Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 24, 2022


Episode 1723 Scott Adams： Who Wins And Who Lose In The Florida Battle Between Disney And DeSantis？


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

144.16359

Word Count

6,747

Sentence Count

538

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has a new deal with Disney, and it s bad for the state, but what does that mean for the rest of the country? And why does it have to do with all the other stuff that goes on in Florida?


Transcript

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00:00:40.160 You can watch a movie and feel emotions even though it's not real. Compliments work just like that. Hey, that compliment isn't real. Feels good. Feels good. Why does it feel just like a real one? Because it doesn't matter if it's real. Your brain processes it just like it's real. Within limits. You have to be able to convince yourself that it's real-ish.
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00:01:37.220 Oh, I've just been welcomed to someone else's simulation.
00:01:46.700 What if our dreams are the real world and this is the simulation? Whoa. Whoa. Okay, that wasn't very deep. But we're going deep.
00:01:57.080 So, this Disney and DeSantis thing is way more interesting than it should be. Meaning that I started out thinking it was sort of a thin story. There wasn't much to it. But there's really a lot of interesting elements to it. And I don't know they're fully appreciated. So let's talk about that.
00:02:19.220 So, just an update. If you don't know, Disney years ago in the 60s negotiated a deal with the state of Florida where they would have some autonomy in a certain part of the state that they owned. So it was their own property.
00:02:35.560 And they could put in their own city services. Water, sewage, roads, stuff like that. As well as other powers. But that's mainly what they wanted to do was take care of the infrastructure.
00:02:49.220 And I guess they got tax breaks or no taxes or something like that. And in return, they built the Disney properties. And the state would benefit from the people coming in and having a big business where there had been nothing but, you know, unused land before.
00:03:08.060 And then Disney would benefit from the, you know, the efficiency and the tax breaks.
00:03:13.600 And that was a good idea until Disney opened its mouth about the poorly labeled, don't say gay law that really wasn't about that.
00:03:22.880 It was more about not having teachers teach little kids things about sexuality.
00:03:30.220 And, or even things about gender identity, stuff like that. So that was the basic idea.
00:03:39.340 So then Governor DeSantis retaliated. And we'll talk about whether that word really fits. I don't think it does.
00:03:46.860 He retaliated, so to speak, by revoking Disney's special deal.
00:03:56.940 And, and what, and it was just because Disney spoke up about the law.
00:04:03.360 Now, all right, that's the setup, just so everybody's up to speed.
00:04:06.860 Here are the things that people have been saying about it.
00:04:10.700 One is that it's, Disney had an unfair deal because they weren't paying taxes.
00:04:18.360 Unlike other corporations, they weren't paying taxes.
00:04:22.040 And so why is that good for Florida if Florida is giving up some, you know, autonomy and they're not getting taxes?
00:04:30.680 It's a bad deal for Florida, right?
00:04:32.260 No. No, there's a reason that Florida made the deal.
00:04:39.160 No, I don't, I don't own Disney stock except that it's a component of an index fund.
00:04:44.280 Good question.
00:04:45.600 By the way, you should always ask that question.
00:04:47.360 If you see me mention any product or even a CEO, ask it, just remind me because I don't, I just don't remember to do it.
00:04:55.520 Because there are some of these companies that, that I have some stock in.
00:04:58.860 And I do think it influences me, even when I don't feel it.
00:05:02.580 Of course it does.
00:05:03.560 Money always does.
00:05:06.160 But I don't have any specific stake in Disney.
00:05:09.900 So, here's the thing.
00:05:17.080 Disney employs 60,000 people in Florida.
00:05:19.840 So, that's 60,000 employees who get a paycheck, and then what happens with their paycheck?
00:05:27.980 Money comes out of it, that's called taxes, and it goes to Florida.
00:05:32.140 Now, that's 60,000 people who either wouldn't be there to work or would have had, I don't know, were competing with other jobs, would have been higher unemployment.
00:05:42.800 It would have been something different.
00:05:44.600 But 60,000 employees is quite a few people.
00:05:47.220 How about the tourists?
00:05:50.580 All those tourists who come into Florida, they're paying hotel taxes, right?
00:05:55.480 So, a hotel tax is almost like an income tax on somebody who doesn't live there.
00:06:00.100 It's just sort of an indirect income tax.
00:06:04.520 So, Florida actually has a way to, in a conceptual way, to levy, because it's a destination state.
00:06:14.240 Everybody wants to go there, for vacation anyway.
00:06:18.460 They can essentially put an income tax on other states.
00:06:22.880 Because if you make some money in another state, and you want to spend it in Florida on a vacation,
00:06:28.200 some of that money is going to go into the hotel tax and go into Florida's pocket.
00:06:31.660 So, how many millions of people go to Disney every year, and they're filling Florida's coffers through the hotel tax,
00:06:40.800 and then all these people are eating and drinking and buying goods, and there's this ripple effect.
00:06:46.920 The size of the footprint of Disney's economic benefit to Florida is kind of enormous, isn't it?
00:06:57.460 Am I wrong?
00:06:58.460 If you were talking to an actual commercial successful economist,
00:07:03.820 if you said to an economist, Disney doesn't pay taxes in Florida, would they just laugh at you?
00:07:10.820 I'm pretty sure that Disney creates more taxable situations, which is different.
00:07:19.280 They create more taxable situations than anybody in Florida.
00:07:25.080 I don't know.
00:07:25.620 Who is the biggest employer in Florida, besides the government?
00:07:29.960 Outside the government, who's the biggest, and maybe schools?
00:07:33.020 Outside the government and schools, is it Disney?
00:07:36.600 Military.
00:07:37.400 Could be military, but that doesn't count.
00:07:38.840 Well, Disney's one of them.
00:07:43.080 Somebody says NASA?
00:07:45.020 I would think Disney's the bigger one in terms of tax impact.
00:07:51.020 So, now, that's not counting the fact that Disney built their own infrastructure.
00:07:57.260 So, instead of the town paying for roads, Disney paid for them.
00:08:02.440 Isn't that like a tax?
00:08:04.360 It's in place of a tax, which was the whole idea.
00:08:07.060 We won't, you know, you won't have a lot of taxes, but those taxes would have paid for the roads, but you're going to pay for the roads.
00:08:16.540 So, just like a tax, you just have more flexibility to put the roads where you want them.
00:08:22.700 And who knew better where to put them?
00:08:24.260 I mean, Disney knew where to put the roads and what kind and when they needed them, and it was their priority.
00:08:30.160 So, wouldn't you prefer Disney build the roads to make it exactly what they wanted and built for the customer's impact?
00:08:38.800 So, he says, you're really trying hard, Scott.
00:08:45.480 You know, when somebody says that, like, I know I've sort of made some inroads.
00:08:52.380 Look for how many generic criticisms I get on this topic.
00:08:57.960 Watch how generic they are.
00:08:59.940 And that'll be a topic coming up.
00:09:01.920 All right, so, the first thing I would say is that the reason that Florida made the deal with Disney is not because Disney was so clever that they put one over on Florida.
00:09:15.500 That didn't happen.
00:09:17.060 I mean, there's no evidence that that happened.
00:09:19.020 The evidence is that two sophisticated entities, Disney and the governor of Florida, got together and they said, all right, what's good for you?
00:09:30.780 What's good for us?
00:09:32.020 How do we make a deal that's good for all of us?
00:09:34.540 And, by the way, when you decide how long a deal lasts, if you decide it's sort of a forever deal, that's part of your initial calculation.
00:09:43.360 If it's a bad deal, what happens?
00:09:50.320 Well, in my view, a deal is a deal.
00:09:53.340 So, that's a bigger factor for me than it is for some of you, and I'll talk about that in a minute.
00:09:59.180 So, let me start with that.
00:10:00.380 It's easier.
