Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1723 Scott Adams： Who Wins And Who Lose In The Florida Battle Between Disney And DeSantis？

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00:01:57.080 So, this Disney and DeSantis thing is way more interesting than it should be. Meaning that I started out thinking it was sort of a thin story. There wasn't much to it. But there's really a lot of interesting elements to it. And I don't know they're fully appreciated. So let's talk about that.

00:02:19.220 So, just an update. If you don't know, Disney years ago in the 60s negotiated a deal with the state of Florida where they would have some autonomy in a certain part of the state that they owned. So it was their own property.

00:02:35.560 And they could put in their own city services. Water, sewage, roads, stuff like that. As well as other powers. But that's mainly what they wanted to do was take care of the infrastructure.

00:02:49.220 And I guess they got tax breaks or no taxes or something like that. And in return, they built the Disney properties. And the state would benefit from the people coming in and having a big business where there had been nothing but, you know, unused land before.

00:03:08.060 And then Disney would benefit from the, you know, the efficiency and the tax breaks.

00:03:13.600 And that was a good idea until Disney opened its mouth about the poorly labeled, don't say gay law that really wasn't about that. 0.69

00:03:22.880 It was more about not having teachers teach little kids things about sexuality.

00:03:30.220 And, or even things about gender identity, stuff like that. So that was the basic idea.

00:03:39.340 So then Governor DeSantis retaliated. And we'll talk about whether that word really fits. I don't think it does.

00:03:46.860 He retaliated, so to speak, by revoking Disney's special deal.

00:03:56.940 And, and what, and it was just because Disney spoke up about the law.

00:04:03.360 Now, all right, that's the setup, just so everybody's up to speed.

00:04:06.860 Here are the things that people have been saying about it.

00:04:10.700 One is that it's, Disney had an unfair deal because they weren't paying taxes.

00:04:18.360 Unlike other corporations, they weren't paying taxes.

00:04:22.040 And so why is that good for Florida if Florida is giving up some, you know, autonomy and they're not getting taxes?

00:04:30.680 It's a bad deal for Florida, right?

00:04:32.260 No. No, there's a reason that Florida made the deal.

00:04:39.160 No, I don't, I don't own Disney stock except that it's a component of an index fund.

00:04:44.280 Good question.

00:04:45.600 By the way, you should always ask that question.

00:04:47.360 If you see me mention any product or even a CEO, ask it, just remind me because I don't, I just don't remember to do it.

00:04:55.520 Because there are some of these companies that, that I have some stock in.

00:04:58.860 And I do think it influences me, even when I don't feel it.

00:05:02.580 Of course it does.

00:05:03.560 Money always does.

00:05:06.160 But I don't have any specific stake in Disney.

00:05:09.900 So, here's the thing.

00:05:17.080 Disney employs 60,000 people in Florida.

00:05:19.840 So, that's 60,000 employees who get a paycheck, and then what happens with their paycheck?

00:05:27.980 Money comes out of it, that's called taxes, and it goes to Florida.

00:05:32.140 Now, that's 60,000 people who either wouldn't be there to work or would have had, I don't know, were competing with other jobs, would have been higher unemployment.

00:05:42.800 It would have been something different.

00:05:44.600 But 60,000 employees is quite a few people.

00:05:47.220 How about the tourists?

00:05:50.580 All those tourists who come into Florida, they're paying hotel taxes, right?

00:05:55.480 So, a hotel tax is almost like an income tax on somebody who doesn't live there.

00:06:00.100 It's just sort of an indirect income tax.

00:06:04.520 So, Florida actually has a way to, in a conceptual way, to levy, because it's a destination state.

00:06:14.240 Everybody wants to go there, for vacation anyway.

00:06:18.460 They can essentially put an income tax on other states.

00:06:22.880 Because if you make some money in another state, and you want to spend it in Florida on a vacation,

00:06:28.200 some of that money is going to go into the hotel tax and go into Florida's pocket.

00:06:31.660 So, how many millions of people go to Disney every year, and they're filling Florida's coffers through the hotel tax,

00:06:40.800 and then all these people are eating and drinking and buying goods, and there's this ripple effect.

00:06:46.920 The size of the footprint of Disney's economic benefit to Florida is kind of enormous, isn't it?

00:06:57.460 Am I wrong?

00:06:58.460 If you were talking to an actual commercial successful economist,

00:07:03.820 if you said to an economist, Disney doesn't pay taxes in Florida, would they just laugh at you?

00:07:10.820 I'm pretty sure that Disney creates more taxable situations, which is different.

00:07:19.280 They create more taxable situations than anybody in Florida.

00:07:25.080 I don't know.

00:07:25.620 Who is the biggest employer in Florida, besides the government?

00:07:29.960 Outside the government, who's the biggest, and maybe schools?

00:07:33.020 Outside the government and schools, is it Disney?

00:07:36.600 Military.

00:07:37.400 Could be military, but that doesn't count.

00:07:38.840 Well, Disney's one of them.

00:07:43.080 Somebody says NASA?

00:07:45.020 I would think Disney's the bigger one in terms of tax impact.

00:07:51.020 So, now, that's not counting the fact that Disney built their own infrastructure.

00:07:57.260 So, instead of the town paying for roads, Disney paid for them.

00:08:02.440 Isn't that like a tax?

00:08:04.360 It's in place of a tax, which was the whole idea.

00:08:07.060 We won't, you know, you won't have a lot of taxes, but those taxes would have paid for the roads, but you're going to pay for the roads.

00:08:16.540 So, just like a tax, you just have more flexibility to put the roads where you want them.

00:08:22.700 And who knew better where to put them?

00:08:24.260 I mean, Disney knew where to put the roads and what kind and when they needed them, and it was their priority.

00:08:30.160 So, wouldn't you prefer Disney build the roads to make it exactly what they wanted and built for the customer's impact?

00:08:38.800 So, he says, you're really trying hard, Scott.

00:08:45.480 You know, when somebody says that, like, I know I've sort of made some inroads.

00:08:52.380 Look for how many generic criticisms I get on this topic.

00:08:57.960 Watch how generic they are.

00:08:59.940 And that'll be a topic coming up.

00:09:01.920 All right, so, the first thing I would say is that the reason that Florida made the deal with Disney is not because Disney was so clever that they put one over on Florida.

00:09:15.500 That didn't happen.

00:09:17.060 I mean, there's no evidence that that happened.

00:09:19.020 The evidence is that two sophisticated entities, Disney and the governor of Florida, got together and they said, all right, what's good for you?

00:09:30.780 What's good for us?

00:09:32.020 How do we make a deal that's good for all of us?

00:09:34.540 And, by the way, when you decide how long a deal lasts, if you decide it's sort of a forever deal, that's part of your initial calculation.

00:09:43.360 If it's a bad deal, what happens?

00:09:50.320 Well, in my view, a deal is a deal.

00:09:53.340 So, that's a bigger factor for me than it is for some of you, and I'll talk about that in a minute.

00:09:59.180 So, let me start with that.

00:10:00.380 It's easier.

00:10:00.780 I'm going to go to the whiteboard.

00:10:02.220 So, would you agree that some of you have different opinions than I do about the Disney-DeSantis thing, right?

00:10:09.400 Starting with the fact that we have different opinions of it.

00:10:11.900 But why?

00:10:13.360 Is it because of the logic?

00:10:16.260 Or some knowledge?

00:10:18.960 Probably not.

00:10:20.360 I think how you come out on this has to do with your priorities.

00:10:26.300 In other words, there are a lot of things in play.

00:10:29.860 So, some people have sort of an anti-corporate power bias.

00:10:35.160 You know, it's just sort of, it's a filter they see the world in.

00:10:38.180 And so, they say, hey, why should Disney have a special deal?

00:10:41.540 Maybe that's a high priority for you.

