Episode 1256 Scott Adams： Grading the News Networks on HOAX Reporting, Impeachment Trial Fun, and More
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In this episode of Coffee with Scott Adams, host Scott Adams talks about whether or not the current pandemic is a real one, and why he doesn't think it's a real pandemic. Plus, a new poll suggests that it's become embarrassing to become a Republican or Democrat.
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There's a Gallup poll out that says that the current breakdown of Republicans, Democrats and Independents looks like this.
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Republicans, only 25% of the public says they are Republicans now.
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So it turns out that it's become embarrassing to become a Republican or a Democrat.
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It's actually embarrassing to say you're a member of either party, according to these numbers,
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because it seems that the independents have swelled in size.
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There's no such thing as an actual independent.
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They are actually Republicans, effectively, the way they vote.
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Or they are actually just Democrats, effectively, the way they vote.
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So I think this just tells us that we've embarrassed each other to the point where we're no longer willing to say what we are out loud.
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Or at least 41% of the people would prefer it that way.
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On the super bad news, we're up to 400,000 deaths from COVID.
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If you were one of the people who, early on in the pandemic, said,
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Is there anybody out there who said, I think this is just the regular flu?
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It used to be, every time I went on social media, there would be, you know,
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one of the biggest categories of topics were people debunking the pandemic because it's not real.
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But, oh, okay, I'm answering the question I was going to get to.
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I was going to ask how many people could look at this now and still think that it's not a real pandemic.
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And I'm looking in the comments, and there's a tremendous number of you think that it's all still made up.
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We're in a very bad place, people, when we can't tell if we're in a pandemic or not.
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I would say that's as bad as you could get in terms of the reliability of your information.
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Suppose you lived in a country where the news on both sides was actually attempting to be objective.
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What if both the left and the right told you, oh, it's a real pandemic, this one's real?
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We're at a point where nobody believes anything in the news anymore.
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It doesn't matter if your side says it or the other side says it.
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Now, it could be that there's no apparent flu this year because the social distancing is so good.
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And maybe the regular flu is not as aerosoled and spready as COVID is.
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Or my hypothesis that the regular flu was never killing anybody anyway and that they scare you to take the vaccinations, but you've never met anybody in your whole life who ever died from the regular flu.
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Never even heard of anybody dying of the flu, the regular flu.
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But 400,000 people I've heard of dying of this one, and I've heard of real people with real names that, you know, people I know, that people know them, etc., who have died just this year.
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So I'm pretty sure the pandemic's real, people.
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If you're still in the camp that this is all an artifact of bad data, I feel like 400,000 reported deaths would be about the time you should change your mind.
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I don't think you will because that's not how cognitive dissonance works.
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All right, now let me take the counterpoint to that.
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I don't know how dependable this is, probably not terribly.
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But it says that half or two-thirds of the deaths in the UK are people who would have died that year anyway.
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Is the final year of your life, is that a good one?
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But if you're looking at how many people are dying from this, is it fair to say that the ones who are going to die that year anyway
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don't count as much as somebody dying when they're 15, for example?
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Now, that's one of those things you're not supposed to say out loud, but we all intuitively think the 15-year-old,
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you don't want to say is worth more because that's not a place you want to go to.
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But you could certainly say they have more life left.
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They have more to contribute, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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They may not be loved any more than the 81-year-old.
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But I think it is fair to consider when you're looking at deaths that not all deaths are the same.
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And in a very real way, if we were making the decisions ourselves, let's say you had to make a decision for your family members
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and somebody has to die, the teenager or the 90-year-old.
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Well, you'd pick the 90-year-old every time, right?
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So it's hard to get a number that makes sense for this because 400,000 deaths, what if 300,000 of them were going to die anyway in a year?
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Have you noticed there's always this guy on Twitter?
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And you're going to recognize this guy as soon as I say it.
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So this guy, who I'll refer to him generically as just this guy, there's always this guy.
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If you bring up Lincoln's assassination, there will be a bunch of comments in your thread, but one of them will always be from this guy.
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And this guy will say, Scott, Lincoln's death was a tragedy to his family.
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There's always this guy who thinks it's too soon.
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Sometimes there are situations which can be part tragic, but there's a part of it that's not tragic, might even be positive, paired with something tragic.
