Episode 1540 Scott Adams: Persuasion Lessons Taken From Today's Headlines. Find Out What You've Been Doing Wrong
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Summary
In this episode, Dr. Aaron Sorkin explains how hypnosis can improve your antibodies, and how it could improve your overall well-being. Listen to this episode to find out if hypnosis is real, and if it can help you get rid of stress.
Transcript
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Wow. Wow. You made it. Good job, everybody. You made it to the best place in the universe
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and just in time. What are the odds that you would have the space and the time correct?
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Both of them, space and time. Very good. Because all of you are smarter than the average person
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and you know that there's no such thing as time. There's only space time. Yeah. Yeah. Remember
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to remind people that when they talk about time. Say, there's no time. Time? That's not
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even a thing. Listen to some Einstein sometime. There's space time. Sure. But I didn't hear
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you talk about space time, did I? Yeah. Don't be that person. But you can if you want to
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be. Now, what would it take to make this amazing, amazing experience that we're all about to
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have together? And no, stop tinkling. Stop. Stop. Some of you are already getting chills.
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Don't don't peak too soon. Stay with me. Stay with me. This is going to get so good so fast.
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You don't want to get ahead of me. But all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tank or
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Chelsea Stein, a canteen drink or glass, a vessel of any kind, any kind this time. Fill it with
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your favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure. Unparalleled.
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It's called the simultaneous sip. It's going to happen now. And it makes everything better,
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Let me ask you this. How many of you believe that hypnosis could improve your antibodies?
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In the comments, without, don't Google it. No cheating. No Googling. How many of you think
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that hypnosis could improve your antibodies? Seeing some yeses? Seeing some noes? How about
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over on YouTube? I doubt that. 100%. Here's the answer. It can. It turns out it can. Surprising,
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right? Now, the way that it does it is probably just by de-stressing you. Okay? Now it sounds
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more realistic, right? Yeah. I don't think it's a placebo. I think it works because if you de-stress
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yourself, you get stronger immune response. Is everybody on board with that simple claim
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of fact? I think if you Google it, you'll see plenty of support for the idea that if you
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get rid of your stress, your immune system can be a little bit optimized, right? There's
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no doubt about that, is there? And is there any doubt that hypnosis could help you relax?
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Not really. I mean, hypnosis will work better with some people than others, but there's no
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such thing as somebody who could sit there quietly for 45 minutes listening to a hypnotist and not
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come away a little bit relaxed, right? I don't think in the history of hypnosis, I've never heard
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of an example of somebody who became more anxious because they got hypnotized. I mean, it's a big world.
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I suppose it happened somewhere, maybe once. But yes, absolutely, hypnosis could improve your
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immune response just by making you more relaxed. Now, could it do it more directly? I don't know.
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I don't know. Because, you know, your brain and your body are kind of almost magical in the sense that
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we don't understand how they work. I have a hypothesis that I've been working on for years
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that your intentions can change your body state. Your intentions. Now, I don't know that that's true.
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It's one of those things that it could be false pattern recognition or something. But it does feel
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as though people's intentions end up manifesting in some physical way. Just an impression,
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not based on any science or anything like that. But I would not rule out the possibility that some
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people could be directly hypnotized to increase their immune response. I would guess maybe 20% of
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the public. Because 20% is about the percentage that have extreme responses to hypnosis. So if the
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mind-body connection is what we think it is, there's probably some way to turn up the antibody production
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part. You know, if there's a brain connection, I'm not even sure if there is one beyond the relaxation
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component. So anyway, I just put that out there because I was thinking of maybe doing that.
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I could do a group hypnosis. Now, it wouldn't be as effective as one person working with one
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subject. Because if you're working with one person, you adjust as you go to how they're responding.
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But probably I could do a group hypnosis someday. I'd do a special live stream or record it. And
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if I worked on enough people, you know, let's say I got, I don't know, let's say I went a little bit
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viral and we got 100,000 people to watch it eventually. Do you think that out of 100,000 people,
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I couldn't raise the antibody count on some of you? Because I would take that bet. I certainly
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wouldn't say it's going to work on everybody. That would be kind of crazy. But if I do 100,000 people,
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and they just, you know, take the time to sit through a hypnosis induction, and it won't be the
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kind of hypnosis where you forget where you were, or, you know, I take control of your life and you
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send me money or anything like that. It would just be relaxation. Just pure relaxation. I'm seeing
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references to, is it Wim Hoffman? How do you say his first name? Wim, right? And he's, yeah, Wim Hoff.
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So he's got a method of breathing, which I hear good things about all the time. I'm pretty sure
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he's backed by science. I haven't looked into it in the depth that I need to. By the way, you know,
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I always tell you that I have this weird life where it doesn't matter what story you're talking
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about in the news, I have some connection to it. That's one of the reasons I think we live in a
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simulation. Because it isn't possible, I could have so many connections to so many stories.
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So, you know, you're talking about, you know, Wim Hoff, and, Wim Hoff, sorry. And I went to an event
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one time in San Francisco, before I'd heard of him, or his method. And I was introduced to him. And,
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you know, I didn't know anybody else there at the time. And I guess he didn't know too many people at
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the time, or he wanted to talk to me. And I ended up chatting with him for a pretty long time. And
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heard about his methods in person, which is weird, because I didn't know he was famous. I just thought
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he was a guy talking about some breath control stuff. And I thought, oh, that's good. And then
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it turns out he was, he was Wim Hoff. So he turns out to be one of the most, well, not one of,
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the most famous person associated with this breathing technique. But I didn't know it at the time.
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So is that the simulation? Like, how is it that I can keep meeting people, just by coincidence,
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that are at the center of, like, all these big topics? It's really weird. Because that was a
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completely random encounter. Well, maybe not totally random. All right. So how about California
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and the West Coast? Let me give you an update of how we're doing. You know, you've heard we've got
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problems in California. Has anybody heard of that? We got your homelessness, your high taxes,
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you got your drugs, your crime, you got your massive forest fires, your lack of electricity.
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Of course, we've got a drought and water shortage, a pandemic and runaway inflation.
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But if nothing else hits us, I think we can handle it. I mean, we're a tough state. You know,
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California is a tough state. You can make fun of us. Sure. But we're a tough state. We can handle
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homelessness. Taxes, drugs, crimes, forest fires, lack of energy, no water, pandemic, runway inflation,
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and traffic. We can handle all that. I just hope nothing else is coming our way.
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All right. Let's check the headlines. Okay. There's a bomb cyclone coming our way in California.
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A bomb cyclone. So I think we can conclude that California has pissed off God in some way that
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is not entirely evident to me. But it's obvious we're cursed at this point. You know, you could
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try to write this off as science or coincidence, but no, I think we're cursed. So the bomb cyclone's
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coming this way. So far, the weather is disturbingly not bad. So far, it's just sort of a light rain
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where I live. I'm in Northern California. Just sort of a light rain. But I feel like it's going to get
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a lot worse really quickly and probably today. But we need the water. So if the bomb cyclone
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washes some things away, but we get a lot of water, probably we came out ahead. All right. We've got to
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talk about the Alec Baldwin situation. We know a little bit more. And I will tell you that
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as the story emerges, you know, the fog of war starts clearing out. Let's see if your opinion about
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the people involved changes. Now, one thing we know is that the young woman who is, or the young
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they, I'll say the young they, who is handling the guns and was in charge of the safety of the guns
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for the film, apparently was not very experienced. 24 years old and doesn't seem to be a member of
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the NRA, but that's just a guess. And I guess the circumstances are that the gun, either that gun
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or ones in the group had misfired a couple times. The crew had already complained about the safety
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problems. And I guess the specific setup is that they were lining up a camera shot in which they wanted
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to have the camera look down the barrel of the gun, or, you know, at least that view of the actor.
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And so Alec Baldwin was instructed to aim the gun in the direction of the camera-ish, and it went off.
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Now, what's still missing in the story, unless somebody has heard it, was, did he pull the trigger?
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How does a gun misfire in the first place? Is there anybody who knows enough about firearms
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to tell me how a gun would misfire? Somebody said it didn't, quote, go off. Yeah, we'll talk about
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responsibility in a moment. Yeah, the way the news is talking about it is just delayed ignition of the
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bullet. Hmm. You've got to pull the trigger, somebody says. It can't without the hammer striking.
