Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1508 Scott Adams： Lots of Red Meat Stories About Politics Today and the Simultaneous SIP

00:00:00.000 Good morning, everybody, and welcome to probably the best thing you'll ever experience.

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00:01:08.960 John says it's his first day of sipping, but he's been listening for months.

00:01:13.240 Oh, there are others like you, aren't there?

00:01:16.400 There are other people watching who are thinking to themselves, I'm not going to do the sip.

00:01:20.480 Okay, I'll watch the content.

00:01:22.480 But I'm not going to do the simultaneous sip.

00:01:25.120 Don't manipulate me, hypnotist.

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00:01:49.040 I feel sorry for the people who aren't doing this.

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00:01:55.960 Don't.

00:01:56.660 Yeah, don't do it.

00:01:57.920 Don't be manipulated into it.

00:01:59.820 No matter how good it is.

00:02:01.680 No matter how much you would enjoy it.

00:02:03.860 Do not let me manipulate you into taking a sip of a delicious beverage just because I want you to.

00:02:09.980 Oh, that's no reason.

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00:02:22.580 This goes down just as good as it goes past the taste buds.

00:02:26.380 But don't do this.

00:02:28.220 You do you.

00:02:29.840 Enjoy it.

00:02:31.200 You know, everybody's different.

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00:02:33.860 One more.

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00:02:39.060 Wow.

00:02:40.240 Yeah, but you do you.

00:02:43.180 All right, let's get to the news.

00:02:45.780 Rasmussen tells us just what I expected.

00:02:50.000 Do you know what kind of polls I like?

00:02:52.480 The kind of polls I like are the ones that agree with me.

00:02:58.280 Those are the good ones.

00:02:59.860 The ones that don't agree with me, I call those bogus.

00:03:02.180 But the ones that agree with me, pretty, pretty accurate.

00:03:06.040 Well, Rasmussen has a poll that says, if Trump ran against Biden today, do you know how he'd do?

00:03:14.060 Well, according to registered likely voters, 51% would vote for Trump.

00:03:20.720 And only 41% would vote for Biden.

00:03:24.540 Mrap, mrap, mrap.

00:03:26.000 Now, who told you, who told you that Trump would get more popular after he left office?

00:03:35.120 I did.

00:03:36.220 And it's happening.

00:03:37.360 Because you're going to forget all the individual outrages, because there were so many of them.

00:03:41.860 They all just sort of lumped together.

00:03:43.720 But you're going to remember what he did.

00:03:46.000 You're going to remember the border was better.

00:03:48.460 The economy was good.

00:03:51.200 China was, you know, being pushed back.

00:03:53.180 You're going to remember all that.

00:03:56.180 Now, I worry about a poll where people have just two choices here.

00:04:01.140 Because I think, you know, I think people probably would just vote their party line in the end.

00:04:06.580 But suppose Trump ran against Harris.

00:04:09.660 According to Rasmussen, 52% would say Trump.

00:04:14.460 39% would say Harris.

00:04:16.360 So the two strongest Democrats in the world, in the country, let's say, would both lose to Trump if they had an election today.

00:04:30.280 So, I would say my prediction that Trump would grow in popularity once out of office is kind of looking good.

00:04:40.780 It's kind of looking good.

00:04:41.960 I think there's another level after this.

00:04:43.780 I think the level after this is where we've really forgotten, you know, all the acrimony and, you know, the mean tweets and stuff.

00:04:53.020 I think that the distant historians are going to be the kindest to Trump.

00:04:59.000 Because his accomplishments will last and his outrages will seem unimportant.

00:05:03.960 All right.

00:05:07.260 Glenn Greenwald continues to be one of the best follows on Twitter and one of the most interesting public characters, I would say.

00:05:15.940 So if you're not following Glenn Greenwald, you're really missing a good show.

00:05:20.400 I mean, his Twitter feed is, like, I would pay for it.

00:05:25.100 You know, it's almost subscription quality compared to other tweets.

00:05:29.840 But he says today that, in a tweet, huge numbers of corporate media outlets have spent weeks peddling an outright lie from the CIA that the Biden emails were, quote, Russian disinformation.

00:05:44.200 Do you remember that?

00:05:45.520 Do you remember when all the talking heads were saying, oh, those emails, that's probably Russian disinformation.

00:05:52.280 So Glenn says that was the CIA gaslighting the country.

00:05:59.500 And as Greenwald says, and now we'll ignore the fact that one of their own, a Politico reporter, just published a book definitively debunking their lies.

00:06:10.400 So Politico, I don't know who it is, but some Politico reporter has a book, I guess.

00:06:14.320 And Greenwald goes on, he says, these are the same people who spread the CIA lie that Russians put bounties on the heads of U.S. soldiers and Trump did nothing about it.

00:06:26.260 Same people who spread the now debunked Trump alpha bank lie.

00:06:30.740 That was the idea that there was some kind of private server that Trump had that was connected to some bank, which somehow I didn't even, I didn't even see that story when it happened originally.

00:06:42.840 Now, what do you think?

00:06:45.740 Do you believe, is it true or false?

00:06:48.900 I want to see any of your comments, true or false?

00:06:52.000 Do you believe that the CIA planted all three of these stories?

00:07:00.640 And he doesn't even mention Russian collusion.

00:07:04.620 You know, the Trump collusion story.

00:07:07.260 Doesn't even mention that one.

00:07:09.060 Was that CIA?

00:07:10.640 So in the comments, how many of you believe it?

00:07:15.000 I'm seeing only yeses.

00:07:17.320 I see one no on locals.

00:07:19.460 I see a maybe.

00:07:21.600 Well, it looks like YouTube is very much believing it.

00:07:25.260 And locals, too.

00:07:26.740 Looking at both platforms, your comments.

00:07:29.280 Yeah, you do believe it, don't you?

00:07:30.360 So, here you are in a country in which your most important industry to protect your freedom,

00:07:40.440 which is the press, you believe doesn't exist.

00:07:47.020 You okay with that?

00:07:48.800 Are you okay with that?

00:07:50.820 Yeah, you can throw in the FBI, I guess, as part of this.

00:07:53.720 How are we okay with the fact that the CIA is making up stories and the corporate press is just printing them like it's real?

00:08:09.320 Could that be a more dangerous situation?

00:08:12.320 Have we already lost everything?

00:08:14.260 But it's weird because when you say the CIA did something, is it always the same people?

00:08:22.480 Is it the head of the CIA who makes these decisions?

00:08:25.680 Or is it just people associated with, you know, people making up their own projects?

00:08:32.620 How has this happened?

00:08:33.620 Well, it feels real to me.

00:08:38.840 To me, it feels real that the news is not real.

00:08:42.780 And that at least the political parts, a lot of it, are just literally just made up by our own CIA.

00:08:50.540 Now, can I prove it?

00:08:51.960 Nah.

00:08:52.920 I don't have any proof.

00:08:55.220 But you've seen, yeah, you've seen Clapper and Brennan on TV lying to the public.

00:09:01.460 You've seen that.

00:09:02.140 So, I don't think you trust these entities whatsoever.

00:09:07.100 Now, here's a question for you.

00:09:09.600 The media.

00:09:11.800 I would say the media has two major forums at this point.

00:09:20.400 One of the forums is, you know, the regular legacy media, the Fox News and CNNs and stuff.

00:09:28.640 But the other part of the media is people like me.

00:09:32.140 Pundits.

00:09:34.760 If you believe that all of the major media legacy platforms have been, let's say, captured by the CIA,

00:09:42.540 if you believe that's the case, what about the independent voices?

00:09:47.100 What about the people that you follow on Twitter who have, you know, gigantic followings

00:09:50.900 and seem to be independent voices?

00:09:54.080 Has the CIA also captured them?

00:09:58.160 What do you think?

00:10:01.560 Has the CIA captured the independent political voices, the people with just social media followings?

00:10:08.580 Yeah, you're a little worried now, aren't you?

00:10:14.580 A little bit worried now?

00:10:17.260 Now, let me ask you this.

00:10:19.720 Do you think I know the answer to that question definitively?

00:10:22.680 So here's your new question.

00:10:26.360 I'll wait for you to be done answering this because there's a lag here.

00:10:29.980 Do you think that I know the answer to the question of whether the CIA is also co-opting individual voices

00:10:38.740 who are not part of legacy news?

00:10:40.740 Because I would be one of those people, right?

00:10:46.020 So if they had never contacted me, well, let me ask you this.

00:10:52.260 Do you think any intelligence agencies have tried to co-opt me?

00:10:58.240 In your comments, have any intelligence agencies, U.S. or other, tried to co-opt me on politics?

00:11:08.660 Yeah, of course.

00:11:09.600 Yes, the answer is yes.

00:11:13.300 Have they succeeded?

00:11:15.940 Have they succeeded in co-opting me?

00:11:23.140 I'm looking at your answers.

00:11:24.780 You say no, no, no, no.