00:10:43.360 It wouldn't be for me, but I could see why that would be for somebody else.

00:10:48.320 Parental rights. 0.71

00:10:49.420 Now, of course, this is the central issue, right?

00:10:52.900 The parental rights.

00:10:53.740 So, I would say that for many of you, that's the number one thing.

00:10:58.680 And whatever it is, whatever it is that gets to support that, even if it's a little extreme, even if it's breaking a deal, it's just the most important thing.

00:11:08.000 So, you might say to yourself, you know, I could be kind of flexible about everything, everything, if I can get this one thing.

00:11:17.720 I just want to have parental rights about how to raise my kid.

00:11:21.140 Reasonable.

00:11:21.500 But I don't have any pushback on that.

00:11:25.460 Anybody who has that opinion, I'd say, it's a good opinion.

00:11:28.560 Some people say that it's about winning.

00:11:32.700 You know, it's more important to win.

00:11:34.180 Other people say it's deterrence.

00:11:35.940 By the way, I was debating the word retaliation.

00:11:42.560 And I said that if retaliation is what you're doing, like just retaliation, you should be impeached.

00:11:50.540 Because we don't, you don't hire people to retaliate.

00:11:54.580 That's not really the job.

00:11:56.640 But, here's what I realized.

00:12:00.160 Here's what I realized.

00:12:04.760 The comments are going crazy because you want me to use the word grooming.

00:12:09.160 To make you, that'll make you happy?

00:12:11.700 Yes.

00:12:12.240 If you believe that the issue is grooming, I'm putting that under parental rights.

00:12:17.500 Right?

00:12:17.640 So, I acknowledge that the issue is that people thought that their kids were getting groomed.

00:12:25.820 But that's all, that all comes under the category of you want control of what your kids hear, right?

00:12:33.000 Do you agree that's the catch-all for that?

00:12:37.460 Somebody says I'm wrong.

00:12:38.760 Where am I wrong?

00:12:42.860 Issue is Disney lying.

00:12:45.260 Okay.

00:12:45.480 So, there are other issues.

00:12:47.300 People say Disney lying.

00:12:48.580 I would say that if you use the word deterrence instead of retaliation, then I'll agree with you.

00:12:55.080 Watch this.

00:12:56.060 Watch this, I'll agree.

00:12:57.680 You probably didn't think that we could find a way to agree, but watch this.

00:13:02.940 If I asked you to replace the word retaliation with the word deterrence,

00:13:08.860 that DeSantis pushed back in what you could call an unrelated area to create a deterrence for not only Disney,

00:13:19.540 but anybody else who would get into this realm and maybe interfere with parental rights or be, you know,

00:13:27.020 promoting grooming or whatever it is you think is happening.

00:13:29.660 That worked, right?

00:13:33.380 As soon as I said deterrence, you all said, okay, that's what I was thinking, right?

00:13:38.080 But it was just retaliation that wasn't working for me as a word.

00:13:41.940 So, I think we were not disagreeing on the concept.

00:13:49.480 I think we only disagreed on the word.

00:13:52.300 And so, I would blame the journalists.

00:13:55.000 Well, no, I blame myself.

00:13:56.940 Allow me to take responsibility for my own opinions.

00:14:00.080 I blame myself for being, let's say, a little bit duped by the journalists calling it retaliation.

00:14:08.280 Now, keep in mind that the word retaliation was used on both sides, right?

00:14:13.200 CNN and Fox News have both used that term.

00:14:17.360 So, it wasn't like I was biased by one side.

00:14:20.940 I was biased by both sides and the way the journalists chose to treat it.

00:14:26.260 But as long as you say the purpose of it was to set up a precedent and say, look, if you mess with parents

00:14:36.440 or you mess with politics in a way that the people on the right don't like, there will be consequences.

00:14:43.820 You won't like them and they'll be fairly immediate.

00:14:46.040 And that that would form a counterbalance to the fact that the left is really good at getting pressure on corporations. 0.76

00:14:57.300 So, corporations already have pressure from the left.

00:15:00.620 They have had far less pressure from the right.

00:15:04.020 DeSantis is creating the first, let's say, memorable counterbalance.

00:15:08.040 Because keep in mind, from a persuasion perspective, it doesn't matter so much that he's doing it.

00:15:15.840 It matters that you remember it.

00:15:18.760 It's the remembering it that's the important part.

00:15:22.240 That's right.

00:15:22.780 You can do stuff all day long, but if people don't remember you did it, it will have no future effect.

00:15:28.660 So, if you're looking for a deterrence, you're looking for a future effect, you've got to remember it.

00:15:36.360 And has DeSantis pulled that off?

00:15:39.420 Would you say DeSantis has succeeded, at least for the people who pay attention to politics?

00:15:44.000 I'm not sure everybody's paying attention to this.

00:15:46.080 This is probably like a 10% at tops.

00:15:49.180 But wouldn't you say that he succeeded?

00:15:52.440 Totally, right?

00:15:53.220 The people who have any kind of political memory will always go back to this example.

00:16:00.400 And the very next time a corporation speaks out, everybody's going to say,

00:16:03.760 Whoa, you better pull that back, because you saw what happened to Disney.

00:16:08.840 You saw what DeSantis did to them.

00:16:11.560 So, I would agree this works as a deterrence.

00:16:15.180 And I would also agree with the people who are saying that the right had not yet established a mutually assured destruction that would keep the corporations on the sideline.

00:16:29.000 And if you think that that's a good thing, and many of you do, and that's a reasonable opinion, right?

00:16:34.360 If your politics aligns with the right, and you think the right has been bullied and pushed around,

00:16:41.660 and you see DeSantis as essentially landing a blow for your side, but also creating a deterrence,

00:16:50.480 then I accept that as a trade-off that makes sense.

00:16:56.880 But let me tell you where you and I are probably different.

00:17:01.320 And it's not in the logic of it.

00:17:03.120 And it has nothing to do with, you know, I don't have a different opinion about parental rights.

00:17:09.800 I'm pretty sure we, I think probably all of you watching, or the most part, have a very similar opinion.

00:17:16.080 You know, the parents have to be in charge.

00:17:18.540 You know, as much as is practical, they need to be in charge.

00:17:22.460 But here's where you and I differ.

00:17:26.180 I have been, perhaps irrational, if I were to look at my own thinking,

00:17:32.320 perhaps irrational, but it's there.

00:17:38.120 Keeping a deal is a big deal to me.

00:17:40.640 It's a big deal.

00:17:41.940 And here's why.

00:17:43.300 I'll give you the rationality, but maybe there's some irrational thing that's driving me for this.

00:17:47.320 It's the only thing that holds society together.

00:17:50.800 The reason the United States works, relative to, say, some country that the government never works,

00:17:59.380 is that in the United States, you have a reasonable expectation of people keeping their deal.

00:18:05.080 And if not, and if not, then, you know, there's some consequences.

00:18:12.660 Yeah, I was always impressed that China, as much as I criticize them, 1.00

00:18:17.280 I always was impressed that they just waited for the 99-year lease in Hong Kong to run out.

00:18:23.260 Because clearly they could have forced the issue earlier.

00:18:26.440 Right?

00:18:26.720 Clearly.

00:18:27.000 But they just, they kept to the deal.

00:18:31.640 And what about the UK?

00:18:34.080 Right?

00:18:34.480 They owned this thing for 100 years.

00:18:36.920 It had, you know, this great value.

00:18:39.200 And they said, deal's a deal.

00:18:44.660 So I always appreciated that.

00:18:47.200 Because every time you have a big example of somebody keeping a deal,

00:18:51.460 even when it's really not cool for them,

00:18:54.080 it's just really hard for them,

00:18:55.080 but they kept a deal.

00:18:56.840 That's what keeps everything together.