00:10:00.780 I'm going to go to the whiteboard.
00:10:02.220 So, would you agree that some of you have different opinions than I do about the Disney-DeSantis thing, right?
00:10:09.400 Starting with the fact that we have different opinions of it.
00:10:11.900 But why?
00:10:13.360 Is it because of the logic?
00:10:16.260 Or some knowledge?
00:10:18.960 Probably not.
00:10:20.360 I think how you come out on this has to do with your priorities.
00:10:26.300 In other words, there are a lot of things in play.
00:10:29.860 So, some people have sort of an anti-corporate power bias.
00:10:35.160 You know, it's just sort of, it's a filter they see the world in.
00:10:38.180 And so, they say, hey, why should Disney have a special deal?
00:10:41.540 Maybe that's a high priority for you.
00:10:43.360 It wouldn't be for me, but I could see why that would be for somebody else.
00:10:48.320 Parental rights.
00:10:49.420 Now, of course, this is the central issue, right?
00:10:52.900 The parental rights.
00:10:53.740 So, I would say that for many of you, that's the number one thing.
00:10:58.680 And whatever it is, whatever it is that gets to support that, even if it's a little extreme, even if it's breaking a deal, it's just the most important thing.
00:11:08.000 So, you might say to yourself, you know, I could be kind of flexible about everything, everything, if I can get this one thing.
00:11:17.720 I just want to have parental rights about how to raise my kid.
00:11:21.140 Reasonable.
00:11:21.500 But I don't have any pushback on that.
00:11:25.460 Anybody who has that opinion, I'd say, it's a good opinion.
00:11:28.560 Some people say that it's about winning.
00:11:32.700 You know, it's more important to win.
00:11:34.180 Other people say it's deterrence.
00:11:35.940 By the way, I was debating the word retaliation.
00:11:42.560 And I said that if retaliation is what you're doing, like just retaliation, you should be impeached.
00:11:50.540 Because we don't, you don't hire people to retaliate.
00:11:54.580 That's not really the job.
00:11:56.640 But, here's what I realized.
00:12:00.160 Here's what I realized.
00:12:04.760 The comments are going crazy because you want me to use the word grooming.
00:12:09.160 To make you, that'll make you happy?
00:12:11.700 Yes.
00:12:12.240 If you believe that the issue is grooming, I'm putting that under parental rights.
00:12:17.500 Right?
00:12:17.640 So, I acknowledge that the issue is that people thought that their kids were getting groomed.
00:12:25.820 But that's all, that all comes under the category of you want control of what your kids hear, right?
00:12:33.000 Do you agree that's the catch-all for that?
00:12:37.460 Somebody says I'm wrong.
00:12:38.760 Where am I wrong?
00:12:42.860 Issue is Disney lying.
00:12:45.260 Okay.
00:12:45.480 So, there are other issues.
00:12:47.300 People say Disney lying.
00:12:48.580 I would say that if you use the word deterrence instead of retaliation, then I'll agree with you.
00:12:55.080 Watch this.
00:12:56.060 Watch this, I'll agree.
00:12:57.680 You probably didn't think that we could find a way to agree, but watch this.
00:13:02.940 If I asked you to replace the word retaliation with the word deterrence,
00:13:08.860 that DeSantis pushed back in what you could call an unrelated area to create a deterrence for not only Disney,
00:13:19.540 but anybody else who would get into this realm and maybe interfere with parental rights or be, you know,
00:13:27.020 promoting grooming or whatever it is you think is happening.
00:13:29.660 That worked, right?
00:13:33.380 As soon as I said deterrence, you all said, okay, that's what I was thinking, right?
00:13:38.080 But it was just retaliation that wasn't working for me as a word.
00:13:41.940 So, I think we were not disagreeing on the concept.
00:13:49.480 I think we only disagreed on the word.
00:13:52.300 And so, I would blame the journalists.
00:13:55.000 Well, no, I blame myself.
00:13:56.940 Allow me to take responsibility for my own opinions.
00:14:00.080 I blame myself for being, let's say, a little bit duped by the journalists calling it retaliation.
00:14:08.280 Now, keep in mind that the word retaliation was used on both sides, right?
00:14:13.200 CNN and Fox News have both used that term.
00:14:17.360 So, it wasn't like I was biased by one side.
00:14:20.940 I was biased by both sides and the way the journalists chose to treat it.
00:14:26.260 But as long as you say the purpose of it was to set up a precedent and say, look, if you mess with parents
00:14:36.440 or you mess with politics in a way that the people on the right don't like, there will be consequences.
00:14:43.820 You won't like them and they'll be fairly immediate.
00:14:46.040 And that that would form a counterbalance to the fact that the left is really good at getting pressure on corporations.
00:14:57.300 So, corporations already have pressure from the left.
00:15:00.620 They have had far less pressure from the right.
00:15:04.020 DeSantis is creating the first, let's say, memorable counterbalance.
00:15:08.040 Because keep in mind, from a persuasion perspective, it doesn't matter so much that he's doing it.
00:15:15.840 It matters that you remember it.
00:15:18.760 It's the remembering it that's the important part.
00:15:22.240 That's right.
00:15:22.780 You can do stuff all day long, but if people don't remember you did it, it will have no future effect.
00:15:28.660 So, if you're looking for a deterrence, you're looking for a future effect, you've got to remember it.
00:15:36.360 And has DeSantis pulled that off?
00:15:39.420 Would you say DeSantis has succeeded, at least for the people who pay attention to politics?
00:15:44.000 I'm not sure everybody's paying attention to this.
00:15:46.080 This is probably like a 10% at tops.
00:15:49.180 But wouldn't you say that he succeeded?
00:15:52.440 Totally, right?
00:15:53.220 The people who have any kind of political memory will always go back to this example.
00:16:00.400 And the very next time a corporation speaks out, everybody's going to say,
00:16:03.760 Whoa, you better pull that back, because you saw what happened to Disney.
00:16:08.840 You saw what DeSantis did to them.
00:16:11.560 So, I would agree this works as a deterrence.
00:16:15.180 And I would also agree with the people who are saying that the right had not yet established a mutually assured destruction that would keep the corporations on the sideline.
00:16:29.000 And if you think that that's a good thing, and many of you do, and that's a reasonable opinion, right?
00:16:34.360 If your politics aligns with the right, and you think the right has been bullied and pushed around,
00:16:41.660 and you see DeSantis as essentially landing a blow for your side, but also creating a deterrence,
00:16:50.480 then I accept that as a trade-off that makes sense.
00:16:56.880 But let me tell you where you and I are probably different.
00:17:01.320 And it's not in the logic of it.
00:17:03.120 And it has nothing to do with, you know, I don't have a different opinion about parental rights.
00:17:09.800 I'm pretty sure we, I think probably all of you watching, or the most part, have a very similar opinion.
00:17:16.080 You know, the parents have to be in charge.
00:17:18.540 You know, as much as is practical, they need to be in charge.
00:17:22.460 But here's where you and I differ.
00:17:26.180 I have been, perhaps irrational, if I were to look at my own thinking,
00:17:32.320 perhaps irrational, but it's there.
00:17:38.120 Keeping a deal is a big deal to me.
00:17:40.640 It's a big deal.
00:17:41.940 And here's why.
00:17:43.300 I'll give you the rationality, but maybe there's some irrational thing that's driving me for this.
00:17:47.320 It's the only thing that holds society together.
00:17:50.800 The reason the United States works, relative to, say, some country that the government never works,
00:17:59.380 is that in the United States, you have a reasonable expectation of people keeping their deal.
00:18:05.080 And if not, and if not, then, you know, there's some consequences.
00:18:12.660 Yeah, I was always impressed that China, as much as I criticize them,
00:18:17.280 I always was impressed that they just waited for the 99-year lease in Hong Kong to run out.