00:11:28.560 Well, you're wrong.

00:11:30.740 Hate to tell you.

00:11:32.620 They've co-opted me.

00:11:35.040 Now, when I say they've co-opted me,

00:11:36.740 that doesn't mean that I'm, you know, saying anything that I wouldn't normally say.

00:11:41.280 But one of the things that is the subtle way that people like me get influenced

00:11:46.580 is by what stories we see

00:11:49.400 and which ones are brought to our attention.

00:11:52.560 So when I talk about the news, I talk about the things that have come to my attention.

00:11:56.620 How does stuff come to my attention?

00:11:59.460 What do you think is my process for deciding what stories to focus on?

00:12:04.360 No, Scott did not just admit to being a sellout. 0.99

00:12:11.280 Listen to the rest of the fucking story. 0.99

00:12:14.200 Right? 1.00

00:12:14.300 I'm open to hearing your opinions after you've heard it.

00:12:20.000 But maybe wait until after you've heard it and then make your decision.

00:12:24.080 Okay?

00:12:26.220 All right.

00:12:27.440 So here's how people like me decide what the news we're going to talk about is.

00:12:33.220 Often people send me stuff.

00:12:35.520 People, you know, you can see it yourself.

00:12:37.480 You can watch it in real time.

00:12:38.720 You see people tweet things at me.

00:12:41.120 And then I say, oh, that's interesting.

00:12:42.420 And then I talk about it.

00:12:44.300 Do you think that anybody is tweeting at me

00:12:47.300 things they would like me to spend more time on

00:12:50.220 who may or may not be associated with intelligence agencies?

00:12:55.200 So that's the model.

00:12:56.740 How many think that that's happening?

00:12:58.800 That there are people associated with,

00:13:01.400 maybe not on the payroll.

00:13:03.080 I'm not talking people, I'm not talking actual spies.

00:13:07.020 I'm talking people associated with.

00:13:10.200 Because, you know, intelligence agencies

00:13:11.900 don't work with just people they pay.

00:13:14.720 They have an extended family of, you know,

00:13:17.780 connections that do things for them.

00:13:20.700 So I would say that I'm not necessarily aware of who works for who.

00:13:27.780 Well, I can say that for sure.

00:13:30.180 I am not necessarily aware of who works for who.

00:13:33.220 I have some ideas.

00:13:35.180 I have some ideas.

00:13:36.000 If somebody sends me a story that seems to be pro-Israel,

00:13:41.660 do I say to myself, oh, I wonder who this person is.

00:13:45.920 And I wonder if they have any connections with, you know,

00:13:48.600 Israel intelligence or the government.

00:13:51.260 And I often assume they do.

00:13:57.040 But if the story is what I like and it's been brought to my attention,

00:14:01.340 yeah, I'll talk about it.

00:14:02.600 Because it's something I like and it's in my wheelhouse

00:14:05.640 and it's what I would have talked about anyway.

00:14:07.760 And I know about it.

00:14:08.940 So I talk about it.

00:14:10.100 So it works.

00:14:12.020 The way that somebody like me can be influenced

00:14:14.340 is just by what stories I talk about.

00:14:16.840 So I believe that some number of stories that get sent to me

00:14:21.100 through a variety of channels,

00:14:23.200 you know, usually individuals who say,

00:14:24.700 hey, I think you'd be interested in this.

00:14:26.800 Some number of them are intelligence agency connected.

00:14:31.200 Now, some of them I know, meaning I know they're connected.

00:14:34.320 And some of them I assume they're connected.

00:14:37.580 So I use that filter when I see stuff.

00:14:39.600 So, you know, there's no time when I don't say to myself,

00:14:44.180 why did somebody give this to me, right?

00:14:47.100 So at the very least, I'm aware of it.

00:14:50.480 And I try to do what I can to, you know, monitor my own bias.

00:14:55.320 But can I succeed at that?

00:14:56.620 I don't think so.

00:14:57.780 I don't think you can completely succeed at that.

00:15:00.560 I'm not talking about any one person.

00:15:03.800 There's a universe of, you know, maybe 20 to 50 people

00:15:08.160 who might send me things.

00:15:10.580 On any given topic.

00:15:12.040 And I just assume that they have some connections

00:15:14.280 or some, say, affinity for different countries.

00:15:22.360 All right.

00:15:24.420 Are there any major media outlets that are captured by our CIA?

00:15:28.020 What do you think?

00:15:29.500 Are there any major media companies that are not captured by the CIA?

00:15:37.400 Do you think?

00:15:38.840 And what would it be?

00:15:40.280 Somebody says CNN.

00:15:41.260 Okay, I hope that's a joke, right?

00:15:45.080 Because CNN would not be on the top of my list of non-captured entities.

00:15:50.980 Yeah, you know, I don't know.

00:15:52.620 I don't know the answer to that.

00:15:53.760 Because it's always a matter of degree, right?

00:15:57.840 It's not so much that, you know, something is completely captured and something is not.

00:16:03.760 I think it's all a matter of degree.

00:16:05.100 Yeah.

00:16:08.100 Yeah.

00:16:08.580 And I would say that the independent political voices, such as myself, I think we're trying

00:16:15.060 to be independent for the most part.

00:16:17.320 I mean, I speak for myself.

00:16:19.120 But we have to be influenced.

00:16:20.820 I mean, you can't turn off influence.

00:16:24.600 If somebody tries to influence you and they're good at it, it's probably going to work.

00:16:31.060 My friends with Bob Dole, that is the weirdest question in the world.

00:16:34.960 I've never met Bob Dole.

00:16:37.640 But how weird.

00:16:41.460 All right.

00:16:43.220 Black Lives Matter, BLM is threatening an uprising against what they call the racist vaccine mandates.

00:16:50.820 Did you see that coming?

00:16:53.140 The racist vaccine mandates.

00:16:56.020 Because I guess since the black population has low vaccination rates, it would be a bigger burden on them if vaccination mandates are required.

00:17:07.060 BLM might actually go to the streets about that. 1.00

00:17:10.660 But here's the weird thing.

00:17:16.280 Can Black Lives Matter agree with the Republicans this aggressively?

00:17:20.820 And what happens if they do?

00:17:23.340 What would happen if, I'm just going to put this out here.

00:17:27.400 This could actually happen.

00:17:29.640 Imagine a Black Lives Matter rally against vaccine mandates.

00:17:35.100 So just imagine that happens.

00:17:37.220 And then imagine that conservatives say, we're in.

00:17:42.640 We're in.

00:17:43.660 And there are just as many conservatives that show up, clearly conservatives.

00:17:47.280 Like you could just look at them and go, okay, that's probably a Trump supporter there.

00:17:51.320 And watch them march at the same time with Black Lives Matter.

00:17:55.360 Because they have a shared idea on this one topic.

00:18:00.060 Could that happen?

00:18:00.920 Could it?

00:18:04.320 Why wouldn't it happen?

00:18:05.820 What would stop it from happening?

00:18:07.900 Would anything stop it from happening?

00:18:10.020 In fact, I would say that the main reason that Black Lives Matter will not go to the streets is that Republicans will join them. 1.00

00:18:19.800 It's the main reason I don't think it's going to happen.

00:18:27.580 Because Black Lives Matter, their whole deal kind of falls apart if they go to the street and 5,000 conservatives join them. 0.98

00:18:38.960 And just say, we're with you.

00:18:40.640 Boom.

00:18:41.140 We're with you.

00:18:41.760 That's it.

00:18:42.140 No arguments.

00:18:44.860 No fighting.

00:18:46.160 We're with you.

00:18:47.640 Now, I'm not sure this is the fight that I would recommend anybody be in.

00:18:53.080 That's a separate topic.

00:18:54.720 But it could be.

00:18:55.740 Could be.

00:18:56.280 Could be strange bedfellows.

00:18:58.600 And I would tell you that the next thing that Black Lives Matter and conservatives might agree on is school choice and the problems with the teachers' unions.

00:19:09.520 Again, there's pretty much complete agreement that we need more school choice.

00:19:13.920 It's a conservative thing and it's a black interest thing. 0.70

00:19:19.040 Both would benefit, maybe in different ways, but both would benefit from that kind of change to society.

00:19:27.280 I could see them getting together twice.

00:19:32.700 And the way to do it is to just say that reparations means fixing schools.

00:19:39.320 It's the best you can do.

00:19:40.540 I mean, some people would like reparations to be some kind of cash payment.

00:19:43.320 But since that's never going to happen, I don't think, why don't you do what you can do?

00:19:49.040 What you can do is fix the biggest source of systemic racism, which is the teachers' unions.

00:19:55.360 And the Republicans would be all over that.

00:19:57.940 So Black Lives Matter and Republicans maybe haven't figured it out yet, but they're on the same side on the biggest issue, which you could call reparations.

00:20:08.480 You could call it systemic racism.

00:20:11.280 That's what Black Lives Matter would call it.

