Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1653 Scott Adams： Breaking Bombshell Report From Durham About Hillary Clinton, Russia, More

00:00:00.000 Good morning everybody. So is there anything in the news today that got you excited about

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00:01:06.780 Yes, I understand from people who know things that today is a thing called the Super Bowl. Super

00:01:22.420 Bowl. Have you all heard of that? Some kind of a football event that happens once a year. It's the

00:01:28.520 sort of thing I used to care about. But for some reason, watching television just doesn't seem to

00:01:33.680 make any sense anymore. Has anybody had that same experience that over the course of the

00:01:39.780 pandemic, you lost your, let's say, television habit? How many of you had a habit of just,

00:01:46.780 oh, I'll turn on TV, see what's on? That's completely gone. Because for a long time, it was nothing but

00:01:52.040 repeats. So you had to stream and then you got used to streaming services. And yeah, lost it years ago.

00:01:59.320 Well, here's my prediction about the Super Bowl. I, of course, have been making Super Bowl predictions

00:02:06.160 for many years. Probably for 20 years in a row, the press would ask me once a year for my Super Bowl

00:02:13.820 prediction. They would often put together semi-famous people's Super Bowl predictions to make a story out

00:02:21.360 of it. And I started making my predictions based on whose mascot could beat the other mascot.

00:02:26.880 So far, not a bad way to predict. So it seems that we have the Bengals, which would be Tigers, 0.86

00:02:35.880 playing against the Rams, which would be the food that Tigers eat. Am I wrong about that?

00:02:45.560 Am I wrong that one of the mascots is literally the food of the other mascot? I'm not wrong about

00:02:51.580 that, right? A Ram is literally food for the other team. So I'm no betting expert. But I'm

00:03:03.300 going to go with the technique that's gotten me where I am. I'm going to predict that the Tigers

00:03:09.980 will eat the Rams. How about that? I'm not wrong. Well, I don't know. I suppose they both

00:03:18.240 have quarterbacks and stuff like that. I should know all those things before I make a prediction.

00:03:22.640 But I don't. Well, the Trucker Rebellion showing no signs of cracking. And indeed,

00:03:28.540 Canada's veterans are starting to stream in to join the truckers. So now you have veterans 0.80

00:03:37.020 and you've got your truckers. It's a very testosterone-y kind of a divide, isn't it?

00:03:48.920 Have I ever told you my theory that we get everything wrong about what team people are on,

00:03:55.960 and that maybe there's just a testosterone thing, and people who have high testosterone end up on the

00:04:01.040 same team, and people who don't end up hating that team? Well, there's something about this Canadian 0.91

00:04:08.120 protest that is strikingly, strikingly testosterone-y. It's very male. You know, obviously,

00:04:18.760 there are tons of women supporting the thing. And there are lots of women truck drivers, of course, 1.00

00:04:23.540 and female veterans, of course, of course, of course. But if you look at the images, it looks like

00:04:28.240 a fairly male-centric situation. I don't know if that's important. Is that important in any way?

00:04:34.940 Because it makes you wonder, who's more effective protesting? What would be a more effective

00:04:41.620 protest? An equal number of, let's say, moms or the truckers and the veterans who tend to be mostly

00:04:50.160 male? Who would get the job done? I don't know. Yeah, kids are hard to beat. 1.00

00:04:58.240 But if it were moms versus truckers? I'm not sure. I think I'd bet on the moms. 0.98

00:05:06.440 So Biden and Putin talked. And this leads us to the question, what the hell is going on over there?

00:05:13.600 Do you get the sense that we don't have any idea what's happening with Ukraine? Meaning that the

00:05:20.440 real story is probably three layers below the actual story? Right? Let me give you a hypothesis.

00:05:28.240 This entire thing is really about Hillary versus Putin. All of it. Like everything. Everything that

00:05:38.460 involves Russia poking us or us poking Russia is all about. I believe there's a hypothesis that when

00:05:47.660 Hillary was in the State Department, she was trying to organize a coup against Putin. Can anybody give me a

00:05:53.620 fact check on that? Did that really happen? Did or is it alleged or is it a known thing? Did she? I'm

00:06:02.900 seeing people say yes, but I don't know what's a conspiracy theory and what's real anymore.

00:06:06.500 And don't you think that Putin would have to respond to that? And maybe if he did any election

00:06:15.460 shenanigans as alleged, maybe that could have been it. But it's looking a lot like some kind of a

00:06:22.180 personal thing between Hillary and Putin. And by personal, I mean only one of them will be there in

00:06:28.800 the end. I mean, I think he's trying to take her out as quickly as she's trying to take him out directly

00:06:36.180 or indirectly. Now, here's the other filter on this. So one filter is it's a personal vendetta

00:06:41.640 between two people. And they have enough weight that they can make two countries fight.

00:06:46.960 Do you remember when George Bush Jr. was thinking about going to war in Iraq? And people said,

00:06:57.520 wait a minute, that looks kind of personal. Because Saddam Hussein allegedly tried to assassinate his

00:07:04.500 father. Do you think that anybody would get tough with somebody who allegedly tried to kill their

00:07:10.620 father? Probably. It probably makes a difference. I mean, we're all humans, right? You're supposed to

00:07:16.940 not put that in your judgment if you're president. But seriously, somebody tries to kill a family

00:07:22.840 member. They have a specific specific kind of method to do it. I think you would go pretty hard on

00:07:30.860 them. And so I don't think you can rule out personal vendettas from any of this. Now, here's the other

00:07:38.180 filter. Who makes money if Putin attacks Ukraine? Who makes money? Well, I would say arms dealers,

00:07:49.120 right? Because that would cause a new flurry of purchases by NATO and anybody who cared. So is it a

00:07:58.800 coincidence that as Afghanistan winds down, Ukraine winds up? So one filter on this is that all of the 0.98

00:08:07.300 news is fake and all of our international dealings are fake and they're all orchestrated by arms 0.55

00:08:14.200 dealers who have enough clout to control the news and have enough clout to cause a war because it's

00:08:22.860 good for business. Now, who else could financially benefit? Because remember, following the money is a

00:08:30.260 pretty good way to figure stuff out. Who else could financially benefit? Well, I feel as if this would

00:08:39.460 be good for American energy companies. Am I right? Wouldn't American energy companies do better

00:08:46.740 if Russia is degraded as an energy competitor? Now, of course, we have a distance problem. I don't know

00:08:55.040 exactly how that plays into the economics, except that it's more expensive, obviously.

00:09:01.540 So it seems to me that the United States, and I need a fact check on this. If the United States

00:09:08.320 doesn't get involved militarily, which is likely, and if Russia spends a ton of their money trying to

00:09:16.440 invade and occupy, it's really expensive, and that causes the United States and Biden to be able to say,

00:09:23.820 okay, your pipeline deal, the Nord Stream 2 is dead, and by the way, we'll be picking up the slack

00:09:31.320 by selling our own natural gas and whatnot to Germany. I guess we'd need tankers to do that.

00:09:39.640 Now, Russia would presumably, if they get sort of shut out by the West, because if Putin invades,

00:09:48.720 he becomes Hitler, right? Am I right? From the perspective of the Europeans, and the Germans 0.95

00:09:54.260 in particular, if Putin invades a country with an army, he becomes Hitler. You don't shake that off.

