Episode 1809 Scott Adams: January 6 Was A Feature Not A Flaw. Propaganda Versus News
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Summary
A story about Joe Biden falling off his bike is debunked, and the FBI director says the January 6th protests were bad, but can't they be wiped away? Plus, fake news, fake tweets, fake stories, and fake news again.
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Good morning, everybody. I hope you're feeling great, because today is going to be a really
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good day for most of you. For most of you, yeah. And showing up here at the live coffee
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with Scott Adams, if you are live, is one of the best things that's ever heard. What?
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Neil Peart scored higher than Max. Why is somebody mentioning Neil Peart when I was
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just watching Neil Peart videos? How is that even possible? Literally, the last video I was
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watching, and somebody's mentioning this obscure drummer. How is that even possible? Anyway,
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better. Go. Neil Peart is no obscure drummer. You'll be a non-obscure drummer if you know
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drummers. Well, the best fake news of the day, I'm going to say I fell for it. That'll be my story.
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I totally fell for it. The story was that the place, and Zero Hedge tweeted this originally,
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the place that Joe Biden fell off his bicycle on Google Maps, the name of that place is called
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Brandon Falls. Brandon Falls, the exact place he fell off his bicycle. Now, when you saw that,
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did you say to yourself, well, that's definitely true? Or did you say to yourself, that's a little
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too on the nose? Well, my first reaction to that is, no, that's just somebody geotagged it, which
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is a thing you can do. So it'll show up on the map, but that doesn't mean it's the name of the town.
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But I tweeted that mofo anyway. Do you know why? Because for the three or four seconds it would take
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before it got debunked, which it did. It took a few seconds, but it got debunked right away.
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I wanted you to feel it was true. I'm not proud of that. But when I first read it,
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I thought, oh, this is really funny, because it might be true. But then after about 10 seconds,
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you say, no, that's just a geotag. But I tweeted it anyway, because I wanted you to have the same
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experience. Then for a few seconds, you'd think, is that true? And it would just be like really
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weird and fun. And then, you know, a minute later, you'd find out none of it was true. It was just
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some, some joker geotagged it, which by the way, is funny enough, right? The fact that it was done
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by a joker, and it's not real, is just as funny. So I thought, well, either way. But anyway, it wasn't
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real. So Comey is writing in the Washington Post, why it's so important that all the January 6th
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protesters be held accountable, you know, all the ones that broke laws, and that everyone should be,
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you know, followed up on. I guess there are some FBI people that Comey is aware of, who are thinking
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that maybe the, you know, the treatment of the January 6th people was a little harsh, compared
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to how other protesters in other contexts have been treated. But Comey is saying, no, no, no, no.
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And this is one of the things that Comey says, quote, he says, none of that matters, because surely
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you agree on one thing, January 6th can't happen again. Really? Is that, do we agree on that?
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I don't agree on that. I don't even agree that January 6th was bad, except for the violence,
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and, you know, the violence was bad, of course. So everybody agrees the violence was bad. Don't
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make that a thing. But what about the fact that there was a major protest at the Capitol,
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and it was really dicey? Was that a feature or a flaw? Let me say something about America,
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Mr. Comey, which is something you apparently don't know about your own country. It goes
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like this. If something happens that the government does, if the government does something, let's
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say an election, and the signal is that there's fraud, the signal. It doesn't mean the signal
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is correct. There are lots of false signals. But definitely the signal from this election
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was that there was something sketchy, and you ought to pause for a second and make sure
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that everything's okay. That's what the protesters wanted. Now, ask me, do I not want that to
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happen again? No, I do want that to happen again. But Scott, Scott, Scott, you say, people
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got hurt. You want that to happen again? Yes, I do. Not the hurt part. But if it's part
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of the package, yes, yes. Protests are dangerous. People get hurt. Let me say it unambiguously.
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If the same situation arose again, where half, I'm going to say half the country, had deep
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questions about the integrity of the election system, I want another January 6th. And I don't
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care if it's the Democrats who are protesting a Republican victory. I don't care who the winner
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was. That's not even on my radar. That's a whole separate question. But if you send the
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American people a big, glaring signal of fraud, there's going to be a crowd. There's going
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to be a crowd. That doesn't mean the signal is correct, right? Lots of stuff we see as signals
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are just false. Probably half of them. Maybe most of them. Maybe most of the signals are false.
