Real Coffee with Scott Adams - November 27, 2021


Episode 1575 Scott Adams: Today I Will Trigger Some of You Into Cognitive Dissonance. Sorry


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 3 minutes

Words per Minute

135.39117

Word Count

8,594

Sentence Count

624

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

I don t care if you get vaccinated, but I would like to try a new experiment to see how many people would be triggered into cognitive dissonance by a fake shock at the thought of a new strain of the flu.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good morning, everybody, and a welcome to the best thing that's ever happened.
00:00:09.580 Coffee was Scott Adams, and it never disappoints.
00:00:12.760 Never, never, especially today.
00:00:19.120 So, before we get into the fun stuff,
00:00:23.020 I'd like to take a moment to remind you I don't care if you get vaccinated.
00:00:34.000 We'll get into some things later.
00:00:36.500 Now, again, I'm not going to talk about whether you should get vaccinated.
00:00:40.660 We're going to do a little experiment to see how many people I can trigger into cognitive dissonance in a live setting.
00:00:48.480 I'll tell you what to look for, and then you're going to watch it happen in real time.
00:00:53.300 Okay?
00:00:54.040 So, it's going to be fun, but again, I don't care if you get vaccinated.
00:00:58.160 I'm not trying to influence you one way or another, but watch what happens when we just talk about it.
00:01:03.380 It's going to be interesting, I think.
00:01:06.260 But first, how would you like to take it up another notch?
00:01:10.740 Yeah, you're that kind of person.
00:01:12.440 Would you settle for less when you could have more?
00:01:16.140 No, of course not.
00:01:18.000 And so, you want more, you want the simultaneous sip,
00:01:20.220 and all you need is a cuppa, a mug, a glass, a tank, a gel, a stein, a canteen, a jug, a flask, a vessel of any kind.
00:01:25.900 Fill it with your favorite liquid.
00:01:26.880 I like coffee.
00:01:28.540 And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure,
00:01:33.100 the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better.
00:01:36.780 Accept your booster shot.
00:01:38.560 It's called the simultaneous sip, but it happens now.
00:01:41.080 Go.
00:01:41.220 Yeah, it's going to be good.
00:01:47.800 It's going to be good.
00:01:50.820 Now, I would like all of you to help me express fake shock.
00:02:00.180 Do any current events change what I've written in LoserThink?
00:02:03.880 I don't know.
00:02:07.880 So, I'd like you all to participate in this at home.
00:02:14.040 All right?
00:02:14.780 I'm going to read you a news headline, and I want you to pretend to be shocked.
00:02:21.020 Okay?
00:02:22.540 Here's the headline.
00:02:23.520 Just when we thought the pandemic could be winding down, it seems there's a new variant.
00:02:31.400 Oh, what?
00:02:35.760 What?
00:02:38.220 What?
00:02:39.340 Are you kidding me?
00:02:41.120 I did not see that coming.
00:02:45.240 Did anybody see that coming?
00:02:47.580 I'm shocked.
00:02:49.020 I'm shocked.
00:02:51.040 Literally, the most fucking predictable thing that could ever happen in the world.
00:02:56.440 Now, remember I told you that follow the money works even when it shouldn't?
00:03:06.840 Even when money seems to be not part of the decision, it always predicts.
00:03:13.680 Always.
00:03:15.200 Because what would be the most profitable thing for the pharma companies?
00:03:19.960 Another variant, of course.
00:03:22.060 Of course.
00:03:23.060 And wouldn't you imagine that it's likely that the vaccines will work against the variant?
00:03:30.080 To give you a little extra push?
00:03:32.260 Or maybe somebody will come up with a new pill that only works against the variant.
00:03:38.440 Well, now you say to yourself, but Scott, the pharma companies might like to sell more vaccines.
00:03:46.040 Of course.
00:03:46.640 But that has nothing to do with the fact that other scientists have discovered this variant.
00:03:54.000 You know, the variant is either there or it isn't, right?
00:03:57.000 The variant is just a fact.
00:03:59.240 It's either true or it's false.
00:04:01.300 It has nothing to do with follow the money.
00:04:05.140 Except that follow the money always predicts right.
00:04:08.020 Why?
00:04:11.900 So you knew this was common.
00:04:14.100 And I'll say again, the odds that some novel virus, such as coronavirus, which we highly
00:04:22.800 suspect may have been engineered, if it were engineered in a way that would trigger a lot
00:04:29.380 of deadly variants, wouldn't we have a lot more of them, the deadliest ones, really just one
00:04:39.220 or two?
00:04:40.340 I feel as though you would have dozens or hundreds or maybe zero.
00:04:47.160 But exactly the right number to support the vaccine program, right?
00:04:53.720 That of all the possibilities, from one to infinity, of how many deadly variants there could be,
00:05:01.880 there's just three, you know, the original delta and then this one, and they happen to
00:05:07.520 happen at just the right time.
00:05:10.080 Okay?
00:05:10.620 I'm a little suspicious of all of this, as all of us should be.
00:05:17.180 Let me give you a persuasion lesson in one tweet.
00:05:20.880 I tweeted something obnoxious, and the purpose of the tweet was attention, of course.
00:05:32.660 So the first part of persuasion is attention.
00:05:36.800 So here's the tweet, and I'll tell you what the technique is in it.
00:05:42.200 I said that political influence is the product of persuasion skill times reach.
00:05:47.680 For example, if I had 10 million Twitter followers, I would be in charge of America.
00:05:57.060 Now, is that true?
00:06:02.540 Is that true?
00:06:05.180 Doesn't matter?
00:06:07.080 Well, it got your attention, right?
00:06:09.160 But here's the first part.
00:06:11.040 So I started with saying that political influence is the product of persuasion skill times reach.
00:06:16.040 How many of you would agree with that claim?
00:06:19.440 That if you were persuasively skilled, that wouldn't help you at all if nobody knew about it.
00:06:26.060 But if you had a giant platform, you know, 10 million users, you'd have more basic, right?
00:06:32.120 So the first part of the influence is that I say something you'll agree with.
00:06:36.940 That's good persuasion.
00:06:38.800 The first thing I say is something you'll agree with.
00:06:41.120 That's what salespeople do.
00:06:42.800 Works with tweets, works with everything.
00:06:44.320 So first, you start by pacing and or.
00:06:48.140 This isn't exactly pacing.
00:06:50.160 It's more like saying something that sounds smart that you agree with.
00:06:54.720 What happens when I say something that sounds smart?
00:06:58.060 Forget about whether it is.
00:06:59.960 Say something.
00:07:00.640 If I say something that sounds smart and you agree with it, what have I done?
00:07:06.240 I just made you feel smart.
00:07:07.840 And you and I just formed a bond.
00:07:13.380 Yeah, we're the smart ones.
00:07:14.560 I know what you said.
00:07:16.000 And I get it.
00:07:17.240 Right?
00:07:17.760 So it's a little bonding thing and primes people for what comes.
00:07:22.240 And then I gave the example.
00:07:24.300 I said if I had 10 million Twitter followers, I'd be in charge of America.
00:07:27.740 Someone pointed out accurately that I had once said something along the lines, if I had 1 million Twitter followers, that I would be the most influential person or something like that.
00:07:42.000 Now, suppose I could get you to debate whether it would take me 1 million users or 10 million to run the country.
00:07:49.940 It's thinking past the sale, right?
00:07:55.300 If you're debating how many users I need before I'm in charge of the country, I've made you accept that I would be in charge of the country as some number, which is a little bit absurd and yet true at the same time.
00:08:11.440 I mean, it feels absurd even to me, but it's a little bit true.
00:08:15.340 Somebody with my persuasion skills, Trump has them.
00:08:21.420 There are lots of other people who have the skills, but they don't necessarily have the huge platform.
00:08:27.320 And when Trump did, look what he did.
00:08:29.600 When he had the huge platform and the persuasion skills, President of the United States.
00:08:35.980 So, and then I also used the phrase, I would be in charge of America.
00:08:41.560 Did you catch that?
00:08:42.380 I didn't say I'd be president.
00:08:45.340 And I didn't say I wanted the influence.
00:08:49.440 Because those things would make you afraid, right?
00:08:52.160 Like, oh, this guy's trying to become president.
00:08:54.320 I'm definitely not trying to become president.
00:08:56.760 And so I said I'd be in charge of America like it would be a, like a duty.
00:09:02.980 Instead of saying I want it, which I'm not sure I do, it would feel like a responsibility.
00:09:08.660 It would just feel like a duty.
00:09:09.520 So I put that out there, and it was very unpopular as a tweet, because I think it made people uncomfortable.
00:09:16.540 But that was part of the point.
00:09:19.020 But I would argue that about, that at 10 million Twitter followers, I would effectively run the country.
00:09:24.400 I believe that the real way to see who is in charge of everything is that there is a battle of competing Illuminatis for every topic.
00:09:46.020 Now, I've been behind the curtain enough in the last several years to know that that's actually the best way to see things.
00:09:54.040 You know, the cartoonish views we have are, you know, somebody's going to say, Jews control the world.
