Episode 1722 Scott Adams: Russian Oligarchs Mysteriously Die, Ron DeSantis Makes Politics Interesting Again
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Summary
In this episode, I tell the story of the first time I met President Trump, and why I think he's one of the most awesome people in the world, and then I tell a story about when I first met him in the Oval Office.
Transcript
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Hey everybody. Wow, you made it. And I guess that's a good sign for you. I would say that
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today is looking good for you. Really looking good. Why? Because you're starting it with
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this amazingness. A lot of people are starting it wrong. Wrong side of the bed. No, you are
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on the right side of the bed. Do you know what the right side of the bed is? The top.
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I recommend the top. Bottom part of the bed, same amount of real estate, not nearly as
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good. Gravity just ruins the whole thing. Now, how would you like to take it up a notch?
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Wouldn't you? Oh, I know you would. I know you would. And all you need is a cup or a mug
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or a glass. I'd take your Chelsea sign, a canteen jug or a flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill
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it with your favorite liquid. Um, I like coffee. And join me now for this unparalleled
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pleasure, the dopamine of the day. I think it makes everything better. It's called the
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simultaneous sip. And it sounds different when I'm talking in my coffee cup. Go.
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Oh. Oh. Internal organs coming online. I feel like my liver wasn't even online until just
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now. Spleen, looking good. Lungs, heart, good. All systems good. You have to lube yourself
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with coffee now and then. It's very important. I would like to begin with a little story that
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I call your favorite president. Um, when I met President Trump at the Oval Office, the
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story I tell all the time because I don't have any other stories that are that good, really.
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That's my best story. You're probably going to hear that one a few more times. But when
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I first got there, he was, uh, just finishing up, uh, creating a tweet. So there's nothing
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cooler. Can you imagine this? Can you imagine walking in and being introduced as Trump is,
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uh, designing a tweet in real time? And, you know, he's talking to his little group of staff
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there, Dan Scavino. I think he was talking to him to actually send out the tweet.
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Uh, talk about being exactly like, you know, watching history being created in front of
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you. Watching Trump in the Oval Office, in the little side office where he was next to
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it, literally creating a tweet in real time was one of the most interesting things I've
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ever seen in my life. I doubt anything will ever be that cool, honestly. I'm not going to
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be able to top that. But the tweet, he was, I don't, I forget the content of the tweet,
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but as a, as an ending to the tweet, just as I walked in, he was, he was saying an ad,
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add to the end of the tweet, uh, something about your favorite president. I forget his exact
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words, but just say your favorite president. And I remember that was the first thing that
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I said to him. It was like, how much I love that. I love that. You know, the, the favorite
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president thing, but let me tell you why I love it. The reason I love it is that was
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him allowing you behind the curtain. When Trump puts on the end of his tweet, your favorite
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president, he's just pulling the curtain back a little bit and saying, you know, this is
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an act, right? You realize that this is for effect, that this is a show. I'm trying to get
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the job done, but the way to get the job done in part is to draw the attention to me. And
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then I use that energy the way I want it. And, but he doesn't say it. He doesn't say
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it in like direct words. He just puts that at the end of a serious tweet, you know, about
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a serious topic. I forget what it was. And then he says, your favorite president. And
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I'm like, okay, if you're, if you're paying attention at all, he just, he just opened the
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curtain and said, you see what I'm doing? And in large part, that's why it was easier
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for me to support him despite all of the provocations because I saw it as part of a larger show, which
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brought him tremendous, like tools. It just gave him more tools. He could control the conversation
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and all that stuff. So I thought I would mention that in terms of persuasion, because sometimes
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you have to send two messages at the same time. If you're trying to persuade a crowd that has
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some dumb people in it, let's say there's a bunch of gullible people in it. And then there's a bunch
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of smart people who really kind of want to know what you're really up to. You know, the real cynicals
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and the people who have been behind the curtain are like, eh, what are you really up to? So if
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you're trying to convince both, it's pretty hard, but Trump could do it because he'd give his simple
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message to one group. And then when he was talking to the people who might be concerned
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about, you know, the level of provocation that he puts out there, he just, he just says, you know,
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your favorite president, he just opens the curtain a little bit, a little bit and says, okay,
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you smart people, here's what I'm doing. All right. The other people, they're just enjoying the show,
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but you know, you can see what I'm doing. I'm putting on a show. All right. Speaking of the show,
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a weird little funny story was that some text exchanges between Bill Gates and Elon Musk just hit the
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media and they've been confirmed. So Elon Musk is tweeting about it and they're definitely his tweets.
