Real Coffee with Scott Adams - February 14, 2022


Episode 1654 Scott Adams： Racism Got Weird, Pandemic Ends, Ukraine Still an Enigma, Lots of Fun


Episode Stats

Length

51 minutes

Words per Minute

141.39328

Word Count

7,327

Sentence Count

446

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.460 Good morning, and welcome to the highlight of your entire existence, and that includes
00:00:08.900 Valentine's Day.
00:00:10.740 Now, a lot of you are going to have incredible sex today, and still, this will be better.
00:00:18.520 Yeah, I know, I know.
00:00:21.220 It doesn't seem possible, but you just watch.
00:00:23.520 Now, as I was just watching before I got out here on YouTube, I was watching the memes
00:00:30.820 streamed by on Locals subscription platform, and one of them was that today is Singles
00:00:39.100 Awareness Day.
00:00:42.720 Is this the worst day in the world to be single?
00:00:46.340 I don't know.
00:00:47.300 It might be.
00:00:49.440 So let's take it up a notch.
00:00:51.600 Let's have a drink.
00:00:53.820 Do you have Valentine's Day?
00:00:55.560 And all you need is a cup or mug or a glass, a tinker, chels, a stein, a canteen, jug,
00:00:59.000 or a flask, a vessel of any kind.
00:01:01.400 Fill it with your favorite liquid.
00:01:02.400 I like coffee.
00:01:03.880 And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that
00:01:09.660 makes everything better.
00:01:11.480 It's called the simultaneous sip, and aren't you glad you made it for this?
00:01:15.540 Whoa.
00:01:16.720 Go.
00:01:21.120 Mmm.
00:01:22.060 Mmm.
00:01:22.800 Yeah.
00:01:23.520 Okay.
00:01:25.300 In the comments, how many of you are having sex right now?
00:01:30.120 Anybody?
00:01:32.600 Am I the only one?
00:01:35.820 No, I'm just kidding.
00:01:38.160 I'm not.
00:01:38.880 All right.
00:01:41.540 All right.
00:01:41.580 All right.
00:01:42.260 Okay.
00:01:42.660 Some of you are tubing.
00:01:43.740 I realize that I gave you that little setup there, and you grabbed it.
00:01:49.540 You grabbed it.
00:01:50.880 All right.
00:01:51.380 Here's a little safety tip for you.
00:01:53.660 Two tips.
00:01:55.000 Number one, have you ever seen those automated traffic speed signs in your neighborhood?
00:02:01.460 Good.
00:02:02.460 So there'll be a little wheeled cart that the police will put there.
00:02:05.920 It's got a little radar on it, and there's no person there.
00:02:10.460 It's just a robot.
00:02:11.360 And it tells you what your speed is.
00:02:13.420 Now, when you see that your speed is above the speed limit, what do you do when the robot is telling you that?
00:02:20.640 Do you slow down?
00:02:21.420 How many of you slow down because the robot told you to slow down?
00:02:27.720 Probably a lot of you.
00:02:28.720 That's why they do it.
00:02:30.400 Do you know what I do?
00:02:33.720 Well, I have a degree in economics, so that's how I see the world.
00:02:39.340 And is there anybody else here, before I give you the answer, is there anybody else here who has a degree in economics?
00:02:47.500 Probably, right?
00:02:48.640 There's somebody here.
00:02:49.320 And don't give away the answer.
00:02:53.820 If you have a degree in economics, you say to yourself, is the police force, which, of course, has a shortage of resources, because everybody does,
00:03:04.040 do you think the police force is going to put a robot there that slows you down and then also a speed trap?
00:03:11.280 It's the one place in the world you can guarantee you're not going to get a ticket because the economics of it would be absurd.
00:03:17.460 You don't slow people down and give them tickets at the same time.
00:03:22.120 So when I see one of those, I'm like, oh, free pass.
00:03:25.340 I guess I can go whatever speed I want.
00:03:27.380 No, I'm not saying I speed up.
00:03:29.440 I'm just saying that if you have an economics filter on life, as soon as you see that thing, you say to yourself, well, I guess I don't have to slow down.
00:03:38.160 It's the only place I can go today that I don't have to worry about a ticket.
00:03:43.420 Now, let's take that concept, and I'm going to expand it and extend it to something that's closer to you.
00:03:50.880 How many of you use encrypted apps because you feel safer?
00:03:56.740 Anybody?
00:03:57.100 Who uses an encrypted app?
00:04:00.820 Because if you've got that encryption, you're all safe, right?
00:04:07.960 Okay, economists.
00:04:12.680 Anybody?
00:04:13.720 Any economists?
00:04:14.540 If you were, let's say, the CIA or some intelligence agency, would you go looking around and just everybody's unencrypted messages looking for the good stuff?
00:04:30.220 Or would you likely put all of your energy into looking at how you can get into the encrypted apps because that's where all the good stuff is?
00:04:38.380 The economics of it guarantees that the place you're most likely to get caught doing something terrible is on an encrypted app.
00:04:48.460 Now, maybe not immediately.
00:04:50.980 It might take them a while to figure out a backdoor.
00:04:54.500 I don't know if they crack the apps or if they just coerce the management or they get an insider that they bribe.
00:05:01.260 However they do it, right?
00:05:02.960 The intelligence agencies can just chip away at it until they succeed.
00:05:06.380 Because there's no cost in failure.
00:05:09.560 If you can't crack it, well, you just didn't crack it.
00:05:12.780 But you're going to keep trying until you do.
00:05:15.440 And the intelligence agencies, of course, would succeed in the long run, one way or the other,
00:05:20.540 either by human corruption or cracking the code with quantum computers or God knows what.
00:05:27.480 So I would say to you, get rid of your encrypted apps.
00:05:31.840 Because what they're going to do is lure you into saying something that you should not put on an app.
00:05:37.980 Hear this really clearly.
00:05:41.060 If you have an encrypted app, it's going to make you feel safe.
00:05:45.000 And then you're going to put something in that app that you should not ever write down.
00:05:50.180 Am I right?
00:05:50.940 How many people have written something in an encrypted app because they said, well, at least this is safe?
00:05:59.500 Don't.
00:06:01.600 Everything you write down is discoverable.
00:06:04.400 There's just no exception to that.
00:06:06.800 All right.
00:06:07.400 That's your advice for the day.
00:06:08.780 Congratulations to Jared Kushner and Avi Berkowitz for being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for their work in the Abraham Accords.
00:06:22.780 Now, this is the second time they've been nominated.
00:06:26.400 Is that right?
00:06:27.480 And how does that work?
00:06:28.440 Can you be nominated time after time?
00:06:31.720 I'm not sure if there's any kind of eligibility per year or anything like that.
00:06:37.900 I guess you could.
00:06:39.760 But this is quite an accomplishment.
00:06:46.700 And, you know, what's interesting is that Trump is not nominated.
00:06:51.020 Is that weird?
00:06:53.080 How did any of this happen without Trump?
00:06:57.500 It doesn't really make sense, does it?
00:06:59.720 I mean, it just seems such an obvious snub.
00:07:02.840 You know, maybe the problem here is, you know, and nobody's disputing that.
00:07:08.660 But who did the hard work was Jared and Avi.
00:07:13.160 They obviously did the work.
00:07:15.220 But doesn't the president get a little bit of something?
00:07:21.680 Nothing?
00:07:22.140 Well, I mean, that feels a little unfair.
00:07:24.520 You know, I get that not everybody is putting in the same amount or type of work into every project.
00:07:31.420 But, I mean, I can't imagine it would have happened with a different president.
00:07:37.000 But with all credit to Avi Berkowitz and Jared Kushner.
00:07:42.300 So, mask mandates are going to end tomorrow in California.
00:07:54.160 Allegedly.
00:07:55.520 Allegedly.
00:07:56.480 But not for students.
00:07:58.700 So, this is how absurd things have become.
00:08:02.380 So, yesterday, you know, it was the Super Bowl, obviously.
00:08:05.360 So, how many people celebrated with other people for the Super Bowl?
00:08:11.320 In the comments, how many of you were in some kind of a group situation?
00:08:17.220 Pretty much, probably 70% of you, right?
00:08:21.160 Did anybody find themselves in a group situation with friends where anybody was wearing a mask?
00:08:30.140 Anybody?
00:08:31.340 Was anybody at home or had some friends home?
00:08:36.620 No masks, right?
00:08:37.680 Now, so, in my neighborhood, the kids went to Super Bowl games.
00:08:45.720 Because, you know, the kids are involved, whether it's directly or indirectly for them.
00:08:50.260 They're always there.
00:08:51.380 So, the kids were in some big crowds, you know, all weekend.
00:08:55.240 Then, probably something like half of all the kids in my town were involved in a sleepover.
00:09:02.280 Someplace.
00:09:03.320 Over the weekend.
00:09:04.600 Right?
00:09:04.780 Everybody within a certain age group, they're all doing the sleepovers.
00:09:08.180 Do you think they're wearing masks?
00:09:10.520 No.
00:09:11.720 No.
00:09:12.400 Nobody is.
00:09:13.700 So, you have this massive, like, close quarters mingling.
00:09:19.200 And the only time that they wear a mask is in school, inside.
