Episode 1201 Scott Adams: Watch Me Monetize My Dumbest Critics While Discussing the Election Allegations. Thank You, Critics!
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What would the Pope do about religion? What would he do about the 9/11 pandemic? And would he agree with the Supreme Court who said freedom rules should be applied to travel restrictions? All that and more on this morning s simultaneous sip.
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hey everybody come on in come on in it's the weekend it's sort of a holiday weekend
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simultaneous sip and it happens now go hello belgium nice of you to join us this morning
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well we got a fun one today i saw a survey on the internet a scientific one not a not a twitter
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survey that asked people who would you generally trust to tell you the truth and then they listed
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a number of professions and you would get to choose which of those professions you found
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trustworthy well what was at the top of the list of trustworthy professions was it journalists
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do you think journalists were at the top of the trusted professions no they were not luckily nurses
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doctors doctors and engineers were right at the top of the list wouldn't you want that to be true
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right i mean that's sort of good news right if the people that the public believes are medical
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professionals and engineers and then just stop i'm exaggerating a little bit but how would how good
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would society be if we believed our health care professionals completely you know you got to be a
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little skeptical but you believe them the most and then engineers and then you just stop and everybody
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else you just say ah maybe i don't know i'm not so sure about you i'm willing to go with the health
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care professional and the engineers but i don't know about you so journalists had uh only 23 percent
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thought that they were generally trustworthy now you might say to yourself that seems like a problem
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because journalists are in some ways the gateway to all truth everything that we understand about the world
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seems to come through journalists first you know then it gets turned into history and whatever
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whatever else law you name it but having journalists at the very bottom of the trust
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uh funnel seems like a little bit of a problem but engineers have a 93 percent trust rate i'm kind of a
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hybrid because as a cartoonist i'm closer to a journalist and doing this i'm closer to a journalist than i am to an
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engineer but all of my early uh exposure was working with engineers for years and years so i feel like i
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picked up some of their good habits i like to think i did um correct me if i'm wrong i need a fact check on
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this i think this is true when i talked to you about uh i said i was confused about the religious folks who
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wanted to continue having uh church services in the pandemic and i asked you what would jesus say
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about that would jesus say yeah give me my individual freedom or would jesus say yeah you're gonna have
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your individual freedom but just hold on a little bit take a little sacrifice for your neighbor we'll get
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there you know you're not going to lose your freedom but temporarily gonna ask you to make a sacrifice
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i thought jesus would come down on that side but as you know i'm neither a believer nor a religious
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scholar so i wouldn't i wouldn't follow my own advice on religion that's for sure if i could give
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you any advice don't take my advice on religion i'm the last person you should listen to on that domain
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but didn't the pope agree with me i feel like i saw the story and then i went to research it and
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maybe a little bit ambiguous what he's talking about let me read what the pope said and see if
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he agreed with the supreme court who said freedom rules and go ahead or does he uh agree that maybe
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you should keep the restrictions so the pope says some groups protested refusing to keep their distance
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marching against travel restrictions as if measures that governments must impose for the good of their
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people constitute some kind of political assault or autonomy or autonomy on autonomy or personal freedom
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so it it feels like the pope is pro lockdown and it feels like he would be equally pro lockdown when
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it came to churches is that the way you read it i i read it as the pope is okay with closing churches
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temporarily because it's just a health thing so uh let's just leave that there i've told you before that on cnn
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there are two personalities that are far more uh let's say objective and valuable than the rest of them
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all right so i don't like to be the person who says that some group or or some entity is a hundred percent
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bad right because usually there's something good and something bad about just about everything
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and on cnn there are two shows that i think are very worth watching one is uh smirkanish who is always
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more objective than just about anybody on television he does a really good job at that and the other is
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farid zakaria now farid definitely has tds he's got a bad case of tds but my observation is
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that it seems to be limited to what he believes the president is thinking which is at least you know
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limited so he thinks the president's got some racial ideas he he thinks the president is doing it because
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of racial ideas that part's just tds as far as i can tell but the rest of the things that farid says on
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any other topic are pretty darn good not only uh educational but entertaining and by the way
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i decided yesterday i'm going to make it a habit especially between now and the end of the year
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through the holidays i'm going to intentionally add compliments to people who deserve them and i'm going
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to include compliments to people on the left and the right and it's in the spirit of the holidays
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i'm just going to point out that if somebody even if i disagree with them if they're doing something
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notably good i'm going to call it out just in the spirit of the season so farid is uh does a great
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show but here's what's interesting on his show to uh his most recent show he uh i think he broke it to
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cnn viewers and i don't know if anybody has ever said this clearly so it's the clarity of the story
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that that makes it important it's not that it hasn't ever been discussed but when he puts it in
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clear words which is what he's really really good at i think he woke up the left in a way that they
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hadn't quite been woken up and it goes like this i'm paraphrasing but effectively farid explained
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to the left and i don't know that they knew this most of them that president trump doesn't have to
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do anything to take a second term doesn't need to do anything all he needs to do is enjoy the fact
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that there is great question about the validity of the election he can let his lawyers now that's
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something he's actively doing but he can let the lawyers take the the battle through the courts
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and even even his critics are saying okay okay as long as you're using the courts and you're using
