Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1614 Scott Adams： Let's Talk About Taking Control Back From Teachers Unions and Government

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00:01:10.160 Well, how would you like me to talk about something different for a change?

00:01:17.360 Yeah, I hear you.

00:01:18.600 I hear you.

00:01:19.800 Do you know, I want you to know that I'm as tired of talking about the pandemic as you are.

00:01:24.100 So we're only going to brush on it toward the end, but not really talking about the pandemic so much.

00:01:28.540 More about psychology.

00:01:30.200 But let's talk about some other things.

00:01:31.520 My favorite topic is when CNN and Fox News fight.

00:01:36.940 I could not be more entertained by their little, their conflict.

00:01:42.400 So here's a good one.

00:01:44.580 I saw this in a tweet from Versha Sharma.

00:01:48.560 And he's quoting CNN's Oliver Darcy.

00:01:51.260 And Oliver Darcy of CNN said, quote,

00:01:53.200 So this actually happened.

00:02:16.080 CNN actually accused Fox News of creating fake news about the insurrection that didn't happen.

00:02:29.600 In other words, the fake news, CNN is accusing another news organization of spreading fake news about CNN's fake news.

00:02:40.060 I'm not positive.

00:02:41.940 Can somebody help me with the negatives of the negative situation?

00:02:45.280 But I think it all canceled out and we got truth.

00:02:49.840 Because if, help me out here.

00:02:51.980 If it's fake news, but if there's fake news about the fake news,

00:02:57.980 could it cancel it out and accidentally give you real news?

00:03:03.720 I know that's a little optimistic.

00:03:06.420 But maybe.

00:03:07.780 Maybe.

00:03:08.560 We accidentally got news.

00:03:11.760 So, yes.

00:03:12.800 CNN's belief is that there's absolutely no evidence.

00:03:18.360 No evidence of some kind of government conspiracy.

00:03:22.620 No, no evidence of that having to do with January 6th.

00:03:27.580 I would like to agree with CNN.

00:03:31.160 I have to agree with them.

00:03:32.560 I would also agree that there is no, what I would call, confirming evidence of FBI involvement in January 6th.

00:03:42.380 Does anybody want to disagree?

00:03:44.520 I say there's no confirmed evidence.

00:03:47.860 Plenty of suspicions.

00:03:49.900 Right?

00:03:50.080 There's the Ray Epps thing.

00:03:51.860 There's the guy with the bullhorn.

00:03:53.680 There's the people taking down the fence.

00:03:55.760 That, you know, for some reason there's all these unindicted co-conspirators.

00:04:01.080 But I'm going to agree with CNN that, to the best of my knowledge,

00:04:07.420 there's no proven, let's say proven evidence, you know, make up a term,

00:04:12.600 that the FBI was involved.

00:04:14.420 Would you agree or no?

00:04:17.800 No court has found they were involved.

00:04:20.760 But here's what CNN gets wrong, and they get it very wrong, criminally wrong, disastrously wrong,

00:04:27.820 wronger than anything could ever be.

00:04:30.500 And it goes like this.

00:04:32.840 If the Attorney General won't answer the question that Representative Massey asked under oath,

00:04:39.360 how many FBI, or actually how many government employees, were involved in January 6th?

00:04:45.560 If the government won't tell you the answer to that, the right answer is to presume guilt.

00:04:53.760 The government doesn't have a presumption of innocence.

00:04:57.460 What are you talking about?

00:04:59.180 CNN has, like, the most basic thing about life, backwards.

00:05:02.840 Individuals have, individuals, citizens, are innocent until proven guilty, not governments.

00:05:13.580 If the government is telling you it's hiding something, they are guilty until proven innocent.

00:05:20.500 Is there anybody who would disagree with that standard?

00:05:23.740 If the government says, I am not going to tell you this important information about an important topic,

00:05:30.380 is the assumption innocence?

00:05:33.960 Are you fucking kidding me?

00:05:36.500 No, CNN.

00:05:37.660 The assumption is guilt.

00:05:39.900 The government has to prove they're innocent.

00:05:42.280 I mean, if you have this many flags,

00:05:44.440 if there were no, let's say, hints or indications or suspicions

00:05:49.680 that they had been involved, that would be different.

00:05:52.980 But there are plenty, plenty of hints, suggestions, concerns,

00:05:59.620 very well short of anything that I would call confirmed, you know, proof.

00:06:04.640 But there's a lot of it, and wherever there's a lot of it,

00:06:08.860 doesn't matter if it's true, doesn't matter if it's false,

00:06:12.300 doesn't matter if the public is crazy, doesn't matter how we got here,

00:06:16.460 the burden of proof is on the government.

00:06:19.660 They are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

00:06:24.020 Under the specific situation that there's plenty of smoke,

00:06:29.080 so, you know, you worry that there could be fire,

00:06:31.720 and they refuse to answer the questions.

00:06:35.600 They refuse to answer the questions.

00:06:38.220 Under that situation, you have to assume guilt.

00:06:44.280 Does anybody disagree with that?

00:06:46.300 Is there even one person who would disagree with that standard?

00:06:49.940 Even one?

00:06:51.300 I'll bet not.

00:06:52.780 I'll bet not a single one of you disagrees with that standard.

00:06:56.360 And yes, CNN acts as if that's not the standard,

00:07:00.460 because to them it's not.

00:07:02.240 To them it's actually not the standard.

00:07:05.200 Now, I am way more supportive of Fox News' approach on this.

00:07:09.800 Well, I think they might, you know,

00:07:11.160 the opinion people get ahead of the facts.

00:07:13.640 There's no disagreement on that, right?

00:07:16.480 Wouldn't you agree that on Fox,

00:07:18.260 the opinion people get ahead of the facts?

00:07:20.960 Opinion people do that.

00:07:22.300 I mean, it's almost kind of built into the pundit job,

00:07:26.660 trying to predict, right?

00:07:27.640 But have you ever seen Fox News get ahead of the facts

00:07:32.440 and then turn out to be right?

00:07:36.240 Can you think of an example of that?

00:07:38.440 What would be an example where Fox News was way ahead of the facts

00:07:42.300 and then turned out to be right?

00:07:47.140 Russia collusion.

00:07:48.100 Fox News reported from the jump

00:07:52.360 that the Russia collusion story was bullshit.

00:07:55.520 From the jump.

00:07:58.680 And they were right.

00:08:01.600 How many people were accusing Fox News

00:08:04.140 of getting ahead of the news

00:08:05.300 and being fake news?

00:08:06.880 A lot, right?

00:08:08.240 And they were completely right.

00:08:09.780 Absolutely vindicated.

00:08:11.400 Completely vindicated.

00:08:12.460 You see, Fox News goes hard at Fauci, right?

00:08:19.620 Fox News goes really hard at Fauci.

00:08:21.820 In the beginning,

00:08:23.420 I felt that was illegitimate.

00:08:26.880 Yeah, I didn't feel like attacking him

00:08:29.900 was exactly the right move.

00:08:32.100 In other words,

00:08:32.580 it felt like the opinion people were ahead of the facts.

00:08:36.480 Were they right in the end?

00:08:38.280 Yeah, they were right.

00:08:41.800 The Fox News opinion were way ahead of the facts on Fauci.

00:08:45.600 But as we kept watching him,

00:08:47.460 oh, they were totally right.

00:08:49.060 Totally right.

00:08:50.220 Now, I don't mean about any money connections.

00:08:53.140 You know, that's unproven.

00:08:54.760 But in terms of him as a leader during this thing,

00:08:58.740 I think they were completely right

00:09:00.300 that there were some credibility issues

00:09:02.100 that were just in the past but went forward.

00:09:05.120 They predicted it right, I would say.

00:09:06.700 Yeah, the Whitmer kidnapping scandal.

00:09:09.640 I don't know the details,

00:09:11.060 but did Fox News get ahead of the news on that?

00:09:15.920 I think so.

00:09:18.440 So it's entirely legitimate

00:09:21.240 to criticize any of the news organizations

00:09:23.800 for getting ahead of the facts,

00:09:26.540 but it has to be noted that some people do a...

00:09:29.600 Wuhan lab, there you go.

00:09:31.940 Was Fox News all over the Wuhan lab

00:09:34.440 before the data was available?

00:09:38.800 Yes.

00:09:39.720 Yes, they were all over the Wuhan lab.

00:09:42.540 And they were right.

00:09:46.060 What has Fox News been saying

00:09:48.820 about the election security of, let's say, 2020?

00:09:53.640 I feel as if a lot of the Fox News hosts,

00:09:57.440 not all of them,

00:09:58.480 but some of them were ahead of the news,

00:10:00.380 wouldn't you say?

00:10:01.620 They were ahead of the news.

00:10:02.980 Well, we don't know if they were ahead of the news

00:10:04.660 because the news has not matched them.

00:10:07.780 So it could be that they're just wrong in this case.

00:10:10.920 It could be that this would be the time

00:10:12.760 that they got ahead of the news

00:10:15.020 and they were wrong.

00:10:16.640 Maybe.

00:10:16.980 But you have to look at...

00:10:21.120 It's exactly the same people,

00:10:23.720 just to blow your mind for a little bit.

00:10:26.500 All of those people who are, I would say,

00:10:29.360 rightly being criticized for being ahead of the data,

00:10:32.540 that's a fair criticism.

00:10:34.580 Would anybody disagree?

00:10:36.940 It's not an unfair criticism

00:10:38.900 to say that opinion got ahead of the data, is it?

00:10:41.780 It's almost just a description of opinion.

00:10:45.900 I mean, it wouldn't be opinion

00:10:47.160 if the data had confirmed it.

00:10:50.120 So how do we ignore the fact

00:10:52.720 that the very same people who got it...

00:10:57.020 Jussie Smollett.

00:10:58.340 There you go.

00:10:58.940 There's another one.

00:11:00.080 Fox News was way ahead of the data,

00:11:03.660 and they were right.

00:11:06.120 So how many more times

00:11:07.900 do the same group of people,

00:11:10.380 right, because it's the same pundits

00:11:13.080 as CNN, I'm sorry, at Fox News,

00:11:15.940 Covington kids, probably.

00:11:17.340 I don't know the details in that one.

00:11:19.120 But how many times do they have to be right

00:11:20.880 before you say,

00:11:25.360 well, I get that they're ahead of the data,

00:11:27.680 but this is a group of people

00:11:29.820 who have been, like, crazy right.

00:11:33.220 Not all the time.

00:11:34.720 Not all the time, by the way.

00:11:36.560 So I'm not suggesting that

00:11:38.220 Fox News has a, you know,

00:11:40.500 95% opinion getting it right

00:11:44.280 before the data.

00:11:46.260 Well, what would you say

00:11:47.920 would be the percentage?

00:11:50.440 If you had to guess,

00:11:52.640 the Fox News,

00:11:53.440 just the opinion people, right?

00:11:54.940 You know who I'm talking about,

00:11:56.180 just, you know,

00:11:57.080 the Hannity's and the Laura Ingram's

00:11:59.140 and Tucker.

00:12:00.220 You could add the five to that.

00:12:06.420 So I think this will,

00:12:07.780 your number out here will depend on.

00:12:09.920 So I'm seeing 70%, 90%, 70%.

00:12:13.460 I would have guessed,

00:12:16.120 I think I would have guessed

00:12:17.960 70%,

00:12:20.740 which is pretty good for opinion.

00:12:23.520 I'm not even sure that you'd say

00:12:25.500 that's a bad grade, would you?

00:12:27.560 Because remember,

00:12:28.320 opinion is,

00:12:29.500 it's fact-free.

00:12:31.680 It's just starting to,

00:12:33.420 you know,

00:12:33.700 sense the facts developing.

00:12:37.560 Yeah, I think they actually

00:12:38.920 do pretty well.

00:12:40.340 Fox News.

00:12:40.780 If you could do,

00:12:41.900 if you could hit a 70% prediction

00:12:44.020 by opinion alone,

00:12:46.540 you know,

00:12:46.720 just reading tea leaves

00:12:47.860 and being smart

00:12:49.340 and knowing how things work

00:12:50.900 and stuff like that,

00:12:52.040 that would be amazing.

00:12:53.520 70%.

00:12:54.520 But 30% is a big problem,

00:12:56.960 isn't it?

00:12:58.200 If the people you trusted

00:12:59.620 because they got it right

00:13:01.120 on all those other things,

00:13:03.140 what happens if they get

00:13:04.080 a big one wrong?

00:13:06.840 You know,

00:13:07.120 what if Fox News was so right

00:13:09.740 that you kind of said,

00:13:11.180 okay,

00:13:11.420 they keep getting it right,

00:13:13.120 but what if they got

00:13:13.760 a big one wrong?

00:13:16.120 That would be pretty dangerous,

00:13:17.480 wouldn't it?

00:13:17.960 If it were,

00:13:18.600 let's say,

00:13:18.940 about health,

00:13:20.140 the pandemic,

00:13:20.820 that'd be pretty dangerous.

00:13:22.060 So I would just say,

00:13:23.520 be cautious

00:13:24.380 about everything

00:13:25.080 you listen to

00:13:26.320 on any platform,

00:13:28.480 but I don't think

00:13:29.580 it's fair

00:13:30.100 to say that Fox News

00:13:31.980 is wrong

00:13:32.760 when you have,

00:13:33.920 when they have a track record

00:13:34.940 of anticipating

00:13:36.380 correctly.

00:13:38.380 Pretty well.

00:13:39.360 Pretty well,

00:13:39.960 I'd say.

00:13:40.800 Way better than chance.

00:13:43.580 All right.

00:13:43.960 Rasmussen has some polls,

00:13:47.760 some new polls

00:13:49.400 about Biden,

00:13:50.840 and apparently

00:13:51.780 he's weighing the crapper

00:13:53.860 on the economy

00:13:54.660 and national security,

00:13:56.720 so much so

00:13:57.580 that Rasmussen

00:13:58.180 had to do some research

00:13:59.540 to find out

00:14:00.640 if it was the worst ever.

00:14:05.400 Biden's numbers

00:14:06.160 are so low

00:14:07.100 that Rasmussen

00:14:08.600 had to go back

00:14:10.020 and check,

00:14:10.500 is this the worst

00:14:11.720 it's ever been

00:14:12.380 in any president ever?

00:14:14.140 Now it turns out

00:14:14.900 it's close

00:14:15.820 because I guess

00:14:16.840 Obama had

00:14:18.580 some bad polls

00:14:20.320 on some of the same stuff,

00:14:23.600 but at this point

00:14:24.740 the number of Americans

00:14:25.940 who are rating

00:14:26.740 in poor,

00:14:29.140 let's say,

00:14:29.740 was it half

00:14:30.460 or something like that?

00:14:31.960 Some gigantic number

00:14:33.060 rating in poor

00:14:34.140 on both national security

00:14:37.040 and economics.

00:14:39.460 How in the world

00:14:40.360 could he win an election?

00:14:44.260 Doesn't it just seem

00:14:45.260 like,

00:14:46.980 does anybody believe

00:14:47.880 he could win an election?

00:14:51.460 It's funny

00:14:52.140 that he's pretending

00:14:52.860 he's going to run.

00:14:54.260 All right,

00:14:54.500 let's talk about

00:14:55.060 the teachers' unions.

00:14:56.220 You may have heard

00:14:56.780 that the Chicago

00:14:58.480 teachers' unions

00:14:59.580 have voted

00:15:00.800 by some big majority,

00:15:02.360 73% or something,

00:15:04.020 to not go back

00:15:05.940 to class.

00:15:07.040 And I guess

00:15:07.600 they're going to do

00:15:08.060 some remote work action

00:15:10.440 or something like that.

00:15:11.620 So they're worried

00:15:12.960 about the coronavirus,

00:15:14.660 don't want to go back

00:15:15.400 to class.

00:15:17.420 Now,

00:15:18.100 here's an interesting thing.

00:15:22.120 Does everybody know

00:15:23.200 who Max Boot is?

00:15:25.640 If you don't,

00:15:26.840 just know this.

00:15:28.400 There's nobody

00:15:29.060 who's more of a Democrat

00:15:30.300 than Max Boot.

00:15:31.980 If you were to look up

00:15:33.280 Democrat

00:15:34.020 in the dictionary,

00:15:36.360 it would be like

00:15:37.220 a little picture

00:15:37.760 of Max Boot.

00:15:39.380 By that I mean

00:15:40.200 you can depend

00:15:41.440 on Max Boot

00:15:42.400 to say whatever

00:15:43.820 Democrats,

00:15:45.100 whatever their message is,

00:15:46.420 just period.

00:15:48.340 Here's a guy

00:15:49.040 who's never going

00:15:49.720 to get off the path.

00:15:51.640 He's going to be

00:15:52.200 Democrat message

00:15:53.280 all the way,

00:15:54.320 every time,

00:15:55.140 no doubt about it.

00:15:56.620 Here's another one

00:15:57.480 that would be like that,

00:15:58.200 Joe Lockhart.

00:15:59.600 If you've watched him,

00:16:00.680 again,

00:16:01.720 you don't need

00:16:02.560 to know him deeply.

00:16:04.500 I'll just tell you

00:16:05.100 that you've never

00:16:06.720 seen Joe Lockhart

00:16:07.820 say anything publicly

00:16:10.080 that wasn't exactly

00:16:11.080 what Democrats say.

00:16:13.100 There's no amount

00:16:14.040 of data or information

00:16:15.320 that's going to make

00:16:16.160 Joe Lockhart

00:16:17.260 or Max Boot

00:16:18.600 turn on the narrative.

00:16:22.140 Am I right?

00:16:23.360 Would you agree

00:16:23.980 with that?

00:16:25.140 Those guys are not

00:16:26.040 going to turn

00:16:26.520 on the Democrat narrative.

00:16:27.680 until you fuck

00:16:35.280 with their kids.

00:16:38.100 And guess what happened?

00:16:41.480 The teachers unions

00:16:43.020 are fucking

00:16:44.720 with our kids.

00:16:47.060 And that was the limit.

00:16:49.460 Here's what Max Boot

00:16:50.480 tweeted today

00:16:51.580 about the Chicago

00:16:53.900 teachers unions action.

00:16:55.820 This is outrageous.

00:16:56.640 These teachers

00:16:57.680 need to teach.

00:16:58.940 These teachers

00:16:59.380 need to teach.

00:17:00.400 Kids come first.