00:18:23.260 Because clearly they could have forced the issue earlier.
00:18:26.440 Right?
00:18:26.720 Clearly.
00:18:27.000 But they just, they kept to the deal.
00:18:31.640 And what about the UK?
00:18:34.080 Right?
00:18:34.480 They owned this thing for 100 years.
00:18:36.920 It had, you know, this great value.
00:18:39.200 And they said, deal's a deal.
00:18:44.660 So I always appreciated that.
00:18:47.200 Because every time you have a big example of somebody keeping a deal,
00:18:51.460 even when it's really not cool for them,
00:18:54.080 it's just really hard for them,
00:18:55.080 but they kept a deal.
00:18:56.840 That's what keeps everything together.
00:18:59.560 Like, it's the most basic glue of society,
00:19:04.040 is that you keep your deal.
00:19:06.760 So, does that apply to this special case?
00:19:11.840 I think a reasonable person could say,
00:19:13.980 Scott, I get what you're saying,
00:19:15.440 that that's important to keep your deals,
00:19:17.460 and that that's the glue that holds America together,
00:19:19.760 and really makes this special, I would say.
00:19:22.420 Because our court system will chase you if you don't keep a deal.
00:19:25.840 We do have that working, more or less.
00:19:28.940 Better than other countries.
00:19:31.000 But if you said this is a special case,
00:19:33.700 I would say, ah, you got me.
00:19:37.300 Because I'm always willing to treat anything like a special case.
00:19:40.680 I'm never the person who says there's no special cases.
00:19:43.640 There's always a special case.
00:19:45.660 And would this be one?
00:19:49.600 If you're going to pick a special case,
00:19:52.560 of all the reasons you could pick a special case,
00:19:56.640 the special case would be
00:19:57.800 if you think you're protecting your children.
00:20:00.500 Right?
00:20:01.040 Isn't that the ultimate special case?
00:20:03.380 Well, a deal's a deal.
00:20:06.280 Normally, normally I would not be in favor
00:20:08.880 of somebody grooming my child.
00:20:10.760 But a deal's a deal,
00:20:13.200 and I don't want to go back on a deal,
00:20:15.460 because it's a very important principle.
00:20:17.500 It holds society together.
00:20:19.640 No.
00:20:21.060 You're going to break any deal
00:20:22.420 if you think your child's well-being is at stake, right?
00:20:26.340 You'd break it immediately.
00:20:28.200 So I think I have some irrational connection to this
00:20:34.360 for this topic.
00:20:35.980 So if you and I disagree,
00:20:38.640 and you want to say,
00:20:39.400 Scott, you're being irrational,
00:20:41.620 here's where.
00:20:43.380 I'm being irrational in the deal's a deal.
00:20:45.140 That really bothered me.
00:20:46.620 I have to say,
00:20:48.020 strangely enough,
00:20:49.440 it really bothered me
00:20:50.280 that anybody would...
00:20:52.600 Now, let me say it another way.
00:20:54.320 It bothered me that the government
00:20:55.900 would break a deal.
00:20:57.460 That bothered me the most.
00:21:00.440 Now, if you say,
00:21:02.380 hey, the deal was made when it made sense,
00:21:04.500 but now time has gone by,
00:21:06.560 and Disney is doing so well
00:21:08.020 that they don't need that special deal.
00:21:11.320 Okay.
00:21:12.340 But I don't know if anybody did the analysis.
00:21:15.140 Did DeSantis do the analysis
00:21:17.140 and know that they really make money on this deal?
00:21:19.740 Does the state of Florida really come out ahead?
00:21:22.340 Because they're going to be paying
00:21:23.180 for the infrastructure now instead of Disney.
00:21:26.080 Do they?
00:21:26.860 I don't know.
00:21:27.680 Did anybody do that math?
00:21:29.800 All right.
00:21:30.120 Well, here are some of the answers
00:21:31.280 that I got when I asked people,
00:21:32.940 be specific.
00:21:33.560 What do you think DeSantis got
00:21:35.780 in terms of a benefit?
00:21:37.780 And here are the things that people answered,
00:21:39.420 and I want to show you
00:21:40.060 how sort of muddy people's thinking is.
00:21:44.560 Everybody who said he created a deterrence,
00:21:47.900 I think, is a clean thinker.
00:21:51.260 That's a clean answer.
00:21:52.580 You could disagree with it.
00:21:54.100 You could say,
00:21:54.900 I don't think it was enough of a deterrence
00:21:56.860 or something like that.
00:21:57.600 But it's a clean, specific answer.
00:22:00.180 That's a benefit.
00:22:02.660 Everybody would understand what that means.
00:22:05.140 And it could be explained in one word.
00:22:07.520 Deterrence.
00:22:08.400 So that's like a good, good answer.
00:22:10.880 Here are the other answers.
00:22:12.800 So these are people who maybe
00:22:14.700 are feeling something about the issue,
00:22:17.860 but the thinking process hasn't gelled yet.
00:22:21.480 People said that the benefit that DeSantis got
00:22:24.040 was it's a principle.
00:22:25.180 You know, he's upholding a principle.
00:22:28.040 He said obedience
00:22:28.940 keeps Disney out of politics,
00:22:33.420 but does it?
00:22:35.320 I don't know.
00:22:36.260 Will it keep anybody out of politics?
00:22:38.040 Because remember,
00:22:38.860 the left is pushing people to be in politics.
00:22:42.140 So corporations are going to be damned
00:22:44.640 if they do and damned if they don't.
00:22:47.720 I don't know.
00:22:48.480 It won't keep anybody out of politics,
00:22:50.100 but it might actually be a little deterrence.
00:22:52.000 Disney loses its monopoly power.
00:22:55.800 I don't even know what that means.
00:22:57.360 Something about losing their special control.
00:23:00.020 Some people were pointing out
00:23:03.400 that Disney should lose that deal anyway.
00:23:06.740 So it doesn't matter
00:23:08.260 that it's being used as a deterrence.
00:23:11.080 You should lose it anyway.
00:23:13.140 There's things like fairness and attention
00:23:14.960 and blah, blah, blah.
00:23:16.480 So I think the bottom line is
00:23:19.200 that we probably are closer
00:23:20.880 to agreeing on this than not.
00:23:25.560 Fox News asked some people
00:23:26.880 about Biden's accomplishments.
00:23:30.580 Before we do this,
00:23:32.760 let me tell you something
00:23:35.180 I wasn't sure if I was going to talk about today,
00:23:37.440 at least in this forum.
00:23:40.000 So last night,
00:23:41.700 I decided that I would see
00:23:44.500 if I could recreate an experience
00:23:46.320 that I had in my 20s.
00:23:49.120 And it was an experience with mushrooms.
00:23:51.980 And I've talked about it often,
00:23:54.100 and I said it was one of the most,
00:23:55.560 well, first of all,
00:23:56.240 it was one of the most enjoyable days
00:23:57.780 of my whole life.
00:23:59.180 I mean, just off the charts.
00:24:02.380 But secondly,
00:24:03.120 I said that I felt it changed me permanently
00:24:05.300 in a positive way.
00:24:07.040 And I wasn't sure
00:24:10.080 if I were to do it again
00:24:11.920 many years later
00:24:12.820 if I would feel the same.
00:24:15.320 Because I thought to myself,
00:24:16.620 what if,
00:24:17.780 what if the benefits
00:24:19.260 of the first experience
00:24:21.160 sort of settled in
00:24:23.220 and just became who I am?
00:24:25.240 Would I then be immune?
00:24:27.100 In other words,
00:24:28.440 would the experience
00:24:29.580 just try to make me
00:24:30.740 what I already was,
00:24:31.980 and I would just sit there saying,
00:24:33.640 I don't think anything's happening?
00:24:34.940 Or would I just have
00:24:38.120 another profound experience?
00:24:39.860 I had no idea.
