Episode 1575 Scott Adams: Today I Will Trigger Some of You Into Cognitive Dissonance. Sorry
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1 hour and 3 minutes
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135.39117
Summary
I don t care if you get vaccinated, but I would like to try a new experiment to see how many people would be triggered into cognitive dissonance by a fake shock at the thought of a new strain of the flu.
Transcript
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Good morning, everybody, and a welcome to the best thing that's ever happened.
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Coffee was Scott Adams, and it never disappoints.
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I'd like to take a moment to remind you I don't care if you get vaccinated.
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Now, again, I'm not going to talk about whether you should get vaccinated.
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We're going to do a little experiment to see how many people I can trigger into cognitive dissonance in a live setting.
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I'll tell you what to look for, and then you're going to watch it happen in real time.
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So, it's going to be fun, but again, I don't care if you get vaccinated.
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I'm not trying to influence you one way or another, but watch what happens when we just talk about it.
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But first, how would you like to take it up another notch?
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Would you settle for less when you could have more?
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And so, you want more, you want the simultaneous sip,
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and all you need is a cuppa, a mug, a glass, a tank, a gel, a stein, a canteen, a jug, a flask, a vessel of any kind.
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the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better.
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It's called the simultaneous sip, but it happens now.
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Now, I would like all of you to help me express fake shock.
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Do any current events change what I've written in LoserThink?
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So, I'd like you all to participate in this at home.
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I'm going to read you a news headline, and I want you to pretend to be shocked.
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Just when we thought the pandemic could be winding down, it seems there's a new variant.
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Literally, the most fucking predictable thing that could ever happen in the world.
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Now, remember I told you that follow the money works even when it shouldn't?
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Even when money seems to be not part of the decision, it always predicts.
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Because what would be the most profitable thing for the pharma companies?
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And wouldn't you imagine that it's likely that the vaccines will work against the variant?
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Or maybe somebody will come up with a new pill that only works against the variant.
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Well, now you say to yourself, but Scott, the pharma companies might like to sell more vaccines.
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But that has nothing to do with the fact that other scientists have discovered this variant.
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You know, the variant is either there or it isn't, right?
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Except that follow the money always predicts right.
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And I'll say again, the odds that some novel virus, such as coronavirus, which we highly
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suspect may have been engineered, if it were engineered in a way that would trigger a lot
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of deadly variants, wouldn't we have a lot more of them, the deadliest ones, really just one
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I feel as though you would have dozens or hundreds or maybe zero.
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But exactly the right number to support the vaccine program, right?
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That of all the possibilities, from one to infinity, of how many deadly variants there could be,
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there's just three, you know, the original delta and then this one, and they happen to
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I'm a little suspicious of all of this, as all of us should be.
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Let me give you a persuasion lesson in one tweet.
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I tweeted something obnoxious, and the purpose of the tweet was attention, of course.
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So here's the tweet, and I'll tell you what the technique is in it.
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I said that political influence is the product of persuasion skill times reach.
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For example, if I had 10 million Twitter followers, I would be in charge of America.
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So I started with saying that political influence is the product of persuasion skill times reach.
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That if you were persuasively skilled, that wouldn't help you at all if nobody knew about it.
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But if you had a giant platform, you know, 10 million users, you'd have more basic, right?
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So the first part of the influence is that I say something you'll agree with.
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The first thing I say is something you'll agree with.
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It's more like saying something that sounds smart that you agree with.
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What happens when I say something that sounds smart?
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If I say something that sounds smart and you agree with it, what have I done?
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So it's a little bonding thing and primes people for what comes.
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I said if I had 10 million Twitter followers, I'd be in charge of America.
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Someone pointed out accurately that I had once said something along the lines, if I had 1 million Twitter followers, that I would be the most influential person or something like that.
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Now, suppose I could get you to debate whether it would take me 1 million users or 10 million to run the country.
