Real Coffee with Scott Adams - September 07, 2021


Episode 1492 Scott Adams： Dr. Fauci versus Rand Paul Rematch, and Lots of New Information About the Things You Care About


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

147.13733

Word Count

7,386

Sentence Count

455

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

El Salvador became the first country in the world to accept Bitcoin as legal tender, so does that mean Bitcoin is here to stay? And a billionaire is building a city of the future, and I think this could be the next big, big thing.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good morning, everybody. It's time for one of the best...
00:00:04.260 No, hold on. The best thing in the universe.
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00:00:24.320 Fill it with your favorite liquid.
00:00:25.640 I like coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure,
00:00:31.380 the dopamine to the day, the thing that makes all of your receptors receptive.
00:00:36.180 It's called the simultaneous sip, and it's going to happen right now. Go.
00:00:46.480 Divine. Delightful.
00:00:49.240 Well, a little note to the locals' developers.
00:00:52.780 Looks like your new version is working.
00:00:55.640 I like the new options, but I can't see myself.
00:00:59.480 So my self-image is about 10% of the lighting value it normally is.
00:01:06.740 So you might want to take a look at that.
00:01:09.980 In the news, El Salvador today became the first country
00:01:14.000 to accept Bitcoin as legal tender.
00:01:17.460 So does that mean that Bitcoin is here to stay?
00:01:22.620 It kind of feels like it, doesn't it?
00:01:25.140 I do not make recommendations for crypto or finances in general,
00:01:32.080 so don't get any financial advice from me,
00:01:35.060 but it should be noted that the thing that gives any currency value
00:01:41.240 is whether or not a country will accept it.
00:01:48.100 Because if a country will accept a cryptocurrency to pay taxes,
00:01:53.140 then the cryptocurrency will always have value
00:01:56.060 as long as there's a country that will accept them.
00:01:58.260 Because even if you didn't have any reason to pay taxes in that country,
00:02:03.440 the people who do, they need Bitcoins.
00:02:06.220 So they might have to buy them from you to pay their taxes.
00:02:09.040 For example.
00:02:10.040 That's a bad example.
00:02:11.040 But the point is that if you can find one big country
00:02:14.040 that's taking Bitcoins,
00:02:15.520 it goes a long way to making it permanent.
00:02:20.900 You know, one country isn't enough, probably,
00:02:23.400 but it seems like a big step.
00:02:25.420 I think we've got to keep our eye on that.
00:02:27.620 There's a billionaire looking to build a city of the future.
00:02:32.560 I think this is going to be the next big, big thing.
00:02:37.040 As in, so big you can hardly believe it big.
00:02:40.200 As big as climate change,
00:02:43.320 as big as maybe even the, I don't know, the energy market.
00:02:47.140 I mean, it could be big.
00:02:48.400 And that is designing a city.
00:02:51.340 Because right now we design homes,
00:02:54.260 we design rooms, we design products,
00:02:56.440 we design cars.
00:02:58.760 But you know what?
00:02:59.600 We don't design the city.
00:03:02.460 Because the cities tend to just grow up over time.
00:03:04.820 You know, they tend to be near a port.
00:03:07.500 They evolve in whatever way they evolve.
00:03:09.520 So you end up with a completely unlivable urban centre.
00:03:14.540 Now suppose you started with a greenfield,
00:03:17.880 and you started from scratch to make everything work better.
00:03:21.880 One of the things that they're building into this city of the future,
00:03:25.220 should it be funded, I don't think it's quite funded yet,
00:03:28.380 would be that you could get to everything within 15 minutes.
00:03:32.460 So your work, your shopping,
00:03:34.700 everything would be within 15 minutes.
00:03:36.660 Imagine being close to everything you need.
00:03:41.220 You know, in today's world,
00:03:42.320 people are commuting two hours a day or more,
00:03:45.780 quite fairly frequently.
00:03:47.900 But imagine if you didn't have to do that.
00:03:49.960 And imagine if you made everything eco-friendly,
00:03:53.260 and you designed it so that it would be a natural way
00:03:56.220 to socialize with your neighbours,
00:03:57.680 instead of scurrying in and out of locked doors.
00:04:00.840 So there's a lot we could do there.
00:04:02.200 I think that this redesigning cities from scratch
00:04:05.860 could be the biggest economic driver of the next 100 years.
00:04:11.640 So that's my big prediction,
00:04:13.680 that designed cities will be the next big, big, big thing.
00:04:18.160 Because remember, there are a lot of billionaires in big companies
00:04:20.840 that can no longer do small things.
00:04:24.180 Take Apple Computer.
00:04:25.820 Apple Computer is so big
00:04:27.440 that if it takes on a new line of business,
00:04:31.240 that new line of business has to have
00:04:33.040 potentially an enormous revenue,
00:04:36.520 or else it's not worth it to them,
00:04:38.340 because they can't do little stuff.
00:04:40.000 Little stuff's not worth the time.
00:04:41.260 So as you have these mega-corporations
00:04:44.660 and mega-rich people like Musk and Bezos,
00:04:49.320 they're going to look for stuff to do
00:04:50.960 that is the size they need it to.
00:04:54.040 Now Musk and Bezos are looking at space,
00:04:58.240 because space is one of those few things that's big enough.
00:05:01.600 You can put a lot of money into space,
00:05:04.020 and maybe the returns will be worth it.
00:05:06.560 But building a city is something you can do on this planet
00:05:10.000 that I think a lot of big billionaire types
00:05:12.800 and big companies are going to get interested in it.
00:05:15.420 All right, here's some new information
00:05:16.620 on breakthrough COVID cases when you're vaccinated.
00:05:22.200 Were you under the impression
00:05:23.740 that being vaccinated didn't make much difference
00:05:27.320 in terms of whether you would catch the virus?
00:05:30.920 Now you did understand that if you had a vaccination,
00:05:34.160 your odds of getting sick,
00:05:36.060 you know, desperately sick from the virus were low.
00:05:39.340 I think everybody knew that by now.
00:05:41.800 But you still thought you could get it,
00:05:44.620 which is still true,
00:05:45.760 and you still thought that maybe you could pass it along
00:05:48.660 just like somebody who had not been vaccinated.
00:05:52.080 Turns out that's not even close to true.
00:05:55.700 And it was confusing because we thought that
00:05:58.280 vaccinated people had as much of a viral load
00:06:01.920 in their mouth and nose as unvaccinated people,
00:06:05.300 maybe even more.
00:06:06.100 And so logically you said to yourself,
00:06:08.560 wait a minute,
00:06:09.320 if these vaccinated people have all this virus
00:06:12.640 in their mouth and nose,
00:06:15.280 they must be able to spread it.
00:06:17.300 And sure enough, they can.
00:06:19.220 But the odds of spreading it if you are vaccinated
00:06:22.000 are just vanishingly small.
00:06:24.680 Or actually the odds of getting it in the first place
00:06:27.640 if you're vaccinated is about 1 in 5,000.
00:06:31.660 And it could be as low as 1 in 10,000.
00:06:36.420 So if you're vaccinated,
00:06:38.440 you can still get the virus.
00:06:40.940 But your odds of getting it are,
00:06:42.720 you know, vanishingly small.
00:06:45.800 Vanishingly small.
00:06:46.880 So small that you can actually ignore it.
00:06:49.740 I mean, it's small enough that you don't even need
00:06:51.480 to put it into your consideration.
00:06:53.340 But it exists.
00:06:54.620 So that's the New York Times.
00:06:55.840 David Leonhardt did an article on that.
00:06:58.380 And one of the takeaways is that
00:07:01.480 the amount of viral load in your mouth and nose
00:07:04.480 probably is irrelevant
00:07:07.260 when comparing vaccinated versus unvaccinated.
00:07:10.900 Probably doesn't make any difference
00:07:11.940 because in the real world,
00:07:13.140 they can't find the difference.
00:07:15.300 Well, there's yet more information
00:07:16.960 telling us that narcissism works.
00:07:20.120 There's a new paper by Italian researchers
00:07:22.580 that found that when people have
00:07:25.360 a high degree of narcissism,
00:07:27.080 they are far more likely to be promoted.
00:07:31.020 29% faster in their career progression.
00:07:34.240 No surprise, right?
00:07:35.700 People who are self-promoters
00:07:37.780 and tell you that they're awesome
00:07:39.320 and they did a great job,
00:07:41.140 people believe them.
00:07:43.400 And then they promote them.
00:07:45.120 So being a narcissist is actually,
00:07:47.180 it's actually a benefit.
00:07:51.080 It's a clear economic benefit.
00:07:53.640 Now, I think that's why narcissism
00:07:56.780 is not called a mental disorder
00:07:58.240 because if you call it a mental disorder,
00:08:01.120 it suggests that it's bad
00:08:02.100 for the person who has it.
00:08:04.320 But it doesn't seem to be.
00:08:05.940 It seems to be maybe good
00:08:07.280 for the person who has it.
00:08:08.580 They don't mind at all.
00:08:10.080 It's just bad for the people around them.
00:08:12.900 So I think it's called
00:08:13.940 a personality disorder,
00:08:16.880 narcissism,
00:08:18.200 as opposed to a mental disorder.
00:08:19.940 So here's CNN's anecdotal persuasion
00:08:24.220 for the day.
00:08:25.080 I've been telling you
00:08:25.700 that every single day
00:08:26.780 they'll do one
00:08:28.460 and probably only one story
00:08:30.800 about somebody who wishes
00:08:32.520 they'd been vaccinated.
00:08:34.120 Darn it.
00:08:35.460 And sure enough,
00:08:36.180 there's a Nevada mother,
00:08:37.480 Christina Lowe,
00:08:38.780 is urging others to get vaccinated
00:08:40.640 after losing her husband
00:08:42.300 to the virus,
00:08:43.060 saying that they thought
00:08:44.900 the virus was, quote,
00:08:46.100 a political game.
00:08:47.960 That's right.
00:08:48.720 People dying from the virus
00:08:51.480 who once thought
00:08:53.480 the vaccination was fake
00:08:55.180 and that the virus
00:08:56.200 was not even real.
00:08:58.420 One of these stories
00:08:59.600 every single day.
00:09:01.680 Now, when I told you
00:09:03.260 that CNN was going to run
00:09:04.400 one of these stories every day,
00:09:06.740 did you believe
00:09:07.400 that it would really be every day
00:09:08.740 and that it would be
00:09:09.900 a different story?
00:09:11.420 Same story, but different.
00:09:13.560 Every day?
00:09:14.500 Just one?
00:09:15.000 I'm reading them out
00:09:18.220 every day, right?
00:09:20.000 Can you predict
00:09:20.880 that tomorrow
00:09:21.540 there will be a story
00:09:22.540 about somebody,
00:09:23.440 just one,
00:09:24.480 just one story
00:09:25.460 on CNN's page
00:09:26.900 about yet a new person
00:09:28.880 who wishes
00:09:29.680 they'd been vaccinated
00:09:30.620 because their family member died?
00:09:33.500 So, look for that.
00:09:36.840 Michael Schellenberger
00:09:38.040 is dunking on
00:09:40.900 the renewable
00:09:41.680 energy people
00:09:43.540 in Europe
00:09:44.740 and points out
00:09:46.680 that Britain
00:09:47.700 and others
00:09:48.280 are burning
00:09:48.780 more coal
00:09:49.660 lately
00:09:51.040 because natural gas
00:09:52.300 prices went up.
