Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1841 Scott Adams： All The News Today Is About Men Acting Badly. Do Women Make News Anymore？

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00:01:09.040 Well, I saw a comment on locals just now.

00:01:20.880 There's somebody doing this who uses a cup and a saucer.

00:01:25.360 Oh.

00:01:26.580 Oh.

00:01:27.880 A mug's not good enough for you.

00:01:30.440 You got your cup and your saucer.

00:01:33.400 All right.

00:01:35.180 All right.

00:01:36.220 All right.

00:01:38.580 Well, someday maybe the rest of us will come up to your level.

00:01:43.080 Saucers it is.

00:01:44.980 Just imagine that.

00:01:46.280 Someday.

00:01:47.900 Someday I will have a saucer.

00:01:50.620 Well, let's talk about the news.

00:01:52.100 I would like to publicly congratulate Brian Stelter.

00:01:58.800 As you know, he's leaving his position as CNN on Reliable Sources.

00:02:05.140 I guess the ratings were not that good,

00:02:06.900 but I would like to congratulate Brian Stelter for being the only person to ever leave CNN

00:02:12.780 for a non-penis-related reason.

00:02:17.920 So that feels like a step in the right direction.

00:02:20.480 Do you remember a story, it wasn't that long ago,

00:02:25.820 about there was a CEO named Dan Price,

00:02:30.020 and he had decided that the lowest paid person in his company

00:02:34.440 would get a minimum of $70,000.

00:02:38.160 And so when he made that change,

00:02:40.460 people said,

00:02:41.240 my God, you are amazing.

00:02:46.060 You're amazing.

00:02:47.040 And so for a long time,

00:02:49.480 he was hailed as a hero.

00:02:51.640 But there seems to be a string of sexual assault charges against him.

00:02:59.780 Let me see if I could have predicted that that was going to happen.

00:03:04.460 Famous,

00:03:05.380 young,

00:03:06.280 unusually good-looking CEO.

00:03:08.380 I think he's single.

00:03:11.800 What do you think is going to happen when a young,

00:03:14.300 good-looking,

00:03:15.360 powerful guy

00:03:16.140 gets a lot of attention?

00:03:19.520 I don't know.

00:03:20.860 I feel like some sexual impropriety accusations

00:03:24.080 are going to come out of that situation.

00:03:25.600 But what I say about him,

00:03:29.980 Dan Price is,

00:03:31.760 and I don't mean this to be too cunning or too cruel,

00:03:34.420 but Dan Price,

00:03:35.960 you're no Brian Stelter.

00:03:37.980 You're no Brian Stelter.

00:03:39.740 Because he managed to go through an entire CNN career

00:03:42.580 without any accusations of sexual impropriety.

00:03:46.480 Now that could be either good or bad,

00:03:52.040 depending on your point of view.

00:03:53.420 But let's say that it's good that he didn't do it.

00:03:59.500 I'm going to say this again,

00:04:01.120 because no matter how many times I say it,

00:04:04.100 it can't be heard.

00:04:06.820 I love this category of communication.

00:04:09.740 It's sort of a little hobby of mine.

00:04:12.780 Things that can be said,

00:04:14.200 but they can't be heard.

00:04:16.480 What would be an example of something you could say,

00:04:20.860 but nobody could hear?

00:04:22.820 Lots of things.

00:04:24.360 It's basically everything that doesn't agree with your opinion.

00:04:27.480 I could say it all day long,

00:04:29.300 but you're not really going to hear it.

00:04:30.940 It's going to change on the way in.

00:04:33.340 And here's one of those.

00:04:37.320 The people on the left and the people on the right

00:04:39.620 don't have much of a problem with each other.

00:04:42.700 It's just the news.

00:04:44.920 It's just the news.

00:04:47.000 When I say just,

00:04:48.120 let's say 95%.

00:04:49.260 95% of it is the news telling you

00:04:51.820 that you're mad at the other side.

00:04:54.300 And then highlighting the people

00:04:55.720 who get the best singers in on the other side.

00:04:58.940 And highlight the people

00:05:00.060 who are getting the best singers

00:05:01.360 from their other side.

00:05:03.260 When was the last time you had an actual unhealthy experience

00:05:09.980 with just a regular person?

00:05:12.540 And if you did,

00:05:14.200 was the reason that you had an unpleasant experience

00:05:16.940 because you could tell that that person had been hypnotized

00:05:20.400 by the fake news?

00:05:22.540 Right?

00:05:23.100 Show me somebody who doesn't follow any news whatsoever,

00:05:28.440 and I don't care what their political leaning is.

00:05:32.540 I don't care how left they are.

00:05:34.900 Show me the,

00:05:36.340 I'll just use an old term,

00:05:38.260 show me some hippie who doesn't own a television

00:05:40.820 and hasn't watched the news in 20 years,

00:05:42.940 and I'll show you somebody I can get along with.

00:05:45.700 Great.

00:05:47.020 No problem at all.

00:05:49.080 You put me with a bunch of hippies.

00:05:51.800 I love them.

00:05:53.840 I love them.

00:05:55.500 And they would probably like me too.

00:05:57.520 We would have nothing to fight about.