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If you're debating how many users I need before I'm in charge of the country, I've made you accept that I would be in charge of the country as some number, which is a little bit absurd and yet true at the same time.
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I mean, it feels absurd even to me, but it's a little bit true.
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Somebody with my persuasion skills, Trump has them.
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There are lots of other people who have the skills, but they don't necessarily have the huge platform.
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When he had the huge platform and the persuasion skills, President of the United States.
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So, and then I also used the phrase, I would be in charge of America.
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Because those things would make you afraid, right?
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Like, oh, this guy's trying to become president.
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And so I said I'd be in charge of America like it would be a, like a duty.
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Instead of saying I want it, which I'm not sure I do, it would feel like a responsibility.
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So I put that out there, and it was very unpopular as a tweet, because I think it made people uncomfortable.
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But I would argue that about, that at 10 million Twitter followers, I would effectively run the country.
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I believe that the real way to see who is in charge of everything is that there is a battle of competing Illuminatis for every topic.
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Now, I've been behind the curtain enough in the last several years to know that that's actually the best way to see things.
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You know, the cartoonish views we have are, you know, somebody's going to say, Jews control the world.
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Somebody's going to say, it's the elite, or there's an Illuminati, or it's the deep state.
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There's always some shadowy group that you're afraid is running everything.
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The actual best way to see everything is that for every topic, there's at least one Illuminati.
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In other words, one group of people behind the curtain who have something they're trying to influence, but probably competing with others.
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So it's like small groups of shadowy figures, and you don't know their names.
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But by the time you see it, it's coming through a politician's mouth.
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And by then, all the influence has been laundered out.
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There's usually a battle behind the curtain, and then the politician just tells you who won for their vote, anyway.
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And certainly somebody who had my persuasion skills, and again, it's not because I'm genetically gifted or something.
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I'm just saying that I've learned how to persuade, that the techniques are learnable.
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And if you have learned them, if you had 10 million followers, you could pick a topic and probably have a big influence on it.
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How many topics do you think I've influenced already?
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Like in the actual national level, tell me what things you think...
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What things do you think I've directly influenced with, you know, half a million to, I guess, 600 and almost 70,000 followers?
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I'm seeing Trump, I'm seeing China, nuclear policy, telemedicine, the simulation, fentanyl awareness, coffee, telemedicine, yeah.
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So there are enough examples that it makes the point, doesn't it?
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You know, if I tried to influence everything, it would dilute my influence, and I wouldn't be able to get anything done.
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But if you've got X number of followers and you know how to influence, you can pick a topic, and you can really make a dent.
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Right, Greta Thunberg makes a dent because she's picked one topic.
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All right, so apparently this new virus, the Omicron, as it's being called, the big story is that they skipped a few Greek letters to get to Omicron.
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And one of the ones they skipped was the letter XI.
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I don't know how you pronounce the Greek letter XI.
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But if it were a Chinese name, which it also is, it would be Xi.
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So if you pronounce it the way the Greek letter would be, it would be Kai.
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And somebody says Jack Posobiec pointed out that Omicron is an enneagram for moronic.
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But if you're saying to yourself, oh, the World Health Organization skipped the letter Kai because it looks like XI, and then people would say, oh, that's Xi, President Xi of China.
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And I'm not sure that's the reason, though, because I think China, there's already a Xi virus.
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It's called fentanyl, kills about 60,000 Americans per year.
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And that comes from China through the cartels into the United States.
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It's just called fentanyl from fentanyl, China.
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I provocatively tweeted this, which got people all mad, which I suppose I expected.
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I said, is it my imagination or are the unvaccinated secretly hoping the vaccinated die in large numbers to prove a point?
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Now, people, of course, jumped in and said, oh, it's the other way around.
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I think those vaccinated people want the unvaccinated to die.
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And the reason I ask the question is that I felt this pull myself.
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In other words, there's always a pull to be right.
