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Real Coffee with Scott Adams
- January 05, 2022
Episode 1614 Scott Adams: Let's Talk About Taking Control Back From Teachers Unions and Government
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Now, I'm not sure, but I think I just developed complete immunity from the Omicron variant.
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It feels like it.
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I don't know.
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Time will tell.
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Well, how would you like me to talk about something different for a change?
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Yeah, I hear you.
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I hear you.
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Do you know, I want you to know that I'm as tired of talking about the pandemic as you are.
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So we're only going to brush on it toward the end, but not really talking about the pandemic so much.
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More about psychology.
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But let's talk about some other things.
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My favorite topic is when CNN and Fox News fight.
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I could not be more entertained by their little, their conflict.
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So here's a good one.
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I saw this in a tweet from Versha Sharma.
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And he's quoting CNN's Oliver Darcy.
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And Oliver Darcy of CNN said, quote,
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So this actually happened.
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CNN actually accused Fox News of creating fake news about the insurrection that didn't happen.
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In other words, the fake news, CNN is accusing another news organization of spreading fake news about CNN's fake news.
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I'm not positive.
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Can somebody help me with the negatives of the negative situation?
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But I think it all canceled out and we got truth.
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Because if, help me out here.
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If it's fake news, but if there's fake news about the fake news,
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could it cancel it out and accidentally give you real news?
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I know that's a little optimistic.
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But maybe.
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Maybe.
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We accidentally got news.
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So, yes.
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CNN's belief is that there's absolutely no evidence.
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No evidence of some kind of government conspiracy.
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No, no evidence of that having to do with January 6th.
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I would like to agree with CNN.
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I have to agree with them.
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I would also agree that there is no, what I would call, confirming evidence of FBI involvement in January 6th.
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Does anybody want to disagree?
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I say there's no confirmed evidence.
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Plenty of suspicions.
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Right?
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There's the Ray Epps thing.
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There's the guy with the bullhorn.
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There's the people taking down the fence.
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That, you know, for some reason there's all these unindicted co-conspirators.
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But I'm going to agree with CNN that, to the best of my knowledge,
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there's no proven, let's say proven evidence, you know, make up a term,
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that the FBI was involved.
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Would you agree or no?
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No court has found they were involved.
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But here's what CNN gets wrong, and they get it very wrong, criminally wrong, disastrously wrong,
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wronger than anything could ever be.
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And it goes like this.
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If the Attorney General won't answer the question that Representative Massey asked under oath,
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how many FBI, or actually how many government employees, were involved in January 6th?
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If the government won't tell you the answer to that, the right answer is to presume guilt.
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The government doesn't have a presumption of innocence.
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What are you talking about?
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CNN has, like, the most basic thing about life, backwards.
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Individuals have, individuals, citizens, are innocent until proven guilty, not governments.
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If the government is telling you it's hiding something, they are guilty until proven innocent.
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Is there anybody who would disagree with that standard?
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If the government says, I am not going to tell you this important information about an important topic,
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is the assumption innocence?
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Are you fucking kidding me?
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No, CNN.
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The assumption is guilt.
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The government has to prove they're innocent.
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I mean, if you have this many flags,
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if there were no, let's say, hints or indications or suspicions
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that they had been involved, that would be different.
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But there are plenty, plenty of hints, suggestions, concerns,
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very well short of anything that I would call confirmed, you know, proof.
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But there's a lot of it, and wherever there's a lot of it,
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doesn't matter if it's true, doesn't matter if it's false,
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doesn't matter if the public is crazy, doesn't matter how we got here,
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the burden of proof is on the government.
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They are presumed guilty until proven innocent.
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Under the specific situation that there's plenty of smoke,
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so, you know, you worry that there could be fire,
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and they refuse to answer the questions.
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They refuse to answer the questions.
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Under that situation, you have to assume guilt.
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Does anybody disagree with that?
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Is there even one person who would disagree with that standard?
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Even one?
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I'll bet not.
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I'll bet not a single one of you disagrees with that standard.
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And yes, CNN acts as if that's not the standard,
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because to them it's not.
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To them it's actually not the standard.
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Now, I am way more supportive of Fox News' approach on this.
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Well, I think they might, you know,
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the opinion people get ahead of the facts.
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There's no disagreement on that, right?
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Wouldn't you agree that on Fox,
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the opinion people get ahead of the facts?
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Opinion people do that.
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I mean, it's almost kind of built into the pundit job,
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trying to predict, right?
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But have you ever seen Fox News get ahead of the facts
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and then turn out to be right?
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Can you think of an example of that?
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What would be an example where Fox News was way ahead of the facts
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and then turned out to be right?
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Russia collusion.
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Fox News reported from the jump
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that the Russia collusion story was bullshit.
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From the jump.
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And they were right.
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How many people were accusing Fox News
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of getting ahead of the news
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and being fake news?
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A lot, right?
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And they were completely right.
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Absolutely vindicated.
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Completely vindicated.
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You see, Fox News goes hard at Fauci, right?
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Fox News goes really hard at Fauci.
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In the beginning,
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I felt that was illegitimate.
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Yeah, I didn't feel like attacking him
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was exactly the right move.
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In other words,
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it felt like the opinion people were ahead of the facts.
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Were they right in the end?
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Yeah, they were right.
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The Fox News opinion were way ahead of the facts on Fauci.
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But as we kept watching him,
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oh, they were totally right.
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Totally right.
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Now, I don't mean about any money connections.
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You know, that's unproven.
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But in terms of him as a leader during this thing,
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I think they were completely right
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that there were some credibility issues
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that were just in the past but went forward.
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They predicted it right, I would say.
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Yeah, the Whitmer kidnapping scandal.
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I don't know the details,
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but did Fox News get ahead of the news on that?
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I think so.
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So it's entirely legitimate
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to criticize any of the news organizations
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for getting ahead of the facts,
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but it has to be noted that some people do a...
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Wuhan lab, there you go.
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Was Fox News all over the Wuhan lab
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before the data was available?
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Yes.
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Yes, they were all over the Wuhan lab.
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And they were right.
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What has Fox News been saying
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about the election security of, let's say, 2020?
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I feel as if a lot of the Fox News hosts,
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not all of them,
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but some of them were ahead of the news,
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wouldn't you say?
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They were ahead of the news.
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Well, we don't know if they were ahead of the news
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because the news has not matched them.
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So it could be that they're just wrong in this case.
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It could be that this would be the time
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that they got ahead of the news
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and they were wrong.
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Maybe.
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But you have to look at...
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It's exactly the same people,
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just to blow your mind for a little bit.
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All of those people who are, I would say,
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rightly being criticized for being ahead of the data,
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that's a fair criticism.
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Would anybody disagree?
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It's not an unfair criticism
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to say that opinion got ahead of the data, is it?
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It's almost just a description of opinion.
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I mean, it wouldn't be opinion
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if the data had confirmed it.
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So how do we ignore the fact
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that the very same people who got it...
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Jussie Smollett.
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There you go.
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There's another one.
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Fox News was way ahead of the data,
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and they were right.
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So how many more times
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do the same group of people,
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right, because it's the same pundits
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as CNN, I'm sorry, at Fox News,
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Covington kids, probably.
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I don't know the details in that one.
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But how many times do they have to be right
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before you say,
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well, I get that they're ahead of the data,
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but this is a group of people
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who have been, like, crazy right.
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Not all the time.
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Not all the time, by the way.
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So I'm not suggesting that
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Fox News has a, you know,
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95% opinion getting it right
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before the data.
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Well, what would you say
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would be the percentage?
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If you had to guess,
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the Fox News,
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just the opinion people, right?
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You know who I'm talking about,
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just, you know,
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the Hannity's and the Laura Ingram's
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and Tucker.
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You could add the five to that.
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So I think this will,
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your number out here will depend on.
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So I'm seeing 70%, 90%, 70%.
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I would have guessed,
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I think I would have guessed
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70%,
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which is pretty good for opinion.
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I'm not even sure that you'd say
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that's a bad grade, would you?
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Because remember,
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opinion is,
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it's fact-free.
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It's just starting to,
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you know,
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sense the facts developing.
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Yeah, I think they actually
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do pretty well.
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Fox News.
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If you could do,
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if you could hit a 70% prediction
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by opinion alone,
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you know,
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just reading tea leaves
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and being smart
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and knowing how things work
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and stuff like that,
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that would be amazing.
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70%.
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But 30% is a big problem,
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isn't it?
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If the people you trusted
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because they got it right
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on all those other things,
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what happens if they get
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a big one wrong?
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You know,
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what if Fox News was so right
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that you kind of said,
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okay,
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they keep getting it right,
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but what if they got
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a big one wrong?
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That would be pretty dangerous,
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wouldn't it?
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If it were,
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let's say,
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about health,
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the pandemic,
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that'd be pretty dangerous.
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So I would just say,
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be cautious
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about everything
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you listen to
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on any platform,
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but I don't think
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it's fair
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to say that Fox News
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is wrong
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when you have,
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when they have a track record
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of anticipating
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correctly.
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Pretty well.
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Pretty well,
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I'd say.
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Way better than chance.
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All right.
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Rasmussen has some polls,
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some new polls
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about Biden,
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and apparently
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he's weighing the crapper
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on the economy
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and national security,
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so much so
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that Rasmussen
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had to do some research
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to find out
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if it was the worst ever.
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Biden's numbers
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are so low
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that Rasmussen
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had to go back
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and check,
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is this the worst
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it's ever been
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in any president ever?
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Now it turns out
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it's close
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because I guess
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Obama had
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some bad polls
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on some of the same stuff,
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but at this point
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the number of Americans
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who are rating
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in poor,
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let's say,
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was it half
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or something like that?
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Some gigantic number
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rating in poor
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on both national security
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and economics.
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How in the world
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could he win an election?
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Doesn't it just seem
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like,
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does anybody believe
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he could win an election?
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It's funny
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that he's pretending
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he's going to run.
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All right,
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let's talk about
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the teachers' unions.
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You may have heard
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that the Chicago
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teachers' unions
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have voted
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by some big majority,
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73% or something,
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to not go back
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to class.
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And I guess
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they're going to do
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some remote work action
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or something like that.
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So they're worried
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about the coronavirus,
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don't want to go back
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to class.
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Now,
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here's an interesting thing.
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Does everybody know
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who Max Boot is?
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If you don't,
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just know this.
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There's nobody
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who's more of a Democrat
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than Max Boot.
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If you were to look up
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Democrat
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in the dictionary,
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it would be like
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a little picture
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of Max Boot.
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By that I mean
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you can depend
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on Max Boot
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to say whatever
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Democrats,
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whatever their message is,
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just period.
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Here's a guy
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who's never going
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to get off the path.
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He's going to be
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Democrat message
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all the way,
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every time,
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no doubt about it.
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Here's another one
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that would be like that,
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Joe Lockhart.
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If you've watched him,
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again,
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you don't need
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to know him deeply.
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I'll just tell you
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that you've never
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seen Joe Lockhart
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say anything publicly
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that wasn't exactly
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what Democrats say.
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There's no amount
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of data or information
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that's going to make
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Joe Lockhart
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or Max Boot
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turn on the narrative.
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Am I right?
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Would you agree
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with that?
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Those guys are not
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going to turn
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on the Democrat narrative.
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until you fuck
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with their kids.
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And guess what happened?
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The teachers unions
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are fucking
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with our kids.
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And that was the limit.
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Here's what Max Boot
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tweeted today
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about the Chicago
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teachers unions action.
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This is outrageous.
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These teachers
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need to teach.
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These teachers
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need to teach.
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Kids come first.
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And there's no real danger
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to the teachers
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as long as they
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have had all
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three vaccine shots.
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That is Max Boot
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turning on a
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teachers union.
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Why?
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Because they fucked
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with kids.
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That's too far.
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That's too far.
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What did Joe Lockhart
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say about Max Boot's
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tweet?
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He said,
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I've supported unions
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my entire life.
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I was a member
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of a union.
00:17:29.540
But Max Boot
00:17:30.780
is right.
00:17:31.800
These teachers
00:17:32.480
are playing politics
00:17:33.620
with COVID
00:17:34.220
which is damaging
00:17:35.480
our children.
00:17:36.540
You can't criticize
00:17:37.480
the right for outrageous
00:17:38.720
behavior and then
00:17:39.680
support these teachers.
00:17:47.000
Finally.
00:17:47.560
What did I tell you
00:17:51.400
was going to happen
00:17:53.420
probably pretty soon?
00:17:59.020
You know,
00:17:59.780
I've said
00:18:00.320
if you get in trouble
00:18:02.300
you don't want
00:18:03.740
mom to find out
00:18:04.860
because mom
00:18:06.660
will punish you
00:18:07.720
if you get in trouble.
00:18:08.600
It's like,
00:18:08.800
oh no,
00:18:09.400
mom found out
00:18:10.240
I broke the vase
00:18:11.280
or something like that.
00:18:12.020
So you really
00:18:13.500
don't want
00:18:13.820
to piss off mom
00:18:14.860
but you don't
00:18:17.860
want mom
00:18:18.340
to call dad.
00:18:20.380
Right?
00:18:20.680
Now I'm
00:18:20.980
talking about
00:18:22.340
classic 50s family
00:18:23.740
here.
00:18:24.040
I know it doesn't
00:18:24.500
apply so much
00:18:25.160
in 2022.
00:18:26.680
But
00:18:27.080
I feel like dad
00:18:29.020
just got called
00:18:29.800
on this
00:18:31.620
school stuff.
00:18:33.500
Joe Lockhart
00:18:34.240
I'm just guessing.
00:18:35.760
I assume
00:18:36.100
Joe Lockhart
00:18:36.760
and Max Boot
00:18:37.320
are probably
00:18:37.640
both dads.
00:18:38.820
Am I right?
00:18:40.400
Anyway,
00:18:40.640
can you confirm that?
00:18:41.680
I assume
00:18:41.980
they're both parents,
00:18:42.940
right?
00:18:43.520
Just guessing.
00:18:45.160
But
00:18:45.520
they reached
00:18:47.780
their limit.
00:18:49.260
Now it's time
00:18:49.960
for dad.
00:18:51.380
So it looks
00:18:52.040
like the dads
00:18:52.780
probably
00:18:54.080
are the ones
00:18:54.680
that are going
00:18:55.000
to have to
00:18:55.640
end this.
00:18:57.380
If all the women
00:18:58.340
in the world
00:18:59.260
formed together
00:19:01.400
and protested
00:19:02.480
anything
00:19:02.900
they might get it.
00:19:05.900
If women
00:19:06.700
protest as a group
00:19:07.960
they can be
00:19:08.600
pretty strong.
00:19:09.240
but
00:19:10.640
if you really
00:19:11.660
need to break
00:19:12.300
something
00:19:12.740
like if you
00:19:14.740
just need
00:19:15.060
something
00:19:15.360
to just
00:19:15.800
get broken
00:19:16.440
call dad.
00:19:18.980
He'll break
00:19:19.620
that shit.
00:19:21.280
If you need
00:19:22.180
to go extreme
00:19:23.140
mom isn't
00:19:25.020
the right choice.
00:19:26.860
If you need
00:19:27.780
to threaten
00:19:28.800
violence
00:19:29.580
I'm opposed
00:19:30.960
to violence
00:19:31.500
so I don't
00:19:31.980
promote it
00:19:32.580
but if you
00:19:33.500
need the threat
00:19:34.180
of it
00:19:34.560
you gotta
00:19:35.620
call dad.
00:19:36.420
And we
00:19:39.620
are approaching
00:19:40.200
the point
00:19:40.840
where the
00:19:42.060
dads
00:19:42.520
have not
00:19:43.400
ruled down
00:19:43.860
violence.
00:19:46.980
Somebody says
00:19:47.840
you clearly
00:19:48.300
don't know
00:19:48.720
my mom.
00:19:49.620
Yeah there
00:19:49.900
are definitely
00:19:50.280
exceptions.
00:19:52.400
And I'm
00:19:53.200
not suggesting
00:19:54.980
violence etc.
00:19:56.100
But when
00:19:56.640
things get
00:19:57.240
extreme
00:19:58.400
in terms of
00:19:59.820
when the
00:20:00.140
public is
00:20:00.980
extremely abused
00:20:02.280
at the point
00:20:03.700
where the
00:20:04.020
public is
00:20:04.600
suffering
00:20:05.740
extreme abuse
00:20:06.780
we're not
00:20:07.780
talking about
00:20:08.280
talking anymore.
00:20:09.980
Right?
00:20:10.720
There is an
00:20:11.280
implied violence
00:20:12.620
that comes
00:20:14.000
with male
00:20:14.560
activity.
00:20:15.900
Would anybody
00:20:16.340
disagree with
00:20:16.980
that?
00:20:18.240
Just getting
00:20:18.800
a lot of
00:20:19.140
men involved
00:20:19.880
brings violence
00:20:21.580
with it.
00:20:23.260
So to the
00:20:24.140
extent
00:20:24.480
that dads
00:20:26.860
get interested
00:20:27.760
in any
00:20:28.440
topic
00:20:28.800
and I think
00:20:29.760
they'll get
00:20:30.060
a lot interested
00:20:30.700
in this
00:20:32.000
whole school
00:20:32.920
closing stuff
00:20:33.860
there is an
00:20:35.780
implied violence
00:20:36.960
that doesn't
00:20:39.000
have to be
00:20:39.540
spoken
00:20:39.920
that just
00:20:41.140
comes with
00:20:41.680
large male
00:20:42.360
activity.
