Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1207 Scott Adams： Let Me Explain the GA Ballot-Suitcase Video Fake and Why it Looks so Compelling

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00:00:41.140 Well, we are entering the transition phase.

00:00:52.740 The transition phase.

00:00:54.540 Do I mean the administration?

00:00:58.160 No, I don't.

00:00:59.520 There might be a transition there, too.

00:01:01.280 But I'm talking about the fake news transition.

00:01:07.320 You may remember that it was not that long ago.

00:01:10.560 I told you that for four years, I think it is unambiguously true that the vast majority

00:01:19.860 of fake news came from the left.

00:01:23.760 Does anybody disagree with that statement?

00:01:26.180 That the vast amount of fake news came from the left for the past four years.

00:01:34.080 Maybe 80-20.

00:01:35.400 It's not like there isn't mistakes and fake news and misinterpretations and bias on both sides.

00:01:44.120 But it seemed to me deeply weighted against the Republicans and against Trump.

00:01:51.940 Now, is that just because of Trump?

00:01:55.200 I would say no.

00:01:57.480 It's because the group that's in power has the advantage of actually doing things.

00:02:07.080 For example, Joe Biden can appoint people to the government, right?

00:02:17.000 Put them in the, what do you call it, the cabinet.

00:02:19.600 And that's news.

00:02:22.100 And then the news that's friendly to Joe Biden, they've got a good content.

00:02:27.560 They can say, oh, look at the good picks this Joe Biden's making.

00:02:32.680 Let's do a segment about how wise and brilliant his picks are.

00:02:37.780 Now, you could agree or disagree whether they're wise or brilliant, but it's not really fake news.

00:02:43.040 They're not just making something up because they've got something real to talk about.

00:02:49.280 They don't need to make anything up.

00:02:51.200 Joe Biden did his job today.

00:02:53.440 There it is.

00:02:53.920 There's our story.

00:02:55.700 But if you're on the side whose president is not in power, what do you have?

00:03:02.160 You're not going to run the same stories about all the good things he did and he's doing his job today and he cut a ribbon.

00:03:09.240 It's kind of boring for your audience.

00:03:10.980 So the side that's out of power ends up, whether intentionally or it just goes that way, making up most of the fake news.

00:03:20.360 You should be experiencing, if this pattern follows, and I'm pretty sure it will, you should be watching a reversal of the proportion of fake news.

00:03:31.680 So you're going to go from 80% of it being coming from the left, you know, like the president drinks bleach and he's calling racists fine people.

00:03:41.200 I mean, it's all just made up stuff.

00:03:42.980 But you're going to see that reverse now.

00:03:45.680 Same as with Obama.

00:03:47.320 During the Obama years, Fox News was basically a dumpster fire of fake news.

00:03:53.000 And CNN probably had their share, but not as much, not even close.

00:03:59.660 So beware and just be informed that that ratio is in the process of reversing if Biden takes office, which is by no means guaranteed.

00:04:12.080 All right.

00:04:14.020 So let's talk about some of that.

00:04:18.800 All right.

00:04:19.600 How many of you saw the video out of Georgia, the security video that showed poll workers dismissing some number of people who had been working for the night and some people left?

00:04:32.460 And then after those people left, the remaining people took these suitcase looking things out from underneath tables where it appears they had been hiding.

00:04:43.760 And then they processed many thousands of votes from those hidden suitcases.

00:04:50.740 Hidden suitcases.

00:04:52.740 Looks pretty sketchy, doesn't it?

00:04:55.500 Pretty sketchy.

00:04:56.620 After they let the witnesses go home, and then the hidden suitcases come out, and then there's a gigantic spike for Biden.

00:05:07.660 Pretty suspicious.

00:05:10.660 Except almost certainly fake.

00:05:15.620 Sorry.

00:05:16.700 It's going to hurt for the next few months until you realize that most of your news has turned fake.

00:05:23.480 Because when it first happens, you're not going to believe any of it.

00:05:26.620 You're going to be, well, meaning that you're still going to believe that you're hearing real news, but it just won't be for a while.

00:05:35.780 So here are the questions that people gave me, because I know you're thinking the same thing.

00:05:41.800 By the way, here's a persuasion technique.

00:05:46.240 A good persuasion technique, whether it's sales or just presenting, is to tell people what they're thinking the moment they're thinking it.

00:05:54.420 Because if you can hit the thought, you know, and call it out the moment they're thinking it, you kind of become connected and you become more influential.

00:06:04.500 So I'm going to do that with you by anticipating your objections to be saying it fake.

00:06:10.880 Number one, is the video manipulated?

00:06:14.160 Does anybody think it's manipulated digitally?

00:06:20.140 I don't think so.

00:06:21.820 I don't believe it's manipulated digitally.

00:06:24.500 So that's not the claim.

00:06:25.700 I don't believe anybody's made that claim.

00:06:27.660 So let's say that we all agree that the video captures exactly what happened.

00:06:34.120 That what you see is exactly what was happening.

00:06:37.600 Do we all agree on that so far?

00:06:39.700 So there's nothing in the video production that's different.

00:06:45.540 Now, here are the questions that people ask me.

00:06:52.820 Scott, they let the witnesses go.

00:06:57.420 There's testimony that the witnesses were told they were done for the night, Scott.

00:07:03.700 They were done for the night.

00:07:05.100 And by the way, I was making lots of jokes about this video.

00:07:09.520 And I've deleted them all because I was waiting for the debunk.

00:07:13.620 And I thought, if I get up early, I can make a bunch of jokes about the suitcases of the video.

00:07:21.860 And I thought, I'd better hurry because I know this thing's going to get debunked pretty quickly.

00:07:26.760 And it didn't take long.

00:07:27.940 It only took a few hours.

00:07:29.500 Now, you're going to say it's not debunked.

00:07:31.600 But let me go through the argument.

00:07:33.400 So the first question is, why would they send those witnesses home and tell them that they were done for the night?

00:07:43.820 And here's the answer.

00:07:45.340 That never happened.

00:07:47.480 That's the whole answer.

00:07:49.560 You think you heard that fact.

00:07:52.920 It just never happened.

00:07:54.180 So here's what did happen, allegedly.

00:07:59.840 Now, compare the debunk to the story you thought was real when you first saw it.

00:08:05.400 Doesn't mean the debunk is real, right?

00:08:08.360 Can you allow that it's possible that the debunk is fake?

00:08:14.140 Right?

00:08:14.740 We can't rule that out.

00:08:16.020 But let me tell you what it is.

00:08:17.360 And then you just compare it and see for yourself.

00:08:19.280 So the debunk says that the only people who were sent home were the envelope cutters.

00:08:25.920 So one part of the job was some people would just open all the envelopes and put the ballots in these containers.

00:08:33.920 And then that was their job.

00:08:35.780 They were not witnesses.

00:08:37.800 They were not ballot counters.

00:08:40.620 They were simply envelope cutters.

00:08:42.960 Now, what do you do with the envelope cutters when you've reached the end of all your ballots?

00:08:49.680 In other words, everything that needs to be cut is cut.

00:08:53.180 And that's the only thing they're there for because people are trained for specific jobs.

00:08:57.560 So what would you do when all the envelope cutters are done cutting and there's nothing left to cut?

00:09:04.340 Would you say to them, looks like we're done for the night.

00:09:08.420 You can go home.

00:09:09.300 And if you were an envelope cutter and somebody walked up to you and said, hey, good job.

00:09:15.540 Looks like we're done for the night.

00:09:16.840 You can go home.

00:09:18.380 How would you interpret that?

00:09:20.560 Would you interpret it that the ballot counting was done for the night?

00:09:25.280 Or would you interpret it as only you ballot cutters are done for the night?

00:09:31.220 Do you see how easily you could have somebody who was a witness to say, look, they told me we were done for the night.

00:09:40.300 But how exactly did they word it?

00:09:42.800 Did they say, you're done for the night?

00:09:45.240 Did they talk to the three people who were cutting envelopes and say, it looks like we're done for the night?

00:09:52.460 As in, we envelope cutters.

00:09:54.620 How easily could somebody quite honestly think that they heard somebody say they were done for the night, but simply misinterpreted it?

00:10:03.920 Now, we did see a number of people leave, and the story is that they were envelope cutters.

00:10:09.300 The story is also that there was one state witness who remained, but there is no story that says anybody was denied witnessing.

00:10:18.280 So I don't believe there is any claim that there was any Republican witness who didn't have access to the room if they wanted it.

00:10:28.580 So is every election witnessed by both a Republican and a Democrat in every part of the process?

00:10:37.980 I think the answer is no, right?

00:10:40.800 I believe the rule is that you're allowed to witness.

00:10:44.960 Being allowed to witness is quite different from the sworn, by the way, the sworn affidavits are what people heard and saw.

00:10:55.060 Somebody is saying there are sworn affidavits.

00:10:58.480 A sworn affidavit is what they honestly think happened.

00:11:02.040 That's not exactly the same as what happened.

00:11:05.220 That's somebody's interpretation of what happened.

00:11:07.700 And like I said, if somebody honestly thought the supervisor told them the counting was done, but it was just a misinterpretation,

00:11:16.040 you could easily imagine that they would swear under oath,

00:11:19.520 I was told the counting was done, but it was just a misinterpretation.

00:11:23.700 Now, what about the fact that these suitcases were kept under the table until these people left?

00:11:32.140 Why would you put, number one, why would you put ballots in a suitcase?

00:11:39.460 Did you ask yourself that?

00:11:41.500 Why would there be these roller bags that you take on an airplane?

00:11:45.740 How would those be in a vote facility?

00:11:48.620 Because it seems like if something's in a suitcase, wasn't that the way it got into the building, like illegitimately?

00:11:56.660 Because it's in a suitcase?

00:11:58.180 It's not in some kind of official container, right?

00:12:02.120 Except they're not suitcases.

00:12:05.540 The rolly bag things you saw are the official ballot containers.

00:12:11.060 They have wheelies on them because they're heavy.

00:12:13.320 That's it.

00:12:15.560 So there was no suitcases.

00:12:17.440 There were only official containers that were exactly the containers that you use to hold ballots.

00:12:24.820 Now, somebody said, but Scott, why were they under the table?

00:12:30.720 Why were they under the tables?

00:12:33.540 Why would you hide them under the tables until these other people are gone?

00:12:37.280 To which I say, where the hell else would you put them?

00:12:43.060 Apparently, you've never worked in any kind of a situation like this.

00:12:50.300 Where you keep stuff until you need it is under the table.

00:12:55.740 That's where it goes.

00:12:57.300 Do you think that they put wheels on those containers because they're not very heavy?

00:13:03.100 No, they have wheels because they're hard to lift.

00:13:06.280 But they're heavy.

00:13:08.200 Where do you put something that's heavy?

00:13:10.320 Do you pick it up and put it on top of a table?

00:13:14.100 No.

00:13:15.240 You put it under the table.

00:13:17.060 Do you put it in the aisle where people are walking around and they would have to walk around it?

00:13:23.580 No.

00:13:24.640 You would put it as close to the counting machines as you could.

00:13:28.400 Not on top of a table because they're heavy.

00:13:31.800 And not in the aisle.

00:13:33.060 Well, you would put them under a table relatively near the counting machines.

00:13:38.920 And when would you take them out?

00:13:41.660 When would you take them out?

00:13:43.580 Well, if it were me and I were running this process,

00:13:47.040 I would count up all the ones that you could process that were already out of the envelopes.

00:13:51.920 When I was done processing all the ones that are already out of the envelopes,

00:13:58.120 do you know what I'd do?