00:09:53.920 That's one of the reasons.
00:09:55.380 So they had to
00:09:55.920 start burning
00:09:56.960 more natural coal.
00:09:57.960 but there was
00:09:59.660 another reason
00:10:00.240 that they needed
00:10:00.840 a lot of natural coal.
00:10:03.580 Turns out
00:10:04.260 they have a lot
00:10:04.880 of windmills
00:10:05.500 in Great Britain
00:10:06.420 and the wind
00:10:08.280 didn't blow much
00:10:08.980 this year.
00:10:10.680 Yes, natural coal.
00:10:12.480 That's right.
00:10:13.240 I said natural coal
00:10:14.260 and I meant it.
00:10:15.800 The kind that comes
00:10:16.420 right out of the ground.
00:10:18.240 So,
00:10:19.160 what did it make
00:10:21.080 of the fact
00:10:21.540 that the wind
00:10:22.100 might stop blowing?
00:10:24.200 What?
00:10:25.400 Apparently
00:10:25.840 there's a pretty big
00:10:26.680 difference from
00:10:27.320 year to year
00:10:27.900 about how much
00:10:28.440 wind you get.
00:10:30.040 I don't think
00:10:30.540 I knew that.
00:10:31.500 I mean,
00:10:31.700 I knew that
00:10:32.240 hurricanes can differ
00:10:33.360 but I would have
00:10:34.740 thought that
00:10:35.260 if you took
00:10:35.660 the average
00:10:36.240 of the wind
00:10:37.000 of every day
00:10:37.680 for a year
00:10:38.540 it would look
00:10:39.740 a lot,
00:10:40.320 you know,
00:10:40.500 one year would
00:10:41.000 look a lot
00:10:41.360 like another year
00:10:42.180 but apparently
00:10:43.160 not.
00:10:43.960 Apparently
00:10:44.120 you could have
00:10:44.580 a windy year
00:10:45.320 and a non-windy year.
00:10:47.440 So,
00:10:48.000 that's a problem
00:10:49.200 and then I ask
00:10:50.280 you this question.
00:10:52.880 With climate change
00:10:54.460 shouldn't it
00:10:56.100 be windier
00:10:57.060 can somebody
00:10:58.820 give me
00:10:59.200 a fact check
00:11:00.000 on that?
00:11:00.520 If all we're
00:11:02.120 talking about
00:11:02.680 lately is
00:11:03.300 hey,
00:11:03.660 that big storm
00:11:04.460 must be
00:11:04.980 climate change
00:11:05.880 and that hurricane
00:11:07.240 must be
00:11:07.760 climate change
00:11:08.640 and that flood
00:11:09.300 must be
00:11:09.740 climate change
00:11:10.480 and maybe
00:11:11.820 they are.
00:11:12.480 I'm not saying
00:11:13.280 they are
00:11:13.740 or not
00:11:14.480 but if those
00:11:16.120 are all
00:11:16.460 climate change
00:11:17.260 wouldn't the
00:11:19.220 lack of wind
00:11:20.320 quite logically
00:11:23.260 be
00:11:23.920 at least
00:11:24.840 you would
00:11:25.200 suspect
00:11:25.840 had to do
00:11:27.400 with climate
00:11:27.840 change?
00:11:29.300 Now,
00:11:30.000 my instinct
00:11:31.060 would be
00:11:31.380 that climate
00:11:31.820 change would
00:11:32.300 make the wind
00:11:32.880 stronger
00:11:33.600 because there
00:11:35.120 would be
00:11:35.380 more differences
00:11:36.640 in temperature.
00:11:38.720 You know,
00:11:39.020 this is my
00:11:39.520 dumb
00:11:39.900 non-scientist
00:11:40.760 take
00:11:41.060 that probably
00:11:42.640 it creates
00:11:43.180 more imbalances
00:11:44.260 and is it
00:11:45.620 not the
00:11:45.980 imbalances
00:11:46.620 of temperature
00:11:47.640 and pressure
00:11:48.640 that causes
00:11:49.800 the wind?
00:11:50.980 I'm not sure
00:11:51.860 I know what
00:11:52.240 I'm talking
00:11:52.680 about so
00:11:53.400 I put a lot
00:11:55.700 of skepticism
00:11:56.440 on everything
00:11:56.960 I say about
00:11:57.580 weather
00:11:57.880 but
00:11:58.780 if every
00:12:01.400 negative thing
00:12:02.660 that happens
00:12:03.240 in the world
00:12:04.740 is because
00:12:05.300 of climate
00:12:06.020 change,
00:12:06.520 why not
00:12:08.380 the lack
00:12:08.840 of wind?
00:12:11.140 I mean,
00:12:11.600 it should
00:12:12.420 make some
00:12:12.960 difference,
00:12:13.500 right?
00:12:13.820 Climate change
00:12:14.540 should change
00:12:15.100 the wind
00:12:15.440 one way
00:12:15.920 or the other.
00:12:16.680 It's not
00:12:17.280 going to be
00:12:17.520 the same,
00:12:18.320 will it?
00:12:19.440 So it's
00:12:20.060 either going
00:12:20.360 to make it
00:12:20.680 better or
00:12:21.040 worse for
00:12:21.440 windmills
00:12:21.860 and I
00:12:22.360 think that
00:12:22.800 that's
00:12:23.200 probably
00:12:23.560 something
00:12:23.940 we should
00:12:24.360 understand.
00:12:27.080 You may
00:12:27.720 remember
00:12:28.140 that
00:12:28.520 Naval
00:12:29.480 Ravikant
00:12:30.140 on one
00:12:32.000 of my
00:12:32.300 early
00:12:32.680 live streams
00:12:33.260 indicated
00:12:35.000 that addiction
00:12:35.660 is probably
00:12:36.200 going to be
00:12:36.540 the big
00:12:36.880 challenge
00:12:37.260 of the
00:12:37.520 future.
00:12:38.600 Now,
00:12:38.940 he was
00:12:39.240 talking about
00:12:39.680 drug addiction
00:12:40.240 but I
00:12:41.300 think it's
00:12:41.620 bigger than
00:12:42.080 that.
00:12:42.760 Or actually
00:12:43.180 maybe he
00:12:43.640 wasn't talking
00:12:44.160 about just
00:12:44.580 drug addiction
00:12:45.340 but I'll
00:12:46.080 expand it
00:12:46.560 anyway.
00:12:47.400 Because we're
00:12:48.120 addicted now
00:12:48.740 to everything
00:12:49.240 from phones,
00:12:50.280 games,
00:12:50.900 drugs,
00:12:51.720 fast food,
00:12:52.480 social media
00:12:53.060 and here's
00:12:56.100 the real
00:12:56.440 problem.
00:12:57.940 That the
00:12:58.400 technology for
00:12:59.520 getting somebody
00:13:00.180 addicted to
00:13:01.940 anything is
00:13:03.380 way,
00:13:04.100 way better
00:13:04.500 than it
00:13:04.840 used to be.
00:13:06.200 So you
00:13:07.040 can get
00:13:07.440 somebody
00:13:07.800 addicted to
00:13:08.400 food by
00:13:09.620 manipulating
00:13:10.140 the amount
00:13:10.820 of sugar,
00:13:11.880 fat and
00:13:12.380 salt in
00:13:13.160 it.
00:13:13.500 And there's
00:13:13.800 a formula
00:13:14.300 which is
00:13:14.780 known,
00:13:16.160 it's known
00:13:16.660 to the
00:13:17.100 food experts,
00:13:18.320 that if you
00:13:18.740 hit the
00:13:18.980 right ratio
00:13:19.680 of salt,
00:13:20.860 sugar and
00:13:22.260 fat,
00:13:23.760 it's addictive.
00:13:25.760 That's,
00:13:26.120 you know,
00:13:26.320 fast food,
00:13:26.860 for example,
00:13:27.320 is addictive.
00:13:28.500 And so
00:13:29.700 that's an
00:13:30.400 addiction that
00:13:31.540 we can only
00:13:32.860 learn to make
00:13:33.520 food like that
00:13:34.260 because our
00:13:34.740 science is
00:13:35.280 better.
00:13:36.160 In the
00:13:36.780 past it
00:13:37.240 would just
00:13:37.480 be an
00:13:37.780 accident if
00:13:38.700 you made
00:13:39.000 something that
00:13:39.520 turned out
00:13:40.340 to be
00:13:40.560 addictive.
00:13:41.400 But now
00:13:41.760 we can do
00:13:42.220 it every
00:13:42.800 time.
00:13:43.640 You just
00:13:43.900 keep testing
00:13:44.480 until you
00:13:44.900 have it and
00:13:45.320 then you
00:13:45.500 release it.
00:13:46.900 Likewise
00:13:47.360 with games
00:13:48.580 and videos
00:13:49.440 and anything
00:13:50.240 you consume
00:13:51.380 online,
00:13:52.200 we now have
00:13:53.020 the technology
00:13:53.660 to find out
00:13:54.380 exactly which
00:13:55.360 content will
00:13:56.800 addict you.
00:13:58.220 Not just
00:13:58.940 addiction in
00:13:59.540 general, but
00:14:00.600 how much
00:14:00.980 will get you.
00:14:01.720 That's
00:14:03.820 important.
00:14:04.840 What about
00:14:05.200 porn?
00:14:06.520 Porn no
00:14:07.380 longer shows
00:14:08.180 you generic
00:14:08.920 people doing
00:14:09.680 generic and
00:14:10.460 naughty things.
00:14:12.160 Porn can
00:14:12.680 find exactly
00:14:14.140 the thing you
00:14:14.900 want to see.
00:14:16.540 It'll find
00:14:17.200 you a
00:14:18.560 redhead doing
00:14:19.900 God knows
00:14:21.220 what, exactly
00:14:23.080 what you want
00:14:23.680 it to see.
00:14:25.700 Wearing a
00:14:26.520 pearl necklace
00:14:27.080 and heels.
00:14:28.480 You name it.
00:14:29.280 No matter how
00:14:29.880 specific you
00:14:30.700 want to get,
00:14:31.940 you can
00:14:32.340 probably find
00:14:33.100 it.
00:14:33.760 And if you
00:14:34.160 can find
00:14:34.480 exactly what
00:14:35.560 you want
00:14:35.980 for porn
00:14:36.540 versus some
00:14:37.480 generic stuff
00:14:38.200 that works
00:14:38.580 for everybody
00:14:39.060 a little bit,
00:14:40.500 you're going
00:14:41.220 to get more
00:14:41.700 addicted.
00:14:42.920 So our
00:14:43.400 ability to
00:14:44.100 find out
00:14:44.500 what addicts
00:14:45.160 people and
00:14:45.620 then apply
00:14:46.160 it in a
00:14:46.700 commercial sense
00:14:47.480 is off the
00:14:48.280 charts right
00:14:48.760 now.
00:14:49.340 We're really
00:14:49.840 good at it
00:14:50.480 and that's
00:14:51.540 a challenge.
00:14:53.160 So addiction
00:14:53.700 is going to
00:14:54.060 be the number
00:14:54.440 one problem.
00:14:55.220 Drug addiction
00:14:55.720 alone killed
00:14:56.340 93,000 people
00:14:57.920 in the U.S.
00:14:59.700 this year.
00:15:00.700 drug addiction
00:15:03.220 killed 93,000
00:15:06.760 people just
00:15:08.480 this year.
00:15:09.500 It's a new
00:15:10.100 record.
00:15:11.560 Where does it
00:15:11.960 come from?
