Real Coffee with Scott Adams - May 10, 2021


Episode 1371 Scott Adams: Politicizing Science, Bad Diet Makes Your Offspring Mentally Ill, CNN Pushes Foxitis, and More


Episode Stats

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1 hour and 10 minutes

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155.21227

Word Count

10,878

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9

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

In this episode of the podcast, I talk about the "Pando's Pandemic" and how it may be the best thing that has ever happened to the restaurants in my town. I also talk about social media censorship and whether or not social media companies should be allowed to edit out bad content.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 back and my printer has new ink and my goodness it's working like a champ and that makes my day
00:00:07.040 all the better and do you know what would make it even better than that
00:00:11.640 well yes that's right that's right you just said it out loud where you are
00:00:17.900 it's the simultaneous sip i heard every one of you say that out loud and all you need is a
00:00:22.740 cup or mug or a glass of tanker gels to stein a canteen jug a flask a vessel of any kind
00:00:26.700 fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of
00:00:32.220 the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous sip
00:00:35.660 and it's going to happen all over the world simultaneously you've heard of the internet
00:00:40.920 that connects everybody that's nothing wait till you see the simultaneous sip it happens now go
00:00:48.080 ah yeah perfect just perfect
00:00:57.840 so i'm going to be a little ray of uh optimism today i'll tell you i don't know what it looks like in
00:01:07.660 your town but in my town uh on weekends anyway they're they're continuing to close the streets
00:01:14.560 so that they can have an outdoor dining now where i live closing the main street to have outdoor
00:01:22.300 dining turns main street into like a festival like it's a lot of people walking in the streets and
00:01:28.440 the restaurant chairs are you know extending into the halfway into the street and i've never seen more
00:01:34.840 people in my town going out to eat than i saw this weekend not one time not ever have i seen as many
00:01:43.580 people out and about in public mostly going out to eat and i'll tell you if this is any indication
00:01:51.900 of what other things are doing somebody says just like toronto same in my town i'm going to read some
00:01:58.140 of your comments uh yes staffing issues yes the service was terrible every restaurant you go to
00:02:08.000 they're apologizing because they can't get staff to work they can't get anybody to come in yeah so
00:02:13.760 it's a big problem but they don't have a problem with customers the customers are definitely coming
00:02:19.360 out yeah i'm looking at uh some of your comments and it looks uh yeah i i don't think i've ever wanted
00:02:28.300 to eat outside more than i have this year and i'll tell you this is a california thing of course
00:02:34.080 but eating outdoors in california even in cold weather if you've got a you know an outdoor heater
00:02:41.020 there it's better than eating indoors it's just a little bit more festive and interesting and so the
00:02:47.960 weird thing about the pandemic is it looks like it may have forever improved the restaurant situation
00:02:54.920 where i live because if it stays this way i'm going to be really happy rasmussen reports
00:03:01.720 and uh this might not surprise you that there are no groups no liberals no independents no conservatives
00:03:10.580 who believe that social media can edit out bad content in an unbiased way so the liberals don't
00:03:20.100 think they can do it the um the conservatives don't think they can do it basically nobody thinks that
00:03:28.020 the platforms could be unbiased so you would think that uh you would think that would be enough to
00:03:36.320 get some kind of legislation or uh i don't know monopoly control or something on there but the trouble is
00:03:44.260 if you were to pass a law that you could sue the uh social media companies for content they would
00:03:51.960 pretty much have to kick people like me off am i wrong about that imagine if you would
00:03:59.100 the social media companies could be sued for letting content on there that's a little too dangerous
00:04:08.440 doesn't that mean they have to be more aggressive about who they get rid of
00:04:12.660 so somebody says they already are but wouldn't they have to be more aggressive about that
00:04:19.140 to reduce any chance of uh getting sued i think so let's let's take an example i don't believe
00:04:26.720 tucker carlson has ever been booted off of social media fact check me on that but i think he's still
00:04:33.300 on there do you think if if social if the platforms were you had to defend against anybody claiming that
00:04:41.240 they had misled them and therefore somebody got hurt uh don't you think that they would have to
00:04:46.860 ban tucker carlson on day one right i i think on day one because the news at least the let's say the
00:04:55.740 the left-leaning news is reporting that tucker is saying things about vaccinations which the people
00:05:02.100 on the left think is inappropriate so if it were their job to protect the world and to be the editors
00:05:09.920 of content i think they would have to look at tucker's content and then look at the the medical
00:05:16.420 professionals and say a lot of medical professionals are saying that the way tucker talks about this
00:05:23.100 is going to make people a little less trusting of science or something all right i can't really make
00:05:30.520 the argument but you can imagine it could be made i feel like this is one of those cases where you should
00:05:37.280 be be careful what you wish for because if these social media platforms have to edit your content
00:05:44.740 they will they will you're just not going to like it at all so i don't know what the right answer is but
00:05:50.580 nobody's nobody's came up with a good answer yet competition doesn't seem like it's going to work
00:05:57.000 right i don't see competition working because they have too much of a head start
00:06:01.940 so if anybody comes up with a workable idea i'd love to see it but we don't have one right now
00:06:08.540 um i said on social media yesterday that if anyone was willing to buy the rights to dilbert
00:06:15.520 after my retirement which is not any specific date yet um that they should talk to me soon
00:06:24.400 because i'm i'm in the process of planning how to how to transition from active dilbert cartoonist
00:06:32.160 to no longer dilbert cartoonist i would still do this by the way that the stuff that i'm doing on live stream
00:06:39.280 i wouldn't have any reason to retire from this because i like it but the dilbert stuff has weird deadlines
00:06:45.540 and it's real work so if i could sell those rights to somebody who thought it would become a classic or
00:06:52.980 a you know someday would turn into dilbert diners and dilbert movies uh could be a good good time to
00:06:59.900 get it if there's some crypto billionaire out there who wants it so come you know how to find me all
00:07:06.000 right i saw some photos of trump uh i guess he's going to be moving north to his bedminster site for the
00:07:13.500 summer and maybe it was just the way the photos were taken but he looked about 40 pounds thinner
00:07:20.200 does anybody see that i tweeted around and i'm wondering if it's just the photography but i don't
00:07:27.120 really know how you could photograph somebody to look that much thinner at least in two of the photos
00:07:33.780 he looked like i would guess at least 40 pounds so i wonder if he's doing that intentionally
00:07:40.160 yeah i wonder if he's he's trimming down to get into fighting weight exactly
