Episode 1727 Scott Adams: Free Speech, Canceling Student Debt, Elon Musk and More Fun
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The dopamine hit of the day! Also, a new wrinkle in the DeSantis vs. Disney debate, and a new deal with Florida over their $11B in debt. Plus, the dopamine hit you've all been waiting for.
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Good morning, everybody. How's everybody today? Good? Good? Would you like to enjoy something
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called the Simultaneous Zip and start your day off in a way that, I don't know, is just the
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best thing ever? Probably. Probably you do. And all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass of
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tanker, chalice, or stein, a canteen jug or flask, a vessel of any kind, except for a Russian tank.
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We'll talk about that later. Turns out that Russian tanks are a vessel that maybe not hold your coffee
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so well. And would you like to join me now for the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes
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everything better? It's amazing. Your oxytocin is already starting to rise. Are you ready for this?
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Ah, yeah. It feels like a tickle on the neck. It's like a sneeze in the forest. It's like
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your favorite food when you've been starving. That's how good the Simultaneous Zip is.
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And believe me, if that is that good, imagine how much the content will delight you. Well,
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more than I can even express. Let's talk about that. So I was accused of being insensitive for
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making the following comment on Twitter, that now when I see masked people, if they're alone,
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alone in the car or just walking alone somewhere, obviously just exercising, taking a walk.
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I no longer think that those are cautious people or immunocompromised. I kind of think that it's
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signaling some type of mental illness. Now, people said, you're unkind. You're unkind. No, I'm not.
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I'm literally showing empathy. Maybe I don't do it well. Do I do it wrong? I'm showing empathy.
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I'm not judging them or disliking them. I'm saying I'm deeply alarmed at how many people are,
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in my opinion, my uneducated, non-expert opinion, are signaling an actual mental illness that probably
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has great consequences in their lives. Now, I imagine a lot of them are germphobes. Imagine,
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just imagine how hard it would have been to be a germphobe, germaphobe, going through the pandemic.
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What could have been harder than that? I mean, that's like a disaster that was designed just
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to torture a certain group of people, especially hard. So, no, I have only empathy for them. But
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the shocking part, so this is not about, hey, you people take off your masks. That's been done to
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death. So, I'm not giving an opinion whether they should take them off or not. That's their business.
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I'm just saying that I'm alarmed at what looks like the most visible signal yet of mental illness.
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Because a lot of mental illness is invisible, right? Unless you know the person personally,
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you don't necessarily see it. You know, they're just walking down the streets and
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the mentally ill look exactly like everybody else for the most part. But if they have to put out an
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article of clothing that indicates they're in that group of people, which unfortunately is
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gigantic, who are having serious life-affecting mental illnesses. And when you see it visually
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like this, at least that's what it says to me. Now, some of you are saying, Scott, Scott, Scott,
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they just left their mask on because they're walking from one place to another. No, I'm not talking
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about those. I'm not talking about the people in the parking lot at the grocery store or actually
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at the parking lot, let's say, the doctor's office. Yeah, I mean, they just walked out and
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forgot to take their mask off. But for the most part, I'm talking about people walking for
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recreation, just away from everybody. I'm talking about people in their car alone. I don't know.
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I think that that is not a case of people who are immunocompromised, in most cases. I think
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that's something else. Well, here's a new wrinkle in the DeSantis versus Disney thing. Apparently,
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there's some kind of clause in their agreement where Disney got this special control over their
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own territory. Apparently, if Florida takes over for Disney, they would also take over their debt.
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So Florida would have to accept a billion dollars in debt that Disney itself was somehow satisfying.
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And so I say to myself, huh, didn't see that coming. Now, I don't necessarily mean to think
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that that means it can't work, because if it's a bond debt, then something is servicing it. So
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I assume that they would get whatever is servicing it, as well as the debt itself. So you shouldn't
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necessarily stop the deal, but it might slow it down, because they have to work that out. So
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we'll see. Maybe there is some technical reason why this can't happen that nobody saw until now.
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Let's talk about canceling student debt, which, by the way, isn't a real thing.
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You don't really cancel debt. When you hear that word, people think, oh, hey, there's an idea.
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Why don't you take this thing that's bad, this debt, and just make it go away? Just cancel it.
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Cancel it's just a word. Just take out your books and just delete that number. Why not? Why not?
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If it's bad, and you can cancel it, why wouldn't you cancel something that's bad? Right? Am I right?
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It's as simple as that. How about death? Nobody likes death. Here's what I say. Cancel it.
