Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1626 Scott Adams： Let's Talk About How to Debunk the Debunkers and Fact Check the Fact Checkers

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00:00:42.460 You're right.

00:00:43.300 I should have said beverage, not liquid.

00:00:46.140 Beverage.

00:00:47.680 I appreciate the correction.

00:00:51.620 Well, happy MLK Day.

00:00:55.280 Is everybody celebrating Martin Luther King Day

00:00:57.820 in some appropriate fashion?

00:01:01.040 Which would be...

00:01:03.320 Don't really know.

00:01:05.080 Maybe sleep extra so that you, too, can have a dream?

00:01:08.940 I don't know exactly what is the traditional way

00:01:11.240 to celebrate the holiday,

00:01:12.700 but maybe you do.

00:01:16.480 Um...

00:01:16.960 Rasmussen asked this question,

00:01:19.160 appropriate to the day.

00:01:21.900 Do you believe that men and women of all races

00:01:24.300 have equal opportunity?

00:01:25.420 Which, of course, was Martin Luther King's dream.

00:01:29.560 How many people do you think,

00:01:31.080 in the Rasmussen poll,

00:01:33.280 agree that men and women at this moment

00:01:35.980 have equal opportunity?

00:01:38.320 The answer is about a third.

00:01:40.620 Thirty-four percent.

00:01:42.860 And I said to myself,

00:01:44.640 what country are they living in?

00:01:47.440 How in the world do one-third of the country

00:01:50.900 think that we've solved,

00:01:53.880 that we have equal opportunity?

00:01:58.640 We're not even really close, are we?

00:02:01.000 If you talk to, you know,

00:02:04.580 any black person that asks the question,

00:02:07.000 do you have equal opportunity?

00:02:08.700 I'm pretty sure they could give you

00:02:10.320 some solid examples of no.

00:02:13.780 Don't you think?

00:02:14.500 Now, there are plenty of places

00:02:16.300 where things do work out

00:02:17.680 and plenty of places

00:02:18.940 where it's actually an advantage.

00:02:20.720 Say, a Fortune 500 company

00:02:22.900 might be actively recruiting

00:02:24.480 minorities, women, LGBTQ.

00:02:27.720 So there are pockets of inequality

00:02:30.180 pretty much everywhere.

00:02:33.680 So to imagine that there's equal opportunity,

00:02:36.320 I think, is weird

00:02:38.660 because there are clear places

00:02:41.760 where even white people

00:02:43.000 are being discriminated against,

00:02:45.040 specifically the Biden administration,

00:02:48.180 saying that if you're white,

00:02:49.480 you might go to the back of the line

00:02:51.220 for therapeutics and vaccines.

00:02:54.720 Now, you know, as I said,

00:02:57.900 there would be a long list of things

00:03:00.480 that every minority would say,

00:03:02.700 well, here's our list.

00:03:04.280 And there would be a lot on that list

00:03:06.220 that's true.

00:03:07.560 You'd agree with it.

00:03:08.900 But here's, I think,

00:03:09.980 the most productive way to look at it.

00:03:11.760 So equality isn't something

00:03:13.520 you can ever achieve.

00:03:14.820 Does nobody agree what it looks like?

00:03:17.420 Nobody knows what equality looks like.

00:03:20.880 We just argue about it.

00:03:22.400 It's a little bit subjective.

00:03:24.640 But here's a better frame.

00:03:28.200 Do people have equality of strategies?

00:03:32.800 Opportunity feels like

00:03:35.060 we both have the same opportunity

00:03:37.900 for the same job, for example.

00:03:39.880 But I think equality of strategy

00:03:42.900 makes more sense.

00:03:44.760 In other words,

00:03:45.320 can I find a strategy

00:03:46.500 that would leverage the fact

00:03:48.840 that I'm a white guy?

00:03:52.380 Probably.

00:03:53.420 I could probably find a way

00:03:54.800 in the United States

00:03:55.540 to take advantage of the fact

00:03:57.320 that I'm a white guy.

00:03:59.180 But if I were black,

00:04:01.640 could I also find a strategy,

00:04:03.680 a different strategy,

00:04:04.760 that would give me an edge

00:04:06.700 for being black?

00:04:08.380 And the answer is yes.

00:04:10.120 How about women?

00:04:12.180 Yes.

00:04:13.180 LBGTQ.

00:04:14.220 Yes.

00:04:15.340 Yes.

00:04:15.940 So there's definitely

00:04:17.240 a strategy

00:04:19.480 that's available for everybody.

00:04:22.140 It's a different strategy, though.

00:04:23.880 And maybe you could argue

00:04:24.880 they're not quite as awesome.

00:04:26.860 $1,000 life.

00:04:32.900 I don't even know

00:04:33.280 what that means.

00:04:34.440 Weird comments today.

00:04:36.800 Anyway,

00:04:37.580 it's weird that people think

00:04:39.120 that we have equality.

00:04:40.720 We'll never have that.

00:04:42.360 But we certainly could have

00:04:43.460 equal strategies,

00:04:44.400 or at least strategies

00:04:45.500 that are good enough.

00:04:48.940 Now, here's the shocker.

00:04:50.580 I don't know if many of you know this.

00:04:52.520 This might be the first time

00:04:53.640 you're hearing it.

00:04:54.200 But Bernie Sanders

00:04:55.660 is not good at economics.

00:04:58.540 I know.

00:04:59.720 I know.

00:05:00.460 I was surprised, too.

00:05:02.000 But as Michael Schellenberger

00:05:03.840 points out,

00:05:05.620 that Bernie Sanders

00:05:08.020 and Bill McKibben,

00:05:10.660 separately,

00:05:11.560 maybe collectively,

00:05:13.220 convinced New Englanders

00:05:14.580 that they didn't need

00:05:15.560 nuclear or natural gas.

00:05:18.020 And so now the region

00:05:19.220 is getting 25%

00:05:20.600 of its electricity

00:05:21.500 by burning oil

00:05:23.240 and desperately importing

00:05:26.000 liquefied natural gas

00:05:27.880 from the Caribbean

00:05:29.460 by ship.

00:05:31.000 Now, the problem,

00:05:31.920 of course,

00:05:32.180 is they're having

00:05:32.660 a cold snap.

00:05:34.820 So the problem

00:05:36.200 with a lot of

00:05:37.320 the green energy sources,

00:05:38.760 with the exception of nuclear,

00:05:40.200 which is green,

00:05:41.480 is that the other ones

00:05:43.020 are not consistent.

00:05:45.480 They don't,

00:05:46.500 you know,

00:05:46.940 they don't tell you

00:05:48.060 exactly what they're

00:05:49.340 going to give you and when.

00:05:51.460 And so another example

00:05:53.780 where Bernie Sanders

00:05:54.740 is, amazingly,

00:05:56.880 not good at economics.

00:05:59.060 I know.

00:05:59.540 I thought I'd start

00:06:02.640 with the shocking stuff.

00:06:07.200 Richard Grinnell

00:06:08.340 had an interesting observation

00:06:09.760 in the dogs-not-barking category,

00:06:13.020 and he tweeted this.

00:06:14.660 He said,

00:06:15.200 the intelligence leaks

00:06:18.020 have stopped.

00:06:19.340 Have they?

00:06:22.180 When was the last time

00:06:23.340 you heard a story

00:06:23.980 about an intelligence leak

00:06:25.440 or a White House insider?

00:06:29.360 It completely stopped,

00:06:30.780 didn't it?

00:06:31.960 I can't think of

00:06:33.400 any stories like that.

00:06:35.060 And then he goes on,

00:06:35.780 he says,

00:06:36.640 and it actually points

00:06:37.580 to the partisan

00:06:38.360 credibility problem

00:06:39.620 of the leakers.

00:06:41.400 It does.

00:06:43.040 And their allies

00:06:44.060 in the media.

00:06:44.620 He says,

00:06:46.460 remember when they return,

00:06:47.500 and they will return,

00:06:48.620 and they will return,

00:06:49.040 their domestic enemies.

00:06:51.620 Well,

00:06:52.740 you know,

00:06:53.280 I don't like that framing

00:06:54.260 of domestic enemy,

00:06:56.700 because, you know,

00:06:58.000 I get framed that way as well.

00:07:00.020 But

00:07:00.380 this observation

00:07:03.500 is quite on point.

00:07:05.420 suddenly,

00:07:07.440 suddenly,

00:07:08.440 suddenly people don't leak.

00:07:10.220 Boy,

00:07:10.560 anything you wondered

00:07:11.720 about the,

00:07:12.380 you know,

00:07:13.780 the deep state,

00:07:15.160 I feel like it's answered

00:07:16.820 by this alone.

00:07:18.740 Because the leaks

00:07:19.620 are so damaging,

00:07:20.540 and if it only happens

00:07:21.280 to one party,

00:07:23.640 you know,

00:07:24.140 that does tell you

00:07:25.040 something

00:07:25.320 about who's running

00:07:26.320 and stuff.

00:07:26.720 All right.

00:07:32.360 How many of you

00:07:33.300 saw Jordan Peterson

00:07:34.360 interviewing

00:07:35.840 Brett Weinstein

00:07:36.960 and Heather,

00:07:38.240 was it Heather Hare?

00:07:41.900 On evolution.

00:07:43.460 I would recommend it

00:07:44.620 highly.

00:07:46.220 It's like one

00:07:46.700 of the most fast,

00:07:48.320 am I pronouncing it right?

00:07:50.140 I was doing it

00:07:50.660 from memory.

00:07:52.360 Give me the proper

00:07:53.300 pronunciation,

00:07:54.560 because I know

00:07:54.960 I'm getting both

00:07:56.220 of their names wrong.

00:07:58.660 Hying?

00:07:59.640 Hying.

00:08:00.260 Okay.

00:08:01.600 And his first name

00:08:02.340 is Heather?

00:08:03.740 Right?

00:08:04.620 Hying.

00:08:05.720 All right.

00:08:06.140 Apologies to

00:08:07.060 all people

00:08:08.200 whose names

00:08:08.680 I say wrong.

00:08:11.180 But I got to say

00:08:12.800 that when you see

00:08:15.140 Jordan Peterson

00:08:16.200 and Brett,

00:08:17.800 and it is Heather,

00:08:19.060 right?

00:08:21.180 When you see them

00:08:22.260 talking at

00:08:23.200 the level

00:08:24.880 that they can

00:08:26.160 talk about

00:08:26.680 smart stuff,

00:08:28.320 it is actually

00:08:29.000 just,

00:08:29.640 it's kind of

00:08:30.740 thrilling,

00:08:31.380 actually.

00:08:32.480 And I don't know

00:08:33.800 if you'll have

00:08:34.160 exactly the same,

00:08:35.560 yeah,

00:08:38.160 I don't think,

00:08:38.720 I don't know

00:08:39.040 if you'll have

00:08:39.380 exactly the same

00:08:40.080 experience,

00:08:41.380 but

00:08:41.620 there are

00:08:44.720 two things

00:08:45.780 that are remarkable

00:08:46.520 about all three

00:08:47.680 of the participants.

00:08:49.400 One is that

00:08:50.220 they have,

00:08:50.620 you know,

00:08:50.780 deep knowledge

00:08:51.340 of their subject matter,

00:08:52.340 but the other

00:08:53.560 is that

00:08:54.080 you will not

00:08:55.440 find better

00:08:56.140 communicators.

00:08:58.020 Oh,

00:08:58.420 my God.

00:09:00.260 Because,

00:09:00.800 you know,

00:09:01.020 you've got the

00:09:01.780 university professor

00:09:02.880 experience on top

00:09:03.980 of the subject matter.

00:09:05.780 Oh,

00:09:06.400 my God.

00:09:07.780 Can they form

00:09:08.520 sentences on the fly?

00:09:11.240 To watch them

00:09:12.620 put together

00:09:13.640 a coherent

00:09:15.340 form of,

00:09:16.580 let's say,

00:09:17.140 a coherent

00:09:18.320 structure of

00:09:19.240 sentences

00:09:19.740 to give a

00:09:21.080 complete answer

00:09:21.860 to something

00:09:22.440 without a

00:09:23.780 wasted word?

00:09:25.740 It's,

00:09:26.320 it's like

00:09:27.260 amazing.

00:09:29.120 You know,

00:09:29.520 just as a writer,

00:09:30.840 I couldn't get over

00:09:31.820 just how their,

00:09:32.620 their verbal

00:09:33.700 capability is just

00:09:34.720 so stellar.

00:09:36.220 But on top of that,

00:09:38.000 they were talking

00:09:38.620 about a missing

00:09:39.600 part in evolution.

00:09:41.080 I'm going to do

00:09:41.660 a bad job of

00:09:42.380 explaining what

00:09:43.540 they explained,

00:09:44.500 but it does look

00:09:45.600 like there might

00:09:46.220 be something closer

00:09:47.280 to intention.

00:09:50.880 This is my own

00:09:51.860 interpretation,

00:09:52.680 not theirs.

00:09:53.720 Something closer

00:09:54.500 to intention

00:09:55.220 that's driving

00:09:55.980 evolution.

00:09:59.160 Now,

00:09:59.360 one way that

00:09:59.900 that intention

00:10:00.500 could be expressed

00:10:01.420 is in sexual

00:10:02.840 preference,

00:10:03.940 as in,

00:10:05.420 I'll make up

00:10:06.120 my own example

00:10:06.840 here,

00:10:07.180 so don't blame

00:10:08.020 them for anything

00:10:08.640 I say about it.

00:10:09.720 But suppose

00:10:10.980 you had a

00:10:11.520 giraffe who wanted

00:10:13.780 to get to the

00:10:14.540 taller leaves,

00:10:15.500 but it couldn't

00:10:16.660 reach with that

00:10:18.300 giraffe if it

00:10:19.160 were female.

00:10:20.380 Would the female

00:10:21.080 giraffe look for

00:10:22.120 a mate with a

00:10:23.660 taller neck?

00:10:25.060 Because the

00:10:25.860 giraffe's intention

00:10:26.780 is to get up to

00:10:28.400 those leaves,

00:10:29.140 but it can't do it

00:10:30.000 directly,

00:10:30.780 so does that just

00:10:31.680 get expressed in

00:10:32.540 its sexual

00:10:33.060 preference?

00:10:34.100 And then future

00:10:34.860 generations could

00:10:35.760 reach the leaves.

00:10:37.160 No, no.

00:10:37.900 I mean,

00:10:38.120 that's,

00:10:38.640 again,

00:10:39.500 this is not

00:10:40.160 coming directly

00:10:40.880 from the

00:10:42.700 experts.

00:10:43.540 I'm putting my

00:10:44.180 own sort of

00:10:46.340 speculation into

00:10:47.560 the mix.

00:10:48.580 But there does

00:10:49.640 seem to be some

00:10:50.300 mystery about

00:10:51.140 what's driving

00:10:51.760 things,

00:10:52.640 and I think

00:10:53.300 that's pretty

00:10:55.120 fascinating.