00:15:12.620 Mostly China
00:15:13.580 passing through
00:15:14.420 the cartels
00:15:15.160 after they
00:15:15.660 process it.
00:15:16.840 At least the
00:15:17.440 fentanyl portion
00:15:18.340 of it.
00:15:19.940 So yeah,
00:15:21.420 we're going to
00:15:22.000 have to learn
00:15:22.400 to deal with
00:15:22.880 addiction and
00:15:23.780 we have not
00:15:24.340 come to grips
00:15:25.080 with that yet.
00:15:25.800 I think we're
00:15:27.080 looking at
00:15:27.500 addiction as
00:15:28.380 something that
00:15:30.280 applies to each
00:15:31.000 individual category.
00:15:32.960 So there are
00:15:33.520 people looking at
00:15:34.160 online addiction,
00:15:35.320 there are people
00:15:35.680 looking at
00:15:36.160 drug addiction,
00:15:37.480 but I think we
00:15:38.300 just need to
00:15:38.880 understand that
00:15:40.220 technology has
00:15:41.180 reached a point
00:15:41.760 where we can
00:15:42.380 make anything
00:15:43.120 addictive,
00:15:44.600 any category,
00:15:45.700 not any product,
00:15:46.640 but any category
00:15:47.520 we can make
00:15:48.080 addictive.
00:15:48.420 And what's
00:15:50.840 that do to
00:15:51.220 people?
00:15:51.660 What's it do
00:15:52.020 to your illusion
00:15:53.100 of free will?
00:15:55.120 Well, Rand Paul
00:15:55.960 is having a good
00:15:57.040 day.
00:15:58.180 You might recall
00:15:58.900 that Rand Paul
00:15:59.440 was accusing
00:16:00.160 Dr. Fauci of
00:16:01.460 being one of
00:16:03.400 the people involved
00:16:04.200 in getting
00:16:05.060 funding that
00:16:06.680 ended up at
00:16:07.480 the Wuhan
00:16:08.200 Institute of
00:16:09.300 Virology.
00:16:10.960 Dr. Fauci said
00:16:11.920 that is 100%
00:16:13.300 false.
00:16:14.540 That did not
00:16:15.220 happen.
00:16:15.700 Rand Paul said,
00:16:16.940 well, it's
00:16:17.340 totally true.
00:16:18.420 We've got the
00:16:19.060 receipts.
00:16:20.960 Well, today
00:16:21.460 there was a
00:16:22.100 new story
00:16:22.700 came out.
00:16:23.280 Was it in
00:16:23.900 the...
00:16:24.980 I forget
00:16:25.700 where it was.
00:16:26.600 But a new
00:16:27.180 story came out
00:16:27.880 that basically
00:16:29.420 confirmed what
00:16:30.500 Rand Paul had
00:16:31.180 been saying,
00:16:32.280 that the
00:16:32.900 funding,
00:16:33.760 American funding
00:16:34.580 through Fauci,
00:16:36.360 Fauci was part
00:16:37.360 of that process,
00:16:38.880 did, in fact,
00:16:41.780 get to the
00:16:42.720 lab.
00:16:43.280 And it did,
00:16:43.940 in fact,
00:16:44.840 specifically
00:16:45.560 include gain
00:16:47.180 of function
00:16:47.700 as it is
00:16:48.480 defined.
00:16:49.840 Now,
00:16:50.380 The Intercept,
00:16:51.160 yes, thank
00:16:51.580 you.
00:16:51.760 It was The
00:16:52.080 Intercept who
00:16:52.720 has that
00:16:53.260 story today.
00:16:55.080 And by the
00:16:55.480 way, you
00:16:55.900 have to watch
00:16:56.380 Glenn Greenwald
00:16:57.500 go off on
00:16:58.680 The Intercept.
00:16:59.560 That's his
00:17:00.140 old publication.
00:17:01.160 I think he
00:17:01.460 was a
00:17:01.720 co-founder.
00:17:02.660 But he's
00:17:03.180 just tearing
00:17:03.740 them apart
00:17:04.260 for hypocrisy.
00:17:07.700 It's really
00:17:08.420 fun to watch
00:17:09.300 him rip
00:17:09.700 them apart.
00:17:10.180 But anyway,
00:17:12.200 it looks like
00:17:12.760 the report
00:17:13.360 completely agrees
00:17:15.060 with Rand Paul
00:17:15.940 that Fauci was
00:17:18.140 part of it.
00:17:18.780 Now, what
00:17:19.780 will Fauci say
00:17:20.820 in response to
00:17:21.720 this?
00:17:22.400 Will Fauci say,
00:17:23.880 well, you
00:17:24.300 got me.
00:17:25.280 You got me
00:17:25.940 now.
00:17:26.740 I did fund
00:17:27.620 that stuff.
00:17:28.980 No.
00:17:30.200 Because I don't
00:17:31.000 think they're
00:17:31.460 talking about the
00:17:32.240 same thing.
00:17:33.320 I think they're
00:17:34.100 using words
00:17:34.900 differently.
00:17:35.460 I believe
00:17:36.900 that Fauci
00:17:37.620 talks about
00:17:39.380 gain of
00:17:39.840 function in
00:17:40.560 a more
00:17:42.120 weaponized
00:17:42.880 way, whereas
00:17:44.340 I think the
00:17:45.720 science talks
00:17:46.360 about gain of
00:17:46.960 function as
00:17:47.660 anything that
00:17:48.400 acquires a
00:17:49.320 function.
00:17:50.000 Doesn't mean
00:17:50.940 it's weaponized
00:17:51.700 necessarily.
00:17:53.420 So I think
00:17:54.260 he's just
00:17:54.700 playing with
00:17:55.340 weasel words
00:17:56.260 to say he
00:17:57.440 wasn't involved.
00:17:58.740 Now, let's
00:17:59.900 say he was
00:18:00.440 involved.
00:18:01.060 Let's say the
00:18:01.560 reporting is
00:18:02.100 accurate and he
00:18:02.880 was part of
00:18:03.520 approving some
00:18:04.140 money that went
00:18:04.740 to the
00:18:05.080 Wuhan Institute
00:18:06.660 of Virology.
00:18:11.120 Let's say
00:18:11.960 that Rand
00:18:15.300 Paul is
00:18:15.720 completely
00:18:16.200 correct.
00:18:17.500 I'm not so
00:18:18.520 sure that that's
00:18:19.560 as damning for
00:18:20.520 Fauci as it
00:18:21.300 looks.
00:18:22.960 I'm not a
00:18:23.980 Fauci supporter
00:18:25.180 per se, but
00:18:26.640 also not the
00:18:27.640 biggest critic.
00:18:29.200 Because even the
00:18:29.800 things that I
00:18:30.540 know he did
00:18:31.120 wrong, such as
00:18:32.360 lying about
00:18:32.960 masks in the
00:18:33.780 beginning, he
00:18:34.800 told us why.
00:18:36.340 And he
00:18:36.620 actually had a
00:18:37.100 reason.
00:18:38.220 Now, you
00:18:38.540 could argue
00:18:39.000 that the
00:18:39.400 reason wasn't
00:18:40.040 good enough.
00:18:41.060 He was trying
00:18:41.580 to protect the
00:18:42.380 supply of N95
00:18:43.460 masks for
00:18:44.920 health care
00:18:45.340 workers.
00:18:46.180 But I think
00:18:46.860 it was good
00:18:47.200 enough.
00:18:48.200 I don't
00:18:48.760 actually ask
00:18:49.460 my government
00:18:50.440 not to lie
00:18:51.100 to me.
00:18:51.840 I do ask
00:18:52.700 my government
00:18:53.200 to lie to
00:18:53.760 me when it
00:18:55.040 matters.
00:18:56.500 Right?
00:18:56.780 If it's for
00:18:57.380 my benefit,
00:18:58.920 yeah, lie to
00:18:59.620 me.
00:19:00.340 Please.
00:19:01.380 Please.
00:19:01.960 Please lie to
00:19:02.520 me.
00:19:02.640 If it's
00:19:03.280 for my
00:19:03.580 benefit, as
00:19:04.720 a citizen.
00:19:05.980 And I think
00:19:06.720 that was one
00:19:07.140 of those
00:19:07.360 cases.
00:19:08.200 It was just
00:19:08.580 a weird case
00:19:09.300 where lying to
00:19:10.220 the public, that
00:19:12.100 might have been
00:19:12.560 the best solution.
00:19:14.020 So I don't even
00:19:14.700 fault Fauci for
00:19:15.980 blatantly lying to
00:19:17.440 us about that.
00:19:18.460 It did, however,
00:19:20.180 destroy his
00:19:20.900 credibility.
00:19:23.080 So he had a
00:19:24.480 reason, and it
00:19:26.420 was a pretty good
00:19:26.960 reason, but it
00:19:28.280 did destroy his
00:19:29.040 credibility, so he
00:19:30.480 paid for it.
00:19:33.200 And actually, I
00:19:34.140 think you'd have
00:19:34.640 to give him a
00:19:36.160 little credit for
00:19:36.780 that.
00:19:37.620 A little bit of
00:19:38.140 credit for that,
00:19:38.760 I think.
00:19:39.660 Now, you can
00:19:40.340 criticize him all
00:19:41.140 you want, but he
00:19:42.120 did make a tough
00:19:42.880 choice in a
00:19:44.300 leadership role, and
00:19:46.180 whenever I see a
00:19:47.880 leader make a
00:19:48.700 tough choice, meaning
00:19:50.460 a lot of people
00:19:51.400 aren't going to
00:19:51.760 like it, I always
00:19:53.700 say to myself, it
00:19:54.440 might be a mistake
00:19:55.160 and it might not
00:19:55.760 be, but at least,
00:19:57.180 damn it, it's
00:19:57.660 leadership.
00:19:59.060 At least it's
00:19:59.680 leadership.
00:20:00.760 You know, you
00:20:01.020 got to have
00:20:01.340 that, but they
00:20:03.520 do make mistakes,
00:20:04.640 of course.
00:20:06.460 Does he get
00:20:07.120 credit for
00:20:07.620 deceiving the
00:20:08.280 administration?
00:20:09.260 Well, I'm
00:20:09.640 talking about
00:20:10.120 deceiving the
00:20:10.940 public.
00:20:14.360 All right, so
00:20:15.400 I'm going to
00:20:15.840 give Rand Paul
00:20:16.560 the win for
00:20:17.560 this week.
00:20:18.320 I feel like
00:20:19.180 Rand Paul's
00:20:20.020 claims have
00:20:21.580 been substantiated.
00:20:23.340 So, Rand Paul
00:20:24.000 for the win.
00:20:27.120 Looks like the
00:20:28.180 Texas abortion
00:20:29.500 law in which
00:20:30.400 citizens can
00:20:31.640 sue an abortion
00:20:33.840 provider, which
00:20:34.960 is a weird
00:20:35.660 law.
00:20:36.220 I don't quite
00:20:36.960 understand how
00:20:37.600 they can do
00:20:37.960 that, but I
00:20:38.660 guess they got
00:20:39.060 away with it.
00:20:39.980 It passes
00:20:40.660 Supreme Court
00:20:42.600 muster.
00:20:44.120 But Mayor
00:20:44.500 Wheeler of
00:20:45.520 Portland said
00:20:48.240 that the city
00:20:48.740 council intends
00:20:49.460 to vote on
00:20:49.960 emergency
00:20:50.400 resolution so
00:20:52.320 that the city
00:20:53.080 of Portland
00:20:53.460 won't do any
00:20:54.640 business with
00:20:55.880 Texas and its
00:20:57.300 employees won't
00:20:58.140 travel there on
00:20:58.800 business.