00:20:44.880
Right?
00:20:45.940
So nobody
00:20:46.940
has to say
00:20:47.540
it and I
00:20:48.180
definitely don't
00:20:48.880
think anybody
00:20:49.400
should do it.
00:20:50.320
Like I don't
00:20:50.680
want to see
00:20:51.000
any violence
00:20:51.540
about this.
00:20:52.540
But we're
00:20:53.620
at a new
00:20:54.100
level now.
00:20:56.480
And I've
00:20:56.920
told you before
00:20:57.560
that the
00:20:58.100
public is the
00:20:59.120
only tool
00:20:59.840
for ending
00:21:01.060
a pandemic
00:21:01.700
or ending
00:21:02.700
these restrictions
00:21:03.500
or for getting
00:21:04.560
past the
00:21:05.040
teachers'
00:21:05.500
unions.
00:21:06.200
The public
00:21:06.760
is going to
00:21:07.140
have to do
00:21:07.540
this by a
00:21:08.720
solid majority.
00:21:10.440
Something like
00:21:11.040
75%.
00:21:12.160
Do you think
00:21:13.720
that we're
00:21:14.160
close to a
00:21:14.820
75%
00:21:15.760
majority,
00:21:16.420
public
00:21:16.680
majority,
00:21:17.860
of getting
00:21:18.300
the kids
00:21:18.660
back to
00:21:19.040
school and
00:21:19.480
ending,
00:21:20.480
and let's
00:21:21.160
extend this
00:21:21.720
maybe to
00:21:22.120
ending mandates,
00:21:22.960
but let's
00:21:23.220
talk about
00:21:23.560
the school
00:21:23.960
right now.
00:21:25.040
I think we
00:21:25.640
are.
00:21:26.920
I mean if
00:21:27.360
you could get
00:21:27.820
Max Boot and
00:21:28.760
Joe Lockhart
00:21:29.400
on the same
00:21:29.960
team with
00:21:30.620
the staunchest
00:21:32.040
Republicans,
00:21:34.080
I feel like
00:21:34.840
we're pretty
00:21:35.300
close.
00:21:36.000
Okay,
00:21:36.440
Max has
00:21:36.840
confirmed a
00:21:37.440
father,
00:21:37.780
I thought so.
00:21:40.960
It's time
00:21:41.600
for the
00:21:41.880
public to
00:21:43.260
take control.
00:21:45.280
Does anybody
00:21:45.980
disagree with
00:21:46.760
the concept
00:21:47.800
that we
00:21:49.640
don't have to
00:21:50.100
have a fight
00:21:50.620
with the
00:21:50.940
government,
00:21:52.140
because it's
00:21:52.500
not a fight.
00:21:53.620
Ultimately,
00:21:54.260
we're on the
00:21:54.520
same side.
00:21:55.040
The government
00:21:56.800
needs an
00:21:57.320
assist.
00:21:59.000
It needs
00:22:00.420
the public
00:22:01.000
to power
00:22:02.340
up, which
00:22:03.500
is happening,
00:22:04.720
and to just
00:22:05.420
break some
00:22:05.900
log jams.
00:22:07.880
And sometimes
00:22:08.780
you've got to
00:22:09.180
call dad.
00:22:10.480
It looks like
00:22:11.040
dad got
00:22:11.500
called.
00:22:13.800
So I feel
00:22:15.160
like something
00:22:15.880
amazing and
00:22:17.460
good could
00:22:19.660
be about
00:22:20.640
ready to
00:22:21.160
happen,
00:22:22.260
meaning that
00:22:23.080
I would be
00:22:23.760
really surprised
00:22:24.580
if the
00:22:25.000
teachers'
00:22:25.480
unions don't
00:22:26.040
back down
00:22:26.620
pretty quickly.
00:22:27.780
What do you
00:22:28.100
think?
00:22:29.240
Do you think
00:22:29.660
the teachers'
00:22:30.320
unions will
00:22:30.860
go ahead as
00:22:31.800
if the rest
00:22:32.980
of the world
00:22:33.400
doesn't matter?
00:22:34.640
Or do you
00:22:35.260
think that
00:22:35.820
turning Democrats
00:22:37.380
against them,
00:22:39.420
and the dads
00:22:40.220
especially,
00:22:41.780
do you think
00:22:42.320
that will make
00:22:42.720
a difference?
00:22:47.720
Yeah,
00:22:48.320
I don't know.
00:22:48.920
I would bet
00:22:50.080
that the
00:22:50.620
teachers'
00:22:51.120
unions will get
00:22:51.920
enough pressure
00:22:52.520
to back down.
00:22:53.240
now they
00:22:54.800
have some
00:22:55.100
competition
00:22:55.620
over in
00:22:56.160
Arizona,
00:22:57.020
according to
00:22:57.820
Corey De
00:22:59.020
Angelis,
00:22:59.560
who's the
00:23:00.420
biggest name
00:23:01.040
in the
00:23:01.640
teachers'
00:23:02.420
unions
00:23:02.760
conversations.
00:23:05.980
By the way,
00:23:06.700
if you're not
00:23:07.040
following Corey,
00:23:08.280
you need to.
00:23:10.460
That's a
00:23:11.060
requirement.
00:23:13.140
If you watch
00:23:14.020
me on
00:23:14.320
live stream,
00:23:15.700
one of the
00:23:16.240
best people
00:23:16.700
to follow
00:23:18.280
is Corey
00:23:19.040
De
00:23:19.520
Angelis.
00:23:20.160
just Google
00:23:22.100
him,
00:23:22.320
he'll pop
00:23:22.680
up.
00:23:23.580
Anyway,
00:23:24.740
Doug Ducey,
00:23:25.800
governor of
00:23:26.280
Arizona,
00:23:27.200
announced that
00:23:28.020
eligible families
00:23:29.220
will be able to
00:23:29.900
take their
00:23:30.320
children's
00:23:30.880
education dollars
00:23:31.860
elsewhere if
00:23:33.200
their public
00:23:33.720
school closes.
00:23:35.180
There we go.
00:23:36.920
That's how you
00:23:37.400
do it.
00:23:38.840
That's how you
00:23:39.520
do it.
00:23:40.520
You don't have
00:23:41.020
to break the
00:23:41.620
union,
00:23:42.600
you just give
00:23:43.400
them competition
00:23:44.000
because it's the
00:23:45.360
last thing they
00:23:46.100
want.
00:23:46.460
the last
00:23:48.200
thing the
00:23:48.800
teachers'
00:23:49.280
unions want
00:23:49.960
is competition.
00:23:52.240
So let's
00:23:52.620
give it to
00:23:52.980
them.
00:23:53.900
You don't
00:23:54.220
have to make
00:23:56.100
a law to
00:23:56.660
ban them.
00:23:57.960
But what
00:23:58.480
if we did?
00:24:00.160
Let me ask
00:24:00.920
you this.
00:24:01.300
Do you think
00:24:01.700
that the
00:24:02.160
military should
00:24:03.040
be allowed
00:24:03.480
to form a
00:24:04.240
union?
00:24:05.580
It's a
00:24:06.180
volunteer army
00:24:06.900
in the United
00:24:07.980
States.
00:24:08.700
Do you think
00:24:09.080
soldiers,
00:24:10.120
the Marines,
00:24:10.860
etc.,
00:24:11.340
do you think
00:24:12.000
that they
00:24:12.300
should be
00:24:12.520
able to
00:24:12.780
form a
00:24:13.300
union to
00:24:14.240
make demands
00:24:15.040
of their
00:24:15.680
leaders?
00:24:18.820
No.
00:24:20.740
No.
00:24:22.440
It's not
00:24:23.020
going to be
00:24:23.300
a very good
00:24:24.220
military if
00:24:24.960
it's got a
00:24:25.360
union.
00:24:26.220
No.
00:24:27.280
It's an
00:24:27.680
obvious
00:24:28.040
exception.
00:24:29.520
Right?
00:24:30.720
Now,
00:24:31.720
how many of
00:24:33.160
you are
00:24:33.400
pro-union,
00:24:34.140
by the way,
00:24:34.480
just sort of
00:24:34.900
in general?
00:24:35.480
That doesn't
00:24:35.840
mean applied
00:24:36.480
to every
00:24:36.920
situation.
00:24:37.900
But how
00:24:38.240
many of
00:24:38.580
you are
00:24:38.920
generally
00:24:39.380
positive
00:24:40.960
about unions
00:24:41.940
historically,
00:24:43.540
let's say?
00:24:44.960
Yeah,
00:24:45.120
a lot of
00:24:45.920
conservatives
00:24:46.380
are saying
00:24:46.880
no.
00:24:48.440
We've got
00:24:48.740
some yeses,
00:24:49.460
but a lot
00:24:49.720
of noes.
00:24:50.660
So,
00:24:51.460
I understand
00:24:54.400
the anti-union
00:24:55.760
argument.
00:24:57.360
The anti-union
00:24:58.480
argument is,
00:24:59.540
you know,
00:24:59.760
let the free
00:25:00.360
market work
00:25:00.980
it out.
00:25:01.900
But I
00:25:02.620
would say
00:25:03.040
historically,
00:25:04.020
the free
00:25:04.440
market has
00:25:05.240
too many
00:25:06.140
imperfections
00:25:07.120
for that to
00:25:08.400
lead to a
00:25:08.900
public good.
00:25:10.700
I think that
00:25:11.460
the unions may
00:25:12.340
have destroyed
00:25:12.840
some companies.
00:25:13.760
There's no
00:25:14.560
doubt about
00:25:14.940
that.
00:25:15.860
But I
00:25:17.460
do think
00:25:17.920
the unions
00:25:18.520
balance power
00:25:20.600
in a way
00:25:21.120
that is
00:25:21.940
more productive
00:25:22.580
than not.
00:25:23.500
In effect,
00:25:24.260
the union
00:25:24.600
is competition,
00:25:25.600
isn't it?
00:25:27.400
Basically,
00:25:28.220
the union
00:25:28.700
forms a
00:25:30.300
sort of
00:25:30.940
a competition
00:25:31.680
with the
00:25:32.800
owners,
00:25:33.620
and I
00:25:34.940
like
00:25:35.240
competition.
00:25:35.940
unionize,
00:25:36.940
so while
00:25:38.540
you might
00:25:39.060
disagree with
00:25:40.380
unions because
00:25:41.160
they seem
00:25:41.880
to slow
00:25:43.840
down, I
00:25:44.420
don't know
00:25:44.600
what, the
00:25:45.320
economy,
00:25:47.080
I like
00:25:48.140
situations where
00:25:49.020
there's a
00:25:49.340
balance of
00:25:49.820
power.
00:25:51.440
So I like
00:25:52.120
giving employees
00:25:52.760
some power.
00:25:54.180
Doesn't work
00:25:54.900
in every
00:25:55.240
situation,
00:25:56.280
though.
00:25:56.980
And I
00:25:57.360
would suggest
00:25:57.960
that for the
00:25:58.600
same reason
00:25:59.100
we don't
00:25:59.580
allow military
00:26:01.160
people to
00:26:01.860
unionize,
00:26:02.560
we should
00:26:04.140
not allow
00:26:04.700
teachers to
00:26:05.420
unionize.
00:26:06.800
How many
00:26:07.520
of you
00:26:07.940
would agree
00:26:08.680
that the
00:26:11.160
military and
00:26:12.460
teachers would
00:26:13.620
be categories
00:26:14.780
that could
00:26:15.280
not unionize?
00:26:19.440
Almost
00:26:19.920
complete
00:26:20.400
agreement.
00:26:22.140
Now,
00:26:22.720
remember,
00:26:23.240
I'm pro-union.
00:26:24.760
I'm pro-union.
00:26:26.840
And,
00:26:27.360
however,
00:26:28.600
I would
00:26:29.060
accept as
00:26:30.280
an alternative
00:26:30.860
more
00:26:32.920
market
00:26:35.720
options.
00:26:37.920
I think
00:26:38.280
the free
00:26:38.660
market can
00:26:39.320
produce
00:26:40.540
education
00:26:41.620
better than
00:26:42.160
the public
00:26:42.800
market.
00:26:45.940
But not
00:26:46.600
yet.
00:26:48.140
I mean,
00:26:48.440
if today
00:26:49.260
you just
00:26:49.640
said,
00:26:49.900
all right,
00:26:50.300
you don't
00:26:50.580
have to go
00:26:50.940
to public
00:26:51.240
school,
00:26:51.660
you can
00:26:51.980
choose
00:26:53.200
yourself,
00:26:53.620
there wouldn't
00:26:53.900
be enough
00:26:54.320
structure to
00:26:55.280
compete.
00:26:57.760
But in
00:26:58.320
the long
00:26:58.660
run,
00:26:59.020
I don't
00:26:59.380
think there's
00:26:59.740
any doubt
00:27:00.440
that private
00:27:01.240
education would
00:27:02.020
be better
00:27:02.340
than public.
00:27:03.920
I don't
00:27:04.400
think there's
00:27:04.720
any doubt.
00:27:05.660
Because
00:27:06.000
competition
00:27:06.560
just gets
00:27:07.100
you there
00:27:07.380
over time.
00:27:08.500
It just
00:27:08.820
would take
00:27:09.120
a while.
00:27:10.340
All right,
00:27:10.800
so I
00:27:11.800
would say
00:27:12.100
we should
00:27:12.440
push for
00:27:13.040
making
00:27:13.440
teachers'
00:27:14.400
unions
00:27:14.760
illegal,
00:27:15.900
unless we
00:27:16.600
do the
00:27:17.060
Governor
00:27:18.020
Doug Ducey
00:27:18.720
method of
00:27:19.360
making sure
00:27:20.740
that you
00:27:21.000
can take
00:27:21.320
your money
00:27:21.640
elsewhere.
00:27:21.940
I see
00:27:26.220
a lot
00:27:26.500
of talk
00:27:26.900
about
00:27:27.500
the
00:27:28.940
election
00:27:29.340
rules,
00:27:30.360
and
00:27:30.520
Democrats
00:27:31.380
want to
00:27:31.760
have a
00:27:32.020
bunch
00:27:32.200
of
00:27:33.120
new
00:27:33.940
legislation
00:27:35.380
about
00:27:35.920
election
00:27:36.720
integrity,
00:27:37.880
and of
00:27:38.240
course the
00:27:38.620
Republicans
00:27:39.020
want,
00:27:39.960
they're still
00:27:40.320
talking about
00:27:40.800
the past
00:27:41.260
elections,
00:27:42.140
et cetera,
00:27:42.940
and nobody
00:27:44.300
can agree
00:27:44.720
on all
00:27:45.000
that stuff.
00:27:45.520
But here's
00:27:45.840
my take.
00:27:47.680
I don't
00:27:48.360
consider any
00:27:49.060
of our
00:27:49.440
leaders
00:27:49.860
legitimate.
00:27:51.060
I don't
00:27:54.500
consider any
00:27:55.340
of our
00:27:55.740
leaders
00:27:56.100
legitimate,
00:27:56.800
not Democrats,
00:27:57.700
not Republicans,
00:27:58.720
not Independents.
00:27:59.720
None of
00:28:00.140
them are
00:28:00.440
legitimate
00:28:00.860
because we
00:28:01.480
don't have
00:28:02.020
a transparent
00:28:02.740
election
00:28:03.220
system.
00:28:04.800
Now,
00:28:05.120
I'm going
00:28:05.380
to go
00:28:05.640
with the
00:28:05.920
flow.
00:28:06.680
I'm not
00:28:06.960
going to
00:28:07.580
start a
00:28:08.040
revolution,
00:28:08.980
because for
00:28:09.900
some reason
00:28:10.380
things are
00:28:10.840
cooking along
00:28:11.540
okay,
00:28:12.680
relative to
00:28:13.800
how they
00:28:14.720
could be.
00:28:15.720
But I
00:28:16.740
refuse to
00:28:17.400
consider any
00:28:18.000
of our
00:28:18.280
elected
00:28:18.600
leaders
00:28:19.020
legitimate.
00:28:21.060
Because
00:28:21.540
legitimate
00:28:22.040
would
00:28:22.720
infer
00:28:24.200
that we
00:28:26.240
knew they
00:28:26.660
were elected
00:28:27.240
with a
00:28:28.080
system that
00:28:29.600
worked.
00:28:29.940
We don't
00:28:30.220
know that.
00:28:31.360
We know
00:28:31.900
we have a
00:28:32.320
system that
00:28:32.800
can't tell
00:28:33.300
us that.
00:28:34.440
All we
00:28:34.880
know is
00:28:35.260
something goes
00:28:35.820
into a
00:28:36.200
black box
00:28:36.960
or votes,
00:28:39.080
and then what
00:28:39.540
comes out is a
00:28:40.360
politician,
00:28:40.960
but we don't
00:28:41.320
know what's
00:28:41.620
happening inside
00:28:42.240
the black
00:28:42.660
box.
00:28:43.900
So we can
00:28:44.700
certainly say
00:28:45.280
that the
00:28:45.940
system has
00:28:46.740
decided that
00:28:47.660
they are in
00:28:49.380
that job.
00:28:49.940
that's
00:28:52.100
true.
00:28:52.840
The system
00:28:53.540
did what
00:28:53.940
the system
00:28:54.380
does,
00:28:54.920
and somebody
00:28:55.600
sits in
00:28:56.040
that office
00:28:56.520
and does
00:28:57.060
that work.