00:10:57.080 All right,

00:10:57.340 February 1 is

00:10:58.160 coming up,

00:10:58.560 only two weeks.

00:11:00.000 Feb 1,

00:11:00.600 the public is

00:11:01.140 done.

00:11:01.700 That's the

00:11:02.180 date that we

00:11:04.140 would love for

00:11:05.540 everybody to be

00:11:06.420 free of masks.

00:11:08.040 Now, usually

00:11:08.500 when I say that,

00:11:09.340 I get a bunch

00:11:10.400 of people pouring

00:11:11.020 in and say,

00:11:11.700 Scott, Scott,

00:11:12.420 Scott, I've

00:11:13.680 been done for

00:11:14.580 a long time.

00:11:15.960 I have not

00:11:16.680 worn a mask

00:11:17.460 in a long time,

00:11:18.540 and if you

00:11:19.300 cowards are

00:11:20.480 still wearing

00:11:21.020 masks, well,

00:11:21.940 that's on you.

00:11:23.380 Because don't

00:11:24.020 bring me into

00:11:25.320 this.

00:11:25.660 I stopped a

00:11:26.480 long time ago.

00:11:27.820 To which I say,

00:11:29.220 I don't think

00:11:30.420 you live in my

00:11:31.080 state, because

00:11:32.920 you're not buying

00:11:34.000 groceries without

00:11:34.800 your mask in

00:11:35.540 my state.

00:11:37.640 You can try.

00:11:39.340 But you're not

00:11:40.480 going to get

00:11:40.780 any groceries

00:11:41.260 that way.

00:11:42.600 So I've got a

00:11:43.320 feeling that all

00:11:43.840 the brave people

00:11:44.960 who have bucked

00:11:45.720 the system live

00:11:46.740 in states or

00:11:47.520 locales where

00:11:48.680 they didn't have

00:11:49.180 any masks.

00:11:50.400 But they bravely

00:11:51.400 went where they

00:11:52.860 didn't need to

00:11:53.380 have masks

00:11:54.020 without masks.

00:11:56.080 And I salute

00:11:57.020 you.

00:11:57.900 But for those

00:11:58.800 of us who are

00:11:59.380 still in oppressed

00:12:00.200 regions and just

00:12:01.700 trying to get

00:12:02.220 along until it's

00:12:02.940 over, let me

00:12:05.280 give you a report

00:12:06.060 from my idiot

00:12:07.640 part of the

00:12:08.700 country.

00:12:09.860 Now, I have

00:12:10.860 to admit, I

00:12:12.840 do normally go

00:12:13.980 through life

00:12:14.680 thinking that the

00:12:15.800 people I live

00:12:16.600 around, because

00:12:18.120 I'm in the Bay

00:12:19.100 Area, Silicon

00:12:20.260 Valley, very high

00:12:22.160 education levels

00:12:23.120 here, very high

00:12:24.120 education levels.

00:12:25.320 And I tend to

00:12:26.120 think that the

00:12:27.840 people around me

00:12:28.700 are just a little

00:12:29.520 smarter than the

00:12:30.300 average.

00:12:31.960 I guess I'm

00:12:32.720 biased by the

00:12:33.440 jobs they have

00:12:34.260 and the kinds of

00:12:35.700 educations they

00:12:36.740 have.

00:12:36.960 However, I'm

00:12:38.640 here to report

00:12:39.420 that as of the

00:12:42.260 middle of January

00:12:43.540 in 2022, something

00:12:46.040 like half of my

00:12:47.480 fucking idiot

00:12:48.360 community is

00:12:50.940 wearing masks

00:12:51.920 outdoors alone.

00:12:53.300 in 2022, in

00:12:59.580 mid-January, outdoors

00:13:02.260 alone, masks

00:13:05.420 on, about half of

00:13:06.880 the fucking idiot

00:13:07.700 public.

00:13:09.120 I, it's just

00:13:10.780 amazing.

00:13:12.140 Now, there are at

00:13:13.420 least two things

00:13:14.260 going on.

00:13:16.240 One is you can get

00:13:17.880 used to anything.

00:13:18.760 You know, I talk

00:13:20.880 about this all the

00:13:21.580 time.

00:13:22.300 Even things that

00:13:23.160 are outrageous at

00:13:24.300 first, you can

00:13:25.100 sort of just get

00:13:26.440 used to them, which

00:13:27.980 is not good.

00:13:28.900 You can get used to

00:13:29.780 things that are not

00:13:30.600 good for you.

00:13:31.720 And I feel like a

00:13:33.180 lot of people just

00:13:33.900 don't even notice

00:13:34.840 anymore.

00:13:36.000 You know, they

00:13:36.320 leave the store or

00:13:37.460 they leave their

00:13:38.300 house or whatever.

00:13:39.600 Maybe they had a

00:13:40.260 reason to put it on

00:13:40.940 in the first place.

00:13:42.140 I feel like people

00:13:43.220 just forget.

00:13:44.260 Because I have.

00:13:45.000 I've actually just

00:13:46.920 forgotten.

00:13:48.180 You know, like I'll

00:13:48.660 walk from the

00:13:49.820 supermarket to my

00:13:50.820 car and I'll keep

00:13:52.640 my mask on for

00:13:53.460 another five minutes

00:13:54.380 while I'm unloading

00:13:55.220 the groceries.

00:13:56.660 And it's not

00:13:57.200 because I'm in

00:13:58.500 danger.

00:13:59.680 It just, I

00:14:00.460 literally just

00:14:01.100 forgot.

00:14:01.840 Yeah, sometimes

00:14:02.400 because it's cold.

00:14:04.220 If you put your

00:14:05.220 mask on when it's

00:14:06.120 cold, it actually

00:14:07.560 really helps.

00:14:09.040 And so I've

00:14:09.620 actually left my

00:14:10.360 mask on if I went

00:14:11.880 outdoors and it

00:14:12.940 was cold.

00:14:13.480 Like, oh, this

00:14:14.500 mask is cold.

00:14:15.000 It's kind of

00:14:15.160 helping.

00:14:16.160 But then there's

00:14:16.720 also the, I think

00:14:17.700 it's the social

00:14:18.300 signaling mostly.

00:14:19.940 Don't you?

00:14:21.180 I think it's just

00:14:22.540 social signaling.

00:14:24.280 I don't think

00:14:25.340 they're really

00:14:25.900 afraid, but I

00:14:27.660 don't know.

00:14:28.480 Maybe the

00:14:29.040 brainwashing is,

00:14:30.220 and the fear is

00:14:31.040 so bad that they're

00:14:31.880 actually afraid

00:14:32.620 outdoors.

00:14:33.840 I don't know.

00:14:34.920 You know, people,

00:14:35.720 I think people got

00:14:36.520 spooked by the

00:14:37.260 Omicron.

00:14:37.920 Like, it can go

00:14:38.660 everywhere, it'll

00:14:39.380 get you.

00:14:40.660 Well, here's one

00:14:41.660 observation.

00:14:42.440 The local

00:14:42.900 businesses are

00:14:43.800 largely done with,

00:14:44.980 mask mandates.

00:14:46.460 Is that true where

00:14:47.960 you live?

00:14:49.200 If you're a chain

00:14:50.440 business, you've got

00:14:51.920 to do what corporate

00:14:52.600 tells you, and they're

00:14:53.920 still going to enforce

00:14:55.140 it.

00:14:55.820 If I go into the

00:14:56.680 Safeway, they're going

00:14:57.480 to enforce masks.

00:14:58.820 But if you go into a

00:14:59.860 local-owned business,

00:15:02.920 who's telling you to

00:15:03.640 put a mask on?

00:15:05.020 Anybody?

00:15:05.380 Because all the local

00:15:08.460 owned businesses have

00:15:09.760 people not wearing

00:15:10.520 masks with people

00:15:12.600 who are.

00:15:13.980 But I've never

00:15:15.400 seen a local

00:15:16.160 business tell

00:15:16.800 somebody to put a

00:15:17.480 mask on of you.

00:15:18.900 I don't think I

00:15:19.820 would.

00:15:20.860 I don't think I

00:15:22.080 will ever see a

00:15:22.980 local business do

00:15:23.940 that.

00:15:24.780 So if you're a

00:15:25.500 local gym or you're

00:15:26.700 a local restaurant

00:15:27.680 here, it's kind of

00:15:30.120 optional at this

00:15:30.780 point.

00:15:30.980 So the chains

00:15:34.040 will be the hard

00:15:34.540 ones.

00:15:36.280 Now, my estimate

00:15:37.340 is that it would

00:15:38.080 only take 10%

00:15:39.040 noncompliance on

00:15:40.720 masks to end it

00:15:42.060 wherever there are

00:15:42.660 still mandates.

00:15:44.100 Would you agree

00:15:44.880 with that estimate?

00:15:46.060 If 10% of people

00:15:47.280 just walked into

00:15:48.320 wherever you have

00:15:49.360 to have a mask

00:15:50.040 without one, and

00:15:52.480 just politely said,

00:15:53.720 oh, oh, okay,

00:15:55.040 you're going to

00:15:55.400 require me to get a

00:15:56.200 mask, but make them

00:15:57.380 come and talk to

00:15:58.080 you, just be polite

00:15:59.700 and say, oh, I'll

00:16:00.960 come back another

00:16:02.220 time when you

00:16:02.820 don't require it,

00:16:04.320 or I'll say, oh,

00:16:06.120 I've got a mask in

00:16:07.440 my pocket, I'll put

00:16:08.200 it on.

00:16:09.160 But just give them

00:16:10.020 a little bit of

00:16:10.800 friction.

00:16:12.080 If 10% of their

00:16:13.180 customers consistently

00:16:14.460 went maskless, how

00:16:16.180 soon before the

00:16:17.040 staff would give

00:16:17.860 up?

00:16:19.780 About an hour.

00:16:21.520 It'd take about

00:16:22.300 an hour.

00:16:23.320 They would give

00:16:23.820 up right away,

00:16:24.620 because they've got

00:16:25.200 work to do, right?

00:16:26.260 It's the last thing

00:16:26.940 they care about.

00:16:28.480 Let me ask you

00:16:29.300 this.

00:16:29.600 Do you know

00:16:31.000 anybody who

00:16:31.800 masks at home

00:16:33.060 within their own

00:16:34.580 house?

00:16:36.860 Do you know

00:16:37.440 anybody who does

00:16:38.120 that?

00:16:39.220 I can't think of

00:16:40.120 anybody who masks

00:16:40.860 at home.

00:16:41.840 I mean, in the

00:16:42.320 beginning of the

00:16:42.820 pandemic, you know,

00:16:44.240 service people would

00:16:45.240 mask.

00:16:46.540 But if somebody

00:16:47.260 comes to my house,

00:16:48.080 that's the first

00:16:48.560 thing I tell them

00:16:49.140 is, you know,

00:16:49.820 they're welcome to

00:16:50.660 take off their

00:16:51.180 mask.

00:16:52.240 And that's been

00:16:52.800 for a long time.

00:16:54.340 And how about

00:16:55.160 your kids?

00:16:55.720 Are your kids

00:16:57.440 not mixing with

00:16:58.300 other kids

00:16:59.480 after school

00:17:00.220 on the weekends?

00:17:02.360 All those kids

00:17:03.460 wearing masks

00:17:04.180 at their sleepovers?

00:17:06.140 There's no masking

00:17:07.300 going on unless

00:17:08.820 you're being

00:17:09.240 watched.

00:17:10.300 The public has

00:17:11.320 completely stopped

00:17:12.400 masking unless

00:17:14.220 they're being

00:17:14.760 watched.

00:17:16.000 As soon as you

00:17:16.600 get behind closed

00:17:17.380 doors, the mask

00:17:18.200 gets ripped right

00:17:19.560 off.

00:17:19.800 At least that's

00:17:20.220 the way it is

00:17:20.620 here.

00:17:22.060 Now, there may

00:17:22.860 be some mask

00:17:23.480 places that's

00:17:24.380 different.

00:17:24.600 All right.

00:17:29.200 Here are a couple

00:17:30.060 of persuasion

00:17:30.820 lessons.

00:17:31.620 Number one,

00:17:33.400 debunks always

00:17:34.400 sound more

00:17:35.120 persuasive than

00:17:36.700 the original

00:17:37.260 claim.

00:17:38.980 Would you all

00:17:39.580 agree with

00:17:39.920 that?

00:17:40.960 If you're not

00:17:42.160 an expert

00:17:42.640 yourself, and

00:17:44.260 so you hear

00:17:44.660 somebody make

00:17:45.220 a claim, but

00:17:45.860 you really can't

00:17:46.580 evaluate it, you're

00:17:47.380 not an expert, or

00:17:48.300 you don't have the

00:17:48.820 information, and

00:17:50.160 then you hear

00:17:50.580 the debunk,

00:17:52.360 doesn't the

00:17:53.000 debunk

00:17:53.520 usually sound

00:17:56.180 better than

00:17:56.600 the claim?

00:17:58.660 Yeah, not

00:17:59.080 always.

00:17:59.580 Right.

00:17:59.940 This is a

00:18:00.620 usually situation.

00:18:01.780 But in terms

00:18:02.300 of bias, you

00:18:04.140 know, not

00:18:04.400 certainty, but

00:18:05.620 just in terms of

00:18:06.300 bias.

00:18:06.980 So I'm

00:18:07.440 definitely not

00:18:08.060 telling you to

00:18:08.620 believe all the

00:18:09.220 debunks.

00:18:10.060 But here's the

00:18:10.620 problem.

00:18:11.840 Have you ever

00:18:12.320 seen a debunk

00:18:13.280 get debunked?

00:18:15.540 And I think you

00:18:16.260 have, right?

00:18:17.840 What happens

00:18:18.580 when the debunk

00:18:19.340 gets debunked?

00:18:20.360 Does that

00:18:23.060 make the

00:18:23.480 first debunk

00:18:24.240 actually look

00:18:25.540 weaker than

00:18:26.960 the new

00:18:27.340 debunk?

00:18:28.420 Is it

00:18:28.820 turtles all

00:18:29.380 the way

00:18:29.620 down?

00:18:30.600 Can you

00:18:30.920 keep debunking

00:18:31.680 the debunk

00:18:32.280 and then

00:18:32.860 debunking the

00:18:33.500 debunk of

00:18:33.980 the debunk

00:18:34.540 forever?

00:18:36.600 And that the

00:18:37.140 last thing you

00:18:37.740 say will be

00:18:38.340 the most

00:18:39.140 convincing?

00:18:41.100 Yes.

00:18:42.740 Turns out

00:18:43.580 that's exactly

00:18:44.500 what you can

00:18:45.020 do.

00:18:45.800 And that's

00:18:46.700 probably the

00:18:47.340 big reason

00:18:48.020 that in a

00:18:49.440 jury trial

00:18:50.140 the defense

00:18:51.820 gets to go

00:18:53.560 last, right?