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But you tell me that you send a signal this glaringly big that something might be wrong.
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Might be. Because I haven't seen any proof that the election was rigged, personally. But
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did it signal that something needed to be looked at? Yes. Yes, it did. In the eyes of a lot
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of smart people who may have been suffering from confirmation bias, whatever. But a lot of smart
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people looked at it and said, that we need to look into. That's a pretty big signal right
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there. You don't just ignore that signal. So to Mr. Comey, let me say I could not disagree
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more. What this country needs is more January 6th, not less. We need more of it. We need a
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crowd to forum when it's obvious our government is sending signals of fraud. Has the Biden
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administration sent any signals that they're not credible in dealing with China? Yes, they
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have. The whole Hunter Biden laptop. Now, there hasn't been any protest over that that I know
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of. But if a protest formed over that, and people got hurt, I would be in favor of that.
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Not the people getting hurt, but a process in which people take higher risk because they
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think there's a higher level problem. Yes. When people see a high level problem, or even maybe
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a high level problem, and they take high level risk to address it, that's the country I want
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to live in. Don't tell me you're taking that away. That's the reason I love this country.
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It's like burning the flag. I've said this a million times, but I'm going to keep saying
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it until everybody believes it. I don't want to salute a flag I can't burn. The fact that
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you can burn it in public is why I glorify it. That's why I respect it. That's why I honor
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the flag. Because you can burn that thing in public, and it gets stronger. Every time
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you burn it, it gets stronger. Burn it today. You can burn it right in front of me. I know
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a lot of you would be so offended if you saw a flag burning right in front of you. You
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might try to put it out. You might get violent with the person who's doing it. You'd be so
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offended. Not me. Not me. You can burn that flag right in front of me. You can put a whole
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pile of flags, set them all on fire. And when you're done, that flag will be stronger. Because
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it let you burn it up, and it didn't do anything. That's how it gets its power. The power of the
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flag is you can burn it. Don't lose that. Don't lose that. That's a feature. All right.
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And Comey says, we have a constitution and statues and blah, blah, blah. And the FBI's
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job is to send the message that it can never happen again if we are to remain a nation under
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law. No, Mr. Comey, it's going to happen again. Because we're America. You know, we got a lot
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of flaws. We Americans got a lot, we got a lot to answer to, right? People got questions
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about us? Okay. They're not all bad questions. We got a lot to answer to. But there is one
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thing we're going to get right every time. Fuck around and find out. We'll get that right
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every time. Fuck around and find out. That doesn't mean we're always right. But if you
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fuck around, you're going to find out. It's just spilt into the American DNA. And most
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countries, I think. You know, we're not that unique. Well, CNN has continued its two-prong
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plan to destroy the planet while also telling you that it could be fun. Could be fun. Does
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that sound like an exaggeration? The CNN is destroying the planet but simultaneously telling
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you how you can have fun with it. Well, there was a story today about how, you know, we might
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have energy problems and you might lose your AC during the summer. But CNN explains that you
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can still have fun on hot days and then gives you a number of tips for not overheating. So
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CNN and the like have pushed the climate change narrative until it caused people to overreact
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and get rid of their own energy sources without replacements online. So CNN and others who have
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gotten us to this place where we reviled the energy that could, you know, power our AC, they're
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literally trying to sell you that everything's fine. Oh, yeah, it'll be 110 and you won't
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have AC. But, you know, you can still have fun in the heat. You can still have fun in
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that heat. Just, you know, don't overdo it. Here's some tips. Put a nice, put an ice cube
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in your pants. Oh, that's right. Your freezer doesn't work. Just go send your electric car with
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the AC on. As long as you don't have to recharge it. Yeah. So that's nice of them to destroy the
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world and tell us how to enjoy it. Well, Janet Yellen says that we're working with South Korea
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and probably some other allies to try to decouple from China and the rare earth materials because
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China has a lot of that market and we depend on it apparently. So it's a bad thing to depend
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on that because our whole tech industry and our military and everything else depends on
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those rare earth materials going into products. But now we're going to decouple from China
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and look into South Korea for chips and other stuff. And let me ask you this. How many of
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you remember during Trump's first term, and it was early on before the pandemic. So how many
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of you remember that before the pandemic, I was tweeting like an idiot that we should decouple
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from China's economy? How many people remember me saying over and over again? And do you remember
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the reaction I got? Does anybody remember the reaction from the public? Now, some of you
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follow me were like, yeah, yeah, let's do it. But generally speaking, what would you say the
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public reaction was? The public reaction was, that's not going to happen. That's never going
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to happen. Scott, Scott, Scott. That's not going to happen. Well, it's happening. Now, it took
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a pandemic to do it. But, you know, something was going to happen to wake us up. It just happened
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to be that. Now, the idiot cartoonist was asking for decoupling. But we're decoupling.