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And unfortunately, some people predict things will go well in the world.
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Even if you don't want things to go poorly, you still kind of do because you want to be right.
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If I asked you, do you want people to die so you can be right, most people will say, no, no, I don't want people to die just so I can be proven right.
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Meaning that the influence to be right is so powerful that it does kind of push you slightly uncomfortably in the direction of being a little bit happy if people died and made you right by dying.
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So I would have been amazed if nobody else had the same feeling.
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Now, again, I don't want people to die to prove me right.
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And one of the comments that I got, and here's where I'm going to start pushing you into cognitive dissonance.
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And by the way, let me tell you what the tells will be.
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So you can see it in yourself and you can see it in the comments.
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And it would look like, Scott, you've lost it with nothing else.
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Or, well, you've really jumped the shark now with no other comment.
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So if you attack the messenger, probably cognitive dissonance.
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If you imagine I'm saying something different so that you can prove me wrong on some point I'm not talking about,
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If you can't handle the points I'm making, you will imagine I'm making a different one and argue that one.
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So watch for that, and I'll point it out when I see it.
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Now, there might be other triggers as they come by.
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But the writing in all caps, I don't know what that means.
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For example, this morning, I heard somebody say on Twitter,
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Scott, why does it seem like you're regretting your vaccination decision?
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I certainly question whether it was right, but regretting it's a whole different thing, right?
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I mean, nobody can be 100% sure you made the right vaccination decision for yourself.
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All right, so I would say that anybody who says they're 100% certain probably has a mental competence problem.
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Because if you're 100% sure that you made the right vaccination decision, there's just something wrong with your brain.
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At least you're allowing that you could be wrong, right?
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So I'm vaccinated, but if you ask me, are you 100% sure that was the right decision?
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I mean, I don't have data that I trust, do you?
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So full certainty is the other way to know somebody's got something going on that isn't good thinking, all right?
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So here's where I'm going to trigger you into cognitive dissonance, some of you, and watch for it in the comments.
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The number one comment I got from the unvaccinated is,
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Because the vaccination people want to do something to us.
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All right, here's where the cognitive dissonance is going to get triggered.
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Why do you accept and reinforce the divisive frame of vaccinated versus unvaccinated?
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Somebody's imagining that I'm increasing the vaccinated versus unvaccinated frame.
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Because I tell you I don't care if you're vaccinated.
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So if you think this is my clever way to, you know, divide people or to cause you to do something, none of that's happening.
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It is definitely true that the vaccinated, on average, are trying to get the unvaccinated people to do something, get vaccinated.
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But it is also true that the unvaccinated are having a huge impact on the vaccinated.
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Because the vaccinated would say, and again, this would be their opinion.
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The vaccinated would say, we could have opened up by now.
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And the vaccinated would say, you have completely fucked up my life by not getting vaccinated.
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I'm just saying that we live in a world where everybody's choice affects everybody else.
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To imagine that you're the one who just wanted to be left alone is, I think, selfish beyond anything I could imagine.
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Because the unvaccinated are having a gigantic impact on every part of the vaccinated people's lives, or so the vaccinated people would say.
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So how many of you would accept that neither of you are leaving the others alone?
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In fact, leaving the other side alone is so opposite of what's happening right now.
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So now I think we would get into, watch, this would be another trigger or indicator for cognitive dissonance.
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Now, word thinking is where you just try to win by defining things.
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So somebody is going to define a way, the way the impact goes both directions.
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Well, no, the people who have no choice are a separate thing.
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So 83% of adults are vaxxed, not fully vaxxed, though.
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Wow, the comments are so long, it's hard to see them.
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So the unvaccinated are being selfish because the vaccinated insist that the unvaccinated must be vaccinated before letting things open.
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Yeah, I'm saying that in a civilized society, everybody expects everybody else to do their part.
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Like, I expect you not to litter so that I can enjoy walking on the street.