00:18:55.020 Because it's

00:18:55.960 just so well

00:18:56.760 understood that

00:18:57.440 whoever goes

00:18:57.980 last is going

00:18:58.800 to have an

00:18:59.120 advantage.

00:18:59.900 In the same

00:19:00.380 way that a

00:19:00.840 first impression

00:19:01.560 is sticky,

00:19:02.940 the last thing

00:19:03.760 that somebody

00:19:04.160 tells you can

00:19:04.800 be pretty

00:19:05.200 sticky too.

00:19:06.260 So to make

00:19:06.780 it fair for

00:19:07.320 the defendants,

00:19:08.460 the defense

00:19:08.880 always gets

00:19:09.360 to go last.

00:19:10.980 So when we're

00:19:11.620 looking at

00:19:12.000 these claims

00:19:12.600 of anything

00:19:13.780 in science

00:19:15.140 or about

00:19:15.740 the pandemic

00:19:16.260 or whatever,

00:19:16.660 you've got

00:19:17.440 the problem

00:19:17.920 that the

00:19:18.340 claim sounds

00:19:19.100 good on

00:19:20.560 its surface

00:19:21.120 but then

00:19:22.320 the debunk

00:19:23.040 well that

00:19:24.160 sounds pretty

00:19:24.680 good but

00:19:26.040 then the

00:19:26.380 debunk

00:19:26.720 and the

00:19:26.940 debunk

00:19:27.260 and let

00:19:27.500 me give

00:19:27.700 you an

00:19:27.860 example.

00:19:28.840 Can we

00:19:29.240 agree,

00:19:29.920 I'd like

00:19:30.360 to stipulate

00:19:31.100 would you,

00:19:33.400 well I guess

00:19:34.440 I'm going to

00:19:34.660 have to make

00:19:35.020 my case.

00:19:36.620 A number

00:19:37.240 of people

00:19:37.620 were accusing

00:19:39.680 me of being

00:19:41.400 in the pocket

00:19:41.960 of big pharma.

00:19:44.420 Do you

00:19:45.040 think I'm in

00:19:45.560 the pocket

00:19:45.980 of big pharma?

00:19:49.640 I've disclosed

00:19:50.600 my investments

00:19:51.260 but I suppose

00:19:51.880 I haven't done

00:19:52.440 it in writing

00:19:53.000 so maybe

00:19:54.400 you could

00:19:54.740 doubt it.

00:19:55.720 So the

00:19:55.960 only big pharma

00:19:56.660 stock that

00:19:57.220 I've owned

00:19:57.660 was Regeneron

00:19:59.560 and that was

00:20:01.000 just for a few

00:20:01.580 months and I

00:20:02.340 took my gains

00:20:03.100 and got out.

00:20:04.420 So I've never

00:20:05.040 owned any of

00:20:05.780 the vaccination

00:20:06.280 companies except

00:20:07.420 as a component

00:20:08.820 of an index

00:20:09.600 fund.

00:20:10.400 So it's

00:20:10.720 a passive

00:20:11.560 kind of,

00:20:12.840 well not

00:20:13.220 passive but

00:20:13.880 it's just

00:20:14.560 in the soup

00:20:15.720 if you will.

00:20:17.580 So I don't

00:20:19.100 have any

00:20:19.800 kind of direct

00:20:20.280 thing and

00:20:20.680 nobody's paying

00:20:21.480 me to do

00:20:21.960 it, blah

00:20:22.600 blah.

00:20:22.940 And also

00:20:23.380 my business

00:20:24.220 model rewards

00:20:25.720 me for being

00:20:26.360 wrong as well

00:20:27.940 as being right.

00:20:29.160 If I can teach

00:20:30.340 you something by

00:20:30.960 being wrong

00:20:31.460 it would be

00:20:31.740 good content.

00:20:32.300 So I really

00:20:33.140 don't have

00:20:33.820 the incentive

00:20:34.480 to lie

00:20:37.600 or be biased

00:20:38.300 that some

00:20:39.040 people would.

00:20:39.960 Now that

00:20:40.220 doesn't make

00:20:40.680 me unbiased

00:20:41.500 right?

00:20:42.300 It doesn't

00:20:42.600 work that

00:20:42.960 way.

00:20:43.440 So everybody's

00:20:43.920 got some

00:20:44.220 bias.

00:20:44.740 I just

00:20:45.080 don't have

00:20:45.400 any of

00:20:45.660 the obvious

00:20:46.080 ones.

00:20:47.340 Whatever my

00:20:48.140 bias is,

00:20:48.760 maybe consistency.

00:20:50.220 Everybody has

00:20:50.840 a consistency

00:20:51.440 bias.

00:20:52.280 Everybody has

00:20:52.800 an ego

00:20:53.140 bias.

00:20:54.260 We all

00:20:54.620 want to be

00:20:54.980 right even

00:20:55.980 though my

00:20:56.340 business model

00:20:57.020 would reward

00:20:57.800 me either

00:20:58.180 way.

00:20:59.540 So let

00:21:04.620 me, I'm

00:21:05.440 going to talk

00:21:05.820 about a

00:21:06.180 topic that

00:21:06.840 you love to

00:21:07.220 hear about but

00:21:07.820 I don't care

00:21:08.520 about the

00:21:09.440 truth of it.

00:21:10.160 I'm going

00:21:11.020 to talk

00:21:11.280 about how

00:21:12.540 we process

00:21:13.680 it, right?

00:21:14.440 And the

00:21:14.940 topic is

00:21:15.540 ivermectin.

00:21:16.860 But let me

00:21:17.380 tell you, I

00:21:17.720 don't care if

00:21:18.180 it works.

00:21:20.440 Like I

00:21:20.860 really care

00:21:21.560 how we

00:21:22.820 figure out

00:21:23.440 if it

00:21:23.740 works.

00:21:24.840 And I'm

00:21:25.240 going to add

00:21:25.620 something to

00:21:26.260 what you've

00:21:26.820 heard before.

00:21:28.020 But I'm

00:21:29.080 not here to

00:21:29.620 argue whether

00:21:30.140 it works

00:21:30.740 because I

00:21:32.720 don't think

00:21:33.020 it makes

00:21:33.320 any difference.

00:21:34.540 Same with

00:21:35.020 masks.

00:21:36.220 I'm way past

00:21:37.160 it would be

00:21:38.140 useful to

00:21:38.920 argue whether

00:21:39.560 they work

00:21:40.140 because they're

00:21:41.240 just going

00:21:41.560 to go away

00:21:42.160 and I'm

00:21:43.260 not worried

00:21:43.600 about dying

00:21:44.180 of COVID.

00:21:47.700 So could

00:21:48.380 we, I

00:21:49.860 don't know

00:21:50.120 if you can

00:21:50.540 come with

00:21:51.640 me on this

00:21:52.160 journey, but

00:21:53.140 I don't want

00:21:53.620 to talk about

00:21:54.140 whether it

00:21:54.480 works.

00:21:54.780 I only want

00:21:55.180 to talk about

00:21:55.640 how we

00:21:55.960 processed it,

00:21:57.100 the knowledge.

00:21:58.360 And here's

00:21:58.940 my take on

00:21:59.480 it.

00:22:00.720 A little

00:22:01.220 background.

00:22:01.800 First of

00:22:02.140 all, the

00:22:02.780 more skeptical

00:22:03.480 you are, the

00:22:04.140 more gullible

00:22:04.700 you appear to

00:22:06.560 those who are

00:22:07.100 less skeptical.

00:22:07.800 That doesn't

00:22:09.820 sound immediately

00:22:11.720 obvious why

00:22:12.540 that's true,

00:22:13.120 right?

00:22:14.380 So my claim

00:22:15.220 is that

00:22:16.220 against all

00:22:16.780 common sense

00:22:17.560 that the

00:22:18.720 most skeptical

00:22:19.780 person will

00:22:21.500 appear to be

00:22:22.380 the most gullible

00:22:23.340 to people who

00:22:24.720 are less

00:22:25.220 skeptical.

00:22:26.840 Now you'll

00:22:27.200 need an example

00:22:27.900 of that, right?

00:22:29.160 Because that

00:22:29.660 doesn't make sense

00:22:30.320 on the surface.

00:22:32.020 All right, here's

00:22:33.020 an example.

00:22:33.520 I would say

00:22:35.520 that you, the

00:22:36.860 audience, correct

00:22:38.280 me if I'm

00:22:38.760 wrong, would

00:22:39.500 not trust

00:22:40.340 big pharma.

00:22:41.680 Are we

00:22:42.140 same page?

00:22:44.020 I don't

00:22:44.700 trust big pharma.

00:22:46.020 You don't

00:22:46.740 trust big pharma.

00:22:47.700 Now, do you

00:22:48.940 distrust them

00:22:49.740 more than I

00:22:50.560 do?

00:22:51.480 Well, I would

00:22:52.280 say that big

00:22:53.080 pharma would

00:22:53.740 kill people

00:22:54.420 for money.

00:22:56.560 And even

00:22:57.040 maybe millions

00:22:57.800 of people

00:22:58.240 for money.

00:23:00.100 Do you think

00:23:00.860 you trust them

00:23:01.460 less than that?

00:23:02.160 I think we

00:23:03.820 all agree

00:23:04.400 that they

00:23:06.060 would kill

00:23:06.500 millions of

00:23:07.080 people for

00:23:08.020 money.

00:23:09.840 Okay.

00:23:10.380 So, am I

00:23:11.300 so far on the

00:23:12.040 same page that

00:23:13.300 on just that

00:23:14.000 question, we

00:23:15.160 were roughly

00:23:16.100 equally skeptical?

00:23:18.580 Right?

00:23:19.300 I don't believe

00:23:20.420 what the big

00:23:22.060 pharma tells us.

00:23:22.960 I don't believe

00:23:23.380 any of the

00:23:23.800 data.

00:23:24.940 I don't believe

00:23:25.760 they have our

00:23:26.340 interests in

00:23:27.100 mind.

00:23:28.020 And I do

00:23:28.580 believe that they

00:23:29.180 would kill

00:23:29.500 millions of

00:23:30.080 people if they

00:23:30.600 could make a

00:23:31.060 profit.

00:23:32.160 They would

00:23:33.260 persuade

00:23:33.820 themselves that

00:23:34.540 they weren't

00:23:34.880 really doing

00:23:35.400 that.

00:23:36.260 So, easily

00:23:37.180 it could

00:23:37.420 happen.

00:23:38.920 Now, I

00:23:41.120 would go one

00:23:42.080 level deeper

00:23:42.820 in my skepticism

00:23:43.940 than that.

00:23:46.400 Do you

00:23:46.880 believe that

00:23:48.020 big pharma,

00:23:49.200 which would

00:23:49.840 be, let's

00:23:50.420 say, typical

00:23:51.020 of a big

00:23:51.600 company,

00:23:52.560 there's no

00:23:53.120 reason to

00:23:53.580 believe that

00:23:53.980 pharma would

00:23:55.300 be more

00:23:55.660 efficient or

00:23:56.580 better managed

00:23:57.380 than any

00:23:58.660 well-managed

00:23:59.260 company in

00:23:59.900 any other

00:24:00.460 industry?

00:24:00.920 How many

00:24:02.260 of you

00:24:02.520 believe that

00:24:03.480 big pharma

00:24:04.120 could exert

00:24:05.480 so much

00:24:06.080 control over

00:24:07.240 messaging and

00:24:08.360 reality that

00:24:09.780 they could

00:24:10.140 make something

00:24:10.860 such as

00:24:11.660 ivermectin

00:24:12.420 disappear from

00:24:15.200 use, almost,

00:24:16.620 completely, and

00:24:18.240 coerce the

00:24:19.900 entire technical

00:24:21.840 community to

00:24:23.500 disappear it?

00:24:24.660 Now, here's an

00:24:25.460 argument of how

00:24:25.980 that could easily

00:24:26.700 happen.

00:24:27.020 pharma, if

00:24:28.220 pharma only

00:24:29.020 got to

00:24:29.540 American

00:24:30.320 experts, then

00:24:32.240 other countries

00:24:32.940 would probably

00:24:33.560 fall in line

00:24:34.320 because they

00:24:35.360 did take the

00:24:36.200 lead from

00:24:36.640 America and

00:24:37.300 a lot of

00:24:37.620 stuff.

00:24:38.720 So that

00:24:39.020 makes sense.

00:24:40.100 And it's

00:24:40.460 also true that

00:24:41.160 they could

00:24:41.500 bribe just a

00:24:42.240 few people,

00:24:43.220 just a few

00:24:43.800 experts, and

00:24:45.480 that would be

00:24:45.900 enough to

00:24:46.300 convince the

00:24:46.760 other American

00:24:47.420 experts who

00:24:48.680 would just

00:24:49.040 parrot what

00:24:49.660 the first

00:24:50.600 expert said,

00:24:51.820 and then that

00:24:52.460 would be enough

00:24:52.880 to spread

00:24:53.320 everywhere, and

00:24:54.660 then they could

00:24:55.140 work with

00:24:55.740 their vassals

00:24:57.480 in social

00:24:58.300 media, and

00:24:59.480 then the

00:24:59.840 news, and

00:25:00.960 that if

00:25:01.400 somebody did

00:25:02.020 say, hey, I

00:25:03.240 think they're

00:25:03.620 lying to us,

00:25:04.680 they could get

00:25:05.240 squashed down

00:25:06.120 by, they

00:25:07.120 could be

00:25:07.460 disappeared by

00:25:08.240 the algorithms,

00:25:10.040 and then the

00:25:10.840 news would

00:25:11.680 just not talk

00:25:12.520 about the

00:25:13.540 alternative

00:25:13.960 points of

00:25:14.820 view.

00:25:15.800 So, would

00:25:17.260 we be on

00:25:18.460 the same

00:25:18.820 page skeptically

00:25:19.960 that big

00:25:21.340 pharma would

00:25:21.960 have all of

00:25:22.580 those tools

00:25:23.480 available?

00:25:24.040 They could

00:25:25.420 control social

00:25:26.600 media, they

00:25:27.720 could control

00:25:28.440 the news, they

00:25:29.860 could control

00:25:30.540 enough experts

00:25:31.860 to control

00:25:33.260 American experts

00:25:34.640 to control

00:25:36.140 international

00:25:37.140 experts.

00:25:39.180 Who would

00:25:39.980 disagree with

00:25:40.580 that?

00:25:41.400 Nobody, right?

00:25:43.480 Now, am I

00:25:44.520 just as skeptical

00:25:45.440 as you are so

00:25:46.580 far?

00:25:47.160 We're not done

00:25:47.740 yet, but what

00:25:49.320 we've talked

00:25:49.760 about so far,

00:25:50.540 are we equally

00:25:51.260 skeptical?

00:25:51.720 I think we

00:25:54.880 are.

00:25:55.780 All right, let

00:25:56.940 me take you a

00:25:57.400 little bit

00:25:57.680 deeper.