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That's happening. Now, here's a question to you. Take me out of the equation for a moment.
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Which of our political leaders were also early on decoupling from China? Name somebody who's
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running for president or might, you know, somebody whose name is in the mix. And Trump, right?
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Trump, okay. Now, did Trump ever say decouple? Have you ever heard Trump say decouple? I don't
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know if he's used that word. Somebody's saying Rand Paul. Rand Paul has said decouple? Has
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Hawley? I haven't heard Hawley. The one I know is Tom Cotton. Can you confirm that? I think
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Tom Cotton was the earliest and strongest voice of the, you know, high-end politicians. Well,
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Tucker was, you know, not a politician. But of the people running for president, I think
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it was Tom Cotton, right? So when you're deciding who to support here, I would just ask you to
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remember who was right and who was vocally right. Yeah. Kyle Bass, of course, highly influential
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on this. So give a thought to the fact that I think Tom Cotton had the right priorities
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and saw it early. So we're watching the left try to explain Biden away. And it looks like
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some of them have turned. We'll talk about that in a minute. But have you tried having
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a conversation with a Democrat and asking how they feel about their Biden presidency? Have
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you done that lately? You should try it. Just ask how they think they're doing and watch
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the answer. Because I'm pretty sure there's nobody who thinks he's doing a good job. Like
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actually. Don't you think? I'm pretty sure literally no one quietly, like in their private
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time. I don't think anyone thinks he's doing a good job. I could be wrong, but I don't think
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so. So watching somebody answer a question when you know they're lying is really useful.
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Here's a tip for you. If there's somebody in your life that you suspect is a liar, don't
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try to catch them on all their lies. Let them lie. Because when you let them lie, if you know
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they're lying, this is the important part, you know they're lying, watch how they do it. Because
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people lie in very specific ways. It's almost like a fingerprint. The way one person lies
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is completely different than the way another person lies. And look for that. Once you notice
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that, you're going to see the tell for lying and it'll be really obvious. But you have
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to let them lie so you can see their method. I hate to tell you how many times I've done
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this. Let people lie to me. You go, okay, all right, you're lying. So how are you doing
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it? Okay. You've added a whole bunch of details. Okay. That's a technique. So the way some people
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lie is they'll add characters and details and like whole events, like an entire imagined
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event. But some people will never lie like that. That's just like too far. Other people,
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the most they'll do is lie by omission, like leave out a little context, right? I would say
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if you catch me in a lie, it's going to be that one. Here's a lie I never tell. A thing
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didn't happen that did. Like I would never tell a lie that says a thing happened when it
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didn't or did when it didn't. Like that's a direct lie. I don't tell those. Like I don't
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know. Maybe there's some special case or something. But like that's a lie that I don't like to
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cross. But if somebody asked me a question and I didn't feel like a complete answer, I
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might leave out something. You know, very normal human behavior. You don't have to be proud
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of it. Sometimes it's just easier. You know, sometimes it's just convenience. It's not a big
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deal. So watch for people's technique. And those are just a sample. But if you look at
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the way they lie, you can, you can find people's pattern and then you'll see it every time.
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All right. But Jimmy Fallon had a really funny joke about Joe Biden's fist bump with the crown
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prince of Saudi Arabia. Jimmy Fallon's joke is that it wasn't the fist bump. He was trying
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to punch him as hard as he could. That's the best he could do. And, you know, it's Jimmy
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Fallon's joke. So I'll let him have the joke. But I was imagining me telling the joke if it
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had been me telling it. I think it would have been more physical. It would have been, you
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know, Joe Biden winding up and the crown prince seeing it coming and saying, well, it looks like
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he's going to punch me. I better stop that. So he puts his fist out. It's a good joke.