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If I say that something tragic happened, say, Lincoln was assassinated, that doesn't mean you need to go into my Twitter feed and tell me that there was some bad news associated with his assassination and that I should consider that a little bit more.
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Because I will take it as a stipulation that should I mention anything which also has a tragedy as part of it, that the tragedy still counts, even if there's something else to talk about.
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You just don't need to tell me every single tweet that something bad happened too.
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I wonder if controversial police shootings are going to be done for a while.
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I wonder if a Biden administration will change the nature of what news gets promoted to the top of the pile.
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Sometimes the news is so big that, of course, it's the headline.
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But most of the time, the news is what the news people decide to talk about.
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They could be talking about, I'll just pick a topic, the fact that a lot of researchers think that microdosing LSD could be an end to mental illness problems, at least for some large number of people.
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But it's nothing but a tweet and a minor story today because the people who make the news have decided that's not a story.
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To me, if I were the one making the news and I got to decide what you talked about, that'd be right near the top of the list.
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Imagine that there's an existing chemical, widely available, basically close to free.
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And that it might solve most of the mental health problems in this country.
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That's actually what's being talked about by people who are looking into it.
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That it's so powerful, it might be one of the most amazing miracle cures, actual cure, of some of the biggest problems in the country.
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But if somebody dies in a police shooting that has some ambiguity, boom, it's a headline.
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So always understand that the news is not because the news is necessarily the important stuff.
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It's the stuff that the people who bring you the news have decided they want to be front and center in your brain.
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When they talk about TV schedules and what segments are in those schedules, they talk about that as programming.
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Well, you thought that they were programming their show, and in a sense they are.
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Because what they put in the front of your brain, figuratively speaking, the front,
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the thing that you think about the most becomes your reality.
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Things that you don't think about are not your reality, even though they are your reality.
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So the news is programming you, directly and intentionally.
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When they say this will be your top story, they're saying,
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I'm going to put that in the top of your brains,
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and I'm going to make everybody in the country think about this.
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It changes the actual physical structure, just like every experience does, of your brain.
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And they do that intentionally and daily, and in a way that affects billions.
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So I'm wondering if the number of controversial police shootings might be exactly the same,
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because I don't know that anything has really changed, right?
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We haven't come up with any great ideas for making questionable shootings go away.
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So if we see a great reduction in the apparent number of them,
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that would be another clue that your news industry is really a propaganda industry.
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Unless there's something you can identify that's different about how the police forces are handling situations,
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But if you hear that nothing big is different in terms of police work,
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but the number of weird shootings and controversial ones goes down,
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that's probably because the propaganda engine made a decision.
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Senator Graham, Lindsey Graham, has called on Chuck Schumer to dismiss the impeachment articles
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against Trump in the Senate so that they wouldn't have a Senate trial.
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And Lindsey Graham says, because it will, quote, incite further division.
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Now, when you say incite further division, is that much different than inciting violence?
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Well, it is, you know, it's tactically different.
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Inciting division is not exactly the same as inciting violence.
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But is there any adult who thinks that if you were to incite further division,
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in our current environment, that it would not likely cause, just common sense,
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likely cause a higher risk of death and or violence?
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Of course. Of course. Of course they are related, if not exactly the same.
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So inciting division isn't inciting violence, but in our current environment,
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Now, we don't know. It's not guaranteed that there will be any violence.
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But if you've lived in the real world, it would be reasonable to expect there would be.
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How is what Schumer is doing today any different than what President Trump did
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when the Capitol was being assaulted in terms of his rhetoric and not saying enough to stop it?
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Is it functionally different? Because I don't see it as different.
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What I see right now is Schumer and the rest of the Senate, the Democrats in the Senate,
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doing actively right now, like right now, as I'm talking,
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are committing the crime or offense, if you will,
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the offense that they want to impeach the president for.
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Actually doing the same offense right now while I'm talking.
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And nobody wants to sort of bring up the obvious that,
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Schumer, you're doing the impeachable offense right now.
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Is there anybody who's a Democrat who's going to say,
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Doing things that even both sides would agree would be divisive.
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That doing these things that we all agree are divisive during a moment when there's a match
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and a bunch of gasoline all gathering in Washington, D.C.,
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immediately after we saw that same situation escalate out of control
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so we don't have to wonder if it could, because it just did.
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I think he has to be impeached if he goes ahead with it and there's any violence.