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But what if, now, is there any chance that the hammer was pulled back? There's no evidence of that,
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right? So I think there's more news we need to learn about this. Not that that fact would
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necessarily change what we think. But, so, let's say if we were based on what we know now,
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let's do a little speculating. If it's true that Alec Baldwin was handed a gun and told that it was
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cold, so he believed that it was blanks, and if he was told by the director who, or the director of
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photography, I think it was, to point in that direction, probably the director said it as well,
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and he believed that the gun had been checked out, and it was just lighting it up for a shoot,
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how guilty do you think he is if the gun misfired? I don't know. I don't even know what that means,
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to misfire. It was a revolver, right? Yeah. 100% guilty, everybody says. 100% guilty? 100% guilty.
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Yeah, the NRA answer to that, if I could put it that way, you know, the gun owner answer,
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and I've been having this conversation with someone else, and somebody was trying to suggest,
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I won't name names because I don't want to bring in personalities, but would suggest that the
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responsibility was at least partially, at least partially, the gun armorer person, the person
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who was in charge of making sure it didn't have a loaded round, and what do you who actually know
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about guns say to that? You say the same thing I said. It's 100% the responsibility of the person
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who has it in their hand, even if somebody else screwed up. We're all on the same page on that,
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right? It's always 100% responsibility of the person with the gun in their hand. Always. It's never 99.
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It's always 100%. It's also 100% of the person who handed it to them. So if one person has 100%
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of responsibility, the person who has it in their hand, that doesn't absolve anybody else. You know,
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they have their own kind of responsibility. Likewise, if the person who handed it to them
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is 100% wrong, it doesn't change in any way the actor's own responsibility. Now, I certainly feel
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for him because the context of how it happened wasn't an ordinary gun ownership thing. He had delegated
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responsibility. He thought that was good enough. It wasn't. It wasn't. So let me ask you this
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question. How many NRA members would it have taken to be on that crew to have prevented this with a
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pretty high degree of confidence? You couldn't be sure. But how many would it take anywhere on the
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crew? And we'll even say just the lowest member of the crew. You know, somebody, the gaffers or I
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don't know, whoever is the lowest member of the crew. Yeah, yeah. Everybody who understands guns
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says the same answer. One. Exactly one. Do you know, what would you have done if you knew that this
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group of guns had misfired twice? You would take them away. You'd probably take them away, wouldn't you?
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Like physically take them away? Now, I guess some people walked out. Was that the right answer?
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I think walking out is what you do if you're not a member of the NRA. All right. Now, of course, I'm
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I'm being a little hyperbolic. You know, in the real world, people don't have as much power as they
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might want to. Depends on personalities, etc. But I like to think that if there would have been even
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one NRA member there, they would have just gone nuts on that place. Right? The amount of energy
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somebody who knew what they were talking about, gun wise, would have put into that situation,
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it should be a lot. Like, I don't think it would have just been talking to the director.
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Right? I don't think it would have been just talking to the boss. I don't think it would have
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been just complaining. I think they would have physically stood in front of the guns. Right?
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I think they would have stood in front of the guns and say, for safety reasons,
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nobody's getting near these things. Am I wrong? You put one NRA member there, doesn't matter what
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their role is, they would walk and stand in front of the gun supply and say, no, we're done here.
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These aren't going anywhere. Right? Now, you would have to have a certain kind of personality to do
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that, you know, certain risk profile. But I'd like to know the answer to the question if they had
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one NRA member. Just one. I'll bet the answer is no. You can't be sure, but I'll bet.
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All right. If Alec Baldwin has responsibility, obviously, it would be in the sense that he didn't
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put the right people in charge. He was a producer. So I do think he's going to have some,
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he's probably his insurance company, or he are going to be on the hook for a lot, I think.
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But it will be an interesting case. We'll probably learn a lot. All right. I've been noticing with
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happiness that the internet dads are getting pretty involved in the fentanyl question. Do you know who
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the internet dads are? I use that term loosely to include people like myself. Now, it's not my own
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description of me, but it's other people's description of a set of people who, somewhat
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accidentally, nobody set out to do this, but became kind of almost dad-like influences to people
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who maybe needed a little extra or didn't have any. You know, I would put Mike Cernovich in that
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category, put myself in that category. And you can name a bunch of other people who easily feel like
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internet dads at this point, just giving you some, or at least trying to give you some life advice.
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And we see them getting more involved lately in the fentanyl question. I saw, I saw Michael
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Schellenberger is going at it hard, especially, and he's got a new book, San Francisco. I want to get
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him on and do a book review, but I don't want to do that with a live stream. I'll have to do that
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off live. But, you know, the question is getting bigger and bigger, and the right people are talking
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about it. And I wanted to run through, for the benefit of my audience, yeah, Jack Murphy, another
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good example. I'm going to run through this, a bunch of myths that the internet dads don't have, right?
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This is things that the people you're calling the internet dads, this is stuff they understand,
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but maybe the public doesn't, okay? And so I just want to run through this. And I'll start with this.
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I asked this question on Twitter, and of course it's an unscientific poll. I said, is your life deeply
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constrained or ruined by a drug addict or alcoholic who is close to you? Close to you, right? How many people
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in my unscientific poll, which are mostly conservatives, by the way, mostly conservatives,
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that's the people who follow me on Twitter? If you're new to me, I'm not, I don't identify as
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conservative, but my audience does. 22% of them, last I checked, said yes. 22% have their lives
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deeply constrained or ruined. Deeply constrained or ruined. 22%. Deeply constrained or ruined. 22%.
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Do you feel that? You can't do anything to 22% of the country without a big effect on the rest of
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it, right? There's nothing that affects that many people that doesn't affect the rest of it. And keep
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in mind, this is my conservative followers. You don't think this is a little bit worse on the left?
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So let's say it's a quarter of the public is being influenced by somebody addicted. Probably 10% or more
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are addicted to... How many people are addicted? Does anybody know that? What percentage of the general
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population are addicted? 10%? Is it more now? I mean, it could be 50% depending on what drugs you're
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including. You know, if you throw in cigarettes and alcohol and everything else. Yeah, I feel like
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it's 20, 30% is what it feels like, depending on how you count it. But so that's how bad it is. Now,
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let me tell you the myths that people have around there now that you know how big it is.
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A lot of people, and you'll see this on internet, will tell you that good parenting will save your
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teen. Good parenting will keep your teen from getting into trouble with fentanyl or overdosing.
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No. No. That is a hard no. I do believe there are some edge cases where maybe somebody's a little
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bit inclined, but you know, the best parenting in the world could keep them safe. So yes, in the narrow,
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narrow sense that there are some kids and some families in some specific situations where doing
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all the right things parent-wise would help. So you should definitely try to do all the right
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things parent-wise. It could help, but it would depend mostly on your kid. Do you think you could
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have taken my stepson and fixed him up? I'm going to tell you what that would have looked like in a
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minute. Because if you think you could have fixed my stepson by your good parenting, my God, you
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haven't met many people. All right. So let me clear that up for you in a minute. All right. Here's some
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more myths. Counseling would help. Get a good therapist, get a good counselor, and they can fix
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things. Nope. Nope. Do you know why the counselor doesn't help? I'm just going to use my now deceased
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stepson as my example. We're going to make you go to counseling. I don't want to go to counseling. We're
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going to make you go to counseling. All right. But when I'm done, I'm going to go back to using. No, we're
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going to make you go to counseling, and that will fix you, and then you won't use. Okay. I'm just telling you that
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when I'm done with the counseling, I'm going to go back to doing drugs and drinking and stuff. No. The
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counseling. Counseling. So you send them to counseling. He goes through the hours, and the moment he walks out,
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he uses again. Just like he said. Exactly like he said. Now you say to yourself, all right, dealing with you like an
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adult isn't going to work. All right. We got to take this to the next level. I'm going to start punishing you if you're
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hanging around with the people who use, or we find out you're using, or we discover anything in your
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room, right? We're going to punish you until you stop the behavior. Number one, you're grounded.
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All right. I'm going to kill myself. I'm going to kill myself because I'm grounded.
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What do you do? What do you good parents do? All you smart ones. He's tried to kill himself twice.
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Like literally. Literally twice. So you're going to lock him in his room. He says, if you put me in
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here, I'm going to kill myself. How's that? You're good parents? You're going to do that? How's that
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work? Take away his phone. He says, I'm going to kill myself. And you know what? He means it. He means
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it. He's not bluffing. Tried it twice. Right? How uncommon is it for your addict to say they'll kill
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themselves and mean it? Not uncommon. And how many of you have heard this, this? It's not uncommon and
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it's real. And they will try to kill themselves. It's absolutely real. And you know why you know
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that they will try to kill themselves? Because their drug addiction is basically slow suicide.
