Real Coffee with Scott Adams - March 22, 2021


Episode 1321 Scott Adams: Kids in Cubicles at the Border, Musk Robs the Poor to Colonize Mars According to Bernie, and More

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Episode 1320 Scott Adams: Cancer Cures, Trump Wax Punching Bag, CRT Index Fund, A Hypnosis Trick for Mind Reading Episode 1322 Scott Adams: Let's Talk About the Bad Arguments in the News About the Second Amendment, Vaccine Safety

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Elon Musk is getting heat from some people on social media for his plans to colonize Mars, but what about all the people here on earth who need help? Shouldn t they be helping the people right here on Earth, instead of using all these resources to go to Mars?

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00:00:43.440 oh wow best one ever i know that's what you're saying at home
00:00:55.180 well i had a hypothesis uh not too long ago that a very attractive woman 1.00
00:01:05.200 could go in public without a mask and would not be asked to put one on
00:01:11.620 just because it's an attractive woman and uh christine and i went to safeway to buy some 0.97
00:01:21.440 groceries last night and didn't notice until we got to the cashier that i had worn my mask the entire
00:01:30.500 time but she had never worn her mask the entire time she was in the grocery store nobody asked her
00:01:37.840 to put a mask on she gets up to the the cashier and the cashier is the first person who who notices
00:01:46.180 she's not wearing a mask and says something and the the cashier the cashier says uh oh you're not
00:01:52.680 wearing a mask you'll you'll need to put a mask on and we didn't have an extra one with them and i said
00:01:57.280 do you have one i thought they might have spares or something and they didn't so christina of course
00:02:03.240 says oh you know i'm sorry i'll i'll go get my mask from the car or i'll go wait in the car because i was just
00:02:09.620 checking out anyway and the the cashier looks at her and he goes ah don't bother
00:02:17.420 have you ever seen that in your entire life he just looks at her he goes yeah don't bother
00:02:26.240 but at the same time the uh the six foot distance thing apparently has been removed from my grocery
00:02:34.160 store it looks like they're going to the the three foot kind of situation which you sort of do
00:02:39.700 automatically because your cart's in the way so that i suppose that was a humble brag uh and
00:02:48.940 transparently so but i it was so funny to see that hypothesis tested do you know how long i would
00:02:55.700 have gotten gotten away maskless i i wouldn't have gotten past the the entry i would have walked past
00:03:02.360 the uh the chips and somebody said oh hold on you need to you need to cover up a lot of that
00:03:08.820 and uh not just for covid either all right elon musk is uh getting some heat from bernie sanders and
00:03:17.740 others because he uh tweeted about collecting resources to get humanity to the the stars and
00:03:26.780 and people said whoa what about all the people here on earth who need help what about them bernie
00:03:34.760 sanders says shouldn't you be helping the people right here on earth instead of using all these
00:03:40.080 resources to go to mars and so i was prompted to do a little uh informal survey the non-scientific
00:03:48.440 type on on twitter ask people where do billionaires get their money do they choice a steal it from the
00:03:58.420 poor because you know if you want money the poor is where you go or did they create it out of nothing
00:04:08.400 well nothing gets created out of nothing as far as we know but it's closer to that right why is it
00:04:18.060 that bernie uh deserves some of that money that elon musk created out of nothing i don't know what
00:04:27.000 that argument is but i would make the following argument uh colonizing space is the only way that we
00:04:35.780 stay non-chinese because china is going to colonize space if we don't get there first and have a 1.00
00:04:45.720 controlling presence in space whoever owns space owns owns earth because if you have the high ground
00:04:52.560 you you militarily basically control earth and i don't know if that's a hundred years from now
00:04:59.460 but why would you let that happen if the united states could keep technical
00:05:05.060 supremacy and make sure that we don't lose space that might be the most important thing that's
00:05:12.160 happening right now i i would guess that what elon is doing in terms of the value to humanity you know
00:05:20.240 for the next 10 million years what elon is doing is a million times more important than everything
00:05:29.620 bernie has ever done it's not even close in terms of service to humanity these two are not on the same
00:05:38.020 plane bernie's service to humanity is pretty good actually i would rank him as a productive member of society
00:05:46.200 certainly in terms of moving the arguments and you know changing how we think about things but in
00:05:51.940 terms of doing actual stuff that got done i think musk is the big winner there the other the andres