00:13:59.840 I'd walk over and see if there's any more to process.

00:14:03.400 And then I would see that the envelope cutters had really gotten ahead

00:14:06.700 and they'd created a whole bunch of ballots that are now in these luggage things.

00:14:11.660 And the numbers that had been released for the envelopes was gigantic

00:14:16.440 because they'd done a good job cutting.

00:14:19.020 And now they just took those and ran them through the system.

00:14:23.380 Every part of what you saw in the video is the normal system.

00:14:28.460 Every part of it.

00:14:29.440 Now, can I determine that just because the video shows two movies,

00:14:36.720 I know which one is true?

00:14:38.640 You can watch that video.

00:14:40.440 And if you know that these luggage things are the standard things they use,

00:14:45.920 if you know that the cutters are done and had been dismissed,

00:14:49.840 and if you knew that it's obvious that's where you would store them

00:14:52.300 until you need them, it's under the table,

00:14:54.120 that's exactly where you'd put them.

00:14:55.540 Could it be that some of the people who were in charge of counting

00:14:59.960 might have been unaware of how many of the cutters had put under the table?

00:15:05.320 Would that surprise you?

00:15:06.920 In such a, you know, weakly organized system,

00:15:10.760 would you be surprised to learn that after the cutters had left,

00:15:15.560 somebody says, oh, wait, there are way more ballots here than we thought.

00:15:19.360 We didn't realize they were storing them under the table.

00:15:22.260 How unusual would that be?

00:15:23.920 Not even a little bit.

00:15:26.320 That wouldn't even be a little bit unusual.

00:15:28.760 That would be exactly how you'd expect a semi-organized thing to go.

00:15:33.920 It's like, oh, we got some ballots over here.

00:15:35.840 Oh, I forgot there's some under the table.

00:15:38.060 Pretty normal stuff.

00:15:40.240 Now, do you see a complete movie for both versions?

00:15:47.060 Yes, you do.

00:15:50.900 The video 100% supports both versions of the story.

00:15:57.940 One is that they just cut some stuff and left.

00:16:01.740 There were a lot of things they cut.

00:16:03.340 Maybe they found some more at the end of the night,

00:16:05.540 but they were just all in the room.

00:16:07.340 They were in official boxes, and they just counted them.

00:16:09.760 Now, another thing somebody said is, but Scott, that big spike that happened all at the same time,

00:16:19.280 how could such a big spike happen?

00:16:22.200 Well, the answer is, that's when they started counting the ones that this group of people had taken out of the envelopes.

00:16:29.260 They just waited until they were done.

00:16:31.380 It's a big batch.

00:16:32.800 They just ran them all at the same time.

00:16:34.680 But what about the fact, allegedly, they were 98% for Biden?

00:16:39.140 How in the world could you have so many ballots that are 98% for Biden?

00:16:45.060 Number one, I don't know that that's true.

00:16:47.700 Do you?

00:16:48.900 I've heard people say it.

00:16:50.900 Do you know that that's true?

00:16:52.140 So I would say that is not even close to a data that I would say, yeah, that sounds pretty credible.

00:16:59.640 Could be true.

00:17:00.920 Let's say it is true.

00:17:02.740 Let's take the assumption that there really were.

00:17:06.020 98% of those votes really did go to Biden, all in that little hour there.

00:17:11.180 What does that tell you about the video?

00:17:14.440 It doesn't really tell you that that's why, that anything you saw in the video,

00:17:19.040 it doesn't tell you that's why it's 98% Biden.

00:17:23.140 Because you could have an entirely separate fraud,

00:17:26.880 which created a whole bunch of, let's say, harvested ballots.

00:17:31.340 Could it be that the harvested ballots came in toward the end?

00:17:35.900 Yes.

00:17:36.740 It could be a complete fraud, but not the one you see on video.

00:17:41.040 In other words, the fraud could have happened to create the ballots that were then cut,

00:17:46.160 that were then put in the boxes, that were then counted,

00:17:49.280 but would allow the possibility that everyone in that room was just counting ballots

00:17:54.860 and didn't do anything wrong, right?

00:17:57.980 That possibility is not ruled out by anything you saw in the video,

00:18:03.260 that they were just doing their job.

00:18:05.080 You can't rule that out based on the video.

00:18:07.200 Now, could you be suspicious based on the video?

00:18:12.160 Sure.

00:18:13.100 Should you follow up?

00:18:15.620 Absolutely.

00:18:16.800 Of course.

00:18:17.760 Because we all want to know more and we'd like to be certain.

00:18:20.120 And if 98% of those votes went to Biden, would you suspect that was fraud?

00:18:26.800 Yes.

00:18:27.740 Yes, you would.

00:18:28.920 If it were true.

00:18:30.960 But it doesn't mean that if that were fraud,

00:18:34.140 that you saw any of that fraud happening on that video.

00:18:37.620 It could be just that's why ballots are for Biden,

00:18:41.300 but all they were doing is counting them.

00:18:43.780 Maybe.

00:18:44.080 Let's see.

00:18:47.580 What else did people say?

00:18:49.980 Oh, somebody else said,

00:18:51.560 well, I could believe it was legitimate if it happened at 12 noon,

00:18:55.360 but this is happening late at night.

00:18:58.500 Suspicious, right?

00:19:00.000 To which I say, everything was happening late at night.

00:19:03.720 That all the voting places were counting late at night,

00:19:07.320 because that's the way it works.

00:19:08.700 So none of that means anything.

00:19:09.820 All right.

00:19:14.980 So I'm going to look at your comments here for a moment,

00:19:17.640 because I want to see how mad you are.

00:19:20.260 Signing out.

00:19:21.980 Yeah.

00:19:22.480 People do not like experiencing confirmation bias and then knowing it.

00:19:30.120 But let me, if you prefer to believe this for a while,

00:19:34.060 and by the way, you could be right.

00:19:37.080 I'm not going to rule out the possibility that this video shows something bad.

00:19:43.420 I'm just telling you that there's nobody here who wanted that to be real more than I did.

00:19:52.460 Well, maybe Trump did, right?

00:19:54.220 But when I saw that video, I laughed out loud, and I said to myself,

00:20:00.080 okay, this is probably going to get debunked, but damn it, I hope this is real.

00:20:03.700 I really, really wanted it to be real, because I do believe the election was rigged,

00:20:11.920 and I don't think we'll necessarily get such good evidence like that.

00:20:16.260 So the fact that it might have been real was just sort of exciting to me.

00:20:21.240 Now, you see where my bias is, right?

00:20:23.040 My bias is 100%.

00:20:26.840 I want that frickin' thing to be a real video.

00:20:32.040 But I'm afraid it isn't.

00:20:34.220 I'm afraid the evidence just isn't there.

00:20:37.800 You really just had to hear the other side of it.

00:20:41.080 Now, somebody's saying the fake water burst thing was fake.

00:20:46.400 Now, let me be as clear as I can.

00:20:49.580 There's 100% chance, in my opinion, that the election was rigged, right?

00:20:58.140 Here's my argument, and try out my argument compared to this argument.

00:21:03.860 So the video evidence you saw is no better or worse than the Covington Kids video.

00:21:11.140 Is there anybody who would disagree with this statement?

00:21:15.120 That the credibility of that Georgia video is equivalent to,

00:21:21.360 if you're just looking at it and you're not an expert and you're just a person looking at a video,

00:21:26.900 it's equivalent to, in believability and credibility,

00:21:31.540 to the first Covington Kids video you saw,

00:21:34.580 which was very believable and completely reversed of what the actual situation was.

00:21:41.140 Could this be one of those where it really looks believable,

00:21:45.800 like there's some fraud happening right in front of you, but it's just not?

00:21:49.840 Yeah, easily.

00:21:51.320 Easily.

00:21:51.820 That wouldn't even be a stretch.

00:21:54.740 It would be the most normal thing in the world that that's fake.

00:21:58.960 So the ones that I tend to doubt in terms of claims

00:22:03.040 are the ones that are a little too on the nose,

00:22:05.940 like there was a trailer full of ballots, but we can't find it.

00:22:12.460 And there was a video of a thing, but the other explanation fits it too.

00:22:18.800 You're going to see a lot of these.

00:22:20.660 So here's my argument for why the election was stolen.

00:22:25.220 It goes like this.

00:22:28.800 It's 110 degrees out in your town.

00:22:31.740 It's the summer.

00:22:32.960 And you buy an ice cream cone.

00:22:34.860 And you're walking down the sidewalk eating your ice cream cone

00:22:37.660 and the top of the ice cream falls off on the sidewalk.

00:22:41.880 It's 110 degrees and the sidewalk is just sizzling hot.

00:22:46.760 Now you know you're not going to pick it up

00:22:48.400 and you say to yourself,

00:22:50.100 ah, screw it, bad luck today.

00:22:52.640 And you walk away.

00:22:55.040 Now, I ask you an hour, let's say a few hours later,

00:22:58.200 I say to you,

00:22:59.240 you know, you dropped your ice cream on that hot sidewalk

00:23:02.840 at 110 degree a day.

00:23:05.880 Do you know if it melted?

00:23:09.100 Do you know if it melted?

00:23:11.080 And you say to yourself, you know,

00:23:13.540 I guess I don't.

00:23:15.160 I don't know if that melted.

00:23:17.360 It was 110 degrees and it was ice cream.

00:23:19.660 I know because I was licking it before it fell off.

00:23:23.000 So it was a real ice cream.

00:23:25.180 But I don't know it melted.

00:23:27.920 Or do I?

00:23:29.500 What would you say?

00:23:31.040 Would you say that hours later,

00:23:33.260 you know it melted?

00:23:35.120 Or would you say,

00:23:36.020 I don't know, there's no evidence.

00:23:38.180 I can't prove it.

00:23:39.560 I don't have a video.

00:23:40.820 I don't have a testimony.

00:23:42.460 Nobody watched it.

00:23:43.520 Could you fairly say it did not melt

00:23:47.280 because you don't have any evidence?

00:23:50.500 No.

00:23:52.980 No.

00:23:54.760 You know it melted.

00:23:56.560 Why do you know it melted without any evidence?

00:24:00.100 You know it melted because it didn't have any other option.

00:24:03.540 There was only the one thing it could do.

00:24:05.520 In this world, it had to melt.

00:24:08.980 It doesn't matter if it had a witness.

00:24:10.580 It doesn't matter if it was on video.

00:24:13.680 It had to melt.

00:24:15.780 So this election is like that ice cream

00:24:20.220 that fell on the sidewalk.

00:24:22.160 The one thing we did learn

00:24:23.880 is that at the very minimum,

00:24:26.400 there are tons of ways that you could cheat.

00:24:30.120 Did we not learn that for sure?

00:24:32.180 I feel pretty confident about that.

00:24:34.320 That whether or not cheating is confirmed

00:24:37.200 at some large scale or not,

00:24:38.980 we certainly learned that the witnesses

00:24:41.420 don't see the whole system.

00:24:43.360 At the very least,

00:24:44.980 it's a non-transparent system.

00:24:47.840 You all agree?

00:24:48.920 Non-transparent.

00:24:50.040 We can't audit the software.

00:24:52.520 The witnesses had certain access

00:24:54.440 but not complete.

00:24:55.640 There are all kinds of chain of custody things

00:24:59.020 that nobody witnesses, etc.

00:25:00.800 Now, under a condition

00:25:02.180 where cheating is completely practical,

00:25:05.160 if you wanted to do it.

