On this week's episode of the podcast, Alex Blumberg and CoDameron are back with a brand new episode featuring a special guest: CNN fact-checker, Daniel Dale. They discuss why Trump is so good at fact-checking, and why he should have been a better president.
00:02:13.060Well, I've promised you that I'm going to make as my trademark talking about what's new, but using it as an excuse to teach you something you didn't know.
00:02:25.960Or to reinforce something that it's worth hearing again.
00:04:47.800This poor bastard, the fact-checker for CNN.
00:04:51.600He's been basically putting his feet up and, you know, coasting, collecting his paycheck during the Biden administration so far, a few weeks.
00:05:00.780I mean, he doesn't even get on TV, that guy.
00:05:03.240You know, they don't even let him talk.
00:05:04.700He can write an article sometimes, that's about it.
00:05:08.600But, man, Trump hits the scene and suddenly he's like a whirling dervish.
00:05:13.600He's like, wow, you know, clear my schedule.
00:05:17.540You know, get me, bring me the Red Bull.
00:08:22.860We'll have four years of Biden doing either what Trump did, because it worked, or something that Biden changed and isn't working out so well.
00:08:33.920Well, that's what it's going to look like in four years.
00:08:37.320Now, will Biden have some notable successes?
00:10:25.780So, of course, what Trump means when he says not sending their best is he would be comparing that situation to, say, India, which sends us so much of their top technical talent that India's worried about the people that are leaving.
00:10:43.480You know, you know, India's thinking, you know, maybe you should stay here with your high technical talent and excellent educations.
00:10:51.860So, India would be an example of sending us people who are immediately, you know, starting unicorn startups and crap like that.
00:11:01.920And it has nothing to do with anybody's ethnicity.
00:11:07.020Doesn't every country have, have a best?
00:11:11.840Doesn't, doesn't every single country have a best and a worst?
00:11:17.200I mean, you could see, you could see it as racial if you want, but you have to kind of want to see it that way.
00:11:24.260Um, I heard some of the Democrats saying that Trump was low energy.
00:11:28.480And I would say that that, that feels true in the sense if you're comparing Trump to Trump.
00:11:36.300But if they're saying Trump was low energy compared to, let's say, everybody else, it was not low energy.
00:11:49.500Um, so Trump basically made every other Republican look like furniture.
00:11:56.880Uh, every conversation that you might want to have about who else might run in 2024 as a, at least as a, uh, uh, Republican, it kind of doesn't matter anymore, does it?
00:12:12.280Because Trump's, Trump's current popularity would make him a lock for the nomination.
00:12:19.860Everybody else just disappeared yesterday.
00:12:37.260Your, your Tom Cottons, your, your Matt Gaetz, et cetera.
00:12:41.540You're talking about very, very qualified, high operating people.
00:12:46.480And he just turned them into furniture just by showing up.
00:12:49.320Uh, it's, it's, it's really amazing when you look at it.
00:12:52.660Now, I know, I realize that I'm, uh, for those of you who are anti-Trump, it appears that I'm, uh, going into fandom of no objectivity whatsoever.
00:13:21.900Um, here's the best entertainment you're, you're going to ever have, uh, if you're in a certain category of person.
00:13:31.500So this won't work for everybody, but there's a, uh, YouTube video of, uh, uh, guy named Potholer54, at least that's his online name, P-O-T-H-O-L-E-R-54, if you're looking for him on, uh, YouTube.
00:13:49.700And he's got a, he's got a longish piece there, uh, debunking the debunkers.
00:13:54.720So you've seen a lot of coronavirus debunkers, Ivor Cummins, uh, Tony Heller at one point, people who are claiming that Sweden teaches us something that we did wrong in the other countries.
00:14:08.800And watching, watching, uh, Potholer debunk the debunkers is such a, a mind, uh, effort that you really have to see it.
00:14:22.260Like, you really, really, it's, I could not recommend this more, but at the same time, I can't tell you from any, you know, personal source I have that the debunker of the debunker is the one who's right, which makes it even more interesting.
00:14:41.600When you, when you're done, you still won't know who is right because this is number, there's the first thing you're going to learn today.
00:14:48.820Anyway, whoever goes last in one of these, you know, I'm debunking you and then I'm debunking you're debunking.
00:14:57.160Whoever goes last is the most persuasive.
00:15:01.600That's why in a court case, the defense gets to go last.