life will go
00:53:53.160 on.
00:53:54.300 Now, suppose
00:53:54.900 they pick
00:53:55.400 Biden.
00:53:57.200 Biden has
00:53:58.140 threatened, he
00:54:00.280 doesn't use the
00:54:01.020 word threatened,
00:54:01.820 but he's
00:54:02.380 suggested, he's
00:54:03.320 hinted, that
00:54:04.840 there's a good
00:54:05.380 chance that he
00:54:06.540 would increase
00:54:07.200 the number of
00:54:08.140 justices on the
00:54:09.080 court.
00:54:10.120 Now, given that
00:54:10.960 we know the
00:54:11.540 justices do not
00:54:12.840 favor that, I'm
00:54:14.120 not a mind
00:54:14.720 reader, but we
00:54:15.760 know what Ruth
00:54:17.260 Bader Ginsburg
00:54:18.120 said, that nine
00:54:19.200 was the right
00:54:19.680 number, and as
00:54:20.720 soon as you
00:54:21.180 start messing
00:54:22.240 around with that
00:54:22.940 number, you
00:54:24.340 delegitimize the
00:54:26.500 Supreme Court,
00:54:27.760 because then it
00:54:28.320 just becomes a
00:54:29.360 captive of the
00:54:30.340 political process,
00:54:31.360 because the
00:54:32.160 next president
00:54:32.820 will just, you
00:54:33.700 know, add some
00:54:34.340 justices until
00:54:35.320 there's control.
00:54:37.540 So, you're the
00:54:39.440 Supreme Court, and
00:54:41.220 you've got to make
00:54:41.860 a decision, and
00:54:43.540 one of them, one
00:54:44.460 way we'll put
00:54:45.020 Biden in the
00:54:45.720 presidency, and
00:54:46.940 delegitimize your
00:54:49.300 job.
00:54:50.780 You're on the
00:54:51.340 Supreme Court, are
00:54:53.000 you going to make
00:54:53.720 a choice that
00:54:55.280 would delegitimize
00:54:56.600 the Supreme Court,
00:54:57.960 because that's
00:54:58.440 what a Biden
00:54:58.920 presidency promises
00:55:00.660 to do?
00:55:01.840 I mean, really?
00:55:03.220 That's not even
00:55:04.080 guessing?
00:55:05.380 He's going to do
00:55:06.520 a commission to
00:55:07.720 study, what's he
00:55:10.200 call it, reforming
00:55:11.220 the court, which
00:55:12.440 would include term
00:55:13.680 limits, maybe, or
00:55:15.860 packing the court,
00:55:16.860 adding people.
00:55:18.200 Those are two
00:55:18.940 things that you
00:55:19.580 can be pretty
00:55:20.300 certain the
00:55:21.380 sitting justices
00:55:22.460 do not favor.
00:55:23.380 So, do you
00:55:24.660 think that the
00:55:25.800 justices of the
00:55:26.980 Supreme Court will
00:55:28.600 ever come to a
00:55:30.440 decision that
00:55:31.760 would make the
00:55:32.580 Supreme Court
00:55:33.720 irrelevant?
00:55:37.320 Is there?
00:55:38.800 Now, think about
00:55:39.620 the fact, think
00:55:40.760 about this.
00:55:42.160 Think about the
00:55:42.920 fact that you
00:55:43.500 never had that
00:55:44.320 idea.
00:55:46.260 Don't you feel
00:55:46.960 dumb?
00:55:47.800 I did.
00:55:48.480 The moment I
00:55:49.180 read that, I
00:55:49.720 read that tweet
00:55:50.340 from Trump, and
00:55:51.060 I thought, oh,
00:55:52.580 my God, why
00:55:54.560 is he the first
00:55:55.360 person to think
00:55:56.200 of this?
00:55:57.200 Or, you know,
00:55:57.720 somebody may have
00:55:58.380 suggested it to
00:55:59.080 him.
00:55:59.480 But have you
00:55:59.900 seen this on
00:56:00.500 the news?
00:56:01.720 Have you seen
00:56:02.480 the news covering
00:56:03.940 the fact that if
00:56:05.360 the Supreme Court
00:56:06.240 votes on it, they
00:56:07.560 will be voting to
00:56:09.320 put themselves into
00:56:10.980 irrelevancy?
00:56:13.240 That's what the
00:56:13.980 vote will be.
00:56:15.180 And they'd know
00:56:15.820 it.
00:56:16.200 It's not just my
00:56:16.940 interpretation.
00:56:18.060 They would know
00:56:18.640 it.
