Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1450 Scott Adams： Who is the Most Credible Voice on the Pandemic？ I Help You Sort it Out. And More Headline Fun.

00:00:00.000 morning everybody what an amazing day and today will be one of the best coffees with scott adams

00:00:06.840 ever because we have fun topics don't always sometimes the news does not cooperate but today

00:00:13.260 yeah we got some good stuff it's worth staying around for and all you need to make this a special

00:00:19.020 day well i think you know all you need is a cup of mugger a glass of tenker chelsea stein a canteen

00:00:24.800 jug of flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now

00:00:30.700 for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine to the day the thing that makes everything

00:00:35.440 better it's called a simultaneous sip and it's gonna happen now go

00:00:40.100 i feel every corp bustle in my body coming alive because the corp bustles were a little bit dead

00:00:53.500 until now well here's a here's some mysteries for you things which are unanswered in the news

00:01:04.500 number one whatever happened to antifa did they get everything they wanted now i know they might

00:01:14.960 be doing some stuff in portland but didn't it go from a big deal to nothing and before antifa

00:01:21.940 what happened to occupy wall street and all the concern about the income inequality did that get

00:01:30.920 fixed so there was no no need to protest anymore or is it possible that these are organizations that

00:01:39.640 can be dialed up and dialed down by some hidden hands behind the scenes it feels like they only come

00:01:48.980 out when you sort of need them politically black lives matter did they get everything they need or

00:01:56.140 the police the police are doing a good job now right no more targeting of black motorists and

00:02:03.320 pedestrians i don't think so so it feels as if there's somebody behind the scenes

00:02:13.560 uh

00:02:16.920 somebody just give me a thousand of something that looks like some other kind of money but i i read your

00:02:24.000 comment um so is somebody is there something behind the scenes who can dial up black lives matter to

00:02:31.720 protest or not protest because it feels like it that doesn't mean it's true but it's kind of a mystery

00:02:38.760 where'd they go is it because the news decides

00:02:45.400 everything but the news doesn't make them march so we got some mysteries here that are weirdly not being

00:02:52.680 investigated by the news um and how about the biggest mystery of all why is it that china is not having a

00:03:04.440 problem with the coronavirus is it because they did such a good job with masks and social distancing

00:03:14.120 is that why because if that's why i'd like to see our scientists say yeah definitely mass and social

00:03:23.320 distancing for some reason it works really well in china but it doesn't work in other places

00:03:29.720 or not as well all right i think it works everywhere but not as well what would cause that is it because the

00:03:37.160 chinese are so scared that they stay inside but correct me if i'm wrong the delta variant it's going

00:03:45.560 to get you no matter where you are right how does china escape the delta variable

00:03:53.160 kind of a mystery isn't it uh ian bremer mentioned on twitter that the chinese vaccination is especially

00:04:02.680 not effective against the delta variant because other smaller countries use the chinese vaccination

00:04:08.920 and they're not doing too well with their vaccination so on top of china not not having a problem with the

00:04:16.440 coronavirus they also don't have an effective vaccination now i could understand why israel is doing well

00:04:25.400 they got vaccinated although i think they're having a little setback at the moment

00:04:29.320 so how is it that china has the worst vaccinations but the best outcomes do we have anything like a a press

00:04:41.960 that could look into that because if the answer is they're really really good at social distancing

00:04:48.520 shouldn't we be studying that every day to find out what they did because if they can social distance

00:04:55.560 better we should do whatever they're doing seems to work there so i've got a feeling that there are a lot of

00:05:03.000 mysteries that the news seems to be deeply uninterested in boy do they care about january 6 we'll get to that but

00:05:12.360 first uh i'd like to give you an update on the olympics uh the olympics uh update is that it's still

00:05:21.400 irrelevant and anachronistic and uh sexist that's the update simone biles injured her foot so she's out

00:05:31.320 so the very important sport of you know jumping up and down and and uh hanging from stuff and flipping

00:05:39.720 around sort of a an important human uh activity we won't be able to see the best in the world

00:05:47.400 doing that and that's a tragedy and one more reason why the olympics should be discontinued

00:05:53.800 all right my favorite twitter exchange

00:06:00.200 was uh joe lockhart trying to dunk on jesse waters now here's what jesse water said that was

00:06:07.960 the subject of a tweet um he said uh if you want to stop climate change this is what jesse water said

00:06:18.440 i guess on the show on his show one of his shows if you want to stop climate change you don't fight