00:25:07.860 And the stakes are sky high.

00:25:10.540 It's like trying to deny

00:25:12.680 Orange, Hitler, second term.

00:25:14.820 What could be a higher stake than that?

00:25:17.140 So it's possible

00:25:18.280 that you've got the biggest stakes in the world.

00:25:21.600 How often

00:25:22.440 does major fraud happen

00:25:24.820 when it's possible,

00:25:27.220 in fact, quite possible,

00:25:28.500 and people really, really want to do it.

00:25:33.320 How often?

00:25:35.160 Every time.

00:25:36.900 It's like the ice cream melting on the sidewalk.

00:25:39.600 You don't need a witness

00:25:40.980 if you have this set up.

00:25:43.460 If you've got a hot sidewalk

00:25:44.720 and some ice cream,

00:25:46.020 you're going to have some melted ice cream.

00:25:47.500 If you have a non-observed election

00:25:50.200 in the United States,

00:25:53.120 the highest stakes you could possibly imagine,

00:25:56.360 yes.

00:25:58.980 Of course it happened.

00:26:01.440 Of course.

00:26:03.060 Now, how about the question of

00:26:04.340 did our foreign adversaries

00:26:07.020 try to influence the election?

00:26:09.140 We have some information on that.

00:26:11.380 Now, given that we know

00:26:12.960 foreign adversaries can,

00:26:15.720 so it's possible,

00:26:17.220 same situation,

00:26:18.600 it's possible,

00:26:19.580 we know that for sure,

00:26:21.000 because how hard is it

00:26:22.160 to do something with social media?

00:26:24.000 It's easy.

00:26:25.020 So it's possible.

00:26:26.360 And of course,

00:26:27.220 if you're China or Russia,

00:26:28.560 or Iran, for example,

00:26:30.720 the stakes,

00:26:32.180 they're not just high,

00:26:34.480 it's life and death.

00:26:36.660 It's the fate of your country.

00:26:39.220 It's the highest stakes

00:26:40.320 you could possibly imagine.

00:26:42.140 So it's possible.

00:26:44.560 Indeed, it's easy.

00:26:46.500 And the highest stakes in the world,

00:26:48.340 did it happen?

00:26:50.240 Yes.

00:26:51.720 Yes.

00:26:52.240 We don't have to debate it.

00:26:55.660 You don't have to show me the evidence.

00:26:58.200 I don't need to see a video

00:26:59.500 of somebody in China

00:27:01.060 typing out a meme.

00:27:03.140 I don't need that evidence.

00:27:05.120 It had to happen.

00:27:07.400 It can't not happen in our world.

00:27:10.140 It's ice cream on a hot sidewalk.

00:27:12.140 Of course,

00:27:14.180 China tried to influence the operation.

00:27:16.960 In fact,

00:27:18.260 DNI Ratcliffe

00:27:21.920 told CBS

00:27:25.660 that China is using blackmail,

00:27:27.680 bribery,

00:27:28.200 and covert influence

00:27:29.320 to target members of Congress

00:27:31.080 and make sure that only laws

00:27:33.080 that are favorable to China

00:27:34.300 are passed.

00:27:35.640 That's just part

00:27:36.380 of what they're doing.

00:27:37.600 Apparently,

00:27:38.720 this is from Gordon Chang,

00:27:41.060 actually,

00:27:41.820 China was using AI

00:27:43.680 to figure out

00:27:47.200 who was,

00:27:48.140 let's say,

00:27:49.360 sympathetic to Antifa

00:27:50.780 and Black Lives Matter.

00:27:53.900 And then they would send them

00:27:54.920 TikTok videos

00:27:55.860 of how to riot.

00:27:58.220 Do you think that mattered?

00:28:00.160 China sending

00:28:01.000 Black Lives Matter

00:28:03.800 and Antifa sympathizers

00:28:05.700 directions on how to riot?

00:28:08.560 You don't think that mattered?

00:28:10.640 Probably mattered.

00:28:12.480 And Gordon Chang says

00:28:14.000 that's exactly what happened.

00:28:15.920 So,

00:28:16.800 everybody looking for these,

00:28:18.420 you know,

00:28:18.720 little bits of evidence

00:28:19.900 of whether this election

00:28:21.020 was stolen or not,

00:28:22.080 it's complete misdirection.

00:28:24.540 You don't need evidence

00:28:25.820 if bullies

00:28:27.060 chase down the witnesses.

00:28:29.080 Let me say that again.

00:28:32.020 Bullies

00:28:32.620 chased out witnesses

00:28:35.140 in the key cities.

00:28:37.080 Right?

00:28:37.320 So,

00:28:37.580 keep that fact

00:28:38.380 about all the election,

00:28:41.080 fraud,

00:28:41.940 and mischief,

00:28:42.460 and stuff.

00:28:42.820 So,

00:28:43.060 keep that fact

00:28:44.140 just as one little fact

00:28:45.240 that bullies,

00:28:47.020 and we have plenty

00:28:48.420 of witnesses,

00:28:49.080 it seems like that

00:28:49.720 will be easy to demonstrate,

00:28:51.380 bullies chased out witnesses

00:28:52.960 to the vote counting.

00:28:54.960 Okay,

00:28:55.260 that's an important fact.

00:28:56.680 Now,

00:28:57.600 now take all

00:28:58.800 of the other stuff.

00:29:00.460 You've got your video

00:29:01.580 that you think

00:29:03.080 shows some

00:29:03.640 corruption.

00:29:05.340 You've got your data analysis

00:29:06.800 that shows some

00:29:07.740 worrying things.

00:29:08.960 You've got hundreds

00:29:09.460 of witnesses.

00:29:10.640 Now,

00:29:10.820 add up all

00:29:11.780 of those

00:29:12.300 strong

00:29:13.280 arguments,

00:29:15.080 and then just

00:29:16.060 throw them

00:29:17.400 in the ocean

00:29:18.240 because you don't

00:29:19.780 need them.

00:29:20.140 they're useless.

00:29:23.200 Maybe you can

00:29:24.060 prove them in court,

00:29:25.060 maybe you couldn't,

00:29:25.800 doesn't matter,

00:29:26.440 they're useless.

00:29:27.700 The only thing

00:29:28.480 you needed

00:29:28.920 was

00:29:30.420 bullies

00:29:31.780 made witnesses

00:29:33.380 leave.

00:29:34.420 That's the end

00:29:35.120 of the conversation.

00:29:36.900 Every fucking

00:29:37.780 thing you say

00:29:38.600 after that

00:29:39.360 doesn't

00:29:40.700 matter.

00:29:42.800 You get that,

00:29:43.520 right?

00:29:44.440 Nothing matters

00:29:45.340 but that.

00:29:46.600 It's the only

00:29:47.080 thing that matters.

00:29:48.240 And if you allow

00:29:49.040 yourself to imagine

00:29:50.000 the other stuff

00:29:50.760 matters,

00:29:52.440 you,

00:29:52.920 you are

00:29:53.320 victim of

00:29:54.620 misinformation

00:29:55.340 and misdirection.

00:29:58.080 All that matters

00:29:59.360 is it was

00:30:00.900 non-transparent

00:30:01.980 by force

00:30:03.520 because bullying

00:30:04.740 is force.

00:30:07.060 This was a

00:30:08.240 violent coup

00:30:09.280 or

00:30:11.320 you must assume

00:30:12.640 it was a

00:30:13.120 violent coup

00:30:13.780 because the

00:30:14.880 witnesses

00:30:15.280 were

00:30:16.700 intimidated

00:30:18.440 in a way

00:30:19.200 by force.

00:30:21.580 So the

00:30:22.580 assumption is

00:30:24.020 it's a stolen

00:30:24.640 election

00:30:25.160 because of

00:30:26.140 the bullying

00:30:26.540 of the

00:30:26.840 witnesses.

00:30:27.460 You don't

00:30:27.880 need anything

00:30:28.420 else,

00:30:29.480 nothing else

00:30:30.300 to throw out

00:30:31.420 this election

00:30:32.000 and do

00:30:32.640 whatever you

00:30:33.060 want if

00:30:33.540 you're the

00:30:34.280 house.

00:30:34.860 Now,

00:30:35.060 I don't know

00:30:35.260 if they

00:30:35.480 will.

00:30:36.260 I would

00:30:36.700 predict that

00:30:37.320 Biden will

00:30:37.780 actually take

00:30:38.340 the job

00:30:39.240 to keep

00:30:40.660 society

00:30:41.160 together.

00:30:41.580 but I

00:30:42.300 think we

00:30:42.620 can say

00:30:42.980 that nothing

00:30:43.460 like the

00:30:44.040 republic

00:30:44.440 exists

00:30:45.120 anymore.

00:30:46.680 I think

00:30:47.060 it was

00:30:47.440 Franklin

00:30:49.720 who said

00:30:50.360 when he

00:30:51.540 asked what

00:30:51.960 kind of

00:30:52.280 form of

00:30:52.680 government

00:30:53.040 they had

00:30:53.520 created,

00:30:54.040 he said

00:30:54.400 a republic

00:30:55.100 if you

00:30:55.600 can keep

00:30:56.160 it.

00:30:57.740 And we

00:30:58.400 didn't.

00:30:59.860 We lost

00:31:00.400 it.

00:31:01.120 Because the

00:31:01.760 republic

00:31:02.140 doesn't look

00:31:03.860 like anything

00:31:04.600 like bullying

00:31:05.520 witnesses and

00:31:06.360 having a

00:31:06.720 non-transparent

00:31:07.520 election with

00:31:09.200 software you

00:31:09.900 can't audit.

00:31:11.340 That's not

00:31:11.980 even close

00:31:12.480 to being

00:31:12.800 a republic.

00:31:14.280 Whatever

00:31:14.540 that is,

00:31:16.520 is a

00:31:17.160 bullyocracy.

00:31:19.300 Do we

00:31:19.760 have a

00:31:20.080 form of

00:31:20.500 government

00:31:20.880 that's based

00:31:21.480 on who

00:31:21.820 can bully

00:31:22.380 the best

00:31:22.980 in the

00:31:23.800 election

00:31:24.120 process?

00:31:24.860 Because that's

00:31:25.180 what happened.

00:31:26.720 So we

00:31:27.580 did lose

00:31:28.080 the republic.

00:31:29.640 It's no

00:31:30.100 longer

00:31:30.460 theoretical.

00:31:32.400 The country

00:31:33.000 still functions,

00:31:34.480 so that's

00:31:34.960 good.

00:31:35.640 Luckily,

00:31:36.280 we have

00:31:36.520 such good

00:31:37.260 systems that

00:31:38.560 have built

00:31:38.880 up over

00:31:39.300 time.

00:31:39.900 The economy

00:31:40.680 still chugs

00:31:41.420 along.

00:31:42.520 The garbage

00:31:43.840 still gets

00:31:44.360 picked up.

00:31:45.440 But we're

00:31:45.760 definitely not

00:31:46.260 a republic

00:31:46.740 anymore.

00:31:48.560 Can we

00:31:48.960 get it

00:31:49.260 back?

00:31:50.540 Do you

00:31:51.080 want to

00:31:51.380 get it

00:31:51.600 back?

00:31:52.680 I think

00:31:53.360 we can

00:31:53.700 get it

00:31:54.020 back.

00:31:55.120 I don't

00:31:55.720 know if

00:31:56.040 it'll be

00:31:56.360 in the

00:31:56.640 next four

00:31:57.160 years.