00:18:59.560 Like, it's the most basic glue of society,

00:19:04.040 is that you keep your deal.

00:19:06.760 So, does that apply to this special case?

00:19:11.840 I think a reasonable person could say,

00:19:13.980 Scott, I get what you're saying,

00:19:15.440 that that's important to keep your deals,

00:19:17.460 and that that's the glue that holds America together,

00:19:19.760 and really makes this special, I would say.

00:19:22.420 Because our court system will chase you if you don't keep a deal. 0.99

00:19:25.840 We do have that working, more or less.

00:19:28.940 Better than other countries.

00:19:31.000 But if you said this is a special case,

00:19:33.700 I would say, ah, you got me.

00:19:37.300 Because I'm always willing to treat anything like a special case.

00:19:40.680 I'm never the person who says there's no special cases.

00:19:43.640 There's always a special case.

00:19:45.660 And would this be one?

00:19:49.600 If you're going to pick a special case,

00:19:52.560 of all the reasons you could pick a special case,

00:19:56.640 the special case would be

00:19:57.800 if you think you're protecting your children.

00:20:00.500 Right?

00:20:01.040 Isn't that the ultimate special case?

00:20:03.380 Well, a deal's a deal.

00:20:06.280 Normally, normally I would not be in favor

00:20:08.880 of somebody grooming my child.

00:20:10.760 But a deal's a deal,

00:20:13.200 and I don't want to go back on a deal,

00:20:15.460 because it's a very important principle.

00:20:17.500 It holds society together.

00:20:19.640 No.

00:20:21.060 You're going to break any deal

00:20:22.420 if you think your child's well-being is at stake, right?

00:20:26.340 You'd break it immediately.

00:20:28.200 So I think I have some irrational connection to this

00:20:34.360 for this topic.

00:20:35.980 So if you and I disagree,

00:20:38.640 and you want to say,

00:20:39.400 Scott, you're being irrational,

00:20:41.620 here's where.

00:20:43.380 I'm being irrational in the deal's a deal.

00:20:45.140 That really bothered me.

00:20:46.620 I have to say,

00:20:48.020 strangely enough,

00:20:49.440 it really bothered me

00:20:50.280 that anybody would...

00:20:52.600 Now, let me say it another way.

00:20:54.320 It bothered me that the government

00:20:55.900 would break a deal.

00:20:57.460 That bothered me the most.

00:21:00.440 Now, if you say,

00:21:02.380 hey, the deal was made when it made sense,

00:21:04.500 but now time has gone by,

00:21:06.560 and Disney is doing so well

00:21:08.020 that they don't need that special deal.

00:21:11.320 Okay.

00:21:12.340 But I don't know if anybody did the analysis.

00:21:15.140 Did DeSantis do the analysis

00:21:17.140 and know that they really make money on this deal?

00:21:19.740 Does the state of Florida really come out ahead?

00:21:22.340 Because they're going to be paying

00:21:23.180 for the infrastructure now instead of Disney.

00:21:26.080 Do they?

00:21:26.860 I don't know.

00:21:27.680 Did anybody do that math?

00:21:29.800 All right.

00:21:30.120 Well, here are some of the answers

00:21:31.280 that I got when I asked people,

00:21:32.940 be specific.

00:21:33.560 What do you think DeSantis got

00:21:35.780 in terms of a benefit?

00:21:37.780 And here are the things that people answered,

00:21:39.420 and I want to show you

00:21:40.060 how sort of muddy people's thinking is.

00:21:44.560 Everybody who said he created a deterrence,

00:21:47.900 I think, is a clean thinker.

00:21:51.260 That's a clean answer.

00:21:52.580 You could disagree with it.

00:21:54.100 You could say,

00:21:54.900 I don't think it was enough of a deterrence

00:21:56.860 or something like that.

00:21:57.600 But it's a clean, specific answer.

00:22:00.180 That's a benefit.

00:22:02.660 Everybody would understand what that means.

00:22:05.140 And it could be explained in one word.

00:22:07.520 Deterrence.

00:22:08.400 So that's like a good, good answer.

00:22:10.880 Here are the other answers.

00:22:12.800 So these are people who maybe

00:22:14.700 are feeling something about the issue,

00:22:17.860 but the thinking process hasn't gelled yet.

00:22:21.480 People said that the benefit that DeSantis got

00:22:24.040 was it's a principle.

00:22:25.180 You know, he's upholding a principle.

00:22:28.040 He said obedience

00:22:28.940 keeps Disney out of politics,

00:22:33.420 but does it?

00:22:35.320 I don't know.

00:22:36.260 Will it keep anybody out of politics?

00:22:38.040 Because remember,

00:22:38.860 the left is pushing people to be in politics.

00:22:42.140 So corporations are going to be damned

00:22:44.640 if they do and damned if they don't.

00:22:47.720 I don't know.

00:22:48.480 It won't keep anybody out of politics,

00:22:50.100 but it might actually be a little deterrence.

00:22:52.000 Disney loses its monopoly power.

00:22:55.800 I don't even know what that means.

00:22:57.360 Something about losing their special control.

00:23:00.020 Some people were pointing out

00:23:03.400 that Disney should lose that deal anyway.

00:23:06.740 So it doesn't matter

00:23:08.260 that it's being used as a deterrence.

00:23:11.080 You should lose it anyway.

00:23:13.140 There's things like fairness and attention

00:23:14.960 and blah, blah, blah.

00:23:16.480 So I think the bottom line is

00:23:19.200 that we probably are closer

00:23:20.880 to agreeing on this than not.

00:23:25.560 Fox News asked some people

00:23:26.880 about Biden's accomplishments.

00:23:30.580 Before we do this,

00:23:32.760 let me tell you something

00:23:35.180 I wasn't sure if I was going to talk about today,

00:23:37.440 at least in this forum.

00:23:40.000 So last night,

00:23:41.700 I decided that I would see

00:23:44.500 if I could recreate an experience

00:23:46.320 that I had in my 20s.

00:23:49.120 And it was an experience with mushrooms.

00:23:51.980 And I've talked about it often,

00:23:54.100 and I said it was one of the most,

00:23:55.560 well, first of all,

00:23:56.240 it was one of the most enjoyable days

00:23:57.780 of my whole life.

00:23:59.180 I mean, just off the charts.

00:24:02.380 But secondly,

00:24:03.120 I said that I felt it changed me permanently

00:24:05.300 in a positive way.

00:24:07.040 And I wasn't sure

00:24:10.080 if I were to do it again

00:24:11.920 many years later

00:24:12.820 if I would feel the same.

00:24:15.320 Because I thought to myself,

00:24:16.620 what if,

00:24:17.780 what if the benefits

00:24:19.260 of the first experience

00:24:21.160 sort of settled in

00:24:23.220 and just became who I am?

00:24:25.240 Would I then be immune?

00:24:27.100 In other words,

00:24:28.440 would the experience

00:24:29.580 just try to make me

00:24:30.740 what I already was,

00:24:31.980 and I would just sit there saying,

00:24:33.640 I don't think anything's happening?

00:24:34.940 Or would I just have

00:24:38.120 another profound experience?

00:24:39.860 I had no idea.

00:24:41.320 So, first of all,

00:24:44.460 kids don't do drugs.

00:24:47.620 So you're going to get

00:24:49.020 a cautionary tale here.

00:24:51.160 If you think this is going to end

00:24:53.000 with a delightful story

00:24:56.140 of how much fun I had,

00:24:58.200 well, it didn't go that way.

00:24:59.900 It did not go that way.

00:25:01.840 Here's what I think happened.

00:25:03.360 But I'm not positive.

00:25:07.400 The specific form

00:25:09.080 was in chocolate.

00:25:10.700 It was an edible.

