Episode 1197 Scott Adams: Odds of Rigging an Election and Getting Away With it? Whiteboard Time!
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Summary
In this episode of Coffee with Scott Adams, we talk about the coronavirus vaccine, and the controversy surrounding it. Plus, we discuss the election and allegations of fraud surrounding it, and why we should all be worried about science.
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Hey, come on in. It's time. It's time for Coffee with Scott Adams. And today, there will be a
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whiteboard. Yeah. Just when you thought today couldn't get it any better, and then you found
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out that Coffee with Scott Adams features a whiteboard, and you said to yourself, oh, that's
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as good as it can get. Wait, wait, wait. It's a double-sided whiteboard. Yeah, you didn't see
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that coming, did you? That's right. And in order to enjoy the double-sided whiteboard, to its full
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extent, what do you need? Not much. A cup or a mug or a glass, a tank or a child or a stein, a canteen
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jug or a flask, a vessel of any kind. And you can fill it with your favorite liquid. I am partial
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to coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing
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that makes everything better, way better, 75% better. It's called the simultaneous sip. It happens
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now. I feel science becoming more accurate. I feel data starting to be credible. And that's
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just one sip. Imagine if I finish that entire mug. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. We'll talk
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about the election and allegations of fraud in a moment, but some fun stories first.
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We have yet another potential vaccine that could make a big difference. Oxford-AZ, so AstraZeneca,
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I guess. They've got a vaccine that has a strange story to it. Here's the strange story. It was a
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big old scientific trial, and it was supposed to be two doses to each person. But they discovered
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after they had given a bunch of the first doses that the first doses had been, by mistake,
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half as much as they were supposed to be. So then they said, well, what do we do now? Because we
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started this trial, we started this trial, and the first doses are all the wrong amount. So they said,
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well, we can salvage it by at least giving the full dose on the second one, and let's just see what
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happens. And what happened was, it turns out, according to their initial data, I've got some
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questions about the accuracy of the data, but their data says that when they got a half dose,
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followed, I think, a month later by a full dose, that they got to 90% efficiency of the vaccine.
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But when they did it the way they were supposed to do it, two full doses, it was only 60% as
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effective. Now, there are a few possible ways to explain this. Number one way, everything about
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this trial is wrong. Now, was there a point in this whole vaccine situation where you said to
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yourself, I'm feeling pretty good about science? Because scientists are killing it. You know, this
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whole warp speed thing. Man, clap, clap, clap for our scientists around the world, not just in the
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United States, but other countries too. And they're just killing it with this development of the
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vaccine. So science is something you can depend on. Except wait, what was that thing you said to me,
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Scott, about science did an entire randomized drug trial of the most important thing in the world
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that could be tested at this moment, coronavirus vaccine. And in the most important trial,
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or one of the few for these vaccines, one of the most important trials in the world,
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maybe in all of civilization. And how many people had to look at that, whatever the directions were,
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how many people looked at that study before rolling it out to not know that they had somehow
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accidentally given everybody half a dose? Are you still really confident about your scientific process?
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Because the trouble is that science as a system is terrific compared to other ways of understanding
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your reality. But unfortunately, science is populated with people. And while we can all agree that science
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as a concept is pretty darn awesome, can we also agree that human beings as entities are pretty darn
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shitty? In fact, I could give you a pretty long list of human beings who are total crap. And unfortunately,
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when you take a concept like science, which is terrific, really excellent, and you combine it with
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organic creatures who tend to be pretty shitty on average, you get something that's the average of
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something awesome, science, and something pretty shitty, people. So that's how you get half a dose.
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So put that right in your arm, huh? Yeah, let me shoot up with a vaccine that the best scientists in was a
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Great Britain couldn't figure out the difference between half a dose and a full dose. Yeah, I got a lot
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of confidence in that one. I think I'll take the American vaccine. That's just me. I think I'll take the
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American one. Not that it's necessarily better. By the way, I am pro-vaccination, just to be clear.
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I'm pro-vaccination, but it's always a tentative opinion, meaning I'll change it in a heartbeat
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if the data changes. So I'm not going to make a personal decision about taking a vaccine,
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the coronavirus vaccine, any one of the different vaccines. I'm not going to make a personal decision
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until when? Last minute. If you're making a decision now, instead of waiting for the last
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minute, you're doing it wrong, because there might be new information. So, you know, I'm not going to
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wait for people to take in and wait a year to see if they have any health problems. I probably won't do
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that, but I'm certainly going to wait as long as I can before I make a decision, just in case. I think
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that I'll probably take it. But here's the other interesting thing about this Oxford-AstraZeneca
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story. The accident may have discovered something that's really, really important,
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in the same way that yellow sticky notes were discovered by accident, and I think penicillin
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was discovered by accident, and a lot of things get discovered by accident. Could it be, and some
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of the scientists have speculated, that there is something about giving a half dose and sort of
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maybe priming your body a little bit, you know, it's like putting down a primer coat of paint or
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something, and then a month later when you give the full dose, what if that makes the vaccination
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way, way better? Could it be that they accidentally discovered an effect that is monstrously important,
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which is if you give people a small dose of a drug, let your body acclimate, and then give them a
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bigger dose, is that something that could work in other situations, or is it something unique to this
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one vaccination, or is it just bad data? Could be any of those things. But possibly it's a gigantic,
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possibly a gigantic discovery that we're just seeing the first glimmer of. Maybe. You never know.
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I like to look on the bright side. Well, the big story, of course, is that Trump has authorized the GSA
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to fund and assist in the Biden transition. Does that mean that President Trump, in his secret
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inner thoughts, is really conceding? Well, we don't know his secret inner thoughts. We don't know them
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at all. But I would say if he is consistent with his past, he keeps his options open. Why wouldn't you?
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Everything we know about Trump is that he always keeps his options open. So he does have, technically,
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a path to the presidency. Another term. So the fact that he's doing something in case it goes the way
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most people think it's going to go, at the same time he's keeping his option open in court, etc.,
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nothing wrong with that. Completely consistent. And does not tell us his state of mind.
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In the same way that it made sense to do Operation Warp Speed, by producing a bunch of vaccines before
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we had tested them, just so we'd have them ready in case they worked, it's the same thing. Good risk
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management is what Trump did with Warp Speed. He said, let's put a billion dollars into it, or probably
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multiple billion, to make the vaccines just in case they're safe. We'll find out later, but we can always
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just throw the vaccines away if we have to. So same reason. They should do the transition just in
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case it goes the way it looks like it's going to go, and still keep your options open. So apparently
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there's some data out that 79% of Trump supporters believe the election was fraudulent. 79%.