00:10:03.560 And I don't believe that Germany could ever do business with him at that point, and it wouldn't

00:10:08.120 matter what the economics were. Am I wrong? I think that once Putin becomes Hitler, like actually,

00:10:16.280 literally acts like him in the, not just the analogy way, but actually doing Hitler stuff, invading the country. 0.51

00:10:22.800 Yeah, I think it's tougher for him to sell stuff. So, what would happen if Putin then said, as I've seen some

00:10:34.460 analysts say, well, he'll just take his business to China, because China has an insatiable demand for oil.

00:10:42.140 Do you think that Putin wants to have one major customer, and it'd be China?

00:10:47.800 What would be the worst possible thing for a producer of energy?

00:10:54.160 The worst possible thing is to have one big customer who's even bigger than you are.

00:11:01.680 It's a problem. You don't want one country to be able to turn off your economy if they want.

00:11:07.020 Now, it would hurt their own economy, of course.

00:11:08.780 But, yeah, you know, I don't think, it seems to me that Putin would not want too much Chinese control 1.00

00:11:18.800 over Russia, you know, directly or indirectly. So, that's the problem. So, it seems to me that at

00:11:24.900 least one possibility here is that Biden is literally tricking Putin into attacking, meaning he's talking

00:11:33.360 tough, but the talking tough is only because he wants the consequences. In other words, Biden might

00:11:40.580 have calculated, or the administration might have calculated, that a getting rid of this corrupt

00:11:46.520 regime could solve a lot of problems. You know, right now we have a Ukraine problem and a Russia 0.65

00:11:55.140 problem, wouldn't you say? And they're two separate problems. One is, why do we keep getting,

00:12:01.980 why do we keep having Ukrainian issues with American politics? So, as long as Ukraine exists 0.99

00:12:09.400 as an independent, corrupt country, it's going to look like everybody's money laundering

00:12:15.320 place they go to do bad stuff, right? So, from the Democrat perspective, it just looks like a giant

00:12:23.440 money laundering country. And if it gets sucked up by Russia, then don't we just have one problem? 0.55

00:12:33.800 So, now we have two problems. Ukraine keeps creating domestic problems in the United States.

00:12:39.060 And then Russia is always, you know, a big competitor. But if Russia eats Ukraine, 0.78

00:12:44.780 we're down to one problem. Just Russia, right? Because you just have one entity to deal with, 0.97

00:12:51.460 and the rest is just a puppet. Now, of course, I'm oversimplifying everything, right? I don't think

00:12:57.580 that this story is about one of these interpretations. Do you? I don't think one frame

00:13:05.120 or one interpretation gets anywhere near explaining what's going on. I think the best explanation is a

00:13:12.160 whole bunch of competing interests. They'll all have their own little story. And then the little

00:13:18.660 stories somehow sum up to something that nobody can quite understand, because there are too many

00:13:24.500 people with their individual stories. Of course, the arms dealers are involved. Of course, they are.

00:13:30.720 You know, of course, there are secrets in Ukraine that probably somebody is interested in hiding or

00:13:37.480 something. Of course, there are, you know, probably some personal feelings between the Clintons and

00:13:45.020 Putin. And Putin. Of course, there are historical Russian, let's say, part of the psychology that they

00:13:53.280 should have control over the neighboring countries. Of course. So all of those things are in there. But I

00:14:00.260 don't know. I don't know which are the big variables. Maybe some are bigger than others. Here's the mystery

00:14:07.020 that I think is the most interesting part of this. So the president of Ukraine, Mr. Zelensky,

00:14:16.420 has said that if Western powers had any firm evidence of an impending invasion, he had yet to see it.

00:14:24.920 How do you explain that? How do you explain that the person most at risk is saying, I don't know,

00:14:31.900 settle down. I haven't seen any evidence of an invasion. Here's what is missing, the dog-nark barking. 0.99

00:14:40.860 All right? This bark, you should be hearing all the time, but you're not. We've heard that 100,000

00:14:47.000 troops are amassed on the border. But don't you think we could tell the difference between an invasion

00:14:54.240 force and something that's not an invasion force? Let's say a bluff. Don't you think we could tell?

00:15:03.020 Because here's my assumption. A real invasion force would be prohibitively expensive unless you

00:15:10.360 were actually going to invade. So there's an assumption that might be wrong, but that's my

00:15:16.740 operating assumption. That an actual invasion force would be so expensive to have it just sitting

00:15:24.820 there idling next to the border that you just wouldn't do it if you could bluff instead. If your

00:15:32.440 intention was to bluff, you wouldn't put a real force there. You'd put something that's in the direction

00:15:38.700 of a real force. Something that would be scary enough, but not that expensive. And maybe something

00:15:46.380 that doesn't show all of your capabilities, too, because you don't want to give away any secrets.

00:15:51.840 So where is all the discussion about the nature and composition of their forces? And whether this is

00:15:58.880 a legitimate invasion force, or would they have to quickly supplement it? And how quickly could they do

00:16:05.560 that? Maybe it's only a difference of, you know, a week between what they have and what they need for

00:16:12.040 a full invasion. Might not take that long. But we should be talking about that, right? Should we not be

00:16:18.080 seeing a story every day in every platform that says, oh, it looks like they brought in the XYZ tanks or

00:16:26.400 whatever. That means it's on. We should be seeing that. We're not. Which suggests that maybe Ukraine hasn't

00:16:34.840 seen it either. And maybe Mr. Zelensky is telling the actual literal truth that he's seen no evidence

00:16:42.360 of an invasion, impending invasion. Do you think that all of our news entities would lie to us so badly

00:16:50.840 and tell us a story that, let's say, the Biden administration and other entities maybe wanted

00:16:59.180 us to believe that war is imminent? Could all of the platforms be essentially in on it?

00:17:07.900 Or fooled, I guess. They could be fooled or they could be in on it. Either one, we wouldn't know the

00:17:13.100 difference. But there is something really, really sketchy about this whole situation.

00:17:20.000 And until I hear an explanation of why Ukraine itself isn't worried, and apparently some of the other

00:17:26.960 European countries are just business as usual. And Ukraine itself, the cities are like, you know,

00:17:32.560 maybe we should prep or something. I feel like we should get some canned goods, but let's go party.

00:17:40.220 So if Ukraine isn't worried, 0.85

00:17:43.180 it's almost as if they know it's a bluff.

00:17:46.820 All right. I see smart people saying that the attack is just obviously going to happen. Or we're either

00:17:57.780 going to give them control or they're going to attack, but Putin is definitely going to get Ukraine. 0.80

00:18:03.060 How many of you think that's true? Based on what you know as of today, how many of you think that

00:18:09.460 they're going to take Ukraine? I think on locals, I may have influenced you too much. I worry that I

00:18:18.660 may have influenced you too much. Interesting though, I'm saying mostly no's. So most of you don't think

00:18:26.100 that an invasion is coming. But you do know that the press is trying to make you think there's one,

00:18:31.860 right? How many of you are thinking it's a wag the dog situation? That there's something going on here

00:18:40.600 that's so amazingly sketchy that you just can't believe anything you hear? I think that's where we're at.