00:06:02.280 beckhouse uh tweeted that uh colonizing mars might be the best way to protect earth in case somebody like
00:06:11.140 bernie sanders ever becomes president and andres uh cleverly says as long as we get all the uh
00:06:20.240 keep all the ships the colonization ships on mars that an earth run by people like bernie sanders will 1.00
00:06:27.460 never be able to build one so they'll never be able to get to mars and cause any trouble because their
00:06:33.100 their technology will never be able to get to mars and the reason that's funny is because it sort of
00:06:43.140 makes sense that if we don't escape to mars we will be doomed by anything that happens on earth
00:06:49.560 so it turns out that trump uh at least reportedly is planning to come back in two or three months with
00:06:58.100 his own media platform yay how much fun are we going to have when trump comes back with his own
00:07:05.960 media platform now i don't know what that will look like but i have to think it's a video based
00:07:11.380 something maybe you can post things maybe you can tweet on it or whatever is the equivalent of tweeting
00:07:18.440 so we'll all be waiting for that that'll be fun kind of makes you wonder who would be
00:07:25.340 part of that platform doesn't it because i don't know if it can happen in two or three months
00:07:32.980 because i haven't heard of anybody who's been approached have you uh if you've been approached
00:07:39.800 by this whatever this new platform is to be part of it unless it's just trump himself which is entirely
00:07:46.400 possible but if anybody's been approached to be part of any kind of a trump media thing i mean let me
00:07:52.920 know tweet at me or dm me or something um here's an idea that will sound crazy until you think about
00:08:04.480 it are you ready this will sound like the worst idea and then it's just going to sort of sit there
00:08:10.360 for a while until it sounds good to you you know how in business when you sign a contract
00:08:15.500 it's fairly common snickers quiet over there it's fairly common in business to sign a contract with
00:08:23.420 a clause in it that says if you have a dispute it will be solved by mediation now mediation
00:08:30.980 i gotta do something about my dog
00:08:35.540 all right wake up yeah there we go now mediation means that you're going to get a result from a
00:08:46.360 mediator somebody does that for a living that will not make either side happy in all likelihood right
00:08:52.820 it might make one of them happy and the other unhappy but it's probably going to be some
00:08:57.040 some middle ground compromise sort of thing no i didn't throw the kleenex box at her i just wanted
00:09:03.920 her to hear it um so here's my crazy idea we're watching the democrats and republicans be unable to
00:09:15.560 govern because now they have um yeah arbitration so it's called arbitration yes and so the democrats
00:09:25.400 and the republicans can't get anything done because they don't want to vote for the other side
00:09:29.520 and therefore not much can get done what would happen if we had a mediator or an arbitrator
00:09:38.140 somebody who would say all right this is an important issue i'll take one that we haven't dealt
00:09:44.540 with as much let's say um transportation some kind of a infrastructure bill all right just to pick
00:09:52.860 something that's maybe upcoming what would happen if the democrats and republicans just couldn't decide
00:09:58.500 they just couldn't decide so what do you do just have no bill that doesn't work because that's where
00:10:06.000 we're now we are now right just nothing happens but what would happen if the democrats and republicans
00:10:11.980 under some trigger say all right we can't work this out and just give it to the arbitrator and say this
00:10:18.840 is what we think the other side says this is what we think but here's the key the democrats and
00:10:25.560 republicans would have to agree in advance to accept the decision and then suddenly somebody says
00:10:33.860 basically joe manchin that basically he's he's the arbitrator right joe manchin gets to decide because
00:10:40.400 he's the only one who will cross cross lines um now okay here's here's the question i'm anticipating
00:10:47.720 who elects the mediators or the arbitrators because then you'd have a situation where all of our elected
00:10:55.360 representatives would be neutered and an unelected person would make the decision but wait it's not a
00:11:04.180 problem because the elected people would be selecting they would have selected the arbitrator
00:11:11.320 so it's a process by which the elected people decide in advance that this is how they'll make
00:11:17.900 a decision but it would still be the elected people who had created the system that created the
00:11:23.280 the the outcome it would just be a reasonable person making the decision who is neither democrat nor
00:11:29.740 republican in terms of bias um watch how that idea sounds batshit crazy when you first hear it
00:11:41.640 and it's gonna sort of gnaw you over time because as long as the democrats and republicans both agree