00:25:12.120 And it was sort of packaged

00:25:13.500 and professional-looking thing.

00:25:15.980 And I thought,

00:25:16.640 well, that's going to be safe.

00:25:18.100 Because I knew people

00:25:19.360 who had experienced

00:25:20.940 exactly the same product

00:25:22.180 from the same box,

00:25:23.960 literally.

00:25:24.940 And nobody had

00:25:27.080 an especially bad experience.

00:25:29.300 I think one mildly bad ones.

00:25:31.620 But basically,

00:25:33.400 so I knew this was

00:25:34.420 a relatively safe

00:25:36.800 kind of thing.

00:25:37.960 Relative to things

00:25:39.100 that are not safe.

00:25:40.000 It's not safe.

00:25:41.720 Let me be clear.

00:25:43.780 It's not safe.

00:25:45.680 It's just a little bit safer

00:25:47.520 than it could have been.

00:25:48.780 You know,

00:25:48.980 if you just found a mushroom

00:25:50.520 in the forest

00:25:51.100 and started chomping on it,

00:25:52.280 I guess that would be

00:25:52.800 the least safe.

00:25:54.500 And so,

00:25:55.640 you're contradicting yourself

00:25:57.960 all the time now.

00:25:59.500 What would be

00:25:59.900 an example of that?

00:26:01.820 All right.

00:26:04.020 So here was my experience.

00:26:06.300 I had no cognitive,

00:26:08.700 let's say,

00:26:10.660 psychedelic experience.

00:26:13.560 I took the low end

00:26:16.560 of the highest dose.

00:26:19.880 And I felt physically uncomfortable.

00:26:23.380 Like I couldn't sit down.

00:26:25.420 And I didn't want to be touched.

00:26:26.620 You know,

00:26:28.660 I just needed to be

00:26:29.940 standing and walking.

00:26:31.980 And a stomach ache.

00:26:35.240 Like a digestive problem

00:26:37.180 that was actually pretty bad.

00:26:40.320 So he says the dose was too low.

00:26:45.000 Well,

00:26:45.580 if the dose had been higher,

00:26:47.320 wouldn't have...

00:26:47.980 No,

00:26:48.360 I didn't have an empty stomach.

00:26:49.400 So I intentionally ate

00:26:51.780 ate beforehand.

00:26:53.780 Like right beforehand.

00:26:55.720 So here's the thing.

00:26:58.000 If you think that I had

00:26:59.700 a mushroom experience,

00:27:00.900 I disagree.

00:27:02.040 Because having experienced it once,

00:27:05.180 I can tell you that

00:27:06.420 this wasn't it.

00:27:08.260 So I don't believe

00:27:09.480 this was actually

00:27:10.960 actually mushrooms.

00:27:13.640 I think...

00:27:14.280 And I did a little googling

00:27:15.740 to find out.

00:27:16.520 Sure enough,

00:27:17.900 there are counterfeit...

00:27:18.940 There are counterfeit

00:27:20.800 mushroom chocolate products.

00:27:22.680 Now,

00:27:22.920 I don't know if I had one.

00:27:24.480 But I do know that

00:27:25.380 I know what it should have felt like.

00:27:27.780 And it wasn't...

00:27:28.720 It wasn't like

00:27:30.040 a small version of that.

00:27:32.560 It was nothing.

00:27:34.500 So there wasn't

00:27:35.520 any psychological effect.

00:27:38.360 Except that I was uncomfortable...

00:27:40.400 I was uncomfortable

00:27:41.280 with my physical feeling,

00:27:43.620 which I guess

00:27:44.160 had a mental effect.

00:27:45.200 But there wasn't

00:27:46.360 any cognitive change.

00:27:47.700 It just made me

00:27:48.400 unbalanced.

00:27:52.020 And it felt like

00:27:53.300 a stimulant, actually.

00:27:55.460 If I had to guess,

00:27:57.280 I would say a stimulant.

00:28:01.940 And I don't think

00:28:02.800 mushrooms ever act like that.

00:28:04.300 Are they?

00:28:07.200 No, I wouldn't do that alone.

00:28:10.020 So, you know,

00:28:10.720 I was in a safe environment.

00:28:12.380 Blah, blah, blah.

00:28:12.800 Yeah.

00:28:15.520 So,

00:28:16.640 did I have any memories

00:28:18.180 from the old types?

00:28:18.820 Yeah, I have a very specific memory

00:28:20.940 of the first time.

00:28:22.200 And I can tell you

00:28:22.980 that was dramatic.

00:28:24.800 The experience

00:28:26.320 is not subtle.

00:28:31.500 So here's my only warning.

00:28:34.360 The toughest thing

00:28:35.380 with anything in this category

00:28:37.220 is you don't know

00:28:37.780 what you're getting.

00:28:38.860 That's the problem.

00:28:39.740 Fentanyl.

00:28:40.940 Yeah.

00:28:41.520 Somebody said fentanyl.

00:28:42.960 And I actually,

00:28:43.980 that's one of my suspicions.

00:28:46.020 I have a suspicion

00:28:47.100 that it was

00:28:48.460 something that would make you

00:28:50.700 feel like you wanted

00:28:51.800 to do it again.

00:28:53.000 Yeah, I'm actually wondering

00:28:54.300 if the only people

00:28:55.900 who would do it twice

00:28:56.720 are people who would never

00:28:57.600 experience the real thing.

00:28:59.680 Because if you experience

00:29:00.900 the real thing,

00:29:01.740 I don't think you would

00:29:02.440 do this again.

00:29:03.820 But if you hadn't,

00:29:04.960 you might say to yourself,

00:29:05.840 oh, I got some,

00:29:07.940 basically intoxication

00:29:09.620 was out.

00:29:10.660 I would describe it

00:29:12.000 as intoxication

00:29:13.180 and stimulation

00:29:15.000 at the same time.

00:29:16.140 It was a bad combo.

00:29:20.900 Somebody says

00:29:21.540 the dose was too low.

00:29:23.840 Well,

00:29:25.220 that's the problem

00:29:26.540 is you don't know

00:29:27.120 what the dose should be.

00:29:28.440 I mean,

00:29:28.700 if you followed

00:29:29.160 the directions,

00:29:30.720 it was on the high end.

00:29:31.720 But I did expect

00:29:34.260 I did expect

00:29:35.400 that there would be

00:29:35.860 like some

00:29:36.660 some effect.

00:29:38.300 There really wasn't any.

00:29:41.180 Anyway.

00:29:43.480 Fox News asked

00:29:44.580 about Biden's accomplishments.

00:29:47.220 And so

00:29:47.780 if I act a little

00:29:48.660 loopy today,

00:29:49.800 I've got like

00:29:50.540 two hours of sleep.

00:29:52.360 So I'm probably

00:29:53.360 going to go to sleep

00:29:54.180 as soon as this is done.

00:29:56.300 People asked

00:29:57.060 about Biden's accomplishments.

00:29:59.200 And it's funny

00:29:59.700 because if you see

00:30:00.620 the professionals

00:30:01.620 Democrats

00:30:02.760 answer the question

00:30:03.740 of what has Biden done,

00:30:05.660 usually they go

00:30:06.420 to infrastructure.

00:30:07.600 Oh,

00:30:07.780 we got the infrastructure

00:30:08.600 bill passed.

00:30:10.340 But the

00:30:11.060 the public at large

00:30:12.500 doesn't even know

00:30:13.080 what that is.

00:30:15.240 So

00:30:15.720 Biden's biggest

00:30:16.860 accomplishment

00:30:17.480 is something

00:30:18.180 that literally

00:30:18.920 95%

00:30:20.680 of his base

00:30:21.700 doesn't

00:30:23.760 know about.

00:30:24.880 It's just

00:30:25.340 he passed a budget.