00:10:00.140 You know, somebody's going to say that.
00:10:01.500 Somebody's going to say, it's the elite, or there's an Illuminati, or it's the deep state.
00:10:08.640 There's always some shadowy group that you're afraid is running everything.
00:10:13.180 The actual best way to see everything is that for every topic, there's at least one Illuminati.
00:10:20.620 In other words, one group of people behind the curtain who have something they're trying to influence, but probably competing with others.
00:10:27.380 So it's like small groups of shadowy figures, and you don't know their names.
00:10:33.320 But by the time you see it, it's coming through a politician's mouth.
00:10:37.980 And by then, all the influence has been laundered out.
00:10:40.700 You just think it's the politician.
00:10:42.640 It's usually not.
00:10:44.200 There's usually a battle behind the curtain, and then the politician just tells you who won for their vote, anyway.
00:10:52.880 So that's the best way to see the world.
00:10:54.400 And certainly somebody who had my persuasion skills, and again, it's not because I'm genetically gifted or something.
00:11:03.600 I'm just saying that I've learned how to persuade, that the techniques are learnable.
00:11:10.020 And if you have learned them, if you had 10 million followers, you could pick a topic and probably have a big influence on it.
00:11:16.240 How many topics do you think I've influenced already?
00:11:22.940 Like in the actual national level, tell me what things you think...
00:11:28.560 Like, give me some examples.
00:11:30.900 What things do you think I've directly influenced with, you know, half a million to, I guess, 600 and almost 70,000 followers?
00:11:39.880 I'm seeing Trump, I'm seeing China, nuclear policy, telemedicine, the simulation, fentanyl awareness, coffee, telemedicine, yeah.
00:11:55.040 The fine people hoax, yeah.
00:11:56.920 So there are enough examples that it makes the point, doesn't it?
00:12:01.340 You know, if I tried to influence everything, it would dilute my influence, and I wouldn't be able to get anything done.
00:12:07.800 But if you've got X number of followers and you know how to influence, you can pick a topic, and you can really make a dent.
00:12:15.460 Look at Greta.
00:12:17.680 Right, Greta Thunberg makes a dent because she's picked one topic.
00:12:22.300 If you do that, you can make a big difference.
00:12:24.320 All right, so apparently this new virus, the Omicron, as it's being called, the big story is that they skipped a few Greek letters to get to Omicron.
00:12:37.220 And one of the ones they skipped was the letter XI.
00:12:41.200 I don't know how you pronounce the Greek letter XI.
00:12:44.080 But if it were a Chinese name, which it also is, it would be Xi.
00:12:49.520 I'm seeing pronunciation would be Kai.
00:12:51.440 So if you pronounce it the way the Greek letter would be, it would be Kai.
00:12:55.980 Is that right?
00:12:59.160 Okay.
00:13:02.240 All right.
00:13:03.080 And somebody says Jack Posobiec pointed out that Omicron is an enneagram for moronic.
00:13:11.460 Is it?
00:13:13.500 Oh, my God, it is.
00:13:14.600 But if you're saying to yourself, oh, the World Health Organization skipped the letter Kai because it looks like XI, and then people would say, oh, that's Xi, President Xi of China.
00:13:31.940 And I'm not sure that's the reason, though, because I think China, there's already a Xi virus.
00:13:39.160 It's called fentanyl, kills about 60,000 Americans per year.
00:13:44.080 And that comes from China through the cartels into the United States.
00:13:49.100 So there's already a Xi virus.
00:13:51.000 It's just called fentanyl from fentanyl, China.
00:13:56.880 All right.
00:13:57.580 I provocatively tweeted this, which got people all mad, which I suppose I expected.
00:14:06.220 I said, is it my imagination or are the unvaccinated secretly hoping the vaccinated die in large numbers to prove a point?
00:14:16.860 Now, people, of course, jumped in and said, oh, it's the other way around.
00:14:20.720 I think those vaccinated people want the unvaccinated to die.
00:14:27.720 Now, probably some of that.
00:14:30.760 Probably some of that.
00:14:32.320 And the reason I ask the question is that I felt this pull myself.
00:14:39.500 In other words, there's always a pull to be right.
00:14:44.180 And unfortunately, some people predict things will go well in the world.
00:14:47.700 Some people predict things will go poorly.
00:14:49.500 But we both want to be right.
00:14:53.000 Even if you don't want things to go poorly, you still kind of do because you want to be right.
00:14:59.880 Right?
00:15:00.320 If I asked you, do you want people to die so you can be right, most people will say, no, no, I don't want people to die just so I can be proven right.
00:15:10.880 But you kind of do.
00:15:13.080 Right?
00:15:13.280 Meaning that the influence to be right is so powerful that it does kind of push you slightly uncomfortably in the direction of being a little bit happy if people died and made you right by dying.
00:15:28.000 Which is a horrible thing.
00:15:30.280 And by the way, I totally feel it in myself.
00:15:33.360 So I would have been amazed if nobody else had the same feeling.
00:15:38.000 Now, again, I don't want people to die to prove me right.
00:15:41.360 But, you know, you feel the force of it.
00:15:44.380 And one of the comments that I got, and here's where I'm going to start pushing you into cognitive dissonance.
00:15:52.120 And by the way, let me tell you what the tells will be.
00:15:56.580 So you can see it in yourself and you can see it in the comments.
00:16:00.660 Here are some tells for cognitive dissonance.
00:16:02.820 Number one, attacking the messenger.
00:16:05.940 And it would look like, Scott, you've lost it with nothing else.
00:16:10.600 Or, well, you've really jumped the shark now with no other comment.
00:16:15.000 That's usually cognitive dissonance.
00:16:17.200 So if you attack the messenger, probably cognitive dissonance.
00:16:21.680 If you imagine I'm saying something different so that you can prove me wrong on some point I'm not talking about,
00:16:29.540 that's probably cognitive dissonance.
00:16:31.200 Right?
00:16:31.760 If you can't handle the points I'm making, you will imagine I'm making a different one and argue that one.
00:16:37.920 So watch for that, and I'll point it out when I see it.
00:16:41.360 And the other one is mind reading.
00:16:43.840 Now, there might be other triggers as they come by.
00:16:47.740 But the writing in all caps, I don't know what that means.
00:16:53.720 That's just crazy shit.
00:16:55.980 But the other one is mind reading.
00:16:57.440 For example, this morning, I heard somebody say on Twitter,
00:17:02.740 Scott, why does it seem like you're regretting your vaccination decision?
00:17:09.620 That would be like mind reading, right?
00:17:11.620 Because I don't.
00:17:12.760 I certainly question whether it was right, but regretting it's a whole different thing, right?
00:17:19.500 I mean, nobody can be 100% sure you made the right vaccination decision for yourself.
00:17:24.720 Can you?
00:17:25.160 All right, so I would say that anybody who says they're 100% certain probably has a mental competence problem.
00:17:33.080 Not mental illness, but a competence problem.
00:17:37.020 Because if you're 100% sure that you made the right vaccination decision, there's just something wrong with your brain.
00:17:44.000 Now, if you said 98% sure, okay.
00:17:48.000 At least you're allowing that you could be wrong, right?
00:17:51.420 So I'm vaccinated, but if you ask me, are you 100% sure that was the right decision?
00:17:57.080 How could I be?
00:17:58.720 How could I possibly be right?
00:18:00.040 I mean, I don't have data that I trust, do you?
00:18:04.020 Do you have some secret data you trust?
00:18:06.360 Because I haven't seen any I trust.
00:18:09.160 So full certainty is the other way to know somebody's got something going on that isn't good thinking, all right?
00:18:17.700 So here's where I'm going to trigger you into cognitive dissonance, some of you, and watch for it in the comments.
00:18:24.380 The number one comment I got from the unvaccinated is,
00:18:27.920 all we want is to be left alone.
00:18:32.420 That's all we want.
00:18:34.140 And it's not the same the other way.
00:18:37.160 Because the vaccination people want to do something to us.
00:18:40.980 They want to actively make us do something.
00:18:43.280 They won't leave us alone.
00:18:46.660 Would you agree?
00:18:48.500 Just leave us alone.
00:18:49.540 All right, here's where the cognitive dissonance is going to get triggered.
00:18:53.040 You're both not leaving each other alone.
00:19:02.300 Oh, here's our first cognitive dissonance.
00:19:04.580 Somebody paid $20 to do it.
00:19:07.320 So Chad says,
00:19:08.360 Why do you accept and reinforce the divisive frame of vaccinated versus unvaccinated?
00:19:13.540 I'm not doing that, right?
00:19:16.440 So here's cognitive dissonance.
00:19:17.840 Somebody's imagining that I'm increasing the vaccinated versus unvaccinated frame.
00:19:24.700 I'm doing exactly the opposite.
00:19:27.360 Because I tell you I don't care if you're vaccinated.
00:19:30.420 I do care about your opinion.
00:19:32.580 So this is about your opinion, not mine.
00:19:34.600 So if you think this is my clever way to, you know, divide people or to cause you to do something, none of that's happening.
00:19:43.480 That would all be mind-reading on your part.
00:19:49.380 So here's my point.