00:21:00.120 To which I
00:21:00.680 say, how
00:21:01.860 often were
00:21:02.600 Portland
00:21:03.140 employees,
00:21:07.340 employees of
00:21:08.260 the city,
00:21:08.860 how often were
00:21:09.740 they traveling to
00:21:10.500 Texas on
00:21:11.160 business?
00:21:11.580 Is that even a
00:21:13.540 thing?
00:21:14.260 Do you ever need
00:21:15.420 to go to Texas
00:21:16.080 on business if
00:21:17.660 you work for a
00:21:18.420 local city?
00:21:20.760 I don't know.
00:21:21.360 It feels like this
00:21:22.160 is purely symbolic.
00:21:23.100 But, as
00:21:25.600 somebody smart
00:21:26.300 pointed out, by
00:21:28.060 Texas making
00:21:30.100 the abortion
00:21:30.720 law a big
00:21:31.800 topic, they
00:21:33.500 may have
00:21:33.900 screwed
00:21:34.320 Republicans in
00:21:35.320 the next
00:21:35.720 election because
00:21:37.300 it's going to
00:21:38.220 make the next
00:21:38.800 election about
00:21:39.980 abortion.
00:21:42.480 And if the
00:21:43.040 election is about
00:21:44.260 abortion,
00:21:46.200 Republicans lose.
00:21:48.140 So I don't
00:21:49.260 think they wanted
00:21:49.880 to make it about
00:21:50.980 abortion, but that's
00:21:51.780 what happened.
00:21:53.920 You may be
00:21:54.820 aware that I
00:21:55.680 have been saying
00:21:56.160 for a long
00:21:56.620 time that
00:21:57.460 systemic racism
00:22:00.380 and structural
00:22:01.280 racism are real.
00:22:03.480 And the biggest
00:22:04.040 source of them is
00:22:05.740 the school system,
00:22:07.040 which doesn't
00:22:07.780 adequately educate
00:22:09.920 black citizens,
00:22:11.720 and others as
00:22:12.500 well.
00:22:12.980 But if we're
00:22:13.720 talking about
00:22:15.020 racist outcomes,
00:22:17.580 let's just keep
00:22:18.440 it simple and
00:22:19.020 say our schools
00:22:20.240 are not adequately
00:22:21.540 educating black
00:22:22.600 citizens, and
00:22:23.480 that is a
00:22:25.140 serious, serious
00:22:26.420 ethical as
00:22:29.180 well as
00:22:29.580 practical problem.
00:22:31.300 I mean,
00:22:31.560 ethically it's
00:22:32.220 just, it's
00:22:34.120 beyond imagination.
00:22:36.680 It's so
00:22:37.300 unethical.
00:22:38.020 Immoral, I
00:22:38.580 guess.
00:22:39.380 I'd say it's
00:22:39.860 immoral.
00:22:41.900 And just
00:22:42.720 deeply immoral.
00:22:44.080 I mean, it's
00:22:44.540 immoral on a
00:22:45.160 level that it's
00:22:45.980 hard, you know,
00:22:46.620 short of actually
00:22:47.200 killing people,
00:22:47.940 it's hard to
00:22:49.880 find other
00:22:50.380 topics that
00:22:51.000 are as
00:22:51.240 immoral as
00:22:52.720 the fact that
00:22:53.200 we don't
00:22:53.560 adequately educate
00:22:55.080 black people to
00:22:57.620 the way that we
00:22:58.200 should.
00:22:59.960 So,
00:23:01.440 Wall Street Journal
00:23:02.760 article today,
00:23:03.780 Bill McGurn,
00:23:04.860 writing for the
00:23:05.520 Wall Street Journal,
00:23:07.720 basically points
00:23:08.660 out that the
00:23:09.180 real structural
00:23:09.920 racism is the
00:23:10.960 school system.
00:23:11.540 And, of
00:23:12.780 course, what
00:23:13.320 is the big
00:23:14.520 problem with
00:23:15.000 the school
00:23:15.360 system?
00:23:16.540 Well, the
00:23:17.220 biggest problem
00:23:17.840 is that the
00:23:18.560 teachers' unions
00:23:19.520 prevent competition.
00:23:22.020 And where
00:23:22.440 competition is
00:23:23.400 prevented, nothing
00:23:24.300 ever grows.
00:23:25.380 We know that.
00:23:26.380 I mean, there's
00:23:26.780 no way around
00:23:28.840 it.
00:23:29.660 So, here's the
00:23:30.760 only thing that I
00:23:31.600 would point to
00:23:32.880 as important.
00:23:35.760 Is it going
00:23:36.700 to enter the
00:23:37.700 mainstream
00:23:38.200 thought that
00:23:40.440 teachers' unions
00:23:41.320 are the main
00:23:42.280 source?
00:23:42.820 I'd say 75%,
00:23:44.140 just sort of
00:23:45.200 subjectively.
00:23:46.640 Is it going to
00:23:47.520 enter the
00:23:47.880 mainstream thought
00:23:48.720 that teachers'
00:23:49.640 unions are the
00:23:50.600 cause of
00:23:51.140 systemic racism?
00:23:52.640 75% of it.
00:23:54.640 Because it's
00:23:55.340 now, it's a
00:23:56.480 major article in
00:23:57.260 the Wall Street
00:23:57.680 Journal.
00:23:59.340 But, guess
00:24:00.640 what?
00:24:01.760 Larry Elder,
00:24:02.720 running for
00:24:03.680 governor in the
00:24:05.020 recall election in
00:24:05.840 California, is
00:24:07.340 quoted as saying,
00:24:08.280 quote, the
00:24:09.180 number one
00:24:09.700 obstacle to
00:24:10.460 school choice
00:24:11.300 is the
00:24:11.920 teachers'
00:24:12.400 unions.
00:24:14.120 And then he
00:24:14.780 points out, who
00:24:15.460 is the number
00:24:15.960 one funder of
00:24:17.100 his opponent?
00:24:17.920 That would be
00:24:18.320 Gavin Newsom.
00:24:19.840 The teachers'
00:24:20.760 unions.
00:24:22.460 So, Larry Elder
00:24:23.740 is now also
00:24:24.880 making the case,
00:24:25.940 and I'm sure he's
00:24:26.680 made it before,
00:24:27.840 but the case is
00:24:28.840 becoming a little
00:24:29.400 more prominent,
00:24:30.680 that the teachers'
00:24:32.040 unions are the
00:24:33.840 problem.
00:24:35.180 And you're seeing
00:24:35.960 it in two
00:24:36.340 different ways on
00:24:37.040 the same day.
00:24:38.440 So, you know
00:24:39.480 how the
00:24:39.980 zeitgeist works?
00:24:41.220 Have you ever
00:24:41.560 heard of that
00:24:41.880 word?
00:24:42.520 It's a German
00:24:43.180 word that we
00:24:43.920 use in America,
00:24:44.780 zeitgeist.
00:24:46.540 And there's no
00:24:47.440 direct English
00:24:49.500 interpretation.
00:24:50.180 Is that true?
00:24:52.780 I don't know if
00:24:53.340 that's true.
00:24:54.020 But it's a word
00:24:54.540 we use that
00:24:55.900 says there's
00:24:56.600 just an idea
00:24:57.240 that's in the
00:24:57.780 air, and
00:24:59.100 everybody starts
00:24:59.880 thinking the
00:25:00.480 same way, and
00:25:01.060 you're not sure
00:25:01.500 why.
00:25:01.840 this might be
00:25:04.120 one of those.
00:25:05.880 But it might
00:25:06.400 also tell you
00:25:07.020 why people
00:25:08.560 start thinking
00:25:09.240 of things at
00:25:09.780 the same time.
00:25:11.000 Because I'd
00:25:12.060 like to think
00:25:12.620 it's not a
00:25:13.180 coincidence that
00:25:15.420 people with
00:25:16.880 big platforms
00:25:17.640 who are
00:25:18.140 persuasive are
00:25:19.540 trying to make
00:25:20.420 the zeitgeist
00:25:21.300 see the
00:25:22.820 teachers'
00:25:23.380 unions as
00:25:24.460 the big
00:25:24.800 problem, for
00:25:25.420 systemic racism
00:25:26.280 and other
00:25:27.020 reasons.
00:25:28.640 So, I
00:25:29.980 wonder, is
00:25:31.580 the zeitgeist
00:25:32.280 real, or
00:25:33.620 is there
00:25:33.920 always an
00:25:35.120 influencer that's
00:25:36.200 just making
00:25:36.660 the zeitgeist
00:25:37.300 what it is?
00:25:38.600 Does it just
00:25:39.160 happen on its
00:25:39.680 own?
00:25:40.560 Sometimes I
00:25:41.160 think it
00:25:41.440 must.
00:25:42.460 But I also
00:25:42.860 think that
00:25:43.380 sometimes there
00:25:44.160 are influencers
00:25:45.560 behind the
00:25:46.240 curtain, and
00:25:47.600 you don't know
00:25:48.120 why you're
00:25:48.440 thinking what
00:25:48.880 you're thinking.
00:25:49.720 But somebody
00:25:50.280 caused you to
00:25:50.920 think it.
00:25:54.200 Why don't we
00:25:55.020 know what
00:25:55.400 makes a virus
00:25:56.080 go away?
00:25:56.820 I come back
00:25:57.480 to this topic
00:25:58.080 all the time,
00:25:59.240 because the
00:26:00.420 more we learn
00:26:01.100 about COVID
00:26:02.700 and viruses
00:26:04.160 in general,
00:26:04.980 the more
00:26:05.660 mysterious they
00:26:06.500 get.
00:26:07.680 Instead of
00:26:08.420 getting smarter,
00:26:09.920 I feel like
00:26:10.480 we're getting
00:26:10.860 dumber.
00:26:12.260 It's like
00:26:12.620 there's as
00:26:12.980 much misinformation
00:26:13.720 about viruses
00:26:14.660 as there is
00:26:15.560 information.
00:26:17.940 But I'll
00:26:18.560 tell you what
00:26:18.960 my guess is.
00:26:19.860 So I heard
00:26:20.360 somebody smart
00:26:20.980 on Twitter
00:26:21.360 say that
00:26:22.560 viruses go
00:26:23.340 away because
00:26:23.800 they mutate,
00:26:25.540 and they
00:26:26.040 favor mutating
00:26:27.300 towards something
00:26:27.960 that spreads
00:26:29.020 faster, so
00:26:30.360 everything wants
00:26:31.640 to reproduce
00:26:32.340 faster.
00:26:33.760 That's why
00:26:34.140 that's a key
00:26:35.500 component of
00:26:36.180 evolution.
00:26:37.560 So some
00:26:38.940 thought is
00:26:39.420 just that the
00:26:40.280 less lethal
00:26:41.880 stuff is what
00:26:43.780 it evolves
00:26:45.240 to, and the
00:26:46.760 lethal stuff
00:26:47.460 kills people
00:26:48.080 before they can
00:26:48.760 spread it, so
00:26:49.720 it doesn't
00:26:50.060 evolve as fast.
00:26:52.340 But we have
00:26:53.240 a problem with
00:26:53.800 the Delta
00:26:54.660 variant and
00:26:55.260 maybe some
00:26:55.620 other variants,
00:26:56.480 in that they
00:26:56.900 don't ever seem
00:26:57.460 to die out,
00:26:58.440 at least not
00:26:59.320 yet.