00:11:50.040 to let the arbitrator arbitrate it would work and i'm seeing in the comments there's like a real
00:11:59.700 hesitation because somebody says it's not constitutional i disagree you could make it
00:12:06.200 constitutional simply by having the republic the republicans and democrats agree to abide by it
00:12:13.640 because they could simply change their mind and that gives them full control you know so they don't
00:12:19.100 have to they would just agree to it now how is that different than you know stuff getting worked
00:12:25.780 down in committee it's not a lot different right um so watch how that one gets better over time
00:12:34.280 so on my ongoing series of trump will look uh better every day that he's gone um did you know
00:12:45.440 that the trump administration did allow photojournalists into the juvenile migrant detention centers
00:12:51.580 but biden does not think about that the trump administration with their so-called kids in cages
00:13:00.000 allowed the journalists to come in and take pictures and interview people and stuff and biden's not doing
00:13:08.440 that that's basically the uyghur concentration camp situation right do we have more photos of uyghur
00:13:17.300 concentration camps or of these migrant detention facilities for children yeah i saw the project 1.00
00:13:24.620 veritas video and there's some other photographs that came out today and it seems that they're being
00:13:30.680 kept in these uh clear plastic sided containers but they're not boxes because they have an open top
00:13:39.360 they're kind of cubicles if you look at them they're cubicles with a door and i thought to myself wait a
00:13:49.000 minute if we're keeping kids in cubicles at the same time that remote office work is becoming a big 0.98
00:13:55.520 thing aren't there hundreds of thousands of empty cubicles just sitting there in rented space with
00:14:03.060 nobody in them why can't we put those kids in cubicles do you feel me in all seriousness is there any
00:14:12.700 reason we can't use office space that's been abandoned they got bathrooms they've got containers
00:14:20.760 called cubicles and what would be funniest about that is we can all complain about kids in cages
00:14:28.700 justifiably we can all complain about kids in boxes kids in any kind of custody we can all complain
00:14:38.740 about that but what would happen if those kids were put in a modern uh in a modern office building
00:14:48.160 in cubicles
00:14:49.660 right now you don't need a door on every cubicle as long as you're guarding the exterior exits
00:14:58.520 i feel as if you could put kids in cubicles and it would end the problem because we wouldn't be
00:15:04.500 able to complain that living in cubicles was inhumane you could give each kid their own cubicle
00:15:11.760 we probably have plenty of them now i'm just you know i don't think anything like this will happen
00:15:17.180 but putting kids in hotels doesn't seem like the right answer does it because that's what they're doing
00:15:22.960 now they're putting them in hotels but i suppose a hotel has a shower so that's an advantage
00:15:28.300 all right
00:15:29.680 rasmussen poll says two-thirds of the public say we have a border crisis
00:15:38.120 two-thirds of the public now i i don't think i've ever seen a president fail harder than this have you
00:15:46.660 do we have any history of a president coming into office implementing a policy that the the immigration
00:15:54.760 policy in this case and failing spectacularly in the first 30 to 60 days has that ever happened
00:16:02.620 what would be the another example of a worst start for a president can you think of one because
00:16:10.740 presidents usually start off pretty well right usually the first honeymoon period somebody says bush
00:16:17.780 but what did bush do in the first 30 to 60 days i don't think anybody's had a worse start this might
00:16:24.740 be the oh 9 11 was 9 11 in the first two months of bush yeah i don't know all right here's a question
00:16:37.600 that you think we ought to know the answer to but according to social media the the final final word on
00:16:44.040 everything uh we don't so uh i saw these uh tweets going around this morning about israel's outcomes
00:16:54.600 and if you look at the israeli data of vaccinations versus outcomes it seems pretty clear that the
00:17:01.500 vaccinations started and then the the hospitalizations and deaths plunged as soon as they started getting
00:17:08.680 enough people vaccinated so you say to yourself well it obviously works because the vaccinations came
00:17:15.720 the deaths and hospitalizations plunged what else do you need to know well i thought that that sounded
00:17:23.000 pretty good um and especially because the the rate of vaccinations within different age groups seems to map
00:17:32.020 perfectly to show that the more vaccinated you are the faster the curve falls just like you'd expect
00:17:38.240 but but but it didn't take long for people to say well here's my chart of other countries 0.95
00:17:48.580 who have exactly the same curve and they're not vaccinating much at all to which i say damn it 0.91
