Episode 1381 Scott Adams： Hamas Versus Israel Persuasion War, California Versus Florida, Lightfoot Versus White People
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In this episode of Coffee with Scott Adams, the host talks about the disappearance of a key piece of evidence in the Arizona election audit, and why you should never trust anything you hear about something you hear on the internet. Plus, how to tell when your product is a hit with the masses.
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Hey everybody, come on in. It's time for Coffee with Scott Adams.
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And let me tell you, my printer is working perfectly today.
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And if that isn't a good sign of good things ahead, I don't know what is. I really don't know.
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And if you'd like today to be amazing, all you have to do is participate in the simultaneous sip that's coming up.
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And all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tank of chalice, a canteen jug, a flask, a vessel of any kind, fill it with your favorite liquid.
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It's called the simultaneous sip and watch it go.
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Now, I saw in the comments that somebody is doing the simultaneous sip from a train.
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You have to watch out for that because, as Einstein warned, there is no preferred frame for the simultaneous sip.
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Hey, Scott, why is the volume so low on your podcast, but other people have higher volume?
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Well, I just did some research, and it turns out that everybody who uses an iPad has the same problem.
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So, there's something about the iPad that doesn't do volume recording correctly,
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but reportedly, the iPhone does not have that issue.
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So, as an experiment, I might do an iPhone recording and just see if the audio is any different.
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The problem is, I don't want to do these on my iPhone because I can't see your comments.
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But I could use an external screen, so I might have a workaround, maybe.
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Do you remember the news that in the Arizona election audit,
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you had heard that there was some big database that had been deleted.
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And if that's true, well, then there's some shenanigans.
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when you hear any initial news come out of an audit?
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Just have a little recording running in your head.
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Now, at the end of the audit, presumably, there will be some claims or not.
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But if there are some claims, there will be ones that other people need to verify, etc.
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But anything you hear before the end, when things have really been nailed down
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and they've got a solid opinion, everything you hear until then, probably bullshit.
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I'm not saying the audience won't find anything.
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I'm just saying that anything you hear early, it's just not likely to be true.
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So, I don't recall if I called BS on this when I first heard it.
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Can somebody remind me how I reported this the first time?
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I've got that selective memory thing going on right now.
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Did I say in public that I wasn't so sure that was true?
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Or did I just report it as something that's being claimed?
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I couldn't remember if I had called BS on this before we knew it was BS.
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Well, let me claim that as an accomplishment of sorts.
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Um, do you know how to tell when something that you've created is really good and people
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will care about it and buy it or whatever versus creating something that people might
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And I have a rule for that that I use quite a bit and it works every time as far as I
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If somebody takes your product, whether it's a writing product or a physical product, whatever,
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and they, they, they use it, um, in a way that makes them physically act in some way in
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which, in, in which they're trying to promote it or extend it or improve upon it, then you
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If people take your product and modify it, you really have something.
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It's only when they don't care that you're done, right?
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And I've never seen more activity since really the Dilbert comic came out.
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There was a lot of activity around that, but when my book Had It Failed Almost Everything
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and Still Win Big came out in 2013, it was a success, a commercial success, but it didn't
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But now, what, eight years later, um, I just recorded the audio version in my own voice for
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the first time, the prior audio version was a voice actor, and part of the theme of that
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book was that I couldn't speak for a few years.
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I had a speaking problem, so I didn't record the audio book, and that's actually a theme
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that goes through the book itself, uh, in a meta kind of a way, um, but now it's in my
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voice because I can, and so that's available now, anybody who wants to hear that book in
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Um, this morning, there was a, uh, tweet thread that went around taking something from
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That was just, you know, one part of the book, and turned into a, uh, a summarized tweet thread.
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Now, do you know how many times that's happened?
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Not just that part of the book, but different parts of the book, people are picking out and
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In other words, they're, they're taking the product and modifying it and extending it.
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Now, you may be less aware that there are other best-selling books, other, other fairly large
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media things happening that are really based on that book.
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It's either based on the systems versus goals part of the book, which I think changed the
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And the talent stack part of the book, which I think changed education.
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Now, the number of people who know about those two things, talent stacks and systems versus
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Um, it would be hard to find a, an educated person.