00:06:00.060 Then take the same group of people,

00:06:02.140 you know, roughly speaking,

00:06:03.180 but they've been watching CNN and MSNBC

00:06:06.100 for the last five years.

00:06:09.140 I can't even be in the room with them.

00:06:12.020 So is there something wrong with the people

00:06:13.880 or is there something wrong with the media?

00:06:17.260 It's obvious.

00:06:18.000 It's obviously the media.

00:06:19.460 But the media is also in control

00:06:21.400 of telling you what the problem is.

00:06:23.420 So the people who are in control

00:06:25.180 of telling you what the problem is

00:06:26.620 are the problem,

00:06:28.500 and that's our problem.

00:06:30.480 If the people who are causing the most problem

00:06:33.160 would also point to themselves,

00:06:35.620 which, by the way, sometimes they do.

00:06:40.040 And Goffeld does it all the time.

00:06:42.400 And Goffeld is part of the news industry,

00:06:44.920 but it will tell you right away

00:06:47.040 that the news is part of the problem.

00:06:49.940 So you can say it all day long,

00:06:53.080 but people don't hear it.

00:06:54.320 What they hear is,

00:06:55.880 my team good, other team bad.

00:06:58.660 That's all they hear.

00:07:00.520 If you could convince people

00:07:02.180 that the real problem

00:07:05.280 was their believing of fake news,

00:07:07.780 because that's mostly the problem.

00:07:10.600 Most of the problem is believing fake news.

00:07:13.540 Here's what we need.

00:07:14.640 We don't need fact checkers.

00:07:17.640 I mean, it's helpful.

00:07:19.180 I don't mind having them,

00:07:21.240 you know, as long as there's some on both sides.

00:07:23.180 You can see both arguments.

00:07:24.740 What we need is logic fixers.

00:07:29.540 Let me give you an example.

00:07:31.700 Today, yet again, in the news,

00:07:34.040 there's a story that vitamin D

00:07:35.520 seems to be highly correlated

00:07:38.360 with good outcomes for people who have COVID.

00:07:42.100 If you've got a low vitamin D level

00:07:43.880 and you go into the hospital with COVID,

00:07:46.220 it's probably grim.

00:07:47.400 But if you had high vitamin D

00:07:49.980 and you go, you get COVID,

00:07:52.380 even if you're hospitalized,

00:07:53.980 probably won't be that bad.

00:07:56.560 So what did most of you conclude?

00:07:59.540 Do you remember in, I don't know,

00:08:02.000 it was probably early in,

00:08:04.100 I don't know what month it is.

00:08:05.380 Maybe some of you know.

00:08:06.640 What month in 2022 in the spring

00:08:08.780 did I say, hey,

00:08:11.260 it looks like all the places

00:08:12.820 that are having bad time with COVID

00:08:14.980 are coincidentally where they have low vitamin D.

00:08:19.140 Do you remember me saying that?

00:08:20.820 I said, is it my imagination

00:08:22.180 or is all the people in all the places

00:08:25.280 seems to be highly correlated with low vitamin D?

00:08:29.140 Right.

00:08:29.860 But I want to believe that, right?

00:08:33.480 How much do you think I want to believe

00:08:35.700 that the very first thing I said,

00:08:39.540 I think it was March I said the first.

00:08:41.780 In May I did a long thread.

00:08:43.360 But I think it was way earlier

00:08:45.680 that I noticed the correlation.

00:08:48.220 If somebody has either a date on that,

00:08:51.180 I'd really like, I'd really love to know.

00:08:54.080 But, all right, consider my situation, right?

00:08:57.180 I'm a public figure

00:08:58.160 and I make predictions and assertions about reality.

00:09:03.980 Don't you think I want to be right about that?

00:09:07.240 Like, how much do I want to be right

00:09:09.420 that vitamin D was really the magic bullet all along?

00:09:14.340 Right?

00:09:14.780 Because that would make me look smart.

00:09:19.020 It would make me look smart.

00:09:20.340 So I want that to be true.

00:09:21.820 But here's the problem.

00:09:23.720 Every time a new study comes out,

00:09:25.520 they show correlation

00:09:26.640 and they don't show causation.

00:09:28.800 They suggest that the argument for causation

00:09:32.400 is getting stronger,

00:09:33.800 but it isn't.

00:09:35.800 Because it's just more observational studies.

00:09:38.020 It doesn't matter how many you do.

00:09:40.680 Because the problem is

00:09:41.980 that people who have poor health in general

00:09:45.000 have low vitamin D.

00:09:46.780 So if you notice that all the people

00:09:48.400 with low vitamin D are dying,

00:09:50.680 it's either telling you that vitamin D

00:09:52.580 makes the difference,

00:09:54.080 or it's telling you that people in poor health

00:09:56.600 often have low vitamin D.

00:09:59.420 It doesn't mean it's the reason

00:10:00.880 that people are having bad outcomes.

00:10:02.760 Now, we do know

00:10:04.080 that vitamin D is essential for your health.

00:10:10.880 I think we know that.

00:10:12.300 I mean, I doubt that's going to change.

00:10:14.880 So certainly vitamin D is helpful.

00:10:17.660 We just don't know if these big numbers

00:10:19.800 are really because of vitamin D

00:10:22.220 or it's just a correlation.

