Real Coffee with Scott Adams - June 30, 2022


Episode 1790 Scott Adams: The News Is Mostly Lies Today. Who Are The Biggest Offenders?


Episode Stats

Length

45 minutes

Words per Minute

143.03114

Word Count

6,576

Sentence Count

484

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

In this episode of the podcast, Alex talks about how fake news is becoming more and more prevalent in the modern world, and how to deal with it. He also talks about the latest news out of Ukraine and Russia, and the weirdest thing he's ever done on social media.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 It's not giving me an error. Can anybody see me? Over on YouTube, do you see me?
00:00:14.160 Bum bum bum. Oh yes, okay. It looks like we're back online.
00:00:19.740 Well, you can't stop me, can you? Did you see the simultaneous sip?
00:00:23.480 Hope you didn't miss that. All right, we're back up and we're rocking now. Sound is good. Everything's good.
00:00:32.240 Well, let me give you a Ukraine update. The theme for today will be, all your news is fake.
00:00:41.020 It's probably the same theme every day. It's a little more obvious today, though. I guess it's the obviousness.
00:00:48.720 Did I not take the sip?
00:00:53.480 All right. I know my audience, and when you need the sip, you need the sip.
00:01:00.420 The simultaneous sip. It's the dopamine of the day. Go.
00:01:08.240 Luckily, I didn't spill all of it.
00:01:11.860 Well, yes, I've had a challenging technology day today so far.
00:01:17.460 So the news out of Ukraine is, you remember that little snake island?
00:01:20.380 There was some fake news. So the Russians were threatening the island.
00:01:25.540 They had Ukrainian defenders on it.
00:01:28.160 And the Ukrainian defenders, when told to surrender, they said, F you.
00:01:32.980 And then the fake news was that they were killed by the Russians or something.
00:01:39.160 And the real news was they were captured, I guess.
00:01:41.620 But Ukraine just took back Snake Island.
00:01:47.260 They basically just missile attacked it into oblivion.
00:01:52.080 And the Russians left.
00:01:54.300 Now, the reason the Russians left, according to the Russians, is
00:01:57.380 it was a goodwill gesture.
00:02:01.380 Russia says they abandoned the strategic outpost and they, quote, gesture of goodwill.
00:02:12.040 And the accompanying photo is the little island just completely on fire.
00:02:20.500 Literally, it's a photo of the island completely on fire.
00:02:23.300 It's just like there's nothing there but a burning ember.
00:02:25.620 But Russia left it as a gesture of goodwill as the U.N. looks to secure shipping corridors
00:02:33.360 amid increasing concerns over global food shortages.
00:02:38.700 So, like I told you, the theme today is not that it's fake news, because that's every day.
00:02:49.900 The theme is that the fake news isn't trying to be real anymore.
00:02:53.020 It's like they're not even trying anymore.
00:02:55.580 The stories are so just crazy.
00:03:01.160 Yep, it's a gesture of goodwill.
00:03:03.220 It's not a burning husk of nothing.
00:03:10.800 It's a gesture of goodwill.
00:03:15.240 So, here's something that just kind of snuck up on me.
00:03:18.400 You know, one of the things about Twitter is it makes the world really small.
00:03:21.120 Have any of you had an experience of being, getting retweeted or responded to by some famous
00:03:28.640 person on Twitter, and you said to yourself, whoa, did that just happen?
00:03:34.180 Like, somebody on the other side of the world who's famous just recognized me and retweeted me?
00:03:39.580 It just makes the world really small, doesn't it?
00:03:41.700 Because even if you haven't been retweeted, there are very big users who are famous for
00:03:49.220 other reasons who do read your comments.
00:03:52.080 They do read your comments.
00:03:53.300 Not all of them.
00:03:54.400 But it happens.
00:03:55.420 You know, you see Elon Musk often responds to just, you know, your everyday Twitter user
00:04:01.640 fairly routinely.
00:04:03.840 Although he's disappeared, hasn't he?
00:04:05.560 That's a story in itself.
00:04:06.700 But this morning, you know, I'm just tweeting away and responding to people, and I realized
00:04:13.380 that within the span of like two minutes on Twitter, I had directly interacted with a
00:04:19.500 member of Congress and a Playboy playmate.
00:04:24.100 And it was so routine.
00:04:26.440 It was just sort of an ordinary day.
00:04:28.040 It's like, oh, Thomas Massey, Congressman Massey just made a comment.
00:04:32.920 I'd like to comment on his comment.
00:04:34.880 And he commented back, and I commented back.
00:04:37.820 And then, you know, Jessica Vaughn, Playboy playmate from I don't know what year, but she
00:04:48.140 responded to some things I tweeted.
00:04:50.460 And I thought, how weird is it?
00:04:54.460 How weird is it that you can just reach into the world and some of the most, you know,
00:04:59.140 notable people in the world just reach back and say, hey, how you doing?
00:05:03.280 It's just the strangest experience.
00:05:05.480 It's hard to integrate it.
00:05:08.100 You can sort of observe it.
00:05:09.740 But even when it happens to me, I've mentioned this before, but it's the weirdest feeling.
00:05:14.500 When you are a public figure, you look at yourself like other people do sometimes, like not as
00:05:22.420 if it's you.
00:05:23.600 It's like you're watching it, too.
00:05:24.980 It's like, oh, I watched that, too.
00:05:27.380 I just got a better seat.
00:05:28.940 It's actually not like looking at yourself.
00:05:30.880 It doesn't internalize for some reason.
00:05:32.600 Um, Snopes, who often is accused of being biased toward the left, um, now we don't have to
00:05:43.220 wonder anymore.
00:05:44.400 If there was any doubt about that, I think today removed all doubt.
00:05:48.320 And I tweeted this so you can see it for yourself, but they were debunking the claim that the
00:05:54.580 Secret Service had, quote, officially debunked Hutchinson's testimony about Trump allegedly
00:06:02.920 trying to grab the steering wheel and, uh, and strangled the driver of his own car.
00:06:08.660 Again, again, everything is about, like Snake Island is just like the, the appetizer.
00:06:20.180 Do you need, do you need to do any research to know that Trump didn't try to grab the wheel of a moving car and strangle his driver?
00:06:29.320 He probably didn't.
00:06:31.980 I'm just guessing that that's fake news.
00:06:34.560 And sure enough, it was, you know, immediately debunked when Fox News reached out to the people who were involved,
00:06:40.860 as opposed, as opposed to the person who heard about it.
00:06:44.540 They reached out to the people who were directly there.
00:06:47.220 They said, nothing like that happened.
00:06:48.940 What?
00:06:49.640 No, nothing like that happened.
00:06:50.900 And Snopes, instead of, instead of dealing with the question of whether it happened, which you would think would be the thing that they would do, right?
00:07:03.080 Snopes is about what's true, what really happened.
00:07:06.640 So instead of asking, instead of debunking the question of whether Trump actually did that, which they could easily debunk by looking at the Fox News reports that say they talked to him and, nope, they said it didn't happen.
00:07:21.800 And I think some other news entities by now have talked to those same Secret Service people and all got the same answer.
00:07:28.080 Nope, never happened.
00:07:30.720 Right?
00:07:32.200 But, so the way Snopes handles it is to insert the word officially, because then they can say the Secret Service didn't say anything official about this.
00:07:44.500 Now, did you, would you catch that trick?
00:07:47.160 Like, if you were a casual consumer of the news, you'd say, ah, these Republicans are saying it's been debunked, but here's Snopes saying that the Secret Service did not, they did not officially debunk it.
00:08:00.680 No.
00:08:02.740 Because nobody needed to ask them.
00:08:05.640 You don't need to ask the Secret Service, you could actually talk to the people, the actual agents.
00:08:13.300 Why would you need to talk to the Secret Service when you have direct access and they're willing to testify and they're not holding back anything?
00:08:21.400 You could just go and ask them.
00:08:22.900 So, how does Snopes deal with the fact that Fox News, and probably others by now, have talked directly to the people involved and debunked it?
00:08:33.200 How would you handle that if you're trying to hide that fact?
00:08:35.920 The first thing they said about the news is that NBC tried to talk to the agents and didn't get a response.
00:08:47.520 Seriously.
00:08:51.260 Seriously.
00:08:52.780 That's actually what they did.
00:08:55.600 They actually reported that the person who didn't get a response, like that was the lead story.
00:09:02.200 Here's one that didn't get a response.
00:09:03.700 Now, shouldn't that be the first thing that they list in terms of the people trying to find out if it was true?
00:09:11.340 That shouldn't be the first thing.
00:09:13.180 I would have listed first the people who got a response.
00:09:17.820 Now, I've never been a professional editor, but I do some writing.
00:09:23.100 And it seems to me that the people who actually had information and responded,
00:09:27.060 those would be like right at the top of the things that you would list.
00:09:30.760 Not the people who tried and couldn't get a phone call returned.
00:09:34.500 That was NBC.
00:09:37.200 Now, again, this isn't like other fake news, is it?
00:09:42.360 This is so in your face.
