Episode 1813 Scott Adams: The January 6th Narrative Has Fallen Apart. A New HOAX Has Replaced It
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On today's show, Scott Adams talks about the collapse of the Democratic Party's attempt to prove that Trump knew he lost the election, but tried to take over the country anyway, and why he didn't do anything to stop it.
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the day. The thing that makes everything better. What's it called? Yes, the simultaneous sip.
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Go. Oh, so good. Somebody noted that I seem to be able to
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remember other things, but I can't remember the cup or a mug or a glass thing that I do
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every morning. There's a reason for that. My memory doesn't store randomized things. I
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can only store things that have context. So I can remember a joke, for example, because
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if I remember the concept of the joke, then I just connect it to other jokes and it comes
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out. But I don't have any mechanism for memorizing random stuff. So I could probably go forever
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without remembering that. Well, let's talk about all the things.
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So apparently the January 6th narrative has completely collapsed. And the narrative was,
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we're going to prove to you that Trump knew he lost, but tried to take over the country
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anyway. Have they proven that? Have they shown any evidence at all? Anything? Nope. Nope. Not
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a, not a single scintilla of evidence of their primary claim, right? The primary claim, he knew
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he lost, he was trying to take over the country anyway, has not been proven. Not only has it not
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been proven, I would say it's been debunked. Because not only did Trump not try to take over
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the country, or at least there's no evidence of it, but how do you explain that Don Jr. wasn't
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in on the plot? Isn't that the funniest part? To be a Democrat, you have to accept that Don Jr.
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wasn't let in on the plot to take over the country. Hadn't even mentioned it to him.
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I mean, seriously. Seriously. How could you hold that in your head as true? Yeah. Trump was trying
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to take over the country. You know who he never mentioned it to? Ivanka and Don Jr. Didn't mention
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it. Didn't seem to think it was important. Come on. The narrative is so completely destroyed at
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this point. That it appears that the Democrats are trying to tell you that that wasn't really
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the narrative. The real narrative is that he didn't do enough to stop it. And so the January
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6th people have reported that there was 187 minutes in which he did nothing to try to stop
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it. That's what the January 6th committee is telling the world. Now, the 187 minutes, that's
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based on nothing. They made it up. They actually just made it up. The New York Times and the
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Washington Post both have timelines in which that's not there. I think there's about 30 minutes
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before he spoke and said to everybody, be peaceful, go home. 30 minutes is basically
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the time it takes to decide you're going to speak. Right? So the actual evidence that the
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New York Times, the Washington Post, their timeline completely debunks the second main point of the
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January 6th hearings, that he didn't do enough. Yes. And he also tweeted during that time and
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Twitter took down his tweets. All right. So what do you think is the proper outcome
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of a hearing in which the primary thing is not proven, in fact debunked, the primary claim
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that he knew he lost and he was acting to organize a coup. That is now completely debunked by the
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people who are trying to prove it true. Right? It'd be one thing if Republicans had debunked it,
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but the Democrats just debunked their own theory by not, you know, by looking as hard as they could
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and producing no evidence whatsoever for it. None. But how much evidence do they have for the
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waited 187 minutes claim? Not only no evidence, it's been hard debunked by their own side.
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Now, what do you think should be the outcome in that situation? Do you think Trump should be charged
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and jailed for what has been totally debunked? Probably not. You probably don't think that.
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Do you think that he should be, you know, let's say punished by voters for waiting for 187 minutes when
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it's now proven by lots of sources that that never happened? Well, here's what I think. I think the
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members of the January 6th committee, unless they correct it, because I'd give them time to correct
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it. But if they don't correct that, they should go to jail. Now, I don't know what the crime would
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be, but if you, if you're pushing a fake fact in front of the country that changes the nature of
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politics, who can run, who's going to be president, that's, that's so close to insurrection or treason
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or something. Like, I don't know if it's a crime. But if you ask me what would be the, what would be
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justice? Justice, in this case, would be the committee themselves going to jail. Not being
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sanctioned, not being sanctioned, but actually going to jail. I'm talking about some serious jail time.
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Now, that's only if they don't correct the error that by now they know is an error. If they stick
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with the, he didn't do anything, I think they have to be jailed. For what? Insurrection.
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I mean, if they're trying to change politics by an obvious, you know, clear lie that won't,
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there won't be any question about the fact that it's a lie by the end of today.