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But are you surprised that, you know, somebody who would be left oriented, Jimmy Fallon,
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would go right after him for how weak he is? But did you see CNN's top left page today?
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I tweeted out a screenshot of just the top left part of CNN's page. Because the top left
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is where they put the propaganda. Did you know that, by the way? All the propaganda goes in
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the top left. Because that's what people read. When you read a website, you start at the top
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left. And then you may someday get to the bottom right or the bottom, but probably not. Right?
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You're probably going to read the top left. So when they want to support a narrative,
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they don't just spread it around where it belongs. They put it in the top left. So you're damn well
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going to see it. So the top left of CNN is negative Biden pieces today. There's even a negative Jill
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Biden piece. If they're starting to shit on Jill Biden, Jill Biden. Right? Not Hunter, not Joe,
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but Jill. All right. Now, let me put my personal line in the sand here. I don't make fun of first
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ladies generally. And if someday there's a first gentleman, I'm not going to make fun of that person
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either. Because they didn't run for office. Right? Yeah, I get that they're part of the deal. But when
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they got married, they probably weren't thinking about running for office. So the spouses, I always
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give the spouses a free pass. I don't care if it's Melania or Jill or even Hillary Clinton when she was
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like, just leave them alone. Leave them alone. If they're trying hard, I'm good with that.
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You know, put in a little effort. That'd be good. Put a little effort. Now, nobody can say
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nobody can say that Jill Biden isn't putting in the effort. Am I right? She might be the hardest
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working person in government and she wasn't even elected. So I'm not going to dump on Jill Biden,
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you know, unless it's just funny or something. I might do that. But just let her, you know,
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just understand, we didn't elect her. Right? She doesn't, she's not, she doesn't deserve,
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well, nobody deserves anything. All right. Here's a question for you. If you had some word salad
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and you wanted to keep it in a container of some sort, what is the right container for word salad?
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Well, my answer is Kamala Harris's pantsuit. Kamala Harris's pantsuit. That's a little joke. I'm sorry.
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But I feel as if almost every day we see a new clip of her babbling like an idiot.
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How many babbling idiot clips can you create out of one person who doesn't really talk that much in
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public? Makes me wonder if you could do that with me. So now I have, what, almost 700 hours of live
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stream? In my 700 hours of live streams, do you think you could put together a compilation clip
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where I'm babbling? Actually, I don't think so. I mean, I've been stoned on half of them. And I still
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don't think you could put together a babbling clip. But imagine the babbling clip you could put together
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with Kabbalah. So he says, Jill is guilty of exploiting Joe. No, that's mind reading. That's
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mind reading. She may just find herself in this situation. Right? She just might be making the
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best of the situation. I don't know. But I'm not going to accuse her of something based on me
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reading her mind. That's not going to happen. All right. So MSNBC on-air news host,
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type person, Katie Turr, is noting that there's no trust in the media. And sometimes she's wondering
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if she's doing any good. Only 16% of Americans said they have a great deal or a lot of confidence
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in newspapers in 2022. Only 16% have a great deal of confidence. And that's, you know, down since 2021.
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This was according to Gallup. And Katie Turr complains that, you know, maybe she's not helping the world.
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Well, Katie, most of Katie's news is on a network that doesn't even report real news. It's almost an
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entirely propaganda network. And, well, you know, let me digress for a moment. I think the most
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important part of this story is what kind of nickname did the cruel kids give Katie Turr,
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T-U-R, T-U-R is her last name, in high school. Now, is that a married name? I don't know if it's a
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married name. It might be a married name. That's not as funny. Well, no, it's not Turr. No, it's Katie
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Turr. Turr. It's three quarters of a turd. Yeah, it's three quarters of a turd, but it's not a full
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turd. And I think that has to be noted. So Katie, who is three quarters of a turd, in name only,
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in name only, we're not insulting her. It's just her name. That's how, that's, I didn't make that up.