00:20:14.360 But the Republicans would call it, where's my freedom?

00:20:17.380 Why can't I go to a school I want to go to or take my kids to an optional, better school?

00:20:24.700 So they'd have different reasons for why they want school choice, but both of them would be getting at better school, right?

00:20:31.440 I mean, I guess it's the same reason in the end, better school.

00:20:34.680 But you would describe it differently in terms of why you want better schools.

00:20:38.340 I don't know, we might be, I'd been predicting for some time that there would be a strange coming together of Black Lives Matter and conservatives.

00:20:49.720 That it was almost inevitable, I feel like.

00:20:55.860 I feel like it's inevitable that the Black population in this country is going to start courting conservatives, partly because they agree on so much.

00:21:08.140 You know, you've got a, at the very least, there's a religious connection, right?

00:21:14.420 You know, highly religious, Black population, pretty religious.

00:21:17.260 Republicans, pretty religious.

00:21:20.040 There's a lot they could come together on.

00:21:22.680 And I feel like it's going to happen.

00:21:25.600 Because it's, you know, as soon as Black Lives Matter realizes that Republicans are not against them,

00:21:31.380 or let's say not against black people, but rather pro-freedom and pro-competition and all those things,

00:21:38.440 I think, I think they can figure it out.

00:21:42.240 They can get together.

00:21:43.980 So I'm going to keep that, that will be my most counterintuitive prediction of all time,

00:21:49.700 although I've got a few good ones lately.

00:21:52.400 I'm going to say that Black Lives Matter will explicitly,

00:21:55.880 so I'm going to put this in the form of a prediction.

00:21:59.500 Black Lives Matter will explicitly join forces with Republicans on at least one topic.

00:22:08.440 Maybe more, because if the first one works, you would do more.

00:22:13.240 But there will be at least one topic where they, I'll go even further.

00:22:17.180 I'm going to make it physical.

00:22:19.060 Here's my prediction.

00:22:20.780 Black Lives Matter and conservatives will march together in the street within two years.

00:22:29.500 That's my prediction.

00:22:30.460 Within two years, Republicans and Black Lives Matter will march together on some topic.

00:22:37.080 Within two years.

00:22:37.820 All right.

00:22:39.960 The debate over nuclear energy has officially ended.

00:22:45.740 Does that even sound possible?

00:22:48.540 The debate over nuclear energy just ended.

00:22:53.540 So Jennifer Granholm, who's the Secretary of Energy, right?

00:23:01.360 She just gave a big speech and made it as clear as you could possibly make it.

00:23:06.680 Climate change is an emergency.

00:23:08.460 This is her framing.

00:23:10.580 And you can't handle it without nuclear.

00:23:14.460 And that nuclear energy is now safer.

00:23:17.040 And that new technologies are safe compared to other things.

00:23:23.720 And you don't need fusion for this.

00:23:25.960 Fusion would be great, but it's not necessary in this model.

00:23:29.180 Now, here's the weird part of the story.

00:23:33.940 I don't know if you remember how much I was trying to get the Trump administration to say as strongly as Jennifer Granholm did,

00:23:44.820 and the nuclear power has to be in the future.

00:23:47.300 It has to be a big part of the future.

00:23:49.480 And the Trump administration was always pro-nuclear.

00:23:53.660 And they did a lot of pro-nuclear things in terms of setting up test sites for nuclear technologies, etc.

00:24:01.440 So they acted right, the Trump administration, but they didn't really make a big deal about it.

00:24:07.640 Trump himself hardly ever mentioned it and certainly never made a big point of it.

00:24:12.340 It was usually just sort of mentioned in a list.

00:24:14.540 But imagine, if you will, that Trump had been pro-nuclear like a big deal.

00:24:23.360 As much as he was build the wall, imagine if Trump had been nuclear, nuclear, nuclear.

00:24:30.420 You've got to build some nuclear.

00:24:33.060 That would have made it impossible for Democrats to do it, wouldn't it?

00:24:37.600 It would be like the wall.

00:24:39.820 The Democrats can't accept a wall even though they want one.

00:24:43.160 Because it was Trump's wall.

00:24:46.060 Am I right?

00:24:47.360 Don't you think there are a lot of Democrats who would kind of like to have a wall now?

00:24:52.860 Not so much that they stop everybody from coming in,

00:24:55.840 but that at least we have the option of regulating it the way we want to regulate it,

00:25:01.720 not the way some entity wants to regulate it.

00:25:04.980 So I feel as if we got to this complete agreement,

00:25:09.360 and I'm going to say complete agreement meaning that Democrats and Republicans

00:25:13.560 are both strongly pro-nuclear now, at least at the higher levels.

00:25:18.400 So I'll call that the agreement.

00:25:20.420 Obviously citizens will take a while to catch up.

00:25:25.120 But this is amazing.

00:25:29.540 And I don't think it would have happened if Trump had been way, way, way more pro-nuclear.

00:25:34.580 I think the only way this could happen is that Trump was kind of quiet about it.

00:25:40.820 Right?

00:25:41.700 Because it's not that polarized as it could have been.

00:25:46.480 So here's my question to you.

00:25:49.000 How did this happen?

00:25:51.220 What happened?

00:25:52.080 What happened in the last, say, five years

00:25:56.320 that made nuclear energy go from a highly polarizing topic

00:26:01.840 to complete agreement?

00:26:06.400 What happened?

00:26:08.520 What do you think happened?

00:26:14.280 I'm just looking at your Schellenberger.

00:26:18.260 Right.

00:26:19.280 I think that's what happened.

00:26:20.820 I think Michael Schellenberger is a big part of the story,

00:26:26.180 but we'll never know how much.

00:26:27.840 So let me complete the pieces here.

00:26:30.800 So many of you know that Mark Schneider was a big advocate of nuclear,

00:26:36.560 worked in the industry, still works in the industry, I think.

00:26:39.480 And he taught me everything I know,

00:26:43.980 and I would talk continuously about nuclear needing to be a bigger deal.

00:26:49.760 Now, also, Michael Schellenberger, who's written books on the topic

00:26:54.060 and included, you know, in books on the topic.

00:26:58.360 And he's testified to Congress twice, I think.

00:27:03.060 At least twice.

00:27:04.880 And if you haven't heard the Michael Schellenberger presentations

00:27:10.340 on all of this green energy stuff and nuclear,

00:27:13.440 you really have to.

00:27:14.340 Because he's got the whole package, right?

00:27:17.000 He's got the whole persuasion package.

00:27:19.620 And I think he sold it to Congress.

00:27:24.400 I mean, they called him in for that purpose,

00:27:26.820 to find out, you know, find out what's what.

00:27:31.320 Now, I see you mentioning Bjorn Lomborg,

00:27:33.800 and he would be the other, you know, biggest name that I can think of

00:27:37.360 in the same category.

00:27:39.200 But I don't know if he testified.

00:27:40.920 Did he ever testify to Congress?

00:27:42.980 Because he's not American. 0.98

00:27:45.160 I don't know if he did.

00:27:46.660 I doubt it.

00:27:48.420 I think I would have remembered hearing it.

00:27:52.500 Anyway,

00:27:52.900 so I'm going to say congratulations

00:27:57.580 to the people who put in the time.

00:28:00.760 I feel like

00:28:01.760 I tried to help as much as possible.

00:28:04.960 I don't know if I did,

00:28:06.460 but I tried.

00:28:08.680 And

00:28:09.160 it looks like it happened.

00:28:11.900 I mean, was there any...

00:28:12.780 Five years ago, if I said to you,

00:28:14.520 if I said to you five years ago,

00:28:16.280 I think we'll have a complete agreement

00:28:18.260 on this nuclear energy thing,

00:28:20.060 would you have believed that?

00:28:21.120 I mean, it seemed like it was something

00:28:23.240 that was just going to be a permanent division.

00:28:26.360 Now, like I said,

00:28:27.260 the public still hasn't caught up.

00:28:29.100 But the fact that both Republicans and Democrats

00:28:31.540 are pro-nuclear now,

00:28:33.580 I mean, that's the end of the debate.

00:28:35.320 Because the public will catch up.

00:28:39.440 Yeah.

00:28:39.680 Somebody says, honestly, it wasn't even on your radar.

00:28:41.920 Yeah, that's true.

00:28:42.940 All right.

00:28:44.440 Fox News,

00:28:45.520 and I'm going to give them credit for this.

00:28:47.440 I don't know if they came up with it.

00:28:49.040 But do you remember when

00:28:50.400 kids in cages was the big story?

00:28:54.140 That kids in cages story

00:28:55.700 was really powerful, wasn't it?

00:28:57.740 Because it wasn't just,

00:28:58.980 oh, immigration is going to be really bad 1.00

00:29:01.000 for a lot of people.

00:29:02.680 That doesn't feel...

00:29:03.800 It's not visual.

00:29:05.160 It doesn't hit you in the feels.

00:29:07.780 But then you say,

00:29:08.800 we're putting kids in cages.