00:10:24.280 People who have bad health

00:10:25.260 have bad vitamin D.

00:10:26.480 So I would love to have somebody

00:10:30.900 explain to people as it happens,

00:10:33.340 well, we don't know if the data is right,

00:10:35.240 but the way you're thinking about the data

00:10:36.980 is definitely wrong.

00:10:38.840 You get that, right?

00:10:40.160 There are two unknowns here.

00:10:41.780 One is, is the data right in the first place?

00:10:45.120 And then secondly,

00:10:46.060 did you analyze it correctly?

00:10:48.080 And I don't think necessarily

00:10:49.520 either of them are true.

00:10:50.920 I'm not sure they analyzed it right,

00:10:52.640 and I'm not even sure the data is right.

00:10:54.400 So if you're jumping to the conclusion

00:10:56.340 that vitamin D has been proven to work,

00:10:58.720 it might be true.

00:11:00.100 I certainly want it to be true

00:11:01.800 because that would make me look good.

00:11:03.840 But it's not there.

00:11:04.760 It's just not there.

00:11:08.900 All right, here's a,

00:11:11.460 I don't know how to handle this next situation.

00:11:15.120 So with your permission,

00:11:18.020 will you give me a little flexibility

00:11:19.620 on this next topic?

00:11:21.320 Because I'm going to confess to you

00:11:22.940 that I don't know if I'm going to handle it

00:11:24.660 the right way, right?

00:11:26.340 So I'm just going to do my best.

00:11:28.300 So the only thing I'm going to promise you

00:11:30.200 is I'll do my best.

00:11:32.620 But I think I'm going to fall a little short.

00:11:35.260 All right?

00:11:36.280 And there's a couple of points to be made.

00:11:38.200 Number one,

00:11:38.660 have I ever mentioned to you

00:11:39.680 that every time there's a story in the news,

00:11:42.300 it comes back to me somehow?

00:11:45.560 Like somehow I end up being connected to stories,

00:11:48.480 and it doesn't make any sense to me.

00:11:50.300 I mean, given that I do this in public,

00:11:53.940 but even doing it in public,

00:11:55.220 I don't have that much exposure

00:11:57.160 to the general public.

00:11:59.160 But the number of times

00:12:00.180 that I have some kind of connection

00:12:02.320 to something in the news

00:12:03.500 is just weird.

00:12:04.680 It's just weird.

00:12:06.100 All right.

00:12:07.100 Here's the story.

00:12:08.940 So you know that Sam Harris

00:12:10.840 was getting some pushback

00:12:12.700 for some things he said about Trump.

00:12:15.940 And here's what happened yesterday.

00:12:21.000 I got a longish message from Sam Harris,

00:12:24.780 private message,

00:12:25.960 in which he explained his position better.

00:12:30.300 Now here's my problem.

00:12:32.480 What the hell do I do now?

00:12:34.680 It was a private message.

00:12:37.400 Right?

00:12:37.940 It was a private message,

00:12:39.240 but I thought it was an important one.

00:12:40.660 In other words,

00:12:43.800 wouldn't you like to know his argument?

00:12:46.240 I don't know if he's made the argument

00:12:48.580 exactly that way anywhere else.

00:12:51.060 So here's what I don't want to do.

00:12:53.240 I don't want to read you his message

00:12:54.720 because it was a private message.

00:12:56.540 But I also don't want him

00:12:57.880 to be sitting out there

00:12:59.260 having offered something like a defense

00:13:02.020 to somebody who's been talking

00:13:03.460 about him in public

00:13:04.640 and just leave him exposed.

00:13:08.320 Because the worst thing would be

00:13:09.800 for me to paraphrase him

00:13:12.140 and then argue against him

00:13:13.460 when he's not here to defend himself.

00:13:15.880 And by the way,

00:13:16.500 I probably shouldn't tell you

00:13:17.460 what he said to me privately.

00:13:19.300 Right?

00:13:19.560 Even though it was related

00:13:20.780 to a public discussion.

00:13:24.480 All right.

00:13:25.340 So I'm uncomfortable

00:13:27.140 telling you what he said,

00:13:29.120 but I thought I would do it this way.

00:13:30.500 So here's the way

00:13:31.060 I'm going to approach it.

00:13:32.680 Do you remember I told you

00:13:33.980 that one way to see

00:13:36.080 if you're in cognitive dissonance

00:13:37.600 yourself is see

00:13:39.400 if you can defend

00:13:41.580 somebody else's argument

00:13:42.920 that you disagree with.

00:13:44.720 If you can take

00:13:45.660 the other person's argument

00:13:46.920 and give it in a reasonable way

00:13:49.520 that's close enough

00:13:50.560 to their argument,

00:13:51.640 then you're probably

00:13:52.540 not in cognitive dissonance.

00:13:54.300 You're probably just

00:13:55.120 valuing things differently.

00:13:57.220 Maybe your risk assessment's

00:13:59.720 a little different,

00:14:00.360 that sort of thing.

00:14:02.800 All right.

00:14:03.120 So I'm going to argue

00:14:05.360 Sam Harris's point

00:14:06.900 to support it.

00:14:11.640 All right.