00:28:58.420
So we
00:28:58.820
can acknowledge
00:28:59.360
the reality
00:29:00.140
that the
00:29:01.320
system is
00:29:01.940
selecting
00:29:02.500
leaders,
00:29:03.240
but I
00:29:03.820
don't think
00:29:04.200
that any
00:29:04.580
of us
00:29:04.820
should consider
00:29:05.340
those leaders
00:29:05.860
legitimate,
00:29:07.380
because we
00:29:08.440
would have
00:29:08.760
no way of
00:29:09.300
knowing if
00:29:09.940
they had
00:29:10.200
actually been
00:29:10.720
elected.
00:29:12.480
I mean,
00:29:14.300
just think
00:29:14.720
about this.
00:29:15.940
Given the
00:29:16.560
non-transparency
00:29:17.820
and non-auditable
00:29:19.760
nature of our
00:29:20.700
elections,
00:29:21.720
you can't
00:29:22.320
audit all of
00:29:22.940
it, you can
00:29:23.300
just audit
00:29:23.800
some pieces
00:29:24.600
of it.
00:29:25.780
Given that,
00:29:27.540
why would
00:29:29.160
anybody be
00:29:29.880
legitimately
00:29:30.820
elected?
00:29:32.360
So I think
00:29:33.200
I'm going to
00:29:33.520
start using
00:29:34.040
that kind
00:29:34.560
of language.
00:29:36.260
Yeah, I'm
00:29:36.520
going to
00:29:36.660
talk about
00:29:37.220
people who
00:29:38.040
are allegedly
00:29:38.660
elected,
00:29:39.980
because I
00:29:41.320
think we
00:29:41.580
need to
00:29:41.860
talk about
00:29:42.480
the elections
00:29:43.120
the same
00:29:43.580
way we
00:29:43.900
talk about
00:29:44.540
people who
00:29:45.100
are accused
00:29:45.700
of crimes.
00:29:47.440
There are
00:29:48.120
alleged
00:29:48.540
criminals,
00:29:50.080
and we
00:29:50.700
have alleged
00:29:51.320
elections.
00:29:53.100
We can't
00:29:54.020
confirm that
00:29:54.740
an election
00:29:55.180
happened.
00:29:57.560
Think about
00:29:58.380
that.
00:29:59.320
We can't
00:30:00.020
even confirm
00:30:00.640
if an
00:30:01.080
election
00:30:01.360
happened,
00:30:02.420
much less
00:30:03.040
who got
00:30:03.840
elected.
00:30:05.880
You know,
00:30:06.460
we're one
00:30:07.400
decision away
00:30:08.420
from even
00:30:09.120
knowing if
00:30:09.660
the right
00:30:10.000
person got
00:30:10.540
elected.
00:30:10.800
We don't
00:30:11.080
even know
00:30:11.380
if we had
00:30:11.800
one.
00:30:12.640
We literally
00:30:13.360
don't fucking
00:30:14.100
know if we
00:30:14.600
had an
00:30:14.960
election.
00:30:15.700
We only
00:30:16.360
know that
00:30:16.840
somebody told
00:30:17.480
us we
00:30:17.840
had one.
00:30:19.000
We don't
00:30:19.560
know what
00:30:19.920
happened.
00:30:21.560
And as
00:30:21.880
long as
00:30:22.140
that's the
00:30:22.460
case,
00:30:22.760
they are
00:30:23.060
alleged
00:30:23.460
leaders,
00:30:24.960
and that's
00:30:25.820
it.
00:30:26.580
And by
00:30:26.880
the way,
00:30:27.160
I'll say
00:30:27.460
the same
00:30:27.800
thing if
00:30:28.320
there's a
00:30:28.680
Republican
00:30:29.060
president,
00:30:30.240
as long
00:30:30.640
as the
00:30:31.000
system is
00:30:33.000
not
00:30:33.520
transparent.
00:30:34.880
So our
00:30:35.220
alleged
00:30:35.700
leaders.
00:30:39.800
Anyway,
00:30:40.440
let's talk
00:30:40.820
about
00:30:41.180
something
00:30:43.240
else.
00:30:44.000
Michael
00:30:44.520
Schellenberger is
00:30:45.260
pointing out
00:30:45.700
that
00:30:45.980
Bloomberg,
00:30:46.840
the
00:30:47.040
publication,
00:30:48.980
has now
00:30:51.480
accepted,
00:30:53.580
after being
00:30:54.360
very big on
00:30:55.400
green energy,
00:30:56.320
so you'd
00:30:56.760
expect the
00:30:57.320
Bloomberg
00:30:57.640
publication
00:30:58.400
being left
00:31:00.100
leaning,
00:31:00.680
that it would
00:31:01.020
have a lot
00:31:01.500
of green
00:31:02.200
energy and
00:31:03.220
solar power,
00:31:04.880
you know,
00:31:05.280
yay,
00:31:05.680
yay,
00:31:05.800
yay kind
00:31:06.200
of stuff.
00:31:06.560
but as
00:31:09.360
Michael
00:31:10.960
Schellenberger
00:31:11.420
says in
00:31:11.880
his tweet,
00:31:12.620
he says,
00:31:13.120
but now one
00:31:13.760
of the
00:31:13.980
biggest
00:31:14.280
boosters
00:31:14.720
of natural
00:31:15.460
gas and
00:31:16.120
renewables,
00:31:17.460
media giant
00:31:18.660
Bloomberg,
00:31:20.220
whose owner
00:31:20.620
Michael
00:31:20.960
Bloomberg is
00:31:21.920
directly
00:31:22.340
invested in
00:31:23.060
natural gas
00:31:23.580
and renewables,
00:31:24.720
has published
00:31:25.200
an article
00:31:25.720
conceding and
00:31:27.060
substantiating
00:31:28.100
almost every
00:31:28.840
single point
00:31:29.500
we made
00:31:30.340
over the
00:31:30.680
years.
00:31:31.620
Now we
00:31:31.960
meaning
00:31:32.360
Michael
00:31:33.220
Schellenberger
00:31:33.700
and his
00:31:34.220
group of
00:31:35.460
advocates
00:31:35.940
there.
00:31:37.000
And here's
00:31:38.840
what the
00:31:39.280
article says,
00:31:39.920
it says,
00:31:40.280
Europe has
00:31:40.780
sleepwalked
00:31:41.540
into an
00:31:42.000
energy crisis
00:31:42.800
that could
00:31:43.800
last years,
00:31:45.900
screams the
00:31:46.500
headline.
00:31:47.100
The article
00:31:47.520
concludes,
00:31:48.380
Schellenberger
00:31:49.220
says,
00:31:49.820
the article
00:31:50.220
concludes that
00:31:51.020
the crisis
00:31:51.500
was years
00:31:52.280
in the
00:31:52.580
making because
00:31:53.740
Europe is
00:31:54.280
quote,
00:31:54.600
shutting down
00:31:55.200
coal-fired
00:31:55.860
electricity
00:31:56.340
plants and
00:31:56.940
increasing
00:31:57.340
reliance on
00:31:58.060
renewables.
00:31:59.400
So suddenly,
00:32:00.680
it's all
00:32:01.580
obvious in
00:32:02.140
hindsight.
00:32:03.700
So from
00:32:05.360
the very
00:32:05.720
beginning,
00:32:06.820
the Michael
00:32:07.420
Schellenbergers
00:32:08.440
and lots
00:32:09.560
of other
00:32:09.880
people,
00:32:10.540
lots of
00:32:11.020
other people
00:32:11.520
were saying
00:32:12.420
if you
00:32:13.060
replace
00:32:14.260
reliable
00:32:14.920
sources of
00:32:15.660
energy with
00:32:16.300
unreliable
00:32:17.180
sources,
00:32:18.480
you might
00:32:19.300
get unreliable
00:32:20.540
energy.
00:32:23.000
Weirdly,
00:32:24.320
that was
00:32:25.980
disputed.
00:32:27.460
If you
00:32:28.340
replace
00:32:28.820
reliable
00:32:30.500
stuff with
00:32:31.100
unreliable
00:32:31.820
stuff,
00:32:32.720
by its
00:32:33.220
nature,
00:32:33.700
it's not
00:32:34.780
even an
00:32:35.160
opinion.
00:32:36.660
That's
00:32:37.120
something
00:32:37.380
that nobody
00:32:37.800
would even
00:32:38.200
disagree
00:32:38.560
with.
00:32:39.600
Is solar
00:32:40.120
power,
00:32:41.280
does it
00:32:41.940
work at
00:32:42.260
night?
00:32:43.440
Nobody
00:32:43.920
says yes
00:32:44.480
to that.
00:32:45.320
How about
00:32:45.620
that wind
00:32:46.020
power?
00:32:46.840
Does it
00:32:47.180
work when
00:32:47.540
the wind
00:32:47.800
isn't
00:32:48.080
blowing?
00:32:48.880
Again,
00:32:49.860
nobody
00:32:50.280
says it
00:32:50.740
does.
00:32:52.000
So you
00:32:52.380
have a
00:32:52.680
situation
00:32:53.140
where people
00:32:54.040
intentionally
00:32:55.780
and aggressively
00:32:56.800
switched from
00:32:58.360
reliable power
00:32:59.480
to unreliable
00:33:00.420
power,
00:33:01.280
knew they
00:33:01.840
were doing
00:33:02.260
it, and
00:33:03.380
when they
00:33:03.720
were done,
00:33:04.180
they said,
00:33:05.040
oh, shit,
00:33:06.400
our power
00:33:06.980
is not
00:33:07.360
reliable.
00:33:11.880
But we're
00:33:13.880
at least
00:33:14.140
seeing a
00:33:14.520
turn in
00:33:15.240
the opinion
00:33:15.920
makers,
00:33:16.960
the
00:33:17.080
Bloombergs
00:33:17.720
of the
00:33:17.960
world,
00:33:18.300
realizing
00:33:18.720
that a
00:33:20.420
lot of
00:33:20.660
the green
00:33:21.460
push was
00:33:22.800
based on
00:33:23.500
overtly
00:33:24.620
impractical
00:33:25.500
ideas.
00:33:26.040
things on
00:33:28.160
the surface
00:33:28.720
were
00:33:28.980
impractical.
00:33:30.920
Like,
00:33:31.220
just describing
00:33:31.980
the plan
00:33:32.680
tells you
00:33:33.200
it won't
00:33:33.520
work.
00:33:35.100
You know,
00:33:35.620
if you have
00:33:36.000
a plan
00:33:36.520
that you
00:33:37.440
know won't
00:33:37.900
work because
00:33:38.540
the not
00:33:39.000
working part
00:33:39.600
is built
00:33:40.060
into the
00:33:40.560
description
00:33:41.040
of the
00:33:41.380
plan,
00:33:42.240
you really
00:33:43.300
have a
00:33:43.680
problem.
00:33:44.940
Hey,
00:33:45.180
let's
00:33:45.400
replace our
00:33:46.240
reliable
00:33:47.040
energy with
00:33:47.840
unreliable
00:33:48.640
energy.
00:33:50.380
Did you
00:33:51.000
need to
00:33:51.380
debate that?
00:33:52.040
because the
00:33:55.680
plan is
00:33:56.360
the debate.
00:33:57.620
The plan
00:33:58.140
is telling
00:33:58.540
you it's
00:33:58.860
not going
00:33:59.160
to work.
00:34:00.400
Let's
00:34:00.660
cure our
00:34:02.720
headaches by
00:34:03.580
shooting
00:34:04.940
ourselves in
00:34:05.540
the foot.
00:34:06.960
I mean,
00:34:07.200
you know
00:34:07.500
from the
00:34:07.860
plan it
00:34:08.320
won't work.
00:34:09.020
You don't
00:34:09.260
have to do
00:34:09.620
research.
00:34:10.780
You don't
00:34:11.120
have to go
00:34:11.500
too deep
00:34:11.940
on that
00:34:12.280
one.
00:34:13.520
All right.
00:34:16.820
Short
00:34:17.260
update on
00:34:18.660
what I call
00:34:19.200
the causeless
00:34:20.100
anger that
00:34:21.400
people have
00:34:21.840
had against
00:34:22.360
me.
00:34:23.660
Now,
00:34:24.240
I'm not
00:34:25.160
even going
00:34:25.460
to talk
00:34:25.660
about the
00:34:26.100
pandemic
00:34:26.580
stuff.
00:34:27.020
I'm just
00:34:27.260
going to
00:34:27.420
talk about
00:34:27.780
the psychology
00:34:28.680
and people's
00:34:29.680
reaction to
00:34:30.220
me.
00:34:32.500
And I
00:34:33.220
got the
00:34:33.940
best hypothesis
00:34:35.100
about what
00:34:35.740
was behind
00:34:36.240
it.
00:34:37.000
Now,
00:34:37.200
what's really
00:34:37.540
behind it
00:34:38.020
is there's
00:34:38.540
this mass
00:34:39.860
formation
00:34:40.440
psychosis
00:34:41.120
thing.
00:34:42.140
The people
00:34:42.520
are all
00:34:42.920
flipped out
00:34:43.460
and crazy
00:34:43.920
and they're
00:34:44.400
not thinking
00:34:44.880
well.
00:34:46.020
And so
00:34:46.360
because I
00:34:46.880
have non-binary
00:34:47.960
opinions,
00:34:49.280
meaning I
00:34:49.780
don't map
00:34:50.400
to one
00:34:51.180
extreme or
00:34:51.820
the other
00:34:52.160
on pandemic
00:34:53.560
stuff,
00:34:54.660
that a lot
00:34:56.560
of people
00:34:56.840
assume I'm
00:34:57.340
on the
00:34:57.560
other side
00:34:58.120
and then
00:34:59.180
they get
00:34:59.460
mad without
00:35:00.420
knowing
00:35:00.840
anything about
00:35:01.400
my opinions,
00:35:02.340
but they're
00:35:02.920
pretty sure
00:35:03.500
they're mad
00:35:03.940
at me,
00:35:04.260
they just
00:35:04.580
don't know
00:35:04.980
why.
00:35:06.120
And so
00:35:06.340
for the
00:35:06.540
last 24
00:35:07.100
hours I've
00:35:07.620
been asking
00:35:08.040
people,
00:35:08.980
could anybody
00:35:09.480
explain just
00:35:11.460
anything,
00:35:12.400
anything that
00:35:13.880
you disagree
00:35:14.420
with that is
00:35:16.200
making you
00:35:16.680
concerned?
00:35:17.120
And the
00:35:19.100
experiment was
00:35:19.780
fascinating because
00:35:21.120
nobody could.
00:35:22.400
You would think
00:35:23.100
it would just
00:35:23.400
be like a
00:35:23.860
straight sentence.
00:35:24.940
You said
00:35:25.520
X, X is
00:35:27.220
wrong, I
00:35:29.140
hate you.
00:35:30.620
Nobody could
00:35:31.140
do it.
00:35:32.180
It was all
00:35:32.580
stuff like,
00:35:33.980
I guess
00:35:35.540
Brett Weinstein
00:35:36.400
used an
00:35:37.220
Alice in
00:35:37.980
Wonderland
00:35:38.580
quote and
00:35:40.340
just said
00:35:40.800
that my
00:35:41.560
situation was
00:35:42.400
curiouser and
00:35:43.380
curiouser, to
00:35:44.800
which I
00:35:45.120
said, what
00:35:46.680
situation, what
00:35:48.920
topic, what
00:35:51.340
are you talking
00:35:51.800
about?
00:35:53.060
And then
00:35:53.680
somebody else
00:35:54.220
backed him
00:35:54.720
up.
00:35:56.720
Backed him
00:35:57.360
up?
00:35:57.900
I don't even
00:35:58.540
know what the
00:35:58.840
topic is.
00:36:00.040
What are we
00:36:00.560
even talking
00:36:01.020
about?
00:36:01.880
I know people
00:36:02.460
are disappointed,
00:36:03.800
annoyed, turned
00:36:05.340
off, angry, all
00:36:07.800
kinds of
00:36:08.240
emotions, but
00:36:09.520
literally nobody,
00:36:10.640
literally nobody
00:36:13.900
can even tell
00:36:15.560
me what it's
00:36:16.040
about.
00:36:17.300
And then I
00:36:17.680
heard a
00:36:18.400
hypothesis today
00:36:20.720
that I feel
00:36:22.600
like might be
00:36:23.220
the right one.
00:36:24.700
I'm going to
00:36:25.060
run it by you.
00:36:27.100
See if this
00:36:28.080
sounds like why
00:36:28.920
people are mad
00:36:29.840
at me.
00:36:32.180
And this came
00:36:33.000
from Twitter
00:36:34.020
user Metal
00:36:34.920
Balls, who's
00:36:36.260
probably watching
00:36:36.880
right now.
00:36:37.820
Hello, Metal
00:36:38.420
Balls.
00:36:38.860
And this
00:36:41.340
explanation sounded
00:36:42.200
pretty good.
00:36:43.540
She said, it
00:36:44.700
sounds like you
00:36:45.420
are shaming
00:36:45.980
people for
00:36:47.060
something they
00:36:47.700
wouldn't be able
00:36:48.420
to control
00:36:49.120
either way.
00:36:50.500
Ordinary
00:36:51.000
perception versus
00:36:52.020
hallucination.
00:36:53.760
After you
00:36:54.200
intentionally ferret
00:36:55.160
out these
00:36:55.640
reactions, you
00:36:56.880
demean people for
00:36:57.840
having them.
00:36:58.640
It's hard to
00:36:59.620
watch.