00:09:24.980 And do you know what?
00:09:27.540 It's the one thing you can't do in school, inside the building.
00:09:33.660 You can't get really close to other people.
00:09:36.440 Because that's the time you're going to be sitting in your little chair.
00:09:40.080 Right?
00:09:40.600 It's the only time you're not that close to people.
00:09:43.000 But as soon as they leave, they take the masks off.
00:09:45.080 And they're hugging each other.
00:09:46.160 And they're crawling over each other.
00:09:47.520 And they're giving hickeys.
00:09:48.960 And they're making out.
00:09:49.740 And they're hooking up.
00:09:50.480 And they're, you know, they're passing bongs around and whatever God knows thing.
00:09:54.780 And having sleepovers.
00:09:56.600 You know, there'll be a pile of kids in a sleepover.
00:09:59.860 So, literally, the safest place those kids will ever be, in terms of COVID, the safest place is when they're sitting in desks that have to be at least a few feet apart from each other.
00:10:15.380 All the other time, they're all on top of each other, like a big old pig pile.
00:10:21.340 So, everything about this is just upside down and crazy.
00:10:24.200 But, at least tomorrow-ish, masks will be off.
00:10:30.680 Now, for some of us locally, the masks have been off for some time.
00:10:34.400 And I can tell you that only once was I ever asked to put on a mask.
00:10:39.120 Only once.
00:10:40.420 In the last few weeks.
00:10:42.560 And that one time was a local business.
00:10:44.780 And I didn't want to make trouble for the employees.
00:10:46.900 So, I complied.
00:10:51.520 All right.
00:10:52.200 Apparently, 70% of Americans, according to a Monmouth University poll, 70% of Americans want to accept COVID-19 and get on with their lives.
00:11:02.600 Now, this poll was published at the end of January.
00:11:06.380 So, the last two weeks have been pretty, you know, pretty important in terms of understanding where the pandemic is.
00:11:13.980 So, wouldn't you imagine that the 70% who want to accept COVID and just get on with life, that's higher than 70% now, right?
00:11:22.200 Because it's only going to move in one direction.
00:11:25.680 So, I would say 75%.
00:11:27.200 What have I been telling you about the magic number 75?
00:11:31.760 Well, it's coincidentally, you know, if you take 75% of something, what's left over is the solidly stupid 25% of the public.
00:11:46.940 25% of the public just shouldn't count for anything.
00:11:50.840 Because they always get every question wrong.
00:11:53.160 The thing I don't know if it's the same 25%.
00:11:55.540 Maybe it's a different 25% for every question.
00:11:59.180 But if 75% of the public wants something that says, obviously, a good idea is this, how often do they get it?
00:12:10.680 And I think the answer is almost always.
00:12:13.420 I mean, maybe not on day one.
00:12:14.860 But with that, with a super majority of 75%, that's as close as you can get to 100% of the smart people.
00:12:25.660 Right?
00:12:26.440 Because you have the 25% of dense people that can't be reached on any topic no matter what.
00:12:32.640 So, if you can get the 75% of the public for anything, it doesn't matter what the question is.
00:12:38.040 If 75% are there, the government has to give it to you.
00:12:43.400 It just has to.
00:12:44.640 Because there's just too much pressure.
00:12:48.660 So, I think we're in good shape there.
00:12:50.460 Now, some have asked, what about Denmark that dropped its restrictions recently?
00:12:56.460 And is experiencing a huge surge in their stats.
00:13:02.280 A negative surge.
00:13:04.760 So, there's more infections and more deaths and everything.
00:13:08.040 So, did Denmark make a mistake?
00:13:11.240 The data suggests that as soon as they dropped their mandates, things went south.
00:13:18.760 Well, as Andreas Backhaus points out, there are other countries that didn't drop their mandates and had very similar curves.
00:13:26.860 So, you have to be careful who you compare them to.
00:13:29.920 That's the first problem.
00:13:31.440 So, the first problem is, we've still never figured out why some countries do what they do.
00:13:36.560 We just don't know why some country will go up and another country will go down at the same time while doing the same things.
00:13:45.480 Why can they do completely different things but get the same result?
00:13:49.060 We don't know any of that.
00:13:50.120 So, if you're comparing what Denmark had as an experience to other countries, that's first of all absurd, because we know that's not going to tell you what you think it is.
00:14:01.860 Secondly, as was pointed out by others, our statistics right now are a weird blend of the carryover from the Delta, the crossover from mostly Omicron.
00:14:18.200 So, now we've got this blended data that's not really telling us about the future or the past.
00:14:26.280 It's like a future past.
00:14:28.360 Like, somehow we average the future and the past.
00:14:31.460 And what I mean by that is the Omicron predicts fewer deaths in the future.
00:14:36.640 The Delta predicts more.
00:14:38.320 But they're sort of merged in the data at the moment.
00:14:40.360 Eventually, it will be pretty much a full Omicron data set.
00:14:45.320 But not yet.
00:14:46.640 So, at the moment, all of our data is useless.
00:14:49.900 Basically.
00:14:51.260 Because you don't quite know what's in the mix.
00:14:54.240 Is it the bad stuff or the good stuff, Omicron?
00:14:57.360 So, any comparison of Denmark to anything else is probably useless at this point.
00:15:03.720 There's not a big enough difference.
00:15:07.000 It's in Denmark to say that it has anything to do with the change of their plans.
00:15:13.860 Anyway, and then you've got the problem that Omicron is so weak relative to the past
00:15:20.020 that you have tons of admissions of people getting in the hospital who just coincidentally have it.
00:15:27.200 So, in the old days, with Delta, if you had Delta and you were hospitalized,
00:15:33.640 there was a really high chance that it's because of the Delta.
00:15:37.480 Right?
00:15:37.920 It might be comorbidities.
00:15:39.540 But it's the Delta that's really making the difference.
00:15:42.120 But today, you could be in the hospital for damn near anything
00:15:45.680 and still have a high chance of having Omicron that you didn't even know you had.
00:15:50.200 So, suddenly, it looks like the hospitals are getting filled with Omicron people,
00:15:54.800 but only by coincidence.
00:15:56.860 Not because of Omicron, but by coincidence, they also have some mild Omicron.
00:16:01.800 So, the caution here is that all of our data is going to be useless for a while.
00:16:07.960 And Denmark isn't the only place that's going to apply.
00:16:10.840 Right?
00:16:10.960 So, everything you see about data, whatever skepticism you had a month ago,
00:16:18.740 just triple that for about, I don't know, three weeks.
00:16:22.840 And then maybe the data will settle down into an Omicron-only,
00:16:27.580 more sane way to look at it kind of a world.
00:16:29.860 I don't know.
00:16:30.380 Maybe it won't.
00:16:31.480 But anyway, we don't have a history to look at
00:16:34.160 that makes our lines make sense anymore.
00:16:36.500 Whatever happened to the giant problem of illegal immigration on the southern border?
00:16:45.500 Does anybody know what happened?
00:16:48.040 Why did we stop talking about it?
00:16:51.080 Well, you're saying winter, but isn't winter the right time to go?
00:16:56.440 Am I wrong?
00:16:57.620 I thought summer was the wrong time to go, because it's too hot.
00:17:01.340 But isn't winter exactly when you want to go?
00:17:03.700 No.
00:17:06.500 So, did it just slow down because it's the coolest part of the best time to go,
00:17:14.120 and it'll be a little bit better in a month?
00:17:16.700 Or why are we not hearing about the caravans being formed?
00:17:22.980 So, if it's still going, then why aren't we reporting on it?
00:17:26.640 Isn't it still a problem?
00:17:28.200 Wouldn't there still be videos of huge masses of people crossing?
00:17:32.320 So, here's the question.
00:17:33.460 There's something going on, because, well, I don't see Fox reporting it.
00:17:40.880 I'm seeing here that Fox is reporting it.
00:17:43.760 But I haven't seen anybody report it lately.
00:17:46.760 And I don't know if it's just because other news is more interesting.
00:17:50.980 But it feels like, oh, here's my macro point here.
00:17:54.380 So, independent of whether there is or is not a major problem with immigration.
00:18:01.420 I assume there is.
00:18:03.120 But we're not hearing about it.
00:18:06.360 Isn't this exactly the kind of story, and I'll give you another example in a little bit,
00:18:11.240 where it's obvious that the media decides what's important?
00:18:15.040 And at the moment, the media, both the left and the right, so I see you're saying that Fox reports it every day.
00:18:23.880 But I read Fox every day, and I don't see it.
00:18:27.420 Not reported the way it used to be reported, in terms of, you know, a disaster.
00:18:32.200 It's more like it gets thrown into a conversation.
00:18:35.560 I think if Fox reports it today, it might be just like an add-on to another story, right?
00:18:40.920 You know, why are we defending Ukraine's border when we don't defend our own?
00:18:46.340 So, I would agree with you that Fox does sort of include it in a lot of conversations.
00:18:52.400 But I don't think it's a story.
00:18:54.240 Have they not done a package with a video lately?
00:18:57.020 I don't think so.
00:18:58.500 So, here's the thing.
00:19:00.220 I think you have to be careful what you worry about.
00:19:05.000 And maybe this is one of those things to add to your, how to reframe your own anxiety.