00:30:27.160 It just sounds

00:30:27.680 like he passed

00:30:28.180 a budget.

00:30:29.440 Like it literally

00:30:30.140 sounds like

00:30:30.720 the most nothing

00:30:31.400 that anything

00:30:31.840 could sound

00:30:32.220 like.

00:30:33.040 Hey,

00:30:33.600 he passed

00:30:34.620 a budget

00:30:35.000 for infrastructure.

00:30:37.380 Okay.

00:30:39.080 Don't they

00:30:39.740 all do that?

00:30:41.240 Doesn't

00:30:41.760 every government

00:30:42.520 pass a budget

00:30:43.980 for infrastructure?

00:30:45.540 No,

00:30:46.040 this is like

00:30:46.440 extra.

00:30:48.800 That's it.

00:30:50.440 There's a little

00:30:50.880 extra big

00:30:51.540 on the budget

00:30:52.140 for the infrastructure

00:30:53.000 which is basically

00:30:53.860 your normal job.

00:30:55.180 That's it.

00:30:55.740 And even people

00:30:57.060 don't know

00:30:57.440 that.

00:30:59.080 So

00:30:59.480 people say

00:31:00.960 stuff like

00:31:01.640 well,

00:31:02.860 you know,

00:31:03.060 he's the

00:31:03.500 we brought

00:31:04.340 back the

00:31:05.040 calm,

00:31:06.180 sober

00:31:06.400 leadership.

00:31:08.920 And

00:31:09.520 what did

00:31:10.340 that get you?

00:31:11.900 How's that

00:31:12.500 calm,

00:31:13.220 sober

00:31:13.460 leadership

00:31:14.160 working out?

00:31:15.320 And

00:31:18.760 but the

00:31:19.360 funniest thing

00:31:19.840 is I saw

00:31:20.740 Fox News

00:31:21.300 mocking a

00:31:22.060 Washington Post

00:31:22.720 editorial

00:31:24.700 in which the

00:31:25.880 writer was

00:31:26.300 saying they

00:31:26.700 couldn't

00:31:26.960 understand

00:31:27.540 why Biden

00:31:28.940 isn't being

00:31:30.840 more popular

00:31:31.680 and successful.

00:31:34.760 And I'm

00:31:35.420 thinking

00:31:35.700 I have a

00:31:38.220 few ideas

00:31:39.140 I can throw

00:31:40.140 into the mix.

00:31:40.760 I don't

00:31:42.200 feel like

00:31:42.600 it's that

00:31:42.940 complicated

00:31:43.460 at all,

00:31:44.580 honestly.

00:31:46.180 All right.

00:31:47.820 This old

00:31:48.640 Johnny Depp

00:31:49.260 story with

00:31:50.120 so he's

00:31:51.440 suing a

00:31:52.240 $50 million

00:31:53.040 lawsuit against

00:31:54.040 Amber Heard,

00:31:54.880 his ex,

00:31:56.020 because she

00:31:56.700 wrote some

00:31:57.080 article that

00:31:57.640 claimed he

00:31:58.120 was an

00:31:58.500 abuser.

00:32:00.080 And now

00:32:00.400 he's suing

00:32:01.040 and seems

00:32:02.440 to have

00:32:02.800 proven with

00:32:03.780 audio tapes

00:32:04.540 anyway that

00:32:05.760 she was the

00:32:06.280 abuser.

00:32:07.320 So not only

00:32:07.900 was she the

00:32:08.600 abuser but

00:32:10.300 but she

00:32:12.560 accused him

00:32:13.100 of being

00:32:13.400 the abuser

00:32:13.820 and ruined

00:32:14.220 his life

00:32:15.220 basically in

00:32:15.880 his career.

00:32:17.380 And here's

00:32:18.240 the thing

00:32:18.580 that I

00:32:19.380 love about

00:32:19.860 this.

00:32:23.980 There are

00:32:24.580 a lot of

00:32:24.940 people learning

00:32:25.560 that Amber

00:32:27.640 Heard exists

00:32:28.600 and that she

00:32:29.780 has a certain

00:32:30.400 set of

00:32:31.200 personality traits

00:32:32.320 and I

00:32:34.000 believe that

00:32:34.520 there are

00:32:34.840 people,

00:32:35.560 let me ask

00:32:36.200 you,

00:32:36.920 how many

00:32:37.340 people are

00:32:37.760 familiar with

00:32:38.300 the Johnny

00:32:39.440 Depp Amber

00:32:39.960 Heard

00:32:40.140 story?

00:32:40.300 story and

00:32:40.940 you said

00:32:42.040 to yourself,

00:32:42.960 oh my

00:32:43.860 God, I

00:32:44.440 know Amber

00:32:45.060 Heard.

00:32:45.520 It might

00:32:45.780 be a male

00:32:46.340 Amber Heard

00:32:47.020 or a female 0.79

00:32:47.560 Amber Heard,

00:32:48.540 so gender

00:32:49.280 doesn't matter

00:32:49.880 but is

00:32:52.300 there anybody

00:32:52.700 who, look

00:32:54.100 at the

00:32:54.440 comments,

00:32:55.900 so many

00:32:56.680 of you

00:32:57.160 have met

00:32:58.140 her or

00:32:59.580 one like

00:33:00.120 her and

00:33:01.380 here's the

00:33:01.860 thing that

00:33:02.320 you probably

00:33:02.940 thought.

00:33:05.040 It can't

00:33:05.780 be two of

00:33:06.220 those,

00:33:07.560 right?

00:33:08.020 How many

00:33:09.480 of you

00:33:09.720 had that

00:33:10.080 experience

00:33:10.580 and just

00:33:10.960 said to

00:33:11.220 yourself,

00:33:11.600 there's no

00:33:12.000 way there

00:33:12.340 are two

00:33:12.640 of these?

00:33:13.840 Like, I

00:33:14.200 don't know

00:33:14.420 what I

00:33:14.700 experience

00:33:15.100 here, but

00:33:16.420 I can tell

00:33:16.980 you one

00:33:17.280 thing, there

00:33:18.460 can't be

00:33:18.820 two of

00:33:19.160 these.

00:33:21.860 There are a

00:33:22.440 lot of

00:33:22.740 them.

00:33:24.260 If you look

00:33:24.940 at the

00:33:25.160 comments, it's

00:33:26.000 just filled

00:33:26.440 with people

00:33:26.880 saying, yes,

00:33:27.520 my ex, my

00:33:28.120 blah, blah,

00:33:28.460 blah.

00:33:28.760 Now, it's

00:33:29.260 men and

00:33:29.720 women, right? 1.00

00:33:30.340 So, it's

00:33:30.960 not a gender

00:33:31.460 thing.

00:33:32.580 It's a

00:33:34.080 personality

00:33:34.600 thing.

00:33:35.780 If you

00:33:36.700 look at

00:33:37.020 the specific

00:33:38.020 things that

00:33:38.800 Amber Heard

00:33:39.380 is accused

00:33:39.880 of, and

00:33:41.500 since I'm

00:33:42.180 not a

00:33:42.900 doctor, I

00:33:44.700 cannot give

00:33:45.240 you a 0.57

00:33:45.500 diagnosis.

00:33:46.860 I will

00:33:47.160 simply make

00:33:47.700 an observation.