00:18:48.020 We don't believe anything. Well, I don't think there's any risk of America and Russia going to war with

00:18:54.840 each other over this. Yeah, it really feels, if I had to put my money down, I think that Biden knows

00:19:06.600 he's in a win-win situation and Putin's in a lose-lose. So here's Biden's win-win. He either

00:19:14.760 prevents Putin from coming in, which makes him look strong, or Putin comes in and then Biden says,

00:19:23.480 aha, you fell for my trap, effectively. He wouldn't say that out loud. But then he would

00:19:29.720 just shut down Russia as a viable energy competitor. So it just looks like business to me. I mean,

00:19:37.140 it looks exactly like just a business strategy. So that's my guess. So my guess is we do have all

00:19:45.000 the lingering historical personal animosity and stuff. So that makes it a fertile situation.

00:19:50.660 But to me, this looks like business. How many would buy into the interpretation that this is

00:19:58.440 just a business move? Whatever happens, it's all business. Meaning the energy industry, the arms

00:20:06.360 industry, etc. Yeah, and some of you are saying it's obvious, right? Some saying it's dementia.

00:20:14.180 Yeah. To me, it looks like business. And if it's business, I don't know that you start firing

00:20:20.660 bullets. Not if you're smart, because that's rarely good for business.

00:20:28.200 All right.

00:20:33.720 That is the story of that Russia story. But are there more Russia stories? Yes. Because there are

00:20:40.900 only two things we care about today. What about Joe Rogan? And what about Russia?

00:20:51.100 Dear God, let there never be a Joe Rogan slash Russia story. Please, please, Democrats, do not

00:20:59.660 start another phony rumor about Joe Rogan being a Russian asset. Because I'm surprised that hasn't

00:21:07.040 happened yet. I'm pretty sure I've been accused of being a Russian asset. Is there anybody else

00:21:13.440 here who's been accused of being a Russian asset? I've been accused in public. Yeah, everyone

00:21:22.180 on Fox, I guess. So have you heard about the big news today? So there's a story about the

00:21:36.040 the Durham investigation, discovered that the Hillary Clinton campaign had been paying 0.98

00:21:45.180 some lawyers to invent, I'm going to say invent, even though that's not exactly, exactly in

00:21:54.560 evidence. But it looks like it. It looks like that is the case. To go find a way to tie Trump

00:22:01.880 to Russia. And they found a tech, the lawyers worked with a tech company that had access to

00:22:08.220 some, not only White House data, but some data on some servers in Trump Tower. I don't know

00:22:14.940 how the same entity had access to both of them. So that part of the story, I don't quite understand.

00:22:20.800 But apparently they found some complete bogus data that made it seem as if Trump had been

00:22:30.880 making some secret contacts with Russia, or a Russian bank that was, you know, connected

00:22:36.840 to the Kremlin. And apparently the evidence that they used is completely bogus. It's just

00:22:42.740 something that you would see in a database. It's been there since 2014, since well before

00:22:47.880 Trump. So whatever the data actually means, there's no evidence that has anything to do with

00:22:53.780 Trump and Russia. But at least one lawyer, I think lied about it to the Durham folks, and

00:23:01.240 he's in trouble. And it looks like the campaign was definitely involved in something that looks

00:23:08.520 like an insurrection. Because not only did they do this activity before the election, they

00:23:16.640 did it after Trump was in office. They were still spying on him through this method. They were

00:23:23.560 spying on his communication traffic, even through the point where he was in office. Now keep

00:23:31.200 in mind, this wasn't an FBI investigation, right? This was some lawyers who had some access

00:23:36.600 to some technology guys who had some access to some data. This is about the most illegal

00:23:42.100 thing you've ever heard of. You know we've been five years of hearing that everything's worse

00:23:48.320 than Watergate. As Joel Pollack pointed out when the story broke, this is actually the

00:23:54.560 first one that's literally worse than Watergate. It's bigger. And it happened not only during

00:24:01.460 an election cycle, but it happened after the president was sitting in office. Yeah, and part

00:24:09.100 of the story, as Jack Posabik has pointed out on Twitter, is that Jake Sullivan, who you all

00:24:17.200 know from the current administration, was deeply involved in all this. And Mark Goliath was part

00:24:25.440 of it, and that law firm, and basically everything that was your worst imagination of what was happening

00:24:32.060 seems to be coming true. Now, I'm going to say something that might get me in trouble here.

00:24:39.460 So I want to be really careful. This is a joke. The next thing that comes out of my mouth is a joke.

00:24:52.800 As far as you know. Just a joke. At the current rate, we're two weeks away from finding that

00:25:01.280 Pizzagate was totally real. Just a joke. Just, I swear, I swear, it's just a joke. No, no, no,

00:25:10.240 please don't censor me. No! Just kidding. Barely. So here are the interesting parts of this story

00:25:26.540 besides everything. How many times does Tucker Carlson have to be right in the most unusual

00:25:35.120 prediction I've heard in years, which is that everything that the Democrats accuse you of

00:25:42.640 doing is exactly what they're doing, like right now. Now, Tucker has been saying that for several

00:25:51.620 years, and every time I heard it, I would just harumph to myself in private, like, that's just some kind

00:25:59.300 of weird pattern recognition thing that just feels like it, but there's nothing to it, right? There's

00:26:05.920 no, there's nothing that causes that to be true. But there is absolutely something that causes that to

00:26:14.860 be true as I think about it more. And it's the fact that if they accuse you first of the thing they're

00:26:22.200 doing, they can do that thing. And then when they get caught, which is happening right now, the Durham

00:26:30.740 investigation catching the Hillary Clinton connection to this insurrection, you could call it. So once they

00:26:38.840 get caught, because they've created such an imposing narrative that it's Trump who is doing the bad

00:26:45.600 stuff, you can't see it. You become cognitively blind to one of the biggest crimes ever. And if you look

00:26:55.280 at how CNN is covering it, have you checked CNN's homepage today? Biggest story in a long time.

00:27:03.520 It's not there. I don't mean that it's a small little piece in the bottom right. I mean, it's not there. It's not

00:27:16.940 there. So I went over to MSNBC, because at the very least, we should have a story about how Fox News has a fake

00:27:25.920 news story. Because you know, they love those, right? Whenever they think Fox is getting something wrong, they'll do the

00:27:32.720 story about how Fox News is wrong about a story. So they at least they would be killing the story

00:27:39.320 if it were fake. But it's the Durham report. So they're not going to say it's fake. It's pretty

00:27:46.700 tough to say that's fake. So what do they do? Both MSNBC and CNN so far, as of just before I came on here,

00:27:55.180 they're actually ignoring the story. And they can get away with this. Because the Democrats will never

00:28:02.200 look anywhere else. And if they did, they wouldn't believe what they saw. So the mainstream media

00:28:07.580 is able, thanks to this always blaming the other side of whatever you're doing, it creates this great

00:28:15.860 cognitive distortion that you can't even see it when the other side does it, when the Democrats do it.

00:28:21.600 It's just invisible. And then the news doesn't cover it. And they can actually make it disappear.

00:28:27.580 They're disappearing on a gigantic story, successfully. Absolutely successfully.

00:28:36.900 It's mind-boggling. I was hoping that they would get their, CNN would get their crack team to talk

00:28:46.260 about this, what I think could be called legitimately a Hillary Clinton insurrection against

00:28:51.900 the government. And I was hoping that they could get Jeffrey Toobin to handle the insurrection.

00:29:01.540 Because he's pretty good at handling insurrections.