00:09:44.820 It's so shameless that it's closer to gaslighting than fake news, isn't it?
00:09:50.400 Because gaslighting is when you're being told something so obviously not true,
00:09:58.140 but you're still being sold it that you think you must be crazy.
00:10:02.280 Because you can see it's obviously not true,
00:10:04.360 so if these people you trust are saying it's true,
00:10:08.140 well, maybe you must be crazy.
00:10:09.580 So that's what they're doing to us.
00:10:13.020 They've gone beyond your facts are wrong,
00:10:16.440 and they're all the way to you're crazy.
00:10:19.580 No.
00:10:20.680 This thing right in front of you, you don't see.
00:10:24.280 Let's talk to the people who don't have the story to fact-check it.
00:10:28.480 Seriously.
00:10:29.380 The fact-checking organization led off with the people who didn't have facts.
00:10:34.100 And that was, you know,
00:10:34.980 let's talk about the people who didn't get any information.
00:10:37.080 And then they talked about CBS in some related way, the same way.
00:10:43.520 All right.
00:10:47.920 Here's a statement that I want to see if you agree with.
00:10:50.560 This is from a Twitter user who calls himself fat, drunk, and stupid.
00:10:56.320 I'm not going to fact-check that, but there you are.
00:11:01.500 But the comment was one that I was wondering about too.
00:11:04.420 So I didn't see every moment of the testimony.
00:11:08.260 I saw the key parts.
00:11:10.480 But fat, drunk, and stupid says the car incident,
00:11:13.260 where Trump allegedly grabbed the steering wheel
00:11:16.060 and tried to strangle his own driver.
00:11:18.600 The car incident was the only aspect of her testimony
00:11:21.280 which was even arguably newsworthy
00:11:23.940 and made the front page of every left-wing media source.
00:11:27.480 But within 24 hours,
00:11:28.980 the driver of the car himself confirmed it was a lie.
00:11:31.520 Now, would you agree with that?
00:11:34.900 Would you agree that the only thing that was vaguely newsworthy
00:11:38.300 was the car incident?
00:11:42.760 I think you might be a little biased on this
00:11:44.760 because I think the left would say,
00:11:46.400 that's not the only newsworthy thing.
00:11:48.640 We'll talk about one other in a moment.
00:11:51.280 But this gets to the question of
00:11:53.520 how do you thwart laundry list persuasion?
00:11:57.120 And I talk about this a lot.
00:11:58.340 But every time you see an example of it,
00:12:00.580 it's worth seeing how it works or what the exception is.
00:12:04.420 So in this case,
00:12:05.840 you could say that Hutchinson's testimony,
00:12:08.860 and really the whole hearings,
00:12:10.740 are laundry list persuasion.
00:12:13.160 They're trying to come up with a long list of allegations
00:12:15.660 such that if you were to debunk one,
00:12:19.440 they could say,
00:12:20.560 all right, all right,
00:12:21.220 so even if that one's wrong,
00:12:22.600 what about all this other stuff?
00:12:23.860 And then you debunk another one,
00:12:26.820 and they say,
00:12:27.460 I disagree with you,
00:12:29.220 but it doesn't even matter
00:12:30.360 because look at all this other stuff.
00:12:33.040 And then you just go down the list,
00:12:34.660 and you debunk them all.
00:12:36.320 And what happens after you've debunked everything on the list?
00:12:41.060 Always.
00:12:42.280 What happens?
00:12:43.440 Does the person say,
00:12:44.320 wow,
00:12:45.240 I didn't realize that every single thing I believed was wrong,
00:12:47.940 but now your debunking has convinced me.
00:12:50.360 They go back to the start.
00:12:52.000 That's right.
00:12:53.620 They go back to the start of the list
00:12:56.320 and act like you didn't already talk about it and debunk it.
00:13:00.900 And you'll have to just do it again.
00:13:02.720 And if you do it again, it doesn't matter.
00:13:05.260 They'll just start yelling at you for being a bad person.
00:13:08.120 You just can't debunk a laundry list
00:13:10.300 because people will devolve into such irrational defenses.
00:13:16.240 So I've argued that what you should do
00:13:18.360 is take the strongest claim,
00:13:20.320 debunk it,
00:13:20.900 and say, well,
00:13:21.940 by your own description,
00:13:24.640 that was your strongest claim.
00:13:26.560 I've now debunked it,
00:13:28.240 so we're done.
00:13:31.180 And just leave it
00:13:32.240 and walk away
00:13:33.220 because there's nothing else you can do.
00:13:34.840 Now, that's not going to be a clean win,
00:13:36.540 but it's all you can do.
00:13:37.420 It's the best you can do.
00:13:39.360 And I'm going to talk about my own list
00:13:41.360 and do a call back to this in a little bit.
00:13:44.820 So here's one other thing that was on the list.
00:13:51.680 That when Trump said that they should take down
00:13:57.180 the magnometers or whatever they are,
00:14:00.020 the metal detectors,
00:14:02.800 what he said about it was,
00:14:05.480 they're not here to hurt me.
00:14:07.680 And then he followed up.
00:14:08.780 I saw this on a Twitter feed called the Haplar.
00:14:12.240 He said,
00:14:12.720 they can march to the Capitol from here.
00:14:15.660 They're not going to hurt me,
00:14:17.740 and they're going to march to the Capitol from here.
00:14:20.000 That was interpreted as Trump means,
00:14:23.880 like what Trump is thinking internally,
00:14:26.360 is that he wants to let people with weapons
00:14:28.240 into his event
00:14:29.300 so that then those weapons can be available
00:14:32.220 for marching on the Capitol.
00:14:33.960 Now, do the facts support that interpretation?
00:14:39.420 Yes.
00:14:40.200 Yes, they do.
00:14:41.940 Yeah, they do.
00:14:42.700 That's why people are interpreting it that way,
00:14:45.320 because the facts do support that interpretation.
00:14:47.780 But you know what the problem is?
00:14:49.380 That's not the only interpretation they support.
00:14:52.760 The facts also support
00:14:54.420 completely other interpretations.
00:14:57.940 All right, here's my interpretations.
00:15:00.360 We know that Trump likes big crowds,
00:15:02.600 and we know that was the context.
00:15:05.520 He was saying,
00:15:06.200 my crowd isn't big enough
00:15:07.240 because the metal detectors
00:15:09.340 are slowing down the flow,
00:15:11.220 and it's a bad picture.
00:15:12.480 So this part is not in dispute.
00:15:15.100 We know he was obsessing over crowd size.
00:15:17.340 We know that he's always obsessed over it,
00:15:20.100 and he's not wrong about that.
00:15:22.360 He's not wrong.
00:15:23.360 Because when he sells his big crowd size,
00:15:26.360 it's part of,
00:15:27.920 what's the term,
00:15:30.280 like peer confirmation.
00:15:32.600 Right?
00:15:33.200 It's part of persuasion.
00:15:34.320 It's an important part.
00:15:35.580 It's a very important part.
00:15:37.200 If you think everybody's doing something,
00:15:39.100 then you think,
00:15:39.880 well, maybe I should do it too.
00:15:41.820 So he's not wrong
00:15:43.120 from a political persuasion perspective.
00:15:47.800 He wants big crowds,
00:15:49.020 and he wants the video to show it.
00:15:52.120 Right?
00:15:52.340 The video should accurately show it
00:15:54.020 is what he wants.
00:15:55.080 So we know that,
00:15:56.020 and there's no dispute
00:15:56.820 that he cares a lot about crowd size.
00:15:59.160 In fact,
00:16:00.540 he has been mocked mercilessly
00:16:02.380 for caring about crowd size
00:16:04.820 more than other things.
00:16:06.280 Am I right?
00:16:07.340 He has been mocked mercilessly,
00:16:09.100 by the left,
00:16:10.160 for caring too much about crowd size.
00:16:13.700 And here he is again,
00:16:15.780 caring so much about crowd size
00:16:17.860 that he was willing to take
00:16:19.720 some physical risk of dying.
00:16:24.280 Right?
00:16:24.760 Because he said,
00:16:25.580 they're not here to hurt me,
00:16:26.920 and he was right about that.
00:16:28.400 But still,
00:16:29.060 you would have to admit
00:16:29.800 there's a physical risk to a president
00:16:31.500 if somebody gets in with a weapon.
00:16:34.140 Right?
00:16:34.760 Has any president ever said,
00:16:36.640 stop checking for weapons,
00:16:37.940 I'm in public?
00:16:39.600 Has any president ever appeared in public
00:16:41.600 and said,
00:16:42.340 you know,
00:16:42.600 I trust my crowd so much
00:16:43.980 that you don't even have to check them?
00:16:47.080 And here's the weird thing.
00:16:48.980 He was right.
00:16:50.560 He was right.
00:16:51.420 Nobody brandished a gun
00:16:54.120 to try to hurt him,
00:16:55.520 and nobody used a firearm
00:16:57.000 during the episode,
00:17:00.720 the riots.
00:17:02.440 So,
00:17:03.120 once again,
00:17:04.660 he was right,
00:17:05.900 but I would also say
00:17:07.100 it was risky.