00:17:01.700 And there's no real danger

00:17:02.840 to the teachers

00:17:03.580 as long as they

00:17:04.360 have had all

00:17:05.260 three vaccine shots.

00:17:08.060 That is Max Boot

00:17:09.140 turning on a

00:17:10.120 teachers union.

00:17:13.200 Why?

00:17:14.720 Because they fucked

00:17:15.780 with kids.

00:17:17.020 That's too far.

00:17:18.760 That's too far.

00:17:21.000 What did Joe Lockhart

00:17:22.300 say about Max Boot's

00:17:23.720 tweet?

00:17:24.480 He said,

00:17:24.960 I've supported unions

00:17:26.180 my entire life.

00:17:27.600 I was a member

00:17:28.260 of a union.

00:17:29.540 But Max Boot

00:17:30.780 is right.

00:17:31.800 These teachers

00:17:32.480 are playing politics

00:17:33.620 with COVID

00:17:34.220 which is damaging

00:17:35.480 our children.

00:17:36.540 You can't criticize

00:17:37.480 the right for outrageous

00:17:38.720 behavior and then

00:17:39.680 support these teachers.

00:17:47.000 Finally.

00:17:47.560 What did I tell you

00:17:51.400 was going to happen

00:17:53.420 probably pretty soon?

00:17:59.020 You know,

00:17:59.780 I've said

00:18:00.320 if you get in trouble

00:18:02.300 you don't want

00:18:03.740 mom to find out

00:18:04.860 because mom

00:18:06.660 will punish you

00:18:07.720 if you get in trouble.

00:18:08.600 It's like,

00:18:08.800 oh no,

00:18:09.400 mom found out

00:18:10.240 I broke the vase

00:18:11.280 or something like that.

00:18:12.020 So you really

00:18:13.500 don't want

00:18:13.820 to piss off mom

00:18:14.860 but you don't

00:18:17.860 want mom

00:18:18.340 to call dad.

00:18:20.380 Right?

00:18:20.680 Now I'm

00:18:20.980 talking about

00:18:22.340 classic 50s family

00:18:23.740 here.

00:18:24.040 I know it doesn't

00:18:24.500 apply so much

00:18:25.160 in 2022.

00:18:26.680 But

00:18:27.080 I feel like dad

00:18:29.020 just got called

00:18:29.800 on this

00:18:31.620 school stuff.

00:18:33.500 Joe Lockhart

00:18:34.240 I'm just guessing.

00:18:35.760 I assume

00:18:36.100 Joe Lockhart

00:18:36.760 and Max Boot

00:18:37.320 are probably

00:18:37.640 both dads.

00:18:38.820 Am I right?

00:18:40.400 Anyway,

00:18:40.640 can you confirm that?

00:18:41.680 I assume

00:18:41.980 they're both parents,

00:18:42.940 right?

00:18:43.520 Just guessing.

00:18:45.160 But

00:18:45.520 they reached

00:18:47.780 their limit.

00:18:49.260 Now it's time

00:18:49.960 for dad.

00:18:51.380 So it looks

00:18:52.040 like the dads

00:18:52.780 probably

00:18:54.080 are the ones

00:18:54.680 that are going

00:18:55.000 to have to

00:18:55.640 end this.

00:18:57.380 If all the women

00:18:58.340 in the world

00:18:59.260 formed together

00:19:01.400 and protested

00:19:02.480 anything

00:19:02.900 they might get it.

00:19:05.900 If women

00:19:06.700 protest as a group

00:19:07.960 they can be

00:19:08.600 pretty strong.

00:19:09.240 but

00:19:10.640 if you really

00:19:11.660 need to break

00:19:12.300 something

00:19:12.740 like if you

00:19:14.740 just need

00:19:15.060 something

00:19:15.360 to just

00:19:15.800 get broken

00:19:16.440 call dad.

00:19:18.980 He'll break

00:19:19.620 that shit.

00:19:21.280 If you need

00:19:22.180 to go extreme

00:19:23.140 mom isn't

00:19:25.020 the right choice.

00:19:26.860 If you need

00:19:27.780 to threaten

00:19:28.800 violence

00:19:29.580 I'm opposed

00:19:30.960 to violence

00:19:31.500 so I don't

00:19:31.980 promote it

00:19:32.580 but if you

00:19:33.500 need the threat

00:19:34.180 of it

00:19:34.560 you gotta

00:19:35.620 call dad.

00:19:36.420 And we

00:19:39.620 are approaching

00:19:40.200 the point

00:19:40.840 where the

00:19:42.060 dads

00:19:42.520 have not

00:19:43.400 ruled down

00:19:43.860 violence.

00:19:46.980 Somebody says

00:19:47.840 you clearly

00:19:48.300 don't know

00:19:48.720 my mom.

00:19:49.620 Yeah there

00:19:49.900 are definitely

00:19:50.280 exceptions.

00:19:52.400 And I'm

00:19:53.200 not suggesting

00:19:54.980 violence etc.

00:19:56.100 But when

00:19:56.640 things get

00:19:57.240 extreme

00:19:58.400 in terms of

00:19:59.820 when the

00:20:00.140 public is

00:20:00.980 extremely abused

00:20:02.280 at the point

00:20:03.700 where the

00:20:04.020 public is

00:20:04.600 suffering

00:20:05.740 extreme abuse

00:20:06.780 we're not

00:20:07.780 talking about

00:20:08.280 talking anymore.

00:20:09.980 Right?

00:20:10.720 There is an

00:20:11.280 implied violence

00:20:12.620 that comes

00:20:14.000 with male

00:20:14.560 activity.

00:20:15.900 Would anybody

00:20:16.340 disagree with

00:20:16.980 that?

00:20:18.240 Just getting

00:20:18.800 a lot of

00:20:19.140 men involved

00:20:19.880 brings violence

00:20:21.580 with it.

00:20:23.260 So to the

00:20:24.140 extent

00:20:24.480 that dads

00:20:26.860 get interested

00:20:27.760 in any

00:20:28.440 topic

00:20:28.800 and I think

00:20:29.760 they'll get

00:20:30.060 a lot interested

00:20:30.700 in this

00:20:32.000 whole school

00:20:32.920 closing stuff

00:20:33.860 there is an

00:20:35.780 implied violence

00:20:36.960 that doesn't

00:20:39.000 have to be

00:20:39.540 spoken

00:20:39.920 that just

00:20:41.140 comes with

00:20:41.680 large male

00:20:42.360 activity.

00:20:44.880 Right?

00:20:45.940 So nobody

00:20:46.940 has to say

00:20:47.540 it and I

00:20:48.180 definitely don't

00:20:48.880 think anybody

00:20:49.400 should do it.

00:20:50.320 Like I don't

00:20:50.680 want to see

00:20:51.000 any violence

00:20:51.540 about this.

00:20:52.540 But we're

00:20:53.620 at a new

00:20:54.100 level now.

00:20:56.480 And I've

00:20:56.920 told you before

00:20:57.560 that the

00:20:58.100 public is the

00:20:59.120 only tool

00:20:59.840 for ending

00:21:01.060 a pandemic

00:21:01.700 or ending

00:21:02.700 these restrictions

00:21:03.500 or for getting

00:21:04.560 past the

00:21:05.040 teachers'

00:21:05.500 unions.

00:21:06.200 The public

00:21:06.760 is going to

00:21:07.140 have to do

00:21:07.540 this by a

00:21:08.720 solid majority.

00:21:10.440 Something like

00:21:11.040 75%.

00:21:12.160 Do you think

00:21:13.720 that we're

00:21:14.160 close to a

00:21:14.820 75%

00:21:15.760 majority,

00:21:16.420 public

00:21:16.680 majority,

00:21:17.860 of getting

00:21:18.300 the kids

00:21:18.660 back to

00:21:19.040 school and

00:21:19.480 ending,

00:21:20.480 and let's

00:21:21.160 extend this

00:21:21.720 maybe to

00:21:22.120 ending mandates,

00:21:22.960 but let's

00:21:23.220 talk about

00:21:23.560 the school

00:21:23.960 right now.

00:21:25.040 I think we

00:21:25.640 are.

00:21:26.920 I mean if

00:21:27.360 you could get

00:21:27.820 Max Boot and

00:21:28.760 Joe Lockhart

00:21:29.400 on the same

00:21:29.960 team with

00:21:30.620 the staunchest

00:21:32.040 Republicans,

00:21:34.080 I feel like

00:21:34.840 we're pretty

00:21:35.300 close.

00:21:36.000 Okay,

00:21:36.440 Max has

00:21:36.840 confirmed a

00:21:37.440 father,

00:21:37.780 I thought so.

00:21:40.960 It's time

00:21:41.600 for the

00:21:41.880 public to

00:21:43.260 take control.

00:21:45.280 Does anybody

00:21:45.980 disagree with

00:21:46.760 the concept

00:21:47.800 that we

00:21:49.640 don't have to

00:21:50.100 have a fight

00:21:50.620 with the

00:21:50.940 government,

00:21:52.140 because it's

00:21:52.500 not a fight.

00:21:53.620 Ultimately,

00:21:54.260 we're on the

00:21:54.520 same side.

00:21:55.040 The government

00:21:56.800 needs an

00:21:57.320 assist.

00:21:59.000 It needs

00:22:00.420 the public

00:22:01.000 to power

00:22:02.340 up, which

00:22:03.500 is happening,

00:22:04.720 and to just

00:22:05.420 break some

00:22:05.900 log jams.

00:22:07.880 And sometimes

00:22:08.780 you've got to

00:22:09.180 call dad.

00:22:10.480 It looks like

00:22:11.040 dad got

00:22:11.500 called.

00:22:13.800 So I feel

00:22:15.160 like something

00:22:15.880 amazing and

00:22:17.460 good could

00:22:19.660 be about

00:22:20.640 ready to

00:22:21.160 happen,

00:22:22.260 meaning that

00:22:23.080 I would be

00:22:23.760 really surprised

00:22:24.580 if the

00:22:25.000 teachers'

00:22:25.480 unions don't

00:22:26.040 back down

00:22:26.620 pretty quickly.

00:22:27.780 What do you

00:22:28.100 think?

00:22:29.240 Do you think

00:22:29.660 the teachers'

00:22:30.320 unions will

00:22:30.860 go ahead as

00:22:31.800 if the rest

00:22:32.980 of the world

00:22:33.400 doesn't matter?

00:22:34.640 Or do you

00:22:35.260 think that

00:22:35.820 turning Democrats

00:22:37.380 against them,

00:22:39.420 and the dads

00:22:40.220 especially,

00:22:41.780 do you think

00:22:42.320 that will make

00:22:42.720 a difference?

00:22:47.720 Yeah,

00:22:48.320 I don't know.

00:22:48.920 I would bet

00:22:50.080 that the

00:22:50.620 teachers'

00:22:51.120 unions will get

00:22:51.920 enough pressure

00:22:52.520 to back down.

00:22:53.240 now they

00:22:54.800 have some

00:22:55.100 competition

00:22:55.620 over in

00:22:56.160 Arizona,

00:22:57.020 according to

00:22:57.820 Corey De

00:22:59.020 Angelis,

00:22:59.560 who's the

00:23:00.420 biggest name

00:23:01.040 in the

00:23:01.640 teachers'

00:23:02.420 unions

00:23:02.760 conversations.

00:23:05.980 By the way,

00:23:06.700 if you're not

00:23:07.040 following Corey,

00:23:08.280 you need to.

00:23:10.460 That's a

00:23:11.060 requirement.

00:23:13.140 If you watch

00:23:14.020 me on

00:23:14.320 live stream,

00:23:15.700 one of the

00:23:16.240 best people

00:23:16.700 to follow

00:23:18.280 is Corey

00:23:19.040 De

00:23:19.520 Angelis.

00:23:20.160 just Google

00:23:22.100 him,

00:23:22.320 he'll pop

00:23:22.680 up.

00:23:23.580 Anyway,

00:23:24.740 Doug Ducey,

00:23:25.800 governor of

00:23:26.280 Arizona,

00:23:27.200 announced that

00:23:28.020 eligible families

00:23:29.220 will be able to

00:23:29.900 take their

00:23:30.320 children's

00:23:30.880 education dollars

00:23:31.860 elsewhere if

00:23:33.200 their public

00:23:33.720 school closes.

00:23:35.180 There we go.

00:23:36.920 That's how you

00:23:37.400 do it.

00:23:38.840 That's how you

00:23:39.520 do it.

00:23:40.520 You don't have

00:23:41.020 to break the

00:23:41.620 union,

00:23:42.600 you just give

00:23:43.400 them competition

00:23:44.000 because it's the

00:23:45.360 last thing they

00:23:46.100 want.

00:23:46.460 the last

00:23:48.200 thing the

00:23:48.800 teachers'

00:23:49.280 unions want

00:23:49.960 is competition.

00:23:52.240 So let's

00:23:52.620 give it to

00:23:52.980 them.

00:23:53.900 You don't

00:23:54.220 have to make

00:23:56.100 a law to

00:23:56.660 ban them.

00:23:57.960 But what

00:23:58.480 if we did?

00:24:00.160 Let me ask

00:24:00.920 you this.

00:24:01.300 Do you think

00:24:01.700 that the

00:24:02.160 military should

00:24:03.040 be allowed

00:24:03.480 to form a

00:24:04.240 union?

00:24:05.580 It's a

00:24:06.180 volunteer army

00:24:06.900 in the United

00:24:07.980 States.

00:24:08.700 Do you think

00:24:09.080 soldiers,

00:24:10.120 the Marines,

00:24:10.860 etc.,

00:24:11.340 do you think

00:24:12.000 that they

00:24:12.300 should be

00:24:12.520 able to

00:24:12.780 form a

00:24:13.300 union to

00:24:14.240 make demands

00:24:15.040 of their

00:24:15.680 leaders?

00:24:18.820 No.

00:24:20.740 No.

00:24:22.440 It's not

00:24:23.020 going to be

00:24:23.300 a very good

00:24:24.220 military if

00:24:24.960 it's got a

00:24:25.360 union.

00:24:26.220 No.

00:24:27.280 It's an

00:24:27.680 obvious

00:24:28.040 exception.

00:24:29.520 Right?

00:24:30.720 Now,

00:24:31.720 how many of

00:24:33.160 you are

00:24:33.400 pro-union,

00:24:34.140 by the way,

00:24:34.480 just sort of

00:24:34.900 in general?

00:24:35.480 That doesn't

00:24:35.840 mean applied

00:24:36.480 to every

00:24:36.920 situation.

00:24:37.900 But how

00:24:38.240 many of

00:24:38.580 you are

00:24:38.920 generally

00:24:39.380 positive

00:24:40.960 about unions

00:24:41.940 historically,

00:24:43.540 let's say?

00:24:44.960 Yeah,

00:24:45.120 a lot of

00:24:45.920 conservatives

00:24:46.380 are saying

00:24:46.880 no.

00:24:48.440 We've got

00:24:48.740 some yeses,

00:24:49.460 but a lot

00:24:49.720 of noes.

00:24:50.660 So,

00:24:51.460 I understand

00:24:54.400 the anti-union

00:24:55.760 argument.

00:24:57.360 The anti-union

00:24:58.480 argument is,

00:24:59.540 you know,

00:24:59.760 let the free

00:25:00.360 market work

00:25:00.980 it out.

00:25:01.900 But I

00:25:02.620 would say

00:25:03.040 historically,

00:25:04.020 the free

00:25:04.440 market has

00:25:05.240 too many

00:25:06.140 imperfections

00:25:07.120 for that to

00:25:08.400 lead to a

00:25:08.900 public good.

00:25:10.700 I think that

00:25:11.460 the unions may

00:25:12.340 have destroyed

00:25:12.840 some companies.

00:25:13.760 There's no

00:25:14.560 doubt about

00:25:14.940 that.

00:25:15.860 But I

00:25:17.460 do think

00:25:17.920 the unions

00:25:18.520 balance power

00:25:20.600 in a way

00:25:21.120 that is

00:25:21.940 more productive

00:25:22.580 than not.

00:25:23.500 In effect,

00:25:24.260 the union

00:25:24.600 is competition,

00:25:25.600 isn't it?

00:25:27.400 Basically,

00:25:28.220 the union

00:25:28.700 forms a

00:25:30.300 sort of

00:25:30.940 a competition

00:25:31.680 with the

00:25:32.800 owners,

00:25:33.620 and I

00:25:34.940 like

00:25:35.240 competition.

00:25:35.940 unionize,

00:25:36.940 so while

00:25:38.540 you might

00:25:39.060 disagree with

00:25:40.380 unions because

00:25:41.160 they seem

00:25:41.880 to slow

00:25:43.840 down, I

00:25:44.420 don't know

00:25:44.600 what, the

00:25:45.320 economy,

00:25:47.080 I like

00:25:48.140 situations where

00:25:49.020 there's a

00:25:49.340 balance of

00:25:49.820 power.

00:25:51.440 So I like

00:25:52.120 giving employees

00:25:52.760 some power.

00:25:54.180 Doesn't work

00:25:54.900 in every

00:25:55.240 situation,

00:25:56.280 though.

00:25:56.980 And I

00:25:57.360 would suggest

00:25:57.960 that for the

00:25:58.600 same reason

00:25:59.100 we don't

00:25:59.580 allow military

00:26:01.160 people to

00:26:01.860 unionize,

00:26:02.560 we should

00:26:04.140 not allow

00:26:04.700 teachers to

00:26:05.420 unionize.

00:26:06.800 How many

00:26:07.520 of you

00:26:07.940 would agree

00:26:08.680 that the

00:26:11.160 military and

00:26:12.460 teachers would

00:26:13.620 be categories

00:26:14.780 that could

00:26:15.280 not unionize?

00:26:19.440 Almost

00:26:19.920 complete

00:26:20.400 agreement.

00:26:22.140 Now,

00:26:22.720 remember,

00:26:23.240 I'm pro-union.

00:26:24.760 I'm pro-union.

00:26:26.840 And,

00:26:27.360 however,

00:26:28.600 I would

00:26:29.060 accept as

00:26:30.280 an alternative

00:26:30.860 more

00:26:32.920 market

00:26:35.720 options.

00:26:37.920 I think

00:26:38.280 the free

00:26:38.660 market can

00:26:39.320 produce

00:26:40.540 education

00:26:41.620 better than

00:26:42.160 the public

00:26:42.800 market.