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They're already killing themselves. You don't have to wonder if they have the mental state to kill
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themselves. You're watching it happen in real time. They are killing themselves. It's just slow.
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And they're taking the chance that they'll die and they don't care. Did he care that he might die of
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an overdose? He didn't. He didn't. Sometimes he would act like he did. But honestly, he didn't.
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And you could tell. How soon did I know I would have an addiction problem with my stepson?
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How young was he when I knew I'd have the problem? About five. About five years old, it was obvious.
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You could see it coming like a train. Because at five years old, he would tell us how much he wanted
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to drink to oblivion. At six years old, still saying, yeah, I just want to drink till I pass out.
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Can't wait to do drugs. He would say it explicitly and often, and there was nothing you could do to talk
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him out of it. He was born to do drugs. I mean, I've never seen anybody who was so intent on doing
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everything wrong. Secondly, his personality was such that if anything was the right thing you're
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supposed to do, he would do the other thing and aggressively. It wouldn't matter what you told him.
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You'd say, if you do this, you're in big trouble. If you do this, you're not. You would do the big
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trouble thing every time. Every time. No exceptions. What do you do with that? All right. So you say
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to yourself, my God, you're going to have to take it up to the next level. You're going to have to
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actually take him to some kind of facility, some kind of program where they're really like, you know,
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maybe it's like boot camp for kids or something. You know, you've heard of these where they can
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they can sort of force the kid into a situation where they can't leave and, you know, they're going
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to really get the tough love they need and they won't have access to the drugs. So just sign them up
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for one of the programs, right? Right? Because that's all you got left. How many of you would
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say, okay, because most of you are second guessing now, I know. So those of you are second guessing
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me, how many of you say that at this point, your only thing you can do is to sign them up
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for some kind of a tough program where they basically would take away his freedom for a while.
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But, you know, at least it would be tough love. How many think that's a good idea? No matter what
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you call it, you could call it military school or whatever you want to call it. But how many think
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that's a good idea? I have to swear at you now, with all due respect. I have to curse.
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There's no such fucking thing. The thing you think will fix it doesn't exist. There is no fucking
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program that you can take a California teenager to. None. Zero. Nothing. You have no legal recourse.
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You have no asset. No money in the fucking world. I could have taken five million fucking dollars
00:27:18.840
and put it toward this problem. It would have made zero difference. There's no place you can
00:27:24.180
take them. No facility exists. No medical treatment. No path. No person. No expert. Nothing.
00:27:32.260
You're on your fucking own as a parent. And you don't have anything you can do except wait
00:27:38.700
and watch and prepare to bury your fucking kid. That's all you have. You get that?
00:27:46.160
Now, those of you saying, but, you know, screw the kid. Free will. It's his own fault.
00:27:53.740
If you think that, you don't know anything about addicts. You don't know anything about human
00:27:58.260
nature. You don't know anything about psychology. And you don't know anything about physics. And
00:28:03.060
you don't know anything about psychology. But a lot of you have that feeling. No. People don't
00:28:11.700
have free will to stop drugs. It has to be done by somebody else. Now, some people can
00:28:17.880
be, find themselves in the situation in which they hit bottom. And then the situation is
00:28:24.300
changed. And then sometimes they can get better on their own. But there's nothing you can do.
00:28:29.900
You can't do that. Sometimes it happens by accident. And even, you know, it's not good,
00:28:34.620
but it happens. But you can't make that happen. You have no ability whatsoever. All right? Addicts
00:28:42.040
do what addicts do, and you can't change it. That's it. All right. Other people say, well,
00:28:49.900
you could at least stay away from fentanyl. I mean, you could at least make sure you don't
00:28:54.300
do any fentanyl. No, you cannot. The people dying of fentanyl did not know it was in their
00:29:00.300
products or did not know how much of it was in their products. They thought they were doing
00:29:04.840
cocaine. They thought they were doing Xanax. Or even they thought they were doing fake Xanax,
00:29:09.020
but they didn't think it was fentanyl. They're doing other stuff and thinking they're not getting
00:29:13.860
fentanyl. Or if they are, their friend took it, so it must be okay. And then they die. No,
00:29:19.880
you cannot avoid fentanyl if you're an addict. If you're an addict, you're going to take drugs,
00:29:26.400
and it's going to be in the drugs. That's the whole story. You can say to yourself, as I said
00:29:32.280
to my son a few weeks before he died, I had lunch with him, and I said, promise me just one thing.
00:29:38.840
You won't take street drugs that you don't know what's in them. That's the only thing I'm going to
00:29:44.320
ask, because I feel like I could get that from you. And he said, yes, absolutely. Because I understand
00:29:51.700
that the street drugs very often have fentanyl in them, and I understand that fentanyl will kill
00:29:57.080
me. So I will not take those drugs. And then he took those drugs and died a few weeks later.
00:30:09.280
Here's the other big myth. You had good results with your kid, so therefore you know how to parent,
00:30:18.040
and I don't. I'm sorry. If you had good results with your kid, you might be a great parent. I
00:30:26.460
wouldn't take that away from you. But it's because you had a good kid, right? The kid is what makes
00:30:33.720
the thing turn out well. You could ruin it, but you're not really the one who's making it happen,
00:30:40.640
right? The genetics of the kid and your situation in general are going to be 80% of what happens to
00:30:47.320
that kid. You're about 20% tops. So how about a little humility about how much you contributed,
00:30:54.340
although your genes might be good. If your genetics are the reason you got a good result,
00:30:59.400
good for you. But it wasn't your parenting. Your parenting could break something, but it's not
00:31:04.420
going to fix an addict. All right. That's what I want to say on that topic. Sorry that was such a
00:31:15.600
downer. But I think it's important. It's a downer, but important. All right. Do you remember I've
00:31:21.980
given you some ways to predict things? Some of them don't make any sense, but they're fun to watch.
00:31:27.840
One of the ways to predict that doesn't make any sense, but it's very predictive, or at least it
00:31:33.580
seems like it. You know, it's anecdotal. So maybe it's just confirmation bias. Is that the best story
00:31:39.480
usually wins? The best story usually wins. So if, let's say there's a competition of some kind,
00:31:46.400
let's say the best story is Tom Brady getting kicked off of his football team that he's won a
00:31:53.620
bunch of championships on. He's way too old. He goes to another team that wasn't expected to win,
00:31:59.340
and he takes them all the way to the Super Bowl and beats his old team. I don't know if that happened
00:32:04.160
exactly, but I'm giving you an example of something that if you saw it developing, you'd say, oh, you
00:32:08.900
know, the best story here, the best story here would be if this aging hero had, you know, one more win.
00:32:16.740
And then he does. And the number of times you can say, you know, the best, the coolest outcome here
00:32:23.120
would be, and then you watch how often the coolest outcome happens. So I say this because Raul Davis,
00:32:31.200
Twitter user and CEO branding expert, had reminded me when, I guess the World Series was on, or the,
00:32:39.920
yeah, is that right? I don't watch sports. The World Series just happened, right? I think.
00:32:47.380
But before it happened, he mentioned to me, Raul did, that Major League Baseball had pulled the game
00:32:56.580
from, the All-Star game from Atlanta, but then it was Atlanta who was in the World Series. And so Raul said,
00:33:03.540
you know, the best story would be that the All-Star game gets pulled from Atlanta, and then Atlanta
00:33:11.080
Oh, is that, wait, am I reading the story wrong?
00:33:22.980
Oh, they responded with the first World Series. Does that mean that the World Series is going
00:33:27.260
to be held there? As opposed to, oh, so they're just in it. It's the playoffs that just happened?
00:33:35.380
Oh, so it's the playoffs. So, all right, so I got this story wrong. That's how much of a nada sports
00:33:41.340
guy I am. So they got into the World Series. They haven't won the World Series, right? All right,
00:33:48.460
so if you were to predict based on best story wins, you'd predict they win. So thank you for
00:33:56.480
correcting me. So here's another example of the, you know, I just talked about this, that collectively
00:34:01.000
we form sort of a brain, like an intelligence. You know, I have some general notions, and then
00:34:07.080
you fix them or correct them or refine them. It's really kind of interesting watching literally
00:34:13.480
a new form of intelligence. Has this ever existed before? Because technologically, this couldn't
00:34:20.780
have existed before, right? At least not in this scale. It's like, how many people are watching?