00:19:10.920 One of the things I remind myself is that I'm only worrying about things people told me to worry about,
00:19:17.860 which does not seem to correspond exactly to what's important.
00:19:22.500 Because there's somebody who wants you to worry about something,
00:19:25.580 and they have the influence to make it happen,
00:19:27.740 and you start worrying about this thing that somebody put in your head.
00:19:30.760 But it's not your biggest problem.
00:19:32.960 It's just the thing somebody told you to worry about.
00:19:36.720 So, when you, yeah, and fentanyl's weird like that, too.
00:19:39.660 Because every once in a while we'll talk about it, but then it'll just disappear,
00:19:43.460 as if it's not killing 50,000 to 100,000 people a year.
00:19:47.060 It's just weird.
00:19:48.680 So, just be hyper-aware that how, the degree to which you're being manipulated.
00:19:56.020 Because they just took things that people were on fire about,
00:19:59.640 and just decided that you're not on fire about it now.
00:20:03.340 You're going to be thinking about something else.
00:20:05.180 I have four words to describe the ongoing story about Bob Saget's cause of death.
00:20:18.920 Leave Bob Saget alone.
00:20:24.580 Next story.
00:20:25.460 How about that Super Bowl?
00:20:29.760 So, I watched enough of it to feel like an American.
00:20:34.100 And I swear, sometimes that's why I watch it.
00:20:37.180 I'm not a big sports guy, as you might know.
00:20:41.060 I like playing them.
00:20:42.220 I'm not a big spectator type.
00:20:44.100 I'm a big fan of participating.
00:20:47.920 But watching, well, it's hard for me to do.
00:20:51.920 So, here is my sort of impression of the whole event.
00:21:01.260 Ignoring the sporting part of it for a moment,
00:21:03.340 because that'll be talk to death.
00:21:06.760 One of the things that I'm reminded of is that
00:21:09.840 racism is not just a problem,
00:21:13.760 but it's also a business model,
00:21:16.340 which causes some weird things to happen.
00:21:19.280 And by a business model, I mean that there are individuals
00:21:22.400 who benefit from the racism topic.
00:21:27.240 So, if they can keep it going,
00:21:28.740 they've got a reason to be on TV,
00:21:30.620 a reason to sell books,
00:21:32.140 a reason to be, etc.
00:21:34.240 And so, what would happen to a problem
00:21:36.300 if it got solved,
00:21:38.180 and yet there were a whole bunch of people
00:21:39.740 who benefit by it not being solved?
00:21:43.700 You know, I was asking the same thing about,
00:21:45.460 you know, how many people in the CIA are Russia experts
00:21:49.380 versus other kinds of experts?
00:21:52.460 And it makes you wonder if you just have
00:21:54.580 too many experts of one kind,
00:21:57.000 even if you solve the problem
00:21:58.880 for which you had those experts,
00:22:01.380 don't they have to kind of tell you
00:22:03.560 the problem's still there?
00:22:05.360 Like, what if climate change got solved tomorrow?
00:22:09.300 You know, it's not, it won't be.
00:22:10.920 But what if it were?
00:22:11.600 What if climate change just got solved?
00:22:15.240 You know, somebody came up with a fusion reactor
00:22:17.220 that you could build in a year,
00:22:18.640 and it's totally safe.
00:22:20.180 Well, what would happen to all the scientists
00:22:22.120 whose entire careers depend on
00:22:24.600 scaring you about climate change?
00:22:27.820 Would they say, yay, we're done,
00:22:29.820 we're going to change fields now?
00:22:32.180 Some would.
00:22:33.620 Or would others just say, you know,
00:22:35.960 sure, we changed that problem the way it was,
00:22:38.720 but what about this new version of the problem?
00:22:41.600 What about that?
00:22:43.000 What about the thing you weren't thinking about?
00:22:46.800 Huh?
00:22:47.460 What about the different way
00:22:48.800 of looking at the same problem?
00:22:50.880 So you always have to say to yourself,
00:22:52.660 if there's a business model around a problem,
00:22:55.000 can you ever solve it?
00:22:56.400 Because there will always be somebody telling you
00:22:58.480 it didn't really get solved,
00:22:59.700 it just got transferred into a different form,
00:23:02.180 so now you have to worry about that new form.
00:23:04.100 And watching the Super Bowl reminded me
00:23:06.960 about, let's call it direct racism.
00:23:12.060 So I think there was a time in human history
00:23:16.260 where if you said, hey, my group of people are awesome,
00:23:20.920 and this other group of people,
00:23:22.140 there must be something wrong with them,
00:23:23.440 you at least, at least,
00:23:26.580 had some observational basis for it.
00:23:29.600 Meaning you may say, hey, look,
00:23:31.720 my city's doing great,
00:23:33.640 and this other bunch of people, you know,
00:23:36.600 have not developed technology or whatever,
00:23:38.720 they don't have much money,
00:23:39.980 so we must be the good ones,
00:23:41.640 and they must be the bad ones.
00:23:43.180 Now, as it turns out,
00:23:45.200 it wasn't because of their genetic makeup,
00:23:47.200 and that's something we know in 2022
00:23:49.900 that everybody is succeeding
00:23:52.340 in all kinds of fields,
00:23:54.480 and it's more about the individual.
00:23:57.280 So, the direct kind of racism is largely dead
00:24:02.560 because once you've got a black president,
00:24:05.360 and then the Super Bowl really rubbed it in.
00:24:08.620 The Super Bowl was a whole bunch of black millionaires
00:24:12.700 who were athletes
00:24:14.460 with a halftime show
00:24:17.100 that was primarily black millionaires.
00:24:20.760 And the biggest controversy around it
00:24:23.580 that wasn't sporting-related
00:24:24.860 was why don't we have enough black coaches
00:24:28.220 in our league that's 70% black players?
00:24:32.260 And pretty much everybody,
00:24:33.760 well, I won't say everybody,
00:24:34.660 but society largely looks at that question
00:24:37.960 and says, you know,
00:24:38.620 that's a pretty good question.
00:24:40.840 Right?
00:24:41.620 I mean, you do have your people
00:24:43.120 pushing back at it
00:24:44.200 because it's irrational.
00:24:46.420 It is irrational.
00:24:47.900 Because if we're not complaining
00:24:49.260 about the 70% of the players being black,
00:24:52.460 you really have to question the logic
00:24:54.720 of questioning any percentage.
00:24:57.960 Like, there are reasons,
00:24:59.540 but maybe those reasons are racism.
00:25:01.420 You don't know.
00:25:03.860 So, as I'm watching this,
00:25:06.780 the Super Bowl is really one of those things,
00:25:08.760 and then even if you looked
00:25:09.760 in the rich people box,
00:25:11.960 you know,
00:25:12.540 it would be a whole bunch of white people
00:25:13.700 up in the expensive seats,
00:25:16.100 but also,
00:25:17.800 almost all of those boxes
00:25:19.320 probably had, you know,
00:25:20.760 famous black athletes
00:25:22.760 and billionaires
00:25:23.480 and entrepreneurs
00:25:24.180 and whatever.
00:25:26.520 So,
00:25:27.540 and when America watches
00:25:29.400 the Super Bowl,
00:25:31.360 who is thinking racist stuff?
00:25:34.620 Like,
00:25:35.620 I mean,
00:25:35.980 I guess it's in the sense
00:25:37.220 that it's always in the air,
00:25:38.280 yes,
00:25:38.540 but when Americans
00:25:40.240 watch the Super Bowl,
00:25:42.580 it's just about America,
00:25:44.220 isn't it?
00:25:45.580 Does anybody have
00:25:46.340 any other feeling about it?
00:25:48.120 Like,
00:25:48.300 it just feels like
00:25:48.940 the most perfectly American thing,
00:25:52.540 and it is so wonderfully free,
00:25:55.960 I mean,
00:25:56.240 just spectacularly free,
00:25:58.500 of what I would call
00:25:59.480 historical classic racism,
00:26:02.500 where you just say,
00:26:03.620 the people who look like that
00:26:04.600 are bad,
00:26:05.520 and the people who look like me
00:26:06.440 are good.
00:26:06.800 Like,
00:26:07.060 that part's just gone,
00:26:08.680 because there are so many
00:26:09.440 individuals who have excelled
00:26:11.280 from every category of life.
00:26:14.160 And even more directly,
00:26:15.820 the LGBTQ community
00:26:17.740 is,
00:26:19.040 you know,
00:26:19.460 just like a rocket,
00:26:21.080 just doing great.
00:26:22.220 So,
00:26:22.500 as long as there are
00:26:23.160 lots of individuals
00:26:24.160 who are excelling,
00:26:25.660 that old kind of racism
00:26:27.000 went away,
00:26:27.840 but not the business model.
00:26:30.180 So,
00:26:30.620 you still needed some racism,
00:26:32.540 right?
00:26:33.320 Even though the direct stuff
00:26:34.880 seems to have gone away.
00:26:35.860 That's where the,
00:26:37.220 you know,
00:26:37.600 the,
00:26:38.440 where you get the stuff
00:26:40.740 like systemic racism,
00:26:42.440 et cetera.
00:26:43.180 But the trouble
00:26:43.940 with systemic racism is,
00:26:46.320 it's really more about
00:26:48.460 class,
00:26:49.200 isn't it?