00:24:41.320 So, first of all,
00:24:44.460 kids don't do drugs.
00:24:47.620 So you're going to get
00:24:49.020 a cautionary tale here.
00:24:51.160 If you think this is going to end
00:24:53.000 with a delightful story
00:24:56.140 of how much fun I had,
00:24:58.200 well, it didn't go that way.
00:24:59.900 It did not go that way.
00:25:01.840 Here's what I think happened.
00:25:03.360 But I'm not positive.
00:25:07.400 The specific form
00:25:09.080 was in chocolate.
00:25:10.700 It was an edible.
00:25:12.120 And it was sort of packaged
00:25:13.500 and professional-looking thing.
00:25:15.980 And I thought,
00:25:16.640 well, that's going to be safe.
00:25:18.100 Because I knew people
00:25:19.360 who had experienced
00:25:20.940 exactly the same product
00:25:22.180 from the same box,
00:25:23.960 literally.
00:25:24.940 And nobody had
00:25:27.080 an especially bad experience.
00:25:29.300 I think one mildly bad ones.
00:25:31.620 But basically,
00:25:33.400 so I knew this was
00:25:34.420 a relatively safe
00:25:36.800 kind of thing.
00:25:37.960 Relative to things
00:25:39.100 that are not safe.
00:25:40.000 It's not safe.
00:25:41.720 Let me be clear.
00:25:43.780 It's not safe.
00:25:45.680 It's just a little bit safer
00:25:47.520 than it could have been.
00:25:48.780 You know,
00:25:48.980 if you just found a mushroom
00:25:50.520 in the forest
00:25:51.100 and started chomping on it,
00:25:52.280 I guess that would be
00:25:52.800 the least safe.
00:25:54.500 And so,
00:25:55.640 you're contradicting yourself
00:25:57.960 all the time now.
00:25:59.500 What would be
00:25:59.900 an example of that?
00:26:01.820 All right.
00:26:04.020 So here was my experience.
00:26:06.300 I had no cognitive,
00:26:08.700 let's say,
00:26:10.660 psychedelic experience.
00:26:13.560 I took the low end
00:26:16.560 of the highest dose.
00:26:19.880 And I felt physically uncomfortable.
00:26:23.380 Like I couldn't sit down.
00:26:25.420 And I didn't want to be touched.
00:26:26.620 You know,
00:26:28.660 I just needed to be
00:26:29.940 standing and walking.
00:26:31.980 And a stomach ache.
00:26:35.240 Like a digestive problem
00:26:37.180 that was actually pretty bad.
00:26:40.320 So he says the dose was too low.
00:26:45.000 Well,
00:26:45.580 if the dose had been higher,
00:26:47.320 wouldn't have...
00:26:47.980 No,
00:26:48.360 I didn't have an empty stomach.
00:26:49.400 So I intentionally ate
00:26:51.780 ate beforehand.
00:26:53.780 Like right beforehand.
00:26:55.720 So here's the thing.
00:26:58.000 If you think that I had
00:26:59.700 a mushroom experience,
00:27:00.900 I disagree.
00:27:02.040 Because having experienced it once,
00:27:05.180 I can tell you that
00:27:06.420 this wasn't it.
00:27:08.260 So I don't believe
00:27:09.480 this was actually
00:27:10.960 actually mushrooms.
00:27:13.640 I think...
00:27:14.280 And I did a little googling
00:27:15.740 to find out.
00:27:16.520 Sure enough,
00:27:17.900 there are counterfeit...
00:27:18.940 There are counterfeit
00:27:20.800 mushroom chocolate products.
00:27:22.680 Now,
00:27:22.920 I don't know if I had one.
00:27:24.480 But I do know that
00:27:25.380 I know what it should have felt like.
00:27:27.780 And it wasn't...
00:27:28.720 It wasn't like
00:27:30.040 a small version of that.
00:27:32.560 It was nothing.
00:27:34.500 So there wasn't
00:27:35.520 any psychological effect.
00:27:38.360 Except that I was uncomfortable...
00:27:40.400 I was uncomfortable
00:27:41.280 with my physical feeling,
00:27:43.620 which I guess
00:27:44.160 had a mental effect.
00:27:45.200 But there wasn't
00:27:46.360 any cognitive change.
00:27:47.700 It just made me
00:27:48.400 unbalanced.
00:27:52.020 And it felt like
00:27:53.300 a stimulant, actually.
00:27:55.460 If I had to guess,
00:27:57.280 I would say a stimulant.
00:28:01.940 And I don't think
00:28:02.800 mushrooms ever act like that.
00:28:04.300 Are they?
00:28:07.200 No, I wouldn't do that alone.
00:28:10.020 So, you know,
00:28:10.720 I was in a safe environment.
00:28:12.380 Blah, blah, blah.
00:28:12.800 Yeah.
00:28:15.520 So,
00:28:16.640 did I have any memories
00:28:18.180 from the old types?
00:28:18.820 Yeah, I have a very specific memory
00:28:20.940 of the first time.
00:28:22.200 And I can tell you
00:28:22.980 that was dramatic.
00:28:24.800 The experience
00:28:26.320 is not subtle.
00:28:31.500 So here's my only warning.
00:28:34.360 The toughest thing
00:28:35.380 with anything in this category
00:28:37.220 is you don't know
00:28:37.780 what you're getting.
00:28:38.860 That's the problem.
00:28:39.740 Fentanyl.
00:28:40.940 Yeah.
00:28:41.520 Somebody said fentanyl.
00:28:42.960 And I actually,
00:28:43.980 that's one of my suspicions.
00:28:46.020 I have a suspicion
00:28:47.100 that it was
00:28:48.460 something that would make you
00:28:50.700 feel like you wanted
00:28:51.800 to do it again.
00:28:53.000 Yeah, I'm actually wondering
00:28:54.300 if the only people
00:28:55.900 who would do it twice
00:28:56.720 are people who would never
00:28:57.600 experience the real thing.
00:28:59.680 Because if you experience
00:29:00.900 the real thing,
00:29:01.740 I don't think you would
00:29:02.440 do this again.
00:29:03.820 But if you hadn't,
00:29:04.960 you might say to yourself,
00:29:05.840 oh, I got some,
00:29:07.940 basically intoxication
00:29:09.620 was out.
00:29:10.660 I would describe it
00:29:12.000 as intoxication
00:29:13.180 and stimulation
00:29:15.000 at the same time.
00:29:16.140 It was a bad combo.
00:29:20.900 Somebody says
00:29:21.540 the dose was too low.
00:29:23.840 Well,
00:29:25.220 that's the problem
00:29:26.540 is you don't know
00:29:27.120 what the dose should be.
00:29:28.440 I mean,
00:29:28.700 if you followed
00:29:29.160 the directions,
00:29:30.720 it was on the high end.
00:29:31.720 But I did expect
00:29:34.260 I did expect
00:29:35.400 that there would be
00:29:35.860 like some
00:29:36.660 some effect.
00:29:38.300 There really wasn't any.
00:29:41.180 Anyway.
00:29:43.480 Fox News asked
00:29:44.580 about Biden's accomplishments.
00:29:47.220 And so
00:29:47.780 if I act a little
00:29:48.660 loopy today,
00:29:49.800 I've got like
00:29:50.540 two hours of sleep.
00:29:52.360 So I'm probably
00:29:53.360 going to go to sleep
00:29:54.180 as soon as this is done.
00:29:56.300 People asked
00:29:57.060 about Biden's accomplishments.
00:29:59.200 And it's funny
00:29:59.700 because if you see
00:30:00.620 the professionals
00:30:01.620 Democrats
00:30:02.760 answer the question
00:30:03.740 of what has Biden done,
00:30:05.660 usually they go
00:30:06.420 to infrastructure.
00:30:07.600 Oh,
00:30:07.780 we got the infrastructure
00:30:08.600 bill passed.