00:17:08.220 You'd agree with that,
00:17:09.160 right?
00:17:09.960 I mean,
00:17:10.300 we didn't know in advance
00:17:11.580 he'd be right.
00:17:12.340 There's no way he could know
00:17:13.300 he was right.
00:17:14.180 But his gut said
00:17:15.200 that he'd rather have
00:17:16.680 the crowd size
00:17:17.600 that was just a better
00:17:18.640 cost-benefit
00:17:19.620 at that moment,
00:17:20.440 because the entire country
00:17:22.200 and the future of the country
00:17:23.440 was at risk.
00:17:25.040 And so he said,
00:17:25.900 quite reasonably,
00:17:27.320 that he would accept
00:17:28.260 a little extra risk.
00:17:32.200 So in the context
00:17:33.460 in which everybody's
00:17:34.640 criticizing Trump
00:17:35.900 for not being concerned
00:17:39.600 enough about the risk
00:17:40.860 to Pence,
00:17:42.980 the direct evidence
00:17:45.140 is that Trump
00:17:46.460 was literally removing
00:17:49.000 protection from himself
00:17:50.500 because he didn't believe
00:17:52.980 his crowds would hurt him.
00:17:56.460 So,
00:17:57.320 how Trump internally
00:17:59.600 deals with risk
00:18:00.620 is a big unknown.
00:18:02.240 And you can't know it
00:18:03.360 by looking at what happened
00:18:04.740 because there's always
00:18:06.300 more than one interpretation
00:18:07.520 of what his mental state
00:18:09.260 would have been
00:18:09.880 to have gotten
00:18:11.080 the situation you got.
00:18:12.820 So here's how I take it.
00:18:14.880 He's a guy who believes
00:18:15.880 that Republicans
00:18:16.520 are not dangerous
00:18:17.520 and if it's all Republicans,
00:18:19.360 which it was,
00:18:20.880 or conservatives anyway,
00:18:22.760 that they don't use firearms
00:18:25.220 for no good reason.
00:18:29.020 And he was totally right.
00:18:31.400 So,
00:18:32.440 what we're seeing
00:18:35.580 in these show trials
00:18:36.580 is primarily
00:18:38.060 trying to fool you
00:18:39.580 into thinking
00:18:40.160 we can read his mind.
00:18:41.660 that's primarily
00:18:43.420 what it is.
00:18:44.940 Because his state of mind
00:18:46.360 is everything,
00:18:47.160 isn't it?
00:18:48.320 The entire thing
00:18:49.740 is to figure out
00:18:50.600 if we can determine
00:18:51.540 what he was thinking.
00:18:53.240 Not what he did.
00:18:55.240 Not what he did.
00:18:56.700 Because what he did
00:18:57.540 will support
00:18:58.140 multiple theories
00:18:59.360 of what he was thinking.
00:19:00.860 And only what he is thinking
00:19:02.420 matters.
00:19:03.760 Because if he was thinking,
00:19:05.360 I want to overthrow the country,
00:19:07.040 I know the election was fair,
00:19:09.040 but I'm going to try
00:19:09.680 to make it happen anyway.
00:19:10.600 If he was thinking that,
00:19:13.140 my God,
00:19:15.080 he should be executed.
00:19:18.140 I don't know
00:19:18.840 if that's a law,
00:19:19.560 but,
00:19:20.440 right?
00:19:21.240 If he was actually thinking,
00:19:23.160 I want to violently
00:19:24.300 overthrow the country
00:19:25.320 and overturn
00:19:26.740 a fair election,
00:19:28.580 well then I think
00:19:29.560 he should be killed.
00:19:32.580 Am I wrong?
00:19:34.640 Obviously,
00:19:35.260 I don't think
00:19:35.720 he did that.
00:19:36.880 But if that were true,
00:19:39.200 yeah,
00:19:39.660 I think he should be
00:19:41.160 tried and executed
00:19:42.560 if guilty.
00:19:43.140 I don't know
00:19:44.300 if there's a law
00:19:44.800 that would execute you
00:19:45.700 for trying to overthrow
00:19:46.520 the government
00:19:47.060 in that fashion.
00:19:48.760 But if there is,
00:19:50.260 he should be executed
00:19:51.200 for it.
00:19:52.860 But the other interpretation
00:19:54.040 is he was Trump
00:19:55.260 being exactly like
00:19:56.260 he's always been,
00:19:57.560 obsessing about crowd size,
00:20:00.260 not being terribly concerned
00:20:02.020 about physical risk,
00:20:03.900 which is entirely
00:20:05.400 consistent,
00:20:06.260 isn't it?
00:20:06.660 that even Trump's rallies,
00:20:10.000 he wasn't super concerned
00:20:12.200 about people
00:20:13.340 getting roughed up.
00:20:14.700 In fact,
00:20:15.120 he played with it,
00:20:16.160 had some fun with it.
00:20:17.380 So very consistently,
00:20:18.780 he's been,
00:20:20.000 I will accept
00:20:20.880 a little extra risk.
00:20:23.780 I'll accept
00:20:24.500 a little extra risk.
00:20:25.300 He did it
00:20:26.280 with his own
00:20:26.920 physical risk
00:20:28.040 by saying,
00:20:29.280 forget about
00:20:29.800 the checking
00:20:30.520 for weapons.
00:20:31.240 They're not going
00:20:31.640 to use them.
00:20:32.840 Now,
00:20:33.560 what do you think
00:20:34.340 Trump knew
00:20:35.460 or believed
00:20:36.920 about Pence's
00:20:38.360 actual physical risk
00:20:40.180 during the worst part of it?
00:20:42.340 Because part of the accusation,
00:20:43.680 and it's a bad one,
00:20:45.020 is that he may have been
00:20:45.960 on board with something
00:20:46.960 bad happening to Pence.
00:20:49.280 What do you think
00:20:50.100 he knew internally?
00:20:52.180 Do you think
00:20:52.980 that Trump
00:20:53.580 believed that
00:20:54.960 the Republicans
00:20:55.540 were not dangerous
00:20:56.560 to him,
00:20:57.200 so much so
00:20:58.000 that they didn't even
00:20:58.700 check him for weapons
00:20:59.580 at a public event,
00:21:00.680 which is outrageous,
00:21:01.580 really?
00:21:02.380 Or he didn't want to,
00:21:03.240 but they did anyway.
00:21:05.920 If that was his mindset,
00:21:08.660 that this crowd
00:21:09.520 is not so much
00:21:11.080 about violence,
00:21:11.980 they're about,
00:21:12.500 you know,
00:21:13.200 protesting,
00:21:14.220 do you think
00:21:15.200 that he believed
00:21:15.980 Pence was an actual
00:21:17.200 physical danger?
00:21:20.520 How would you know?
00:21:22.480 You know,
00:21:22.820 we have the benefit
00:21:24.500 of hindsight, right?
00:21:26.380 Do you think
00:21:27.240 that Trump
00:21:28.040 had good information
00:21:29.280 about where Pence was
00:21:31.440 what the defenses
00:21:33.160 were,
00:21:34.180 what was the nature
00:21:34.940 of the crowd,
00:21:36.280 how many of them
00:21:37.020 were just being
00:21:37.580 hyperbolic?
00:21:38.780 It's not unusual
00:21:39.820 in political context
00:21:41.120 for somebody
00:21:41.740 to have
00:21:42.100 a noose.
00:21:45.580 In fact,
00:21:46.180 it's one of the most
00:21:46.740 common political
00:21:47.640 protest things,
00:21:48.660 a noose, right?
00:21:49.860 It doesn't mean
00:21:50.880 they're really going
00:21:51.420 to hang somebody.
00:21:52.780 It's sort of how
00:21:53.600 protests work.
00:21:54.400 Now,
00:21:55.060 what do you think
00:21:55.660 Trump knew
00:21:56.680 at the most
00:21:58.280 critical moments?
00:21:59.520 Now,
00:21:59.700 remember,
00:22:00.280 remember,
00:22:01.160 what we know
00:22:02.340 we learned
00:22:03.320 after the fact.
00:22:04.920 During the fog
00:22:05.960 of war,
00:22:07.300 and don't you think
00:22:08.740 that during January 6,
00:22:10.520 during the actual
00:22:11.140 hours of the protest,
00:22:12.920 don't you think
00:22:13.500 the fog of war
00:22:14.640 was pretty thick?
00:22:17.780 How do you know
00:22:18.820 what Trump knew
00:22:19.720 or believed
00:22:20.840 during that time?
00:22:23.600 There's no way
00:22:24.300 to know it.
00:22:25.140 Now,
00:22:25.440 if you could create
00:22:26.260 a situation
00:22:26.820 where there's only
00:22:27.760 one interpretation
00:22:28.620 of what he could
00:22:29.440 have been thinking,
00:22:30.920 well,
00:22:31.360 then I might be
00:22:32.000 persuaded by that.
00:22:32.920 I'd say,
00:22:33.220 well,
00:22:33.720 there's just nothing
00:22:34.660 else you could
00:22:35.240 have been thinking
00:22:36.320 in that situation.