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legal challenges we don't think you're going to prevail but we're not going to complain too much
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about the fact that you're doing it because you're you're within the rules all right so here's the part
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that the left didn't quite understand all you need is doubt and you get the second term of president
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trump there's nothing else you need there's one thing you need period doubt you don't need a court win
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because it can be decided by the legislatures if the legislatures decide they don't have a you know
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a good idea let's put it this way if the legislatures all just say oh yeah we're just going to go with
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the popular vote well then biden becomes president but if there's enough reasonable doubt the legislatures
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might say we don't trust the election it would be the republicans who say that of course and there
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are enough states and the swing states controlled by enough republican legislatures that if they inject
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enough doubt into the electoral process fortunately the founders and the the framers of the constitution
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they allowed for that so that's a that was a known risk and so the process has very clear steps
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oh if you can't make a decision with the electoral college process it moves to the con the house
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the house gets one vote for each state and there are more republican states that's it that's it
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i'm gonna i'm gonna pause this comment so on youtube somebody says stay in your lane scott
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i would like to recommend to you a book called loser think a prominent part of this book is mocking
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people who tell me to stay in my lane do you know i wasn't always a cartoonist no if i'd stayed in my
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lane i wouldn't be a cartoonist if i'd stayed in my lane i would not have one of the most popular
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live stream shows in america stay in your lane is literally i think the dumbest thing anybody's ever
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said you wouldn't have airplanes you wouldn't have airplanes computers technology you wouldn't have
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civilization if people like me stayed in their lane it's leaving the lane they gave you everything
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that you enjoy today all of it a hundred percent of what makes your life good today my lovely critic
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was that people like me don't take your advice if we took your advice we'd be wallowing in mud and
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eating our own feces so um let me continue so farid has made the case clearly in a way i'd never seen
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before that the president doesn't have to do much of anything would you say that the president has
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successfully injected doubt into the election process i actually don't think it was mostly him
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in this case in this case i think the president is following i don't think he's leading on the question
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of election uh election allegations i think he's following his base imagine if you will that the
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republican base had gone through the election and said all right well we don't like the outcome
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but it was fair would president trump be fighting this in court no no he's not leading this he's
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actually going with his base almost as a show of respect the base wants him to fight he's he's got
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this relationship commitment with his base that's unlike anything i've ever seen and i think he just
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feels the obligation i mean he'd like to win of course he probably thinks he was robbed of course
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but i think the driving motivation in the real world is that the base wants them to do it and they
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have a relationship so i think he feels an obligation to to follow it through but as ellie alexander is
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reminding people in his tweets and public work lately that um there might be some primary challenges to
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republicans who don't doubt the outcome of the election so there might be a little risk being
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injected into the system for republicans who thought they had safe seats or maybe it's the ones who are
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closer to not safe but ellie alexander is putting that notion into the universe now in terms of
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persuasion you can't persuade somebody of something that they have they're not familiar with in other
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words if they haven't heard your argument you're not going to persuade them so the first thing you
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have to do is get people a little bit pregnant with an idea that they had not been wrestling with
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up to that point and the idea that ellie alexander is putting into the into the universe and very
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productively i would say if you're a trump supporter and you'd like to see the president prevail this is
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very productive uh persuasion and it's very simple and it has to do with the fact that people can get
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used to things if they wait long enough so all he needs to do to accomplish this bit of persuasion
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is to make you think about it make you talk about it possibly get you to debate it if you see a debate
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on cnn about this concept whether republicans will be primaried he won because that's it if you see on
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cnn or fox news any conversation by any of the talking heads that even bring up the topic all you
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would need is somebody to do what i'm doing right now just talk about it that's it because the first
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time you hear this idea that republicans might get primaried by their own party if they don't if they
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don't you know firm up and be on the same side on this election allegations the first time you hear
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you think well maybe that's a little harsh but the longer you talk about it the longer you think about
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it that thing which struck you as being a little harsh maybe over the line suddenly it starts to
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feel like just reality you might get primaried so i don't know that people will get primaried if they
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don't um you know back the president on this but he has injected that risk where it didn't exist
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before so ali is succeeding that what you're watching is persuasion that unambiguously is
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succeeding whether it succeeds all the way is another question but it's certainly succeeding in
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its you know limited goal so farid is telling the left that the cat might be on the roof meaning
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breaking it to them easy uh getting so freed is doing the same thing he he's introducing an idea
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that this might not go the way the democrats are positive it's going to go and the difference
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between the way the democrats are positive it's going to go in other words biden taking office
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there is nothing obstructing the other path now that's the part that they're going to have to come
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to grips with it would be one thing if farid had said well there's this weird long shot
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other way the things could go but you probably don't have to worry about it because it's a long
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shot there's obstacles and there are things that could stop it but he didn't say that he basically
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drew a picture that's a straight line to trump taking a second term let me ask you this has trump
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succeeded or you don't even have to say trump can you just say it is true that nearly all republicans