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Now, do you remember back in 2016, one of the biggest criticisms that I personally received
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was, Scott, are you telling me you think that President Trump, or candidate Trump at the time,
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are you telling me you think Trump is persuasive? Where's the evidence of that? I don't see any
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evidence he's persuasive. Well, how about convincing 79% of his supporters that an election had been
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thrown? You can't get much more persuasive than that. Now, keep in mind that persuasion tends to
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only work on your own team. It's not like the Democrats are persuading the Republicans or vice versa.
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That's sort of not a thing. It used to be, a little bit. But it's not really a thing at the moment.
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So watching Trump persuade his own base is really a remarkable thing. Do you think anybody else could
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have persuaded 79% of their base to think the election was rigged? Maybe. I don't know. But it's
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still pretty impressive, right? Oh, yes. And then in the comments, somebody's reminding me that 30% of
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Democrats think the election was fraudulent. 30%. That's about as persuasive as you can get. Or is it?
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We're going to get to that in a moment. We'll talk about whether it would be reasonable to assume,
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as these many people have, that the election was fraudulent. In the face of, don't the Democrats
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tell us every single day? There's no evidence. Where's all the evidence? If you have zero evidence,
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how could you possibly convince 79% of the people that fraud happened with zero evidence?
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How does that happen? Well, it could be because there is evidence. And Democrats just say there
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isn't. You know, I would say the sworn statements from over 200 people that they personally observed
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irregularities is evidence. So here's a question for you. Just hold this question in the back of your
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head, because it will get funnier over time. All right? So we'll just put it in there now.
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Just let it simmer. It's going to get better. And here's the thought. Democrats have said that
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Trump has done tremendous damage in his first term. And indeed, one of the reasons for them wanting to
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replace him is to prevent the further tremendous damage that he would do. So how long is it going to
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take Biden to fix all of that damage? And what was the damage? Can somebody remind me what the damage is
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that Biden is fixing? Is it the climate? Because there's a big difference in the climate opinion,
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right? But correct me if I'm wrong. Hasn't the Trump administration lowered our emissions below the
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Paris Accords if we had stayed in them? So it doesn't look like there's much to fix in terms of
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the climate, because we were actually doing great. What about the Middle East? Will Biden go in there and
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fix everything that Trump broke in the Middle East? Well, no, actually, it looks like Trump fixed the
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Middle East, or at least it's heading in the right direction. Israel's making friends with a number of
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neighboring countries like never before. Iran seems to be, you know, marginalized, and things seem to be
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relatively less war-like than normal. So I don't know what he's fixing there. How about the economy?
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Trump had the economy just humming along until coronavirus, of course. Now, will Biden fix the
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coronavirus? There's not much he can do for the economy. The economy is going to do what it does.
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But will Biden come in, and on Inauguration Day, he's going to come in and say,
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people, people, people, wear your masks. And then people will, this is my understanding of how this
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is going to work. People who had been under a Trump administration, because he was a little less,
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let's say, assertive about wearing masks, he agrees with it, but he's not really pushing it.
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It feels as if when Trump was, let's say, a little tepid, a little lukewarm about masks,
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that that caused people to wear fewer masks. That's the claim, right? So when Biden becomes
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president, will you be more likely to wear a mask? So in the comments, tell me, because obviously the
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Democrats are all wearing masks, is my understanding. I mean, you could fact check that, but my
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understanding is that since Democrats don't listen to Trump, or they want to do whatever is the
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opposite he says, you would expect the Democrats are already wearing their masks, right? I mean,
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sure, maybe sometimes they get caught with that one. But let's say generally they're wearing their
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masks. Oh, in the comments, you think I'm wrong. You think Democrats are not wearing masks? Well,
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that doesn't make any sense. How could it be that Democrats are not wearing masks completely?
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Because they're not listening to Trump, because they're Democrats. Oh, well, anybody who believes
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that Biden is going to tell the public to wear masks, and then we just will? I don't think you
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understand how people work. I don't think he's going to fix the mask thing. And how about if he
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does some kind of a national standard for the states? Are the states going to say, oh, well,
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that's what we're waiting for. We're waiting for that national standard. I don't think so. I think the
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states are going to say, uh, we're all different. Every state's different. How about we know what
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we're supposed to do? We're listening to the same experts. Why don't we do it our way, and you do it
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your way, and maybe we'll see who did better. I don't know how, I don't know exactly what Biden's
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going to fix. Do you? Can you give me a list of all the things that Trump broke? What did he break?
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What did he break that's going to get fixed? Because this is a very basic belief of the
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Democrats, not only that Trump might do bad things, but that he already broke stuff. Now,
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let's say you say, Scott, Scott, Scott, the obvious one is the coronavirus. The United States has higher
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death rate than a lot of places, and therefore Trump broke that. Now, suppose I say, okay,
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let's take that as a given. If I accepted that that's true, isn't that in the past? Because
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how do you fix the past? Is Joe Biden going to use his time machine to go back and fix the past?
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I don't think that's an option. So what is it he's going to do that would be that different than what
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Trump would have done if he had a second term? I feel like the mask wearing is going to be pretty
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similar. I feel like the shutdowns are going to be pretty similar. And I feel like the vaccines are
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going to come out and be delivered pretty similarly. So even if you accepted, oh, we hate what Trump
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already did in the past. And even if you accept that it was a mistake and caused X number of lives,
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even if you believe that, how does that translate into the future? Because now we actually understand
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the situation in a way we didn't before. So now that we understand it better, I would imagine that
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a Republican and a Democrat would end up acting the same way. When you didn't know what worked and
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what didn't, which is the early months, then you would expect some people would get it wrong,
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some people would get it right. But now that we're far more informed, still not quite informed,
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but more informed, I would expect a Democrat and a Republican to look pretty much the same.
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You know, they might have a difference in what school. So did Trump break school? No,
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it looks like the Democrats broke that and the teachers' unions. I think the teachers' unions broke
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the schools. That wasn't Trump. He tried to break the teachers' unions. All right. So look for that.
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Just think about where's all this damage that the Democrats are fixing and what are they doing to fix it?