00:26:45.940 But not

00:26:46.600 yet.

00:26:48.140 I mean,

00:26:48.440 if today

00:26:49.260 you just

00:26:49.640 said,

00:26:49.900 all right,

00:26:50.300 you don't

00:26:50.580 have to go

00:26:50.940 to public

00:26:51.240 school,

00:26:51.660 you can

00:26:51.980 choose

00:26:53.200 yourself,

00:26:53.620 there wouldn't

00:26:53.900 be enough

00:26:54.320 structure to

00:26:55.280 compete.

00:26:57.760 But in

00:26:58.320 the long

00:26:58.660 run,

00:26:59.020 I don't

00:26:59.380 think there's

00:26:59.740 any doubt

00:27:00.440 that private

00:27:01.240 education would

00:27:02.020 be better

00:27:02.340 than public.

00:27:03.920 I don't

00:27:04.400 think there's

00:27:04.720 any doubt.

00:27:05.660 Because

00:27:06.000 competition

00:27:06.560 just gets

00:27:07.100 you there

00:27:07.380 over time.

00:27:08.500 It just

00:27:08.820 would take

00:27:09.120 a while.

00:27:10.340 All right,

00:27:10.800 so I

00:27:11.800 would say

00:27:12.100 we should

00:27:12.440 push for

00:27:13.040 making

00:27:13.440 teachers'

00:27:14.400 unions

00:27:14.760 illegal,

00:27:15.900 unless we

00:27:16.600 do the

00:27:17.060 Governor

00:27:18.020 Doug Ducey

00:27:18.720 method of

00:27:19.360 making sure

00:27:20.740 that you

00:27:21.000 can take

00:27:21.320 your money

00:27:21.640 elsewhere.

00:27:21.940 I see

00:27:26.220 a lot

00:27:26.500 of talk

00:27:26.900 about

00:27:27.500 the

00:27:28.940 election

00:27:29.340 rules,

00:27:30.360 and

00:27:30.520 Democrats

00:27:31.380 want to

00:27:31.760 have a

00:27:32.020 bunch

00:27:32.200 of

00:27:33.120 new

00:27:33.940 legislation

00:27:35.380 about

00:27:35.920 election

00:27:36.720 integrity,

00:27:37.880 and of

00:27:38.240 course the

00:27:38.620 Republicans

00:27:39.020 want,

00:27:39.960 they're still

00:27:40.320 talking about

00:27:40.800 the past

00:27:41.260 elections,

00:27:42.140 et cetera,

00:27:42.940 and nobody

00:27:44.300 can agree

00:27:44.720 on all

00:27:45.000 that stuff.

00:27:45.520 But here's

00:27:45.840 my take.

00:27:47.680 I don't

00:27:48.360 consider any

00:27:49.060 of our

00:27:49.440 leaders

00:27:49.860 legitimate.

00:27:51.060 I don't

00:27:54.500 consider any

00:27:55.340 of our

00:27:55.740 leaders

00:27:56.100 legitimate,

00:27:56.800 not Democrats,

00:27:57.700 not Republicans,

00:27:58.720 not Independents.

00:27:59.720 None of

00:28:00.140 them are

00:28:00.440 legitimate

00:28:00.860 because we

00:28:01.480 don't have

00:28:02.020 a transparent

00:28:02.740 election

00:28:03.220 system.

00:28:04.800 Now,

00:28:05.120 I'm going

00:28:05.380 to go

00:28:05.640 with the

00:28:05.920 flow.

00:28:06.680 I'm not

00:28:06.960 going to

00:28:07.580 start a

00:28:08.040 revolution,

00:28:08.980 because for

00:28:09.900 some reason

00:28:10.380 things are

00:28:10.840 cooking along

00:28:11.540 okay,

00:28:12.680 relative to

00:28:13.800 how they

00:28:14.720 could be.

00:28:15.720 But I

00:28:16.740 refuse to

00:28:17.400 consider any

00:28:18.000 of our

00:28:18.280 elected

00:28:18.600 leaders

00:28:19.020 legitimate.

00:28:21.060 Because

00:28:21.540 legitimate

00:28:22.040 would

00:28:22.720 infer

00:28:24.200 that we

00:28:26.240 knew they

00:28:26.660 were elected

00:28:27.240 with a

00:28:28.080 system that

00:28:29.600 worked.

00:28:29.940 We don't

00:28:30.220 know that.

00:28:31.360 We know

00:28:31.900 we have a

00:28:32.320 system that

00:28:32.800 can't tell

00:28:33.300 us that.

00:28:34.440 All we

00:28:34.880 know is

00:28:35.260 something goes

00:28:35.820 into a

00:28:36.200 black box

00:28:36.960 or votes,

00:28:39.080 and then what

00:28:39.540 comes out is a

00:28:40.360 politician,

00:28:40.960 but we don't

00:28:41.320 know what's

00:28:41.620 happening inside

00:28:42.240 the black

00:28:42.660 box.

00:28:43.900 So we can

00:28:44.700 certainly say

00:28:45.280 that the

00:28:45.940 system has

00:28:46.740 decided that

00:28:47.660 they are in

00:28:49.380 that job.

00:28:49.940 that's

00:28:52.100 true.

00:28:52.840 The system

00:28:53.540 did what

00:28:53.940 the system

00:28:54.380 does,

00:28:54.920 and somebody

00:28:55.600 sits in

00:28:56.040 that office

00:28:56.520 and does

00:28:57.060 that work.

00:28:58.420 So we

00:28:58.820 can acknowledge

00:28:59.360 the reality

00:29:00.140 that the

00:29:01.320 system is

00:29:01.940 selecting

00:29:02.500 leaders,

00:29:03.240 but I

00:29:03.820 don't think

00:29:04.200 that any

00:29:04.580 of us

00:29:04.820 should consider

00:29:05.340 those leaders

00:29:05.860 legitimate,

00:29:07.380 because we

00:29:08.440 would have

00:29:08.760 no way of

00:29:09.300 knowing if

00:29:09.940 they had

00:29:10.200 actually been

00:29:10.720 elected.

00:29:12.480 I mean,

00:29:14.300 just think

00:29:14.720 about this.

00:29:15.940 Given the

00:29:16.560 non-transparency

00:29:17.820 and non-auditable

00:29:19.760 nature of our

00:29:20.700 elections,

00:29:21.720 you can't

00:29:22.320 audit all of

00:29:22.940 it, you can

00:29:23.300 just audit

00:29:23.800 some pieces

00:29:24.600 of it.

00:29:25.780 Given that,

00:29:27.540 why would

00:29:29.160 anybody be

00:29:29.880 legitimately

00:29:30.820 elected?

00:29:32.360 So I think

00:29:33.200 I'm going to

00:29:33.520 start using

00:29:34.040 that kind

00:29:34.560 of language.

00:29:36.260 Yeah, I'm

00:29:36.520 going to

00:29:36.660 talk about

00:29:37.220 people who

00:29:38.040 are allegedly

00:29:38.660 elected,

00:29:39.980 because I

00:29:41.320 think we

00:29:41.580 need to

00:29:41.860 talk about

00:29:42.480 the elections

00:29:43.120 the same

00:29:43.580 way we

00:29:43.900 talk about

00:29:44.540 people who

00:29:45.100 are accused

00:29:45.700 of crimes.

00:29:47.440 There are

00:29:48.120 alleged

00:29:48.540 criminals,

00:29:50.080 and we

00:29:50.700 have alleged

00:29:51.320 elections.

00:29:53.100 We can't

00:29:54.020 confirm that

00:29:54.740 an election

00:29:55.180 happened.

00:29:57.560 Think about

00:29:58.380 that.

00:29:59.320 We can't

00:30:00.020 even confirm

00:30:00.640 if an

00:30:01.080 election

00:30:01.360 happened,

00:30:02.420 much less

00:30:03.040 who got

00:30:03.840 elected.

00:30:05.880 You know,

00:30:06.460 we're one

00:30:07.400 decision away

00:30:08.420 from even

00:30:09.120 knowing if

00:30:09.660 the right

00:30:10.000 person got

00:30:10.540 elected.

00:30:10.800 We don't

00:30:11.080 even know

00:30:11.380 if we had

00:30:11.800 one.

00:30:12.640 We literally

00:30:13.360 don't fucking

00:30:14.100 know if we

00:30:14.600 had an

00:30:14.960 election.

00:30:15.700 We only

00:30:16.360 know that

00:30:16.840 somebody told

00:30:17.480 us we

00:30:17.840 had one.

00:30:19.000 We don't

00:30:19.560 know what

00:30:19.920 happened.

00:30:21.560 And as

00:30:21.880 long as

00:30:22.140 that's the

00:30:22.460 case,

00:30:22.760 they are

00:30:23.060 alleged

00:30:23.460 leaders,

00:30:24.960 and that's

00:30:25.820 it.

00:30:26.580 And by

00:30:26.880 the way,

00:30:27.160 I'll say

00:30:27.460 the same

00:30:27.800 thing if

00:30:28.320 there's a

00:30:28.680 Republican

00:30:29.060 president,

00:30:30.240 as long

00:30:30.640 as the

00:30:31.000 system is

00:30:33.000 not

00:30:33.520 transparent.

00:30:34.880 So our

00:30:35.220 alleged

00:30:35.700 leaders.

00:30:39.800 Anyway,

00:30:40.440 let's talk

00:30:40.820 about

00:30:41.180 something

00:30:43.240 else.

00:30:44.000 Michael

00:30:44.520 Schellenberger is

00:30:45.260 pointing out

00:30:45.700 that

00:30:45.980 Bloomberg,

00:30:46.840 the

00:30:47.040 publication,

00:30:48.980 has now

00:30:51.480 accepted,

00:30:53.580 after being

00:30:54.360 very big on

00:30:55.400 green energy,

00:30:56.320 so you'd

00:30:56.760 expect the

00:30:57.320 Bloomberg

00:30:57.640 publication

00:30:58.400 being left

00:31:00.100 leaning,

00:31:00.680 that it would

00:31:01.020 have a lot

00:31:01.500 of green

00:31:02.200 energy and

00:31:03.220 solar power,

00:31:04.880 you know,

00:31:05.280 yay,

00:31:05.680 yay,

00:31:05.800 yay kind

00:31:06.200 of stuff.

00:31:06.560 but as

00:31:09.360 Michael

00:31:10.960 Schellenberger

00:31:11.420 says in

00:31:11.880 his tweet,

00:31:12.620 he says,

00:31:13.120 but now one

00:31:13.760 of the

00:31:13.980 biggest

00:31:14.280 boosters

00:31:14.720 of natural

00:31:15.460 gas and

00:31:16.120 renewables,

00:31:17.460 media giant

00:31:18.660 Bloomberg,

00:31:20.220 whose owner

00:31:20.620 Michael

00:31:20.960 Bloomberg is

00:31:21.920 directly

00:31:22.340 invested in

00:31:23.060 natural gas

00:31:23.580 and renewables,

00:31:24.720 has published

00:31:25.200 an article

00:31:25.720 conceding and

00:31:27.060 substantiating

00:31:28.100 almost every

00:31:28.840 single point

00:31:29.500 we made

00:31:30.340 over the

00:31:30.680 years.

00:31:31.620 Now we

00:31:31.960 meaning

00:31:32.360 Michael

00:31:33.220 Schellenberger

00:31:33.700 and his

00:31:34.220 group of

00:31:35.460 advocates

00:31:35.940 there.

00:31:37.000 And here's

00:31:38.840 what the

00:31:39.280 article says,

00:31:39.920 it says,

00:31:40.280 Europe has

00:31:40.780 sleepwalked

00:31:41.540 into an

00:31:42.000 energy crisis

00:31:42.800 that could

00:31:43.800 last years,

00:31:45.900 screams the

00:31:46.500 headline.

00:31:47.100 The article

00:31:47.520 concludes,

00:31:48.380 Schellenberger

00:31:49.220 says,

00:31:49.820 the article

00:31:50.220 concludes that

00:31:51.020 the crisis

00:31:51.500 was years

00:31:52.280 in the

00:31:52.580 making because

00:31:53.740 Europe is

00:31:54.280 quote,

00:31:54.600 shutting down

00:31:55.200 coal-fired

00:31:55.860 electricity

00:31:56.340 plants and

00:31:56.940 increasing

00:31:57.340 reliance on

00:31:58.060 renewables.

00:31:59.400 So suddenly,

00:32:00.680 it's all

00:32:01.580 obvious in

00:32:02.140 hindsight.

00:32:03.700 So from

00:32:05.360 the very

00:32:05.720 beginning,

00:32:06.820 the Michael

00:32:07.420 Schellenbergers

00:32:08.440 and lots

00:32:09.560 of other

00:32:09.880 people,

00:32:10.540 lots of

00:32:11.020 other people

00:32:11.520 were saying

00:32:12.420 if you

00:32:13.060 replace

00:32:14.260 reliable

00:32:14.920 sources of

00:32:15.660 energy with

00:32:16.300 unreliable

00:32:17.180 sources,

00:32:18.480 you might

00:32:19.300 get unreliable

00:32:20.540 energy.

00:32:23.000 Weirdly,

00:32:24.320 that was

00:32:25.980 disputed.

00:32:27.460 If you

00:32:28.340 replace

00:32:28.820 reliable

00:32:30.500 stuff with

00:32:31.100 unreliable

00:32:31.820 stuff,

00:32:32.720 by its

00:32:33.220 nature,

00:32:33.700 it's not

00:32:34.780 even an

00:32:35.160 opinion.

00:32:36.660 That's

00:32:37.120 something

00:32:37.380 that nobody

00:32:37.800 would even

00:32:38.200 disagree

00:32:38.560 with.

00:32:39.600 Is solar

00:32:40.120 power,

00:32:41.280 does it

00:32:41.940 work at

00:32:42.260 night?

00:32:43.440 Nobody

00:32:43.920 says yes

00:32:44.480 to that.

00:32:45.320 How about

00:32:45.620 that wind

00:32:46.020 power?

00:32:46.840 Does it

00:32:47.180 work when

00:32:47.540 the wind

00:32:47.800 isn't

00:32:48.080 blowing?

00:32:48.880 Again,

00:32:49.860 nobody

00:32:50.280 says it

00:32:50.740 does.

00:32:52.000 So you

00:32:52.380 have a

00:32:52.680 situation

00:32:53.140 where people

00:32:54.040 intentionally

00:32:55.780 and aggressively

00:32:56.800 switched from

00:32:58.360 reliable power

00:32:59.480 to unreliable

00:33:00.420 power,

00:33:01.280 knew they

00:33:01.840 were doing

00:33:02.260 it, and

00:33:03.380 when they

00:33:03.720 were done,

00:33:04.180 they said,

00:33:05.040 oh, shit,

00:33:06.400 our power

00:33:06.980 is not

00:33:07.360 reliable.

00:33:11.880 But we're

00:33:13.880 at least

00:33:14.140 seeing a

00:33:14.520 turn in

00:33:15.240 the opinion

00:33:15.920 makers,

00:33:16.960 the

00:33:17.080 Bloombergs

00:33:17.720 of the

00:33:17.960 world,

00:33:18.300 realizing

00:33:18.720 that a

00:33:20.420 lot of

00:33:20.660 the green

00:33:21.460 push was

00:33:22.800 based on

00:33:23.500 overtly

00:33:24.620 impractical

00:33:25.500 ideas.

00:33:26.040 things on

00:33:28.160 the surface

00:33:28.720 were

00:33:28.980 impractical.

00:33:30.920 Like,

00:33:31.220 just describing

00:33:31.980 the plan

00:33:32.680 tells you

00:33:33.200 it won't

00:33:33.520 work.

00:33:35.100 You know,

00:33:35.620 if you have

00:33:36.000 a plan

00:33:36.520 that you

00:33:37.440 know won't

00:33:37.900 work because

00:33:38.540 the not

00:33:39.000 working part

00:33:39.600 is built

00:33:40.060 into the

00:33:40.560 description

00:33:41.040 of the

00:33:41.380 plan,

00:33:42.240 you really

00:33:43.300 have a

00:33:43.680 problem.

00:33:44.940 Hey,

00:33:45.180 let's

00:33:45.400 replace our

00:33:46.240 reliable

00:33:47.040 energy with

00:33:47.840 unreliable

00:33:48.640 energy.

00:33:50.380 Did you

00:33:51.000 need to

00:33:51.380 debate that?

00:33:52.040 because the

00:33:55.680 plan is

00:33:56.360 the debate.

00:33:57.620 The plan

00:33:58.140 is telling

00:33:58.540 you it's

00:33:58.860 not going

00:33:59.160 to work.

00:34:00.400 Let's

00:34:00.660 cure our

00:34:02.720 headaches by

00:34:03.580 shooting

00:34:04.940 ourselves in

00:34:05.540 the foot.

00:34:06.960 I mean,

00:34:07.200 you know

00:34:07.500 from the

00:34:07.860 plan it

00:34:08.320 won't work.

00:34:09.020 You don't

00:34:09.260 have to do

00:34:09.620 research.

00:34:10.780 You don't

00:34:11.120 have to go

00:34:11.500 too deep

00:34:11.940 on that

00:34:12.280 one.

00:34:13.520 All right.

00:34:16.820 Short

00:34:17.260 update on

00:34:18.660 what I call

00:34:19.200 the causeless

00:34:20.100 anger that

00:34:21.400 people have

00:34:21.840 had against

00:34:22.360 me.

00:34:23.660 Now,

00:34:24.240 I'm not

00:34:25.160 even going

00:34:25.460 to talk

00:34:25.660 about the

00:34:26.100 pandemic

00:34:26.580 stuff.

00:34:27.020 I'm just

00:34:27.260 going to

00:34:27.420 talk about

00:34:27.780 the psychology

00:34:28.680 and people's

00:34:29.680 reaction to

00:34:30.220 me.

00:34:32.500 And I

00:34:33.220 got the

00:34:33.940 best hypothesis

00:34:35.100 about what

00:34:35.740 was behind

00:34:36.240 it.

00:34:37.000 Now,

00:34:37.200 what's really

00:34:37.540 behind it

00:34:38.020 is there's

00:34:38.540 this mass

00:34:39.860 formation

00:34:40.440 psychosis

00:34:41.120 thing.

00:34:42.140 The people

00:34:42.520 are all

00:34:42.920 flipped out

00:34:43.460 and crazy

00:34:43.920 and they're

00:34:44.400 not thinking

00:34:44.880 well.