00:27:00.140 But we do
00:27:00.760 have reports
00:27:02.080 of, let's
00:27:03.300 say, if you
00:27:05.020 look at the
00:27:05.400 dynamics of
00:27:06.040 India versus
00:27:06.840 Israel, this
00:27:08.160 comes from
00:27:08.760 Twitter account
00:27:09.480 COVID-19
00:27:10.320 Crusher.
00:27:11.780 And if you
00:27:12.220 do some
00:27:12.760 magic on the
00:27:14.480 numbers, it
00:27:14.960 looks like one
00:27:16.540 of them has
00:27:17.040 lots of
00:27:17.460 vaccinations and
00:27:19.000 is getting a
00:27:19.680 certain result in
00:27:20.560 their curve, and
00:27:22.080 one of them does
00:27:22.860 not have many
00:27:23.740 vaccinations and
00:27:25.240 is identical in
00:27:26.140 their curve of
00:27:27.240 decrease in
00:27:28.320 cases.
00:27:29.600 So, the
00:27:30.260 question is, can
00:27:31.500 you compare
00:27:31.980 these two
00:27:32.420 things, region
00:27:33.720 in India versus
00:27:34.680 Israel, and
00:27:35.920 say, oh, we've
00:27:36.660 learned something,
00:27:37.420 vaccinations work
00:27:38.400 or they don't
00:27:38.820 work.
00:27:39.540 And I would
00:27:40.140 say, no.
00:27:41.900 No.
00:27:43.260 Every time you
00:27:44.120 see a comparison
00:27:44.980 of two regions,
00:27:46.960 whether it's
00:27:47.540 state to state
00:27:48.340 or country to
00:27:49.120 country or
00:27:49.980 counties within
00:27:51.540 a region or
00:27:53.120 whatever, they're
00:27:54.120 all useless.
00:27:56.140 too many other
00:27:57.080 variables.
00:27:58.520 And it'll take
00:27:59.060 about a second
00:27:59.780 after one of
00:28:00.940 those graphs
00:28:02.020 appear on the
00:28:02.580 internet for
00:28:03.720 somebody smart
00:28:04.460 to say, ah,
00:28:05.360 that number is
00:28:06.400 wrong, you
00:28:07.580 picked the wrong
00:28:08.140 number from the
00:28:08.780 wrong column, or
00:28:09.920 there's some
00:28:11.020 obvious reason
00:28:11.740 that it's wrong.
00:28:12.980 So, 100% of
00:28:14.740 the time, when
00:28:15.480 you see any two
00:28:16.260 countries compared
00:28:17.880 for COVID, just
00:28:19.700 discount it.
00:28:20.800 In your mind, you
00:28:21.580 should say, nope,
00:28:23.400 doesn't mean
00:28:23.920 anything.
00:28:24.260 No matter how
00:28:25.560 clear the data
00:28:26.580 looks and how
00:28:27.900 obvious the
00:28:28.880 interpretation would
00:28:30.740 be, just assume
00:28:32.140 the data is
00:28:32.600 wrong, because it
00:28:33.600 almost always is.
00:28:35.280 Now, maybe not
00:28:36.060 every time, but
00:28:36.960 probably 95% of
00:28:38.240 the time.
00:28:40.460 Yeah.
00:28:41.460 Somebody's saying,
00:28:42.200 why aren't
00:28:42.420 homeless people
00:28:43.180 dying from
00:28:43.940 COVID?
00:28:44.580 Well, let me
00:28:45.140 tell you what I
00:28:45.880 think is going
00:28:46.580 on.
00:28:47.980 Often the virus
00:28:48.840 goes around in
00:28:49.600 the community, a
00:28:50.920 lot of people
00:28:51.420 are going to get
00:28:51.700 a low viral
00:28:52.620 initial dose, maybe
00:28:54.780 so low that
00:28:56.440 their immunity
00:28:57.300 kicks in before
00:28:58.080 they even know
00:28:58.580 they have a
00:28:58.960 problem.
00:29:00.220 So I feel as
00:29:01.120 if it's the
00:29:01.760 low doses of
00:29:03.000 the virus that
00:29:03.900 make the virus
00:29:04.720 effectively its
00:29:06.400 own vaccination.
00:29:08.040 So it could be
00:29:08.880 a combination of
00:29:09.700 it evolves, it
00:29:11.800 evolves to
00:29:12.400 something less
00:29:13.180 deadly but more
00:29:14.280 spready, because
00:29:15.480 that's how viruses
00:29:16.240 like to evolve.
00:29:17.540 That gives them
00:29:18.140 more opportunities
00:29:19.780 to live.
00:29:21.740 But also, I
00:29:22.760 think some
00:29:23.080 kind of self
00:29:24.360 vaccination is
00:29:25.320 happening, I
00:29:26.060 think.
00:29:26.740 That would be
00:29:27.280 just speculation.
00:29:29.940 All right, but
00:29:30.440 it's weird that we
00:29:31.020 don't know what
00:29:31.480 makes the virus go
00:29:32.280 away.
00:29:36.820 There's another
00:29:37.540 study on proper
00:29:39.220 mask use.
00:29:40.480 What do you
00:29:40.820 think?
00:29:42.060 New study,
00:29:43.220 actually from
00:29:43.860 June, I think.
00:29:45.920 And it said
00:29:46.560 masks definitely
00:29:47.460 work and it
00:29:48.400 makes a big
00:29:48.800 difference.
00:29:49.500 Now, you don't
00:29:49.940 need to know
00:29:50.340 the data.
00:29:51.020 Do you believe
00:29:51.480 it?
00:29:52.700 So you just
00:29:53.440 heard there's
00:29:53.860 a study that
00:29:55.620 says masks
00:29:57.120 totally work and
00:29:58.660 they work pretty
00:29:59.260 well.
00:30:00.360 You know, reduces
00:30:01.160 the R by maybe
00:30:02.200 20-25%, which
00:30:03.660 would be a lot.
00:30:05.180 Do you believe
00:30:05.660 it?
00:30:08.020 Unfortunately,
00:30:08.600 no.
00:30:09.120 But here's
00:30:09.760 something I'm
00:30:10.240 going to add to
00:30:10.860 that conversation.
00:30:13.540 Do you remember
00:30:14.420 when all the
00:30:15.160 smart people said
00:30:16.120 masks don't work
00:30:17.400 because people
00:30:18.540 fuss with
00:30:19.160 them?
00:30:20.760 Right?
00:30:21.960 All the smart
00:30:22.820 people said that,
00:30:23.580 right?
00:30:24.040 They said masks
00:30:24.800 aren't going to
00:30:25.240 help you much
00:30:26.000 because you're
00:30:27.100 touching them and
00:30:27.720 fussing with them
00:30:28.380 and stuff's on
00:30:29.040 your hands and
00:30:30.400 your hands are
00:30:30.880 infected and it's
00:30:31.760 just a big old
00:30:32.340 mess.
00:30:34.300 And then we
00:30:35.060 learned that the
00:30:36.720 virus doesn't like
00:30:37.680 surfaces.
00:30:39.160 It's pretty much
00:30:39.960 airborne or you
00:30:41.080 don't get it.
00:30:42.060 Right?
00:30:42.260 So you don't
00:30:43.300 see people
00:30:43.880 worrying about
00:30:44.800 touching doorknobs
00:30:45.700 anymore.
00:30:47.400 You know, if you
00:30:47.720 go down the
00:30:48.160 escalator, I
00:30:49.600 try not to hold
00:30:50.980 the handrail on
00:30:51.660 the escalator, but
00:30:52.380 you could.
00:30:53.440 You could touch
00:30:54.340 all the items in
00:30:55.820 your office with
00:30:56.600 your bare hands.
00:30:58.760 Right?
00:30:59.560 So I think all of
00:31:00.700 the worry about
00:31:01.300 touching your mask
00:31:02.760 didn't make any
00:31:04.620 difference.
00:31:05.840 So I think we
00:31:08.300 will come to
00:31:08.940 learn that you
00:31:10.060 could be touching
00:31:10.660 your mask all
00:31:11.420 day long and
00:31:12.660 it will have
00:31:12.980 almost nothing
00:31:13.700 to do with
00:31:14.200 transmission rates
00:31:15.120 because the
00:31:16.180 only thing that
00:31:16.640 matters is how
00:31:17.300 much of that
00:31:17.740 virus is getting
00:31:18.860 through the mask
00:31:19.640 and in the air.
00:31:20.900 It probably
00:31:21.500 doesn't matter at
00:31:22.200 all if you
00:31:23.520 touch it with
00:31:24.020 your hands because
00:31:25.160 it doesn't seem
00:31:25.700 to be a surface
00:31:26.480 spreading problem.
00:31:28.740 So I would
00:31:30.100 warn you that I
00:31:30.940 am not a doctor
00:31:31.640 and you should
00:31:33.740 probably scrub
00:31:39.860 down your
00:31:40.300 surfaces and
00:31:40.960 wash your
00:31:41.320 hands as much
00:31:41.840 as possible.
00:31:42.420 That's what the
00:31:42.780 experts say.
00:31:43.760 I have no reason
00:31:44.320 to believe they're
00:31:44.840 wrong, but I'm
00:31:45.800 just going to add
00:31:46.360 that whoever said
00:31:47.160 that the mask
00:31:48.140 touching was going
00:31:49.580 to be a big
00:31:50.100 issue, it's
00:31:51.520 probably not an
00:31:51.980 issue at all.
00:31:52.800 It's probably
00:31:53.200 zero.
00:31:55.420 China is doomed
00:31:56.320 for lots of
00:31:58.180 different reasons,
00:31:59.120 but here's one
00:31:59.660 way.
00:32:00.760 So China is
00:32:01.320 talking about how
00:32:01.900 they want to
00:32:02.540 pursue common
00:32:03.860 prosperity, meaning
00:32:05.620 that they have
00:32:06.180 too many rich
00:32:06.740 people and too
00:32:07.800 many poor
00:32:08.120 people.
00:32:08.380 So there's
00:32:09.560 1% of China
00:32:11.400 owns a third
00:32:12.420 of the
00:32:12.620 country.
00:32:13.940 1% owns a
00:32:16.060 third of the
00:32:16.460 wealth in the
00:32:17.160 country.
00:32:18.100 Turns out that's
00:32:19.160 just about what
00:32:19.880 it is in America
00:32:20.600 too.
00:32:21.940 But China is
00:32:23.000 saying, hey, we
00:32:23.520 have to change
00:32:24.040 this.
00:32:25.200 They're basically
00:32:25.940 saying we knew
00:32:26.560 we were going to
00:32:27.060 create a bunch of
00:32:28.040 rich people by
00:32:29.200 opening up the
00:32:29.900 economy, as they
00:32:30.660 have in past
00:32:31.260 decades.
00:32:31.820 But they
00:32:33.640 thought that
00:32:34.100 phase two would
00:32:35.440 be to become
00:32:36.700 more socialist
00:32:37.600 after they made
00:32:38.540 a lot of
00:32:38.860 money.
00:32:40.200 So China's
00:32:40.920 strategy is to
00:32:42.360 use capitalism
00:32:43.140 to make a
00:32:43.960 bunch of
00:32:44.260 money, and
00:32:44.760 now they
00:32:45.060 figure they've
00:32:45.560 done that.
