Episode 1521 Scott Adams: Probably the Best Coffee With Scott Adams of All Time
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Summary
Scott Adams talks about a viral video of a school banning backpacks, a new Department of Justice policy on dealing with school officials, and the best and worst commercial ideas of the 21st century. Plus, a story about a school that banned backpacks.
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Good morning, everybody, and welcome to Coffee with Scott Adams, one of the highlights of
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Well, did you see the viral video of, there was some school, this might be fake news by
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the way, but because it's fun, I'm going to treat it like it's real.
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So I think it's fake news, but maybe, maybe not.
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But, so allegedly there was some school that banned backpacks.
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Was there really a school that banned backpacks?
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So first of all, I don't believe the story at all.
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But, the story goes that they banned backpacks and then the kids decided to take advantage
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of the specificity of the rule to bring things that weren't backpacks, but could still transport
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For example, one kid brought in a, one of those outdoor trash bins, gigantic trash bin.
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He just dragged that into school, filled with his books.
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I think one had a dog cage on wheels or something.
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Now, I'm going to say I don't believe it's a real story, but it was pretty funny.
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Here's a commercial failure, as in an advertising commercial.
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Intel, the company Intel, not the, not the intelligent services, but Intel, the company
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And the, the gist of it was they had people come in and use their new computer, or a computer
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And the people were amazed and surprised to find out that what they thought was an excellent
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Macintosh computer, or an Apple computer, was actually a PC.
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And that was, that was the essence of the commercial.
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The people who think Macintosh, or Apple, keep saying Macintosh.
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The people who think that the Apple laptops are just the best, when they use this PC, the
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PC was so good that they thought it was an Apple computer.
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They like to have the cheap imitation knockoff of high quality goods.
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I'm pretty sure that Intel just told their customers that the good one is an Apple laptop.
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Yeah, but if they want, they could, you know, if they could handle the embarrassment of not
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having an Apple product, they can get something that works pretty well too.
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Other people might not even know the difference.
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So that's like the worst commercial idea I've ever seen, to tell people that their product
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Well, we've got a new Department of Justice policy in which the people are being reminded, the
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public is being reminded not to get too aggressive with the school officials, because there's lots
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of complaints about everything from mass to critical race theory being done in schools.
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And I guess parents are getting pretty aggressive.
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And so the Justice Department decided to weigh in and say, don't do that.
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Now, some people are saying, are they just using the power of the state to shut down dissent?
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I mean, it seems to me this could go either way, because who exactly approves of people getting
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physical, for example, or threatening somebody at home?
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And that stuff needs to probably be illegal at some point, right?
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So I'm not sure there's anything to this story.
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We imagine this is, it's always the slippery slope toward having parents not have any input
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I imagine parents can have as much input as they want, as long as they don't push or threaten
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People who are declaring my idiocy in a hallucination that they had, and then criticizing me for their
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For example, if I say something about COVID or anything in that category, I get this comment
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Well, shouldn't they be arguing with my argument?
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As soon as you see that, what does that signal?
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What does it signal when somebody goes after the messenger and doesn't even touch the argument?
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Because if the argument was the problem, well, they would just go after the argument.
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They'd just publish a link or say, well, that makes no sense because you haven't considered
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The problem is that they don't know how to do that.
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So anybody who has a counterargument that makes sense uses it.
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People don't go after the personality of the person unless they have nothing to say.
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Somebody said to me, you don't understand that it's politicians that close the economy,
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not viruses, because I was talking about the risk of coronavirus would be closing the economy.
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Well, yes, I know that the politicians make the decision, but we haven't turned off the
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Whatever made them to make the decision last time might make them cause it again.
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You could argue all day long that they shouldn't close the economy.
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But if we know it happens, it's part of the risk.
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You can't turn off cause and effect just because you think it ought to be turned off.
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And my favorite one is that I used to be smart and have good takes, but suddenly all my takes
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What are the odds that I went from clever for decades to really dumb on just this one topic?