00:22:38.600 But we're nowhere
00:22:39.820 near that.
00:22:41.740 You know,
00:22:41.940 we have completely
00:22:43.200 innocent explanations
00:22:44.680 for everything.
00:22:46.360 And every time
00:22:47.580 you compare
00:22:48.120 the innocent
00:22:48.760 explanation,
00:22:49.720 to the allegation,
00:22:51.160 one of them
00:22:51.960 sounds way
00:22:53.000 less likely
00:22:53.700 than the other.
00:22:55.500 Doesn't it?
00:22:56.600 What is more likely?
00:22:58.980 That Trump
00:22:59.560 wanted to,
00:23:00.700 with witnesses,
00:23:02.900 acted as though
00:23:03.780 he was okay
00:23:04.540 with Trump
00:23:05.080 with his own
00:23:05.820 vice president
00:23:06.440 being murdered.
00:23:08.220 So that's one theory.
00:23:10.080 Just think in your mind,
00:23:11.200 what are the odds
00:23:11.900 of that?
00:23:13.320 That Trump
00:23:14.000 was okay
00:23:15.440 with his own
00:23:16.420 vice president
00:23:17.320 being murdered
00:23:18.300 any minute.
00:23:20.700 That's one theory.
00:23:21.900 The other theory is
00:23:22.840 it was a fog of war
00:23:24.080 and he was unaware
00:23:25.500 of the danger
00:23:27.080 or,
00:23:27.880 or,
00:23:28.980 he was actually
00:23:29.920 completely right
00:23:31.020 that he wasn't
00:23:33.080 in danger.
00:23:34.160 Because remember,
00:23:35.640 after the fact,
00:23:37.040 we can say
00:23:37.640 with certainty
00:23:38.220 that the defense
00:23:39.960 of Pence
00:23:40.500 was sufficient.
00:23:42.340 Right?
00:23:42.980 because Pence
00:23:44.920 actually lived
00:23:45.680 and was not
00:23:46.440 directly assaulted.
00:23:47.300 So we can say
00:23:48.920 as of this moment,
00:23:51.660 if, you know,
00:23:52.100 if anybody
00:23:52.500 had magic abilities,
00:23:53.840 they could have said
00:23:54.400 at the time,
00:23:55.440 yeah,
00:23:55.620 his defense
00:23:56.240 was sufficient,
00:23:57.020 he was fine.
00:23:59.580 What did Trump know?
00:24:01.200 Did Trump
00:24:01.700 trust the Secret Service
00:24:03.300 to protect Pence
00:24:04.680 and therefore
00:24:06.060 believe there was
00:24:06.960 no real danger?
00:24:07.680 Did he also think
00:24:09.280 that Republicans
00:24:09.920 just talk that way?
00:24:11.280 They talk tough,
00:24:12.200 but they're not
00:24:13.160 violent by nature.
00:24:14.480 And if anybody
00:24:15.120 tried to get violent,
00:24:16.340 here's my belief.
00:24:17.800 Here's my belief.
00:24:18.760 Now,
00:24:18.940 if somebody had a gun
00:24:19.740 and, you know,
00:24:20.540 took a shot,
00:24:21.480 all bets are off.
00:24:22.760 But could you imagine,
00:24:24.100 just try to wrap
00:24:25.160 your head around
00:24:25.780 this Republican crowd.
00:24:28.560 You've got
00:24:29.060 some percentage
00:24:30.040 of bad actors
00:24:30.940 and some percentage
00:24:32.940 of people
00:24:33.300 who are just trying
00:24:33.900 to protect the Republic.
00:24:36.220 What would happen
00:24:37.220 if that mixed crowd,
00:24:39.100 the whole bunch of them,
00:24:40.760 surrounded Pence
00:24:44.140 and the Secret Service agents
00:24:46.900 were, you know,
00:24:47.520 maybe putting their bodies
00:24:49.140 in front of the crowd
00:24:50.060 and, you know,
00:24:50.840 they're starting to lose
00:24:52.560 to the weight of the crowd.
00:24:54.460 What exactly
00:24:55.220 do you think
00:24:56.240 the rest of the Republicans
00:24:57.500 in the crowd
00:24:58.160 would have done?
00:25:00.020 I wasn't there
00:25:01.000 and I don't know,
00:25:02.360 but I'll give you
00:25:02.900 my assumption.
00:25:04.380 If a bad actor
00:25:05.680 had done something
00:25:07.080 that looked like
00:25:07.720 real violence,
00:25:08.860 threatened it,
00:25:09.440 let's say brought out a gun.
00:25:11.840 Let's say somebody
00:25:13.000 brought out a gun,
00:25:14.640 aimed it at Pence
00:25:15.560 in front of
00:25:17.480 a whole room full
00:25:18.600 of Republicans.
00:25:20.380 You tell me
00:25:21.140 what happens
00:25:21.720 in the next 60 seconds.
00:25:24.060 It's a room full
00:25:24.980 of Republicans.
00:25:26.380 Somebody pulls out
00:25:27.240 a gun,
00:25:27.600 they point it at Pence.
00:25:31.440 They wouldn't,
00:25:32.480 they wouldn't just
00:25:34.040 grab the gun
00:25:34.800 away from them.
00:25:36.680 They would kill them.
00:25:38.640 They would kill them.
00:25:39.700 Am I wrong?
00:25:43.380 Now, they might beat them
00:25:44.700 in, you know,
00:25:45.320 beat them into a coma
00:25:46.520 or something.
00:25:47.180 Maybe they wouldn't
00:25:47.660 actually kill them.
00:25:48.980 But I think
00:25:49.640 he'd get torn apart.
00:25:51.680 I think.
00:25:53.280 Because what Republican
00:25:54.480 is going to let that happen
00:25:55.520 right in front of them?
00:25:58.220 I mean, that's,
00:25:59.520 I just can't see Republicans
00:26:01.020 letting that happen,
00:26:02.180 no matter how many
00:26:02.920 bad actors
00:26:03.520 are in the group.
00:26:03.980 Now, let's contrast
00:26:05.760 that to the,
00:26:06.940 you know,
00:26:08.480 the riots,
00:26:09.560 you know,
00:26:09.800 Antifa,
00:26:10.620 BLM.
00:26:12.040 I didn't see a lot
00:26:12.940 of people trying
00:26:13.500 to stop the protesters,
00:26:15.560 but I think
00:26:15.900 in a Republican crowd,
00:26:17.760 they would have done it
00:26:18.400 for sure.
00:26:20.700 Just speculation.
00:26:22.280 Now, anything I speculate
00:26:23.400 about Trump's mental state
00:26:25.040 is equally
00:26:25.860 non-credible.
00:26:27.960 Can we agree?
00:26:28.580 I can speculate
00:26:30.160 on what he was thinking,
00:26:32.020 but I don't know.
00:26:33.960 And that's the point.
00:26:35.400 How could you have a,
00:26:38.120 how could we be going
00:26:39.060 through this process
00:26:39.820 when the only thing
00:26:40.820 that matters
00:26:41.240 is what he was thinking,
00:26:42.740 and there are multiple
00:26:44.240 theories that would
00:26:45.080 support everything
00:26:46.740 he did,
00:26:48.220 and the least likely one
00:26:50.160 is that he was thinking
00:26:51.100 the worst possible thing.
00:26:52.640 That's the least likely
00:26:53.940 explanation of anything
00:26:54.960 we see.
00:26:55.360 All right.
00:27:03.420 Do you think it's fair
00:27:04.540 to compare the BLM riots
00:27:07.380 to the January 6th?
00:27:11.280 Is that a fair comparison?
00:27:15.140 I used to think
00:27:16.260 that that was fair.
00:27:19.920 I thought,
00:27:20.200 oh, they have enough
00:27:21.240 in common
00:27:21.720 that I could compare
00:27:22.680 those two.
00:27:23.060 But I've decided
00:27:23.960 to go with the majority.
00:27:25.360 on this.
00:27:27.480 I know you might
00:27:27.980 not like it,
00:27:28.740 but I decided
00:27:30.020 to go with the majority.
00:27:31.800 And what the Democrats
00:27:32.540 taught me is that
00:27:33.580 it's not legitimate
00:27:35.180 to compare the fake news
00:27:37.120 about an insurrection
00:27:38.300 to real news
00:27:39.920 about riots.
00:27:41.440 They're not comparable.
00:27:43.500 So what would be
00:27:44.800 comparable
00:27:45.180 with like two real things?
00:27:47.420 If you had like
00:27:48.320 a real riot
00:27:49.200 compared to a real insurrection?
00:27:52.240 That, you know,
00:27:52.800 maybe,
00:27:53.320 maybe that would be
00:27:54.100 something to compare.
00:27:54.760 But it wouldn't be sensible
00:27:56.220 to compare a real riots
00:27:57.560 with, you know,
00:27:59.460 billions of dollars
00:28:00.180 of damage
00:28:00.640 and multiple deaths
00:28:01.820 to a protest
00:28:04.600 that has been called
00:28:07.100 an insurrection
00:28:07.720 but isn't.