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Remember, I predicted that if Joe Biden won, Republicans would be hunted. And I was roundly mocked
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through society for such a ridiculous thing. Well, of course, we've seen people get assaulted just for
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being Trump supporters. So indeed, they are hunted on the street. And certainly, they will be ferreted out
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in employment, etc. But here's something that Rachel Maddow said last night, I guess. So Rachel
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Maddow asked an NAACP legal defense counsel, Sherilyn Ifill, she said, Trump officials are challenging the
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election. She asked if they should be sent to jail for challenging the election, which is not a crime.
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And she knows it. So Rachel Maddow is literally in public. This is not a private conversation. And there's no
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question about whether she said it or not. You know, it's on video. It's public. And she's asking the question in
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public, if people who broke no laws, because there's no even allegation of a broken law, just questioning the
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outcome. If they should be jailed. You fucking bitch. You fucking piece of shit. Rachel Maddow. She's
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asking if Trump supporters should be jailed for not breaking a crime, just doubting the outcome of an
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election. Think about that. Now, when you were mocking me for saying that Republicans would be hunted,
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what the fuck is this? What the fuck is this? If this is not a pretty clean signal that Democrats are
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willing to jail? I mean, that's her word. She used the word jail. I'm not interpreting. The word jail
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should be sent to jail. So they feel like they did something wrong.
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Who the fuck calls me at this time of day? Jesus Christ.
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Sorry, didn't mean to take your Lord's name in vain there. Slipped out. But this is shocking. So Rachel
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Maddow should lose her job for that. Don't you think? I mean, it's not going to happen. But don't you
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think she should lose her job for suggesting that Republicans should be jailed just to make them feel
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differently? She said that. I'm not making that up. She said they should be, do you think they should
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go to jail so that they feel like they did something wrong in order to stop Trumpism from becoming the
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norm? She actually said that. Amazing. I hope that Trump does some kind of a clever pardon before he
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leaves office. You know, something like stepping down on the last day of his term and having Pence
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pardon him for everything he's ever done. I hope that happens. Now, normally, I would say, I sure hope
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that anybody who committed a crime gets caught. I mean, typically, I would like people to get caught
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for doing crimes. But what exactly is Trump's crime? Can you think of one? I have not heard a crime even
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alleged, have you? Apparently, there are all these lawsuits in the Southern District of New York, and
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they're looking through his financials and stuff. But do me a fact check on this. Has anybody alleged
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a crime? And why haven't we heard it? What's what is the specific crime? Because otherwise, it looks
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like they're just looking for a crime. Are you okay with that? Are you okay that a politician can be
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examined just to see if there's a crime without any evidence that there was a crime? Are you okay with
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that? I'm not okay with that. And as a principle, I would I would prefer that if you imagine that Trump
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broke some law, I would I would prefer that he get away with it, rather than have a norm that you can just
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go looking for crimes, if there's no evidence of a crime. So which looks like what's happening. Now, if it turns out
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there's all this evidence of a crime that I don't know about, then I will revise my opinion. But based
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on what we don't know, it looks like they're after him for political reasons. And I think that should
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be shut down. So if Trump and Pence used a political trick, you know, to sort of pardon him for everything
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that happened up to that point in life, I think that would be appropriate. Because there's a trick being
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used against him. So if you use a trick to counter another trick, I'm okay with that 100%. And I very
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much hope that it happens. And again, I don't care if there's a real crime or not. Because whether or
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not there's a real crime is a much lower priority than we shouldn't be doing this. We shouldn't be
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doing this. Because, you know, if if I could go to your house and tear it apart and look through all
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your financials, could I find any crimes? I'd probably find something. That's why we don't do
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that. So I guess Joe Biden has picked Jake Sullivan to serve as National Security Advisor. And Joel
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Pollack points out that Sullivan would be taking the job that Mike Flynn had briefly. And that Sullivan
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had falsely accused Flynn of Russia collusion. So the guy who would take Flynn's job is somebody
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who falsely accused Flynn of a crime of Russia collusion, not even just a normal crime, but like
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the crime of all crimes. All right, you got Bill de Blasio closing public schools because
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the city is at 3% positivity for coronavirus. But the schools themselves are only at 0.28.
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So we should follow the science, right? Here's, I could say this a million times, and most people won't
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be able to hear it. There are some ideas that we just can't hear. It's an unusual phenomenon. I'll give
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you one. Some of you will be able to hear what I say next. Some of you just can't hear it. Like,
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it'll be like noise, like Charlie Brown's teacher. And so this will be an experiment. And it goes like
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this. We all know we should trust science, and we should trust the experts. But they interpret
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things differently. The experts and the scientists look at the same data, and they interpret it
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differently. So how can you trust them? Trusting science is a good idea. Trusting scientists is the
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dumbest fucking idea in the world. Because they're people. And people can't be trusted. People can be
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right. And people can be wrong. But you can't trust them. You can't trust them. You can trust them if
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you've got lots of visibility, and, you know, there are controls, and somebody is double checking. But
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that's not really trusting, is it? That's more like making sure that all of the opportunity for cheating
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is to do. And mischief has been removed. But trust science. But I don't have access to science. Do
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you? Reach into your pocket and grab me a handful of science. Do you have any? Because I don't have
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any. Look at my shelves. I got some books on my shelves, but I don't have any science. I don't have
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science. I can't get my hands around it. Don't have access to it. I'll tell you what I do have.
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People telling me their opinions. That's what I have. I don't have any fucking science. I got people
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telling me their opinions about science. I don't trust people. Are you kidding me?
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I don't trust people at all in that way. Or as somebody wise said, I forget who, somebody said
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recently, the one thing you can trust is that people will act like people. You can definitely
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trust that. You can trust that. All right. Hypothetically, here's a question I asked,
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and I got some answers that I think are pretty good. Hypothetically, what would happen if the
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process goes forward and it goes all the way through the electoral college process? Biden gets confirmed,
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goes to the House. I don't know the exact process, but I guess the House says that they confirm it or
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they validate it or whatever. Let's say it goes all the way through the system and Biden is ready to be
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inaugurated or even he gets inaugurated. My understanding is that the actual inauguration
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is unnecessary. It's more of a ceremony. But let's say he goes through the process that he's absolutely
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the president of the United States. Our constitution is active. The Supreme Court is spoken. If they get
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involved, it's just done. And then, hypothetically, just asking the question, and then after that,
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proof comes out that the election was rigged and rigged sufficiently that it changed the outcome.