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thinks, so Rasmussen poll asked voters, how many think that Joe Biden profited from China deals?
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Now, we know that Hunter Biden profited from China deals. That's in evidence. But it's a little less
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proven that Joe Biden made money from it. No, and I would say it's unproven at this point. I have not
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seen evidence that would, you know, guarantee he made money. There's indications. Yeah, there are
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suggestions. There are flags. There are flags and suggestions. There are signals. There are signals.
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But there's not proof yet that I've seen. However, 62% of the public, according to Rasmussen poll,
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believes that Biden made some money from China deals.
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How often do you get 62% of anybody agreeing on anything? Did Trump ever have 62% of the public
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have a negative thought about a single topic? You know, maybe, maybe the January 6th thing would
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create that. But while he was in office, I don't know, I don't think he was ever that unpopular,
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was he? All right. Here's something that... So the Democrats have this belief, and I don't know
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what to do with it. The belief is that if you ask for an audit of an election that you think
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was suspicious, your true intention is to become a dictator. Let me say that again. This is the
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two plus two equals four that the Democrats have put together. If you insist on an audit of an
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election that about half the country thinks isn't credible, and so you ask to check, is this really
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credible? That means your inner thoughts are to become a dictator. So if you're working hard to
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make sure that a vote was accurate and fair, that's proof that you want to be a dictator.
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Democrats also have other things that are similar to that. So working hard to make sure that an
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election was fair, that equals trying to be a dictator. But taking a drink of water is proof
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Taking a ride in a car is proof that you don't believe airplanes exist. There are a lot of things
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that you can prove in the Democrat way. If you water a plant in your house, that's proof that you have
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cancer. If you take a walk in a nice summer day, that's proof you're a murderer. If you wake up and
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stretch like this, like that, that's proof you're a pedophile. If you tell a joke,
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if people laugh, that's proof you're probably Hitler. Now, I could go on, but I think you see the
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pattern. Orange plus pineapple equals hammer. And that is who wants to run the country. No, I correct
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myself. That is who is running the country. The people who say apple plus banana equals hammer
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are in charge of the country. The Democrats. So that's happening.
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I learned that from a brainwashed NPC today. Joe Rogan apparently is not on board with the Trump
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train. Never has been. He was never a Trump supporter in terms of voting. But he's called
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Trump on man-baby and thinks all of his energy comes from Adderall. Okay. Here's my question.
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And I thought, I think I saw Cenk Uyghur saying, if Trump doesn't have the right wing, he can't
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win. To which other people said, who are you calling the right wing? Are you calling Joe
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Rogan who supported Bernie for president? The right wing? Let me give you another example
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of Democrat thinking. If the guy who supported Bernie is right wing, there are other things
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you can imagine that Democrats also think. If it's light out at 12 noon, that could be indication
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that it's dark. I don't know. A lot of things are non-obvious, but the Democrats have explained
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it to us. Well, what do you think, but more generally, what do you think of the prominent
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prior supporters of Trump who may not be on board this time? I don't think Mike Cernovich is
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on board, but I can't speak for him. He has complicated thoughts, so I don't try to summarize
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them if I can avoid it. I'm not on board. So, yeah, who cares? Do you think it'd make
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a difference? Do you think it would make a difference if some of the, let's say, I'm not
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going to call myself charismatic, but I'll say other charismatic people who had some influence
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may not be on board? What do you think? Scott just wants to win, somebody says. Is there
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somebody who doesn't want to win? Somebody here is saying, if Cernovich is out, Trump has
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no shot. What do you think? See, I think this might be one of those situations where the world
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finds out, like, how it really works. Let me ask you that question. How many of you think
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that Mike Cernovich being not on board with Trump would be enough to make it impossible
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for him to win? What do you think? Or would it even have a big impact? You don't have to
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say impossible. Most of you are saying no, but I think I asked my question wrong. Is the no
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that he would have no impact or that Trump couldn't get elected? I don't know which way I ask the
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question now. I don't know if the no is agreeing with the thought or disagree. No impact? No
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impact. So most of you are saying small or no impact. So that would mean that your belief
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is that Cernovich is not influential beyond maybe his, you know, his core supporters. Is
00:31:34.500
that what you think? How about me? Let's move to me. Let's say, hypothetically, and this
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is probable, let's say that I'm not on board with Trump for another term. Would I have any
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impact? Local says no. Mostly no. A few yeses, but mostly no. Not anymore. That would be
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a good answer. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. All right. So most of you believe that
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my opinion, and I'll just use Mike Cernovich as an example, not important. Joe Rogan's opinion.