00:19:51.460 It is definitely true that the vaccinated, on average, are trying to get the unvaccinated people to do something, get vaccinated.
00:20:00.440 But it is also true that the unvaccinated are having a huge impact on the vaccinated.
00:20:10.400 Right?
00:20:11.700 Because the vaccinated would say, and again, this would be their opinion.
00:20:16.840 You know, I'm representing a general opinion.
00:20:19.620 This is not necessarily my own opinion.
00:20:22.340 The vaccinated would say, we could have opened up by now.
00:20:26.280 Everything would be normal by now.
00:20:31.600 And the vaccinated would say, you have completely fucked up my life by not getting vaccinated.
00:20:38.780 That's what they would say.
00:20:40.080 Again, I'm not saying that.
00:20:41.740 Right?
00:20:42.020 I want to be really clear.
00:20:43.720 This is not my argument.
00:20:45.680 I'm just saying that we live in a world where everybody's choice affects everybody else.
00:20:50.820 And in a big way in the pandemic.
00:20:53.420 Right?
00:20:53.540 So not getting vaccinated is a choice.
00:20:56.560 That's an active choice.
00:20:58.640 To imagine that you're the one who just wanted to be left alone is, I think, selfish beyond anything I could imagine.
00:21:10.020 Now, both sides are selfish.
00:21:12.480 But only one side seems to know it.
00:21:17.060 So maybe that's unfair.
00:21:19.740 Let's just say this.
00:21:20.860 Because the unvaccinated are having a gigantic impact on every part of the vaccinated people's lives, or so the vaccinated people would say.
00:21:30.900 Again, I'm representing a general opinion.
00:21:34.380 This is not necessarily coming out of my head.
00:21:36.340 So how many of you would accept that neither of you are leaving the others alone?
00:21:44.620 Not even close.
00:21:46.020 In fact, leaving the other side alone is so opposite of what's happening right now.
00:21:50.840 So now I think we would get into, watch, this would be another trigger or indicator for cognitive dissonance.
00:22:01.560 We'll probably get into word thinking now.
00:22:04.140 Now, word thinking is where you just try to win by defining things.
00:22:07.540 So somebody is going to define a way, the way the impact goes both directions.
00:22:13.940 Let's see.
00:22:18.900 Let's see.
00:22:20.560 Forgetting the people who have no choice.
00:22:23.140 Well, no, the people who have no choice are a separate thing.
00:22:28.240 All right?
00:22:28.520 So 83% of adults are vaxxed, not fully vaxxed, though.
00:22:34.940 It's closer to a high 50%.
00:22:37.520 Wow, the comments are so long, it's hard to see them.
00:22:49.780 So I've got a clarification question.
00:22:52.320 So this is to me.
00:22:53.980 So the unvaccinated are being selfish because the vaccinated insist that the unvaccinated must be vaccinated before letting things open.
00:23:03.980 Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
00:23:06.620 Yeah, I'm saying that in a civilized society, everybody expects everybody else to do their part.
00:23:15.640 Wouldn't you say?
00:23:16.740 Like, I expect you not to litter so that I can enjoy walking on the street.
00:23:21.060 I expect you not to commit a crime so that I can feel safe.
00:23:27.340 I'm putting expectations on you all the time, as you are on me.
00:23:32.740 So to imagine that this pandemic is the one case where one group can just be left alone.
00:23:39.460 No.
00:23:40.700 They could be left alone if there were six of them and they didn't affect anybody else.
00:23:44.340 But you're talking about, you know, tens of millions of people who have a gigantic effect on every part of the other people's lives.
00:23:51.760 Of course, nobody can be left alone.
00:23:56.200 So here's my bottom line.
00:24:02.180 The idea that you could leave either side alone is purely imaginary.
00:24:07.240 And you'd have to sort of word think it to turn it into being left alone.
00:24:12.840 We can't.
00:24:13.900 Everything that we do affects everybody else.
00:24:17.040 In big, big ways.
00:24:18.940 Right?
00:24:20.040 Now, take another situation.
00:24:22.900 And this is not an analogy.
00:24:24.300 It just sort of clarifies thinking.
00:24:26.860 Take cigarette smoking.
00:24:30.000 Wouldn't cigarette smokers say, why don't you just leave me alone?
00:24:33.080 Just, how about you just leave me alone?
00:24:37.080 To which I say, you know, I'm sensitive to that argument.
00:24:41.620 I do think we should leave him alone.
00:24:44.820 But you're sitting next to me in the restaurant.
00:24:48.540 If you're sitting next to me in the restaurant, is that the same as leaving you alone?
00:24:54.480 Because you're not leaving me alone.
00:24:56.100 So my point is, both sides are always influencing both sides.
00:25:03.840 And there's no way to untangle that.
00:25:06.660 So it's a ridiculous argument to say, I just want to be left alone.
00:25:12.420 Because that's what the other side wants to do.
00:25:16.660 You forgot non-vague reasons, just analogies.
00:25:19.760 Yeah.
00:25:20.640 Yeah, if your only reason that you have is an analogy, then you don't have a reason.
00:25:26.100 Because you wouldn't need the analogy if you had an argument.
00:25:29.800 An analogy is good if you've made your point, but maybe you want to, you know, inform a little extra or something like that.
00:25:37.560 Now, the other thing that I saw, and it's, well, so here's a question I asked on Twitter.
00:25:51.560 And this is, again, this is not intended to show you my opinion.
00:25:57.980 Okay?
00:25:58.220 I need everybody to feel that first, or you won't be able to hear the rest of it.
00:26:04.460 So this is not about my opinion.
00:26:06.540 It's about yours.
00:26:08.120 So I was asking your opinion because I'm interested.
00:26:11.100 I'm genuinely interested in your opinion on this.
00:26:14.840 So I came up with this totally artificial question to get people hopping mad.
00:26:23.300 And I said this.
00:26:24.280 It was a poll question on Twitter.
00:26:25.980 I said, if you are unvaccinated by choice, and let's say there's no health reason, you just didn't trust the vaccine.
00:26:34.500 So if you're unvaccinated by choice, and there's only one bed left in the ICU, and of course, that's never the case because they can expand and stuff.
00:26:44.300 But I'm just trying to get to sort of a clarifying of your opinion question, right?
00:26:49.720 That's all we're trying to do here.
00:26:51.060 It's not a realistic situation.
00:26:53.420 But if there were only one ICU bed left, and there was a vaccinated person and an unvaccinated person, they both had COVID.
00:27:01.980 Do you think that the unvaccinated person has the same moral right, moral, that's the key word, the same moral right to the one bed?
00:27:16.540 What do you say?
00:27:18.000 I'll let you answer this question.
00:27:19.760 Do you think the vaccinated and the unvaccinated have the same moral right to be treated?
00:27:28.420 Mostly yeses.
00:27:30.200 Mostly yeses.
00:27:30.840 I got, what, 80% yeses?
00:27:34.300 86% yeses.
00:27:37.200 And I agree with the majority.
00:27:39.960 So if what you're looking at is the moral standard, yeah, you can't treat people differently, right?
00:27:49.200 As soon as you go down that road, it's all lost, right?
00:27:53.740 The single most important thing we do as human beings, and certainly in America, the thing that makes America, in my opinion, its strongest thing, is that we don't ever do this.
00:28:07.040 We don't treat some people as morally less valuable, you know, even to the point of a fetus, you know, for tens of millions of people.
00:28:18.040 So we don't do this.
00:28:19.340 It doesn't matter if you've made a bad decision, it doesn't matter if you've made a bad decision, a good decision, it doesn't matter if you're a criminal, old or young, you are morally exactly equal.
00:28:28.560 However, but, it would also be a triage decision, wouldn't it, which is different than a moral decision.
00:28:40.400 How would the triage go?
00:28:44.000 So now it's a separate decision.
00:28:45.940 Take morality out of it.
00:28:47.740 You're trying to save the most life.
00:28:50.400 It's just the greatest amount of life.
00:28:53.200 Now what do you do?
00:28:55.000 What's the triage decision?
00:28:56.760 Let's assume same age, same everything.
00:29:00.580 It's twins.
00:29:02.100 It's literally twins.
00:29:04.000 One is vaccinated and one isn't.
00:29:06.900 Just to make it easy, it's identical twins.
00:29:09.160 Same weight, same everything.
00:29:12.560 How do you triage them?
00:29:15.140 Well, I'll tell you what a doctor just said.
00:29:18.320 So a doctor on Twitter responded and said that he would treat the vaccinated person first.
00:29:25.720 Why?
00:29:26.860 Can anybody tell me why?
00:29:28.540 Why would you triage everything else as equal?
00:29:31.560 Right?
00:29:31.800 So don't do a Kobayashi Maru on me.
00:29:35.720 Everything else is equal.
00:29:36.800 Why would you treat the vaccinated person first?
00:29:39.720 It has nothing to do with morality.
00:29:41.820 Nothing to do with that.
00:29:44.060 Safer for the doctor?
00:29:45.460 No, that's interesting, but not what he said.
00:29:49.420 Here's why.
00:29:51.500 Then this is his reason, not mine again.