00:29:11.460 Now, was that true?

00:29:14.120 Well, you know, sort of.

00:29:16.160 They were fenced in areas.

00:29:19.900 Calling them cages makes it ten times worse,

00:29:22.860 how it sounds.

00:29:24.240 So, yeah, it was true-ish,

00:29:26.860 ish.

00:29:27.660 You know, you could make the argument.

00:29:29.720 But it was so visual,

00:29:31.180 meaning that you would not only see the pictures of it,

00:29:33.300 some of the pictures were fake,

00:29:34.560 but you would still remember them.

00:29:36.280 But you'd have, in your mind,

00:29:38.080 a perfect picture of it.

00:29:39.220 So that's what made it so devastatingly effective.

00:29:42.180 And now Fox News and the right

00:29:45.280 has come up with their response to kids in cages.

00:29:48.280 It's called Haitians under a bridge. 0.85

00:29:51.900 Haitians under a bridge. 0.87

00:29:53.960 Do you know how much the under the bridge part

00:29:56.540 adds to the story?

00:29:58.180 A lot.

00:30:00.020 Same as the cages.

00:30:02.060 It's not just kids,

00:30:03.240 and it's not just Haitians.

00:30:04.840 It's kids in cages,

00:30:06.700 and it's Haitians under a bridge.

00:30:08.220 Because as soon as you add the under a bridge,

00:30:11.380 the movie is complete, right?

00:30:14.520 You don't need all the details.

00:30:16.540 You just see a mass of humanity under a bridge,

00:30:18.840 and you can see it.

00:30:21.280 So here's your persuasion lesson for the day.

00:30:25.260 Adding the under a bridge

00:30:26.940 really sells this story.

00:30:30.060 Just like adding in cages sold the story before.

00:30:33.800 So once you see a play that works

00:30:35.640 for one team,

00:30:38.220 you can pretty much depend on the other team

00:30:40.560 giving that technique a try.

00:30:43.440 And here it's happening,

00:30:44.540 and it's working.

00:30:45.820 It looks like it's, you know,

00:30:47.660 it captures our imagination

00:30:48.940 in a very similar way.

00:30:50.320 I mean, kids is obviously,

00:30:52.000 you know, the ultimate.

00:30:53.700 If you could do something about a story

00:30:55.500 where kids are being injured,

00:30:57.660 that's your ultimate persuasion.

00:30:59.320 But Haitians have something going for them too,

00:31:03.160 don't they?

00:31:04.480 What the Haitians have going for them 1.00

00:31:06.500 is that they're black. 0.98

00:31:08.620 And in this country, 0.98

00:31:09.860 if there's a story about a massive group 0.53

00:31:12.980 of black people being mistreated, 0.99

00:31:15.480 that's a damn big story. 1.00

00:31:17.600 Right? 0.97

00:31:17.920 Because you've got, you know,

00:31:19.440 kids in cages,

00:31:21.300 Haitians,

00:31:22.520 you know, 0.98

00:31:22.740 black people being forced to live under bridges, 0.99

00:31:25.280 horrible conditions. 0.99

00:31:26.100 It does add that extra spice to the story.

00:31:29.780 And not in a good way,

00:31:31.220 but it does.

00:31:32.840 So, anyway,

00:31:34.040 good persuasion play from the right,

00:31:36.480 whoever came up with that.

00:31:38.460 I tweeted a story for you to debunk.

00:31:42.080 There's some claim.

00:31:44.040 I'm not,

00:31:44.440 I won't even tell you who it is,

00:31:45.700 but there's a tweet

00:31:47.900 and a tweet thread

00:31:49.260 claiming that India beat the Delta variant

00:31:52.480 when they introduced ivermectin.

00:31:56.000 And there's,

00:31:56.440 it comes complete with graphs

00:31:58.000 that I don't believe,

00:31:59.220 et cetera.

00:32:00.060 So,

00:32:00.700 I asked my skeptics

00:32:02.280 to debunk that.

00:32:03.980 I think it'll be debunked

00:32:05.560 by the time we're done here.

00:32:06.700 I haven't checked the comments yet.

00:32:08.480 But,

00:32:09.500 it looked really persuasive.

00:32:12.160 If you had only seen the claim,

00:32:14.780 you absolutely would be convinced.

00:32:17.260 If you'd never seen any pushback on it.

00:32:18.920 It looks very convincing.

00:32:20.120 There's a graph

00:32:21.800 and it shows the time

00:32:23.240 that ivermectin was put into place

00:32:25.200 and then the graph falls

00:32:26.340 and then you compare it

00:32:27.720 to the United States

00:32:28.640 and other countries

00:32:30.220 and we're just going up.

00:32:31.960 But,

00:32:32.140 allegedly,

00:32:32.760 I don't know if any of this is true,

00:32:35.040 but,

00:32:35.300 allegedly,

00:32:35.920 India went up 0.99

00:32:36.600 and then ivermectin

00:32:37.480 went way down.

00:32:39.320 Did that really happen?

00:32:41.600 Because it's an outrageously specific claim

00:32:44.600 with stuff that can all be checked publicly.

00:32:48.560 Now,

00:32:48.840 I don't have the time to check it.

00:32:50.020 That's why I was asking other people

00:32:51.300 to look at it.

00:32:52.760 But,

00:32:53.280 somebody says curry.

00:32:55.660 I don't think so.

00:33:00.460 Anyway,

00:33:01.140 so I just put that out there

00:33:02.280 that I don't think

00:33:03.040 there's anything true to that story.

00:33:05.320 But,

00:33:05.780 I'd love to be wrong.

00:33:07.140 That would be fun.

00:33:08.900 What did,

00:33:10.680 oh,

00:33:11.040 ivermectin sounds good

00:33:12.060 until you listen to Z-Dog.

00:33:13.680 Yeah.

00:33:13.860 All right,

00:33:17.640 so I'm going to call that story BS

00:33:20.140 that India beat the Delta with ivermectin.

00:33:22.600 I don't think that's true,

00:33:23.860 but I'll let the skeptics tear that apart.

00:33:27.200 The new story about Hunter Biden,

00:33:29.940 I guess Business Insider has this,

00:33:31.720 breaking news.

00:33:33.920 Allegedly,

00:33:34.500 Hunter Biden asked,

00:33:35.540 there's some new emails

00:33:36.640 of Hunter Biden

00:33:38.340 that have been discovered

00:33:39.260 not from the laptop.

00:33:41.680 So,

00:33:41.900 there are Hunter Biden emails,

00:33:43.160 allegedly,

00:33:44.140 but not from the laptop.

00:33:46.660 So,

00:33:46.960 you have to wonder

00:33:47.400 if they're real.

00:33:48.120 That's the first question.

00:33:49.760 All right.

00:33:51.680 Apparently,

00:33:52.400 Hunter Biden asked

00:33:53.200 for a retainer

00:33:54.040 of $2 million per year

00:33:56.060 plus a success fee,

00:33:57.980 because $2 million a year,

00:33:59.160 not enough.

00:33:59.840 You also need a success fee,

00:34:01.020 to help unfreeze money

00:34:02.540 belonging to the Libyan government.

00:34:05.000 This was in 2015,

00:34:06.860 while his father

00:34:07.600 was still vice president.

00:34:12.360 What?

00:34:14.920 What?

00:34:17.280 Am I really,

00:34:18.440 is this real?

00:34:20.320 Now,

00:34:20.660 it's breaking news,

00:34:21.820 so like most news,

00:34:23.060 you should say to yourself,

00:34:23.940 maybe it's not real.

00:34:25.620 It could be a fake email

00:34:27.160 that somebody got or something.

00:34:29.340 But what if this is real?

00:34:31.020 If this is real,

00:34:34.280 how is Hunter Biden

00:34:35.580 going to unfreeze Libyan money

00:34:37.720 with all of his Libyan 0.99

00:34:41.140 unfreezing money connections

00:34:42.740 that he personally had,

00:34:44.200 not through his father,

00:34:45.100 who was vice president

00:34:45.820 of the United States?

00:34:47.800 There's no conceivable way

00:34:49.800 that he could have gotten

00:34:51.680 this job done

00:34:52.680 without his father.

00:34:55.220 Is there?

00:34:56.600 Or dealing with people

00:34:58.040 who want to make his father happy,

00:34:59.840 but it's the same thing.

00:35:01.660 So,

00:35:02.400 here's what's going to happen.

00:35:07.200 I feel like nothing.

00:35:10.360 I feel like this story

00:35:11.720 will come out,

00:35:12.900 we will believe it is true,

00:35:15.280 and nothing will happen.

00:35:19.160 Right?

00:35:20.080 Doesn't it feel like

00:35:20.820 nothing's going to happen?

00:35:22.400 Because this is clearly a crime,

00:35:24.420 isn't it?

00:35:25.580 Or if it's not a crime,

00:35:28.200 it's something terrible.