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believe the election was stolen right the polls show that the republicans believe it how about
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democrats well according to rasmussen 30 percent of democrats think the election was stolen
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now imagine days go by and rudy and you know jen ellis and the the team and and uh the kraken stuff
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and sydney powell and you just hear more and more stories about allegations and you're a democrat
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and you're one of the democrats who does not already think the election was stolen so you're in the 70
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percent of democrats what happens if you are subjected to a non-stop trickle avalanche rainstorm
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of allegations now you might say to yourself every time i hear one the lawsuit gets thrown in a court
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so i guess they're all bad maybe but that's not really the way brains work your logic might try to
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protect you and say no no those other lawsuits got thrown out and even though those other lawsuits
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used different evidence and made different claims the fact that completely different lawsuits
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with different evidence and different claims the fact that those were rejected certainly makes me feel
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safe that the next one that they have had time to prepare good evidence and make completely different
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kinds of claims well i'm pretty safe that those different lawsuits are going to be failures too
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so that would be your you know your cut your confirmation bias and your pattern recognition
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kicking in and trying to protect yourself but the fact is republicans have a whole bunch of doubt
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about this election there is plenty of evidence that they will consider useful meaning that the data
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anomalies they will believe even if they're not true the sworn testimonies of hundreds of people who said
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they saw frauds republicans are likely to believe even if they're not true so fact aside and court aside
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and science aside our democratic process ish the republic if you will is built on how we feel
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it's not built on the court it's not built on the truth it's not built on science
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our system is expressly specifically built on how we feel by design that's not an accident
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when you vote are you voting the facts well sometimes you think you are but you're not when you vote
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are you voting because of all your logic you might think you are but you're not and i think the founders
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knew that this is an emotional process and the fact that everybody gets to vote and you're all
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encouraged to vote and you have the right to vote that's about your psychology that's about making you feel
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the system was credible it's your feeling it's designed to make you feel the system is credible
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feel that you participated and feel that you're part of it
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the constitution is about what you feel that's it and specifically designed that way it's not an accident
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so if the way this ends up going is that the republicans by a majority feel that the election was stolen
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they have every constitutional right to act on the feeling and they don't have to explain it
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they do not need to go into court and then make their case and prove it to a jury
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that their feelings also match the facts it isn't part of the process and i don't think
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that the framers of the constitution left it out by mistake i think they framed it exactly the way
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they thought they were framing it which is if the legislature and the and the house decide that
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the process they feel doesn't have the confidence of the people they feel they've lost the confidence
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of the people they can try to regain it by using the system as designed and the house to simply vote
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now that story that i just told you to many of you sort of hearing it for the first time sounds
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ridiculous anybody who is already aware of this path which many republicans have been for weeks
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you're a little bit used to it already aren't you think about how you felt the first time you heard
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that trump could win the election without winning the popular vote and without winning the electoral
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college and that it would be perfectly legal and constitutional and it wouldn't even be an aberration
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it would be the way the constitution was designed to work to solve this exact problem
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the exact problem is that there's some doubt about the election and it's a big doubt that's the
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problem it's designed to solve and it will so watch yourself getting used to something that
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shocked you like crazy when you first heard it two weeks later you're thinking yeah that could happen
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why wouldn't that happen keely mackenany uh used the word baseless and threw it back at the uh her at the
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press uh which was very clever because of course the uh the word be the word baseless is being used
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against about the allegations of the election being fraudulent now baseless is a clever persuasion word
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and i have spoken about this when you hear baseless do you say to yourself oh it could be true
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but we haven't seen evidence yet is that how you interpret baseless because that would be
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you know an accurate interpretation but that's not how you you register the word the way your brain
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hears baseless is that we've already looked into it and there's nothing there right it's not what it
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means but that's how your brain interprets it and that's why democrats used like to use that word
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baseless because it it it influences you to think that there won't be anything there no matter how much
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you look suppose they had said something that meant the same thing suppose they had said there nobody has
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produced evidence that will hold up in court about the fraud yet would that be a fair statement
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nobody has produced um uh conclusive evidence of fraud that's big enough to change the election
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yet that would be true right but notice i threw in the word yet what did the word yet make you think
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the word yet makes you think it's going to happen it just hasn't happened yet so yet is a manipulative
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word like baseless but yet manipulates you in the way of thinking well we probably will find it if we keep
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looking baseless says well we probably already looked and it wasn't there see now this is uh but there's not
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much you can do to battle that claim because it's a really good attack using baseless is just really smart
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effective persuasion so what do you do when your enemy uses smart effective persuasion against your
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argument and it just works it just works well one of the things you can do if you're kelly mcenany is
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you can take their freaking word baseless throw it back in their stupid mugs and apply it to the russia
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collusion bullshit and say that you you threw the country into you know almost a paralysis for three
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and a half years you the democrats on a quote as she repeated at least twice baseless accusations
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about russia collusion baseless i say now what do the democrats say when kaylee mcenany calls russia