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If Joe Rogan went from, you know, maybe, you know, disinterest in Trump to maybe outright
00:32:19.740
negative, would that make a difference? No impact. Interesting. So who do you think changes
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public opinion? Who do you think moves the public opinion? Fox News? Do you believe that
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you all are making up your own opinions? Tucker? Yeah. Oh, is Tucker going to be pro-Trump?
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Oh, there's an interesting question. Will Tucker be pro-Trump? What has he, I don't think,
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well, Tucker probably won't endorse somebody, but we would know by the way he covers it.
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Yeah. What about Greg Gottfeld? How is he going to handle a potential Trump run? But, all right,
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you tell me, who do you think, who do you think there was a non-politician who would be the most
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influential on the question of whether Trump gets re-elected? Name the most influential non-politician.
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Ben Shapiro? Ben Shapiro? Steve Bannon? Elon Musk? Well, Elon Musk, I wouldn't put in that list.
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The Pope, Trump Jr., Elon Musk, Tucker, Rogan. Interesting. So, Barron Rothschild.
00:33:45.660
I'm going to give you a special credit for whoever said Barron Rothschild. I like that Soros or Rothschild
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get thrown into every conversation. Levin? All right. A lot of you think it's Tucker,
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but here's an interesting question. Do we know what Tucker's opinion would be on the second Trump run?
00:34:10.220
I don't think I know the answer to that. I mean, maybe he's, you know, not talking about it yet.
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All right. I'm going to break some news for you. Want me to break some news? Tiny news. Little news.
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So, yesterday, Russell Brand's producer asked me if I would appear on Russell Brand's podcast.
00:34:44.260
So, sometime in the next few weeks, Russell Brand and I will have a conversation,
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probably on the topic of all things important and political, I guess. I don't know.
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We'll decide what it is when we get there. Now, how do you think that's going to go?
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What do you think? I mean, seriously, how do you think that's going to go?
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I am so curious. I have to admit, this is the most excited I've ever been about a conversation.
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And I would call it a conversation. It's not, I don't think it's an interview, per se.
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But, I don't think I've ever been more excited. And you know why?
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By the way, do you know why I'm excited about it?
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This will be a good test to see how much, how well you know me.
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I mean, neither of us have any guardrails, so it could go anywhere.
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So, some people are saying it would be smart and funny, and in a perfect world it would be.
00:35:56.160
It's not just because he's smart. He is brilliant.
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It's not just because he has 6 million viewers, but that's a big part of it.
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Have you ever seen two open-minded people on a large platform have a conversation about politics?
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I think Joe Rogan is maybe the best interviewer we have.
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I would say he's in the top whatever, you know, maybe the best.
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Joe Rogan's genius is that he makes stars out of his guests.
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Johnny Carson's always a star, but what he does really well is he makes his guests the star.
00:37:06.380
Now, what I see in, and, you know, he has plenty of opinions too, but it's more about making the guests the star.
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I think in the case of, in Russell Brand's case, I think his input, you know, is more central to the show.
00:37:29.820
Have you ever seen two people who actually maybe could understand some of the topics, who are open-minded and had a big platform and talked about the big issues in public?
00:37:51.220
I'm a big fan of Russell Brand, so, you know, it's exciting just because it's him.
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But, you know, I've lived in this world long enough that celebrity contact isn't exciting too much on its own.
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Like, I need a little extra to make it exciting.
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And I believe that his ability to take a topic where it needs to go is damn near unparalleled.
00:38:21.060
So if you put this together, I don't know, it feels like matches and dynamite.
00:38:30.860
I don't know who's match and who's dynamite, but it's definitely a match and a dynamite.
00:38:38.860
We might, I don't know, but I feel like we're going to make a small tear in the fabric of reality.
00:38:53.140
Musk has, Elon Musk filed a counterclaim, lawsuit-type thing against Twitter.