00:29:09.960 So what does CNN talk about when the biggest news in the world, or the country, I guess,

00:29:16.260 is something that they don't want to talk about? Well, here's an example. A big opinion piece

00:29:21.460 and I'm not even going to tell you the name of the author because it's just an idiot and you don't 1.00

00:29:26.720 need to know. This is the dumbest thing I've seen in a long time. This article said that Joe Rogan 1.00

00:29:33.780 using the N-word, which I remind you, his use of the N-word, although it was multiple uses,

00:29:40.620 was talking about the use of the N-word. That's always left out of the story. If you say somebody

00:29:47.640 used the N-word multiple times, don't you assume they used it in the worst possible way? You do,

00:29:55.800 right? But if I told you, well, he never used it in the way of insulting somebody, only used it in

00:30:02.700 talking about it. Whole different story. Completely different. But to CNN, they can get some action

00:30:10.760 out of this story. So they say, Joe Rogan using the N-word without being cancelled destroys a,

00:30:18.300 basically said it destroys the fabric of the civilization that's holding things together.

00:30:24.000 So this writer believes that the prohibition in which white people can't use the N-word

00:30:31.120 is such an important part of the fabric of holding our civilization together that when Joe Rogan got away

00:30:39.720 without being cancelled, it was similar to the January 6th insurrection in which both of them

00:30:47.060 are tearing apart the fabric of the country. That's actually on CNN's page today, but not the biggest

00:30:56.640 news in the country. Now, did you think CNN could get worse?

00:31:02.120 I guess so. Now, I'll tell you what's going to be interesting.

00:31:09.920 Don't you assume that CNN, you know, the, at least the hosts and the news people,

00:31:14.840 they're not all the same, right? Wouldn't you agree? There must be a variety of opinions there.

00:31:22.460 I don't think Jake Tapper can go through today without mentioning this story. What do you think?

00:31:28.160 Right? You know, Jake and I have had our differences, but I do respect him in a lot of ways.

00:31:36.540 And I don't think, no matter what his management is telling him, I don't think he can not mention

00:31:42.520 the story. So I'm going to put that, put that little prediction out there. It's entirely possible

00:31:50.800 that you're not going to hear anything from Don Lemon, right? But I think Jake is going to talk

00:31:57.940 about it. I think he will. So I have confidence that he will handle this as a professional,

00:32:04.840 no matter what, no matter what's happening in the air. So maybe I'm wrong. You know, if you want to

00:32:14.200 take the other side of that bat, go ahead. But I'm going to bet on him mentioning it today. How many of you

00:32:22.820 think I'm wrong? Many of you think I'm wrong. Good. I like it when you think I'm wrong. Now, here's a

00:32:33.920 question that I actually wonder. Did CNN have a meeting today in which they legitimately talked about how to

00:32:40.120 not cover the news? Because I think that probably happened. Like, actually, literally, I think the

00:32:49.160 most trusted name in news, CNN, as they like to call themselves, I'll bet, I mean, I don't know, I have

00:32:56.160 no way to prove it, but I'll bet you they had an actual meeting, probably phone-related, Zoom or

00:33:01.600 something, but I'll bet they had an actual meeting to talk about how not to talk about the news.

00:33:07.180 It's a news organization. I'm not making that up. I mean, I'm speculating, so I guess I am making

00:33:13.520 it up. But I'm pretty sure something like that had to happen.

00:33:21.580 Wow. So you got that going on. And then the CNN is also trying to talk up, as are the trolls on

00:33:33.400 Twitter. By the way, did you notice how quiet the trolls got? You know, the professional paid trolls

00:33:39.280 that have been jumping on us lately? Did you notice that on this story? All they have is that Trump

00:33:49.320 mishandled some documents by taking some home that were, by the way, I assume, already digitally copied.

00:33:59.620 Am I wrong? Do you think that there's any document that goes into the White House that doesn't get

00:34:06.860 digitally copied before it's handed to the president? I don't think the president sees it before it's

00:34:13.020 digitally copied, right? Don't you assume? Because I guess Trump had a habit of, like, ripping up

00:34:19.920 things after he was done with them. So of course, of course it was digitally copied. So they're making

00:34:24.820 this big story about how it's illegal. And it might be. I mean, it might actually be illegal.

00:34:29.760 But in terms of the size of the crime, is it the biggest crime in the world that Trump would want

00:34:40.020 to keep his Kim Jong-un love letters when, you know, the digital copies were part of the record

00:34:46.140 anyway? So I'm not, I can't defend Trump on this and I don't know why or even if he was involved in

00:34:53.080 the decision to keep him at Mar-a-Lago. So we don't know enough about it, but I won't defend it.

00:34:57.940 It just doesn't seem like a big deal. And then there's a story about him continually flushing

00:35:02.780 documents down the toilet, which he denies. All right, who do you believe? Do you believe that

00:35:09.300 Trump would rip documents up and walk them into the toilet and flush them? Or do you think he would

00:35:16.580 rip them up and leave them on his desk or in the trash? I mean, maybe he was reading

00:35:23.300 in there. I don't know. I don't know. You know, the only situation I can imagine is if he had

00:35:32.160 some, he had some confidential document and he didn't want to deal with it. He's like,

00:35:37.920 I just flush this freaking thing. Yeah. I don't, I don't think that story is real because it,

00:35:44.440 you know what it reminds you of? What's it remind you of? It's a little too much,

00:35:50.800 you know, steel dossier and the prostitutes bed sort of thing. Prostitutes in the bed. 1.00

00:35:59.100 Yeah, it just sounds fake. I don't believe the flushing story at all. I do believe there might, 1.00

00:36:04.420 might've been one document at the one time that ended up in the toilet or something like that,

00:36:08.580 but I don't think it was like some regular thing he did. Trump made a statement.

00:36:14.440 About the breaking news, about the Hillary campaign, digging up some dirt.

00:36:21.340 He goes, it's greater in scope and magnitude than Watergate.

00:36:27.220 Do you know who hasn't been on TV lately?

00:36:31.060 Carl Bernstein. Carl is the one they dragged down to CNN did every time they needed somebody to

00:36:38.440 literally say it's worse than Watergate. He became the worse than Watergate guy.

00:36:44.420 Carl, do you think it's worse than Watergate? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Way worse than Watergate.

00:36:50.920 Now, none of that was actually real,

00:36:52.900 but now we have something that actually is literally by any objective standard,

00:37:00.460 well documented because it's coming from Durham, but not only is it well documented to be true,

00:37:06.440 it is literally worse than Watergate because it included not only the, you know,

00:37:12.560 Watergate was only during the campaign, right?

00:37:14.500 It wasn't after the opponent became actual president of the United States.

00:37:20.840 It's worse, you know, it's bad enough before somebody gets elected,

00:37:26.600 but if you're still doing it after they got elected, oh, that's worse than Watergate.

00:37:32.360 Fairly, and I don't think that that requires much of a subjective judgment, does it?

00:37:37.880 Does that even sound like a subjective judgment to say that if one crime was stealing some stuff,

00:37:46.320 information really, you know, before an election,

00:37:50.780 that somebody who was spying on you before an election and after would be worse, right?

00:37:58.860 Like, I don't feel there's any subjectivity in that at all.

00:38:01.660 That's almost just math.

00:38:03.920 So, where's Carl?

00:38:07.880 Carl, we're calling you.