00:07:47.060 yeah interesting oh somebody says he's not wearing a bulletproof vest oh you know that's not a bad
00:07:54.320 that theory is not bad if he always had a bulletproof vest on when we saw him before
00:08:00.440 maybe could be part of it um dr nicole sapphire has a article on fox news site today about uh
00:08:10.320 um why waiving patent rights for the vaccines might be a big mistake now the idea is that
00:08:17.540 the smaller countries can't get a hold of all the vaccines they need because the only way they
00:08:23.480 could do it is if they made their own but the only way to do that is if they had the formulas and
00:08:28.440 they could make these vaccines without violating any laws so the biden administration is looking at
00:08:35.360 waiving those patent rights for those smaller countries as dr sapphire argues the only reason
00:08:41.580 that there are any vaccines is because of intellectual property protection if you took away into intellectual
00:08:49.420 property protection in general nobody would make anything right so it's another situation in which
00:08:56.840 um it seems that democrats continually ignore human motivation now i'm going to give you more and
00:09:07.620 more examples of this as time goes by so i started out saying this is the main difference between the left
00:09:13.100 and the right you think it's some kind of philosophical preference thing but it's not there's just a variable
00:09:20.320 that one side ignores and it happens to be the biggest one the biggest variable is human motivation always it's the
00:09:28.900 one thing that will determine how anything goes and they and the the left doesn't have just a different opinion
00:09:36.240 of it they act like it doesn't exist if you act like it doesn't exist and it's the biggest variable you're just
00:09:45.040 comical you're not a serious person if you ignore human motivation now that said i think the general
00:09:52.980 case that ip intellectual property protection is necessary is strong but what about a pandemic
00:10:01.320 what about a pandemic because this is the one situation in which
00:10:06.640 everybody's everybody's better off if everybody gets vaccinated or enough of everybody at least we
00:10:14.380 think that's the current thinking right so i would say that while it's true i agree with you know
00:10:20.780 dr sapphire's argument there may be a pandemic exception because there's nothing like a situation where you
00:10:28.260 need to get herd immunity and the only way you can do it is to get these vaccinations out there etc
00:10:33.480 so i feel like there's some way to slice this thing so everybody wins it wouldn't be hard for the
00:10:41.040 pharma manufacturers of the vaccines to make billions and billions just doing what they're doing
00:10:46.960 at the same time maybe there's some way to make more available for the countries that need it i feel like
00:10:53.400 we can i think i think we could finesse this one i don't think it should be a question of getting rid of
00:10:59.160 rights or not speaking of drugs do you remember back when hydroxychloroquine was in the headlines
00:11:07.060 and um there was study after study that said it did not work and i and other people were saying
00:11:15.020 but why are you studying the wrong thing because with hydroxychloroquine they kept studying for example
00:11:22.760 hospitalized people who were already in bad shape to which i would say uh that won't tell you anything
00:11:30.400 since the whole point of it is to get it early and we don't think it necessarily even works if you get
00:11:36.100 it too late so why are you testing the only thing that doesn't matter it's almost like you want it not
00:11:42.620 to work well now we have the same situation and by the way i don't have an opinion on hydroxychloroquine
00:11:48.960 i'm just telling that story as a setup to this story so now we have this ivermectin another
00:11:55.920 therapeutic some people say it works uh i don't believe anything in science anymore so i don't
00:12:01.800 know if it works or not if you send me 10 articles that say here's a here all these trials that say it
00:12:08.820 works i will give them zero credibility zero do you how much should you trust a study or an article
00:12:18.640 about a therapeutic or something really just science how much should you trust it in general
00:12:26.180 none you shouldn't trust it at all zero credibility for scientific articles because the person who wrote
00:12:34.000 the article is not the scientist and you don't have the ability to judge whether it's right so while
00:12:39.440 some of these the articles and studies will be correct you can't tell you don't have any tools
00:12:46.600 to know if these studies are accurate or not none now time will help but you don't have time
00:12:53.440 we're in the pandemic now right if you tell me in 20 years will we know yeah probably but we don't have
00:13:01.440 any tools to know now because science is so corrupted that uh you don't you really shouldn't trust it
00:13:07.840 completely so with ivermectin i was just reading an article that looks like the same game plan has been
00:13:14.820 run again which is it might be that the vaccination companies the manufacturers are funding trials
00:13:22.700 allegedly which are designed to fail because if you thought you could get away with just these this
00:13:30.100 ivermectin maybe you wouldn't get vaccinations so some of the the tests of ivermectin are the same kind
00:13:37.460 weird situation where the the nature of the trial from its design looks like it's designed to fail
00:13:44.840 here are two ways to design the test to fail you give it to the wrong group of people that's number
00:13:52.140 one so like the hydroxychloroquine they would give it to badly sick people and then they show it doesn't
00:13:58.920 work well it wasn't supposed to right that was the use that if it worked it'd be great but nobody was
00:14:06.680 really expecting that right so you first you test the wrong group and then the other thing you can test
00:14:13.040 is a different kind of wrong group that's too small so the next thing you do is a small group
00:14:20.240 of healthy people who are young and then all of the healthy people who are young
00:14:25.500 don't don't die but maybe one does because it's a group that's extra healthy and then you say well
00:14:35.260 we concluded nothing because there weren't enough people and not enough people died in either the test
00:14:41.880 group or the control group because it was a small group and they're healthy people so of course they
00:14:48.160 didn't go to the hospital so basically you do the whole study and you conclude we see no no difference
00:14:54.760 between the control group and the ivermectin because there weren't enough people you could never rise to
00:15:01.440 the level of statistical usefulness it was designed so it couldn't possibly give you an answer
00:15:08.200 now the ivermectin here's the claim is that the two kinds of trials are those kinds the two that any
00:15:16.700 reasonable person just you and i would know are not going to give you anything useful so is it a
00:15:24.220 conspiracy is this happening intentionally don't know we only know it looks like it right that's all
00:15:35.040 we know we know it looks exactly like it's being taken off the table with or without any information
00:15:42.800 about whether it works so i can't tell you it works or doesn't which is the whole point of this
00:15:48.160 i guess um here's another uh interesting study i don't know that this has been reproduced but there's
00:15:55.300 one study um and before i even tell you what the study is what are the odds that it's true if there's
00:16:03.740 one study and it's peer-reviewed and it's let's say it's a high quality study what are the odds that it's
00:16:10.220 true about 50 so about half of the things that are peer-reviewed and look pretty good initially
00:16:18.140 about half of them end up being debunked later so the fact that there's good information and