00:25:59.620 Do you

00:25:59.900 believe that a

00:26:00.700 big entity

00:26:01.280 like that,

00:26:02.120 which would

00:26:02.540 no doubt

00:26:03.000 have many

00:26:03.700 witnesses to

00:26:04.720 such a crime,

00:26:06.160 a crime that

00:26:06.880 would be in

00:26:07.740 size roughly

00:26:09.080 the size of

00:26:09.860 the Holocaust?

00:26:12.180 So, if

00:26:12.980 big pharma were

00:26:14.180 suppressing a

00:26:15.820 cheap available

00:26:17.460 cure, how big

00:26:20.000 would the crime

00:26:20.560 be?

00:26:20.880 I would say

00:26:21.340 roughly the

00:26:22.060 size of the

00:26:22.560 Holocaust.

00:26:23.640 Let's say the

00:26:24.320 Holocaust is

00:26:24.980 6 million

00:26:25.640 souls.

00:26:28.040 5 million

00:26:28.860 have died

00:26:29.340 from COVID

00:26:30.700 so far, and

00:26:32.660 if you imagine

00:26:33.580 that it might

00:26:34.120 have taken some

00:26:34.740 ramp up if

00:26:35.940 ivermectin or

00:26:36.760 something else

00:26:37.280 worked, but

00:26:38.900 there'll still be

00:26:39.460 more deaths,

00:26:40.980 let's say

00:26:41.460 something in the

00:26:42.140 neighborhood of

00:26:42.860 the Holocaust

00:26:43.520 would be the

00:26:45.180 size of the

00:26:45.780 crime.

00:26:46.360 Would you agree

00:26:46.980 with that so

00:26:47.520 far?

00:26:47.740 Now, I'm

00:26:49.480 not saying

00:26:49.920 this is true.

00:26:51.220 I'm saying

00:26:51.660 that if there

00:26:53.120 were this

00:26:53.520 global conspiracy,

00:26:54.760 it would be

00:26:55.420 Holocaust-sized.

00:26:57.300 Do you

00:26:58.000 believe that

00:26:59.340 there's nobody

00:27:00.020 smart enough

00:27:01.020 or dumb

00:27:02.520 enough who

00:27:03.700 would be aware

00:27:04.500 of this evil

00:27:05.340 who wouldn't

00:27:06.580 try to

00:27:06.980 monetize it?

00:27:10.660 Because I

00:27:11.440 don't.

00:27:12.680 I'm a little

00:27:13.640 more skeptical

00:27:14.360 than you are

00:27:15.200 about this.

00:27:16.560 I don't

00:27:17.280 believe a

00:27:18.020 company could

00:27:18.640 be so

00:27:19.380 efficient,

00:27:20.840 because remember,

00:27:21.820 I created the

00:27:22.520 Dilbert comic

00:27:23.220 based on the

00:27:24.500 observation that

00:27:25.300 companies are a

00:27:26.020 hot mess.

00:27:27.140 They can look

00:27:28.020 efficient from

00:27:28.700 the outside,

00:27:30.080 but not on

00:27:30.700 the inside.

00:27:31.800 On the inside,

00:27:32.720 every company is

00:27:33.460 a hot mess.

00:27:35.560 I will confirm

00:27:36.720 that by every

00:27:37.940 single person who

00:27:38.820 worked at any

00:27:39.380 big company.

00:27:40.240 There will be no

00:27:41.060 disagreement of that

00:27:42.140 statement.

00:27:43.020 Every big company

00:27:43.780 is a hot mess.

00:27:44.580 on the inside.

00:27:46.400 Now, do you

00:27:46.920 believe that in

00:27:47.660 that soup of

00:27:48.600 different personalities

00:27:49.640 and hot mess,

00:27:51.700 you could not

00:27:52.480 produce by now,

00:27:54.200 because some time

00:27:55.100 has gone by?

00:27:56.260 By now, you

00:27:57.760 don't think that

00:27:58.440 somebody who

00:27:59.120 would be aware

00:27:59.780 of this great

00:28:01.080 ivermectin

00:28:02.020 conspiracy, you

00:28:04.380 don't think even

00:28:05.040 one of them would

00:28:06.120 have found a way

00:28:06.900 to monetize

00:28:07.860 their knowledge?

00:28:10.040 Let me tell you

00:28:10.960 how.

00:28:11.780 Go to my

00:28:12.580 publisher, if

00:28:14.460 anybody has

00:28:15.140 that secret

00:28:15.660 knowledge, go

00:28:16.840 to my publisher

00:28:17.580 or any major

00:28:18.940 publisher and

00:28:20.180 say, I actually

00:28:21.200 do have the

00:28:21.840 inside story and

00:28:23.520 I can prove it

00:28:24.360 that we suppressed

00:28:25.740 ivermectin while

00:28:26.780 knowing it worked.

00:28:29.120 Book deal.

00:28:30.960 Millions.

00:28:32.780 Millions.

00:28:34.100 How about going

00:28:35.540 on Joe Rogan's

00:28:36.980 podcast?

00:28:37.360 Do you think Joe

00:28:38.840 Rogan would book

00:28:39.720 you as a guest if

00:28:41.400 you had worked for

00:28:42.380 one of the big

00:28:43.260 vaccine companies

00:28:44.180 and you said,

00:28:45.400 you know, I was

00:28:46.000 actually in the

00:28:46.600 room, or Merck or

00:28:48.320 somebody else, I

00:28:49.360 was in the room

00:28:50.120 and they did say

00:28:51.840 we're going to

00:28:52.380 hide this thing

00:28:53.040 and we do know

00:28:53.780 it works, but we

00:28:55.160 can make more

00:28:55.680 money the other

00:28:56.240 way.

00:28:57.300 Do you think Joe

00:28:58.060 Rogan would book

00:28:58.820 that guest?

00:29:00.580 Of course.

00:29:02.000 Do you think I

00:29:02.820 would talk about

00:29:03.480 it?

00:29:05.120 Of course.

00:29:06.820 Do you think Tim

00:29:08.520 Poole would talk

00:29:09.220 about it?

00:29:11.020 Of course.

00:29:12.440 Do you think any

00:29:13.080 of the three people

00:29:13.760 I mentioned are on

00:29:14.620 the take?

00:29:16.380 Nope.

00:29:17.680 I doubt it.

00:29:19.180 I don't think so.

00:29:20.660 I mean, I'd be

00:29:21.160 real surprised.

00:29:22.020 I'm pretty sure I

00:29:22.920 know myself, so

00:29:23.760 that's one out of

00:29:24.400 three.

00:29:25.120 And I'd be real

00:29:25.980 surprised about the

00:29:26.720 other two.

00:29:28.100 So you have an

00:29:29.320 easy path for

00:29:30.380 somebody to become

00:29:31.160 a savior.

00:29:33.140 Let me ask you

00:29:33.740 this.

00:29:35.120 Of course you're

00:29:36.040 worried about being

00:29:36.760 destroyed by big

00:29:37.700 pharma, right?

00:29:38.380 If somebody came

00:29:40.800 forward, you would

00:29:42.200 be destroyed by

00:29:43.020 big pharma.

00:29:45.360 Would you do it

00:29:46.360 anyway?

00:29:48.220 I would.

00:29:50.380 You wouldn't do

00:29:51.400 it?

00:29:52.140 Would you be so

00:29:53.120 afraid of big

00:29:53.860 pharma that you

00:29:54.640 wouldn't save

00:29:55.320 millions of lives,

00:29:57.180 be the hero of

00:29:58.320 the pandemic, and

00:30:00.240 make millions in

00:30:01.220 speaking fees and

00:30:02.240 book deals?

00:30:04.700 Really?

00:30:05.800 Now, somebody

00:30:06.320 mentioned OxyContin

00:30:08.340 and how long

00:30:09.880 their, let's say

00:30:11.040 their bad

00:30:12.760 behavior went

00:30:14.140 on.

00:30:15.160 I would argue

00:30:16.080 that they got to

00:30:17.180 hide because they

00:30:18.460 did not have as

00:30:19.160 much scrutiny.

00:30:20.580 If you're just

00:30:21.380 another company with

00:30:22.280 another product,

00:30:24.100 you can hide

00:30:24.920 pretty well because

00:30:25.640 you don't have a

00:30:26.020 lot of eyeballs on

00:30:26.780 you.

00:30:27.460 But, and the

00:30:28.460 deaths would be in

00:30:29.180 the ones and

00:30:29.680 twos, and it

00:30:30.420 would be hard to

00:30:31.020 sum up the

00:30:31.620 deaths.

00:30:31.940 Like, it was

00:30:33.300 hard to notice

00:30:34.180 that OxyContin

00:30:35.800 was killing so

00:30:36.520 many people because

00:30:37.580 nobody was keeping

00:30:38.320 the stats.

00:30:40.940 But, can you

00:30:43.080 imagine a

00:30:43.720 Holocaust-sized

00:30:44.960 crime when

00:30:46.400 everybody's looking

00:30:47.360 for that exact

00:30:48.100 crime?

00:30:49.460 So, not only do

00:30:50.420 we know exactly

00:30:51.300 who the

00:30:51.860 perpetrators would

00:30:53.020 be, it would be

00:30:54.240 the big pharma

00:30:54.840 companies.

00:30:55.740 But the entire

00:30:56.820 world and all the

00:30:58.100 experts in it are

00:30:59.480 looking at it and

00:31:00.840 we're looking at

00:31:01.420 their data.

00:31:02.860 Under those

00:31:03.560 conditions, do

00:31:05.000 you think that

00:31:05.760 any company could

00:31:06.680 be competent

00:31:07.320 enough to hide

00:31:08.860 a Holocaust-sized

00:31:11.120 crime when,

00:31:14.100 well, let me ask

00:31:14.840 this question.

00:31:15.860 I'll ask you

00:31:16.640 directly.

00:31:17.120 In the comments,

00:31:18.400 if you were in

00:31:19.200 the position to

00:31:19.920 be the whistle

00:31:20.440 blower, but the

00:31:22.180 only downside is

00:31:23.440 that the big

00:31:23.920 pharma would come

00:31:24.680 after you, would

00:31:26.280 you blow the

00:31:26.800 whistle?

00:31:27.320 Go.

00:31:28.520 Would you blow

00:31:29.360 the whistle?

00:31:29.820 Or would you

00:31:31.640 be afraid and

00:31:33.620 let millions of

00:31:34.460 people die?

00:31:38.100 You'd expect

00:31:39.000 some people to

00:31:40.080 say, no, I

00:31:40.660 wouldn't.

00:31:41.680 And that's

00:31:42.280 actually pretty

00:31:42.840 reasonable.

00:31:43.540 In terms of

00:31:44.080 self-interest, I

00:31:45.640 wouldn't criticize

00:31:46.240 that at all.

00:31:47.200 But the truth is,

00:31:48.440 humans are all

00:31:49.120 over the map.

00:31:50.160 And if you have

00:31:50.660 enough witnesses,

00:31:51.660 you get everything.

00:31:53.040 Right?

00:31:53.700 If you have

00:31:54.360 enough witnesses,

00:31:55.280 you get every

00:31:55.960 outcome.

00:31:56.880 People who don't

00:31:57.540 want to talk,

00:31:58.140 people who do

00:31:58.620 want to talk.

00:31:59.760 So I think

00:32:00.600 enough time has

00:32:01.300 gone by that

00:32:02.580 I'm very

00:32:03.120 skeptical any

00:32:03.980 big company

00:32:04.600 could be this

00:32:05.480 ruthlessly

00:32:07.080 efficient without

00:32:08.940 and imagine

00:32:11.000 they could get

00:32:11.540 away with it.

00:32:12.720 Because remember,

00:32:13.620 the lesson of

00:32:14.340 the OxyContin

00:32:15.140 story is that

00:32:16.580 they got caught.

00:32:18.160 The lesson isn't

00:32:19.300 that you could

00:32:19.720 get away with it

00:32:20.460 forever.

00:32:21.860 The lesson is,

00:32:22.720 best case scenario,

00:32:23.640 you can get away

00:32:24.240 with it temporarily.

00:32:26.040 Don't you think

00:32:26.740 that if any

00:32:27.320 executives actually

00:32:28.600 did what this

00:32:29.540 accusation is,

00:32:31.580 they would be

00:32:32.220 killed?

00:32:33.960 Now when I say

00:32:34.780 they would be

00:32:35.240 killed, I don't

00:32:36.360 mean they would

00:32:36.840 be executed by

00:32:37.700 the state.

00:32:39.100 I mean they

00:32:39.600 would be treated

00:32:40.280 the way a

00:32:41.920 Nazi Holocaust

00:32:43.960 prison guard

00:32:45.560 would be treated

00:32:46.300 when the camp

00:32:47.880 was liberated,

00:32:49.140 if you know

00:32:49.460 what I mean.

00:32:50.660 I don't think

00:32:51.480 they went on

00:32:51.940 trial, if you

00:32:53.380 know what I

00:32:53.740 mean.

00:32:54.280 I think the

00:32:54.940 public would

00:32:55.380 actually kill

00:32:55.900 them.

00:32:57.960 So the risk

00:32:58.840 of the big

00:33:00.800 pharma executives,

00:33:02.080 should they

00:33:02.660 have been

00:33:03.100 involved in

00:33:03.900 a Holocaust

00:33:04.580 sized crime,

00:33:06.120 which is

00:33:06.600 exactly the

00:33:07.260 accusation,

00:33:08.360 that's the

00:33:08.840 accusation,

00:33:09.840 that they

00:33:10.200 were involved

00:33:11.580 in a Holocaust

00:33:12.440 sized crime,

00:33:13.980 we would

00:33:14.500 kill them.

00:33:16.940 Am I right?

00:33:17.900 the only way

00:33:19.340 they could ever

00:33:19.940 not be killed

00:33:20.680 by the public

00:33:21.380 is if the

00:33:22.080 legal system

00:33:22.880 protected them

00:33:24.300 first, and

00:33:25.520 you got them

00:33:25.960 into some

00:33:26.500 kind of

00:33:26.760 protective

00:33:27.140 custody.

00:33:27.940 The moment

00:33:28.660 the public

00:33:29.200 found out,

00:33:30.360 and we

00:33:30.840 would,

00:33:31.760 eventually,

00:33:33.000 right?

00:33:33.520 There's no way

00:33:34.200 you could hide

00:33:34.620 this crime for

00:33:35.360 five years,

00:33:37.300 ten years,

00:33:38.080 do you think?

00:33:39.300 Do you think

00:33:39.760 this kind of

00:33:40.300 crime could be

00:33:40.860 hidden for ten

00:33:41.520 years?

00:33:43.220 I mean, even

00:33:43.680 though the

00:33:43.980 Oxycontin was

00:33:44.760 because nobody

00:33:45.500 was looking for

00:33:46.100 that crime.

00:33:46.500 somebody says

00:33:48.220 yes.