00:34:46.020 And so

00:34:46.360 because I

00:34:46.880 have non-binary

00:34:47.960 opinions,

00:34:49.280 meaning I

00:34:49.780 don't map

00:34:50.400 to one

00:34:51.180 extreme or

00:34:51.820 the other

00:34:52.160 on pandemic

00:34:53.560 stuff,

00:34:54.660 that a lot

00:34:56.560 of people

00:34:56.840 assume I'm

00:34:57.340 on the

00:34:57.560 other side

00:34:58.120 and then

00:34:59.180 they get

00:34:59.460 mad without

00:35:00.420 knowing

00:35:00.840 anything about

00:35:01.400 my opinions,

00:35:02.340 but they're

00:35:02.920 pretty sure

00:35:03.500 they're mad

00:35:03.940 at me,

00:35:04.260 they just

00:35:04.580 don't know

00:35:04.980 why.

00:35:06.120 And so

00:35:06.340 for the

00:35:06.540 last 24

00:35:07.100 hours I've

00:35:07.620 been asking

00:35:08.040 people,

00:35:08.980 could anybody

00:35:09.480 explain just

00:35:11.460 anything,

00:35:12.400 anything that

00:35:13.880 you disagree

00:35:14.420 with that is

00:35:16.200 making you

00:35:16.680 concerned?

00:35:17.120 And the

00:35:19.100 experiment was

00:35:19.780 fascinating because

00:35:21.120 nobody could.

00:35:22.400 You would think

00:35:23.100 it would just

00:35:23.400 be like a

00:35:23.860 straight sentence.

00:35:24.940 You said

00:35:25.520 X, X is

00:35:27.220 wrong, I

00:35:29.140 hate you.

00:35:30.620 Nobody could

00:35:31.140 do it.

00:35:32.180 It was all

00:35:32.580 stuff like,

00:35:33.980 I guess

00:35:35.540 Brett Weinstein

00:35:36.400 used an

00:35:37.220 Alice in

00:35:37.980 Wonderland

00:35:38.580 quote and

00:35:40.340 just said

00:35:40.800 that my

00:35:41.560 situation was

00:35:42.400 curiouser and

00:35:43.380 curiouser, to

00:35:44.800 which I

00:35:45.120 said, what

00:35:46.680 situation, what

00:35:48.920 topic, what

00:35:51.340 are you talking

00:35:51.800 about?

00:35:53.060 And then

00:35:53.680 somebody else

00:35:54.220 backed him

00:35:54.720 up.

00:35:56.720 Backed him

00:35:57.360 up?

00:35:57.900 I don't even

00:35:58.540 know what the

00:35:58.840 topic is.

00:36:00.040 What are we

00:36:00.560 even talking

00:36:01.020 about?

00:36:01.880 I know people

00:36:02.460 are disappointed,

00:36:03.800 annoyed, turned

00:36:05.340 off, angry, all

00:36:07.800 kinds of

00:36:08.240 emotions, but

00:36:09.520 literally nobody,

00:36:10.640 literally nobody

00:36:13.900 can even tell

00:36:15.560 me what it's

00:36:16.040 about.

00:36:17.300 And then I

00:36:17.680 heard a

00:36:18.400 hypothesis today

00:36:20.720 that I feel

00:36:22.600 like might be

00:36:23.220 the right one.

00:36:24.700 I'm going to

00:36:25.060 run it by you.

00:36:27.100 See if this

00:36:28.080 sounds like why

00:36:28.920 people are mad

00:36:29.840 at me.

00:36:32.180 And this came

00:36:33.000 from Twitter

00:36:34.020 user Metal

00:36:34.920 Balls, who's

00:36:36.260 probably watching

00:36:36.880 right now.

00:36:37.820 Hello, Metal

00:36:38.420 Balls.

00:36:38.860 And this

00:36:41.340 explanation sounded

00:36:42.200 pretty good.

00:36:43.540 She said, it

00:36:44.700 sounds like you

00:36:45.420 are shaming

00:36:45.980 people for

00:36:47.060 something they

00:36:47.700 wouldn't be able

00:36:48.420 to control

00:36:49.120 either way.

00:36:50.500 Ordinary

00:36:51.000 perception versus

00:36:52.020 hallucination.

00:36:53.760 After you

00:36:54.200 intentionally ferret

00:36:55.160 out these

00:36:55.640 reactions, you

00:36:56.880 demean people for

00:36:57.840 having them.

00:36:58.640 It's hard to

00:36:59.620 watch.

00:37:03.000 How does

00:37:03.800 that sound?

00:37:06.640 Does that

00:37:07.420 sound, uh,

00:37:08.860 sound about

00:37:10.760 right?

00:37:14.020 I feel like

00:37:15.320 this, you

00:37:15.780 know, it's

00:37:16.420 not 100% of

00:37:17.280 the story.

00:37:18.300 Some people

00:37:18.800 just disagree

00:37:19.440 on facts.

00:37:20.600 But I

00:37:22.540 feel like

00:37:23.140 this is

00:37:24.320 true.

00:37:25.420 And you've

00:37:26.900 all noticed

00:37:27.420 me blaming

00:37:28.320 my critics of

00:37:29.180 hallucinating,

00:37:29.920 right?

00:37:30.160 You've all

00:37:30.540 seen that?

00:37:31.660 That I

00:37:32.460 continually tell

00:37:34.200 my critics

00:37:35.060 they're

00:37:35.320 hallucinating?

00:37:35.920 Now, here's

00:37:37.640 the problem.

00:37:39.340 It's

00:37:39.900 literally what's

00:37:40.680 happening.

00:37:41.740 When I say

00:37:42.600 somebody's

00:37:43.080 hallucinating,

00:37:43.940 I'm not,

00:37:44.520 that's not

00:37:45.000 hyperbole.

00:37:46.140 I mean

00:37:46.680 actual,

00:37:47.440 literal

00:37:47.660 hallucination.

00:37:49.300 That they

00:37:49.780 have a

00:37:50.740 memory or

00:37:51.480 a belief in

00:37:52.620 something that

00:37:53.180 just doesn't

00:37:53.780 exist in the

00:37:54.500 real world.

00:37:54.940 Now, here's

00:37:56.140 the problem.

00:37:58.460 What should

00:37:59.180 I say when

00:38:00.600 somebody's

00:38:01.160 hallucinating?

00:38:02.180 And it's

00:38:02.480 obvious, and

00:38:04.000 I'm interacting

00:38:05.180 with them, so

00:38:05.860 our opinions of

00:38:07.260 each other are

00:38:07.900 relevant.

00:38:08.780 What should

00:38:09.240 I say?

00:38:11.240 I think

00:38:11.820 the, here's

00:38:12.460 the problem.

00:38:13.640 The problem

00:38:14.160 isn't, I

00:38:14.700 don't think the

00:38:15.240 problem is

00:38:15.660 exactly the

00:38:16.700 way I'm

00:38:17.040 saying it.

00:38:18.560 I think the

00:38:19.420 problem is

00:38:19.880 it's

00:38:20.160 uncomfortable.

00:38:22.380 How would

00:38:23.120 you feel if

00:38:23.860 somebody told

00:38:24.460 you you

00:38:24.900 were

00:38:25.060 hallucinating

00:38:25.820 on something

00:38:26.400 that you

00:38:26.680 were pretty

00:38:27.180 sure you

00:38:27.620 weren't

00:38:27.840 hallucinating

00:38:28.340 about?

00:38:29.240 How would

00:38:29.580 it feel?

00:38:31.140 Like really

00:38:31.900 shitty, wouldn't

00:38:32.520 it?

00:38:33.820 It'd feel

00:38:34.440 really bad.

00:38:35.800 And wouldn't

00:38:36.160 you be mad

00:38:36.780 at the person

00:38:37.320 who called

00:38:38.580 you out for

00:38:39.120 hallucinating in

00:38:40.000 public?

00:38:40.940 Because remember,

00:38:41.780 I do it in

00:38:42.220 public.

00:38:43.460 Wouldn't you

00:38:43.840 be mad?

00:38:46.140 I imagine

00:38:46.920 I would.

00:38:47.960 I imagine

00:38:48.640 I would if

00:38:49.460 somebody said

00:38:49.900 it about me.

00:38:51.040 In fact,

00:38:51.340 people have

00:38:51.740 said it about

00:38:52.140 me.

00:38:52.320 I don't like

00:38:52.740 it at all.

00:38:53.120 Yeah,

00:38:55.080 somebody says

00:38:55.460 the problem

00:38:55.880 is your

00:38:56.200 delivery.

00:38:58.640 Now,

00:38:59.160 keep in

00:38:59.600 mind that

00:39:00.900 because I

00:39:01.420 do this

00:39:01.860 publicly,

00:39:03.680 here's a

00:39:04.560 nuance that

00:39:05.140 maybe not

00:39:05.720 everybody's

00:39:06.160 aware of.

00:39:07.280 Do you

00:39:07.720 know that

00:39:08.080 I'm aware

00:39:08.660 that I

00:39:09.060 annoy people?

00:39:10.620 You know

00:39:11.220 that,

00:39:11.500 right?

00:39:12.280 Do you

00:39:12.600 know that

00:39:12.900 I do it

00:39:13.260 intentionally?

00:39:16.540 How many

00:39:17.120 of you know

00:39:17.460 I do it

00:39:17.840 intentionally?

00:39:18.280 And you

00:39:19.900 know that

00:39:20.280 I could

00:39:20.700 modify my

00:39:21.600 approach,

00:39:22.580 right?

00:39:23.460 It wouldn't

00:39:23.740 be hard.

00:39:24.660 It's not

00:39:25.020 like I'm

00:39:25.400 locked in.

00:39:26.540 If I

00:39:27.080 wanted to

00:39:27.540 just be

00:39:28.080 Mr.

00:39:28.820 Rogers

00:39:29.100 every day,

00:39:30.220 just say

00:39:30.580 everything's

00:39:31.020 fine,

00:39:31.480 everything's

00:39:31.880 good,

00:39:32.660 I could

00:39:33.040 do that.

00:39:33.860 It'd be

00:39:34.160 easy.

00:39:35.140 In fact,

00:39:35.600 I'd do

00:39:35.840 that with

00:39:36.240 Dilbert.

00:39:37.180 For 30

00:39:38.280 some years

00:39:39.040 or whatever,

00:39:40.660 I've published

00:39:41.300 a sarcastic

00:39:42.780 comic every

00:39:43.480 day that

00:39:44.480 doesn't seem

00:39:44.980 to make

00:39:45.280 anybody mad.

00:39:45.960 nobody's

00:39:47.840 mad at

00:39:48.140 that.

00:39:49.260 Because

00:39:49.700 it's easy.

00:39:51.100 It's very

00:39:51.700 easy to

00:39:52.080 be non-provocative.

00:39:55.680 But you

00:39:56.240 know I

00:39:56.500 do it

00:39:56.720 intentionally,

00:39:57.280 right?

00:39:57.640 Do you

00:39:57.900 know why?

00:40:00.140 Do you

00:40:00.660 know why

00:40:01.100 I do it

00:40:01.520 intentionally?

00:40:06.220 Attention?

00:40:07.760 Attention's

00:40:08.140 almost there,

00:40:09.360 but there's

00:40:09.840 like a

00:40:10.160 deeper level

00:40:10.760 of insight.

00:40:14.760 It's the

00:40:15.340 X factor.

00:40:15.960 The reason

00:40:17.980 you watch

00:40:18.420 me is not

00:40:19.460 because you

00:40:19.920 agree with

00:40:20.360 me.

00:40:21.000 If all

00:40:21.520 you did

00:40:21.840 is get

00:40:22.140 on here

00:40:22.460 and agree

00:40:22.860 with me

00:40:23.220 all day

00:40:23.520 long,

00:40:24.240 well,

00:40:24.600 you know,

00:40:24.860 maybe I

00:40:25.180 could have

00:40:25.480 a show

00:40:25.740 like that.

00:40:26.920 But it's

00:40:27.560 not one

00:40:27.880 I'd be

00:40:28.120 interested

00:40:28.460 in.

00:40:29.580 And it's

00:40:32.200 not what

00:40:32.540 I do.

00:40:34.060 So what

00:40:34.480 I do is

00:40:35.440 cause you

00:40:36.200 what I'm

00:40:37.580 trying to

00:40:37.960 do,

00:40:38.460 and I

00:40:38.760 think

00:40:38.960 successfully,

00:40:40.020 unfortunately,

00:40:40.560 for a lot

00:40:40.880 of you,

00:40:41.340 what I'm

00:40:41.760 trying to

00:40:42.120 do is

00:40:42.360 make you

00:40:42.720 uncomfortable

00:40:43.240 with your

00:40:44.600 existing

00:40:45.000 opinion.

00:40:45.420 I'm not

00:40:47.840 trying to

00:40:48.220 make you

00:40:48.740 agree with

00:40:49.820 me.

00:40:50.600 I'm trying

00:40:50.940 to make

00:40:51.240 you

00:40:51.380 uncomfortable.

00:40:52.800 Now,

00:40:53.100 for some

00:40:53.460 people,

00:40:54.400 that discomfort

00:40:55.100 is actually

00:40:55.660 a plus.

00:40:57.200 Like,

00:40:57.520 they like

00:40:58.220 being knocked

00:41:00.260 off their

00:41:00.880 balance point,

00:41:02.760 just to see if

00:41:03.380 they can get

00:41:03.780 back on.

00:41:05.360 Right?

00:41:05.600 And then

00:41:06.260 there are

00:41:06.420 other people

00:41:06.820 who just

00:41:07.260 really don't

00:41:07.900 like that

00:41:08.360 feeling.

00:41:08.960 They like

00:41:09.480 the feeling

00:41:09.880 of just

00:41:10.960 being confident

00:41:11.660 in their

00:41:12.120 opinion and

00:41:13.080 go with it.

00:41:14.300 So I

00:41:14.820 would recommend

00:41:15.600 that if you're

00:41:16.760 one of the

00:41:17.040 people who

00:41:17.480 don't like

00:41:18.200 your existing

00:41:19.260 opinion

00:41:19.640 challenged,

00:41:20.340 this is

00:41:20.660 really the

00:41:21.120 wrong content

00:41:21.940 for you.

00:41:23.340 But if you

00:41:23.980 like to

00:41:24.420 feel challenged

00:41:25.780 and uncomfortable,

00:41:28.020 that's what I'm

00:41:28.980 trying to

00:41:29.460 deliver.

00:41:29.740 So I do

00:41:30.900 give you

00:41:31.280 opinions with

00:41:32.000 attitude.

00:41:33.360 The attitude

00:41:34.000 feels like

00:41:36.240 insulting my

00:41:37.920 base.

00:41:39.280 And I'm

00:41:39.980 aware of that

00:41:40.600 and I do it

00:41:41.160 intentionally.

00:41:43.160 For effect.

00:41:45.040 Because if

00:41:45.740 you're insulted,

00:41:46.540 you're going to

00:41:46.840 pay attention

00:41:47.360 and you're

00:41:47.820 going to

00:41:47.980 fight back.

00:41:49.220 And that's

00:41:49.600 what I want.

00:41:50.560 I want you

00:41:51.040 to fight back.

00:41:52.000 Because it's

00:41:52.540 the fighting

00:41:52.940 back that gets

00:41:53.660 you to wrestle

00:41:55.000 with your own

00:41:55.620 opinion as well

00:41:56.380 as mine.

00:41:57.280 By the way,

00:41:57.720 one of the

00:41:58.080 best advices

00:41:59.440 pieces of

00:42:01.120 advice you'll

00:42:01.700 ever hear,

00:42:02.460 is if you

00:42:03.380 want to

00:42:03.780 clarify your

00:42:04.540 opinion,

00:42:05.000 write it

00:42:05.320 down to

00:42:06.500 show to

00:42:07.080 somebody else.

00:42:08.180 You will

00:42:08.820 be amazed

00:42:09.520 how often

00:42:10.760 your opinion

00:42:11.300 can't be

00:42:11.840 written down.

00:42:13.440 And the

00:42:14.040 reason is

00:42:14.440 because it

00:42:14.740 doesn't make

00:42:15.160 sense.

00:42:16.260 I learned

00:42:16.860 this when I

00:42:17.440 was writing

00:42:17.800 business cases

00:42:18.660 for a big

00:42:19.280 corporation.

00:42:20.460 So it would

00:42:20.780 be my job

00:42:21.420 to take

00:42:21.820 the leadership's

00:42:23.220 argument that

00:42:24.680 we should do

00:42:25.220 X or Y

00:42:25.820 and boil it

00:42:27.980 down to a

00:42:28.440 summary.

00:42:29.440 So it

00:42:29.820 could be

00:42:30.120 spread to

00:42:30.800 other people.

00:42:32.200 And sometimes

00:42:32.960 when I would

00:42:33.960 go to write

00:42:34.580 down the

00:42:35.400 leadership's

00:42:36.140 opinion,

00:42:36.960 it couldn't

00:42:37.440 be done.

00:42:38.740 It couldn't

00:42:39.320 be written

00:42:39.700 because it

00:42:40.700 didn't make

00:42:41.000 sense.

00:42:41.680 But you

00:42:42.000 didn't really

00:42:42.360 realize it

00:42:42.900 until you

00:42:43.180 had it on

00:42:43.540 paper.

00:42:44.120 You're like,

00:42:44.420 wait a minute.

00:42:45.620 Now that I'm

00:42:46.100 looking at it

00:42:46.540 on paper,

00:42:48.180 this doesn't

00:42:48.660 even make

00:42:48.980 sense.

00:42:50.240 And actually

00:42:51.040 some projects

00:42:51.720 you just have

00:42:52.200 to stop.

00:42:53.340 You're like,

00:42:53.660 I don't know.

00:42:54.780 I don't have

00:42:55.180 an argument.

00:42:56.000 This doesn't

00:42:56.400 even make

00:42:56.720 sense.

00:42:57.920 So what

00:42:58.660 you'll find

00:42:59.080 is that the

00:42:59.680 process of

00:43:00.380 making you

00:43:01.180 reply to

00:43:01.840 me, which

00:43:03.100 is what

00:43:03.440 getting you

00:43:03.880 angry does,

00:43:04.920 those of you

00:43:05.440 who don't

00:43:05.780 just sign

00:43:06.580 off, but

00:43:07.560 those of you

00:43:08.040 who get

00:43:08.260 angry and

00:43:08.840 feel like

00:43:09.220 you have

00:43:09.520 to reply

00:43:11.100 are now

00:43:12.720 forced to

00:43:13.320 put your

00:43:13.620 opinion in

00:43:14.180 a tweet.