00:26:50.160 That rich people do well,
00:26:51.900 and if you're not
00:26:53.440 already rich,
00:26:54.280 you've got quite a barrier
00:26:55.440 to break through
00:26:56.700 to become rich.
00:26:57.780 rich.
00:26:58.620 So,
00:26:59.440 so it seems to me
00:27:01.640 that the whole racism thing
00:27:03.560 has become something
00:27:05.540 of an absurdity.
00:27:08.700 And,
00:27:09.380 the absurdity is
00:27:11.120 that we're not treating
00:27:12.740 all poor people alike
00:27:14.300 when we just watched
00:27:15.880 the most,
00:27:16.400 the most revered
00:27:18.400 American tradition,
00:27:19.940 lately anyway,
00:27:21.280 the Super Bowl,
00:27:22.880 where it really is
00:27:24.580 an enormous celebration
00:27:26.320 of black achievement.
00:27:28.340 I mean,
00:27:28.800 it's really,
00:27:29.780 really impressive
00:27:30.460 if you look at the individuals
00:27:32.300 and the level of talent
00:27:33.640 that was involved there
00:27:34.540 in,
00:27:35.320 in all kinds of
00:27:36.020 different fields.
00:27:37.600 So,
00:27:39.400 I feel like
00:27:40.840 we're just in this
00:27:41.680 weird situation,
00:27:42.680 and I guess it all
00:27:43.380 came together
00:27:43.980 when the only person
00:27:45.760 who kneeled,
00:27:47.140 or is it knelt?
00:27:48.360 The only person
00:27:50.680 who knelt
00:27:51.360 at the Super Bowl
00:27:53.320 was,
00:27:54.280 did you watch it?
00:27:55.600 The only person
00:27:56.660 who got on one knee
00:27:57.700 to protest racism
00:27:59.660 in the United States
00:28:00.600 was
00:28:01.160 the white rapper
00:28:03.580 in a black business,
00:28:07.160 Eminem.
00:28:08.740 The fact that he was
00:28:10.080 the only one
00:28:10.760 was just perfect,
00:28:12.360 because that,
00:28:13.120 that,
00:28:13.400 that capped
00:28:14.380 the absurdity
00:28:15.400 of the whole thing.
00:28:17.060 Now,
00:28:17.320 do you think
00:28:17.700 that the police
00:28:19.520 brutality
00:28:20.100 against black motorists
00:28:22.700 or black suspects
00:28:24.240 were stopped
00:28:24.940 by the police?
00:28:26.080 Do you think
00:28:26.580 that ended
00:28:27.160 and Kaepernick
00:28:27.960 got what he wanted?
00:28:29.440 Or are we being
00:28:30.880 clearly signaled
00:28:32.480 that that was
00:28:33.480 never real
00:28:34.120 and it was just
00:28:34.620 a media invention
00:28:35.460 to be anti-Trump?
00:28:37.240 I mean,
00:28:37.480 that was just
00:28:37.900 sort of anti-Republican,
00:28:39.200 anti-Trump thing,
00:28:40.160 right?
00:28:40.700 So,
00:28:41.080 as soon as Biden's
00:28:41.980 in charge
00:28:42.460 and the Democrats
00:28:43.220 own the Congress,
00:28:45.120 well,
00:28:45.400 suddenly the problem
00:28:46.060 went away
00:28:46.620 and the only one
00:28:47.900 who didn't get
00:28:48.360 the memo
00:28:48.720 was the white guy,
00:28:50.620 right?
00:28:50.900 The white guy
00:28:51.460 didn't get the memo.
00:28:52.820 So Eminem's like,
00:28:53.800 oh,
00:28:54.320 I guess I'm still
00:28:55.440 two years ago.
00:28:58.040 So,
00:28:58.700 I don't think
00:29:00.400 that we,
00:29:01.000 I don't think
00:29:02.300 that we're making
00:29:02.860 a big enough deal
00:29:03.800 about how far
00:29:04.680 this country
00:29:05.200 has gone
00:29:05.660 and this is one
00:29:07.180 of the things
00:29:07.480 you have to do
00:29:07.920 every once in a while.
00:29:08.540 It's easy to,
00:29:09.520 you know,
00:29:09.880 complain about
00:29:10.560 what's not right yet
00:29:12.320 because that helps
00:29:13.520 you work on it,
00:29:14.240 you know?
00:29:14.820 It's good to complain.
00:29:15.700 Because it tells you
00:29:17.460 what to work on.
00:29:18.700 But every now and then
00:29:19.540 you just have to pause
00:29:20.480 and say,
00:29:21.600 damn,
00:29:22.760 things have gotten
00:29:23.880 really good
00:29:24.580 relative
00:29:25.460 to where they have been
00:29:27.300 in the past.
00:29:29.180 But still work to do,
00:29:31.100 I guess.
00:29:32.500 All right.
00:29:32.800 here's a reframe
00:29:40.120 for racism.
00:29:45.500 In order to be racist,
00:29:47.860 you have to
00:29:48.600 irrationally take credit
00:29:49.920 for the accomplishments
00:29:50.820 of strangers,
00:29:51.580 which doesn't make
00:29:53.960 much sense.
00:29:55.120 And I use this example.
00:29:57.480 So Thomas Edison
00:29:58.640 and, you know,
00:29:59.840 his company
00:30:00.480 invented the light bulb,
00:30:02.760 the modern light bulb.
00:30:04.240 And he was white
00:30:05.320 and I'm white,
00:30:07.540 so I get some
00:30:08.860 of the credit, right?
00:30:10.940 How does that work?
00:30:13.120 How do I get credit
00:30:14.520 for just having
00:30:16.140 a coincidental,
00:30:17.560 similar pigmentation?
00:30:19.820 Like,
00:30:20.220 well,
00:30:20.740 I didn't do anything.
00:30:22.040 I wasn't even bored.
00:30:23.180 So how in the world
00:30:26.180 do I get some credit
00:30:27.860 because white people
00:30:28.960 invented a lot of stuff?
00:30:30.680 It doesn't really
00:30:31.220 work that way.
00:30:32.520 It just doesn't
00:30:33.020 work that way.
00:30:34.260 So I think
00:30:36.280 it's a useful reframe
00:30:37.560 that if you're finding,
00:30:40.460 and I guess
00:30:41.040 this is where it starts,
00:30:42.460 people say they find
00:30:43.500 pride in their race.
00:30:46.260 I feel like
00:30:47.080 that should be discouraged.
00:30:50.760 I'll bet that's offensive
00:30:51.940 to some of you,
00:30:52.900 isn't it?
00:30:53.780 If I say it again,
00:30:54.900 let's see if this
00:30:55.400 sounds offensive.
00:30:56.180 I don't mean it
00:30:56.660 to be offensive.
00:30:57.880 But you should never
00:30:59.540 take pride in your race.
00:31:02.340 That's irrational.
00:31:04.380 You should take pride
00:31:05.500 in perhaps what you did.
00:31:07.720 I think you could
00:31:08.800 arguably take pride
00:31:10.280 in what a child
00:31:12.520 of yours accomplished.
00:31:13.960 I would extend it
00:31:16.620 to that because you
00:31:17.360 have a lot to do
00:31:18.020 with how the child
00:31:18.680 turns out.
00:31:19.160 But how would you
00:31:22.000 be proud of anything
00:31:23.000 else?
00:31:24.120 Like, it doesn't
00:31:24.780 really make sense
00:31:25.740 to be proud of anything
00:31:26.800 except what you do
00:31:27.840 or, as I said,
00:31:29.160 maybe a family member
00:31:30.360 that you've helped
00:31:30.920 in some way.
00:31:32.920 Right?
00:31:33.640 So every time
00:31:36.300 somebody says
00:31:36.960 they're proud
00:31:37.760 to be black
00:31:38.700 or proud
00:31:40.200 to be white,
00:31:40.960 it just sounds racist
00:31:41.980 as fuck to me.
00:31:44.040 It doesn't matter
00:31:44.820 who says it.
00:31:45.540 The moment you say
00:31:47.240 you're proud of your race,
00:31:48.880 like, I'm not even sure
00:31:50.060 I want to hang out
00:31:50.940 with you anymore.
00:31:52.700 I don't care
00:31:53.200 what your race is.
00:31:54.180 It's like,
00:31:54.580 if you're proud of that,
00:31:55.620 you're proud of other
00:31:56.640 people's accomplishments.
00:31:58.260 I'm not comfortable
00:31:59.200 with that.
00:32:00.460 How about,
00:32:01.000 be proud of your own
00:32:01.940 stuff for a change.
00:32:05.240 So there's a story
00:32:06.260 about the Biden
00:32:08.120 administration,
00:32:09.100 officials at the
00:32:11.040 U.S. Cybersecurity
00:32:12.080 and Infrastructure Agency,
00:32:13.440 you know,
00:32:14.440 the CISA,
00:32:16.100 are urging a judge
00:32:17.880 to not show us
00:32:20.680 the Dominion Voting
00:32:21.660 Systems audit,
00:32:23.920 I guess.