00:28:09.380 So I'm going to go
00:28:10.580 with the majority
00:28:11.060 and say you can't compare
00:28:11.900 those two things.
00:28:13.140 Fake news to real news.
00:28:16.020 Remember I told you
00:28:16.900 that we would find out
00:28:17.940 for sure
00:28:18.600 which journalists
00:28:20.240 or platforms
00:28:21.800 were completely
00:28:23.260 non-credible
00:28:25.140 because the spin
00:28:27.700 that would come out
00:28:28.300 of this
00:28:28.580 would be just so clear
00:28:30.500 that you could tell
00:28:31.880 who to never believe again.
00:28:34.660 And even today
00:28:35.660 after that
00:28:36.460 steering wheel thing
00:28:37.440 got debunked,
00:28:38.860 the LA Times
00:28:39.600 is going with it
00:28:40.360 as a major story.
00:28:41.220 And they said
00:28:46.440 Trump didn't care
00:28:47.160 about, you know,
00:28:47.920 weapons
00:28:48.300 at the event
00:28:49.300 but they leave out
00:28:50.020 the part about
00:28:50.640 why he said that.
00:28:54.840 And, you know,
00:28:56.080 to me the fact
00:28:56.860 that he didn't think
00:28:58.080 Republicans
00:28:58.860 would be dangerous
00:28:59.700 to him
00:29:00.160 tells me
00:29:01.260 his state of mind
00:29:02.400 was not thinking
00:29:03.420 anything would get dangerous.
00:29:05.840 Like he probably
00:29:06.640 just thought
00:29:07.100 it was a peaceful group.
00:29:08.320 So, to me
00:29:10.080 they've
00:29:10.520 essentially
00:29:11.820 that's Trump's defense
00:29:13.940 that if he wasn't
00:29:16.060 thinking the crowd
00:29:16.840 was violent
00:29:17.480 aren't we done?
00:29:19.980 Now he said
00:29:20.600 they won't be violent
00:29:21.500 to me
00:29:22.140 but I feel like
00:29:24.380 what he really meant
00:29:25.460 was it's not
00:29:26.960 a violent crowd.
00:29:29.820 Alright.
00:29:31.320 But there's no way
00:29:32.240 to prove that.
00:29:32.780 That would just be
00:29:33.240 speculation.
00:29:35.600 Alright.
00:29:35.920 So the LA Times
00:29:36.900 it's just
00:29:39.140 jaw-dropping
00:29:39.820 that they can
00:29:41.040 carry the story
00:29:41.780 after the people
00:29:43.100 involved have
00:29:43.720 debunked it.
00:29:45.180 But there it is.
00:29:47.380 Apparently
00:29:47.860 AOC said
00:29:48.820 about the
00:29:49.380 Supreme Court
00:29:50.360 decision
00:29:50.800 about abortion
00:29:51.720 I need a fact check.
00:29:54.460 Did she really
00:29:54.960 say this?
00:29:56.160 She said
00:29:56.580 the right to our bodies
00:29:57.540 does not belong
00:29:58.340 to nine Supreme Court
00:29:59.480 justices.
00:30:01.140 Was that a real quote?
00:30:04.320 If she didn't say it
00:30:05.640 it is at least
00:30:07.100 a fair characterization
00:30:08.220 of what a lot
00:30:09.240 of Democrats
00:30:09.780 are saying.
00:30:11.120 That
00:30:11.400 women's bodies
00:30:13.260 should not be
00:30:14.560 subject to the
00:30:15.420 decision from
00:30:16.280 nine people
00:30:18.700 in a court.
00:30:20.280 And they believe
00:30:21.080 that it should be
00:30:21.720 more of a
00:30:22.400 democratic decision
00:30:23.780 and not
00:30:24.680 some fascist
00:30:26.240 dictator situation
00:30:27.440 with a court
00:30:28.680 making the decision
00:30:30.140 about what women
00:30:30.920 do with their bodies.
00:30:32.880 And so here's
00:30:33.720 what I suggest
00:30:34.720 based on this
00:30:36.360 comment.
00:30:37.740 Because
00:30:38.300 rarely
00:30:40.640 do you see
00:30:42.720 the country
00:30:43.160 come together
00:30:43.800 over such
00:30:44.440 a contentious
00:30:45.140 issue.
00:30:46.360 But here it is.
00:30:48.100 This is one time
00:30:49.180 that
00:30:49.720 the Democrats
00:30:51.520 and the Republicans
00:30:52.400 are completely
00:30:53.180 on the same page.
00:30:54.480 Because the entire
00:30:55.300 point of the
00:30:56.140 Supreme Court
00:30:57.040 ruling
00:30:57.500 was that
00:30:58.720 the nine
00:30:59.340 justices
00:31:00.300 on the Supreme
00:31:01.000 Court
00:31:01.280 should not
00:31:01.820 make a decision
00:31:02.940 about women's
00:31:03.660 bodies.
00:31:04.780 That's what
00:31:05.360 the ruling
00:31:05.720 was.
00:31:08.840 The ruling
00:31:09.580 was exactly
00:31:10.280 agreeing with
00:31:10.860 AOC.
00:31:11.900 The Supreme
00:31:12.420 Court should
00:31:12.840 not be making
00:31:13.440 decisions about
00:31:14.180 what women
00:31:14.640 do with their
00:31:15.080 bodies.
00:31:15.860 So take
00:31:16.180 us out of
00:31:16.560 this.
00:31:17.320 Let the
00:31:17.720 states do it
00:31:18.300 because you
00:31:18.660 know what
00:31:18.820 the states
00:31:19.200 do?
00:31:19.900 They've got
00:31:20.460 a democratic
00:31:21.060 process.
00:31:22.520 Exactly what
00:31:23.220 AOC wants.
00:31:25.440 And not only
00:31:26.260 that, but can
00:31:26.980 you do a fact
00:31:27.660 check for me?
00:31:28.700 Is there any
00:31:29.300 state whose
00:31:30.540 state laws
00:31:31.660 oppose their
00:31:33.860 own internal
00:31:34.880 majority?
00:31:38.080 And why
00:31:38.840 isn't that
00:31:39.380 like a
00:31:40.080 headline?
00:31:41.680 Why am I
00:31:42.500 asking that
00:31:43.020 question and
00:31:43.780 it's not
00:31:44.160 already the
00:31:44.760 headline?
00:31:45.740 The headline
00:31:46.220 should be
00:31:46.880 somebody should
00:31:48.700 write the
00:31:49.020 story that
00:31:50.080 says the
00:31:50.480 laws in our
00:31:51.080 state actually
00:31:51.780 don't agree
00:31:52.420 with the
00:31:52.740 majority.
00:31:53.560 Somebody says
00:31:54.000 Michigan and
00:31:54.600 Wisconsin.
00:31:55.380 Did somebody
00:31:55.760 write that
00:31:56.120 story?
00:31:56.440 Or do you
00:31:57.700 just know that
00:31:58.200 from your own
00:31:58.880 research?
00:31:59.720 change?
00:32:01.140 Isn't that
00:32:01.540 important to
00:32:02.080 you?
00:32:03.020 Because if
00:32:03.740 there's only
00:32:04.200 let's say
00:32:04.680 that's true.
00:32:05.380 I don't know
00:32:05.720 if that's
00:32:06.040 true.
00:32:06.660 But let's
00:32:07.220 say there
00:32:08.280 are two
00:32:09.280 states where
00:32:10.740 the majority
00:32:11.360 is clearly
00:32:12.180 out of line
00:32:12.960 with the
00:32:13.360 law.
00:32:15.160 Shouldn't
00:32:15.580 the pro
00:32:18.020 abortion,
00:32:18.740 pro
00:32:19.020 democracy
00:32:19.660 people be
00:32:21.100 just concentrating
00:32:21.840 on those
00:32:22.320 states?
00:32:23.940 Because do
00:32:24.540 you know what
00:32:25.360 Californians'
00:32:26.180 reaction was
00:32:27.120 to the
00:32:27.620 Supreme
00:32:27.960 Court decision?
00:32:29.880 Let me
00:32:30.360 give you
00:32:30.660 the reaction
00:32:31.180 of most
00:32:32.180 Californians.
00:32:33.960 Eh, it
00:32:34.400 doesn't affect
00:32:34.900 us.
00:32:36.400 Because it
00:32:37.040 doesn't.
00:32:37.960 The state
00:32:38.380 has its own
00:32:38.960 laws, which
00:32:39.600 I haven't
00:32:40.360 checked, but
00:32:41.700 I would be
00:32:42.200 willing to
00:32:42.680 bet that
00:32:43.980 California's
00:32:45.060 let's say
00:32:46.820 liberal abortion
00:32:47.760 laws are
00:32:49.420 probably what
00:32:50.060 the state
00:32:50.400 wants by
00:32:50.940 majority.
00:32:52.380 Am I
00:32:52.700 wrong?
00:32:53.660 I think
00:32:54.160 California wants
00:32:55.040 abortion and
00:32:55.660 they have it.