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I expect you not to commit a crime so that I can feel safe.
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I'm putting expectations on you all the time, as you are on me.
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So to imagine that this pandemic is the one case where one group can just be left alone.
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They could be left alone if there were six of them and they didn't affect anybody else.
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But you're talking about, you know, tens of millions of people who have a gigantic effect on every part of the other people's lives.
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The idea that you could leave either side alone is purely imaginary.
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And you'd have to sort of word think it to turn it into being left alone.
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Wouldn't cigarette smokers say, why don't you just leave me alone?
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To which I say, you know, I'm sensitive to that argument.
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But you're sitting next to me in the restaurant.
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If you're sitting next to me in the restaurant, is that the same as leaving you alone?
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So my point is, both sides are always influencing both sides.
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So it's a ridiculous argument to say, I just want to be left alone.
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Because that's what the other side wants to do.
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Yeah, if your only reason that you have is an analogy, then you don't have a reason.
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Because you wouldn't need the analogy if you had an argument.
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An analogy is good if you've made your point, but maybe you want to, you know, inform a little extra or something like that.
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Now, the other thing that I saw, and it's, well, so here's a question I asked on Twitter.
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And this is, again, this is not intended to show you my opinion.
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I need everybody to feel that first, or you won't be able to hear the rest of it.
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So I was asking your opinion because I'm interested.
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I'm genuinely interested in your opinion on this.
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So I came up with this totally artificial question to get people hopping mad.
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I said, if you are unvaccinated by choice, and let's say there's no health reason, you just didn't trust the vaccine.
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So if you're unvaccinated by choice, and there's only one bed left in the ICU, and of course, that's never the case because they can expand and stuff.
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But I'm just trying to get to sort of a clarifying of your opinion question, right?
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But if there were only one ICU bed left, and there was a vaccinated person and an unvaccinated person, they both had COVID.
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Do you think that the unvaccinated person has the same moral right, moral, that's the key word, the same moral right to the one bed?
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Do you think the vaccinated and the unvaccinated have the same moral right to be treated?
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So if what you're looking at is the moral standard, yeah, you can't treat people differently, right?
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As soon as you go down that road, it's all lost, right?
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The single most important thing we do as human beings, and certainly in America, the thing that makes America, in my opinion, its strongest thing, is that we don't ever do this.
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We don't treat some people as morally less valuable, you know, even to the point of a fetus, you know, for tens of millions of people.
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It doesn't matter if you've made a bad decision, it doesn't matter if you've made a bad decision, a good decision, it doesn't matter if you're a criminal, old or young, you are morally exactly equal.
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However, but, it would also be a triage decision, wouldn't it, which is different than a moral decision.
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So a doctor on Twitter responded and said that he would treat the vaccinated person first.
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Why would you treat the vaccinated person first?
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The doctor said that the vaccinated person has such a higher chance of quickly recovering
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compared to the unvaccinated that the vaccinated person would open up a bed sooner.
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The vaccinated person is more likely to have a quick rebound and therefore open up another ICU
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If you go for the unvaccinated person first, there's a much greater chance you'll lose that
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person and lose the person that didn't get the ICU.
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I'm not the one who could argue this point, by the way.
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Maybe other doctors would have different opinions.
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Now, how many of you think that the shots increase your rate of myocarditis?
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In the comments, how many of you believe that the shots, the vaccinations, increase your
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So if they have more of it, more compared to what?
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You know what I'm doing to you right now, right?
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Is it logical to compare the myocarditis of the people who got vaccinated to the people
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Except we're moving into endemic territory, which means you're going to get COVID.
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So the real comparison should be not vaccinated compared to unvaccinated.
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In the specific context of knowing we're all going to get it or likely.
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You should compare myocarditis for the vaccinated to myocarditis to the unvaccinated, both of
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So if you get infected, you get more myocarditis.
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How many of you knew that the infection itself can give you myocarditis as well as other things?