00:31:58.160 I mean,

00:31:58.400 we might

00:31:58.820 have to

00:31:59.120 wait for

00:31:59.440 another

00:31:59.720 election to

00:32:00.300 get it

00:32:00.520 back.

00:32:01.260 But yeah,

00:32:01.720 we can

00:32:01.980 get it

00:32:02.240 back.

00:32:03.280 If we

00:32:03.860 get to

00:32:04.240 2024,

00:32:06.360 and there

00:32:06.800 is more

00:32:07.180 witness

00:32:07.840 intimidation

00:32:09.480 at

00:32:09.940 polling

00:32:10.260 places,

00:32:11.700 what would

00:32:12.480 be the

00:32:12.760 proper

00:32:13.080 response?

00:32:15.840 You know

00:32:16.420 what it

00:32:16.680 is.

00:32:17.040 I don't

00:32:17.460 even have

00:32:17.740 to say

00:32:18.060 it.

00:32:18.440 I'm not

00:32:18.760 going to

00:32:18.940 say it

00:32:19.200 out loud

00:32:19.660 because I'll

00:32:20.500 get banned

00:32:21.040 from all

00:32:21.580 social media

00:32:22.500 platforms.

00:32:23.900 But yeah,

00:32:26.000 this doesn't

00:32:27.380 happen a

00:32:27.900 second time.

00:32:29.140 You get

00:32:29.680 that,

00:32:30.000 right?

00:32:31.180 This is

00:32:31.740 once.

00:32:32.760 Maybe they

00:32:33.260 got away

00:32:33.620 with it.

00:32:34.000 Maybe they

00:32:34.320 stole the

00:32:34.740 election.

00:32:35.160 It looks

00:32:35.400 like it.

00:32:35.760 Maybe

00:32:36.480 they'll

00:32:36.680 get away

00:32:37.000 with it.

00:32:37.300 Have

00:32:37.440 four years

00:32:38.000 of Biden.

00:32:39.220 But this

00:32:40.360 doesn't

00:32:40.640 happen

00:32:40.900 twice.

00:32:43.000 Doesn't

00:32:43.500 happen

00:32:43.720 twice.

00:32:45.920 All

00:32:46.120 right.

00:32:48.400 The

00:32:48.920 weirdest,

00:32:50.060 funniest

00:32:50.260 story of

00:32:50.840 the day

00:32:51.120 is that

00:32:51.480 Joe Biden

00:32:51.960 was asked

00:32:52.580 in an

00:32:52.860 interview

00:32:53.140 about his

00:32:54.380 disagreements

00:32:55.080 with Kamala

00:32:55.600 Harris.

00:32:56.040 I guess

00:32:56.180 Jake Tapper

00:32:56.740 was talking

00:32:57.200 to him.

00:32:58.340 And Biden

00:32:58.740 actually told

00:33:00.300 this joke

00:33:01.100 in public.

00:33:02.960 He said,

00:33:03.740 like I

00:33:04.140 told Barack,

00:33:05.120 if I

00:33:05.680 reach something

00:33:06.900 where there's

00:33:07.780 a fundamental

00:33:08.340 disagreement,

00:33:09.380 meaning with

00:33:09.980 Kamala,

00:33:11.200 we have

00:33:11.680 based on

00:33:12.920 moral principle,

00:33:14.080 I'll develop

00:33:14.740 some disease

00:33:15.380 and say I

00:33:15.860 have to

00:33:16.160 resign.

00:33:19.300 There's your

00:33:20.020 strong leadership.

00:33:21.760 He says,

00:33:22.360 if his

00:33:22.800 vice president

00:33:23.520 disagrees with

00:33:24.480 him,

00:33:25.460 he'll claim

00:33:26.280 he has a

00:33:26.700 disease and

00:33:27.340 resign.

00:33:28.440 Now,

00:33:29.480 to be

00:33:30.040 fair,

00:33:31.200 he's

00:33:31.540 joking.

00:33:31.920 To be

00:33:33.540 fair,

00:33:34.460 it was

00:33:34.680 actually a

00:33:35.060 pretty good

00:33:35.380 joke.

00:33:36.600 Right?

00:33:37.140 As a

00:33:38.000 professional

00:33:39.280 humorist,

00:33:40.600 I give him

00:33:41.260 a good

00:33:41.860 grade on

00:33:42.340 that joke.

00:33:42.900 That was

00:33:43.180 a solid

00:33:43.580 joke.

00:33:44.240 Because

00:33:44.700 everybody

00:33:45.040 was thinking

00:33:45.600 it.

00:33:46.800 It was,

00:33:47.760 he hit

00:33:48.540 the two

00:33:49.000 joke

00:33:50.340 dimensions

00:33:50.900 of,

00:33:52.100 you're

00:33:52.540 already

00:33:52.760 thinking

00:33:53.160 it,

00:33:53.600 so that's

00:33:54.000 one dimension.

00:33:54.960 He's got

00:33:55.300 something that

00:33:55.880 was in

00:33:56.640 your mind

00:33:57.060 to begin

00:33:57.460 with.

00:33:58.460 And

00:33:58.780 then he

00:33:59.520 did

00:33:59.680 something

00:34:00.040 bizarre.

00:34:00.600 the bizarre

00:34:02.040 thing is that

00:34:02.620 he said

00:34:02.940 it out

00:34:03.240 loud in

00:34:03.640 public,

00:34:04.560 which you

00:34:05.280 weren't

00:34:05.520 expecting.

00:34:06.500 That's what

00:34:06.920 makes it

00:34:07.280 a joke.

00:34:08.000 So it

00:34:08.440 was already

00:34:08.820 in your

00:34:09.100 mind and

00:34:09.640 then he

00:34:09.860 said it

00:34:10.160 out loud.

00:34:10.820 That's

00:34:11.060 two of

00:34:11.320 the six

00:34:11.640 dimensions

00:34:12.040 of humor

00:34:12.460 that I

00:34:13.020 talk about.

00:34:13.700 If you

00:34:14.060 want more

00:34:14.480 on the

00:34:14.860 dimensions

00:34:15.240 of humor,

00:34:15.940 just

00:34:16.120 Google

00:34:17.160 my name

00:34:17.940 and six

00:34:18.900 dimensions

00:34:19.500 of humor.

00:34:20.480 It'll

00:34:20.640 pop up

00:34:21.360 all over

00:34:21.740 the internet.

00:34:22.780 All right.

00:34:23.680 So I

00:34:25.780 don't know

00:34:26.600 that this

00:34:27.940 is necessarily

00:34:28.840 signaling

00:34:29.640 some kind

00:34:30.480 of a

00:34:31.000 Freudian

00:34:32.200 slip

00:34:32.900 where he's

00:34:33.660 signaling to

00:34:34.520 the world

00:34:34.960 that this

00:34:35.680 is going

00:34:35.960 to happen.

00:34:37.660 I think

00:34:38.460 it's probably

00:34:38.980 more it was

00:34:39.520 just a joke.

00:34:40.960 But I

00:34:41.640 don't think

00:34:42.220 it's like

00:34:42.960 they haven't

00:34:43.560 thought of

00:34:44.000 it.

00:34:45.720 It's not

00:34:46.440 like it's

00:34:47.460 not on the

00:34:48.060 option set,

00:34:49.200 which is

00:34:49.620 funny,

00:34:50.260 because he

00:34:50.980 jokes about

00:34:51.520 it and it

00:34:51.960 is funny,

00:34:52.880 but it's

00:34:53.640 sort of on

00:34:54.100 the option

00:34:54.500 set.

00:34:55.900 It's

00:34:56.420 legitimately

00:34:56.960 one of the

00:34:58.240 options.

00:34:58.840 I don't

00:34:59.200 know how

00:34:59.600 likely it

00:35:00.380 is,

00:35:00.660 but it's

00:35:01.700 on the

00:35:02.020 list.

00:35:03.040 It might

00:35:03.440 be fifth

00:35:04.180 or sixth,

00:35:04.860 but it's

00:35:05.100 on the

00:35:05.400 list.

00:35:08.320 So there's

00:35:08.840 a question

00:35:09.260 of whether,

00:35:09.780 I guess

00:35:10.060 Biden said

00:35:10.680 he does

00:35:11.200 want Trump

00:35:12.020 to attend

00:35:12.540 his inauguration.

00:35:14.060 Do you

00:35:14.380 think Trump

00:35:15.000 should attend

00:35:16.360 Biden's

00:35:17.660 inauguration?

00:35:18.820 Now there's

00:35:19.240 a history

00:35:19.680 of it,

00:35:20.240 because it

00:35:21.700 signals a

00:35:23.700 peaceful

00:35:24.020 transfer of

00:35:24.760 power and

00:35:25.220 it's good

00:35:25.700 for the

00:35:25.980 country.

00:35:26.700 But do you

00:35:27.100 think in

00:35:27.500 this special

00:35:28.020 case that

00:35:29.520 Trump should

00:35:31.180 go to

00:35:31.520 Biden's

00:35:32.100 inauguration?

00:35:34.160 I would

00:35:34.880 say strong

00:35:36.380 no on

00:35:37.300 that.

00:35:37.800 Strong

00:35:38.200 no.

00:35:38.880 As a

00:35:39.640 supporter,

00:35:40.380 I would

00:35:40.640 be quite

00:35:41.080 disappointed

00:35:41.580 actually if

00:35:42.280 he went.

00:35:43.100 And here's

00:35:43.500 the reason.

00:35:44.860 If he

00:35:45.480 doesn't take

00:35:46.000 back the

00:35:46.600 fine people

00:35:47.220 hoax,

00:35:49.280 you can't

00:35:51.000 be okay

00:35:51.540 with that.

00:35:52.040 it would

00:35:53.800 be one

00:35:54.140 thing if

00:35:54.600 they lied

00:35:55.160 about each

00:35:55.700 other's

00:35:56.100 records,

00:35:57.000 standard

00:35:57.740 political

00:35:58.200 things,

00:35:59.000 but the

00:35:59.560 fine people

00:36:00.100 hoax,

00:36:01.520 you can't

00:36:02.180 be okay

00:36:03.580 with that.

00:36:04.420 You can

00:36:04.740 never be

00:36:05.240 okay with

00:36:05.720 that,

00:36:06.400 in my

00:36:06.960 opinion.

00:36:07.760 So I

00:36:08.080 would like

00:36:08.360 to see the

00:36:08.780 president say,

00:36:09.420 you know,

00:36:10.100 as long as you're

00:36:10.740 still spreading

00:36:11.460 that fine

00:36:11.940 people hoax,

00:36:12.820 you can go

00:36:14.020 it alone.

00:36:15.580 He won't

00:36:16.320 do that,

00:36:16.780 but it'd be

00:36:17.080 fun.

00:36:17.300 So I

00:36:22.100 had this

00:36:22.540 weird

00:36:23.080 experience of

00:36:24.360 I turn on

00:36:26.480 Hannity and

00:36:27.320 I'm watching

00:36:27.720 this video of

00:36:29.080 the Georgia

00:36:30.080 video that

00:36:30.800 looks like,

00:36:31.940 but I don't

00:36:32.440 think is,

00:36:33.620 massive voter

00:36:34.800 fraud.

00:36:35.940 And then I

00:36:36.380 turn it over

00:36:37.100 to CNN and

00:36:38.600 Anderson Cooper

00:36:39.400 is introducing

00:36:40.380 a clip of

00:36:41.520 the president

00:36:42.060 and Anderson

00:36:43.480 has this

00:36:44.240 exasperated,

00:36:46.020 disgusting look

00:36:47.000 that he

00:36:47.440 brings to

00:36:48.160 everything if

00:36:49.320 it's Trump

00:36:49.780 related.