00:06:23.800 climate change if it's getting warmer you adapt to it so the point here being that you know humans can

00:06:32.120 adapt to a lot of stuff joe lockhart decides to mock jesse for that by saying jesse will be interviewing

00:06:40.200 a dinosaur today to see how well they adapted to climate change you have to work hard to be this dumb

00:06:48.600 that's right joe lockhart who might be the dumbest person in all of politics just decided to tweet in

00:06:57.640 public that that jesse waters was dumb for saying that humans could adapt to climate changes now in

00:07:06.280 this analysis from joe lockhart i believe he has compared the technologically proud the technology

00:07:13.000 prowess of human beings and their ability to analyze and test and adapt with all their high technology and

00:07:21.880 science he is comparing this to the high-tech science of dinosaurs and saying well if the

00:07:29.960 dinosaurs with all their high-tech abilities couldn't adapt how in the world can you expect a human to do it

00:07:38.280 jesse you fool

00:07:44.760 gotcha i got you jesse

00:07:49.080 if the if the dinosaurs couldn't do it how can a human do it i mean common sense just use your noggin jesse

00:07:58.280 come on come on think a little harder if the dinosaurs couldn't pull it off

00:08:03.480 how can humans i mean really same same thing humans dinosaurs now i think that jesse

00:08:15.400 did make a mistake in his analysis because he's overlooking the dinosaur technology

00:08:24.200 but i've looked into dinosaur technology and if you've ever looked at dinosaur twitter

00:08:28.920 terrible user interface yeah the dinosaurs were terrible at the user experience and if you've

00:08:37.720 ever seen a dinosaur iphone it's really it was hard for them to assemble them because their their

00:08:43.560 hands are just like um you know tree trunks and so they're trying to assemble iphones and really

00:08:51.480 it's more like a flat rock i mean you could call it an iphone but it's a dinosaur iphone it's a flat

00:08:56.840 rock and you could try calling people on it but it's not going to work it's not going to work so

00:09:02.200 dinosaur technology very bad just thought i'd let you know here's a good follow on twitter i like to

00:09:10.600 recommend people who are especially interesting consistently uh raul davis ceo branding expert you

00:09:19.240 can find him at at ceo underscore branding on twitter but uh he tweeted this he said harvard study shows up

00:09:28.840 to 25 percent of people fear needles if vaccine were a gummy vitamin would more people get it now have you

00:09:37.960 heard even one person say to you that they wouldn't get the vaccine because they're afraid of needles in the

00:09:47.720 comments has anybody either made that decision themselves or have you heard anybody oh i see one

00:09:55.000 yes i see a yes yes a friend wow holy cow maybe more than i thought so people would put their fear of the

00:10:08.280 needle above their fear of the coronavirus okay well um three friends and a dad wow interesting now

00:10:21.240 these would be the same people who do get vaccinations right they get the standard vaccinations for being in

00:10:27.960 school and whatever so they must they must have a way to get past the needles if they have to uh but

00:10:34.120 apparently if it's optional they're not going to do it so i love this question so and this is why you

00:10:39.800 should follow uh raul davis because he he gets to the persuasion the persuasion and marketing and

00:10:47.080 branding stuff he's real good at drilling down on that stuff so here's my question

00:10:55.320 um and i'm going to talk about persuasion technique uh you're going to read into this more than i

00:11:01.800 intend i'm not trying to persuade you to get vaccinated remember i think that would be unethical

00:11:09.080 because i could do it i could persuade people to get vaccinated i do have that skill and i do have a

00:11:17.240 voice right so i could i could convince some people if i wanted to do that but i definitely don't want to

00:11:25.320 do that you know i see other people doing it it makes me very uncomfortable i get why they're doing

00:11:30.440 it's they're well-intentioned but it's it just feels so unethical you know i'm not a doctor talk to your

00:11:37.720 doctor i don't know what your risk is anyway i say that too often but i do like to talk about the

00:11:43.480 persuasion you know dimension of how would you just for this the intellectual experiment how would you

00:11:52.920 convince people who are hesitant the first thing you would have to know is that uh people are hesitant

00:12:00.520 for completely different reasons and therefore your persuasion game would have to be crafted for

00:12:06.280 each of those segments and i would say that the people who are um worried about the vaccinations

00:12:14.280 and they're worried about the needle you would need something targeted for them i'll just i'll just

00:12:18.840 throw out an idea because you would have to test a bunch of ideas against people to find out what

00:12:24.200 actually worked so the best you can do as a persuader is usually just try something see what the response