00:29:53.880 Right?
00:29:54.100 None of this is my opinion.
00:29:55.180 I'm just walking you through it.
00:29:58.020 The doctor said that the vaccinated person has such a higher chance of quickly recovering
00:30:03.940 compared to the unvaccinated that the vaccinated person would open up a bed sooner.
00:30:12.680 What do you think?
00:30:13.680 The vaccinated person is more likely to have a quick rebound and therefore open up another ICU
00:30:20.520 so you can save two people.
00:30:22.940 So if you save the vaccinated, you save two.
00:30:25.940 If you go for the unvaccinated person first, there's a much greater chance you'll lose that
00:30:31.140 person and lose the person that didn't get the ICU.
00:30:37.160 Why is this?
00:30:43.180 Why would you assume?
00:30:45.660 You've got a lot of questions coming in.
00:30:47.180 Now, I see not true.
00:30:51.560 I'm not the one who could argue this point, by the way.
00:30:54.500 I'm telling you what one doctor said.
00:30:57.360 Maybe other doctors would have different opinions.
00:30:59.280 Now, how many of you think that the shots increase your rate of myocarditis?
00:31:11.240 In the comments, how many of you believe that the shots, the vaccinations, increase your
00:31:18.300 chance of myocarditis?
00:31:23.680 I'm just looking at you.
00:31:24.780 I'm saying yes, yes, yes.
00:31:26.020 Not sure.
00:31:26.780 Don't know.
00:31:27.280 It is claimed.
00:31:29.280 It is claimed.
00:31:30.780 Sure.
00:31:31.380 Probably.
00:31:32.040 Probably.
00:31:34.340 So I'm seeing not sure's and yes's.
00:31:38.480 All right.
00:31:38.800 Here's my second question.
00:31:41.280 Compared to what?
00:31:42.700 What did you compare it to?
00:31:44.980 More myocarditis.
00:31:48.040 Myocarditis, yeah.
00:31:49.720 Most of you said yes.
00:31:51.560 So if they have more of it, more compared to what?
00:31:54.840 Compared to people who didn't get the vaccine?
00:31:59.280 Is that the right comparison?
00:32:03.300 You know what I'm doing to you right now, right?
00:32:05.820 Are you making the right comparison?
00:32:07.380 Is it logical to compare the myocarditis of the people who got vaccinated to the people
00:32:16.260 who did not?
00:32:17.160 Is that logical?
00:32:19.420 Seems logical, right?
00:32:20.700 Except we're moving into endemic territory, which means you're going to get COVID.
00:32:34.540 You're going to get it.
00:32:35.620 So the real comparison should be not vaccinated compared to unvaccinated.
00:32:42.180 That is not logical.
00:32:44.220 In the specific context of knowing we're all going to get it or likely.
00:32:49.080 You should compare myocarditis for the vaccinated to myocarditis to the unvaccinated, both of
00:33:02.280 them having the infection, right?
00:33:08.640 So if you get infected, you get more myocarditis.
00:33:11.900 Did you know that?
00:33:13.280 Let me ask you this.
00:33:14.040 How many of you knew that the infection itself can give you myocarditis as well as other things?
00:33:20.600 How many of you knew that, right?
00:33:22.800 So if you know you're going to get the virus, are you with me?
00:33:29.900 Do you buy just the logic of it that comparing it to people who don't have a virus and didn't
00:33:36.520 get vaccinated is the wrong comparison?
00:33:38.140 You have to compare it to people with the virus.
00:33:43.780 Now, my understanding is, and again, all data is not to be trusted.
00:33:48.940 Would you agree?
00:33:50.520 Can we agree that all the data is not to be trusted?
00:33:54.500 But if the data we have that's, let's say, public and generally agreed by the experts,
00:34:00.760 if that data were correct, and that's a gigantic if, it would be safer to get vaccinated if
00:34:09.880 you believed you were going to get the virus anyway, right?
00:34:16.020 Does anybody disagree with that?
00:34:19.020 So I see one disagree, but I don't see a reason.
00:34:22.540 Can we not compare it to the time before COVID?
00:34:24.920 No, that would be an irrational comparison.
00:34:27.320 I mean, you could, but it would be irrational.
00:34:32.500 Let's say, with clear incidence of myocarditis coming from VACs getting into the bloodstream
00:34:38.020 rather than the muscles, this argument is missing context.
00:34:41.660 No, it isn't.
00:34:43.340 No, it isn't.
00:34:44.560 You either got myocarditis or you didn't.
00:34:47.280 It doesn't matter how it got in there.
00:34:50.440 What about excess deaths?
00:34:52.900 Probably just bad data.
00:34:54.260 I'm not sure we can tell anything about excess deaths.
00:34:57.320 Well, go on.
00:35:03.780 You are spending a lot of money for these comments, but I appreciate the money.
00:35:08.720 Thanks for that.
00:35:10.320 Intellectually dishonest.
00:35:11.540 Who is?
00:35:12.020 About what?
00:35:15.220 This guy is nuts.
00:35:16.520 There we go.
00:35:17.880 So I got the, there's your first cognitive dissonance trigger.
00:35:22.020 Somebody said, this guy is nuts.
00:35:24.840 That's cognitive dissonance.
00:35:25.900 So something I said, didn't agree with them, but they, they could recognize it as correct
00:35:30.720 anyway.
00:35:32.940 James Bond says, Scott is pushing the vaccine again.
00:35:35.560 So that's cognitive dissonance.
00:35:38.600 If, if you were here in the beginning, that's cognitive dissonance, because, um, I really
00:35:43.740 don't care if you get vaccinated.
00:35:46.160 I really don't.
00:35:47.360 And I'm willing to accept the, uh, the, the greater restrictions so that you can have that
00:35:52.960 right.
00:35:53.980 Are you okay with that?
00:35:54.780 No, I believe that the unvaccinated have an enormous effect on me because they do.
00:36:02.040 I think the, the, the, the lockdowns, the masking and all that would all go away if
00:36:07.740 we were a hundred percent vaccinated, but I, I'm not telling you to get vaccinated and
00:36:14.020 I'm completely willing to put up with the inconvenience so that you can maintain that
00:36:18.600 right.
00:36:19.680 Are you okay with that?
00:36:20.680 Are you okay that I willingly take an enormous, enormous load for the unvaccinated, but I do
00:36:29.140 it willingly because I'd rather that you have that freedom.
00:36:34.060 Is everybody comfortable with that?
00:36:36.860 I mean, is that, is that a fair opinion that I am willing to suffer tremendously for you to
00:36:44.300 keep that right?
00:36:45.340 Because if it were the other way around, I'd ask you to do the same.
00:36:48.480 I would, right?
00:36:51.140 But do the shoe and the other foot trick, right?
00:36:54.000 If the thing, if it were the other way around, I would ask you to sacrifice a lot for me to
00:37:01.940 keep my freedom, to not put stuff in my body.
00:37:04.880 I don't want to put in there.
00:37:06.200 I would ask you to put up with a lot for me to have that freedom.
00:37:09.860 And I'm willing to do that for you.
00:37:11.860 I'll put up with a lot.
00:37:13.520 And I am, I think.
00:37:15.500 Now, if you're saying to me, but Scott, you can't be sure if everyone got vaccinated,
00:37:21.840 we'd really be better off.
00:37:23.180 Right.
00:37:23.840 Correct.
00:37:24.700 I cannot be sure.
00:37:26.220 If you're sure about anything, you're lost.
00:37:32.900 All right.
00:37:35.840 Apparently, there's a precedent that I'd forgotten about, but I need a fact check on this.
00:37:40.960 Give me a fact check on this.
00:37:42.160 Is it true that alcoholics don't get liver transplants because they're alcoholics?
00:37:49.940 Can somebody confirm that?
00:37:53.260 I'm seeing some yeses, but I don't know if that's a...
00:37:57.720 There's probably enough doctors on here who can tell me if that's true.
00:38:02.880 Oh, if you're six months sober?
00:38:04.220 Maybe it varies by location, right?
00:38:10.260 Compared to getting an unknown number of shots and boosters.
00:38:13.420 Oh, that's a good point.
00:38:17.280 Let me get back to that about the number of boosters.
00:38:20.280 Yeah.
00:38:20.600 So somebody's pointing out on YouTube that if you're trying to do your risk analysis,
00:38:25.580 did you do your risk analysis assuming that you would get one shot or infinite shots?
00:38:32.000 And is it different?
00:38:33.900 Probably different.
00:38:35.680 Probably.
00:38:36.780 But I will throw in one sort of rule of thumb,
00:38:41.520 which is if the first two shots didn't kill you,
00:38:47.400 I feel like it's really unlikely the third one would.
00:38:52.120 Am I wrong about that?
00:38:53.560 My understanding is that if the vaccinations would cause problems,
00:38:59.120 there's like a 99% chance or something high,
00:39:03.180 that you would see it in the first six months.
00:39:06.380 And so just giving you more of what you've already had,
00:39:09.700 you've probably already proved you're okay with it.
00:39:13.700 Richmond, the goth says you're wrong about that.
00:39:16.940 I could be wrong about that.
