Episode 1349 Scott Adams: I Use Ari Cohn's Tweets to Teach You How to Spot Bad Thinking, Vaccine Misinformation Wars, More
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America has achieved air superiority over Mars, and Joe Biden is the new president of the United States, which is a big deal. Biden is also the most qualified man in the country to get the troops out of Afghanistan.
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hey everybody good morning all of you it's great to see you you know I have to say that although
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I do monetize my channel I'm pretty sure I wouldn't do it if I didn't enjoy it sort of
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well I'd like to start with the good news the good news is America has achieved air superiority
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on Mars oh yeah on Mars so we actually we I'm taking credit for anything that America does right
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well we just put a drone on Mars the drone's been there but they did a test flight short test flight
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and for the first time in the history of the universe human beings flew a spacecraft in the atmosphere of
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Mars now do you think it's a big deal that America is first to get air superiority I mean not really
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but we're heading in that direction where we would control the skies over Mars it's probably a big deal
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whoever has control of you know of the airspace and Mars someday 50 years 75 years from now whenever it
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really comes to matter it's gonna matter a lot it's gonna matter a lot so I think we're this is
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probably one of the most if you add this plus what you know Elon Musk is doing these are the most
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important things for the future of the country if you're looking at the the 50 year mark it's not
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climate change as big a deal as climate change is or is not controlling space and being dominant in
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space in the long run is everything because whoever controls that will control the wealth
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because there are trillions of dollars of you know rare rare minerals up there and asteroids and stuff
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but whoever has the the superior airspace just controls the ground if we don't get if we don't get a 50 year
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head start on that it's gonna be trouble China's gonna own space all right but we're doing a good job on
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Rasmussen will be reporting a little later this morning that 48% of likely voters say withdrawing US troops
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from Afghanistan is a good idea how would we know how does the public know anything about whether it's a good
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idea to remove troops from Afghanistan now I certainly favorite so if you ask me you know
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what do I think we should do I say yes let's let's get rid of our troops but how confident am I that
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that's the right decision and what would I base that on do I base that on all my secret intel about what
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the Taliban are up to I don't really have any secret stuff so you end up defaulting to really a
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a reasonable but knowledge free opinion because if you don't really know what's going on over there
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and how many of us do really do you understand what is the current feeling of Pakistan's leadership
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about the Taliban and you know is the Taliban changed over time any of that we don't know any
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of that but I think it's a fairly good rule that if you can't articulate a good reason for being there
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you kind of have to get out right so we can't articulate anymore any reason to be there at least
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not one that seems convincing so yes I would say that America is um wise to do this and I do give
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Biden credit I would have given Trump credit he would have done the same thing I think um so yeah
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good job um Biden getting us out of there and by the way maybe it takes a Joe Biden to get this done
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right have I told you a million times that there's no such thing as a good president
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and there's no such thing as a bad president there are only presidents who are suited for the
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challenges that happen to be going on at the moment so a good war president would be useless during
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peacetime and vice versa so it could be that just because Biden is less controversial that he could
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get the last of the troops out a little bit easier than Trump could because it's just automatic
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you know automatic against him for that so it's possible Biden was exactly the right person for
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this specific task don't know um in the same way that I believe Trump was exactly the right president
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for the Middle East for North Korea just certain people fit in certain situations um Chris Cuomo
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uh I don't know why it's so fun to talk about Chris Cuomo there's something about him where he projects
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maximum sincerity while a lot of observers are observing minimum sincerity so there's something about
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the disconnect between the sincerity that he projects I mean it looks real on screen if he were just a judge
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you know he how he operates uh in his job he's good at his job I think he's very good at his job actually
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that's why he still has his job but uh there is something that triggers people about him I get it
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I know I know what it is but I can't put my finger on it uh but he said that uh the only way there'll be
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fewer police shootings of the or police killings of the uh Chauvin Floyd kind I suppose that's what we're talking
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about uh even though that wasn't a shooting uh he says that only will happen when white people uh when more
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white people are killed by police so Chris Cuomo thinks that more white people killed by police would
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get white people more interested in solving this problem well as many people pointed out twice as
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many white people are killed by police but not a but it's a smaller percentage of the population
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so fewer as a percentage of white people get shot but twice as many of them um so I'm not sure that
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the data is going to give us a solution to this but I would like to point out this I've never met a
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white person who celebrated a criminal who resisted arrest and got killed by police have you I mean maybe
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there is one but I can't think of one is there any case you've ever heard of in which white people
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rallied around the victim when the victim caused his own demise by resisting arrest
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do you know what I say about white people who get killed by the police resisting arrest
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good for police all right does anybody even disagree with that is it is there anybody here who identifies
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as white who says uh who says we really want to celebrate the victim the person who caused the
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problem in the first place I don't think I've ever seen that in my whole life and so as Candace Owens
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has wisely pointed out trying to be helpful to the black community and I genuinely think she's
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trying to be helpful and says really helpful things it's just hard to get the message across
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and the message is if you have bad strategy you're gonna get a bad result do you know what's a bad
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strategy listen to Candace Owens she says it as clearly as you can it's a bad strategy to try to you know
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raise the situation for whatever group of people you're talking about in this case black americans if