00:56:18.980 They would know
00:56:19.460 that if Biden's
00:56:21.540 supporting vote,
00:56:22.580 would make the
00:56:23.820 Supreme Court and
00:56:24.980 maybe the
00:56:25.500 republic itself
00:56:26.520 irrelevant.
00:56:29.820 So for Trump
00:56:30.960 to, I call it
00:56:32.240 working the
00:56:32.860 refs, you know,
00:56:33.900 he brings up
00:56:34.420 this point so
00:56:35.200 the refs, the
00:56:36.120 Supreme Court,
00:56:37.340 it gets in
00:56:37.860 their head.
00:56:38.980 Because if they
00:56:39.860 weren't thinking
00:56:40.620 about it before,
00:56:42.120 they're thinking
00:56:42.940 about it now.
00:56:44.840 Now, I don't
00:56:45.700 think there was
00:56:46.320 any chance that
00:56:47.020 the Supreme Court
00:56:47.860 would not have
00:56:49.060 had that thought.
00:56:49.800 but the fact
00:56:51.040 that he works
00:56:51.700 the refs like
00:56:52.520 this, and he
00:56:53.600 does it so
00:56:54.320 well, he's
00:56:55.620 really working
00:56:56.300 the refs right.
00:56:58.080 And, you
00:56:58.940 know, that'll
00:56:59.460 be one of the
00:57:00.040 things that
00:57:00.720 Trump will
00:57:02.220 probably always
00:57:03.360 be the best
00:57:04.300 there ever was
00:57:06.220 at working
00:57:07.020 the refs.
00:57:08.380 But when you
00:57:09.180 read the history
00:57:09.760 books, it's not
00:57:10.920 going to say
00:57:11.280 that, because
00:57:12.000 it's like a
00:57:13.360 small skill.
00:57:15.000 But he's so
00:57:15.940 good at it, it
00:57:16.740 feels like it
00:57:17.320 should be in the
00:57:17.800 history books,
00:57:18.480 but it won't
00:57:18.840 be.
00:57:21.400 All right, even
00:57:22.260 Bill Maher is
00:57:23.020 saying that the
00:57:24.260 Democrats should
00:57:25.320 not prep for a
00:57:26.840 civil war if
00:57:27.660 they lose the
00:57:28.600 election, which
00:57:30.180 suggests to me
00:57:30.980 that at least
00:57:31.520 Bill Maher is
00:57:32.380 considering a
00:57:33.160 high likelihood
00:57:33.880 that the
00:57:35.280 Democrats will
00:57:36.000 lose the
00:57:36.420 election.
00:57:37.120 Because you
00:57:37.720 wouldn't be
00:57:38.160 talking about
00:57:38.760 the Democrats
00:57:39.420 going into a
00:57:40.200 civil war if
00:57:41.660 you believe the
00:57:42.560 polls, would
00:57:43.580 you?
00:57:44.600 Do you think
00:57:45.380 Bill Maher
00:57:45.840 believes the
00:57:46.440 polls?
00:57:47.800 Because if
00:57:48.240 you did, why
00:57:48.880 would you
00:57:49.140 even bring
00:57:49.560 up the
00:57:50.420 possibility of
00:57:51.240 a civil war?
00:57:52.600 You wouldn't.
00:57:54.260 Because Biden's
00:57:56.520 going to win,
00:57:57.420 according to the
00:57:58.100 polls.
00:57:58.760 So I think
00:57:59.300 that Bill Maher
00:57:59.900 probably believes
00:58:00.680 the polls as
00:58:01.460 much as, as
00:58:04.640 much as, what's
00:58:06.120 his name, as
00:58:07.520 much as Michael
00:58:08.540 Moore does, which
00:58:09.380 is not at all.
00:58:10.640 And he's advising
00:58:11.940 people to forget
00:58:13.640 about the civil
00:58:14.580 war, and he
00:58:15.180 points out
00:58:15.740 something that's
00:58:16.940 kind of funny.
00:58:17.800 that we don't
00:58:18.640 have a Mason
00:58:19.300 Dixon line, that
00:58:21.440 it wouldn't be a
00:58:22.540 civil war where
00:58:23.480 the South goes
00:58:25.100 to war against
00:58:25.780 the North.
00:58:26.720 It would be a
00:58:27.440 civil war within
00:58:28.120 your own house.
00:58:30.280 It would be a
00:58:30.960 civil war in
00:58:31.460 your neighborhood.
00:58:32.760 Would everybody
00:58:33.400 just start fighting
00:58:34.480 with their
00:58:34.840 co-workers?
00:58:35.480 How would you
00:58:35.800 even have a
00:58:36.300 civil war?