00:12:30.840 is and then try something else if that didn't work so it's usually trial and error kind of a process

00:12:36.680 but here's one thing i would ask how many needles do you think you'll get if you get hospitalized

00:12:41.880 and i don't know what the answer to that is can somebody give me an estimate maybe some of you

00:12:48.200 have been hospitalized for a covet has anybody here been hospitalized for code there would be a few

00:12:54.360 needles right um at least the iv i'm seeing some nope no but but depends if you get the uh the iv i guess

00:13:05.640 yeah um yep no needles uh chance of dying yes but so you would you would multiply your chance of dying

00:13:17.000 times how bad it is to get an expected value and well that didn't make sense but forget about that point

00:13:25.080 all right so because people are irrational you know fear is largely irrational wouldn't you say

00:13:31.880 fear of a physical needle would we all agree that's 100 percent irrational because the needle's never hurt

00:13:39.240 anybody like the actual needle itself the physical needle i believe it's never hurt anybody

00:13:46.360 oh interesting somebody said hypnosis to get people past needle fear you know what let me give you an

00:13:55.240 example of an interesting hypothetical suppose i could come up with a reframing or a way to talk

00:14:03.480 people out of fear of needles would that be ethical because i could do it generically just to make you not

00:14:10.760 afraid of needles should you need one for your own reasons so it would be a a general thing but it would

00:14:17.480 have the effect of getting more people vaccinated wouldn't it uh i'm saying a yes please um yeah

00:14:29.960 okay so

00:14:34.600 um let me let me work on that i've never really put any thought in it but it's entirely possible that

00:14:41.000 a reframe or even some some bit of exercise or something could get you past the needle thing

00:14:48.280 you know i maybe i'll make a video on that because i feel like uh the only way to make that work

00:14:54.200 is to make it a single point video in which somebody who's got that fear and wants to lose it

00:15:00.600 uh can just watch that video and i'll think about that all right um here's a question given that

00:15:09.000 a lot of the reasons for not getting vaccinated would be irrational and i think fear of needles would

00:15:13.960 be an irrational reason other people have rational reasons and i don't deny that but some of them

00:15:19.480 are irrational and here's a question would a monetary incentive work for people who are not yet

00:15:28.520 vaccinated what what's your first reaction to that if i said suppose you just offered money

00:15:35.800 you just said i'll just pay you to get vaccinated how many um well you haven't heard the amount have you

00:15:43.800 i'll say three hundred dollars i'm just going to pick a number three hundred dollars to get

00:15:52.520 vaccinated would anybody take it oh i say a couple of yeses so i'm going to ask only the people who are

00:16:00.760 unvaccinated and maybe we're planning to stay that way if you're unvaccinated and you plan to stay that

00:16:08.600 way would three hundred dollars change your mind anybody right now i'd expect mostly no right i'm

00:16:18.440 saying just a wall of no no amount no amount because you're saying to yourself the reason i didn't do it

00:16:24.440 the reason i didn't do it is because i've got this you know deadly risk possibly don't know how big it

00:16:32.760 is could be tiny but it's an unknown um i see somebody who say yes for a thousand i doubt we could get to a

00:16:41.240 thousand right all right here's here's a little persuasion tip for you all of you are answering rationally

00:16:50.840 i believe which is to say in public if somebody says would you give up your i don't know your your

00:16:57.720 belief about vaccines for 300 almost nobody will say yes to that in public predictably right because

00:17:05.880 nobody's going to sell themselves out for such a small amount but suppose nobody's watching

00:17:14.360 here's one of these things that you realize about human brains that you don't want to be true the

00:17:23.480 next thing i say you don't want to be true but it's true privately if nobody was going to know what you

00:17:32.200 did and you could get 300 for getting vaccinated some percentage of the people would do it they would

00:17:41.560 because money influences everything all the time there's never an exception to it you could take

00:17:46.840 almost any topic and offer almost any amount of money somebody is going to take it every time now

00:17:56.440 it might be a small percentage but remember if you're trying to influence people toward vaccinations

00:18:02.360 if you're trying to influence them everybody's a different reason maybe somebody can be bought

00:18:09.080 one percent maybe but that helps right maybe some have a needle fear maybe you can shave a little of

00:18:17.480 that off you know it's going to be a i think the reason that's going to it's going to be hard to get

00:18:22.680 anybody else vaccinated is there's a whole bunch of different reasons it's not really one reason so

00:18:28.360 you got to hit them all all right um let me ask you this would there be would it be illegal or even