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And I think the Republicans should tell them that up front.
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They should say, look, you have every right to pursue this.
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But we're telling you with complete confidence this will lead to violence.
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Now, of course, they'll say, no, and we have to do this anyway, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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If the Republicans don't nail them to the floor to make them stick to their own standard,
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which means impeaching Schumer the moment he's done, or actually the moment he starts.
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The moment Schumer starts the impeachment, Lindsey Graham should introduce, or whoever,
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should, in the House, I guess, introduce articles of impeachment.
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And they should play it like they are not kidding.
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Because if the standard is that Trump's rhetoric caused incitement of violence,
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and I think it's a reasonable argument, in my opinion,
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then you just have to use the same standard, or you've got to treat them the same.
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Because it's short enough, and it's catchy, makes a good acronym, MAGA.
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President Trump really knew how to do branding.
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America first, except when getting revenge on Republicans,
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That feels like about the maximum number of words you want in a slogan.
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America first, except when getting revenge on Republicans,
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I feel like they should work on that a little bit more.
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Jake Tapper refers to the doubts about the election as the big lie.
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If the news people who are not just reporting and giving you their opinion,
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but they're offended, if you look at Jake Tapper,
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he looks like he is personally bothered by this stuff.
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And when he talks about people doubting the election integrity as the big lie,
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it sounds like something he cares about quite a bit,
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and he puts a lot of emotion into it, or at least apparent emotion.
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I can't read his mind, but it looks like emotion.
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Because somebody who cares this much about this topic,
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you would feel that that same person who really thinks this is a big, big issue,
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And yet, everything we know about our current system
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it's interesting that you'd be offended by something you don't want to fix,
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they were screeching at Mark Zuckerberg on the show today,
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I can put pictures in a lot of different places,
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I'll go to check to see if something about my stepdaughter is there,
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I don't even know what the point of Facebook is.
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I feel as though if a billion people are using something every day,
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can get you exposure if you're in the political world.
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a photo album for your political conversation just feels like the wrong tool anyway.
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At least Twitter feels like exactly the right tool for this stuff.
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So when I go to Twitter or anything like Twitter,
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it feels like at least I'm doing something useful.
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But it's interesting to see the left go off on Facebook.
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And Facebook is one of the few things that I have not invested in that have a monopoly position.
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the big derivatives bubble that took out 2009's economy?
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Warren Buffett would look at the derivatives and he'd say,
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I don't get why anybody would own these things.
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I just don't understand why people use Facebook other than they're sort of addicted,
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Looks like Biden's going to shut the Keystone project down.
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Do you think you'll see any reporting on the left about the number of jobs that will be lost?
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Do you think you'll see any reporting on the left about the impact of making a deal with your most trusted international trading partner and then just breaking it?
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And Canada spent a whole bunch of money to get ready for their end of the Keystone project, as I understand it.
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And now that they're all worked up and excited about it, we're going to yank it away from them?
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Even if you think we should yank it away from them for environmental reasons,
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If you want to be that country who can make a deal and then just cancel it on your closest trading partner, Canada?
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you've got to really know that you want this to do that.
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yeah, it's bad in the short run with jobs and whatnot,
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but in the long run, it will save people hardships.
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The most official UN-sanctioned prediction of what will happen if we don't reduce our fossil fuels
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is that our rate of growth will be a little less than spectacular.
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Our rate of growth will still be spectacular over the next 80 years,
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but it will be a little less than it could have been.
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So anybody who is reading the news and thinks that fossil fuels will lead to greater hardship
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doesn't even know what the official Green New Deal friendly people are saying.
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They're not saying anything even remotely like that.
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They're saying things will be terrific in the future no matter what,
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but a little less terrific than they could have been economically.
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I thought everybody said it's going to be the end of the world in 12 years.
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but there are no official bodies working on any of this full of experts who say anything like that.
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The only officials who are experts in the Green New Deal,
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even the ones who say it's the worst case scenario,
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are saying it's just that's a little difference in 80 years.
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is that there's probably something real there that we do need to pay attention to.
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And we're paying enough attention to it that over 80 years will be fine.
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for saying a bunch of things that Twitter believes not to be true enough, I guess.
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And I guess anything that would have suggested that he did violence would be a violation of the terms of service.
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But it's not clear what exactly she said they got her banned.