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Why don't we cancel it? Oh, if you're pro-death, go ahead and argue that point, you fascist.
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Not me. I want to cancel it. How about cancer? We've been trying to come up with cures for cancer.
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Done pretty well, actually. But there's still a lot that are incurable.
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Until now, cancel it. Just cancel it. How about that?
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The war in Ukraine looks like an impossible situation, doesn't it?
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Can anybody guess how I would fix the problem in Ukraine?
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Because when you cancel something, it just goes away.
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Are there any other problems we can just cancel and make them go away?
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That's not a thing. You're just transferring it.
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You're transferring it from the people who got the benefit and made the decision to take on the debt
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to the people who paid off their debt or didn't go to college
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or have similar problems of a different nature and don't need your problem.
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If the person who borrowed it doesn't pay it back, well, then the lender eats it.
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I mean, it's sort of a less direct way, but the lender is still going to eat it.
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And you know for a fact the bank will not be eating the debt.
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In this case, I assume it's the taxpayer, right?
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Is there any model other than the taxpayer would eat it?
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Now, it doesn't mean that they eat it as in a normal way.
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It could be that it's just an asset they thought they have that they no longer have.
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So if you say, I have an asset called people are going to give me a trillion dollars or 1.7 trillion.
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So my asset is, I have this 1.7 trillion dollars that people owe me.
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And that's got to be taken into account when you figure out your total budget, etc.
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So, as long as we allow the people who want to do this to call it canceling a debt,
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then all the dumb people are going to think, well, that's free.
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Well, let's get some of that cancellation going.
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We've got to, it's got to change to, you know, move the debt to those who did not move it.
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Because, you know, I get that it could be legalized, because the government, if they make it legal, then technically it's not theft.
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If it feels like theft and walks like a duck and talks like a duck.
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If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be a duck.
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To which I say, only if you haven't been alive for the last five years would you think that.
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Today, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's probably fucking fake news.
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Things that look exactly the way they're supposed to be are almost always wrong now.
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In the old days, if it looked like a duck and quacked like a duck, well, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, there was a good chance that was a freaking duck.
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But in 2022, you could take the DNA of the duck, and you still wouldn't be sure.
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Because you'd be like, I don't know, who took that DNA?
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I feel as if the DNA test of the duck might have been rigged.
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So if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it doesn't mean a damn thing.
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But it definitely doesn't mean anything in 2022.
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Well, so here's, let me do a, I think it's called a steel man argument.
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But don't you think it's interesting to hear the best argument on the other side?
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Because I know we like to, you know, play as a team.
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Here's the best argument for canceling the debt.
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The people who took on the debt, why did they do it?
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Did they do it from something called free will?
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Well, did they look at the situation and just like you did and I did in some cases, did they
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make a decision and their decision maybe was different than yours, but, and now they think
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Do you know why children grow up to think that education is important?
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The education system tells people that education is good and that they should go get some and
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So, every one of those people who borrowed money from the government was brainwashed by
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the government from childhood to borrow that money.
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It's a better argument than you thought, isn't it?
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I mean it literally, literally, literally, the way literally is actually supposed to be
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I mean, you could get any expert to say, what happens when you take young children and consistently
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tell them that education is good and the college is the best of all and it's so good that you
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should do anything you can do to get there because don't even let money stop you, damn
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Now, of course, not every kid is, you know, ideally suited for a college track.
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So, those kids were brainwashed but it didn't matter because their track was not going to
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But for those people who were, let's say they had the capability to get good grades and the
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capability to go to college, at least in terms of scholastic achievement, those people were all
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How many of them were told, you know, if you just get a good trade education and learn things
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that you need to learn on your own, just as good?
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Do you think there was any teacher in any school that said, look, kids, education is
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highly, you know, highly prized in our society, but realistically, realistically, if you learned
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a trade and it was the right trade and you worked hard, you'd do great because lots of
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There are tons of people who just do great without a college education.
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Was that a message that those kids were getting?
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So, when brainwashed people get a loan, whose fault is that?
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Is that the fault of the person who got the loan?
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Well, you could argue that it's the fault of the system that hypnotized them and you and
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I are all part of that system, especially if you're an adult.
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If you're an adult, you are supporting the system that brainwashed children into getting
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But wait, isn't that what the muggers say, too?
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I was born into a system that did not give me a fair chance.
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So, the counter to my argument, my excellent argument that children were brainwashed into
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getting these is that, unfortunately, you can use that argument for just everything.
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Everybody's brainwashed into everything because it's true.