00:34:26.760
Let's see, we've got 2,100 over there and 500 here. So let's say we've got 2,700 people
00:34:33.860
who are this collective brain at the moment. Kind of cool. Anyway, I don't think there's
00:34:40.540
any reason that the best story always wins, except I'll speculate. If it's true, and if it
00:34:47.940
were some way that you could actually, you know, measure it to see if it's true, I think it
00:34:54.000
would be because people are story creatures. That we're also trained by stories, maybe naturally
00:35:02.740
because we evolved that way, but also because we reinforce it by reading stories and watching
00:35:07.240
movies and hearing stories. So we're just story people. And because we're story people, we
00:35:12.400
all have a sense of what a good story is, right? You can tell if the movie has a good story
00:35:17.540
or not. Everybody can tell that. So I feel like we're all biased toward making the better
00:35:23.140
story happen, even if it's not good for us. Oh yeah, McGregor didn't beat the boxer. Yeah.
00:35:28.940
That was a good example, although there was such a mismatch in talent that that's probably,
00:35:34.760
you know, the exception to the rule kind of thing. Yeah. If there's a gigantic difference
00:35:39.840
in talent, yeah, then it's not predictive. Um, all right. So follow the money works that
00:35:49.900
way too. Um, I won't give you the example, but recently there was an example where something
00:35:54.440
happened that wasn't because of the money as far as I could tell, but the money would
00:36:00.000
have predicted it. So watch how many times that happens. There's somebody who does something
00:36:05.040
and you're pretty sure it wasn't because of the money, but coincidentally, it also was
00:36:11.900
where the money would have suggested things would have gone. It's, it's almost an unbreakable
00:36:17.020
pattern. Joe Desenia's program would have fixed Scott's kids. No, it wouldn't have because
00:36:25.140
he wouldn't have gotten in it. All right. All right. Here's a persuasion secret I learned
00:36:32.940
as a data analyst. So I spent many years in the corporate world, uh, analyzing data and
00:36:39.380
then explaining it to management and whoever needed to see it. So my job was to take complicated
00:36:45.580
things and simplify them so that somebody could make decisions. Now, uh, I apparently was born
00:36:53.640
with some kind of, uh, aptitude for simplification because you see that in all my work. So it seems
00:37:00.460
like I have some kind of natural talent for that, I guess, I mean, based on observation,
00:37:04.620
I would think so. So cartooning is about simplifying, uh, writing well is about simplifying. And I would
00:37:13.240
say that doing this is about simplifying. Well, knowing when to expand and when to simplify. So
00:37:18.620
it's a little more complicated, but, um, a good data analysis visualization puts you in charge.
00:37:30.020
Now here's something you've never, most of you have never realized, but I'll bet. So I'm going to ask
00:37:34.820
the people who, uh, who have corporate experience or big organization experience. So those of you with
00:37:40.880
corporate experience, I need you to back me on this because those of you who don't have it,
00:37:44.700
aren't going to believe this at all. All right. It's going to be obvious to corporate people,
00:37:48.960
not obvious to the rest of you. The person who makes the best chart is in control. That's your
00:37:58.180
leader. The person who makes the best visualization. Now when I say best, uh, look at all the yeses.
00:38:06.540
So, uh, all the people with corporate experience are agreeing. You can see it go by true, true,
00:38:11.980
true, true. It's one of those things people don't talk about, but it's true. I'll give you an
00:38:17.760
example. So when I was doing data analysis, uh, I was in charge of, uh, the data analysis to do a
00:38:23.880
lease or purchase for mainframes and servers and the backend technology for the bank. And so the
00:38:30.580
technical people would say, you know, what they needed. And then they would say, we could get it
00:38:34.760
this way or that way. We could lease it or buy it. And we could get it from IBM or somebody else.
00:38:38.680
And then I would take that information and do the analysis and figure out which one it was.
00:38:44.380
Well, as I was doing that work, I thought, God, it's too complicated to figure out what to do when.
00:38:50.820
And so I'll make a visualization that shows all of our equipment that's coming off lease
00:38:55.920
or is ready to be replaced. And you'll have a timeline that's, you know, a three-dimensional
00:39:01.300
timeline where you can really, really plan, you know, when you're going to be, um, having to retire
00:39:08.380
a lot of stuff. And when you don't, because if you had to retire a lot of stuff, you could have a
00:39:13.940
capital budget that, that, uh, that was appropriate to how much had to be replaced. Now this didn't
00:39:20.040
exist, right? There was no existence of a good visualization to show what to do when. So I took
00:39:28.540
it to my boss and said, Hey, I'd like to show this to the senior vice president in charge of
00:39:32.400
everything and, uh, you know, show him that there's a path to figure out how to do this, these upgrades
00:39:38.960
in a more rational way. My boss said, uh, you know, nobody asked you to do that. And so, you know,
00:39:47.480
nobody asked you to do that, right? The boss did not ask for this. So I'm not going to show him this
00:39:52.540
because he didn't ask for it, but I was persuasive. They said, you know, what, he might like it.
00:39:58.340
Maybe you could just pass it, you know, pass it across his desk. So she went to the meeting,
00:40:04.900
she, uh, did hand it to him and he said, my God, this is the first time I've understood what's going
00:40:10.380
on. This is perfect. Do more of this. And from that moment, who was in charge of deciding what
00:40:19.060
equipment in the bank got replaced? I was, I was accidentally. I mean, it wasn't my plan,
00:40:27.420
but from the moment I was the one in charge of the visualization, I was the one who determined
00:40:32.900
what we did from that point on. Because I said, well, two years from now, you'd better make your
00:40:38.740
budget X because if you don't, you won't have enough. Right? So who was in charge? Was the senior
00:40:45.400
vice president in charge? Well, on paper he was, and he certainly had an option of doing things that
00:40:50.960
didn't make sense. He would have been fired, but he had the option because he was in charge.
00:40:55.800
But who was really in charge? The person who controlled the information and the person who
00:41:02.260
put it in a form that basically told you what to do. Right? Because once you knew that you had to
00:41:09.900
replace these in this date, well, you sort of had to. His options were constrained by what I allowed him
00:41:18.780
to know. I was in charge. Now, everybody who works in the corporate office knows this dynamic.
00:41:24.160
You know it's not the boss in charge. They're completely captive to the data.
00:41:30.440
So let's look at the question of the supply chain. I believe that since we have a leaderless situation
00:41:39.340
in particular, we don't even know who's in charge of fixing it. Right? Is it Pete Buttigieg? I don't
00:41:45.160
know. Or is he in charge of some of it, but not all of it? The states are mostly in charge.
00:41:51.780
I don't know. Do you? So we have basically a leaderless situation that's one of our biggest
00:41:57.200
problems. Somebody could take control of the situation with one good visualization.
00:42:05.120
Now, I have in my mind a sense of what it might be, but I'll tell you what it doesn't look like.
00:42:11.560
What it doesn't look like is the visualizations I've seen so far. The visualizations I've seen so
00:42:17.900
far are treating all of the various variables as somewhat the same. Meaning, here's a list of all
00:42:25.280
the reasons that we have a problem. It's just a list. A list of all the problems doesn't do anything.
00:42:35.120
Because you don't know which ones are the big ones. And even if you knew which ones are the big ones,
00:42:40.580
are they the ones you can fix? Or should you fix the little ones because they're fixable? And at
00:42:46.520
least you can do that. Right? A good visualization would answer all those questions. A good visualization
00:42:53.440
would show you something like a visual presentation of the problem. You know, that it may be in a
00:43:00.860
linear fashion of things go from here to here to here. And then it would have a sizing or possibly
00:43:07.240
a color indication of where the big opportunities are. And maybe different indications for both.
00:43:14.700
So it could be that there's a big problem. So that would show as a big bubble.
00:43:21.280
But maybe there's nothing you can do about it. Because you can't attack it first. But maybe there's
00:43:27.360
a smaller problem that is easy to get at that would fix the bigger problem if you could fix the
00:43:33.720
smaller one. Maybe. That's what the visualization would tell you. But here's the magic part.
00:43:40.200
Suppose you had the visualization with bubbles of different colors and sizes to tell you both
00:43:45.500
priority and whether or not there's something you can do about it. But also each one was labeled with
00:43:51.540
whose problem it is or who's in charge. And you label the biggest one, nobody in charge. And you publish it.