00:32:46.680 And now
00:32:47.140 they're going
00:32:47.500 to try to
00:32:47.940 figure out how
00:32:48.460 to claw back
00:32:49.220 that money
00:32:49.680 from the
00:32:50.100 billionaires so
00:32:51.400 that the
00:32:51.760 poor people
00:32:52.260 can benefit.
00:32:54.360 What is it
00:32:56.400 that China is
00:32:57.920 about to do
00:32:58.740 wrong?
00:32:59.160 What they're
00:33:02.880 about to do
00:33:03.460 wrong is
00:33:04.220 ignore human
00:33:05.120 motivation.
00:33:06.600 Yeah.
00:33:07.460 I'm seeing it
00:33:08.060 in the comments,
00:33:08.640 right?
00:33:10.140 The only reason
00:33:11.360 they have money
00:33:12.120 is that they
00:33:13.420 didn't do the
00:33:14.620 thing that they're
00:33:15.160 planning to do
00:33:15.860 next.
00:33:17.060 And I don't
00:33:17.820 know if those
00:33:18.680 two things can
00:33:19.340 ever be
00:33:19.840 compatible.
00:33:21.020 Now, you
00:33:21.660 know, there is
00:33:22.920 some reason to
00:33:23.820 imagine you
00:33:24.840 could tweak it
00:33:25.440 because, you
00:33:25.960 know, Europe
00:33:26.480 has highly
00:33:27.600 socialist
00:33:28.220 countries with
00:33:29.140 capitalism, so
00:33:30.100 maybe, you
00:33:32.000 know, maybe
00:33:32.620 they can just
00:33:33.180 have good
00:33:33.580 health care
00:33:34.020 and stuff.
00:33:35.100 But I feel
00:33:36.160 like it's
00:33:36.600 going to be
00:33:36.960 a big, big
00:33:38.180 problem.
00:33:39.560 And this, I
00:33:40.720 feel as if
00:33:41.300 this income
00:33:41.960 inequality, which
00:33:43.680 isn't going to
00:33:44.180 change, by the
00:33:44.740 way, because
00:33:45.240 the rich people
00:33:46.180 also control
00:33:46.940 the government
00:33:49.080 in China, just
00:33:51.180 like pretty much
00:33:51.780 everywhere.
00:33:53.300 So the rich
00:33:54.020 people aren't
00:33:54.420 going to want
00:33:54.980 to give away
00:33:55.340 their money, so
00:33:56.500 they're just
00:33:56.820 going to stop
00:33:57.320 it from
00:33:57.600 happening.
00:33:57.920 So if
00:33:59.560 income inequality
00:34:00.840 just keeps
00:34:01.400 getting worse
00:34:02.060 and the
00:34:02.740 poorest people
00:34:03.400 in China
00:34:03.820 are having
00:34:04.180 a tough
00:34:04.520 time, I
00:34:06.020 don't know,
00:34:06.500 it could be
00:34:06.800 a revolution.
00:34:08.380 It could be.
00:34:09.720 CNN has
00:34:10.480 some fake
00:34:11.740 news on
00:34:12.360 marijuana, or
00:34:14.760 at least that's
00:34:15.220 how I interpret
00:34:15.800 it.
00:34:16.580 It's suggesting
00:34:17.940 that no matter
00:34:18.760 whether you
00:34:19.160 smoke it, vape
00:34:19.860 it, or eat
00:34:20.560 it, cannabis
00:34:21.560 increases your
00:34:23.100 risk of a
00:34:23.580 heart attack.
00:34:24.120 So they
00:34:26.060 found that
00:34:26.520 people who
00:34:27.000 smoked
00:34:27.380 marijuana, or
00:34:28.180 imbibed it
00:34:28.720 in any way,
00:34:29.880 had a greater
00:34:30.540 chance of
00:34:31.100 having a
00:34:31.420 heart attack
00:34:31.820 than people
00:34:32.260 who didn't.
00:34:34.580 Was that
00:34:35.320 causation, or
00:34:37.880 correlation?
00:34:41.840 Was it
00:34:42.540 causation or
00:34:43.320 correlation?
00:34:44.760 Shit.
00:34:45.920 Was it
00:34:46.240 causation or
00:34:47.280 correlation?
00:34:48.900 Which one
00:34:49.280 was it?
00:34:49.640 Well, they
00:34:53.060 even say it
00:34:53.720 was not
00:34:54.160 causation.
00:34:55.660 So they
00:34:56.100 did not
00:34:56.500 determine
00:34:56.880 causation.
00:34:58.200 But CNN
00:34:58.680 reported it
00:35:00.140 like they
00:35:00.480 had.
00:35:01.720 But in
00:35:02.460 their own
00:35:02.780 words, they
00:35:03.520 have not.
00:35:04.940 Now, is
00:35:05.760 there anything
00:35:06.280 that would
00:35:06.680 suggest to
00:35:07.300 you why
00:35:07.860 people who
00:35:08.440 are more
00:35:08.820 likely to
00:35:09.360 smoke
00:35:09.600 marijuana
00:35:10.080 might have
00:35:11.380 worse
00:35:12.760 health
00:35:13.700 outcomes?
00:35:15.920 Well, one
00:35:17.240 reason that
00:35:17.760 people smoke
00:35:18.400 marijuana is
00:35:19.240 that they're
00:35:19.540 using it
00:35:19.940 because they
00:35:20.360 have bad
00:35:20.780 health outcomes
00:35:21.620 in the first
00:35:22.020 place.
00:35:23.220 So probably
00:35:23.760 marijuana does
00:35:24.580 skew a little
00:35:25.360 bit toward
00:35:25.780 people with
00:35:26.320 worse health
00:35:27.640 because it's
00:35:28.820 a medicine.
00:35:30.080 Who takes
00:35:30.840 more medicine?
00:35:32.460 People who
00:35:33.220 need medicine.
00:35:34.320 People in
00:35:34.700 poor health.
00:35:35.880 So that would
00:35:36.380 be one correlation
00:35:37.160 I'd look at.
00:35:39.200 But I would
00:35:39.920 imagine that
00:35:40.460 people who are
00:35:41.020 more likely to
00:35:41.660 smoke marijuana
00:35:42.300 are more likely
00:35:43.060 to do anything
00:35:43.840 dangerous.
00:35:44.840 More likely to
00:35:45.840 eat fast food,
00:35:47.880 more likely to
00:35:48.500 do a lot of
00:35:48.940 things.
00:35:49.240 So I
00:35:49.780 wouldn't put
00:35:50.320 too much
00:35:50.760 credibility in
00:35:51.880 that study.
00:35:56.460 What is up
00:35:57.560 with those
00:35:58.500 old videos
00:35:59.220 we saw of
00:35:59.940 people collapsing
00:36:00.760 in the street
00:36:01.460 in China?
00:36:03.080 Will we ever
00:36:04.020 know why we
00:36:05.260 saw those?
00:36:06.120 Remember in the
00:36:06.760 beginning of the
00:36:07.220 pandemic it
00:36:07.880 looked like people
00:36:08.420 were just
00:36:08.740 falling over
00:36:09.320 dead in
00:36:11.140 Wuhan?
00:36:11.980 Well, those
00:36:13.260 are obviously
00:36:13.800 faked or
00:36:15.900 doctored or
00:36:16.720 something because
00:36:18.180 definitely people
00:36:19.120 are not
00:36:19.420 walking down
00:36:19.860 the street
00:36:20.160 and falling
00:36:20.720 over dead.
00:36:22.200 But why
00:36:23.800 did they do
00:36:24.360 that?
00:36:26.040 Was it to
00:36:26.840 cause their
00:36:27.420 own public
00:36:28.220 to do anything
00:36:29.000 they told
00:36:29.420 them to do?
00:36:31.340 Was it a
00:36:33.660 way to round
00:36:34.200 up dissonance?
00:36:36.240 You know,
00:36:36.520 just a cover
00:36:37.040 story for
00:36:37.600 rounding up
00:36:38.120 dissonance?
00:36:39.640 No, no.
00:36:40.520 I wonder if
00:36:41.020 we'll ever
00:36:41.300 know.
00:36:41.560 Or was it
00:36:42.400 something to
00:36:42.880 screw the
00:36:43.400 rest of the
00:36:43.840 world so the
00:36:45.000 rest of the
00:36:45.460 world would
00:36:45.940 shut down
00:36:46.360 their economy
00:36:47.100 whereas China
00:36:48.380 wouldn't?
00:36:49.740 Because I
00:36:50.120 don't see that
00:36:50.740 benefiting them
00:36:51.660 exactly because
00:36:52.320 they have to
00:36:52.660 sell to the
00:36:53.120 rest of the
00:36:53.440 world.
00:36:54.440 So I don't
00:36:54.720 know.
00:36:55.200 Maybe we'll
00:36:55.680 never know,
00:36:56.260 but it's
00:36:56.740 weird.
00:36:57.820 All right,
00:36:58.140 so here's my
00:36:58.660 provocative
00:36:59.100 question of
00:36:59.800 the day.
00:37:00.080 What would
00:37:00.340 the pandemic
00:37:00.840 look like if
00:37:01.720 most doctors
00:37:02.960 had skill at
00:37:04.640 data analysis
00:37:05.480 and persuasion?
00:37:07.520 Because I
00:37:08.100 don't think
00:37:08.600 most doctors
00:37:09.500 are statisticians
00:37:11.160 and I don't
00:37:12.640 think most
00:37:13.100 doctors have
00:37:13.960 ever taken a
00:37:14.560 course in
00:37:14.980 persuasion.
00:37:16.940 And so
00:37:18.200 we've got the
00:37:18.880 people who
00:37:19.300 are in
00:37:19.600 charge who
00:37:21.140 can't read
00:37:21.740 the data and
00:37:23.640 we know that
00:37:24.140 for sure because
00:37:24.860 they come to
00:37:25.400 different conclusions.
00:37:27.160 If all doctors
00:37:28.500 came to the
00:37:29.140 same conclusion,
00:37:30.720 I'd say,
00:37:31.240 well, they
00:37:31.540 must be pretty
00:37:32.080 good at
00:37:32.340 reading data.
00:37:33.740 But if they
00:37:34.140 come to
00:37:34.420 different
00:37:34.740 conclusions,
00:37:36.140 which is
00:37:36.520 typical,
00:37:38.240 what do you
00:37:39.440 do with
00:37:39.700 that?
00:37:40.740 So let
00:37:42.300 me give
00:37:43.020 you some
00:37:45.180 actual examples
00:37:46.300 of what
00:37:46.960 problems that
00:37:47.640 causes.
00:37:48.040 All right.
00:37:50.960 So because
00:37:52.080 doctors are not
00:37:53.080 good at
00:37:53.380 persuasion and
00:37:54.360 data, we're
00:37:56.220 still talking
00:37:56.760 about ivermectin
00:37:57.820 and hydroxychloroquine.
00:38:00.120 If doctors
00:38:01.560 could read data,
00:38:04.600 no, I'm not
00:38:05.520 high, but
00:38:06.040 thanks for
00:38:07.240 assuming.
00:38:07.980 If doctors
00:38:08.880 could read data
00:38:09.940 and they
00:38:11.580 were good
00:38:11.820 at it and
00:38:12.860 they were
00:38:13.180 persuasive,
00:38:14.740 would we be
00:38:15.400 talking about
00:38:15.980 ivermectin and
00:38:17.040 hydroxychloroquine?