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collusion baseless yeah they got the same problem don't they they got a problem because they're going
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to argue well it wasn't baseless we had a reason and then what would kaylee mcenany say i'm i'm just
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just doing a mental thing here what could she say hypothetically uh well basically the let me short
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short circuit this everything that they're saying about and all the words being used about
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fraud allegations in the election apply almost perfectly to the russia core uh the russia
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collusion hoax and so she's pointing out their hypocrisy and doing a great job about it and it's also
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funny it's just sort of funny so i've decided that one of kaylee mcenany's signatures which makes her a
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perfect uh a perfect uh a perfect hire for trump is that the things she does are effective but
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they're always a little bit funny that there's always that little extra x factor and this is one
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of those examples because using their word baseless and throwing it in their face on a different topic
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to make them realize that the word itself is illegitimate they either have to call her on using the
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word or they have to admit that when they use it it's illegitimate and they can't so it's a good trap
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which is funny it doesn't change anything it's just kind of funny so she's sort of perfect for trump
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um so i discovered a way to monetize the stupidity of my critics uh and of course i did that with dilbert
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because dilbert was largely mocking you know bad managers and and things like that now they're not
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necessarily critics but i did figure out how to monetize uh bad managers by the dilbert comics
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draft but i've somewhat accidentally slid and this was no plan or anything i just sort of ended up here
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through trial and error so i'm going to turn one of my critics into content right now in front of you
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i'll change stupidity and criticism into content which will amuse and entertain you and uh i believe
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i'll get ad revenue on youtube when you watch it so i'm literally going to monetize this freaking idiot
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critic that i'm going to talk about right now all right now i laid a trap yesterday which was not
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planned in advance but when i did it accidentally i decided to keep it because it was so delightful
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completely accidental but it still formed a trap and here's what it is i'll read the tweet
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and we'll talk about it i said extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof now that's a
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carl sagan truism right so we have bumper sticker brains so when we recognize little sayings
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that seem to be true they're very persuasive it's like oh there's a saying well if there's a saying
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then it must be true there's no logic to it but our brains work that way so this this saying that
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extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof has been out in the world for decades and so most
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people just think well yeah that makes sense and it does um and then i go on and i say democrats
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make the extraordinary claim all right now see if you think this is an extraordinary claim
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that democrats are making that despite sky-high motivation and plenty of opportunity to cheat in the
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election that they didn't do it how how extraordinary would it be if you let's say took a pile of money
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cash and left it on the street of a crime ridden inner city how extraordinary would it be if you came back
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in a week and it was all there that nobody took any that'd be pretty extraordinary wouldn't it
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right so where you have the opportunity and sky-high motivation for a crime how often does it not happen
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zero zero zero times there are zero times that you have a gigantic motivation orange hitler we must
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stop him and you have lots of opportunity because at the very least um giuliani has shown that there's
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lots of places they could have cheated so long as you can control the witnesses right if you couldn't
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control the witnesses it'd be harder to you know to steal an election because they'd be watching
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everything but we do know and nobody doubts this the democrats did control the witnessing process
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and limited it i feel like everybody agrees that happened there's a disagreement about how important it was
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but nobody questions that it happened i haven't seen any pushback on it at all
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and so in a situation where you've got effectively a pile of money sitting in the street in a high crime
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neighborhood how much proof do i need that it got stolen a year later do you think i would need to prove
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it i don't think so i would say that the logic of the situation dictates that that money's gone
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wrong now is anything in this life a hundred percent no not really i mean nothing is a hundred percent
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even if you think it is now even even newton was a little bit wrong on gravity right so einstein
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cleared it up a little bit so you can be a little bit wrong on things that you're really right about
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nothing's a hundred percent but uh there are things that we can treat as true because they're so likely
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to be true let's go on now the trap was and if you didn't spot it the trap was that i knew that
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these smart dumb people would say ha ha ha ha ha scott you can't prove a negative in other words
00:32:39.300
you can't prove uh you can't prove that something happened because you have no evidence right if
00:32:46.200
there's no evidence of a thing happening or not happening you can't prove anything so i knew people
00:32:51.880
would come in and say you can't prove a negative so alex leo an ex vp of daily beast she comes in to
00:33:00.380
school me and she says this if that's how this works now i'm gonna need you to prove you don't
00:33:07.340
molest animals scott i've heard you do and the extraordinary claim that you're a sane rational
00:33:14.240
non-molester needs serious evidence all right so here are the smart dumb people now what i mean by a
00:33:21.280
smart dumb person is they're smart enough to know that there's a bumper sticker saying that you can't
00:33:28.400
prove a negative so they're smart enough to know that but they're not smart enough to apply that to
00:33:35.940
the situation and also understand if there's an exception involved so they're smart but they're dumb
00:33:43.320
they're too dumb to use what they're smart enough to know here's my argument can you prove a negative
00:33:51.260
people you're all very brilliant i know you're above average if you're watching this live stream
00:33:56.720
can you prove a negative well the first thing you should ask me is prove it to whom can you prove it in
00:34:06.060
court or can you prove it in a scientific way because those are not really the same right the
00:34:12.900
burden of proof in a court case versus what a scientist would do those are different so the
00:34:18.680
first thing you have to ask is well can you prove a negative in science can you prove a negative in court
00:34:27.040
but can you prove a negative to the satisfaction of the public which would be the third domain right
00:34:34.700
if i could prove it in a way that i convince you that can have real world utility that's a real
00:34:42.220
thing i could make a case and convince you in public that it's true effectively proving it even if it's not
00:34:50.720
true so let me give you an example if you thought a minute ago that you can't prove a negative let me give
00:34:59.940
you uh an example suppose you had a rock in your hand and you're standing next to a cliff and you
00:35:09.080
take that rock and you hold it behind you where you can't see it and you let it go and you also know
00:35:15.680