00:43:16.020 And for

00:43:16.260 some of

00:43:16.740 you, but

00:43:17.200 not all

00:43:17.580 of you,

00:43:18.700 the process

00:43:19.520 of writing

00:43:20.080 down your

00:43:20.500 opinion and

00:43:21.020 looking at

00:43:21.520 it probably

00:43:23.140 has an

00:43:23.760 effect on

00:43:24.260 you, as

00:43:25.620 in, oh,

00:43:26.500 I just

00:43:26.760 wrote down

00:43:27.100 my opinion

00:43:27.580 and that

00:43:28.660 doesn't look

00:43:29.060 so convincing

00:43:29.640 at all.

00:43:32.220 So, here's

00:43:33.640 what you need

00:43:34.100 to know.

00:43:35.540 I don't

00:43:36.300 dislike you.

00:43:38.280 That's not

00:43:38.920 why I do

00:43:39.340 any of this.

00:43:40.980 I actually

00:43:41.720 love my

00:43:42.200 audience.

00:43:43.720 I don't

00:43:44.240 know if that

00:43:44.580 ever comes

00:43:45.060 through, but

00:43:46.000 part of the

00:43:46.560 reason that I

00:43:47.140 spend so much

00:43:47.840 time doing

00:43:48.320 this is that

00:43:49.580 I get a

00:43:50.180 genuine joy

00:43:51.160 from the

00:43:52.580 interaction.

00:43:53.060 it's not

00:43:54.180 just about

00:43:55.200 attention, it's

00:43:55.940 about the

00:43:56.260 interaction.

00:43:57.280 I like

00:43:57.660 attention, there's

00:43:58.600 no doubt about

00:43:59.100 that, but it's

00:44:00.280 not about all

00:44:00.820 that.

00:44:02.180 So, should I

00:44:03.900 challenge you by

00:44:04.760 saying that you're

00:44:05.500 hallucinating, just

00:44:06.760 know this, it's

00:44:08.360 not personal, it's

00:44:10.080 never personal, and

00:44:11.840 if it's personal, it's

00:44:12.760 because I want to

00:44:13.240 help you, it's

00:44:14.700 because I want you

00:44:15.360 to, you know,

00:44:16.980 wrestle with your

00:44:17.620 own opinion, maybe

00:44:19.340 you can improve

00:44:19.920 it.

00:44:20.880 Do I imagine

00:44:21.900 that all of my

00:44:22.640 opinions are

00:44:23.240 correct, and my

00:44:24.940 critics are

00:44:25.580 wrong?

00:44:25.980 Do you think I

00:44:26.520 think that?

00:44:28.280 You've watched

00:44:28.960 me, you know, talk

00:44:30.040 with my

00:44:30.620 characteristic

00:44:31.820 overconfidence,

00:44:33.380 and I've told you

00:44:34.620 directly that I

00:44:35.480 project more

00:44:37.880 confidence than I

00:44:39.240 have, intentionally,

00:44:41.360 because it's good

00:44:42.560 technique.

00:44:44.380 No, I don't think

00:44:45.340 I'm right all the

00:44:45.940 time.

00:44:48.360 I'm not even close

00:44:49.360 to that.

00:44:49.660 In fact, my

00:44:50.580 entire thesis is

00:44:51.800 that the people

00:44:52.400 who think they're

00:44:53.120 right can't tell.

00:44:54.680 Why would I be

00:44:55.320 different?

00:44:56.580 But what we can

00:44:58.600 do is bash ideas

00:45:00.260 against each other

00:45:01.120 until, you know, we

00:45:02.220 all get smarter.

00:45:03.480 I think that's

00:45:04.300 happening.

00:45:05.760 And I'll say it

00:45:06.880 again, I believe

00:45:07.600 that my audience

00:45:08.360 for these live

00:45:09.060 streams, not so

00:45:10.720 much for the

00:45:11.280 Twitter stuff,

00:45:12.020 because that's

00:45:13.440 quick takes and

00:45:14.420 just making people

00:45:15.700 angry usually, but

00:45:16.800 for the longer

00:45:17.360 form stuff, I

00:45:19.420 will say with

00:45:20.240 great confidence,

00:45:22.220 my characteristic

00:45:23.320 overconfidence,

00:45:24.800 that this is the

00:45:26.620 most well-informed

00:45:28.280 audience in

00:45:30.360 America.

00:45:31.520 That's what I

00:45:32.000 think.

00:45:32.980 What do you

00:45:33.600 think?

00:45:34.360 I think you're

00:45:34.940 the most well-informed

00:45:36.100 audience in terms

00:45:37.560 of how to think

00:45:38.200 about stuff, not

00:45:39.280 just the data, but

00:45:40.880 how to grasp,

00:45:43.680 grapple with it,

00:45:44.500 how to wrestle

00:45:46.240 with it.

00:45:47.160 That's what I

00:45:47.800 think.

00:45:49.500 So anyway, metal

00:45:50.680 balls, good

00:45:51.600 input.

00:45:52.680 I think that is

00:45:53.620 what's happening.

00:45:54.160 I think the word

00:45:54.660 hallucination is

00:45:56.220 real triggering, but

00:45:57.920 I'm not going to

00:45:58.600 stop doing it,

00:46:00.060 because I would

00:46:01.140 prefer your anger

00:46:02.320 over your

00:46:03.980 disinterest, if I

00:46:08.000 may be honest.

00:46:10.960 And I think the

00:46:11.820 real problem is

00:46:12.380 that the problem

00:46:13.700 is that the

00:46:14.200 truth is shocking.

00:46:15.020 The truth is

00:46:16.260 that we

00:46:17.260 hallucinate so

00:46:18.220 easily, all of

00:46:19.080 us, me

00:46:20.240 included, we

00:46:21.260 hallucinate so

00:46:22.060 easily that

00:46:23.780 facing that

00:46:24.920 reality is really

00:46:25.740 painful.

00:46:27.440 And I sort of

00:46:28.300 make people face

00:46:29.100 reality that they

00:46:30.240 literally imagine

00:46:31.200 something about me.

00:46:36.360 Dooley says,

00:46:37.340 Adams was mind

00:46:38.300 reading when he

00:46:39.100 said Rob was

00:46:39.820 having fun killing

00:46:40.800 Big Laden, and

00:46:42.260 owes an apology.

00:46:43.080 Well, if that

00:46:46.480 had been serious

00:46:47.600 and also wrong, I

00:46:50.860 would apologize.

00:46:52.440 But my mind

00:46:53.980 reading of what it

00:46:54.860 would feel like to

00:46:55.740 shoot Bin Laden

00:46:56.520 multiple times, you

00:46:58.940 have to, you

00:46:59.520 should assume that

00:47:00.200 that was how I

00:47:01.400 would have felt in

00:47:02.080 the situation.

00:47:04.040 Don't assume that

00:47:05.080 that's mind

00:47:05.740 reading.

00:47:06.820 That's more just

00:47:07.560 talking.

00:47:07.960 Craig says,

00:47:12.840 you used to be

00:47:13.300 entertaining, and

00:47:14.760 then you stopped.

00:47:15.820 That's disappointing,

00:47:16.840 not angriving.

00:47:17.860 Well, I think what

00:47:18.640 you're seeing is that

00:47:19.520 when you take Trump

00:47:20.660 out of the headlines,

00:47:22.340 that the news

00:47:23.660 becomes less

00:47:24.320 entertaining.

00:47:25.840 I would imagine

00:47:26.800 that I'm about the

00:47:27.900 same, but the news

00:47:29.040 itself is just way

00:47:30.020 that.

00:47:30.280 Have you seen the

00:47:31.080 ratings for the

00:47:31.840 news?

00:47:33.260 The news itself,

00:47:34.400 the ratings are

00:47:35.040 through the floor.

00:47:36.260 Just through the

00:47:39.000 floor.

00:47:40.340 So, yeah, the

00:47:41.520 entertainment value

00:47:43.440 of the news just

00:47:44.320 dropped when

00:47:45.100 Twitter was out of

00:47:46.220 it.

00:47:46.600 All right, well,

00:47:46.820 let's get to

00:47:47.320 something interesting.

00:47:49.400 I would like to

00:47:50.300 give you one point

00:47:51.560 to consider about

00:47:53.580 Dr. Malone, and

00:47:55.580 then we'll be done

00:47:56.300 with him, okay?

00:47:58.200 My understanding,

00:47:59.320 and I'll take a

00:47:59.880 fact check on this,

00:48:01.020 Andre Speckhouse

00:48:01.980 says this about

00:48:05.260 Dr. Malone's

00:48:06.680 appearance on

00:48:07.340 Joe Rogan, that

00:48:08.920 apparently Dr.

00:48:10.680 Malone claimed

00:48:11.440 that ivermectin

00:48:12.940 and some secret

00:48:14.700 unknown early

00:48:15.860 treatment package

00:48:16.760 that included

00:48:17.860 ivermectin,

00:48:18.640 presumably,

00:48:19.840 totally crushed

00:48:21.040 COVID in

00:48:22.720 Uttar Pradesh,

00:48:24.240 a state in

00:48:25.060 India.

00:48:26.000 How many of you

00:48:26.800 have heard that,

00:48:27.900 either from Dr.

00:48:29.040 Malone or not?

00:48:31.380 Now, oh, don't

00:48:32.480 get ahead of me.

00:48:33.360 Don't get ahead of

00:48:33.840 me.

00:48:34.200 Some of you

00:48:34.740 are questioning

00:48:35.280 whether Andres

00:48:36.340 Backhouse is a

00:48:37.380 good source.

00:48:38.440 You don't have

00:48:39.020 to for this.

00:48:40.700 You don't have

00:48:41.280 to.

00:48:42.140 I'm not going to

00:48:42.880 tell you he's a

00:48:43.360 good source or a

00:48:43.940 bad source.

00:48:44.400 That's irrelevant.

00:48:45.740 Here's all I'm

00:48:46.320 going to ask of

00:48:46.860 you.

00:48:48.140 Let us put our

00:48:49.300 disagreement, if we

00:48:50.280 have any, about

00:48:51.640 Dr. Malone into

00:48:53.460 this one question.

00:48:55.320 First, fact

00:48:56.360 check it.

00:48:58.040 So we'll start by

00:48:59.000 fact checking it

00:48:59.740 because we don't

00:49:00.240 want to make a

00:49:01.000 judgment on

00:49:01.400 something you

00:49:01.800 didn't say.

00:49:03.940 Now, would

00:49:07.080 you, is it

00:49:08.040 a, is it

00:49:09.920 fair to say

00:49:10.640 that Dr.

00:49:12.000 Malone said

00:49:12.780 that ivermectin

00:49:13.700 was a major

00:49:16.540 cause of

00:49:17.660 utter product

00:49:18.460 crushing their

00:49:19.600 COVID?

00:49:22.160 Is that, it's,

00:49:24.520 did he say it?

00:49:25.660 I'm saying, lots

00:49:26.380 of people say he

00:49:26.940 didn't say it.

00:49:27.860 Interesting.

00:49:28.260 A bunch of

00:49:29.760 yeses and a

00:49:30.320 bunch of no's.

00:49:31.600 So the ones who

00:49:32.220 say he didn't

00:49:33.460 say it, did he

00:49:36.260 say something on

00:49:36.960 this topic?

00:49:39.200 How do we not

00:49:39.980 even know that?

00:49:42.440 So a lot of

00:49:43.160 people are saying

00:49:43.720 he said it.

00:49:45.260 But let's deal

00:49:46.200 with that.

00:49:47.000 Okay.

00:49:49.240 He said he did

00:49:50.260 not know why.

00:49:51.880 Okay.

00:49:52.860 But did he say

00:49:53.580 that they used

00:49:54.200 early treatment

00:49:55.160 package that may

00:49:57.460 have included

00:49:58.120 ivermectin?

00:50:01.980 All right.

00:50:02.560 Well, I want to

00:50:03.100 give you a little

00:50:03.700 bit of insight as

00:50:04.980 to why it might

00:50:07.160 be that it

00:50:10.540 seemed like the

00:50:11.660 COVID deaths

00:50:12.480 went to zero

00:50:14.040 in utter, or

00:50:15.460 went really low

00:50:16.340 in utter

00:50:17.320 product.

00:50:18.600 Here's a little

00:50:19.340 background information

00:50:20.500 that, and here's

00:50:22.880 what I suggest.

00:50:23.860 Find out for sure

00:50:24.960 what Dr.

00:50:25.560 Malone said about

00:50:26.220 that.

00:50:27.460 All right.

00:50:28.500 So whatever you

00:50:29.980 think he said

00:50:30.560 about that, just

00:50:31.200 find out for sure.

00:50:32.520 And if you think

00:50:33.140 that he said

00:50:33.620 ivermectin or

00:50:34.720 some early

00:50:35.300 treatment worked

00:50:36.720 in utter

00:50:37.100 product, it

00:50:37.640 doesn't matter

00:50:38.160 if it was

00:50:38.500 ivermectin for

00:50:39.340 this next point.

00:50:40.940 Simply ask

00:50:42.020 yourself this.

00:50:43.460 Just Google a

00:50:44.700 fact check.

00:50:46.200 Google

00:50:46.600 Uttar

00:50:47.840 Pradesh,

00:50:49.500 U-T-T-A-R,

00:50:51.380 P-R-A-D-E-S-H,

00:50:53.040 and then

00:50:54.560 COVID and

00:50:56.960 then fact

00:50:57.880 check.

00:50:59.200 Just Google

00:51:00.040 those things.

00:51:01.360 Now, did I

00:51:02.000 just tell you

00:51:02.660 that the

00:51:03.020 fact checkers

00:51:03.740 are always

00:51:04.180 right, and

00:51:05.720 the expert

00:51:06.340 doctor who's

00:51:07.220 one of the

00:51:08.720 top in his

00:51:09.260 field is

00:51:10.120 wrong?

00:51:11.380 Nope.

00:51:12.460 Nope.

00:51:15.500 He said

00:51:16.360 unknown protocol.

00:51:17.700 All right.

00:51:17.920 So let's

00:51:18.360 take, let's

00:51:19.460 take, can

00:51:21.400 we agree

00:51:21.800 with that?

00:51:22.480 Can we

00:51:22.760 agree, does

00:51:23.460 everybody agree

00:51:24.100 that Dr.

00:51:25.400 Malone referred

00:51:26.100 to an unknown

00:51:27.140 protocol that

00:51:28.780 crushed COVID

00:51:29.880 in Uttar

00:51:30.660 Pradesh?

00:51:31.900 Would

00:51:32.300 everybody agree

00:51:32.820 with that?

00:51:36.480 I think maybe

00:51:37.500 the confusion

00:51:38.100 is he may

00:51:38.780 have mentioned

00:51:39.300 ivermectin and

00:51:40.480 then also

00:51:40.920 mentioned that,

00:51:41.560 so maybe they

00:51:41.980 got conflated.

00:51:43.840 All right.

00:51:44.100 So it doesn't

00:51:44.600 matter for my

00:51:45.940 purposes, it

00:51:46.640 doesn't matter

00:51:47.080 what drugs

00:51:47.620 they used,

00:51:48.180 okay?

00:51:49.160 So the claim

00:51:50.620 is that there

00:51:51.680 was early

00:51:52.220 treatment and

00:51:54.320 that that could

00:51:55.020 be related to

00:51:56.200 crushing the

00:51:57.120 COVID.

00:51:58.820 Am I okay

00:51:59.700 so far?

00:52:01.540 All right.

00:52:01.840 I want to make

00:52:02.580 sure that my

00:52:03.060 claim is

00:52:03.660 compatible with

00:52:04.680 what he actually

00:52:05.520 said and I'm

00:52:06.180 not paraphrasing.

00:52:07.640 So I think I'm

00:52:08.400 on, there was an

00:52:09.440 early treatment

00:52:10.040 protocol, we

00:52:11.240 don't know the

00:52:11.760 details, but

00:52:13.000 that his claim

00:52:14.040 was apparently

00:52:14.900 it worked.

00:52:17.620 Right?

00:52:18.560 Okay, I think

00:52:19.240 we're on the

00:52:19.520 same page now.

00:52:20.780 So we'll take

00:52:21.460 the ivermectin

00:52:22.120 out of the

00:52:22.380 story because

00:52:22.760 it wasn't

00:52:23.120 important for

00:52:23.620 the point I'm

00:52:24.100 going to make,

00:52:24.920 just that there

00:52:25.420 was an early

00:52:25.900 treatment.

00:52:27.320 Here's another

00:52:28.020 fact about that

00:52:28.840 same state.

00:52:30.500 Apparently there

00:52:31.120 were many regions

00:52:31.900 within that state

00:52:32.680 who had zero

00:52:33.440 deaths during the

00:52:35.200 same time.

00:52:36.940 Not zero deaths

00:52:38.040 from COVID, but

00:52:40.060 zero deaths.

00:52:40.820 So during the

00:52:42.260 time that they

00:52:42.800 were taking

00:52:43.220 the unknown

00:52:45.260 early treatment

00:52:46.220 protocol, they

00:52:47.920 also had zero

00:52:48.840 car accidents and

00:52:51.320 zero suicides.

00:52:54.140 They didn't have

00:52:55.080 any cancer, no

00:52:57.460 murders.

00:52:58.920 Now these were

00:52:59.540 areas that

00:53:00.240 typically would

00:53:00.860 have all of

00:53:01.380 these things and

00:53:02.520 lots of them.

00:53:04.120 But for the

00:53:04.920 exact same time

00:53:06.080 that this early

00:53:06.860 protocol was

00:53:08.680 eliminating deaths

00:53:10.400 from COVID, it

00:53:11.860 also eliminated

00:53:13.180 deaths from all

00:53:14.340 other causes.

00:53:15.700 Now that's a

00:53:16.600 good protocol.

00:53:18.420 That is a good

00:53:19.240 protocol.

00:53:20.360 Because, you

00:53:20.780 know, I'd be

00:53:21.720 happy if the

00:53:22.600 early treatment

00:53:23.180 protocol just,

00:53:24.540 just fixed

00:53:26.820 COVID.