00:33:49.300 If you

00:33:49.920 were to

00:33:50.180 make a

00:33:50.520 list of

00:33:51.000 all the

00:33:51.300 things that

00:33:51.900 describe a

00:33:53.040 vulnerable

00:33:53.940 narcissist, and

00:33:55.440 I think

00:33:55.660 there are

00:33:55.920 some other

00:33:56.260 things like

00:33:56.940 some

00:33:58.940 personality

00:33:59.400 disorders that

00:34:00.220 also overlap,

00:34:00.940 but if

00:34:01.640 you just

00:34:01.900 made a

00:34:02.200 list of

00:34:02.500 all the

00:34:02.740 things they

00:34:03.120 do, Amber

00:34:05.100 Heard checks

00:34:05.580 off all the

00:34:06.100 lists, and

00:34:07.260 one of the

00:34:07.640 weirdest ones

00:34:08.380 is that

00:34:08.780 projection thing,

00:34:10.380 where they

00:34:11.200 blame you, even

00:34:12.140 in public, in

00:34:12.820 this case, of

00:34:13.820 doing the crime

00:34:14.600 that only they

00:34:15.200 were doing.

00:34:16.460 That's the

00:34:17.100 weirdest part,

00:34:18.780 blaming you of

00:34:19.440 a crime that

00:34:20.200 only they are

00:34:21.160 doing.

00:34:22.380 Like, that one

00:34:22.920 you don't think

00:34:23.600 could happen with

00:34:24.360 more than one

00:34:24.920 person, but it

00:34:26.760 does.

00:34:28.140 So, here's the

00:34:29.620 thing you need

00:34:30.040 to know.

00:34:31.320 Amber Heard is

00:34:33.280 genetically a

00:34:34.160 human being.

00:34:35.520 You know, if

00:34:35.780 you checked her

00:34:36.280 DNA, it would

00:34:36.880 be human.

00:34:38.340 But if you

00:34:39.460 treat her like 0.99

00:34:40.080 a human, and

00:34:43.180 assume that she 0.52

00:34:43.860 will act like a

00:34:44.540 human, she will 0.96

00:34:46.200 destroy you. 0.94

00:34:47.560 One of the

00:34:48.060 things that

00:34:48.460 Johnny Depp

00:34:48.960 said that just

00:34:51.000 really blew my

00:34:52.220 mind was he

00:34:54.440 said that

00:34:54.920 something like

00:34:55.460 he thought that

00:34:56.080 she'd been put

00:34:56.620 there to take

00:34:58.080 take everything

00:34:58.800 from him.

00:35:00.300 Like she was

00:35:01.120 just an evil

00:35:01.780 force who

00:35:03.480 wasn't being

00:35:04.280 selfishly evil,

00:35:06.760 but rather just

00:35:07.380 evil.

00:35:08.680 It was like she

00:35:09.660 didn't have

00:35:10.080 anything to

00:35:10.660 gain.

00:35:11.600 It was just

00:35:12.280 evil.

00:35:13.300 And so I think

00:35:13.840 that's what he

00:35:14.320 was responding to.

00:35:15.160 It was like, I

00:35:16.080 don't even see

00:35:16.660 what was in it

00:35:17.220 for her.

00:35:17.980 Like, it just

00:35:19.140 looked evil.

00:35:19.680 And if you've

00:35:23.200 had experience

00:35:23.800 with one person

00:35:24.800 like this in

00:35:25.380 your life, and

00:35:25.980 so many of you

00:35:26.580 have, I can see

00:35:27.200 in the comments,

00:35:28.740 just know that

00:35:29.540 that wasn't one.

00:35:31.840 Now, do you

00:35:32.420 know what the

00:35:32.880 solution is that

00:35:33.940 the experts say

00:35:34.800 if you run into

00:35:35.580 one of these

00:35:36.120 people?

00:35:38.780 I'm just going

00:35:39.380 to say one of

00:35:39.800 these people.

00:35:40.240 And again, I'm

00:35:41.140 not going to

00:35:41.560 label it as

00:35:43.360 vulnerable

00:35:43.860 narcissism as

00:35:44.940 if I could

00:35:45.480 diagnose it,

00:35:46.480 because you

00:35:46.780 need a doctor

00:35:47.420 to diagnose.

00:35:48.620 I'm just going

00:35:49.340 to say that

00:35:49.880 there's a very

00:35:50.720 clear checklist

00:35:51.660 of behaviors,

00:35:53.080 and that she

00:35:54.060 hits them all.

00:35:55.540 Right down

00:35:56.060 the list.

00:35:56.440 Boop.

00:35:57.460 And that's

00:35:58.640 all I can say.

00:35:59.440 If you meet

00:36:00.380 somebody who

00:36:00.940 fits the

00:36:01.540 checklist,

00:36:02.860 what would

00:36:03.280 the checklist

00:36:03.740 be?

00:36:04.160 It would be

00:36:04.520 like the

00:36:05.300 emotional

00:36:05.720 outbursts.

00:36:06.940 Here's the

00:36:07.960 most incredible

00:36:08.640 part, is that

00:36:10.760 they'll minimize

00:36:11.620 their awfulness

00:36:12.860 like it's no

00:36:13.500 big deal.

00:36:14.640 When you hear

00:36:15.120 her on the

00:36:15.420 audio tapes,

00:36:16.540 like she was

00:36:17.040 throwing things

00:36:17.860 and basically

00:36:18.360 physically abusing

00:36:19.320 him, and he

00:36:20.020 was literally

00:36:20.440 hiding, and

00:36:21.780 she treated it

00:36:22.440 like he was a

00:36:23.060 huge pussy, and 1.00

00:36:23.820 it was no big

00:36:24.360 deal, and he

00:36:24.960 should man up.

00:36:27.920 That's like you

00:36:28.520 almost can't even

00:36:29.080 believe it.

00:36:29.800 It's like

00:36:30.100 unbelievable, but

00:36:30.900 that's on the

00:36:31.340 checklist.

00:36:34.220 You'd expect

00:36:34.900 that one.

00:36:35.920 The having

00:36:37.320 affairs, the

00:36:38.600 projection, it's

00:36:41.980 just all there.

00:36:43.540 So this

00:36:44.720 seemed like a

00:36:45.320 small story, but

00:36:46.100 I think it's a

00:36:46.540 big story.

00:36:47.140 Here's the thing

00:36:47.660 you need to

00:36:48.120 learn.

00:36:49.320 The experts

00:36:49.900 give you one

00:36:50.620 recommendation if

00:36:51.640 you accidentally

00:36:52.320 get into a

00:36:53.060 relationship with

00:36:53.880 such a person.

00:36:55.240 Do you know

00:36:55.480 what that one 0.87

00:36:57.100 piece of advice

00:36:57.780 is?

00:36:58.100 And it's all

00:36:58.620 the same.

00:36:59.480 No expert,

00:37:00.420 there's nobody

00:37:01.000 who disagrees.

00:37:02.680 Run, right?

00:37:03.840 Because if you

00:37:05.460 imagine that

00:37:06.160 they're like

00:37:06.540 people, they

00:37:08.120 are humans, but

00:37:09.680 if you imagine

00:37:10.500 they act like a

00:37:11.420 person, then

00:37:13.400 you'll just be

00:37:13.960 destroyed.

00:37:14.440 because they're

00:37:15.520 not there to

00:37:16.100 act like a

00:37:16.560 person.

00:37:16.940 They're there to

00:37:17.380 destroy you. 0.94

00:37:18.680 And once you

00:37:19.500 get destroyed, 0.98

00:37:20.880 they'll move to

00:37:21.440 the next person

00:37:22.060 and destroy 0.82

00:37:22.560 them.

00:37:23.420 They don't

00:37:23.680 stop destroying.

00:37:25.100 They just keep

00:37:26.120 destroying.

00:37:27.660 So just run.

00:37:30.900 And so I

00:37:33.220 think Johnny

00:37:33.780 Depp has done

00:37:36.380 a national

00:37:37.020 service of

00:37:38.120 extraordinary value

00:37:39.280 if we come to

00:37:41.340 see it this way.

00:37:41.980 If we can see

00:37:43.500 what he's telling

00:37:44.200 us, he's

00:37:45.880 teaching us to

00:37:46.740 run.