00:17:55.880 damn it again we actually is it true that we can't tell us the vaccinations are working
00:18:04.340 and that we'll never know when i say we'll never know i don't mean that science won't decide that 0.97
00:18:11.100 they know but i feel the public has already made a move and said it doesn't matter what data you show
00:18:17.340 us we're just not going to believe those vaccinations made any difference
00:18:20.820 yeah i think i would agree with the commenter who's saying it's a little too soon
00:18:26.260 i feel as if we should know for sure in two months right but as somebody pointed out
00:18:34.980 the spanish flu went away and they didn't have the vaccine so why did it go away apparently it was not
00:18:44.060 because of herd immunity we don't know why the spanish flu went away and here's the kicker
00:18:49.600 we don't know why any virus goes away which was the most amazing thing i learned early on in the
00:18:57.800 pandemic that we don't know why the seasonal flu goes away it just does now the only thing that
00:19:04.960 makes sense is that some people have some natural immunity for one reason or another i can't think of
00:19:10.420 any other reason that a virus would go away without immunity and without a vaccination but
00:19:16.240 um do you believe that we don't have data yet to know the vaccinations work
00:19:25.780 we're we were able to apparently we can measure the amount of antibodies i mean it certainly looks
00:19:33.560 like we can measure it but a number of people showed me graphs where other countries that are not
00:19:39.340 doing much actually the united states is not doing as well on vaccinations but our curve looks the same
00:19:45.180 so how do you explain that how do you explain the country is not vaccinating are also having a big
00:19:52.000 drop at about the same time the amount of stuff we don't know about this is just stunning
00:19:57.940 um i heard somebody who knew what they're talking about a doctor told me that one of the problems
00:20:07.240 with counting the regular seasonal flu influenza deaths are that we count them as an influenza death
00:20:13.800 if it's sort of the last thing that happened before they died so if somebody gets influenza
00:20:19.300 and then the influenza you know is taken care of but a few days later they die of let's say something
00:20:27.840 related maybe it's pneumonia or something that that would get counted as a influenza death
00:20:35.100 even if they died with no influenza in them the thought is that they were weakened to the point where
00:20:41.980 it's the proximate cause but does that make sense because here's another way to look at it
00:20:50.220 it seems to me that anybody who dies i'll take an average 80 year old person aren't they dying for all the
00:21:00.740 reasons they're dying for all the reasons one of the reasons is they didn't eat well during their
00:21:09.460 entire life didn't have a good diet another reason is they didn't exercise enough another reason is that
00:21:17.140 they were born with a certain genetic you know uh genetic propensity for things and then there were all
00:21:25.700 the decisions they made during their life did they smoke cigarettes did they do this or did they do that
00:21:31.620 don't you need every one of those things to happen on top of the influenza in order to kill a person
00:21:40.900 but because the the last thing you saw was the influenza we say that's the thing that killed you
00:21:48.180 but if you would say removed any of the other major parts i mentioned let's say you had always eaten
00:21:54.900 well if you you went back in time and changed that variable and now you're you're thin but you're older
00:22:01.700 do you still die when you still die if you wouldn't then it wasn't the influenza that killed you right
00:22:12.340 it was your bad diet over years and years or your lack of exercise or you know you didn't take your
00:22:18.580 vitamin d or whatever right so it seems to me illogical to say that the last thing that happened sort of the
00:22:26.020 final straw is the one that broke the camel's back it's just the one that happened last it's not like a car
00:22:33.300 accident where the car accident definitely killed you right and it's not like cancer necessarily
00:22:41.060 because the cancer kills you i suppose you could argue that your lifestyle might have contributed to
00:22:45.220 that too um and then there's a question of whether you can count this stuff i i saw a tweet this morning
00:22:53.060 that somebody claiming we already know that the half a million extra people died in 2020 but i don't
00:22:58.820 think we know that i feel like we don't know the death count for 2020 but if anybody has that link
00:23:06.500 send it to me i think that's estimated so here's the other factor have you ever noticed that uh if
00:23:12.420 you're if you can't find your phone or your keys where are they always the thing you can't find where is
00:23:21.620 it always it's always in the last place you look right if you can't find your keys it's in the last
00:23:30.900 place you would look in the last place you do look now of course i'm being silly because if you find