00:38:11.660 I think you need to get on there and say it's worse than Watergate.

00:38:15.560 We should start a GoFundMe to get Carl Bernstein to come on television

00:38:21.400 just to say whether it's worse than Watergate.

00:38:24.880 He would do it for a certain amount of money.

00:38:28.000 How much do you think it would cost?

00:38:31.560 I think you could get Carl Bernstein for half a million.

00:38:35.720 If you started a GoFundMe to get him just to say those words about this story,

00:38:42.100 I think you could get him to go for half a million.

00:38:45.600 What do you think?

00:38:50.240 Anyway.

00:38:50.720 There is so much to this story,

00:38:58.400 but we'll hear more about it as the day goes on.

00:39:03.520 Do you think it's a coincidence that this story dropped at the same day as the Super Bowl?

00:39:07.800 Now, there's no reason to think that Durham would drop it at a politically sensitive time or anything.

00:39:18.260 But isn't it a weird coincidence that the one day you can guarantee you were thinking about anything but the news,

00:39:26.320 at least in the United States,

00:39:28.320 the one day,

00:39:29.180 I mean, Christmas would have been better, maybe,

00:39:34.400 but only barely.

00:39:36.340 Yeah, I don't know if that's a coincidence.

00:39:38.860 I don't see how it would not be a coincidence

00:39:42.460 because it came from Durham.

00:39:44.920 If it came as a leak from the Democrats or something,

00:39:47.860 then it wouldn't be.

00:39:48.620 But I don't know.

00:39:50.020 Do the Democrats have a way to make a story like this

00:39:54.120 timed to a certain day?

00:39:57.040 Do they have that capability?

00:39:58.440 It's a big coincidence.

00:40:02.020 All right, I want to read to you

00:40:03.480 a thread by Andres Beckhaus,

00:40:07.720 who you may or may not know from Twitter as being a PhD in economics.

00:40:14.100 And he's usually my go-to for debunking other people's claims with studies

00:40:19.880 because he's real good at looking at his study and saying,

00:40:22.620 oh, it's lacking these controls

00:40:24.300 or they missed some logical comparison or something like that.

00:40:29.340 But he has a fairly brilliant thread.

00:40:35.340 And here's the filter I'm going to put on this.

00:40:38.040 If you write like an economist,

00:40:42.420 you end up writing like a comedian.

00:40:46.500 That's my claim.

00:40:48.120 If you write like an economist,

00:40:50.260 you also will write like a comedian accidentally.

00:40:53.120 And here's why that's true.

00:40:56.300 A good economist

00:40:57.880 and someone who can write in that style

00:41:00.640 will strip out all the noise

00:41:03.180 and very cleanly and clearly and quickly

00:41:06.700 get to the essence of the point.

00:41:09.740 That's what economists are good at.

00:41:11.820 Get rid of all the complexity,

00:41:13.640 boil it down,

00:41:14.380 okay, it's just about employment.

00:41:17.040 Something like that.

00:41:17.640 That's exactly the same skill that a humor writer uses.

00:41:23.160 A humor writer takes a complicated situation,

00:41:25.980 strips down all the noise,

00:41:27.360 gets down to just the central thing.

00:41:29.280 So when I read this,

00:41:31.800 even though he writes it in a lifestyle,

00:41:33.800 I just want you to be kind of listening to the content

00:41:36.840 but also keeping this recording in the back of your head

00:41:39.320 of how similar economics writing and humor writing is.

00:41:43.000 It's just a weird little lesson about simplicity, I guess.

00:41:49.520 Okay, so here's his thread.

00:41:53.060 And by the way, of course, I think it's smart

00:41:55.160 because I agree with it.

00:41:56.340 So anything that agrees with me looks smarter.

00:41:59.440 Do we agree?

00:42:00.680 I think we do.

00:42:02.340 All right, so Andre says,

00:42:03.840 in the late stage of the pandemic, 0.97

00:42:05.880 the debates and opinions are getting dumber, 0.99

00:42:08.260 not smarter, 0.99

00:42:09.460 as you may have noticed.

00:42:10.700 I like that he threw in the,

00:42:13.180 as you may have noticed,

00:42:14.260 because we probably all think we have.

00:42:16.800 He goes,

00:42:17.140 more vitriol,

00:42:18.020 more revisionism,

00:42:19.240 more incitement.

00:42:20.540 The simple reason is economics.

00:42:23.220 Interesting.

00:42:24.300 Let's see if he can make that case, 0.97

00:42:26.040 that the reason we're getting dumber is economics. 0.96

00:42:28.900 He says, 0.90

00:42:29.420 COVID appears less dangerous now,

00:42:31.400 so it's less costly now to be wrong.

00:42:35.340 Okay, you get that?

00:42:37.080 If you said something in public

00:42:38.500 that caused somebody to do the wrong thing, 0.99

00:42:41.060 you could kill them. 0.97

00:42:42.720 But now you really can't. 1.00

00:42:44.780 So now you can be wrong

00:42:46.000 without a risk of actually killing somebody.

00:42:48.480 So in economics terms,

00:42:49.880 it's cheaper to be wrong.

00:42:52.260 So, Andreas goes on.

00:42:54.060 In 2020 and 2021,

00:42:56.460 there was still a fair amount of risk

00:42:58.600 that dismissing facts

00:43:00.300 and scientific views about COVID

00:43:02.040 might turn out to be catastrophic.

00:43:04.280 I think some of the critics

00:43:06.200 felt this sword of Damocles above their heads.

00:43:09.940 Now they feel they can just go

00:43:11.280 with whatever they want to.

00:43:12.900 In economic terms,

00:43:14.260 the thread goes on,

00:43:15.540 the risk-adjusted price of talking nonsense

00:43:17.720 has decreased,

00:43:19.140 while the public is demanding more nonsense

00:43:22.420 now relative to scientific opinion.

00:43:25.400 As COVID seems manageable,

00:43:28.300 new equilibrium,

00:43:30.040 where more nonsense is traded

00:43:31.820 and spewed than before.

00:43:34.500 This tendency away from reason,

00:43:36.480 somewhat scientifically-based views

00:43:38.420 is in part consequential,

00:43:41.140 as the decision on the end of the pandemic

00:43:43.420 and measures

00:43:44.620 is now more determined by public opinion

00:43:47.040 and sentiment,

00:43:48.740 less by scientific approval.

00:43:51.060 Whether this will work out,

00:43:52.560 we'll see.

00:43:53.660 The irony being that science alone

00:43:55.760 has first put society

00:43:57.680 into the position

00:44:01.120 where society

00:44:01.940 can rely less on science now.

00:44:05.840 Do you get that?

00:44:06.920 So the claim is that the science

00:44:08.460 was sufficiently successful

00:44:11.040 to get us toward the end of the pandemic.

00:44:14.440 The science was so successful

00:44:16.500 we can now ignore it, basically.

00:44:19.460 And then he says,

00:44:20.440 I guess this could be something

00:44:21.600 to complain about,

00:44:22.540 but it also seems like

00:44:24.100 the eternal,

00:44:24.900 ever-recurring fate of science.

00:44:27.460 So science is kind of self-cancelling

00:44:29.840 in the sense that

00:44:31.380 when it succeeds,

00:44:32.720 you can start ignoring it again.