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He says he doesn't know how it got to the New York Times unless it was a, you know, friend of a friend
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situation, passed it off. So, so one assumes from that, that, uh, the presumption is that at least one
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person who had possession of it, either a Bill Gates or Elon Musk, uh, may have shown it to at least
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one person. And then that one person may have shown it to one other person and somehow it got into the
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media. So he doesn't know. Um, but have I reminded you that there's no such thing as a private
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communication? If you ever want to see a better example of this, how, how do, how does a message
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from Bill Gates and, uh, Elon Musk, a private message, how does that end up in the New York
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Times? And the answer is, it doesn't matter if somebody hacked, it can hack you because people
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just show stuff to people and then it goes anywhere. Let, let me ask you this. Suppose you
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had been the one, let's, let's say there was only one person. Suppose you had been the one person that
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one of them had sent the screenshot to, could you not show it to anybody? I mean, really? If, if either
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one of these, these guys, Bill Gates or Elon Musk showed you a screenshot of a communication between
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the two of them, what would you do? Just say, oh, that's interesting. I think I'll sit on this.
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Um, like who could, who could not tell somebody about that? How could you not tell your spouse
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at least? I mean, you know, there, there are definitely things that most of us could keep
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from a spouse if it's like that, if it's that important, you know, somebody is going to go
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to jail or something. You might actually keep that from a spouse because you don't want anybody
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to accidentally go to jail that didn't need to. Um, but I don't think anybody could, nobody
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has enough self-discipline not to show a friend that they've got a screenshot of these two guys
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talking and especially the topic. So there's no such thing as privacy. I, I've lived for many years
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now with the assumption of zero privacy for myself and it's weirdly free. Here's something you would
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never, you would never expect. When I finally gave up on the notion that I had any privacy and
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never would, you just feel sort of free. Like I imagine by analogy, what it's like if
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you're gay and you come out, you know, it's like maybe traumatic while it's happening. But
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then as soon as you're done, I hear, I mean, this is what I hear. You feel free for the first
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time. So anyway, here's what, uh, Musk and Gates were talking about. Uh, Bill Gates was texting Musk
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to talk to him about philanthropy. Details were not clear. Um, but Musk asked Bill Gates if he still
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had, if Gates still had a short position on Tesla stock. Now, if you're not an investor, a short
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position means that you're betting the stock will go down and probably a lot. A long position means
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you're, you're, you want to own it for the long run because you think it will go up. So Gates has a
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short position of half a billion dollars, half a billion dollars, even for Bill Gates is not small
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money, right? Even if you have a hundred and whatever billion, half a billion is still some serious change.
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And he's got half a billion dollars bet that Tesla is going to basically go down the toilet. I mean,
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not completely, but like it'll, it's, it's stock is too high. I guess that's the bet. And, uh, so in
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this Texas change, Musk asked Bill Gates, does he still hold that position, the short position in Tesla?
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And, uh, Gates admitted, he goes, yo, sorry, I, I haven't unwound that. So he didn't really suggest
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that it was a bad idea to hold it. And he didn't suggest that he didn't think the stock was going to go
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down someday. Oh, by the way, I own, I own Tesla stock. I should throw that in there. So I am an
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owner of Tesla stock, a small part of my portfolio. Um, so throwing that in there anyway. And then, uh,
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Musk concluded that, uh, he couldn't possibly work with Gates, uh, on philanthropy when Gates
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was betting against these, the company that's doing the most on climate change.