00:36:50.680 So he tries

00:36:51.120 to get this

00:36:51.600 look like,

00:36:53.480 I'm not just

00:36:54.140 telling you

00:36:54.980 what's happening

00:36:55.660 and I'm not

00:36:56.960 just telling you

00:36:57.600 my opinion.

00:36:58.880 Look at how

00:36:59.680 I feel about

00:37:00.600 this.

00:37:02.060 So he's,

00:37:02.640 I'll try to

00:37:03.580 do my best.

00:37:04.280 Anderson is

00:37:05.360 really,

00:37:05.900 really disgusted

00:37:06.740 look.

00:37:08.120 And I think

00:37:08.540 it goes like

00:37:08.980 this.

00:37:10.040 And the

00:37:11.480 president,

00:37:12.600 this next

00:37:14.220 clip we're

00:37:14.980 going to

00:37:15.180 see,

00:37:15.440 he's just

00:37:17.280 turned into

00:37:17.720 some flimflam

00:37:18.800 man.

00:37:19.300 He actually

00:37:19.660 used that

00:37:20.060 term,

00:37:20.660 flimflam

00:37:21.300 man.

00:37:21.900 He said,

00:37:22.660 everything you're

00:37:23.880 going to see

00:37:24.300 in this clip

00:37:25.080 is false.

00:37:28.120 And I

00:37:28.720 thought to

00:37:29.000 myself,

00:37:29.420 this is going

00:37:29.860 to be good

00:37:30.300 because whatever

00:37:31.740 clip follows

00:37:32.680 that is going

00:37:34.260 to be some

00:37:34.700 super bullshit,

00:37:35.660 right?

00:37:36.320 And I'm

00:37:36.740 thinking,

00:37:37.420 you know,

00:37:38.000 Trump unleashed,

00:37:39.660 you know,

00:37:39.880 if he thinks,

00:37:40.600 if he comes to

00:37:41.200 think he's a

00:37:41.760 lame duck,

00:37:42.260 the things he

00:37:43.280 might say in

00:37:43.880 office are

00:37:44.760 going to be

00:37:45.080 really entertaining.

00:37:46.400 So I'm like,

00:37:46.980 oh,

00:37:47.160 okay,

00:37:47.460 I got to

00:37:47.780 see this.

00:37:48.820 If Anderson

00:37:49.300 Cooper says

00:37:49.960 there's not a

00:37:50.500 single true

00:37:51.820 statement in

00:37:52.600 this entire

00:37:53.160 clip,

00:37:54.080 this is going

00:37:54.560 to be some

00:37:54.920 good stuff.

00:37:56.200 And I

00:37:56.460 turn on the

00:37:56.900 clip and

00:37:58.400 everything the

00:37:59.580 president said

00:38:00.560 was true.

00:38:04.000 And I

00:38:04.680 thought,

00:38:05.280 what the

00:38:06.180 hell?

00:38:06.980 It is such

00:38:07.580 a mind

00:38:07.980 fuck to

00:38:09.000 see these

00:38:10.280 two worlds

00:38:10.820 side by

00:38:11.320 side.

00:38:12.180 Now,

00:38:12.360 as I

00:38:12.680 say,

00:38:13.840 you know,

00:38:15.960 maybe we're

00:38:16.780 all wrong

00:38:17.240 about what's

00:38:17.760 true,

00:38:18.300 but I

00:38:18.580 think Anderson

00:38:19.180 might be

00:38:19.900 the most

00:38:20.500 departed from

00:38:23.160 reality in

00:38:24.360 terms of

00:38:24.940 his vision

00:38:26.040 of President

00:38:26.640 Trump.

00:38:27.960 Apparently

00:38:28.500 Governor

00:38:28.920 Kemp in

00:38:29.820 Georgia is

00:38:30.840 asking the

00:38:31.760 Secretary of

00:38:33.040 State to

00:38:33.760 do a

00:38:34.100 signature

00:38:34.560 audit of

00:38:35.360 the votes.

00:38:36.860 I did

00:38:37.640 see a

00:38:38.020 tweet that

00:38:39.320 there were

00:38:39.740 a whole

00:38:39.980 bunch of

00:38:40.400 categories of

00:38:41.240 Georgia

00:38:41.600 votes that

00:38:42.280 they thought

00:38:42.740 were dead

00:38:43.840 people and

00:38:44.760 people too

00:38:45.660 young and

00:38:46.280 people moved

00:38:46.780 away and

00:38:47.340 they were

00:38:47.520 pretty big

00:38:47.940 numbers.

00:38:50.240 But that

00:38:51.460 tweet sort

00:38:52.040 of disappeared.

00:38:53.960 I feel as

00:38:55.040 if that

00:38:56.180 needs a

00:38:56.620 little more

00:38:57.080 credibility to

00:38:58.180 talk about

00:38:58.980 that.

00:38:59.620 Is it

00:39:00.040 true that

00:39:00.580 we have

00:39:01.740 information of

00:39:03.100 a whole bunch

00:39:03.620 of fraudulent

00:39:04.360 votes in

00:39:05.640 Georgia?

00:39:05.960 I saw a

00:39:07.380 tweet on

00:39:07.840 it.

00:39:08.020 Is that

00:39:08.520 real?

00:39:09.760 Or is

00:39:10.120 that just

00:39:10.440 somebody

00:39:10.740 alleging it

00:39:11.620 and then

00:39:12.140 was Matt

00:39:14.460 Brainerd

00:39:14.860 the source

00:39:16.320 of that

00:39:16.820 data?

00:39:17.760 So I

00:39:18.300 think that

00:39:19.160 some of

00:39:19.740 that requires

00:39:20.460 verification.

00:39:22.420 So in

00:39:22.680 other words,

00:39:23.320 if you think

00:39:24.320 that a number

00:39:24.940 of these are

00:39:25.320 dead people,

00:39:26.280 you really,

00:39:27.040 really need

00:39:27.400 to check to

00:39:28.100 make sure it's

00:39:28.560 not people

00:39:29.000 with the same

00:39:29.500 names,

00:39:30.100 etc.

00:39:30.300 Now of

00:39:30.880 course they

00:39:31.280 tried to

00:39:32.340 check for

00:39:32.800 that.

00:39:33.200 I know

00:39:33.400 Matt

00:39:33.640 Brainerd

00:39:34.120 would not

00:39:35.140 put out

00:39:35.620 any data

00:39:36.260 that had

00:39:36.620 an obvious

00:39:37.160 problem with

00:39:37.780 it.

00:39:38.700 So understand

00:39:39.860 this.

00:39:41.280 If Matt

00:39:41.960 Brainerd

00:39:42.440 put it

00:39:42.760 out,

00:39:43.860 it wouldn't

00:39:44.340 be any

00:39:44.960 obvious

00:39:45.420 problems

00:39:45.880 with it.

00:39:46.600 But it

00:39:46.900 would still

00:39:47.220 require

00:39:47.600 verification.

00:39:48.800 It could

00:39:49.060 be if you

00:39:49.480 dig down,

00:39:50.040 you find

00:39:50.360 out something

00:39:50.740 you didn't

00:39:51.040 know.

00:39:51.780 But there

00:39:52.280 won't be

00:39:52.560 anything

00:39:52.820 that's

00:39:53.100 intentionally

00:39:54.480 fraudulent

00:39:56.280 or obviously

00:39:57.280 wrong if

00:39:58.400 it's coming

00:39:58.860 from Matt

00:39:59.640 Brainerd.

00:40:00.080 but it

00:40:00.380 does

00:40:00.520 require

00:40:00.880 verification.

00:40:04.280 So we'll

00:40:06.780 see if that

00:40:07.220 produces

00:40:07.540 anything.

00:40:09.440 What do

00:40:09.920 you think

00:40:10.160 of the

00:40:10.440 Section 230

00:40:11.400 issue,

00:40:12.380 the issue

00:40:12.760 of whether

00:40:13.180 social media

00:40:14.020 should be

00:40:14.860 publishers?

00:40:17.320 Now President

00:40:17.920 Trump has

00:40:18.360 said he

00:40:18.600 won't sign

00:40:19.160 some

00:40:19.580 Defense

00:40:20.040 Authorization

00:40:20.700 Act unless

00:40:21.500 Section 230

00:40:23.580 gets removed

00:40:24.280 from social

00:40:24.960 media and

00:40:26.380 that would

00:40:26.800 make them

00:40:27.500 sueable.

00:40:28.500 So if

00:40:30.000 they lost

00:40:31.340 their protection

00:40:32.280 under Section

00:40:33.240 230, as I

00:40:34.280 understand it,

00:40:35.400 they would be

00:40:35.900 treated as

00:40:36.420 regular publishers

00:40:37.340 who can edit

00:40:38.900 things and not

00:40:40.020 edit things.

00:40:41.020 And if you can

00:40:41.720 edit what content

00:40:42.760 is on your

00:40:43.580 platform, that

00:40:45.520 makes you the

00:40:46.160 author in a way.

00:40:47.760 It makes you

00:40:48.440 responsible for

00:40:49.300 the content

00:40:49.900 because you had

00:40:51.120 a hand in

00:40:51.780 deciding whether

00:40:52.440 it was there

00:40:52.920 or not versus

00:40:54.360 the phone

00:40:54.820 company that you

00:40:56.040 make a phone

00:40:56.540 call and you

00:40:56.940 can say

00:40:57.220 whatever you

00:40:57.660 want.

00:40:58.000 It's not up

00:40:58.500 to the

00:40:58.720 phone company

00:40:59.220 and they're

00:40:59.640 not banning

00:41:00.660 anything in

00:41:01.840 a voice

00:41:02.360 call.

00:41:03.480 So a lot

00:41:04.940 of people

00:41:05.200 say, let's

00:41:07.280 get rid of

00:41:07.680 that Section

00:41:08.200 230 and

00:41:09.120 then the

00:41:09.900 social media

00:41:10.680 companies could

00:41:12.440 be sued

00:41:13.220 for, I

00:41:14.600 don't know,

00:41:15.900 throttling you

00:41:16.720 or doing

00:41:17.120 whatever they

00:41:17.600 do.

00:41:19.120 What do you

00:41:19.740 think would

00:41:20.080 be the

00:41:20.520 downside of

00:41:21.440 that?

00:41:21.740 what is

00:41:23.680 your, what

00:41:26.120 do you

00:41:26.360 believe would

00:41:27.240 happen if

00:41:28.860 Section 230

00:41:30.200 would remove?

00:41:30.960 Let me ask

00:41:31.520 you specifically.

00:41:32.840 Do you

00:41:33.060 think that

00:41:33.560 Twitter would

00:41:34.220 survive if

00:41:36.720 this protection

00:41:37.560 were removed?

00:41:39.580 Would

00:41:40.060 Twitter survive?

00:41:41.540 What do you

00:41:41.840 think?

00:41:42.740 I don't know

00:41:43.240 the answer to

00:41:43.680 that question,

00:41:44.240 by the way.

00:41:44.700 I want to

00:41:45.080 see what you

00:41:45.480 think.

00:41:46.420 Because it

00:41:47.120 seemed to me

00:41:47.560 they would

00:41:47.900 get sued if

00:41:50.400 they keep

00:41:50.820 things the

00:41:51.320 way they

00:41:51.660 are.

00:41:52.480 So what

00:41:52.780 would they

00:41:53.120 have to

00:41:53.700 do if

00:41:55.720 Section 230

00:41:56.760 were removed?