00:37:03.000
How does
00:37:03.800
that sound?
00:37:06.640
Does that
00:37:07.420
sound, uh,
00:37:08.860
sound about
00:37:10.760
right?
00:37:14.020
I feel like
00:37:15.320
this, you
00:37:15.780
know, it's
00:37:16.420
not 100% of
00:37:17.280
the story.
00:37:18.300
Some people
00:37:18.800
just disagree
00:37:19.440
on facts.
00:37:20.600
But I
00:37:22.540
feel like
00:37:23.140
this is
00:37:24.320
true.
00:37:25.420
And you've
00:37:26.900
all noticed
00:37:27.420
me blaming
00:37:28.320
my critics of
00:37:29.180
hallucinating,
00:37:29.920
right?
00:37:30.160
You've all
00:37:30.540
seen that?
00:37:31.660
That I
00:37:32.460
continually tell
00:37:34.200
my critics
00:37:35.060
they're
00:37:35.320
hallucinating?
00:37:35.920
Now, here's
00:37:37.640
the problem.
00:37:39.340
It's
00:37:39.900
literally what's
00:37:40.680
happening.
00:37:41.740
When I say
00:37:42.600
somebody's
00:37:43.080
hallucinating,
00:37:43.940
I'm not,
00:37:44.520
that's not
00:37:45.000
hyperbole.
00:37:46.140
I mean
00:37:46.680
actual,
00:37:47.440
literal
00:37:47.660
hallucination.
00:37:49.300
That they
00:37:49.780
have a
00:37:50.740
memory or
00:37:51.480
a belief in
00:37:52.620
something that
00:37:53.180
just doesn't
00:37:53.780
exist in the
00:37:54.500
real world.
00:37:54.940
Now, here's
00:37:56.140
the problem.
00:37:58.460
What should
00:37:59.180
I say when
00:38:00.600
somebody's
00:38:01.160
hallucinating?
00:38:02.180
And it's
00:38:02.480
obvious, and
00:38:04.000
I'm interacting
00:38:05.180
with them, so
00:38:05.860
our opinions of
00:38:07.260
each other are
00:38:07.900
relevant.
00:38:08.780
What should
00:38:09.240
I say?
00:38:11.240
I think
00:38:11.820
the, here's
00:38:12.460
the problem.
00:38:13.640
The problem
00:38:14.160
isn't, I
00:38:14.700
don't think the
00:38:15.240
problem is
00:38:15.660
exactly the
00:38:16.700
way I'm
00:38:17.040
saying it.
00:38:18.560
I think the
00:38:19.420
problem is
00:38:19.880
it's
00:38:20.160
uncomfortable.
00:38:22.380
How would
00:38:23.120
you feel if
00:38:23.860
somebody told
00:38:24.460
you you
00:38:24.900
were
00:38:25.060
hallucinating
00:38:25.820
on something
00:38:26.400
that you
00:38:26.680
were pretty
00:38:27.180
sure you
00:38:27.620
weren't
00:38:27.840
hallucinating
00:38:28.340
about?
00:38:29.240
How would
00:38:29.580
it feel?
00:38:31.140
Like really
00:38:31.900
shitty, wouldn't
00:38:32.520
it?
00:38:33.820
It'd feel
00:38:34.440
really bad.
00:38:35.800
And wouldn't
00:38:36.160
you be mad
00:38:36.780
at the person
00:38:37.320
who called
00:38:38.580
you out for
00:38:39.120
hallucinating in
00:38:40.000
public?
00:38:40.940
Because remember,
00:38:41.780
I do it in
00:38:42.220
public.
00:38:43.460
Wouldn't you
00:38:43.840
be mad?
00:38:46.140
I imagine
00:38:46.920
I would.
00:38:47.960
I imagine
00:38:48.640
I would if
00:38:49.460
somebody said
00:38:49.900
it about me.
00:38:51.040
In fact,
00:38:51.340
people have
00:38:51.740
said it about
00:38:52.140
me.
00:38:52.320
I don't like
00:38:52.740
it at all.
00:38:53.120
Yeah,
00:38:55.080
somebody says
00:38:55.460
the problem
00:38:55.880
is your
00:38:56.200
delivery.
00:38:58.640
Now,
00:38:59.160
keep in
00:38:59.600
mind that
00:39:00.900
because I
00:39:01.420
do this
00:39:01.860
publicly,
00:39:03.680
here's a
00:39:04.560
nuance that
00:39:05.140
maybe not
00:39:05.720
everybody's
00:39:06.160
aware of.
00:39:07.280
Do you
00:39:07.720
know that
00:39:08.080
I'm aware
00:39:08.660
that I
00:39:09.060
annoy people?
00:39:10.620
You know
00:39:11.220
that,
00:39:11.500
right?
00:39:12.280
Do you
00:39:12.600
know that
00:39:12.900
I do it
00:39:13.260
intentionally?
00:39:16.540
How many
00:39:17.120
of you know
00:39:17.460
I do it
00:39:17.840
intentionally?
00:39:18.280
And you
00:39:19.900
know that
00:39:20.280
I could
00:39:20.700
modify my
00:39:21.600
approach,
00:39:22.580
right?
00:39:23.460
It wouldn't
00:39:23.740
be hard.
00:39:24.660
It's not
00:39:25.020
like I'm
00:39:25.400
locked in.
00:39:26.540
If I
00:39:27.080
wanted to
00:39:27.540
just be
00:39:28.080
Mr.
00:39:28.820
Rogers
00:39:29.100
every day,
00:39:30.220
just say
00:39:30.580
everything's
00:39:31.020
fine,
00:39:31.480
everything's
00:39:31.880
good,
00:39:32.660
I could
00:39:33.040
do that.
00:39:33.860
It'd be
00:39:34.160
easy.
00:39:35.140
In fact,
00:39:35.600
I'd do
00:39:35.840
that with
00:39:36.240
Dilbert.
00:39:37.180
For 30
00:39:38.280
some years
00:39:39.040
or whatever,
00:39:40.660
I've published
00:39:41.300
a sarcastic
00:39:42.780
comic every
00:39:43.480
day that
00:39:44.480
doesn't seem
00:39:44.980
to make
00:39:45.280
anybody mad.
00:39:45.960
nobody's
00:39:47.840
mad at
00:39:48.140
that.
00:39:49.260
Because
00:39:49.700
it's easy.
00:39:51.100
It's very
00:39:51.700
easy to
00:39:52.080
be non-provocative.
00:39:55.680
But you
00:39:56.240
know I
00:39:56.500
do it
00:39:56.720
intentionally,
00:39:57.280
right?
00:39:57.640
Do you
00:39:57.900
know why?
00:40:00.140
Do you
00:40:00.660
know why
00:40:01.100
I do it
00:40:01.520
intentionally?
00:40:06.220
Attention?
00:40:07.760
Attention's
00:40:08.140
almost there,
00:40:09.360
but there's
00:40:09.840
like a
00:40:10.160
deeper level
00:40:10.760
of insight.
00:40:14.760
It's the
00:40:15.340
X factor.
00:40:15.960
The reason
00:40:17.980
you watch
00:40:18.420
me is not
00:40:19.460
because you
00:40:19.920
agree with
00:40:20.360
me.
00:40:21.000
If all
00:40:21.520
you did
00:40:21.840
is get
00:40:22.140
on here
00:40:22.460
and agree
00:40:22.860
with me
00:40:23.220
all day
00:40:23.520
long,
00:40:24.240
well,
00:40:24.600
you know,
00:40:24.860
maybe I
00:40:25.180
could have
00:40:25.480
a show
00:40:25.740
like that.
00:40:26.920
But it's
00:40:27.560
not one
00:40:27.880
I'd be
00:40:28.120
interested
00:40:28.460
in.
00:40:29.580
And it's
00:40:32.200
not what
00:40:32.540
I do.
00:40:34.060
So what
00:40:34.480
I do is
00:40:35.440
cause you
00:40:36.200
what I'm
00:40:37.580
trying to
00:40:37.960
do,
00:40:38.460
and I
00:40:38.760
think
00:40:38.960
successfully,
00:40:40.020
unfortunately,
00:40:40.560
for a lot
00:40:40.880
of you,
00:40:41.340
what I'm
00:40:41.760
trying to
00:40:42.120
do is
00:40:42.360
make you
00:40:42.720
uncomfortable
00:40:43.240
with your
00:40:44.600
existing
00:40:45.000
opinion.
00:40:45.420
I'm not
00:40:47.840
trying to
00:40:48.220
make you
00:40:48.740
agree with
00:40:49.820
me.
00:40:50.600
I'm trying
00:40:50.940
to make
00:40:51.240
you
00:40:51.380
uncomfortable.
00:40:52.800
Now,
00:40:53.100
for some
00:40:53.460
people,
00:40:54.400
that discomfort
00:40:55.100
is actually
00:40:55.660
a plus.
00:40:57.200
Like,
00:40:57.520
they like
00:40:58.220
being knocked
00:41:00.260
off their
00:41:00.880
balance point,
00:41:02.760
just to see if
00:41:03.380
they can get
00:41:03.780
back on.
00:41:05.360
Right?
00:41:05.600
And then
00:41:06.260
there are
00:41:06.420
other people
00:41:06.820
who just
00:41:07.260
really don't
00:41:07.900
like that
00:41:08.360
feeling.
00:41:08.960
They like
00:41:09.480
the feeling
00:41:09.880
of just
00:41:10.960
being confident
00:41:11.660
in their
00:41:12.120
opinion and
00:41:13.080
go with it.
00:41:14.300
So I
00:41:14.820
would recommend
00:41:15.600
that if you're
00:41:16.760
one of the
00:41:17.040
people who
00:41:17.480
don't like
00:41:18.200
your existing
00:41:19.260
opinion
00:41:19.640
challenged,
00:41:20.340
this is
00:41:20.660
really the
00:41:21.120
wrong content
00:41:21.940
for you.
00:41:23.340
But if you
00:41:23.980
like to
00:41:24.420
feel challenged
00:41:25.780
and uncomfortable,
00:41:28.020
that's what I'm
00:41:28.980
trying to
00:41:29.460
deliver.
00:41:29.740
So I do
00:41:30.900
give you
00:41:31.280
opinions with
00:41:32.000
attitude.
00:41:33.360
The attitude
00:41:34.000
feels like
00:41:36.240
insulting my
00:41:37.920
base.
00:41:39.280
And I'm
00:41:39.980
aware of that
00:41:40.600
and I do it
00:41:41.160
intentionally.
00:41:43.160
For effect.
00:41:45.040
Because if
00:41:45.740
you're insulted,
00:41:46.540
you're going to
00:41:46.840
pay attention
00:41:47.360
and you're
00:41:47.820
going to
00:41:47.980
fight back.
00:41:49.220
And that's
00:41:49.600
what I want.
00:41:50.560
I want you
00:41:51.040
to fight back.
00:41:52.000
Because it's
00:41:52.540
the fighting
00:41:52.940
back that gets
00:41:53.660
you to wrestle
00:41:55.000
with your own
00:41:55.620
opinion as well
00:41:56.380
as mine.
00:41:57.280
By the way,
00:41:57.720
one of the
00:41:58.080
best advices
00:41:59.440
pieces of
00:42:01.120
advice you'll
00:42:01.700
ever hear,
00:42:02.460
is if you
00:42:03.380
want to
00:42:03.780
clarify your
00:42:04.540
opinion,
00:42:05.000
write it
00:42:05.320
down to
00:42:06.500
show to
00:42:07.080
somebody else.
00:42:08.180
You will
00:42:08.820
be amazed
00:42:09.520
how often
00:42:10.760
your opinion
00:42:11.300
can't be
00:42:11.840
written down.
00:42:13.440
And the
00:42:14.040
reason is
00:42:14.440
because it
00:42:14.740
doesn't make
00:42:15.160
sense.
00:42:16.260
I learned
00:42:16.860
this when I
00:42:17.440
was writing
00:42:17.800
business cases
00:42:18.660
for a big
00:42:19.280
corporation.
00:42:20.460
So it would
00:42:20.780
be my job
00:42:21.420
to take
00:42:21.820
the leadership's
00:42:23.220
argument that
00:42:24.680
we should do
00:42:25.220
X or Y
00:42:25.820
and boil it
00:42:27.980
down to a
00:42:28.440
summary.
00:42:29.440
So it
00:42:29.820
could be
00:42:30.120
spread to
00:42:30.800
other people.
00:42:32.200
And sometimes
00:42:32.960
when I would
00:42:33.960
go to write
00:42:34.580
down the
00:42:35.400
leadership's
00:42:36.140
opinion,
00:42:36.960
it couldn't
00:42:37.440
be done.
00:42:38.740
It couldn't
00:42:39.320
be written
00:42:39.700
because it
00:42:40.700
didn't make
00:42:41.000
sense.
00:42:41.680
But you
00:42:42.000
didn't really
00:42:42.360
realize it
00:42:42.900
until you
00:42:43.180
had it on
00:42:43.540
paper.
00:42:44.120
You're like,
00:42:44.420
wait a minute.
00:42:45.620
Now that I'm
00:42:46.100
looking at it
00:42:46.540
on paper,
00:42:48.180
this doesn't
00:42:48.660
even make
00:42:48.980
sense.
00:42:50.240
And actually
00:42:51.040
some projects
00:42:51.720
you just have
00:42:52.200
to stop.
00:42:53.340
You're like,
00:42:53.660
I don't know.
00:42:54.780
I don't have
00:42:55.180
an argument.
00:42:56.000
This doesn't
00:42:56.400
even make
00:42:56.720
sense.
00:42:57.920
So what
00:42:58.660
you'll find
00:42:59.080
is that the
00:42:59.680
process of
00:43:00.380
making you
00:43:01.180
reply to
00:43:01.840
me, which
00:43:03.100
is what
00:43:03.440
getting you
00:43:03.880
angry does,
00:43:04.920
those of you
00:43:05.440
who don't
00:43:05.780
just sign
00:43:06.580
off, but
00:43:07.560
those of you
00:43:08.040
who get
00:43:08.260
angry and
00:43:08.840
feel like
00:43:09.220
you have
00:43:09.520
to reply
00:43:11.100
are now
00:43:12.720
forced to
00:43:13.320
put your
00:43:13.620
opinion in
00:43:14.180
a tweet.
00:43:16.020
And for
00:43:16.260
some of
00:43:16.740
you, but
00:43:17.200
not all
00:43:17.580
of you,
00:43:18.700
the process
00:43:19.520
of writing
00:43:20.080
down your
00:43:20.500
opinion and
00:43:21.020
looking at
00:43:21.520
it probably
00:43:23.140
has an
00:43:23.760
effect on
00:43:24.260
you, as
00:43:25.620
in, oh,
00:43:26.500
I just
00:43:26.760
wrote down
00:43:27.100
my opinion
00:43:27.580
and that
00:43:28.660
doesn't look
00:43:29.060
so convincing
00:43:29.640
at all.
00:43:32.220
So, here's
00:43:33.640
what you need
00:43:34.100
to know.
00:43:35.540
I don't
00:43:36.300
dislike you.
00:43:38.280
That's not
00:43:38.920
why I do
00:43:39.340
any of this.
00:43:40.980
I actually
00:43:41.720
love my
00:43:42.200
audience.
00:43:43.720
I don't
00:43:44.240
know if that
00:43:44.580
ever comes
00:43:45.060
through, but
00:43:46.000
part of the
00:43:46.560
reason that I
00:43:47.140
spend so much
00:43:47.840
time doing
00:43:48.320
this is that
00:43:49.580
I get a
00:43:50.180
genuine joy
00:43:51.160
from the
00:43:52.580
interaction.
00:43:53.060
it's not
00:43:54.180
just about
00:43:55.200
attention, it's
00:43:55.940
about the
00:43:56.260
interaction.
00:43:57.280
I like
00:43:57.660
attention, there's
00:43:58.600
no doubt about
00:43:59.100
that, but it's
00:44:00.280
not about all
00:44:00.820
that.
00:44:02.180
So, should I
00:44:03.900
challenge you by
00:44:04.760
saying that you're
00:44:05.500
hallucinating, just
00:44:06.760
know this, it's
00:44:08.360
not personal, it's
00:44:10.080
never personal, and
00:44:11.840
if it's personal, it's
00:44:12.760
because I want to
00:44:13.240
help you, it's
00:44:14.700
because I want you
00:44:15.360
to, you know,
00:44:16.980
wrestle with your
00:44:17.620
own opinion, maybe
00:44:19.340
you can improve
00:44:19.920
it.
00:44:20.880
Do I imagine
00:44:21.900
that all of my
00:44:22.640
opinions are
00:44:23.240
correct, and my
00:44:24.940
critics are
00:44:25.580
wrong?
00:44:25.980
Do you think I
00:44:26.520
think that?
00:44:28.280
You've watched
00:44:28.960
me, you know, talk
00:44:30.040
with my
00:44:30.620
characteristic
00:44:31.820
overconfidence,
00:44:33.380
and I've told you
00:44:34.620
directly that I
00:44:35.480
project more
00:44:37.880
confidence than I
00:44:39.240
have, intentionally,
00:44:41.360
because it's good
00:44:42.560
technique.
00:44:44.380
No, I don't think
00:44:45.340
I'm right all the
00:44:45.940
time.
00:44:48.360
I'm not even close
00:44:49.360
to that.
00:44:49.660
In fact, my
00:44:50.580
entire thesis is
00:44:51.800
that the people
00:44:52.400
who think they're
00:44:53.120
right can't tell.