00:53:28.900 But apparently

00:53:29.540 based on the

00:53:30.180 data end of

00:53:31.000 Uttar Pradesh,

00:53:33.000 it can also

00:53:33.800 stop car

00:53:34.540 accidents,

00:53:35.080 homicides,

00:53:36.080 suicides, and

00:53:37.500 every form of

00:53:38.520 medical,

00:53:39.300 morbidity.

00:53:42.080 That's pretty

00:53:42.860 good.

00:53:44.700 So I think

00:53:45.540 not only is

00:53:47.680 Dr. Malone

00:53:48.680 right,

00:53:50.900 he's more

00:53:52.240 right than

00:53:52.660 anything I've

00:53:53.220 ever seen.

00:53:54.280 I've never even

00:53:55.020 heard of an

00:53:55.540 early treatment

00:53:56.120 protocol that

00:53:56.900 could stop

00:53:57.400 car accidents.

00:53:59.380 But that's

00:53:59.740 pretty good.

00:54:00.220 So what do

00:54:06.160 you think

00:54:06.420 happened here?

00:54:08.100 Could it

00:54:08.520 be that

00:54:10.380 India has a

00:54:11.160 data problem?

00:54:12.760 Could it

00:54:13.540 be that

00:54:14.840 those areas

00:54:15.500 that for

00:54:16.000 months reported

00:54:17.000 zero deaths

00:54:17.820 of any kind,

00:54:19.600 maybe that

00:54:20.360 might be behind

00:54:21.280 why we think

00:54:22.320 that the

00:54:23.140 early treatment

00:54:24.480 was so good?

00:54:25.500 So here's

00:54:26.100 my point.

00:54:26.700 if you look

00:54:27.520 at the

00:54:27.880 fact checks

00:54:28.700 and compare

00:54:29.700 it to the

00:54:30.280 claim,

00:54:31.040 I don't

00:54:31.640 believe that

00:54:32.140 you will walk

00:54:32.680 away from

00:54:33.060 this thinking

00:54:33.740 that the

00:54:34.260 claim is

00:54:34.760 stronger than

00:54:35.280 the fact

00:54:35.660 checks.

00:54:36.540 Now I'm

00:54:37.260 not going to

00:54:37.680 tell you it's

00:54:38.420 true.

00:54:39.160 I want you

00:54:39.740 to do it.

00:54:40.800 And I would

00:54:41.360 like you not

00:54:42.060 to have any

00:54:43.200 conversation with

00:54:44.160 me about

00:54:44.620 Dr. Malone,

00:54:45.640 period,

00:54:46.660 until you've

00:54:47.260 done this one

00:54:47.880 thing.

00:54:49.780 Can we agree?

00:54:50.600 And if it

00:54:52.040 turns out

00:54:52.520 that on

00:54:53.260 that one

00:54:53.680 point there

00:54:55.540 was an

00:54:56.120 early protocol

00:54:57.360 treatment that

00:54:58.600 really worked

00:54:59.360 in this

00:54:59.820 Uttar Pradesh

00:55:00.580 region,

00:55:01.640 then I would

00:55:02.180 say that

00:55:02.740 Dr. Malone's

00:55:03.840 supporters are

00:55:04.640 right.

00:55:06.320 I would say

00:55:06.780 that they're

00:55:07.200 right.

00:55:07.880 Now Mike

00:55:08.300 says I'm

00:55:08.760 misreading this.

00:55:10.020 Say more,

00:55:10.580 Mike,

00:55:11.380 because you

00:55:11.760 could be

00:55:12.040 right.

00:55:13.360 I would

00:55:13.980 like to

00:55:14.300 pause now

00:55:14.920 so that

00:55:15.760 you can

00:55:16.020 all notice

00:55:16.660 me being

00:55:17.840 less confident.

00:55:19.680 You don't

00:55:20.360 see it a

00:55:20.760 lot.

00:55:21.820 You can

00:55:22.440 notice me

00:55:23.040 saying I

00:55:23.880 could be

00:55:24.220 wrong.

00:55:25.700 Because when

00:55:26.460 people are

00:55:26.840 saying you're

00:55:27.240 misinterpreting

00:55:27.940 it, I

00:55:28.340 take that

00:55:28.700 very seriously.

00:55:29.980 Because everybody

00:55:30.820 misinterprets

00:55:31.520 everything.

00:55:32.900 So somebody

00:55:33.500 says watch

00:55:33.960 the interview.

00:55:35.280 Why is it

00:55:36.020 that you

00:55:36.260 can't answer

00:55:36.780 that question

00:55:37.380 but you

00:55:37.880 think that

00:55:38.340 if I

00:55:38.720 watched it

00:55:39.220 I could?

00:55:40.660 What makes

00:55:41.180 you think

00:55:41.520 that?

00:55:42.880 If all

00:55:43.960 of you

00:55:44.200 collectively

00:55:44.740 who watch

00:55:45.360 the interview

00:55:45.920 can't tell

00:55:47.160 me this

00:55:47.560 simple

00:55:47.940 statement,

00:55:49.540 did Dr.

00:55:50.100 Malone say

00:55:51.340 that he

00:55:52.020 believes an

00:55:52.680 early treatment

00:55:53.380 protocol

00:55:54.080 substantially

00:55:55.960 lowered the

00:55:57.020 COVID problems

00:55:58.040 in that

00:55:58.520 state?

00:55:59.500 That's a

00:56:00.100 pretty specific

00:56:01.000 claim.

00:56:02.040 You can't

00:56:02.540 tell me if

00:56:02.960 that happened

00:56:03.420 on the

00:56:03.680 video?

00:56:05.320 Some people

00:56:05.800 say you

00:56:06.160 did but

00:56:06.580 others

00:56:06.920 agree with

00:56:07.960 Mike that

00:56:08.340 I'm

00:56:08.520 misinterpreting.

00:56:11.080 Can you

00:56:11.680 give me

00:56:12.060 just a

00:56:12.600 little bit

00:56:12.920 I think

00:56:13.300 you might

00:56:13.600 be right

00:56:14.160 by the

00:56:14.520 way.

00:56:15.060 Can you

00:56:15.300 give me

00:56:15.540 just a

00:56:15.900 little bit

00:56:16.200 more

00:56:16.560 whoever

00:56:18.700 said I

00:56:19.140 misinterpreted?

00:56:21.720 Why is it

00:56:22.380 a big deal?

00:56:22.820 It's a big

00:56:23.180 deal because

00:56:23.560 there's one

00:56:23.960 thing we

00:56:24.360 can check

00:56:24.940 with enough

00:56:26.200 confidence

00:56:26.760 that we

00:56:27.640 could say

00:56:28.040 is the

00:56:28.420 doctor giving

00:56:28.980 us accurate

00:56:29.620 or inaccurate

00:56:30.260 information?

00:56:31.640 Oh,

00:56:31.780 if somebody

00:56:32.000 says Dr.

00:56:32.620 McCullough

00:56:33.080 did,

00:56:33.700 all right,

00:56:34.980 but that's

00:56:35.580 different.

00:56:36.040 but nobody

00:56:42.400 can give

00:56:42.860 me a

00:56:43.480 reason why

00:56:44.080 I'm

00:56:44.200 misinterpreting

00:56:44.800 it.

00:56:45.620 He

00:56:45.980 disclaims

00:56:46.780 like you

00:56:47.320 countries

00:56:47.780 are not

00:56:48.220 comparable.

00:56:48.820 That is

00:56:49.060 correct.

00:56:51.800 I've

00:56:52.280 watched most

00:56:52.800 of it,

00:56:54.240 but if,

00:56:55.500 let me,

00:56:56.600 I have to

00:56:57.140 push back

00:56:57.580 on something.

00:56:59.640 If you

00:57:00.300 think that

00:57:00.740 my watching

00:57:01.380 it is

00:57:02.640 going to

00:57:02.920 help as

00:57:03.300 much as

00:57:03.720 you think,

00:57:04.680 I think

00:57:05.200 you're

00:57:05.380 wrong.

00:57:06.540 Because we

00:57:07.100 just watched,

00:57:07.700 all of you

00:57:08.120 watched it,

00:57:08.600 and you

00:57:08.760 can't even

00:57:09.080 agree what

00:57:09.540 you saw.

00:57:11.460 I mean,

00:57:11.740 you're seeing

00:57:12.040 that in

00:57:12.300 real time,

00:57:12.780 right?

00:57:13.000 You all

00:57:13.340 watched it,

00:57:14.100 and you

00:57:14.320 don't even

00:57:14.640 know what

00:57:14.860 you saw.

00:57:15.300 You're not

00:57:15.520 even agreeing

00:57:15.980 on whether

00:57:16.540 he said

00:57:17.000 that fact

00:57:18.380 or not.

00:57:19.980 Now,

00:57:20.400 I know

00:57:20.600 that the

00:57:21.020 third

00:57:21.500 hypothesis

00:57:22.080 is that

00:57:22.820 the

00:57:23.020 ivermectin

00:57:23.720 knocked

00:57:24.880 down some

00:57:25.360 worms that

00:57:26.360 people would

00:57:26.840 have,

00:57:27.180 and that

00:57:27.380 would allow

00:57:27.860 their own

00:57:28.640 body to

00:57:29.200 recover better.

00:57:30.600 So there

00:57:30.980 could be

00:57:31.260 some of

00:57:31.500 that in

00:57:31.720 the numbers

00:57:32.120 too.

00:57:32.340 The

00:57:36.280 from

00:57:36.600 COVID part

00:57:37.540 was

00:57:37.780 implied.

00:57:46.580 Scott is

00:57:47.220 implying what

00:57:47.960 Malone said

00:57:48.680 and arguing

00:57:49.360 with what he

00:57:50.120 didn't say.

00:57:50.600 Well,

00:57:50.880 that's what

00:57:51.160 I'm trying

00:57:51.400 to avoid.

00:57:52.920 But wouldn't

00:57:53.420 it be easy

00:57:53.960 for you to

00:57:55.080 tell me

00:57:55.500 Dr. Malone

00:57:56.880 either said

00:57:57.720 early treatment

00:57:58.980 worked in

00:58:00.420 Utter Pradesh

00:58:01.160 or he said

00:58:02.280 it might

00:58:02.660 have.

00:58:04.480 You can't

00:58:05.220 tell me

00:58:05.480 that?

00:58:06.220 You all

00:58:06.620 watched it.

00:58:07.700 You all

00:58:08.080 think that

00:58:08.440 if I

00:58:08.720 watched it

00:58:09.100 I could

00:58:09.380 get that

00:58:09.800 answer.

00:58:10.460 But why

00:58:10.840 couldn't

00:58:11.060 you get

00:58:11.380 that answer?

00:58:12.400 You

00:58:12.620 watched it.

00:58:13.140 All right,

00:58:19.380 Paul,

00:58:19.800 I'm just

00:58:20.360 going to

00:58:20.780 get rid

00:58:21.700 of you

00:58:21.880 for being

00:58:22.200 an asshole.

00:58:24.240 Like,

00:58:24.640 we all

00:58:25.200 get that

00:58:26.140 I said

00:58:26.480 I'd

00:58:26.640 watch it.

00:58:27.240 I've

00:58:27.400 watched

00:58:27.600 some of

00:58:27.980 it.

00:58:28.260 I

00:58:28.340 haven't.

00:58:28.980 So if

00:58:29.540 that's

00:58:29.780 all you

00:58:30.020 can

00:58:30.200 hammer

00:58:30.440 on,

00:58:31.360 you're

00:58:31.600 not

00:58:31.780 really

00:58:32.000 doing

00:58:32.260 anything

00:58:32.520 useful

00:58:32.840 here.

00:58:33.460 So

00:58:33.600 just

00:58:33.780 go

00:58:33.960 away.

00:58:37.520 He

00:58:37.960 said

00:58:38.180 the

00:58:38.300 U.S.

00:58:38.600 got

00:58:38.760 involved,

00:58:39.380 didn't

00:58:39.540 know

00:58:39.740 why.

00:58:40.280 Malone

00:58:49.020 said

00:58:49.520 Biden

00:58:49.920 met

00:58:50.180 with

00:58:50.400 Modi

00:58:50.680 and

00:58:50.980 the

00:58:51.200 utter

00:58:51.440 Pradesh

00:58:51.880 info

00:58:52.280 was

00:58:52.600 suppressed.

00:58:54.640 So he

00:58:56.720 was

00:58:56.900 suggesting

00:58:57.380 that there

00:58:57.860 might be

00:58:58.340 a conspiracy

00:58:58.980 but he

00:58:59.480 wasn't

00:58:59.780 committing

00:59:00.200 to it,

00:59:00.580 right?

00:59:02.540 All

00:59:02.860 right.

00:59:04.340 Let's

00:59:04.900 talk more

00:59:05.340 about

00:59:05.620 parasitic

00:59:06.380 worms.

00:59:07.140 Yes.

00:59:08.640 He

00:59:08.780 specifically

00:59:09.980 said he

00:59:10.460 doesn't

00:59:10.780 know

00:59:10.900 the

00:59:11.040 protocol

00:59:11.400 which

00:59:11.780 doesn't

00:59:12.180 matter

00:59:12.440 to me,

00:59:12.960 right?

00:59:13.780 It didn't

00:59:14.540 matter to

00:59:14.900 my point.

00:59:18.140 All

00:59:18.620 right.

00:59:18.840 I'm

00:59:19.120 going to

00:59:19.440 end the

00:59:20.120 Dr.

00:59:20.520 Malone

00:59:20.820 conversation

00:59:21.780 by saying

00:59:22.540 if you

00:59:24.260 check that

00:59:24.780 one claim

00:59:25.460 and you

00:59:26.380 believe that

00:59:26.820 he got

00:59:27.120 that right,

00:59:28.040 then I

00:59:28.820 won't have

00:59:29.340 any more

00:59:29.740 problems

00:59:30.180 with Dr.

00:59:30.880 Malone.

00:59:34.140 Agree?

00:59:34.580 If he

00:59:36.500 got this

00:59:36.940 one claim

00:59:37.600 right,

00:59:38.120 whatever he

00:59:38.560 claimed,

00:59:40.540 and I

00:59:41.040 will go

00:59:41.400 watch it

00:59:41.700 by the

00:59:41.880 way,

00:59:42.340 but whatever

00:59:42.800 he claimed,

00:59:43.420 if he

00:59:43.640 got it

00:59:43.920 right,

00:59:44.800 then I

00:59:45.220 will agree

00:59:45.720 with you

00:59:46.100 that Dr.

00:59:46.920 Malone is

00:59:47.380 an expert

00:59:47.840 and he

00:59:49.000 should be

00:59:49.300 listened to.

00:59:50.300 But would

00:59:50.720 you agree

00:59:51.120 with me

00:59:51.640 that if

00:59:53.140 this claim

00:59:53.680 was wildly

00:59:54.380 off base,

00:59:56.000 then maybe

00:59:56.880 you should

00:59:57.260 question some

00:59:57.920 of the other

00:59:58.280 things he

00:59:58.660 said?

00:59:59.060 Fair enough?

01:00:00.460 Let's just

01:00:01.020 put it all

01:00:01.420 in this one

01:00:01.860 question and

01:00:02.580 walk away and

01:00:03.660 then we

01:00:03.820 don't have

01:00:04.080 to talk

01:00:04.360 about it.

01:00:05.380 And the

01:00:05.680 claim was

01:00:06.160 that Uttar

01:00:06.660 Pradesh

01:00:07.160 defeated its

01:00:09.340 COVID with

01:00:10.220 an unknown

01:00:11.020 protocol of

01:00:11.800 early treatment.

01:00:13.580 I say it

01:00:14.100 didn't happen.

01:00:15.680 He says it

01:00:16.260 did.

01:00:17.220 Allegedly.

01:00:18.540 I don't

01:00:18.780 want to,

01:00:19.380 but I'm

01:00:20.360 getting enough

01:00:20.780 pushback on

01:00:21.480 what he did

01:00:21.980 say that I'm

01:00:23.180 not entirely

01:00:23.860 sure.

01:00:25.900 But give

01:00:26.560 me a video

01:00:27.160 clip on just

01:00:27.780 that part and

01:00:28.640 maybe you'll

01:00:29.300 save me some

01:00:29.780 time.

01:00:30.120 But I will

01:00:30.460 listen to the

01:00:30.920 rest of it.

01:00:32.180 Honestly,

01:00:32.660 I don't know

01:00:32.980 how anybody

01:00:33.460 listens to

01:00:34.000 three hours

01:00:34.520 of content

01:00:35.020 on anything.

01:00:36.240 How do

01:00:36.520 you listen

01:00:36.820 to three

01:00:37.220 hours of

01:00:37.640 talking from

01:00:38.240 one guy?

01:00:39.480 How do

01:00:39.880 you listen

01:00:40.140 to me?

01:00:40.580 I don't

01:00:40.760 know.

01:00:41.940 Let's talk

01:00:42.540 about placebos.

01:00:44.420 Do you

01:00:44.960 know why

01:00:45.280 placebos

01:00:45.860 work?

01:00:47.940 Anybody?

01:00:49.080 Does anybody

01:00:49.580 know why

01:00:50.140 placebos

01:00:50.900 work?

01:00:53.000 I'll bet

01:00:53.580 you don't.

01:00:55.200 Give me

01:00:55.740 some ideas.

01:00:56.820 Do

01:00:56.960 placebos

01:00:57.540 work because

01:00:58.240 we think

01:00:59.560 they work?

01:01:00.120 Well, it

01:01:03.860 turns out

01:01:04.420 that it's a

01:01:05.220 little bit

01:01:05.540 confusing.

01:01:06.400 I was doing

01:01:06.740 a little

01:01:06.980 research this

01:01:07.720 morning.

01:01:08.560 One of the

01:01:08.900 reasons that

01:01:09.420 placebos appear

01:01:10.880 to work,

01:01:12.260 anyway, this

01:01:13.040 is the best

01:01:13.440 part of the

01:01:13.820 show.

01:01:14.280 Glad you

01:01:14.620 waited.

01:01:15.380 The reason

01:01:15.820 that placebos

01:01:16.660 appear to

01:01:17.060 work might

01:01:18.080 be that you

01:01:19.300 think they

01:01:19.840 worked and

01:01:20.600 they didn't.

01:01:21.760 One example

01:01:22.440 would be

01:01:22.880 asthma.