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So if you know you're going to get the virus, are you with me?
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Do you buy just the logic of it that comparing it to people who don't have a virus and didn't
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You have to compare it to people with the virus.
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Now, my understanding is, and again, all data is not to be trusted.
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Can we agree that all the data is not to be trusted?
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But if the data we have that's, let's say, public and generally agreed by the experts,
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if that data were correct, and that's a gigantic if, it would be safer to get vaccinated if
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you believed you were going to get the virus anyway, right?
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So I see one disagree, but I don't see a reason.
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Can we not compare it to the time before COVID?
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Let's say, with clear incidence of myocarditis coming from VACs getting into the bloodstream
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rather than the muscles, this argument is missing context.
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I'm not sure we can tell anything about excess deaths.
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You are spending a lot of money for these comments, but I appreciate the money.
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So I got the, there's your first cognitive dissonance trigger.
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So something I said, didn't agree with them, but they, they could recognize it as correct
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James Bond says, Scott is pushing the vaccine again.
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If, if you were here in the beginning, that's cognitive dissonance, because, um, I really
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And I'm willing to accept the, uh, the, the greater restrictions so that you can have that
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No, I believe that the unvaccinated have an enormous effect on me because they do.
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I think the, the, the, the lockdowns, the masking and all that would all go away if
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we were a hundred percent vaccinated, but I, I'm not telling you to get vaccinated and
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I'm completely willing to put up with the inconvenience so that you can maintain that
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Are you okay that I willingly take an enormous, enormous load for the unvaccinated, but I do
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it willingly because I'd rather that you have that freedom.
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I mean, is that, is that a fair opinion that I am willing to suffer tremendously for you to
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Because if it were the other way around, I'd ask you to do the same.
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But do the shoe and the other foot trick, right?
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If the thing, if it were the other way around, I would ask you to sacrifice a lot for me to
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I would ask you to put up with a lot for me to have that freedom.
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Now, if you're saying to me, but Scott, you can't be sure if everyone got vaccinated,
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Apparently, there's a precedent that I'd forgotten about, but I need a fact check on this.
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Is it true that alcoholics don't get liver transplants because they're alcoholics?
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I'm seeing some yeses, but I don't know if that's a...
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There's probably enough doctors on here who can tell me if that's true.
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Compared to getting an unknown number of shots and boosters.
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Let me get back to that about the number of boosters.
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So somebody's pointing out on YouTube that if you're trying to do your risk analysis,
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did you do your risk analysis assuming that you would get one shot or infinite shots?
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which is if the first two shots didn't kill you,
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I feel like it's really unlikely the third one would.
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My understanding is that if the vaccinations would cause problems,
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And so just giving you more of what you've already had,
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you've probably already proved you're okay with it.
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Richmond, the goth says you're wrong about that.
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Are you comfortable with me saying, as a rule of thumb,
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probably most of the problems happened right away, so we'd know about it.
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But I'm also allowing that there could be things like,
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So I would say that adding shots definitely increases risk.
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But if you told me anybody knows that, no, nobody knows that.
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Yeah, the first two months is where everything happens, it seems like.
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At least one person loves my cognitive dissonance shows.
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Let's see if we can catch anybody in the comments who's got cognitive dissonance.
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Oh, let me just do one more thing before we do that.
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when if you gave me a choice between scientific studies,
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Why would you listen to these anecdotal stories
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You know, one of the most basic things I've always believed about the world
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is that the science was better than the anecdotal observations.
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But I've got a feeling that people are doing just as well
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with anecdotal observations during the pandemic
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I mean, science has really damaged itself in the last few years.
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of something that has a big effect on other people.
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and I really need an expert to help me on this one.
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and then you decided to mix and match with another one.
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that if the first one didn't excite your system
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is the mechanism that a vaccination would hurt you,
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Has anybody seen any cognitive dissonance go by?