00:44:54.680
Why would I be
00:44:55.320
different?
00:44:56.580
But what we can
00:44:58.600
do is bash ideas
00:45:00.260
against each other
00:45:01.120
until, you know, we
00:45:02.220
all get smarter.
00:45:03.480
I think that's
00:45:04.300
happening.
00:45:05.760
And I'll say it
00:45:06.880
again, I believe
00:45:07.600
that my audience
00:45:08.360
for these live
00:45:09.060
streams, not so
00:45:10.720
much for the
00:45:11.280
Twitter stuff,
00:45:12.020
because that's
00:45:13.440
quick takes and
00:45:14.420
just making people
00:45:15.700
angry usually, but
00:45:16.800
for the longer
00:45:17.360
form stuff, I
00:45:19.420
will say with
00:45:20.240
great confidence,
00:45:22.220
my characteristic
00:45:23.320
overconfidence,
00:45:24.800
that this is the
00:45:26.620
most well-informed
00:45:28.280
audience in
00:45:30.360
America.
00:45:31.520
That's what I
00:45:32.000
think.
00:45:32.980
What do you
00:45:33.600
think?
00:45:34.360
I think you're
00:45:34.940
the most well-informed
00:45:36.100
audience in terms
00:45:37.560
of how to think
00:45:38.200
about stuff, not
00:45:39.280
just the data, but
00:45:40.880
how to grasp,
00:45:43.680
grapple with it,
00:45:44.500
how to wrestle
00:45:46.240
with it.
00:45:47.160
That's what I
00:45:47.800
think.
00:45:49.500
So anyway, metal
00:45:50.680
balls, good
00:45:51.600
input.
00:45:52.680
I think that is
00:45:53.620
what's happening.
00:45:54.160
I think the word
00:45:54.660
hallucination is
00:45:56.220
real triggering, but
00:45:57.920
I'm not going to
00:45:58.600
stop doing it,
00:46:00.060
because I would
00:46:01.140
prefer your anger
00:46:02.320
over your
00:46:03.980
disinterest, if I
00:46:08.000
may be honest.
00:46:10.960
And I think the
00:46:11.820
real problem is
00:46:12.380
that the problem
00:46:13.700
is that the
00:46:14.200
truth is shocking.
00:46:15.020
The truth is
00:46:16.260
that we
00:46:17.260
hallucinate so
00:46:18.220
easily, all of
00:46:19.080
us, me
00:46:20.240
included, we
00:46:21.260
hallucinate so
00:46:22.060
easily that
00:46:23.780
facing that
00:46:24.920
reality is really
00:46:25.740
painful.
00:46:27.440
And I sort of
00:46:28.300
make people face
00:46:29.100
reality that they
00:46:30.240
literally imagine
00:46:31.200
something about me.
00:46:36.360
Dooley says,
00:46:37.340
Adams was mind
00:46:38.300
reading when he
00:46:39.100
said Rob was
00:46:39.820
having fun killing
00:46:40.800
Big Laden, and
00:46:42.260
owes an apology.
00:46:43.080
Well, if that
00:46:46.480
had been serious
00:46:47.600
and also wrong, I
00:46:50.860
would apologize.
00:46:52.440
But my mind
00:46:53.980
reading of what it
00:46:54.860
would feel like to
00:46:55.740
shoot Bin Laden
00:46:56.520
multiple times, you
00:46:58.940
have to, you
00:46:59.520
should assume that
00:47:00.200
that was how I
00:47:01.400
would have felt in
00:47:02.080
the situation.
00:47:04.040
Don't assume that
00:47:05.080
that's mind
00:47:05.740
reading.
00:47:06.820
That's more just
00:47:07.560
talking.
00:47:07.960
Craig says,
00:47:12.840
you used to be
00:47:13.300
entertaining, and
00:47:14.760
then you stopped.
00:47:15.820
That's disappointing,
00:47:16.840
not angriving.
00:47:17.860
Well, I think what
00:47:18.640
you're seeing is that
00:47:19.520
when you take Trump
00:47:20.660
out of the headlines,
00:47:22.340
that the news
00:47:23.660
becomes less
00:47:24.320
entertaining.
00:47:25.840
I would imagine
00:47:26.800
that I'm about the
00:47:27.900
same, but the news
00:47:29.040
itself is just way
00:47:30.020
that.
00:47:30.280
Have you seen the
00:47:31.080
ratings for the
00:47:31.840
news?
00:47:33.260
The news itself,
00:47:34.400
the ratings are
00:47:35.040
through the floor.
00:47:36.260
Just through the
00:47:39.000
floor.
00:47:40.340
So, yeah, the
00:47:41.520
entertainment value
00:47:43.440
of the news just
00:47:44.320
dropped when
00:47:45.100
Twitter was out of
00:47:46.220
it.
00:47:46.600
All right, well,
00:47:46.820
let's get to
00:47:47.320
something interesting.
00:47:49.400
I would like to
00:47:50.300
give you one point
00:47:51.560
to consider about
00:47:53.580
Dr. Malone, and
00:47:55.580
then we'll be done
00:47:56.300
with him, okay?
00:47:58.200
My understanding,
00:47:59.320
and I'll take a
00:47:59.880
fact check on this,
00:48:01.020
Andre Speckhouse
00:48:01.980
says this about
00:48:05.260
Dr. Malone's
00:48:06.680
appearance on
00:48:07.340
Joe Rogan, that
00:48:08.920
apparently Dr.
00:48:10.680
Malone claimed
00:48:11.440
that ivermectin
00:48:12.940
and some secret
00:48:14.700
unknown early
00:48:15.860
treatment package
00:48:16.760
that included
00:48:17.860
ivermectin,
00:48:18.640
presumably,
00:48:19.840
totally crushed
00:48:21.040
COVID in
00:48:22.720
Uttar Pradesh,
00:48:24.240
a state in
00:48:25.060
India.
00:48:26.000
How many of you
00:48:26.800
have heard that,
00:48:27.900
either from Dr.
00:48:29.040
Malone or not?
00:48:31.380
Now, oh, don't
00:48:32.480
get ahead of me.
00:48:33.360
Don't get ahead of
00:48:33.840
me.
00:48:34.200
Some of you
00:48:34.740
are questioning
00:48:35.280
whether Andres
00:48:36.340
Backhouse is a
00:48:37.380
good source.
00:48:38.440
You don't have
00:48:39.020
to for this.
00:48:40.700
You don't have
00:48:41.280
to.
00:48:42.140
I'm not going to
00:48:42.880
tell you he's a
00:48:43.360
good source or a
00:48:43.940
bad source.
00:48:44.400
That's irrelevant.
00:48:45.740
Here's all I'm
00:48:46.320
going to ask of
00:48:46.860
you.
00:48:48.140
Let us put our
00:48:49.300
disagreement, if we
00:48:50.280
have any, about
00:48:51.640
Dr. Malone into
00:48:53.460
this one question.
00:48:55.320
First, fact
00:48:56.360
check it.
00:48:58.040
So we'll start by
00:48:59.000
fact checking it
00:48:59.740
because we don't
00:49:00.240
want to make a
00:49:01.000
judgment on
00:49:01.400
something you
00:49:01.800
didn't say.
00:49:03.940
Now, would
00:49:07.080
you, is it
00:49:08.040
a, is it
00:49:09.920
fair to say
00:49:10.640
that Dr.
00:49:12.000
Malone said
00:49:12.780
that ivermectin
00:49:13.700
was a major
00:49:16.540
cause of
00:49:17.660
utter product
00:49:18.460
crushing their
00:49:19.600
COVID?
00:49:22.160
Is that, it's,
00:49:24.520
did he say it?
00:49:25.660
I'm saying, lots
00:49:26.380
of people say he
00:49:26.940
didn't say it.
00:49:27.860
Interesting.
00:49:28.260
A bunch of
00:49:29.760
yeses and a
00:49:30.320
bunch of no's.
00:49:31.600
So the ones who
00:49:32.220
say he didn't
00:49:33.460
say it, did he
00:49:36.260
say something on
00:49:36.960
this topic?
00:49:39.200
How do we not
00:49:39.980
even know that?
00:49:42.440
So a lot of
00:49:43.160
people are saying
00:49:43.720
he said it.
00:49:45.260
But let's deal
00:49:46.200
with that.
00:49:47.000
Okay.
00:49:49.240
He said he did
00:49:50.260
not know why.
00:49:51.880
Okay.
00:49:52.860
But did he say
00:49:53.580
that they used
00:49:54.200
early treatment
00:49:55.160
package that may
00:49:57.460
have included
00:49:58.120
ivermectin?
00:50:01.980
All right.
00:50:02.560
Well, I want to
00:50:03.100
give you a little
00:50:03.700
bit of insight as
00:50:04.980
to why it might
00:50:07.160
be that it
00:50:10.540
seemed like the
00:50:11.660
COVID deaths
00:50:12.480
went to zero
00:50:14.040
in utter, or
00:50:15.460
went really low
00:50:16.340
in utter
00:50:17.320
product.
00:50:18.600
Here's a little
00:50:19.340
background information
00:50:20.500
that, and here's
00:50:22.880
what I suggest.
00:50:23.860
Find out for sure
00:50:24.960
what Dr.
00:50:25.560
Malone said about
00:50:26.220
that.
00:50:27.460
All right.
00:50:28.500
So whatever you
00:50:29.980
think he said
00:50:30.560
about that, just
00:50:31.200
find out for sure.
00:50:32.520
And if you think
00:50:33.140
that he said
00:50:33.620
ivermectin or
00:50:34.720
some early
00:50:35.300
treatment worked
00:50:36.720
in utter
00:50:37.100
product, it
00:50:37.640
doesn't matter
00:50:38.160
if it was
00:50:38.500
ivermectin for
00:50:39.340
this next point.
00:50:40.940
Simply ask
00:50:42.020
yourself this.
00:50:43.460
Just Google a
00:50:44.700
fact check.
00:50:46.200
Google
00:50:46.600
Uttar
00:50:47.840
Pradesh,
00:50:49.500
U-T-T-A-R,
00:50:51.380
P-R-A-D-E-S-H,
00:50:53.040
and then
00:50:54.560
COVID and
00:50:56.960
then fact
00:50:57.880
check.
00:50:59.200
Just Google
00:51:00.040
those things.
00:51:01.360
Now, did I
00:51:02.000
just tell you
00:51:02.660
that the
00:51:03.020
fact checkers
00:51:03.740
are always
00:51:04.180
right, and
00:51:05.720
the expert
00:51:06.340
doctor who's
00:51:07.220
one of the
00:51:08.720
top in his
00:51:09.260
field is
00:51:10.120
wrong?
00:51:11.380
Nope.
00:51:12.460
Nope.
00:51:15.500
He said
00:51:16.360
unknown protocol.
00:51:17.700
All right.
00:51:17.920
So let's
00:51:18.360
take, let's
00:51:19.460
take, can
00:51:21.400
we agree
00:51:21.800
with that?
00:51:22.480
Can we
00:51:22.760
agree, does
00:51:23.460
everybody agree
00:51:24.100
that Dr.
00:51:25.400
Malone referred
00:51:26.100
to an unknown
00:51:27.140
protocol that
00:51:28.780
crushed COVID
00:51:29.880
in Uttar
00:51:30.660
Pradesh?
00:51:31.900
Would
00:51:32.300
everybody agree
00:51:32.820
with that?
00:51:36.480
I think maybe
00:51:37.500
the confusion
00:51:38.100
is he may
00:51:38.780
have mentioned
00:51:39.300
ivermectin and
00:51:40.480
then also
00:51:40.920
mentioned that,
00:51:41.560
so maybe they
00:51:41.980
got conflated.
00:51:43.840
All right.
00:51:44.100
So it doesn't
00:51:44.600
matter for my
00:51:45.940
purposes, it
00:51:46.640
doesn't matter
00:51:47.080
what drugs
00:51:47.620
they used,
00:51:48.180
okay?
00:51:49.160
So the claim
00:51:50.620
is that there
00:51:51.680
was early
00:51:52.220
treatment and
00:51:54.320
that that could
00:51:55.020
be related to
00:51:56.200
crushing the
00:51:57.120
COVID.
00:51:58.820
Am I okay
00:51:59.700
so far?
00:52:01.540
All right.
00:52:01.840
I want to make
00:52:02.580
sure that my
00:52:03.060
claim is
00:52:03.660
compatible with
00:52:04.680
what he actually
00:52:05.520
said and I'm
00:52:06.180
not paraphrasing.
00:52:07.640
So I think I'm
00:52:08.400
on, there was an
00:52:09.440
early treatment
00:52:10.040
protocol, we
00:52:11.240
don't know the
00:52:11.760
details, but
00:52:13.000
that his claim
00:52:14.040
was apparently
00:52:14.900
it worked.
00:52:17.620
Right?
00:52:18.560
Okay, I think
00:52:19.240
we're on the
00:52:19.520
same page now.
00:52:20.780
So we'll take
00:52:21.460
the ivermectin
00:52:22.120
out of the
00:52:22.380
story because
00:52:22.760
it wasn't
00:52:23.120
important for
00:52:23.620
the point I'm
00:52:24.100
going to make,
00:52:24.920
just that there
00:52:25.420
was an early
00:52:25.900
treatment.
00:52:27.320
Here's another
00:52:28.020
fact about that
00:52:28.840
same state.
00:52:30.500
Apparently there
00:52:31.120
were many regions
00:52:31.900
within that state
00:52:32.680
who had zero
00:52:33.440
deaths during the
00:52:35.200
same time.
00:52:36.940
Not zero deaths
00:52:38.040
from COVID, but
00:52:40.060
zero deaths.
00:52:40.820
So during the
00:52:42.260
time that they
00:52:42.800
were taking
00:52:43.220
the unknown
00:52:45.260
early treatment
00:52:46.220
protocol, they
00:52:47.920
also had zero
00:52:48.840
car accidents and
00:52:51.320
zero suicides.
00:52:54.140
They didn't have
00:52:55.080
any cancer, no
00:52:57.460
murders.
00:52:58.920
Now these were
00:52:59.540
areas that
00:53:00.240
typically would
00:53:00.860
have all of
00:53:01.380
these things and
00:53:02.520
lots of them.
00:53:04.120
But for the
00:53:04.920
exact same time
00:53:06.080
that this early
00:53:06.860
protocol was
00:53:08.680
eliminating deaths
00:53:10.400
from COVID, it
00:53:11.860
also eliminated
00:53:13.180
deaths from all
00:53:14.340
other causes.
00:53:15.700
Now that's a
00:53:16.600
good protocol.
00:53:18.420
That is a good
00:53:19.240
protocol.
00:53:20.360
Because, you
00:53:20.780
know, I'd be
00:53:21.720
happy if the
00:53:22.600
early treatment
00:53:23.180
protocol just,
00:53:24.540
just fixed
00:53:26.820
COVID.
00:53:28.900
But apparently
00:53:29.540
based on the
00:53:30.180
data end of
00:53:31.000
Uttar Pradesh,
00:53:33.000
it can also
00:53:33.800
stop car
00:53:34.540
accidents,
00:53:35.080
homicides,
00:53:36.080
suicides, and
00:53:37.500
every form of
00:53:38.520
medical,
00:53:39.300
morbidity.
00:53:42.080
That's pretty
00:53:42.860
good.
00:53:44.700
So I think
00:53:45.540
not only is
00:53:47.680
Dr. Malone
00:53:48.680
right,
00:53:50.900
he's more
00:53:52.240
right than
00:53:52.660
anything I've
00:53:53.220
ever seen.
00:53:54.280
I've never even
00:53:55.020
heard of an
00:53:55.540
early treatment
00:53:56.120
protocol that
00:53:56.900
could stop
00:53:57.400
car accidents.
00:53:59.380
But that's
00:53:59.740
pretty good.
00:54:00.220
So what do
00:54:06.160
you think
00:54:06.420
happened here?
00:54:08.100
Could it
00:54:08.520
be that
00:54:10.380
India has a
00:54:11.160
data problem?
00:54:12.760
Could it
00:54:13.540
be that
00:54:14.840
those areas
00:54:15.500
that for
00:54:16.000
months reported
00:54:17.000
zero deaths
00:54:17.820
of any kind,
00:54:19.600
maybe that
00:54:20.360
might be behind
00:54:21.280
why we think
00:54:22.320
that the
00:54:23.140
early treatment
00:54:24.480
was so good?
00:54:25.500
So here's
00:54:26.100
my point.
00:54:26.700
if you look
00:54:27.520
at the
00:54:27.880
fact checks
00:54:28.700
and compare
00:54:29.700
it to the
00:54:30.280
claim,
00:54:31.040
I don't
00:54:31.640
believe that
00:54:32.140
you will walk
00:54:32.680
away from
00:54:33.060
this thinking
00:54:33.740
that the
00:54:34.260
claim is
00:54:34.760
stronger than
00:54:35.280
the fact
00:54:35.660
checks.
00:54:36.540
Now I'm
00:54:37.260
not going to
00:54:37.680
tell you it's
00:54:38.420
true.
00:54:39.160
I want you
00:54:39.740
to do it.
00:54:40.800
And I would
00:54:41.360
like you not
00:54:42.060
to have any
00:54:43.200
conversation with
00:54:44.160
me about
00:54:44.620
Dr. Malone,
00:54:45.640
period,
00:54:46.660
until you've
00:54:47.260
done this one
00:54:47.880
thing.