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And I thought to myself, that kind of makes sense, doesn't it? Like what, how can you do business
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with somebody who is betting against you when you're trying to save the world,
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even according to the person who's betting against you? And you're doing a great job,
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uh, at least according to some people. You could argue whether electric cars are saving the world
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or not. But remember, he's also doing, doing, uh, solar, solar stuff as well. So there it was,
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uh, half a billion dollars bet against Tesla caused, uh, Bill Gates not to be able to talk to the richest
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man in the world, which is the most ironic or richest man in the country, I guess, which is the
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most erotic thing. It's not ironic, but ironic, but I like to use that word or overuse it.
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All right. Um, truth social, you know, president Trump's upcoming social network that, uh, had a lot
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of, uh, glitches because it was tough to, tough to sign in and get into it. Well, apparently as of
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today they have switched to the rumble cloud. Now let me tell you the importance of this. It's actually
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a really big deal and not just because of truth social. So here's what's happening in the tech slash
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political slash censorship world. So this company rumble, uh, and by the way, full disclosure, um, rumble
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acquired locals, locals, I have an investment in. So my investment gets pulled over to rumble.
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So I'm not, I'm not an objective observer. Okay. Full disclosure. Cause wherever, wherever money is
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involved, even if you're not trying to be subjective, it's hard not to be right money, money corrupts all
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opinions. So I'll just tell you that presumably mine is corrupted in this case, but you can do your
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own, uh, judgment there. So the, the rumble network originally was sort of a YouTube competitor,
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but unfortunately they couldn't use the same, uh, server networks as other people could because they
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were sort of considered, um, I guess too, too dangerous, too right wing, too something. So they ended up
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creating their own side business to create their own server, um, network that would support just rumble
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itself. And apparently rumble is doing well from what I read. I don't have any inside information, but from
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what I read publicly, it looks like rumble is growing fast. Now, how big a deal is it to have a server farm and
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also a social media network. It's like a real big deal, but it also gives you another whole business
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to monetize because you can let other people use your servers as well. So one of the other networks
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that will use the rumble servers is first of all, locals, I think is on there. So the locals network
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got moved on there. I think I'm, I'm not entirely sure that what that's what happened. It may, or it's
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going to, or something, but one assumes that would happen if it hasn't happened already because
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logically that would happen. Um, and if the truth social network goes over and maybe some other,
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um, entities which have not been able to get the service they want on the big, you know, Amazon
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server farms or Microsoft server farms, um, maybe they'll have a new home. So in terms of freedom of
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speech, this little technical story about truth going onto the rumble network is a really big deal,
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not only business wise, but in freedom wise, you know, in, in having alternative ways to get views
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out. Now, this will of course, uh, also result in more, uh, horrible views that you think are destroying
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the world, but freedom of speech, there'll be more of that. So I'm in favor of competition,
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generally speaking. So that looks good. Did you see the story about, uh, Florida was rejecting a bunch
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of math books because they had some either, I don't know, they were too woke or there were some racist
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examples in them or something like that. Did you see that story? It's like big national story. And so you
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said to yourself, math books, how could a math book be too woke? Like what exactly would that be? The word
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problems or something? And so like everybody, yeah, like, like everybody, I thought, God, I can't wait to see
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one of these examples. Because I remember they said that about the SATs. And I thought, really? Really? The SATs
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are racist. I'd like to see an example of that. And then I saw an example. It was actually a pretty
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good example. Oh, okay. And the example was what goes with a cup, cup or table or cup and saucer.
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And apparently people who don't have fancy lives think you put a cup on the table. And people who
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have a little extra cash, they might own these things called saucers. And so because of the income
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social, you know, whatever, uh, difference, maybe the black population would be less likely to say
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saucer. And therefore that would be actually an actually pretty good example of a racist question.