00:16:26.100 maybe the study's good too i'm not the one who can tell doesn't really tell you anything
00:16:30.860 but maybe 50 likelihood now when something agrees with your common sense
00:16:37.420 and there's a trial well then you're far more persuaded even if you're misled right
00:16:45.000 and this does agree with my common sense so i'll just say my common sense and at least one trial
00:16:51.620 says the following that if parents eat junk food uh and then have children the children will be
00:17:00.540 uh less intelligent and maybe have um maybe have brain disorders so the quality of the diet of the
00:17:09.480 parents can affect forever the mental health of the child are you surprised why would you be surprised
00:17:19.480 is there anybody who should be surprised by that that unhealthy parents have less healthy children
00:17:28.240 i mean even if you if you remove the genetic component i can't imagine any situation where a less
00:17:36.860 healthy mother gives you know creates just as healthy children as a healthy mother i don't know if
00:17:44.460 there's any if there's any story of that all right so just keep an eye on that one i give it a 50
00:17:53.460 likelihood of being true but it matches my common sense all right here's the most absurd thing um so
00:18:00.760 the biden administration is putting together or has a 46 person federal scientific integrity task force
00:18:07.560 that's right it's a federal scientific integrity task force so you know that's good i mean just listen
00:18:14.440 to it um for members for more than two dozen government agencies and they're going to meet to look back
00:18:21.820 through 2009 to see uh where any decisions that should have been based on evidence and research were
00:18:28.800 politicized so they're trying to find out where politics distorted science do you think they'll find
00:18:36.740 any what do you think do you think they're going to find any examples of where politics distorted science
00:18:45.080 i'm going to say yes yes yes they will do you know why because there's a task force and they're looking
00:18:53.280 for it if you find if you put together a task force to look for a big foot in your uh in your garbage
00:19:03.100 container they'd find it if you put together a task force is big enough and you make them look for
00:19:10.320 something they're going to find some whether it's there or not so yeah they're definitely going to
00:19:15.340 find some i would expect they'd find a lot but here's my question to you is there any science that's not
00:19:22.240 politicized is that even a thing can you think of any example in which a an administration
00:19:29.980 be they democrat or be they republican doesn't matter to my example can you think of any example
00:19:37.180 in which the science would come to the administration and then the administration would say
00:19:42.860 yeah just put it out just the way it is don't even put our own summary on it don't change it just put
00:19:49.480 it out just the way it is yes if it agrees with them politically right so when it agrees with the
00:19:59.520 administration yeah they'll just put it right out there when it doesn't agree with the things
00:20:04.800 they've been saying what do you think would happen do you think they put it right out there no not in
00:20:10.940 the real world they shade it they they interpret it they summarize it they put it through the news
00:20:17.060 filter so the cnn will say it the way they want to say it right so there are only two possibilities
00:20:24.000 when politics is involved coincidentally the science agrees with the administration
00:20:29.040 or it gets massaged and biased because that's what politics does so my assumption is that all of it
00:20:38.800 is politicized even the stuff that went directly through without being edited the fact that something
00:20:44.320 went through without being edited just means it agrees with the administration it doesn't mean it
00:20:49.140 wasn't politicized they just got lucky that time so i can't imagine there's any example of anything
00:20:57.080 important that wasn't ruined by politics now what are they going to do when they look at climate change
00:21:04.260 because my observation would be they they're going to conclude that the trump administration
00:21:13.420 biased the the climate change science of course you don't even need to wait for the
00:21:18.980 conclusion right and and also it doesn't matter if they did or not it's irrelevant to whether the
00:21:24.980 trump administration did anything bad a 46 person panel yeah they're going to find something bad
00:21:31.920 even if it didn't happen so but also they should find that the democrats have politicized the science of
00:21:42.440 climate change probably just as much right so how are they going to handle that here's what i think i think this 46 panel group is going to say that republican administrations politicized climate change and democrat administrations did not and then what are you going to do with your 46 person panel ignore them
00:22:12.440 right ignore them if that's what they come up with don't even read the rest of the report
00:22:18.920 don't even read the rest of the report but in the unlikely event and this is possible
00:22:27.240 i just think it's less likely but in the unlikely event
00:22:31.560 oh eddie eddie just paid ten dollars to make me see his comment that he likes it when i ban people in real time
00:22:45.100 well eddie i'll i'll do that for you if i can if if somebody crosses the line well anyway if in the unlikely event that the biden administration says
00:22:56.080 that climate science was politicized by both democrat people and republicans but different ways
00:23:04.400 i'm going to say to myself whoa let's see what else they say because at that point they have me
00:23:11.440 right you had me at hello if you tell me climate science was politicized by both the left and the right
00:23:17.480 indifferent administrations i'm all in you can win me over with that argument and then i'll look at the other
00:23:25.960 stuff but but if you start with the republicans politicized climate change and the democrats did not
00:23:33.000 i'm out i'm out there's nothing else in the report that i'm going to look at i won't even read it i'm not
00:23:41.640 even going to get i'm not even give it the time of day if if they don't come clean at least on that
00:23:49.320 well it seems that mayor bowser in the district of columbia has banned dancing at weddings now without
00:23:58.120 giving you an opinion on what i think of banning dancing at weddings because you all you all have
00:24:03.480 your own opinions and there's nothing i can add to that i would just like to add that when this becomes
00:24:09.720 footloose 2 the movie i don't think you need to change the name of the mayor because could there
00:24:18.760 be a more perfect movie mayor than mayor bowser i mean seriously mayor bowser that has to be the mayor
00:24:30.200 who bans dancing when the footloose 2 movie or is it 3 movie comes out it's just got to be
00:24:36.600 mayor bowser perfect casting so
00:24:43.720 um
00:24:46.200 i would like to suggest that if we could ever have a day when the pandemic is over and i don't know if
00:24:52.360 that's possible because all the states are doing things at their own rates based on infections
00:24:57.400 but i feel as if this pandemic needs an end date don't you even though maybe it never really ends ends
00:25:05.080 because there'll be you know trickling of viruses forever but don't you feel we need a national
00:25:11.960 celebration like really really badly but to do that you're going to need a day and i don't know how you
00:25:18.840 declare it's over at any day but i feel like dancing is the requirement it would be like a national day of
00:25:28.360 hugging and dancing oh maybe that's the name of it a national day of hugging and dancing and you just
00:25:34.760 go outside maybe it's just the vaccinated people maybe it's the people who have immunity or whatever