00:18:34.760 impractical for health insurance companies to start charging more for the unvaccinated i'm not

00:18:41.800 recommending it it's not a recommendation just a question would that make a difference suppose your insurance

00:18:50.360 and why wouldn't they really now somebody says it's illegal and i would i would uh point out that the

00:18:57.480 government makes the laws right so let's say it's illegal congress can change that right they're

00:19:05.880 mostly private entities can't they set their prices based on their expenses if they know that there is

00:19:12.680 going to cost them more why not now well some of you could say oh but if you start doing that

00:19:19.000 you have to charge more for people who are overweight you have to charge more for people who don't

00:19:23.480 exercise what about the smokers blah blah the drinkers blah blah here's the difference you can't

00:19:31.320 track that other stuff reliably you can't really track if somebody's drinking you can't really track

00:19:38.200 if they're eating right because that would have to be some kind of self-reporting etc but the vaccination

00:19:45.240 system i believe is all in a central database is it not isn't that something you get a card and you

00:19:51.320 can kind of prove it so it's different than almost anything else because if the insurance companies

00:19:57.240 have access to that database they just match you to the database i think you gave your social security

00:20:04.280 number when you got vaccinated did you do that i know you gave your driver's license right just the

00:20:10.440 driver's license i think so you probably could just match people and just give them you know

00:20:16.520 you know just give them a higher price if they're unvaccinated if that corresponds to your actual

00:20:23.480 expenses now who would complain about that if it was based on data you know if you wanted to be remain

00:20:32.760 unvaccinated but you also believed that private companies can set their prices based on risk

00:20:40.120 would you have a problem with them setting their price based on what they perceive to be the risk

00:20:44.520 if it costs you a little more you still get you still get your preference which is you're

00:20:49.560 unvaccinated but you'd pay for it because it's a little more expensive over overall not for you

00:20:56.520 specifically yeah all right i did a uh i did a very unscientific poll a series of them a competition

00:21:07.000 with uh brackets to see who you trust the most for pandemic opinions because who you trust the

00:21:14.360 most is therefore the person who could persuade the most effectively sort of a hypothesis the hypothesis

00:21:23.000 is that whoever you trust the most is also the most persuasive so here's here are the names that i put in

00:21:29.960 my highly unscientific poll and i'll tell you why it's just uh completely uh polluted with uh polling

00:21:39.000 errors but uh i first asked people just to tell me who they who they were getting their information

00:21:46.600 from and that seeded the actual poll itself so the names that came up the most were uh governor de

00:21:53.480 santis tucker carlson brett weinstein dr scott atlas dr fauci alex berenson trump steve bannon dr sanjay

00:22:02.600 gupta i threw him in there so we'd have a cnn doctor peter navarro nassim taleb and then i put myself

00:22:09.720 there because i talk about this a lot so in the in the early rounds i actually did pretty well

00:22:15.560 i think i won i won i won my bracket in the uh quarterfinals uh which is uh funny but here was

00:22:25.240 the biggest surprise trump doesn't do well for pandemic opinions which means that even his supporters

00:22:36.120 understand that you're not going to get your medical opinions from trump he is a uh unrepentant

00:22:43.640 hyperbole machine and you don't get your medical advice from a salesman right you can love trump

00:22:55.000 and and love his way you know in his sort of perpetual optimism and win it all costs and everything you can

00:23:02.120 like that but it's not free right it's not free what comes with it is that he's not the best uh voice for

00:23:10.840 medical decisions you can love trump and still say he's just not where i'm going to get my medical

00:23:17.960 advice it's just the wrong place so i think that's consistent and i was surprised that politics and

00:23:25.000 just you know maybe some loyalty for trump because a lot of trump supporters in in my twitter um but he

00:23:32.360 didn't do well at all and i think that's a good thing i think that's a good thing people understand

00:23:38.120 politics versus uh versus medicine but the winners as of last time i checked were governor de santis

00:23:47.240 seemed to have swept through his categories and dominated against tucker carlson who was the other

00:23:52.920 semi-finalist and uh 63 last i checked anyway were voting for the governor now uh alex berenson

00:24:02.840 didn't do so well um i think he came down the maybe the lower half in the end something like that maybe

00:24:10.200 in the middle somewhere and there didn't seem to be much of a correlation between uh experience and

00:24:19.880 credibility the people who had doctor in front of their names didn't do so well not uh not dr fauci

00:24:29.160 but also not dr scott atlas not dr sanjay gupta now in reality in reality i think you would probably