00:58:37.220 It's hard to
00:58:37.680 have a civil
00:58:38.120 war when you're
00:58:38.700 all living among
00:58:39.420 each other.
00:58:40.180 That would be
00:58:40.700 pretty messy.
00:58:42.220 But he's
00:58:42.760 recommending no
00:58:43.660 civil war, and
00:58:44.400 I think that
00:58:45.180 he probably, I
00:58:47.200 think Moore
00:58:47.660 probably represents
00:58:48.760 in many ways the
00:58:50.900 moderate Republican
00:58:51.820 view.
00:58:52.840 And if moderate
00:58:53.740 Republicans are
00:58:54.760 not on board for a
00:58:55.960 civil war, there
00:58:57.620 isn't going to be
00:58:58.100 one, because there
00:58:59.560 aren't enough
00:59:00.160 radical leftists.
00:59:02.940 I feel like all
00:59:03.880 you'd have to do is
00:59:04.500 stop the snack
00:59:05.240 truck, and you
00:59:06.940 could stop the
00:59:07.720 riots.
00:59:08.500 just get rid of
00:59:10.440 that Antifa
00:59:11.180 snack truck.
00:59:12.840 Just, they'll
00:59:13.440 get hungry.
00:59:14.860 Here's a question
00:59:15.640 for you.
00:59:16.400 You've heard it
00:59:16.920 said that the
00:59:17.820 winners are the
00:59:18.540 ones who write
00:59:19.380 history, right?
00:59:20.740 It's the winners
00:59:21.560 who write history.
00:59:23.180 But what is the
00:59:25.140 history of 2020
00:59:26.160 and 2019 going to
00:59:27.440 look like?
00:59:28.900 And really the
00:59:29.640 whole Trump
00:59:30.180 presidency.
00:59:31.000 What is that
00:59:31.400 history going to
00:59:32.000 look like?
00:59:32.880 Who gets to
00:59:33.720 write that?
00:59:34.960 Because I don't
00:59:36.140 know if there's
00:59:36.600 ever been a time
00:59:37.560 in my life,
00:59:38.500 where we
00:59:39.380 couldn't agree,
00:59:41.020 you know, even
00:59:41.660 among the
00:59:42.240 intellectual class,
00:59:43.780 what happened?
00:59:45.480 We can't agree
00:59:46.600 what's happening
00:59:48.340 now and what
00:59:50.000 just did happen.
00:59:51.900 We can't agree
00:59:52.960 on any of it.
00:59:53.620 So forget about
00:59:54.340 the history books.
00:59:55.640 How are you
00:59:56.080 going to write,
00:59:56.740 for example,
00:59:57.960 the history of
00:59:58.920 the Russia
00:59:59.420 collusion hoax?
01:00:01.960 How do you
01:00:02.800 write that?
01:00:03.780 As I say to my
01:00:05.020 smart Democrat
01:00:05.880 friend just
01:00:06.820 yesterday,
01:00:07.940 you know,
01:00:08.320 is he aware
01:00:09.140 that there was
01:00:10.700 an actual
01:00:11.500 coup attempt
01:00:12.480 in the United
01:00:13.740 States
01:00:14.300 by Democrats
01:00:16.240 and that it
01:00:17.400 failed?
01:00:18.480 And he says
01:00:19.580 there was no
01:00:20.340 coup attempt.
01:00:21.420 That's fake
01:00:22.180 news
01:00:22.620 by a bunch
01:00:24.540 of Trump
01:00:25.020 supporters.
01:00:26.100 So how do you
01:00:26.920 write the history?
01:00:28.060 In my opinion,
01:00:29.260 I was here.
01:00:30.800 I watched the
01:00:31.780 news.
01:00:32.160 I watched all
01:00:33.780 the news
01:00:34.400 that would be
01:00:35.060 the subject
01:00:35.700 of whatever
01:00:36.500 history gets
01:00:37.380 written.
01:00:38.340 I didn't miss
01:00:39.100 much of the
01:00:39.600 news.
01:00:40.580 And what I
01:00:41.120 saw was an
01:00:41.980 obvious,
01:00:42.860 well-documented
01:00:43.900 coup attempt.
01:00:47.260 What did you
01:00:48.100 see?
01:00:49.200 So if I were
01:00:50.200 writing the news,
01:00:50.980 I would say,
01:00:51.540 well,
01:00:51.840 these people
01:00:53.020 in the government
01:00:53.640 tried to do
01:00:54.780 a coup attempt
01:00:55.560 and members
01:00:56.820 of intelligence
01:00:58.320 and FBI
01:00:59.320 colluded
01:01:00.420 to try to
01:01:01.020 get rid
01:01:01.320 of the
01:01:01.520 president.