00:25:40.280 but you just hug and dance your ass off all night long and we just need to get this out of our
00:25:47.880 get it out of our systems don't we
00:25:53.320 andrew just paid a 14.99 protection payment so he's not the guy who gets randomly banned today
00:26:01.400 well that worked will i take payoff sure sure
00:26:06.680 i can be bought he just he just bought me for 14.99 which is weirdly exactly my price
00:26:17.640 if you had paid more than that you would have overpaid because you got it for 14.99
00:26:23.880 um i warned you last year and i'm gonna i'll say this maybe once a month until you're tired of hearing
00:26:31.320 it because i don't know how many times you can say this without people being able to hear it
00:26:37.800 80 000 people a year die in this country just normally
00:26:47.480 thanks eddie um so if you have 8 000 people a day dying and those are mostly the sickly and old
00:26:53.640 people all right because that's who dies and the sickly and old are also being massively vaccinated
00:26:59.480 coincidentally at the same time wouldn't you expect a whole lot of people to die right after getting
00:27:05.320 a vaccination yes there's a hundred percent chance that just from statistical reasons alone
00:27:13.800 a whole bunch of people will die relatively soon after getting a vaccination it's guaranteed
00:27:22.360 the odds require that they can't not happen so when you hear that people and you know all these
00:27:28.680 anecdotal reports of people dying after getting the vaccination maybe some of them are actual
00:27:35.400 complications because we know that happens but if you're being fooled by the the quantity of them
00:27:41.720 just remember that the quantity has to be big okay justin shaw you're safe for today apparently 14.99 is
00:27:51.720 is my is my is my price where i'll i'll save all of you yeah i don't think you're i'm not sure you're spending
00:27:59.480 good money i don't know why anybody's paying money for this alex uh i'll charge 9.99 for banning protection
00:28:11.080 all right good luck for that all right uh peter navarro was on bannon's war room and uh he said
00:28:18.760 something provocative he said that dr fauci is the father of the virus uh and that there's a 99.99
00:28:26.760 percent chance that the virus came out of the wuhan lab now what does it mean when peter navarro says
00:28:34.440 dr fauci is the father of the virus well it can mean anything you want it to mean right which is why
00:28:42.280 it's hard to say it's true or false because it just depends how you define it now my understanding
00:28:49.640 is that fauci had something to do with funding of some things that were you know gain of function
00:28:55.960 related in the lab do i have that right do a fact check on me are those facts right that fauci had
00:29:03.400 something to do with funding at the wuhan lab which knowingly was doing gain of function stuff is that true
00:29:12.280 um yeah as derna says if you don't pay somebody to find something you won't find it but if you do
00:29:22.120 pay them to find it they'll find it whether it's there or not uh thanks josiah is that how you say
00:29:30.200 your name josiah um so here's my take on this if it's true that fauci had something to do with funding
00:29:39.160 at that lab um then i can see why he'd say that he's the father of the virus but it's a little bit
00:29:45.080 of a stretch it's a little bit of a stretch let's call it hyperbole but uh that's as far as i'll go on
00:29:53.560 that um i'm adding to my list of people and groups for whom i have no sympathy are you ready now i believe
00:30:02.200 i'm an empathic i believe i have empathy for lots of people in groups and i believe i have appropriate
00:30:11.960 empathy in the appropriate places but i no longer will have empathy for anybody who resists arrest
00:30:20.760 don't care about them i really don't care about them if you resist arrest and you get killed
00:30:27.240 i don't care about you at all now i feel sorry for the family because the family didn't do anything
00:30:33.960 right and i feel sorry for the police officer who you know has a tough time if they kill anybody
00:30:42.920 uh david 14.98 doesn't get you anything that you can't get anything for that it's 14.99 is the price
00:30:49.160 uh if someone misbehaves again you could ban a random dozen people to encourage the group some
00:30:59.560 kind of group penalty isn't that a war crime if i if i banned too many people because one person was
00:31:06.120 bad all right um so i have no sympathy for resisting arrest i have no sympathy for anyone who dated
00:31:14.520 maryland manson and then was later abused now abuse is a terrible thing so i'm not saying you know
00:31:22.760 that's good i'm saying i just can't generate any empathy at all if you date maryland manson and that goes
00:31:29.880 bad don't say you didn't see it coming please um i'm adding to this uh palestinians um well i would
00:31:40.040 love for their situation to be fixed and i do have empathy for the you know the individual palestinians
00:31:46.280 who are just trying to lead their life in the best way they can but because their leaders are
00:31:52.680 disincentive to find any solutions i i can't generate any empathy i can't because over there is
00:32:02.120 just a power play so i'm just watching people who have power using it if the other group had power they
00:32:08.600 would use it it has nothing to do with ethics or morality or anything it doesn't have anything to
00:32:14.600 do with who owns what or whose god protects anything
00:32:21.160 david well thank you right now you've you've overpaid but at least you're on you're on target
00:32:29.720 all right uh i also don't have and again i have complete respect for the palestinian people
00:32:36.360 who are just trying to lead their life but they're they're also buying into a system that can't work
00:32:43.480 it can't work because israel is too strong it's not going to be defeated by you know the missiles and
00:32:50.360 stuff so if you're pursuing a strategy that can't work i just don't have any sympathy for you
00:32:56.520 and i would also add to this anybody who complains about systemic racism in this specific example
00:33:04.520 and you have to include this part if they don't put the teachers union near the top of their list
00:33:11.480 if you're complaining about systemic racism and you're ignoring the teachers unions as the biggest
00:33:17.160 cause of it well you're not a serious person and i can't i can't take any of your concerns seriously
00:33:22.200 but if you're complaining about systemic racism everywhere and you've correctly identified that
00:33:29.560 the teachers unions are either the number one or certainly among the top uh causes of perpetuating
00:33:35.880 it well then i'm going to listen to everything you say right if you get the one thing right
00:33:41.480 the top priority i'll listen to the i'll listen to all the rest of your arguments because at least you
00:33:48.040 started smart but if you didn't start smart i'm not going to listen to the rest of it either i'm just
00:33:53.640 not um all right so i'll add to this list of people i have no sympathy for as they make themselves
00:34:01.720 known uh i saw an interesting little uh debate on a little corner of uh twitter today trying to figure
00:34:09.320 out if jordan peterson is uh a believer or an atheist
00:34:19.560 bring alex back from last week and ban him again yeah i should have some people just come here to ban
00:34:25.720 move the teachers unions to palestine palestine well i guess that would be one way to play it
00:34:32.040 but anyway um here's why i'm fascinated about the question of jordan peterson's religion
00:34:37.880 number one we're not we're not mind readers 1999 wow i don't know what's happening today but you're
00:34:44.840 all being way too generous and you don't need to do that uh but i appreciate it and here's why i'm