00:44:36.480 It might still get a good deal 0.99

00:44:38.920 dumber for a while. 0.88

00:44:40.460 The motivations now 0.98

00:44:41.420 are retroactively

00:44:42.300 bending narratives into shape

00:44:44.620 and taking revenge.

00:44:46.600 So we've gone from trying

00:44:48.000 to keep ourselves alive

00:44:49.680 into bending narratives

00:44:52.020 and seeking revenge,

00:44:53.900 all while enjoying

00:44:55.740 the protective umbrella

00:44:56.880 put up by scientific achievement

00:44:59.080 and medical effort.

00:45:00.820 Scientific achievement

00:45:01.680 in this context

00:45:02.740 meaning all we've done

00:45:04.900 to scientifically address

00:45:07.780 the virus.

00:45:09.440 Now,

00:45:10.540 I think that was just

00:45:12.120 some great writing.

00:45:13.800 And you'll find

00:45:14.840 that economists

00:45:15.600 typically are better

00:45:17.800 than normal at writing.

00:45:20.220 If they're good.

00:45:20.940 If they're good at their jobs.

00:45:22.480 There's a book called

00:45:23.280 Freakonomics

00:45:24.120 that I recommend.

00:45:25.460 And I think

00:45:26.200 Super Freakonomics,

00:45:28.160 those are real good examples

00:45:29.260 of that.

00:45:31.660 Mike says,

00:45:32.480 Scott,

00:45:32.820 you were like a son to me.

00:45:35.280 Well,

00:45:36.020 I'd like to complain

00:45:37.160 about my allowance.

00:45:39.120 You're just not

00:45:40.060 stepping it up.

00:45:45.360 Economists like Krugman.

00:45:46.340 Yeah,

00:45:47.000 I don't say

00:45:47.560 economists are always right.

00:45:50.300 Because economists

00:45:51.260 are really not,

00:45:52.520 you know,

00:45:53.140 that much better

00:45:53.860 at predicting

00:45:54.380 than anybody else is.

00:45:55.440 Because nobody

00:45:55.840 can predict anything.

00:45:57.280 But even if you looked

00:45:58.240 at Krugman's writing,

00:46:01.780 if you're being honest,

00:46:04.440 if you're being honest,

00:46:06.580 even though you disagree

00:46:07.640 with Krugman

00:46:08.320 on a number of things

00:46:09.240 some of you do,

00:46:10.480 his writing

00:46:11.400 is excellent.

00:46:12.700 Sorry.

00:46:16.080 You know,

00:46:16.360 I know you want,

00:46:17.320 if you don't like him,

00:46:18.100 you want his writing

00:46:18.740 to be bad.

00:46:19.320 But his writing

00:46:19.780 is excellent.

00:46:20.860 It really is.

00:46:28.220 Did someone have

00:46:29.320 turned the hot air on?

00:46:31.840 So,

00:46:33.200 is winter over

00:46:34.920 where you are?

00:46:36.120 In my town,

00:46:37.160 it was 77 degrees

00:46:38.580 yesterday,

00:46:39.360 and I'm pretty sure

00:46:40.660 winter's over already.

00:46:41.700 Oh,

00:46:43.960 it's snowing

00:46:44.460 where you are.

00:46:45.200 Sorry.

00:46:46.260 Well,

00:46:46.560 that climate change

00:46:47.640 is working its magic

00:46:49.820 on me.

00:46:51.300 All right,

00:46:51.580 so here's a question

00:46:52.980 to close things out.

00:46:54.820 How many things

00:46:55.560 was Trump right about?

00:46:58.260 Now,

00:46:58.840 of course,

00:46:59.300 depending on your politics,

00:47:01.340 you're going to have

00:47:01.960 very,

00:47:02.820 very different opinions.

00:47:04.620 But,

00:47:05.960 he was right about

00:47:06.900 China being 0.97

00:47:07.680 the big problem.

00:47:08.440 I think he was right

00:47:10.700 on border security.

00:47:13.740 I don't agree

00:47:14.760 with everything

00:47:15.340 he says and does

00:47:16.260 on border security,

00:47:17.320 but compared to

00:47:18.300 what we got

00:47:18.980 with Biden,

00:47:19.740 it looked better.

00:47:22.980 He was right

00:47:23.800 on North Korea.

00:47:24.620 I think he was right

00:47:25.320 in the Middle East.

00:47:26.060 I think he

00:47:28.200 probably could have

00:47:30.440 dealt with

00:47:30.960 Putin better

00:47:32.340 because he doesn't

00:47:33.240 have any kind

00:47:34.500 of a personal history

00:47:35.320 with him.

00:47:37.920 Tapping the wires,

00:47:38.900 right,

00:47:39.080 he was right

00:47:39.560 that he had been

00:47:40.100 spied on.

00:47:41.120 That is correct.

00:47:43.520 Do you know

00:47:44.160 what the one thing,

00:47:45.800 now,

00:47:46.080 would you say

00:47:46.480 he was right

00:47:46.960 on climate change,

00:47:48.360 saying it was

00:47:49.220 a Chinese hoax?

00:47:50.360 I think

00:47:52.300 that's an

00:47:53.240 interpretation

00:47:53.760 question

00:47:54.500 because

00:47:56.180 just my

00:47:57.580 own view,

00:47:59.080 he wouldn't

00:47:59.580 be right

00:48:00.140 if he said

00:48:01.100 the planet

00:48:01.620 is not getting

00:48:02.360 warmer.

00:48:03.840 I don't think

00:48:04.600 that would be right.

00:48:05.940 But,

00:48:07.100 he would be right

00:48:08.120 if he said

00:48:08.800 the Paris

00:48:10.740 Climate Accord

00:48:11.580 was a big

00:48:13.080 old joke

00:48:13.660 and it was

00:48:14.940 just good

00:48:15.340 for China

00:48:15.860 and bad

00:48:16.460 for us.

00:48:17.400 That part,

00:48:18.020 I think,

00:48:18.220 is proven true.

00:48:18.940 So,

00:48:20.160 depending on

00:48:20.620 how you

00:48:21.200 interpret

00:48:22.160 what he meant

00:48:22.920 by a hoax,

00:48:23.920 if you think

00:48:24.980 the hoax

00:48:25.420 was the science

00:48:26.120 part,

00:48:27.680 that's one thing.

00:48:29.500 But,

00:48:29.760 if you think

00:48:30.100 it was the

00:48:30.540 China part,

00:48:31.620 well,

00:48:31.940 he was right

00:48:32.320 about that.

00:48:33.340 He said

00:48:33.660 it was a

00:48:33.980 Chinese hoax. 0.73

00:48:35.120 He didn't

00:48:35.680 say it was

00:48:36.140 a science

00:48:37.320 hoax,

00:48:37.740 did he?

00:48:38.600 If he had

00:48:39.220 said it was

00:48:39.580 a scientific

00:48:40.220 hoax,

00:48:40.820 I'd be like,

00:48:41.360 okay,

00:48:41.740 that's just

00:48:42.380 maybe not

00:48:43.740 what's going

00:48:44.160 on here.

00:48:45.100 But,

00:48:45.500 by saying

00:48:45.840 it's a

00:48:46.140 Chinese hoax,

00:48:47.380 he limited

00:48:48.080 the comment

00:48:49.020 to something

00:48:49.600 about China,

00:48:50.600 which is

00:48:51.640 different from

00:48:52.140 the question

00:48:52.560 of are we

00:48:53.080 getting warmer?