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And he's got his arguments that Twitter fired some high-level executives, and they weren't supposed to do that without checking with the potential buyer.
00:39:08.100
But what do you think, what do you think are the odds of Elon Musk prevailing in court or Twitter prevailing under the situation that you know about?
00:39:18.700
Which is that there may be some question about how many bots there are, and Elon Musk can't find that out, and it's material.
00:39:29.060
Now, whether or not the arrangement said something about, I'm not going to look into things, I still think such a material promise is important.
00:39:38.140
Like, I don't think they can just lie to you and say, well, you said you weren't going to look into it, so we just lied to you.
00:39:46.720
I mean, this is sort of an area of the law, like all the rest, that I have no real appreciation for.
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But I'll tell you my feeling is that Elon Musk will prevail in court.
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Now, he might end up buying the company, but it would be at a different price, and it would be after he found out how many bots were there.
00:40:08.160
But that would be a whole separate conversation.
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Now, part of it is, I can't believe that Musk would have gotten himself into this situation without having an escape hatch.
00:40:21.380
Because he's not like the guy who doesn't think it through, right?
00:40:35.440
So I have a feeling that he has the stronger case and maybe knows it, and maybe there's nothing happening here that isn't going to work in his favor.
00:40:45.000
I feel like all that's happening is Musk is finding the lowest price for this asset, and once he finds it, he'll pull the trigger.
00:40:55.660
But I will put this prediction in a, not as a binary, like it's, you know, he buys it, it happens or not.
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So I'll go with 60% chance that Musk wins and buys the company at a lower price, eventually.
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I think walk away is a reasonable prediction, yeah.
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It's entirely possible that Elon Musk has no interest in Twitter by now.
00:41:40.640
So on the Fox website, since I often point out CNN's fake news, I like to balance.
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Do you believe there's any fake news on the Fox News website today?
00:41:51.720
Well, an article there by Tyler Olson on Fox News, he mentions this just in a throwaway line
00:42:02.580
about Biden making regular gaffes, ranging from the inane, like appearing to shake hands with a person who is not there.
00:42:16.140
As far as I know, Biden has never attempted to shake hands with a person not there.
00:42:21.580
He has, on at least two occasions, signaled with his open hand that he was asking,
00:42:27.880
should I walk over here, or do we go sit here, or you go first.
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And then it gets clipped so you don't see that's what he's doing.
00:42:39.460
Now, the way it was worded was kind of interesting.
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It's called a gaffe, which doesn't mean necessarily that you were stupid or wrong.
00:42:47.620
It means you did something that turned out poorly.
00:42:51.380
And one example is it appearing to try to shake hands with a person who's not there.
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I think if you write that it appears he tried to shake hands,
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you need to clarify that it appeared like that to people who saw the video and of context.
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It didn't appear like that to me when I saw the full audio, or full video.
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If you saw the full thing, it appeared he was motioning toward a chair.
00:43:25.960
As you know, the Pulitzer Committee had given Pulitzer Prizes for the New York Times and Washington Post writers
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for their coverage of Russiagate, which turned out to be total bullshit.
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So, I guess the Pulitzer Committee, the board, they had two reviews to find out if these Pulitzer awards were, you know, still something they would back.
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So, the Pulitzer Committee has doubled down about giving the Pulitzer-wide review to writers who literally made up fake news
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and sold it to the public and tried to destroy the republic.
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And they got a Pulitzer for writing bullshit that nearly destroyed the country.
00:44:12.460
I'm wondering, is it too late for Hitler to get a Pulitzer from Mein Kampf?
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Because I don't know that there's a time limit, right?
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You could have written a book a long time ago and you still could get a Pulitzer, can it not?
00:44:30.820
So, I would say, you know, maybe they should consider that, since they obviously have no ethical or moral core whatsoever.
00:44:41.900
Here's a name of a politician who followed me on Twitter today, and so I followed back because I had to.
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Sometimes there's a follow that you say, oh, I think I'll follow, this could be fun.
00:45:01.480
All right, he's running for Congress in Arizona, and he's a, if I can judge correctly from his profile picture,
00:45:10.540
I judge him to be a black American whose actual name is Walt Blackman.