00:39:19.020 I could be wrong about that.
00:39:21.380 Now, are you comfortable with that?
00:39:22.620 Are you comfortable with me saying, as a rule of thumb,
00:39:27.280 probably most of the problems happened right away, so we'd know about it.
00:39:31.560 But I'm also allowing that there could be things like,
00:39:35.080 God knows what, down the road somewhere.
00:39:39.620 Could be.
00:39:40.040 So I would say that adding shots definitely increases risk.
00:39:47.020 My guess is not much.
00:39:50.460 That's my guess.
00:39:52.120 But if you told me anybody knows that, no, nobody knows that.
00:39:56.240 Yeah, the first two months is where everything happens, it seems like.
00:40:10.340 At least one person loves my cognitive dissonance shows.
00:40:13.520 All right.
00:40:13.740 Let's see if we can catch anybody in the comments who's got cognitive dissonance.
00:40:19.960 Here's how we'll do it.
00:40:22.100 Oh, let me just do one more thing before we do that.
00:40:24.160 I remember a time, and it was a year ago,
00:40:29.120 when if you gave me a choice between scientific studies,
00:40:35.840 you know, peer-reviewed scientific studies,
00:40:38.040 versus anecdotal reports,
00:40:40.460 I would laugh at you and say,
00:40:42.400 oh, we can't believe these anecdotal reports.
00:40:47.080 We've got actual science.
00:40:49.360 Just look at this study, peer-reviewed.
00:40:52.400 Look at that.
00:40:53.520 It's a thing of beauty.
00:40:55.020 Why would you listen to these anecdotal stories
00:40:57.720 when you've got science?
00:41:00.320 That was a year ago.
00:41:02.560 Today, it's about a tie.
00:41:06.620 And man, am I unhappy about that.
00:41:08.960 You know, one of the most basic things I've always believed about the world
00:41:13.240 is that the science was better than the anecdotal observations.
00:41:20.400 Maybe.
00:41:21.920 Maybe.
00:41:22.880 I think it depends on the situation.
00:41:25.620 But I've got a feeling that people are doing just as well
00:41:29.040 with anecdotal observations during the pandemic
00:41:31.340 as they are with the science.
00:41:34.560 I'm exaggerating a little bit.
00:41:36.120 I'm still pro-science.
00:41:37.360 But, man, has science hurt its credibility.
00:41:41.740 I mean, science has really damaged itself in the last few years.
00:41:46.480 Which is, I don't know, maybe it's good.
00:41:48.540 Maybe we have a better understanding of it.
00:41:50.900 All right.
00:41:52.580 So here's the question.
00:41:56.040 I want you to avoid the following things
00:41:59.060 while telling me what you disagree with
00:42:01.540 about anything that I said today.
00:42:03.660 All right?
00:42:03.920 So you can't read my mind
00:42:06.180 to imagine I have some intent.
00:42:10.120 You can't change the topic.
00:42:13.380 And you can't just say, you know,
00:42:15.520 I suck in words.
00:42:17.580 So tell me what it is you disagree with
00:42:19.840 about something I said about vaccinations
00:42:24.720 or the odds or anything.
00:42:26.620 just from today.
00:42:34.160 Go on.
00:42:34.700 How much money are you going to spend here?
00:42:40.420 Yeah, drinking is an excellent example
00:42:44.140 of something that has a big effect on other people.
00:42:47.920 I bet there's a lot of people who say,
00:42:49.500 just leave me alone.
00:42:50.720 I just want to drink.
00:42:52.740 Get the government out of here.
00:42:53.880 I want to drink and drive my car.
00:42:58.280 I disagree.
00:42:59.360 It's the unvaccinated causing lockdowns
00:43:02.800 since they don't occur in red states.
00:43:08.560 Well, you know, I see your point.
00:43:11.320 It's not one variable, right?
00:43:13.520 So it's not like the only thing that matters
00:43:16.760 is the unvaccinated.
00:43:18.160 That's not the case.
00:43:18.880 But all things being exactly the way they are,
00:43:22.680 which is blue states are more restrictive
00:43:24.500 than red states,
00:43:25.680 if everyone were vaccinated,
00:43:27.620 I think even the blue states would loosen up.
00:43:30.600 Maybe not.
00:43:31.320 I mean, that's speculation,
00:43:32.400 but I think so.
00:43:36.280 Oh, the risk of additional boosters
00:43:38.000 is unknown because of the mix and match.
00:43:40.020 That's a good point.
00:43:43.280 That's a real good point.
00:43:44.280 So, as I said,
00:43:47.660 if you get the same vaccination three times,
00:43:51.040 probably the third one's not much risk at all.
00:43:53.260 That's my guess.
00:43:55.040 But, yeah, if you mix and match,
00:43:56.400 that does introduce an extra risk.
00:43:58.560 However, let me do a counterpoint
00:44:02.140 to your counterpoint.
00:44:04.380 Yes or no,
00:44:06.040 and I really need an expert to help me on this one.
00:44:10.060 Yes or no,
00:44:10.880 Now, let's say you had one kind of mRNA shot
00:44:14.020 and then you decided to mix and match with another one.
00:44:17.620 Could you know
00:44:18.480 that if the first one didn't excite your system
00:44:23.380 to basically attack itself,
00:44:26.000 that the other one wouldn't?
00:44:28.380 Now, I don't think you could know it,
00:44:31.280 but could you think it's probable?
00:44:35.020 Because, in other words,
00:44:36.360 is the mechanism that a vaccination would hurt you,
00:44:39.600 is that mechanism the same across all three?
00:44:42.860 Or at least the two mRNA ones?
00:44:45.720 Yeah, it's all unknowable.
00:44:47.280 It's unknowable.
00:44:48.620 Yeah, every time you introduce an unknown,
00:44:50.460 you've got trouble.
00:44:51.780 All right.
00:44:52.280 Has anybody seen any cognitive dissonance go by?
00:44:56.820 Here we go.
00:44:57.600 James says,
00:44:58.600 experimental vaccine equals fool
00:45:01.000 in all capital letters.
00:45:03.400 Now, that's cognitive dissonance.
00:45:06.580 One of the examples is using word thinking
00:45:10.360 instead of reasons.
00:45:13.340 So, experimental vaccine
00:45:14.880 is trying to win an argument
00:45:16.260 just by putting words on it.
00:45:18.180 It doesn't change.
00:45:19.520 There's no argument there.
00:45:20.960 It's just a word.
00:45:22.880 Why don't I call it the extra safe vaccine?
00:45:26.040 Is it good now?
00:45:27.980 How about we rename it
00:45:30.060 to the vaccine that kills you?
00:45:32.480 Is it worse now because he changed the name?
00:45:35.220 Changing the name isn't anything.
00:45:37.080 That's just words.
00:45:38.460 So, if you have an argument,
00:45:40.360 as in the FDA did not study it
00:45:43.340 as well as the other things,
00:45:46.680 I think...
00:45:48.300 Let me ask you this.
00:45:50.240 How long does it take
00:45:51.280 for the FDA to approve a drug?
00:45:55.120 So, after the tests are done
00:45:56.520 and the FDA gets it,
00:45:58.260 how long does it take to approve it?
00:46:00.060 Anybody know?
00:46:02.740 After the data's there,
00:46:03.980 not before you've done the test,
00:46:06.040 but after the data is done.
00:46:09.060 I'm seeing all kinds of numbers
00:46:10.440 from six months to five years.
00:46:13.380 How long does it take
00:46:16.600 to look at the data
00:46:17.740 that the pharma company
00:46:19.880 packages up and hands to you?
00:46:22.260 Why does it take six months
00:46:24.740 to look at data
00:46:26.440 that's packaged up
00:46:27.660 in exactly the form you asked for,
00:46:30.220 presumably,
00:46:31.420 and it's handed to you?
00:46:32.940 Now, you're not going to go
00:46:34.000 check the data, are you?
00:46:36.580 Do they do that?
00:46:37.880 Well, I mean,
00:46:38.200 what does the FDA do
00:46:39.440 other than look at the data
00:46:41.700 and say,
00:46:42.900 okay, do you have more data?
00:46:45.100 Or, you know,
00:46:45.780 why'd you forget this?
00:46:47.080 But it seems to me
00:46:47.980 that if you were
00:46:48.500 a major drug company,
00:46:50.080 you would know
00:46:50.720 in advance all of the questions
00:46:52.260 and you would give them
00:46:53.780 exactly what they need
00:46:54.980 on day one.
00:46:56.680 Wouldn't you?
00:46:57.400 I mean, if you didn't,
00:46:58.240 you'd be an idiot.
00:46:59.900 So, here's what I wonder.
00:47:02.700 Does it take six months
00:47:05.200 because they're just slow?
00:47:09.020 Or is there something
00:47:10.060 about the process
00:47:10.920 that really takes a long time?
00:47:12.400 Because I don't know
00:47:12.840 what that would be.
00:47:13.460 Remember, I'm talking about
00:47:15.820 all the data is in.
00:47:17.660 From the point where
00:47:18.640 there's no more data,
00:47:19.820 it's all in,
00:47:21.000 how long does it take
00:47:22.040 to approve it?