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you're trying to improve their situation don't make heroes out of criminals that's never going to work
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so you should adopt a strategy that you observe working and I observe that white people of course
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nobody everybody's different right when you say white people it doesn't mean everybody's acting
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the same with every group um and I think you're smart enough to know that I don't have to say it every
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time but I feel like it's just a better strategy to demonize your criminals and to celebrate your
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police who kill them am I wrong isn't that obviously a better strategy for improving the lot of whatever
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people you want to improve I mean to me that's so glaringly obvious that I'm surprised anybody would
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disagree well we have Maxine Waters going the full hypocrite and calling for more protesting slash
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wink wink violence um especially if the Chauvin case has an acquittal now of course uh Kevin McCarthy
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and other Republicans Ted Cruz etc lots of people are quite rightly pushing back on Maxine Waters and
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saying hey that's the same thing you blamed President Trump for you said Trump was getting
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people all riled up to go protest and obviously it turned into violence and therefore if you're going
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to blame Trump you're going to have to blame yourself Maxine Waters so I don't know if there's ever
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been a clearer case of bad behavior than whatever it is that Maxine Waters is doing right now
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I think she needs to lose her job if there's any way that Congress can can get rid of her because
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anybody who's an elected official who's calling for unrest um I feel like maybe they're just not in the
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right job right and should she call for unrest and then there is unrest and I guess there was a you know
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a shooting like right after that I feel as if the the phrase blood on your hands is pretty pretty
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accurate in this case now keep in mind that I'm being consistent because I criticized Trump for not
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doing enough to stop the uh stop the rioting at the Capitol and I'm criticizing Maxine Waters for
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effectively you know blundering into the same space so at least I'm being consistent right I could be
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right or I could be wrong but at least I'm on the same side in both cases doesn't matter what your
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what your uh party is um but here's where this is heading so take this story about Maxine Waters who
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says basically there's going to be rioting if Chauvin is acquitted if you're the jury and you know that
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acquitting acquitting means you cause riots does that affect your judgment it should right because
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you're a human being the whole point of a a jury trial is that the idea is that American citizens
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can use their judgment on top of the law but it's always on top of the law right there's the law and we
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all revere it but the reason it's humans who make the final decisions is that we all agree that we'd
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rather have a human make the decision or a group of them who are reasonable right so if I'm a reasonable
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human I am definitely affected by the the possibility that I could spark a riot by my decision in the trial
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how would I not be affected by that I'd have to be an idiot not to be affected by that
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so let's keep that in mind that's just one thing now apparently we heard that an expert witness
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for the defense a place he used to live and people thought he still lived there
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was assaulted by people who put pig blood and a pig's head I guess on the porch or something
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so some poor person who bought that house became the victim of a mob and they had nothing to do with
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anything right they just found a dead pig head on their on their porch and pig blood on their house
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which is pretty nasty now again I don't know if the jury has a way to hear news do you can somebody
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tell me uh what level of um sequestering the jury is is experiencing I keep looking for that I thought
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it would be like an or maybe we don't know that yet because they're not sequestered or yeah they would
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have to be sequestered already right so somebody clear me up on that I don't have either the legal
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knowledge or the background of the case they are not sequestered somebody says they go home
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so all right let's let's say that uh oh there was no sequestration until today
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it was denied sequestered over the weekend people are telling me all right so there's some some question
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about what kind of sequestering there is but it seems to me as long as they have electronic devices
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it's not really a thing is it do you think the courts are monitoring their digital access
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that's not a thing is it can somebody tell me if that is a thing because I don't think it is
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it seems like that would be illegal if so if the jurors have their digital devices it doesn't matter
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where they are it doesn't how can you sequester somebody unless you take away their access and
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there's no way that would be legal it couldn't possibly be legal to take somebody's phone away
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from them for weeks could it or digital access so can we all agree that there's no such thing as
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sequestering in the modern world does anybody disagree with that because I don't want to make
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that assumption yet but I'm gonna let me start with us I don't think there's any such thing as
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keeping the information from the jury so let's assume that whatever sequestration happens it's porous
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and stuff is getting through that's fair right are we all on the same page that the jury definitely
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knows what's going on everybody I think we're all on the same page right so if you knew about the
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pig head for the guy who was just an expert he was just an expert doing his job and he gets a pig head
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and then Max Whedon Waters is calling for violence and then you're seeing all manner of
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you know suggestion that there would be violence and threats and how would you handle this if you were
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the jury what would you do could you vote to acquit him I don't think you could because if you're the
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jury and you vote 12 to nothing to acquit let's say on all charges very unlikely but let's say you did
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well that would cause violence so one thing that's out of the question if you want to avoid violence it's
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out of the question to acquit him of everything it's just out of the question at least three powerful
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lawyers who actually know criminal defense have said in public out loud with no pushback this case
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will probably not be decided on the facts or the law it will probably be decided on public opinion and
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influence and just how we feel about the whole situation maybe politics and all that stuff but
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there's probably an 80 chance that this cop is being tried for being white and being a cop
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hear that clearly officer chauvin may or may not be guilty of crimes for which he should be punished