00:32:24.900 So there's some kind
00:32:25.580 of audit in Georgia
00:32:26.460 of the Dominion Voting
00:32:27.480 Systems,
00:32:28.400 and the Biden
00:32:29.140 administration
00:32:29.660 doesn't want
00:32:30.280 that audit released.
00:32:32.260 Now,
00:32:33.160 to be clear,
00:32:34.820 the audit
00:32:35.860 does not allege,
00:32:36.940 as far as we know,
00:32:38.660 any fraud.
00:32:41.360 Because I think
00:32:42.240 people are taking
00:32:43.020 the story wrong.
00:32:44.480 I think people
00:32:45.060 are taking the story
00:32:45.880 as they found
00:32:46.660 some fraud,
00:32:47.860 and they're trying
00:32:48.780 to hide it.
00:32:49.480 But that is not
00:32:50.240 the story.
00:32:51.200 The story is that
00:32:52.240 allegedly,
00:32:53.600 and it's still
00:32:54.220 allegedly,
00:32:55.220 there were some
00:32:56.020 security holes.
00:32:58.220 Now,
00:32:58.520 security holes
00:32:59.440 means that there
00:33:00.700 was an opportunity,
00:33:02.780 perhaps,
00:33:04.140 for something to
00:33:04.940 happen,
00:33:05.280 not that something
00:33:05.900 happened.
00:33:07.140 So,
00:33:07.840 does it make sense
00:33:09.200 for the Biden
00:33:09.940 administration
00:33:10.380 to block
00:33:12.160 that,
00:33:13.360 presumably because
00:33:14.700 they say
00:33:16.500 it would be
00:33:17.140 bad for
00:33:18.060 cyber security
00:33:19.000 or election
00:33:20.340 security?
00:33:22.060 Right?
00:33:22.580 Do you think
00:33:23.180 that's a good
00:33:23.620 enough reason
00:33:24.160 that whatever
00:33:25.900 came out of this
00:33:26.700 would be bad
00:33:27.320 for election
00:33:27.760 security?
00:33:28.480 Because you
00:33:28.940 could make
00:33:29.280 the argument
00:33:29.800 that if the
00:33:33.320 public knew
00:33:34.060 how the audit
00:33:34.860 was done
00:33:35.380 and what it
00:33:35.840 found,
00:33:36.840 that that would
00:33:37.440 teach hackers
00:33:38.120 how to hack
00:33:38.680 the system?
00:33:40.300 Is that
00:33:40.940 true?
00:33:42.400 Do you think
00:33:43.020 that would be
00:33:43.440 the case,
00:33:43.980 that it would
00:33:44.300 teach people
00:33:44.940 how to hack
00:33:45.440 the system?
00:33:47.380 And if we
00:33:48.340 have a system
00:33:48.920 that can be
00:33:49.580 hacked,
00:33:52.280 is the
00:33:52.980 problem that
00:33:53.740 the hack...
00:33:55.320 If it's even
00:33:57.220 true that this
00:33:58.340 information could
00:33:59.540 be harmful,
00:34:00.520 you have to
00:34:01.120 take those
00:34:01.600 systems offline
00:34:02.480 right away.
00:34:04.020 Am I right?
00:34:05.760 You would
00:34:06.400 have to,
00:34:06.940 if you
00:34:07.640 believed
00:34:08.180 that there
00:34:08.920 was an
00:34:09.240 audit that
00:34:09.880 legitimately
00:34:10.460 you see
00:34:10.920 if you
00:34:11.360 believed it.
00:34:12.220 And I
00:34:12.560 would say
00:34:12.900 that I'm
00:34:13.360 well short
00:34:13.920 of believing
00:34:14.320 this is
00:34:14.720 true,
00:34:14.940 by the way.
00:34:15.780 So I
00:34:16.320 wouldn't take
00:34:16.840 anything about
00:34:17.500 this story
00:34:17.980 as verified
00:34:19.120 yet.
00:34:20.300 But if it
00:34:21.140 were true
00:34:21.460 that there
00:34:21.800 were security
00:34:22.420 flaws that
00:34:23.000 would allow
00:34:23.600 somebody to
00:34:24.240 change an
00:34:24.720 election,
00:34:25.700 the moment
00:34:26.360 you know
00:34:26.760 that's true,
00:34:28.260 your strategy
00:34:29.020 is not keep
00:34:29.860 it from the
00:34:30.340 public.
00:34:32.440 Right?
00:34:33.960 That's not
00:34:34.640 the strategy.
00:34:35.240 the strategy
00:34:37.600 should be
00:34:38.140 take them
00:34:38.560 offline
00:34:38.900 immediately
00:34:39.500 until you
00:34:40.480 can fix
00:34:40.960 them.
00:34:43.760 All right.
00:34:46.020 Let's talk
00:34:46.840 about Ukraine.
00:34:49.120 Apparently
00:34:49.760 China is not
00:34:50.700 evacuating their
00:34:51.500 embassies.
00:34:52.840 So what does
00:34:53.380 China know
00:34:54.080 that the
00:34:55.480 other people
00:34:56.020 don't know?
00:34:56.860 Well,
00:34:57.380 I'm wondering
00:34:58.360 if the
00:34:59.320 United States
00:35:00.120 evacuating its
00:35:01.140 embassies
00:35:01.740 was just
00:35:03.100 a signaling
00:35:03.940 move.
00:35:04.840 What do
00:35:05.060 you think?
00:35:05.920 I think
00:35:06.520 that we
00:35:06.800 were just
00:35:07.120 calling Putin's
00:35:08.060 bluff by
00:35:09.340 saying,
00:35:10.040 if you're
00:35:10.300 going to
00:35:10.480 attack the
00:35:10.920 country,
00:35:12.060 we're ready
00:35:12.860 and we're
00:35:13.960 evacuating our
00:35:14.980 embassies or
00:35:15.900 pulling down
00:35:16.740 staff because
00:35:18.620 not only are
00:35:19.880 we calling
00:35:20.340 your bluff,
00:35:20.920 but we're
00:35:21.280 preparing for
00:35:21.880 the outcome.
00:35:23.420 So I've
00:35:24.220 got a feeling
00:35:24.640 that China
00:35:25.160 does not
00:35:25.740 need to
00:35:26.340 call anybody's
00:35:27.200 bluff.
00:35:27.560 So don't
00:35:29.520 you think
00:35:29.860 China is
00:35:30.460 signaling that
00:35:31.140 they know
00:35:31.560 that there's
00:35:32.040 no imminent
00:35:32.580 attack?
00:35:34.580 Or is
00:35:35.380 China in
00:35:36.820 league with
00:35:38.400 Russia and
00:35:40.300 they're trying
00:35:40.700 to help
00:35:41.180 Russia mount
00:35:43.060 a sneak
00:35:43.560 attack by
00:35:45.080 acting like
00:35:45.740 they don't
00:35:46.120 know, oh,
00:35:46.800 we don't
00:35:47.040 think there's
00:35:47.420 any attack,
00:35:48.260 and then
00:35:48.680 Russia attacks
00:35:49.560 and you say,
00:35:50.700 darn, even
00:35:51.580 China was
00:35:52.600 surprised.
00:35:54.820 I don't
00:35:55.540 feel like
00:35:56.000 China would
00:35:56.500 be working
00:35:57.420 with them
00:35:58.060 on a
00:35:59.720 trick.
00:36:01.820 I feel
00:36:02.500 like China
00:36:02.980 just knows
00:36:03.720 that there's
00:36:04.640 not going
00:36:04.980 to be an
00:36:05.300 attack.
00:36:07.520 So that's
00:36:08.360 still my
00:36:09.200 prediction,
00:36:10.400 is that there
00:36:10.740 won't be an
00:36:11.140 attack.
00:36:11.620 Or at the
00:36:12.200 very least,
00:36:13.160 if there's
00:36:13.780 an attack,
00:36:14.300 it would not
00:36:14.760 involve wherever
00:36:15.540 they have
00:36:15.940 their embassies.
00:36:17.440 So they
00:36:18.060 might know
00:36:18.460 it won't
00:36:18.920 involve
00:36:19.640 just that
00:36:21.440 location.
00:36:24.100 It seems
00:36:24.820 to me that
00:36:25.420 Putin is
00:36:26.380 negotiating so
00:36:27.400 well by
00:36:28.280 threatening
00:36:28.720 with military
00:36:29.520 action that
00:36:30.660 he's got
00:36:31.040 Ukraine kind
00:36:31.800 of negotiating
00:36:32.460 with itself.
00:36:34.700 Do you know
00:36:35.280 what I mean?
00:36:36.400 Have you not
00:36:37.260 heard people
00:36:38.380 say, well,
00:36:38.960 why don't we
00:36:39.540 give Russia
00:36:40.620 this?
00:36:41.160 Or, you
00:36:41.860 know, we
00:36:42.220 could say we
00:36:44.540 promised not
00:36:45.280 to join
00:36:45.860 NATO?
00:36:46.900 Basically, a
00:36:48.240 lot of people
00:36:48.640 are floating
00:36:49.280 ideas for
00:36:51.320 how Ukraine
00:36:52.120 or NATO
00:36:53.120 could give
00:36:55.040 up something.
00:36:56.940 But you
00:36:57.500 don't really
00:36:57.860 see the
00:36:58.220 same thing
00:36:58.600 happen on
00:36:59.020 Putin's
00:36:59.400 side.