that there's nobody else around because you went up to the top of the mountain by yourself and you can
00:35:19.960
see you lots of visibility you're you're all alone and you took your rock in your hand and you held it
00:35:25.600
behind you where you can't see it and you let go of it can you prove that the rock fell
00:35:34.280
you don't have any witnesses you don't have any documentation you don't have a video of it
00:35:42.720
you don't have any proof all you know is that the situation you created guarantees the result
00:35:51.800
is that proof because maybe that's an anti-gravity pocket in the universe it just happened to be
00:36:00.180
where your hand was maybe an alien comes out of the air with a tractor beam and focuses on the rock
00:36:06.680
and pulls it into space i mean maybe it didn't fall but in the real world the rock fell and it fell
00:36:16.000
every time but you can't prove it the only thing you know is that you created a situation
00:36:21.980
in which it's only going to go one way so back to my situation can you prove a negative yes you can
00:36:32.860
you can prove it in a million different ways in the real world can you always prove can you always
00:36:39.060
prove a negative in a scientific realm i don't know i don't care i'm not talking about a scientific realm
00:36:44.980
can you always prove a negative in a courtroom situation i don't know i don't care i'm not
00:36:52.280
talking about that the only thing that matters as farid zacario has explained now to the left
00:36:59.680
is whether the public believes it can you prove to the public
00:37:05.520
there's something you didn't see and didn't witness although there are plenty of witnesses i'm just
00:37:11.560
talking hypothetically could you prove there's something that had to happen happened so let me
00:37:18.080
tell you we know that the election was not secure and there were lots of opportunities to cheat
00:37:24.280
so long as you controlled the witnesses which we know happened and you had sky-high motivation
00:37:33.480
and sky-high things to gain lots of people involved what are the odds that it wasn't stolen close to zero
00:37:45.020
close to zero because that setup should guarantee that you get a stolen election every time and so i
00:37:53.140
would say to you well you can't prove an election was stolen maybe that's possible maybe it can't be
00:38:00.160
proven but can you convince republicans that with that setup it had to be stolen or at the very least
00:38:10.500
you can have no confidence that it wasn't stolen and i believe that having no confidence in the result
00:38:20.480
even if it wasn't stolen if you've got no confidence in it because of the nature of the way it was set up
00:38:28.020
you have a constitutional remedy that's crystal clear it ends up in the house and you get a second
00:38:37.540
term of president trump so to my critic ex-vp of daily beast and alex leo you're smart enough to know
00:38:46.600
that there's a bumper sticker that says you can't prove a negative but you're not smart enough to know
00:38:51.840
how any of it works in the real world and that there's nothing that's a hundred percent but you
00:38:58.360
can certainly make a case all right so here's here's the other thing that uh my critics do that i find
00:39:08.440
absolutely hilarious they if they make a comment and i respond to it just respond to it so somebody
00:39:18.400
insults me or makes a charge and i tweet back a response just one response what do the uh the bad
00:39:27.000
trolls pile in and say after that oh i triggered you i triggered you now and i'll be like um i get
00:39:37.000
insulted on twitter once every five minutes and during my entire career i have been deeply insulted by a
00:39:46.140
stranger every five minutes for approximately 32 years i think i mean my entire experience is
00:39:54.980
strangers insulting me all day long but in their minds this one is the one that triggered me
00:40:03.000
i literally treat critics as entertainment and now you know part of my business model i could not be
00:40:10.920
less concerned with somebody you know some rando critic on uh on twitter but then then you get oh she's
00:40:20.800
living in your head rent free and i'm thinking no nothing like that's happening um all right
00:40:31.080
so newt gingrich adds a little bit of context for us with this tweet he says the more data that comes
00:40:41.460
out on vote anomalies that clearly are not legitimate says newt the more it looks like 2020 may be the
00:40:49.440
biggest presidential theft since adams and clay robbed andrew jackson in 1824
00:40:56.480
so i'm not a big history buff did you even know that according to historians it's just a fact i guess
00:41:10.900
because newt's a historian it's a fact that adams and clay robbed andrew jackson in 1824 did you even
00:41:18.760
know that um all right so that's my relative maybe allegedly all right uh
00:41:31.980
oh you're seeing the news there's some fake news that's uh cnn's playing up big i think fox news is
00:41:42.460
playing it too that there's somebody out in the world suggesting republicans boycott the
00:41:48.740
senatorial general uh the special election in georgia and remember what the first time i heard that
00:41:55.720
and and people on social media were saying oh yeah ali alexander is saying that what did i tell you
00:42:02.080
when a whole bunch of you said that ali alexander was saying we should boycott the election i said to you
00:42:10.280
with no evidence no proof no court case no science i said that didn't happen and a dozen
00:42:18.720
of you were like oh yeah he said it i saw it myself i witnessed it he absolutely said it it took
00:42:24.520
about a minute and a half after the live stream was over to validate that he did not say that and does
00:42:31.220
not want you to boycott the election very much does not want you to boycott the election in fact
00:42:37.300
opposite of that now wherever the hell you got that i don't know uh i don't know if you were talking
00:42:43.580
about the primary getting primaried or he got confused or what but here's what the fake news
00:42:50.420
is doing to you it's the same play that uh rudy giuliani is doing which is getting you used to
00:42:58.220
something before it happens they're they're sort of breaking you in getting you a little do a little
00:43:04.860
stretching better get used to this and that is the idea that there's some republican calling for a
00:43:13.360
boycott so now cnn is reporting this again and it reports uh trump rejects boycott calls in georgia
00:43:21.340
runoff so wouldn't you think that if you saw the headline trump rejects boycott calls wouldn't that
00:43:30.140
headline point to a link to show you who it was who is asking for a boycott but it doesn't right it's
00:43:39.600
a story about republicans calling for a boycott without any evidence or link to republicans calling
00:43:48.600
for a boycott do you know why there's no link to republicans calling for a boycott because there are
00:43:56.180
no republicans calling for a boycott no no there's no there are no republicans calling for a boycott
00:44:04.720
right they just want you to put get that in your head so maybe it'll become a thing so cnn is trying
00:44:11.500
to create a boycott by telling you that trump has rejected a boycott which puts boycott in your head
00:44:18.700
now you're all smart enough to know you're being played right nobody wants a boycott
00:44:24.980
okay so here's something i've done before but i think it's it's funny so i'm going to do it again
00:44:32.260
i want to take you through the the evolution of the democrat uh statements and arguments about the
00:44:38.880
election allegations of fraud all right day one you're you're all we think your election was
00:44:45.100
fraudulent say the republicans so the democrats sort of as one said some version of this there was no
00:44:53.780
fraud it isn't even possible to cheat not only was there no fraud but it's not even possible
00:45:01.580
wasn't that the first thing that every democrat said then some evidence started to or at least
00:45:10.760
allegations of evidence started to surface and then the story softened a little bit and it turned
00:45:17.240
from there was no no fraud and it's not possible to okay there was some fraud but no one is alleging
00:45:24.360
that there was enough fraud to change the election so just let it go and then it turned into
00:45:31.820
okay there might be you know okay we understand now that the allegations uh are not that it is
00:45:39.900
oh so i'm sorry i skipped one okay there might be some fraud but the but the but it's not widespread
00:45:46.920
so it went from there's none to okay there's a little fraud but it's not widespread and then of
00:45:55.120
course republicans explained that the accusation was not that it was widespread but rather that it was
00:46:00.760
focused in the swing states and very targeted eventually that message got through and the
00:46:06.340
the democrats response evolved a little bit more and now it turned then it turned into all right
00:46:13.120
okay we understand that the allegations are not that it was widespread but rather targeted in swing
00:46:19.620
states but you keep moving the goal posts i mean before you said it's widespread now you're saying it's
00:46:26.540
targeted moving the goal posts you're moving the goal posts except nobody moved the goal posts
00:46:33.960
it was always that it was targeted at the places where it mattered but it's still baseless still
00:46:41.220
baseless you move the goal posts and it's baseless you know people who move the goal posts
00:46:47.500
you know there's they don't have an argument all right so then it evolved to
00:46:54.320
it evolved to okay okay all right trump's lawyers are now alleging that there's enough fraud
00:47:02.820
that would change the election okay okay we'll give you that there there are enough allegations
00:47:07.980
that if they were true it would change the elections um but it's not been proven in court
00:47:14.120
not been proven not been proven in court and then that evolved into okay okay you have hundreds of
00:47:23.240