00:14:11.860 So I'm not going to debate it.

00:14:13.200 I'm going to try to support it.

00:14:15.040 And then you can see

00:14:15.960 if there's any holes.

00:14:16.980 And I'll do the best I can.

00:14:18.180 All right.

00:14:18.800 So I'm going to try

00:14:19.720 to actually support it.

00:14:20.940 I'm not going to try

00:14:21.480 to make him look bad

00:14:22.560 by giving the weak version.

00:14:25.560 I'm not going to,

00:14:26.060 at least I'm not going

00:14:26.820 to try to do that.

00:14:27.800 So if that happens,

00:14:28.620 that would be a mistake.

00:14:30.020 All right.

00:14:30.320 Number one,

00:14:34.060 does Sam Harris think

00:14:35.920 that Trump is like Hitler

00:14:39.040 or in that class of danger?

00:14:41.680 What do you think?

00:14:42.640 You've seen his public statements.

00:14:44.640 Do you think

00:14:45.160 that he believes that?

00:14:47.520 Now, you might remember

00:14:48.740 that prior to Trump being elected,

00:14:51.960 I think it was prior to,

00:14:53.280 was it just after or prior?

00:14:55.400 But there was a point

00:14:56.660 when I was talking

00:14:58.380 to Sam Harris

00:14:59.040 on his podcast,

00:15:00.320 that he did make a,

00:15:02.740 he made a,

00:15:04.200 let's say,

00:15:04.940 almost an offhand

00:15:06.300 Hitler analogy to Trump.

00:15:09.600 So we do know

00:15:10.640 that there's at least

00:15:11.320 some statement

00:15:12.000 in which he's made

00:15:13.780 that reference, right?

00:15:16.400 So some of you

00:15:17.300 are confirming

00:15:17.880 that you've heard

00:15:18.400 him make that reference.

00:15:20.280 Now,

00:15:21.420 in his message to me,

00:15:23.920 he said that he does not

00:15:25.360 think that Trump

00:15:26.480 is in that category

00:15:27.620 with Hitler.

00:15:28.760 Hitler occupies

00:15:30.860 a completely different

00:15:32.440 category of danger.

00:15:35.320 And so I'm going to,

00:15:36.340 I'm going to say

00:15:37.000 that it was hyperbole

00:15:38.120 that he ever compared

00:15:40.160 Trump to Hitler,

00:15:41.780 but also early on,

00:15:44.120 hold on,

00:15:45.060 early on,

00:15:45.760 you could say

00:15:46.280 there's that risk,

00:15:47.300 but now that,

00:15:48.880 now that Trump

00:15:49.560 has served

00:15:50.020 one complete term,

00:15:51.540 one would have

00:15:52.680 to reassess that risk.

00:15:54.040 Are you right?

00:15:54.440 Are you with me so far?

00:15:55.360 Would you give me

00:15:58.120 this following point,

00:15:59.280 that no matter what

00:16:00.560 Sam Harris

00:16:01.900 or anybody else

00:16:02.900 said about Trump

00:16:04.520 early in his term

00:16:05.540 or before he was elected,

00:16:07.860 that that,

00:16:08.420 that could now

00:16:09.140 be discarded?

00:16:10.660 Would you,

00:16:11.120 would you agree?

00:16:11.980 Because what you thought

00:16:13.020 would happen

00:16:13.540 has to give way

00:16:15.100 to four years

00:16:16.260 of experience.

00:16:17.940 And I would say

00:16:19.320 that Sam Harris

00:16:20.100 would be on the same page.

00:16:21.240 I would say

00:16:23.180 that he would value

00:16:24.000 the four years

00:16:24.740 that we observed

00:16:25.440 as a higher truth

00:16:27.280 than guessing

00:16:28.300 what would happen,

00:16:29.380 right?

00:16:29.940 So I would say

00:16:31.140 you,

00:16:31.960 all of you,

00:16:32.780 and he are on

00:16:33.480 the same page on that,

00:16:35.220 that you would put

00:16:35.800 a higher value

00:16:36.580 on actual experience

00:16:38.280 than guessing,

00:16:39.740 okay?

00:16:40.900 Now,

00:16:41.460 having seen Trump

00:16:42.380 perform for four years,

00:16:44.900 I accept

00:16:45.880 Sam's statement

00:16:47.300 that there's nothing

00:16:48.480 Hitler-looking

00:16:49.340 per se in that.

00:16:51.240 you know,

00:16:51.640 there's not going

00:16:52.100 to be a roundup

00:16:52.840 of people,

00:16:53.800 he's not going

00:16:54.640 to start a nuclear war

00:16:56.040 for,

00:16:56.760 you know,

00:16:57.380 any obvious reason,

00:16:59.420 and that being tough

00:17:00.580 on crime

00:17:01.060 and tough on immigration

00:17:02.120 is not really Hitler.

00:17:04.540 Okay.

00:17:05.600 So,

00:17:06.060 so far,

00:17:06.640 so far,

00:17:07.360 would you agree?

00:17:08.820 So his current view

00:17:10.260 is that Trump

00:17:11.180 does not occupy

00:17:12.260 a dangerous

00:17:13.960 as Hitler situation.