00:35:31.760 Now, apparently,

00:35:32.780 the project didn't go forward,

00:35:35.280 so maybe that gives them an out

00:35:36.700 because it didn't happen,

00:35:37.720 it was just an offer.

00:35:38.420 I don't know if it's a crime,

00:35:39.420 but...

00:35:40.420 Oh, my God.

00:35:44.480 Oh, my God.

00:35:46.000 If this is true,

00:35:47.420 oh, my God.

00:35:49.440 I mean,

00:35:49.880 it's as bad as the other stuff

00:35:51.160 we've already heard,

00:35:51.960 but it's additive to that.

00:35:54.580 Rico.

00:35:55.360 Interesting.

00:35:56.480 I'm seeing in the comments

00:35:57.520 there could be a Rico case.

00:35:59.360 I don't know.

00:35:59.980 Could there?

00:36:00.320 I don't know anything

00:36:01.420 about that stuff.

00:36:03.760 But to the point

00:36:05.800 that it would be

00:36:06.320 an organized conspiracy,

00:36:09.320 I don't know.

00:36:09.960 I wouldn't rule it out.

00:36:12.760 All right.

00:36:13.400 Tucker Carlson,

00:36:14.800 being provocative,

00:36:17.360 being provocative again,

00:36:19.520 I'm going to tell you

00:36:20.420 what he said,

00:36:21.080 and then I'll give you

00:36:21.780 my comments on it.

00:36:24.200 So he quoted Joe Biden

00:36:25.580 in 2015,

00:36:29.980 I guess or so,

00:36:31.020 made this comment.

00:36:32.380 So Joe Biden said somewhere,

00:36:34.440 quote,

00:36:35.160 an unrelenting stream

00:36:36.440 of immigration,

00:36:37.520 nonstop,

00:36:38.400 nonstop.

00:36:39.680 Folks like me

00:36:40.520 who are Caucasian

00:36:41.480 of European descent

00:36:42.780 for the first time

00:36:44.020 in 2017

00:36:44.800 will be an absolute minority 0.95

00:36:47.040 in the United States

00:36:47.940 of America.

00:36:48.860 Absolute minority. 0.88

00:36:50.560 Fewer than 50%

00:36:51.540 of the people in America

00:36:52.340 from then on

00:36:53.240 will be white European stock.

00:36:55.840 That's not a bad thing.

00:36:57.680 That's a source

00:36:58.400 of our strength.

00:36:59.800 All right.

00:36:59.900 So the key words here

00:37:00.980 are that Biden says

00:37:02.160 that having lots

00:37:04.240 of immigration

00:37:04.820 and making the United States

00:37:06.360 not majority white European

00:37:08.060 is, quote,

00:37:09.400 not a bad thing

00:37:10.500 and, quote,

00:37:12.220 a source of our strength.

00:37:15.240 So to that,

00:37:17.740 Tucker says,

00:37:21.120 he goes,

00:37:21.520 that's the reason,

00:37:22.540 to reduce the political power

00:37:24.180 of people.

00:37:24.740 So this is Tucker's commentary.

00:37:26.620 That Biden has admitted

00:37:28.980 that it's to reduce

00:37:30.880 the political power

00:37:31.760 of people

00:37:32.140 whose ancestors

00:37:32.900 lived here

00:37:33.840 and dramatically increase

00:37:35.800 the proportion

00:37:36.320 of Americans

00:37:36.820 newly arrived

00:37:37.680 from the third world.

00:37:41.240 And then Tucker said

00:37:42.660 that Biden went further

00:37:43.720 and said that

00:37:44.300 nonwhite DNA 0.86

00:37:45.240 is a source

00:37:46.060 of our strength.

00:37:46.820 Did that happen?

00:37:50.060 Did Biden say

00:37:51.920 that nonwhite DNA 1.00

00:37:53.280 is the source

00:37:54.140 of our strength?

00:37:55.940 Did you hear that

00:37:56.960 in the quote?

00:37:58.840 Right.

00:37:59.420 So that's Tucker's summary

00:38:01.320 that Biden said

00:38:04.240 that nonwhite DNA 1.00

00:38:05.560 is a source

00:38:06.520 of our strength.

00:38:07.980 Let me read

00:38:08.580 his exact quote again.

00:38:09.900 Biden said

00:38:10.520 that we'll be

00:38:12.840 no longer

00:38:13.400 a majority white European.

00:38:14.640 And he said

00:38:15.900 that's not a bad thing.

00:38:17.580 That's a source

00:38:18.520 of our strength.

00:38:20.680 Right.

00:38:21.600 So I'm seeing

00:38:22.280 in the comments

00:38:22.820 most people say

00:38:23.520 yeah.

00:38:24.320 You said it right there.

00:38:25.860 There's the quote.

00:38:27.340 There's Tucker's interpretation.

00:38:28.920 That interpretation

00:38:29.460 is correct.

00:38:31.220 Right.

00:38:33.020 I'm seeing only yeses

00:38:34.500 to that.

00:38:35.600 It's right here.

00:38:37.300 So Tucker's

00:38:38.300 interpretation

00:38:39.260 is accurate, right?

00:38:40.340 Because I read

00:38:41.360 you the quote.

00:38:42.500 I read you

00:38:42.980 the interpretation

00:38:43.560 and you're saying

00:38:44.620 yeah, that's it.

00:38:46.060 Oh wait,

00:38:46.580 now I'm seeing some no's.

00:38:48.560 Where did all the no's 0.95

00:38:49.520 come from

00:38:49.980 all of a sudden?

00:38:51.600 Did you think

00:38:52.160 I was tricking you?

00:38:54.340 Now it's all no's 0.95

00:38:55.500 I'm seeing in the comments.

00:38:57.740 Nope.

00:38:59.480 No.

00:39:00.200 Biden did not say

00:39:01.320 what Tucker says

00:39:02.400 he says.

00:39:04.060 My interpretation

00:39:04.980 of what Biden said

00:39:06.380 when he said

00:39:07.560 that's not a bad thing

00:39:08.660 that's a source

00:39:09.380 of our strength.

00:39:10.160 Who's us?

00:39:11.040 Who's our?

00:39:12.180 Who's our strength?

00:39:14.460 The United States, right?

00:39:16.340 So can you say

00:39:17.620 that

00:39:18.300 moving from

00:39:20.760 a majority

00:39:21.480 white European stock

00:39:22.840 to a more

00:39:23.920 diverse mix

00:39:25.580 what would be

00:39:28.460 the argument

00:39:28.900 that that

00:39:29.520 makes us stronger?

00:39:33.100 So Tucker's

00:39:34.060 interpretation

00:39:34.480 seems to be

00:39:35.240 that it brings

00:39:35.800 in better DNA.

00:39:37.600 That brown people 1.00

00:39:38.260 have better DNA 0.90

00:39:39.160 than the white people 0.77

00:39:40.320 who are already there.

00:39:41.000 I don't think

00:39:42.520 that's what

00:39:43.000 that's saying.

00:39:44.520 I don't think

00:39:45.400 that's what

00:39:45.780 Biden's saying.

00:39:47.200 To me it looks

00:39:47.780 like Biden

00:39:48.500 is saying

00:39:48.920 that what makes

00:39:49.580 the United States

00:39:50.340 great

00:39:50.780 is that

00:39:52.300 we're diverse.

00:39:54.880 Now

00:39:55.200 do you think

00:39:56.780 that diversity

00:39:57.820 has ever

00:39:58.580 helped the United States?

00:39:59.720 Well

00:40:02.100 it certainly

00:40:03.400 helped

00:40:03.700 when we

00:40:04.040 got those

00:40:04.620 German scientists

00:40:06.440 after World War II.

00:40:08.540 I don't know

00:40:09.160 if you want to

00:40:09.520 call that

00:40:09.880 diverse

00:40:10.240 but

00:40:11.220 I don't know

00:40:12.280 how many

00:40:12.620 other Nazis 0.64

00:40:13.440 or Nazi 0.55

00:40:14.720 sympathizers

00:40:16.240 or workers

00:40:16.920 or anything

00:40:17.380 well I wouldn't

00:40:18.220 call them

00:40:18.480 sympathizers

00:40:19.060 but I don't know

00:40:20.180 how many people

00:40:20.700 from the

00:40:21.140 Nazi regime

00:40:22.360 we brought

00:40:23.020 to the United States

00:40:23.820 but it helped

00:40:24.420 didn't it?

00:40:25.900 it was a little

00:40:26.820 diversity that helped

00:40:27.800 now that's a weird

00:40:29.620 example I know

00:40:30.520 but

00:40:31.620 do you buy

00:40:34.960 the argument

00:40:35.880 that diversity

00:40:37.300 is an advantage?