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What would happen? Because haven't all the experts been telling us it's too late?
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Correct me if I'm wrong. Hasn't every expert said, you know, once it gets to this point,
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well, then it's just too late. It's over. Is it? Is it? I'm not so sure. Because let's say it were
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proven in court that the election was wrong. Let's say it went to the Supreme Court. And they said,
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all right, here it is. It's proof. And let's say the Supreme Court looks at the proof and they go,
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oh, okay, that's proof. Yeah, that actually is proof. And let's say, hypothetically, they were convinced.
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What do they do? Now, somebody said impeachment. Maybe. I don't know. I have no idea. I have no idea.
00:31:02.820
And I'm not sure our system quite knows. But if you tell me that producing that proof after Biden gets
00:31:12.380
officially in office, if you're telling me that doesn't matter, I'm not so sure. I think it might
00:31:19.460
matter. It might matter. Maybe we'll find out. So Trump tweeted that in Wisconsin, so he's quoting
00:31:32.320
Victoria Tenzing, who's also an attorney. And he's quoting her saying, in Wisconsin, somebody has to be
00:31:39.060
indefinitely confined in order to vote absentee. So I guess this claim is you'd have to be, I don't know,
00:31:47.260
shut in or something. And in the past, there were 20,000 people in Wisconsin. This past election,
00:31:54.900
there were 120,000. And Republicans were locked down to the vote counting process. So the president
00:32:01.600
tweeted that. And I looked at that. And I thought, that's a pretty easy claim to check. Right? I mean,
00:32:11.580
these are facts which are in the public record. So I thought, is that true? So I just tweeted down
00:32:19.060
and said, is this true? And it took about five seconds for somebody to send me a link to the
00:32:25.500
Wisconsin page that shows that this is not true. It's not even slightly true. It's not even in the
00:32:35.700
zip code of true. It's not in the galaxy of true. It's nowhere near true. There's nothing about it
00:32:43.400
that's true. So which of the experts we're listening to is Victoria Tenzing. She's an attorney,
00:32:54.680
high-end attorney. And she obviously has all of the skills and expertise to look into a, let's say,
00:33:02.880
a legal election situation and then interpret it for you. Because that's what an attorney does.
00:33:10.060
They'll look at the law and then tell you what they saw. So she's an expert. Is she right? It doesn't
00:33:19.120
look like it. So anybody who tells me to listen to the experts, what planet are you on? What planet are
00:33:28.420
you on? That listening to experts has worked out really well for you when they disagree?
00:33:37.100
I promised you, I don't know, a couple weeks ago, that your understanding of reality was about to
00:33:42.940
change because of this election situation. I would argue that it has, but I saw some critics pushing
00:33:49.800
back saying it hadn't because it looks like Biden's going to take the job. But let me fill this idea
00:33:58.660
out a little bit, all right? Do you think the will of the people was important to the election outcome?
00:34:07.600
In other words, do you think that we just experienced something like democracy?
00:34:11.740
Do you think that people looked at the information, made decisions, voted? We counted the votes.
00:34:21.280
We picked a winner. Is that what happened? Because here's what I saw. I saw, first of all,
00:34:29.600
that social media has been brainwashing the public for years. So I saw a social media brainwashing
00:34:37.840
that's very, very effective because they're good at it. So where does brainwashing come in from social
00:34:45.780
media with your free specific example that's just mind-boggling? Mind-boggling. So last night on the
00:34:54.100
show The Five on Fox News, Richard Fowler was sitting in for the person representing the left,
00:35:04.160
sitting in for Juan Williams, I believe. And he claimed on television, in public, that he personally
00:35:14.060
believed that the President of the United States had once recommended drinking bleach.
00:35:22.160
He thinks that happened. Now, the other members of The Five literally yelled at him when he said that,
00:35:30.540
you know, in unison, that didn't happen because it didn't happen. The President never used the word
00:35:36.820
bleach, never used the word drinking. He talked about injecting disinfectants in the concept of light
00:35:43.580
as a disinfectant. You can put it on a ventilator or stick it in the lungs. And there was a trial that
00:35:50.380
was being, you know, ready to look in to see if that could work. So the President said he was just
00:35:57.180
joking, which I don't buy that one. But in either case, it is easy to confirm he definitely didn't
00:36:04.940
say drink bleach. And Richard Fowler, and I'm sure he was not lying. He looked completely honest when he
00:36:13.180
was saying this. And I believe it because I don't think he's, you know, I don't think he would lie
00:36:17.540
about it. He believed he actually saw it. He didn't believe he heard about it. He believed he witnessed it.
00:36:28.780
Think about this. Now, Richard Fowler is not just a voter. This is somebody whose job is talking about
00:36:36.620
presidential politics every day. He's a professional. Richard Fowler would be, I would guess,
00:36:44.460
my cat's doing a walk by here. I would guess that Richard Fowler would be in the top 1% of well-informed
00:36:53.960
people in this country. Would you agree with me? Somebody who does it for a job, and they're so good
00:37:00.400
at it that they're on TV, they're on radio shows, podcasts, whatever. Richard Fowler is a high-end,
00:37:06.980
super well-informed political person. He thought he witnessed the president telling the country to
00:37:16.080
drink bleach or suggesting. And it never happened. But the fake news said it happened so many times
00:37:23.880
that he has a false memory of it. I mean, to watch this happen is amazing to see it happen in real
00:37:31.300
time. So you got your fake news. You got the changes in the mail-in ballots. Probably that alone
00:37:37.720
changed the election. If we know that Republicans like to vote in person, we know that Democrats
00:37:43.320
and low-motivated people might send in a ballot. We know there's more possibility of mischief.