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Somebody could be smart and general and dumb on one topic.
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There's probably just something that we differ in the data, we differ in what is logical.
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Somebody says it's the marijuana and I got stupider.
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Well, you have no idea how much marijuana I smoked when I was younger.
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So apparently it's just a fact now that Instagram harms children, especially young girls.
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I said, what do you think will harm the most teens in, say, the next year?
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Which one of those things is the most dangerous to kids?
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But Instagram got 39%, and the vaccinations got 29%, and fentanyl got 31%.
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So according to the unscientific poll, Instagram is more dangerous than fentanyl and vaccinations.
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Joe Manchin is holding tight with, and mostly because of the data ceiling.
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So Joe Manchin says that the $3.5 million would just be too much money.
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What is the, what mechanism does Joe Manchin use to know how much debt is the right amount?
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How much is the amount of debt that would crush us, and how much is it going to pay for itself, for example.
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You know, Biden says it's going to pay for itself.
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And I'm kind of glad he's holding up the vote on the infrastructure thing.
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But you have to ask the question, based on what?
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And even the economists don't know how much is the right amount of debt.
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So it's kind of a weird situation that we've got one person in charge of Congress.
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And he is making decisions based on absolutely no expertise or knowledge.
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If you ask them the direct question, what is the right amount of debt?
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If you say to me, Scott, the right amount of debt is zero.
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I just don't know at what point is the breaking point.
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Yeah, I mean, debt is good if you use it right.
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Manchin is one of 52 senators, so you can't say he's holding it up.
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Paul Rubin writes in the Wall Street Journal that the woke, he calls the woke left's primitive
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And his point is that the socialism kind of model works good in a tribal situation where
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If you can only gather a limited amount of stuff or grow a limited amount of stuff or
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hunt a limited amount of stuff, you kind of have to share it with the tribe.
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So instead of dividing what you have, you just make more, and then everybody gets a little.
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Do you buy that the main difference between the left and the right's views on economics
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is that the right actually understands economics?
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At least they understand supply and demand, and they understand human motivation.
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The right understands human motivation, and they calculate it in all of their systems and
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They act like it's not a variable, which is wrong every time.
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As soon as you ignore human motivation, you're wrong every time.
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I would go so far as to say that both the left and the right get science wrong way too often.
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It has nothing to do with being on the left or the right.
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Getting science wrong just means that humans aren't really good at science.
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So I think we're both wrong on the science on different things and different times.
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That's pretty easy, because we just don't quite have the brains that can grasp the higher level stuff.
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But economics, conservatives understand that human motivation has got to be a top variable or nothing works.
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So I'd say everybody's bad at science, but only the left is bad at economics.
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Of course, these are gross generalizations, obviously.
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I saw Viva Frye use the term experimental in a tweet today for the COVID vaccination.
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I would like to suggest that anybody who uses the word experimental for the vaccination,
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You know, everybody understands that it was, you know, a quick job and wasn't tested as long as other vaccinations and stuff.
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But calling it experimental, I would say, is word thinking.
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Meaning, it's trying to win an argument with a word, and that's not how it works.
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I mean, it can work, but that's not how you should win an argument, with a word.
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You know, don't define a word and say you're done.
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And I would argue that experimental might be cognitive dissonance.
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It might be a tell for cognitive dissonance, if you're using that word.
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It's perfectly reasonable to say all the following things.
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And at least two of the vaccinations are a platform that we have less experience with.
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Well, we don't know if it increases the actual risk, but it increases the perceived risk, which is what you make your decisions on.
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So, I would argue that you don't want to use the word experimental.
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It's sort of a tell that you're not thinking through.
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The way I receive it, since I can't read your mind, I don't know what anybody's thinking when they say it.
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But the way it's received is, oh, that's just a propaganda word.
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So, persuasion advice to Viva, who I generally agree with on most things.
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I can't even think of anything I disagree with them on.