00:32:56.140 so democracy,
00:32:59.820 right?
00:33:03.220 But it's
00:33:04.240 kind of
00:33:05.540 mind-boggling
00:33:06.280 to watch
00:33:07.280 the left
00:33:07.840 stage riots
00:33:09.680 to achieve
00:33:11.220 what they
00:33:12.100 were just
00:33:12.640 given.
00:33:14.420 We just
00:33:15.460 gave you
00:33:16.060 democracy.
00:33:17.540 Go fix
00:33:18.140 it in your
00:33:18.540 state like
00:33:19.500 the system
00:33:20.060 is supposed
00:33:20.540 to work.
00:33:22.660 Take yes
00:33:23.520 for an
00:33:23.820 answer.
00:33:24.140 Take yes
00:33:25.900 for an
00:33:26.200 answer.
00:33:27.160 How about
00:33:27.460 yes?
00:33:28.820 You people
00:33:29.500 decide and
00:33:30.180 not the
00:33:30.560 Supreme Court.
00:33:31.660 But damn it,
00:33:32.300 we don't want
00:33:32.760 the Supreme Court
00:33:33.420 deciding.
00:33:34.920 That's what we
00:33:35.780 just said.
00:33:36.880 That's exactly
00:33:37.640 what we just
00:33:38.280 said.
00:33:38.960 So we're in
00:33:39.480 complete agreement.
00:33:40.840 You nine
00:33:41.700 old people,
00:33:42.780 stop controlling
00:33:44.360 our bodies.
00:33:46.000 That's the
00:33:46.700 opposite.
00:33:47.520 That's the
00:33:47.920 opposite again.
00:33:49.280 That would be
00:33:49.680 the opposite
00:33:50.340 of what we
00:33:51.000 just did.
00:33:51.820 The opposite.
00:33:52.520 And watching
00:33:54.360 this happen
00:33:54.980 right in
00:33:55.760 front of you
00:33:56.160 is just
00:33:56.540 insane.
00:33:57.820 Again,
00:33:58.640 going back
00:33:59.320 to my
00:33:59.660 theme,
00:34:01.280 this is
00:34:01.880 beyond fake
00:34:03.160 news.
00:34:04.700 This is a
00:34:05.260 whole other
00:34:05.940 level of
00:34:07.040 not caring
00:34:07.660 if you
00:34:07.980 notice.
00:34:09.320 I feel
00:34:09.860 like the
00:34:10.180 old fake
00:34:10.700 news,
00:34:11.360 like the
00:34:11.700 Russian
00:34:11.980 collusion
00:34:12.520 thing,
00:34:14.100 I miss
00:34:14.820 that.
00:34:15.940 Because
00:34:16.180 Russia
00:34:16.520 collusion
00:34:17.040 at least
00:34:17.500 had something
00:34:18.060 that looked
00:34:18.500 like fake
00:34:19.040 evidence,
00:34:19.660 you know,
00:34:19.860 the dossier.
00:34:20.880 It had an
00:34:21.300 old argument
00:34:21.840 structure.
00:34:23.580 I mean,
00:34:23.860 you didn't
00:34:24.160 know.
00:34:24.780 On day
00:34:25.100 one,
00:34:25.400 it looked
00:34:25.720 ridiculous
00:34:26.140 to me.
00:34:26.940 I mean,
00:34:27.120 I doubted
00:34:27.640 it from
00:34:27.920 day one.
00:34:29.060 Well,
00:34:29.300 you don't
00:34:29.580 know.
00:34:30.440 I mean,
00:34:30.720 I was
00:34:31.040 open to
00:34:31.400 the possibility
00:34:32.080 that if
00:34:32.580 they looked
00:34:33.000 into it,
00:34:33.580 well,
00:34:33.840 we'd be
00:34:34.180 surprised.
00:34:34.940 Who knows?
00:34:35.900 I was
00:34:36.120 open to
00:34:36.500 it.
00:34:37.160 So that
00:34:37.740 was the
00:34:38.020 old kind
00:34:38.380 of fake
00:34:38.680 news where
00:34:39.080 you really
00:34:39.440 couldn't
00:34:39.720 tell.
00:34:40.640 You really
00:34:41.000 couldn't
00:34:41.260 tell.
00:34:42.380 But now
00:34:42.760 you can
00:34:43.220 tell.
00:34:44.040 You can
00:34:44.760 tell.
00:34:45.840 They're not
00:34:46.400 hiding it
00:34:46.900 anymore.
00:34:48.140 It's like
00:34:48.400 nothing's being
00:34:49.020 hidden.
00:34:49.720 It's like
00:34:50.280 the Russian
00:34:50.680 propaganda.
00:34:52.060 Well,
00:34:52.700 the reason
00:34:53.060 we pulled
00:34:53.680 off a
00:34:54.180 snake
00:34:54.480 island,
00:34:55.540 not because
00:34:56.380 it's nothing
00:34:56.920 but a
00:34:57.360 smoking,
00:34:58.180 barren
00:34:58.520 ember.
00:34:59.700 That's not
00:35:00.340 why.
00:35:01.280 It's because
00:35:01.940 we wanted
00:35:02.460 a gesture
00:35:03.740 of goodwill.
00:35:05.100 That's the
00:35:05.600 way we do
00:35:06.040 it when
00:35:06.360 we're at
00:35:06.700 war.
00:35:09.020 Totally
00:35:09.640 believable.
00:35:13.180 Speaking of
00:35:14.220 news that's
00:35:15.160 totally
00:35:15.700 believable,
00:35:17.220 a tragic
00:35:18.000 story of
00:35:18.800 drummer
00:35:19.360 Travis
00:35:20.000 Barker
00:35:20.500 and
00:35:21.100 checked
00:35:21.340 into
00:35:21.600 a
00:35:21.740 hospital
00:35:22.080 for
00:35:22.380 now
00:35:24.600 we've
00:35:24.920 heard
00:35:25.080 the
00:35:25.280 following
00:35:25.580 reason.
00:35:27.440 That he's
00:35:28.140 developed
00:35:28.700 allegedly
00:35:29.700 pancreatitis
00:35:31.980 from a
00:35:32.840 colonoscopy.
00:35:34.840 That's right.
00:35:35.740 So they
00:35:36.080 stuck something
00:35:37.520 up his
00:35:37.840 ass and
00:35:39.420 they gave
00:35:39.900 him
00:35:40.100 pancreatitis.
00:35:42.280 That's his
00:35:42.900 statement.
00:35:43.920 Now,
00:35:44.480 in the story
00:35:45.460 I read,
00:35:45.940 they talked
00:35:46.300 to some
00:35:46.620 doctors and
00:35:47.260 say,
00:35:47.500 can you
00:35:48.500 really
00:35:48.760 damage
00:35:49.300 somebody's
00:35:49.840 pancreas
00:35:50.620 by shoving
00:35:51.300 something up
00:35:51.840 their ass?
00:35:53.680 Maybe they
00:35:54.580 take a
00:35:54.960 chemical.
00:35:55.760 Is it the
00:35:56.180 chemical?
00:35:56.840 Is there
00:35:57.100 a tear in
00:35:58.400 the lining?
00:35:59.900 And the
00:36:00.420 doctor said,
00:36:01.840 well,
00:36:02.760 not very
00:36:06.320 likely.
00:36:07.660 Let's just
00:36:08.300 say that
00:36:08.940 it's in
00:36:09.400 the risk
00:36:11.180 level of
00:36:12.020 we don't
00:36:12.440 really think
00:36:13.040 about it
00:36:13.560 when we
00:36:14.640 do this
00:36:15.120 procedure.
00:36:16.200 It's so
00:36:16.740 unlikely
00:36:17.220 that we
00:36:18.400 don't even
00:36:18.820 consider a
00:36:19.680 risk and
00:36:20.200 in fact we
00:36:20.780 wouldn't even
00:36:21.240 mention it to
00:36:21.980 somebody as
00:36:22.960 a risk.
00:36:23.500 That's how
00:36:23.900 unlikely it
00:36:24.500 is.
00:36:25.560 However,
00:36:26.920 in
00:36:27.420 unrelated
00:36:27.880 news,
00:36:29.340 80% of
00:36:30.180 pancreatitis
00:36:30.920 cases are
00:36:31.520 due to
00:36:32.060 gallstones or
00:36:33.000 alcohol abuse.
00:36:35.340 Now,
00:36:35.600 I suppose if
00:36:36.140 there was a
00:36:36.560 gallstone
00:36:36.940 problem,
00:36:37.440 we'd hear
00:36:37.760 about that.
00:36:39.260 They probably
00:36:39.720 would have
00:36:39.980 said,
00:36:40.140 he's got
00:36:40.660 a gallstone
00:36:41.160 problem and
00:36:42.380 caused some
00:36:42.860 pancreatitis.
00:36:44.980 So,
00:36:45.220 what would
00:36:45.760 be a
00:36:46.160 possible
00:36:46.800 reason
00:36:47.420 that
00:36:49.920 they
00:36:51.120 wouldn't
00:36:51.420 mention?