00:30:10.340 But the
00:30:11.060 the public at large
00:30:12.500 doesn't even know
00:30:13.080 what that is.
00:30:15.240 So
00:30:15.720 Biden's biggest
00:30:16.860 accomplishment
00:30:17.480 is something
00:30:18.180 that literally
00:30:18.920 95%
00:30:20.680 of his base
00:30:21.700 doesn't
00:30:23.760 know about.
00:30:24.880 It's just
00:30:25.340 he passed a budget.
00:30:27.160 It just sounds
00:30:27.680 like he passed
00:30:28.180 a budget.
00:30:29.440 Like it literally
00:30:30.140 sounds like
00:30:30.720 the most nothing
00:30:31.400 that anything
00:30:31.840 could sound
00:30:32.220 like.
00:30:33.040 Hey,
00:30:33.600 he passed
00:30:34.620 a budget
00:30:35.000 for infrastructure.
00:30:37.380 Okay.
00:30:39.080 Don't they
00:30:39.740 all do that?
00:30:41.240 Doesn't
00:30:41.760 every government
00:30:42.520 pass a budget
00:30:43.980 for infrastructure?
00:30:45.540 No,
00:30:46.040 this is like
00:30:46.440 extra.
00:30:48.800 That's it.
00:30:50.440 There's a little
00:30:50.880 extra big
00:30:51.540 on the budget
00:30:52.140 for the infrastructure
00:30:53.000 which is basically
00:30:53.860 your normal job.
00:30:55.180 That's it.
00:30:55.740 And even people
00:30:57.060 don't know
00:30:57.440 that.
00:30:59.080 So
00:30:59.480 people say
00:31:00.960 stuff like
00:31:01.640 well,
00:31:02.860 you know,
00:31:03.060 he's the
00:31:03.500 we brought
00:31:04.340 back the
00:31:05.040 calm,
00:31:06.180 sober
00:31:06.400 leadership.
00:31:08.920 And
00:31:09.520 what did
00:31:10.340 that get you?
00:31:11.900 How's that
00:31:12.500 calm,
00:31:13.220 sober
00:31:13.460 leadership
00:31:14.160 working out?
00:31:15.320 And
00:31:18.760 but the
00:31:19.360 funniest thing
00:31:19.840 is I saw
00:31:20.740 Fox News
00:31:21.300 mocking a
00:31:22.060 Washington Post
00:31:22.720 editorial
00:31:24.700 in which the
00:31:25.880 writer was
00:31:26.300 saying they
00:31:26.700 couldn't
00:31:26.960 understand
00:31:27.540 why Biden
00:31:28.940 isn't being
00:31:30.840 more popular
00:31:31.680 and successful.
00:31:34.760 And I'm
00:31:35.420 thinking
00:31:35.700 I have a
00:31:38.220 few ideas
00:31:39.140 I can throw
00:31:40.140 into the mix.
00:31:40.760 I don't
00:31:42.200 feel like
00:31:42.600 it's that
00:31:42.940 complicated
00:31:43.460 at all,
00:31:44.580 honestly.
00:31:46.180 All right.
00:31:47.820 This old
00:31:48.640 Johnny Depp
00:31:49.260 story with
00:31:50.120 so he's
00:31:51.440 suing a
00:31:52.240 $50 million
00:31:53.040 lawsuit against
00:31:54.040 Amber Heard,
00:31:54.880 his ex,
00:31:56.020 because she
00:31:56.700 wrote some
00:31:57.080 article that
00:31:57.640 claimed he
00:31:58.120 was an
00:31:58.500 abuser.
00:32:00.080 And now
00:32:00.400 he's suing
00:32:01.040 and seems
00:32:02.440 to have
00:32:02.800 proven with
00:32:03.780 audio tapes
00:32:04.540 anyway that
00:32:05.760 she was the
00:32:06.280 abuser.
00:32:07.320 So not only
00:32:07.900 was she the
00:32:08.600 abuser but
00:32:10.300 but she
00:32:12.560 accused him
00:32:13.100 of being
00:32:13.400 the abuser
00:32:13.820 and ruined
00:32:14.220 his life
00:32:15.220 basically in
00:32:15.880 his career.
00:32:17.380 And here's
00:32:18.240 the thing
00:32:18.580 that I
00:32:19.380 love about
00:32:19.860 this.
00:32:23.980 There are
00:32:24.580 a lot of
00:32:24.940 people learning
00:32:25.560 that Amber
00:32:27.640 Heard exists
00:32:28.600 and that she
00:32:29.780 has a certain
00:32:30.400 set of
00:32:31.200 personality traits
00:32:32.320 and I
00:32:34.000 believe that
00:32:34.520 there are
00:32:34.840 people,
00:32:35.560 let me ask
00:32:36.200 you,
00:32:36.920 how many
00:32:37.340 people are
00:32:37.760 familiar with
00:32:38.300 the Johnny
00:32:39.440 Depp Amber
00:32:39.960 Heard
00:32:40.140 story?
00:32:40.300 story and
00:32:40.940 you said
00:32:42.040 to yourself,
00:32:42.960 oh my
00:32:43.860 God, I
00:32:44.440 know Amber
00:32:45.060 Heard.
00:32:45.520 It might
00:32:45.780 be a male
00:32:46.340 Amber Heard
00:32:47.020 or a female
00:32:47.560 Amber Heard,
00:32:48.540 so gender
00:32:49.280 doesn't matter
00:32:49.880 but is
00:32:52.300 there anybody
00:32:52.700 who, look
00:32:54.100 at the
00:32:54.440 comments,
00:32:55.900 so many
00:32:56.680 of you
00:32:57.160 have met
00:32:58.140 her or
00:32:59.580 one like
00:33:00.120 her and
00:33:01.380 here's the
00:33:01.860 thing that
00:33:02.320 you probably
00:33:02.940 thought.
00:33:05.040 It can't
00:33:05.780 be two of
00:33:06.220 those,
00:33:07.560 right?
00:33:08.020 How many
00:33:09.480 of you
00:33:09.720 had that
00:33:10.080 experience
00:33:10.580 and just
00:33:10.960 said to
00:33:11.220 yourself,
00:33:11.600 there's no
00:33:12.000 way there
00:33:12.340 are two
00:33:12.640 of these?
00:33:13.840 Like, I
00:33:14.200 don't know
00:33:14.420 what I
00:33:14.700 experience
00:33:15.100 here, but
00:33:16.420 I can tell
00:33:16.980 you one
00:33:17.280 thing, there
00:33:18.460 can't be
00:33:18.820 two of
00:33:19.160 these.
00:33:21.860 There are a
00:33:22.440 lot of
00:33:22.740 them.
00:33:24.260 If you look
00:33:24.940 at the
00:33:25.160 comments, it's
00:33:26.000 just filled
00:33:26.440 with people
00:33:26.880 saying, yes,
00:33:27.520 my ex, my
00:33:28.120 blah, blah,
00:33:28.460 blah.
00:33:28.760 Now, it's
00:33:29.260 men and
00:33:29.720 women, right?
00:33:30.340 So, it's
00:33:30.960 not a gender
00:33:31.460 thing.
00:33:32.580 It's a
00:33:34.080 personality
00:33:34.600 thing.
00:33:35.780 If you
00:33:36.700 look at
00:33:37.020 the specific
00:33:38.020 things that
00:33:38.800 Amber Heard
00:33:39.380 is accused
00:33:39.880 of, and
00:33:41.500 since I'm
00:33:42.180 not a
00:33:42.900 doctor, I
00:33:44.700 cannot give
00:33:45.240 you a
00:33:45.500 diagnosis.
00:33:46.860 I will
00:33:47.160 simply make
00:33:47.700 an observation.