00:33:49.460 Yes, in the

00:33:50.400 sense that it's

00:33:50.840 possible, but

00:33:52.440 with so much

00:33:53.840 attention on

00:33:54.640 this topic, I

00:33:55.420 don't think it

00:33:55.840 is.

00:33:56.660 So I would

00:33:57.740 say I'm more

00:33:58.400 skeptical than

00:33:59.280 you on the

00:34:00.740 efficiency of

00:34:02.580 big companies.

00:34:04.440 But it's a

00:34:05.200 subject, it's

00:34:05.980 subjective,

00:34:06.880 right?

00:34:07.140 You would

00:34:07.500 say, no,

00:34:07.920 no, Scott,

00:34:08.800 I'm more

00:34:10.100 skeptical than

00:34:10.900 you because I

00:34:12.440 think they're

00:34:12.820 so evil, but

00:34:14.240 do you believe

00:34:14.880 they're so

00:34:15.300 efficient?

00:34:16.500 I don't

00:34:17.300 know that

00:34:17.620 you do, do

00:34:18.160 you?

00:34:19.140 Really?

00:34:20.640 Really?

00:34:21.560 You think

00:34:21.960 they're that

00:34:22.300 efficient?

00:34:24.180 I believe that

00:34:25.340 the people who

00:34:25.820 have worked for

00:34:26.540 large companies

00:34:27.300 would say no.

00:34:28.480 Oh, actually,

00:34:29.460 let me do a

00:34:30.460 quick poll.

00:34:32.500 If I may,

00:34:34.600 could we agree

00:34:35.520 just for the

00:34:36.400 collective

00:34:37.960 entertainment of

00:34:38.880 all of us,

00:34:39.860 just the people

00:34:40.800 who have

00:34:41.040 experience in

00:34:41.700 large companies?

00:34:42.520 do large

00:34:44.780 companies have

00:34:45.520 the skill to

00:34:46.600 pull off this

00:34:47.620 size of a

00:34:48.500 Holocaust crime

00:34:50.440 and get away

00:34:52.100 with it in

00:34:52.560 perpetuity?

00:34:53.820 Just the

00:34:54.480 people who work

00:34:55.000 for big

00:34:55.340 companies, I

00:34:56.180 see a wall

00:34:57.180 of no's.

00:34:58.220 They are not

00:34:58.640 capable of

00:34:59.240 doing it.

00:35:00.780 Right?

00:35:01.240 So, if you

00:35:02.000 don't have big

00:35:02.640 company experience,

00:35:03.980 look to the

00:35:04.640 people who do.

00:35:06.420 All right?

00:35:06.820 It doesn't

00:35:07.220 mean they're

00:35:07.540 right.

00:35:08.220 I mean, that's

00:35:08.660 not confirmation

00:35:09.400 of anything.

00:35:10.420 But I would

00:35:11.680 take them

00:35:12.120 seriously because

00:35:13.340 it's sort of

00:35:13.880 a lot of

00:35:15.540 people saying

00:35:16.020 no, they're

00:35:17.440 not that

00:35:17.840 competent.

00:35:20.720 And remember,

00:35:21.920 the difference

00:35:23.420 is that

00:35:24.180 everybody's

00:35:24.720 looking.

00:35:25.740 If nobody's

00:35:26.480 looking for

00:35:26.980 the crime,

00:35:27.500 then they're

00:35:28.560 all that

00:35:29.020 competent.

00:35:30.200 Any big

00:35:31.020 company can

00:35:31.540 get away with

00:35:32.000 a crime that

00:35:32.520 nobody's

00:35:32.880 looking for.

00:35:35.460 All right.

00:35:37.000 I came up

00:35:37.800 with a new

00:35:38.140 way to

00:35:38.580 describe this

00:35:39.720 thing, I

00:35:40.040 call it

00:35:40.340 binary syndrome,

00:35:41.460 which is

00:35:41.940 where people

00:35:42.520 who have

00:35:42.880 opinions that

00:35:43.720 don't fit the

00:35:44.320 two teams,

00:35:45.720 they get

00:35:47.000 snap to

00:35:48.000 guide.

00:35:48.960 Have you

00:35:49.220 ever used

00:35:49.560 software that

00:35:50.120 has a menu

00:35:50.900 choice called

00:35:52.140 snap to

00:35:53.260 guide?

00:35:54.360 It means you

00:35:54.980 take an object

00:35:56.000 you're moving

00:35:56.520 on your screen

00:35:57.280 and you get

00:35:58.160 it near a

00:35:58.620 guideline and

00:35:59.320 it just

00:36:00.640 snaps to

00:36:01.460 it.

00:36:01.960 So you

00:36:02.260 don't have

00:36:02.580 to figure out

00:36:03.080 exactly whether

00:36:04.000 it's lining up.

00:36:04.780 It just

00:36:05.000 snaps to the

00:36:05.640 guide you put

00:36:06.120 there.

00:36:06.980 Well, that's

00:36:07.360 what it feels

00:36:07.760 like when

00:36:08.740 people see

00:36:09.280 my opinions.

00:36:11.100 If they

00:36:11.440 can sniff

00:36:13.240 that my

00:36:14.360 opinion has

00:36:15.000 any kind

00:36:15.680 of a sense

00:36:16.460 of leaning

00:36:16.940 in one

00:36:17.340 direction,

00:36:18.260 they snap

00:36:18.880 to guide.

00:36:20.200 And then

00:36:20.880 they're done.

00:36:22.920 That's their

00:36:23.660 entire thinking

00:36:24.300 process.

00:36:25.380 Snap to

00:36:25.980 guide.

00:36:27.080 And so

00:36:27.420 the binaries,

00:36:28.680 it creates

00:36:29.180 that binary

00:36:29.800 syndrome.

00:36:31.200 And so you

00:36:31.580 can get this

00:36:32.020 sort of

00:36:32.260 thing.

00:36:33.700 At exactly

00:36:34.720 the same

00:36:35.240 time,

00:36:37.220 while I

00:36:40.440 was tweeting

00:36:40.840 to debunk

00:36:41.600 a debunk,

00:36:43.000 somebody was

00:36:43.780 online criticizing

00:36:44.860 me for never

00:36:45.700 debunking that

00:36:46.540 debunk.

00:36:48.820 So I could

00:36:49.380 actually be,

00:36:50.220 people will

00:36:50.760 accuse me of

00:36:51.500 not doing the

00:36:53.100 thing that I'm

00:36:54.320 doing at exactly

00:36:55.260 the same time

00:36:56.120 where they are.

00:36:57.860 Like right where

00:36:58.480 they are.

00:36:58.920 I'm doing

00:36:59.300 the thing.

00:37:00.100 You're not

00:37:00.540 doing the

00:37:00.940 thing.

00:37:01.640 Well, I'm

00:37:01.960 doing the

00:37:02.260 thing right

00:37:02.620 now.

00:37:03.260 You don't

00:37:03.600 do the

00:37:03.920 thing.

00:37:04.580 Well, look

00:37:04.900 over here.

00:37:05.400 I'm doing

00:37:05.700 the thing.

00:37:06.680 And it's

00:37:07.240 like a

00:37:07.780 cognitive

00:37:08.200 blindness.

00:37:08.920 It's just

00:37:09.140 incredible.

00:37:09.580 I'll give

00:37:09.760 you an

00:37:09.920 example of

00:37:10.320 that exact

00:37:10.780 thing.

00:37:12.000 But on

00:37:13.240 the plus

00:37:13.680 side, I

00:37:14.160 noticed that

00:37:14.580 Twitter has

00:37:15.080 saved me a

00:37:15.520 lot of time

00:37:15.960 and energy.

00:37:17.200 Because do

00:37:17.940 you know how

00:37:18.220 much energy it

00:37:18.840 takes to

00:37:19.440 figure out your

00:37:20.140 own priorities

00:37:20.880 and come up

00:37:22.140 with your own

00:37:22.600 opinion?

00:37:23.860 It's hard.

00:37:25.240 It's a lot

00:37:25.600 of energy.

00:37:26.340 But you don't

00:37:26.720 need that

00:37:27.060 anymore because

00:37:27.600 I can just

00:37:28.040 go on

00:37:28.360 Twitter and

00:37:29.580 people will

00:37:30.100 tell me what

00:37:30.700 I'm thinking

00:37:31.200 and what my

00:37:31.900 priorities are.

00:37:33.740 For example,

00:37:34.760 today I learned

00:37:35.520 from someone

00:37:36.220 else on

00:37:36.740 Twitter that

00:37:38.660 I'm not

00:37:39.200 interested in

00:37:39.920 the truth.

00:37:41.620 And honestly,

00:37:42.280 I thought I

00:37:42.900 was better

00:37:43.240 than that.

00:37:44.940 I hoped I

00:37:45.900 was interested

00:37:46.600 in the truth.

00:37:47.580 But until I

00:37:48.260 read this tweet

00:37:48.880 from a total

00:37:49.820 stranger who

00:37:50.740 has access to

00:37:51.480 my inner

00:37:51.780 thoughts,

00:37:52.820 now I know

00:37:53.980 I'm not

00:37:54.440 interested in

00:37:54.980 the truth.

00:37:55.460 which is

00:37:56.920 very disappointing

00:37:57.700 and I

00:37:58.220 honestly I

00:38:00.220 lowered my

00:38:00.740 opinion of

00:38:01.280 myself when

00:38:01.880 I learned

00:38:02.200 this because

00:38:03.000 it's amazing

00:38:05.840 how you can

00:38:06.280 be fooled but

00:38:07.260 I just don't

00:38:08.160 have any

00:38:08.460 interest in

00:38:08.920 the truth.

00:38:09.940 And thank

00:38:10.340 you stranger

00:38:10.920 for straightening

00:38:11.760 that out for

00:38:13.080 me.

00:38:13.320 It's disheartening.

00:38:14.200 It is.

00:38:16.600 So here's my

00:38:17.640 snap to grid

00:38:18.700 problem.

00:38:19.660 I believe that

00:38:20.560 there are two

00:38:22.000 camps.

00:38:22.900 One camp

00:38:23.700 says Ivermectin

00:38:25.380 works and

00:38:27.100 it's being

00:38:27.500 suppressed by

00:38:28.460 Big Pharma.

00:38:29.960 The other

00:38:30.660 camp says

00:38:31.320 Ivermectin

00:38:32.280 doesn't work

00:38:33.420 and there's

00:38:35.380 no suppression

00:38:36.220 going on

00:38:36.760 whatsoever.

00:38:38.580 My opinion

00:38:39.540 is not one

00:38:40.260 of those.

00:38:41.720 My opinion

00:38:42.280 is in all

00:38:43.140 likelihood,

00:38:43.780 at least based

00:38:44.620 on incomplete

00:38:46.320 data,

00:38:47.920 there's no

00:38:48.960 evidence that

00:38:49.640 I'm convinced

00:38:50.340 Ivermectin

00:38:51.280 works but

00:38:52.980 Big Pharma

00:38:54.640 is trying

00:38:55.300 to suppress

00:38:56.000 it.

00:38:57.400 So there

00:38:57.700 are two

00:38:57.960 reasons that

00:38:58.640 Big Pharma

00:38:59.140 would want

00:38:59.680 to suppress

00:39:00.260 Ivermectin.

00:39:01.600 One reason

00:39:02.440 is that it

00:39:02.980 works.

00:39:04.700 The other

00:39:05.400 reason is

00:39:05.900 that it

00:39:06.180 doesn't

00:39:06.460 work.

00:39:12.200 Let's see.

00:39:14.680 Am I

00:39:16.440 right?

00:39:17.320 There would

00:39:18.020 be two

00:39:18.400 reasons to

00:39:19.080 suppress Ivermectin.

00:39:20.200 one because

00:39:21.280 it worked

00:39:21.880 and they

00:39:22.840 didn't want

00:39:23.180 to compete

00:39:23.580 with it

00:39:24.000 and the

00:39:24.920 other because

00:39:25.380 it didn't

00:39:25.940 work and

00:39:27.220 they didn't

00:39:27.600 want to

00:39:27.880 compete with

00:39:28.340 it.

00:39:29.680 Do you see

00:39:30.340 that?

00:39:31.580 They would

00:39:32.140 have two

00:39:32.680 equally very

00:39:33.880 compelling

00:39:34.260 reasons to

00:39:34.940 kill Ivermectin.

00:39:36.400 One that it

00:39:36.980 worked and

00:39:38.100 one that it

00:39:38.580 didn't work

00:39:39.080 because you'd

00:39:40.000 be competing

00:39:40.580 with it whether

00:39:41.160 it worked or

00:39:41.780 not and

00:39:43.080 why would

00:39:44.080 they want to

00:39:44.460 compete with

00:39:44.900 it?

00:39:46.340 So just

00:39:47.480 the fact that

00:39:48.600 they're squelching

00:39:49.640 it doesn't

00:39:50.400 tell you

00:39:50.700 anything about

00:39:51.240 whether it

00:39:51.600 works, does

00:39:52.540 it?

00:39:53.920 I don't think

00:39:54.640 it does.

00:39:55.240 You could

00:39:55.700 confirm that

00:39:56.380 they're trying

00:39:56.780 to stop it,

00:39:58.340 maybe, but

00:39:59.520 that wouldn't

00:39:59.840 tell you

00:40:00.100 whether it

00:40:00.440 worked.

00:40:01.840 So that's

00:40:02.620 the first

00:40:02.920 thing.

00:40:04.500 And I

00:40:04.980 know that's

00:40:05.400 tough.

00:40:07.080 The other

00:40:07.360 thing that I've

00:40:07.780 been hearing a

00:40:08.280 lot is the

00:40:09.700 doctor who

00:40:10.360 said one of

00:40:12.040 them treated

00:40:12.460 500 patients,

00:40:13.660 this is one I

00:40:14.280 heard yesterday,

00:40:15.420 with Ivermectin

00:40:16.300 and out of

00:40:16.920 500 patients,

00:40:18.500 nearly every

00:40:19.440 one of them

00:40:20.000 recovered,

00:40:21.480 almost 100%.

00:40:22.780 So that's

00:40:24.900 pretty good.

00:40:25.620 And then

00:40:25.800 there was

00:40:26.100 another doctor

00:40:29.220 who treated

00:40:29.780 120 patients

00:40:31.260 or so with

00:40:32.080 Ivermectin and

00:40:33.900 every one of

00:40:35.000 them had a

00:40:35.620 good result out

00:40:37.100 of 120.

00:40:38.580 That's pretty

00:40:39.060 convincing.

00:40:40.160 Now that same

00:40:40.740 doctor reportedly

00:40:41.760 treated himself

00:40:43.380 with Ivermectin

00:40:44.260 when he got it

00:40:45.760 and it didn't

00:40:46.660 work at all for

00:40:47.280 him and it

00:40:48.200 didn't work for

00:40:48.660 any of his

00:40:49.060 friends and

00:40:49.800 his close

00:40:50.580 associates when

00:40:51.260 he tried it

00:40:51.640 with them.