00:44:03.800
What happens? Well, if it becomes viral, because it's good, right? If it's not a really good
00:44:10.880
visualization, nothing happens. So you have to make a distinction between a bad visualization where
00:44:16.520
nothing happens and a great visualization, which people are capable of doing, right?
00:44:22.460
Ian Martizis, if I always pronounce your name right, wrong, sorry. But Ian, if you've seen his work on
00:44:29.220
here regarding COVID and stuff, if you see a professional data visualization person work,
00:44:36.140
it blows your freaking mind, right? Because you immediately realize how good, how not good you
00:44:42.700
are at it. I did it for a living, right? I did it for a living. And I'm not even close to how good a good,
00:44:50.720
a really good commercial visualizer would do it. Now, if somebody could do that and label it that the
00:44:57.080
biggest problem is leaderless, what would happen? Well, the news would say, oh, I finally understand this
00:45:04.060
for the first time. And what things do the news report? Does the news report things that the
00:45:10.100
reporters understand? Or does the news report things that they can't explain? Which one do they prefer
00:45:16.880
doing? Okay, obviously, rhetorical question. Reporters will report things they can report and
00:45:26.700
understand. If the data visualizer hands them that, they're all going to use it. They're all
00:45:34.440
going to use it, because it'll be the first time they understand it. If you can be the first person
00:45:39.460
to explain it to a journalist, you own the journalist. The journalist always owns the politicians,
00:45:48.020
because the politicians have to do things that will sound good when they're explained in the press,
00:45:51.820
or explain why they're not, right? So if you don't understand how power works, and by the way,
00:45:59.420
I have this conversation with a lot of people. A lot of people don't understand how power works.
00:46:04.820
They really don't. They imagine that the person who's in the box that has the job CEO,
00:46:11.300
they imagine they have the power, and in many ways they do. But it's such a simplified understanding
00:46:16.360
of power that you can really get off track. Here's the thing I say about the... everybody's
00:46:24.100
annoyed about the lockdowns and everything. And they're saying, oh, our government, damn our
00:46:31.160
government for requiring this. Nothing like that is happening. Not in my world. In my world,
00:46:38.580
the government isn't making you do jacks yet. Nothing. Your fellow citizens are making you do
00:46:44.060
that. Do you not realize that? It's not the government at all doing it. It's your fellow
00:46:50.900
citizens. If they did not support the government, it just wouldn't be happening, right? You have to
00:46:56.220
have some, like, solid percentage of support, or the government can't make you do anything.
00:47:01.040
If you think that convincing the government to change their mind is a productive path,
00:47:06.900
you're so wrong. You have to convince the other citizens, because they're in charge.
00:47:13.180
They're in charge. The government is not in charge of you wearing a frickin' mask. Be serious. Wake up.
00:47:22.300
They've never been in charge of that. They can't be in charge of that. It's not physically
00:47:26.880
possible. Your fellow citizens are in charge of that. They've decided by a large enough majority
00:47:34.860
that you're going to wear a mask for a while in some places. In other places, they decided not.
00:47:42.060
In Florida, apparently, they've decided they're not going to wear masks. So stop thinking that the
00:47:48.820
government's in power. They're not. Never will be. All right. So if we could get a good data analysis,
00:47:59.880
maybe we could fix this problem with the ports. And by the way, some of that data analysis might
00:48:04.840
focus on the empty containers. And I'm still seeing reports that it's not the empty container problem.
00:48:12.920
My belief is that the only credible person says that is the problem, that it probably is,
00:48:19.100
at least in the West Coast. Other places may be different. All right. Here's another one for you.
00:48:26.540
Dr. Anarchy on Twitter, who is very well named. No Twitter user has ever had a more appropriate
00:48:35.460
handle. He's Dr. Anarchy, not his real name. MD.
00:48:39.660
And the MD part is what gives you the anarchy in this. So here's his tweet. I'm going to let you
00:48:46.820
think about it for a moment. And be careful. All right. Just think about it for a moment before
00:48:53.100
you react. Here's the tweet. Horse dewormer and anti-malaria drugs have saved more lives than
00:49:06.340
Diabolical. Diabolical. Here's what you might have assumed until I warned you that there was a trick
00:49:19.020
coming. Horse dewormer and anti-malaria drugs have, in fact, saved more lives because he didn't
00:49:25.960
specify COVID. He didn't specify COVID. It is legitimately a fact that 100% of science would agree
00:49:33.820
with that horse dewormer and anti-malaria drugs have saved more lives than lockdowns and masks.
00:49:40.620
It's probably, I mean, I assume the data would back it up. But, you know, we can't know that for
00:49:46.680
sure. But what's diabolical about it is, first of all, you don't know for sure that that would even
00:49:50.860
be true. But second, you just leapt to the conclusion that he was only talking about COVID.
00:49:56.280
But he didn't specify. So was he? I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure what he intended,
00:50:06.440
But here's what you also need to know. And I'll give you a story here. So Michael Schellenberg was
00:50:21.020
tweeting about this today, that Britain's climate policy rested on the assumption that in 2050 there
00:50:28.060
would be just seven days per year when wind turbines produced less than 10% of the potential.
00:50:35.280
So the assumption is that wind turbines would be a good deal for Great Britain because the wind mostly
00:50:42.320
blows there most of the time. But in 2021, there have already been 65 such days. And in 2016,
00:50:52.580
there were 78 of them. All right, they're hoping for seven, and they got 10 times as many.
00:50:58.660
10 times as many. All right. So here's my persuasion lesson for the day.
00:51:11.200
Any data analysis has two parts, the data and then the assumptions. So if you've got data and you've
00:51:21.700
got assumptions and you put them together, then you've got a result that you could just... Let's
00:51:28.900
say the data is 100% accurate. And so you do the analysis with 100% accurate data. And let's say
00:51:38.000
you're also good at math and analysis. So your math and your analysis are spot on, no mistakes. And the
00:51:46.400
data, which is weird, is 100% perfect. So how good is your outcome? How good is your result? 100% good data
00:51:55.720
and 100% good analysis. Anybody? Anybody? How good is it? The correct answer is zero. No credibility
00:52:08.820
whatsoever. Because do you know what makes your analysis come out the way it comes out? Your
00:52:16.060
assumptions. Your assumptions. Every objective data analysis except maybe randomized controlled trials
00:52:26.420
in some situation. But as soon as you get away from that, as soon as you get away from the randomized
00:52:31.520
controlled trials, it's all subjective. It's all subjective. Because somebody picked the assumptions.
00:52:38.120
And whoever picked the assumptions knew that if they picked them differently, they get a different
00:52:43.420
outcome. So whoever picks the assumptions decides what the outcome is. Why do I know that? Because
00:52:49.700
that was my job for years. My job was data analysis, in which some of it was data, a lot of it was
00:52:56.840
estimates, and a lot of it was assumptions. And I could make it come out any way I wanted. It didn't matter
00:53:03.880
what the analysis was, I could make it come out good or bad, just by changing the assumptions.
00:53:09.440
I'm going to tell you something I did that I'm not proud of. I don't know if I've ever said this in
00:53:16.120
public before. I'm not proud of this. But it really happened. So when I was working for the phone
00:53:23.220
company, and I was also doing Dilbert in my spare time, my reputation as the Dilbert guy started
00:53:28.880
climbing. So people knew that I was, you know, mocking corporations at the same time I was working
00:53:34.660
for one. Well, as you can imagine, this was not popular with at least one member of senior management,
00:53:39.780
who learned that I was mocking big companies while working in his organization. So he told my
00:53:46.080
boss's boss to fire me immediately, because he heard I'd been saying some things in public
00:53:51.400
about management in general, not my management, just about managers and management. And to his
00:53:59.540
credit, my boss's boss, who was, let's see, he was a vice president, I guess. The vice president
00:54:07.200
told me later, I didn't know about it at the time, but he told me, I don't know, a year or two later,
00:54:12.640
that he had been asked to fire me. And he talked his boss out of it. And I didn't hear the exact
00:54:17.760
conversation, but I think it went like this. He said, no, no, no, we can't fire him for having a
00:54:22.440
sense of humor. You can't fire somebody for having an opinion and, you know, being, let's say, humorously
00:54:29.440
hyperbolic about it. You don't fire people for that. What you do is you move them onto projects,
00:54:36.880
and they'll quit on their own. You just give them a really bad project. They'll quit on their own. You
00:54:41.880
don't want to fire them for that. So I was moved. Now, I don't know that that conversation happened.