00:17:15.640 Would you,

00:17:16.040 would you accept

00:17:16.800 that that's a reasonable

00:17:18.480 evolution of opinion

00:17:19.980 from,

00:17:21.800 well,

00:17:21.940 we don't know

00:17:22.420 what risk he poses

00:17:23.300 all the way to,

00:17:24.960 well,

00:17:25.140 we saw four years.

00:17:27.340 You know,

00:17:27.700 I still have my issues,

00:17:28.800 but it's not a Hitler problem.

00:17:30.280 Would you accept that?

00:17:32.040 I do.

00:17:33.020 I think that would be

00:17:33.920 a reasonable

00:17:34.760 evolution of opinion

00:17:36.420 based on

00:17:37.180 evolving information.

00:17:40.040 Now,

00:17:40.800 what problems

00:17:41.980 does Sam still have?

00:17:43.540 Well,

00:17:44.360 there are two things

00:17:45.000 which he's mentioned

00:17:45.820 recently

00:17:47.520 more than others.

00:17:49.960 One is Trump University

00:17:51.280 as an example

00:17:52.840 of Trump's character.

00:17:55.240 The other is

00:17:56.620 that Trump

00:17:58.100 doxed

00:17:58.920 some citizens.

00:18:01.320 Now,

00:18:01.700 I have to confess

00:18:02.460 I'm not aware

00:18:03.120 of those stories.

00:18:05.180 Vaguely,

00:18:05.780 I can imagine

00:18:06.600 I sort of have

00:18:07.700 a memory

00:18:08.120 of somebody

00:18:08.580 getting maybe

00:18:09.840 called out by Trump

00:18:10.880 and had trouble

00:18:11.760 and if that happened

00:18:13.100 I would be opposed

00:18:14.420 to that.

00:18:15.780 So is there anybody

00:18:16.440 here who thinks

00:18:17.180 that the President

00:18:17.880 of the United States

00:18:18.680 should be doxing

00:18:20.480 individuals?

00:18:22.680 No, right?

00:18:23.700 Does anybody think

00:18:24.400 that the President

00:18:25.340 should do that?

00:18:26.480 No.

00:18:27.360 I don't think

00:18:27.800 that's a good move.

00:18:28.900 So we can agree

00:18:29.780 with him

00:18:30.160 that it's

00:18:31.200 suboptimal.

00:18:33.700 I think some of you

00:18:34.880 are going to say

00:18:35.340 sure,

00:18:35.780 he can do it

00:18:36.240 if they do it first,

00:18:37.160 whatever.

00:18:37.720 But generally speaking,

00:18:39.340 I don't think

00:18:39.880 you want your President

00:18:40.800 targeting

00:18:41.620 law-abiding

00:18:43.040 individuals

00:18:43.680 who are exercising

00:18:45.120 freedom of speech.

00:18:46.500 I think we'd all

00:18:47.380 be on the same page,

00:18:48.280 right?

00:18:49.460 And I don't think

00:18:50.580 there are any

00:18:51.040 Trump supporters

00:18:51.940 who think

00:18:53.880 that Trump University

00:18:55.160 showed Trump

00:18:57.060 in a good light.

00:18:59.260 My personal belief

00:19:00.500 about that

00:19:01.100 is that Trump

00:19:01.820 was just a hands-off

00:19:02.940 manager

00:19:03.340 and probably didn't

00:19:04.680 know what was

00:19:05.100 going on there.

00:19:06.920 I don't know that.

00:19:08.620 But it's an assumption

00:19:09.580 that matches

00:19:11.160 everything I know

00:19:12.080 about executives

00:19:13.440 who have lots

00:19:14.380 of businesses.

00:19:15.560 I think he had

00:19:16.000 400 businesses

00:19:16.940 with his name on it

00:19:18.080 if you count

00:19:18.880 licensing deals.

00:19:20.480 You don't look

00:19:21.760 after all 400 deals.

00:19:23.580 I've done licensing

00:19:24.360 myself.

00:19:26.060 I've had lots

00:19:26.840 of licensees

00:19:27.700 for Dilbert.

00:19:28.700 Do you think

00:19:29.160 I've managed

00:19:29.760 all of them

00:19:30.460 and tracked

00:19:31.540 them all

00:19:31.980 to make sure

00:19:32.440 they were doing

00:19:32.920 what I wanted

00:19:33.440 them to do

00:19:33.960 with my property?

00:19:34.860 Well, we

00:19:36.500 required it.

00:19:37.660 I mean, they

00:19:38.100 had to report

00:19:38.680 to me, but

00:19:39.180 not really.

00:19:40.700 Not really.

00:19:41.600 That was sort of

00:19:42.280 other people

00:19:42.840 doing their job

00:19:43.600 and you hope

00:19:44.040 they did it well.

00:19:45.380 I'm guessing,

00:19:46.400 and I don't have

00:19:47.060 any information

00:19:47.700 to back this,

00:19:49.080 but if you have

00:19:50.040 400 companies

00:19:51.120 with your name

00:19:51.780 on it

00:19:52.220 and you're doing

00:19:53.380 as much business

00:19:54.260 as Trump was doing,

00:19:55.900 you probably

00:19:56.600 didn't watch

00:19:57.120 any of them

00:19:57.520 too closely.