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That she's being smeared on CNN for her prior conspiracy theories, according to them.
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So she was a believer in Pizzagate, apparently, reportedly.
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But she also claimed, according to CNN, incorrectly,
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that the Charlottesville Fine People rally was an insider job.
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Some kind of an inside job, false flag kind of thing.
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Now, there's no reporting to confirm that, right?
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So the way the news reports baseless claims is that they're proven not to be true,
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It doesn't mean you've proven it didn't happen.
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So let me acknowledge that I'm not aware of any evidence
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that would suggest the Charlottesville thing was an inside job.
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Take another example of right-leaning people doing something en masse.
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What are we watching happen with each of the identities
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because they didn't have masks for the most part.
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We're watching each one of them being identified easily.
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Do you remember what happened after the Charlottesville fine people march?
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Do you remember how similar it was with all the facial recognition
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Do you remember how all of those people who were marching
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were tracked down, and then there were lots of stories
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so that you could see that they were real Americans
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who just organically got together, with the leaders,
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but got together and that this was an actual legitimate march?
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Years later, we don't know anything about any of the people
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And yet, we still have facial recognition software.
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Now, I'm not saying there's any evidence whatsoever
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I'm just saying that's a big notable difference, isn't it?
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you're digging down to find the actual identities of these people,
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and the other one, you just don't do any of it?
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A bunch of pardons coming, according to the news.
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and they're probably all going to make people mad.
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You know, there's nothing to this pardon story,
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except if it's legal for the president to do it,
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Because Trump will just take a bigger risk than other people will.
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You know, he just takes everything a little bit farther.
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I'm not saying I agree with any of them or disagree with any of them,
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But I think we either have to live with it or change that rule that presidents can do it.
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But complaining about it isn't going to help us too much.
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Here's another question about the dog not barking.
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If you believe that the assault on the Capitol was inspired by QAnon,
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why are we not currently obsessed with finding out
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who was sending the most recent QAnon messages?
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Let's say recent over the last couple of years.
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And can you tell me that with our NSA that can track basically any digital communication,
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are you telling me that our government, our intelligence agencies,
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Now, my understanding is that the way Q started was more of a fun hoax.
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It was a little bit more for entertainment, a little bit for persuasion,
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Reportedly, I don't know what credibility put on any of the Q stuff,
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but reportedly it might be run by different people who originally started it.
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But why in the world are we not even asking that question as the number one question
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that the two, let's say the two causes of the, or maybe three,
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three causes of the assault on the Capitol were what the president said,
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and what various news and social media people said.
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We're talking obsessively about what Trump said and should.
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Why aren't we talking about how Q is and how close we are to finding Q?
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Over the long term, you should expect intelligence agencies to get control of anything that matters.
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In the short run, you can't tell if it's happened yet.
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But in the long run, it should be 100% predictable
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that intelligence agencies, either your own country or somebody else's,
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Because if they don't, they're not a very good intelligence agency.
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So one of the things that intelligence agencies would want to control in the past,
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So you see a lot of patriotic movies when the intelligence agencies want to
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beef up the feeling in the United States about who we are and our patriotism, etc.
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So we know that the intelligence agencies want to have control over enough of the media
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Why would the intelligence agencies not want to control Q?
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Why would they not want to control social media?
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Do you think that social media is not already controlled by intelligence agencies?
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I don't think there's any way that can not happen in the long run.
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Because if you assume that they're all trying to get control, of course they're trying.
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If we are not trying to get control, meaning our intelligence agencies are not trying to get control
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of other countries' social media platforms and communication, what are they doing?
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Because I feel like that's pretty basic to the job, is controlling the message and the communication.
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So I have no reason to believe that Q is controlled by any intelligence agencies.
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I'm just saying that if Q continued on for, let's say, a few decades, it would happen guaranteed.
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You just don't know which intelligence agency would do it.
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So apparently the Pentagon's fearing there could be an insider attack at the Biden inauguration.
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In other words, somebody involved with the police or the National Guard, who maybe is
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not there to just guard things, but might be a bad actor who gets inside.
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And apparently, at least, you know, we've seen some ex-military people who are part of the
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capital assault, and at least one National Guard reservist who had some, sounded like some
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Do you know how you end up with a secret army like the Revolutionary Guard?
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This is the path toward some kind of a dictatorship.