01:01:23.260 If you give

01:01:24.620 somebody an

01:01:25.100 asthma placebo

01:01:25.960 and ask them

01:01:27.540 if it worked,

01:01:28.280 they'll say

01:01:28.680 yes.

01:01:29.140 but if you

01:01:30.120 measure their

01:01:30.940 actual oxygen,

01:01:33.280 it didn't.

01:01:34.660 So part of

01:01:35.300 why placebos

01:01:36.160 seem to

01:01:36.820 work is

01:01:37.340 people say

01:01:38.000 they feel

01:01:38.460 better but

01:01:39.240 nothing's

01:01:40.260 actually different.

01:01:41.100 It's just

01:01:41.360 an imagination.

01:01:42.920 But there's

01:01:43.780 a weirder

01:01:44.260 category where

01:01:46.060 people's body

01:01:47.260 will actually

01:01:48.120 be measurably

01:01:49.960 better.

01:01:51.420 For example,

01:01:52.020 if you give

01:01:52.580 somebody a

01:01:53.280 placebo blood

01:01:55.600 pressure med,

01:01:57.480 it can actually

01:01:58.080 lower the

01:01:58.520 blood pressure

01:01:59.280 and you

01:01:59.600 can measure

01:02:00.000 it.

01:02:01.940 So the

01:02:03.300 second reason

01:02:04.040 is that the

01:02:04.840 brain actually

01:02:05.760 somehow,

01:02:08.000 for those

01:02:08.500 things that

01:02:08.960 the brain

01:02:09.360 can directly

01:02:10.020 control,

01:02:11.660 it just has

01:02:12.360 to know what

01:02:12.860 its intention

01:02:13.440 is and then

01:02:14.360 it just does

01:02:14.940 it.

01:02:17.080 But is that

01:02:18.300 the only

01:02:18.640 reason?

01:02:18.940 So some of

01:02:20.680 it is the

01:02:21.080 brain actually

01:02:21.660 corresponding to

01:02:22.700 what you think

01:02:23.300 it should do.

01:02:24.000 and then

01:02:27.340 there's this

01:02:27.760 weird, weird

01:02:28.800 result that

01:02:30.220 I'd never

01:02:30.580 heard before

01:02:31.160 which is that

01:02:32.520 the longer

01:02:33.020 you use the

01:02:33.740 placebo, the

01:02:34.440 better it

01:02:34.840 works.

01:02:36.520 Have you

01:02:37.040 ever heard

01:02:37.360 that before?

01:02:38.780 So if you

01:02:40.020 had a

01:02:40.980 placebo and

01:02:42.180 you said,

01:02:42.520 all right,

01:02:42.680 we're going to

01:02:42.940 give you this

01:02:43.460 placebo for

01:02:44.280 blood pressure

01:02:45.340 and everybody

01:02:46.800 thought it

01:02:47.180 was real,

01:02:48.620 if you

01:02:49.300 started measuring

01:02:50.060 their blood

01:02:50.500 pressure on

01:02:51.220 day one,

01:02:52.560 maybe a few

01:02:53.160 people would

01:02:53.640 actually have

01:02:54.040 better blood

01:02:54.520 pressure and

01:02:55.220 you'd say,

01:02:55.600 well, there's

01:02:55.880 that placebo

01:02:56.460 effect.

01:02:57.520 But allegedly,

01:02:58.840 if you came

01:02:59.400 back in a

01:02:59.880 month, even

01:03:01.420 more people

01:03:02.220 would have

01:03:03.260 even better

01:03:03.900 blood pressure

01:03:04.620 and if you

01:03:05.640 came back a

01:03:06.160 month after

01:03:06.620 that, even

01:03:08.420 more people

01:03:09.020 would be

01:03:09.360 better.

01:03:10.320 So somehow

01:03:10.840 a placebo

01:03:11.640 increases in

01:03:13.700 power over

01:03:15.260 time.

01:03:17.720 What?

01:03:19.220 What?

01:03:20.500 How is

01:03:21.300 any of this

01:03:21.720 possible?

01:03:23.360 All right.

01:03:25.620 Let me add

01:03:26.640 a hypothesis

01:03:27.420 that is not

01:03:28.500 included in

01:03:29.220 WebMD where

01:03:30.160 they tell you

01:03:30.740 what causes

01:03:31.960 this.

01:03:32.220 Oh, and

01:03:32.380 the other

01:03:33.160 possibility is

01:03:34.900 that placebo

01:03:36.360 will reduce

01:03:37.120 your anxiety.

01:03:38.620 So if you

01:03:39.040 believe you're

01:03:39.680 being helped,

01:03:41.240 the lowering

01:03:41.780 of your

01:03:42.280 stress

01:03:42.900 response

01:03:45.080 could make

01:03:46.220 you just

01:03:46.980 get better

01:03:47.500 because your

01:03:48.100 body would

01:03:48.680 be better

01:03:49.060 at healing

01:03:49.440 itself

01:03:49.880 because you

01:03:50.840 would reduce

01:03:51.280 your stress

01:03:52.000 over your

01:03:52.540 own problem.

01:03:54.700 Also

01:03:55.060 possible.

01:03:56.600 Here is

01:03:57.380 my own

01:03:59.060 interpretation

01:03:59.740 to add

01:04:00.800 to the

01:04:01.080 mix.

01:04:02.380 If we

01:04:03.160 are a

01:04:03.540 simulation,

01:04:04.740 as I

01:04:05.460 expect we

01:04:06.060 are,

01:04:07.280 and I've

01:04:07.960 told you

01:04:08.300 before that

01:04:09.640 intention

01:04:10.240 appears,

01:04:11.580 don't know

01:04:12.060 for sure,

01:04:12.740 but it

01:04:13.120 appears to

01:04:13.960 rewrite the

01:04:15.300 simulation.

01:04:15.720 if you

01:04:17.540 take a

01:04:17.960 placebo,

01:04:20.060 and you're

01:04:20.700 a group

01:04:21.060 of people,

01:04:21.540 let's say,

01:04:21.820 a group

01:04:22.060 of people

01:04:22.400 take a

01:04:22.780 placebo,

01:04:23.460 you could

01:04:24.020 count on

01:04:24.460 some of

01:04:24.820 those people

01:04:25.280 to say,

01:04:25.900 because people

01:04:26.360 are all

01:04:26.680 different and

01:04:27.260 weird,

01:04:28.120 some of

01:04:28.540 those people

01:04:28.940 would say,

01:04:29.720 I don't

01:04:30.100 know if

01:04:30.360 this placebo

01:04:30.960 is, or

01:04:31.820 this pill

01:04:32.220 is going

01:04:32.460 to work

01:04:32.740 or not,

01:04:33.860 and then

01:04:34.380 they would

01:04:35.000 get exactly

01:04:35.560 that result.

01:04:37.060 They would

01:04:37.380 say,

01:04:37.840 I'm not,

01:04:38.440 I want it

01:04:39.000 to work,

01:04:40.080 but I'm not

01:04:40.580 confident,

01:04:41.680 and then

01:04:42.320 nothing happens.

01:04:43.740 So there

01:04:44.240 would be

01:04:44.440 lots of

01:04:44.760 people who

01:04:45.140 would take

01:04:45.400 a pill

01:04:45.660 and say,

01:04:46.000 I don't

01:04:46.240 know,

01:04:46.600 I don't

01:04:46.880 know if

01:04:47.060 it's going

01:04:47.300 to work.

01:04:47.940 Would

01:04:48.200 those people

01:04:48.740 have an

01:04:49.200 intention

01:04:49.760 of getting

01:04:50.680 better,

01:04:51.580 or would

01:04:51.880 they simply

01:04:52.280 want to

01:04:52.680 get better?

01:04:53.760 I would

01:04:54.040 say those

01:04:54.700 are people

01:04:55.080 who want

01:04:55.480 to get

01:04:55.740 better,

01:04:56.080 but they

01:04:56.360 don't trust

01:04:56.860 that there's

01:04:57.320 any mechanism

01:04:58.200 for it to

01:04:58.660 happen.

01:04:59.740 And maybe

01:05:00.060 they don't

01:05:00.380 get better.

01:05:01.520 But suppose

01:05:02.180 some of the

01:05:03.820 people who

01:05:04.180 took a pill,

01:05:05.220 not knowing

01:05:05.860 it was a

01:05:06.280 placebo,

01:05:07.400 had a

01:05:08.160 stronger

01:05:08.660 belief in

01:05:09.280 it.

01:05:09.960 So strong,

01:05:10.820 in fact,

01:05:11.140 that you

01:05:11.500 could call

01:05:11.940 it an

01:05:12.320 intention.

01:05:14.100 In other

01:05:14.460 words,

01:05:14.820 they're so

01:05:15.340 certain that

01:05:16.160 they have a

01:05:16.560 real pill

01:05:17.040 that's really

01:05:17.540 going to

01:05:17.800 help,

01:05:18.340 not for a

01:05:18.860 good reason,

01:05:19.460 but psychologically

01:05:20.280 they're still

01:05:20.860 certain.

01:05:21.980 Does it get

01:05:22.720 so close to

01:05:24.100 certainty that

01:05:25.100 it feels like

01:05:25.760 an intention?

01:05:27.660 And at that

01:05:28.300 point,

01:05:28.920 does it actually

01:05:29.700 just change the

01:05:30.520 simulation?

01:05:31.840 In other

01:05:32.280 words,

01:05:33.300 are people who

01:05:34.200 take placebos

01:05:35.120 using the

01:05:35.640 placebo as

01:05:36.440 just a,

01:05:37.320 let's say,

01:05:38.040 a technique

01:05:38.920 to change

01:05:41.340 their own

01:05:41.740 intentions and

01:05:42.740 then the

01:05:43.020 intentions change

01:05:43.960 the simulation

01:05:44.680 and the

01:05:45.560 simulation just

01:05:46.260 gives you

01:05:46.600 back your

01:05:46.980 health?

01:05:49.160 I'm not

01:05:49.800 going to say

01:05:50.220 that's what's

01:05:50.760 happening.

01:05:52.000 I'm going to

01:05:52.680 say that it

01:05:53.160 would explain

01:05:53.700 everything we

01:05:54.340 see,

01:05:55.280 which doesn't

01:05:56.420 mean it's

01:05:56.720 true.

01:05:57.400 But as a

01:05:58.120 filter for

01:05:58.740 explaining the

01:05:59.440 world,

01:06:00.600 you should

01:06:01.140 take the

01:06:01.520 one that

01:06:01.820 explains

01:06:02.220 everything

01:06:02.640 and predicts.

01:06:04.800 So,

01:06:05.520 that would

01:06:06.840 explain every

01:06:07.760 part of the

01:06:08.440 placebos.

01:06:10.700 That you're

01:06:11.440 just making

01:06:12.500 it happen

01:06:13.000 because that's

01:06:15.060 how things

01:06:15.440 work.

01:06:15.960 You want to

01:06:16.280 get weirder?

01:06:18.680 Here's my

01:06:19.520 hypothesis with

01:06:21.440 no science

01:06:22.360 behind it,

01:06:22.880 right?

01:06:23.060 This is just

01:06:23.600 a speculation.

01:06:26.280 I've never

01:06:27.160 quite bought

01:06:27.880 into the

01:06:29.280 mechanism for

01:06:30.380 evolution,

01:06:32.400 meaning that

01:06:33.680 it's just

01:06:35.340 chance and

01:06:36.220 mutation and

01:06:37.140 time and

01:06:38.480 the things

01:06:38.920 that are

01:06:39.200 more adaptive

01:06:40.660 and more

01:06:41.180 likely to

01:06:41.980 survive.

01:06:43.240 There might

01:06:43.700 be some of

01:06:44.160 that going

01:06:44.520 on.

01:06:45.920 But I

01:06:46.780 really,

01:06:47.640 based on

01:06:48.220 everything that

01:06:48.820 I see about

01:06:49.780 how intentions

01:06:50.760 appear to

01:06:51.740 actually just

01:06:52.780 change reality,

01:06:55.020 would you

01:06:55.500 suspect that

01:06:56.740 if a giraffe

01:06:57.560 could not

01:06:58.140 reach the

01:06:58.920 leaves that

01:06:59.420 are higher

01:06:59.740 up on the

01:07:00.160 tree,

01:07:01.600 that its

01:07:02.320 intention,

01:07:03.080 which would

01:07:03.440 be very

01:07:03.860 clear,

01:07:04.260 to reach

01:07:05.540 the leaves

01:07:06.140 at the

01:07:06.420 top of

01:07:06.720 the tree?

01:07:07.640 But they

01:07:08.220 can't.

01:07:09.520 It's not

01:07:09.980 like the

01:07:10.440 neck is

01:07:11.040 going to

01:07:11.280 grow in

01:07:11.680 real time,

01:07:12.280 right?

01:07:12.600 We don't

01:07:13.060 have that

01:07:13.380 capability.

01:07:14.580 Could that

01:07:15.020 giraffe,

01:07:16.480 by its

01:07:16.960 intention

01:07:17.560 alone,

01:07:19.000 intention

01:07:19.640 alone,

01:07:20.320 very clear,

01:07:21.340 want to

01:07:21.840 reach higher

01:07:22.420 leaves,

01:07:23.720 could that

01:07:24.220 translate into

01:07:25.080 the child?

01:07:25.960 In other

01:07:27.600 words,

01:07:28.600 could it

01:07:29.080 change which

01:07:30.000 child the

01:07:32.160 giraffe has?

01:07:32.960 could that

01:07:34.200 child then,

01:07:36.540 on average,

01:07:37.400 have a

01:07:37.660 longer neck?

01:07:39.840 Now,

01:07:40.240 there's no

01:07:40.520 scientific

01:07:42.040 mechanism for

01:07:43.000 this.

01:07:43.320 I'm quite

01:07:43.680 aware of

01:07:44.040 that,

01:07:44.400 right?

01:07:46.760 Epigenetics

01:07:47.240 means that

01:07:48.020 you're trying

01:07:49.000 to do the

01:07:49.560 thing and

01:07:50.860 the attempt

01:07:51.900 moved to

01:07:52.580 the next

01:07:52.980 generation.

01:07:54.860 But that,

01:07:56.320 I think

01:07:56.720 epigenetics,

01:07:58.360 give me a

01:07:59.240 science lesson

01:07:59.840 here,

01:08:00.160 fact check

01:08:00.540 me.

01:08:01.100 I think

01:08:01.500 the idea

01:08:01.860 for that

01:08:02.240 is,

01:08:02.480 let's say,

01:08:02.740 if your

01:08:03.120 father lifted

01:08:04.500 a lot of

01:08:04.980 objects and

01:08:05.540 had big

01:08:06.080 muscles,

01:08:07.500 that the

01:08:07.840 child would

01:08:08.420 more likely

01:08:08.920 have big

01:08:09.340 muscles,

01:08:09.980 which I

01:08:10.380 don't believe

01:08:10.820 has any

01:08:11.280 evidence to

01:08:11.920 support it,

01:08:12.460 right?

01:08:13.820 Am I right

01:08:14.460 on that so

01:08:14.920 far?

01:08:16.580 But that's

01:08:17.420 not what I'm

01:08:17.800 talking about.

01:08:18.520 I'm talking

01:08:18.880 about a pure

01:08:19.540 mental process

01:08:20.580 in which

01:08:21.220 intending

01:08:22.320 something

01:08:22.880 translates into

01:08:24.340 which children

01:08:25.480 get born.

01:08:26.920 Now,

01:08:27.560 again,

01:08:27.980 I want to

01:08:28.220 say as

01:08:28.480 clearly as

01:08:28.980 possible,

01:08:29.420 there's no

01:08:29.900 evidence for

01:08:30.540 that,

01:08:31.480 none

01:08:31.820 whatsoever.

01:08:33.380 But,

01:08:34.080 if we are

01:08:35.520 a simulation,

01:08:36.700 for which the

01:08:37.420 argument is

01:08:37.860 very strong,

01:08:39.140 if we are

01:08:39.620 a simulation,

01:08:40.680 it does

01:08:41.320 suggest that

01:08:41.980 intentions can

01:08:43.420 change things,

01:08:45.420 and that maybe

01:08:46.040 that's behind

01:08:46.600 placebos.

01:08:47.660 It's just an

01:08:48.260 intention play.

01:08:49.800 Could be.

01:08:51.040 Anyway,

01:08:53.500 Lamarckism,

01:08:54.680 yeah, all those

01:08:55.200 things are not

01:08:55.740 what I'm talking

01:08:56.300 about.

01:08:57.580 Epigenetics

01:08:58.100 and

01:08:59.500 Lamarckism

01:09:01.800 are not

01:09:02.840 what I'm

01:09:03.180 talking about.

01:09:05.040 Right?

01:09:07.700 Definitely

01:09:08.180 not talking

01:09:08.760 about those

01:09:09.160 things.

01:09:10.020 But apparently

01:09:10.540 most of you

01:09:12.480 will just say

01:09:13.040 I'm talking

01:09:13.520 about those

01:09:13.980 things and

01:09:14.520 then that'll

01:09:15.800 be the end

01:09:16.160 of it.

01:09:17.560 I know I

01:09:18.380 can't win

01:09:18.780 this.

01:09:19.440 As soon as

01:09:19.960 you're reminded

01:09:20.600 of something

01:09:21.200 else,

01:09:22.620 then your

01:09:23.760 brain goes

01:09:24.260 there and

01:09:24.520 you're done.

01:09:24.840 Okay.

01:09:26.580 So Hitler's

01:09:27.720 parents want

01:09:28.480 it.

01:09:29.100 Well, no,

01:09:29.440 I'm not

01:09:29.700 suggesting it

01:09:30.320 works for

01:09:30.840 every person

01:09:31.500 in every

01:09:31.800 situation.

01:09:32.760 I'm suggesting

01:09:33.680 that it would

01:09:34.100 be a statistical

01:09:34.880 difference over

01:09:35.620 time.

01:09:37.900 All right.

01:09:42.400 And that

01:09:43.380 is what I

01:09:45.260 wanted to say,

01:09:45.880 except that

01:09:46.500 if you

01:09:48.000 extended this

01:09:48.660 to its

01:09:48.960 natural

01:09:49.720 conclusion,

01:09:50.460 and this

01:09:51.940 is a

01:09:52.360 Twitter user

01:09:53.300 GF

01:09:53.960 Odur

01:09:54.540 that is

01:09:56.480 either

01:09:56.740 GFODOR

01:09:57.640 or

01:09:57.960 girlfriend

01:09:58.460 odor.