00:19:58.700 I don't know

00:19:59.260 how you could.

00:19:59.820 Yeah, so the

00:20:06.800 question is

00:20:07.320 who did Trump

00:20:08.000 dox, but I

00:20:08.800 don't think

00:20:09.160 that's going

00:20:09.540 to be the

00:20:09.820 critical question

00:20:10.540 here.

00:20:12.000 So as I

00:20:13.020 understand

00:20:13.700 Sam Harris's

00:20:16.960 point, and

00:20:18.240 I'm going to

00:20:19.040 understand it

00:20:19.700 to support it,

00:20:21.400 there are two

00:20:22.280 examples in

00:20:23.680 which Trump's

00:20:24.660 character is

00:20:25.860 called into

00:20:26.360 question.

00:20:27.480 Trump University

00:20:28.460 and then

00:20:29.800 doxing

00:20:30.420 individuals.

00:20:31.640 Would you

00:20:32.060 say that those

00:20:32.740 two tell you

00:20:33.680 something about

00:20:34.280 Trump as an

00:20:35.180 individual?

00:20:36.500 I think so.

00:20:37.780 I think so.

00:20:39.460 Yeah.

00:20:40.320 Now there,

00:20:41.220 but here's the

00:20:41.860 interesting thing.

00:20:43.100 Why would you

00:20:43.760 pick those out?

00:20:46.260 So here's my

00:20:47.620 observation as

00:20:48.500 a hypnotist.

00:20:49.660 As a trained

00:20:50.280 hypnotist, one

00:20:51.800 of the things

00:20:52.180 you look for

00:20:52.780 to see if

00:20:53.220 somebody is

00:20:53.700 hypnotized is

00:20:55.660 that their

00:20:56.020 reaction is

00:20:56.760 extremely

00:20:57.380 non-standard.

00:20:58.460 not completely

00:21:00.980 crazy, just

00:21:03.100 completely

00:21:03.580 non-standard.

00:21:05.460 When was the

00:21:06.140 last time

00:21:06.620 somebody said

00:21:07.440 that Trump

00:21:08.540 has to go

00:21:09.260 because of

00:21:09.860 those times

00:21:10.700 he doxed

00:21:11.480 people?

00:21:13.180 Have you

00:21:13.560 heard anybody

00:21:14.080 else ever

00:21:14.600 say that?

00:21:16.660 Has anybody

00:21:17.620 ever heard

00:21:18.080 anybody ever

00:21:19.640 say that a

00:21:21.300 big problem

00:21:21.980 with Trump

00:21:22.580 is his

00:21:23.060 doxing of

00:21:23.760 individuals?

00:21:24.120 so there's

00:21:26.920 no way to

00:21:27.360 know what's

00:21:27.800 in the head

00:21:28.260 of other

00:21:28.580 people and

00:21:29.640 so I'm

00:21:30.180 not going to

00:21:30.580 diagnose

00:21:30.980 somebody by

00:21:33.140 reading their

00:21:33.720 mind.

00:21:34.200 That's not a

00:21:34.720 thing.

00:21:35.420 I'm just

00:21:35.980 saying if you

00:21:36.480 were looking

00:21:36.900 for a signal

00:21:37.700 for a

00:21:38.200 cognitive

00:21:38.560 distance,

00:21:39.640 that would

00:21:40.480 be a

00:21:40.800 gigantic

00:21:41.220 glaring

00:21:42.080 signal.

00:21:43.400 Doesn't

00:21:43.880 mean it

00:21:44.200 is.

00:21:45.240 Doesn't

00:21:45.760 mean it

00:21:46.100 is.

00:21:47.060 It just

00:21:47.620 means that

00:21:48.040 that's exactly

00:21:48.640 what a signal

00:21:49.260 would look

00:21:49.700 like.

00:21:50.440 A highly

00:21:51.140 unusual

00:21:51.740 opinion which

00:21:53.800 still has

00:21:54.260 some logical

00:21:55.200 connective

00:21:56.580 tissue.

00:21:57.600 Because when

00:21:58.220 somebody is

00:21:58.760 hypnotized and

00:21:59.920 they come up

00:22:00.440 with, let's

00:22:01.420 say, the

00:22:01.740 cognitive

00:22:02.240 dissonance

00:22:02.880 explanation of

00:22:03.680 why they're

00:22:04.000 doing something,

00:22:05.420 the cognitive

00:22:06.200 dissonance

00:22:06.980 explanation also

00:22:08.680 makes sort

00:22:09.640 of sense.

00:22:11.360 In other

00:22:11.660 words, they

00:22:12.020 can piece it

00:22:13.500 together with

00:22:14.000 some kind of

00:22:14.460 logical trail.

00:22:16.340 But you still

00:22:17.220 look at it and

00:22:17.720 you say, I

00:22:18.600 don't think

00:22:19.040 anybody else

00:22:19.620 in that

00:22:19.880 situation would

00:22:20.600 have said

00:22:20.900 that.

00:22:22.180 Of all the

00:22:23.000 things you

00:22:23.400 could say,

00:22:24.780 that's an

00:22:25.320 unusual one.