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And I don't think Biden is necessarily intending to be a dictator.
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I'm just saying that if you had a dictator, and they wanted to become like a dictator for
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life, the number one thing you do is say, you know, the people guarding me are not as
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Well, how about I select a hand-picked group of people that will be my more immediate protection,
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And then how big does that group end up getting?
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Because they would have, the group guarding the president would have to have more power
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than the military, at least in terms of, you know, who's got control of a certain situation.
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Because otherwise they couldn't guard the president, right?
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The hardest, the highest priority is guarding the president.
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So they would have to have more authority than any other military over them.
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You can't have a coup unless you also have that loyal, loyal core army, right?
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Like, Castro could take over Cuba because he brought an army with him that was loyal to him.
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You know, George Washington can take over the country because he brought an army with him
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So without that loyal army, you can't really stage a coup.
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And as soon as I hear the beginning of, well, maybe we should only have Democrats in our,
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in our guarding the Capitol if there's a Democrat president.
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Like, every, every little alarm goes off in my head.
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It's like, ah, the minute you're, you're being that selective about who's guarding the president,
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But on the other hand, it could be that since the National Guard will never really
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morph into any kind of a, you know, I don't see the National Guard ever morphing into a
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So I don't think it's a big risk at the moment.
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But just talking about that sort of opens the door for that secret army situation, some
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I guess Parler is the competitor, or wannabe competitor to Twitter, got shut down because
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their servers got turned off by Amazon because, and then Apple dropped them from the App Store,
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They think they're, they have a plan to get back online, but I don't know.
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There's a conservative-leaning, they call it right-wing, web hosting firm called Epic, E-P-I-K.
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And Parler is apparently going to move their hosting to this right-wing hosting place, to
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which I say to myself, okay, great, now we're going to have two internets.
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We're going to have two internets, one for the right and one for the left.
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But isn't it nice to know that the free market has delivered an alternative to Amazon?
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And if Epic turns out to be, you know, a solid company and dependable, why would you ever
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Because they do have a pretty massive competitive advantage if the only thing they're offering
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That is a real good competitive advantage in a world in which at least a third of the country
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And you don't want to have to redo your whole hosting situation.
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I said on Twitter earlier, and this requires some explanation, I said that you'll get farther
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in life by learning to spot bullshit than you will by learning to spot opportunity.
00:39:51.860
You'll get further learning to identify other people's lies than you will identifying opportunities
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We live in a world in which there are tons of opportunities.
00:40:15.240
If you build your talent stack wisely, you can manage your abilities, your skills to have
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But if you do something that blows up on you and just sets you back for years, you're in
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So learning to not fall for other people's lies can keep you safe while opportunities are
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So you don't need to be an expert at spotting opportunities.
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But you do need to be good at not falling into a hole you can't get out of.
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And that's the part about spotting the bad ideas.
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You know, the bad investments, the worst of the worst.
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But learn to spot BS as your sort of a base skill.
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If you want to be better at it, you should look at my book, Loser Think, which helps you
00:41:15.920
CNN is tweeting, Oliver Darcy at CNN is tweeting about somebody else on the air, Alex Stamos,
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who was saying, quote, we're going to have to figure out the OAN and Newsmax problem.
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Did you know there was an OAN and Newsmax problem?
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Well, the problem, according to CNN and Alex Stamos, is that they're reporting fake news,
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And he says, these companies have freedom of speech, but I'm not sure we need Verizon,
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AT&T, and Comcast and such bringing them into tens of millions of homes.
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So he's questioning, you know, if you didn't know this, these entities travel over, you
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And then Darcy says in his tweet, just a reminder that neither Verizon or AT&T nor Comcast have
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answered any questions about why they beam channels like OAN and Newsmax into millions
00:42:17.580
Do they have any second thoughts about distributing these channels given their election denialism
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So CNN is actually reporting with a straight face that maybe their competition, OAN and
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Newsmax, should be banned from the internet for having said something that CNN believes
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What would be more opposite of free speech than this?
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Let's have a whole national conversation about which news entities have promoted the most hoaxes.
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And then, of course, you're going to have to rank the hoaxes because they're not all equal,
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Some can move the whole, you know, nature of the country.
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We do need, completely seriously, a list of each news network and which hoaxes they promoted
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for the past, let's say, the past five years, right?