00:54:47.380
I do know that I was, instead of fired, I was transferred to a doomed project.
00:54:54.600
Now, this is the way corporations sometimes fire people. They'll move you to a project that has an
00:55:00.160
end date. And then when the project is over, they say, you know, we would love to put you back into
00:55:05.680
some other department, but we've got a hiring freeze on. So everybody in the project is done working at
00:55:12.000
this company. Yeah, the special assignment. So I was put on a special assignment with at least one
00:55:18.940
other person who was in the same boat. He was also just this close to being fired, but they said, nah,
00:55:24.180
we won't fire you. You've been a good employee up till now. So we'll put you on the doomed project.
00:55:29.200
It'll take care of itself. Guess what the doomed project was?
00:55:33.240
It was our job to do an analysis of whether the phone company should invest, I don't know,
00:55:40.260
some billions of dollars in a new technology called ISDN. Has anybody heard of it? Those of
00:55:47.680
you who were working in tech back in those days? Now, how good was ISDN? I want you to watch this in
00:55:54.800
the comments. Watch this. For those of you who lived through those times, and especially those of you
00:55:59.880
who were engineers or techies, how good was ISDN? And at the time, did you know it was the future?
00:56:09.260
It was absolute crap. It was probably one of the worst technologies ever made.
00:56:16.300
But it was the only thing that the phone company had or thought they had as an option for high-speed
00:56:21.120
data. And the phone company thought they had to be in the high-speed data business, because they kind
00:56:25.720
of did. But they didn't have a good option. They just had this bad technology. So they put me in
00:56:31.400
charge of deciding whether they should do ISDN and spend billions of dollars in making that like a
00:56:38.500
critical part of the business. Now, keep in mind that they had already decided they were going to do
00:56:43.820
it, because that's usually how it works. So management had decided they have to be in the business of
00:56:49.120
high-speed data. They only had one option. It was going to be ISDN. But they needed somebody,
00:56:55.220
my project, to say they were making the right decision. Well, at this point, I knew my career
00:57:03.560
was pretty much over. And I was not too happy with my employer. How do you think the analysis went?
00:57:12.440
Well, I recall giving the presentation, and it's probably the funniest thing I've ever done that
00:57:17.300
nobody laughed at. Are you ready? The funniest thing I've ever done that nobody laughed at.
00:57:25.080
I stood in front of the senior management of, you know, as an SVP and VP's senior management to make
00:57:32.300
these billion-dollar decisions. Billion-dollar decisions. And I gave them my PowerPoint presentation,
00:57:38.440
and I said, this ISDN would be a great thing. This could be great. But I have to tell you my
00:57:46.960
assumptions. You have to understand the assumptions, because otherwise the analysis, you know, depends
00:57:52.400
on that, so you have to understand them. And one of my assumptions was that the employees of the phone
00:57:58.100
company worked flawlessly, as did the developers of ISDN. And if they didn't make any mistakes in their
00:58:06.240
implementation or their decisions, and if ISDN, which was crap at the moment and had been crap for
00:58:12.320
a long time, were to become not crap because the people made all the right decisions from that point
00:58:17.960
on, ISDN would be an excellent thing to do, under the condition that my co-workers were capable and
00:58:25.660
competent. And Mr. Senior Vice President, you know your people better than I do. So if you trust them to be
00:58:32.320
capable and competent, this is a great thing to do.
00:58:38.460
It's probably the most fucked up thing I've ever done in my life.
00:58:44.880
But in my defense, they did have it coming. They had it coming. Now remember, they had already made
00:58:51.380
the decision, so it didn't really matter what I analyzed. But I gave them the cover they needed.
00:58:56.160
Because I didn't care. I just didn't care. So if I could give some corporate advice.
00:59:07.340
Don't put the guy you're trying to fire, and he knows it, on the biggest decision in your company,
00:59:13.880
because it was. It was the biggest decision in the company. And I gave them exactly what they asked for.
00:59:20.880
I gave them my assumption, and I said it clearly. If you believe your people can execute flawlessly,
00:59:27.960
unlike anything they've ever done before, this is a good idea. You should jump at it. And they did.
00:59:35.960
So all of you are using ISDN now, right? How's your ISDN connection? Working pretty well? I guess
00:59:42.340
that's everywhere. So there's your... Now, so that was real. That's a real-life story. Now,
00:59:50.440
every time you see a data analysis, what do you think? Right? You're going to ask yourself who did
00:59:56.820
it, and what assumptions did they make, and what are they trying to accomplish? Because people got
01:00:01.340
priorities, and it might not be yours. All right. Here's a data analysis test for you. I gave this
01:00:11.340
test to people online today. We'll see how you do. It's a data analysis test. I'm going to give you
01:00:17.220
an assumption. So don't argue with the assumptions, because these are not real assumptions. It's just,
01:00:25.940
if this were true. All right? So don't argue that it's not true. That's not the question. If it were
01:00:32.040
true, can you do the analysis? All right? So we're only testing your analytical ability. We're not
01:00:37.980
testing the facts. I stipulate the facts are true. They might not be. But let's act like they are,
01:00:43.920
and then do the analysis. Here it is. If you knew, now, new is critical, right? If you knew,
01:00:50.600
there's no doubt about it, because you're magic and you know. If you knew that 98% of the people
01:00:55.600
with COVID-19 who took ivermectin had a good outcome, would you conclude it worked? 98% of the
01:01:04.180
people taking it have a good outcome have a good outcome? Go. Do you conclude it works?
01:01:13.100
Well, your answers are all over the place. I see yeses and nos. How could that be?
01:01:18.600
How could this simple question have different answers? This is the most basic question.
01:01:24.860
98% of the people who took this drug had a good outcome. Are you telling me that doesn't convince
01:01:29.180
you? What would it take? If 98% is not enough, what would it take? How many of you said yes,
01:01:40.280
that's pretty good evidence that works, and are feeling a little uncertain right now?
01:01:45.500
How many of you are saying yes, but feeling maybe not as confident as you used to be in that opinion?
01:01:53.200
And I'm going to read it again, because you have to listen to all the words, right?
01:01:56.420
So remember, the part that's stipulated is true. You can't question this, because we're only looking
01:02:02.240
at the analysis, not the data. If you knew that 98% of the people with COVID who took ivermectin
01:02:09.440
had a good outcome, would you conclude it worked? Now you thought about it for a minute, and you've
01:02:17.120
seen other people's answers, right? Now show me just the yeses. You had a moment to think about it,
01:02:24.840
and you've seen other people's responses. Now just the yeses. Plenty of yeses. Lots of yeses.
01:02:33.140
Okay. Those of you who are saying yes are going to get a little dose of humility today,
01:02:38.940
and I don't mean this to be condescending. All right? So don't take this personally.
01:02:43.580
How many of you could design a nuclear-powered rocket without any help? Well, I couldn't. I
01:02:53.520
couldn't, because I don't have any training in that. How many of you could shoot a three-point
01:02:59.580
shot from the center of the court and make them as much as Stephen Curry? I can't. I can't. I don't
01:03:06.760
have any practice of that. Nothing. So I don't feel bad about it, right? I don't feel bad that I'm
01:03:12.580
not a physicist. I've never tried. Never been trained. So very few of you have been trained in
01:03:21.040
data analysis, I figure, right? Realistically. So if you've never been trained in data analysis,
01:03:26.620
and you have completely the wrong answer, don't feel bad about it. Okay? Why am I telling you that?
01:03:33.260
Because I want to, I'm going to try to turn off the trigger for cognitive dissonance.
01:03:38.040
The trigger would be feeling you're wrong. That would, in theory, that would trigger you into
01:03:43.580
hearing and thinking things that are incorrect. So I'm going to turn it off. If you're not
01:03:50.420
experienced expert in data analysis, there isn't any chance you'd be good at it. So if you got this
01:03:56.340
question wrong, don't feel bad about yourself. There's nothing wrong with you. You're a perfectly fine
01:04:02.760
human. You're going to get a little better in the moment, because I'm going to explain to you what
01:04:07.540
you got wrong. But very few people know how to analyze data. They think they do, and it's misleading.