01:01:04.460 So in
01:01:05.540 the comments,
01:01:06.280 somebody is
01:01:06.780 saying,
01:01:07.220 OMG,
01:01:08.300 no coup
01:01:08.860 attempt.
01:01:10.000 And I
01:01:11.840 have to say
01:01:12.460 that I
01:01:13.560 acknowledge
01:01:14.100 that people
01:01:15.000 on the left
01:01:15.560 believe there
01:01:16.300 was no coup
01:01:16.900 attempt.
01:01:18.140 But it's
01:01:19.320 mind-boggling
01:01:20.160 when you
01:01:21.900 look at
01:01:22.460 the evidence
01:01:23.640 that's public
01:01:24.360 and indisputed.
01:01:25.980 So if you
01:01:26.680 only take the
01:01:27.480 evidence that's
01:01:28.300 not disputed,
01:01:30.260 the coup is
01:01:31.100 right there.
01:01:32.140 It's as obvious
01:01:32.780 as it could
01:01:33.340 possibly be.
01:01:34.540 Now,
01:01:34.860 what it
01:01:35.140 probably wasn't
01:01:36.400 is everybody
01:01:37.920 involved meeting
01:01:39.380 on a Zoom
01:01:40.280 call to plot
01:01:41.420 the overthrow
01:01:42.060 of the president.
01:01:43.040 I don't think
01:01:43.560 that happened.
01:01:44.700 I think everybody
01:01:45.460 just knew what
01:01:46.140 to do.
01:01:47.680 Everybody knew
01:01:48.460 that anything
01:01:49.040 they could do
01:01:49.680 against the
01:01:50.180 president would
01:01:50.880 be useful.
01:01:55.040 Yeah,
01:01:55.440 so to me,
01:01:56.880 it looks
01:01:57.320 obviously
01:01:58.480 like we
01:01:59.320 observed it.
01:02:01.260 We're still
01:02:01.780 observing the
01:02:02.460 aftermath of it.
01:02:03.800 And if I were
01:02:04.360 writing the
01:02:04.800 history book,
01:02:05.400 I would write
01:02:05.860 it like that.
01:02:06.540 I would say
01:02:06.940 there was a
01:02:07.340 coup attempt.
01:02:08.340 It was sort
01:02:09.120 of a loosely
01:02:11.060 organized coup
01:02:12.340 attempt.
01:02:14.160 But if
01:02:15.680 somebody who
01:02:16.240 is a Democrat
01:02:16.760 writes it,
01:02:18.080 they're going
01:02:18.440 to say that
01:02:19.040 Russia tried
01:02:20.480 to interfere
01:02:21.100 with the election
01:02:21.800 and there's
01:02:22.420 still some
01:02:22.960 suggestion
01:02:23.500 that the
01:02:24.100 Trump
01:02:24.420 administration
01:02:25.060 talked to
01:02:26.320 the Russians
01:02:26.760 too much
01:02:27.320 and we're
01:02:27.660 not clear
01:02:29.120 what they
01:02:29.560 did or
01:02:30.800 something like
01:02:31.400 that.
01:02:32.540 So this
01:02:34.620 is an honest
01:02:35.220 question.
01:02:36.540 How do you
01:02:37.100 write the
01:02:37.500 history?
01:02:38.840 If you see
01:02:39.460 Biden out there
01:02:40.200 saying that
01:02:40.720 the president
01:02:41.220 called service
01:02:42.380 people suckers
01:02:43.340 and losers,
01:02:44.380 which as far
01:02:45.280 as we know
01:02:45.720 did not
01:02:46.160 happen.
01:02:47.520 So what
01:02:47.800 do the history
01:02:48.280 books say?
01:02:49.280 Do the history
01:02:49.960 books say he
01:02:50.560 did say that?
01:02:51.920 Or do the
01:02:52.580 history books
01:02:53.100 say he
01:02:53.440 didn't say
01:02:53.840 that and it
01:02:54.320 was claimed
01:02:54.740 that he
01:02:55.020 said that?
01:02:55.820 How about
01:02:56.200 the fine
01:02:56.760 people hoax?
01:02:58.040 Do the
01:02:58.340 history books
01:02:59.040 write that
01:02:59.520 as a hoax?
01:03:00.620 Or do they
01:03:01.040 write that
01:03:01.480 like the
01:03:02.560 hoax actually
01:03:03.160 happened?
01:03:05.360 How about
01:03:06.000 the Hunter
01:03:06.420 Biden laptop
01:03:07.340 story?