00:40:52.320 But for all

00:40:52.840 the people who

00:40:53.380 took it and

00:40:53.920 then left his

00:40:54.540 office and

00:40:55.460 never reported

00:40:56.180 back, it

00:40:57.720 worked perfectly.

00:40:59.520 So that's

00:41:00.120 what's called

00:41:00.500 anecdotal science

00:41:01.580 and it's very

00:41:02.180 compelling.

00:41:05.500 Now I

00:41:07.400 compared this

00:41:09.180 to another

00:41:10.180 trial.

00:41:10.760 I did a

00:41:11.100 trial on my

00:41:11.660 own in which

00:41:12.540 I tried

00:41:13.000 praying for

00:41:14.620 all the people

00:41:15.320 that those

00:41:16.120 doctors were

00:41:17.500 treating and

00:41:18.160 also all of

00:41:19.040 the other

00:41:19.320 people in

00:41:19.720 the world

00:41:20.140 who had

00:41:20.960 COVID.

00:41:21.880 And I

00:41:22.340 only did

00:41:22.660 it for 24

00:41:23.260 hours.

00:41:23.820 I didn't

00:41:24.040 like, it

00:41:24.740 wasn't day

00:41:25.180 after day.

00:41:25.720 So I

00:41:25.900 just went

00:41:26.240 to one

00:41:26.560 day of

00:41:26.860 praying that

00:41:28.160 the people

00:41:28.540 who were

00:41:28.760 infected with

00:41:29.300 COVID would

00:41:29.820 recover.

00:41:31.340 And let me

00:41:32.100 tell you how

00:41:32.500 I did.

00:41:33.420 And I'm

00:41:33.720 proud of

00:41:34.060 this.

00:41:35.900 99% of

00:41:37.040 the people

00:41:37.400 I prayed

00:41:37.900 for,

00:41:39.920 full recovery.

00:41:40.900 99%.

00:41:44.720 And I

00:41:48.160 know what

00:41:48.480 you're

00:41:48.640 thinking.

00:41:49.020 You're

00:41:49.160 thinking that

00:41:49.660 the natural

00:41:50.240 recovery rate

00:41:51.060 is actually

00:41:52.040 99.7%.

00:41:53.740 So there

00:41:54.900 is some

00:41:55.260 indication that

00:41:55.940 I prayed to

00:41:56.440 the wrong

00:41:56.840 God, because

00:41:57.960 I believe I

00:41:58.920 may have

00:41:59.400 killed over

00:42:00.060 a million

00:42:00.380 people by

00:42:01.640 incorrect

00:42:02.120 praying.

00:42:02.820 So I only

00:42:03.340 got a 99%

00:42:04.300 effectiveness rate

00:42:05.220 when doing

00:42:05.960 nothing at all

00:42:06.580 would give

00:42:06.900 you 99.7%

00:42:07.980 apparently.

00:42:09.080 But still,

00:42:10.900 I think you

00:42:12.520 have to

00:42:12.760 consider this

00:42:13.380 as part of

00:42:13.800 the anecdotal

00:42:14.360 science.

00:42:17.380 Now, I

00:42:18.860 sent around

00:42:19.300 a debunk

00:42:20.380 on ivermectin

00:42:21.760 that was in

00:42:22.180 the BBC.

00:42:23.700 And then

00:42:24.160 somebody sent

00:42:24.760 me a

00:42:25.180 debunk of

00:42:26.720 the BBC's

00:42:27.500 debunk.

00:42:29.240 But I

00:42:29.880 also sent

00:42:30.320 a fact

00:42:30.700 check that

00:42:32.440 debunked

00:42:33.480 ivermectin.

00:42:34.800 And then

00:42:35.420 somebody sent

00:42:36.020 me a

00:42:37.120 debunk of

00:42:38.740 the fact

00:42:39.120 check.

00:42:40.900 Well, what

00:42:42.080 the hell

00:42:42.360 am I going

00:42:42.720 to do

00:42:42.940 now?

00:42:46.200 Somebody

00:42:46.600 said in

00:42:46.960 the comments,

00:42:47.460 or I

00:42:47.760 could be

00:42:48.040 an idiot.

00:42:49.160 I never

00:42:49.820 rule out

00:42:50.260 that

00:42:50.440 possibility.

00:42:52.820 So how

00:42:53.360 do you

00:42:53.520 know if

00:42:53.780 the

00:42:53.880 debunk is

00:42:54.360 better or

00:42:54.940 not?

00:42:55.400 Well, let

00:42:56.160 me tell

00:42:56.420 you what

00:42:57.540 the claims

00:42:58.160 are and

00:42:58.640 then the

00:42:58.980 debunks.

00:42:59.900 And I'm

00:43:00.300 not going

00:43:00.580 to claim

00:43:00.900 that the

00:43:01.340 claim is

00:43:01.800 right or

00:43:02.500 that the

00:43:02.860 debunk is

00:43:03.380 right.

00:43:03.660 if you

00:43:05.380 can allow

00:43:05.840 me to

00:43:06.880 be divorced

00:43:07.420 from what's

00:43:08.040 true,

00:43:08.800 because I

00:43:09.120 don't think

00:43:09.460 we can

00:43:09.740 solve that,

00:43:10.940 to just

00:43:11.340 talk about

00:43:11.880 how we

00:43:12.400 process it,

00:43:13.200 right?

00:43:14.360 And so

00:43:15.660 suppose you

00:43:16.240 heard that

00:43:16.640 there were

00:43:17.180 72 studies,

00:43:19.240 some say

00:43:19.760 26, but a

00:43:20.780 whole bunch

00:43:21.160 of studies,

00:43:21.620 there are

00:43:21.860 dozens of

00:43:23.040 studies that

00:43:24.540 collectively,

00:43:25.920 if you look

00:43:26.380 at them

00:43:26.580 together,

00:43:27.040 they indicate

00:43:27.640 that ivermectin

00:43:28.620 works.

00:43:29.060 Is that

00:43:31.220 convincing?

00:43:32.340 So there

00:43:33.020 are some

00:43:33.320 experts who

00:43:33.980 have actual

00:43:34.540 credentials that

00:43:35.780 say it

00:43:36.120 works.

00:43:37.040 There are

00:43:37.520 people who

00:43:37.920 use it who

00:43:38.460 say it

00:43:38.780 works.

00:43:40.300 And then

00:43:41.000 there are

00:43:41.560 dozens of

00:43:42.260 studies that

00:43:44.400 say it

00:43:44.700 works.

00:43:45.440 So that's

00:43:45.880 the claim.

00:43:46.780 It's pretty

00:43:47.320 convincing.

00:43:47.960 Would you

00:43:48.260 agree?

00:43:49.760 If that's

00:43:50.380 all you ever

00:43:50.860 heard was

00:43:51.340 those things,

00:43:52.720 that would

00:43:53.020 be pretty

00:43:53.400 convincing.

00:43:54.700 Now then

00:43:55.120 you say,

00:43:55.700 but the

00:43:56.320 big pharma

00:43:56.860 says it

00:43:57.300 doesn't work.

00:43:57.920 And then

00:43:58.840 you say,

00:43:59.320 of course

00:43:59.780 they do.

00:44:00.760 Of course

00:44:01.200 they say it

00:44:01.620 doesn't work.

00:44:02.080 That doesn't

00:44:02.360 mean anything.

00:44:03.400 I'm still

00:44:03.880 convinced it

00:44:04.420 worked.

00:44:05.100 Because the

00:44:05.460 people who

00:44:05.780 say it

00:44:06.020 doesn't work,

00:44:06.600 they're not

00:44:06.860 credible.

00:44:08.040 But then

00:44:08.580 the government

00:44:09.060 says it

00:44:09.560 doesn't work.

00:44:10.180 And you

00:44:10.320 say, wait

00:44:10.720 a minute,

00:44:11.120 the government

00:44:11.540 always lies

00:44:12.160 to us.

00:44:13.120 That doesn't

00:44:13.560 mean anything.

00:44:14.000 Throw that

00:44:14.680 down.

00:44:15.340 Still believe

00:44:15.900 the claim.

00:44:17.140 But what

00:44:17.560 about the

00:44:17.920 other experts?

00:44:19.760 The other

00:44:20.480 experts say

00:44:22.020 it doesn't

00:44:22.460 work.

00:44:23.680 They've been

00:44:24.240 wrong.

00:44:25.960 The rogues

00:44:26.680 say it

00:44:27.080 does work,

00:44:27.560 and they've

00:44:27.800 got really

00:44:28.140 good credentials.

00:44:29.840 Not only

00:44:30.340 that, but

00:44:31.480 you've got

00:44:31.740 all these

00:44:32.080 studies that

00:44:32.660 say it

00:44:33.000 works.

00:44:33.580 You've got

00:44:33.880 doctors that

00:44:34.500 use it to

00:44:35.060 say it

00:44:35.320 works.

00:44:35.880 I believe

00:44:36.380 the claim.

00:44:37.500 Is that

00:44:37.940 where many

00:44:38.380 of you are?

00:44:39.600 Did I

00:44:40.220 describe where

00:44:41.040 many of

00:44:41.500 you are

00:44:42.960 roughly in

00:44:44.220 your current

00:44:44.640 thinking?

00:44:46.440 Probably some

00:44:47.040 yeses and

00:44:47.580 noes.

00:44:48.300 All right.

00:44:48.820 So here's what

00:44:49.440 the debunk

00:44:49.940 looks like.

00:44:50.760 Oh, and

00:44:50.960 then part of

00:44:51.360 the claim is,

00:44:52.240 and this is a

00:44:52.900 strong part of

00:44:53.380 the claim,

00:44:53.660 that it

00:44:54.400 actually has

00:44:54.960 worked in

00:44:56.200 places like

00:44:57.040 Israel, in

00:44:58.920 one area

00:45:00.100 within India,

00:45:01.400 Uttar Pradesh,

00:45:03.200 and they

00:45:03.520 totally crushed

00:45:04.260 it, and

00:45:06.340 some other

00:45:06.820 places.

00:45:07.760 So then you

00:45:08.180 look at the

00:45:08.600 debunk, and

00:45:09.840 let's look at

00:45:10.380 this Uttar

00:45:11.020 Pradesh place as

00:45:12.640 a good example,

00:45:13.860 because Dr.

00:45:14.520 Malone, one of

00:45:16.620 the proponents of

00:45:17.460 ivermectin,

00:45:18.080 just tweeted

00:45:20.700 showing that

00:45:22.760 there was an

00:45:23.520 actual written

00:45:24.100 guide and a

00:45:24.900 little packet

00:45:25.360 that included

00:45:26.440 ivermectin for

00:45:27.380 that area, and

00:45:28.980 he was asking

00:45:30.360 for an apology,

00:45:32.060 because he had

00:45:33.080 made the claim

00:45:33.700 that they got

00:45:35.320 ivermectin in

00:45:37.720 that region,

00:45:38.260 and it crushed,

00:45:39.680 and the data

00:45:40.300 says that the

00:45:41.400 deaths went

00:45:42.180 down to

00:45:42.600 practically

00:45:42.960 nothing.

00:45:44.420 So here's

00:45:45.100 what Dr.

00:45:45.580 Malone has

00:45:46.260 proven.

00:45:48.080 He's proven

00:45:49.180 that Uttar

00:45:50.660 Pradesh did

00:45:51.600 in fact give

00:45:52.380 ivermectin to

00:45:53.340 its people,

00:45:54.500 because there

00:45:54.820 was an actual

00:45:55.360 photo of the

00:45:56.180 kit that they

00:45:56.780 got.

00:45:57.840 That seemed

00:45:58.240 pretty good

00:45:58.760 evidence.

00:45:59.840 And then the

00:46:00.460 data shows that

00:46:02.160 the death rate

00:46:02.760 from COVID went

00:46:03.600 to basically

00:46:04.080 zero.

00:46:05.960 That's pretty

00:46:06.740 convincing,

00:46:07.380 wouldn't you

00:46:07.700 say?

00:46:08.700 Anybody?

00:46:10.020 Are you

00:46:10.700 convinced yet?

00:46:12.320 I mean, it's

00:46:12.740 kind of adding

00:46:13.260 up.

00:46:13.900 You've got

00:46:14.180 dozens of

00:46:14.740 studies that

00:46:15.260 say it

00:46:15.520 works.

00:46:15.980 You've got

00:46:16.320 lots of

00:46:17.560 doctors,

00:46:17.920 doctors that

00:46:18.140 say they

00:46:18.440 used it

00:46:18.860 and it

00:46:19.000 works.

00:46:19.660 You've got

00:46:20.100 some credible

00:46:20.640 experts who

00:46:21.980 say not only

00:46:22.640 does it

00:46:22.940 work, in

00:46:24.220 theory, it's

00:46:24.980 working in

00:46:25.420 the real

00:46:25.700 world.

00:46:26.680 Here's the

00:46:27.180 region.

00:46:28.200 We proved

00:46:28.860 they're using

00:46:29.380 it.

00:46:30.000 And here's

00:46:30.500 their data.

00:46:31.120 We proved

00:46:31.740 that the

00:46:32.220 death rate

00:46:34.060 went to

00:46:34.440 zero.

00:46:35.100 How many

00:46:35.680 of you are

00:46:36.220 convinced the

00:46:37.620 claim is

00:46:38.340 valid?

00:46:40.280 Based on

00:46:41.100 that.

00:46:41.860 If that's

00:46:45.680 all you

00:46:45.960 heard, it's

00:46:46.800 pretty darn

00:46:47.560 convincing, I'd

00:46:49.140 have to

00:46:49.420 say.

00:46:50.260 But here's

00:46:50.740 something maybe

00:46:51.420 you didn't

00:46:51.800 hear.

00:46:52.820 Now, I'm

00:46:53.120 not saying

00:46:53.460 it's true,

00:46:54.520 because this

00:46:54.960 is just the

00:46:56.080 debunk.

00:46:57.180 Because somebody

00:46:57.740 is going to

00:46:58.120 debunk the

00:46:58.640 debunk, you

00:46:59.280 know that,

00:47:00.020 right?

00:47:00.760 Somebody will.

00:47:01.840 But here's the

00:47:02.400 debunk, and

00:47:03.000 see if it

00:47:03.340 changes your

00:47:03.840 mind.

00:47:04.100 In Anur

00:47:07.140 Pradesh, during

00:47:08.060 the time that

00:47:08.680 there were

00:47:08.980 zero COVID

00:47:09.940 deaths, there

00:47:11.660 were zero of

00:47:12.540 any kind of

00:47:13.160 deaths.

00:47:14.620 In other

00:47:14.940 words, during

00:47:15.420 that same

00:47:15.840 time that

00:47:16.460 nobody died

00:47:17.120 of COVID,

00:47:19.760 nobody died

00:47:20.680 of car

00:47:21.060 accidents, or

00:47:22.680 heart attacks,

00:47:24.120 or murder,

00:47:26.880 or anything.