00:45:20.840
So, if you're a Republican running for Congress, you're going to get all the Republican votes,
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But if your last name is Blackman and you're a black man, aren't you going to get 20% of the Democrat votes automatically?
00:45:38.280
Just the fact that he's a black man who's called Blackman?
00:45:49.340
If Walt Blackman has any skills whatsoever, he will be your president someday.
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I just followed him on Twitter today because he followed me.
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Seems like the right age for building up his political resume.
00:46:14.340
But, if you just say he's a good-looking guy, he's about the right age, and he's a Republican, and his name is Blackman,
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how in the world does he ever lose an election?
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Like, you'd have to be terrible at campaigning to lose under those conditions.
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Anyway, if you feel like it, give him a follow.
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But, mark my words, you might hear from him again.
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I think I was going to talk about something else, but it changed my mind.
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I think that covers all the many fascinating things that I wanted to discuss today.
00:47:02.460
I'm hoping we'll see more imaginary evidence in the January 6th hearings today.
00:47:10.220
Imaginary evidence is the kind where the president says something like,
00:47:15.040
can I have a, can somebody bring me a Diet Coke?
00:47:19.340
And then somebody reports it as, he asked for a Diet Coke,
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and that's mafia talk for overthrowing the country.
00:47:27.180
So, that's pretty much the quality of the evidence.
00:47:36.980
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is actually happening.
00:47:45.500
It's kind of a difficult thing to juggle at the moment.
00:47:48.900
Because there are two things that Steve Bannon has new that he has to add to his schedule.
00:47:53.880
One of the new things is he has to testify to Congress, which he's agreed to do.
00:47:59.420
So, he's got to work that into his schedule, testify to Congress.
00:48:03.060
At the same time, he has to work into his schedule the court case in which he's being charged
00:48:08.520
for not doing that, testifying to Congress voluntarily.
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So, he's got to figure out how to balance his schedule to testify to Congress,
00:48:18.680
but also try to stay in a jail for being accused of not testifying to Congress,
00:48:25.340
Now, I understand there's a timing issue, and the Democrats have said,
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oh, no, he has to be prosecuted because at one point he said no, and that's against the law.
00:48:38.860
So, even though at one point he said no, but even while the proceedings are still going,
00:48:43.260
so it's not too late at all, it's not too late, he agreed to do it,
00:48:52.880
So, your tax dollars are going to seat a jury to have a trial to convict a guy
00:49:00.580
for not doing the thing that he's actually doing at the moment.
00:49:05.420
Like, at the moment that the jury will be deliberating, you know, possibly,
00:49:11.300
they'll actually be deliberating whether they should punish him for not doing
00:49:15.980
the thing he's doing, doing in public, where everybody's watching, at the same time.
00:49:28.180
Now, I get there's a technical reason why he'd have to be charged
00:49:31.200
if you want it to be a complete asshole, right?
00:49:38.600
If the ban in trial turned into, you know, him being railroaded,
00:49:44.580
and a January 6th-like crowd surrounded the courtroom,
00:49:50.580
and there was violence that broke out, which nobody recommends,
00:49:56.080
would you say that was a good thing, a feature, or a flaw?
00:49:59.420
Would that be a feature or a flaw if a giant protest
00:50:04.560
with some actual danger broke out around the courtroom?
00:50:17.480
you're not going to talk Americans out of forming a crowd
00:50:24.400
And the signal that big is that we've just forgotten
00:50:32.540
and we don't care who we crush in the meantime.
00:50:40.720
So I'm not like some big, you know, Steve Bannon supporter.
00:50:58.260
And by the way, I would say exactly the same thing
00:51:05.800
for not doing the thing he's doing at the moment,
00:51:14.860
But, yeah, if a crowd forms around the courtroom
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because it always does when there's a big crowd,
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I think I've delivered the finest entertainment
00:52:05.300
Can you imagine someone trying to tell you what to do?
00:52:37.460
Can I provide guidance for how to provide friction
00:53:27.600
you could have two kids raised exactly the same.
00:53:48.800
is what's going to make the difference in that,
00:54:17.740
that are more cripplingly negative in this world
00:54:51.820
you're not really playing on a real field here.