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Right? It's a, it's an attempt to change politics without using the system. If you're trying to
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change our politics without using our system, and you're not transparent about it, it would
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be okay if you were transparent. Right? The stuff Mark Elias did, allegedly, you know, getting
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some rules changed before the election. That's all legal. You can, you can hate it, but it's
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all legal. You know, the other side should do it too. It's legal. You know, get, do as much
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But if you do something that's clearly outside the system, and you're trying to change the
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system, I think jail time. I mean, I think that's a real conversation we have to have.
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I think Liz Cheney should be looking at jail time, same as Kinzinger, for this. Now, again,
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if they correct themselves today, they have plenty of time to do it, but if they correct themselves
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today, I'd say, oh, okay. Okay, that's a mistake. Maybe it was a mistake, but I'm willing
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to, you know, a 48-hour correction, I'd say that's good enough. I don't know if it's sedition
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or treason or insurrection or coup or whatever it is, but it's certainly the crime that they're
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trying to find. If they're looking for something that looks a lot like a coup, they are it.
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They became the coup. Maybe they didn't start that way, but they became the coup.
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If they're trying to sell the 187 minutes, what do you make of the fact that probably
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the most important question about January 6th is who was doing what about the security
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of the Capitol? Who was doing what? You know, who did what and when to protect the Capitol?
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And that's primarily Pelosi's responsibility, isn't it? Am I wrong? Nancy Pelosi was in charge
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of security for the Capitol. And is she not testifying? Has she been asked to testify?
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Shouldn't they be asking her in public, you know, what did you know when and what did you
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do about it? Has she ever even been interviewed about it? Has she ever sat for an interview
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and just an interviewer of any kind just in the news said, you know, what did you do? Why didn't
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you, why didn't you do this? Why did you do that? How do we just sit here and watch this
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like it's okay? It's okay. I mean, it's a clearly they're railroading Republicans. You know,
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if you have any question about Republicans being hunted, I mean, here it is. This is a pretty
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obvious case. Anyway, I think the food supply is going to be okay. Here's my optimism for
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the day. Were you worried that the country was, or the country or the world, I guess,
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would run out of food? It looks like it's not going to happen. Now, part of it is a big
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story that Ukraine and Russia signed a deal in which, you know, the grain would go through
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a Turkish, I don't know, Turkish ownership or something briefly. But basically, they found
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a way to ship the, at least a lot of the grain from Ukraine. Now, that's not, you know, the
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full answer. That's not the full answer, but I don't think the country's going to run out
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of food. And it looks like our shipping situation, you know, at the very least, they would prioritize
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the food for shipping, right? Does that happen? I'm assuming that if you're a port and you've
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got a hundred ships waiting and one of them has food on it, it goes first, right? If it's
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something that would spoil. It's delayed. We have about two years under these windmill
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policies. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay. Oh, it's delayed. You mean the
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food shortage is delayed. No grain was planted. Yeah, you know, I've got a feeling that the
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Food ships go to bulk terminals. So they have their own path. Is that what you're saying?
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All right. I don't know. It's just my feeling that we're going to get past the food supply
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problem. And you might not even notice it. You might notice a few things. Cernod disagrees,
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disagrees with the food shortage thing. Let's find out. So this is a good test of the Adams
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law of slow moving disasters. Now you could argue that one year is not slow. Maybe that's
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too fast. So this is a good edge case. I think it's long enough that millions of people made
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millions of adjustments because they see it coming, right? Don't you think that other places
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are planting more grain? Cernod eventually predicts food issues for 2023? I think there'll
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be food issues. There'll definitely be issues. I just don't think there's going to be mass
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starvation. It's just going to be a problem we have to work through, I think. I think. So let's
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compare our predictions, right? So my prediction is that food shortage for America, we have to make
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that difference, right? For America, we'll probably just be prices higher, which is plenty bad, but
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that's what it will look like, I think. And I think there might be, you know, you might have a country
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that for a while things get tight, but I think we'll figure it out. All right. Provocatively, I tweeted
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that so far the January 6th hearings have proven Trump was guilty of the crime of leadership.
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That's what I say. I say Trump was guilty of leadership. And I went on and said, good leaders
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do unpopular and risky things based on, you know, often gut instinct about what is the right thing
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to do. That's what he did. Everything that Trump did on January 6th, at least the stuff that's
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confirmed, is all consistent with leadership. Now you're saying to me, Scott, there's good
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leadership and there's bad leadership. Well, yes, but you usually don't know about that until
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after the point. Wait, gross pork? You're saying this is ridiculous sophistry before you hear the
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fucking argument. Look, you stupid piece of shit. Listen to the point, then make a comment.