00:47:29.980 Because there

00:47:32.140 was a data

00:47:32.580 problem with

00:47:33.840 deaths.

00:47:36.320 And so the

00:47:36.940 number one

00:47:37.600 best example

00:47:38.540 of ivermectin

00:47:39.440 working is

00:47:41.020 very clearly

00:47:41.720 not an

00:47:42.140 example of

00:47:42.900 it working.

00:47:44.120 Because it

00:47:45.520 didn't cure

00:47:46.060 auto accidents,

00:47:48.340 did it?

00:47:49.480 And so the

00:47:50.740 people who

00:47:51.160 look at the

00:47:51.580 data say, but

00:47:52.580 all the other

00:47:53.060 deaths are gone

00:47:53.700 too, so

00:47:54.380 obviously it's

00:47:55.040 just a data

00:47:55.540 problem.

00:47:56.600 So that's the

00:47:57.240 strongest real

00:47:58.000 world example.

00:47:58.760 But you say,

00:47:59.140 wait, wait,

00:47:59.520 there are other

00:47:59.880 places.

00:48:00.780 You know, you

00:48:01.300 got Israel.

00:48:02.980 But actually,

00:48:03.840 that's not

00:48:04.500 the case.

00:48:05.320 So there are

00:48:05.620 a bunch of

00:48:05.940 other examples

00:48:06.520 that are

00:48:06.840 debunked the

00:48:07.360 same way.

00:48:08.520 That somebody

00:48:09.400 claimed they

00:48:10.000 used it, but

00:48:10.760 if you look

00:48:11.200 into it, no,

00:48:12.240 no, that

00:48:12.560 didn't happen.

00:48:13.340 What about

00:48:13.740 Japan?

00:48:15.020 Somebody sent

00:48:15.860 me a tweet

00:48:16.780 just yesterday,

00:48:17.900 said that a

00:48:18.400 very highly

00:48:19.060 respected

00:48:21.440 cardiologist said

00:48:23.280 that there had

00:48:23.660 been a

00:48:23.940 recommendation by

00:48:24.860 some medical

00:48:26.020 group, and

00:48:27.240 that medical

00:48:27.660 group said,

00:48:28.400 use ivermectin,

00:48:29.720 and Japan was

00:48:30.500 using it with

00:48:31.380 great success.

00:48:33.040 This was from

00:48:33.720 an actual

00:48:34.420 respected

00:48:36.500 cardiologist in

00:48:37.720 Japan who

00:48:38.400 was telling

00:48:38.720 you his

00:48:39.640 own experience.

00:48:41.320 Yes, we

00:48:41.880 use it.

00:48:43.040 Yes, we

00:48:43.540 beat the, you

00:48:44.500 know, we've got

00:48:45.720 the COVID

00:48:46.380 deaths way

00:48:47.040 down, totally

00:48:48.180 working.

00:48:49.700 Convincing,

00:48:50.300 right?

00:48:51.340 Pretty convincing?

00:48:53.040 Well, if that's

00:48:53.580 all you heard,

00:48:54.900 yeah, that would

00:48:55.420 be pretty darn

00:48:56.200 convincing.

00:48:57.620 Here's the part

00:48:58.420 you didn't hear,

00:48:59.400 but it's the

00:49:00.700 debunk to it.

00:49:02.760 The death rate

00:49:03.780 in Japan, it's

00:49:04.680 just average.

00:49:06.660 It's just

00:49:07.340 average.

00:49:08.100 It's average for

00:49:09.060 the region,

00:49:10.080 because all the

00:49:11.120 Asian countries

00:49:11.900 are beating all

00:49:12.880 of the Western

00:49:13.460 countries.

00:49:14.880 There may be

00:49:15.540 some exceptions,

00:49:16.580 but basically,

00:49:17.400 they're just

00:49:17.720 average.

00:49:18.700 So if Japan is

00:49:19.720 using it so

00:49:20.420 successfully, why

00:49:22.740 don't their

00:49:23.120 numbers reflect

00:49:23.820 it?

00:49:24.640 They're doing

00:49:25.160 just the same

00:49:25.920 as everybody

00:49:26.300 else, and

00:49:27.020 the other

00:49:27.300 countries are

00:49:28.020 not reportedly

00:49:28.700 using it.

00:49:30.020 So does that

00:49:30.600 tell you that

00:49:31.080 the Japan

00:49:31.500 thing was BS?

00:49:34.220 I don't know,

00:49:35.340 because there

00:49:35.620 might be a

00:49:36.020 debunk to

00:49:36.520 the debunk.

00:49:38.000 Just haven't

00:49:38.480 heard it yet.

00:49:40.200 Then the

00:49:40.600 BBC did its

00:49:41.960 debunk and

00:49:42.560 said that of

00:49:43.780 the big

00:49:44.740 trials of

00:49:47.420 ivermectin,

00:49:49.620 that a third

00:49:50.980 of them, they

00:49:51.520 could identify

00:49:52.260 obvious, huge

00:49:53.400 problems.

00:49:53.900 One-third of

00:49:56.220 the ones they

00:49:56.680 checked out of

00:49:57.280 26, and I

00:49:58.940 guess they're

00:49:59.360 more than

00:50:00.060 that, but

00:50:00.460 they checked

00:50:01.320 26 and

00:50:02.060 found a third

00:50:02.600 of them had

00:50:03.080 really big

00:50:03.900 problems.

00:50:04.680 And the

00:50:04.880 kind of

00:50:05.160 problems are

00:50:05.700 data was

00:50:07.180 cut and

00:50:07.540 pasted.

00:50:08.740 You can see

00:50:09.540 that it's not

00:50:10.040 even real

00:50:10.420 data.

00:50:11.260 I mean,

00:50:11.560 obviously, not

00:50:12.360 real data.

00:50:13.840 So that's how

00:50:14.680 bad some of

00:50:15.340 them were.

00:50:16.280 But you say

00:50:16.720 to yourself,

00:50:17.220 but Scott,

00:50:17.820 there were

00:50:18.160 also randomized

00:50:19.000 controlled trials.

00:50:20.560 Well, apparently

00:50:21.060 there was one

00:50:22.060 high-quality

00:50:22.980 randomized

00:50:23.660 controlled trial.

00:50:25.880 There were

00:50:26.240 other trials

00:50:27.300 that had

00:50:27.880 quality problems,

00:50:29.880 but there was

00:50:30.600 one really

00:50:31.020 good one that

00:50:32.560 said it didn't

00:50:33.080 work.

00:50:35.240 Now, are

00:50:37.620 you convinced?

00:50:39.040 Do you think

00:50:39.500 a randomized

00:50:39.940 controlled trial

00:50:41.080 is convincing?

00:50:42.460 It's the highest

00:50:43.120 standard in science,

00:50:45.020 and according to

00:50:46.060 the BBC,

00:50:47.380 there was only

00:50:47.980 one of them,

00:50:49.320 and it said

00:50:49.720 it didn't work.

00:50:50.900 And the ones

00:50:51.400 that said it

00:50:51.820 did work have

00:50:53.220 such, at least

00:50:54.540 a random, you

00:50:55.480 know, a third

00:50:55.860 of them or so,

00:50:56.940 were so obviously

00:50:59.360 flawed, you

00:51:00.120 couldn't possibly

00:51:00.800 do a meta-analysis

00:51:01.980 because it would

00:51:02.880 just be taking

00:51:04.040 an average of

00:51:04.840 garbage.

00:51:07.360 Right?

00:51:07.960 Now, was

00:51:09.360 there a

00:51:09.660 debunk to

00:51:11.080 the debunk?

00:51:12.600 Of course.

00:51:14.220 So somebody

00:51:14.940 sent me a

00:51:15.720 video of,

00:51:18.080 let's see,

00:51:18.760 who is this

00:51:19.200 expert?

00:51:23.460 Probably wrote

00:51:24.240 his name down

00:51:24.900 here somewhere.

00:51:27.160 Dr. John

00:51:27.980 Campbell, he

00:51:28.640 does some

00:51:28.960 videos.

00:51:29.960 I think he's

00:51:30.800 pro-ivermectin.

00:51:32.160 And so he

00:51:32.600 looks at the

00:51:33.440 BBC article,

00:51:34.920 which totally

00:51:35.760 debunked

00:51:36.400 ivermectin,

00:51:37.760 and then he

00:51:38.580 totally debunked

00:51:40.440 the BBC

00:51:41.120 article.

00:51:42.200 Now, he

00:51:42.640 didn't prove

00:51:43.100 it was false.

00:51:43.960 he questioned

00:51:45.440 the capability

00:51:47.440 of the people

00:51:48.360 and the

00:51:49.460 sources,

00:51:50.480 because the

00:51:50.960 sources weren't

00:51:51.620 mentioned in a

00:51:52.500 number of cases,

00:51:53.740 and the people

00:51:54.640 involved were

00:51:55.320 not high

00:51:56.940 authorities.

00:51:57.400 So he

00:51:59.520 basically said,

00:52:00.420 this is a

00:52:00.800 journalism,

00:52:02.040 it's not

00:52:02.540 science.

00:52:03.860 Was he

00:52:04.560 convincing?

00:52:05.700 He was.

00:52:07.280 Yeah.

00:52:08.300 Because the

00:52:08.720 person who

00:52:09.120 goes last is

00:52:10.540 always convincing.

00:52:11.240 And if

00:52:12.680 somebody were

00:52:13.280 to debunk

00:52:13.880 him, as

00:52:15.140 I will

00:52:15.460 right now,

00:52:16.760 it might

00:52:17.500 actually sound

00:52:18.160 credible, too.

00:52:19.660 Here's my

00:52:20.200 debunk of

00:52:21.280 him.

00:52:22.960 He questioned

00:52:24.040 the sources

00:52:24.640 and said that

00:52:26.040 because he

00:52:26.560 couldn't find

00:52:27.160 what they

00:52:27.600 found, he

00:52:29.920 questioned it.

00:52:31.960 Whenever you

00:52:32.900 trigger somebody

00:52:33.760 into cognitive

00:52:34.480 dissonance,

00:52:36.100 they're going

00:52:36.500 to come after

00:52:36.960 your data,

00:52:38.420 but they're

00:52:39.640 going to ignore

00:52:40.140 the good

00:52:40.580 arguments and

00:52:41.200 go after you

00:52:41.740 personally,

00:52:42.340 aren't they?

00:52:43.860 He kind of

00:52:44.740 went after

00:52:45.140 them personally,

00:52:46.520 but he also

00:52:47.340 had a good

00:52:47.740 point, that

00:52:48.860 their data

00:52:49.360 was unfindable.

00:52:51.000 Except there

00:52:51.560 was one glaring

00:52:52.560 exception to

00:52:53.340 that, and I

00:52:53.920 didn't see his

00:52:54.420 whole video yet,

00:52:55.260 but I think he

00:52:55.940 didn't get to

00:52:56.380 it.

00:52:57.360 The article did

00:52:58.480 claim that there

00:52:59.100 was only one

00:52:59.700 good study, a

00:53:00.620 randomized controlled

00:53:01.520 trial, and

00:53:02.560 that it said

00:53:02.980 ivermectin didn't

00:53:03.860 work.

00:53:05.540 I don't know

00:53:06.440 that he addressed

00:53:07.160 that, and

00:53:09.100 correct me if I'm

00:53:09.900 wrong, but the

00:53:10.900 debunk to him

00:53:11.580 would be, I

00:53:12.580 think you

00:53:12.900 ignored their

00:53:13.460 strongest point

00:53:14.400 and went after

00:53:15.700 their credibility,

00:53:16.800 because it would

00:53:17.580 be easy, I

00:53:18.400 think, to

00:53:19.880 determine that

00:53:20.580 there was, in

00:53:21.220 fact, one good

00:53:22.620 randomized controlled

00:53:23.620 trial.

00:53:24.420 I think he could

00:53:25.160 find that.

00:53:26.700 Now, if that

00:53:27.180 didn't exist, then

00:53:28.080 the whole BBC

00:53:28.720 article is garbage,

00:53:29.780 of course.

00:53:31.120 But, right,

00:53:33.240 don't trust

00:53:33.780 Campbell, don't

00:53:34.640 trust the BBC,

00:53:36.000 don't trust

00:53:36.640 anybody.

00:53:37.460 So, keep in

00:53:38.560 mind that the

00:53:40.240 major theme

00:53:41.180 here is that the

00:53:42.200 last person sounds

00:53:43.220 right, and there's

00:53:44.340 always a last

00:53:44.980 person.

00:53:45.860 You're never done.

00:53:47.420 There's always going

00:53:48.040 to be somebody

00:53:48.520 responding to the

00:53:49.360 response.

00:53:50.380 So, if you think

00:53:51.280 you can chase the

00:53:52.100 turtles all the way

00:53:52.940 down, good luck.

00:53:55.760 I can't.

00:53:57.000 But I would tell

00:53:57.740 you that you might

00:53:58.600 be nearing the end

00:53:59.780 when you find

00:54:00.920 somebody ignoring

00:54:02.040 the best argument

00:54:03.800 and going after

00:54:05.520 the credibility

00:54:06.400 of the debunkers.

00:54:09.600 That would be a

00:54:10.600 sign you may have

00:54:11.440 reached the final

00:54:12.220 turtle, but I

00:54:13.520 don't know that

00:54:13.940 you could know

00:54:14.380 for sure.

00:54:15.500 Just sort of

00:54:16.200 keep that in

00:54:16.660 mind.

00:54:19.080 All right.

00:54:21.240 So, like I

00:54:22.360 said, bottom

00:54:23.000 line, I don't

00:54:23.720 think it even

00:54:24.200 matters if

00:54:24.800 ivermectin

00:54:25.400 works at this

00:54:26.020 point.

00:54:26.480 We're so done

00:54:27.240 with everything.

00:54:29.800 We've got two

00:54:30.340 weeks to get

00:54:31.660 February 1.

00:54:32.520 We're done

00:54:32.980 working for

00:54:33.700 those of us

00:54:34.340 in the

00:54:35.500 horrible states

00:54:36.360 like California

00:54:37.900 where we still

00:54:38.600 have masks and

00:54:39.560 mandates and

00:54:40.180 stuff.

00:54:41.800 And, you

00:54:45.060 don't like my

00:54:45.560 turtle analogies?

00:54:47.220 I think it's

00:54:47.760 turtle analogy

00:54:49.260 was excellent.

00:54:54.820 And then, of

00:54:55.660 course, there

00:54:56.060 will be lots

00:54:56.520 of people who

00:54:57.260 are dunking

00:54:58.780 on me for

00:55:00.240 being pro-booster

00:55:01.400 zero and

00:55:01.880 when, of

00:55:02.220 course, I'm

00:55:02.620 not.

00:55:03.940 So, watch

00:55:04.800 for how many

00:55:05.340 people are

00:55:05.880 criticizing me

00:55:07.280 for the

00:55:09.600 opposite of

00:55:10.260 my personal

00:55:12.060 opinion.