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See how much of this you agree with or disagree.
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I say, without being an expert on any of this stuff.
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And by the way, you should watch Viva and Barnes.
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It's a great, it was one of the best podcasts, in my opinion.
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Let me see how much of this, the following you agree with.
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Number one, that every vaccination is a different risk management decision.
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Such that, let's say you had lots of experience with chickenpox vaccination.
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What does it tell you about measles vaccinations?
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Now, I've said that the risk of COVID is a risk to the economy.
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Let me, I know I'm going to get a pushback on this.
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So let me put that out there and see your comments.
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Is it because the data suggests that it's a risk to the economy?
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If you're thinking, Scott, Scott, Scott, we shouldn't have closed the economy, that's the wrong answer.
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What we should or shouldn't do is irrelevant to your risk management decision.
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What you should do is not part of the conversation.
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And everybody might have a different opinion of what we should do.
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So should is a word that shouldn't be part of your calculation.
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Given the government we have, and we can't change it, right?
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The government we have, the public we have, the risks that we have.
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If COVID started killing, you know, way more people than it is at the moment because we just opened everything up and dropped all the restrictions.
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And I don't know if that would make a difference, but let's just say it does.
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And maybe if you were in charge, you wouldn't close the economy.
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The people who are in charge will feel that they'll lose their jobs if too many people die.
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So their incentive, as government officials, their incentive, unfortunately, doesn't align with yours.
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Your incentive is to run your life with a risk management that you feel comfortable with.
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Their incentive is not for you to run your life with your own risk reward.
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Their incentive is to have the fewest number of people die or get hospitalized.
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So they're not about the same risk management calculation you're about.
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You getting drafted might be really bad for you, but that's not why they did it.
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They drafted you to go in the war for the nation's benefit.
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So the individual calculation and the government's calculation will always be different in this kind of situation.
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And you can't change the fact that they will manage to the lowest number of deaths.
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So if COVID went wild or wilder or was completely uncontrolled and there were, let's say, no vaccinations or anything else, would it close the economy?
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You just have to get the death rate up to a certain level and then everything would close again.
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We might be smarter about it, how we close things, but it's going to be a drag on the economy.
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The COVID vaccination did not have the same risk profile as any of the prior vaccinations.
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If we had the luxury of waiting five to 15 years of watching the COVID vaccination before making it more mandatory, or at least requiring it for certain things, I suppose, we'd love to do that.
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If we had the luxury to wait five or 15 years to just watch this COVID vaccination to feel really safe about it, we'd all love that.
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One of the choices is you better do something pretty quick or you're in trouble.
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So the moment you say, well, let's treat them like they're somehow this similar class of risk, completely wrong.
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They might be a similar risk, but remember, your individual risk,
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has nothing to do with what the government does, because they don't care about your individual risk.
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So you might say to yourself, well, I got a kid.
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My kids, no way they're going to get COVID and die.
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You know, so, you know, kids, of course, I think, have to be their own class for analysis.
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I don't think you make one rule and it applies to kids and it applies to everybody, but we're not.
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We are making different rules for different ages, as we should.
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So let's see if we can agree with the following statements.
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Nobody, including our experts, are super good at evaluating risks.
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Nobody, including our experts, are super good at evaluating risks.
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We're all bad at it, even the experts, because there's a little bit of guessing going on, right?
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But there are some things that you as an individual can make a decision on without knowing all the risks.
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Do you need to know everything about your risks to make a good decision about your own personal freedom?
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You get to make that decision unless the government tries to stop it.
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So I think that comparing the vaccination to any other is bad thinking because the risk profiles are different and we should not expect that we would treat them the same.
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If the risk of COVID is more immediate and affects the economy and maybe it's a bigger population of people who die, I don't know if that's true, but if you believe it is true, you would treat them differently.
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And one of the things you might do is rush a vaccination.
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Something you would never do if you had the luxury of waiting, but you don't.