01:03:08.860 Will the
01:03:09.340 history write
01:03:10.120 it that that
01:03:11.380 was a real
01:03:11.980 thing that
01:03:13.440 got ignored
01:03:14.080 by the media?
01:03:15.200 Or will
01:03:15.840 history just
01:03:16.820 ignore it the
01:03:17.740 same as the
01:03:18.160 media?
01:03:19.080 These are
01:03:19.680 pretty big
01:03:20.300 questions.
01:03:21.960 And let
01:03:23.180 me ask you
01:03:23.640 this.
01:03:25.000 I don't
01:03:25.820 remember if
01:03:26.360 I talked
01:03:28.160 about this
01:03:28.700 before, so
01:03:29.460 tell me in
01:03:30.200 the comments
01:03:30.620 if I already
01:03:31.080 talked about
01:03:31.520 this.
01:03:32.440 You've heard
01:03:33.000 of the
01:03:33.260 Gelman
01:03:33.720 amnesia
01:03:34.460 effect,
01:03:35.060 where if
01:03:35.660 you're an
01:03:35.940 expert on
01:03:36.560 a topic
01:03:37.020 and you
01:03:37.840 read a
01:03:38.240 news report
01:03:38.860 about that
01:03:39.320 topic, you
01:03:39.900 can tell
01:03:40.420 all the
01:03:40.940 factual errors
01:03:43.020 in it because
01:03:43.660 you just
01:03:44.040 happen to be
01:03:44.500 an expert
01:03:44.880 on that
01:03:45.300 topic.
01:03:46.140 But you
01:03:46.600 read any
01:03:47.080 other topic
01:03:47.740 in which you
01:03:48.260 are not an
01:03:48.760 expert, and
01:03:49.800 you kind
01:03:50.260 of uncritically
01:03:51.140 accept that
01:03:51.780 it's probably
01:03:52.360 kind of
01:03:52.880 true.
01:03:53.980 It's only
01:03:54.520 when you
01:03:54.800 read things
01:03:55.280 you know
01:03:55.720 the truth
01:03:56.240 that you
01:03:56.760 can see
01:03:57.100 how bad
01:03:57.720 the news
01:03:58.700 is.
01:03:59.540 You have
01:04:00.180 to assume
01:04:00.640 this applies
01:04:01.240 to history
01:04:01.920 as well.
01:04:02.880 We know
01:04:03.160 the winners
01:04:03.580 write history,
01:04:04.320 right?
01:04:04.740 But the
01:04:05.300 things you
01:04:05.700 think are
01:04:06.080 just facts
01:04:06.860 might not
01:04:08.400 be, because
01:04:09.480 our history
01:04:10.100 is pretty
01:04:10.940 subjective, it
01:04:11.940 turns out.
01:04:13.000 Now, let
01:04:13.440 me give you
01:04:13.840 an example,
01:04:14.640 and stop
01:04:15.040 me if I
01:04:15.500 already told
01:04:16.420 you this.
01:04:16.700 So, the
01:04:17.640 Wall Street
01:04:17.960 Journal had
01:04:19.160 an article
01:04:19.620 about Jack
01:04:21.360 Dorsey, and
01:04:22.280 they mentioned
01:04:23.280 me in the
01:04:23.940 article.
01:04:25.000 Now, there
01:04:25.500 were two
01:04:25.980 facts in
01:04:27.440 this little
01:04:28.000 mention of
01:04:28.660 me in
01:04:29.440 the Wall
01:04:29.780 Street
01:04:30.000 Journal.
01:04:30.860 Now, the
01:04:31.200 Wall Street
01:04:31.580 Journal is
01:04:32.000 a pretty
01:04:32.280 reliable
01:04:32.860 publication,
01:04:33.940 wouldn't
01:04:34.120 you say?
01:04:34.920 If you
01:04:35.260 were to
01:04:36.280 rank
01:04:36.680 credibility
01:04:37.840 of
01:04:38.540 publications,
01:04:39.460 the Wall
01:04:39.720 Street
01:04:39.880 Journal would
01:04:40.360 be very
01:04:40.960 near the
01:04:41.400 top, the
01:04:43.000 very best
01:04:43.620 in
01:04:44.020 credibility.
01:04:45.100 two things
01:04:47.040 that were
01:04:47.420 said about
01:04:47.860 me in
01:04:48.220 there.
01:04:48.580 One, I
01:04:49.160 was labeled
01:04:49.680 a conservative.
01:04:51.700 I'm left
01:04:52.260 of Bernie.