00:40:39.220 See that's the

00:40:39.700 argument

00:40:39.920 Tucker took it

00:40:41.280 in a different

00:40:41.760 direction with DNA

00:40:42.800 I don't think

00:40:43.360 that was ever

00:40:43.780 the intention

00:40:44.320 I think it was

00:40:45.120 just diversity

00:40:45.780 well

00:40:51.580 I'm going to

00:40:54.160 give you the

00:40:54.740 counter argument

00:40:55.420 I'm seeing lots

00:40:55.980 of people

00:40:56.200 saying no

00:40:56.680 here's

00:40:58.620 here's the

00:41:00.240 frame I'd put

00:41:01.220 on it

00:41:01.640 what is it

00:41:02.640 about the

00:41:03.060 United States

00:41:04.000 that made

00:41:06.480 it work

00:41:07.040 right

00:41:08.400 well a lot

00:41:08.920 of things

00:41:09.220 we had lots

00:41:09.940 of natural

00:41:10.320 resources

00:41:10.820 and stuff

00:41:11.580 like that

00:41:11.960 we didn't

00:41:12.780 have a

00:41:13.080 World War

00:41:13.480 II

00:41:13.720 on our

00:41:14.700 shores 0.53

00:41:15.500 so there

00:41:16.020 are lots

00:41:16.260 of things

00:41:16.560 that made

00:41:16.800 the United

00:41:17.140 States

00:41:17.400 work

00:41:17.720 and some

00:41:18.080 of it

00:41:18.240 was luck

00:41:18.700 but

00:41:20.220 I would

00:41:21.320 argue

00:41:21.620 that the

00:41:22.380 biggest

00:41:22.720 thing

00:41:23.020 that makes

00:41:23.420 it work

00:41:23.920 is how

00:41:26.460 people got

00:41:27.120 here

00:41:27.460 meaning that

00:41:30.240 the people

00:41:31.080 who said

00:41:32.200 to heck

00:41:33.540 with this 0.64

00:41:34.040 country

00:41:34.380 I'm in

00:41:34.800 I'm going

00:41:35.200 to go

00:41:35.400 make

00:41:35.620 something

00:41:35.880 happen

00:41:36.240 somewhere

00:41:36.600 else

00:41:36.960 don't you

00:41:38.980 think that

00:41:39.320 that is a

00:41:39.780 really selective

00:41:40.680 group

00:41:41.180 suppose you

00:41:42.600 started with

00:41:43.760 the population

00:41:44.400 of the world

00:41:45.040 you said

00:41:46.320 alright

00:41:46.500 I'm just

00:41:46.960 going to put

00:41:47.460 all the

00:41:47.860 people who

00:41:48.220 have the

00:41:48.540 following

00:41:49.200 qualities

00:41:49.880 in one

00:41:51.160 country

00:41:51.560 those

00:41:52.620 will be

00:41:52.840 the people

00:41:53.240 who couldn't

00:41:53.860 stand the

00:41:54.400 country they

00:41:54.900 were in

00:41:55.380 because it

00:41:56.400 wasn't free

00:41:57.000 enough

00:41:57.400 didn't give

00:41:58.880 them enough

00:41:59.380 options

00:41:59.920 and they

00:42:00.940 were going

00:42:01.160 to take

00:42:01.440 a tremendous

00:42:02.100 risk to

00:42:03.000 get out of

00:42:03.420 there and

00:42:03.860 improve their

00:42:04.440 life

00:42:04.860 right so

00:42:06.700 that's the

00:42:07.120 group that

00:42:07.540 you've

00:42:07.800 filtered

00:42:08.100 people who

00:42:09.200 will take

00:42:09.500 a big

00:42:09.840 risk

00:42:10.320 succeed

00:42:11.540 because they

00:42:12.180 don't get

00:42:12.460 to this

00:42:12.740 country unless

00:42:13.260 they succeed

00:42:14.000 succeed as

00:42:15.500 something really

00:42:16.200 really hard

00:42:16.980 because the

00:42:18.640 long term

00:42:19.240 advantage will

00:42:19.940 be good

00:42:20.400 how many of

00:42:22.820 those do you

00:42:23.240 want in your

00:42:23.600 country

00:42:23.920 how many

00:42:25.500 people with

00:42:26.080 that quality

00:42:26.960 we're not

00:42:28.240 talking about

00:42:28.740 where they

00:42:29.140 came from

00:42:29.620 any culture

00:42:30.700 doesn't matter

00:42:31.880 the culture

00:42:32.380 wherever they

00:42:33.720 came from

00:42:34.220 they took a

00:42:35.780 gigantic risk

00:42:36.880 to get here

00:42:37.540 pulled it off

00:42:38.680 made it work

00:42:39.880 and they were

00:42:41.320 planning for the

00:42:42.160 distant future

00:42:43.220 they weren't

00:42:44.620 planning for what

00:42:45.340 was happening

00:42:45.780 today

00:42:46.280 they were

00:42:47.320 planning years

00:42:48.340 in advance

00:42:49.020 so their

00:42:49.880 mindset was

00:42:50.700 years in

00:42:51.300 advance

00:42:51.700 hard work

00:42:53.060 risk

00:42:54.260 and freedom

00:42:56.700 and we got

00:42:58.220 all of them

00:42:58.780 well we didn't

00:43:00.300 get all of them

00:43:00.920 but that's

00:43:01.800 basically what

00:43:02.420 makes up the

00:43:02.880 United States

00:43:03.500 right

00:43:04.320 now I would

00:43:06.300 argue

00:43:06.660 that anytime

00:43:08.120 that yeah

00:43:08.880 brave

00:43:09.380 brave right

00:43:10.320 risk takers

00:43:11.060 I would argue

00:43:13.140 that anytime

00:43:13.640 you take

00:43:14.260 the best

00:43:15.060 of every

00:43:15.900 culture

00:43:16.340 those are

00:43:18.380 the best

00:43:18.920 right

00:43:20.220 in my

00:43:21.380 opinion

00:43:21.780 the people

00:43:23.680 who can

00:43:24.080 make that

00:43:24.600 work

00:43:24.960 and are

00:43:25.520 thinking so

00:43:26.240 far in

00:43:26.660 advance

00:43:27.120 that they're

00:43:28.240 thinking

00:43:28.540 generations in

00:43:29.460 advance

00:43:29.920 literally

00:43:30.740 they're thinking

00:43:31.660 their children

00:43:32.160 and grandchildren

00:43:32.780 that's why

00:43:33.220 they come

00:43:33.520 here

00:43:33.660 I would

00:43:34.680 think that

00:43:35.240 if you took

00:43:35.680 those people

00:43:36.480 out of every

00:43:37.100 country

00:43:37.460 and put them

00:43:37.900 in one

00:43:38.220 country

00:43:38.600 that country

00:43:39.740 would rule

00:43:40.200 the world

00:43:40.640 every time

00:43:42.460 so

00:43:44.020 in order

00:43:46.340 for that

00:43:46.760 to work

00:43:47.320 picking

00:43:48.320 I'm going

00:43:49.000 to say

00:43:49.220 they're the

00:43:49.580 best people

00:43:50.300 from each

00:43:51.320 culture

00:43:51.740 if you take

00:43:53.920 the best

00:43:54.480 people from

00:43:55.060 each culture

00:43:55.680 the ones

00:43:56.100 who have

00:43:56.340 that quality

00:43:57.000 about them

00:43:57.520 that doesn't

00:44:00.100 make you

00:44:00.400 stronger

00:44:00.780 remember all

00:44:04.240 the no's

00:44:04.780 you had

00:44:05.160 and everybody

00:44:05.700 said no

00:44:06.080 no no

00:44:06.560 there's no

00:44:06.980 way diversity

00:44:07.720 makes us

00:44:08.140 stronger

00:44:08.500 but I

00:44:10.680 just gave

00:44:11.080 you an 0.64

00:44:11.260 argument

00:44:11.540 where we

00:44:13.060 got the

00:44:13.460 best

00:44:13.900 of all

00:44:14.780 the diverse

00:44:15.360 cultures

00:44:15.780 because they're

00:44:16.200 the only

00:44:16.480 ones who

00:44:16.800 could get

00:44:17.100 here

00:44:17.300 the ones

00:44:18.440 who weren't

00:44:18.720 the best

00:44:19.060 couldn't

00:44:19.340 get here

00:44:19.720 they were

00:44:21.940 just going

00:44:22.260 to take

00:44:22.540 care of

00:44:22.800 what was

00:44:23.060 happening

00:44:23.340 right in

00:44:23.680 front of

00:44:23.940 them

00:44:24.060 they were

00:44:24.700 not long

00:44:25.220 term

00:44:25.420 planners

00:44:25.800 they weren't

00:44:26.280 willing to

00:44:26.660 take a

00:44:26.940 risk

00:44:27.120 they couldn't

00:44:27.520 figure it

00:44:27.840 out

00:44:28.040 well

00:44:30.780 that's the

00:44:31.200 argument

00:44:31.500 so

00:44:32.620 they only

00:44:33.760 want free

00:44:34.240 stuff

00:44:34.540 I think

00:44:36.460 there's

00:44:37.740 certainly

00:44:38.060 a number

00:44:38.700 of people

00:44:39.100 who are

00:44:39.660 not

00:44:40.160 the cream

00:44:41.880 of the

00:44:42.120 crop

00:44:42.440 everybody's