00:38:19.240 Probably not.
00:38:20.880 Probably not,
00:38:21.640 right?
00:38:21.860 Because the
00:38:22.200 doctors would
00:38:22.780 all look at
00:38:23.220 the data.
00:38:23.740 They'd all
00:38:24.020 come to the
00:38:24.440 same conclusion.
00:38:25.780 They would
00:38:26.400 persuasively tell
00:38:27.420 you what that
00:38:27.900 conclusion was and
00:38:29.600 you would say
00:38:30.080 to yourself,
00:38:30.760 oh, that
00:38:31.100 sounds pretty
00:38:31.500 good.
00:38:32.560 Doctors all
00:38:33.240 agree.
00:38:34.280 They've now
00:38:34.860 told us what's
00:38:35.600 going on.
00:38:36.180 We agree.
00:38:36.680 So that
00:38:38.400 problem would
00:38:38.940 maybe be
00:38:40.060 better.
00:38:42.280 Remember I
00:38:43.000 told you there
00:38:43.460 was the
00:38:43.800 doctor, Dr.
00:38:44.820 Corey, who
00:38:45.280 was talking
00:38:45.620 about there
00:38:46.040 were 31
00:38:46.860 randomized
00:38:47.820 controlled trials
00:38:49.200 that say
00:38:49.680 ivermectin
00:38:50.320 works?
00:38:51.760 Well, what's
00:38:52.200 the counter
00:38:52.700 to that?
00:38:54.120 Can you
00:38:54.500 imagine that
00:38:55.080 there could
00:38:55.500 be?
00:38:56.640 How do
00:38:57.120 you counter
00:38:57.880 31
00:38:59.640 randomized
00:39:01.080 controlled
00:39:01.880 trials on
00:39:02.640 ivermectin
00:39:03.260 that collectively
00:39:04.620 show it
00:39:05.160 works really
00:39:05.960 well?
00:39:06.680 How can
00:39:07.240 you possibly
00:39:07.920 argue against
00:39:08.960 that?
00:39:10.360 Well, Andres
00:39:11.120 Beckhaus does
00:39:11.940 effectively by
00:39:14.520 pointing out
00:39:15.120 that if you
00:39:15.620 remove the
00:39:16.940 studies that
00:39:17.540 are known
00:39:18.020 to be low
00:39:18.660 quality for
00:39:19.720 reasons that
00:39:20.480 would be
00:39:21.240 objectively
00:39:21.780 observable,
00:39:23.920 if you took
00:39:25.020 out the ones
00:39:25.440 you know are
00:39:26.000 low quality,
00:39:27.720 it reverses
00:39:28.520 the result.
00:39:32.420 So, what
00:39:34.480 the hell do
00:39:34.980 you do with
00:39:35.400 that?
00:39:36.680 Do you
00:39:37.040 take the
00:39:37.500 meta-analysis
00:39:38.480 which says,
00:39:39.680 all right, we
00:39:40.160 know a lot
00:39:40.600 of these
00:39:40.860 studies are
00:39:41.360 low quality,
00:39:42.240 but if you
00:39:42.760 look at them
00:39:43.120 all together,
00:39:45.060 they may be
00:39:45.800 low quality for
00:39:46.720 different reasons,
00:39:47.620 and therefore the
00:39:48.740 studies sort of
00:39:50.120 cancel out their
00:39:50.880 flaws, and you
00:39:52.300 can see overall,
00:39:53.260 hey, every time
00:39:54.260 you look at the
00:39:55.520 overall, it looks
00:39:56.360 like it works.
00:39:56.980 studies, but if
00:39:59.300 the only reason
00:40:00.220 that the
00:40:00.680 meta-analysis
00:40:01.420 works is that
00:40:03.240 a whole bunch
00:40:04.180 of the studies
00:40:04.740 were bad,
00:40:07.480 there may just
00:40:10.820 be some big
00:40:11.480 problems with
00:40:12.100 the data.
00:40:13.200 So, if you
00:40:14.500 remove the
00:40:14.980 low quality
00:40:15.440 studies, it
00:40:16.080 reverses it.
00:40:17.340 Now, here's
00:40:18.220 the problem.
00:40:19.560 Who gets to
00:40:20.400 decide which
00:40:21.620 studies are
00:40:22.320 low quality?
00:40:24.280 Right?
00:40:25.340 Right?
00:40:26.480 It turns out
00:40:27.240 that this is
00:40:27.880 like, it looks
00:40:28.960 like it's
00:40:29.380 science, but if
00:40:31.380 you can choose
00:40:32.260 the studies you
00:40:33.140 like and ignore
00:40:34.380 the ones you
00:40:34.920 don't like, is
00:40:37.080 it science?
00:40:38.060 Or is it just
00:40:38.920 people using
00:40:39.440 their opinion and
00:40:40.380 rationalizing it
00:40:41.260 with whatever
00:40:41.740 data they want?
00:40:44.220 All right,
00:40:45.000 suppose doctors
00:40:46.940 were good at
00:40:47.520 persuasion and
00:40:48.500 data analysis.
00:40:49.460 There's an
00:40:49.760 article today by
00:40:51.460 Dr. David
00:40:52.140 Nickel in
00:40:53.740 the Mail Plus.
00:40:55.100 I tweeted it.
00:40:56.920 He refers to,
00:40:58.260 when he talks
00:40:58.920 about ivermectin,
00:41:00.660 he says,
00:41:01.320 he says,
00:41:03.320 quote, in an
00:41:03.980 article he wrote,
00:41:05.160 what ivermectin
00:41:05.960 is not in any
00:41:07.100 way suitable
00:41:07.820 or licensed
00:41:08.800 for is the
00:41:10.080 treatment of
00:41:10.680 coronavirus.
00:41:12.160 So he says
00:41:12.660 ivermectin is
00:41:13.420 not suitable
00:41:14.100 or licensed.
00:41:15.820 And of course,
00:41:16.840 he says,
00:41:17.380 any sane
00:41:18.060 person may
00:41:19.560 see that as
00:41:20.320 obvious.
00:41:22.400 So he's a
00:41:23.240 doctor who
00:41:23.780 says that any
00:41:24.400 sane person,
00:41:25.160 not a doctor,
00:41:26.380 are there any
00:41:26.960 sane people
00:41:27.480 watching?
00:41:27.820 If you are
00:41:29.380 sane, do you
00:41:31.200 buy his
00:41:31.700 comment that
00:41:32.440 it's obvious
00:41:33.560 because the
00:41:37.240 drug, the way
00:41:37.940 the drug works
00:41:38.740 is it damages
00:41:39.800 the nerves of
00:41:40.960 parasites.
00:41:42.700 But a virus is
00:41:43.860 not a parasite.
00:41:44.480 And it's far
00:41:47.140 too tiny to
00:41:47.720 have nerves.
00:41:49.040 So this
00:41:49.680 doctor says,
00:41:50.480 Dr. David
00:41:51.040 Nickel, he
00:41:52.380 says, anybody
00:41:53.500 could see that
00:41:54.820 ivermectin
00:41:55.500 couldn't possibly
00:41:56.600 work against
00:41:58.060 the virus because
00:41:59.480 the way ivermectin
00:42:00.520 works doesn't
00:42:02.000 even apply because
00:42:04.220 the virus doesn't
00:42:04.960 have any nerves
00:42:05.540 to damage.
00:42:06.580 So how can it
00:42:07.480 work?
00:42:08.380 We know it
00:42:09.180 works against
00:42:09.660 parasites because
00:42:10.640 they have nerves
00:42:11.140 to damage.
00:42:11.660 But how could
00:42:12.740 it possibly
00:42:13.460 work, this
00:42:14.280 doctor says,
00:42:15.380 and it's
00:42:15.740 obvious and
00:42:16.480 anybody can
00:42:17.380 see it because
00:42:18.460 it's designed
00:42:19.280 to work in a
00:42:19.960 different way
00:42:20.660 than would be
00:42:21.920 even applicable
00:42:22.460 to a virus.
00:42:25.880 How does
00:42:26.580 this doctor
00:42:27.240 explain,
00:42:29.740 yeah there,
00:42:30.460 Eric, you're
00:42:30.940 ahead of me,
00:42:32.040 how does the
00:42:32.560 doctor explain
00:42:33.260 that ivermectin
00:42:33.960 works in vitro,
00:42:35.940 that it works
00:42:36.400 in a test tube?
00:42:38.800 It's killing
00:42:39.500 something,
00:42:40.360 right?
00:42:41.660 Now the
00:42:42.380 in vitro,
00:42:43.220 the test tube
00:42:43.920 test, doesn't
00:42:45.420 tell you it
00:42:45.920 works in humans
00:42:46.640 because there
00:42:48.380 are lots and
00:42:49.240 lots of cases
00:42:49.840 where it works
00:42:50.840 in a test tube,
00:42:51.520 it doesn't
00:42:51.740 work in humans.
00:42:52.820 In fact, I
00:42:53.440 think most
00:42:53.800 often, I
00:42:55.300 think it
00:42:55.580 usually doesn't
00:42:56.380 work in humans
00:42:56.980 if it does
00:42:57.620 work in a
00:42:58.060 test tube.
00:42:59.000 Is that
00:42:59.260 true?
00:43:00.280 Give me a
00:43:01.720 fact check on
00:43:03.140 that.
00:43:05.500 But,
00:43:07.080 yeah,
00:43:11.660 if we
00:43:13.320 know it
00:43:13.640 works in
00:43:14.080 vitro,
00:43:14.720 his argument
00:43:15.300 that we
00:43:16.060 don't have
00:43:16.500 any mechanism
00:43:17.220 for how it
00:43:17.880 works is a
00:43:18.520 moot point.
00:43:19.880 So do you
00:43:20.280 trust this
00:43:20.780 doctor who
00:43:22.020 tells you
00:43:22.400 there's no
00:43:22.860 mechanism for
00:43:23.740 ivermectin to
00:43:24.520 work at the
00:43:25.480 same time you
00:43:26.080 know it does
00:43:26.680 work in the
00:43:27.980 laboratory?
00:43:29.280 He's got to
00:43:29.960 explain that,
00:43:31.260 right?
00:43:31.660 If he doesn't
00:43:32.460 at least explain
00:43:33.340 why it works
00:43:34.040 in vitro,
00:43:35.380 he needs to
00:43:37.300 just stop
00:43:37.840 talking,
00:43:38.380 right?
00:43:39.760 Now, it
00:43:40.040 could be
00:43:40.260 that just
00:43:40.540 everything works
00:43:41.200 in vitro.
00:43:42.300 I feel like
00:43:42.820 you could
00:43:43.100 take a piss
00:43:43.840 in a COVID
00:43:46.540 petri dish and
00:43:49.640 your piss would
00:43:50.420 kill the
00:43:50.820 COVID, I
00:43:52.200 think.
00:43:53.260 I mean,
00:43:53.620 that's just a
00:43:54.560 random example.
00:43:55.840 Diet Coke?
00:43:57.160 Do you think
00:43:57.540 you could put a
00:43:58.080 little Diet Coke
00:43:58.940 on the virus and
00:44:00.460 it would kill
00:44:00.840 it?
00:44:01.740 Probably.
00:44:03.480 Probably,
00:44:04.340 right?
00:44:04.880 So it doesn't
00:44:05.600 really mean that
00:44:06.200 much that it
00:44:06.780 works in a test
00:44:07.420 tube.