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Let's say somebody who works in the business world or even academics, I think, who were not
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Uh, and that's how you know you have something when people are modifying it.
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Um, have you heard the story about Nicole Hannah-Jones?
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She was the author of the 1619 Project, uh, Pulitzer Prize winning writer for the New York
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And she was up for tenure at the University of North Carolina.
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But after, uh, I guess there was some, probably some complaints or pushback from conservatives,
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I'm guessing, uh, and she was not approved for tenure, which apparently is unusual.
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And it was based on, it looks like, based on her work on the 1619 Project.
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I might be wrong about that, but that seems to be the implication.
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Now, the left is saying this is obviously racism, and it's only, the college caved because there
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was too much, uh, activity on the right, you know, protest or whatever.
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And I think the right is saying something like this.
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So, how is that cancel culture thing working out for you?
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I feel like every conservative is saying something like that out loud or in their minds.
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Got what, got exactly what you wanted, didn't you?
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That the mob can fire you from your job because the mob doesn't like you?
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You know, if you pay for something and you get exactly what you paid for, can you complain?
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So, I've told you before that the one way to destroy something you don't like is to adopt it fully.
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If you adopt fully a bad idea, then the badness of the idea becomes more obvious.
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It's only when you fight against it that it can stay there as strong as it was originally.
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But the more you see people on the left canceling themselves or, in this case, maybe canceled by the activities of people on the right,
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you say to yourself, is this the world you want to live in?
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Do you want to live in this world where the mob can decide if you get hired or fired?
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You know, it does feel unfair to Nicole Hannah-Jones.
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I think this is unfair because people seem to be quite united in saying that she's qualified in general,
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has done a lot of good work, highly educated, successful, Pulitzer Prize winning.
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But the 1619 Project was a little bit controversial, if I can say that.
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So, should you get denied tenure for the one thing you did that was provocative?
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The funniest, most ridiculous story of the day is Lori Lightfoot, who's mayor in Chicago,
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has said that she's only going to accept one-on-one interviews from black or brown journalists.
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Because she noticed that there are way too many white journalists.
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And so, to even things out, she'll only take one-on-one interviews from black or brown journalists.
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Now, a lot of you laughed at me when I said I was starting to identify as black.
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You know, you can't fault people for using the rules if you're the one who came up with the rules.
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It's the one who comes up with the rules who has to be responsible.
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And the rules are that you can identify as what you feel closest to.
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Because I have experiences which are similar enough.
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And I have sort of an affection for that group that I identify with.
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I spend a lot of my efforts and work trying to figure out how to make the black community more successful.
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So, apparently, I would be able to get an interview with Lori Lightfoot.
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Now, I do some writing on the topics of politics.
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And I wondered what would happen if I asked for an interview.
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Because I feel that's what the conservatives get in trouble for all the time.
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Mocking people for identifying in ways that other people don't feel are legitimate.
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It doesn't really matter if other people don't think it's legitimate.
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The whole point of it is you get to do it yourself.
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Now, if other people get to define me, that's a different set of rules.
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So, I'm going to play by the real rules, the ones that actually are here,
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And if I asked her for an interview, what would she do?
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But the funniest response to this was from Kim Klasik.
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Who pointed out that Lori Lightfoot is married to a white woman.
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And Kim Klasik was wondering in a tweet if Lori Lightfoot still allows one-on-one meetings with her own wife
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or if she's trying to get a little fairness in there.
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So, I think I laughed for 10 minutes after I saw that.
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I asked this on Twitter with a little Twitter poll.
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How many people think that California is doing better than Florida?
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Because the infection rate has to do with how much you're testing, blah, blah, blah.
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So, when I asked my followers that question, what do you think they said?
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According to 98% of the people who follow me on Twitter and decided to answer that poll.
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If you check the data, would the data confirm that?
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98% of the people who answered that poll seem to be deeply uninformed.
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So, if you look at the history of it, you know, the curves have been reversing each other.
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But at the moment, right now, this week, California is doing better than Florida.
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Because there are twice as many people in California.
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Did you know that the death rate in California was lower?
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Because this is that problem of the silos, right?
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You know, Andres Bekkaus pointed it out to me this morning on Twitter, and I didn't know it.
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And as is being pointed out, can you really compare death rates?