00:44:47.160 different

00:44:47.420 so you're

00:44:47.820 not going

00:44:48.080 to get

00:44:48.260 only the

00:44:48.940 cream

00:44:49.160 of the

00:44:49.380 crop

00:44:49.580 but I

00:44:50.260 think on

00:44:50.560 average

00:44:51.060 you're

00:44:51.300 bringing

00:44:51.480 in the

00:44:51.760 good

00:44:51.900 people

00:44:52.160 and you

00:44:53.060 also need

00:44:53.480 people to

00:44:53.880 do every

00:44:54.260 other kind

00:44:54.680 of job

00:44:55.060 in society

00:44:55.760 now here's

00:44:57.080 another

00:44:57.440 thing to

00:44:59.960 think of

00:45:00.420 can the

00:45:01.260 United States

00:45:01.840 survive if

00:45:02.600 our birth

00:45:03.200 rate falls

00:45:04.000 and what

00:45:05.460 would happen

00:45:05.800 to our

00:45:06.140 natural birth

00:45:07.080 rate if

00:45:07.680 we didn't

00:45:08.020 have massive

00:45:08.680 immigration

00:45:09.300 I'm not

00:45:10.240 in favor of

00:45:11.380 massive

00:45:11.660 immigration

00:45:12.220 I'm just

00:45:13.300 asking the

00:45:13.760 question

00:45:14.100 what would

00:45:15.280 happen to

00:45:15.620 our birth

00:45:16.120 rate if

00:45:17.220 we didn't

00:45:17.520 have massive

00:45:18.060 immigration

00:45:18.600 it wouldn't

00:45:20.100 sustain the

00:45:20.660 country

00:45:20.920 it's a

00:45:21.400 problem

00:45:21.680 we actually

00:45:23.100 need young

00:45:23.820 people

00:45:24.200 economically

00:45:25.440 it's a

00:45:26.920 requirement

00:45:27.300 where were

00:45:28.400 they going

00:45:28.620 to come

00:45:28.880 from

00:45:29.100 we weren't

00:45:30.440 going to

00:45:30.600 have them

00:45:30.980 I mean I

00:45:31.940 suppose we

00:45:32.480 could have

00:45:32.700 done some

00:45:33.060 massive

00:45:33.440 persuasion

00:45:34.760 to get

00:45:35.200 Americans

00:45:35.800 who are

00:45:36.600 already here

00:45:37.080 to have

00:45:37.320 more babies

00:45:38.020 I don't

00:45:38.940 know that

00:45:39.240 that would

00:45:39.540 work

00:45:39.880 I feel as

00:45:41.320 if the

00:45:41.820 one and

00:45:42.180 only way

00:45:42.680 that you

00:45:43.060 can be

00:45:44.160 economically

00:45:44.760 viable is

00:45:45.520 to bring

00:45:45.900 in young

00:45:46.300 people if

00:45:46.780 you're not

00:45:47.060 making young

00:45:47.620 people

00:45:47.940 you have to

00:45:48.600 bring them

00:45:48.880 in and

00:45:49.700 bring in

00:45:50.080 populations

00:45:50.640 that have

00:45:51.260 more babies

00:45:52.240 now am I

00:45:55.480 arguing

00:45:55.840 therefore that

00:45:56.540 we should

00:45:56.800 open the

00:45:57.140 borders and

00:45:57.680 just let

00:45:58.060 everybody

00:45:58.420 in no

00:45:58.940 it's crazy

00:46:00.560 the way we're

00:46:01.980 doing it

00:46:02.320 now crazy

00:46:03.580 it's all

00:46:04.400 wrong

00:46:04.780 what I'm

00:46:06.040 arguing and

00:46:06.720 I've always

00:46:07.160 argued is

00:46:08.160 you need a

00:46:08.900 totally secure

00:46:10.140 border and

00:46:11.700 then you can

00:46:12.260 decide based

00:46:12.960 on economics

00:46:13.880 based on

00:46:15.360 economics

00:46:16.180 how many to

00:46:17.660 let in in

00:46:18.280 any given

00:46:18.840 year and

00:46:20.940 maybe what

00:46:21.460 types of

00:46:22.000 people to

00:46:22.420 let in

00:46:22.700 so I think

00:46:23.960 you have to

00:46:24.240 control it

00:46:24.880 but you

00:46:26.020 gotta let in

00:46:27.500 a good number

00:46:28.220 of people

00:46:28.620 I don't know

00:46:29.020 what the

00:46:29.240 right number

00:46:29.660 is but

00:46:30.360 you almost

00:46:30.740 have to

00:46:31.400 take

00:46:32.720 immigration

00:46:33.280 and you've

00:46:34.160 gotta treat

00:46:34.580 it pretty

00:46:35.120 seriously

00:46:35.760 I can't

00:46:37.820 argue what

00:46:38.280 the absolute

00:46:39.120 number should

00:46:39.900 be

00:46:40.240 because I

00:46:41.560 mean that

00:46:42.320 would take

00:46:42.620 a lot of

00:46:43.040 research and

00:46:43.740 I'm not even

00:46:44.120 sure you could

00:46:44.600 ever know

00:46:44.960 that but I

00:46:46.120 do know you

00:46:46.520 need a lot

00:46:46.920 of it

00:46:47.220 we may have

00:46:48.620 twice as much

00:46:49.300 as we need

00:46:49.800 right now

00:46:50.360 but you need

00:46:51.380 a lot of

00:46:51.820 it and if

00:46:53.120 you don't

00:46:53.340 have it 0.77

00:46:53.680 you're dead 0.99

00:46:54.100 did I make 0.99

00:46:57.360 my case

00:46:57.860 with just

00:46:59.700 the argument

00:47:00.120 I gave

00:47:00.660 that we're

00:47:01.540 really

00:47:01.880 at least

00:47:02.940 for the

00:47:03.680 most part

00:47:04.120 we're trying

00:47:04.540 to pick

00:47:04.860 off the

00:47:05.300 risk takers

00:47:06.100 and the

00:47:07.040 higher quality

00:47:07.760 people from

00:47:08.480 each

00:47:08.900 every country

00:47:10.380 that can

00:47:10.980 get here

00:47:11.420 no

00:47:13.140 all right

00:47:15.340 so as

00:47:17.040 per typical

00:47:17.680 very rarely

00:47:19.160 do people

00:47:19.660 change their

00:47:20.160 minds

00:47:20.480 nope nope

00:47:23.600 nope

00:47:23.920 I'm seeing

00:47:24.700 lots of

00:47:25.120 no's

00:47:25.580 what would

00:47:26.300 be your

00:47:26.580 argument

00:47:26.860 what would

00:47:28.860 be your

00:47:29.340 argument

00:47:29.760 against

00:47:30.380 the notion

00:47:31.540 that we're

00:47:32.320 filtering in

00:47:33.660 the right

00:47:34.180 kind of

00:47:34.660 risk takers

00:47:35.440 and the

00:47:35.940 people who

00:47:36.340 think ahead

00:47:36.820 that's not

00:47:39.840 who's coming

00:47:40.440 rich guy

00:47:41.000 now I'm

00:47:41.880 completely aware

00:47:42.900 that there are

00:47:43.920 tons and tons

00:47:44.800 of you know

00:47:46.300 just workers

00:47:47.360 coming in

00:47:47.940 because they

00:47:48.480 heard they

00:47:49.620 heard the

00:47:49.980 crowd was

00:47:50.540 moving north

00:47:51.220 and they just

00:47:51.680 got in the

00:47:52.180 line

00:47:52.460 so clearly

00:47:53.540 there are

00:47:53.860 going to be

00:47:54.060 tons of

00:47:54.480 people who

00:47:54.840 are not the

00:47:55.220 cream of the

00:47:55.680 crop

00:47:55.980 I'm not

00:47:56.560 claiming that

00:47:57.200 what I am

00:47:58.320 claiming is

00:47:58.820 that we're

00:47:59.060 getting enough

00:48:00.000 of the

00:48:01.240 cream of the

00:48:01.740 crop

00:48:02.080 you know

00:48:02.760 the risk

00:48:03.080 takers

00:48:03.460 that we

00:48:05.480 come out

00:48:05.800 ahead

00:48:06.060 that would

00:48:07.580 be the

00:48:07.820 argument

00:48:08.100 you come

00:48:08.660 out ahead

00:48:09.220 even though

00:48:11.060 you're bringing

00:48:11.520 in a lot

00:48:11.920 of common

00:48:12.380 laborers who

00:48:13.160 are maybe

00:48:13.960 just going to

00:48:14.420 break even

00:48:14.920 economically

00:48:16.000 you don't

00:48:17.220 need that

00:48:17.680 many superstars

00:48:18.920 right to

00:48:20.120 start a

00:48:20.580 billion dollar

00:48:21.040 company

00:48:21.420 etc

00:48:21.720 yes legal

00:48:29.060 immigration

00:48:29.520 yes if I

00:48:31.000 didn't say

00:48:31.400 that explicitly

00:48:32.200 I only favor

00:48:33.380 legal immigration

00:48:34.580 so I

00:48:35.880 certainly don't

00:48:36.620 favor whatever

00:48:37.320 is happening

00:48:37.740 now

00:48:38.160 diversity of

00:48:41.840 appearance means

00:48:42.420 nothing if

00:48:43.020 people are

00:48:43.600 thinking the

00:48:44.300 same

00:48:44.700 well I'm

00:48:46.200 saying that

00:48:46.840 we don't

00:48:47.560 want diversity