00:24:38.120 take their advice over a journalist right wouldn't you if you if you were standing in a room next to

00:24:45.320 an actual doctor like md and the other one was tucker carlson would you really take tucker's advice

00:24:54.120 over the doctor like if you're in the room i don't think so i suppose it would depend you know

00:25:02.600 maybe on something like masks you might go with tucker but um so first of all the this unscientific

00:25:10.200 poll has no no validity unless there's some overwhelming kind of thing that comes out of it

00:25:16.040 and i would say the overwhelming thing that comes out of it is that ron de santis uh is a real strong

00:25:21.960 contender for president because if you can look to a politician think about this he's a governor and

00:25:30.280 he was on the list with um three doctors and you know nassim talib who's you know famous for his

00:25:38.040 rationality um you know alex berenson who obviously digs into this pretty deeply uh brett weinstein again

00:25:46.440 you know brilliant guy digs into it pretty deeply and still and still a governor just swept the field

00:25:54.840 now i think it's people sort of maybe also favoring him for president i think that's what's happening

00:26:01.160 here so i would say at this point if trump does not decide to run for president and i think there's some

00:26:09.400 chance he won't my guess is he's leaning toward running but if he doesn't uh i think de santis is

00:26:17.720 just he's just going to walk into the at least into the primaries and how he does will depend entirely on

00:26:25.480 how florida does with the coronavirus so if florida does okay with the coronavirus or at least you can

00:26:31.480 make that case uh he would be president and if if if it's easy to make the case that florida didn't

00:26:38.680 work the democrats will certainly try to make that case then he's going to have a tough road because

00:26:43.960 it's all going to come down to the coronavirus uh but de santis is really he's really separated from

00:26:52.520 the crowd right now who would you if it's not trump running as a republican in 2024 who else is

00:27:01.160 even close to de santis right now popularity i don't think anybody all right um vaccine mandates

00:27:10.200 looks like they're coming the other va is going to do it and 50 medical groups requiring it of the

00:27:16.680 employees and california state employees in new york city municipal workers and and even the sfr

00:27:24.120 san francisco bar owners were thinking about doing it for the bars so this is one of the reasons

00:27:31.000 um that i got vaccinated again not trying to convince you to do it but it was obvious early on that you

00:27:41.880 were going to need to show that you were vaccinated for a variety of things now is that a good enough

00:27:47.640 reason to get vaccinated no no don't get vaccinated just so you can have some extra access that's not the

00:27:55.560 reason but it's our reason and uh and in my case which doesn't need to be your case again not trying

00:28:03.560 to talk into anything um it mattered because i was sort of desperate to get back to something that looked

00:28:09.400 like real life i wanted to live my life with as many lack of restrictions as i could if that doesn't mean as

00:28:16.840 much to you then um by all means choose differently um oh back to desantis here's his problem florida

00:28:28.280 counts for one in five new infections at the moment and uh it had uh i think it's like second only to

00:28:38.280 louisiana a number of cases and so they're they're having a real problem there and desantis is hanging

00:28:44.920 tough with no no masks in schools when schools reopen and i feel like he can't win either way sort

00:28:54.040 of a trap because if if the infections are high which they're going to be and he doesn't clamp down

00:29:04.600 then all the moderates are going to say ah you know he should have clamped down he's just being

00:29:09.640 political you know holding out as long as he can for republicans but now it's so bad maybe he should

00:29:15.800 have clamped down now i'm not saying those people would be right or wrong but they might not vote for

00:29:21.000 him if they think they're not he's not doing his job so almost no matter what he does if he requires

00:29:27.240 masks um republicans won't like him if he doesn't require masks in the face of uh having one of the

00:29:34.760 worst infection rates which is where he's heading or is um he's losing other people so he's got two

00:29:42.920 ways to lose on this and the only way he could win is if the virus itself went into remission

00:29:50.440 i don't know he's gonna i don't think he's gonna get enough vaccinations for that to happen

00:29:55.240 all right let's talk about the so-called house select committee sounds pretty important doesn't it

00:30:01.160 this is the people looking into the january 6th thing uh which the republicans describe as a

00:30:07.880 partisan sham so is it the house select committee or is it the partisan sham committee i think we should

00:30:16.760 brand this the partisan sham committee two republicans that uh nancy pelosi put on it are the two most

00:30:24.040 anti-republican republicans anti-republican republicans liz cheney and adam kinzinger guaranteeing

00:30:29.960 that whatever result will not be credible now why would you put together such a you know high

