Episode 1767 Scott Adams: Let's Talk About The January 6 Hearings And All Of That Badness
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Summary
On today's show, we're talking about the January 6th hearings, the long-term impact of the protests, and whether or not the economy is headed into a Depression. Plus, a new poll shows that 55% of Americans believe the U.S. will enter a Depression in the next few years.
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And today we're going to be talking about January 6th stuff and all kinds of stuff.
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And before we get going, how would you like to take it up a level with a simultaneous sip?
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All you need is a cup or a mug or a glass of tank or a chalice or a canteen jug or a flask or a vessel of any kind.
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I wish I had a nickel for every time somebody said, I'm glad to hear that you've not been frozen in carbonite.
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So on Thursday, there's going to be this live telecast from Congress of the January 6th hearings.
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And I was too sleepy this morning to correctly do my, what would have been one of the greatest tweets of all time.
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But instead will be a tweet that I'm going to delete right now.
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Because I can't have that thing up for another minute.
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So I'll tell you what I was supposed to say that it didn't say at all.
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I said, should Fox News do live coverage of the long COVID telethon Congress is holding on Thursday?
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That would have been really clever if I had tweeted it after I had some coffee.
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And when I realized that the pun is really long TDS and not long COVID.
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If you take out the TDS part, it doesn't make any sense at all.
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And so I was a little too tired when I tweeted that.
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God, that could have been such a good tweet, too.
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But the idea was that this is going to look like a long TDS telethon.
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The January 6th thing already seems like it's the last pandemic.
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It's like we're past the pandemic or whatever the protests were on January 6th.
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But now we're just into the long aftermath of it, the long haul TDS.
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And it's going to feel like that when you watch it.
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It's going to feel like you went back in the past or something.
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Because to me, it already feels like a long time ago.
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Do you feel that the January 6th event, the original event, it just feels like it's ancient history already.
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But they will make it new and fresh by putting it on TV.
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According to Rasmussen, 55% of American adults, this is not just voters, but adults in America,
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believe it is likely the United States will enter a 1930s-like depression over the next few years.
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I feel like this number is big because people don't know the difference between a recession and a depression.
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So recessions are sort of, you know, a built-in maintenance part of the system and not really something I would worry too much about.
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But a depression can just take you off the map.
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I mean, you know, even the Great Depression was, what was the unemployment rate during the Great Depression in the 30s?
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Yeah, I'm not so good with my history, but I think mid-20s.
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And if you think about it, that's still 75% of the people had jobs.
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So the worst our economy ever was, 25% of the people were unemployed.
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Because don't you think there are a lot of people who could work who would just decide not to, but in the old days they all had to?
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I feel like we've got way more than 25% of able-bodied people who are not working.
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It's just they don't want to or don't need to or something.
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So I wonder if those are even comparable numbers.
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In other words, the Great Depression had 25% of the, let's say, the least employable people, one assumes.
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At least during that situation, they were the least employable.
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And you saw during the pandemic that we took our least employable people and just sent them money and kept them home.
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And it didn't affect the economy that much except for inflation.
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So I don't think that comparing things works exactly, at least to the 30s.
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And I don't think that the public knows the difference between a recession and a depression.
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But what I worry about is that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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But it's a self-fulfilling prophecy when companies start pulling back in anticipation of problems in the future.
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And then they're pulling back today is what actually causes the problem in the future.
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But it doesn't look like most companies are pulling back too much, does it?
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So talking about January 6th, and we'll be talking about election fraud, real and alleged.
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And here's the arguments that you're going to see in the next week, because this January 6th thing is happening.
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You're going to hear people saying that the protesters who went to the Capitol were obviously trying to overthrow the country because there was no election fraud.
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And since there was no election fraud, the people protesting were only there to do something bad because the system worked the way it was supposed to and gave us a fair result.
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Now that's the framing that the left is putting on this.
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That's not even really close to what was happening.
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Number one, nobody knows if any fraud happened in 2024 that would have changed the election.
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What we do know is that the voting machines were vulnerable in ways we don't fully understand.
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And we do know that the system was not fully auditable and that it looked suspicious to a lot of Americans.
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We also know that the courts are not the right place to figure out if an election was fair.
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It can in some specific cases, but it's not an audit.