01:04:14.000
You know, the reporters will give you data, and you think they know what they're talking about. They
01:04:17.840
don't. They don't. All right, here's the answer for those of you who are maybe experienced in data
01:04:25.220
analysis. If ivermectin gave a good outcome to 98% of the people, it would indicate it's probably bad
01:04:32.460
for you. All right? Again, remember, if this is different than what you thought, there's nothing
01:04:40.400
wrong with you. You're still good. You're just not experienced at data analysis. The setup I gave you
01:04:47.700
should indicate, under the following assumption, if it was given to a broad spectrum of the public that
01:04:54.380
represented the public, 98% is worse than nothing. If you gave people nothing, more than 98% of them
01:05:02.040
would have a good outcome if you didn't do anything. So if ivermectin gave them a 98% good outcome,
01:05:09.740
and doing nothing gave you slightly better than 98%, what does that tell you about ivermectin?
01:05:15.740
That would tell you it's bad for you, right? Now, remember, I'm making up the numbers. This is not
01:05:21.120
anything real, right? Nothing real. This is just an example. Now, the second thing you should have
01:05:29.200
asked is, who did you study? Because if the only people studied had been 80-year-old people who had
01:05:36.320
COVID and took no other drug, it would be a miracle drug, right? If the 80-year-olds had taken no other
01:05:44.540
drug, and only ivermectin had a 98% good outcome, that would be a miracle, a miracle drug. But suppose
01:05:51.940
the only people studied were children under 18, and 98% had a good outcome. Don't give them,
01:06:00.980
don't give them any ivermectin, if that's all you know, because they were going to do better than that
01:06:05.960
without the ivermectin. So you took a 99 point whatever percentage good outcome, and you took
01:06:12.680
it all the way down to 98 with your ivermectin. So if you don't know who you gave it to, you don't
01:06:17.540
know anything, right? Somebody says you killed several children, yeah. So let me say as clearly as
01:06:28.280
possible, I don't know if ivermectin works, okay? I don't discount it, but I don't think the data is
01:06:41.480
supporting it. Now, the only thing that I want you to learn has nothing to do with ivermectin,
01:06:46.480
all right? So this conversation is not about ivermectin, please, all right? I'm not talking
01:06:50.940
about ivermectin. It was just an example to see if people who don't have data analysis training
01:06:58.160
would automatically get exactly the wrong answer, and that's what happened. So all I wanted to
01:07:07.160
transmit is some humility that I would say, you know, even as an experienced, so I would label
01:07:14.260
myself a commercial-grade analyst, meaning I did it for money. Somebody who was willing to pay me
01:07:21.420
for my ability to analyze things, right? And even I get stuff wrong all the time.
01:07:26.900
All the time I get stuff wrong. So I've got a great deal of humility about my own ability,
01:07:34.040
and I'm pretty trained, right? I'm pretty well trained. If you're not trained, and you don't have
01:07:40.260
a really big dose of humility about how well you can analyze this stuff, you should get it, all right?
01:07:47.520
I'm seeing Christopher is sending me an article from Jim Hoft. It says, election expert Seth
01:07:57.600
Keschel releases national fraud numbers, finds 8.1 million excess votes in U.S. elections, affirms Trump
01:08:06.280
won, etc. What credibility do you put on that story, people? It's from the Gateway Pundit, Jim
01:08:12.520
Hoft, and he says that some expert has found 8.1 million excess votes, and it shows that Trump
01:08:19.320
really won. Credibility, everybody? Credibility? Good job. Good job. Yeah, zero or low, right?
01:08:36.160
Zero or low. Now, it doesn't mean it's untrue, right? Remember, when I say credibility, and I think
01:08:43.500
you're all trained on this by now, credibility doesn't have anything to do with true or false.
01:08:49.540
It's just whether the source and the way it comes to you is something you should automatically believe
01:08:54.180
or automatically be skeptical. Could be true. We're not ruling it out at all. But at the moment,
01:09:00.300
on first glance, it's about a zero credibility. If you see it in other places, and you see more
01:09:06.940
detail, maybe, maybe it'll go up. So again, doesn't mean it's not true, but I wouldn't get too excited
01:09:14.960
about it. Here's some good news from Twitter user JML. He talked about ivermectin, and he said,
01:09:25.060
and I quote from his tweet, I took it and got better in 46 hours. It works incredible.
01:09:32.200
Now, that is good news, because you probably are aware that there are some randomized controlled
01:09:37.800
trials going on for ivermectin, and we can cancel those now, because they're expensive,
01:09:44.240
they're going to take a long time. But now that we know that this one person is pretty sure that
01:09:50.540
it works incredible, and it wasn't just another one of the millions and millions and millions of cases
01:09:56.400
of people who did have one day that they felt better a little bit more than the other days.
01:10:03.320
So it's not that, but this one person, he's now tested it on himself, and that gives us
01:10:08.420
full scientific confidence. So thank you, JML, for making it unnecessary to do randomized controlled
01:10:16.260
drug trials. We can just give it to this guy. And I don't know how many other drugs he's willing to
01:10:21.740
test for us, but imagine how much money we can save. A randomized controlled drug style is like
01:10:27.080
crazy expensive. We're talking like tens of millions of dollars, maybe hundreds of millions.
01:10:32.060
But we can save all of that by just giving these drugs to JML. 46 hours later, you're going to know if
01:10:39.900
they work. He'll just tell you, and then you just take them to market. We could save
01:10:44.660
a lot of money. That's the best news I've heard all day. I hope he doesn't charge too much for his
01:10:52.480
services. So that would be great. All right. What else has happened? Was it wrong of Joe Rogan to take
01:11:01.120
ivermectin? I will give you the correct analytical decision. It's a risk management decision because you
01:11:10.540
don't know. If his doctor gave it to him, that means that somebody well informed that he trusts
01:11:18.300
thought the risk management balance was worth it because I guess the downside risk is kind of pretty close
01:11:25.660
to zero. Did it work? Nobody knows. Nobody knows. But was it a good risk management decision? It looks like it.
01:11:33.740
It looks like it. That doesn't mean you should do it. But if your doctor backs you up, that would help.
01:11:41.800
If your doctor says no, well, you know, take that under consideration. Doesn't mean you have to follow
01:11:47.080
the doctor's advice. But I would certainly give it some weight. I certainly would.
01:11:52.220
Scott just called Dr. Corey well informed. Yes. Yes. The rogue doctors who are claiming the opposite
01:12:05.440
of the consensus, they are well informed. That doesn't mean they're right. They just know a lot
01:12:12.320
of stuff you don't know. Definitely doesn't mean they're right. Have any weed users died of COVID?
01:12:23.720
I'd really like to know that. Because, you know, weed has been at least indicated in some
01:12:29.380
non-confirmed trials. Weed has indicated as a protective effect. Now, I can't speak for the rest of
01:12:38.280
you. But if COVID-19 can burrow through the solid layer of marijuana tar that I put on my lungs every
01:12:46.180
day, well, it deserves to kill me. I would say that's a fair fight. I'd say if you can get through
01:12:52.620
that barrier and you can take me out, good job on you, COVID. You have my respect. But you're going to
01:13:00.960
have to dig pretty hard to find lung. Now, I don't know if many of you know it, but
01:13:08.140
the only studies I've seen about lung cancer and health outcomes for continuous smokers such as
01:13:18.340
myself, the only health study I've seen is that they have the same life expectancy as everybody
01:13:24.660
else. Will the mask mandate stop before August 2022? Oh, yeah, I think so. What's happening in
01:13:33.260
Florida, by the way? Think about how confident you were about whatever you thought some other
01:13:41.280
country or state did. Did you ever have a period during the pandemic where you said, oh, Sweden,
01:13:47.820
the Sweden example, now we know what's going on. That tells me something. I'll look at Sweden,
01:13:52.620
then I'll look at what other people will do, and now I'll know what's going on.
01:13:55.240
Pretty clearly isolating the variables that matter and the ones that don't. Now that I know what's
01:14:00.540
happening in Sweden, we're good. Any of you had that feeling? Well, I didn't. How about when you
01:14:08.180
heard that India allegedly had one region that had like amazing success with ivermectin? So did you
01:14:16.360
believe that? You shouldn't. You shouldn't because there's no reliable information that India had
01:14:22.380
success with ivermectin. You think it is. You probably saw it in a tweet or you saw an article
01:14:26.880
completely debunked. How about the difference between Florida and California? Florida's infection
01:14:35.000
rate just dropped to sort of one of the best, meaning the lowest level since the beginning of
01:14:41.980
the pandemic. Why? Why'd that happen? Does anybody have any explanation for why Florida suddenly has
01:14:51.800
fewer infections? Somebody says seasonality, but that hasn't held. Seasonality has not acted the way
01:14:58.920
seasonality normally acts. The seasonality has been violated by this virus, right? Sunshine,
01:15:05.920
California, we've got sunshine. So every hypothesis you have doesn't seem to stand up, does it?