00:34:52.920 fascinated about jordan peterson's because first of all i don't care you know whatever his religious
00:35:00.040 belief is that that's just him but i love the fact that we don't know i really like that
00:35:07.880 i love the fact that we don't know think about how famous he is think about how much he's talked
00:35:13.480 about religion think about how much he's talked about you know the human situation you know zillions
00:35:19.320 of you know hours of programming about the most important things in life and you don't know if he's
00:35:25.640 a believer isn't that interesting now i don't think you could play that better because if he took a
00:35:34.760 position one way or the other it would turn off a whole bunch of people who could benefit from
00:35:40.360 hearing his messages so there's no point to it and i'd love you know privately i would love to hear
00:35:46.600 his opinion on that i feel like i i feel like i know it but that's mind reason mind reading uh allegedly
00:35:54.360 he once referred to himself as a pragmatic christian which is just ambiguous enough that you could read into
00:36:02.280 into that anything you wanted which is also kind of brilliant i almost think i might use that
00:36:08.360 because my own definition of that would be somebody who's accepting
00:36:11.960 you know the principles of how to how to live your life but you know may have a different opinion
00:36:17.320 about the reality underlying reality um but i would like to give you the strangest
00:36:23.880 story you've ever heard in your life relative to this
00:36:26.360 chris you're safe no cancellation for you uh and you're saying that jordan has a good biblical series
00:36:36.040 yeah so this is the weird thing is that i know he talks about religion in a positive sense so that's
00:36:42.600 why it's weird that we don't know what his religion is now i'm in the same camp uh not the same as jordan
00:36:49.640 peterson but i'm in the same camp um of talking uh positively about religion but not being a believer
00:36:57.560 myself so i'm not saying that that's what jordan peterson is this is just me but i have great
00:37:03.160 respect for it because it obviously works makes people happy gives them you know purpose for living
00:37:09.080 works well um and uh here is a story that i'll bet you'll be surprised at i don't know my parents
00:37:22.280 religion now my parents have both passed on but when they were alive i never knew their religious belief
00:37:31.960 belief is that amazing and i always wonder what effect that has had on me now of course i asked
00:37:40.200 but i only got sort of general answers that i couldn't quite make anything of and uh well pascal's
00:37:47.080 wager yeah um but we did go to what was called sunday school it was a methodist church we were you know
00:37:56.360 my siblings and i were indoctrinated into the religious you know uh tradition and my parents
00:38:04.120 would go to you know the christmas sunday thing when when we did our little piece on stage or whatever
00:38:10.280 but i never knew their religious beliefs i don't even know if either one of them believed in god
00:38:16.200 i actually don't and i've often thought that that was an advantage to me because it didn't it didn't
00:38:24.520 give me some programming that i had to overcome to you know look at all my options so i didn't start
00:38:31.800 with a bias i started with that one and when i was 11 years old i asked my mother if i could stop
00:38:38.440 going to church and i gave her my thinking and she said okay and we never talked about it again
00:38:46.120 just think about that 11 years old i had an adult conversation with my mother gave her my reasons
00:38:52.120 about why i wasn't going to continue and i didn't say i would like to not continue doing this i just
00:38:57.880 told her i wasn't by the way there's a little tip in life uh how do you send me snail mail oh please
00:39:07.800 don't joel uh i don't let people send me anything by mail if i can avoid it because my house is full
00:39:13.880 and that's not a joke uh every day i'm taking out truckloads of stuff that doesn't belong in my
00:39:22.200 house truckloads that has just come in from various ways over the years so i i try to discourage
00:39:29.080 everybody to not send me anything that is a package or a physical thing
00:39:35.320 all right um i don't know what i was talking about there so let's talk about something else
00:39:39.480 uh i saw dave chappelle say that uh what did he say he was talking about uh elon musk's appearance
00:39:49.880 on snl and he was saying that you know you can't be woke enough um and you know he was just a little
00:39:57.960 puzzled by elon musk getting some pushback on saturday night live um but then he said this i guess he said
00:40:05.000 this on a joe rogan show chappelle did he said quote i'm torn because i like a warrior for a good cause
00:40:13.160 but i'm really into tactics he added i'm into tactics now didn't you always have this feeling
00:40:23.000 that dave chappelle was operating at a higher level than just most people
00:40:28.120 have you if you listen to his comedy you come away thinking well that wasn't just a comedian
00:40:35.960 it was like a philosopher in there somewhere like an important one not not a casual philosopher but
00:40:43.320 a substantial one i'm seeing nose let me look at your comments for a while uh he absolutely is i see some
00:40:51.960 nose uh too much coke somebody says yes and no not really so people are all over the board on him
00:41:00.200 all right but here's what i'd like to add i've always said that the moment the black american community
00:41:07.480 turns from victimhood to strategy they're just going to rule everything all right the black
00:41:15.720 the black the black american public is spring-loaded for some gains that are enormous like i feel as if
00:41:25.080 that community is going to go on a run for the next 20 or 30 years in which it's just going to be
00:41:32.920 breathtaking and i think that that change is is when the chappelle like uh let's call him a reluctant
00:41:42.680 leader because i don't feel like he's going out of his way to be a leader i feel like he just says
00:41:48.520 things that are smart and then people if they're smart enough will you know be influenced by it as as
00:41:55.160 soon as the black community focuses on tactics and and and systems and strategy they're going to realize that
00:42:03.800 they have all the advantages if they use strategy if they try to do things the same way every generic white
00:42:09.720 person does probably systemic racism is going to be an issue if they try to find their advantages
00:42:17.160 and press their advantages and stay away from the places where they're disadvantaged
00:42:23.640 there's going to be some big changes ahead
00:42:27.000 uh employers are sending workers back to the office as early as june
00:42:31.960 not being forced to get the vaccination what should i do tim says what should you do good question
00:42:37.320 let's say your employer says you have to go back to work and then also says you don't have to get the
00:42:43.720 vaccination let's say you haven't what are you going to do well it's a free country one one choice is to
00:42:51.960 find a new employer the other choice and this dovetails exactly into what i was going to tell you
00:42:57.880 would you like to hear how to say no in a way that works you know you do right
00:43:07.160 saying no to things when you don't have the power and somebody else does have the power it's really
00:43:13.720 hard for people to get right because if you're whiny and complainy you might get what you want but then
00:43:20.360 you're the whiny complainy person so you kind of broke even you didn't you got what you wanted but now
00:43:25.560 you're a whiny person not so great so how can you say no to something when somebody has the power and
00:43:33.160 you don't let's say a boss and you want to come off with a good reputation let me tell you how you