00:37:48.240 He's telling us

00:37:49.160 what to look

00:37:49.760 for, and he's

00:37:51.660 saying run, if

00:37:53.100 you see it.

00:37:53.780 I mean, that's

00:37:54.140 how I interpret

00:37:55.340 the story.

00:37:56.500 Now, of course,

00:37:57.480 he probably has a

00:37:58.720 gigantic personal

00:37:59.620 stake in this.

00:38:00.500 He's trying to,

00:38:01.600 you know, suing

00:38:02.600 for $50 million

00:38:03.440 doesn't make any

00:38:04.860 sense because I

00:38:05.640 don't think she

00:38:06.220 has $50 million.

00:38:06.940 But I feel

00:38:11.040 like he's, it

00:38:12.760 feels more like

00:38:13.440 he's doing it

00:38:13.940 for us, doesn't

00:38:15.200 it?

00:38:16.180 I'm not even

00:38:17.000 sure, I'm not

00:38:19.720 even sure that

00:38:20.380 Johnny Depp

00:38:21.020 thinks he'll get

00:38:21.680 anything personally

00:38:22.460 out of this

00:38:22.960 except the

00:38:25.200 satisfaction of,

00:38:26.300 you know, the

00:38:26.780 truth, I guess.

00:38:29.120 All right.

00:38:31.300 Speaking of the

00:38:32.100 truth, so

00:38:34.440 truth social now

00:38:35.480 is on the rumble

00:38:36.300 cloud, I guess,

00:38:37.640 and people are

00:38:38.320 being brought on

00:38:39.300 on greater numbers.

00:38:40.600 So some of the

00:38:41.200 technical problems

00:38:42.000 seem to be

00:38:42.700 perhaps resolved.

00:38:45.440 But I saw, I'm

00:38:47.900 seeing some

00:38:48.380 activism now to

00:38:50.080 ask the Apple

00:38:50.920 store, the app

00:38:51.840 store, to drop

00:38:52.580 the app, which

00:38:53.900 basically puts you

00:38:55.080 in a business.

00:38:56.640 You know, I mean,

00:38:57.120 you could still

00:38:58.280 have the platform,

00:38:59.280 but if you don't

00:38:59.720 have the Apple

00:39:00.440 app, you're not

00:39:03.280 going to thrive.

00:39:04.020 So how do you

00:39:07.160 succeed when

00:39:08.040 Apple can just

00:39:08.860 say, okay, you're

00:39:11.160 gone?

00:39:12.560 And what would it

00:39:13.420 take?

00:39:13.700 It wouldn't take

00:39:14.120 anything.

00:39:14.720 All they'd have to

00:39:15.300 do is say, um,

00:39:16.760 looks like you got

00:39:17.480 a bunch of right

00:39:18.100 wing extremists on

00:39:19.060 there, you're done.

00:39:21.020 Right?

00:39:22.300 And won't there be

00:39:23.480 a lot of right

00:39:24.080 wing extremists on

00:39:25.080 there?

00:39:27.420 I would think.

00:39:29.980 You know,

00:39:30.340 probably some.

00:39:31.460 So it seems to

00:39:33.100 me that Apple

00:39:34.260 has every ability

00:39:35.320 to just delete

00:39:36.600 them whenever

00:39:37.680 they want.

00:39:38.320 So how exactly

00:39:40.120 do you succeed

00:39:40.840 that way?

00:39:42.380 I mean, I guess

00:39:43.060 you don't know

00:39:43.840 until you have

00:39:44.280 the fight, and

00:39:45.460 so that's the

00:39:46.360 risk of an

00:39:46.820 entrepreneur, is

00:39:47.460 you've got to

00:39:47.700 take that fight.

00:39:49.060 But that's a

00:39:49.960 pretty big risk.

00:39:51.720 Now, here's my

00:39:52.580 take on Trump

00:39:55.600 running for 2024.

00:39:57.540 Number one, I

00:39:58.620 think he could

00:39:59.100 win.

00:39:59.440 And probably

00:40:02.400 would be the,

00:40:04.920 yeah, I think

00:40:05.340 he could win.

00:40:06.920 So, and I

00:40:08.180 think that if he

00:40:08.800 gets in, he'd

00:40:10.360 probably win.

00:40:11.620 But here's the

00:40:12.300 problem.

00:40:13.520 Given that

00:40:14.220 January 6th was

00:40:15.880 such a black 1.00

00:40:16.580 eye to the

00:40:17.240 Republicans, and

00:40:19.420 a Trump

00:40:19.980 administration

00:40:20.560 would be

00:40:20.960 looking to

00:40:21.580 staff up with

00:40:22.940 Republicans, how

00:40:24.700 could he

00:40:24.980 possibly staff

00:40:25.820 up?

00:40:26.120 like, how

00:40:27.940 could a

00:40:28.360 Trump 2024

00:40:29.320 victory, how

00:40:31.120 could he

00:40:31.520 attract a

00:40:32.620 talent pool

00:40:33.220 when he's

00:40:35.000 suffering under

00:40:35.540 that January

00:40:36.140 6th brainwashing

00:40:37.380 thing that was

00:40:38.580 really effective?

00:40:40.280 You know, half 0.99

00:40:40.760 of the country

00:40:41.240 thinks that he's

00:40:42.860 a traitor, and 0.59

00:40:44.780 even if he wins,

00:40:45.680 because, you know,

00:40:46.160 he gets enough

00:40:46.640 votes from his

00:40:47.240 own people,

00:40:47.680 I feel like

00:40:54.500 people would be

00:40:55.800 afraid to

00:40:56.420 associate, because

00:40:58.020 it would feel

00:40:58.520 like, oh, another

00:40:59.580 one joins the

00:41:00.440 traitors party or

00:41:01.480 something.

00:41:03.240 I mean, it was

00:41:03.660 bad enough when he

00:41:04.460 was only being

00:41:05.100 called a racist,

00:41:06.520 which, by the

00:41:07.040 way, stopped

00:41:07.520 happening.

00:41:08.180 Have you noticed

00:41:08.620 that?

00:41:09.400 As soon as they

00:41:10.020 had this new

00:41:10.540 thing, Trump

00:41:12.480 stopped being a

00:41:13.140 racist.

00:41:14.040 It just hasn't

00:41:14.520 come up.

00:41:16.500 Doesn't matter

00:41:17.140 anymore, I

00:41:17.740 guess, as if

00:41:19.340 it were ever

00:41:19.780 true in any

00:41:21.280 meaningful way.

00:41:24.640 He needs to

00:41:25.360 make a point of

00:41:26.000 destroying the

00:41:26.440 FBI.

00:41:27.060 Well, I think

00:41:27.940 that this is

00:41:28.560 the kill shot.

00:41:32.600 You have to

00:41:33.360 ask yourself how

00:41:34.220 he would staff

00:41:34.900 up, and to

00:41:35.920 me, I don't

00:41:36.400 know the answer

00:41:36.920 to it.

00:41:37.500 Do you?

00:41:39.000 Can you think

00:41:40.260 of how he

00:41:41.600 could accomplish

00:41:42.140 that?

00:41:43.100 Or do you

00:41:43.740 think people

00:41:44.340 would just say,

00:41:44.880 oh, it's a

00:41:45.360 good job, I'll

00:41:45.940 take it?

00:41:46.380 Because that

00:41:47.060 didn't happen

00:41:47.520 the first

00:41:47.920 term.

00:41:48.860 The first

00:41:49.460 term, there

00:41:49.840 were a lot

00:41:50.220 of people who

00:41:51.020 didn't want a

00:41:53.000 job in that

00:41:53.540 administration.

00:41:55.300 It feels like it

00:41:56.220 would be twice as

00:41:56.920 hard in the

00:41:57.340 second term.