00:22:27.260 So without

00:22:27.780 saying, without

00:22:28.920 having an

00:22:29.540 opinion of

00:22:30.040 whether the

00:22:30.560 doxing is

00:22:32.060 good or bad,

00:22:33.340 I think we'd

00:22:33.920 all agree it's

00:22:34.500 bad if we

00:22:35.780 heard the

00:22:36.120 examples.

00:22:37.200 I'm not

00:22:37.600 familiar with

00:22:38.500 the examples,

00:22:39.640 but I'm open

00:22:40.640 to the fact

00:22:41.100 that if a

00:22:42.260 president dox

00:22:42.980 somebody, that's

00:22:43.520 really bad.

00:22:44.700 You shouldn't

00:22:45.040 do that.

00:22:46.620 Right?

00:22:47.860 And so,

00:22:48.420 when you

00:22:51.320 see an

00:22:51.900 unusual

00:22:52.340 opinion, that's

00:22:54.100 a flag.

00:22:55.400 Now, that

00:22:55.820 doesn't mean

00:22:56.540 that he's

00:22:57.120 experiencing

00:22:57.800 cognitive

00:22:58.340 dissonance.

00:22:59.300 Are you

00:22:59.600 clear on

00:23:00.020 that?

00:23:00.680 It doesn't

00:23:01.380 mean he's

00:23:01.740 experiencing

00:23:02.200 cognitive

00:23:02.720 dissonance.

00:23:03.720 It just

00:23:04.140 means that

00:23:04.600 if he is,

00:23:06.220 it would

00:23:06.540 look exactly

00:23:07.180 like that.

00:23:08.940 That's all.

00:23:11.180 Now, the

00:23:12.360 other thing

00:23:13.080 you would

00:23:13.300 look for

00:23:13.620 for cognitive

00:23:14.180 dissonance

00:23:14.700 is a

00:23:15.060 trigger.

00:23:15.360 trigger is

00:23:17.500 if something

00:23:18.040 that you

00:23:18.540 were sure

00:23:18.980 would be

00:23:19.420 true doesn't

00:23:20.720 happen.

00:23:23.280 So, I

00:23:24.040 said from the

00:23:25.440 beginning that

00:23:26.160 Trump would

00:23:26.660 be an

00:23:26.960 expensive

00:23:27.520 president,

00:23:28.920 meaning he'd

00:23:29.540 cause a lot

00:23:30.040 of trouble and

00:23:30.580 he'd break a

00:23:31.080 lot of

00:23:31.340 dishes, but

00:23:32.780 that there

00:23:33.560 might be some

00:23:34.060 big things

00:23:34.640 that the

00:23:34.920 country wants,

00:23:35.660 or at least

00:23:35.940 part of the

00:23:36.300 country wants,

00:23:37.380 that he

00:23:37.820 would get

00:23:38.100 done.

00:23:39.020 And sure

00:23:39.420 enough, he

00:23:40.180 got done,

00:23:41.200 in my opinion,

00:23:42.480 North Korea,

00:23:43.440 defused that,

00:23:44.300 the Abraham

00:23:45.840 Accords, I

00:23:47.480 think he

00:23:47.800 tightened up

00:23:48.240 the border

00:23:48.720 better than,

00:23:49.980 not as good

00:23:50.640 as somebody

00:23:51.020 wanted, but

00:23:51.760 better than

00:23:52.280 it's been

00:23:52.720 done.

00:23:54.000 And so you

00:23:54.820 could come up

00:23:55.320 with a bunch

00:23:55.760 of things

00:23:56.220 they did.

00:23:57.620 Now, in

00:23:58.080 my opinion,

00:24:00.020 my expectation

00:24:01.000 of Trump was

00:24:02.380 pretty close to

00:24:03.100 what happened.

00:24:04.600 So there's no

00:24:05.480 trigger for

00:24:06.080 cognitive dissonance

00:24:07.020 in my case,

00:24:08.240 or at least

00:24:08.740 one that I

00:24:09.380 can't see.

00:24:09.980 Maybe you

00:24:10.380 can see it,

00:24:10.840 but I can't

00:24:11.260 see it,

00:24:11.860 because I

00:24:12.820 got what I

00:24:13.340 expected.

00:24:14.300 But now

00:24:15.320 imagine if

00:24:15.920 you were

00:24:16.320 talking about

00:24:17.120 Trump in

00:24:17.720 the most,

00:24:19.120 let's say,

00:24:20.880 cataclysmic

00:24:21.760 terms before

00:24:22.780 he got

00:24:23.180 elected,

00:24:24.540 and it

00:24:24.900 looked like

00:24:25.740 the end

00:24:26.020 of the

00:24:26.220 world,

00:24:26.660 and you'd

00:24:26.920 really gone

00:24:27.340 out there

00:24:27.720 saying it

00:24:28.140 was going

00:24:28.420 to be a

00:24:28.700 disaster.

00:24:29.880 And then

00:24:30.440 Trump gets

00:24:30.900 an office and

00:24:31.540 he does

00:24:31.820 something closer

00:24:32.560 to a good

00:24:33.160 job.

00:24:34.660 Not at

00:24:35.260 all what it

00:24:35.860 looked like

00:24:36.240 it was going

00:24:36.620 to be if

00:24:37.320 you were a

00:24:37.720 critic.