witnesses and you've got tons of data analysis showing anomalous results in swing state cities
00:47:30.640
you've got sky high motivation to cheat and lots of opportunity but it hasn't been proven
00:47:36.940
so while these things are true lots of witnesses hundreds of them
00:47:42.340
a fraud tons of data analysis that looks pretty solid
00:47:46.400
and lots of opportunity and motivation but it hasn't been proven
00:47:50.980
and then related to that is well trump lost whatever the number is today 38 lawsuits in a row
00:47:59.620
i'm just making that up i think that's in the neighborhood though he lost 38 lawsuits in a row
00:48:04.840
you know and if he lost 38 lawsuits in a row i mean that's all you need to know right
00:48:15.680
and then uh here's a little factoid for you that uh robert barnes attorney robert barnes said he said
00:48:26.780
prior to the supreme court decision on bush verse gore every federal court and every state supreme court
00:48:35.480
had ruled for gore over bush every time until the supreme court and then it reversed
00:48:44.380
so as uh robert barnes points out he says the election contests only start next week
00:48:52.900
because all the early stuff just sort of doesn't count it's all about getting to the supreme court
00:48:59.960
and it looks like they will so if you thought that any of those uh minor court lawsuits getting tossed
00:49:07.360
down mattered they don't not only that but there were different claims with different evidence or
00:49:16.960
as the judge would say lack of evidence so does history repeat if the situation is different
00:49:24.120
the whole point of history repeating is it's got to be the same situation
00:49:28.200
but democrats have decided that history repeats when the thing that's repeating doesn't have any
00:49:35.340
correlation except in words they're both called lawsuits i guess to the two things and they still
00:49:42.340
think history is going to repeat that's not logical these are just different things one does not predict
00:49:48.860
the other no matter how many lawsuits are ever lost uh in a court that doesn't mean the next one's
00:49:58.160
going to lose they're not connected they're different lawsuits all right now of course i think democrats may
00:50:06.120
be starting to realize and i think janna ellis said this too some version of this i'm going to use my
00:50:11.540
own words for it so don't blame her if this is wrong but um that the lawsuits were really about keeping
00:50:18.300
the argument alive and stalling and trying to get some delay on the certification of the vote
00:50:25.700
so when the democrats say hey you were just flailing with these weak cases i don't think the republicans
00:50:33.300
disagree with that they wouldn't use the word flailing but i don't think they disagree that they
00:50:39.640
were these were weak quickly prepared cases that were just thrown into the system it's just that the
00:50:46.220
strategy was not to win those the strategy was to inject a doubt maybe get a delay keep the argument
00:50:53.760
alive in the mind of the public make it make it look like there's lots of smoke so there must be fire
00:50:59.780
did it accomplish those things well it certainly accomplished the latter which is make you think
00:51:05.760
there's a lot going on all right um so here's where i think they are today so i think they've evolved
00:51:15.440
all the way from there was no fluoride and it's not even possible they've evolved all the way okay okay
00:51:22.160
history doesn't repeat in terms of these lawsuits that's true um if it's if they're different kinds
00:51:30.960
of suits and sure trump lawyers have hundreds of witnesses tons of data analysis showing anomalous
00:51:37.060
results in swing states they've got sky high motivation and lots of opportunity but i don't
00:51:43.200
see you citing any proof so this is the one that happened today somebody on social media alleged the
00:51:50.300
election was fraudulent and a democrat said you're not citing any proof so it went from there is no
00:51:59.360
proof no it went from it didn't happen to there's no proof to you're not citing the proof that's a big
00:52:08.980
difference from it's impossible to you haven't shown me the or there is no proof to you're not citing it in
00:52:17.180
your tweet because you know they're tweets you don't really cite a lot of evidence uh although you
00:52:25.420
could and you should all right uh here are some of the uh the mistakes of logic that they're making
00:52:35.500
which i talk about in my book loser think which you should buy as a gift for somebody you love for
00:52:41.480
christmas it's available everywhere the books are sold and on page 143 i talk about a thing called
00:52:47.560
word thinking where you try to use words to convince people that there is an argument but it's really
00:52:54.580
just a combination of words so for example the word baseless which i've talked about is trying to make
00:53:01.220
an argument by word choice there's no argument they're trying to make you think there is just by the
00:53:08.860
choice of words baseless and widespread um and then on page 67 of loser think is the idea that history
00:53:19.780
doesn't repeat especially if the situation is different and it's always different so these lawsuits
00:53:26.660
uh are obviously don't predict the bad ones don't predict what happens with the later ones and then of
00:53:32.580
course there's plenty of straw man straw manning going on here that is so common and dumb i didn't
00:53:39.620
even include it in my book about bad thinking the the straw man idea where somebody makes a claim a
00:53:47.260
and instead of defending against claim a you just act as if they said claim b and you defend that because
00:53:54.760
it's easier to defend that's straw manning you're just pretending somebody said something else
00:54:00.060
so you can defend the other thing because you can't defend the actual thing so that's what the
00:54:05.000
widespread thing is so the claim is that there's specific fraud in just the right places and what
00:54:11.060
they say when they defend is like well there's no widespread there's no widespread claim so that's
00:54:17.100
just straw manning by changing the argument all right um let us look um oh here's another thing that
00:54:27.120
robert barnes said by the way you should follow him on twitter if if you're looking to follow an
00:54:33.300
attorney who actually is just not crazy uh he would be the one all right um he tweeted how did democrats
00:54:44.940
kick kanye west off the ballot in his home state so kanye west was kicked off the ballot in his home state
00:54:53.200
uh minnesota right by demanding and the answer is that by demanding a strict signature match so i guess
00:55:00.480
there wasn't good signature matching on kanye's you know uh uh what was it the petitions to get on the
00:55:09.220
ballot so he got not allowed but then after he's disallowed by strict signature matching they decide that
00:55:18.500
the actual election they will turn off the strict signature matching so so kanye is taken off the
00:55:27.500
ballot using a rule and then they change the rule to run the actual election there's no justification
00:55:35.500
for change in that rule if the election process requires strict signature matching it's a good idea
00:55:43.240
when you're you know when you've got a petition it's a good idea in the primaries and it's a good
00:55:48.400
idea in the election so all right um here let me put this in context do you think that the will of the
00:55:58.380
people is important in our system well you'd say of course we vote even if we argue about the vote
00:56:05.440
sometimes generally speaking you know we we get the thing we want it's the will of the people it's
00:56:11.180
basically a democracy even though it has lots of awards but let's let's look at this presidential
00:56:16.600
election and i'm going to put some some numbers on stuff just to uh explain the concept but the numbers
00:56:24.640
i'm putting on things are just being pulled out of the air okay so let me ask you this do you think that
00:56:32.260
social media uh collectively and its choice of who to promote and who to boost and who to suppress
00:56:40.320
how much of a percentage change in the election result do you think that the that all of the
00:56:46.740
social media mechanisms caused well we don't know but i'm going to put a number on it just to
00:56:53.720
complete an argument so don't don't argue too much about whether this number is right just just wait for
00:56:59.600
the fuller argument okay i'll say i'll say five percent all right i've seen bigger estimates i see them
00:57:05.860
in the comments you're saying 17 10 to 15 20 but just for argument i'll take a modest number i feel
00:57:13.860
like you would all agree that's at least five percent i mean is there any smart person in the world today
00:57:20.320
who would argue that the social media decisions didn't move the election five percent i don't think
00:57:27.180
anybody would make that argument today they might argue at 17 but i don't think even democrats would
00:57:33.840
argue five percent would argue five percent would they so let's let's put a pin in that so let's say
00:57:38.900
the social media moved at five percent and of course would have moved at five percent toward biden how about
00:57:45.780
the fake news does the fact that we just saw a survey that showed that democrats actually haven't seen a lot
00:57:56.860
of the news haven't seen stuff about hunter biden haven't seen allegations about tara reid and all
00:58:03.840
that if you put together all of the the hoaxes the the drinking bleach hoax the fine people hoax and then
00:58:11.760
all the news that they don't even show how much as a percentage and again these are just more conceptual
00:58:19.040
percentages there's no real science here um how much do you think that cumulatively moved the needle
00:58:27.120
now of course you've got fox news very powerful entity you know persuading in the other direction
00:58:32.900
but i would say that this that the fake news probably i'm going to say five percent now i see bigger
00:58:39.420