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Again, literally used the way literally is meant to.
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It doesn't mean there's an intention involved, but the effect is brainwashing.
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But I do wonder, what would be the benefit of getting this through before an election happens?
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Suppose Biden and the Democrats are successful and they get this pushed through before the midterms.
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What would be the political point of doing it before the election?
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Because, let's say young people are primarily the ones with these loans.
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Name a young person who gets a benefit already, and then months later, you say, hey, you already
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It's really basically the only thing you cared about.
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But also, I'd like you to take a day off from work or whatever and go vote.
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I think once they got their benefit, they're done.
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Do you think people are going to say, oh, the Democrats gave me the one thing I wanted,
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But I'm not sure exactly how it works politically.
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Because it's not like passing the infrastructure bill or something like that, where you say
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But if you just give something to somebody, and it's a one-time deal, well, then they just
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It's no longer part of the decision-making, is it?
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I mean, you want the competent leadership, but I think you would just call that a one-off
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and say, yay, pocket the money, and you wouldn't change your vote one bit, I don't think.
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Here's a statistic I saw, that three-quarters of the student debt is held by, do you know
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What demographic holds three-quarters of the student debt?
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So women are three-quarters of the student debt, which means that the Democrats will forgive
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If you were going to predict what the Democratic Party will do, all you have to do is look
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And I feel like they're just going to be drawn to that.
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Yeah, maybe they'll forgive the debt for women only.
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Do you think it's fair that white men also get their debt forgiven?
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Because I wonder what the racial composition of the debt holders is.
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Why is it that I saw an article saying 75% of it is women, but the same article didn't
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mention the ethnic breakdown, which seems really, really important?
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Would the entire thing be killed if the Republicans point out it primarily helps white people?
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Well, if the ethnic mix of student loans is overweighted with white debties, debtors, what do you call them?
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And it's very interesting that we are denied that knowledge when we're given such related knowledge.
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It makes it look intentional that we don't know the racial background.
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I saw a comment from a Twitter user, Patrick Chauvinik, and he tweeted this, talking about
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putting Trump back on Twitter, and he was pointing out it's not just a free speech issue,
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that Trump was booted off Twitter for more than his opinion.
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It is worth noting that Twitter banned Donald Trump from the site in the immediate aftermath
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of the mob attack he inspired on the Capitol on Jan 6.
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It's not as though they just disproved of his opinions.
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Do you think that Trump was booted off Twitter for his opinions, or was he booted off because
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I said, this is the type of common misinformation that a Musk-owned Twitter could correct, you
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It is legal and appropriate to inspire a protest to demand an audit of an election that looked
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Now, I'm going to say that Patrick Chauvinik is probably somebody who follows the news.
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But if he followed the news that was, you know, right, I'm sorry, left-leaning, he would
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think that there was an insurrection and that the president inspired that insurrection.
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And that would be the common opinion of people who consume CNN and MSNBC.
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The cases that Trump inspired, he inspired a protest, which is completely legal, it's
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Because it was such a strong intuition that it had been rigged, and so obviously, from the
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Now, I'll agree that the courts have seen no evidence to prove that case.
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You may have seen some evidence that you think proves it, but the courts have not.
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I mean, I don't know if anything happened or not.
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I just know that hasn't been proven in the courts.
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So, if you were Patrick, you probably did not know that although there were certainly
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some bad actors in the group, had anybody ever explained to you that if it had been intended
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to be an insurrection, it would have been armed, and it wasn't.
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I mean, except for some clubs and some random stuff like bear spray, I guess.
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If the plan had been an insurrection, there would have been weapons.
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And secondly, how do you take over a country by occupying a building?
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Like, whose news source ever explained that to Patrick?
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Patrick, even if they had weapons, which they didn't, even if they had planned to take over
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the country for which there's no evidence whatsoever, because 100% of what everybody was saying
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Now, whether that was legal or not is separate from the fact that they were trying to get it done.
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And, you know, the entire thing was just completely different from the way the left portrayed it.
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And I wonder if an Elon Musk Twitter could help people like Patrick, who are so poorly served by their media.
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The people on the right almost always know the news on the left, because it's so pervasive.
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And the news on the right tends to react to the news on the left.
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If you watch the right, you tend to at least be exposed to both sides.
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But if you watch only the left, they won't even tell you that the Hunter Biden laptop is real.
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Now, that's not to say that the news on the right is all correct.
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But there's a real difference in how much their viewers are exposed to the opposite arguments.
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So did I see in the news that the Biden administration is creating a ministry of truth?