00:36:52.480 I know I
00:36:52.860 can't think
00:36:53.200 of one.
00:36:55.800 Once again,
00:36:57.780 the fake
00:36:58.260 news is not
00:36:59.480 really trying
00:37:00.180 too hard to
00:37:00.760 not be fake,
00:37:01.440 is it?
00:37:02.160 It's not
00:37:02.600 trying too
00:37:03.040 hard.
00:37:06.860 I saw a
00:37:07.800 tweet today.
00:37:09.440 It was
00:37:09.900 just one
00:37:10.300 sentence and
00:37:11.620 it just
00:37:12.040 made me laugh
00:37:12.680 for 10
00:37:13.060 minutes.
00:37:14.600 This is a
00:37:15.180 tweet by
00:37:15.680 Twitter user
00:37:17.260 Alien Hotep.
00:37:20.300 I don't
00:37:20.860 know if
00:37:21.080 you're going
00:37:21.280 to have the
00:37:21.540 same reaction
00:37:22.040 to it.
00:37:22.340 I'm just
00:37:22.620 going to
00:37:22.820 read it and
00:37:23.340 then I'm
00:37:23.660 going to be
00:37:24.080 silent for
00:37:24.680 a moment.
00:37:26.940 His tweet
00:37:27.460 was,
00:37:28.540 believe all
00:37:29.220 women is
00:37:29.740 not having
00:37:30.180 a good
00:37:30.500 year.
00:37:30.760 I
00:37:31.260 believe
00:37:31.760 all women
00:37:33.440 is not
00:37:33.820 having a
00:37:34.200 good year.
00:37:34.860 I
00:37:35.760 believe
00:37:36.760 all women
00:37:37.480 is not
00:37:37.860 having a
00:37:38.240 good year.
00:37:38.840 I
00:37:39.760 Oh my
00:37:40.480 goodness.
00:37:43.860 There's a
00:37:44.680 brilliant
00:37:45.360 Tucker video
00:37:46.940 package he
00:37:48.400 put together,
00:37:49.080 must have
00:37:49.360 run last
00:37:49.760 night,
00:37:50.540 in which he
00:37:51.260 shows all
00:37:51.720 the cases,
00:37:52.280 many of them
00:37:52.720 I'd never
00:37:53.060 heard of,
00:37:53.940 of Republicans
00:37:54.900 being hunted
00:37:56.080 and arrested
00:37:57.160 for various
00:37:57.960 bullshit things.
00:37:59.580 And the
00:38:00.360 police coming
00:38:03.340 in at 5 in
00:38:04.320 the morning
00:38:04.700 and arresting
00:38:06.000 them for
00:38:06.280 basically nothing
00:38:07.120 and taking
00:38:07.620 their phones
00:38:08.060 for basically
00:38:08.640 nothing.
00:38:09.800 And there's
00:38:10.400 always some
00:38:10.880 fig leaf of
00:38:11.740 a reason why
00:38:12.560 they did
00:38:12.900 everything they
00:38:13.380 did,
00:38:14.000 but none of
00:38:14.860 it looks
00:38:15.280 appropriate.
00:38:16.840 It all looks
00:38:17.420 just purely
00:38:17.920 political.
00:38:19.000 And until
00:38:19.540 you see the
00:38:20.240 full number
00:38:22.560 of them,
00:38:23.920 you don't
00:38:24.280 see the
00:38:24.680 pattern.
00:38:26.060 But the
00:38:26.800 pattern is
00:38:27.240 really clear
00:38:27.940 that the
00:38:30.440 Republicans are
00:38:31.760 being hunted
00:38:32.340 for their
00:38:33.820 opinions.
00:38:34.260 comments.
00:38:35.460 Now,
00:38:36.020 we'll talk
00:38:36.580 about laundry
00:38:37.040 list a little
00:38:37.480 bit more
00:38:37.800 in a moment.
00:38:39.160 Now,
00:38:39.400 is it a
00:38:39.880 laundry list
00:38:40.560 to show
00:38:41.220 examples?
00:38:43.300 It would
00:38:43.960 be a
00:38:44.600 laundry list
00:38:45.100 problem if
00:38:45.660 some of the
00:38:46.040 examples were
00:38:46.700 debunkable.
00:38:48.160 So what's
00:38:48.600 the strongest
00:38:49.160 one?
00:38:51.000 And then
00:38:51.640 can you
00:38:52.120 debunk it?
00:38:53.660 So if you
00:38:54.200 can,
00:38:55.060 that would be
00:38:55.580 interesting.
00:38:56.280 I think I
00:38:56.680 saw at least
00:38:57.340 one thing on
00:38:58.440 his list
00:38:58.920 where I
00:38:59.300 said,
00:38:59.640 I think
00:39:01.320 there's a
00:39:02.600 counter
00:39:02.940 narrative to
00:39:04.300 that one.
00:39:05.360 So I have
00:39:06.220 to admit,
00:39:06.800 there was at
00:39:07.260 least one
00:39:07.660 thing on
00:39:07.980 the list,
00:39:08.240 I forget
00:39:08.560 which one
00:39:08.920 it was,
00:39:09.560 where I
00:39:09.860 said,
00:39:10.120 I don't
00:39:10.720 know,
00:39:11.000 I want
00:39:11.180 to put
00:39:11.400 that one
00:39:11.720 on the
00:39:11.920 list.
00:39:14.400 But that
00:39:14.940 doesn't mean
00:39:15.300 I'm right.
00:39:16.360 That was
00:39:16.700 just my
00:39:17.040 reaction.
00:39:18.480 So yeah,
00:39:19.240 Republicans
00:39:19.680 being hunted
00:39:20.340 by the
00:39:20.980 government.
00:39:25.740 I saw
00:39:26.400 this now
00:39:26.860 that apparently
00:39:27.680 the Biden
00:39:28.200 administration
00:39:28.860 is saying
00:39:31.160 outright that
00:39:32.800 if they
00:39:33.060 had to
00:39:33.380 choose
00:39:33.740 between
00:39:34.300 Russia
00:39:34.860 holding
00:39:35.380 the
00:39:35.700 Don
00:39:35.940 Bass,
00:39:37.340 which they
00:39:38.020 already
00:39:38.220 have,
00:39:39.160 versus a
00:39:40.540 global
00:39:40.980 recession and
00:39:41.720 famine,
00:39:42.220 they would
00:39:42.580 prefer a
00:39:43.380 global
00:39:43.700 recession and
00:39:44.500 famine.
00:39:46.900 And of
00:39:47.720 course the
00:39:48.040 risk of
00:39:48.400 nuclear war.
00:39:49.640 That they
00:39:50.140 would prefer
00:39:50.580 it.
00:39:51.760 Well,
00:39:51.940 that's a
00:39:52.400 little bit
00:39:52.680 of famine.
00:39:53.600 We're going
00:39:54.060 to take a
00:39:54.500 little bit
00:39:55.040 of recession,
00:39:56.200 a little bit
00:39:56.900 of famine,
00:39:57.640 but the
00:39:58.380 important thing
00:39:59.100 is that Russia
00:39:59.780 doesn't control
00:40:00.620 the Don
00:40:01.060 Bass.
00:40:03.680 And the
00:40:05.040 context is
00:40:07.120 that they're
00:40:07.520 actually saying
00:40:08.120 it directly.
00:40:12.080 How's that
00:40:12.860 not the
00:40:13.420 biggest news?
00:40:15.460 All right.
00:40:21.040 So I
00:40:21.940 added the
00:40:23.340 steering wheel
00:40:24.660 incident that
00:40:26.440 was in the
00:40:26.860 news yesterday
00:40:27.420 about Trump
00:40:28.140 allegedly grabbing
00:40:29.000 the steering
00:40:29.480 wheel of the
00:40:30.160 beast.
00:40:31.020 So I
00:40:31.520 added that
00:40:31.960 as the
00:40:32.280 eleventh
00:40:32.600 item on
00:40:33.260 my hoax
00:40:35.360 quiz.
00:40:37.500 Now,
00:40:37.740 some people
00:40:38.180 said,
00:40:39.180 and this
00:40:39.460 is entirely
00:40:40.400 reasonable,
00:40:41.700 they said,
00:40:42.360 Scott,
00:40:42.940 you always
00:40:43.380 make fun
00:40:43.980 of laundry
00:40:44.960 list
00:40:45.260 persuasion,
00:40:46.360 but then
00:40:47.460 you created
00:40:48.040 a laundry
00:40:48.560 list of
00:40:49.620 persuasion.
00:40:50.680 So are
00:40:51.460 you not
00:40:51.860 being a
00:40:52.180 little
00:40:52.300 inconsistent
00:40:52.880 here?
00:40:54.180 To which
00:40:54.740 I say,
00:40:55.620 I'm not.
00:40:57.460 Because you
00:40:58.200 should use
00:40:58.680 the same
00:40:59.120 debunking
00:40:59.680 method on
00:41:00.160 my list.
00:41:01.440 If you
00:41:02.080 can.
00:41:03.420 And the
00:41:03.960 if you
00:41:04.280 can part
00:41:04.740 is the
00:41:05.040 important
00:41:05.300 part.