01:04:53.860 So, my
01:04:54.820 label was
01:04:56.520 dead wrong,
01:04:57.520 complete
01:04:58.600 opposite.
01:04:59.340 I support
01:04:59.940 President
01:05:00.440 Trump, but
01:05:01.660 it has more
01:05:02.060 to do with
01:05:02.580 Trump's
01:05:03.120 special skills
01:05:04.180 than some
01:05:05.400 alignment in
01:05:06.360 philosophy.
01:05:07.880 All right?
01:05:08.480 The second
01:05:09.120 thing they
01:05:09.500 said was
01:05:10.160 they paired
01:05:10.680 me with
01:05:11.880 DeRay
01:05:12.840 McKesson,
01:05:13.640 I think,
01:05:13.900 as people
01:05:16.220 who Jack
01:05:17.460 interacts
01:05:18.440 with.
01:05:19.880 Now, I've
01:05:21.340 interacted with
01:05:22.200 Jack several
01:05:23.460 times, most
01:05:24.280 of them about
01:05:25.020 Twitter itself
01:05:26.820 and Twitter
01:05:27.760 censorship.
01:05:29.840 And once on
01:05:31.500 a book he
01:05:32.220 recommended, but
01:05:33.100 fairly ordinary,
01:05:36.700 trivial stuff.
01:05:37.960 I've only been
01:05:38.820 in the room
01:05:39.320 with him once
01:05:40.160 in my life
01:05:40.940 for about 20
01:05:41.700 minutes on
01:05:42.340 charity-related
01:05:43.860 thing.
01:05:45.100 And that's
01:05:48.540 it.
01:05:49.880 And the
01:05:50.600 Wall Street
01:05:50.980 Journal puts
01:05:52.240 me in the
01:05:52.700 article with
01:05:53.480 DeRay, who
01:05:54.520 is one of
01:05:54.980 the activists
01:05:55.920 for Black
01:05:56.520 Lives Matter,
01:05:57.520 as if we
01:05:58.140 are somehow
01:05:58.740 key people
01:06:00.380 in Jack's
01:06:01.160 lives.
01:06:01.780 I would not
01:06:02.700 be in the
01:06:03.280 top 5,000
01:06:04.800 of key people
01:06:06.540 that are
01:06:07.520 important to
01:06:08.160 Jack Dorsey.
01:06:08.780 I'm just
01:06:09.520 somebody who
01:06:09.940 has talked
01:06:10.280 to him a
01:06:10.600 few times.
01:06:11.500 I like
01:06:11.840 him.
01:06:13.700 But that's
01:06:14.100 it.
01:06:14.840 Now, if you
01:06:15.420 read that
01:06:15.860 article, you
01:06:16.500 would think
01:06:16.880 that we're
01:06:17.200 hanging out
01:06:17.680 all the
01:06:18.000 time, and
01:06:18.860 that somehow
01:06:19.900 my association
01:06:21.460 with him
01:06:22.140 has some
01:06:23.480 importance as
01:06:25.300 much as
01:06:25.760 DeRay's, who
01:06:26.820 had a long
01:06:27.300 time relationship
01:06:28.620 with him.
01:06:29.500 I understand.
01:06:30.860 So, the
01:06:32.120 only two
01:06:32.720 things about
01:06:33.360 me were
01:06:34.720 very misleading.
01:06:37.060 Did you
01:06:37.600 know that?
01:06:38.160 If you
01:06:38.540 had read
01:06:38.860 that article,
01:06:39.460 would you
01:06:39.700 know that
01:06:40.040 those two
01:06:40.480 things were
01:06:40.960 misleading?
01:06:42.260 Probably not.
01:06:43.540 Probably not.
01:06:44.740 But if it
01:06:45.440 were about
01:06:45.780 you, you'd
01:06:46.260 know it.
01:06:47.340 So, don't
01:06:49.380 trust your
01:06:49.840 history.
01:06:50.420 Don't trust
01:06:51.040 your media.
01:06:52.900 The only
01:06:53.600 people you
01:06:54.100 can trust
01:06:54.660 are the
01:06:56.020 people here
01:06:56.560 on this
01:06:56.960 live stream.
01:06:59.900 That's it.
01:07:00.900 You're the
01:07:01.280 only people we
01:07:02.020 can trust.
01:07:03.180 By the way,
01:07:03.640 there's another
01:07:04.080 thing that
01:07:04.720 Trump does
01:07:06.000 that's really
01:07:06.780 good,
01:07:07.100 persuasion.
01:07:08.360 And I
01:07:08.600 laugh every
01:07:09.120 time I
01:07:09.460 hear it
01:07:09.760 because it's
01:07:10.200 so ham-handed
01:07:12.900 and yet it
01:07:14.160 completely works.