00:33:49.300 If you
00:33:49.920 were to
00:33:50.180 make a
00:33:50.520 list of
00:33:51.000 all the
00:33:51.300 things that
00:33:51.900 describe a
00:33:53.040 vulnerable
00:33:53.940 narcissist, and
00:33:55.440 I think
00:33:55.660 there are
00:33:55.920 some other
00:33:56.260 things like
00:33:56.940 some
00:33:58.940 personality
00:33:59.400 disorders that
00:34:00.220 also overlap,
00:34:00.940 but if
00:34:01.640 you just
00:34:01.900 made a
00:34:02.200 list of
00:34:02.500 all the
00:34:02.740 things they
00:34:03.120 do, Amber
00:34:05.100 Heard checks
00:34:05.580 off all the
00:34:06.100 lists, and
00:34:07.260 one of the
00:34:07.640 weirdest ones
00:34:08.380 is that
00:34:08.780 projection thing,
00:34:10.380 where they
00:34:11.200 blame you, even
00:34:12.140 in public, in
00:34:12.820 this case, of
00:34:13.820 doing the crime
00:34:14.600 that only they
00:34:15.200 were doing.
00:34:16.460 That's the
00:34:17.100 weirdest part,
00:34:18.780 blaming you of
00:34:19.440 a crime that
00:34:20.200 only they are
00:34:21.160 doing.
00:34:22.380 Like, that one
00:34:22.920 you don't think
00:34:23.600 could happen with
00:34:24.360 more than one
00:34:24.920 person, but it
00:34:26.760 does.
00:34:28.140 So, here's the
00:34:29.620 thing you need
00:34:30.040 to know.
00:34:31.320 Amber Heard is
00:34:33.280 genetically a
00:34:34.160 human being.
00:34:35.520 You know, if
00:34:35.780 you checked her
00:34:36.280 DNA, it would
00:34:36.880 be human.
00:34:38.340 But if you
00:34:39.460 treat her like
00:34:40.080 a human, and
00:34:43.180 assume that she
00:34:43.860 will act like a
00:34:44.540 human, she will
00:34:46.200 destroy you.
00:34:47.560 One of the
00:34:48.060 things that
00:34:48.460 Johnny Depp
00:34:48.960 said that just
00:34:51.000 really blew my
00:34:52.220 mind was he
00:34:54.440 said that
00:34:54.920 something like
00:34:55.460 he thought that
00:34:56.080 she'd been put
00:34:56.620 there to take
00:34:58.080 take everything
00:34:58.800 from him.
00:35:00.300 Like she was
00:35:01.120 just an evil
00:35:01.780 force who
00:35:03.480 wasn't being
00:35:04.280 selfishly evil,
00:35:06.760 but rather just
00:35:07.380 evil.
00:35:08.680 It was like she
00:35:09.660 didn't have
00:35:10.080 anything to
00:35:10.660 gain.
00:35:11.600 It was just
00:35:12.280 evil.
00:35:13.300 And so I think
00:35:13.840 that's what he
00:35:14.320 was responding to.
00:35:15.160 It was like, I
00:35:16.080 don't even see
00:35:16.660 what was in it
00:35:17.220 for her.
00:35:17.980 Like, it just
00:35:19.140 looked evil.
00:35:19.680 And if you've
00:35:23.200 had experience
00:35:23.800 with one person
00:35:24.800 like this in
00:35:25.380 your life, and
00:35:25.980 so many of you
00:35:26.580 have, I can see
00:35:27.200 in the comments,
00:35:28.740 just know that
00:35:29.540 that wasn't one.
00:35:31.840 Now, do you
00:35:32.420 know what the
00:35:32.880 solution is that
00:35:33.940 the experts say
00:35:34.800 if you run into
00:35:35.580 one of these
00:35:36.120 people?
00:35:38.780 I'm just going
00:35:39.380 to say one of
00:35:39.800 these people.
00:35:40.240 And again, I'm
00:35:41.140 not going to
00:35:41.560 label it as
00:35:43.360 vulnerable
00:35:43.860 narcissism as
00:35:44.940 if I could
00:35:45.480 diagnose it,
00:35:46.480 because you
00:35:46.780 need a doctor
00:35:47.420 to diagnose.
00:35:48.620 I'm just going
00:35:49.340 to say that
00:35:49.880 there's a very
00:35:50.720 clear checklist
00:35:51.660 of behaviors,
00:35:53.080 and that she
00:35:54.060 hits them all.
00:35:55.540 Right down
00:35:56.060 the list.
00:35:56.440 Boop.
00:35:57.460 And that's
00:35:58.640 all I can say.
00:35:59.440 If you meet
00:36:00.380 somebody who
00:36:00.940 fits the
00:36:01.540 checklist,
00:36:02.860 what would
00:36:03.280 the checklist
00:36:03.740 be?
00:36:04.160 It would be
00:36:04.520 like the
00:36:05.300 emotional
00:36:05.720 outbursts.
00:36:06.940 Here's the
00:36:07.960 most incredible
00:36:08.640 part, is that
00:36:10.760 they'll minimize
00:36:11.620 their awfulness
00:36:12.860 like it's no
00:36:13.500 big deal.
00:36:14.640 When you hear
00:36:15.120 her on the
00:36:15.420 audio tapes,
00:36:16.540 like she was
00:36:17.040 throwing things
00:36:17.860 and basically
00:36:18.360 physically abusing
00:36:19.320 him, and he
00:36:20.020 was literally
00:36:20.440 hiding, and
00:36:21.780 she treated it
00:36:22.440 like he was a
00:36:23.060 huge pussy, and
00:36:23.820 it was no big
00:36:24.360 deal, and he
00:36:24.960 should man up.
00:36:27.920 That's like you
00:36:28.520 almost can't even
00:36:29.080 believe it.
00:36:29.800 It's like
00:36:30.100 unbelievable, but
00:36:30.900 that's on the
00:36:31.340 checklist.
00:36:34.220 You'd expect
00:36:34.900 that one.
00:36:35.920 The having
00:36:37.320 affairs, the
00:36:38.600 projection, it's
00:36:41.980 just all there.
00:36:43.540 So this
00:36:44.720 seemed like a
00:36:45.320 small story, but
00:36:46.100 I think it's a
00:36:46.540 big story.
00:36:47.140 Here's the thing
00:36:47.660 you need to
00:36:48.120 learn.
00:36:49.320 The experts
00:36:49.900 give you one
00:36:50.620 recommendation if
00:36:51.640 you accidentally
00:36:52.320 get into a
00:36:53.060 relationship with
00:36:53.880 such a person.
00:36:55.240 Do you know
00:36:55.480 what that one
00:36:57.100 piece of advice
00:36:57.780 is?
00:36:58.100 And it's all
00:36:58.620 the same.
00:36:59.480 No expert,
00:37:00.420 there's nobody
00:37:01.000 who disagrees.
00:37:02.680 Run, right?
00:37:03.840 Because if you
00:37:05.460 imagine that
00:37:06.160 they're like
00:37:06.540 people, they
00:37:08.120 are humans, but
00:37:09.680 if you imagine
00:37:10.500 they act like a
00:37:11.420 person, then
00:37:13.400 you'll just be
00:37:13.960 destroyed.
00:37:14.440 because they're
00:37:15.520 not there to
00:37:16.100 act like a
00:37:16.560 person.
00:37:16.940 They're there to
00:37:17.380 destroy you.
00:37:18.680 And once you
00:37:19.500 get destroyed,
00:37:20.880 they'll move to
00:37:21.440 the next person
00:37:22.060 and destroy
00:37:22.560 them.
00:37:23.420 They don't
00:37:23.680 stop destroying.
00:37:25.100 They just keep
00:37:26.120 destroying.
00:37:27.660 So just run.
00:37:30.900 And so I
00:37:33.220 think Johnny
00:37:33.780 Depp has done
00:37:36.380 a national
00:37:37.020 service of
00:37:38.120 extraordinary value
00:37:39.280 if we come to
00:37:41.340 see it this way.