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Surprise the hell out of me. You know, if you're being objective, yeah, it's a class question,
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but because class and race are so correlated, it ends up being a racial outcome, right? It's not,
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it's not racist by design. It just has that outcome. So I thought that was a good example.
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But when it comes to this racist math book story, uh, some things have been published, but you look at
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them and you go, what? I don't even know exactly what I'm looking at. So there's no real example of it.
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So I don't know what's going on or what the real story is, but there's definitely fake news going
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on. I don't know what else is happening. Like if anybody's trying to get one over on you, or
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it's just a confused story, or it's just incorrect, but there's something totally wrong with the story.
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I don't know what, but it's not true in, in the way it's presented. There's something extra,
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something left out. I don't know. It's definitely not true. So forget about that one. All right.
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this, this was the best clickbait, uh, title I've seen in a long time. So you know how there'll be a long
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title to something you can click, but because of space constraints, the sentence that's the long
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description gets cut off. So here's where this was cut off. Teacher of the year suspended for showing
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students her, and then it's cut off. Teacher of the year suspended for showing students her
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something. It turned out to be a picture of her fiance. She was suspended for showing students a picture
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of her fiance. Do you believe it? Could somebody be suspended for showing a picture of their fiance?
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Now he was, the fiance, the fiance was clothed, but female, but female. So apparently, uh,
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she was suspended for showing a picture of her same sex fiance. Um, and she's of course fighting
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it. Now, this sort of gets into the whole, uh, what can you tell kids and why can't you?
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Um, I, I'd like to see a little instant, uh, unscientific poll right here. How many of you
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would be upset if you were, let's say a, uh, I don't know what grade this was, but I'll just put
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a grade on it for our question. Let's say it was first grade. Just, it wasn't, but let's say it was
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first grade. Would you be upset if you knew that the teacher showed a child, a same sex, uh, union?
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It's 2022 people. It's 2022. And somebody would be upset. And by the way, I'm not judging you
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because it's not up to me. Your opinion can be your opinion. You can have whatever opinion you like.
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You're, you're completely welcome. As long as we can have our opinions too, right? If you're not
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judging our opinions, I won't judge your opinions. And, and it's just better that way. Um, all right,
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let me, let me tell you something. If you don't have kids, if you haven't been exposed to, you know,
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young people in the backseat of your car lately talking to each other, um, homosexuality doesn't
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mean anything to kids anymore. I mean, there's still the teasing and stuff, especially the, the boy,
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boy stuff, but girl, girl stuff, at least is just, it's not even, uh, it's not even a topic really.
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It, the, the, the way that young people talk about, um, same sex dating is as just an option.