00:47:22.840 I mean, it's months
00:47:23.380 and months, right?
00:47:25.000 So, now let me change
00:47:27.300 the question.
00:47:29.040 These current vaccinations
00:47:30.500 were approved quickly, right?
00:47:33.960 But it wasn't the trial
00:47:35.560 that was quick, was it?
00:47:37.860 I mean, it didn't run
00:47:38.720 for years and years,
00:47:39.780 but the data they got
00:47:41.180 was real data
00:47:42.360 from a real trial.
00:47:44.380 So, would it be safe
00:47:45.820 to say that the FDA
00:47:48.100 did everything
00:47:48.960 that it normally does
00:47:50.360 just a little faster
00:47:51.640 because they needed to
00:47:53.440 and that they did
00:47:54.840 the same amount of caution
00:47:56.260 except the only thing
00:47:58.840 they couldn't know
00:47:59.700 is what happens
00:48:01.460 down the road?
00:48:03.620 Is that fair?
00:48:05.360 Now, I'm using,
00:48:06.600 I'm speculating
00:48:07.400 and I'm using,
00:48:08.420 I'm making some sort
00:48:09.380 of real-world assumptions.
00:48:10.980 The real-world assumption here
00:48:12.520 is that the reason
00:48:13.940 it takes so long
00:48:15.120 for the FDA
00:48:15.780 to approve something
00:48:16.740 is just incompetence.
00:48:19.520 It's not because
00:48:20.400 they don't have data.
00:48:21.740 It's just incompetence.
00:48:23.780 And the only thing
00:48:24.860 that we miss
00:48:25.480 is the stuff
00:48:26.280 that would be
00:48:26.840 several years down the line,
00:48:29.120 which could be substantial.
00:48:31.880 But historically,
00:48:33.980 it's a very low risk.
00:48:35.340 So, when you say experimental,
00:48:39.040 I would say
00:48:39.700 the only thing
00:48:40.900 you're saying there,
00:48:42.900 probably,
00:48:44.100 is that the only thing
00:48:45.920 we don't know
00:48:46.600 is what will happen
00:48:47.620 in the long run
00:48:48.420 and that's the risk
00:48:50.640 you're asked to take.
00:48:55.680 They have to struggle
00:48:56.820 with good and bad data.
00:48:58.520 But still,
00:48:59.980 that struggle
00:49:00.680 seems to be something
00:49:01.760 that would take
00:49:02.360 two days,
00:49:03.040 not six months.
00:49:03.780 The FDA is hiding
00:49:10.900 the Pfizer data.
00:49:12.940 Is somebody saying
00:49:13.620 that there's some data
00:49:14.400 that hasn't been released?
00:49:17.100 Could be.
00:49:19.980 Approval process
00:49:21.080 adds six months tops.
00:49:22.860 Okay.
00:49:23.900 So,
00:49:24.480 but if the approval process
00:49:26.460 only added six months,
00:49:28.900 why do other vaccines
00:49:30.560 take five to seven years?
00:49:31.940 What are those other vaccines
00:49:35.600 doing wrong?
00:49:37.340 So,
00:49:37.680 there's something about this.
00:49:41.400 Yeah,
00:49:41.980 the thalidomide case,
00:49:44.680 if I were to talk about that,
00:49:46.800 I'd be way over my head.
00:49:49.220 But,
00:49:50.020 let me ask you this.
00:49:53.760 Is the thalidomide case
00:49:55.400 something that we would have
00:49:56.600 seen coming today?
00:49:58.620 In other words,
00:49:59.260 if thalidomide
00:50:00.140 had gone through
00:50:00.680 the same approval process
00:50:02.100 as warp speed,
00:50:05.060 would we have caught it?
00:50:11.440 The answer is,
00:50:12.300 I don't know.
00:50:13.340 I don't know
00:50:14.000 if we would have.
00:50:16.660 Because it really only
00:50:18.160 expressed itself
00:50:19.280 in births,
00:50:20.180 right?
00:50:20.520 You couldn't tell
00:50:21.220 until there were babies born,
00:50:22.360 I think.
00:50:23.620 Well,
00:50:23.940 ultrasound,
00:50:24.620 yeah,
00:50:24.940 I guess so.
00:50:25.420 Yeah,
00:50:29.680 why do we never talk
00:50:30.860 about Regeneron
00:50:31.720 having emergency use?
00:50:34.740 Isn't that the same?
00:50:36.360 By the way,
00:50:36.840 I have,
00:50:37.220 I bought stock
00:50:38.100 in Regeneron
00:50:38.800 because I think
00:50:39.820 they'll be selling
00:50:40.360 a lot of that stuff.
00:50:43.800 It's the company,
00:50:44.580 yeah,
00:50:44.900 it's the company's own
00:50:45.960 data that takes time,
00:50:47.180 but after that's done.
00:50:49.200 All right,
00:50:49.700 this is the grift
00:50:51.720 to beat all grifts.
00:50:56.420 Thalidomide
00:50:56.860 is still in use?
00:50:58.640 Really?
00:51:01.980 You think
00:51:02.660 there could be
00:51:03.140 bias with science?
00:51:04.160 Of course.
00:51:05.740 Yes,
00:51:06.320 science is,
00:51:06.960 of course,
00:51:08.200 you know,
00:51:08.420 the whole point
00:51:09.300 of science
00:51:09.980 is to drive out
00:51:10.800 the bias,
00:51:12.220 which means
00:51:12.780 they know
00:51:13.080 there's a lot
00:51:13.600 there to drive out.
00:51:18.160 Used to treat
00:51:19.200 oh,
00:51:19.900 thalidomide
00:51:20.340 is used
00:51:20.700 to treat cancer today,
00:51:22.140 so I imagine
00:51:22.800 that they just
00:51:23.600 make sure
00:51:24.900 that you're not
00:51:25.540 likely to get pregnant.
00:51:29.580 Scott,
00:51:30.120 how often
00:51:30.480 do you misidentify
00:51:31.440 cognitive dissonance?
00:51:32.940 Simply because
00:51:33.520 most people
00:51:33.980 don't put much effort
00:51:34.980 in their comment
00:51:35.700 because they don't
00:51:36.420 expect you
00:51:37.400 to read their comment.
00:51:38.740 Yeah,
00:51:38.920 that's a fair point.
00:51:40.980 Yeah,
00:51:41.200 there are some people
00:51:41.940 who do some,
00:51:42.980 I'll call it
00:51:43.540 reflex comments,
00:51:46.020 where it's literally
00:51:46.820 just the first thought
00:51:47.800 in their mind
00:51:48.360 and they type it
00:51:49.180 so yeah,
00:51:50.220 there's some of that
00:51:50.840 but
00:51:51.920 most of it's
00:51:53.820 cognitive dissonance.
00:51:56.140 By the way,
00:51:56.860 if you ever think
00:51:58.100 that I'm speaking
00:51:59.020 in absolutes,
00:52:00.300 you're probably wrong.
00:52:02.680 You know,
00:52:02.860 if I am,
00:52:03.440 I'll tell you
00:52:04.040 but everything else
00:52:05.680 I talk about,
00:52:07.100 you should just assume
00:52:08.000 I mean,
00:52:08.500 you know,
00:52:08.700 usually,
00:52:09.320 mostly,
00:52:10.160 most of the time.
00:52:11.280 You know,
00:52:11.420 just put that in there
00:52:12.360 mentally.
00:52:13.640 Is there any
00:52:20.960 loser think
00:52:21.560 that's not so
00:52:22.280 loser think now?
00:52:23.380 I'd have to re-read
00:52:24.400 my own book
00:52:25.000 to find that out.
00:52:26.760 By the way,
00:52:27.120 there's a Spanish
00:52:27.760 language version
00:52:28.840 of loser think
00:52:29.580 and some Asian
00:52:31.680 language version
00:52:32.500 and I can't
00:52:33.300 identify the language.
00:52:35.020 My publisher
00:52:35.800 sends me the books
00:52:36.920 when they're published
00:52:38.520 in other languages
00:52:39.380 and I don't know.
00:52:43.160 It's got the characters
00:52:45.920 but I don't know
00:52:46.860 if it's Korean
00:52:48.260 or Japanese
00:52:48.920 or Chinese.
00:52:51.680 I'm guessing
00:52:52.540 South Korean.
00:52:55.100 So Korean language.
00:53:00.000 Oh,
00:53:00.520 you bought a Korean
00:53:01.200 copy for your dad
00:53:02.120 so that's probably
00:53:02.720 what it is.
00:53:03.200 It was probably
00:53:03.540 the Korean copy.
00:53:04.340 What is your
00:53:09.600 tremendous suffering
00:53:10.720 because of
00:53:11.560 unvaxxed people?
00:53:13.720 The fact that
00:53:15.480 I need to be masked
00:53:17.080 and
00:53:18.040 you know,
00:53:20.000 I can't go to my gym,
00:53:22.200 I've got to show
00:53:23.080 my vaccine passport,
00:53:26.740 there are places
00:53:27.200 I can't travel,
00:53:29.660 so that sort of thing.