00:23:38.820 your keys that is the last place you look you don't need to look anymore you found your keys and so
00:23:45.220 how many people who are let's say within a year of dying get the influenza and then because
00:23:56.660 just the order of things death comes after do you know it's harder to die first
00:24:04.180 and then get the influenza after you're dead i'm no doctor but i think that's a safe sentence so suppose
00:24:12.340 it's flu season and people are going to get the flu
00:24:19.060 old people some of them get the flu within a few weeks of a death but maybe they were going to die
00:24:26.420 anyway and the flu maybe pushed it up a few days or a few weeks i don't know but is that really the
00:24:34.180 cause of death if you were only a few weeks away from death because it seems to me that just the
00:24:40.420 the coincidental timing of people getting the flu and then they were going to die anyway i feel like
00:24:47.540 that would get a little over counting going on but i'm not sure so the quality of our data on
00:24:55.780 everything from influenza to mass to distancing to vaccinations we're at a point where we don't
00:25:02.180 believe anything and maybe we don't yeah and i don't think influenza the regular influenza is even
00:25:09.620 based on uh death certificates i think it's some kind of weird estimate um
00:25:16.500 all right apparently uh biden's department homeland
00:25:19.940 uh department of homeland security secretary insists that the border is closed and it's under control
00:25:28.660 except for lone children so that's the biden administration says that the it's closed except
00:25:36.980 for lone children so the question i ask you is why
00:25:41.460 why why does the biden administration not want adults to come in is it because he's racist
00:25:53.060 because it seems pretty racist to close your border and not let one brown person in who's an adult
00:25:59.460 come on are there any white people you're keeping out from crossing the southern border 0.99
00:26:05.860 well a few maybe who came from europe and tried to get in that way but mostly biden is keeping the brown
00:26:14.180 people from crossing the border and i don't think we can ignore that of course that's what would be sad if 1.00
00:26:19.940 it were trump um yeah it's ageism it's ageism exactly that's exactly what it is now
00:26:34.740 how would you how would you regard um the joe biden kids in cubicles problem if the press had been able to
00:26:44.660 uh report on it and if biden had been completely transparent about how bad it was i feel as if i
00:26:52.980 would have taken that completely differently imagine if you will that biden had said exactly the opposite
00:27:00.020 of what he said which is yeah you know uh because i said we were going to be kind to children it totally
00:27:06.900 causes more children to come here unaccompanied i that's that's all on me but the alternative 0.99
00:27:14.340 is worse and i'm going to show you what we're doing we're not prepared i wish we were it's going
00:27:21.860 to get ugly down there but we're going to prepare as fast as we can so we're going to let the photo
00:27:27.300 journalists and the journalists talk to everybody you see how bad it is it's as bad as you think it
00:27:32.580 is take a picture we're working as hard as we can to fix it i feel like that would have that would
00:27:39.540 have felt different to me that would have felt like we've got a bad problem and nobody has a good
00:27:46.500 idea or the the immediate resources for solving it and then i would say okay at least that's honest
00:27:53.460 maybe maybe i wouldn't have played it that way but at least it's honest right i'll take that
00:28:00.980 but it feels like biden has given us a bad situation and then on top of it
00:28:05.700 made it non-transparent oh that's not good that's not good all right
00:28:16.180 southern states should form a sanctuary coalition somebody's saying
00:28:20.500 to fix this themselves i don't know how they do that somebody says boy you are easy
00:28:27.940 well don't get me wrong um i think that trump's policy on the border was the smart one and it feels
00:28:35.220 like we're going to end up back there eventually so um i i do think well let me say it right out loud
00:28:44.180 i'll say out loud what people don't want to say if we don't make it really hard for children
00:28:51.060 too many of them will come and that won't be good for them either so um i'll say what most adults don't
00:28:58.180 want to say is we have to probably make it really really bad for kids otherwise the situation gets
00:29:06.340 out of control unfortunately we live in a cruel world and having having uh you know boundaries and
00:29:13.860 borders and rules and laws and stuff like that we don't really have an option for that stuff it's not
00:29:20.500 like you can just accept them or not accept them we need to be able to say out loud and by the way if
00:29:28.420 i were president i would say that out loud i would say it just the way i'm saying now i would say look
00:29:35.620 we want to be good to kids but we need to make it hard on them otherwise we'll have a worse situation