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it's hard for me to tell as a layperson but separate from what he did or did not do that would be
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illegal or illegal that's not what the trial is about according to lawyers this is not even my
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own opinion this is people who know way more than I do they say he's on trial for being a white cop
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in 2021 and we're okay with that are you okay with that he's on trial for his fucking race
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for all practical purposes like on paper it's about a crime and there's a process but in reality
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according to the people who know again this is not some some whack idea I came up with on my own
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people who understand this space like Alan Dershowitz types you know Robert Barnes people really know this
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stuff they say it's not going to be decided on the facts well what's left if it's not going to be
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decided on the facts it's not going to be decided on the law what the fuck is left his race and his
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occupation right so he's not exactly being tried for being white he's not exactly being tried for
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being a cop but he is being tried for being a white cop in in 2021 that's really what it's about
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and we're just sitting here watching this like that's fucking okay it's not it's not okay it's
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not okay at all and of course can I say that without a bunch of idiots coming in and saying
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oh well you're supporting a racist killer of course not somebody will come in and say Scott how can you
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support a racist killer I'm not I'm supporting a system which should be giving all people a
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presumption of innocence and a fair trial and nothing like that's happening it's happening right in front
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of us we all see it we all see it and we're letting it happen right in front of us we should be ashamed
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you should actually be ashamed we're like really ashamed that you're letting this happen right in
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front of you with no no pushback at all well here's an idea from twitter user happy hammer and she suggested
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this by tweet she said the jury should vote guilty and send a note to the judge explaining that they
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are not following the law or the facts but protecting their families from a violent mob
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the judge should affirm the verdict and say he's doing so only to protect himself and his family from
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the mob now I don't quite buy into this exact suggestion but I'm going to modify it a little bit so
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I'm going to take this as a have you ever heard me use the phrase the bad idea is always useful
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because it suggests the good idea right so I would call this a really productive bad idea
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because it makes you think differently and then maybe you can come up with a good idea here's what
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I consider a good idea if I were on this jury and none of this is a joke none of this is slightly
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hyperbole this is literally absolutely positively 100% what I would do if I were on this jury
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I would convince the rest of the jurors and it wouldn't be hard that we would vote guilty on all points
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with no deliberation and we would include a note that said we did it for our own our own safety with no
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regard to the facts of the case and I would give the judge and the public you have to give it to
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the media or else nobody knows you say yeah we voted guilty on all counts without deliberation
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and we did it to protect our families there you go and do you know what I would add to the end of
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the note fuck you judge fuck you for putting us in this situation fuck you judge for risking our lives
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for fucking nothing because at the end of this are we going to have a trial which people trust
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and a system that we we we value no it's going to be worse the result of this judge
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is to make the system worse if if this goes through to some kind of a you know normal result
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the system will be worse the credibility of the system will be worse there will be a tremendous
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violation of justice independent of whether Chauvin did something that should be punished
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not even talking about that I'm talking about the fact that if you punish him for being a white cop in
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2021 which is what's happening you haven't even talked about whether you committed a crime
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I'd like to talk about that right we should all be talking about whether that was a crime
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really important but that's not what he's being tried for in any practical sense
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so yes if I were on that jury uh there's no way in hell that I would let them convict or not
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convict in any like normal way I would tear the room apart before I let that happen I mean mentally
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tear it apart not physically and um and I I could get the 11 other 11 jurors to go with that and by
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the way how hard would it be how hard would it be for me specifically me to convince 11 jurors
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to to go with this plan do you think I could do it
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yeah of course I could yeah because people will vote for their own self-interest
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and then I would just reframe it and saying forget about the trial
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the judge just absolutely fucked you and your family if you want the judge to fuck you
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and your family and you don't want to protect your family do whatever the fuck you want
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but it's not going to happen to me so uh you know join the side of the people protecting their families
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and don't be part of a corrupt system that makes everything worse
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right they can retry this in a smarter way and you can force them to do it now keep in mind
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uh it's about the system right it's so it's got to be about the system you got to protect the system
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if it's a good system and I am so in favor of our laws being decided by a jury of our peers
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and I would hope that my peers the jury in this trial would try to figure out what's right
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not what the law says because if the only thing they're looking at is the law
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first of all we don't believe it you know we don't believe that that's what they would do
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but they need to they need to look at what's good for the public and what's good for their families
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and I support the jury for walking out even you know I I would even consider walking out
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if you put me on that jury the day that I heard that the expert witness got a dead pig on his
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on his uh porch here here's what would happen your honor for you know the court would open up
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and I'd raise my hand and the jury and the judge would say this isn't the time for talking to the jury
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and then I would say well if you don't talk to me I'll be leaving right now because I can't be
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physically constrained so the judge is going to say okay okay say what you need to say and I would say
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look people are already being attacked for their opinions on this case today's my last day