00:41:58.060 What would

00:41:58.740 Twitter have

00:41:59.440 to do?

00:42:01.400 They would

00:42:01.940 have to

00:42:02.260 remove anybody

00:42:03.860 who was at

00:42:04.580 risk.

00:42:06.340 So they

00:42:07.820 would have

00:42:08.060 to remove

00:42:08.580 anybody who

00:42:09.320 would say

00:42:09.960 something that

00:42:10.660 could put

00:42:11.160 them at

00:42:11.520 risk, which

00:42:12.500 would include

00:42:13.280 everybody you

00:42:14.880 like to

00:42:15.300 follow on

00:42:15.760 Twitter.

00:42:17.520 Twitter would

00:42:18.280 have to get

00:42:18.700 rid of

00:42:19.200 everybody,

00:42:20.820 who's

00:42:21.440 interesting.

00:42:22.520 Because it's

00:42:23.220 the interesting

00:42:23.880 people who

00:42:25.240 say things

00:42:25.860 that sometimes

00:42:26.500 are not

00:42:26.940 true.

00:42:28.060 Because they're

00:42:28.680 willing to

00:42:29.100 take a little

00:42:29.500 more risk.

00:42:30.600 That's what

00:42:31.100 makes them

00:42:31.480 interesting.

00:42:32.940 You saw me

00:42:33.860 be wrong

00:42:34.940 already at

00:42:36.580 least once

00:42:37.040 this morning.

00:42:38.040 Because I'm

00:42:38.640 one of those

00:42:39.080 people who

00:42:39.500 takes a

00:42:39.880 risk.

00:42:40.680 I'll take

00:42:41.920 things a

00:42:42.280 little farther

00:42:42.760 than maybe I

00:42:44.380 should.

00:42:44.940 And it's part

00:42:45.340 of the fun.

00:42:46.300 As long as I

00:42:46.860 tell you that's

00:42:47.360 what I'm doing.

00:42:47.900 I think that's

00:42:49.260 fair.

00:42:49.760 Because I tell

00:42:50.200 you I'm doing

00:42:50.640 it.

00:42:53.360 And somebody

00:42:54.040 says, who

00:42:54.700 cares?

00:42:56.280 Yeah, so

00:42:56.920 removing section

00:42:58.160 230 would

00:42:58.960 remove social

00:43:00.660 media from

00:43:02.280 the world.

00:43:03.160 Is that what

00:43:03.900 you want?

00:43:05.320 Now I haven't

00:43:06.100 heard the other

00:43:06.640 argument.

00:43:07.500 Now some of

00:43:08.000 you are thinking,

00:43:09.000 okay, I knew

00:43:10.420 I'd see the

00:43:10.940 comment here.

00:43:11.920 Somebody said,

00:43:13.100 that's okay,

00:43:14.080 I'll go to

00:43:14.580 Parler.

00:43:16.160 Parler dies the

00:43:17.420 same day.

00:43:18.080 You know

00:43:19.220 that, right?

00:43:20.760 Parler would

00:43:21.400 be in a

00:43:21.780 business same

00:43:23.480 day.

00:43:24.760 There's no

00:43:25.300 such thing as

00:43:26.020 Twitter going

00:43:26.760 in a business

00:43:27.340 because of

00:43:28.060 section 230 and

00:43:29.760 then Parler not

00:43:30.880 going in a

00:43:31.340 business.

00:43:32.600 It's the same

00:43:33.320 business.

00:43:34.420 They don't have

00:43:34.800 a choice.

00:43:35.380 Whatever happens

00:43:36.220 to one is going

00:43:36.840 to happen to

00:43:37.200 the other.

00:43:38.100 So if you want

00:43:38.820 them all to go

00:43:39.620 in a business,

00:43:40.520 that would be

00:43:41.040 the way to do

00:43:41.560 it.

00:43:41.780 But, is

00:43:45.760 there any

00:43:46.040 middle ground?

00:43:47.180 Is there a

00:43:47.740 middle ground

00:43:48.300 where there's

00:43:49.640 more transparency

00:43:50.660 and maybe some

00:43:51.580 appeals process?

00:43:53.080 Let me ask you

00:43:53.700 this.

00:43:54.360 If you had the

00:43:55.240 option of

00:43:57.340 transparency in

00:43:58.580 algorithms and

00:43:59.400 you actually felt

00:44:00.180 confident that it

00:44:01.080 really was

00:44:01.540 transparent, I

00:44:02.340 don't know how

00:44:03.020 you do that,

00:44:03.660 but let's say

00:44:04.500 you could get

00:44:04.920 there and you

00:44:06.020 could manage

00:44:06.580 your own

00:44:06.940 algorithm and

00:44:07.660 you could just

00:44:08.060 turn it off.

00:44:09.460 Let's say you

00:44:09.940 could just turn

00:44:10.420 it off and

00:44:11.220 you just see

00:44:11.800 things in the

00:44:12.400 order that they

00:44:13.060 come in.

00:44:14.000 It's everybody

00:44:14.660 that you follow

00:44:15.700 and that's it.

00:44:17.380 There's no

00:44:17.980 algorithm at all.

00:44:18.780 It just shows

00:44:19.180 you everything.

00:44:19.980 And you could

00:44:20.260 just click a

00:44:21.400 switch and get

00:44:21.960 that.

00:44:22.240 Would you be

00:44:22.580 happy with

00:44:22.940 that?

00:44:24.840 Because there

00:44:25.380 would be no

00:44:26.280 filtering.

00:44:27.700 You would just

00:44:28.380 push a button

00:44:28.960 and you personally

00:44:30.220 would never be

00:44:30.940 filtered.

00:44:32.140 How about, or

00:44:32.920 at least in terms

00:44:33.720 of the content

00:44:34.200 you get to see,

00:44:35.460 how about if

00:44:36.240 they added an

00:44:36.940 appeals process so

00:44:39.080 that some

00:44:39.520 independent non-Twitter

00:44:41.100 people who may

00:44:42.260 be selected

00:44:42.880 on some kind

00:44:44.080 of a temporary

00:44:45.140 term and

00:44:46.000 rotating, and

00:44:47.580 they look at

00:44:48.080 it and they

00:44:48.380 say, all right,

00:44:49.040 we don't work

00:44:50.060 for Twitter, we

00:44:51.060 just work for

00:44:51.720 the world, we're

00:44:52.740 just volunteering,

00:44:54.060 and in our

00:44:54.820 opinion, this

00:44:56.820 person was

00:44:57.360 suspended for a

00:44:58.080 while, but we

00:44:58.580 think a year is

00:44:59.340 long enough.

00:45:00.840 And so we

00:45:01.320 say, a year is

00:45:02.080 long enough, we'll

00:45:02.800 put you back on,

00:45:03.640 give you another

00:45:04.060 chance.

00:45:05.440 What if you had

00:45:06.180 that?

00:45:07.380 Would you be

00:45:08.240 happy with

00:45:10.100 transparent

00:45:11.180 algorithms plus

00:45:13.460 an appeals process

00:45:14.540 that was not

00:45:15.400 from Twitter, they

00:45:16.600 just use an

00:45:17.800 independent board

00:45:18.660 and take the

00:45:19.480 advice?

00:45:20.020 Could you work

00:45:21.040 with that?

00:45:23.620 Digital bill of

00:45:24.440 rights, yes.

00:45:25.380 I think there

00:45:26.040 should be a

00:45:26.620 digital bill of

00:45:27.520 rights for

00:45:30.080 exactly this sort

00:45:31.380 of thing.

00:45:32.000 So I'm looking

00:45:32.520 at your answers,

00:45:33.140 I see lots

00:45:34.120 of no's, lots

00:45:36.140 of no's, but

00:45:37.380 what would you

00:45:37.860 do instead?

00:45:40.500 Would you get

00:45:41.820 rid of it?

00:45:42.520 Because remember,

00:45:43.320 it's not just

00:45:43.740 Twitter.

00:45:44.660 Facebook goes,

00:45:45.960 Twitter goes,

00:45:47.840 Instagram goes.

00:45:49.860 Do we just get

00:45:50.540 rid of our most

00:45:52.180 important industries

00:45:53.380 in the United

00:45:53.940 States?

00:45:54.460 Because the

00:45:54.860 digital businesses

00:45:55.700 are the important

00:45:56.800 ones at this

00:45:57.320 point.

00:45:59.600 Somebody says

00:46:00.520 230 reform as

00:46:02.400 opposed to

00:46:03.080 removal.

00:46:03.780 Yeah, I think

00:46:04.300 what I'm talking

00:46:04.840 about is reform.

00:46:07.360 That's probably

00:46:08.080 a good way to

00:46:08.660 say it.

00:46:12.420 Somebody says

00:46:13.180 no censorship.

00:46:15.200 Well, but what

00:46:16.680 I said was you

00:46:17.820 could have an

00:46:18.600 option as a

00:46:19.440 user to push

00:46:20.900 a button and

00:46:22.400 you could have

00:46:23.080 censorship or

00:46:24.660 not have it.

00:46:25.660 It was just your

00:46:26.260 choice as a

00:46:26.920 consumer.

00:46:27.600 Is that a

00:46:28.560 problem?

00:46:29.520 Why would you

00:46:30.100 object to that?

00:46:30.820 Because the only

00:46:31.180 people who would

00:46:31.740 be censored

00:46:33.060 would be for

00:46:34.940 the audience

00:46:35.440 to say,

00:46:35.880 yeah, I want

00:46:36.400 you to censor

00:46:37.000 the bad stuff.

00:46:37.840 I don't want

00:46:38.200 to even see

00:46:38.720 it.

00:46:40.080 I might even

00:46:40.880 pick that

00:46:41.220 myself.

00:46:42.260 You know, if

00:46:42.520 I had that

00:46:43.000 option of

00:46:43.580 uncensored

00:46:44.340 versus censored,

00:46:47.000 don't assume

00:46:48.800 that I would

00:46:49.320 pick uncensored.

00:46:50.780 Don't assume

00:46:51.440 that.

00:46:51.820 I mean, I

00:46:52.140 might click

00:46:52.620 back and forth

00:46:53.280 once in a

00:46:53.680 while to make

00:46:54.060 sure I'm not

00:46:54.480 missing anything,

00:46:55.620 but I feel

00:46:56.180 like censored

00:46:58.080 has some value.

00:46:59.280 It just goes

00:46:59.780 too far and

00:47:00.460 might censor

00:47:00.980 more than I

00:47:01.480 want.

00:47:01.780 I'd want to

00:47:02.200 see both.

00:47:06.840 Town Square,

00:47:07.920 free speech.

00:47:09.840 Yeah.

00:47:10.520 You know, I

00:47:11.760 feel, and I

00:47:12.620 made the same

00:47:13.440 argument a

00:47:14.580 million years

00:47:15.080 ago when

00:47:15.580 Tipper Gore,

00:47:16.480 Al Gore's

00:47:17.040 wife, was

00:47:18.240 railing to

00:47:19.060 add, she

00:47:21.600 wanted to

00:47:22.220 add warning

00:47:23.020 labels to

00:47:23.740 music.

00:47:24.940 And any of

00:47:25.640 you who are

00:47:25.980 old enough to

00:47:26.560 remember this,

00:47:27.600 remember there

00:47:28.220 was a big

00:47:28.620 kerfuffle and

00:47:29.560 people said,

00:47:30.140 hey, free

00:47:30.620 speech, free

00:47:31.360 speech, stop

00:47:32.680 putting warning

00:47:33.600 labels of

00:47:34.440 profanity on

00:47:35.300 my product.