00:37:51.980
So probably the thing that affected the election was whatever social media brainwashed you for,
00:38:00.800
whatever the fake news created as your reality, the mail-in ballots, which is a process change,
00:38:09.040
which probably changed the outcome. Just the fact that there was a coronavirus and they had to do
00:38:14.480
mail-in ballots probably could change the outcome. And then what about the fraud? We'll talk about that
00:38:19.720
in a minute. So how much of what I just mentioned... That's my cat talking to you. How much of what I
00:38:32.220
just mentioned is the people's will? None of it. It's the opposite of the people's will. Nothing like
00:38:39.100
democracy happened. There was nothing like democracy that just happened in the United States. But we
00:38:47.020
probably will get over it. We probably will get past it within a civil war, which is a credit to the
00:38:55.280
country, I think. Now, I don't recommend this. And let me emphasize this. The next thing I'm going to
00:39:03.520
say, I do not recommend. Do not recommend it. But if it happened, it'd be funny, which is Republicans
00:39:11.520
rigging the Senate race in Georgia, using the same tricks that they believe the Democrats used, that the
00:39:19.240
Democrats say are impossible. It would just be hilarious. Because if the Republicans used their same
00:39:27.720
techniques, and the Democrats knew it, what would they do? Because they couldn't really call them out for the
00:39:38.420
technique. Because their entire argument is that these techniques can't work. Not that they didn't work, that they
00:39:46.680
can't. It just isn't possible. So again, I'm not recommending it because it's breaking the law. I never
00:39:53.900
recommend breaking the law. But it would be funny. I'm just saying it would be funny. I don't recommend it.
00:40:01.380
All right. So I tweet that said the Milwaukee recount is going slowly because Trump's attorneys have been
00:40:13.500
constantly interrupting and challenging tens of thousands of ballots. What is it that you would
00:40:21.460
challenge on these ballots? If an attorney challenges a ballot, what would be the basis? Well, I would think
00:40:30.400
the basis would be a technical problem, like an address wasn't complete, or a signature didn't match.
00:40:38.720
Aren't those supposed to be rejected? Now, I know there's a process for curing them, going back to the
00:40:45.540
voter. But that process has passed. I believe that there's a time limit that's probably passed in which
00:40:53.780
you can cure a ballot. So what happens if the attorneys find a whole bunch of ballots that maybe could have been
00:41:01.520
cured, some of them if you were in the right time frame, but that time frame is passed? What happens? This is
00:41:09.600
really untested territory. I don't know what the legal result is. Do they throw them out? And then they can never be
00:41:15.500
cured? Because I've got a feeling if you put a lawyer in a room with a bunch of ballots, that lawyer is going to have a lot of
00:41:23.720
arguments. It's like, well, that doesn't look like the letter E to me. That looks like the letter C. You got the address
00:41:33.480
All right. So then another tweet. And again, I don't believe anything that's data in 2020. All right?
00:41:48.540
Doesn't matter what the topic is. It's voting. It's coronavirus. It doesn't matter. If you believe any
00:41:54.580
public, regardless of the source, if you believe any data you see in public in 2020, you haven't been
00:42:02.820
paying attention. It's pretty much all unreliable. Some of it is true, but it's all unreliable.
00:42:12.720
Okay? And here's one of them. 59 counties in Georgia rejected zero mail-in ballots this year.
00:42:20.960
Uh, not zero rounded to the nearest decimal, says the tweet, but actually zero. What are the odds
00:42:30.020
that, you know, and of course, typically it's only going to be in the zero to 2.2% range. National
00:42:37.820
average is 1%, and it was 1.4% in 2016 and 2018. So is that a big difference? I mean, maybe,
00:42:46.600
maybe the difference between zero and 1%. Maybe there are lots of, maybe there are lots of
00:42:54.620
counties that had zero rejected ballots. What do you think? I think the odds of that are pretty close
00:43:02.420
to zero, meaning that they probably just turned off the controls. Isn't it far more likely that
00:43:09.660
what happened is nobody was rejecting ballots in those counties? I can't say it's impossible,
00:43:17.680
but I also don't know if the data is even correct. So, uh, don't let me make you think
00:43:23.200
past the sale, because I think I did that accidentally. The sale is whether the data is even
00:43:29.080
real. All right? Don't get past that. And then thinking that if it is real, it shows that there's
00:43:36.500
fraud. You got to back up. I don't know if this data is real. And if it is real, I don't even,
00:43:42.960
I don't know if it's unusual. So you got to figure that out first. Don't think past the sale.
00:43:48.500
Um, let's talk about whether election cheating is possible. Okay? Here's the, here's the big payoff
00:43:56.100
for this live stream. It, how many of you think that it's possible to do enough cheating that you
00:44:05.000
would, um, change the result of a national election and not be spotted? How many think that's a thing
00:44:13.700
that could be done? Change a national election. So it's got to be enough fraud to do that, but also
00:44:20.620
not be spotted. Is it possible? Because I'm talking to, uh, at least one smart person who says,
00:44:28.360
Scott, Scott, Scott, don't you know that the system is designed with way too much transparency?
00:44:37.040
There's people watching at every step. You've got witnesses, you've got cameras in the ceiling,
00:44:42.040
you've got, uh, signatures, you've got verification. I mean, they've removed the ability
00:44:50.100
to cheat, at least cheating in a big enough scale to change an election. What do you think?
00:44:58.480
Now, when the Democrats, uh, and I'm, I'm talking to one in particular, who was very smart, very,
00:45:05.800
uh, let's say very, uh, worldly in terms of would not be some kind of a virgin about,
00:45:13.460
you know, the fact that crime exists in the world. Somebody who's seen enough of the dirty side of life
00:45:19.020
who should know where fraud can and cannot live believes that the election system
00:45:26.660
is sufficiently free of it that you could conclude this was a fair election just because the way it's
00:45:34.420
designed. What do you think? Let's go through it. Number one, do you believe that, uh, the Kennedy
00:45:43.760
Nixon, uh, election was rigged? Now, if it was rigged, and I believe historians now agree in this,
00:45:51.720
right? Give me a fact check, but I think the historians agree that the Kennedy Nixon election
00:45:57.900
was rigged. Now, did it have to be widespread? Apparently not. I think it could have been done
00:46:05.400
in maybe, you know, one city that was Democrat controlled, for example, Chicago or whatever the
00:46:10.840
claim is, Ohio, I forget. But it didn't need to be widespread, and it was not detected at the time.
00:46:19.500
Now, have things changed since the early 60s in terms of have we gone from an election that could
00:46:27.260
be rigged to an election that can't be? Well, I wonder if you went back in time and said to the
00:46:34.100
people who had created the election process, hey, you guys created this process. Is there any way
00:46:40.340
anybody could cheat enough to change a national election? What would they have said in 1960,
00:46:47.380
whatever? Somebody says, Scott's going full QAnon. You have fallen. I'm going to block you for saying
00:46:56.660
that. Um, you have fallen for the narrative. You won't find anything that I say here that you disagree
00:47:07.700
with. I'll bet you. I'll bet you. I'll bet you there's not a single thing that I say that you'll
00:47:13.220
disagree with. Um, so don't you think that during the Kennedy-Nixon time, the people who designed it
00:47:21.300
thought that they had a system that couldn't be cheated? They probably thought they had it.