00:37:41.980 If we can see
00:37:43.500 what he's telling
00:37:44.200 us, he's
00:37:45.880 teaching us to
00:37:46.740 run.
00:37:48.240 He's telling us
00:37:49.160 what to look
00:37:49.760 for, and he's
00:37:51.660 saying run, if
00:37:53.100 you see it.
00:37:53.780 I mean, that's
00:37:54.140 how I interpret
00:37:55.340 the story.
00:37:56.500 Now, of course,
00:37:57.480 he probably has a
00:37:58.720 gigantic personal
00:37:59.620 stake in this.
00:38:00.500 He's trying to,
00:38:01.600 you know, suing
00:38:02.600 for $50 million
00:38:03.440 doesn't make any
00:38:04.860 sense because I
00:38:05.640 don't think she
00:38:06.220 has $50 million.
00:38:06.940 But I feel
00:38:11.040 like he's, it
00:38:12.760 feels more like
00:38:13.440 he's doing it
00:38:13.940 for us, doesn't
00:38:15.200 it?
00:38:16.180 I'm not even
00:38:17.000 sure, I'm not
00:38:19.720 even sure that
00:38:20.380 Johnny Depp
00:38:21.020 thinks he'll get
00:38:21.680 anything personally
00:38:22.460 out of this
00:38:22.960 except the
00:38:25.200 satisfaction of,
00:38:26.300 you know, the
00:38:26.780 truth, I guess.
00:38:29.120 All right.
00:38:31.300 Speaking of the
00:38:32.100 truth, so
00:38:34.440 truth social now
00:38:35.480 is on the rumble
00:38:36.300 cloud, I guess,
00:38:37.640 and people are
00:38:38.320 being brought on
00:38:39.300 on greater numbers.
00:38:40.600 So some of the
00:38:41.200 technical problems
00:38:42.000 seem to be
00:38:42.700 perhaps resolved.
00:38:45.440 But I saw, I'm
00:38:47.900 seeing some
00:38:48.380 activism now to
00:38:50.080 ask the Apple
00:38:50.920 store, the app
00:38:51.840 store, to drop
00:38:52.580 the app, which
00:38:53.900 basically puts you
00:38:55.080 in a business.
00:38:56.640 You know, I mean,
00:38:57.120 you could still
00:38:58.280 have the platform,
00:38:59.280 but if you don't
00:38:59.720 have the Apple
00:39:00.440 app, you're not
00:39:03.280 going to thrive.
00:39:04.020 So how do you
00:39:07.160 succeed when
00:39:08.040 Apple can just
00:39:08.860 say, okay, you're
00:39:11.160 gone?
00:39:12.560 And what would it
00:39:13.420 take?
00:39:13.700 It wouldn't take
00:39:14.120 anything.
00:39:14.720 All they'd have to
00:39:15.300 do is say, um,
00:39:16.760 looks like you got
00:39:17.480 a bunch of right
00:39:18.100 wing extremists on
00:39:19.060 there, you're done.
00:39:21.020 Right?
00:39:22.300 And won't there be
00:39:23.480 a lot of right
00:39:24.080 wing extremists on
00:39:25.080 there?
00:39:27.420 I would think.
00:39:29.980 You know,
00:39:30.340 probably some.
00:39:31.460 So it seems to
00:39:33.100 me that Apple
00:39:34.260 has every ability
00:39:35.320 to just delete
00:39:36.600 them whenever
00:39:37.680 they want.
00:39:38.320 So how exactly
00:39:40.120 do you succeed
00:39:40.840 that way?
00:39:42.380 I mean, I guess
00:39:43.060 you don't know
00:39:43.840 until you have
00:39:44.280 the fight, and
00:39:45.460 so that's the
00:39:46.360 risk of an
00:39:46.820 entrepreneur, is
00:39:47.460 you've got to
00:39:47.700 take that fight.
00:39:49.060 But that's a
00:39:49.960 pretty big risk.
00:39:51.720 Now, here's my
00:39:52.580 take on Trump
00:39:55.600 running for 2024.
00:39:57.540 Number one, I
00:39:58.620 think he could
00:39:59.100 win.
00:39:59.440 And probably
00:40:02.400 would be the,
00:40:04.920 yeah, I think
00:40:05.340 he could win.
00:40:06.920 So, and I
00:40:08.180 think that if he
00:40:08.800 gets in, he'd
00:40:10.360 probably win.
00:40:11.620 But here's the
00:40:12.300 problem.
00:40:13.520 Given that
00:40:14.220 January 6th was
00:40:15.880 such a black
00:40:16.580 eye to the
00:40:17.240 Republicans, and
00:40:19.420 a Trump
00:40:19.980 administration
00:40:20.560 would be
00:40:20.960 looking to
00:40:21.580 staff up with
00:40:22.940 Republicans, how
00:40:24.700 could he
00:40:24.980 possibly staff
00:40:25.820 up?
00:40:26.120 like, how
00:40:27.940 could a
00:40:28.360 Trump 2024
00:40:29.320 victory, how
00:40:31.120 could he
00:40:31.520 attract a
00:40:32.620 talent pool
00:40:33.220 when he's
00:40:35.000 suffering under
00:40:35.540 that January
00:40:36.140 6th brainwashing
00:40:37.380 thing that was
00:40:38.580 really effective?
00:40:40.280 You know, half
00:40:40.760 of the country
00:40:41.240 thinks that he's
00:40:42.860 a traitor, and
00:40:44.780 even if he wins,
00:40:45.680 because, you know,
00:40:46.160 he gets enough
00:40:46.640 votes from his
00:40:47.240 own people,
00:40:47.680 I feel like
00:40:54.500 people would be
00:40:55.800 afraid to
00:40:56.420 associate, because
00:40:58.020 it would feel
00:40:58.520 like, oh, another
00:40:59.580 one joins the
00:41:00.440 traitors party or
00:41:01.480 something.
00:41:03.240 I mean, it was
00:41:03.660 bad enough when he
00:41:04.460 was only being
00:41:05.100 called a racist,
00:41:06.520 which, by the
00:41:07.040 way, stopped
00:41:07.520 happening.
00:41:08.180 Have you noticed
00:41:08.620 that?
00:41:09.400 As soon as they
00:41:10.020 had this new
00:41:10.540 thing, Trump
00:41:12.480 stopped being a
00:41:13.140 racist.
00:41:14.040 It just hasn't
00:41:14.520 come up.
00:41:16.500 Doesn't matter
00:41:17.140 anymore, I
00:41:17.740 guess, as if
00:41:19.340 it were ever
00:41:19.780 true in any
00:41:21.280 meaningful way.
00:41:24.640 He needs to
00:41:25.360 make a point of
00:41:26.000 destroying the
00:41:26.440 FBI.
00:41:27.060 Well, I think
00:41:27.940 that this is
00:41:28.560 the kill shot.
00:41:32.600 You have to
00:41:33.360 ask yourself how
00:41:34.220 he would staff
00:41:34.900 up, and to
00:41:35.920 me, I don't
00:41:36.400 know the answer
00:41:36.920 to it.
00:41:37.500 Do you?
00:41:39.000 Can you think
00:41:40.260 of how he
00:41:41.600 could accomplish
00:41:42.140 that?
00:41:43.100 Or do you
00:41:43.740 think people
00:41:44.340 would just say,
00:41:44.880 oh, it's a
00:41:45.360 good job, I'll
00:41:45.940 take it?
00:41:46.380 Because that
00:41:47.060 didn't happen
00:41:47.520 the first
00:41:47.920 term.
00:41:48.860 The first
00:41:49.460 term, there
00:41:49.840 were a lot
00:41:50.220 of people who
00:41:51.020 didn't want a
00:41:53.000 job in that
00:41:53.540 administration.