00:29:43.140 now one of the things that i wonder about is whether this uh migrant crisis is going to hurt us or help
00:29:50.180 us um don't you assume that tens of thousands of uh unaccompanied miners crossing the border you
00:29:59.780 kind of assume it's bad don't you for the economy but i don't know i actually don't know it might not be
00:30:09.380 because um and i would need i think i would need a little help on the economics decision here
00:30:18.260 let's say let's say that humans have different economic values if a an 80 year old immigrant 1.00
00:30:27.140 coming came across the border i would say uh that's going to be expensive because the 80 year old is not
00:30:33.300 going to work probably but might have health problems might be a burden um but what happens
00:30:40.020 if a if a 14 year old comes across the border a 14 year old probably has a good chance of learning
00:30:47.940 english well enough by the time they're an adult they're probably going to get you know an upgrade in
00:30:53.780 education and the odds of them becoming productive citizens is pretty good you know most countries need
00:31:02.020 an influx of young people no matter how they get them or else your economy stalls out so we don't 1.00
00:31:09.300 have a choice of having lots of young people and you can either give birth to them or or bring 0.98
00:31:15.140 them in from immigration but young people are like gold as humans go as human beings go 1.00
00:31:23.620 mexico mexico send us their best
00:31:30.500 i think that's the truth you know trump is famous for saying they're not sending their best
00:31:36.100 that's the adults right because the adults include cartel members and stuff like that now i disagree
00:31:43.220 with trump that they're not sending their best i very much disagree with that he's certainly true that
00:31:48.660 their criminal elements are coming across the border but i think actually mexico is sending their best
00:31:56.980 in this one sense that the adults who are coming don't count the cartel members and the ms13 but the
00:32:04.340 adults who are coming to work are the boldest healthiest they're the ones who can make it they're
00:32:12.020 the risk takers the entrepreneurs we might accidentally be siphoning off mexico's most valuable asset which
00:32:22.900 is their best people now not best in terms of uh educational attainment but that's maybe you know one
00:32:31.140 generation away so i'm just going to ask the question is there an economist out there who's looked at the
00:32:37.540 question specifically if you were to take the the children and they were the only migrants would you
00:32:46.580 come out ahead or behind now keep in mind that each of these migrants will go stay with somebody 1.00
00:32:54.500 so they're not going to be homeless for the most part they'll they'll be taken care of by some kind of
00:33:00.180 entity and we'll see uh they're from central america not mexico for the most part yeah i should add that
00:33:09.940 i should add that uh correction they're more from central america than mexico that is correct thank you for
00:33:16.100 that um thank you for that upgrade um who pays the schools for them so here's where you need the the
00:33:27.060 economist so certainly the children will create some costs there'll be some extra health care costs 0.94
00:33:35.220 there'll be school costs there'll be you know a burden in a number way so the question is not that they
00:33:41.380 present costs it's obvious that they do the question is will they create more benefit than they've added in
00:33:48.980 costs and i would say it should be no different than our own children right we send our own children to
00:33:56.180 school it costs money um i'm paying for your children to go to school right why why is it fair that i'm
00:34:04.500 paying for your children to go to school so maybe you might pay for somebody else's children to go to
00:34:11.460 school too and as will i um i just don't know if this is economic plus or minus if you think you know
00:34:20.580 the answer to this i'll bet you don't i'll bet you don't remember we don't know if masks work i mean
00:34:27.860 i think they do but you know the the state of our data is just terrible that we're arguing about
00:34:34.020 masks and social distancing and lockdowns and schools we're arguing about vaccines now for of all things
00:34:41.700 we're arguing about everything so do you think that you know that uh migrant children are economically
00:34:51.860 negative because i will take that bet without seeing what the economists say you know sight unseen i will
00:35:00.100 take the bet that the children are almost always on an average are almost always positive economically
00:35:07.940 i don't know now i do know that it's terrible for the south american or the central american countries
00:35:15.380 because the central american countries i was watching uh was it the uh leader of i forget one of the
00:35:23.220 central american countries was saying that their their product is exporting people they don't have a