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It's completely different than whatever, whatever you grew up with if you're a certain age. But
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they actually just talk about it as an option. It's just a matter of fact sort of thing. And
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is that, is that, is that good for the world? I think it probably is. I think it's good for the
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world. Now that's purely an opinion, right? I'm not sure how you would measure it, but I'm generally
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in favor of being open-minded to things that don't hurt you. Here's my, here's my overall opinion of the
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LGBTQ community, right? Like anything you say about a whole community is automatically bigoted and
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false, right? Because there's, you know, people don't fit all the stereotypes. So just, just knowing
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that anything you say is automatically off balance. But here's how I think of it. Have you ever been in
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one of these situations where somebody said, oh, don't go in that neighborhood? Don't go in that
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neighborhood because the, the LGBTQ people have ruined it? Like, you never hear that. Like, what
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have they ruined? Anything? Like, I don't know. They, they take good care of their lawns. They have
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good jobs. They tend to be, you know, serious about work. What, what exactly are you complaining
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about? Because how much of it does it affect you? I don't know. Because it affects you because
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of the pronouns and stuff. Okay, whatever. But I mean, it's not the biggest problem in
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the world. So in terms of, if there was one group of people you'd have to say is definitely
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not bothering you unless you're in some like specific social situation. I'm definitely in
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the live and let live category for, for all that. So, but I, but the only thing I would
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add to the conversation, because I'm not looking to change anybody's opinion about anything on
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these topics because I don't think it's possible. But the only thing I'm saying is that you may
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not be aware that the bus has already left the station. Or is it the train? The train has
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already left the station. Among young people, being gay, lesbian, it just doesn't mean anything
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anymore. It's just all of its meaning. It's just in the normal baseline now. And to me,
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that looks like an improvement. Do you think that's not true? How many of you think that's
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an improvement that it's just no big deal? It's just sort of live and let live, even among
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the children. I expected some disagreement on that. Yep. And then I guess the question
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would be, to what extent are people's legitimate preferences, which for most part in a free
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country, we like people to have access to their legitimate preferences if nobody else is getting
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hurt. Generally, we're on that side. But at what point does that like start infringe on
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the way you raise your own kid? Because it does, right? Everything's connected. You can't
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say they're unconnected from, you know, the influence on your children. So what if you were
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worried that your own children would be influenced into maybe being confused or have some trouble
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with their sexuality? Are you worried about that? Because I'm not sure it works that way.
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Because generally, information works in the positive way, doesn't it? There's certainly
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an age at which they can't make decisions. But I would argue that age is like 25.
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I totally get it if you say a five-year-old, you know, can't handle this stuff. So you want
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to leave that to the parents? I get that. That's a pretty strong argument. But I would argue
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that anybody under 25 is confused as well. So, yeah, I don't know. Isn't that much better?
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So let's talk about DeSantis. So I criticized DeSantis yesterday for political retaliation at
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Disney because Disney spoke out against his proposed laws, proposed or actual laws, I forget,
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that would limit what could be taught in schools in terms of, let's say, non-hetero mainstream
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lessons, I guess. And so I came down hard on him yesterday, which angered a number of you
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because a number of you were on the side of, no, you just always have to push back. Because
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if you don't push back, the other team will just push you and push you. You will look
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weak. And then I made my arguments about that. But now I would like to agree
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let's say we're just separating because I often did this when I looked at Trump.
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well, there's a bunch of stuff that I would have done differently.
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But what he did work, I mean, to become president, and he got a lot done.
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But it didn't help him for re-election, so that's sort of where I was at,
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was really good and that he was only talking to his base anyway.
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So if you're only talking to your base, then I would say DeSantis' play is strong.
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If what you're trying to do is just win elections and use the power of being in office,
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and this is a way to win, I would say that's not a bad way to go.
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attached to the leader and you're more likely to vote.
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And then that leader is more likely to get elected with more of a mandate,
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ultimately getting what you want are all connected,
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As a purely political calculation of persuading your base,
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Because I think that's what you were telling me.
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But the way you were saying it wasn't quite the way I'm saying it.
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is such a direct benefit that the other team changes what they're doing.
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And that's what I was pushing that back against.
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making them feel that you're fighting for them.
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It's the feeling of the fighting that's important,
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So if you take it from the perspective of somebody talking only to his base,
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And it also makes it more likely he'll get reelected,
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makes it more likely he could run for president
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because I don't like retaliation from the people I pay.
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that if you think a Republican set of policies is a good thing,
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So I would say that would be a completely rational thing
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to support him in just getting his base all fired up.
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But I doubt the other side is much persuaded by it.
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is corporations just not wanting to have an opinion in public.
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I wouldn't want the CEO to speak for the whole company
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and then not allow the employees to have a dissenting opinion,
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But if you want to give up a little bit on free speech,
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of getting your Republican conservative policies,
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if that's what you think is best for the world,
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Somebody said I have some strange takes on the situation.
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Paul Collider had an interesting statement on this,
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especially when you're talking about the tax treatment
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for this awesome thing for Florida and for Disney