00:53:32.400 Now again,
00:53:33.380 the assumption is
00:53:34.240 that if everyone
00:53:35.000 were vaccinated
00:53:35.800 even the blue states
00:53:36.980 would loosen up.
00:53:38.560 We don't know
00:53:39.280 that to be true
00:53:39.940 but as an assumption
00:53:42.120 it's a reasonable assumption.
00:53:44.340 It might not be true.
00:53:49.080 That's because
00:53:49.660 you live in California,
00:53:50.780 yeah?
00:53:51.280 Don't rub it in.
00:53:54.800 Well,
00:53:55.860 you know,
00:53:56.120 I didn't want today
00:53:56.800 to be a vax discussion.
00:53:59.440 It's more of a
00:54:00.160 persuasion discussion.
00:54:01.920 So,
00:54:02.400 you know,
00:54:03.000 like I said,
00:54:03.480 do what you want
00:54:05.100 to do with your
00:54:05.820 vaccinations.
00:54:10.460 And those of you
00:54:11.700 who are saying
00:54:12.060 that,
00:54:12.420 you know,
00:54:13.880 I'm affected
00:54:14.500 because I'm in California
00:54:15.680 and it's really
00:54:16.400 a California problem,
00:54:18.040 I hear that.
00:54:20.800 I hear that.
00:54:25.280 Should we
00:54:25.900 hold people
00:54:26.840 who choose
00:54:27.300 not to be healthy
00:54:28.100 responsible?
00:54:28.700 There's no
00:54:30.440 practical way
00:54:31.080 to do that.
00:54:37.040 Durango Steve
00:54:37.860 says,
00:54:38.280 your cognitive
00:54:38.940 dissonance
00:54:39.480 on this broadcast
00:54:40.340 is astounding.
00:54:41.900 So,
00:54:42.460 that's cognitive
00:54:43.180 dissonance.
00:54:45.020 So,
00:54:45.600 sorry,
00:54:46.720 Durango Steve.
00:54:48.080 Yeah,
00:54:48.500 so if the best
00:54:49.520 you can do
00:54:49.960 is just blame me
00:54:50.900 for having
00:54:52.100 cognitive dissonance
00:54:53.040 without an example.
00:54:54.000 blaming the
00:54:57.180 unvaccinated
00:54:57.900 is misplaced.
00:54:59.540 The vaccinated
00:55:00.160 are enforcing
00:55:01.160 the rules.
00:55:08.000 Well,
00:55:08.780 you know,
00:55:09.460 everything,
00:55:10.120 everything that
00:55:11.020 exists has to
00:55:12.120 exist the way it is
00:55:12.860 to get what you want.
00:55:13.900 So,
00:55:14.260 the government
00:55:14.660 has to be bad,
00:55:15.840 you know,
00:55:16.080 the,
00:55:16.280 you know,
00:55:17.380 decisions have to be bad
00:55:18.840 and that's true
00:55:19.840 but it's also true
00:55:21.540 that if everyone
00:55:22.400 was vaccinated
00:55:23.100 all the problems
00:55:23.800 would go away
00:55:24.420 or so the
00:55:26.380 vaccinated believe
00:55:28.060 you could question that.
00:55:29.920 I mean,
00:55:30.060 that's certainly
00:55:30.440 not a given.
00:55:36.020 Or a natural
00:55:36.960 immunity.
00:55:38.440 You know,
00:55:39.560 we sort of
00:55:43.940 reached the point
00:55:44.600 where every comment
00:55:45.560 about natural
00:55:46.440 immunity being
00:55:47.240 better than the
00:55:47.940 regular
00:55:48.220 don't we all
00:55:50.620 know that now?
00:55:51.520 I think it's only
00:55:52.340 the government
00:55:52.820 who's not sure.
00:55:54.780 I think every
00:55:56.100 human being
00:55:56.820 in the country
00:55:57.440 who is not
00:55:58.700 officially in the
00:55:59.660 government
00:56:00.000 would tell you
00:56:01.240 that natural
00:56:01.800 immunity is better.
00:56:03.580 It's just,
00:56:04.720 we can't seem
00:56:05.540 to get that answer
00:56:06.320 from the experts
00:56:07.020 but I think
00:56:07.740 we all know it.
00:56:14.140 All right.
00:56:14.860 somebody says
00:56:17.400 the government
00:56:17.880 gets more power
00:56:18.740 by pitting
00:56:19.260 the vaxxed
00:56:20.000 against the
00:56:20.560 unvaccinated
00:56:21.400 and some
00:56:23.940 said I was
00:56:25.760 doing that too
00:56:26.380 pitting the
00:56:26.960 vaxxed
00:56:27.480 against the
00:56:28.000 unvaccinated
00:56:28.660 but certainly
00:56:30.500 not my intent.
00:56:31.960 if you read
00:56:34.880 the super
00:56:35.260 chats
00:56:35.600 you will
00:56:35.980 make more
00:56:36.400 money.
00:56:37.020 Well,
00:56:37.520 the super
00:56:37.980 chats
00:56:38.260 are terribly
00:56:39.080 disruptive
00:56:41.500 so I don't
00:56:43.640 really encourage
00:56:44.260 them and
00:56:45.140 even though I
00:56:45.720 appreciate it
00:56:46.460 I don't
00:56:47.780 encourage them
00:56:48.480 because your
00:56:49.760 regular comments
00:56:50.600 I'm just as
00:56:51.560 likely to read
00:56:52.200 frankly
00:56:52.560 but I always
00:56:55.620 like it when
00:56:56.100 you do.
00:56:56.360 If 100%
00:56:59.800 of us
00:57:00.120 were vaxxed
00:57:00.860 it's not
00:57:02.100 going anywhere
00:57:02.640 because animals
00:57:03.420 can spread it.
00:57:07.880 Let's see
00:57:08.580 FDA has
00:57:09.580 agreements
00:57:10.120 the application
00:57:10.880 review can
00:57:12.080 take 6 to
00:57:12.720 10 months
00:57:13.180 under normal
00:57:13.800 conditions.
00:57:16.360 Yeah,
00:57:16.700 but that's
00:57:17.140 got to be
00:57:17.520 based on
00:57:18.040 competence
00:57:18.860 that can't
00:57:19.500 be because
00:57:20.180 there's some
00:57:20.600 reason you
00:57:21.080 have to wait.
00:57:22.500 If they had
00:57:23.220 enough staff
00:57:23.900 wouldn't it
00:57:24.300 be faster?
00:57:26.360 All right.
00:57:33.820 Okay,
00:57:34.360 the vaccinated
00:57:34.960 are getting
00:57:35.340 COVID so
00:57:36.200 why the
00:57:36.660 jab?
00:57:37.380 All right,
00:57:37.820 I have to
00:57:38.480 answer that
00:57:38.860 question.
00:57:40.200 So this is
00:57:40.680 from user
00:57:41.540 famous,
00:57:42.720 famous,
00:57:43.660 333.
00:57:45.240 The vaccinated
00:57:46.040 are getting
00:57:46.400 COVID so
00:57:47.100 why get the
00:57:47.620 jab?
00:57:47.920 I have to
00:57:48.540 ask you,
00:57:49.600 do you have
00:57:50.020 a news
00:57:50.360 source?
00:57:51.700 Like that's
00:57:52.100 a serious
00:57:52.480 question.
00:57:53.460 Yeah,
00:57:53.680 the person
00:57:54.860 who,
00:57:55.600 and I saw
00:57:56.180 this comment
00:57:56.560 a whole
00:57:56.840 bunch on
00:57:57.880 Twitter,
00:57:58.620 but do you
00:57:59.380 watch the
00:57:59.860 news?
00:58:00.200 That's a
00:58:00.460 real question.
00:58:02.420 Because how
00:58:03.000 could you
00:58:03.300 watch the
00:58:03.860 news and
00:58:04.300 not know
00:58:04.760 why you
00:58:05.260 should get
00:58:05.560 vaccinated
00:58:06.140 even if
00:58:06.880 vaccinated
00:58:07.300 people can
00:58:07.940 get COVID?
00:58:09.460 Are there
00:58:09.860 other people
00:58:10.320 who don't
00:58:10.600 know the
00:58:10.880 answer to
00:58:11.180 that question?
00:58:16.460 But there
00:58:17.060 are a lot
00:58:17.340 of people
00:58:17.640 who are
00:58:17.880 asking that
00:58:18.300 question.
00:58:19.160 Now,
00:58:19.500 I don't
00:58:19.900 know that
00:58:20.220 that's
00:58:20.500 cognitive
00:58:20.920 dissonance.
00:58:22.080 That looks
00:58:22.520 like sort
00:58:23.520 of a news
00:58:24.020 bubble problem.
00:58:26.180 Israel and
00:58:31.560 Vermont and
00:58:32.200 Cyprus are
00:58:33.140 near 100%
00:58:34.320 vaccinated and
00:58:35.240 yet have the
00:58:35.920 highest rates.
00:58:38.560 All of the
00:58:39.980 data about
00:58:41.560 who's vaccinated
00:58:43.000 and what rates
00:58:44.320 they are,
00:58:44.760 that's all
00:58:45.400 misinterpreted.