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what do we need to do to make this civilized because today is my last day as a juror
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what would happen that would be the end of the case wouldn't it I mean maybe they replace me
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but the next person should be smart and say um if he if he got away with that and this guy just said
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I'm done today and I'm going home I'm going to do it too I'm pretty sure I could take down the
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whole trial I don't think it would be hard and it should happen remember I told you yesterday that
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I was a little bit suspicious this is not an allegation all right so I don't want to get sued
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so I'm making no allegations in this next piece I'm simply saying speculatively and hypothetically
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based on the things you know from your own experience do big companies ever lie about
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their competition to get an edge has that ever happened in the real world yes yes big companies
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do lie about other companies and sometimes you don't know where that lie came from because it
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might have worked its way through the media and then you think a reporter said something bad about
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the competition but it really came from the other company who was trying to kill their competition
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now you get that that's the real world right and I suggested that maybe and again this is not an
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accusation I'm just saying we live in a world where you have to consider this that when the j&j
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of vaccination the one that was uh if it did not have dangerous side effects that we don't know yet
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but if it did not have it was clearly the best one because you only needed one of them and it was
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based on the established technology that we'd feel a little safer with because we've used it before
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all right so coincidentally this news comes out about these exotic blood clots that only affect the best
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one and i said what are the odds that it legitimately the best one the one you only need one of and
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standard technology and also i guess it's easy it's stable so it's easier to ship and it's been just
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better in every way what are the odds that the best one is the only one that had these exotic side
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effects and i said you have to at least be open to the possibility that there's something bad happening
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in the background some competitor or maybe even an investor doesn't even have to be one of the
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companies could be just an investor trying to change things up get an advantage and if you thought to
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yourself when you heard that i don't think big established companies would do something like that
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right and then big company wouldn't do that would they well here's the news today apparently j&j
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has said in public that the their competitors also have uh blood clot problems except that
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so j&j a big pharmaceutical company just said in public right with no ambiguity they said it in public
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that their competitors have these these problems that there is no data to support that that actually
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exists so if you're wondering could it be that the competitors just hypothetically i don't
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have any evidence of this but could they be the type of people who would be in a situation to say
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something bad and untrue about j&j well we just watched j&j say something in public clearly
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untrue bad about their competitors so yes this happens um let me tell you my current thinking about
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vaccines if i can i'm going to hold out for the j&j vaccination so the one that's getting the most heat
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is the one i'm most interested in right now because number one i don't trust the criticisms
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i think they could be economically motivated don't know right there's no evidence of it
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let me be clear i've seen no fact to support that suspicion it's just an industry in which
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this just happens all the time and we're watching it we're watching it right in front of us
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happening right now so you don't even have to wonder if it's a thing it's happening
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so um if we get to the point where the j&j thing becomes uh back on the market even if it's only
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for you know men because maybe it's safer for men uh we don't know yet i i think i would take that one
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i feel like that's the one i want if only because it's one shot as and i think it doesn't knock you
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out like the other ones do after the second shot all right here's an interesting story and i don't know
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what to make of it yet and i'm gonna i'm gonna hold my opinion gavin newsom is uh bragging and maybe
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he's right maybe he's right now context here i live in california i've been fairly brutal in my
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um in my criticism of our governor but if he did something right i would like to call it out i just
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don't know so let me run it by you so um the reporting is that the governor in the state of
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new york used the pandemic as an excuse to do something really fast for the homeless
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and what they did now and i know when you first hear this this sounds like the worst idea you've ever
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heard so just um suspend your criticism until until i finish because when i get to the end it's going
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to look like a better idea than when i start because at the beginning it looks like the dumbest idea
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you've ever heard which is they bought up a bunch of hotels and moved all the the homeless people into
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hotels now part of it was for a covid separation but part of it was they wanted to put the homeless
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somewhere now many of you are uh more trained in understanding the news than the general public
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how many of you are thinking right now scott you're solving the wrong problem with california's
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it's not a homeless problem it's a mental health and addiction problem and even if you give everybody
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a home they're not going to want to be in it because they got mental health problems or whatever
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and addictions and who knows and they couldn't take care of it and blah blah blah whatever you think
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but um these are paired with the social services so you're putting a bunch of homeless people in one
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place and of course environments do affect people we're very programmed by the physical environment
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so could people who are in the worst situation mentally let's say could they be helped by simply
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having a cleaner safer physical environment i'd say yes i mean if they could stay there and you know if
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they can work with it yes it helps your uh it helps your mental situation but the real the real key to
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this is the quality i think of these social services that would be paired with the facilities that have a
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lot of homeless now i don't know how much this costs you know it was like pushing a billion dollars to
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buy the hotels then how many billions is it going to cost every year for the social services etc
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but i'm going to suspend my criticism of this because when you add the fact that they're adding the
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social services to the combining them in one place you might have something so i'm going to say let's find out