estimates in the comments 20 35 75 i don't doubt your numbers so i'm not going to say that your estimate
00:58:48.040
that it moved is 75 i'm not going to say that's wrong i'm just going to stay a modest number
00:58:55.460
to make a larger point all right say say five percent how about um rule changes how many rule
00:59:04.800
or law changes did we see just before the election well the one i talked about uh robert barnes talked
00:59:12.020
about a rule change that kicked kanye off the ballot had he been on the ballot would it have changed the
00:59:19.220
election i think so what about changes to having uh unsolicited mail-in ballots sent to everybody
00:59:28.800
that was a rule change right how much did that affect things well we knew that democrats would be more
00:59:36.320
likely mail-in ballot people and we knew that republicans were more uh vote-in-person people
00:59:43.480
so i think every expert would agree that if you look at the cumulative number of rule changes about
00:59:51.820
signature matching and uh where witnesses can be and where they can stand and um you know there were
00:59:59.220
decisions made by uh judges that should have been legislators if you just just take all of those
01:00:05.460
rule changes together how much did they move the election well i'll be modest again i'll say five
01:00:11.800
percent again because i don't know i mean could it be more i'll just say five percent all right so how
01:00:18.980
much did covid change the outcome now in one way it changed it is that caused some of the rule changes
01:00:26.520
such as unsolicited mail-in ballots but how much did it change it beyond that how many people didn't
01:00:33.860
vote because they didn't want to take a risk you know people who didn't want to mail-in ballot but
01:00:39.880
they were afraid of going in person we don't know but i would say that um it probably changed things
01:00:47.300
i mean it probably had some effect right so how much did fraud change the election well some of you
01:00:56.080
are going to say 100 you know it flipped the result some of you are going to say well it's there's some
01:01:02.400
but maybe not enough to change the election in my opinion it's at least five percent just subjective
01:01:10.220
just an opinion don't ask me to prove it i'm just saying that i live in the real world and when you
01:01:16.040
see a situation that looks like this one where you have all the opportunity in the world to cheat
01:01:21.220
plenty of opportunity as long as you can control the witnesses which is true and sky high motivation
01:01:28.520
to do it like just through the roof motivation you're going to get at least five percent fraud
01:01:35.180
i mean i would estimate massive fraud but it's at least five percent all right so let's take these
01:01:43.740
together so again i'm taking the low end of what i think most of you think could be much bigger impacts
01:01:50.940
but let's look at them together social media maybe move things five percent fake news five percent
01:01:56.520
rule changes five percent covid i don't know maybe another five percent fraud maybe five percent
01:02:04.240
now if you add all these together uh how many did you get here uh five ten fifteen twenty twenty five percent
01:02:13.320
and most of that movement would be toward biden how much did the will of the people
01:02:21.300
factor into this election zero zero now you could argue that the will of the people had to at least
01:02:32.340
get within striking distance like it had to be a close ish election for the will of the people to be
01:02:39.360
completely irrelevant right so i guess in some sense you we at least got it to a tie so in some
01:02:46.460
hypothetical theoretical sense then the people's will made some difference but the total amount that the vote
01:02:53.720
changes we're talking about this you know two three percent thing but we've got probably at least
01:03:00.640
25 percent impact of things that had nothing to do with the will of the people that are completely
01:03:07.700
unrelated so do we even have a democracy no no no we don't it's not even close we're not even in
01:03:19.600
the same universe as a democracy or a republic you know whatever i say democracy about the united
01:03:27.060
united states you're all smart enough to translate that into your mind right we're a republic with
01:03:32.220
democratic elements to our our system um yeah we're not even close but here's the weird thing
01:03:41.140
are you okay with it now you're not okay with the result so a lot of you are not okay with the outcome
01:03:49.760
but are you okay with the fact that we live in a country that is not even close to a democracy in
01:03:58.740
terms of presidential elections not even close we're not anywhere near it well weirdly we all complain
01:04:07.080
about it and none of us are okay with it in terms of the outcome but we kind of do accept it
01:04:13.100
remember this rule that uh it sounds so trivial but it explains so much of life you can get used to
01:04:21.700
anything you can get used to anything and we live in a system that's not even close to a democracy
01:04:28.900
or republic while we all want that and we just sort of got used to it now part of how you can get used
01:04:38.700
to it is sort of understanding that as newt gingrich says there probably has been mischief forever
01:04:45.480
probably there's never been an election that was as fair as it needed to be probably we've never had
01:04:54.080
the system that we thought we did that we were taught in school it probably never existed but what
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changed is now you know it and what changed is that the fake news and social media um became more
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powerful so it's even more obvious that it was never what you thought it was it's just more obvious
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but it's probably not that different in terms so let me ask you this if our system is as i say
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not a democracy but rather is a competition between oligarchs is that worse if you had a choice of a
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benevolent dictator or a very flawed democracy where the wrong person could get elected which one's a
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better system if you could if you knew and of course this is the hard part because you can't
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guarantee that a dictator is benevolent and absolute power corrupts so it's a tough tough deal but if you
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could get it you know if there were any way that that's possible and i think it's basically not but if
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it were possible that would be a better system than a democracy as long as the people you know like
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their system and weren't complaining about it but what about the system we actually do have
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it's not a democracy it's not any kind of a dictatorship clearly but it's definitely uh a war
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between oligarchs and persuaders there's this hidden underground war of their you know now you've got the
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data analysts who are coming in like an infantry you know the republicans send in the data analysts
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it's just like a war you know they said all right you know we got the tanks over here we better call in
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air support over here got the data analysts move the data analysts in we got the money people all
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right bring in the billionaires then the billionaires you know compete with fighting and say all right
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bring in the networks networks come online and the networks come in and fox news fight cnn and stuff
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like that but the our process is now maybe 20 rich people fighting it out for control it's 20 rich people
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fighting it out for control that is our system is it worse than like an actual democracy probably not
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i'm not i'm just noting that you don't live in the reality that you hope to live in i don't know if
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it's worse because isn't the united states doing pretty well i mean compared to other countries
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and hasn't our system really realistically it's always been this battle of 20 20 powerful people
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and then they decide based on their little battle who it is that the public thinks is president
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that's kind of what's going on i don't know if it's any different than it's ever been
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and so i'm not going to complain about it because all of our systems have flaws
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but it is useful to know something more about your reality
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um i don't remember if i said this or i thought i said it but i'd asked the other day whether it was
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possible to create a voting app or a voting system that is you know credible and free from fraud
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and a lot of smart people said no that we don't have the technology to do that i vehemently disagree
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i believe that if you assemble the various technologies that do exist we already have
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everything we need blockchain being you know one component