00:41:58.200 Because even

00:41:58.800 if there were a

00:42:00.180 lot of people

00:42:00.540 who agreed with

00:42:01.160 Trump so they

00:42:01.840 were willing to

00:42:02.380 work with him,

00:42:03.540 even those same

00:42:04.400 people don't

00:42:04.940 agree with him

00:42:05.600 about January

00:42:06.500 6th in most

00:42:07.480 cases.

00:42:11.840 Well, you're

00:42:12.620 always going to

00:42:13.060 get somebody to

00:42:13.940 apply.

00:42:14.320 I'm not saying

00:42:15.320 that there

00:42:15.780 wouldn't be

00:42:16.100 any applicants.

00:42:17.460 I'm saying

00:42:17.920 that you're

00:42:18.500 not going to

00:42:18.860 get the top

00:42:20.940 cream of the

00:42:21.540 crop.

00:42:22.040 That's a

00:42:22.340 problem, isn't

00:42:22.860 it?

00:42:23.780 Now, what

00:42:24.280 about DeSantis?

00:42:25.920 DeSantis

00:42:26.560 could.

00:42:28.660 Right?

00:42:29.480 Because DeSantis

00:42:30.160 is actually

00:42:30.920 developing a

00:42:32.020 almost bulletproof,

00:42:35.820 really it is

00:42:36.520 bulletproof.

00:42:36.900 I think DeSantis

00:42:38.020 has the best

00:42:39.700 bulletproof set

00:42:42.000 of conservative

00:42:43.160 policies and

00:42:44.320 actions that

00:42:45.660 I've seen.

00:42:46.740 It looks pretty

00:42:47.560 solid.

00:42:48.880 So, as much

00:42:52.880 as I like a

00:42:54.060 lot of what

00:42:54.700 Trump has done

00:42:55.900 and could do,

00:42:57.440 you'd have to

00:42:58.180 ask yourself if

00:43:00.340 DeSantis would

00:43:01.120 be more of a

00:43:01.880 Trump than

00:43:02.300 Trump.

00:43:02.620 it's a fair

00:43:04.840 question.

00:43:07.320 So,

00:43:09.400 by the way,

00:43:14.800 does anybody

00:43:15.220 disagree with

00:43:16.280 me about

00:43:18.060 the staffing

00:43:18.760 thing?

00:43:19.360 I get that

00:43:20.120 he could staff

00:43:21.580 up somehow.

00:43:25.020 I've got a

00:43:25.940 little disagreement

00:43:26.660 there, a lot

00:43:27.500 of disagreement.

00:43:29.220 Yeah.

00:43:29.700 I mean, we

00:43:30.100 don't really

00:43:30.460 know.

00:43:30.820 It's just one

00:43:31.260 of those

00:43:31.500 factors.

00:43:32.620 Disagree?

00:43:35.020 No?

00:43:35.600 Okay.

00:43:36.560 All right.

00:43:37.140 Ladies and 0.98

00:43:37.560 gentlemen,

00:43:38.980 normally, when

00:43:40.960 it's a faster

00:43:41.960 news day, or

00:43:43.600 there's more

00:43:43.940 news, I would

00:43:45.500 stay on here

00:43:46.020 longer.

00:43:47.340 But, oh,

00:43:48.120 we've got 45

00:43:48.880 minutes.

00:43:49.240 That's pretty

00:43:49.580 good.

00:43:50.500 And you

00:43:54.700 prefer

00:43:55.080 Schellenberger.

00:43:56.900 You know,

00:43:57.500 maybe Schellenberger

00:43:58.300 will be president

00:43:58.980 someday.

00:43:59.800 He's got to

00:44:00.220 make it as

00:44:01.140 governor first

00:44:01.900 of California.

00:44:03.340 And by the

00:44:03.680 way, I

00:44:04.080 haven't heard

00:44:04.460 anybody who's

00:44:05.200 looked at his

00:44:05.940 platform.

00:44:08.140 This is Michael

00:44:08.720 Schellenberger running

00:44:09.620 as an independent

00:44:10.500 for governor of

00:44:11.820 California.

00:44:13.260 And what's

00:44:13.980 different is he's

00:44:14.560 bringing very

00:44:15.000 specific plans.

00:44:17.340 He's written books

00:44:17.900 about it,

00:44:18.380 researched it.

00:44:19.400 So he's the

00:44:19.960 most qualified in

00:44:21.460 terms of knowing

00:44:22.120 how to fix these

00:44:23.420 specific problems.

00:44:25.360 And I'd love to

00:44:26.080 see if that model

00:44:26.820 ever catches on.

00:44:27.760 Like, if he

00:44:29.200 wins, think of

00:44:31.540 the precedent.

00:44:33.380 Imagine the

00:44:34.120 precedent if

00:44:36.300 Michael Schellenberger

00:44:37.220 wins.

00:44:38.460 First precedent

00:44:39.400 is that, you know,

00:44:41.740 an independent can

00:44:42.660 win.

00:44:43.400 I mean, Jesse

00:44:43.880 Ventura did, but

00:44:44.880 I think that was a

00:44:45.680 special case.

00:44:47.160 So it's unusual.

00:44:48.400 I mean, they can.

00:44:49.440 They can do it, but

00:44:50.440 it's unusual.

00:44:50.880 So it would make

00:44:53.080 that more likely.

00:44:53.920 That might be good.

00:44:55.220 But it would also

00:44:55.900 make the idea of

00:44:58.260 capable leadership

00:45:00.240 based on knowing

00:45:01.760 how to get things

00:45:02.480 done and, you

00:45:03.640 know, really

00:45:04.280 researching and

00:45:05.000 stuff.

00:45:05.480 It might make

00:45:06.060 that a thing.

00:45:07.640 What if that

00:45:08.220 becomes a thing?

00:45:09.160 Wouldn't that be

00:45:09.640 good?

00:45:18.020 Yeah.

00:45:19.420 I want to just,

00:45:20.420 I saw a comment

00:45:21.040 on locals.

00:45:22.180 I'm pretty sure

00:45:23.120 that I did not

00:45:23.880 have a bad

00:45:24.760 mushroom trip.

00:45:26.200 What I had was

00:45:27.160 something that

00:45:27.600 probably wasn't

00:45:28.320 mushrooms.

00:45:29.740 That's what I

00:45:30.440 think happened.

00:45:32.120 So if you're

00:45:33.200 thinking that I

00:45:33.980 had a bad trip,

00:45:34.760 I don't think I

00:45:35.260 did.

00:45:36.060 I just had a bad

00:45:36.820 experience with

00:45:37.560 something that

00:45:38.100 probably wasn't

00:45:38.840 what I thought it

00:45:39.400 was.

00:45:41.100 All right.

00:45:45.800 There's a

00:45:46.380 Rasmussen poll

00:45:47.400 about, really?

00:45:48.920 Or you think

00:45:51.440 there should be

00:45:51.980 one?

00:45:57.660 It was a

00:45:58.400 deliriant.

00:45:59.700 I don't know

00:46:00.040 what that means

00:46:00.820 exactly.

00:46:02.240 All right.

00:46:02.600 That's all for

00:46:03.000 now.

00:46:03.500 And I'll hit

00:46:04.020 decaf.

00:46:05.320 They're decaf

00:46:06.220 mushrooms.

00:46:07.040 All right.

00:46:08.200 We talked

00:46:08.820 about Elon's

00:46:09.460 tweet about Bill

00:46:10.040 Gates yesterday.

00:46:14.860 All right.

00:46:16.680 That's it for now.

00:46:17.280 I'll talk to you

00:46:17.860 tomorrow.

00:46:18.080 Thank you.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 24, 2022

Episode 1723 Scott Adams： Who Wins And Who Lose In The Florida Battle Between Disney And DeSantis？

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