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right uh who is it who's uh how did i get out of nexium that's a strange question okay i was never in
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it um let's find out let's find out if this experiment works um i mean i'm skeptical but let's find out if
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it works if it does credit him if it doesn't well not surprised all right um i made a tweet yesterday
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that caused a little problem with uh one person in particular uh re cohn you might know him as a
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first amendment and defamation lawyer that you see on msnbc and i don't know cnn or wherever i'm not
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sure he's on one of those left-leading networks and i'll tell you the tweet i made i talked about this
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yesterday and then i'll tell you his uh his response to it and see if we can find the cognitive dissonance
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all right now most of you if you've been following me for a while have been trained in
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identifying fake news and trained in critical thinking far more than the average of the public
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so i think you'll be able to spot this pretty quickly all right so starting with my tweets so
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here's my tweet one way to eliminate police shootings during traffic stops is to allow only
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and only is important here uh uber-like self-driving cars and no other cars in urban areas if a perp is
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uh in one of those police can override its controls lock in the perp and make it drive to police
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headquarters for safe handling all right now first of all let me put on your reading comprehension hats
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all right reading comprehension forget about the quality of the ideas there reading comprehension
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um do both of these ideas because there's sort of two ideas in there do they seem similarly serious
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to you so the first idea is that if you had self-driving cars only and they were not owned by
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individuals rather they were owned by say an uber-like company that you would eliminate all traffic stops
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and therefore no problems could happen because nobody would ever be stopped there would never be a
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reason to stop a car in which the car's movement is controlled by a company so you might give a ticket
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to the company but you would never have a reason to stop an individual in a uber-like self-driving car
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so the first part of it is serious which is self-driving cars are coming if you did it right
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you could eliminate a whole bunch of potential problems does anybody disagree with that now
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you might disagree whether it will ever be practical to have self-driving cars all right i think if you
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got rid of the other cars on the road it becomes a lot easier right it's only self-driving cars they can
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be networked to each other even if one goes bad the other cars will know it because they're networked and
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they would know to avoid it and stuff so so i think it's inevitable that there will be self-driving
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cars it's not inevitable that they'll be owned by one company and networked together but that's that's
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what i'm saying could be a solution all right so the first part of the tweet i think is you should
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have taken it as completely serious saying that we have a self-solving problem the problem of police
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stops will solve itself if we did nothing it would just take 20 years or whatever it is and we could
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we could probably accelerate that the second part of the tweet is that if a purpose is is in one of
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those self-driving cars the police can override its controls lock in the perp and make it drive to
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police headquarters for safe handling all right reading comprehension was that a serious suggestion
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in the comments did you take that as a serious suggestion or or tell me how you did take it i won't
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leave the witness tell me how your reading comprehension took that now somebody says satire
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no it's not satire um but by nowhere you're basically trying to say it's not serious but i wouldn't use
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the word satire somebody says it's a joke well i wouldn't call it a joke i would say it's whimsical
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meaning that it is kind of funny but that wasn't the purpose so i didn't write it because i had a good
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punchline um somebody said a thought experiment you're getting close all right i already primed
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you early so i i wondered if the priming would help it's the bad idea i just told you that
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on another topic right and i've told you a number of times uh these broadcasts there's nothing more
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useful than a creative bad idea because the bad idea makes you think well well that won't work sure
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that's a bad idea but what if you modified it a little bit are you ready let's take the bad idea
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and see if we can modify it so it actually work here's a modification instead of driving it
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automatically to the police suppose uh there's facial recognition which there probably would be
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you get into your your car and the car knows who you are and it knows you have an arrest warrant
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and a little message comes on it says you have two choices you can go nowhere or you can drive to the
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police department uh to a secure area that's got concrete walls and the door closes behind you
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and the police will just keep you in there as long as you want you'd like to stay in there a couple
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days and not surrender that's okay just stay there we don't care it's completely safe you can't get out
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and it's concrete walls so you could certainly wait until you could get the person down safely
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so there's certainly no possibility that is more dangerous than a traffic stop if if they drove to a
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secure place with concrete walls and blah blah so the first thing is don't assume it's being
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implemented in the worst possible way that's the dumbest way to read anything is okay let's assume
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that the idea has as a base assumption that we'll implement it in the worst possible way there's no such
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thing as a good idea that still works if you implement it in the worst possible way so how about assuming
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you don't do that how about assuming that you work through the problems and you figure out what works
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and what doesn't so um certainly if you gave the person the the option of driving to the police uh and
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and essentially uh surrendering or it doesn't go anywhere is that more dangerous than our current
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situation it feels like it's less dangerous right and it's just a little bit of modification
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to the bad idea the bad idea is that the car just takes you to the police station whether you like
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it or not right that would be the bad idea but it's easy to take that and then tweak it a little bit
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and say all right well what if you just got one option it's the only place it'll take you
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otherwise you're gonna have to work out your problems all right but let's let's see how uh
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re cone uh dealt with this so after reading my tweet this is what re said and keep in mind he's the