00:35:30.180 they don't have a functioning economy because if you're exporting your people that's your worst situation 1.00
00:35:36.580 so their their best brightest healthiest youngest people are all leaving that's bad that's really
00:35:43.700 bad so how could it be true i suppose it could be true but you've got a situation where if it's bad
00:35:52.420 for where they're leaving that they're leaving isn't that because they have an economic value that's the
00:35:57.940 whole point right they have a future economic value that's quite substantial so i think we should make a
00:36:04.900 big distinction between taking the central american kids which might be like free money it might be
00:36:14.180 free money it just doesn't feel like it taking adults well they're going to start taking jobs and such
00:36:21.140 right that's a different situation and some of them are criminals and some of them are older blah blah
00:36:28.180 now i suppose the chain migration is still an issue so i don't know how how you calculate that
00:36:33.060 because the young kids will eventually be able to do some chain migration of their relatives i guess
00:36:38.980 i think that's the way it is
00:36:42.340 all right my dog's snoring too loudly and that's
00:36:47.380 that's uh somebody says legal only yeah so legal would be the first choice right but in effect the
00:36:55.780 biden administration has legalized on a um unattended migrant children so in effect it's legal it's just
00:37:05.700 not technically legal um somebody's saying that fauci says trump people don't like educated people
00:37:16.580 uh i think that's kind of true that's kind of true i do think that trump supporters uh don't trust
00:37:25.220 experts and academics and elites and harvard graduates etc you know it's not a it's not a universal thing
00:37:31.860 but i think i think there's something to that um
00:37:36.500 okay i saw the i saw an insensitive joke that i can't decide if it's racist so i'm gonna i'm going
00:37:46.580 to recount it and then this will be your test case is the following joke funny and actually supports the
00:37:55.940 the migrants or is it making fun of the migrants and therefore is racist and here's the joke and i won't
00:38:03.780 tell you who said it because in case you think it's racist he doesn't need any more trouble right so
00:38:09.460 somebody you know from social media said that the the kids in cages because they they all have this uh
00:38:17.540 foil aluminum foil looking blankets and he said that uh it was making all the kids look like uh gas
00:38:26.500 station burritos i just don't know how to respond to that one because i laughed as soon as i realized
00:38:36.740 oh yeah a burrito is wrapped in that you know that tin foil thing and there's pictures of all these kids
00:38:43.060 wrapped in tin foil and they're from south america or they're from central america so you think to yourself
00:38:50.660 burrito but is that racist tell me is it racist or is it just offensive like where where's that line
00:39:02.340 between offensive and racist because i will tell you that i'm pretty sure the person who said it
00:39:10.820 was not in favor of any children of any kind suffering in any way so certainly you know nobody
00:39:17.060 had any bad feelings about the children and i don't think anybody had any racial animosity but it's 0.52
00:39:24.900 right on the line there isn't it it's sort of right on the line of you hear it you go i don't know if i
00:39:30.900 would have said that in public the only reason i can say it in public is that i'm talking about it
00:39:36.420 if i just said it as a joke i think i'd have to pay for that probably
00:39:40.420 um somebody says gas stations sell burritos i i think the ones with um yeah i think they do
00:39:50.500 actually depends on your gas station um
00:39:59.700 all right well at least people are laughing at it
00:40:01.380 you know you don't want to laugh at any group who are suffering so but i don't know if the children
00:40:11.780 are all that suffering what one of the questions that's never asked is are the the migrant children
00:40:18.580 who are in these containers um let's say it even lasts for a week however long it lasts it's only
00:40:27.460 supposed to be 72 hours but let's say it lasts a week what was their life like before they got in
00:40:32.820 that cage how many of them are actually happier in the cage i mean nobody wants to stay in the cage
00:40:39.140 forever but how many of them are actually physically better fed warmer safer from crime than they were
00:40:47.620 every day of their life until they got in the cage again i'm not pro cage right i'm just saying
00:40:54.340 that if you're using your um your elite uh let's say you're using your elite american filter to say my
00:41:05.860 god uh if i went if i left my current life and had to be wrapped in tin foil and laying on a mattress
00:41:14.340 in a container next to the border that would be the worst day ever for me but that's not them i think
00:41:22.340 they're going from a horrible situation which is why they came here to a situation which looks horrible
00:41:29.860 by our standards but might not be that bad compared to where they were a week ago right so i'm not saying