01:10:00.260 G-F-O-D-O-R.

01:10:02.680 I hope it's

01:10:03.320 his last name

01:10:04.000 or something.

01:10:04.560 I hope his

01:10:05.260 girlfriend doesn't

01:10:05.880 have odor.

01:10:07.200 But anyway,

01:10:07.680 he tweets,

01:10:09.760 he's got a

01:10:10.200 theory,

01:10:10.600 he says a

01:10:11.380 clinical trial

01:10:12.240 might show

01:10:12.760 that if

01:10:13.900 you're a

01:10:14.200 Trump supporter,

01:10:16.180 ivermectin

01:10:16.820 and hydroxychloroquine

01:10:18.000 would work

01:10:18.620 because of the

01:10:20.380 placebo effect.

01:10:21.220 What do

01:10:23.280 you think of

01:10:23.580 that?

01:10:24.480 Do you

01:10:24.980 think that

01:10:25.300 if you

01:10:25.520 did a

01:10:25.780 trial of

01:10:26.440 Trump supporters

01:10:27.800 versus

01:10:28.440 non-Trump

01:10:29.740 supporters,

01:10:30.580 you'd find

01:10:31.220 that the

01:10:31.600 Trump supporters

01:10:32.260 actually did

01:10:33.180 get value

01:10:33.980 from ivermectin

01:10:34.940 and hydroxychloroquine,

01:10:36.600 possibly the

01:10:37.260 placebo,

01:10:38.220 but you would

01:10:38.680 find that the

01:10:39.220 Democrats would

01:10:39.940 not because

01:10:41.240 they would be

01:10:41.800 sure they

01:10:42.260 wouldn't work.

01:10:44.420 That could

01:10:45.020 actually be

01:10:45.460 tested.

01:10:46.160 I mean,

01:10:46.360 I don't know

01:10:46.900 if it's ethical

01:10:47.520 or anything,

01:10:48.160 but you could

01:10:49.280 test it,

01:10:49.920 right?

01:10:51.220 Robert's

01:10:56.440 asking,

01:10:56.920 why don't

01:10:57.200 masks work?

01:10:58.500 Robert,

01:10:58.960 we're so

01:10:59.300 done with

01:10:59.720 masks.

01:11:01.560 So done

01:11:02.040 with masks.

01:11:03.400 Yes,

01:11:03.900 so,

01:11:05.000 could it

01:11:05.400 be,

01:11:05.860 let me

01:11:06.160 take you

01:11:06.460 further,

01:11:07.140 you want

01:11:07.360 to get

01:11:07.540 weirder?

01:11:08.500 Do you

01:11:08.680 remember

01:11:08.940 that Dr.

01:11:10.980 Zelenko

01:11:11.500 had the

01:11:12.900 Zelenko

01:11:13.500 protocol,

01:11:15.380 and he

01:11:16.020 was saying

01:11:16.380 that he

01:11:16.640 was curing

01:11:17.140 people with

01:11:17.840 hydroxy and

01:11:19.380 some other

01:11:19.920 drugs in

01:11:20.460 combo.

01:11:21.220 What if

01:11:23.160 he was?

01:11:25.600 What if

01:11:26.060 he was?

01:11:28.240 What if

01:11:29.160 the doctor's

01:11:30.300 confidence,

01:11:31.560 because he

01:11:31.940 projected himself

01:11:32.880 with great

01:11:33.700 confidence,

01:11:34.480 what if his

01:11:35.040 confidence

01:11:35.600 actually convinced

01:11:37.280 his customers

01:11:38.880 in a way that

01:11:39.740 other patients

01:11:41.660 were not

01:11:42.100 convinced by

01:11:42.620 their doctors,

01:11:43.680 what if the

01:11:44.360 doctor convinced

01:11:45.300 them it was

01:11:45.780 going to work

01:11:46.360 simply because

01:11:47.720 he had that

01:11:48.440 doctor confidence?

01:11:49.660 do you

01:11:51.080 think that

01:11:51.520 I'm sorry,

01:11:52.900 Zelensky,

01:11:54.580 I'll take

01:11:55.480 the correction,

01:11:56.760 it's Dr.

01:11:57.620 Zelensky,

01:11:58.680 I pronounced

01:11:59.180 his name

01:11:59.660 wrong,

01:12:00.860 do you

01:12:01.180 think that

01:12:01.520 Dr.

01:12:02.020 Zelensky

01:12:02.520 could make

01:12:03.500 hydroxychloroquine

01:12:04.820 work for his

01:12:05.640 patients,

01:12:06.500 but not for

01:12:07.640 other people?

01:12:10.200 Yes.

01:12:12.000 That's the

01:12:12.780 weird thing.

01:12:13.940 I'm not saying

01:12:14.560 that's what

01:12:14.940 happened.

01:12:15.300 I'm not

01:12:17.540 saying that

01:12:17.940 that's what

01:12:18.280 happened.

01:12:19.100 I'm saying

01:12:19.580 it's actually

01:12:20.440 possible.

01:12:21.780 You could

01:12:22.420 have a

01:12:23.180 charismatic

01:12:23.600 doctor who

01:12:24.440 could cure

01:12:24.880 people with

01:12:25.380 placebos.

01:12:27.420 In fact,

01:12:28.260 I imagine

01:12:28.900 witch doctors

01:12:29.620 did that all

01:12:30.240 the time.

01:12:30.980 They just

01:12:31.620 convinced people

01:12:32.340 that they

01:12:32.640 were fixed

01:12:33.220 and then they

01:12:33.760 felt better.

01:12:36.060 Yeah,

01:12:36.660 so it would

01:12:39.100 be easy for

01:12:39.900 me to imagine

01:12:40.620 that there's a

01:12:41.440 world in which

01:12:42.100 ivermectin and

01:12:42.920 hydroxychloroquine

01:12:43.940 totally work,

01:12:45.580 but only for

01:12:46.380 people who

01:12:46.840 think it

01:12:47.200 will.

01:12:49.480 Remember,

01:12:50.220 the placebo

01:12:50.740 effect isn't

01:12:51.520 small.

01:12:52.640 The placebo

01:12:53.280 effect could

01:12:53.840 be anywhere

01:12:54.340 from 15%

01:12:55.780 to,

01:12:56.840 wait for

01:12:57.160 it,

01:12:58.400 70%.

01:12:59.480 The placebo

01:13:01.400 effect is so

01:13:02.320 big,

01:13:02.800 potentially,

01:13:03.460 in any

01:13:04.020 given situation,

01:13:05.260 is potentially

01:13:05.880 so big

01:13:06.680 that if

01:13:08.180 the people

01:13:09.460 who believed

01:13:10.140 these drugs

01:13:10.740 would work

01:13:11.420 took them,

01:13:12.520 it would

01:13:13.700 look exactly

01:13:14.680 like it

01:13:15.080 was a

01:13:15.560 wonder drug.

01:13:17.280 So the

01:13:17.580 weird situation

01:13:18.320 is that we

01:13:18.920 can't rule

01:13:19.420 out,

01:13:20.680 is that

01:13:21.120 ivermectin

01:13:21.940 and

01:13:22.260 hydroxychloroquine

01:13:24.780 both work

01:13:26.340 and also

01:13:29.040 don't work.

01:13:30.760 That's

01:13:31.360 entirely

01:13:31.860 possible.

01:13:33.540 That they

01:13:33.840 completely,

01:13:35.460 you know,

01:13:35.760 they work

01:13:36.360 so well

01:13:36.980 that they

01:13:38.480 might make

01:13:39.240 a gigantic

01:13:39.800 difference in

01:13:40.480 mortality

01:13:41.000 and not

01:13:42.520 have any

01:13:43.120 medical

01:13:43.480 efficacy

01:13:44.020 whatsoever.

01:13:45.540 That's

01:13:46.060 completely

01:13:46.480 possible.

01:13:47.880 Somebody

01:13:48.120 says

01:13:48.380 vaccines,

01:13:49.260 but I

01:13:49.880 think you

01:13:50.240 would catch

01:13:50.720 that in

01:13:51.060 the data

01:13:51.460 a little

01:13:51.760 bit faster.

01:13:59.960 You may

01:14:00.660 have an

01:14:01.060 indica sativa

01:14:01.920 imbalance

01:14:02.420 causing

01:14:02.940 random

01:14:03.340 thoughts.

01:14:04.440 No,

01:14:04.960 I don't

01:14:05.180 need anything

01:14:05.680 to have

01:14:05.980 random

01:14:06.260 thoughts.

01:14:06.680 If we're

01:14:12.320 in a

01:14:12.540 simulation,

01:14:13.280 we won't

01:14:13.580 be able

01:14:13.820 to create

01:14:14.120 a simulation

01:14:14.680 like the

01:14:15.100 one we

01:14:15.380 were

01:14:15.460 residing.

01:14:16.160 I'll tell

01:14:16.580 you,

01:14:16.760 I have

01:14:17.040 a hypothesis

01:14:18.040 that if

01:14:19.300 we are

01:14:19.620 a simulation,

01:14:20.580 there is

01:14:21.020 a way

01:14:21.440 to know

01:14:22.180 it.

01:14:23.320 And the

01:14:23.640 way to

01:14:24.020 know it

01:14:24.380 is that

01:14:24.840 over time,

01:14:26.660 there are

01:14:27.100 more and

01:14:27.400 more hints

01:14:27.840 until you

01:14:28.260 realize you're

01:14:28.840 in a

01:14:29.040 simulation

01:14:29.440 and then

01:14:29.960 you wake

01:14:30.380 up.

01:14:33.400 Or the

01:14:34.100 game's

01:14:34.420 over.

01:14:36.680 can the

01:14:37.260 opposite be

01:14:37.800 true?

01:14:38.200 That if

01:14:38.460 you told

01:14:38.900 people it

01:14:39.300 wouldn't

01:14:39.620 work,

01:14:40.040 that it

01:14:40.260 wouldn't

01:14:40.420 work?

01:14:40.660 Yes.

01:14:40.960 Actually,

01:14:41.340 the opposite

01:14:41.700 has been

01:14:42.140 tested.

01:14:43.140 So you

01:14:43.600 can make

01:14:44.180 people sicker

01:14:45.280 with a

01:14:46.100 placebo or

01:14:47.940 healthier,

01:14:48.660 depending on

01:14:49.340 what they

01:14:49.600 believe will

01:14:49.940 do.

01:14:50.120 That

01:14:50.260 actually

01:14:50.600 has been

01:14:50.920 tested.

01:14:54.140 All right.

01:14:55.020 Yeah,

01:14:55.500 we're not

01:14:55.720 going to talk

01:14:56.020 about masks

01:14:56.460 anymore.

01:14:57.600 The thing

01:14:58.240 with masks

01:14:58.780 is there

01:14:59.700 was a time

01:15:00.200 when that

01:15:00.540 conversation

01:15:01.100 made sense,

01:15:02.420 but not

01:15:03.100 now.

01:15:05.400 Now the

01:15:06.040 only conversation

01:15:06.780 of masks

01:15:07.280 is what

01:15:07.800 time is

01:15:08.200 it?

01:15:09.460 Have two

01:15:10.140 weeks passed?

01:15:11.940 In two

01:15:12.400 weeks,

01:15:13.460 everything's

01:15:14.020 going to be

01:15:14.340 different.

01:15:15.360 Maybe worse.

01:15:16.940 Maybe better.

01:15:18.080 But any

01:15:18.580 conversation about

01:15:19.460 the details in

01:15:20.340 the next two

01:15:20.900 weeks is a

01:15:21.400 waste of

01:15:21.740 time.

01:15:22.220 Because the

01:15:22.860 whole pandemic

01:15:23.780 landscape is

01:15:24.960 going to be

01:15:25.260 completely

01:15:25.640 different in

01:15:26.160 two weeks.

01:15:26.880 By the way,

01:15:27.260 Scott Gottlieb

01:15:27.980 said that,

01:15:29.360 and he's

01:15:29.760 been a pretty

01:15:30.520 straight shooter

01:15:32.760 on the

01:15:33.460 COVID stuff.

01:15:34.100 And he's

01:15:35.100 basically saying

01:15:35.900 it looks

01:15:36.360 like Omicron

01:15:37.720 will blow

01:15:38.140 through in

01:15:38.500 two weeks.

01:15:40.760 So February

01:15:41.400 1 is looking

01:15:42.300 pretty strong

01:15:43.260 as a time

01:15:43.980 for the

01:15:44.340 public to

01:15:46.220 exert its

01:15:46.940 pressure on

01:15:47.700 its government

01:15:48.200 and say,

01:15:49.260 now's the

01:15:50.080 time.

01:15:50.960 Now's the

01:15:51.580 time to

01:15:51.860 drop the

01:15:52.220 mandates.

01:15:55.220 Is Scott

01:15:55.980 Gottlieb

01:15:56.460 behind the

01:15:56.960 curtain?

01:15:57.840 I would

01:15:58.420 guess so.

01:15:59.600 I would

01:16:00.200 guess so.

01:16:00.580 I don't

01:16:00.760 know for

01:16:01.060 sure,

01:16:01.420 but I

01:16:01.880 would guess

01:16:02.220 so.

01:16:02.400 Star

01:16:08.260 Painter

01:16:08.640 says you

01:16:09.220 are my

01:16:09.620 placebo.

01:16:10.660 Well,

01:16:11.120 allow me

01:16:11.620 to be

01:16:11.940 all of

01:16:12.300 your

01:16:12.440 placebo.

01:16:14.880 And by

01:16:15.640 the way,

01:16:16.720 this is

01:16:17.180 real.

01:16:18.500 Do you

01:16:18.760 know I

01:16:19.040 tell you

01:16:19.340 every day

01:16:19.740 that the

01:16:20.180 simultaneous

01:16:20.820 sip is

01:16:21.640 making your

01:16:22.480 antibodies

01:16:22.980 stronger?

01:16:25.340 That's

01:16:25.820 not for

01:16:26.280 nothing.

01:16:29.540 Statistically

01:16:30.020 speaking,

01:16:30.580 I would

01:16:31.980 place a

01:16:32.820 very strong

01:16:33.520 bet that

01:16:34.900 for the

01:16:35.380 regular

01:16:35.720 listeners,

01:16:36.400 your

01:16:36.500 antibodies

01:16:36.960 are

01:16:37.240 stronger

01:16:37.560 than the

01:16:37.880 average.

01:16:38.440 Would

01:16:38.680 anybody

01:16:38.920 take that

01:16:39.400 bet?

01:16:41.200 Would

01:16:41.600 anybody

01:16:41.840 take the

01:16:42.320 bet that

01:16:43.720 my regular

01:16:44.340 listeners have

01:16:45.100 stronger

01:16:45.520 antibodies?

01:16:47.660 Forget about

01:16:48.420 the vaccinations,

01:16:49.280 but have

01:16:49.540 stronger

01:16:49.900 antibodies than

01:16:50.560 the people

01:16:50.840 who don't

01:16:51.160 listen?

01:16:52.240 I'll bet

01:16:52.500 they do.

01:16:53.300 Because every

01:16:54.000 day they hear

01:16:54.580 a message that

01:16:55.220 says their

01:16:55.700 antibodies are

01:16:56.360 getting stronger.

01:16:56.920 And while you

01:16:58.780 say to

01:16:59.040 yourself,

01:16:59.400 well,

01:16:59.520 that's not

01:16:59.880 going to

01:17:00.080 talk me

01:17:00.460 into it,

01:17:01.320 cartoonist

01:17:01.900 on a

01:17:02.180 live stream,

01:17:03.100 if you

01:17:03.440 hear it

01:17:03.740 enough,

01:17:04.940 it just

01:17:05.300 becomes part

01:17:06.280 of your

01:17:06.460 programming.

01:17:07.520 So that's

01:17:07.780 why I do

01:17:08.140 it so

01:17:08.380 often.

01:17:09.900 All right,

01:17:10.600 and that,

01:17:11.640 ladies and

01:17:12.100 gentlemen,

01:17:12.880 is the end

01:17:13.340 of the best

01:17:13.700 show you've

01:17:14.240 ever seen

01:17:14.620 in your

01:17:14.840 life,

01:17:15.140 possibly the

01:17:15.720 best

01:17:15.920 experience

01:17:16.440 that anybody's

01:17:17.000 had anywhere

01:17:17.540 on any

01:17:18.080 planet in

01:17:18.640 any dimension.

01:17:20.340 And I think

01:17:20.700 that that's a

01:17:21.100 good high point

01:17:21.640 on which to

01:17:22.340 end this.

01:17:23.460 I am going

01:17:24.100 to take your

01:17:24.840 guidance

01:17:25.380 collectively,

01:17:26.220 if you

01:17:27.180 don't mind.

01:17:28.400 I'd like to

01:17:28.840 take your

01:17:29.200 advice.

01:17:30.600 And to

01:17:30.840 turn my

01:17:31.180 attention less

01:17:32.340 to this

01:17:32.880 fighting about

01:17:33.660 COVID stuff

01:17:34.420 and more

01:17:35.320 about some

01:17:35.860 things that

01:17:36.500 are fun

01:17:37.360 and useful

01:17:37.840 and just

01:17:38.880 anything else,

01:17:39.880 just anything

01:17:40.420 else.

01:17:41.140 But I'm

01:17:41.780 personally done

01:17:42.460 with masks

01:17:43.380 and stuff

01:17:45.120 like that.

01:17:45.780 I think that

01:17:46.380 in two weeks

01:17:47.140 or so,

01:17:48.920 the public

01:17:49.340 will take

01:17:49.920 control.

01:17:50.860 I never

01:17:51.620 believed that

01:17:52.160 we would be

01:17:52.680 doomed,

01:17:53.340 and I think

01:17:53.880 we're going

01:17:54.360 to be in

01:17:54.660 good shape.

01:17:55.120 the golden

01:17:55.960 age starts

01:17:57.260 whenever you

01:17:57.740 want it to.

01:17:59.000 And that,

01:17:59.700 ladies and

01:18:00.140 gentlemen,

01:18:00.940 is my show.

01:18:01.700 Thank you.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - January 05, 2022

Episode 1614 Scott Adams： Let's Talk About Taking Control Back From Teachers Unions and Government

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