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lawyer he says sure what kind of legal problem could there possibly be with an automatic arrest for
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traffic stops if the cop feels like it and then parenthetically read you're not white
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and then he goes on but on a more fundamental level just what kind of traffic stop are cops going to be
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and then he ended by characterizing me as and i quote fucking dumb
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well let's pull apart re's uh analysis so first of all he says what kind of legal problems could
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there be with an automatic arrest for traffic stops the idea is there are no traffic stops
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so re's criticism of huh how about we eliminate the possibility of any traffic stops because there
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wouldn't be any reason to stop a self-driving car that was owned by an uber-like company because who
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are you going to give the ticket to uber the programmer the person in the car is completely innocent they
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didn't have any choice so re first of all doesn't understand that there would be no scenario in which you
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would give a ticket to the driver because there is no driver of a self-driving car all right so first of all
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complete lack of understanding of a simple concept and then he takes this to the cops in rereading this
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what could possibly go wrong if the cops you know arrest you because they feel like it read you're not white
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what what part of my idea even suggested in any way that there would be a racial component but
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re's problem is that the cops would be sitting there with their remote control and they'd see like
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white white people go by in cars and remember every car is obeying the law because they're self-driving
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cars none of them are breaking the law but in ari's reading the cop would be sitting there
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white driver good white driver white driver white driver black driver bump black driver got him and
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then the car would be taken over by the police but only the black drivers because you know police are
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racist and then they would make only the black drivers drive to the police department and surrender
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themselves now what would they be surrendering for well apparently no crime they would be
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surrendering for being black in a self-driving car according to ari cone that was his interpretation
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ari you do understand that the problem we're trying to fix is that there's a concern that the police are
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targeting people of color that's the current situation that's the part we're trying to not do
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that's the part that goes away that the police wouldn't have any reason to target anybody they wouldn't even
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be there they wouldn't even have a reason all right so that was his insightful uh and and keep in mind that he
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he he capped it off by calling me fucking dumb all right um so how was i going to respond to this
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now keep in mind that uh yesterday i told you before before anybody was even blowing this up on twitter
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i told you that i wasn't completely serious or i said you shouldn't take me that too seriously
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the part about the car drives to the police department you heard that right yesterday i said before any of this
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happened i said don't take that part too seriously that's more just a thought experiment right now
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somebody pointed out and this is a good point what if there's an armed person in one of these cars
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and what if they try to escape the car by shooting the window out that'd be pretty bad for people around
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there yeah that's a problem yeah if you if you actually forced the person not to be able to get out of
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the car under any circumstance and drove them to the police department that would be a problem so
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just don't do that just give them a choice of going to the police department or i can't go anywhere
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that's all and you're done now it wouldn't be more dangerous than police stopping somebody who has a
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at least who is close to being able to pull a trigger i mean you don't want the police to be
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stopping them so it's better almost anything is better than what's happening now
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all right but here's the trap suppose i had responded to ari and saying ari you're taking
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seriously part of a tweet you should not take that seriously i don't do i don't design products on twitter
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twitter is just sort of you know top of that idea see where it goes and but here's the trap do you see
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the trap because he asked me to defend myself but what would happen if i had what would happen if my
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response to him saying my idea is fucking dumb what if i'd said oh you took the tweet seriously it wasn't
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meant to be taken at that level of seriousness what would have happened do you see the trap
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the trap is yeah the trap is i lose it was a trap so the trap was that if i'd said ari you're taking
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me seriously when this shouldn't be taken as like a product design everybody would have jumped in and
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said oh nice try scott you got caught you said something stupid and now you're trying to defend
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it as not that serious oh it's just a joke i get it it's just satire ha ha ha ha ha gotcha we gotcha
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we gotcha backpedaling and we gotcha being stupid two that's two crimes one is being stupid and the
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other is lying about it and saying you were just joking gotcha gotcha so i knew that so having lots of
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experience in uh media stuff i could see the trap forming so what do you do how do you avoid the trap
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so here's how i tried to do it not so sure i uh did it well um
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i uh i just retweeted him and i said uh that uh i'd let the commenters go first and and let the
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commenters clear him up so my best play was to let the other people who were watching the conversation
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come in and say that they understood without me telling them that that wasn't to be taken seriously
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which it did so lots of people poured in and said uh i don't think you're supposed to take that part too
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seriously which was the correct interpretation so once other people had said they read it differently
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then finally i can come in but if i came in first it would look like i primed the other people and
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they were just agreeing with me so i had to have other people go first and then i could go in you
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do you get that this is you know living in the in the media and in the public as i do you learn these
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to see these traps before they form all right so here's how it went so um i let other people uh
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comment and then re commented this he said uh uh so what you're saying is you can't defend your own idea
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lol uh have i ever taught you how to spot cognitive dissonance it's in that book right behind me win
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bigly i think i also put it in loser think but it's definitely in win bigly and the trick is
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this when somebody starts a sentence with so and then they mischaracterize your opinion after that
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um that's cognitive dissonance pretty much every time now i can't say it's a hundred percent but i