00:54:49.780
Can we agree?
00:54:50.600
And if it
00:54:52.040
turns out
00:54:52.520
that on
00:54:53.260
that one
00:54:53.680
point there
00:54:55.540
was an
00:54:56.120
early protocol
00:54:57.360
treatment that
00:54:58.600
really worked
00:54:59.360
in this
00:54:59.820
Uttar Pradesh
00:55:00.580
region,
00:55:01.640
then I would
00:55:02.180
say that
00:55:02.740
Dr. Malone's
00:55:03.840
supporters are
00:55:04.640
right.
00:55:06.320
I would say
00:55:06.780
that they're
00:55:07.200
right.
00:55:07.880
Now Mike
00:55:08.300
says I'm
00:55:08.760
misreading this.
00:55:10.020
Say more,
00:55:10.580
Mike,
00:55:11.380
because you
00:55:11.760
could be
00:55:12.040
right.
00:55:13.360
I would
00:55:13.980
like to
00:55:14.300
pause now
00:55:14.920
so that
00:55:15.760
you can
00:55:16.020
all notice
00:55:16.660
me being
00:55:17.840
less confident.
00:55:19.680
You don't
00:55:20.360
see it a
00:55:20.760
lot.
00:55:21.820
You can
00:55:22.440
notice me
00:55:23.040
saying I
00:55:23.880
could be
00:55:24.220
wrong.
00:55:25.700
Because when
00:55:26.460
people are
00:55:26.840
saying you're
00:55:27.240
misinterpreting
00:55:27.940
it, I
00:55:28.340
take that
00:55:28.700
very seriously.
00:55:29.980
Because everybody
00:55:30.820
misinterprets
00:55:31.520
everything.
00:55:32.900
So somebody
00:55:33.500
says watch
00:55:33.960
the interview.
00:55:35.280
Why is it
00:55:36.020
that you
00:55:36.260
can't answer
00:55:36.780
that question
00:55:37.380
but you
00:55:37.880
think that
00:55:38.340
if I
00:55:38.720
watched it
00:55:39.220
I could?
00:55:40.660
What makes
00:55:41.180
you think
00:55:41.520
that?
00:55:42.880
If all
00:55:43.960
of you
00:55:44.200
collectively
00:55:44.740
who watch
00:55:45.360
the interview
00:55:45.920
can't tell
00:55:47.160
me this
00:55:47.560
simple
00:55:47.940
statement,
00:55:49.540
did Dr.
00:55:50.100
Malone say
00:55:51.340
that he
00:55:52.020
believes an
00:55:52.680
early treatment
00:55:53.380
protocol
00:55:54.080
substantially
00:55:55.960
lowered the
00:55:57.020
COVID problems
00:55:58.040
in that
00:55:58.520
state?
00:55:59.500
That's a
00:56:00.100
pretty specific
00:56:01.000
claim.
00:56:02.040
You can't
00:56:02.540
tell me if
00:56:02.960
that happened
00:56:03.420
on the
00:56:03.680
video?
00:56:05.320
Some people
00:56:05.800
say you
00:56:06.160
did but
00:56:06.580
others
00:56:06.920
agree with
00:56:07.960
Mike that
00:56:08.340
I'm
00:56:08.520
misinterpreting.
00:56:11.080
Can you
00:56:11.680
give me
00:56:12.060
just a
00:56:12.600
little bit
00:56:12.920
I think
00:56:13.300
you might
00:56:13.600
be right
00:56:14.160
by the
00:56:14.520
way.
00:56:15.060
Can you
00:56:15.300
give me
00:56:15.540
just a
00:56:15.900
little bit
00:56:16.200
more
00:56:16.560
whoever
00:56:18.700
said I
00:56:19.140
misinterpreted?
00:56:21.720
Why is it
00:56:22.380
a big deal?
00:56:22.820
It's a big
00:56:23.180
deal because
00:56:23.560
there's one
00:56:23.960
thing we
00:56:24.360
can check
00:56:24.940
with enough
00:56:26.200
confidence
00:56:26.760
that we
00:56:27.640
could say
00:56:28.040
is the
00:56:28.420
doctor giving
00:56:28.980
us accurate
00:56:29.620
or inaccurate
00:56:30.260
information?
00:56:31.640
Oh,
00:56:31.780
if somebody
00:56:32.000
says Dr.
00:56:32.620
McCullough
00:56:33.080
did,
00:56:33.700
all right,
00:56:34.980
but that's
00:56:35.580
different.
00:56:36.040
but nobody
00:56:42.400
can give
00:56:42.860
me a
00:56:43.480
reason why
00:56:44.080
I'm
00:56:44.200
misinterpreting
00:56:44.800
it.
00:56:45.620
He
00:56:45.980
disclaims
00:56:46.780
like you
00:56:47.320
countries
00:56:47.780
are not
00:56:48.220
comparable.
00:56:48.820
That is
00:56:49.060
correct.
00:56:51.800
I've
00:56:52.280
watched most
00:56:52.800
of it,
00:56:54.240
but if,
00:56:55.500
let me,
00:56:56.600
I have to
00:56:57.140
push back
00:56:57.580
on something.
00:56:59.640
If you
00:57:00.300
think that
00:57:00.740
my watching
00:57:01.380
it is
00:57:02.640
going to
00:57:02.920
help as
00:57:03.300
much as
00:57:03.720
you think,
00:57:04.680
I think
00:57:05.200
you're
00:57:05.380
wrong.
00:57:06.540
Because we
00:57:07.100
just watched,
00:57:07.700
all of you
00:57:08.120
watched it,
00:57:08.600
and you
00:57:08.760
can't even
00:57:09.080
agree what
00:57:09.540
you saw.
00:57:11.460
I mean,
00:57:11.740
you're seeing
00:57:12.040
that in
00:57:12.300
real time,
00:57:12.780
right?
00:57:13.000
You all
00:57:13.340
watched it,
00:57:14.100
and you
00:57:14.320
don't even
00:57:14.640
know what
00:57:14.860
you saw.
00:57:15.300
You're not
00:57:15.520
even agreeing
00:57:15.980
on whether
00:57:16.540
he said
00:57:17.000
that fact
00:57:18.380
or not.
00:57:19.980
Now,
00:57:20.400
I know
00:57:20.600
that the
00:57:21.020
third
00:57:21.500
hypothesis
00:57:22.080
is that
00:57:22.820
the
00:57:23.020
ivermectin
00:57:23.720
knocked
00:57:24.880
down some
00:57:25.360
worms that
00:57:26.360
people would
00:57:26.840
have,
00:57:27.180
and that
00:57:27.380
would allow
00:57:27.860
their own
00:57:28.640
body to
00:57:29.200
recover better.
00:57:30.600
So there
00:57:30.980
could be
00:57:31.260
some of
00:57:31.500
that in
00:57:31.720
the numbers
00:57:32.120
too.
00:57:32.340
The
00:57:36.280
from
00:57:36.600
COVID part
00:57:37.540
was
00:57:37.780
implied.
00:57:46.580
Scott is
00:57:47.220
implying what
00:57:47.960
Malone said
00:57:48.680
and arguing
00:57:49.360
with what he
00:57:50.120
didn't say.
00:57:50.600
Well,
00:57:50.880
that's what
00:57:51.160
I'm trying
00:57:51.400
to avoid.
00:57:52.920
But wouldn't
00:57:53.420
it be easy
00:57:53.960
for you to
00:57:55.080
tell me
00:57:55.500
Dr. Malone
00:57:56.880
either said
00:57:57.720
early treatment
00:57:58.980
worked in
00:58:00.420
Utter Pradesh
00:58:01.160
or he said
00:58:02.280
it might
00:58:02.660
have.
00:58:04.480
You can't
00:58:05.220
tell me
00:58:05.480
that?
00:58:06.220
You all
00:58:06.620
watched it.
00:58:07.700
You all
00:58:08.080
think that
00:58:08.440
if I
00:58:08.720
watched it
00:58:09.100
I could
00:58:09.380
get that
00:58:09.800
answer.
00:58:10.460
But why
00:58:10.840
couldn't
00:58:11.060
you get
00:58:11.380
that answer?
00:58:12.400
You
00:58:12.620
watched it.
00:58:13.140
All right,
00:58:19.380
Paul,
00:58:19.800
I'm just
00:58:20.360
going to
00:58:20.780
get rid
00:58:21.700
of you
00:58:21.880
for being
00:58:22.200
an asshole.
00:58:24.240
Like,
00:58:24.640
we all
00:58:25.200
get that
00:58:26.140
I said
00:58:26.480
I'd
00:58:26.640
watch it.
00:58:27.240
I've
00:58:27.400
watched
00:58:27.600
some of
00:58:27.980
it.
00:58:28.260
I
00:58:28.340
haven't.
00:58:28.980
So if
00:58:29.540
that's
00:58:29.780
all you
00:58:30.020
can
00:58:30.200
hammer
00:58:30.440
on,
00:58:31.360
you're
00:58:31.600
not
00:58:31.780
really
00:58:32.000
doing
00:58:32.260
anything
00:58:32.520
useful
00:58:32.840
here.
00:58:33.460
So
00:58:33.600
just
00:58:33.780
go
00:58:33.960
away.
00:58:37.520
He
00:58:37.960
said
00:58:38.180
the
00:58:38.300
U.S.
00:58:38.600
got
00:58:38.760
involved,
00:58:39.380
didn't
00:58:39.540
know
00:58:39.740
why.
00:58:40.280
Malone
00:58:49.020
said
00:58:49.520
Biden
00:58:49.920
met
00:58:50.180
with
00:58:50.400
Modi
00:58:50.680
and
00:58:50.980
the
00:58:51.200
utter
00:58:51.440
Pradesh
00:58:51.880
info
00:58:52.280
was
00:58:52.600
suppressed.
00:58:54.640
So he
00:58:56.720
was
00:58:56.900
suggesting
00:58:57.380
that there
00:58:57.860
might be
00:58:58.340
a conspiracy
00:58:58.980
but he
00:58:59.480
wasn't
00:58:59.780
committing
00:59:00.200
to it,
00:59:00.580
right?
00:59:02.540
All
00:59:02.860
right.
00:59:04.340
Let's
00:59:04.900
talk more
00:59:05.340
about
00:59:05.620
parasitic
00:59:06.380
worms.
00:59:07.140
Yes.
00:59:08.640
He
00:59:08.780
specifically
00:59:09.980
said he
00:59:10.460
doesn't
00:59:10.780
know
00:59:10.900
the
00:59:11.040
protocol
00:59:11.400
which
00:59:11.780
doesn't
00:59:12.180
matter
00:59:12.440
to me,
00:59:12.960
right?
00:59:13.780
It didn't
00:59:14.540
matter to
00:59:14.900
my point.
00:59:18.140
All
00:59:18.620
right.
00:59:18.840
I'm
00:59:19.120
going to
00:59:19.440
end the
00:59:20.120
Dr.
00:59:20.520
Malone
00:59:20.820
conversation
00:59:21.780
by saying
00:59:22.540
if you
00:59:24.260
check that
00:59:24.780
one claim
00:59:25.460
and you
00:59:26.380
believe that
00:59:26.820
he got
00:59:27.120
that right,
00:59:28.040
then I
00:59:28.820
won't have
00:59:29.340
any more
00:59:29.740
problems
00:59:30.180
with Dr.
00:59:30.880
Malone.
00:59:34.140
Agree?
00:59:34.580
If he
00:59:36.500
got this
00:59:36.940
one claim
00:59:37.600
right,
00:59:38.120
whatever he
00:59:38.560
claimed,
00:59:40.540
and I
00:59:41.040
will go
00:59:41.400
watch it
00:59:41.700
by the
00:59:41.880
way,
00:59:42.340
but whatever
00:59:42.800
he claimed,
00:59:43.420
if he
00:59:43.640
got it
00:59:43.920
right,
00:59:44.800
then I
00:59:45.220
will agree
00:59:45.720
with you
00:59:46.100
that Dr.
00:59:46.920
Malone is
00:59:47.380
an expert
00:59:47.840
and he
00:59:49.000
should be
00:59:49.300
listened to.
00:59:50.300
But would
00:59:50.720
you agree
00:59:51.120
with me
00:59:51.640
that if
00:59:53.140
this claim
00:59:53.680
was wildly
00:59:54.380
off base,
00:59:56.000
then maybe
00:59:56.880
you should
00:59:57.260
question some
00:59:57.920
of the other
00:59:58.280
things he
00:59:58.660
said?
00:59:59.060
Fair enough?
01:00:00.460
Let's just
01:00:01.020
put it all
01:00:01.420
in this one
01:00:01.860
question and
01:00:02.580
walk away and
01:00:03.660
then we
01:00:03.820
don't have
01:00:04.080
to talk
01:00:04.360
about it.
01:00:05.380
And the
01:00:05.680
claim was
01:00:06.160
that Uttar
01:00:06.660
Pradesh
01:00:07.160
defeated its
01:00:09.340
COVID with
01:00:10.220
an unknown
01:00:11.020
protocol of
01:00:11.800
early treatment.
01:00:13.580
I say it
01:00:14.100
didn't happen.
01:00:15.680
He says it
01:00:16.260
did.
01:00:17.220
Allegedly.
01:00:18.540
I don't
01:00:18.780
want to,
01:00:19.380
but I'm
01:00:20.360
getting enough
01:00:20.780
pushback on
01:00:21.480
what he did
01:00:21.980
say that I'm
01:00:23.180
not entirely
01:00:23.860
sure.
01:00:25.900
But give
01:00:26.560
me a video
01:00:27.160
clip on just
01:00:27.780
that part and
01:00:28.640
maybe you'll
01:00:29.300
save me some
01:00:29.780
time.
01:00:30.120
But I will
01:00:30.460
listen to the
01:00:30.920
rest of it.
01:00:32.180
Honestly,
01:00:32.660
I don't know
01:00:32.980
how anybody
01:00:33.460
listens to
01:00:34.000
three hours
01:00:34.520
of content
01:00:35.020
on anything.
01:00:36.240
How do
01:00:36.520
you listen
01:00:36.820
to three
01:00:37.220
hours of
01:00:37.640
talking from
01:00:38.240
one guy?
01:00:39.480
How do
01:00:39.880
you listen
01:00:40.140
to me?
01:00:40.580
I don't
01:00:40.760
know.
01:00:41.940
Let's talk
01:00:42.540
about placebos.
01:00:44.420
Do you
01:00:44.960
know why
01:00:45.280
placebos
01:00:45.860
work?
01:00:47.940
Anybody?
01:00:49.080
Does anybody
01:00:49.580
know why
01:00:50.140
placebos
01:00:50.900
work?
01:00:53.000
I'll bet
01:00:53.580
you don't.
01:00:55.200
Give me
01:00:55.740
some ideas.
01:00:56.820
Do
01:00:56.960
placebos
01:00:57.540
work because
01:00:58.240
we think
01:00:59.560
they work?
01:01:00.120
Well, it
01:01:03.860
turns out
01:01:04.420
that it's a
01:01:05.220
little bit
01:01:05.540
confusing.
01:01:06.400
I was doing
01:01:06.740
a little
01:01:06.980
research this
01:01:07.720
morning.
01:01:08.560
One of the
01:01:08.900
reasons that
01:01:09.420
placebos appear
01:01:10.880
to work,
01:01:12.260
anyway, this
01:01:13.040
is the best
01:01:13.440
part of the
01:01:13.820
show.
01:01:14.280
Glad you
01:01:14.620
waited.
01:01:15.380
The reason
01:01:15.820
that placebos
01:01:16.660
appear to
01:01:17.060
work might
01:01:18.080
be that you
01:01:19.300
think they
01:01:19.840
worked and
01:01:20.600
they didn't.
01:01:21.760
One example
01:01:22.440
would be
01:01:22.880
asthma.
01:01:23.260
If you give
01:01:24.620
somebody an
01:01:25.100
asthma placebo
01:01:25.960
and ask them
01:01:27.540
if it worked,
01:01:28.280
they'll say
01:01:28.680
yes.
01:01:29.140
but if you
01:01:30.120
measure their
01:01:30.940
actual oxygen,
01:01:33.280
it didn't.
01:01:34.660
So part of
01:01:35.300
why placebos
01:01:36.160
seem to
01:01:36.820
work is
01:01:37.340
people say
01:01:38.000
they feel
01:01:38.460
better but
01:01:39.240
nothing's
01:01:40.260
actually different.
01:01:41.100
It's just
01:01:41.360
an imagination.
01:01:42.920
But there's
01:01:43.780
a weirder
01:01:44.260
category where
01:01:46.060
people's body
01:01:47.260
will actually
01:01:48.120
be measurably
01:01:49.960
better.
01:01:51.420
For example,
01:01:52.020
if you give
01:01:52.580
somebody a
01:01:53.280
placebo blood
01:01:55.600
pressure med,
01:01:57.480
it can actually
01:01:58.080
lower the
01:01:58.520
blood pressure
01:01:59.280
and you
01:01:59.600
can measure
01:02:00.000
it.
01:02:01.940
So the
01:02:03.300
second reason
01:02:04.040
is that the
01:02:04.840
brain actually
01:02:05.760
somehow,
01:02:08.000
for those
01:02:08.500
things that
01:02:08.960
the brain
01:02:09.360
can directly
01:02:10.020
control,
01:02:11.660
it just has
01:02:12.360
to know what
01:02:12.860
its intention
01:02:13.440
is and then
01:02:14.360
it just does
01:02:14.940
it.