00:48:55.300 Right?

00:48:55.860 So,

00:48:56.260 I think

00:48:56.440 that's an

00:48:56.820 interpretation.

00:48:57.560 But,

00:48:57.720 you can

00:48:57.940 interpret that

00:48:58.480 either way.

00:48:58.920 I think

00:48:59.120 that would

00:48:59.400 be fair.

00:49:02.980 Yeah.

00:49:03.800 So,

00:49:04.380 the only thing

00:49:05.220 that Trump

00:49:05.740 has been

00:49:06.120 wrong about

00:49:07.380 is that

00:49:09.800 the elections

00:49:10.440 were

00:49:11.020 fraudulent.

00:49:13.000 because,

00:49:14.640 as you

00:49:14.900 know,

00:49:16.460 there's

00:49:16.840 absolutely

00:49:17.880 no

00:49:18.580 court-approved

00:49:20.920 evidence,

00:49:22.640 no court

00:49:23.280 has found

00:49:23.860 that the

00:49:24.860 elections

00:49:25.160 were fraudulent.

00:49:26.620 But,

00:49:27.160 it's funny

00:49:27.500 how he was

00:49:28.040 right about

00:49:28.440 everything else.

00:49:30.060 And,

00:49:30.280 you know

00:49:30.380 what's even

00:49:30.740 funnier?

00:49:32.380 Trump was

00:49:33.020 right about

00:49:33.500 things before

00:49:34.220 he had

00:49:34.540 evidence.

00:49:37.460 Because,

00:49:38.240 he was

00:49:38.500 pretty sure

00:49:38.960 that his

00:49:39.600 campaign was

00:49:40.240 bugged before

00:49:40.880 he knew.

00:49:41.320 how do

00:49:42.780 he know

00:49:43.020 that?

00:49:44.920 Have you

00:49:45.540 noticed that

00:49:46.140 in a lot

00:49:46.800 of cases,

00:49:47.900 Trump guesses

00:49:48.760 right?

00:49:50.180 He's pretty

00:49:50.900 lucky,

00:49:51.380 isn't he?

00:49:54.240 Maybe it's

00:49:54.960 not luck.

00:49:57.260 If you

00:49:58.560 could say

00:49:58.920 one thing

00:49:59.400 about Trump

00:49:59.920 that even

00:50:00.400 his critics

00:50:01.180 would agree

00:50:01.840 with,

00:50:03.140 I think

00:50:03.560 they would

00:50:03.860 say this.

00:50:05.180 It takes

00:50:05.680 one to

00:50:06.080 know one.

00:50:07.480 Am I

00:50:07.740 right?

00:50:08.680 In a

00:50:09.380 variety of

00:50:10.020 ways,

00:50:10.520 no matter

00:50:10.860 what

00:50:11.080 realm

00:50:11.360 you're

00:50:11.580 in,

00:50:12.320 it

00:50:12.540 kind

00:50:12.720 of

00:50:12.840 takes

00:50:13.100 one

00:50:13.300 to

00:50:13.440 know

00:50:13.660 one.

00:50:14.440 I

00:50:14.620 like

00:50:14.940 to

00:50:15.080 use

00:50:15.260 the

00:50:15.400 example

00:50:15.740 of

00:50:16.100 I

00:50:17.260 played

00:50:17.700 tennis,

00:50:18.300 played

00:50:18.540 a lot

00:50:18.760 of

00:50:18.880 tennis.

00:50:19.100 So if

00:50:20.180 I watch

00:50:20.500 a movie

00:50:20.980 in which

00:50:21.640 somebody

00:50:22.060 is

00:50:22.340 purportedly

00:50:23.420 playing

00:50:23.920 tennis

00:50:24.280 well,

00:50:25.240 well,

00:50:25.560 I can

00:50:25.880 tell that

00:50:26.320 that's

00:50:26.820 not a

00:50:27.180 real

00:50:27.320 tennis

00:50:27.620 player.

00:50:28.720 But maybe

00:50:29.140 you can't,

00:50:30.140 right?

00:50:30.460 Because it

00:50:30.820 takes one

00:50:31.220 to know

00:50:31.540 one.

00:50:32.180 If you

00:50:32.540 play

00:50:32.760 tennis,

00:50:33.200 it's

00:50:33.340 obvious,

00:50:33.800 oh,

00:50:33.960 that's

00:50:34.140 just an

00:50:34.460 actor who's

00:50:35.460 probably never

00:50:35.940 touched a

00:50:41.080 probably the

00:50:42.060 most accomplished

00:50:42.780 bullshitter

00:50:43.340 in the

00:50:43.620 world.

00:50:44.900 I think

00:50:45.760 Trump knows 1.00

00:50:46.380 bullshit. 1.00

00:50:48.180 Is that 1.00

00:50:48.900 not fair

00:50:49.420 to say?

00:50:50.860 If his

00:50:51.680 critics are

00:50:52.240 right,

00:50:52.720 let's say

00:50:53.300 his critics

00:50:53.760 are right

00:50:54.160 about

00:50:54.340 everything,

00:50:55.400 just

00:50:55.600 whatever's

00:50:56.020 the worst

00:50:56.560 view you

00:50:57.060 can make

00:50:57.380 of him,

00:50:58.280 wouldn't

00:50:58.720 that make

00:50:59.220 him exactly

00:51:00.460 the person

00:51:01.020 who could

00:51:01.400 spot 1.00

00:51:01.680 bullshit 1.00

00:51:02.020 the best? 1.00

00:51:03.620 Because it

00:51:04.800 would be

00:51:05.040 his world.

00:51:06.300 You know,

00:51:06.560 a con

00:51:06.940 artist can

00:51:07.660 spot a

00:51:08.100 con.

00:51:09.280 Am I

00:51:09.620 right?

00:51:09.820 Who would

00:51:11.620 spot a

00:51:12.060 con faster

00:51:12.960 than a

00:51:13.380 con

00:51:13.620 artist?

00:51:14.620 Nobody,

00:51:15.140 because they

00:51:15.380 see it

00:51:15.680 right away.

00:51:16.040 Oh,

00:51:16.240 that pattern.

00:51:17.100 I use

00:51:17.440 that pattern

00:51:17.840 too.

00:51:19.260 So,

00:51:20.600 I think

00:51:21.900 Trump has

00:51:22.500 lived such

00:51:23.300 a varied

00:51:25.180 and interesting

00:51:25.960 life that

00:51:27.120 he's seen

00:51:27.620 every crime.

00:51:29.400 I think

00:51:29.820 he's seen

00:51:30.180 every kind

00:51:30.680 of government

00:51:31.140 corruption,

00:51:32.080 up close

00:51:32.620 and personally.

00:51:33.840 I think

00:51:34.200 he's seen

00:51:34.580 every manner

00:51:35.620 of business

00:51:36.340 corruption,

00:51:37.460 up close

00:51:38.020 and personally.

00:51:38.560 I think

00:51:39.560 he's seen

00:51:40.080 every just

00:51:41.560 straight crime,

00:51:42.980 just regular

00:51:43.780 criminals doing

00:51:44.740 criminal stuff.

00:51:46.360 Because remember,

00:51:47.940 Trump is not

00:51:48.580 the guy who

00:51:49.080 only hangs

00:51:49.620 out with

00:51:50.660 the elites,

00:51:51.820 which is one

00:51:52.940 of the reasons

00:51:53.340 people like him.