00:30:39.720 visibility thing uh the pelosi select committee yes that's what it is pelosi selected um how can you do

00:30:48.760 such a high visibility thing that's just guaranteed to be a bullshit partisan sham how does that help

00:30:56.440 democrats the answer is a lot because the more they can make the news about their partisan sham which

00:31:06.360 is you know they're going to focus on the violence of the republicans etc it's great for politics so it

00:31:12.920 has nothing to do with the good of the country i think at this point but great for politics so i would

00:31:17.880 say persuasion wise pelosi gets a a plus for persuasion she just has to keep it in the news that's all

00:31:27.320 and she's doing it um is it ethical no no not even close it's nowhere near an ethical but it's effective

00:31:37.720 so if you want to be an unethical persuader there's a good example how to do it here's the dog that wasn't

00:31:45.800 barking and i thought it was interesting at the same time that the uh partisan sham committee is

00:31:52.200 looking into january 6 there was an article about uh the same topic on cnn what word do you expect them

00:32:01.320 to use when they're talking about the january 6 events insurrection right can you imagine that there

00:32:09.480 would ever be a you know a lengthy article about january 6 on cnn with cnn contributors that would

00:32:18.440 never mention the word insurrection it happened it happened today zachary cohen and marshall cohen

00:32:29.160 um they wrote an article on cnn and it's a lengthy article talking about a number of issues and never once

00:32:35.080 did they call it an insurrection did they call it an insurrection why well i think the fact that nobody

00:32:42.840 got charged with anything related to insurrection may have something to do with it maybe the fact that no

00:32:49.880 court has found any insurrection just the way no court has found any massive voter fraud no court has found

00:32:59.320 any insurrection i don't think anybody's been charged with insurrection so i think at some point cnn had

00:33:05.400 to drop that and maybe these two writers are to their credit credible and ethical i mean i don't know them

00:33:16.200 but i would just judge based on the fact that they wrote an article on cnn without using the word

00:33:20.760 insurrection i would give them some credibility for that i would say that that's probably an ethical stand

00:33:27.320 and i would be really curious if the cnn editors ever asked them to use it do you think do you think

00:33:36.760 there was ever a conversation they turned in their piece do you think the editor who decides whether it

00:33:42.040 goes on to the site or not do you think the editor read it and said you know you know what would make

00:33:46.920 this better one word can you just slip that in there i don't know if that happened of course but

00:33:54.440 if it did happen these two writers must have held out so i'm guessing they deserve some credit but i

00:34:02.200 don't know that for sure so pop star pink made a great persuasion play today so there's this uh

00:34:10.840 olympic uh controversy because there was a i guess one of the beach volleyball teams wanted to wear shorts

00:34:18.280 instead of uh bikini bottoms and i guess the olympics was rejecting that and wanted them to

00:34:26.840 wear the traditional bikini bottoms because i think you all know that um the sport of beach volleyball

00:34:36.040 isn't nearly as good unless you can see as much of the female participants buttocks as possible

00:34:41.720 i think that's the argument the olympics is making that you have to see as much buttocks as possible

00:34:49.320 or the sport doesn't work is that their argument because they don't have a good argument let's put it that

00:34:57.800 way and um pink pop star pink has offered to pay the fines handed to the norwegian women's beach team

00:35:08.840 for not wearing the bikini bottles bottoms now i don't know how much the fines will be it can't be

00:35:13.640 that much i would imagine but what a smart play for pink puts her in the news in a positive light

00:35:22.600 she is she's not just bitching about it she's like doing something you know pay the fine which

00:35:28.360 is actually a very practical thing to do because it allows other people to do the same thing gives

00:35:32.840 them freedom to do that so good play pink i give you an a plus for persuasion she saw an opening and she

00:35:40.360 took it now let's talk about the topic um has anybody ever had this experience do any of you have

00:35:50.280 daughters who participated in volleyball in high school have any of you gone to a volleyball tournament

00:36:00.280 of young girls and were you as uncomfortable there as i was because i've been through that experience

00:36:08.600 it's really uncomfortable because the girls there are very young you know 14 to 17 or whatever is the

00:36:16.280 tournaments and they wear these um inexplicably tight short shorts the volleyball players wear for no no

00:36:26.840 functional reason it's not like they need you know extra uh you know extra wind resistance or something

00:36:33.880 there's just no reason and it's it looks totally sexualized like and it's just really creepy and

00:36:44.760 the volleyball thing in the olympics is exactly the same thing beach volleyball was a tv sport because the