00:47:27.260
But they didn't, apparently. So just put that in the back of your mind and it will continue.
00:47:35.240
So have you seen, um, did you see the special on CNN? Um, I hope, I hope you all saw this special
00:47:44.320
on CNN where they went through the entire voting process from, you know, from beginning to end.
00:47:51.840
And they showed you all the controls and the way that they monitor it so that you could see with
00:47:58.640
your own eyes from beginning to end, there's a trail of custody that's watched the whole time.
00:48:04.400
You have multiple observers. You've got cameras. You all saw that special, right? That showed
00:48:08.980
that election cheating is so difficult. It basically couldn't happen. Did you all see the special?
00:48:15.300
Oh, no, you didn't. Because it doesn't exist. Yeah, there's no special like that. But why not?
00:48:25.920
Isn't that the most obvious news content you can imagine? What would be a more obvious thing to put
00:48:33.260
on television if you were CNN than a little segment that says, look, people think this election was
00:48:40.780
stolen. Let us show you how that's impossible. All right? Let us just walk you through it.
00:48:47.440
You stupid Republican rubes. Let us just show you how the process works. And then, you idiots,
00:48:56.160
you won't be thinking it was fraud because we'll just show you. You couldn't have a fraud in this
00:49:00.700
situation. We'll just lay it out for you. Look at it yourself. You can see there's no opportunity for
00:49:08.380
fraud in this process. Yeah, you didn't see that fucking special, did you? And you're not going
00:49:15.660
to see that special. Do you know why? Yeah, you know why. You know exactly why. Nobody wants to put
00:49:23.780
that on the air. All right. So I asked that question, why are no experts saying that it can't be done?
00:49:34.900
And an election law expert weighed in, David Becker, UC Berkeley grad. So we know he's smart.
00:49:45.880
UC Berkeley. Very smart. So what do you think an election law expert said when I asked the question,
00:49:52.860
why haven't we seen somebody saying that these are secure elections? And he says, I'd really hope
00:50:00.300
you'd listen to experts on this. Because experts are really fucking believable. So he says, I really
00:50:09.200
hope you'd listen to experts on this. More paper ballots, more identity validation, more audits,
00:50:15.420
more bipartisan observation and transparency than ever before. Widespread fraud is not possible
00:50:23.280
and didn't happen. See what he did there. You see how he inserted the word widespread. Did, did I say
00:50:32.300
widespread? Nope. If he had not put the word widespread in there, would he be, would he be so
00:50:38.820
confident? Nope. It was the Kennedy Nixon election that was allegedly rigged. Was it widespread? No,
00:50:50.500
no. No, it was very targeted. So he had to change the argument to debunk it. And you see this very
00:50:57.740
consistently. And then when I pointed out that he changed the argument, he changed it to some other
00:51:02.380
argument. So basically, nobody is going to touch this question of whether these elections are, are
00:51:09.680
cheatable. Who, who would be a good expert to tell you whether a city election was rigged? Would you want
00:51:19.440
to hear from an election law professional or would you want to hear from Rudy Giuliani? Now say what you
00:51:28.220
will about Rudy Giuliani, but don't you think he's kind of an expert on municipal fraud? I always think
00:51:37.780
he would know more about that than just about anybody in the world. If you've been a mayor of a major city
00:51:43.760
and you've been a prosecutor and you've prosecuted the mafia and, you know, you lived in this world of
00:51:50.260
fraud and crime and it's, you know, part of your experience, I think Rudy Giuliani is an expert.
00:51:57.180
And Rudy Giuliani says if Philadelphia had a fair election this time, it's the first time in 60 years.
00:52:03.540
Why don't you listen to him? Because listen to the experts.
00:52:07.500
The listen to the experts things is purely stupidity because you can't tell which expert
00:52:16.100
to listen to. If you could, you know, that's a different conversation, but you can't. You can't
00:52:24.360
tell. Is it Rudy or is it this election professional? They have different opinions. All right. So let's
00:52:31.240
talk about whether, uh, you had the motive and the opportunity for fraud in this election.
00:52:37.900
And I'll move this whiteboard over here so you can see it. Let's talk about the motivation first.
00:52:44.480
The fake news has told Democrats that they were dealing with some kind of a
00:52:48.960
orange Hitler. If you thought that you could stop orange Hitler from a second term, would you break the
00:52:59.080
law to do it? Well, some of you would, some of you would not. If only one person was involved in
00:53:06.160
elections, well, maybe that person would never break the law, but that's not the case. Millions of people
00:53:13.040
are involved in elections. You only need enough of them to be willing to break the law for the law to
00:53:20.760
get broken. You don't need everybody to break the law. You just need enough. And if you have millions of
00:53:27.120
people who believe that orange Hitler might be taking a second term, are there enough people
00:53:34.200
who would be willing to break the law? Yes. Clearly and unambiguously, yes. So there would be enough
00:53:42.940
people willing, but willingness is not enough to get it done, right? Just be willing to do it.
00:53:49.220
Did they think it was an existential threat? And did they believe the hoaxes? Did they believe the
00:53:58.200
fine people hoax? Did they believe the drinking bleach hoax? If you believe this stuff because you
00:54:03.740
believe the fake news, does that create a situation in which the motivation for massive fraud involving
00:54:11.180
potentially lots of people, is the motivation there? Yes, right? Is there anybody watching this
00:54:19.080
who would disagree with the statement that the motivation to cheat was higher than it has ever
00:54:26.460
been? By far. Not even close. Because we've never had this situation where people had actually been
00:54:33.560
brainwashed to think that Hitler was maybe taking office for a second term. That's unprecedented.
00:54:40.260
So I think everybody would agree, no matter what kind of expert you are. And hey, wait a minute,
00:54:46.460
am I an expert? Am I an expert on, let's say, human motivation within a large organization?