00:51:54.660 He seems to

00:51:55.600 have a genuine

00:51:56.480 affection for

00:51:58.960 just people.

00:52:02.300 And so,

00:52:03.100 I just think

00:52:03.780 he's maybe

00:52:04.200 more connected

00:52:05.160 to the seedy

00:52:07.300 underbelly of

00:52:08.160 life than

00:52:08.780 most people.

00:52:09.680 Well,

00:52:10.040 let's say it

00:52:10.500 this way.

00:52:11.260 He's completely

00:52:12.060 not insulated.

00:52:14.660 How about

00:52:15.220 that?

00:52:16.500 He's completely

00:52:17.400 non-insulated

00:52:18.760 from ordinary

00:52:19.720 people.

00:52:21.400 You know,

00:52:21.620 he's eating

00:52:22.320 the Taco

00:52:22.960 Bell just

00:52:23.460 like everybody

00:52:23.980 else.

00:52:24.900 He's hanging

00:52:25.480 with the,

00:52:26.160 you know,

00:52:26.840 hanging with

00:52:27.280 the staff,

00:52:27.840 etc.

00:52:28.540 Now,

00:52:29.380 I told you

00:52:30.220 that when I

00:52:30.580 visited the

00:52:31.100 White House

00:52:31.440 and I got

00:52:31.780 to chat

00:52:32.180 with him

00:52:32.440 a little

00:52:32.640 while,

00:52:33.420 that that

00:52:33.900 actually is

00:52:34.580 the thing

00:52:34.900 you feel.

00:52:36.620 When you're

00:52:37.240 talking to

00:52:37.700 him in

00:52:37.980 person,

00:52:39.200 and you

00:52:39.540 know,

00:52:39.640 this is the

00:52:40.060 first time

00:52:40.500 I'd bet

00:52:40.880 him in

00:52:41.140 person,

00:52:41.900 and the

00:52:42.440 only time,

00:52:43.520 you immediately

00:52:45.780 feel that

00:52:46.680 he's interested

00:52:47.320 in you.

00:52:48.880 Now,

00:52:49.200 I bet you

00:52:49.460 didn't see

00:52:49.760 that comment,

00:52:50.600 did you?

00:52:51.060 If you're a 0.88

00:52:51.860 Trump critic,

00:52:53.980 doesn't that

00:52:54.420 just blow your 0.99

00:52:55.000 mind?

00:52:56.440 That I'm

00:52:57.340 sitting in the

00:52:57.840 Oval Office

00:52:58.540 and he had

00:52:59.500 a conspicuous,

00:53:00.980 a conspicuous

00:53:02.480 curiosity,

00:53:03.240 and a

00:53:04.700 genuine

00:53:05.140 connection,

00:53:06.680 empathy,

00:53:07.440 with me.

00:53:09.380 I was just

00:53:09.960 a guy in

00:53:11.020 the office.

00:53:12.120 So,

00:53:12.580 obviously,

00:53:14.220 everything's in

00:53:15.020 a political

00:53:15.440 context,

00:53:16.200 but you

00:53:17.600 could really

00:53:17.980 see how

00:53:18.540 he would

00:53:19.000 be just

00:53:19.520 maybe more

00:53:20.260 connected to

00:53:21.920 what is

00:53:22.260 ordinary and

00:53:23.080 real than

00:53:23.760 some people

00:53:24.240 might be.

00:53:24.860 They might

00:53:25.140 be a little

00:53:25.420 more insulated.

00:53:33.240 All right.

00:53:37.300 Somebody else

00:53:38.100 is saying

00:53:38.420 that they

00:53:38.720 have a

00:53:38.960 friend who

00:53:39.320 had the

00:53:39.580 same

00:53:39.780 experience

00:53:40.280 with him?

00:53:41.200 Yeah.

00:53:44.820 Yeah,

00:53:45.480 when you

00:53:46.240 see him

00:53:46.540 in person,

00:53:47.200 he's just

00:53:47.560 very real.

00:53:49.920 You know,

00:53:50.280 he's also

00:53:51.240 completely aware

00:53:52.780 of the

00:53:53.740 difference

00:53:54.100 between

00:53:54.560 what's real

00:53:55.120 and what's

00:53:55.500 a show.

00:53:57.220 And once

00:53:58.180 you realize

00:53:58.700 how aware

00:53:59.460 he is of

00:54:00.180 what's the

00:54:00.640 show and

00:54:01.180 what's not

00:54:02.300 the show,

00:54:03.120 it just

00:54:03.760 puts you

00:54:04.100 in a

00:54:04.280 whole

00:54:04.420 different

00:54:04.840 frame of

00:54:05.620 mind about

00:54:06.100 what he's

00:54:06.480 about.

00:54:10.180 All right.

00:54:11.680 I do not

00:54:12.480 have anything

00:54:13.000 else to talk

00:54:13.560 about because

00:54:14.000 I think this

00:54:14.540 was such

00:54:15.320 an interesting

00:54:15.800 day.

00:54:16.540 Oh, I see

00:54:17.040 you mentioning

00:54:17.520 Trudeau.

00:54:19.280 Is it my

00:54:20.020 imagination

00:54:20.660 or have

00:54:22.800 the truckers

00:54:23.400 taken down

00:54:24.040 the Trudeau

00:54:24.760 administration?

00:54:26.760 Now, not

00:54:27.480 yet, because

00:54:28.820 he's still in

00:54:29.320 power, but

00:54:30.320 am I

00:54:32.220 over

00:54:32.540 interpreting

00:54:32.960 this?

00:54:33.360 Because I'm

00:54:33.920 not really

00:54:34.320 connected to

00:54:35.060 Canadian

00:54:36.200 public opinion.

00:54:39.600 But I

00:54:40.340 feel as if

00:54:41.000 the truckers

00:54:41.560 have ended

00:54:41.940 his political

00:54:42.660 career.

00:54:43.060 Am I

00:54:44.240 wrong?

00:54:45.960 The way he

00:54:47.100 handled it

00:54:47.660 was so weak

00:54:48.580 and he

00:54:50.400 didn't really

00:54:50.780 explain himself

00:54:51.580 as well as

00:54:52.380 maybe it

00:54:52.860 could have

00:54:53.440 done.

00:54:53.900 So even if

00:54:54.500 you're on

00:54:54.820 his side,

00:54:55.400 I think you

00:54:55.760 have to say

00:54:56.220 the way he

00:54:56.620 handled it

00:54:57.020 wasn't ideal.

00:54:57.780 It's

00:55:00.140 close, but

00:55:00.700 he just

00:55:00.960 won a

00:55:01.240 mandate?

00:55:03.720 Yeah, I

00:55:04.700 feel like the

00:55:05.280 truckers took

00:55:05.860 out his

00:55:06.440 administration.

00:55:08.320 But I

00:55:08.860 don't know.

00:55:09.520 We'll find

00:55:09.940 out.

00:55:10.680 All right,

00:55:11.040 that's all

00:55:11.360 for now.

00:55:12.460 I'll talk

00:55:12.940 to you

00:55:13.300 tomorrow.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - February 13, 2022

Episode 1653 Scott Adams： Breaking Bombshell Report From Durham About Hillary Clinton, Russia, More

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