00:36:53.080 women were scantily dressed i mean that was certainly part of the sport 60 let's be honest

00:37:01.160 beach volleyball is only a sport because the players look good in bikinis right i mean that was the sport

00:37:08.760 basically it's a it's a spectator sport so um i agree with pink and um i think it's i think it should

00:37:19.720 change i i think that athletes should dress like athletes i don't think athletes should dress like

00:37:25.400 strippers like what the hell somebody says men's swimmers suits swimming is the one thing and maybe

00:37:34.600 running if there's a speed element skiing you know you can see that they need tight clothes because

00:37:40.520 they got some wind resistance and stuff but i don't know that your whole body needs to be hanging out

00:37:46.440 does it now i'm far from a prude but you know especially in the case of high school you're

00:37:52.920 talking about young girls so all right different topic uh famous critic of uh

00:38:03.720 covid related uh policies alex berenson tweeted today a question i don't know if it makes any sense

00:38:10.680 i'll just run it by you uh he said hold on here folks what if they're not vaccines i don't mean in

00:38:17.000 the conspiracy sense i mean legally if they're therapeutics no one can be forced to take them

00:38:23.960 not without an individual core order and finding of incompetency is that true that doesn't really

00:38:31.880 connect to anything i'm aware of but i but the problem might be just what i'm aware of i don't

00:38:36.840 know that it doesn't make sense i just don't understand it is there some kind of law that says

00:38:42.440 the government can force you to take something called a vaccination but they can't force you to take

00:38:48.200 something called a therapeutic is there anything to that and uh would it matter because you know congress

00:38:57.240 can change the law and the courts can interpret it to be anything they want so i would think that a

00:39:02.280 court could just say i see your point but i'm just going to call it a vaccine because it gives you

00:39:07.000 some lasting immunity not complete so i'll just put a question mark on this because i don't think

00:39:14.600 it'll matter in the long run we'll just redefine them as vaccines if they're not if the if there's a

00:39:20.280 practical reason to do that so i got into a little conversation on twitter with paul graham you might

00:39:26.840 know paul graham a famous venture capitalist co-founder of y combinator writer one of the more productive

00:39:36.680 thinkers i would say in the country um and always has good opinions i would say so we got into a little

00:39:45.960 bit of a opinion disagreement here um i think i i tweeted something about how people don't trust scientists

00:39:54.840 that's and other and politicians and social media etc and that's why they don't get vaccines they

00:40:01.640 don't trust the scientists or don't trust science um and paul graham tweeted this he says if if you

00:40:08.360 think you don't trust scientists you're mistaken you trust scientists in a million different ways

00:40:14.200 every time you step on a plane or for that matter turn on your tap or open a can of beans

00:40:19.640 the fact that you're unaware of this doesn't mean it's not so so do he and i really have a disagreement

00:40:29.320 not really we're sort of sort of into you know word thinking here but i said i trust engineers

00:40:35.560 because an engineer needs to keep that that airplane in the air every time right the engineer has to get

00:40:43.720 it right every time and so they don't do anything unless it's been tested to death right that's that's

00:40:49.400 what engineers do so by the time an engineer tells you something works it works i mean not every time but

00:40:58.040 pretty close and that's that's what engineering is but scientists by their nature are flailing around

00:41:05.640 with hypotheses and testing things and 50 of the uh of the peer-reviewed studies end up to be

00:41:13.560 bullshit right so science science is working in the speculative just guessing hey this looks like a

00:41:20.360 good trial let's try this kind of realm of course they're going to make more mistakes and even when

00:41:26.120 they've done something like create a vaccine yeah they still don't disagree they don't still agree on

00:41:31.800 everything right there are always going to be some scientists on the other side um you know

00:41:38.760 i would say there's more likelihood of a vaccine having a side effect than there is of an engineer

00:41:46.600 building a bridge that falls down so i tend to trust engineers but not so much science or scientists

00:41:54.920 although science as a process is the best one we have right you don't have to trust something

00:41:59.640 you can still say it's the best you have if it's the best you have and science is the best we have

00:42:05.880 it just has lots of you know inefficiencies like lots of things so uh claire layman weighed in and

00:42:16.520 on the side of well i don't know maybe just making your own point and said that science technology and

00:42:21.640 engineering and mathematics stem are grouped together for a reason to which i said the reason is not

00:42:29.960 based on their similar levels of credibility yeah there's a reason but it's not relevant to the discussion