00:58:47.320 And it's been
00:58:47.940 debunked so
00:58:48.940 widely that it's
00:58:49.840 hard to imagine
00:58:50.500 that you missed
00:58:51.080 it.
00:58:51.240 So if
00:58:53.280 your belief
00:58:53.800 is that
00:58:54.380 the vaccinations
00:58:55.240 quote don't
00:58:56.180 work because
00:58:57.080 vaccinated people
00:58:57.940 get COVID,
00:58:59.260 I would have
00:59:00.000 to think you
00:59:00.420 don't have any
00:59:00.880 news sources,
00:59:01.920 like either on
00:59:02.480 the left or
00:59:02.980 the right.
00:59:03.660 Because both
00:59:04.400 the left and
00:59:04.960 the right say
00:59:06.460 all the time
00:59:08.200 that being
00:59:09.840 vaccinated will
00:59:10.740 make your
00:59:11.320 recovery faster
00:59:12.360 and more
00:59:12.920 likely.
00:59:13.260 And you'll
00:59:14.740 be far less
00:59:15.360 likely to catch
00:59:16.200 it and far
00:59:16.740 less likely to
00:59:17.520 spread it.
00:59:18.720 Now, how do
00:59:19.120 you not know
00:59:19.600 that?
00:59:21.060 Can I ask,
00:59:21.940 is there anybody
00:59:22.380 who's hearing
00:59:22.820 this for the
00:59:23.340 first time?
00:59:25.220 Is there
00:59:25.780 anybody in the
00:59:26.280 comments,
00:59:26.680 tell me,
00:59:27.040 are you hearing
00:59:27.480 it for the
00:59:27.900 first time
00:59:28.580 that although
00:59:30.240 the vaccinations
00:59:31.040 do not
00:59:31.640 completely stop
00:59:32.560 the spread,
00:59:33.740 they make it
00:59:34.780 way more
00:59:35.420 easily recoverable
00:59:37.560 and less
00:59:38.680 spreadable?
00:59:41.220 Is anybody
00:59:41.880 hearing this
00:59:42.340 for the first
00:59:42.780 time?
00:59:47.700 Really?
00:59:49.600 I actually
00:59:52.280 saw somebody
00:59:52.820 say that
00:59:53.280 they saw
00:59:53.780 it for the
00:59:54.060 first time.
00:59:56.920 Prove it.
00:59:58.500 Do you
00:59:58.980 really believe
00:59:59.520 that,
00:59:59.840 Scott?
01:00:04.320 Sounds like
01:00:05.140 fake data.
01:00:07.360 You are
01:00:07.800 trusting experts.
01:00:09.340 Well, let
01:00:10.160 me be as
01:00:11.120 clear as
01:00:12.020 possible.
01:00:12.960 Could it
01:00:13.340 be wrong?
01:00:15.180 I suppose.
01:00:16.320 I suppose.
01:00:19.140 It could be
01:00:19.580 wrong.
01:00:20.320 But I'm
01:00:20.560 just telling
01:00:20.920 you the
01:00:21.300 official,
01:00:22.740 you know,
01:00:23.300 if you're
01:00:24.080 saying you
01:00:24.740 don't
01:00:24.940 understand it,
01:00:26.880 that's
01:00:27.920 different from
01:00:28.460 saying you
01:00:28.880 disagree with
01:00:29.540 it or you
01:00:30.680 think it
01:00:31.180 might be
01:00:31.500 wrong.
01:00:32.120 But if
01:00:32.420 you've never
01:00:32.820 heard that
01:00:33.900 the vaccination
01:00:34.420 makes you
01:00:35.140 way less
01:00:35.660 likely to
01:00:36.260 die,
01:00:37.600 in fact,
01:00:38.800 it lowers
01:00:39.540 the risk of
01:00:40.080 dying to
01:00:40.460 about zero,
01:00:42.020 pretty close
01:00:42.660 to zero.
01:00:43.100 has Scott
01:00:47.840 not heard
01:00:48.280 about the
01:00:48.660 efficacy of
01:00:49.340 the vaccines
01:00:49.980 declining over
01:00:50.820 the past
01:00:51.480 year?
01:00:55.460 Do you
01:00:56.040 think there's
01:00:56.900 somebody who
01:00:57.280 hasn't heard
01:00:57.720 about booster
01:00:58.260 shots?
01:00:59.920 Anybody?
01:01:00.760 Is there
01:01:01.280 anybody here
01:01:01.800 who hasn't
01:01:02.160 heard about
01:01:02.520 booster
01:01:02.820 shots?
01:01:04.520 100% of
01:01:05.520 the people
01:01:05.940 know that
01:01:06.640 the vaccines
01:01:07.220 declined in
01:01:07.900 effectiveness.
01:01:09.040 Everybody
01:01:09.300 knows that.
01:01:10.740 That could
01:01:11.320 have been
01:01:11.580 cognitive
01:01:12.060 dissonance.
01:01:13.100 To imagine
01:01:13.820 there's
01:01:14.100 somebody who
01:01:14.520 doesn't know
01:01:14.960 that,
01:01:15.340 given that
01:01:15.720 we're talking
01:01:16.220 about boosters
01:01:16.780 every day.
01:01:23.620 Let's see.
01:01:28.360 Lisa has a
01:01:29.100 sister who's
01:01:29.960 vaccinated and
01:01:30.880 in the hospital.
01:01:33.060 Anecdotal
01:01:33.620 information.
01:01:38.600 My friend
01:01:39.400 thinks the
01:01:40.040 vaccinated are
01:01:40.820 spreading because
01:01:41.580 they don't know
01:01:42.180 they have it.
01:01:43.100 Well, they
01:01:43.320 are.
01:01:44.280 The vaccinated
01:01:44.920 are spreading
01:01:45.740 it because
01:01:46.720 they don't
01:01:47.160 know they
01:01:47.460 have it.
01:01:48.120 So is
01:01:48.460 everybody else.
01:01:50.700 But they
01:01:51.240 don't spread
01:01:51.620 it as long
01:01:52.200 because they
01:01:53.100 clear much
01:01:55.040 faster.
01:01:56.200 So yes,
01:01:56.520 they spread
01:01:56.860 it, but
01:01:57.340 half as much
01:01:58.500 as the
01:01:59.220 unvaccinated.
01:01:59.800 being healthy
01:02:07.020 being healthy
01:02:07.040 is also close
01:02:08.020 to zero.
01:02:09.340 Yes, but
01:02:10.120 a lot of
01:02:11.380 the country
01:02:11.720 is not
01:02:12.040 healthy and
01:02:13.140 we're not
01:02:13.420 going to
01:02:13.620 change that
01:02:14.020 right away.
01:02:16.780 Scott will
01:02:17.320 be unvaxxed
01:02:18.140 soon.
01:02:18.700 Yeah, if you
01:02:19.260 wait long
01:02:19.620 enough.
01:02:21.980 All right.
01:02:22.600 there wasn't
01:02:24.120 much in the
01:02:24.620 news today
01:02:25.080 that I
01:02:25.400 thought was
01:02:25.900 worthy of
01:02:26.620 discussing
01:02:27.060 because it's
01:02:27.700 a slow
01:02:28.400 holiday
01:02:29.320 time and
01:02:32.220 I think our
01:02:32.920 time is up
01:02:33.560 as you've
01:02:34.520 noticed.
01:02:34.820 So I don't
01:02:35.940 know that this
01:02:36.420 was the
01:02:36.880 this might have
01:02:38.140 been my
01:02:38.500 worst live
01:02:39.760 stream of
01:02:40.680 the year
01:02:41.060 because I
01:02:42.200 know you
01:02:42.440 hate this
01:02:42.780 topic.
01:02:44.880 Chad said,
01:02:45.740 would California
01:02:46.240 loosen up if
01:02:47.080 serology shows
01:02:47.940 75% antibodies?
01:02:49.380 Good question.
01:02:53.560 I think you'd
01:02:54.560 only want to
01:02:55.060 know the
01:02:55.360 antibodies of
01:02:56.240 the unvaccinated
01:02:57.120 wouldn't you?
01:02:58.400 Well, if it was
01:02:59.000 75%, I guess
01:03:00.640 you wouldn't
01:03:01.200 care because
01:03:02.580 that might get
01:03:03.080 you there.
01:03:04.640 I doubt
01:03:05.020 our serology is
01:03:06.080 anywhere near
01:03:06.540 75%.
01:03:07.480 This topic
01:03:09.920 was a waste
01:03:10.540 of my time,
01:03:11.660 says Gavook.
01:03:13.760 I think some
01:03:14.660 of you think
01:03:15.440 the same.
01:03:18.140 The pictures
01:03:18.960 on locals
01:03:19.540 chat is
01:03:19.960 annoying.
01:03:20.360 I like the
01:03:20.760 pictures.
01:03:24.300 All right.
01:03:25.320 That's all for
01:03:25.940 now, and I'll
01:03:26.700 talk to you
01:03:27.320 tomorrow.
01:03:28.460 Tomorrow.