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The courts are only going to look at things that they have standing for.
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And when an election is done, the courts say, ah, we don't want to get involved.
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So when you say no court has found any fraud in the 2020 election, I keep confusing my ears, sorry,
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you could also say no Geiger counter has found any fraud in the 2020 election.
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You could turn on a million Geiger counters and none of them would indicate fraud in the 2020 election.
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You could also look at the oil level indicator on your car and it does not indicate there was any fraud in 2020.
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If you could look at the oil indicator of your car and it doesn't say anything about election fraud, well, we're done here.
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Oh, oh, you're saying that the oil meter in your car is completely unrelated in any way to an election's validity.
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The court, too, is a tool that has nothing to do with the election credibility.
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Unless somebody brought them the right question and then they had standing and none of that happened.
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So if you use the wrong tool to search for something and then you don't find it, the Democrats have concluded that if you use the wrong tool to search for something and don't find it, that's proof it doesn't exist.
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You know, there are lots of things in politics where you say, well, that's your narrative or you have different facts or different priorities or you're just playing politics.
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The people who are saying that because the courts did not find fraud, therefore there wasn't any, there is no other word for that.
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And I'm pretty generous with different political opinions.
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I don't want to say they're stupid most of the time.
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Lots of times they say, well, you've got a good point, but maybe I like these priorities better or I have different context or different information.
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But rarely can you look at it and say, look at something this cleanly and say, no, that's just stupid.
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If the courts didn't find any fraud, it's because they were the wrong tool.
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They were never the right tool to look for fraud.
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Gullibility is something we all are susceptible to.
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But you have to have a pretty deep level of stupidity to think that not finding something means it isn't there.
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That's, you should have learned that around sixth grade or so.
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So every time they talk about whether or not there was election fraud, and they try to connect that to the protests on January 6th, your answer should be the following.
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The question was, did the protesters believe there was enough of a signal for fraud just on the surface that they needed to look into it?
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And the answer is that's exactly what they thought.
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Most of the protesters thought it was obvious there was something going on.
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But to them, it looked like the signal was just blaring in a way that it had never done before.
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And those people, what their mental state was is the entire case.
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If their mental state was, we're not sure we got a fair election, let's delay just long enough to make sure it was fair, that's not an insurrection.
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And so, if you were the Republicans during these hearings, what you should do is move the attention away from whether or not there was election fraud
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to the question of whether the people had reason to believe that there was strong enough signal that it needed to be looked into,
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at least long enough to know if there's some major glaring problem here.
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Now, I would just keep hammering on the Democrats and saying, how do you know what the Republicans were thinking?
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Can you present some evidence of people's internal thoughts?
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Because if you put the people on there and ask them their internal thoughts, they would all say the opposite of what the Democrats were saying.
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They would all say, well, it looked like there might have been some fraud and we wanted to check it out.
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That won't even be close to what the Democrats say they were thinking.
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So, how can the Democrats make the case that it was an insurrection unless they can get even one protester to say,
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We didn't really care about the election outcome.
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It was just an excuse to overthrow the government.
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I don't believe they can find one person to testify to that, because I don't think it existed.
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And that's what the Republicans should just keep hammering on.
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Here's another thing the Republicans should hammer on.
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They should use the event, because it's obviously a show trial kind of thing.
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They should grandstand themselves, and they will.
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But specifically, they should say that the real victims here are the people who believed the fake news.
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I would read my hoax quiz into the record and say, here's the context for the January 6th event.
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Here are ten major hoaxes that the Democrats played on the country and largely got away with them.
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Now, if these ten hoaxes were not known hoaxes, would you believe that this election was fraudulent?
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So I would put one of the people who protested on the witness stand, if there is such a thing,
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and I would say, if I'm a Republican, I'd say, were you there to overthrow the government?
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And I thought it looked like it needed protecting.
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Because you could put on a hundred of them, and they would all say the same thing.
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Now, if they said to one of the protesters, let me read the top ten hoaxes from the Scott Adams hoax quiz,
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and just read the hoaxes and say, is this the context in which you distrusted the election?
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Imagine being one of the protesters, and you just get to talk to Congress about what you're thinking.
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And Ted Cruz says, all right, here are the list of top ten hoaxes that were played on the country around this time.