01:07:15.800 He tells his
01:07:17.500 supporters that
01:07:18.360 they're smarter
01:07:18.980 than the
01:07:19.460 experts.
01:07:20.920 Now, I
01:07:22.440 know that
01:07:23.000 this works
01:07:23.700 because the
01:07:24.880 secret to
01:07:25.600 the Dilbert
01:07:26.080 cartoon strip
01:07:27.000 was when I
01:07:28.220 started telling
01:07:28.840 my readers
01:07:29.440 that they
01:07:29.940 were smarter
01:07:30.500 than their
01:07:31.020 boss.
01:07:32.680 Everybody
01:07:33.280 loves to
01:07:34.020 hear that
01:07:34.600 they're smarter
01:07:35.180 than the
01:07:35.540 experts and
01:07:36.620 they're smarter
01:07:37.120 than their
01:07:37.600 boss.
01:07:38.540 Are they?
01:07:39.700 Well, I
01:07:40.480 suppose sometimes.
01:07:41.960 Sometimes you're
01:07:42.700 smarter than
01:07:43.140 your boss.
01:07:44.220 Sometimes you
01:07:44.760 are smarter
01:07:45.200 than the
01:07:45.520 experts.
01:07:46.760 But as a
01:07:48.500 persuasion
01:07:49.200 thing, it's
01:07:50.340 really super
01:07:52.000 good.
01:07:53.260 Because people
01:07:54.080 are primed to
01:07:55.100 want to believe
01:07:56.000 that they're
01:07:56.480 smarter than
01:07:57.020 experts.
01:07:58.040 So Trump
01:07:58.700 will say this
01:07:59.240 all the time.
01:07:59.820 He'll say,
01:08:00.180 well, the
01:08:00.800 experts said
01:08:01.580 this, and
01:08:02.200 then he'll
01:08:02.520 look at his
01:08:02.980 audience, the
01:08:03.840 rally audience,
01:08:04.520 but you're
01:08:05.440 smarter than
01:08:06.080 them.
01:08:07.280 They say
01:08:08.140 they're the
01:08:08.640 elites, but
01:08:09.740 you're the
01:08:10.120 elites.
01:08:10.880 It's really
01:08:11.440 good stuff for
01:08:12.760 bonding with
01:08:13.560 his audience.
01:08:15.020 It's A-plus
01:08:15.920 persuasion.
01:08:17.340 All right.
01:08:20.420 Scott sides
01:08:21.280 with the
01:08:21.840 maskers.
01:08:22.640 I want to
01:08:23.220 see this
01:08:23.720 accusation
01:08:25.120 before I
01:08:25.640 block you.
01:08:26.880 It says,
01:08:27.200 Scott sides
01:08:28.080 with the
01:08:28.380 maskers to
01:08:29.300 keep his
01:08:30.220 leftist
01:08:30.820 credibility.
01:08:32.020 So I'll
01:08:34.540 be blocking
01:08:35.060 you.
01:08:38.320 Somehow that
01:08:39.220 disappeared.
01:08:41.160 If you
01:08:42.100 apply mind
01:08:43.060 reading to
01:08:43.640 me that is
01:08:44.560 incorrect, such
01:08:46.240 as that, do
01:08:47.620 you really
01:08:48.020 think that I
01:08:51.620 would back
01:08:52.240 masks just
01:08:53.920 to preserve
01:08:54.620 my leftist
01:08:55.480 credibility?
01:08:57.380 I feel like
01:08:58.480 you must be
01:08:59.080 new here.
01:09:00.540 Do you
01:09:00.880 think I care
01:09:01.560 about my
01:09:02.060 leftist
01:09:02.560 credibility?
01:09:05.400 Is that
01:09:06.120 high on my
01:09:06.820 list of
01:09:07.300 things to
01:09:07.980 preserve?
01:09:09.880 So saying
01:09:10.820 good things
01:09:11.340 about Trump
01:09:12.160 literally every
01:09:13.680 fucking day,
01:09:15.240 and somebody
01:09:15.880 is on here
01:09:16.360 saying, I
01:09:16.800 think he
01:09:17.160 wants to
01:09:17.580 preserve his
01:09:18.320 leftist
01:09:18.840 credibility.
01:09:20.920 No.
01:09:22.300 That has
01:09:22.900 no bearing
01:09:23.400 on any of
01:09:23.980 my decisions.
01:09:25.420 What I
01:09:25.840 would like
01:09:26.200 to destroy
01:09:27.040 is my
01:09:28.540 association
01:09:29.480 with either
01:09:30.020 the left
01:09:30.540 or the
01:09:30.920 right.