00:41:06.080 If you
00:41:06.740 can take
00:41:07.200 my laundry
00:41:07.980 list and
00:41:09.380 pick the
00:41:09.800 strongest one
00:41:10.480 on the list
00:41:11.020 and debunk
00:41:11.640 it, you
00:41:13.120 win.
00:41:14.140 So go
00:41:14.800 ahead.
00:41:16.500 Please do.
00:41:18.100 And the
00:41:18.500 problem is
00:41:18.880 you can't.
00:41:20.120 Because there's
00:41:20.740 nothing on the
00:41:21.280 list you can
00:41:21.740 debunk.
00:41:22.800 I mean,
00:41:23.360 people will
00:41:23.880 think they did
00:41:24.420 it, I
00:41:24.660 suppose.
00:41:24.940 So if
00:41:28.300 you have a
00:41:28.800 list in
00:41:29.360 which they're
00:41:29.680 all true,
00:41:31.640 especially the
00:41:32.400 strongest one
00:41:33.040 on the list,
00:41:33.580 like the
00:41:33.860 Russia collusion
00:41:34.500 hoax.
00:41:35.380 So the
00:41:35.740 Russia collusion
00:41:36.500 hoax, not
00:41:37.900 the part where
00:41:38.940 Russia tried to
00:41:39.740 interfere, that's
00:41:40.840 the separate,
00:41:41.660 but the
00:41:42.060 collusion part,
00:41:43.220 I think we
00:41:45.060 know is
00:41:45.740 fake, and
00:41:46.480 that's the
00:41:46.800 strongest one
00:41:47.360 on the list.
00:41:48.160 So if you
00:41:48.560 were to pick
00:41:48.860 the strongest
00:41:49.400 one on my
00:41:50.100 list, good
00:41:51.480 luck.
00:41:51.820 Because it
00:41:53.660 actually went
00:41:54.140 through the
00:41:54.600 legal system
00:41:56.080 and the
00:41:56.500 special
00:41:56.920 prosecutor and
00:41:57.640 everything else.
00:41:58.900 So good
00:41:59.300 luck.
00:41:59.820 That's my
00:42:00.220 strongest one.
00:42:04.520 But now
00:42:05.220 that the
00:42:05.520 country has
00:42:06.140 come together
00:42:06.960 on this
00:42:07.500 question of
00:42:08.160 democracy
00:42:08.940 should be
00:42:09.540 making decisions
00:42:10.340 about women's
00:42:11.080 bodies and not
00:42:11.940 nine people on
00:42:12.820 the Supreme
00:42:13.220 Court, now
00:42:14.760 that we've all
00:42:15.260 come together on
00:42:15.960 this important
00:42:16.440 issue, I think
00:42:17.080 we should
00:42:17.400 celebrate, and
00:42:18.960 I can't think of
00:42:19.700 a better way to
00:42:20.360 celebrate the
00:42:21.500 country coming
00:42:22.080 together than
00:42:22.820 a riot.
00:42:24.460 I think a
00:42:24.880 riot would be
00:42:25.480 the appropriate
00:42:26.100 way to do
00:42:26.540 this.
00:42:27.540 And I would
00:42:29.060 try to combine
00:42:29.840 riots in this
00:42:30.640 case.
00:42:31.720 So I'd want to
00:42:32.460 bring all the
00:42:34.140 BLM people, all
00:42:35.660 the Antifa
00:42:36.160 people, but
00:42:37.240 also all the
00:42:38.180 people who are
00:42:38.620 on January 6th,
00:42:39.720 get all the
00:42:40.120 Proud Boys, all
00:42:40.920 the MAGA
00:42:41.280 people, all the
00:42:42.960 militias, get
00:42:44.060 them all in
00:42:44.440 one place, and
00:42:45.860 let's just have a
00:42:46.720 proper riot and
00:42:48.400 celebrate the
00:42:49.100 fact that we
00:42:49.680 all agree that
00:42:51.120 the Supreme
00:42:51.840 Court should
00:42:52.840 not be making
00:42:53.640 fascist, autocratic,
00:42:56.680 dictatorial decisions.
00:42:58.580 It should be made
00:42:59.580 at the States with
00:43:00.320 a democratic process,
00:43:01.260 and now we're
00:43:02.260 there.
00:43:03.180 Boom.
00:43:04.080 The whole
00:43:04.340 country came
00:43:04.860 together.
00:43:05.860 Now, if you
00:43:06.440 didn't think that
00:43:07.120 Trump could bring
00:43:07.760 the country
00:43:08.160 together, well,
00:43:10.040 there's proof that
00:43:10.840 he could do it.
00:43:11.960 We've all agreed
00:43:12.840 that the Supreme
00:43:14.560 Court is not the
00:43:15.680 place for those
00:43:16.540 decisions.
00:43:20.080 And I believe I've
00:43:23.820 delivered once
00:43:24.400 again with the
00:43:25.120 finest live
00:43:25.940 stream possibly
00:43:27.760 ever seen in the
00:43:28.540 history of the
00:43:29.720 United States or
00:43:31.000 reality itself,
00:43:32.600 which is changing
00:43:33.900 every moment.
00:43:35.180 I feel like there
00:43:35.760 was something I was
00:43:36.400 going to talk about
00:43:36.920 that I forgot.
00:43:38.760 So I'm boring you
00:43:41.200 by looking at my
00:43:41.860 notes while I
00:43:42.620 decide that.
00:43:43.220 Nope, got it
00:43:44.640 all.
00:43:46.780 That's because I'm
00:43:47.660 efficient.
00:43:49.940 The Scott Epps
00:43:50.820 moment.
00:43:57.600 Thank you.
00:43:58.260 I think it has
00:43:58.800 been delightful.
00:44:00.500 You know,
00:44:00.800 delightful is an
00:44:03.100 underused word,
00:44:03.960 and I'm trying to
00:44:04.500 change that.
00:44:06.240 When people ask me
00:44:07.360 how anything was,
00:44:08.320 I often now say,
00:44:09.340 it was delightful.
00:44:11.660 Doesn't that make
00:44:12.340 you feel happy when
00:44:13.100 you hear that
00:44:13.460 word?
00:44:15.140 How was your
00:44:16.540 party last night?
00:44:18.240 I've got to say,
00:44:19.440 it was delightful.
00:44:21.340 It sounds better
00:44:22.060 than excellent or
00:44:22.960 awesome, doesn't it?
00:44:24.320 Because those are
00:44:24.840 sort of too generic,
00:44:26.780 doesn't get to how
00:44:27.500 you feel.
00:44:30.880 All right.
00:44:31.640 Well, I love you
00:44:32.400 too.
00:44:36.440 Bring back
00:44:37.140 Gorilla TV.
00:44:37.840 Yeah, I don't have
00:44:39.280 that on my list of
00:44:40.780 hoaxes.
00:44:41.840 The one that
00:44:43.140 Trump would keep
00:44:45.500 the TV tuned
00:44:46.440 to the
00:44:47.100 Gorilla TV
00:44:49.240 channel.
00:44:53.400 That was funny.
00:44:59.080 Splendid is good
00:45:00.020 too.
00:45:01.300 How was your
00:45:01.780 event?
00:45:02.420 Splendid.
00:45:03.680 Yeah, that's a good
00:45:04.440 one.
00:45:04.700 Splendid.
00:45:05.220 How stupid do
00:45:09.900 they think we
00:45:10.400 are?
00:45:12.060 I don't want to
00:45:12.800 answer that
00:45:13.160 question.
00:45:15.080 All right.
00:45:16.300 Yeah, I think we've
00:45:17.080 covered it.
00:45:17.920 Everybody, have we
00:45:18.700 covered it?
00:45:19.280 Time to do
00:45:19.760 something else?
00:45:20.500 Go make the world a
00:45:21.200 better place?
00:45:22.220 Yes, it is.
00:45:23.960 YouTube, thanks for
00:45:25.000 sticking with me
00:45:25.740 through the technical
00:45:27.260 difficulties.
00:45:28.540 I think it was
00:45:29.160 worth it.
00:45:29.620 Now where is
00:45:30.780 relationships?
00:45:33.360 Wow.
00:45:33.640 Where is
00:45:34.440 Ray Epps?
00:45:36.240 No.
00:45:36.780 No.
00:45:38.620 No.
00:45:38.800 No.
00:45:38.880 No.
00:45:39.380 No.
00:45:39.740 No.
00:45:39.920 No.
00:45:40.400 No.
00:45:41.400 No.
00:45:47.320 No.
00:45:47.740 No.
00:45:49.880 No.
00:45:50.000 Wow.
00:45:50.340 No.
00:45:51.380 No.
00:45:52.040 No.
00:45:52.060 No.
00:45:52.620 No.
00:45:52.980 No.
00:45:53.580 No.
00:45:54.180 No.
00:45:54.460 No.
00:45:54.880 No.
00:45:55.320 No.
00:45:55.400 No.
00:45:56.460 No.
00:45:57.020 No.
00:45:57.480 No.