00:41:37.700 that the the cages are humane or that they're good i think we should all just have a general feeling
00:41:44.500 that you don't want to put kids in containers and you don't want you don't want to put kids in jail of
00:41:49.620 any kind right if you could avoid it but maybe you can't avoid it if you can't avoid it you can't
00:41:54.660 avoid it somebody says the conditions for those kids might be better than boot camp might be
00:42:04.340 i'd say definitely don't you think that a typical of volunteer military person who goes through boot
00:42:12.260 boot camp has a worse time in boot camp in terms of physical comfort than any of the migrants who are 1.00
00:42:20.580 kept in cages for three days again don't want anybody in a cage it's just we got to put it in perspective
00:42:31.940 um so the perfect situation would be that we treated everybody humanely but somehow everybody believed we
00:42:39.620 didn't so the ideal situation is to let reality and uh and persuasion decouple treat the kids humanely
00:42:52.100 but tell everybody it's a living hell and they better not come all right
00:43:01.540 somebody's making a bad pun instead of quesadillas kids ideas all right let's not be offensive
00:43:08.580 um somebody's calling them aoc burritos
00:43:17.300 you're you're right on the edge uh of being you know racist by modern standards you know so far
00:43:24.500 you're just being offensive and and by the way um i i always i make this uh i try to make this distinction
00:43:34.660 i don't know if you're right on the edge of the world and i'm not going to be a bad pun
00:43:39.940 even the ones that people are getting canceled etc we've we've come to believe that offensive
00:43:46.820 that's something that bothers somebody is also racist but i would argue they're rarely the same
00:43:53.220 i would say that most times most of the things that people say that they get canceled for
00:43:58.340 are meant to be offensive slash funny they're not meant to change the law to racism it's not meant
00:44:06.420 to discriminate it's not it's even not meant to uh it's not meant to make anybody's life worse
00:44:13.780 it's just offensive like a lot of humor is all right uh somebody said what happened to the
00:44:22.580 dill burrito so the dill burrito uh was a burrito i made years ago and tried to market because it had
00:44:31.060 all the vitamins and minerals you needed for the day but there were a few problems number one the food
00:44:37.060 industry is crooked and so when we would go on a shelf there was a certain company who shall remain
00:44:43.780 nameless who would send their people in to put their products in front of it so we would actually sell 0.97
00:44:49.300 zero zero zero zero units because nobody would even know it was in the store so we got into you know
00:44:55.540 big so we got into 7-eleven and costco and walmart and we got into all the big stores but nobody ever saw
00:45:02.900 it and uh yeah you you're making a good guess in the uh in the comments and the other problem is that the
00:45:15.460 the product uh didn't have the repeat customers that we hoped because the product itself made you repeat
00:45:23.780 oh did it make you repeat
00:45:30.820 you know this is sort of a classic thing of course we we tested them all and i think everybody who tested
00:45:38.420 the prototypes said oh these are tasty and then we would go off and have you know intestinal distress
00:45:45.220 but you kind of think it's just you right like you don't think it's the product you think oh
00:45:50.340 maybe my body doesn't respond to the spicy food or something but the the feedback for the customers was
00:46:09.860 the feedback from the customers said apparently this product made you fart more than more than any product of all time
00:46:22.500 somehow this product got all the way through the testing you know we we all ate it and tested it we
00:46:35.140 and we all had the same experience like privately and individually we all had like
00:46:40.900 the worst heart attack you've ever had in your life but i think i think all of us individually didn't talk about it
00:46:47.060 and we just figured well it's just my body like you know it's it's just you know one of those things
00:46:52.660 didn't really think didn't really think it was a quality of the product so much just thought it was something about me
00:46:57.780 and then you find
00:47:02.100 they put it out there basically you could eat that thing once
00:47:06.260 and you destroy all your furniture
00:47:11.780 that's one of that's one of my best failures of all my failures i think i like that one the best 0.98
00:47:23.460 because it's so ridiculous oh god 0.76
00:47:31.220 that's all that's all i've got uh we could probably just feed those dill burritos to uh 0.94
00:47:36.980 to pigs to make methane i think we could fuel a major city with you know two with two two dill
00:47:45.460 burritos and a couple of pigs and you'd have all the methane you ever need all right that's all for
00:47:49.860 now i'll talk to you later all right i don't miss that's all for now i'll talk to you tomorrow