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There was the Russia collusion hoax, you know, the fine people hoax.
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You just go down the list and say, you're aware that all those were hoaxes, right?
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Now, most Trump-supporting people will say, yes, I know those are all hoaxes, that they were all illegitimate Democrat efforts.
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And then you say, is this the context in which you wondered if, given that everything else was corrupt,
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is this the context in which you wondered if the election had been corrupt as well?
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If I had not seen the Steele dossier, I wouldn't even think an election could be rigged.
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If I had not seen so many hoaxes presented as truth, it wouldn't have even occurred to me to go to the Capitol.
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Because I would have thought, well, I guess I was just surprised at the outcome.
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But once the context is nothing but hoaxes, nothing but hoaxes.
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Why would you believe that the election was the only credible thing that happened in five years?
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What rational person would say, you know, every single entity in the government is corrupt, and we know that for sure,
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but not the election system that was run by 50 separate entities that have incredible incentive and lots of opportunity for cheating.
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But every other institution and government entity has been proven fraudulent, corrupt, and thoroughly disrespectful, but not the voting system.
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Wouldn't you love to see somebody just say what I just said in public?
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I mean, I think they're handing the Republicans.
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Now, can somebody tell me which Republicans get to talk in these January 6 hearings?
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Give me the real answer, because I need a real answer here.
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Because I want to know if there's anybody with talent on the Republican side.
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Is there no Republican on the committee, right?
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So, does that mean that no Republican gets to ask any questions?
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So, are you telling me that these hearings will happen without any legitimate Republican pushback?
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People are saying yes, that there will be no Republican pushback.
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Well, one assumes that the Republicans will make statements, at least during the breaks, right?
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So, anyway, I guess we need to know more about how this thing will run.
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But I would like to see Ted Cruz or somebody of that quality just rip them apart.
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Because they're really setting themselves up here to have the entire system put on trial.
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And I think that's what the Republicans should do.
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Because if there's one thing you could point to that would create a riot, it's the fake news.
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The Republicans didn't become the way they are because they watched Fox News.
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They got that way because they watched what the Democrats did to them for years.
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Now, I'm not saying Republicans haven't done bad things to Democrats, right?
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But from the point of view of the protesters, they've been victimized for years.
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Tucker Carlson is going to be counter-programming.
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So Fox News is going to run the hearings on their Fox Business channel, which is much smaller viewership.
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What do you think about the fact that Fox News ran the Benghazi hearings to death,
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whereas they're not going to run this on the main Fox News channel?
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And maybe we don't know exactly what happened there.
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But I don't feel like it was a hoax so much as just a tragedy.
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Now, there was that hoaxy part where they said it was caused by a film, right?
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But I don't think that was terribly important to what happened, was it?
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So the question is, does Fox News run programming that's basically built around hoaxes?
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You know, and there is a different quality to the Republicans being wrong versus the Democrats.
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The Democrats look like they literally just make stuff up.
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You know, the top ten hoaxes are literally just made up.
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And often they're made up based on a real event, but then they change the context to make it up.
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That feels really different than some of the things that the Republicans are alleged to have done.
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Because don't you think that the Republicans just believed everything that they said about Benghazi?
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Honestly, I never covered, didn't really pay attention to the Benghazi thing,
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because to me it just looked like political bullshit.
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Now, I agree that it had to be investigated to find out what the hell went wrong,
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But, yeah, Benghazi was not a hoax in any way that we think of hoaxes.
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But also, I don't think there was anything there.
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Except that they lied about, you know, the cause of it.
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But in terms of what happened for the responses and stuff,
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So, Elon Musk is putting the squeeze on Twitter,
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and he's saying that he'll walk away from his offer to buy it,
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if they can't give him internal data on spam and fake accounts.
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Now, I saw a bunch of people act as though this is some kind of a trick,
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and that maybe he didn't mean to buy Twitter at all,
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and it's based on the company having told you the truth.
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You make your offer based on the company having told you the truth
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in which you get to dig into that truth to make sure it's verified.
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no, we can't tell you the most important figure.
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that is the core engine of their entire profit model,
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he will buy the company for the price that he offered.
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If it turns out that he does get the information,
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You don't have to wonder what's going to happen here.