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I think it's a department, there's going to be a department in Homeland Security to create a disinformation governance board dedicated to, quote, countering misinformation.
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Yeah, this is where the people like me who say, don't worry about the slippery slope, there will always be something that pops up to stop things from slipping too far.
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Yeah, I mean, things always do go too far, but then they correct.
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I would say critical race theory and some of that stuff is probably going too far, and it's in the process of self-correcting.
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But I have to admit, I am actually completely surprised that we got all the way to the ministry of truth,
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where the government will pretend to tell you what is true and what is not.
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And I thought, honestly, I mean, it just looks like a joke, doesn't it?
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Because if what they do is fact-checking, that's not going to work, is it?
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The government is exactly the entity you expect to lie, especially if they're associated with a political party.
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You know, if they're associated with a political party, they should be the most lyingest people in the game, history suggests.
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So when you take the most lyingest people, playing loosely with language here, and you say,
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we'll take the people who are most definitely the biggest liars in the world,
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we'll staff it with some people who have a history of actually some sketchy behavior when it comes to the truth,
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just to make it have no credibility whatsoever, and we'll put it under the Homeland Security to make it sound scary and important,
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to make it even sound more evil than anything we've ever done in the history of the United States.
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I would be worried about this, except that it's so ridiculous, I don't know how anybody will ever take it seriously.
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What I worry about is if it's more than fact-checking.
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What happens if they start leaning on private companies?
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Suppose they start leaning on Fox News and say, you know,
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eh, the, what do they call them, the disinformation governance board has ruled that Tucker Carlson can't frame the issue that way.
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If they're either going to try to persuade private industry to say different things,
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or they're going to be fact-checkers, and all of that's worthless.
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It's sort of mind-boggling, and I feel like it's just giving something to the Republicans.
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There have to be some Democrats who still like freedom.
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I have to think that this is the sort of thing that carves off another 1% of Democrats, or independents maybe.
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Like, you just lost 1% of your side with this, didn't you?
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You don't think even 1% of the Democrats are looking at this and saying, uh, yeah, I kind of like Democrat policies, but, uh, the disinformation governance board?
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Now, you say they're brainwashed, but I say, yeah, 99%.
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But I feel like 1%, just 1% would say, ah, that's too far.
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Chinese drone maker DJI, that's the biggest drone-making company.
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So I think by far the biggest percentage of drones is made by this one Chinese company, DJI.
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So the Ukrainians were using them, but now I guess there's a pullback because there was some glitch in the software that somehow gave Russians some advantage, some information about the drones.
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And so, so China makes the drones, they sell them to their ally's enemy, that's Ukraine, but they actually work to help the Russians identify something.
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So, yeah, it's pretty much exactly the way you'd imagine it would go.
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So I guess they're, they're going to pull back from supplying them.
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All right, so at this point, the Ukrainians do not have enough shoulder missiles, so they don't have anti-tank missiles enough, because they're not made anymore.
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So whatever the world's supply is of those, probably the available ones are already being sucked up.
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So they're going to run out of the good missiles.
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They're going to run out of, I think, the Turkish drones, the good ones, you know, the big ones.
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Their air force is probably down to not much of anything.
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And now their drones, which were really sort of their secret weapon, may also be depleted.
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I don't know how many they have, but they're not getting more.
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And it seems to me that Russia would be able to resupply better than Ukraine eventually.
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But eventually, I would think Russia would be able to get their supply lines up and running.
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So I saw a retired General McCaffrey on Fox, I guess, say that he thinks Russia will basically own Ukraine in 90 days.
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Or do you think there'll be a permanent guerrilla force that'll be so powerful that Russia will always have to just stay in their little bases?
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Well, if there's one thing you can predict about a war, it is.
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What's the one thing you can predict about wars?
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They always last longer than you think, don't they?
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They're unpredictable in general, but the one thing you can predict is they never end when you think they're going to end.
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And I wonder, who's going to pay for the rebuilding of Ukraine?
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Isn't it better for the United States if Putin takes it over?
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If Ukraine, let's say, wins in the sense that they stay independent,
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who's going to pay to rebuild them and then rearm them?
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Ukraine doesn't have money, and we're not going to just leave them there as rubble.
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Because if we leave them as rubble, they'll just get reattacked.
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Putin will just take a year and go back and do it again, because it's just rubble by that time.
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So it seems to me that if the United States and Europe win, meaning Ukraine survives,
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So now let's say that Russia conquers Ukraine and owns it.
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Who pays for rebuilding Ukraine once Russia owns it?