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haven't seen an exception every time you see a sentence in this form starts with the word so
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and is followed by some weird absolute that's a person who's been triggered literally into a
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condition of cognitive dissonance now you have to look for the trigger all right there's no
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cognitive dissonance without a trigger there has to be something that causes it it doesn't just sort
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of happen and here the trigger is very obvious the trigger is that he had committed to calling me
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fucking dumb in public and then when people poured into the comments and told them that they read it
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properly and that a proper reading would remove the objections what's he going to do what do you do
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if you're a public lawyer and your job is to be smart in public that's his job he's on tv being smart in
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public that's why he's hired and then you find out that you are really really dumb in public that's the trigger
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so the trigger is he can't um and this would be any person like you put any normal person in the same
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situation they would be triggered exactly the same way so this is not a comment about uh re cone
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this is a universal comment anybody in this situation would have his exact experience which is you can't
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integrate that my entire job and identity is being smart in public but i just did something so amazingly
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dumb in public like like really dumb those can't be reconciled so when that happens cognitive dissonance
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comes in to explain how two opposites i'm very smart but i just did something very dumb how that can be
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integrated and the integration is lol you can't defend yourself can you scott well he didn't see part
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two which is first i have to let the commenters show him that a a wiser reading of the words
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gives you a different uh outcome all right so just to show that other people saw it uh differently
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than ari here are some other replies david uh gilly replied he said to ari where did scott say anything
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about an automatic arrest waiting waiting we'll we'll be waiting for through infinity for this answer yes
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correct there was uh there was a little too much red into that then uh an engineer jd christione
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says i'd imagine they would need a warrant for an automatic arrest still and to be honest i'd much
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prefer having a self-driving car take me to a police station compared to having my door kicked in
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and my house trashed all while my neighbors are watching now what did this this commenter who is an
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engineer and maybe he watches my content what did he do correctly what he did correctly was compare it
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to the alternative what do i talk about all the time you can't judge anything until you've compared
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it to an alternative so he did he compared it to the alternative right that's good thinking now you
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could disagree with this conclusion but not the fact that he compared it to an alternative so that's just
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smart um then somebody else said uh i guess uh j sinsa texts whoever that is they pretty much can do
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the former now meaning just you know stop anybody they want for any reason and the whole point is that
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there wouldn't be a cause for any traffic traffic stops so another another people are agreeing that they
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they see it the same way um blah blah blah and uh okay so the other thing that people do when they see this
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kind of thing is that they imagine it would be designed in the worst possible way i think i mentioned that
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and uh that would be a case of uh joe utchill i think he's a he's a reporter and he commented he said uh
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just to make me look extra stupid he put some dots in this he goes the dot dot dot dot the driver still
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needs to exit the car at some point scott i mean the driver still has to exit the car
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but this is an example of assuming you would design the dumbest possible system you would make sure if
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you did this at all you'd make sure that it went to a safe place so that when the person exited the
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car it's the safest possible way to exit the car but yeah they have to exit the car one is a dumb way
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one is a smart way why would you assume you design it the dumb way all right um here's another uh
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criticism since less than one percent of traffic stops result in harm it's a needless policy
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policy so a notorious legal somebody who has some kind of legal background believes that it's a waste
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of time trying to fix this you know problem of police stopping people because uh less than one
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percent of traffic stops result in harm to which i say well that might be true i mean somewhere in that
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neighborhood less than one percent probably but those are the ones that cause the riots the one
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percent that cause the harm are a hundred percent of the riots it's a hundred percent of the racist
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animosity so how bad could you be a math to look at this traffic stops and ignore the riots that are
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destroying the country together anyway um and i'm pretty sure that um because i agree black lives matter
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i'm pretty sure that stopping one percent of the problematic traffic stops to stop a hundred percent
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of the riots is a positive thing all right um and then here's my favorite have i told you that
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uh about half of the news is based on imaginary people all right here's another one that's just
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based on an imaginary person so some user called uh uh sir food a lot is weighing in with this
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conversation that says on twitter um uh why are these uh f nuts he swears perfectly fine with the
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government taking control of your car but won't wear an effing mask so here this twitter user believes
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there's a person who is perfectly fine with the government controlling your self-driving car
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but they won't wear a mask who is that he's really mad about the imaginary people it's not me
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that doesn't describe me uh all right the uh and the kyle rittenhouse case you all know kyle
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shot two people in what looked like self-defense but he's gonna be on trial for murder and um there
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was a gofundme and the news came out that i guess the the list of donors leaked and one of them was a
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utah paramedic so he donated to the defense fund for kyle rittenhouse and it was like 10 bucks
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right just small donation and the guardian wrote about it and the next thing you know
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um a reporter shows up at his house this utah paramedic to try to shame him i guess i mean
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on the surface it was news but why are you going to this guy's house he gave ten dollars he gave ten
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dollars to something that he thought was supporting justice and this guy needs to be dragged through the
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news we're going to make a victim out of this utah paramedic paramedics save lives he's this guy's not
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a jerk he's a guy who looked at the video just like all of us did he reached an opinion made a free