00:43:42.200 want to say it in a way that removes the choice or removes the option or removes the argument
00:43:51.560 all right let me so let me give you this example of the uh the boss says you need to come to the
00:43:58.840 office in june and everybody will come to the office and let's say that you decided that that's no good
00:44:04.600 for you for whatever reason so you have your own reasons and you need to say no to this but you're
00:44:10.440 worried about getting fired how do you do it well the first thing you do want don't want to do is give
00:44:16.680 reasons if doesn't that sound weird if you give reasons your boss will argue with the reasons
00:44:27.160 and then you're just the complainy person who didn't get anything never give reasons if you want your
00:44:33.640 no to stick does that make sense because that's the opposite of common sense right common sense says
00:44:40.520 if i'm going to turn somebody down i got to give them reasons right up front nope no if you give
00:44:47.240 reasons you are signaling weakness reasons signal weakness and people will sense it and then just
00:44:55.480 tell you what to do here's how to do it without reasons uh scott you need to come into the office
00:45:03.640 uh that everybody needs to come into the office um june 1st here's scott well i won't be doing that
00:45:12.600 so i want to talk about what the options are and how we can handle that
00:45:18.120 let me say it again um scott you have to come into the office everybody does no exceptions
00:45:24.840 i won't be doing that so let's talk about you know what happens then and what my options are
00:45:29.240 did you hear a reason no there was no reason was i a jerk no i didn't say it with any attitude
00:45:39.640 whatsoever i just said what's going to happen i took the decision away from my boss i took the
00:45:48.600 decision away from my boss i just said that's not happening now if i said that's not happening
00:45:55.240 well then i get fired because i'm just a jerk no that's not happening that's not happening you're
00:46:02.920 a jerk you're fired but i didn't say it that way scott you've got to come into the office
00:46:08.680 that's not going to happen so let's could we have a meeting and talk about you know what my options are
00:46:15.800 and then when you say can we talk about what my options are do you see what you've done
00:46:20.200 you made your boss your problem solver so instead of you saying this is what i'm going to do which
00:46:27.480 would be obnoxious and maybe you get fired you say i'll tell you what's not going to happen
00:46:33.240 is me going into the office and now i'm going to ask you to work with me to figure out how this is going
00:46:38.520 to work see the difference you can say no to your superiors really easily now if you say to me
00:46:48.840 scott i don't think you've ever tried that because i think you get fired no i have tried that i have
00:46:54.920 tried exactly this in in new ruleable situations and it works 100 of the time not once in my life
00:47:04.680 has a no been challenged or turned over when i just state it like a fact and then i make people think
00:47:11.880 past it to what are we going to do now the decisions made right now keep this in mind when
00:47:19.880 your boss says you know scott you're going to go into the office i'm the only one who decides if i'm
00:47:26.200 going to the office but in order to argue it i also have to be legitimately ready to leave if you're not
00:47:34.120 legitimately ready to leave well then maybe you just have to do what you got to do and go to the office
00:47:40.520 but it helps to be legitimately ready to leave and then you just say well that's not going to happen
00:47:45.640 so let's talk about what we can do about it somebody says you got to know your boss and i would say nope
00:47:53.160 i disagree the the method i just gave you should be universally applicable no matter who your boss is
00:48:00.920 and if your boss fires you for saying it the way i just said it good you don't want to work for that boss
00:48:07.960 you do not want to work for that boss and i would argue i would argue also that if you turn down your
00:48:14.920 boss the way i just recommended completely professionally you just eliminated the option
00:48:21.320 well that's not going to happen you made them think past the sale as to what is a practical way to deal
00:48:26.760 with it you're first in line for a promotion did you hear that saying no to your boss
00:48:34.120 but doing it expertly puts you first in line for a promotion it doesn't put you first in line to
00:48:42.040 get fired if you can say no better than anybody else can say no around you you'll be the boss
00:48:51.560 nathan says uh cildini says to give people reasons to persuade them in the past you have agreed with this
00:48:57.720 i was oh reasons to persuade them i'm not sure i quite understand the question you may be thinking
00:49:03.880 about pacing and leading where you're agreeing with people until you lead them to a new opinion
00:49:09.320 maybe not um ideally you should have reasons but in a question but in a situation where your no
00:49:17.320 is firm you don't need them um and when people try to bring me reasons i'll say look i've made i've
00:49:26.360 already made my decision now we're talking about your decision did you hear that yeah when somebody
00:49:33.800 starts questioning you you say well i've made my decision all this left is for you to make your decision
00:49:40.520 it's very professional it's not obnoxious you're just you're just firm and you're confident that's all
00:49:49.880 all right um i saw a brian stelter uh pushing a real good uh persuasion so i'm gonna you know give
00:49:57.160 credit where credit is due persuasion wise so as you know brian stelter likes to be the uh he's sort
00:50:04.360 of the voice of criticizing fox news along with jim acosta i guess and over at fox news there are a
00:50:11.800 few people who criticize him back you know tucker greg gotfeld etc so so he's sort of there you know
00:50:19.800 the the punching bag for the right but also the the voice of the left criticizing fox and he came up
00:50:25.880 with this while he's promoting he didn't come up with it uh the idea that you could get foxitis
00:50:31.320 and i guess one of the lawyers for somebody who was part of the capital the capital protest said
00:50:37.960 that his client was brainwashed by fox news and he had a bad case of foxitis and that's what caused
00:50:44.520 him to be part of the protest uh and brian stelter picked up on that and uh says that people who watch
00:50:53.880 fox are getting foxitis so it's really good it's really good persuasion because you know as as good
00:51:05.480 as uh trump derangement syndrome was and i think that was good persuasion too because it talked about
00:51:11.320 a real thing that you felt etc i think if he keeps pushing this this foxitis that could become a thing
00:51:18.440 so you know good job on persuasion there um and then he had this this little uh take he said instead
00:51:27.160 of pushing for herd immunity where you've got say 70 of the public either has been infected or
00:51:33.400 vaccinated he said we should be pushing for nerd immunity which is informing people about the facts
00:51:42.600 well enough that they on their own go get the vaccinations according to brian nerd immunity not
00:51:49.320 bad so i would just like to say that brian stelter has improved his persuasion game impressively i wonder why
00:51:59.720 um here's my big question on persuasion so arguably depending on what you feel about um vaccinations
00:52:11.480 so i'll just put arguably before this because you will argue with me so just understand i know you have
00:52:16.600 an argument arguably the most useful thing i could do is persuade people to get vaccinated
00:52:27.400 in the comments go because i know where this is going because it might be the most unethical thing i could do