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Already there are several companies that make them, but this new one, Akon, it's going to double the capacity and you'll get a, looks like it's a nasal swab and you get a, you get a answer in 15 minutes.
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Somebody is going to win a Pulitzer Prize for figuring out why this hasn't already been done because here are the problems we didn't have.
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We didn't have a problem with money, capacity, science, know-how, anything.
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We didn't have any, we didn't have any, we didn't have any obstacles.
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I mean, not, we didn't have any obstacles that would have stopped us from having the same availability as some European countries already have.
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We had no more obstacles than they did and probably more resources.
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Now, I understand that Scott Gottlieb's book may attribute it to bureaucracy.
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And I'm not sure he's talking about the same thing.
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Because you know what also stopped, would have stopped vaccinations?
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Are you telling me that the bureaucracy approved super, let's say, provocative or controversial vaccinations on a, you know, compressed timeline?
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You're telling me the bureaucracy got that done.
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And they couldn't approve tests which would have essentially no risk.
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So the bureaucracy can approve the hardest thing you could possibly ever approve, rapid vaccinations.
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And they couldn't approve a test that doesn't even affect your body.
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Trust me, you know, there are a few people who appreciate the power of the bureaucracy more than the creator of Dilbert.
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So somebody's going to get a Pulitzer Prize for digging into that and finding out who it was and what their benefit was for stopping it.
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There's a, you know, the book Peril that everybody's talking about by Woodward.
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John Dickerson of CBS News talks about, he says,
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Is there an actual written transcript of an actual private conversation between Pelosi and Milley?
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But, so we don't know the details of this story.
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Are you aware that when people are quoted in books,
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How many of you know that when you see somebody's exact words in quotes in an article or a book,
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chances are, very high, like maybe 85%, that they didn't say that?
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Did you know it was high as, you know, that's just my experience.
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In other words, the journalist or writer talks to the subject for a long period of time
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and then says to himself, well, he said three or four things about this topic,
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but they were kind of long and they don't fit into a quote.
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I'm going to put quotes around it because I feel like I've captured the essence of what he was trying to say.
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And I'll just put a quote around it so it doesn't look like I'm saying it.
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Do you know how many times I've seen my own words with quotation marks around them in articles?
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How many of those times did I actually say the actual sentence that's in the quote?
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you're really going to be confused about what's really happening.
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You know the Adams Law of slow-moving disasters?
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It says that if society can see a big problem coming for long enough,
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Even though it looks like we don't have enough time and we're rushing against the rising temperatures,
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Number one, a company called Dimensional Energy.
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They're making jet fuel, which is the hardest thing to replace.
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If you're trying to get to a low-carbon situation, it's hard to replace jet fuel
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because you can't do it with a battery except for small planes.
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But for a big jet, we don't yet have a battery capacity for that.
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But this company, Dimensional Energy, sucks the CO2 out of the air,
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puts it through a chemical process, and creates jet fuel out of the air.
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But they chemically translate it into jet fuel.
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And apparently they are going to power this whole thing with the sun.
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So they'll have a big sun factory out in the desert somewhere or someplace remote.
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And the sun will burn down and create enough energy to translate this CO2
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that they've sucked out of the air into jet fuel.
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Now, jet fuel is one of the bigger contributors to climate change.
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They think that at a scale, once they build a bigger operation,
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they can get the cost of a gallon of jet fuel down to a dollar.
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this is the only way we're going to make jet fuel.
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We're not going to make jet fuel any other way,
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but I'm sure it's as much or more than a tank of gas for your car
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so we don't have to wonder about the technology.
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if you can actually do this as inexpensively as they claim,
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Climate change is just an engineering problem now.
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You get a bunch of engineers to build a bunch of these plants,
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you reduce the water use by something like 90%.
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And they can substantially reduce the cost of food,
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you could build one of these facilities or more
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And I think this is part of the answer to housing
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and they can't serve him the subpoenas they want to