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person's decision to put some of his money behind his opinion and then the news is going to take him
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down for that this is the most disgusting uh unethical immoral thing you'll ever see in the news
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i mean really truly disgusting all right here's something that made me laugh a lot uh especially
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lately uh james lindsey uh also known as conceptual james sometimes on uh on twitter um i believe he has
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done some or said some controversial things which i'm not fully informed on so i'm not i'm not buying
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into any controversial ideas that he may or may not have said because i don't even know what they are
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but i know that he's provocative so i'm just telling you i'm not aligning with all of his opinions i'm
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just giving you this one's kind of brilliant two tweets and he says i don't think a lot of people
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realize how much resentment gets boiled up in people who are smart but too impractical to know how to make
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money especially when they see quote dumb people making more money over producing these bourgeois
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types is very dangerous to any society and then he goes on i suspect a lot of the reason so many
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academic temperament types turn to marxism and other marxian ideologies is that they're simultaneously
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not good at making money smarter than average and suckers for theoretical constructs that
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would work if only people were smarter oh my god that hits that hits exactly home doesn't it
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you know when you see people complaining about anything you always have to ask okay are they
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really complaining about that or is it just political or is it just some personal problem they're having
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at home and this just hits this this feels right doesn't it it feels that the academics
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are working off some kind of anger or guilt or feelings of low self-esteem and that uh the way
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they do it is this way and and uh maybe that's all that's going on now of course i doubt it's all
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that's going on but uh this is definitely part of it there there's definitely a jealousy arrogance
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element and all of this all right um here's a prediction for you this is my prediction before
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long i said the consumers of ad-based news which is most of it right most of the news is supported
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by advertising that the consumers of that will be seen as mental slaves to ridiculous narratives that's
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largely the situation now right people who are consuming cnn and msnbc especially um are they're
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basically victims they're the mental slaves to ridiculous narratives now are you going to jump
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on me and say but what about fox news yeah fox news too fox news too the only difference and i feel
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strongly about this is that um the people who consume news on the right fox news etc tend to also
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be exposed to the news on the left they might prefer the narratives on the right but at least they see
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both of them more likely than the people on the left i think that's anecdotally that's so obvious that i
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feel like uh science would support it um but then i'm going to go on and say that uh uh the consumers of
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subscription-based news let's say substack is one locals is another platform with subscription that's the
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one i'm on and that they're that they will be the only three free thinkers and that the world is actually
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going to bifurcate into people who are mental slaves to narratives they've been fed that will be
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all the ad-based advertising-based news but people who have moved to at least including some of the
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subscription-based stuff and i'm going to call out as i often do glenn grainwald as he's in substack
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um matt taibi also in substack i'm in locals you know greg gotfeld is in locals um lots of people are
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in locals as well so i think that's where it's going the future will be two types of people mental
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slaves and free thinkers and if you don't have a subscription so that you can get the free
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thinkers you will be just a slave to the narrative and that's where it's going
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is my show for the day and um pretty soon can anybody tell me when the closing arguments
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for the defense happened in the chauvin trial does anybody know when that happens it's this week
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right um so here's my other prediction no matter what the evidence seems to show in this case with
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chauvin and floyd no matter what the evidence showed i do believe that the closing arguments and
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especially this attorney he appears to be quite qualified i believe that he can in his closing comments
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absolutely destroy the prosecution he couldn't do it with experts because they they kind of fell a
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little bit short but i think that it would be easy to demonstrate demonstrate probable cause and the
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way i do it is what i've told you before i would just say imagine you're this police officer that the
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whole case depends on him knowing he's causing this danger to floyd the whole case depends on his mental
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knowledge that he knew he was doing it and preferred to do it maybe didn't know he was going to kill
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him but knew he could put him in the situation where he you might have a tragic outcome how does that
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make sense with the fact that he did it slowly in front of people filming him that's the end of the case
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nobody you can't even imagine it in your mind that somebody did it intentionally but they also did it
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in front of a crowd of spectators filming it it's unimaginable that that happened and so
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that's a lot of reasonable doubt and it wouldn't matter what the evidence said as soon as you framed
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it like that i'd say oh okay i just know in my own mind he he couldn't have been thinking that that's
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the end of it you don't need any evidence for that now i don't know if you can say that in a closing
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argument can you can the closing argument depart from the facts presented in the trial i think they
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can a little bit right there must be some limit to what you can do but i feel like you could ask people
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to to judge the case using common sense and that you can encourage them what that looks like i think
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that's okay right all right yeah somebody says ask uh ari uh but you've already said facts won't matter
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in the verdict correct what i just said was that uh the argument wouldn't be based on so much the
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facts that were presented but the facts that are already in people's heads putting putting a fact into
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a head and making it matter is really really hard but telling people to use the facts that they
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already accept as facts and just reframe it that's really easy so that's why this looks easy to me
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you don't have to introduce any facts you just reframe it and anybody who hears the reframe is
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going to say well that at least gives me some doubt gotta say gives me some doubt all right that's all
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i got for today and i will talk to you tomorrow