00:48:48.380 in one way

00:48:51.200 there's one

00:48:52.460 kind of

00:48:52.820 diversity

00:48:53.240 you don't

00:48:53.780 want

00:48:54.100 which is

00:48:55.600 you don't

00:48:56.220 want people

00:48:56.620 who don't

00:48:56.920 want to be

00:48:57.240 successful

00:48:57.740 you want

00:48:59.520 the kind

00:48:59.840 of diversity

00:49:00.400 where it's

00:49:00.980 all kinds

00:49:01.380 of people

00:49:01.780 but they

00:49:02.180 want to

00:49:02.600 make the

00:49:02.920 world a

00:49:03.280 better place

00:49:03.800 like that's

00:49:05.240 the diversity

00:49:05.800 you want

00:49:06.120 you don't

00:49:06.680 want diversity

00:49:07.200 of thought

00:49:07.800 because like

00:49:08.720 some of

00:49:09.060 them are 1.00

00:49:09.320 terrorists 0.98

00:49:09.720 some of

00:49:11.380 them don't

00:49:11.680 want to

00:49:11.920 work

00:49:12.240 some of

00:49:13.160 them just

00:49:13.420 want you

00:49:13.740 to take

00:49:14.040 care of

00:49:14.340 them

00:49:14.520 I don't

00:49:15.300 want that

00:49:15.620 diversity

00:49:16.100 that's the

00:49:17.140 diversity of

00:49:17.680 thought I

00:49:17.980 don't want

00:49:18.280 at all

00:49:18.680 I want

00:49:19.740 I want people

00:49:20.840 who have some shared notion of the United States

00:49:24.760 and what success looks like, and they want it.

00:49:28.840 That's who I want.

00:49:30.540 Yeah, get more of those.

00:49:33.140 Anyway, I don't think Tucker's interpretation of it

00:49:36.900 was quite spot-on, but very provocative, as he always is.

00:49:43.040 Different cultures have different thoughts, true enough.

00:49:45.980 But I do think that the United States attracts people

00:49:49.440 who have, on average, compatible notions

00:49:53.900 with freedom and capitalism.

00:50:00.740 I've never been an illegal immigrant

00:50:02.460 that didn't want to get money to take back home. 1.00

00:50:05.740 So, what's wrong with that?

00:50:08.740 What is wrong with that?

00:50:11.280 I mean, the money that they send back home

00:50:13.540 is what keeps everybody home.

00:50:16.560 If they weren't sending money back home,

00:50:18.580 those people would be coming here, too.

00:50:21.560 So, I'm not sure that's the negative you think it is.

00:50:25.860 Just looking at some of your comments.

00:50:31.040 You're dreaming if you...

00:50:32.420 Let me just read this.

00:50:33.300 It's so hard as they're going by.

00:50:34.600 If you think that getting risk-takers

00:50:36.240 who are going to help grow our economy,

00:50:38.300 we're seeing people because they're motivated by the takers.

00:50:40.880 All right, so the point here would be

00:50:44.480 that the people coming here for free stuff

00:50:48.160 are the dominant thing.

00:50:53.100 Maybe.

00:50:55.660 But would it matter to my point?

00:50:58.060 Let's say my point was that

00:50:59.860 we're bringing the cream of the crop,

00:51:01.800 but you say to me,

00:51:02.800 Scott, Scott, Scott,

00:51:03.860 you might be getting 10% like that,

00:51:06.560 but 90% are just people coming here for free stuff.

00:51:09.520 Do you think those immigrants don't want to work?

00:51:13.920 How many of you think the immigrants came here

00:51:15.860 for free stuff

00:51:16.660 and didn't think they were going to work hard?

00:51:20.620 I feel like zero.

00:51:23.180 We're getting the people who want to work 0.99

00:51:25.500 more than Americans want to work. 0.91

00:51:30.180 Now, when you say free stuff,

00:51:32.180 I would just say that it's a better life.

00:51:34.640 I think they want to give and get also.

00:51:37.340 I don't think they want to get without working.

00:51:40.880 I think they came here to work.

00:51:43.400 Do you really not think they came here to work?

00:51:45.840 And I think they came here to work

00:51:47.460 under a system that would reward them better

00:51:49.460 than the system they were in.

00:51:52.160 What's wrong with that?

00:51:54.200 It's what we all do.

00:51:55.840 We're all doing that.

00:51:57.120 We're looking for the better system

00:51:58.480 that treats us better for the same amount of work.

00:52:01.680 Do you hate them for that?

00:52:03.080 All right, so back to my point.

00:52:04.140 Let's say we've got 10% of the people

00:52:05.800 I'm describing, like the go-getters, 1.00

00:52:08.160 the risk-takers, the entrepreneurs,

00:52:10.280 the people planning ahead.

00:52:11.500 And you get 90% of the people

00:52:14.840 who just want to work hard and have a better life.

00:52:17.520 Did you come out ahead or behind?

00:52:20.760 That's my scenario.

00:52:21.880 Did you come out ahead or behind?

00:52:23.580 You only got 10% of the people who are awesome,

00:52:26.880 like really think ahead, entrepreneurs,

00:52:28.580 going to make this country great.

00:52:31.120 90% are just here because the crowd came here

00:52:33.580 because it's a better life, but they want to work hard.

00:52:36.400 No doubt they want to work hard.

00:52:38.940 Did you come out ahead or behind?

00:52:41.880 John says behind.

00:52:43.500 How do you know?

00:52:44.720 Are you an economist?

00:52:47.980 I've got a degree in economics, and I don't know.

00:52:51.240 I feel if I had to guess, I'd say ahead.

00:52:54.400 But again, it depends on amount, right?

00:52:56.800 There's some amount of immigration that puts you behind. 1.00

00:52:58.940 There's some amount that would put you ahead.

00:53:00.520 I don't know where that cutoff point is,

00:53:03.600 but we ought to find it.

00:53:08.860 Lyle says, Scott is surprised his audience

00:53:11.000 is overwhelmingly racist.

00:53:12.540 No, I'm not.

00:53:13.560 Do you think that surprised me?

00:53:16.760 My view, all people are racist.

00:53:19.460 So I would expect all of my audiences

00:53:21.360 to be racist all the time,

00:53:23.320 no matter who I was talking to.

00:53:25.300 It's just a complete illusion that they're non-racists.

00:53:27.900 It's just people who think of it different ways.

00:53:30.680 They communicate different.

00:53:32.220 But the thing that makes everybody racist

00:53:33.860 is that your brain is a pattern recognition device.

00:53:38.540 Your lawnmower can only be a lawnmower.

00:53:40.900 Your dishwasher can only be a dishwasher.

00:53:43.280 Dishwasher can't mow the lawn.

00:53:44.820 Lawnmower can't clean your dishes.

00:53:47.180 Your brain is just one thing.

00:53:49.420 It's a pattern recognition machine.

00:53:51.180 It can't be anything else.

00:53:52.200 And the problem is that you're bad at pattern recognition.

00:53:56.400 But it's all you got.

00:53:58.060 And if you're bad at pattern recognition,

00:53:59.900 as we all are,

00:54:01.220 we're all fooled by the wrong patterns,

00:54:03.260 then you end up thinking,

00:54:04.480 well, those Elbonians,

00:54:05.680 they always wear hats and eat bananas

00:54:08.980 and fall on their faces.

00:54:11.500 Because you saw three Elbonians like that. 1.00

00:54:14.440 So of course you're a racist.

00:54:16.440 You cannot be. 1.00

00:54:17.980 Because your brain is just oriented that way.

00:54:20.060 Now, you can use your higher level thinking to get past it.

00:54:24.240 That would be awesome.

00:54:25.660 But you're starting as a racist.

00:54:28.220 So, is my audience racist?

00:54:30.360 Yeah, because they're humans.

00:54:31.700 Yeah, of course they are.

00:54:33.340 All right, that's all for now.

00:54:34.580 And I'll see you...

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - September 23, 2021

Episode 1508 Scott Adams： Lots of Red Meat Stories About Politics Today and the Simultaneous SIP

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