00:52:34.360 and i'm a little bit torn maybe you've noticed because i'm not i'm not hammering on one side or the other
00:52:43.160 a little bit torn and my problem is this um you know with great power comes great responsibility
00:52:50.520 and i'm trying to square my responsibility with this topic what's my responsibility let let's take
00:53:02.440 take my assumption you don't have to agree with it but let's just work with it here take my assumption
00:53:07.000 that i believe because i'm professionally trained in persuasion i believe that if i did a full you know a
00:53:15.320 full uh persuasive um campaign to help people get vaccinated i think i can make a dent you know i
00:53:23.960 don't know how many people would be influenced but maybe thousands should make a difference would save
00:53:28.760 lives allegedly so do i have a bigger ethical um requirement to persuade people to get the vaccinations
00:53:39.320 or would that be the height of unethical behavior because everything has a risk and then i would be
00:53:47.240 encouraging people to do something medical when i'm not a doctor
00:53:51.320 give me some advice here give me some advice what what is the most responsible thing i could do
00:54:01.720 now i'll tell you where i landed where i landed was telling you what i do and then also explaining in
00:54:07.560 detail the the framework of how i reasoned the odds and how i got there all right i think the most
00:54:15.640 ethical thing i can do is just tell you how i handled it would you agree because if i go beyond that
00:54:23.000 i know i can convince people to get the vaccination who would not have done it on their own i know i can
00:54:30.440 let me ask you this stay out of it i'm saying and and i think that your instinct might be right let me
00:54:36.280 ask you this in the comments and watch this watch this how many people in the comments have changed their
00:54:43.400 decision to get the vaccination because of something i did or said it'll take a moment for the comments
00:54:51.320 to catch up but just watch in the comments how many people have already and this scares me a little
00:54:57.560 bit because i didn't oh there's a yes um so how many people change their opinion because of something i
00:55:05.960 said or did now most of you should be a now so even if i were persuasive i would expect 90 no no no no no
00:55:17.800 no no no no so so far it's a solid wall of kind of sorta uh yes somebody said yes um slightly yes
00:55:28.440 most of these are no so when i read out the yeses these are the exceptions uh hard yes
00:55:35.880 um no no no no all the rest are no so far i'll tell you if i see any more yeses come by
00:55:40.920 kind of sorta you put i put somebody on the fence slightly not me um
00:55:49.000 hell no nah nah nah yes you persuaded me all right so my estimate was 90 would not be persuaded
00:55:56.840 um but you saw in the comments that a number of people were persuaded now you can tell
00:56:07.640 that if i hit this hard there would be more of you because i could i'm just choosing not to and
00:56:16.840 i feel like i'm going to stick where i am for now unless i hear a better argument for why i should not
00:56:21.640 it's it's a heck of a thing to put on me because this is the it's the height of responsibility isn't
00:56:28.760 it if i know that i could make more people get vaccinated and i know that the medical scientific
00:56:34.520 community is is really unified saying you should still all right let's see what a 25 comment says
00:56:44.040 uh responsible is to explain how you reach the decision and to educate people on risk management
00:56:49.640 calculation which is what i tried to do uh which should assist them and you did that exactly well
00:56:55.240 thank you because that that's that's the balance i was trying to hit all right so i'm gonna read some
00:57:00.600 comments now and questions um that came to me through the locals platforms that's the subscription
00:57:07.880 platform in which uh um you can subscribe to see my stuff that you can't see publicly
00:57:13.800 so i said i'd answer some questions live uh from there and i'm looking at those now um
00:57:22.200 let's see uh when is quitting okay uh when is quitting okay that's a good question it depends
00:57:30.920 if you're talking about business or personal in your personal life arguing doesn't buy you much
00:57:36.920 so quitting soon on the arguing probably makes sense in a business sense if you're trying to
00:57:43.400 start a business or whatever um i would look for whether people are responding physically to the
00:57:51.000 thing you're doing or making so i've used this the standard before if people look at let's say your
00:57:57.080 prototype or whatever and they say oh i want to take this and modify it and i need three of these to give
00:58:03.480 give to my friends and stuff if they're physically doing stuff with your product and modifying it
00:58:08.280 and they're they're putting it together in novel ways and stuff you probably have something but if
00:58:13.320 they're just talking about it and say oh that's good you probably have nothing so i would look for
00:58:18.360 the physical activity to tell you have something in the dilbert uh case people were taking my comics
00:58:24.840 and making their own books out of them so when i decided to make my own book i didn't have to wonder
00:58:30.520 if people would buy it because they were making their own books just because they didn't have one to buy
00:58:35.480 uh would i consider interviewing bishop robert baron uh no so i might start interviewing some people
00:58:46.840 who have books i've got a few lined up uh but other than authors i'm probably not going to do generic people
00:58:57.000 would you mind explaining how teaching people to think clearly is a better strategy for a long-term
00:59:01.320 health of the country versus you know winning a partisan debate well um i think i think that should
00:59:08.200 be clear right teaching people how to think clearly but the biggest part of that is teaching them that
00:59:14.120 they can't you can't teach people to think clearly if they think they already can they're not going to
00:59:20.200 give you the time of day so that's why i wrote loser think loser think behind me on the shelf so loser
00:59:26.120 think is that book to try to teach people what they're doing wrong and at the same time teach
00:59:31.640 them how to do it right um so other than writing books and talking about it all the time and trying
00:59:37.800 to get it into the school curriculum i don't know what you could do uh nicholas says is sort of it's
00:59:44.600 going to make a decision soon on whether or not to run for governor well i think everybody has to decide
00:59:50.840 soon uh ish um but he might he might wait around and see if his poll numbers go up by themselves that
00:59:59.240 might be a good play because you don't want to you know go all in on something if you're polling at
01:00:04.680 three percent but imagine if the next poll comes out and now that three percent got people talking about
01:00:10.920 him what would happen if the next poll he's at five percent without doing any campaigning
01:00:16.440 and then it starts it starts to look like he's almost being drafted at that point and i'll say
01:00:24.200 it again i can't even imagine a better governor honestly i think he would be the best governor we
01:00:29.160 ever had um have you ever tried a beard or a mustache now i can't really i can't really grow that stuff
01:00:38.360 uh what is the best way to detect energy suckers they suck your energy that's how if somebody's sucking
01:00:46.280 your energy you have detected them i mean if you can't tell that they're sucking your energy then
01:00:50.680 they're not um martha says is creativity a daily habit uh for you or do you engage certain activities
01:01:01.240 consistently that fuel your activity yes it is a system and it's a daily habit and the habit is that