00:37:00.640 Right?
00:37:00.840 I mean, we
00:37:01.260 float ideas,
00:37:02.020 but there's
00:37:02.280 nobody in
00:37:02.700 Russia floating
00:37:03.320 an idea
00:37:03.860 about how
00:37:04.940 Putin should
00:37:05.420 change his
00:37:05.880 mind.
00:37:06.160 So I feel
00:37:08.440 like Putin
00:37:08.860 has his
00:37:11.220 adversaries
00:37:11.800 negotiating with
00:37:12.740 themselves,
00:37:13.420 which is a
00:37:14.260 sign that
00:37:14.760 somebody doesn't
00:37:15.800 know what
00:37:16.020 they're doing,
00:37:16.740 meaning that
00:37:17.240 people negotiating
00:37:18.200 with themselves
00:37:18.900 are sort of
00:37:21.300 lost and
00:37:21.840 they're just
00:37:22.160 flailing.
00:37:24.160 But then I
00:37:24.920 heard this
00:37:25.280 interesting factoid
00:37:26.500 that I wondered
00:37:27.280 how important
00:37:27.820 it is.
00:37:28.440 It sounds like
00:37:29.000 it's important
00:37:29.500 that Ukraine
00:37:31.060 has built into
00:37:31.900 its constitution
00:37:32.860 that it will
00:37:34.420 try to get
00:37:35.020 into NATO.
00:37:37.040 To which I
00:37:37.860 said, I
00:37:39.040 don't think
00:37:39.440 Ukraine knows
00:37:40.080 what a
00:37:40.360 constitution is.
00:37:42.340 A constitution
00:37:42.980 isn't a
00:37:43.640 business plan.
00:37:46.280 That's a
00:37:46.880 business plan.
00:37:48.200 Or a
00:37:49.020 strategic plan
00:37:49.840 maybe.
00:37:51.060 But a
00:37:52.080 strategic plan
00:37:52.980 might be
00:37:53.500 we have
00:37:55.160 every intention
00:37:55.840 of getting
00:37:56.260 into NATO.
00:37:57.380 That would
00:37:57.880 be a good
00:37:58.200 plan.
00:37:59.420 That's not
00:37:59.920 something you
00:38:00.340 put in your
00:38:00.760 constitution.
00:38:02.080 Because if you
00:38:02.660 put it in your
00:38:03.180 constitution,
00:38:04.460 then if the
00:38:05.120 situation changes,
00:38:06.340 you can't
00:38:06.740 change your
00:38:07.160 mind.
00:38:14.000 That's not
00:38:14.680 really
00:38:14.980 Chen,
00:38:15.580 is it?
00:38:17.280 I can't
00:38:18.000 tell if
00:38:18.220 that's
00:38:18.400 somebody
00:38:18.580 impersonating
00:38:19.240 Chen or
00:38:19.800 actually
00:38:20.240 Chen.
00:38:23.740 Am I
00:38:27.580 wrong that
00:38:28.080 it was a
00:38:28.540 gigantic
00:38:28.920 mistake to
00:38:29.820 put the
00:38:32.700 NATO thing
00:38:33.340 in their
00:38:33.700 constitution,
00:38:34.560 which they
00:38:35.020 can't easily
00:38:35.560 change?
00:38:37.920 It's like a
00:38:38.740 gigantic mistake,
00:38:39.620 right?
00:38:40.280 I feel like
00:38:41.140 this is like
00:38:41.680 a Dilbert
00:38:43.020 problem on a
00:38:44.560 global scale.
00:38:45.360 that they
00:38:47.120 confused the
00:38:48.200 constitution of
00:38:48.980 the country
00:38:49.340 with a business
00:38:50.000 plan, and
00:38:51.280 they put the
00:38:51.700 wrong thing
00:38:52.200 in it, and
00:38:53.200 that now they
00:38:53.740 have a
00:38:54.060 paperwork problem
00:38:54.940 that's going to
00:38:55.860 cause them to
00:38:56.420 lose their
00:38:56.800 country for
00:38:58.200 paperwork.
00:38:58.600 work.
00:39:00.800 I think that's
00:39:03.020 happening.
00:39:04.120 Do you think
00:39:04.840 that Russia
00:39:05.300 would be
00:39:05.760 treating
00:39:06.480 Ukraine the
00:39:07.140 same if
00:39:07.740 their
00:39:07.940 constitution
00:39:08.460 didn't say
00:39:09.260 we have to
00:39:09.760 be in
00:39:10.020 NATO?
00:39:11.940 Because I
00:39:12.520 feel like
00:39:12.860 Russia could
00:39:13.420 count on
00:39:13.900 them maybe
00:39:14.680 changing their
00:39:15.720 mind or not
00:39:16.400 joining NATO
00:39:17.160 if they didn't
00:39:18.420 have it right in
00:39:18.980 the constitution
00:39:19.640 that they had
00:39:20.300 to, or at
00:39:21.720 least had to
00:39:22.220 try.
00:39:22.520 And I
00:39:25.680 think it's
00:39:26.080 more and more
00:39:26.540 clear, especially
00:39:29.280 since I got a
00:39:29.920 little background
00:39:30.380 on this whole
00:39:31.120 Putin versus
00:39:32.140 Hillary Clinton
00:39:33.120 thing.
00:39:34.100 So I guess
00:39:34.440 Hillary Clinton,
00:39:35.460 Putin blamed
00:39:36.180 Hillary Clinton
00:39:36.720 for activating
00:39:37.580 the protests
00:39:39.480 against Putin
00:39:40.480 in 2011, I
00:39:42.960 think.
00:39:44.240 And then in
00:39:44.860 2016, Putin
00:39:45.980 may or may not
00:39:47.040 have returned
00:39:47.940 the favor by
00:39:48.780 trying to
00:39:49.680 hack something
00:39:50.920 related to
00:39:52.640 the election.
00:39:53.640 So you got
00:39:54.320 that background
00:39:55.040 going on, and
00:39:57.860 you wonder how
00:39:58.400 important that
00:39:58.980 is.
00:40:00.000 But I
00:40:00.980 cannot for the
00:40:01.600 life of me
00:40:02.140 figure out how
00:40:03.080 the United
00:40:03.540 States is worse
00:40:04.400 off if Russia
00:40:05.560 owns Ukraine.
00:40:08.080 I'm not saying
00:40:08.980 we should abandon
00:40:09.720 them, I'm not
00:40:10.420 saying we should
00:40:11.440 do something
00:40:11.900 different.
00:40:13.260 I'm just
00:40:14.020 confused as
00:40:16.000 to why we're
00:40:16.540 not better off
00:40:17.360 instead of
00:40:18.360 worse.
00:40:19.140 Because let me
00:40:20.040 ask you this,
00:40:20.460 how many
00:40:20.820 problems has
00:40:21.540 Ukraine caused
00:40:22.360 to the United
00:40:22.800 States in the
00:40:23.520 last five
00:40:24.040 years?
00:40:26.140 Am I
00:40:26.820 right?
00:40:27.920 Look at the
00:40:28.760 number of
00:40:29.260 problems Ukraine
00:40:30.020 has caused
00:40:30.520 to the United
00:40:30.900 States.
00:40:31.800 Now how many
00:40:32.300 of those
00:40:32.580 problems would
00:40:33.140 we have had
00:40:33.740 if Ukraine
00:40:35.000 and Russia
00:40:36.280 were basically
00:40:36.900 the same
00:40:37.360 country?
00:40:39.460 None?
00:40:41.340 None, right?
00:40:42.720 So at the
00:40:43.360 moment, Ukraine
00:40:44.980 looks like this
00:40:45.640 big expensive
00:40:46.460 problem that
00:40:47.220 we're pumping
00:40:47.680 money into,
00:40:48.740 and because of
00:40:49.560 corruption,
00:40:50.900 it's ruining
00:40:51.920 our politics
00:40:52.920 because we've
00:40:53.740 got this
00:40:54.040 Hunter Biden
00:40:55.360 connection to
00:40:56.180 it.
00:40:57.120 It's ruining
00:40:57.940 our NATO
00:40:59.120 alliance.
00:41:00.260 I mean, at
00:41:00.740 the moment it's
00:41:01.240 getting stronger,
00:41:02.020 but I think
00:41:02.320 that's temporary.
00:41:04.420 I feel like
00:41:05.400 Ukraine is
00:41:06.160 nothing but
00:41:06.620 trouble.
00:41:07.520 And by the
00:41:07.940 way, we
00:41:08.320 caused that
00:41:08.800 trouble ourselves
00:41:09.680 by trying to
00:41:11.200 build a base
00:41:12.000 on Russia's
00:41:12.780 doorstep.
00:41:13.320 Like, why
00:41:14.980 did we think
00:41:15.520 we were going
00:41:16.180 to get away
00:41:16.560 with that?
00:41:17.860 It wouldn't
00:41:18.480 have worked
00:41:18.760 the other
00:41:19.120 way.
00:41:19.700 I mean, they
00:41:20.020 couldn't have
00:41:20.400 built a base
00:41:21.140 on our
00:41:21.420 doorstep.