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California has a lot of immigration, which presumably is bringing in a lot of young people.
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Well, I'll say that if they're in the same neighborhood, then you can't, right?
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If they're generally close, then I don't think you can say anything except, oh, they're in
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Because if one of them crashed the economy to get that same result, that would be a mistake,
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How is the California economy compared to the Florida economy?
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How is the California economy compared to the Florida economy?
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The assumption that we all made before I brought this up or before you Google it, probably your
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assumption was that Florida was doing better, right?
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But it turns out that California had a $75 billion surplus in the budget.
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Plus, we got, I don't know, $26 billion from the federal government.
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California is $100 billion ahead during the pandemic.
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Well, the reason is that rich people were always taxed at a high rate in California, and rich
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But that much surplus certainly suggests that the economy did all right, because the people
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who were out of work got some kind of government and state help and seemed to be at least surviving
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I'm not hearing of people not getting COVID health care that needed it.
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And if you think that, if your current thinking is that Florida just wiped the table with California,
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Now, I think there'll be a lot more analysis of this.
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You'll have things such as number of businesses that closed.
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I don't know how that matches up, you know, per, let's say, per thousand or whatever.
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And there may be a whole bunch of other things we can measure that have not yet been measured.
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But at the moment, I would say that Florida was more permissive, California was less permissive
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in terms of opening up, but they got kind of a similar outcome.
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Now, if you got a similar outcome, but one took more of your freedom away than the other,
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If they had a similar outcome, but one of them took your freedom away, it's not even close.
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Because we do put enough value on freedom, and should, that if you can get that result
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without taking away people's freedom, you're the winner.
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But don't be confused that Florida is just wiping the table in economics and in death rate.
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Maple Bob says, it suggests California doesn't know how to manage its citizens' money, should
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Well, it looks like the governor is going to do just that.
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The governor has said directly, he thinks the money could be better spent by the people,
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but I think it'll end up being more like COVID relief than it will look like tax rebates,
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because I don't think anybody's feeling sorry for the rich people who got richer during the
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So, are you watching the battle between Geraldo and Dan Bongino, usually on Fox News?
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I'm starting to get the feeling that if Dan Bongino and Geraldo were in the same room, it
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So, Geraldo is calling for a ceasefire in the Israel-Palestinian-Hamas situation there.
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And Dan Bongino, of course, is more on the side of supporting Israel's right to defend
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We do know that innocent people are being killed.
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We know that children are dying in this conflict.
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So, it sounds like Geraldo would say it's the United States' fault, because we're giving
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weapons to Israel and supporting them, and that it would be Israel's fault plus the United
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And Dan Bongino, it looks like he would argue that Hamas is bringing it upon themselves.
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You know, there's lots of room for differences of opinions and lots of things, but I would
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like to turn this into the poking the bear analogy.
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Suppose you see a bear that doesn't seem to be too aggressive.
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You're out taking a walk in the forest, and there's just a bear, and the bear looks at
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you, but isn't afraid of you and isn't going to attack you, and it's just eating some bear
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I don't know what they eat, but it's eating some bear food in the forest.
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And you come across the bear, and it doesn't attack you, and you take a stick off a tree,
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break off a stick, and you walk over to the bear, and you poke it with a stick.
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And then you take your stick again, poke it again.
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and you take your stick, and you poke it again.
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And it's certainly not, I wouldn't say that the killing somebody is equal to poking them
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So wouldn't you say it was sort of the bear murdered the stick guy?
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Because the bear did the murdering, and that's not even close to being poked with a stick a few times.
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If you poke a bear, and the bear kills you, it's your own fault every time.
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Well, I think that fairness has nothing to do with anything.
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This is just, Israel is just pursuing its strategic self-interest, which they have every right to do.
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And strategically, what would be the good reason to stop their military attacks on Hamas right now?
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Ryan wants me to find some idiot to ban just to make this more entertaining.
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So, yeah, give me one good reason that strategically, all right?
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Now, emotionally and morally, ethically, human-wise, there are lots of good reasons to stop killing innocent people, right?
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From a human perspective, if that's all you were looking at, just, you know, what's the most human thing to do?
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But, of course, it's a complicated world, and nobody's killing anybody for fun.