00:44:07.600 However,
00:44:09.000 this doctor
00:44:09.720 says there's
00:44:10.320 no mechanism
00:44:10.960 for it to
00:44:11.520 work.
00:44:12.300 Clearly,
00:44:12.880 there is.
00:44:13.900 Clearly,
00:44:14.460 there's a
00:44:14.780 mechanism because
00:44:15.420 it works in
00:44:15.860 vitro.
00:44:16.500 So he at
00:44:17.300 least has to
00:44:17.780 explain that.
00:44:19.280 Now,
00:44:20.020 he's trying to
00:44:20.700 persuade us.
00:44:22.540 Are you
00:44:22.980 persuaded by
00:44:23.840 a doctor who
00:44:25.420 ignores the
00:44:26.120 fact that
00:44:26.540 ivermectin
00:44:27.120 definitely works
00:44:27.920 in vitro?
00:44:30.420 No,
00:44:31.220 because he's
00:44:31.800 leaving out the
00:44:32.400 thing you know
00:44:33.120 that you think
00:44:34.460 matters.
00:44:35.900 That's a
00:44:36.700 problem with
00:44:37.240 persuasion.
00:44:38.420 You have to
00:44:39.160 address the
00:44:40.040 things that
00:44:40.580 people know
00:44:41.080 to be true
00:44:41.640 or you
00:44:42.340 can't convince
00:44:42.980 them.
00:44:43.980 You have to
00:44:44.820 say what
00:44:45.520 the person
00:44:47.500 you're trying
00:44:47.920 to convince,
00:44:49.380 if they
00:44:49.960 believe
00:44:50.560 something's
00:44:51.560 true,
00:44:52.240 you have to
00:44:53.020 specifically
00:44:53.920 address it.
00:44:55.060 You can't
00:44:55.480 just ignore
00:44:55.940 it or you
00:44:57.220 just look like
00:44:57.800 a liar if
00:44:59.200 you ignore
00:44:59.640 the argument
00:45:00.220 and try to
00:45:01.180 make a point
00:45:01.600 without addressing
00:45:02.880 the main
00:45:03.300 argument.
00:45:03.660 All right,
00:45:05.460 here's what
00:45:05.920 else he
00:45:06.220 says.
00:45:07.300 He refers
00:45:07.840 to ivermectin
00:45:08.720 as, quote,
00:45:10.680 horse medicine.
00:45:13.420 If a
00:45:14.140 doctor, an
00:45:15.380 actual medical
00:45:16.300 doctor, refers
00:45:18.660 to ivermectin,
00:45:19.960 which we know
00:45:20.680 is something
00:45:21.480 that's used
00:45:22.020 for both
00:45:22.500 humans in
00:45:23.220 some cases
00:45:23.840 and animals
00:45:25.020 in different
00:45:25.500 cases, if he
00:45:27.080 refers to it
00:45:27.820 in his
00:45:28.180 persuasion as
00:45:28.960 horse medicine,
00:45:29.680 should you
00:45:31.160 listen to
00:45:31.620 anything else
00:45:32.320 he says?
00:45:33.700 Nope.
00:45:34.500 Nope.
00:45:35.400 Because he's
00:45:36.160 talking like
00:45:36.780 the people
00:45:37.160 that are
00:45:37.460 already
00:45:37.720 convinced.
00:45:39.200 If your
00:45:39.840 doctor is
00:45:40.360 trying to
00:45:40.740 convince you
00:45:41.220 not to
00:45:41.700 take
00:45:41.920 ivermectin
00:45:42.640 and he
00:45:44.120 calls it
00:45:44.460 horse medicine,
00:45:45.720 what's the
00:45:46.400 first thing
00:45:46.920 you think
00:45:47.320 about that
00:45:47.740 doctor?
00:45:49.320 Fucking
00:45:49.720 idiot.
00:45:51.260 Right?
00:45:51.860 Two words.
00:45:52.800 Fucking
00:45:53.100 idiot.
00:45:54.400 Would you
00:45:54.980 listen to
00:45:55.500 anything else
00:45:56.360 a doctor
00:45:56.780 said after
00:45:58.620 calling ivermectin
00:45:59.660 horse medicine?
00:46:01.440 You would
00:46:01.800 not.
00:46:03.060 Everything
00:46:03.500 said after
00:46:04.960 the two
00:46:05.620 words horse
00:46:06.220 medicine should
00:46:07.600 be discounted
00:46:09.380 because whoever
00:46:10.540 says that is a
00:46:11.520 fucking idiot.
00:46:12.920 Because you
00:46:13.280 know it's
00:46:13.600 both a human
00:46:14.320 drug and a
00:46:15.560 horse drug and
00:46:16.220 it's a little
00:46:16.800 different.
00:46:18.540 So this is
00:46:20.640 a real good
00:46:21.280 case of where
00:46:22.200 doctors are not
00:46:23.140 taught persuasion.
00:46:24.960 This doctor
00:46:25.700 needed to say
00:46:26.540 that ivermectin
00:46:27.460 is used for
00:46:28.120 humans.
00:46:28.520 This doctor
00:46:29.840 needed to say
00:46:30.560 there were
00:46:30.920 31 randomized
00:46:32.420 controlled trials
00:46:33.860 that shows it
00:46:34.500 works.
00:46:35.180 This doctor
00:46:35.800 needed to say
00:46:36.680 that there was
00:46:38.540 a meta-analysis
00:46:39.380 that suggests
00:46:40.060 it works.
00:46:40.940 He needed to
00:46:41.620 say all of
00:46:42.200 those things.
00:46:43.900 And then,
00:46:45.160 having said
00:46:45.780 those things,
00:46:47.160 I will listen
00:46:48.440 to his
00:46:48.780 argument of
00:46:51.160 why he thinks
00:46:51.760 ivermectin
00:46:52.340 isn't the
00:46:52.880 answer.
00:46:53.980 Now, he
00:46:54.420 doesn't actually
00:46:55.020 ever give a
00:46:55.560 reason.
00:46:55.800 so i don't
00:46:57.400 think he
00:46:57.680 had one.
00:46:59.120 But, you
00:47:01.400 know, and
00:47:01.700 he's even
00:47:02.080 acting as
00:47:02.680 though he
00:47:03.960 couldn't
00:47:04.360 prescribe
00:47:04.880 something unless
00:47:05.660 it was
00:47:06.040 approved for
00:47:06.880 their purpose.
00:47:08.260 Would you
00:47:08.980 listen to a
00:47:09.680 doctor, a
00:47:11.620 doctor, who
00:47:13.020 told you that
00:47:13.960 they can't
00:47:14.500 prescribe
00:47:14.900 something unless
00:47:16.700 it was approved
00:47:17.340 for their
00:47:17.680 purpose?
00:47:18.100 I mean, I'm
00:47:19.920 not a doctor
00:47:20.820 and I know
00:47:21.260 you can do
00:47:21.740 that, right?
00:47:24.300 Don't all of
00:47:24.960 you know you
00:47:25.460 can do that?
00:47:26.820 I think everyone
00:47:27.580 on here knows
00:47:28.180 a doctor can
00:47:28.840 prescribe something
00:47:29.860 as long as the
00:47:31.160 doctor's judgment,
00:47:32.700 you know, has a
00:47:33.300 reason, there's a
00:47:34.080 medical theory to
00:47:35.680 it, and it looks
00:47:36.720 like the risk-reward
00:47:37.740 makes sense.
00:47:39.060 Of course they
00:47:39.700 can.
00:47:40.940 So, this is the
00:47:43.060 least persuasive
00:47:44.320 doctor I've ever
00:47:45.440 seen.
00:47:45.820 Now, he's probably
00:47:46.280 a smart guy.
00:47:47.000 How do you
00:47:48.100 become a doctor
00:47:48.720 unless you're
00:47:49.200 smart, right?
00:47:50.240 So, there's no
00:47:51.780 question that
00:47:52.280 doctors are
00:47:52.860 smart.
00:48:00.320 But they
00:48:00.880 don't know
00:48:01.180 persuasion, and
00:48:01.940 maybe they
00:48:02.300 should.
00:48:05.260 The study I
00:48:06.200 told you about
00:48:06.760 masks had two
00:48:08.620 parts to it, and
00:48:09.240 I left out one
00:48:09.860 part.
00:48:10.740 First of all,
00:48:11.380 don't believe any
00:48:12.020 mask study, just
00:48:14.540 in general.
00:48:15.640 Just don't
00:48:16.080 believe anything.
00:48:17.000 Don't believe any
00:48:18.100 vaccine study, don't
00:48:19.420 believe any mask
00:48:20.140 study, don't believe
00:48:21.120 any ivermectin
00:48:22.060 study, just don't
00:48:23.240 believe anything on
00:48:23.920 the internet, because
00:48:25.420 the odds of a big
00:48:26.060 ride are small.
00:48:27.600 But, I should say
00:48:28.720 that the study that
00:48:30.140 shows that masks do
00:48:31.500 work did not show
00:48:34.940 that mandates work.
00:48:37.120 Got that?
00:48:38.600 It showed that from
00:48:39.820 a physical sense,
00:48:41.780 masks, according to
00:48:43.360 their research, make a
00:48:44.940 difference, and a
00:48:45.640 pretty big difference.
00:48:46.940 But, there was no
00:48:48.460 correlation between
00:48:50.340 the mandates and
00:48:53.060 a good effect.
00:48:54.600 Because, apparently,
00:48:55.680 people either wear
00:48:56.640 them or not in the
00:48:57.520 right situation, just
00:48:59.220 sort of naturally.
00:49:00.820 Let me say it a
00:49:01.520 different way.
00:49:02.720 Even if you did not
00:49:03.860 have a mask mandate
00:49:05.100 during a pandemic, you'd
00:49:06.960 probably wear a mask to
00:49:08.220 visit your grandmother in
00:49:09.480 the old folks'
00:49:10.100 home, right?
00:49:10.820 even without a
00:49:12.380 mandate.
00:49:13.460 So, it could be that
00:49:14.280 the mandate doesn't
00:49:15.700 add enough, because
00:49:17.260 people are already
00:49:17.960 using their judgment
00:49:18.940 and risk management in
00:49:21.320 a right enough way
00:49:23.140 that they're doing all
00:49:24.700 the important ones.
00:49:26.220 You know, they may be
00:49:26.960 doing everything that's
00:49:27.900 important and maybe
00:49:28.900 slacking on the less
00:49:30.240 important stuff, such
00:49:31.500 as not wearing a mask
00:49:33.200 outdoors.
00:49:35.440 Maybe.
00:49:36.200 That's just speculation
00:49:37.200 again.
00:49:37.620 Yeah, as Billy
00:49:41.120 Mandalay points out, a
00:49:42.480 mask mandate, a little
00:49:44.940 bit of sexist.
00:49:46.440 Couldn't it be a
00:49:47.040 person date?
00:49:48.740 Yeah, it could be.
00:49:49.820 It could be a people
00:49:50.500 date.
00:49:52.040 All right, I'm going to
00:49:52.760 go do some other
00:49:53.600 stuff, as long as I've
00:49:55.960 covered all my topics,
00:49:57.160 and I have.
00:49:58.520 And I would say today
00:49:59.640 was, once again, an
00:50:04.080 amazing, amazing live
00:50:05.660 stream.
00:50:06.380 Better than usual.
00:50:08.240 Gets better every time.
00:50:09.840 And I will talk to you
00:50:10.800 tomorrow.
00:50:11.620 Thank you.
00:50:11.820 Thank you.