00:41:22.840 So, like, why
00:41:24.580 are we fighting
00:41:25.340 the idea that
00:41:26.480 the superpowers
00:41:27.380 should have a
00:41:28.380 sphere of
00:41:29.020 influence around
00:41:29.760 them when we
00:41:31.080 have one and
00:41:31.820 we think it
00:41:32.280 probably works
00:41:32.880 pretty well?
00:41:34.680 And, you
00:41:37.020 know, so I
00:41:38.200 guess there are
00:41:38.720 a lot of
00:41:39.080 questions on this
00:41:39.760 Ukraine thing
00:41:40.380 that we're not
00:41:40.860 thinking about
00:41:41.400 too deeply.
00:41:44.920 Do you know
00:41:45.580 what CNN
00:41:46.260 stands for?
00:41:48.320 CNN stands
00:41:49.660 for?
00:41:50.880 Certainly not
00:41:51.820 news.
00:41:53.360 I don't know
00:41:53.760 if anybody's
00:41:54.260 used that one
00:41:54.720 before.
00:42:01.320 Okay.
00:42:03.000 So,
00:42:03.680 so Fox
00:42:05.820 News, of course,
00:42:06.480 has been
00:42:06.740 reporting on
00:42:07.320 the Durham's
00:42:08.480 latest filing.
00:42:09.480 and the
00:42:12.020 idea that
00:42:12.780 the Clinton
00:42:14.060 campaign was
00:42:16.300 paying somebody
00:42:17.220 to spy on
00:42:18.240 Trump and
00:42:18.760 get into his
00:42:19.480 computer stuff.
00:42:21.160 And then I
00:42:22.380 see this.
00:42:24.840 John Brennan
00:42:25.700 had briefed
00:42:26.740 Obama at
00:42:28.680 one point on
00:42:29.500 Clinton's
00:42:30.160 purported
00:42:30.720 proposal from
00:42:32.580 one of her
00:42:33.220 foreign policy
00:42:34.060 advisers to
00:42:35.380 vilify Donald
00:42:36.320 Trump by
00:42:36.880 stirring up a
00:42:37.620 scandal claiming
00:42:38.940 interference by
00:42:39.880 the Russian
00:42:40.320 security service.
00:42:42.280 So apparently
00:42:42.780 this is in
00:42:43.700 evidence
00:42:44.220 sufficiently so
00:42:46.580 that it's part
00:42:47.000 of the Durham
00:42:47.420 report,
00:42:48.060 which would
00:42:49.360 say that
00:42:49.920 Brennan and
00:42:50.960 Obama knew
00:42:52.220 for sure
00:42:52.820 that Hillary
00:42:53.860 was doing a
00:42:54.560 dirty trick
00:42:55.160 about this
00:42:55.840 Russian
00:42:56.280 connection,
00:42:57.740 and that they
00:42:59.360 either tacitly
00:43:00.740 approved it
00:43:02.020 or at
00:43:04.540 least ignored
00:43:05.120 it,
00:43:07.140 shouldn't they
00:43:09.860 all be in
00:43:10.280 jail?
00:43:11.860 Shouldn't
00:43:12.300 John Brennan
00:43:13.480 and ex-
00:43:15.020 President Obama
00:43:15.740 be in jail
00:43:16.280 for that?
00:43:18.360 How is that
00:43:19.280 not a huge
00:43:20.200 crime?
00:43:20.520 I'm not
00:43:26.960 sure what
00:43:27.300 crime it
00:43:27.700 would be
00:43:28.120 actually,
00:43:29.260 but shouldn't
00:43:30.160 it be a
00:43:30.580 crime for
00:43:31.140 the President
00:43:31.600 of the United
00:43:32.020 States and
00:43:32.620 the head of
00:43:33.000 the CIA to
00:43:35.020 be aware of
00:43:36.400 a campaign
00:43:37.200 trying to
00:43:38.860 overthrow an
00:43:39.500 election with
00:43:40.200 a fake,
00:43:41.740 a story that
00:43:42.840 would potentially
00:43:44.240 plunge America
00:43:45.280 into war?
00:43:46.100 If they were
00:43:48.480 aware that
00:43:49.600 she was doing
00:43:50.200 this, they
00:43:50.680 should have
00:43:50.980 shut her down
00:43:51.560 immediately, and
00:43:52.920 if they didn't,
00:43:53.540 they were part
00:43:54.020 of it.
00:43:54.980 You know, I
00:43:55.420 actually googled
00:43:56.320 RICO yesterday
00:43:57.900 because I wasn't
00:43:59.440 quite sure what
00:44:00.360 it takes to
00:44:01.280 make something a
00:44:02.080 RICO situation,
00:44:03.460 but what we're
00:44:04.380 seeing here is
00:44:05.020 very clearly,
00:44:06.020 now it's being
00:44:07.180 laid out,
00:44:08.360 a conspiracy
00:44:10.400 that obviously
00:44:11.700 included Obama,
00:44:13.640 the CIA.
00:44:15.160 I'm sure we
00:44:16.080 could connect
00:44:16.700 it to the
00:44:17.300 fake news,
00:44:18.460 right?
00:44:19.380 So you had
00:44:19.720 the fake news
00:44:20.580 people, CIA,
00:44:21.860 and Obama,
00:44:23.420 and the
00:44:24.580 Clinton campaign
00:44:25.300 all conspiring
00:44:26.520 to do dirty
00:44:29.020 tricks that
00:44:30.600 not only would
00:44:31.400 change the
00:44:31.860 nature of the
00:44:32.560 who got elected
00:44:33.360 potentially,
00:44:34.620 you know,
00:44:35.020 Trump got elected
00:44:35.700 anyway, but
00:44:37.020 could have
00:44:37.500 actually caused
00:44:38.120 a nuclear war.
00:44:41.260 So, you know,
00:44:42.120 creating trouble
00:44:42.940 with Russia
00:44:43.540 Russia is
00:44:45.560 actually risking
00:44:47.240 nuclear war in
00:44:48.960 order to win
00:44:49.460 an election.
00:44:50.980 Now, I don't
00:44:52.680 think there's
00:44:53.040 anything I said
00:44:53.660 that's necessarily
00:44:54.700 on the books as
00:44:55.780 illegal, is it?
00:44:58.340 I mean, people
00:44:59.520 can talk to each
00:45:00.360 other and say
00:45:00.940 bad things, and
00:45:01.980 people can lie,
00:45:03.760 and people can
00:45:04.320 start rumors, and
00:45:05.480 I don't think
00:45:06.140 that's illegal,
00:45:06.880 but at some
00:45:09.680 point, there's
00:45:10.420 got to be
00:45:10.880 something illegal
00:45:11.680 about this,
00:45:13.080 right?
00:45:14.900 There's got to
00:45:15.360 be something
00:45:15.900 illegal about it
00:45:17.100 somewhere.
00:45:18.260 I feel like
00:45:19.180 there are so
00:45:20.000 many laws that
00:45:21.760 you could make
00:45:22.300 anything illegal
00:45:23.100 if you tried,
00:45:23.900 especially something
00:45:24.700 complicated like
00:45:25.600 this.
00:45:26.160 You're telling me
00:45:26.700 there's nothing
00:45:27.240 illegal in this
00:45:28.060 whole situation?
00:45:29.700 No lawyer could
00:45:30.880 come up with a
00:45:31.520 law that directly
00:45:33.160 or indirectly seems
00:45:34.220 applicable here?
00:45:34.960 And the weird
00:45:38.040 thing is, again,
00:45:38.800 this won't be
00:45:39.500 reported.
00:45:41.940 The whole thing,
00:45:43.160 the entire story
00:45:44.260 here won't even
00:45:44.840 be reported by
00:45:45.840 the mainstream
00:45:46.620 press.
00:45:49.580 All right.
00:45:53.140 All right.
00:45:54.200 That is about
00:45:56.680 what I wanted to
00:45:57.260 talk about today,
00:45:58.880 and I think
00:46:00.080 done a good
00:46:01.700 job.
00:46:02.100 hacking is a
00:46:05.220 crime, sure,
00:46:06.700 but that's not
00:46:07.760 what the
00:46:08.320 Clinton campaign
00:46:09.240 is accused
00:46:09.980 of.
00:46:16.680 Bearing false
00:46:17.560 witness, I guess
00:46:18.300 that's...
00:46:18.940 Yeah, Carl
00:46:19.480 Bernstein, still
00:46:20.520 not around.
00:46:22.940 Now, it does
00:46:23.600 look like the...
00:46:26.420 Yeah, did Jake...
00:46:27.520 Has Jake
00:46:28.200 Tapper...
00:46:28.600 I don't think
00:46:29.020 anybody on CNN
00:46:29.720 has mentioned
00:46:30.340 the Durham
00:46:31.680 new filing,
00:46:33.020 right?
00:46:33.680 Has anybody
00:46:34.180 seen it mentioned
00:46:34.920 at all
00:46:36.260 in any concept?
00:46:38.360 Any context?
00:46:43.100 Business
00:46:43.540 Insider?
00:46:47.320 Well, this
00:46:47.940 will be a good
00:46:48.380 test.
00:46:50.740 So,
00:46:51.460 Tim Pool,
00:46:52.460 yes.
00:46:53.000 Newsweek,
00:46:53.740 just to insult
00:46:54.480 Trump.