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We'll hide you on this channel and let the smarter people have a little more time.
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Okay? So first you listen and then you form an opinion. If you do that opposite, form an opinion
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opinion and then listen, well, you're a fucking idiot. So you got that going for you. Here's
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my argument, which you have not yet heard. All right? Management is a bunch of people doing
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what they all agree to do. Management and supervision. Management and supervision refer to everybody
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doing what they kind of all agree should be done. But the manager is just the timekeeper and, you know,
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the judge and making sure it gets done. Would you agree? Management is about doing something that
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everybody agrees needs to get done. Leadership is stuff that people don't agree on.
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It's leadership if people don't agree. All right? You don't need any leadership to eat a cookie,
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do you? Who needs to tell you to eat a cookie if you like cookies? Nobody. You don't need any
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leadership to do that. You only need leadership to do shit you don't want to do. I want you to grab
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that machine gun and run toward that enemy position through that hail of bullets. And this might not
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be good for you, but it will be good for other people. It will be good for other people. That's
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leadership. Leadership is getting people to do things they didn't know they wanted to do or don't
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quite understand or need to be led to. Now, if Trump was right, let's play a hypothetical.
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We'll start with no courts have shown that there was any fraud in 2020. Everybody on the same page?
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They didn't look for it and they weren't the right place to judge that, but they didn't find any.
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It's true they didn't find any by virtue of not looking and saying they didn't have standing
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in most cases. But it's true that none has been produced that is, you know, court blessed.
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So we got that. So it really comes down to what was Trump thinking?
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If he was thinking that he had witnessed a rigged election, what would leadership require him to do?
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What would it require him to do? Would it require him to allow the election to be certified?
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And then let me ask you this question. If the election got certified, can you imagine any scenario
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it would ever be reversed, even if you found out the vote had been rigged? I can't. I don't see any
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scenario in which we would ever reverse a certified election. Would we all agree with that? I mean,
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not in the real world. I mean, you can imagine some hypothetical, but not in the real world.
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The Supreme Court's not going to reverse it. It's just not going to happen. Nor do I think it should.
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Like, if it turned out it was just a little bit of sketchiness.
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Now, I think I might defer to the system over the specific outcome.
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If Trump believed it had been rigged, what was he supposed to do?
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A leader probably would have done almost exactly what he did.
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Do you think that all of his Mongol hordes wanted to do exactly what he told them to do?
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Some of them probably wanted to stay home and do a little farming.
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Now, I'm not telling you that Trump was right, because the life of a leader is if you guess right and it works out, well, then you're George Washington.
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If you guess wrong and it doesn't work out, well, then you're a loser.
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What Trump was doing was not expected, not normal, not part of the normal system.
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That's the reason there's a whole January 6th thing, right?
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Outside the system was the only place he had to operate.
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If he operated within the system, you knew what the outcome would be, a certified election.
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So George Washington won, so he gets to be a hero and a leader.
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But George Washington would have been a loser, and history would have judged him poorly, I guess, if he lost.
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There's a troll on YouTube who's trying to use my actual accurate age as my insult.
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There's somebody here who thinks he's immune from aging, I think.
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You know, if you get to my age, and you still have a live stream audience, you better pat yourself on the fucking back.
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I don't know what age you are, but you're not exactly making a dent in the universe here.
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So maybe pick up your game a little bit, and come back.
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All right, well, so I don't defend what Trump did or did not do on January 6th, so I want to make that very clear.
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If Trump had stopped the election, let's say delayed, if he had delayed the election certification, and, and this is a big if, I don't think it would have happened,
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and found out that the election was wrong, you know, rigged.
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In other words, if he'd been right, and we don't know he was wrong, I would say, I would say we probably do know, I'm not sure about this.
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I think we do know that if they had delayed, the kind of delay they were asking for, sort of a normal audit recount of the votes, probably wouldn't have made any difference, right?
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So I think if he'd gotten a delay, it would have just gone back to where it was, you know.
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They would have, they would have done the recount, it would have been the same result.
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Because the only things you could recount are things that got counted in the first place.
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If a ballot never makes it to the, you know, I don't know if there's a way to do that.
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But if a ballot never gets run through the counting machine, how do you recount it?
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How in the world can you know an election was rigged?
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The only thing you can know is you didn't find any problems.