00:54:55.020
I kind of am, in my own way. If you're the author of the Dilbert comic, you are kind of an expert on
00:55:03.580
human motivation in large organizations. But I don't have a degree in anything like that, so
00:55:09.820
I won't make that claim. All right. Now let's talk about the question of, is it possible? Because I
00:55:17.780
think this is a really important question. If you have the highest motivation in the world
00:55:22.240
to cheat, and I would argue it is literally the highest motivation in the world to cheat,
00:55:29.260
and that does exist, is it possible? That's the only other question. Because if both of those exist,
00:55:36.700
the highest motivation, and it's practical to do it, would you not say it's guaranteed to happen?
00:55:43.660
I think it would be, right? So if it happened, could you detect it? And how would you detect it?
00:55:52.240
For example, could you observe it directly? Well, the complaint is that the observers were not
00:56:00.940
allowed to observe. And in a number of cases, there are no observers. So could you, could direct
00:56:09.040
observation be enough to guarantee that there are no places that there could be fraud? I think the
00:56:16.200
answer is obviously that's not enough. Direct observation can be good for plugging specific
00:56:23.220
holes. For example, the things that are happening within the room where you're counting probably
00:56:29.020
get some direct observation, probably have some cameras. But I don't think there's anybody who
00:56:33.860
believes that these alone, the cameras and the direct observation, given how limited that is for the
00:56:40.740
entire chain of custody. Is it? Is there anybody who drives around behind the the vans carrying the
00:56:49.140
ballots? Does anybody drive behind those vans to make sure that they, you know, they don't stop and unload
00:56:55.200
anything? There must be massive parts of the process that are not witnessed by two witnesses, wouldn't you
00:57:02.560
say? How about the recount? Will the recount find fraud? No, because if the ballots are fraudulent, you would
00:57:11.840
just count them a second time. So there's nobody who believes. My dog's going crazy downstairs. I might
00:57:21.160
have to go deal with that in a minute. Nobody believes that a recount finds fraud. A recount can only find
00:57:27.980
a specific kind of fraud. Such as, uh, can you hear that? My dog is going crazy downstairs. And so I
00:57:38.920
either have an intruder or something. I don't know what's going on down there. But so a recount won't
00:57:45.440
detect fraud. It would only detect a very specific kind. How about an audit? So an audit is more than a
00:57:53.460
recount. We don't do audits. Could an audit find problems in the system? I think it could, but we
00:58:02.760
don't do them. We do an audit in a very small way, uh, similar to the IRS. If the IRS calls you and says,
00:58:11.260
we're going to audit you, do they audit everything that your tax returns claim? No, no. Even an auditor
00:58:19.880
from the IRS only looks at a certain question. They might say, ah, there was a red flag on your
00:58:25.640
return. We're going to look at that question. But they're not going to open up your entire return.
00:58:31.300
I suppose they might if they saw some major fraud, but that's not the intention. They're looking at
00:58:35.980
just the question. Likewise, an audit of an election process at most is going to look at a specific
00:58:44.000
question. Is there anybody who's going to be double checking the, uh, software line by line in the
00:58:51.320
election system? No, no, nobody's going to check the code. That's not happening. Have you heard that
00:58:58.980
happening? If they don't check the software, have they really done an audit? Not really. So I would say
00:59:06.500
that anybody who tells you there's something like an election audit happening, that's more untrue than
00:59:13.880
true. It might be that they've audited some specific questions. Doesn't mean they're auditing
00:59:19.500
everything. How about lawsuits? You file a lawsuit, then you've got discovery, and you know, you can
00:59:26.520
really dig into the details. Could a lawsuit find irregularities? Well, it turns out there's a problem
00:59:34.320
because you can't follow the, you can't file the lawsuit unless you have evidence. And you can't get
00:59:41.380
evidence with a recount, you can't get it with an audit, and you can't necessarily get it with direct
00:59:48.380
observation or cameras. So how can you file a lawsuit if you don't have any evidence and you don't have
00:59:55.540
any way to get it? Because the system is not designed to present it. It's just not there. So you can, you
01:00:04.500
know, you can do things around the margins, but you would expect to have a situation like the Trump
01:00:10.820
legal team. You'd expect 26 out of 27 lawsuits to be tossed out because the court says, uh, where's your
01:00:19.100
evidence? I can't get it. I can't get the evidence. So I can't even get the process started because I can't
01:00:27.900
get the evidence. But what about data irregularities? Do you think you could prove election fraud with
01:00:36.040
data irregularities? Well, maybe. And I've been telling you for some time now that you would see
01:00:45.840
evidence that would convince you that there was fraud. The, the evidence that I think would be the
01:00:52.820
convincing stuff is the data irregularities. But as we saw with the Wisconsin tweet that I talked
01:00:59.580
about, do you trust anybody's data yet? Nope, you don't. Almost every claim we've seen about the
01:01:08.180
election, pretty much every claim, has turned out to be false. And it doesn't even matter who's making
01:01:15.280
it, Democrat, Republican. It feels like just about every claim about the election has turned out to be
01:01:21.400
false. So eventually, given time, I think the data irregularities can be found. So this is probably
01:01:32.060
the only place you could find fraud. Now, if you found it here, that might give you cause for a
01:01:38.280
lawsuit, which might allow you to dig into things and, you know, maybe, maybe find something. But
01:01:44.220
the data irregularities we probably will not find, uh, or at least will not be confident of until the
01:01:50.940
whole Biden process is done. So here's where I think we're going to be at some point in the future.
01:01:57.520
And I got in trouble for saying, I think it would be in two weeks. So I'm going to take the deadline
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away from it because I got myself in trouble with a deadline because I'd just be guessing on deadline.
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Eventually, the data irregularities will make the case as convincingly as I think the, uh,
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Kennedy-Nixon election. And then what do you do? Then what do you do? Now, there's one other
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phenomenon I haven't seen anybody talk about that I'm going to add to the conversation and it's going
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to make you mad and you're going to realize it's true. Let's say there was some evidence.
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We got 220 sworn statements, right? So that suggests that maybe the direct observation and
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the witnesses worked to some degree. So let's say of those 220, they can put together a dozen good
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lawsuits. And let's say that they're all pretty valid. You've got a witness, maybe after that you
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could get some documentation to demonstrate it's true. Maybe the cameras show it too. And then you
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take this to a judge and you say, I got it now. Now we found this, uh, this source of a problem.