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They're doing it because there are great forces at work here.
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But what would be any reason that Israel should stop?
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Number one, is there odds, is there a chance that this will escalate into a wider conflict?
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What about the Abraham Accords, the other Arab countries that are or are likely to make peace with Israel in more of a permanent and commercial sense?
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Do you think that they might withdraw from the agreement and maybe even participate in fighting against Israel?
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Don't you think that Israel is having continuous conversations with the Arab countries that are part of the Abraham Accord or might be soon?
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Don't you think they're talking to them every day, saying, are you okay so far?
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And probably they're saying something like, eh, really uncomfortable with this.
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I feel as if Israel, if they had, let's say, private warnings from any of the other Arab countries, that they probably would have already stopped.
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So whatever is happening with these other Arab countries, it's not affecting Israel.
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So I've got a feeling they're either saying, go ahead, or they're at least not complaining.
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Then there's also a risk that it will extend to, let's say, Hezbollah in Lebanon getting more involved.
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Now, my understanding is that Hezbollah has a lot of rockets, as in Hezbollah might have somewhere between 40,000 and 100,000 rockets.
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Some rockets have been coming out of that area toward Israel, but the reporting on that seems to be that that's not Hezbollah.
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It's rather people who are just Palestinian supporters with what is called artisanal rockets.
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Because this golden age hasn't gotten to me yet.
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I don't know what state you're in if you lost your job and your apartment, but everywhere that I see, there's help wanted adds up.
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All right, so Hamas, let's say if Hezbollah gets involved in the conflict between Israel and Hamas,
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it doesn't feel like they're itching to do that, does it?
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Because if Hezbollah wanted to get involved in a big way, they feel like it would happen already, right?
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Like why would they wait much longer before they did it?
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I feel like they would have been in there kind of early, and it seems they obviously don't want that.
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Because Hezbollah would be quite degraded by Israel if they tried, and it doesn't look like it's going to happen, frankly.
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And I would also think that that would put more pressure on Iran.
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It would kill any kind of a nuclear deal Iran wants.
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So I don't see Hezbollah being a problem, at least without lots of warning.
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I don't see the other Arab countries pulling out of the Abraham Accords.
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Again, unless there's lots of warning, then Israel could just stop if the warnings were greater than the benefit they were getting.
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So to me, it doesn't make any sense that Israel would stop, which of course has nothing to do with anybody's empathy about innocent people and children dying.
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But I think you just have to look at this as a strategic decision by Israel, and clearly the right one, clearly the right decision.
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I think Hamas is killing their own children for political gain.
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And if you're dealing with a regime that will kill its own children effectively by drawing fire in the place their children are,
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I don't know how much empathy you can give them.
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Because certainly you can have full empathy for the children.
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But in terms of the country, they're allowing this situation to exist, and the people there do have the power.
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I mean, if enough people there wanted this to change, they could.
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So, and this is not to say that the Palestinians have no legitimate beef.
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The Palestinians, they've got plenty to complain about.
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It's not like they have nothing to complain about.
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But I would personally feel quite willing to listen to all of their complaints if they weren't doing it this way.
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You know, if the complaints were just brought up as a good argument,
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and they made the case for it being some kind of apartheid-like situation,
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it's not apartheid, but if it has any elements that you could say look like that,
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But as long as they're essentially putting their own children into a death zone,
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I just don't feel like I have to listen to them.
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And the best thing that Israel has going for it is that the visuals work best for Israel.
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So, I think we've all seen at this point some photos of casualties.
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how many of you have watched either video or seen photos of horrible casualties in Gaza?
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Honestly, that many of you who are watching this podcast live
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have not seen any photo or video of casualties in Gaza.
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I literally was just looking at some, you know, right before I got on.
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One is that the media doesn't seem to be focusing on it.
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But I've noticed that the media doesn't focus on death and destruction and victims nearly as much as it used to.
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Can anybody confirm that from your own experience?
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Does it seem to you that the media doesn't show bloody bodies nearly as much as they used to when I was a kid?
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And maybe that's just a decision they don't want to turn off their customers or something.
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But compare the the lack of attention to the victims to how many videos.
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How many of you in the comments, how many of you saw videos of the or pictures of the missiles coming into Israel?