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as smart people have said you need to not just check that the vote happened the way the person voted
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you need to also be able to check that the person voting is the person you want to vote
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and that they have the the right to vote you can do all that i believe that's completely doable
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all right best periscope ever thank you i i don't know that it was but i always like to hear that
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somebody says a representative democracy is an oligarchy kind of is isn't it yeah yeah a
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representative democracy but at least in theory the oligarchs would be ones you voted for but in
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reality voters don't have that much effect on the presidency today
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somebody says you don't need blockchain i i believe that too i think you don't need blockchain
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uh i'm not as well informed to know but why would you need blockchain
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if you could just audit your own vote if after you voted and you know the election's done and
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certified you can just check your app and it shows you the vote on the database and you know it got
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there would you need blockchain i don't know i feel as if you could get there without it but i'm not
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the expert all right um somebody says the uh farid zikario video is from september
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interesting but it's on social media recently so if it gets so if that's true and it probably is
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see that i wouldn't doubt that at all um but the so if you want to modify in your head what i said
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about farid the only thing you change is that it's new information to his crowd i've got a feeling
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that they are not hearing that because when they argue about it they don't act like they know that
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path is there and i think what's also new is that if it's true that it's from september and it probably
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is um when farid was first saying it it probably sounded really uh theoretical but if you fast forward
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from september to today does it sound theoretical because now you can observe that the president's
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attorneys have succeeded in convincing at least the republican public that it was fraudulent do you
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think that didn't affect the republican politicians no if the republican public thinks the election was
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stolen the politicians kind of need to think that too even if they don't think it they're going to
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have to agree with their base on that it's too important somebody says mcconnell and graham got
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thousands of illegal votes well the thing that you will never catch me doing is acting like fraud could
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only happen on one side but i am wondering why we're not hearing accusations from democrats that
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republicans also did some fraud so there's another dog that's not barking do you hear it where are the
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democrats who normally just throw back whatever accusation you throw at them right i mean it works
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both ways if anybody accuses anybody of anything the other side in five seconds will say well you're
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doing it you did it last year we're just doing what you did though so are you a little bit curious
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that the most obvious thing that should be happening now is the democrats saying you say we stole the
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election yet what about your republican controlled towns what about them they're stealing elections
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i've got witnesses where are those because there's a trap there right if the if the democrats decided
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that they would say hey you guys are cheating too then then trump becomes president because if the
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democrats think there was cheating and the republicans think there was cheating and we don't know the net
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of the cheating the election doesn't get certified the house votes and trump gets a second term
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so the democrats even if they think republicans massively cheated in other places you know that the
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republicans are making claims about the swing states but maybe maybe where there were where there was a
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little more republican control of a local election you don't think there was any fraud in any in any local
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election you know at least within the city there was republican controlled none i would submit to you
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that the democrats probably have a whole bunch of examples that they're just sitting on because they
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don't want to raise the idea that fraud is possible because the biggest part of the point is it's not
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possible so so they have cut themselves off from their most normal um i just realized i'm not wearing my
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my ring on camera i take it off to type because sometimes it limits my finger movement but i'm still married
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in case you're wondering um anyway i think i finished my point that's all for now and i will talk to you
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all right periscope is off and youtube you have my full attention
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yeah the slaughter meter became um the wrong measurement for the situation because what happened was
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i do still think that in terms of the original purpose of the slaughter meter
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was predicting that trump would get the right number of votes to be re-elected i still think that's
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true it's just i don't know if we'll ever be able to know yeah will the system ever suss that out
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so the slaughter meter uh was designed about how many votes trump would get i'm reluctant to repurpose
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it and say it's now the the odds that the legal and constitutional system will will put him back
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and back in power so i'm going to just skip that for now i think uh what is my prediction of who will
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take office uh biden so my prediction that biden will will take office is not based on the legal
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challenge it's not based on how many votes there were whether or not there was fraud or whether or not
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it can be proven or even if the fraud was enough to reverse the election it's based on the fact that i don't
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think the courts could uh could inject this much uh let's say damage into the system that i believe the
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courts would ignore the law to protect the system and i'd be okay with that actually if now i'm not sure
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it's the right decision but in terms of the the balance if the supreme court is ever confronted
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with a decision where they could be technically legally constitutionally accurate but if they are
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it will destroy the country i depend on them to protect the country first right and i think i can
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protect i can depend on that they're going to protect the country and they're going to avoid a civil war
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even if it means a ridiculous decision so i don't think the supreme court can be the help that the
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president wants and i think that the social media and fake news are now powerful enough that they can
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just bully biden into office and just tell you it was all fine so i don't think trump has the power
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to overcome those forces but it's not impossible like farid zakaria said apparently in september
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there is a there's a path with no obstacle he's got a clear clean path to the office just don't know
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if he'll take it all right that's all for now i'll talk to you