01:02:17.080
But is that
01:02:18.300
the only
01:02:18.640
reason?
01:02:18.940
So some of
01:02:20.680
it is the
01:02:21.080
brain actually
01:02:21.660
corresponding to
01:02:22.700
what you think
01:02:23.300
it should do.
01:02:24.000
and then
01:02:27.340
there's this
01:02:27.760
weird, weird
01:02:28.800
result that
01:02:30.220
I'd never
01:02:30.580
heard before
01:02:31.160
which is that
01:02:32.520
the longer
01:02:33.020
you use the
01:02:33.740
placebo, the
01:02:34.440
better it
01:02:34.840
works.
01:02:36.520
Have you
01:02:37.040
ever heard
01:02:37.360
that before?
01:02:38.780
So if you
01:02:40.020
had a
01:02:40.980
placebo and
01:02:42.180
you said,
01:02:42.520
all right,
01:02:42.680
we're going to
01:02:42.940
give you this
01:02:43.460
placebo for
01:02:44.280
blood pressure
01:02:45.340
and everybody
01:02:46.800
thought it
01:02:47.180
was real,
01:02:48.620
if you
01:02:49.300
started measuring
01:02:50.060
their blood
01:02:50.500
pressure on
01:02:51.220
day one,
01:02:52.560
maybe a few
01:02:53.160
people would
01:02:53.640
actually have
01:02:54.040
better blood
01:02:54.520
pressure and
01:02:55.220
you'd say,
01:02:55.600
well, there's
01:02:55.880
that placebo
01:02:56.460
effect.
01:02:57.520
But allegedly,
01:02:58.840
if you came
01:02:59.400
back in a
01:02:59.880
month, even
01:03:01.420
more people
01:03:02.220
would have
01:03:03.260
even better
01:03:03.900
blood pressure
01:03:04.620
and if you
01:03:05.640
came back a
01:03:06.160
month after
01:03:06.620
that, even
01:03:08.420
more people
01:03:09.020
would be
01:03:09.360
better.
01:03:10.320
So somehow
01:03:10.840
a placebo
01:03:11.640
increases in
01:03:13.700
power over
01:03:15.260
time.
01:03:17.720
What?
01:03:19.220
What?
01:03:20.500
How is
01:03:21.300
any of this
01:03:21.720
possible?
01:03:23.360
All right.
01:03:25.620
Let me add
01:03:26.640
a hypothesis
01:03:27.420
that is not
01:03:28.500
included in
01:03:29.220
WebMD where
01:03:30.160
they tell you
01:03:30.740
what causes
01:03:31.960
this.
01:03:32.220
Oh, and
01:03:32.380
the other
01:03:33.160
possibility is
01:03:34.900
that placebo
01:03:36.360
will reduce
01:03:37.120
your anxiety.
01:03:38.620
So if you
01:03:39.040
believe you're
01:03:39.680
being helped,
01:03:41.240
the lowering
01:03:41.780
of your
01:03:42.280
stress
01:03:42.900
response
01:03:45.080
could make
01:03:46.220
you just
01:03:46.980
get better
01:03:47.500
because your
01:03:48.100
body would
01:03:48.680
be better
01:03:49.060
at healing
01:03:49.440
itself
01:03:49.880
because you
01:03:50.840
would reduce
01:03:51.280
your stress
01:03:52.000
over your
01:03:52.540
own problem.
01:03:54.700
Also
01:03:55.060
possible.
01:03:56.600
Here is
01:03:57.380
my own
01:03:59.060
interpretation
01:03:59.740
to add
01:04:00.800
to the
01:04:01.080
mix.
01:04:02.380
If we
01:04:03.160
are a
01:04:03.540
simulation,
01:04:04.740
as I
01:04:05.460
expect we
01:04:06.060
are,
01:04:07.280
and I've
01:04:07.960
told you
01:04:08.300
before that
01:04:09.640
intention
01:04:10.240
appears,
01:04:11.580
don't know
01:04:12.060
for sure,
01:04:12.740
but it
01:04:13.120
appears to
01:04:13.960
rewrite the
01:04:15.300
simulation.
01:04:15.720
if you
01:04:17.540
take a
01:04:17.960
placebo,
01:04:20.060
and you're
01:04:20.700
a group
01:04:21.060
of people,
01:04:21.540
let's say,
01:04:21.820
a group
01:04:22.060
of people
01:04:22.400
take a
01:04:22.780
placebo,
01:04:23.460
you could
01:04:24.020
count on
01:04:24.460
some of
01:04:24.820
those people
01:04:25.280
to say,
01:04:25.900
because people
01:04:26.360
are all
01:04:26.680
different and
01:04:27.260
weird,
01:04:28.120
some of
01:04:28.540
those people
01:04:28.940
would say,
01:04:29.720
I don't
01:04:30.100
know if
01:04:30.360
this placebo
01:04:30.960
is, or
01:04:31.820
this pill
01:04:32.220
is going
01:04:32.460
to work
01:04:32.740
or not,
01:04:33.860
and then
01:04:34.380
they would
01:04:35.000
get exactly
01:04:35.560
that result.
01:04:37.060
They would
01:04:37.380
say,
01:04:37.840
I'm not,
01:04:38.440
I want it
01:04:39.000
to work,
01:04:40.080
but I'm not
01:04:40.580
confident,
01:04:41.680
and then
01:04:42.320
nothing happens.
01:04:43.740
So there
01:04:44.240
would be
01:04:44.440
lots of
01:04:44.760
people who
01:04:45.140
would take
01:04:45.400
a pill
01:04:45.660
and say,
01:04:46.000
I don't
01:04:46.240
know,
01:04:46.600
I don't
01:04:46.880
know if
01:04:47.060
it's going
01:04:47.300
to work.
01:04:47.940
Would
01:04:48.200
those people
01:04:48.740
have an
01:04:49.200
intention
01:04:49.760
of getting
01:04:50.680
better,
01:04:51.580
or would
01:04:51.880
they simply
01:04:52.280
want to
01:04:52.680
get better?
01:04:53.760
I would
01:04:54.040
say those
01:04:54.700
are people
01:04:55.080
who want
01:04:55.480
to get
01:04:55.740
better,
01:04:56.080
but they
01:04:56.360
don't trust
01:04:56.860
that there's
01:04:57.320
any mechanism
01:04:58.200
for it to
01:04:58.660
happen.
01:04:59.740
And maybe
01:05:00.060
they don't
01:05:00.380
get better.
01:05:01.520
But suppose
01:05:02.180
some of the
01:05:03.820
people who
01:05:04.180
took a pill,
01:05:05.220
not knowing
01:05:05.860
it was a
01:05:06.280
placebo,
01:05:07.400
had a
01:05:08.160
stronger
01:05:08.660
belief in
01:05:09.280
it.
01:05:09.960
So strong,
01:05:10.820
in fact,
01:05:11.140
that you
01:05:11.500
could call
01:05:11.940
it an
01:05:12.320
intention.
01:05:14.100
In other
01:05:14.460
words,
01:05:14.820
they're so
01:05:15.340
certain that
01:05:16.160
they have a
01:05:16.560
real pill
01:05:17.040
that's really
01:05:17.540
going to
01:05:17.800
help,
01:05:18.340
not for a
01:05:18.860
good reason,
01:05:19.460
but psychologically
01:05:20.280
they're still
01:05:20.860
certain.
01:05:21.980
Does it get
01:05:22.720
so close to
01:05:24.100
certainty that
01:05:25.100
it feels like
01:05:25.760
an intention?
01:05:27.660
And at that
01:05:28.300
point,
01:05:28.920
does it actually
01:05:29.700
just change the
01:05:30.520
simulation?
01:05:31.840
In other
01:05:32.280
words,
01:05:33.300
are people who
01:05:34.200
take placebos
01:05:35.120
using the
01:05:35.640
placebo as
01:05:36.440
just a,
01:05:37.320
let's say,
01:05:38.040
a technique
01:05:38.920
to change
01:05:41.340
their own
01:05:41.740
intentions and
01:05:42.740
then the
01:05:43.020
intentions change
01:05:43.960
the simulation
01:05:44.680
and the
01:05:45.560
simulation just
01:05:46.260
gives you
01:05:46.600
back your
01:05:46.980
health?
01:05:49.160
I'm not
01:05:49.800
going to say
01:05:50.220
that's what's
01:05:50.760
happening.
01:05:52.000
I'm going to
01:05:52.680
say that it
01:05:53.160
would explain
01:05:53.700
everything we
01:05:54.340
see,
01:05:55.280
which doesn't
01:05:56.420
mean it's
01:05:56.720
true.
01:05:57.400
But as a
01:05:58.120
filter for
01:05:58.740
explaining the
01:05:59.440
world,
01:06:00.600
you should
01:06:01.140
take the
01:06:01.520
one that
01:06:01.820
explains
01:06:02.220
everything
01:06:02.640
and predicts.
01:06:04.800
So,
01:06:05.520
that would
01:06:06.840
explain every
01:06:07.760
part of the
01:06:08.440
placebos.
01:06:10.700
That you're
01:06:11.440
just making
01:06:12.500
it happen
01:06:13.000
because that's
01:06:15.060
how things
01:06:15.440
work.
01:06:15.960
You want to
01:06:16.280
get weirder?
01:06:18.680
Here's my
01:06:19.520
hypothesis with
01:06:21.440
no science
01:06:22.360
behind it,
01:06:22.880
right?
01:06:23.060
This is just
01:06:23.600
a speculation.
01:06:26.280
I've never
01:06:27.160
quite bought
01:06:27.880
into the
01:06:29.280
mechanism for
01:06:30.380
evolution,
01:06:32.400
meaning that
01:06:33.680
it's just
01:06:35.340
chance and
01:06:36.220
mutation and
01:06:37.140
time and
01:06:38.480
the things
01:06:38.920
that are
01:06:39.200
more adaptive
01:06:40.660
and more
01:06:41.180
likely to
01:06:41.980
survive.
01:06:43.240
There might
01:06:43.700
be some of
01:06:44.160
that going
01:06:44.520
on.
01:06:45.920
But I
01:06:46.780
really,
01:06:47.640
based on
01:06:48.220
everything that
01:06:48.820
I see about
01:06:49.780
how intentions
01:06:50.760
appear to
01:06:51.740
actually just
01:06:52.780
change reality,
01:06:55.020
would you
01:06:55.500
suspect that
01:06:56.740
if a giraffe
01:06:57.560
could not
01:06:58.140
reach the
01:06:58.920
leaves that
01:06:59.420
are higher
01:06:59.740
up on the
01:07:00.160
tree,
01:07:01.600
that its
01:07:02.320
intention,
01:07:03.080
which would
01:07:03.440
be very
01:07:03.860
clear,
01:07:04.260
to reach
01:07:05.540
the leaves
01:07:06.140
at the
01:07:06.420
top of
01:07:06.720
the tree?
01:07:07.640
But they
01:07:08.220
can't.
01:07:09.520
It's not
01:07:09.980
like the
01:07:10.440
neck is
01:07:11.040
going to
01:07:11.280
grow in
01:07:11.680
real time,
01:07:12.280
right?
01:07:12.600
We don't
01:07:13.060
have that
01:07:13.380
capability.
01:07:14.580
Could that
01:07:15.020
giraffe,
01:07:16.480
by its
01:07:16.960
intention
01:07:17.560
alone,
01:07:19.000
intention
01:07:19.640
alone,
01:07:20.320
very clear,
01:07:21.340
want to
01:07:21.840
reach higher
01:07:22.420
leaves,
01:07:23.720
could that
01:07:24.220
translate into
01:07:25.080
the child?
01:07:25.960
In other
01:07:27.600
words,
01:07:28.600
could it
01:07:29.080
change which
01:07:30.000
child the
01:07:32.160
giraffe has?
01:07:32.960
could that
01:07:34.200
child then,
01:07:36.540
on average,
01:07:37.400
have a
01:07:37.660
longer neck?
01:07:39.840
Now,
01:07:40.240
there's no
01:07:40.520
scientific
01:07:42.040
mechanism for
01:07:43.000
this.
01:07:43.320
I'm quite
01:07:43.680
aware of
01:07:44.040
that,
01:07:44.400
right?
01:07:46.760
Epigenetics
01:07:47.240
means that
01:07:48.020
you're trying
01:07:49.000
to do the
01:07:49.560
thing and
01:07:50.860
the attempt
01:07:51.900
moved to
01:07:52.580
the next
01:07:52.980
generation.
01:07:54.860
But that,
01:07:56.320
I think
01:07:56.720
epigenetics,
01:07:58.360
give me a
01:07:59.240
science lesson
01:07:59.840
here,
01:08:00.160
fact check
01:08:00.540
me.
01:08:01.100
I think
01:08:01.500
the idea
01:08:01.860
for that
01:08:02.240
is,
01:08:02.480
let's say,
01:08:02.740
if your
01:08:03.120
father lifted
01:08:04.500
a lot of
01:08:04.980
objects and
01:08:05.540
had big
01:08:06.080
muscles,
01:08:07.500
that the
01:08:07.840
child would
01:08:08.420
more likely
01:08:08.920
have big
01:08:09.340
muscles,
01:08:09.980
which I
01:08:10.380
don't believe
01:08:10.820
has any
01:08:11.280
evidence to
01:08:11.920
support it,
01:08:12.460
right?
01:08:13.820
Am I right
01:08:14.460
on that so
01:08:14.920
far?
01:08:16.580
But that's
01:08:17.420
not what I'm
01:08:17.800
talking about.
01:08:18.520
I'm talking
01:08:18.880
about a pure
01:08:19.540
mental process
01:08:20.580
in which
01:08:21.220
intending
01:08:22.320
something
01:08:22.880
translates into
01:08:24.340
which children
01:08:25.480
get born.
01:08:26.920
Now,
01:08:27.560
again,
01:08:27.980
I want to
01:08:28.220
say as
01:08:28.480
clearly as
01:08:28.980
possible,
01:08:29.420
there's no
01:08:29.900
evidence for
01:08:30.540
that,
01:08:31.480
none
01:08:31.820
whatsoever.
01:08:33.380
But,
01:08:34.080
if we are
01:08:35.520
a simulation,
01:08:36.700
for which the
01:08:37.420
argument is
01:08:37.860
very strong,
01:08:39.140
if we are
01:08:39.620
a simulation,
01:08:40.680
it does
01:08:41.320
suggest that
01:08:41.980
intentions can
01:08:43.420
change things,
01:08:45.420
and that maybe
01:08:46.040
that's behind
01:08:46.600
placebos.
01:08:47.660
It's just an
01:08:48.260
intention play.
01:08:49.800
Could be.
01:08:51.040
Anyway,
01:08:53.500
Lamarckism,
01:08:54.680
yeah, all those
01:08:55.200
things are not
01:08:55.740
what I'm talking
01:08:56.300
about.
01:08:57.580
Epigenetics
01:08:58.100
and
01:08:59.500
Lamarckism
01:09:01.800
are not
01:09:02.840
what I'm
01:09:03.180
talking about.
01:09:05.040
Right?
01:09:07.700
Definitely
01:09:08.180
not talking
01:09:08.760
about those
01:09:09.160
things.
01:09:10.020
But apparently
01:09:10.540
most of you
01:09:12.480
will just say
01:09:13.040
I'm talking
01:09:13.520
about those
01:09:13.980
things and
01:09:14.520
then that'll
01:09:15.800
be the end
01:09:16.160
of it.
01:09:17.560
I know I
01:09:18.380
can't win
01:09:18.780
this.
01:09:19.440
As soon as
01:09:19.960
you're reminded
01:09:20.600
of something
01:09:21.200
else,
01:09:22.620
then your
01:09:23.760
brain goes
01:09:24.260
there and
01:09:24.520
you're done.
01:09:24.840
Okay.
01:09:26.580
So Hitler's
01:09:27.720
parents want
01:09:28.480
it.
01:09:29.100
Well, no,
01:09:29.440
I'm not
01:09:29.700
suggesting it
01:09:30.320
works for
01:09:30.840
every person
01:09:31.500
in every
01:09:31.800
situation.
01:09:32.760
I'm suggesting
01:09:33.680
that it would
01:09:34.100
be a statistical
01:09:34.880
difference over
01:09:35.620
time.
01:09:37.900
All right.
01:09:42.400
And that
01:09:43.380
is what I
01:09:45.260
wanted to say,
01:09:45.880
except that
01:09:46.500
if you
01:09:48.000
extended this
01:09:48.660
to its
01:09:48.960
natural
01:09:49.720
conclusion,
01:09:50.460
and this
01:09:51.940
is a
01:09:52.360
Twitter user
01:09:53.300
GF
01:09:53.960
Odur
01:09:54.540
that is
01:09:56.480
either
01:09:56.740
GFODOR
01:09:57.640
or
01:09:57.960
girlfriend
01:09:58.460
odor.
01:10:00.260
G-F-O-D-O-R.
01:10:02.680
I hope it's
01:10:03.320
his last name
01:10:04.000
or something.
01:10:04.560
I hope his
01:10:05.260
girlfriend doesn't
01:10:05.880
have odor.
01:10:07.200
But anyway,
01:10:07.680
he tweets,
01:10:09.760
he's got a
01:10:10.200
theory,
01:10:10.600
he says a
01:10:11.380
clinical trial
01:10:12.240
might show
01:10:12.760
that if
01:10:13.900
you're a
01:10:14.200
Trump supporter,
01:10:16.180
ivermectin
01:10:16.820
and hydroxychloroquine
01:10:18.000
would work
01:10:18.620
because of the
01:10:20.380
placebo effect.