01:01:09.000 you can't you creativity is not something you do it's something you remove obstacles from
01:01:17.640 which is the biggest mental reframing of it so i i can't just sit there and be creative
01:01:26.360 great so creating is not something that you make happen it's something that you can prevent from
01:01:34.680 happening or you could not prevent it from happening so i spend a lot of work not preventing
01:01:41.240 it so let me give you an example if i don't get enough sleep i can't be creative creativity is one
01:01:48.360 of those things that just doesn't work when you're tired you can do a lot of physical things when you're
01:01:53.240 still tired you can power through it but creativity stops when you're a little extra tired you just can't
01:02:00.200 do any of it so i work on diet exercise fitness and that's my creativity if i get diet exercise and
01:02:11.560 and sleep right then i've removed the obstacles that would have stopped my creativity now if you're not
01:02:20.040 a creative person you're just not you know i can't jump 42 inches in a leap and i never will some of
01:02:29.560 you will never be able to you know solve a rubik's cube some of you will right so you have to have
01:02:36.840 some creativity naturally uh but it's mostly about removing the obstacles likewise when i work i make
01:02:43.320 sure that my feet are flat on the ground i've got the right amount of light i've eaten i've used the
01:02:49.160 restroom i've taken i've cleared my mind so creativity is about negative space it's about getting rid of all
01:02:56.680 the things that would prevent it you don't actively create create it except by experience one of the
01:03:03.880 ways that you fuel it is by just exposing yourself to enough different um stimulations that that creativity
01:03:13.240 just happens um i listed diet exercise and learning as the secrets to happiness what about independence
01:03:22.680 people who are dependent on parents children etc their employees the state doesn't limit their
01:03:26.600 happiness yes in my book how to fill almost everything is still win big i talk about how
01:03:33.160 schedule flexibility is a requirement for real happiness because if you can't do the things you
01:03:40.280 want to do when you want to do them you're never going to be happy just the fact that you could do
01:03:45.880 everything you want but you could never do it at the right time to do those things it just wouldn't
01:03:50.520 work so definitely you need freedom but when you're younger it's hard to get because you usually have a
01:03:57.880 boss so you should work toward not having a boss so you can free up your schedule um as far as having
01:04:05.320 you know kids and a family that's more of a personal decision some people need it some people don't
01:04:12.680 but it's definitely gonna cut into your happiness i don't know anybody the thing with having kids
01:04:21.320 is you're glad you did it but you're unhappy most of the time right and so each minute of the day
01:04:28.120 might be unhappy because you're frustrated with you know the extra work of having kids or whatever
01:04:32.760 but if somebody said at the end of the night when you're kicking back are you happy they'd say oh yeah
01:04:39.080 i mean i wouldn't have it any other way so it's that weird situation where you're unhappy every
01:04:44.200 minute to be happy in general it's weird that that works what are good directions or majors for college
01:04:53.000 i have no clue what to do if you have any technical inclinations uh go for programming and technical
01:05:00.120 stuff that will never be wrong uh and if you don't have technical skills i would go for either a trade
01:05:06.280 or communication something in communication if so if you don't have a specific career goal in mind
01:05:14.120 that you can aim at it's either communication and writing and that stuff or technology whichever one
01:05:21.640 you have a aptitude for um have i read the frenguy rules of acquisition matt nobody has ever asked me that
01:05:30.440 before i have not um how do i feel about people clipping my show and posting snippets mixed mixed
01:05:41.000 feeling about that it depends who's doing it because lots of times a clip will be a root bar meaning that
01:05:48.360 if you take it out of context it could be misleading but on the other hand if people were not clipping my
01:05:55.000 show i wouldn't have anything worth doing remember i told you that if people are not doing something
01:06:01.400 physical with your product you don't have a product and in this case people do take my show they take the
01:06:09.320 they take their own effort to figure out how to make a clip of it and then they repost it
01:06:16.520 that's everything you want if somebody is modifying your product and redistributing it
01:06:22.200 in this case you know it's more promotional than stealing uh that's good that's everything you want
01:06:32.520 if we want to give scott back to the hour-long uh show we just need to super chat
01:06:37.800 two hundred dollars well um i don't know how affected i am by the super chat funding but i probably am
01:06:45.720 actually because i'm like an unlike a dog who gets treats it doesn't matter how big the treat is
01:06:50.840 here's a little trick i learned in dog training school it's one of the most useful things you'll
01:06:55.640 ever hear in your life that dogs can't do fractions and you're saying to yourself what how is that
01:07:02.600 relevant well here's how it's relevant if you're training a dog you have to give the dog a treat
01:07:07.800 or otherwise it's really hard to train them but the dog can't tell the difference between a big treat
01:07:14.120 and a tiny one like just a crumb your dog will work just as hard for the crumb as for a big treat
01:07:21.800 so the dog can't do fractions so you gave it 10 of the treat it's like yay yay or if you give it 100
01:07:28.440 it's still yay yay no difference and this is why i feel myself actually being influenced by the the super
01:07:37.960 chat gifts even though they're not going to change my lifestyle but i'm i'm just like the dog who can't
01:07:43.480 do fractions every every i swear to god every time i see one come through it makes me happy even though
01:07:50.760 like the dog i should know the difference between fractions but i don't salivate now damn it that's
01:07:59.400 working i'm salivating all right um see if i got somebody uh steve says are you thinking about retiring uh
01:08:08.840 yes um i've always been thinking about it forever but cartooning i don't want to do forever but i only
01:08:16.200 want to get out of it if getting out is better than staying in right now i don't have a plan that would look
01:08:22.040 like that because i don't want dilber to die after i leave uh but i don't want it to go forward
01:08:29.000 incompetently and i don't know how to solve that right now uh but i won't be retiring from doing
01:08:36.040 this in fact if i retired from comics it would do it would be so i could do this better basically
01:08:42.280 so i enjoy this more and it requires less less of anything that i consider work it's still work but i
01:08:48.840 enjoy it so it doesn't feel like it somebody uh says i have great ideas but i can't draw
01:08:56.440 that wouldn't stop you if you have great ideas that you can write and make them funny thank you john
01:09:04.760 do it you would be amazed how low the quality of the artwork can be and still be commercially
01:09:11.880 successful so long as the writing is good if you get the writing good you the cartooning is easy
01:09:18.040 um what if maryland manson is a master persuader well i suppose it must be persuasive in some way
01:09:29.160 i think you could uh you could be sure of that
01:09:35.800 uh dilbert reminds you of a 12 ounce mouse okay i think that's the last question for today
01:09:41.080 okay and i will talk to you tomorrow
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