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Well, you know, the part about the wheat is the cheapest part,
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because that's just like tractors and roads and grain storage, right?
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I mean, the whole economy is broken, basically.
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I hate to bring this up, but the United States is better off if Ukraine loses at this point,
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And if Russia broke it, they've got to buy it, right?
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So would the United States and Europe be better off if Russia is crippled by its conquest of Russia,
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wouldn't it basically make Russia an ineffective fighting force for a long time?
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And I think there would be a long-term move toward squeezing them out of the energy game.
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So I feel as though the United States may have cynically played an unusually effective game here.
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If our goal was to degrade Russia and just take them off the page,
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if that was the goal, then it looks like well played.
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But if that was not the goal, well, then it was just a gigantic mistake.
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So I think we have to start asking a tough question,
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which is, is the United States better or worse off if Ukraine loses?
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And I'm not saying that, you know, I don't have empathy for the Ukrainians,
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I just don't know what's better for them at this point.
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Well, I saw on CNN that Russian tanks have a little problem,
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So there's a design flaw in the Russian tanks, say the experts,
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where a minor hit on the tank will explode the munitions,
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and then the munitions will blow the turret, you know, two stories in the air,
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and obviously kill the people who are within it.
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So it turns out that a tank is the least safe place to be
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because any kind of a serious hit on the tank makes it explode on its own.
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I mean, I don't know how you protect munitions in a tank,
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but I guess there's a better way to do it, and they do it the bad way.
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Okay. So Russia might be losing a lot of tanks,
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but do they need all those tanks to control Ukraine?
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Scott doesn't like CNN. He loves it, they say on the comments.
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I heard that even the newer Russian tanks have the same design flaw.
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The old ones and the new ones have the same design flaw.
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people are quickly changing the algorithms and stuff?
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But you don't think that that would be easily discoverable,
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Has anybody heard anything like that from insiders?
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Have any insiders said there's any sabotage going on?
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It sounds like the sort of thing people talk about doing
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and his staff took all the W's on the keyboards.
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I mean, maybe little stuff like keyboards and stuff.
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for people who want to talk about my personal life.
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So, well, I appreciate that you have interest in it.
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Don't assume there's a problem that needs to be fixed.
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And remember, by the time that you hear about anything,
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I don't think either of us are suffering any loneliness.
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And let's talk some more about Elon Musk's tweets.
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Next, I'm buying Coca-Cola to put the cocaine back in.
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and extending consciousness into Mars and space.
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I mean, he takes those things pretty seriously.
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of the, you know, how seriously any of this should be,
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I like the fact that he doesn't take any of us seriously.
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The stuff that doesn't need to be taken seriously.
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is people being serious about non-serious stuff
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and not being serious about really serious stuff.
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He's literally the opposite of everybody on Twitter.
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Because he takes seriously the big, big, big stuff like AI.
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I mean, he's talking about artificial intelligence, you know,
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being dangerous and bringing humans to off worlds.
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And they're not the biggest accounts in the world.
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I mean, Cernovich is one of the biggest accounts.
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And I just love how personal he's made Twitter.
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He's doing the most, you know, important things.
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and there's a pretty good chance he'll respond.
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It uses the same characters over and over again.
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And trust me, if you don't already know what it means,
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All right, I feel bad because I know I just made a bunch of you
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look up horrible things that you'll now have in your minds.
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All right, is there anything else we need to talk about today?
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I'm going to look at your comments for a moment, shall we?
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Oh, Elon Musk also tweeted that Truth Social was a terrible name.
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I don't think Trump wanted it to be like a Trump-branded thing,
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because I don't think that would necessarily have helped him.
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that Trumpet would, you know, would have been a better name.
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War winners are invariably stronger after the war.
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Okay, we have a comment that the winners of wars
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no matter how degraded they get when they win the war,
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I would agree that that would be the long-term outcome,
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or maybe we'll forget what horrible things he did,
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and Russia will re-enter the economy at some point
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So I'm going to agree with it on a concept level,
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I think that they will be economically degraded
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So I'm going to argue that they will be worse off
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probably makes a stronger Russia in the long, long term.
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All it would take is a reversal on the sanctions,
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because I think, yeah, that's not going to fly.
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Russia would be fine because they have resources
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That's what keeps them from being completely dissolved.
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to have alternative sources to Russia's resources?
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So I think that Russia may have the ability to sell,
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I guess for decades there's going to be a market
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countries will work to avoid NATO's fears of influence.
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I think it's time that we take this to a conclusion.