00:47:37.640 And I

00:47:37.920 said, now of

00:47:39.180 course I like

00:47:39.700 as much freedom

00:47:40.440 as possible, but

00:47:41.720 I said, that's

00:47:42.440 not decreasing

00:47:43.160 your freedom,

00:47:44.400 that's actually

00:47:45.260 increasing it,

00:47:47.580 meaning that

00:47:48.300 the consumer

00:47:49.400 has more

00:47:51.500 freedom because

00:47:53.100 they have more

00:47:53.640 information.

00:47:54.760 The more

00:47:55.340 information you

00:47:56.100 have that you

00:47:56.680 can act on

00:47:57.380 gives you,

00:47:58.860 in effect,

00:47:59.460 more freedom.

00:48:00.620 So by

00:48:01.240 putting a

00:48:01.680 warning label

00:48:02.300 on some

00:48:03.020 types of

00:48:03.640 content, the

00:48:04.620 consumer knows

00:48:06.360 more.

00:48:07.580 I would say

00:48:08.200 that expands

00:48:08.940 their freedom

00:48:09.500 because the

00:48:10.660 more you

00:48:11.040 know, the

00:48:11.540 more you

00:48:11.860 can make

00:48:12.300 smart, free

00:48:14.440 choices.

00:48:15.420 A dumb

00:48:16.000 free choice,

00:48:18.100 meaning that

00:48:18.600 you had

00:48:18.840 freedom, but

00:48:19.940 you didn't

00:48:20.260 know anything,

00:48:20.960 so you made

00:48:21.640 a bad choice.

00:48:22.680 Well, I

00:48:23.060 guess that's

00:48:23.520 freedom, but

00:48:24.640 it's not a

00:48:25.040 good kind.

00:48:25.620 I'd rather

00:48:27.360 have the

00:48:28.500 good kind

00:48:28.960 of freedom

00:48:29.320 where I

00:48:29.660 have all

00:48:29.960 the information

00:48:30.560 and then

00:48:30.920 it's just

00:48:31.220 up to me.

00:48:32.640 So I

00:48:33.360 argued that

00:48:34.380 labeling

00:48:35.240 things is

00:48:36.560 just always

00:48:37.020 useful, it's

00:48:37.560 just a

00:48:37.860 service that

00:48:38.660 has nothing

00:48:39.240 to do with

00:48:39.680 decreasing your

00:48:40.280 freedom.

00:48:45.480 230 is not

00:48:46.280 the problem,

00:48:46.920 it's letting

00:48:47.420 Twitter use

00:48:48.220 it as a

00:48:48.880 shield while

00:48:49.780 breaking its

00:48:50.500 rules.

00:48:51.040 Okay, so

00:48:52.720 there's an

00:48:53.120 argument which

00:48:53.900 is that the

00:48:55.560 problem is not

00:48:56.420 the legislation,

00:48:58.760 it's keeping

00:48:59.860 Twitter to

00:49:00.540 it.

00:49:02.120 You know,

00:49:03.180 I have a

00:49:05.640 philosophy that

00:49:06.640 I know a lot

00:49:07.180 of you don't

00:49:07.660 share, which

00:49:08.860 is that mistakes

00:49:10.820 that get

00:49:11.340 corrected are

00:49:13.180 not the same

00:49:13.900 as mistakes,

00:49:15.440 just plain

00:49:16.260 mistakes.

00:49:17.280 Because we

00:49:18.140 live in a

00:49:18.600 messy world,

00:49:19.340 and if you

00:49:19.640 start blaming

00:49:20.360 everybody who

00:49:21.240 makes a

00:49:21.700 temporary

00:49:22.100 mistake that

00:49:23.460 then they

00:49:23.900 immediately

00:49:24.360 apologize for

00:49:25.420 and correct,

00:49:26.880 I just can't

00:49:28.380 get mad at

00:49:28.900 people for

00:49:29.340 that.

00:49:30.400 Like, even

00:49:30.840 if it's bad

00:49:31.560 for me,

00:49:32.460 you know,

00:49:32.920 I'm still

00:49:33.940 going to say,

00:49:34.540 yeah, it

00:49:35.160 would have

00:49:35.340 been better

00:49:35.720 if it was

00:49:36.060 perfect from

00:49:36.600 the start,

00:49:37.240 but anybody

00:49:38.180 who fixes

00:49:38.920 something that's

00:49:39.720 wrong and

00:49:40.220 does it

00:49:40.500 legitimately is

00:49:41.900 a hero in

00:49:42.780 my mind,

00:49:43.380 because there

00:49:44.380 aren't enough

00:49:44.820 of those.

00:49:45.360 So in

00:49:45.720 Twitter's case,

00:49:47.060 if I may

00:49:48.020 defend them a

00:49:49.440 bit,

00:49:50.360 I would

00:49:50.720 say that

00:49:51.360 you've

00:49:52.360 heard Jack

00:49:53.140 say,

00:49:53.720 when challenged

00:49:54.480 about specific

00:49:55.380 things that

00:49:55.980 got suspended,

00:49:57.260 you've heard

00:49:57.740 Jack say that

00:49:58.520 was a mistake,

00:49:59.960 we reversed it.

00:50:02.020 Now, you

00:50:02.800 certainly need a

00:50:03.480 system for

00:50:04.300 which alleged

00:50:05.760 mistakes get a

00:50:06.840 hearing, that

00:50:07.680 may be the

00:50:08.140 part of the

00:50:08.520 system that's

00:50:09.580 missing, but

00:50:10.740 if you have a

00:50:11.260 company that's

00:50:11.840 willing to

00:50:12.300 say, you

00:50:12.920 know, put the

00:50:13.840 head of the

00:50:14.240 company on and

00:50:15.220 the public and

00:50:16.140 say, in

00:50:17.300 direct words,

00:50:19.080 you know, no

00:50:19.680 weaseling, no

00:50:21.920 excuse, there

00:50:24.060 was no excuse

00:50:24.760 offered, that

00:50:26.040 was a mistake,

00:50:27.740 we fixed it.

00:50:29.740 I don't have a

00:50:30.720 problem with

00:50:31.060 that, as long

00:50:32.880 as there's a

00:50:33.340 system for, you

00:50:34.360 know, the

00:50:35.280 alleged mistakes.

00:50:39.880 Do we need

00:50:41.360 230?

00:50:42.800 Yeah, I don't

00:50:43.400 know.

00:50:43.560 If you give

00:50:44.440 me options as

00:50:45.260 a consumer, I

00:50:46.060 don't care about

00:50:46.580 any of that.

00:50:47.400 I'll just pick

00:50:47.900 the one I like

00:50:48.640 and I'll be

00:50:49.280 happy because I'll

00:50:50.140 feel like I

00:50:50.660 picked it.

00:50:51.700 Right now, part

00:50:52.380 of the problem

00:50:52.800 is that as a

00:50:54.120 consumer, you

00:50:54.840 don't feel like

00:50:55.400 you got the

00:50:56.020 choice.

00:50:57.420 You know, you

00:50:57.700 could be, yeah,

00:51:00.260 I forgot my

00:51:01.660 ring next to my

00:51:02.780 drum kit.

00:51:04.020 If you're, you

00:51:05.300 guys are so

00:51:06.100 observant, you

00:51:07.600 notice my ring

00:51:08.320 isn't on.

00:51:09.120 I have to take

00:51:09.780 my ring off to

00:51:11.060 practice my drums

00:51:12.340 because it hits

00:51:13.260 the ring, hits

00:51:13.940 the stick.

00:51:18.660 All right.

00:51:20.080 You debunked

00:51:21.020 the wrong

00:51:21.420 video, somebody

00:51:22.160 says.

00:51:25.840 I debunked

00:51:26.860 the wrong

00:51:27.260 video.

00:51:29.680 Well, I

00:51:30.420 debunked the

00:51:31.060 video I saw

00:51:31.880 and the one

00:51:32.680 that's going

00:51:33.060 around.

00:51:35.360 Somebody says

00:51:36.200 there's two

00:51:36.740 videos, James

00:51:38.140 Dixon says.

00:51:39.580 Well, why don't

00:51:40.340 you tweet me

00:51:41.080 the other

00:51:41.600 video?

00:51:43.260 Just for fun.

00:51:45.940 I believe that

00:51:46.920 that's not

00:51:47.420 true, James.

00:51:49.820 I see your

00:51:50.560 comment, but

00:51:51.200 tweet it at

00:51:51.660 me.

00:51:52.140 I believe there

00:51:52.820 are not two

00:51:53.560 videos.

00:51:55.680 Oh, there's

00:51:56.240 another video

00:51:56.820 with a blonde

00:51:57.780 and a thumb

00:51:58.380 drive.

00:51:58.720 I did see

00:51:59.180 that one.

00:51:59.720 Is that the

00:52:00.080 one you're

00:52:00.360 talking about?

00:52:00.760 I saw the

00:52:02.000 one with the

00:52:02.600 blonde and

00:52:03.740 she surreptitiously

00:52:05.480 had something

00:52:06.020 in her hand.

00:52:07.120 I give that

00:52:07.760 zero credibility.

00:52:10.040 Zero.

00:52:10.900 Because you

00:52:11.200 can't really

00:52:11.620 tell what's

00:52:12.020 going on in

00:52:12.540 the video.

00:52:13.260 You could

00:52:13.640 imagine it's

00:52:14.320 something bad

00:52:14.980 and you could

00:52:15.900 imagine it's

00:52:16.540 not.

00:52:18.700 I don't think

00:52:19.680 there's anything

00:52:20.080 else you can

00:52:20.560 say from that.

00:52:21.300 somebody says

00:52:25.740 there's a

00:52:26.120 Georgia State

00:52:27.040 vid.

00:52:28.100 All right,

00:52:28.360 well, just send

00:52:28.840 it to me and

00:52:29.460 I'll talk about

00:52:30.060 that.

00:52:30.400 But the one

00:52:30.780 I saw is

00:52:32.680 the one I

00:52:33.040 talked to.

00:52:36.620 That's all I

00:52:37.240 got for now

00:52:37.800 and I will

00:52:38.540 talk to you

00:52:39.240 later.

00:52:44.660 All right,

00:52:45.280 YouTube.

00:52:46.280 What song am I

00:52:47.200 practicing on the

00:52:48.240 drums?

00:52:49.000 I'm watching a

00:52:50.120 drummer called

00:52:50.840 Sina or

00:52:51.920 Sina.

00:52:52.740 I don't know

00:52:53.040 how to pronounce

00:52:53.640 it.

00:52:53.940 S-I-N-A.

00:52:55.240 It's a young

00:52:56.040 woman who's a

00:52:56.760 drummer and

00:52:57.220 she does a

00:52:59.080 lot of the

00:53:00.300 oldies like

00:53:01.420 the Beatles,

00:53:02.060 etc.

00:53:02.340 So I've been

00:53:02.740 trying to copy

00:53:03.500 Ringo Starr,

00:53:04.740 which is tough

00:53:05.780 because he's

00:53:06.180 left-handed.

00:53:10.140 Talent

00:53:10.620 stacking the

00:53:11.320 guitar.

00:53:12.140 Yeah.

00:53:13.840 Oh, is it

00:53:14.240 pronounced Sina?

00:53:15.420 Somebody says

00:53:16.180 that her name

00:53:17.180 is pronounced

00:53:17.620 Sina.