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How many of you saw at least some video or pictures of the rocket attacks on Israel?
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If I've told you a million times, visual persuasion is the one that matters.
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But if you're thousands of miles away in another country, you don't have an immediate fear.
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You might be afraid for friends or whatever in Israel, but it's not an immediate personal fear.
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Then the visual element is going to be the most persuasive.
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And Israel, either by luck or design, I'm guessing design, but it could be luck, has the visual advantage.
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Tons of pictures of rockets being launched, which scares you.
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If you look at that many rockets being launched into a different city, do you have any way of not putting yourself in the picture and imagining living in a city where you look up and there are thousands of rockets?
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Maybe not at your city, maybe not at your city, but at your country, thousands of rockets coming your way as civilian sites?
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Now, of course, they also took out the AP building, right, in Gaza.
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Did taking out the AP building reduce the number of photos of casualties?
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I'll bet there are fewer photos of casualties because the AP building got bombed, you know, either directly or indirectly.
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Maybe somebody doesn't want to take that picture anymore.
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So let's see if this is true because I got a feeling this one feels a little bit too on the nose too, right?
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And it's the report that AOC owns a Tesla and parked it illegally in front of the Whole Foods that's connected to her luxury apartment building.
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Now, that's a little too on the nose, isn't it?
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Maybe too on the nose would have been a gas-guzzling SUV.
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If she had an SUV gas power, that would have been worse, I suppose.
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Do we all remember that when she got elected, she complained that she didn't even have enough money to get to Washington and get an apartment?
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That the amount that they pay them to be a representative really isn't enough to own a Tesla and have a luxury apartment, is it?
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If your only finances are coming from being in Congress as a representative,
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can you afford a Tesla and to live in a good neighborhood with a Whole Foods attached to it?
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Yeah, my sense of economics is no, that you can't.
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So, at what point do we ask where her money comes from?
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If you have an elected representative who you knew was dirt poor two years ago,
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And she has, I think, a low-end, you know, the low-end Tesla.
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Somebody says she makes $200,000 a year, and it's, I don't know that that's enough.
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So she may be living a little bit above her means and have a loan on the car and making it work.
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But I don't know if she gets paid for speeches.
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Because, you know, two speeches and she's doubled her income.
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$200,000 a year is very small amounts in some cities.
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So, did you know, I only know this because I saw a tweet from Denisha Merriweather,
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Only 15 out of 100 black students read on grade level.
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Only 13 out of 100 black students do math on grade level.
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Only 9 out of 100 black students performed on grade level in civics.
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Now, this comes from the National Assessment of Education Progress.
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So, apparently, there's sort of a dashboard of education statistics.
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So, this is a credible statistic by the people who do these statistics.
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I mean, I already thought it was the biggest problem in the country.
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I mean, I've been talking about this and writing about it and tweeting about it
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and, you know, being active and trying to figure out how to get more school choice,
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primarily to help poor people and, in particular,
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black and brown people who don't have the same advantages.
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And somebody's saying it's worse in some places.
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And the fact that this is, I guess, a credible set of statistics,
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and this isn't our biggest issue in the country,
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how is this not the biggest thing we're talking about?
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So, you know, you wonder why I identify as black
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but they seem to have enough energy that people are working on them, right?
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So you could argue, okay, but climate change is a bigger problem,
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but I would argue that there's so much energy working on it,
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Because it's not as if we don't know how to make a good school, right?
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I'm pretty sure we know how a parent can figure out
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The fact that we're failing on something we know how to do
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and is devastating the black community for generations to come
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And as offended as I have been by this inequity for a long time,
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I've never been quite as offended as I am this morning
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because I've never seen the statistics this stark.
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look, here's the deal, I know you think I'm Hitler,
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we've got lots of talk about racism, systemic racism.
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15 out of 100 black students can't read on grade level.
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You can argue all day long what's unfair, what's fair,
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I mean, you would have to be completely defective
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who tweeted a whole bunch of interesting things about energy
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and the stuff you don't want to put in your pipe,
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to determine that it could be a more efficient battery
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that the hemp cells are significantly better than lithium,
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that you could make a battery and it would last
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and didn't have some problems you didn't anticipate
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that would be way better than normal batteries?
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But I don't quite understand the point of that.