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So I would like to argue that what has been proven by January 6th is that Trump did what a leader with a strong intuition, unproven, but a strong intuition, that he needed to go outside the system to fix a wrong.
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He didn't fix it, but it looks like he operated on his assumption.
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And I would say we don't know his assumption was wrong.
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So at the moment, he is still in the, in my opinion, he's still in the, what is the cat that's half dead box?
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If you knew what he was thinking, well, then you'd know if the cat was alive or dead.
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But the January 6th people are thinking he assumed that he was just lying.
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There's some weird thing going on with the word groomer and Twitter.
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And so, so as you know, there are a lot of people on the political right have been using that word groomer to refer to people trying to teach young children about the, let's say the, what would I say?
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The, the full diversity of, of gender and sexuality.
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And that the people on the right are saying, hey, don't teach our children all these things.
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And that maybe what you're doing is grooming them, meaning making children friendly to some future encounter that maybe they would not otherwise be friendly to.
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Well, I think it's a, it's a stretch of the word.
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But I would not condone it, except that it really is just the response to racist, isn't it?
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Groomer is just that thing that when you get called a groomer, you can't get it off because the accusation is as good as the fact.
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Once you've been called a racist and it gets on the Internet, it doesn't matter that you're not.
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So, same way, it doesn't matter if the people being accused are actually groomers, that's their intent, or anything.
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Because the accusation, you know, is damning enough.
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So, while I disagree with the use, and I don't believe, have you ever heard me use it?
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It's not in my domain of things I would naturally go to.
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I'll talk about it, but I'm not going to call somebody a groomer, because that assumes something about their inner thoughts that I don't know is in evidence.
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Just as the January 6th hearings have probably made it a guarantee that Trump will return to office, that's my opinion.
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In my opinion, the January 6th thing, here, let me explain this, and then I'll digress back to the groomer thing.
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He's a famous defense attorney, retired now, I assume.
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But he taught us that if you want to win a case for your client, he was usually working for the person who was injured.
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He takes the jury, and he makes them imagine they're in the place of the person who was victimized.
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If you put somebody in the story, they will abandon their logical feeling about the story,
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and they'll replace it with the emotions that they got when they were imagining themselves as the victim.
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And apparently that works pretty much every time.
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It's like a really strong, really strong persuasion.
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Now think what the January 6th people did accidentally.
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Think about all the you-are-there videos they showed,
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They were trying, intentionally, to put you into the crowd, were they not?
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Were they not trying to put you into the crowd so you could feel the danger?
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Like the people watching this live stream who largely are going to be, you know,
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If you were a Republican or if you were a Trump supporter
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Oh, my God, they're trying to hunt and jail people like me.
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People who believe there was something wrong with the election,
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You're saying, oh, my God, everybody there is just like me.
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And actually, they're doing things that I would have done.
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but I would have, right, under the right conditions.
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Let's say the, you know, the Republicans who are Trump-friendly.
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Wrong in terms of the intentions of the January 6th hearing.
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Their intention was to make you identify with the,
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The point of it was, Congress is showing you this,
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to hope that you would identify with members of Congress.
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to get you to identify with the members of Congress,
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to feel how they felt when all this violence was happening.
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Because Congress feels more like the enemy, doesn't it?
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trying to get something done and being demonized for it.
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if you asked me would I support Trump for president,
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After about eight weeks of listening to the January 6th show trial,
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he's the only person who probably has the balls to do something about it.
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Scott, you know, all those things you don't want to happen again,
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you know, all the things that happen to your own career.
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just by saying anything good about the Trump experience.
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And I feel that Trump is literally the only person
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Meaning that I am abandoning my rational thought
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Like, the Democrats are making me abandon my rational thought.
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If you make me look like those coup plotters one more day,
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I'm going to give you four more years of Trump,
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It might cost me a little bit more in my career.
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Yeah, it might cost me another 20% off my career.
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Yeah, if you make me look like those fucking coup plotters again,
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If you do that to me another few fucking weeks,
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I'm going to make sure that Trump gets elected,
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and I'm going to shove him all the way up your ass
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as one of the worst political plays of all time.
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Two months ago, I wasn't sure he could get the nomination.
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I mean, it's hard for you to imagine a scenario
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with the group that has the lowest approval rating
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I think the only entity that has a lower public approval
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Let's get rid of groomer as a social media word.
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So now you can hate me and disagree with me for a second
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and then make sure it's compatible with your rules.
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I think that actually makes the service better,
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But here's what I think they're doing by accident.
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And they're not even talking about the gay part.