00:41:55.300 It feels like it
00:41:56.220 would be twice as
00:41:56.920 hard in the
00:41:57.340 second term.
00:41:58.200 Because even
00:41:58.800 if there were a
00:42:00.180 lot of people
00:42:00.540 who agreed with
00:42:01.160 Trump so they
00:42:01.840 were willing to
00:42:02.380 work with him,
00:42:03.540 even those same
00:42:04.400 people don't
00:42:04.940 agree with him
00:42:05.600 about January
00:42:06.500 6th in most
00:42:07.480 cases.
00:42:11.840 Well, you're
00:42:12.620 always going to
00:42:13.060 get somebody to
00:42:13.940 apply.
00:42:14.320 I'm not saying
00:42:15.320 that there
00:42:15.780 wouldn't be
00:42:16.100 any applicants.
00:42:17.460 I'm saying
00:42:17.920 that you're
00:42:18.500 not going to
00:42:18.860 get the top
00:42:20.940 cream of the
00:42:21.540 crop.
00:42:22.040 That's a
00:42:22.340 problem, isn't
00:42:22.860 it?
00:42:23.780 Now, what
00:42:24.280 about DeSantis?
00:42:25.920 DeSantis
00:42:26.560 could.
00:42:28.660 Right?
00:42:29.480 Because DeSantis
00:42:30.160 is actually
00:42:30.920 developing a
00:42:32.020 almost bulletproof,
00:42:35.820 really it is
00:42:36.520 bulletproof.
00:42:36.900 I think DeSantis
00:42:38.020 has the best
00:42:39.700 bulletproof set
00:42:42.000 of conservative
00:42:43.160 policies and
00:42:44.320 actions that
00:42:45.660 I've seen.
00:42:46.740 It looks pretty
00:42:47.560 solid.
00:42:48.880 So, as much
00:42:52.880 as I like a
00:42:54.060 lot of what
00:42:54.700 Trump has done
00:42:55.900 and could do,
00:42:57.440 you'd have to
00:42:58.180 ask yourself if
00:43:00.340 DeSantis would
00:43:01.120 be more of a
00:43:01.880 Trump than
00:43:02.300 Trump.
00:43:02.620 it's a fair
00:43:04.840 question.
00:43:07.320 So,
00:43:09.400 by the way,
00:43:14.800 does anybody
00:43:15.220 disagree with
00:43:16.280 me about
00:43:18.060 the staffing
00:43:18.760 thing?
00:43:19.360 I get that
00:43:20.120 he could staff
00:43:21.580 up somehow.
00:43:25.020 I've got a
00:43:25.940 little disagreement
00:43:26.660 there, a lot
00:43:27.500 of disagreement.
00:43:29.220 Yeah.
00:43:29.700 I mean, we
00:43:30.100 don't really
00:43:30.460 know.
00:43:30.820 It's just one
00:43:31.260 of those
00:43:31.500 factors.
00:43:32.620 Disagree?
00:43:35.020 No?
00:43:35.600 Okay.
00:43:36.560 All right.
00:43:37.140 Ladies and
00:43:37.560 gentlemen,
00:43:38.980 normally, when
00:43:40.960 it's a faster
00:43:41.960 news day, or
00:43:43.600 there's more
00:43:43.940 news, I would
00:43:45.500 stay on here
00:43:46.020 longer.
00:43:47.340 But, oh,
00:43:48.120 we've got 45
00:43:48.880 minutes.
00:43:49.240 That's pretty
00:43:49.580 good.
00:43:50.500 And you
00:43:54.700 prefer
00:43:55.080 Schellenberger.
00:43:56.900 You know,
00:43:57.500 maybe Schellenberger
00:43:58.300 will be president
00:43:58.980 someday.
00:43:59.800 He's got to
00:44:00.220 make it as
00:44:01.140 governor first
00:44:01.900 of California.
00:44:03.340 And by the
00:44:03.680 way, I
00:44:04.080 haven't heard
00:44:04.460 anybody who's
00:44:05.200 looked at his
00:44:05.940 platform.
00:44:08.140 This is Michael
00:44:08.720 Schellenberger running
00:44:09.620 as an independent
00:44:10.500 for governor of
00:44:11.820 California.
00:44:13.260 And what's
00:44:13.980 different is he's
00:44:14.560 bringing very
00:44:15.000 specific plans.
00:44:17.340 He's written books
00:44:17.900 about it,
00:44:18.380 researched it.
00:44:19.400 So he's the
00:44:19.960 most qualified in
00:44:21.460 terms of knowing
00:44:22.120 how to fix these
00:44:23.420 specific problems.
00:44:25.360 And I'd love to
00:44:26.080 see if that model
00:44:26.820 ever catches on.
00:44:27.760 Like, if he
00:44:29.200 wins, think of
00:44:31.540 the precedent.
00:44:33.380 Imagine the
00:44:34.120 precedent if
00:44:36.300 Michael Schellenberger
00:44:37.220 wins.
00:44:38.460 First precedent
00:44:39.400 is that, you know,
00:44:41.740 an independent can
00:44:42.660 win.
00:44:43.400 I mean, Jesse
00:44:43.880 Ventura did, but
00:44:44.880 I think that was a
00:44:45.680 special case.
00:44:47.160 So it's unusual.
00:44:48.400 I mean, they can.
00:44:49.440 They can do it, but
00:44:50.440 it's unusual.
00:44:50.880 So it would make
00:44:53.080 that more likely.
00:44:53.920 That might be good.
00:44:55.220 But it would also
00:44:55.900 make the idea of
00:44:58.260 capable leadership
00:45:00.240 based on knowing
00:45:01.760 how to get things
00:45:02.480 done and, you
00:45:03.640 know, really
00:45:04.280 researching and
00:45:05.000 stuff.
00:45:05.480 It might make
00:45:06.060 that a thing.
00:45:07.640 What if that
00:45:08.220 becomes a thing?
00:45:09.160 Wouldn't that be
00:45:09.640 good?
00:45:18.020 Yeah.
00:45:19.420 I want to just,
00:45:20.420 I saw a comment
00:45:21.040 on locals.
00:45:22.180 I'm pretty sure
00:45:23.120 that I did not
00:45:23.880 have a bad
00:45:24.760 mushroom trip.
00:45:26.200 What I had was
00:45:27.160 something that
00:45:27.600 probably wasn't
00:45:28.320 mushrooms.
00:45:29.740 That's what I
00:45:30.440 think happened.
00:45:32.120 So if you're
00:45:33.200 thinking that I
00:45:33.980 had a bad trip,
00:45:34.760 I don't think I
00:45:35.260 did.
00:45:36.060 I just had a bad
00:45:36.820 experience with
00:45:37.560 something that
00:45:38.100 probably wasn't
00:45:38.840 what I thought it
00:45:39.400 was.
00:45:41.100 All right.
00:45:45.800 There's a
00:45:46.380 Rasmussen poll
00:45:47.400 about, really?
00:45:48.920 Or you think
00:45:51.440 there should be
00:45:51.980 one?
00:45:57.660 It was a
00:45:58.400 deliriant.
00:45:59.700 I don't know
00:46:00.040 what that means
00:46:00.820 exactly.
00:46:02.240 All right.
00:46:02.600 That's all for
00:46:03.000 now.
00:46:03.500 And I'll hit
00:46:04.020 decaf.
00:46:05.320 They're decaf
00:46:06.220 mushrooms.
00:46:07.040 All right.
00:46:08.200 We talked
00:46:08.820 about Elon's
00:46:09.460 tweet about Bill
00:46:10.040 Gates yesterday.
00:46:14.860 All right.
00:46:16.680 That's it for now.
00:46:17.280 I'll talk to you
00:46:17.860 tomorrow.
00:46:18.080 Thank you.