01:10:21.220
What do
01:10:23.280
you think of
01:10:23.580
that?
01:10:24.480
Do you
01:10:24.980
think that
01:10:25.300
if you
01:10:25.520
did a
01:10:25.780
trial of
01:10:26.440
Trump supporters
01:10:27.800
versus
01:10:28.440
non-Trump
01:10:29.740
supporters,
01:10:30.580
you'd find
01:10:31.220
that the
01:10:31.600
Trump supporters
01:10:32.260
actually did
01:10:33.180
get value
01:10:33.980
from ivermectin
01:10:34.940
and hydroxychloroquine,
01:10:36.600
possibly the
01:10:37.260
placebo,
01:10:38.220
but you would
01:10:38.680
find that the
01:10:39.220
Democrats would
01:10:39.940
not because
01:10:41.240
they would be
01:10:41.800
sure they
01:10:42.260
wouldn't work.
01:10:44.420
That could
01:10:45.020
actually be
01:10:45.460
tested.
01:10:46.160
I mean,
01:10:46.360
I don't know
01:10:46.900
if it's ethical
01:10:47.520
or anything,
01:10:48.160
but you could
01:10:49.280
test it,
01:10:49.920
right?
01:10:51.220
Robert's
01:10:56.440
asking,
01:10:56.920
why don't
01:10:57.200
masks work?
01:10:58.500
Robert,
01:10:58.960
we're so
01:10:59.300
done with
01:10:59.720
masks.
01:11:01.560
So done
01:11:02.040
with masks.
01:11:03.400
Yes,
01:11:03.900
so,
01:11:05.000
could it
01:11:05.400
be,
01:11:05.860
let me
01:11:06.160
take you
01:11:06.460
further,
01:11:07.140
you want
01:11:07.360
to get
01:11:07.540
weirder?
01:11:08.500
Do you
01:11:08.680
remember
01:11:08.940
that Dr.
01:11:10.980
Zelenko
01:11:11.500
had the
01:11:12.900
Zelenko
01:11:13.500
protocol,
01:11:15.380
and he
01:11:16.020
was saying
01:11:16.380
that he
01:11:16.640
was curing
01:11:17.140
people with
01:11:17.840
hydroxy and
01:11:19.380
some other
01:11:19.920
drugs in
01:11:20.460
combo.
01:11:21.220
What if
01:11:23.160
he was?
01:11:25.600
What if
01:11:26.060
he was?
01:11:28.240
What if
01:11:29.160
the doctor's
01:11:30.300
confidence,
01:11:31.560
because he
01:11:31.940
projected himself
01:11:32.880
with great
01:11:33.700
confidence,
01:11:34.480
what if his
01:11:35.040
confidence
01:11:35.600
actually convinced
01:11:37.280
his customers
01:11:38.880
in a way that
01:11:39.740
other patients
01:11:41.660
were not
01:11:42.100
convinced by
01:11:42.620
their doctors,
01:11:43.680
what if the
01:11:44.360
doctor convinced
01:11:45.300
them it was
01:11:45.780
going to work
01:11:46.360
simply because
01:11:47.720
he had that
01:11:48.440
doctor confidence?
01:11:49.660
do you
01:11:51.080
think that
01:11:51.520
I'm sorry,
01:11:52.900
Zelensky,
01:11:54.580
I'll take
01:11:55.480
the correction,
01:11:56.760
it's Dr.
01:11:57.620
Zelensky,
01:11:58.680
I pronounced
01:11:59.180
his name
01:11:59.660
wrong,
01:12:00.860
do you
01:12:01.180
think that
01:12:01.520
Dr.
01:12:02.020
Zelensky
01:12:02.520
could make
01:12:03.500
hydroxychloroquine
01:12:04.820
work for his
01:12:05.640
patients,
01:12:06.500
but not for
01:12:07.640
other people?
01:12:10.200
Yes.
01:12:12.000
That's the
01:12:12.780
weird thing.
01:12:13.940
I'm not saying
01:12:14.560
that's what
01:12:14.940
happened.
01:12:15.300
I'm not
01:12:17.540
saying that
01:12:17.940
that's what
01:12:18.280
happened.
01:12:19.100
I'm saying
01:12:19.580
it's actually
01:12:20.440
possible.
01:12:21.780
You could
01:12:22.420
have a
01:12:23.180
charismatic
01:12:23.600
doctor who
01:12:24.440
could cure
01:12:24.880
people with
01:12:25.380
placebos.
01:12:27.420
In fact,
01:12:28.260
I imagine
01:12:28.900
witch doctors
01:12:29.620
did that all
01:12:30.240
the time.
01:12:30.980
They just
01:12:31.620
convinced people
01:12:32.340
that they
01:12:32.640
were fixed
01:12:33.220
and then they
01:12:33.760
felt better.
01:12:36.060
Yeah,
01:12:36.660
so it would
01:12:39.100
be easy for
01:12:39.900
me to imagine
01:12:40.620
that there's a
01:12:41.440
world in which
01:12:42.100
ivermectin and
01:12:42.920
hydroxychloroquine
01:12:43.940
totally work,
01:12:45.580
but only for
01:12:46.380
people who
01:12:46.840
think it
01:12:47.200
will.
01:12:49.480
Remember,
01:12:50.220
the placebo
01:12:50.740
effect isn't
01:12:51.520
small.
01:12:52.640
The placebo
01:12:53.280
effect could
01:12:53.840
be anywhere
01:12:54.340
from 15%
01:12:55.780
to,
01:12:56.840
wait for
01:12:57.160
it,
01:12:58.400
70%.
01:12:59.480
The placebo
01:13:01.400
effect is so
01:13:02.320
big,
01:13:02.800
potentially,
01:13:03.460
in any
01:13:04.020
given situation,
01:13:05.260
is potentially
01:13:05.880
so big
01:13:06.680
that if
01:13:08.180
the people
01:13:09.460
who believed
01:13:10.140
these drugs
01:13:10.740
would work
01:13:11.420
took them,
01:13:12.520
it would
01:13:13.700
look exactly
01:13:14.680
like it
01:13:15.080
was a
01:13:15.560
wonder drug.
01:13:17.280
So the
01:13:17.580
weird situation
01:13:18.320
is that we
01:13:18.920
can't rule
01:13:19.420
out,
01:13:20.680
is that
01:13:21.120
ivermectin
01:13:21.940
and
01:13:22.260
hydroxychloroquine
01:13:24.780
both work
01:13:26.340
and also
01:13:29.040
don't work.
01:13:30.760
That's
01:13:31.360
entirely
01:13:31.860
possible.
01:13:33.540
That they
01:13:33.840
completely,
01:13:35.460
you know,
01:13:35.760
they work
01:13:36.360
so well
01:13:36.980
that they
01:13:38.480
might make
01:13:39.240
a gigantic
01:13:39.800
difference in
01:13:40.480
mortality
01:13:41.000
and not
01:13:42.520
have any
01:13:43.120
medical
01:13:43.480
efficacy
01:13:44.020
whatsoever.
01:13:45.540
That's
01:13:46.060
completely
01:13:46.480
possible.
01:13:47.880
Somebody
01:13:48.120
says
01:13:48.380
vaccines,
01:13:49.260
but I
01:13:49.880
think you
01:13:50.240
would catch
01:13:50.720
that in
01:13:51.060
the data
01:13:51.460
a little
01:13:51.760
bit faster.
01:13:59.960
You may
01:14:00.660
have an
01:14:01.060
indica sativa
01:14:01.920
imbalance
01:14:02.420
causing
01:14:02.940
random
01:14:03.340
thoughts.
01:14:04.440
No,
01:14:04.960
I don't
01:14:05.180
need anything
01:14:05.680
to have
01:14:05.980
random
01:14:06.260
thoughts.
01:14:06.680
If we're
01:14:12.320
in a
01:14:12.540
simulation,
01:14:13.280
we won't
01:14:13.580
be able
01:14:13.820
to create
01:14:14.120
a simulation
01:14:14.680
like the
01:14:15.100
one we
01:14:15.380
were
01:14:15.460
residing.
01:14:16.160
I'll tell
01:14:16.580
you,
01:14:16.760
I have
01:14:17.040
a hypothesis
01:14:18.040
that if
01:14:19.300
we are
01:14:19.620
a simulation,
01:14:20.580
there is
01:14:21.020
a way
01:14:21.440
to know
01:14:22.180
it.
01:14:23.320
And the
01:14:23.640
way to
01:14:24.020
know it
01:14:24.380
is that
01:14:24.840
over time,
01:14:26.660
there are
01:14:27.100
more and
01:14:27.400
more hints
01:14:27.840
until you
01:14:28.260
realize you're
01:14:28.840
in a
01:14:29.040
simulation
01:14:29.440
and then
01:14:29.960
you wake
01:14:30.380
up.
01:14:33.400
Or the
01:14:34.100
game's
01:14:34.420
over.
01:14:36.680
can the
01:14:37.260
opposite be
01:14:37.800
true?
01:14:38.200
That if
01:14:38.460
you told
01:14:38.900
people it
01:14:39.300
wouldn't
01:14:39.620
work,
01:14:40.040
that it
01:14:40.260
wouldn't
01:14:40.420
work?
01:14:40.660
Yes.
01:14:40.960
Actually,
01:14:41.340
the opposite
01:14:41.700
has been
01:14:42.140
tested.
01:14:43.140
So you
01:14:43.600
can make
01:14:44.180
people sicker
01:14:45.280
with a
01:14:46.100
placebo or
01:14:47.940
healthier,
01:14:48.660
depending on
01:14:49.340
what they
01:14:49.600
believe will
01:14:49.940
do.
01:14:50.120
That
01:14:50.260
actually
01:14:50.600
has been
01:14:50.920
tested.
01:14:54.140
All right.
01:14:55.020
Yeah,
01:14:55.500
we're not
01:14:55.720
going to talk
01:14:56.020
about masks
01:14:56.460
anymore.
01:14:57.600
The thing
01:14:58.240
with masks
01:14:58.780
is there
01:14:59.700
was a time
01:15:00.200
when that
01:15:00.540
conversation
01:15:01.100
made sense,
01:15:02.420
but not
01:15:03.100
now.
01:15:05.400
Now the
01:15:06.040
only conversation
01:15:06.780
of masks
01:15:07.280
is what
01:15:07.800
time is
01:15:08.200
it?
01:15:09.460
Have two
01:15:10.140
weeks passed?
01:15:11.940
In two
01:15:12.400
weeks,
01:15:13.460
everything's
01:15:14.020
going to be
01:15:14.340
different.
01:15:15.360
Maybe worse.
01:15:16.940
Maybe better.
01:15:18.080
But any
01:15:18.580
conversation about
01:15:19.460
the details in
01:15:20.340
the next two
01:15:20.900
weeks is a
01:15:21.400
waste of
01:15:21.740
time.
01:15:22.220
Because the
01:15:22.860
whole pandemic
01:15:23.780
landscape is
01:15:24.960
going to be
01:15:25.260
completely
01:15:25.640
different in
01:15:26.160
two weeks.
01:15:26.880
By the way,
01:15:27.260
Scott Gottlieb
01:15:27.980
said that,
01:15:29.360
and he's
01:15:29.760
been a pretty
01:15:30.520
straight shooter
01:15:32.760
on the
01:15:33.460
COVID stuff.
01:15:34.100
And he's
01:15:35.100
basically saying
01:15:35.900
it looks
01:15:36.360
like Omicron
01:15:37.720
will blow
01:15:38.140
through in
01:15:38.500
two weeks.
01:15:40.760
So February
01:15:41.400
1 is looking
01:15:42.300
pretty strong
01:15:43.260
as a time
01:15:43.980
for the
01:15:44.340
public to
01:15:46.220
exert its
01:15:46.940
pressure on
01:15:47.700
its government
01:15:48.200
and say,
01:15:49.260
now's the
01:15:50.080
time.
01:15:50.960
Now's the
01:15:51.580
time to
01:15:51.860
drop the
01:15:52.220
mandates.
01:15:55.220
Is Scott
01:15:55.980
Gottlieb
01:15:56.460
behind the
01:15:56.960
curtain?
01:15:57.840
I would
01:15:58.420
guess so.
01:15:59.600
I would
01:16:00.200
guess so.
01:16:00.580
I don't
01:16:00.760
know for
01:16:01.060
sure,
01:16:01.420
but I
01:16:01.880
would guess
01:16:02.220
so.
01:16:02.400
Star
01:16:08.260
Painter
01:16:08.640
says you
01:16:09.220
are my
01:16:09.620
placebo.
01:16:10.660
Well,
01:16:11.120
allow me
01:16:11.620
to be
01:16:11.940
all of
01:16:12.300
your
01:16:12.440
placebo.
01:16:14.880
And by
01:16:15.640
the way,
01:16:16.720
this is
01:16:17.180
real.
01:16:18.500
Do you
01:16:18.760
know I
01:16:19.040
tell you
01:16:19.340
every day
01:16:19.740
that the
01:16:20.180
simultaneous
01:16:20.820
sip is
01:16:21.640
making your
01:16:22.480
antibodies
01:16:22.980
stronger?
01:16:25.340
That's
01:16:25.820
not for
01:16:26.280
nothing.
01:16:29.540
Statistically
01:16:30.020
speaking,
01:16:30.580
I would
01:16:31.980
place a
01:16:32.820
very strong
01:16:33.520
bet that
01:16:34.900
for the
01:16:35.380
regular
01:16:35.720
listeners,
01:16:36.400
your
01:16:36.500
antibodies
01:16:36.960
are
01:16:37.240
stronger
01:16:37.560
than the
01:16:37.880
average.
01:16:38.440
Would
01:16:38.680
anybody
01:16:38.920
take that
01:16:39.400
bet?
01:16:41.200
Would
01:16:41.600
anybody
01:16:41.840
take the
01:16:42.320
bet that
01:16:43.720
my regular
01:16:44.340
listeners have
01:16:45.100
stronger
01:16:45.520
antibodies?
01:16:47.660
Forget about
01:16:48.420
the vaccinations,
01:16:49.280
but have
01:16:49.540
stronger
01:16:49.900
antibodies than
01:16:50.560
the people
01:16:50.840
who don't
01:16:51.160
listen?
01:16:52.240
I'll bet
01:16:52.500
they do.
01:16:53.300
Because every
01:16:54.000
day they hear
01:16:54.580
a message that
01:16:55.220
says their
01:16:55.700
antibodies are
01:16:56.360
getting stronger.
01:16:56.920
And while you
01:16:58.780
say to
01:16:59.040
yourself,
01:16:59.400
well,
01:16:59.520
that's not
01:16:59.880
going to
01:17:00.080
talk me
01:17:00.460
into it,
01:17:01.320
cartoonist
01:17:01.900
on a
01:17:02.180
live stream,
01:17:03.100
if you
01:17:03.440
hear it
01:17:03.740
enough,
01:17:04.940
it just
01:17:05.300
becomes part
01:17:06.280
of your
01:17:06.460
programming.
01:17:07.520
So that's
01:17:07.780
why I do
01:17:08.140
it so
01:17:08.380
often.
01:17:09.900
All right,
01:17:10.600
and that,
01:17:11.640
ladies and
01:17:12.100
gentlemen,
01:17:12.880
is the end
01:17:13.340
of the best
01:17:13.700
show you've
01:17:14.240
ever seen
01:17:14.620
in your
01:17:14.840
life,
01:17:15.140
possibly the
01:17:15.720
best
01:17:15.920
experience
01:17:16.440
that anybody's
01:17:17.000
had anywhere
01:17:17.540
on any
01:17:18.080
planet in
01:17:18.640
any dimension.
01:17:20.340
And I think
01:17:20.700
that that's a
01:17:21.100
good high point
01:17:21.640
on which to
01:17:22.340
end this.
01:17:23.460
I am going
01:17:24.100
to take your
01:17:24.840
guidance
01:17:25.380
collectively,
01:17:26.220
if you
01:17:27.180
don't mind.
01:17:28.400
I'd like to
01:17:28.840
take your
01:17:29.200
advice.
01:17:30.600
And to
01:17:30.840
turn my
01:17:31.180
attention less
01:17:32.340
to this
01:17:32.880
fighting about
01:17:33.660
COVID stuff
01:17:34.420
and more
01:17:35.320
about some
01:17:35.860
things that
01:17:36.500
are fun
01:17:37.360
and useful
01:17:37.840
and just
01:17:38.880
anything else,
01:17:39.880
just anything
01:17:40.420
else.
01:17:41.140
But I'm
01:17:41.780
personally done
01:17:42.460
with masks
01:17:43.380
and stuff
01:17:45.120
like that.
01:17:45.780
I think that
01:17:46.380
in two weeks
01:17:47.140
or so,
01:17:48.920
the public
01:17:49.340
will take
01:17:49.920
control.
01:17:50.860
I never
01:17:51.620
believed that
01:17:52.160
we would be
01:17:52.680
doomed,
01:17:53.340
and I think
01:17:53.880
we're going
01:17:54.360
to be in
01:17:54.660
good shape.
01:17:55.120
the golden
01:17:55.960
age starts
01:17:57.260
whenever you
01:17:57.740
want it to.
01:17:59.000
And that,
01:17:59.700
ladies and
01:18:00.140
gentlemen,
01:18:00.940
is my show.
01:18:01.700
Thank you.
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