00:46:55.180 Nothing in
00:46:55.620 New York Times.
00:46:56.460 just look
00:47:04.920 at your
00:47:05.180 comments.
00:47:07.740 New York
00:47:08.080 Post.
00:47:10.080 Interesting.
00:47:12.860 You know,
00:47:14.580 whatever you
00:47:16.060 believed about
00:47:16.980 how much
00:47:17.900 manipulation
00:47:18.380 there is
00:47:18.960 by the
00:47:19.280 media,
00:47:20.360 did you
00:47:20.820 ever think
00:47:21.260 there was
00:47:21.560 this much?
00:47:22.840 This feels
00:47:23.720 like a whole
00:47:24.620 new level,
00:47:25.660 doesn't it?
00:47:26.980 Like,
00:47:27.200 every time
00:47:27.580 you think,
00:47:28.060 oh,
00:47:28.240 they can't
00:47:28.600 get any
00:47:28.820 worse than
00:47:29.160 this.
00:47:32.620 Oh,
00:47:33.140 so,
00:47:33.760 June is
00:47:34.440 saying,
00:47:34.740 if it's
00:47:34.960 not reported
00:47:35.560 on both
00:47:36.020 sides,
00:47:36.460 it's not
00:47:36.820 real.
00:47:37.720 Let me
00:47:38.200 tweak that.
00:47:40.680 So,
00:47:40.820 that's a
00:47:41.900 rule that
00:47:42.420 I've used
00:47:43.080 for a BS
00:47:43.880 test.
00:47:46.680 So,
00:47:46.900 the BS
00:47:47.240 test is if
00:47:47.980 one side
00:47:48.500 says something's
00:47:49.240 true and
00:47:49.700 the other
00:47:49.920 side says
00:47:50.460 it's not
00:47:50.840 true,
00:47:51.600 it's probably
00:47:51.980 not true.
00:47:53.480 Because I
00:47:54.080 usually go with
00:47:54.840 the not true
00:47:55.400 ones.
00:47:55.600 But in
00:47:56.180 this case,
00:47:56.640 it's being
00:47:56.980 ignored.
00:47:57.720 It's not
00:47:58.060 being called
00:47:58.480 not true.
00:47:59.780 In that case,
00:48:00.480 you have to
00:48:00.840 assume that
00:48:01.240 the accusation
00:48:01.960 is true.
00:48:03.080 Because the
00:48:03.660 other side is
00:48:04.160 not addressing
00:48:04.740 it.
00:48:05.020 And it's
00:48:05.260 such a big
00:48:05.720 one that if
00:48:07.320 you don't
00:48:07.640 address it,
00:48:08.200 that's saying
00:48:08.600 something.
00:48:09.320 So the BS
00:48:09.920 indicator would
00:48:10.600 say ignoring
00:48:11.340 it means
00:48:12.780 guilt.
00:48:13.780 But if they
00:48:14.240 said, no,
00:48:14.740 we looked
00:48:15.060 into it and
00:48:15.560 you're looking
00:48:17.420 at it wrong,
00:48:18.500 or you forgot
00:48:19.280 a fact,
00:48:19.920 or there's
00:48:20.180 some context,
00:48:20.840 text, then
00:48:21.900 I would go
00:48:22.460 with the
00:48:22.960 debunker,
00:48:23.800 actually,
00:48:24.560 usually.
00:48:25.080 Doesn't mean
00:48:25.480 they're always
00:48:25.820 right.
00:48:26.180 It's just a
00:48:26.620 general rule
00:48:27.320 of thumb.
00:48:32.260 David
00:48:32.700 Pakman reports
00:48:33.600 on a
00:48:33.860 completely
00:48:34.240 different world.
00:48:35.060 He does.
00:48:36.720 Yeah, he
00:48:37.100 and I have
00:48:37.880 talked.
00:48:38.500 It's interesting,
00:48:39.200 his background
00:48:39.820 is economics
00:48:40.500 as well.
00:48:41.500 So we can
00:48:42.460 actually speak
00:48:43.340 productively despite
00:48:44.660 being in different
00:48:45.420 movies, which is
00:48:46.220 weird.
00:48:46.460 All right.
00:48:51.320 It's worse
00:48:51.940 than Watergate.
00:48:54.560 You haven't
00:48:55.340 heard of
00:48:56.080 Durham's
00:48:57.920 release about
00:48:58.500 Hillary on
00:48:59.220 Saturday
00:48:59.580 morning.
00:49:02.060 I don't, I
00:49:03.500 guess I haven't
00:49:04.000 heard of that.
00:49:04.600 I don't know
00:49:04.880 what you're
00:49:05.120 talking about.
00:49:05.520 Russiagate
00:49:15.820 was denied.
00:49:17.060 Was that
00:49:17.600 true?
00:49:19.380 There you go
00:49:20.160 with the
00:49:20.440 denier.
00:49:26.120 Oh, you
00:49:27.200 mean Russiagate
00:49:27.800 in terms of
00:49:28.360 it being a
00:49:29.180 fake thing.
00:49:31.520 Oh, that's
00:49:31.820 true.
00:49:32.600 Yeah, that
00:49:32.860 would be
00:49:33.100 interesting because
00:49:33.940 for the
00:49:37.400 Russia collusion
00:49:38.240 thing, there
00:49:39.760 were two
00:49:40.160 movies.
00:49:40.620 One is that
00:49:41.120 it was always
00:49:41.660 like a hit
00:49:43.140 job and the
00:49:44.320 other was that
00:49:44.780 it was true.
00:49:45.940 But in both
00:49:46.600 of those, there's
00:49:47.360 one saying it
00:49:48.440 was true and
00:49:48.920 one saying it's
00:49:49.400 false.
00:49:50.160 So they kind
00:49:50.620 of cancel each
00:49:51.260 other out.
00:49:51.740 That's a weird
00:49:52.180 one.
00:49:54.040 But Trump
00:49:54.520 was right
00:49:55.160 that they were
00:49:56.440 spying on him.
00:50:00.200 Distance
00:50:00.600 yourself from
00:50:01.120 the left,
00:50:01.600 Scott.
00:50:01.940 They are
00:50:02.180 truly evil,
00:50:03.520 undermined
00:50:03.920 all of us
00:50:04.620 forever.
00:50:06.060 I don't
00:50:06.540 think they're
00:50:06.920 evil.
00:50:07.260 I think that
00:50:07.840 they don't
00:50:08.260 have a good
00:50:08.980 talent stack.
00:50:10.740 That's what
00:50:11.360 I think.
00:50:12.860 I don't
00:50:13.440 think the
00:50:13.820 left has
00:50:14.280 evil people
00:50:14.920 in it.
00:50:17.880 Talent stack
00:50:18.720 meaning if
00:50:19.800 they understood
00:50:20.380 economics better,
00:50:21.680 for example,
00:50:23.080 and some
00:50:23.780 other, I
00:50:24.960 guess if
00:50:25.360 they understood
00:50:26.560 how human
00:50:27.160 motivation works,
00:50:29.180 then they
00:50:29.920 might be in
00:50:30.360 better shape.
00:50:30.800 evil is
00:50:38.240 banal.
00:50:39.140 Yeah, I
00:50:39.460 don't like to
00:50:39.940 call things
00:50:40.380 just evil,
00:50:41.020 because I
00:50:41.260 think that's
00:50:41.640 just putting
00:50:42.000 words on
00:50:42.540 stuff.
00:50:47.920 Pelosi is
00:50:48.620 not evil.
00:50:50.220 Well, I
00:50:52.540 don't know,
00:50:52.760 it's just too
00:50:53.300 simplistic to
00:50:54.200 label people as
00:50:54.960 evil.
00:50:55.360 I don't think
00:50:55.960 Pelosi wakes up
00:50:56.980 in the morning
00:50:57.480 and says,
00:50:58.060 let me go
00:50:58.400 do some
00:50:58.860 devil stuff.
00:51:00.780 I think she
00:51:01.340 has undoubtedly
00:51:02.840 done things
00:51:03.580 that you and
00:51:04.040 I don't like.
00:51:05.240 It kind of
00:51:05.660 comes with
00:51:06.020 that job.
00:51:09.120 All right,
00:51:10.160 that is all
00:51:11.000 I've got for
00:51:11.320 now, and I
00:51:11.880 will talk to
00:51:12.340 you tomorrow.
00:51:13.920 I'm pretty
00:51:14.320 sure this is
00:51:14.840 the best thing
00:51:15.300 you've ever
00:51:15.620 seen in your
00:51:16.020 life.
00:51:16.920 Until
00:51:17.220 tomorrow,
00:51:18.140 that's all
00:51:18.900 for now.
00:51:19.220 so
00:51:20.960 it's
00:51:21.820 like
00:51:23.140 you
00:51:23.940 and
00:51:24.400 it's
00:51:24.760 like
00:51:25.180 you
00:51:29.080 therefore
00:51:29.600 you
00:51:33.840 now
00:51:38.160 you
00:51:38.300 have
00:51:39.240 a
00:51:41.580 holding
00:51:41.660 hand
00:51:41.920 hand
00:51:42.760 hand
00:51:45.960 hand
00:51:47.280 hand
00:51:47.780 hand
00:51:48.620 hand