01:09:31.560 In my
01:09:32.220 perfect world,
01:09:33.600 neither the
01:09:34.180 left nor
01:09:34.620 the right
01:09:35.000 would claim
01:09:35.600 me, but
01:09:36.480 would understand
01:09:37.240 that I can
01:09:38.520 be fluid
01:09:39.340 based on
01:09:40.140 where the
01:09:40.760 facts and
01:09:41.940 my sense
01:09:42.540 of reason
01:09:43.060 take me.
01:09:44.780 So anybody
01:09:45.700 who thinks
01:09:46.160 that I'm
01:09:46.640 pro-mask for
01:09:47.440 a political
01:09:48.600 reason doesn't
01:09:50.020 understand risk
01:09:51.600 management.
01:09:52.840 I'm pro-mask
01:09:54.060 as a risk
01:09:55.140 management
01:09:55.740 decision,
01:09:56.700 meaning that
01:09:57.340 there's enough
01:09:58.620 evidence that
01:09:59.340 they probably
01:10:00.100 work that
01:10:01.460 it's worth
01:10:01.940 the risk.
01:10:03.300 There's
01:10:03.660 certainly a
01:10:04.080 downside.
01:10:05.140 I recognize
01:10:05.700 the downside
01:10:06.320 completely,
01:10:07.900 but on
01:10:08.580 balance, we
01:10:10.140 unfortunately
01:10:10.620 have to
01:10:11.040 sort of
01:10:11.380 guess.
01:10:12.880 And none
01:10:13.480 of us are
01:10:13.920 smart enough
01:10:14.520 to know if
01:10:15.200 the masks are
01:10:15.860 a good idea
01:10:16.560 or not.
01:10:17.200 We're not.
01:10:18.000 If you think
01:10:18.740 you know
01:10:19.460 that masks
01:10:21.120 are bad,
01:10:21.780 or you think
01:10:22.240 you know
01:10:22.920 that masks
01:10:24.220 are definitely
01:10:25.000 good,
01:10:25.760 you're not
01:10:26.780 smart.
01:10:28.040 Sorry.
01:10:29.120 If you say
01:10:30.120 I have a
01:10:30.960 strong opinion,
01:10:32.960 well, you're
01:10:33.900 probably reasonable.
01:10:35.200 Even if your
01:10:35.860 strong opinion
01:10:36.520 is one way
01:10:37.240 or the other,
01:10:38.220 it would be
01:10:38.900 reasonable
01:10:39.420 to look at
01:10:40.960 this and have
01:10:41.520 a strong
01:10:41.960 opinion.
01:10:43.000 It would be
01:10:44.040 stupid to
01:10:45.900 say you know
01:10:46.520 they work
01:10:47.100 or you know
01:10:48.620 they don't.
01:10:49.540 That would
01:10:49.920 just be stupid.
01:10:52.400 So let me
01:10:53.340 be as clear
01:10:54.180 as I can
01:10:54.640 on that.
01:10:55.820 But risk
01:10:56.380 management,
01:10:57.060 you could
01:10:57.460 certainly go
01:10:57.920 either way
01:10:58.280 on that.
01:10:59.980 All right.
01:11:01.840 I'm seeing
01:11:02.620 Warren for
01:11:03.900 Secretary of
01:11:05.300 Treasury.
01:11:06.400 There's some
01:11:07.140 thinking that
01:11:07.760 that would
01:11:08.060 scare Wall
01:11:08.680 Street too
01:11:09.340 much.
01:11:10.200 So maybe
01:11:11.060 we won't
01:11:11.520 see that.
01:11:12.380 And I
01:11:12.660 heard somebody
01:11:13.120 smart say
01:11:13.720 that if
01:11:14.080 Elizabeth
01:11:14.580 Warren took
01:11:15.460 a cabinet
01:11:15.960 job,
01:11:17.200 her Senate
01:11:17.860 position would
01:11:19.420 be filled
01:11:20.600 by a
01:11:21.440 Republican
01:11:21.840 governor.
01:11:23.440 And so
01:11:23.860 she doesn't
01:11:24.360 want to
01:11:24.600 leave the
01:11:24.880 Senate
01:11:25.120 because that
01:11:26.320 would become
01:11:26.760 a Republican
01:11:27.740 Senate seat.
01:11:29.740 Slaughter meter
01:11:30.260 100%.
01:11:31.420 And I will
01:11:32.620 talk to you
01:11:33.260 tomorrow.
01:11:34.500 Thank you.