00:55:13.020 Or, see

00:55:13.740 how many

00:55:13.980 people are

00:55:14.860 accusing the

00:55:16.200 creator of

00:55:16.820 Dilbert of

00:55:17.980 being too

00:55:18.540 gullible and

00:55:19.820 trusting of

00:55:20.500 big corporations.

00:55:21.240 To me, that's

00:55:22.880 the funniest

00:55:23.340 thing that came

00:55:23.940 out of the

00:55:24.400 pandemic, is

00:55:26.540 that people

00:55:27.320 assumed that I

00:55:28.180 trusted big

00:55:28.880 corporations.

00:55:30.700 That might be

00:55:31.840 the silliest

00:55:32.480 thing that's

00:55:33.180 happened out

00:55:33.680 of all this.

00:55:35.240 The only

00:55:35.880 thing that I

00:55:36.560 trust is that

00:55:37.880 they weren't

00:55:38.320 wrong every

00:55:38.980 time.

00:55:40.400 That's it.

00:55:42.220 You know, no

00:55:43.020 matter how bad

00:55:43.840 a big company

00:55:44.480 is, sometimes

00:55:46.000 they make a

00:55:46.660 product that

00:55:47.180 works.

00:55:48.280 It's not like

00:55:48.940 every product

00:55:49.600 every company

00:55:50.260 made doesn't

00:55:51.480 work.

00:55:52.920 You know, so

00:55:53.340 just because

00:55:53.900 they're not

00:55:54.360 trustworthy doesn't

00:55:55.320 mean that they

00:55:56.600 made a bad

00:55:57.120 product.

00:55:57.880 It just

00:55:58.240 means it's

00:55:58.700 very likely.

00:55:59.880 It doesn't

00:56:00.180 mean it

00:56:00.400 happened.

00:56:05.240 All right.

00:56:10.180 Andrew says,

00:56:11.280 did you roll

00:56:12.120 up your sleeve

00:56:12.700 for big

00:56:13.120 pharma,

00:56:13.680 Scott?

00:56:14.620 Well, what

00:56:15.240 did you do,

00:56:16.920 Andrew?

00:56:19.120 What I did

00:56:19.960 was wait as

00:56:20.640 long as

00:56:21.080 possible,

00:56:21.800 because I

00:56:22.180 didn't trust

00:56:22.700 their vaccine,

00:56:24.240 and ultimately

00:56:24.920 I just did it

00:56:25.720 so I could

00:56:26.040 fly.

00:56:27.120 But you

00:56:27.780 trusted the

00:56:28.720 Chinese

00:56:30.120 engineered

00:56:30.700 bioweapon?

00:56:32.760 So you

00:56:33.560 would trust

00:56:34.060 the virus,

00:56:35.720 which maybe,

00:56:37.200 don't know

00:56:37.780 for sure,

00:56:39.000 but it looks

00:56:39.500 like it could

00:56:40.040 have been

00:56:40.300 designed to

00:56:41.020 hurt you.

00:56:42.140 You would

00:56:42.820 trust the

00:56:43.340 thing that's

00:56:43.780 designed to

00:56:44.300 hurt you

00:56:44.820 over the

00:56:46.080 thing that

00:56:46.420 was designed

00:56:47.400 to protect

00:56:48.900 you,

00:56:49.820 knowing that

00:56:50.440 we don't

00:56:50.780 know for

00:56:51.180 sure whether

00:56:52.540 it was

00:56:52.840 engineered or

00:56:54.600 whether the

00:56:55.040 vaccine is

00:56:55.700 more good

00:56:56.240 than bad

00:56:56.780 in the

00:56:57.320 long run.

00:56:57.840 We don't

00:56:58.100 know that.

00:56:58.780 In the

00:56:59.000 short run,

00:56:59.380 it looks

00:56:59.620 like it's

00:57:00.640 more good

00:57:01.020 than bad

00:57:01.480 for certain

00:57:02.740 people.

00:57:03.040 And by

00:57:12.060 the way,

00:57:12.400 on YouTube,

00:57:13.320 if you

00:57:13.720 didn't catch

00:57:14.240 my professorial

00:57:16.540 move last

00:57:17.480 night when

00:57:18.920 I taught you

00:57:20.160 about the

00:57:20.760 upgrade to

00:57:21.580 science,

00:57:22.840 a new form

00:57:23.400 of science,

00:57:23.880 sort of like the

00:57:24.380 New Testament

00:57:24.860 of science,

00:57:25.920 but look for

00:57:26.780 that.

00:57:27.040 It's the video

00:57:27.560 I did right

00:57:28.240 before this

00:57:28.720 one,

00:57:29.100 but last

00:57:29.500 night.

00:57:32.100 Oh,

00:57:32.500 the fake

00:57:32.900 hostage

00:57:33.380 situation.

00:57:34.160 I don't

00:57:34.420 think it's

00:57:35.120 fake,

00:57:36.200 but it's

00:57:37.320 also not

00:57:37.800 important.

00:57:40.740 All right.

00:57:44.700 That is

00:57:45.560 all I have

00:57:45.960 to say

00:57:46.240 today.

00:57:47.560 And go

00:57:48.200 Niners and

00:57:48.760 all that.

00:57:49.860 And you

00:57:53.600 suppose that

00:57:54.160 there's only

00:57:54.540 one bio

00:57:55.100 weapon on the

00:57:55.680 shelf?

00:57:55.920 No.

00:58:02.600 Why did

00:58:03.280 doctors

00:58:03.920 write

00:58:04.680 land

00:58:04.960 bandit?

00:58:05.560 I'm going

00:58:06.000 to ignore

00:58:06.340 your all

00:58:06.780 caps.

00:58:08.740 Never

00:58:09.240 aspire to

00:58:09.940 be a

00:58:10.180 lab rat.

00:58:11.200 Well,

00:58:11.700 here's the

00:58:12.800 thing.

00:58:14.280 If the

00:58:14.980 only choice

00:58:15.780 was to get

00:58:16.660 vaccinated or

00:58:17.540 not, I

00:58:18.900 would have

00:58:19.220 chose not.

00:58:20.720 Everybody

00:58:21.060 get that?

00:58:22.560 Would you

00:58:23.020 all agree

00:58:23.400 with me?

00:58:24.100 If the

00:58:24.640 only variable

00:58:25.320 was the

00:58:25.900 vaccine or

00:58:26.720 no vaccine,

00:58:28.220 I would

00:58:28.620 take no

00:58:29.020 vaccine.

00:58:31.160 Fair.

00:58:32.480 But if

00:58:33.140 you add

00:58:33.540 the variable

00:58:34.020 that you

00:58:34.720 have a

00:58:35.180 choice of

00:58:35.780 two unknowns,

00:58:39.500 one might

00:58:40.020 be a

00:58:40.340 Chinese

00:58:40.640 bioweapon

00:58:41.320 with long

00:58:42.640 term

00:58:42.860 consequences

00:58:43.500 we can't

00:58:44.080 anticipate.

00:58:44.500 And the

00:58:46.220 other one

00:58:46.640 might be a

00:58:47.260 vaccine with

00:58:48.020 long term

00:58:48.600 consequences we

00:58:49.520 can't

00:58:49.760 anticipate.

00:58:50.100 you didn't

00:58:51.280 get a

00:58:51.600 choice of

00:58:52.980 avoiding the

00:58:53.940 experimental

00:58:54.420 drug.

00:58:56.080 Did you?

00:58:57.540 No, you

00:58:58.220 didn't.

00:58:59.120 You got a

00:59:00.100 choice of

00:59:00.620 which experimental

00:59:01.620 drug or in

00:59:03.200 which order

00:59:03.840 you got them.

00:59:05.000 I chose to

00:59:06.120 get the

00:59:06.460 protection before

00:59:07.560 the Chinese

00:59:09.100 engineered

00:59:09.840 bioweapon.

00:59:10.780 If you

00:59:12.600 chose to

00:59:13.060 get the

00:59:13.380 bioweapon

00:59:14.020 first and

00:59:15.300 then the

00:59:15.680 protection,

00:59:17.100 apparently that

00:59:17.800 does have some

00:59:18.440 benefits.

00:59:19.600 But I don't

00:59:20.280 think it's as

00:59:20.780 good.

00:59:22.000 Just my

00:59:22.560 guess.

00:59:23.600 Now, I don't

00:59:24.220 know that for

00:59:24.720 sure, but

00:59:25.260 neither do you.

00:59:26.300 So we're all

00:59:26.740 guessing.

00:59:28.400 All right.

00:59:29.240 There's a

00:59:29.820 double chance of

00:59:30.500 the unknowns.

00:59:31.960 That's true.

00:59:33.960 Yep, two

00:59:34.440 unknowns.

00:59:34.780 I do like the

00:59:35.920 fact that if I

00:59:37.260 can do anything

00:59:37.900 to reduce the

00:59:39.000 amount of

00:59:39.600 impact the

00:59:41.000 alleged Chinese

00:59:42.640 engineered

00:59:43.240 bioweapon has

00:59:44.500 on me, then I

00:59:46.080 would do that.

00:59:46.680 That feels like

00:59:47.280 the better, it

00:59:48.660 feels like the

00:59:49.220 better play with

00:59:51.260 a context of

00:59:52.820 so many

00:59:53.300 unknowns.

00:59:56.180 All right.

00:59:57.760 Did you get

00:59:58.380 the jab before

00:59:59.120 the breakthrough

00:59:59.660 cases were

01:00:00.360 happening?

01:00:00.820 Yes.

01:00:02.040 Yeah, long

01:00:02.560 before we knew

01:00:03.300 that there were

01:00:03.720 breakthrough cases.

01:00:04.780 Which wouldn't

01:00:05.280 have changed my

01:00:05.900 mind, I don't

01:00:06.500 think.

01:00:07.740 Because I got

01:00:10.660 it so I didn't

01:00:11.300 die.

01:00:12.940 At least that was

01:00:13.860 the gamble we're

01:00:14.640 making.

01:00:15.280 I didn't get it so

01:00:16.180 I wouldn't transmit

01:00:17.080 it.

01:00:18.060 I got it to

01:00:19.200 stay alive.

01:00:20.820 So it still

01:00:21.840 seems to work for

01:00:22.580 that.

01:00:23.260 Allegedly.

01:00:24.500 Allegedly.

01:00:24.980 Allegedly.

01:00:25.040 the erasure of

01:00:35.920 choice.

01:00:38.800 The erasure of

01:00:39.840 choice.

01:00:40.620 Yeah, we're all

01:00:41.220 bothered by that.

01:00:41.820 All right.

01:00:50.560 That's all I got

01:00:51.360 to say for

01:00:52.040 today.

01:00:55.120 Do you feel

01:00:56.140 remorse for

01:00:57.400 helping Big

01:00:58.040 Pharma?

01:01:00.500 Why would I

01:01:01.260 feel remorse?

01:01:04.260 Now, how many

01:01:05.400 of you think I

01:01:06.080 helped them by

01:01:07.660 telling you that I

01:01:08.540 wasn't going to get

01:01:09.180 vaccinated for six

01:01:10.160 months because I

01:01:11.540 didn't trust the

01:01:12.160 vaccinations?

01:01:13.660 How many of you

01:01:14.440 people know that?

01:01:16.200 How many people

01:01:17.040 know that I

01:01:18.260 waited for, I

01:01:19.240 think, six months

01:01:20.260 specifically because

01:01:22.200 I didn't trust them?

01:01:23.300 Which I said over

01:01:24.260 and over and over

01:01:24.860 again, I don't

01:01:25.920 trust them, I

01:01:26.520 don't trust them,

01:01:27.080 I don't trust

01:01:27.580 them.

01:01:28.220 And then when I

01:01:28.900 did, I told you I

01:01:30.480 didn't know it was

01:01:31.040 the right answer.

01:01:33.160 And basically, if I

01:01:35.160 didn't have to fly, I

01:01:36.180 might have made a

01:01:36.660 different decision.

01:01:37.480 So, how does that

01:01:40.220 sound to you like

01:01:41.180 I helped them?

01:01:44.680 I'm not sure that

01:01:45.660 they would have

01:01:46.080 paid me to wait

01:01:47.120 six months saying

01:01:48.580 that I didn't.

01:01:53.660 Jack Harer on

01:01:54.700 train wreck.

01:01:57.200 I said I felt free

01:01:58.540 once I got

01:01:59.080 vaccinated.

01:01:59.660 Right, that was

01:02:00.200 my subjective opinion

01:02:01.980 which still holds.

01:02:04.400 Now, why would you

01:02:05.200 have a problem with

01:02:06.060 me telling you what

01:02:06.800 I feel subjectively?

01:02:08.720 Why is that

01:02:09.400 threatening to you?

01:02:12.100 I got the feeling

01:02:13.220 when I got it

01:02:13.980 because I was free

01:02:15.240 of worrying about

01:02:16.580 really anything but

01:02:18.620 an inconvenience

01:02:19.520 after that.

01:02:22.540 VAX isn't

01:02:23.220 mandated to fly.

01:02:24.160 It was mandated

01:02:25.180 to fly to Greece

01:02:26.180 and to the country.

01:02:27.620 I think it was

01:02:31.460 mandated to get

01:02:33.040 through Germany

01:02:33.860 to get to Greece

01:02:35.720 or something like

01:02:36.380 that, but it was

01:02:36.840 mandated somewhere

01:02:37.660 along the way.

01:02:41.000 You did not have

01:02:41.980 to fly.

01:02:42.660 That's correct.

01:02:43.500 I could have gotten

01:02:44.560 a divorce right

01:02:45.300 away.

01:02:46.160 You're right.

01:02:47.080 I did have the

01:02:48.040 option of not

01:02:48.660 flying.

01:02:50.000 I could have

01:02:50.820 gotten a divorce.

01:02:51.680 You are correct.

01:02:52.400 So, thanks for

01:02:55.380 pointing that out.

01:02:56.660 All right.

01:02:57.080 That's all.

01:02:58.080 You got the job

01:02:58.820 and defended it.

01:03:03.720 You got the job

01:03:04.900 and defended it.

01:03:06.680 What do words

01:03:07.480 mean to you?

01:03:08.140 If I say

01:03:11.300 there are costs

01:03:12.920 and there are

01:03:13.260 benefits and in

01:03:14.020 the end I just

01:03:14.680 guessed, that

01:03:16.620 sounds like I

01:03:17.320 defended it.

01:03:19.140 That's a weird

01:03:19.840 use of words.

01:03:20.760 Okay.

01:03:22.500 Okay.

01:03:23.520 If you keep

01:03:24.260 that up, you're

01:03:24.800 going to be

01:03:25.080 promoted to

01:03:25.740 mascot.

01:03:26.880 But that's all

01:03:27.820 for now.

01:03:28.320 I'll talk to you

01:03:28.840 tomorrow.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - January 17, 2022

Episode 1626 Scott Adams： Let's Talk About How to Debunk the Debunkers and Fact Check the Fact Checkers

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