01:15:15.740
I don't know what it is. Apparently there's something pretty basic about this virus that we
01:15:20.740
still don't know. The experts still don't know. Because we can't predict any state, can we?
01:15:26.460
Do you think any expert could predict, okay, this state is now going to make a change in their
01:15:32.300
procedures? And then can the experts predict how it'll go? Apparently not. Apparently not. Now,
01:15:40.120
the one exception to that would be Christmas, I think. Christmas seems predictable, doesn't it?
01:15:46.120
But beyond that, I don't think you can compare a state to a state. We just don't know what's going on.
01:15:52.700
And I'll tell you what makes me super curious, is why is it that we get a bad
01:15:59.040
variant just about when we think we got the other one under control? Is it, is that a coincidence?
01:16:09.340
Because if one virus was created in a lab, wouldn't they make a variant too? Don't you think there was
01:16:19.020
more than one created in a lab? Are we sure the Delta variant is natural? And are we sure the one
01:16:25.480
after that, whatever they're talking about, the one that looks a little like it might be a problem?
01:16:30.160
Are we sure that's natural? How would you know? Oh, somebody's saying maybe the vaccines caused it.
01:16:35.620
I don't think there's any evidence for that, that the vaccines caused the variant. The evidence is
01:16:41.280
the greater amount of virus there is causes the variant, not the leaky vaccines. So everybody's
01:16:47.700
saying leaky vaccines. Do a little, do a fact check on that. I think the leaky vaccine hypothesis
01:16:54.500
that that actually causes variants, I think that's completely debunked by the fact that the thing
01:17:01.220
that causes mutations is more virus. So the more virus, the worse it is, just period. That's just
01:17:07.740
the only rule you need to know. More virus, more variants, that's all you need to know. Now the
01:17:12.260
exception would be if people got partially, let's say, immunized by the prior infection, at which point
01:17:21.100
the variant wouldn't be as powerful. If your infection, if your natural immunity also worked
01:17:27.180
against the variant, it could stop it that way. Natural mutations, more patients survive to pass
01:17:35.740
lung mutations. Okay. Here's another, what time is it? I've got time this morning. You want to hear
01:17:50.940
another conspiracy theory? Anybody? Anybody? Another conspiracy? Yeah, of course you do. Of course you
01:17:57.040
do. It goes like this. The supply chain problem, is it natural? Or was it maybe nudged by an adversary?
01:18:12.900
Question number one, could you tell the difference if it was natural, the supply chain problem,
01:18:19.500
or if there had been some hidden hand behind it? Would you know the difference? First answer,
01:18:26.620
I think no. You could. I mean, it's possible you'd see some hidden hand that wasn't so hidden.
01:18:34.160
But could an adversary do an attack like this that we would not be able to identify?
01:18:41.300
Yes. Yes. Let me give you an example of how this could be done by an adversary over a long period of
01:18:51.280
time, and you wouldn't know it. You ready? One of the biggest problems in, as I understand it,
01:18:58.460
and my example might be wrong, but it'll give you an idea, right? Even if the example details are wrong.
01:19:03.060
So in Long Beach, and I think in LA, they had a restriction about storing the empty containers.
01:19:10.820
At some point, that means that somebody brought forth legislation or some kind of rule change
01:19:17.860
to promote the rules about restricting what you can do with an empty.
01:19:23.220
Now, you probably think, oh, that was the unions, and probably was. Or that was just ordinary safety
01:19:30.240
procedures, and of course we did that. You know, there were some accidents, so it's just because
01:19:34.900
of the accidents. Could be. Here's the other possibility. How much would it cost
01:19:40.800
to bribe a local official to make some legislation that isn't really as good as you think it is for
01:19:50.360
the public? $30,000. All right. Now, you can fact check that, but my claim, just for conversation,
01:19:58.660
for conversation purposes alone, it would cost about $30,000 to bribe one politician. It doesn't
01:20:07.040
have to be even a direct bribe. It could be, you know, we'll fund you a campaign or something like
01:20:11.800
that. One politician, $30,000, to put some legislation in place about empty containers.
01:20:20.740
Now, do you have to bribe all the people who vote on the bill? Do you have to bribe them all?
01:20:28.760
Nope. Because they don't care about empty containers, do they? It's not an important topic. So if the
01:20:35.700
person who alleges he or she looked into the topic and said, look, I've looked into this deeply,
01:20:41.780
I wrote it all for you, made it easy. This problem of putting more than two containers on top is a big
01:20:48.880
problem. Vote for my bill. Do you think one person could get something passed if they were the only
01:20:56.660
person who understood the topic? Yes. Yes, they could. Now, suppose an adversary was doing this
01:21:06.000
kind of thing, finding weak spots in our major systems, and then influencing one politician
01:21:13.820
to become an expert in it, and put in place a restrictive policy that looks good when people see it at
01:21:24.220
first. Oh, you're going to improve the safety? Yeah, I'm on board. I'm good with safety. Oh,
01:21:31.900
you're going to protect the unions? Oh, well, we're a democratic state, and we like unions. We'd better
01:21:37.500
get them on our side. So, sure. Yeah, it could be done. Now, you say to yourself, but that's like
01:21:45.080
kind of a magic bullet, isn't it, Scott? You really think that the Chinese government is so smart
01:21:51.120
that they're looking for this weakness, and they find this one person that's exactly the right
01:21:56.440
person, and they do exactly the right thing? No. No. That's not the play. The play would be you do
01:22:05.480
that same thing, you know, the bribe the politician, but you do it all over the place. So, it's not just
01:22:11.580
about ports, and it's not just about the supply chain. It's about everything. It's about how we
01:22:17.600
procure for the military. It's about our policy for whether we should have domestic supplies of
01:22:24.780
this or that valuable stuff. It's about how quickly we could, let's say, put together a military
01:22:32.120
response, maybe crippling little places of it with restrictions and rules. So, they would put in place
01:22:38.600
a whole bunch of things that look like little steps, and then wait for the pandemic. Now, when I say
01:22:46.360
wait for the pandemic, I mean, wait for any big thing that is the extra pressure on the system.
01:22:53.720
So, they could just weaken a bunch of systems over 20 years at very low cost, and then wait for some
01:23:01.780
pressure on the systems that they didn't plan for, but there's always some pressure, and then that's
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enough to knock it over. So, it could be that an adversary didn't even know they were going to
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have success with a supply chain. It just, they had weakened a bunch of stuff, and this is the one that
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got some extra pressure and pushed it over. Now, when you hear it described this way, does it sound
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impractical? Anybody? Does anybody think that any of that sounds impractical?
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No. Unfortunately, no. And I gave you only one very small example of something that could be very
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easily and practically done. Don't you think there are more that don't involve bribing a politician?
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Don't you think? Now, let me give you another one. What did I hear? There was some propaganda
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that we all accepted. I just heard a story about some propaganda that the citizens of the United States
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all accepted as true, and just was made up by some propaganda source. Do you think that an adversary
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could convince us of something that isn't true, just in general? Could an adversary use, let's say,
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maybe AI through just algorithms, not anything more AI than algorithms? Or, you know, let's say,
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changing your social media impressions so you see more of something and less of something else.
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Do you think they could change your mind about anything? Of course they could. Now, if they're trying to
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change your mind about who to vote for, we can be sort of alert to that, and you're like, hey, you're a bot.
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The way you're talking, I can tell you're a bot. Or, oh, that sounds like a Chinese spy.
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But, would you be just as smart if the topic was storing nuclear waste, whether to regulate
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electric cars, or something like that? Would you be just as smart and say, yeah, my opinion on batteries
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versus storing nuclear waste is based on my own research, and my own knowledge of objective sources,
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and at least they're American, even if they're trying to bias me. So I have an American objective opinion.
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Maybe. But you don't think your foreign adversary could get 20% of you so afraid of any one of these things
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that that 20% would form an action group to stop it from happening,
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or would promote legislation that would at least have a chance of passing.
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parts of the system, and just wait for something big to be the
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Right? Now, when you hear me describe it this way,
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Because all the things we talk about look natural,
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that was caused by the thing that happened before it.
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You've got people who don't want to get vaccinations