00:42:38.120 anyway i think this was just word thinking i don't think any of us would disagree if we're

00:42:42.120 standing in the same room talking about it michael schellenberger points out there's a there's a

00:42:47.080 forbes article that germany's renewable experiment is over he says in the tweet uh so michael says that

00:42:55.080 by 2025 uh germany will have spent 580 billion dollars to make electricity nearly two times more expensive

00:43:04.600 and ten times more carbon intensive than france's we're not so good now i would say that germany has one

00:43:14.840 gigantic management problem i don't think germans are irrational but they're kind of caught in this

00:43:23.960 whole uh holocaust legacy where if you're germany i think you have to be better than good people

00:43:32.440 like i think you have to be the greenest of the green the the most anti-racist of any anti-racist

00:43:39.160 the most progressive in in whatever ways makes sense i feel as if they got trapped by their own

00:43:46.200 history that you know they can't tiptoe into renewables they've got to be like oh we're so

00:43:52.680 green we're the greenest of green we'll save the world yeah we tried to destroy the world but we're

00:43:57.880 saving the world now gonna save the world and i feel like that skews their decision making

00:44:03.960 and if you say to me hey i want you know germany to have a bunch of nuclear power plants

00:44:12.360 it just sounds a little scary doesn't it if you've got the you know the specter of world war ii is

00:44:18.120 still in your mind i don't know how much nuclear anything i want them to have but i assume they have

00:44:23.000 nuclear power but um yeah there there's a there's a guilt issue that i think is affecting their decision

00:44:33.320 making don't know for sure but i would speculate that to be the case seems reasonable all right

00:44:40.520 have i covered everything uh why did the germans import muslims by the millions

00:44:47.480 if they care about anti-semitism obviously they don't want to be racist

00:44:53.080 was that a hard question i think you overpaid for that um

00:45:03.000 oops wow these comments are flinging by uh yeah germany does have nuclear power but they're going

00:45:10.040 as green as they can go i think they were looking to close their nuclear plants if they could do it

00:45:14.760 um like bill nye the engineer guy yeah

00:45:22.840 need to call it new generation nuclear or something that improves the framing

00:45:26.520 yeah i i still like generation four

00:45:32.360 uh all right

00:45:36.520 how the hell is merkel still in charge

00:45:38.520 good question um

00:45:44.760 there's nothing green about wind turbines and solar panels

00:45:49.240 they are a uh problem in a number of ways yes

00:45:56.600 um your response to anti-semitism and muslims did not make sense could you clarify

00:46:02.520 in what way do importing racists into your society well muslims are not presumed to be racist

00:46:09.480 that's it why would you presume anybody's racist

00:46:14.360 just because some members of a group are clearly racist that's every group

00:46:21.320 so and here i'm being devil's advocate you know you're i'm taking germany's point of view

00:46:27.960 if you're germany you have to be the the wokest you can be which means that you don't judge anybody

00:46:34.520 based on the fact that some of them might be bad

00:46:40.360 but if you're telling me statistically is it a good play

00:46:46.600 uh we don't use statistics to make those decisions

00:46:50.360 um

00:46:51.480 see farina says i still love you but the muslims hate the jews in their bible

00:46:55.720 love you well there there's certainly a reason to believe that uh

00:47:03.880 many muslims have bad feelings about many jews so nobody's arguing that but the point is if you

00:47:11.160 make decisions like that you're a racist and germany doesn't want to be a racist so they have two bad

00:47:19.000 choices and they picked the one that looks the least bad to them it's best you can do i'm not

00:47:25.320 defending it i'm just saying that they're they're in a position where they have to be the the least

00:47:31.000 racist looking they could possibly be and they decided that's what that's what looks the least

00:47:36.120 racist they've decided you could argue that i think um

00:47:44.920 all right it's their doctrine well here's the thing

00:47:50.520 i i get the i get the idea that especially in other countries you know muslims have an attitude

00:47:59.240 about jews that's just not going to go away and it's not good but unless they all have it

00:48:06.440 you're being a racist if you don't let them in for that reason all right

00:48:15.480 it's a slippery slope i'm not saying it's not dangerous you know there's a certain risk that

00:48:20.360 you take on with any mass immigration and they've decided to take that risk all right that's about all

00:48:27.400 i got for today i'm going to go do some other stuff and i will talk to you tomorrow

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - July 27, 2021

Episode 1450 Scott Adams： Who is the Most Credible Voice on the Pandemic？ I Help You Sort it Out. And More Headline Fun.

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