00:53:18.860 Yeah, and

00:53:19.440 by the way,

00:53:20.100 speaking of

00:53:20.680 talent stacks,

00:53:21.820 let me talk

00:53:22.460 about this.

00:53:22.980 So it's a

00:53:23.520 young woman

00:53:23.980 who plays

00:53:25.120 drums on

00:53:25.960 YouTube and

00:53:26.900 she's got over

00:53:27.520 a million

00:53:27.900 followers and

00:53:29.440 she's been

00:53:30.120 doing it for

00:53:30.580 years since I

00:53:31.380 think she was

00:53:31.780 a teenager.

00:53:32.600 She must be

00:53:33.100 in her 20s

00:53:34.040 now.

00:53:34.980 And watching

00:53:36.160 her compile

00:53:37.480 her talent

00:53:38.500 stack is

00:53:39.820 really fun

00:53:40.480 because you

00:53:40.860 can watch the

00:53:41.400 videos over

00:53:42.100 time and see

00:53:42.820 when she's

00:53:43.240 young all the

00:53:43.760 way to

00:53:44.060 current.

00:53:45.580 And she

00:53:45.800 started out

00:53:46.340 just being a

00:53:47.760 teenager who

00:53:48.380 was pretty

00:53:48.800 good at

00:53:49.160 drums and

00:53:49.800 so she

00:53:50.720 did some

00:53:51.140 YouTube

00:53:51.520 videos.

00:53:52.820 And then

00:53:53.220 she started

00:53:54.060 adding to

00:53:54.660 her talent

00:53:55.040 stack so

00:53:55.700 then she

00:53:56.000 was good

00:53:56.360 at presenting

00:53:57.060 and she

00:53:58.460 got her

00:53:59.540 lighting and

00:54:00.280 her video

00:54:00.980 and then she

00:54:01.800 had pop-up

00:54:03.100 windows so you

00:54:04.420 could see her

00:54:04.840 feet working

00:54:05.600 while she was

00:54:06.240 drumming.

00:54:07.440 And she

00:54:08.500 really put

00:54:09.800 together quite

00:54:10.440 a talent stack

00:54:11.180 there.

00:54:11.480 I would guess

00:54:11.940 she makes

00:54:12.420 one to two

00:54:13.740 million dollars a

00:54:14.640 year.

00:54:14.900 and if

00:54:16.240 you told

00:54:16.580 me what

00:54:17.120 is her

00:54:17.480 one talent

00:54:18.340 what's the

00:54:19.420 one thing

00:54:20.040 that makes

00:54:21.140 her worth

00:54:21.560 millions of

00:54:22.160 dollars a

00:54:22.620 year?

00:54:23.120 Let's say

00:54:23.480 at least a

00:54:23.940 million dollars

00:54:24.500 a year.

00:54:25.320 I would say

00:54:26.000 well she's

00:54:26.900 really good

00:54:27.300 at drums

00:54:27.760 but I'll

00:54:28.840 bet you

00:54:29.140 you could

00:54:29.500 find I

00:54:31.120 don't know

00:54:31.500 maybe 20,000

00:54:33.800 people who

00:54:34.560 could play

00:54:34.980 drums really

00:54:35.660 well.

00:54:36.860 And what

00:54:38.520 makes her

00:54:38.880 different is

00:54:39.460 that she

00:54:39.720 added those

00:54:40.220 other talents

00:54:41.540 plus she's a

00:54:42.480 woman so it

00:54:43.920 makes it a

00:54:44.260 little more

00:54:44.540 interesting

00:54:44.880 because there

00:54:45.260 are fewer

00:54:45.660 female drummers.

00:54:50.360 Fulton County

00:54:51.340 certified the

00:54:52.200 election you

00:54:52.700 said?

00:54:53.940 Okay.

00:54:57.460 Somebody says

00:54:58.320 unsubscribed

00:54:59.140 this guy is

00:55:00.180 lying we will

00:55:01.120 not accept a

00:55:01.960 fraudulent

00:55:02.440 election.

00:55:11.640 So somebody

00:55:12.540 says there's

00:55:13.120 an arena

00:55:13.660 video and

00:55:14.800 a state

00:55:15.340 video.

00:55:17.260 If it's a

00:55:18.020 video of the

00:55:18.560 same room

00:55:19.200 at the same

00:55:19.720 time I don't

00:55:20.640 know that that

00:55:21.100 would be

00:55:21.340 different.

00:55:23.580 So it was

00:55:24.260 the Georgia

00:55:24.720 state video

00:55:25.380 that was

00:55:25.660 debunked and

00:55:26.560 not the

00:55:27.060 arena security

00:55:28.100 video.

00:55:28.700 Are you

00:55:28.880 talking about

00:55:29.260 the same

00:55:29.580 room?

00:55:30.540 Because if

00:55:31.080 it's the

00:55:31.320 same room

00:55:31.740 it doesn't

00:55:32.120 matter.

00:55:32.620 It's the

00:55:32.900 same video.

00:55:35.040 No, the

00:55:35.560 cubicle video.

00:55:36.600 Oh, there's

00:55:37.820 another video

00:55:38.440 of somebody

00:55:39.480 going to a

00:55:40.080 cubicle but

00:55:40.740 there's not

00:55:41.220 enough information

00:55:42.020 on that to

00:55:42.920 have an opinion

00:55:44.660 yet.

00:55:47.000 Yeah.

00:55:47.940 So if there's

00:55:48.620 one thing that

00:55:49.280 you should learn

00:55:50.040 in 2020,

00:55:51.340 it's this.

00:55:52.940 The one thing

00:55:53.760 you should learn

00:55:54.280 in 2020 is

00:55:55.300 you can't

00:55:55.820 trust video.

00:55:56.460 But for

00:55:58.720 the troll

00:56:00.320 who said

00:56:00.780 that you

00:56:01.080 should

00:56:01.260 unsubscribe

00:56:01.880 from this

00:56:03.260 channel,

00:56:04.380 apparently you

00:56:05.440 missed the

00:56:05.740 whole first

00:56:06.140 part because

00:56:07.600 I'm the guy

00:56:08.480 who says

00:56:09.060 you don't

00:56:09.460 even need

00:56:09.980 evidence.

00:56:10.740 I'm the guy

00:56:11.160 who says

00:56:11.620 you can

00:56:12.500 guarantee

00:56:13.000 that the

00:56:13.500 election was

00:56:14.040 stolen because

00:56:15.480 of the

00:56:15.940 setup because

00:56:16.740 it was easy

00:56:17.360 and they had

00:56:17.780 a high motive

00:56:18.320 to do it.

00:56:18.840 So of course

00:56:19.220 it was stolen.

00:56:20.280 There's no

00:56:20.760 other way it

00:56:21.460 can go.

00:56:22.480 So to the

00:56:23.460 troll who is

00:56:24.640 completely

00:56:25.100 misinterpreted,

00:56:26.460 me 100%,

00:56:28.140 just because

00:56:30.200 I don't buy

00:56:31.220 every piece

00:56:31.920 of evidence

00:56:32.600 doesn't mean

00:56:33.960 it isn't

00:56:34.520 guaranteed that

00:56:35.180 the election

00:56:35.600 was stolen.

00:56:36.360 Of course

00:56:36.680 it was stolen.

00:56:39.040 Can I

00:56:39.720 prove it?

00:56:40.360 Probably

00:56:40.700 nobody can.

00:56:41.700 My guess

00:56:42.180 is that it

00:56:42.580 will not be

00:56:43.060 proven.

00:56:43.820 It's just

00:56:44.280 it had to

00:56:45.140 happen.

00:56:47.500 Epoch Time

00:56:48.200 has a video

00:56:48.900 of suitcases.

00:56:51.040 They do?

00:56:52.920 Okay.

00:56:53.360 somebody says

00:56:57.040 Scott is

00:56:57.640 conceding.

00:56:59.380 No,

00:56:59.600 Scott is

00:57:00.000 predicting.

00:57:01.500 Scott is

00:57:02.060 predicting.

00:57:03.500 It's different.

00:57:05.120 I'm not

00:57:05.520 actually running

00:57:06.660 for president

00:57:07.120 so I don't

00:57:07.560 get to

00:57:07.880 concede or

00:57:08.480 not to

00:57:08.820 concede.

00:57:09.580 But I

00:57:09.940 can predict.

00:57:12.900 And by

00:57:13.340 the way,

00:57:14.000 don't

00:57:16.100 mistake

00:57:16.760 strategy for

00:57:18.340 surrender.

00:57:18.800 you do

00:57:20.600 know that

00:57:21.580 if things

00:57:22.220 go the

00:57:22.660 way the

00:57:24.020 pundits

00:57:24.460 seem to

00:57:24.980 think it

00:57:25.280 will go

00:57:25.640 and Biden

00:57:26.900 takes office,

00:57:27.940 you do

00:57:28.500 know it

00:57:28.880 will largely

00:57:29.640 destroy the

00:57:30.480 Democrat

00:57:30.820 party,

00:57:31.380 right?

00:57:31.900 If you

00:57:32.500 want that,

00:57:33.920 that I

00:57:34.500 don't see

00:57:34.900 it could go

00:57:35.340 any other

00:57:35.700 way,

00:57:36.020 really.

00:57:36.720 I know

00:57:37.060 there's some

00:57:37.400 people saying

00:57:37.860 oh,

00:57:38.220 they'll

00:57:38.420 control

00:57:38.840 everything

00:57:39.220 by changing

00:57:40.540 the laws

00:57:41.100 and stuff.

00:57:41.720 But as

00:57:41.920 long as

00:57:42.300 the Republicans

00:57:43.680 hold the

00:57:44.200 Senate,

00:57:45.400 which is

00:57:45.800 still a

00:57:46.140 chance,

00:57:46.740 I think

00:57:47.040 that election

00:57:47.960 will be

00:57:48.260 rigged as

00:57:48.700 well.

00:57:49.120 But if

00:57:49.660 the Republicans

00:57:51.280 hold the

00:57:51.780 Senate,

00:57:52.880 you just

00:57:53.240 have to

00:57:53.500 wait two

00:57:53.940 years and

00:57:54.640 Congress

00:57:55.500 will turn

00:57:55.980 Republican

00:57:56.540 and two

00:57:57.860 more years

00:57:58.440 and Republicans

00:57:59.700 will own

00:58:00.240 everything,

00:58:01.020 if that's

00:58:01.380 what you

00:58:01.620 want.

00:58:02.960 So don't

00:58:03.560 think in

00:58:05.720 terms of

00:58:06.240 retreat or

00:58:07.660 giving up,

00:58:08.900 thinking about

00:58:09.800 short-term

00:58:10.820 or long-term.

00:58:12.400 That's the

00:58:12.980 frame you

00:58:13.340 should look.

00:58:13.760 All right,

00:58:14.080 that's enough

00:58:14.400 for now.

00:58:15.480 Talk to you

00:58:15.980 tomorrow.

00:58:17.960 Bye.

00:58:19.060 Bye.

00:58:19.720 Bye.

00:58:19.860 Bye.

00:58:20.200 Bye.

00:58:23.460 Bye.

00:58:27.240 Bye.

00:58:38.260 Bye.

00:58:39.720 Bye.

00:58:39.780 Bye.

00:58:41.840 Bye.

00:58:42.800 Bye.

00:58:42.860 Bye.

00:58:45.320 Bye.

00:58:46.940 Bye.

00:58:47.220 Bye.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - December 04, 2020

Episode 1207 Scott Adams： Let Me Explain the GA Ballot-Suitcase Video Fake and Why it Looks so Compelling

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