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Let's say we found that, uh, a nursing home had sent in a hundred ballots, but none of the actual
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residents are aware that they voted. So you say, ha ha, gotcha. We, we found that you use this
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senior center to harvest votes. You just took them out of the mailbox, you filled them out yourself and
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sent them in. So I'm going to make a lawsuit about that. I'm going to take it to court.
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Gotcha. What does the judge say? Does the judge say, show me your evidence? Nope. Because the judge
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doesn't care because the judge at first asks you, how many votes are we talking about? And you say,
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well, I got a hundred votes. There were a hundred people who will swear they didn't vote. And yet their
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vote was registered. And the judge says, ah, so what? If I overturn a hundred votes, it doesn't change
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the election. Get out of here. So if you don't find it all, you can't do anything about it. So you
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could find a lot of it, but if you only find chunks of it, here's a chunk, here's a chunk,
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here's a chunk. The chunks are worthless because each chunk doesn't add up enough to change the
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outcome. And so the judge says, there's nothing to work on here. Yeah, I can, you could prove that
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these hundred votes don't count, but it's just this little chunk doesn't change anything. So I'm not
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even going to hear it. So it's sort of a perfect situation. Somebody says that's appealable. Yeah,
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I suppose anything's appealable. Somebody says who here wants to start a civil war? You know, the thing
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that I appreciate about this country is that we're not going to have a civil war. It's just not going
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to happen. And the reason is so simple. You know why we won't have a civil war? Don't want one. That's
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it. That's the whole reason. You have to have somebody want one, right? Nobody wants one. Even
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the militias, they're not looking to start one. I mean, they may independently want to overthrow the
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country or something, but not over the election necessarily. Uh, I just don't think anybody wants
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one. And you would have to have a lot of people wanting one. It just doesn't happen on its own.
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All right. Um, and I would like to say to my Democrat friends who believe that orange Hitler
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was the, was the, was a real thing and believe that the president is a real racist and suggests
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drinking bleach. If you could stop that election and you didn't, you are cowards. You're cowards.
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Because if you didn't cheat in this election, you've got a lot of explaining to do.
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You should be able to tell me you threw the election and you're happy about it because you
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saved the country, in your opinion, saves us from orange Hitler. Wouldn't you be proud of that?
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Well, I would think you would be. All right. I think I may have said everything I want to do.
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Oh, uh, Biden is boring us to death. And, uh, the only other thing I want to say about,
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um, oh, what does anybody think that the Senate race in Georgia is going to be a clean election?
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If, if, if, let's say hypothetically, hypothetically, if Democrats had rigged the presidential election,
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and now we're doing this Senate, uh, special election in Georgia, wouldn't they rig that too?
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And wouldn't they just do it exactly the same way? So we're going to learn something interesting,
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because if both Republicans lose in Georgia, which is what people are not expecting,
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it's going to reopen this question of fraud. And if the Democrats cheated in the main election and got
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away with it, why wouldn't they do it again the same way? If it works, why wouldn't you do it again?
01:07:46.000
Really? Really? Um, so, uh, James Mattis says he hopes Biden gets rid of America first as a concept,
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um, to which I say, now I see why two different presidents fired that guy. Mattis was probably
01:08:04.500
the most overrated general of all times, you know, as it turns out. Uh, I had been a big fan,
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but once you hear him speaking candidly, he doesn't seem even bright. Uh, there's something,
01:08:18.480
there's something going on there. Because if you're an American general and you don't think America
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first, that does not preclude being generous to other countries. Saying America first doesn't mean you
01:08:34.420
screw France. America first doesn't mean you throw Great Britain into the ocean. It means that you
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operate in a enlightened way about self-interest. Um, all right, that's all I got for now. And I'll talk to
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you tomorrow. All right, Periscope's off. YouTubers, you have my full attention.
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Um, somebody said Great Britain is already in the ocean. Okay. Technically, you need to invite
01:09:14.280
Robert Barnes. You know, he'd be a great interview. Robert Barnes would be. But I'm, um, now that I'm
01:09:23.500
doing, uh, live streaming on two platforms, I don't have the technology to do a guest that both of you
01:09:29.900
could hear on YouTube and Periscope at the same time. Um, why do the YouTubers get more time with
01:09:35.860
you? Well, uh, no real reason. Um, how did Stacey Abrams become so important? By doing a good job.
01:09:49.200
Stacey Abrams, is it Abrams? Abrams, right? Stacey Abrams, she's doing something right.
01:09:56.120
I mean, she almost became governor and she's credited with, you know, changing the election
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situation in Georgia. So she's doing something really well. Um, somebody said I should go in the
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Megyn Kelly show. That's a podcast. I would, uh, I'm taking some time off from doing podcasts and stuff,
01:10:20.740
but she would be fun. Do you think vaccine should be mandatory? Uh, I don't think that's possible.
01:10:31.700
Don't think it's possible, but I do think that, um, it will be effectively mandatory. So I don't
01:10:38.840
think the government needs to do it because you saw that Qantas already said you have to have a
01:10:43.100
vaccination to fly in their airlines. I would expect, um, all the airlines to go that way.
01:10:50.180
So I think that if you want to operate in the real world, probably you're going to have to get a
01:10:56.440
vaccination at some point, but I don't know that the government has to do it. I think commerce alone
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would do it. How many hours a day do I work in comics? Um, maybe an average of one or two a day,
01:11:09.800
but I work on weekends too. Is this the golden age? It might be, it might be, you know, the
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coronavirus as horrible as it was and is changed so many things for the better. I think, you know,
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it just forced us to shake the box and rethink everything. So we may be, yeah. Um,
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uh, you love how, yeah, you know, the thing, the thing that everybody does, that's an exaggeration,
01:11:46.400
not everybody, but a lot of people do is they pretend that if you're in a group that you agree
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with everything the group has done. So while it's true that Trump supporters have done X,
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I didn't do X. So why do I get blamed? Why is it my fault if, if I like a president and somebody else
01:12:09.020
likes a president and somebody else kicks a dog and we both like president Trump, why is that my
01:12:16.480
problem? I'm kind of not that person. I'm a different person. 2024 candidates. Well, the obvious ones
01:12:25.760
will be, um, Pompeo, uh, Matt Gaetz. I think you'll see Tom Cotton, maybe Rubio. Yeah. All the usual
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stuff. Um, you're going to write another book. I haven't decided yet. I might. Um, uh, yes. All right.
01:12:53.960
So I'm reading your questions and, uh, it's very boring to watch me read your questions. So I think