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Now, of course, it would be difficult to find an independent observer who could rank these
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hoaxes, so maybe there would be multiple ones or the ones that have some ambiguity could
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be marked as, well, this is a claim, but, you know, the other side says it's not true.
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But wouldn't you like to see how long the list is and to see what's on it?
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Let me give you a brief example of what would be on it.
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And I'm going to start with the hoaxes on the right.
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Some of you are not going to like this, but you'll hang in there.
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So from the right, we've seen some wild election-fraught claims, such as the Venezuela, Hugo Chavez,
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Now, assuming that those all, you know, in the fullness of time, let's say that we decide
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that none of those are true, and I think that's where it's heading, that those would be hoaxes
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You've got your Pizzagate associated with the right.
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You've got your QAnon stuff associated with the right.
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Does, you know, are OAN and Newsmax and Fox News and Breitbart, are they reporting
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So although there are some conspiracy theories on the right, I don't see the news reporting them.
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Do you remember any time at which Fox News had the news people as opposed to the opinion people?
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All right, we're going to make a distinction between the news people and the opinion people.
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Did any of the news people ever report that Pizzagate was real?
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I mean, it could have happened, so fact check me on that.
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But I remember the opinion people noodling about it, but I don't remember any fact people,
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Do you think any of them ever reported that Pizzagate was real?
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I don't think they're reporting these things as real.
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The news on the right has reported that maybe the pandemic isn't so real.
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That the pandemic is nothing more than the flu.
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But was it the news people who reported that on the right?
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Now, I haven't watched all of these networks every day, so I can't say for certain.
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But I don't know if any news people on the right said the pandemic is probably fake.
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And then, of course, there was masks don't work.
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So you could make a list of things which were definitely conspiracy theories on the right.
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But how many of them were actually reported by the news on the right?
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I'm not sure I remember any of them being reported by the news.
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And the left, they're a little bit less clear about who's an opinion person and who's the news.
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I've had a number of conversations with Jake Tapper.
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I don't know if he's the news or if he's an opinion person.
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When you say that that's branded clearly enough,
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that you're not really confused about Don Lemon, right?
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You know, I would put him in with the Hannity's and the Tucker's, Tucker Carlson's as opinion people.
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But because CNN blurs that line, and the people I think are anchors,
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report the opinion the same as the news quite often,
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You got the find people hoax, which is the biggest one of all time.
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The most destructive hoax of all time is the Charlottesville find people hoax.
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You got the Jussie Smollett, the Covington kids hoax, the drinking bleach,
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the Russia collusion hoax, which then they tried to change into Russian interference.
00:48:23.660
Oh, why are you saying, Scott, that there was no Russia collusion,
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when in fact they had those several Facebook advertisements and memes?
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So they tried to change that from collusion into interference.
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Well, maybe he does with Ukraine and China, etc.
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They've reported that election systems basically can't be hacked.
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And by the way, I would be delighted if that were true.
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Can't be hacked in any way that wouldn't be detected.
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They report climate change being an economic disaster,
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Here's one that would be on your list, but not mine.
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oh, the left believes that there are multiple genders.
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And then you would get into this whole gender thing.
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Number one, I'm more respectful to that entire situation
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But number two, I think that's just a definition thing.
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and somebody else wants to call them a different word,
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There was the Russian bounty on American soldiers hoax,
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that are reported on the left and the ones on the right,
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and now subtract out the ones that are just opinion people.
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because you don't know if they're opinion or not.
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If you ask me which would the right or the left
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have more hoaxes reported by their so-called legitimate news sources,
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Or should you also look at the importance of them?
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Because some hoaxes cause the capital to be attacked,
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So you can't really say that all the hoaxes are the same value, right?
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and then you'd see which news people reported them.
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to just sort of look at it and know the answer.
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But I feel as if CNN would be the biggest purveyor of hoaxes
00:51:44.040
compared to the news that they think should be taken off the air.
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which is that people like Trump are energy monsters.
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And you could think of this as being sort of the third dimension,
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When he talks about the size of his crowds at his rallies,
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He's not dealing with the specific accuracy of claims.
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even if there's some parts that they don't like,
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But I would say it's a strategic opening for Trump
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one of your smarter, most independent thinkers,
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Now, I'm not sure if it doesn't matter to Trump.