00:24:38.660 That's a

00:24:39.220 trigger.

00:24:40.800 That's a

00:24:41.380 perfect trigger.

00:24:42.420 That's a

00:24:43.020 textbook,

00:24:43.780 trigger for

00:24:45.380 cognitive

00:24:45.800 dissonance.

00:24:46.840 What you

00:24:47.180 expected is

00:24:47.920 wildly different

00:24:48.980 than what you

00:24:49.660 got.

00:24:50.580 And that

00:24:50.920 wasn't true

00:24:51.420 for Republicans.

00:24:53.120 Republicans

00:24:53.600 expected a

00:24:54.720 set of

00:24:55.320 behaviors from

00:24:56.020 Trump, and

00:24:56.900 they got

00:24:57.280 them.

00:24:57.800 For the

00:24:58.420 most part,

00:24:58.920 they got

00:24:59.220 exactly what

00:24:59.800 they expected.

00:25:00.780 There's no

00:25:01.220 trigger there.

00:25:02.640 It's only the

00:25:03.280 people who

00:25:03.680 were surprised

00:25:04.480 who were

00:25:05.220 triggered.

00:25:06.860 So again,

00:25:07.740 that doesn't

00:25:08.120 mean he's

00:25:08.560 experiencing

00:25:09.060 cognitive

00:25:09.560 dissonance.

00:25:10.140 It just

00:25:10.580 means it

00:25:10.900 would look

00:25:11.260 exactly like

00:25:12.400 that if

00:25:12.740 he were.

00:25:13.640 That's all

00:25:13.980 you can

00:25:14.200 say.

00:25:15.220 But let

00:25:15.540 me take

00:25:15.800 his argument

00:25:16.240 and finish

00:25:18.180 it, because

00:25:18.980 there's

00:25:19.160 something to

00:25:19.620 it.

00:25:20.460 And he

00:25:21.120 goes on to

00:25:21.700 say that

00:25:22.180 Trump's,

00:25:23.900 what he

00:25:24.540 would say

00:25:24.840 is obvious

00:25:25.540 character

00:25:27.100 failings,

00:25:28.800 as evidenced

00:25:30.120 by Trump

00:25:30.920 University,

00:25:31.620 this is

00:25:31.920 Sam's

00:25:32.360 argument,

00:25:33.200 and as

00:25:34.560 evidenced

00:25:34.960 by doxing

00:25:37.480 and other

00:25:38.080 behaviors that

00:25:39.040 look cowardly

00:25:39.820 and or

00:25:40.300 selfish.

00:25:42.240 That those

00:25:43.060 are dangerous

00:25:44.100 characteristics to

00:25:45.200 have in a

00:25:45.620 president, but

00:25:47.140 nothing like

00:25:48.000 the danger

00:25:49.580 of a

00:25:50.020 Hitler.

00:25:51.720 And so,

00:25:53.300 and so,

00:25:55.080 when Sam

00:25:55.700 says he's

00:25:56.660 not too

00:25:57.320 concerned that

00:25:58.160 maybe the

00:25:58.800 Hunter Biden

00:25:59.420 laptop story

00:26:00.380 got suppressed

00:26:01.160 for the

00:26:02.500 purpose of

00:26:03.220 helping Trump

00:26:06.160 lose the

00:26:06.680 election,

00:26:07.480 that maybe

00:26:08.300 that's not

00:26:08.860 that different

00:26:09.600 than the

00:26:11.700 Wiener

00:26:12.080 laptop coming

00:26:13.060 out that

00:26:13.920 may have

00:26:14.340 helped Trump

00:26:15.100 get elected,

00:26:16.160 hypothetically.

00:26:17.760 So, if you

00:26:18.580 said to me,

00:26:19.240 well, those

00:26:19.980 things are

00:26:20.440 about equal,

00:26:22.320 maybe it

00:26:22.960 would be

00:26:23.180 better if

00:26:23.560 neither of

00:26:24.020 them happened,

00:26:24.680 but they're

00:26:25.300 not that

00:26:25.780 different in

00:26:28.000 impact.

00:26:31.060 That's not

00:26:31.540 crazy.

00:26:35.500 That's not

00:26:35.880 crazy.

00:26:36.220 put yourself

00:26:38.720 in the

00:26:38.960 other

00:26:39.100 situation.

00:26:41.000 If you

00:26:42.000 knew that

00:26:43.440 the only

00:26:44.120 thing that

00:26:44.520 kept Hillary

00:26:45.120 Clinton out

00:26:45.820 of office

00:26:46.360 was some

00:26:47.420 sketchy stuff

00:26:48.200 in the

00:26:48.520 news,

00:26:49.860 in fact,

00:26:50.600 maybe that

00:26:51.000 is exactly

00:26:51.660 what happened,

00:26:52.200 we don't

00:26:52.480 know.

00:26:53.040 But if you

00:26:53.600 knew that's

00:26:54.000 the only

00:26:54.300 thing that

00:26:54.660 kept her

00:26:54.980 out of

00:26:55.240 office and

00:26:55.740 you were

00:26:56.000 a Republican,

00:26:57.660 how concerned

00:26:58.620 would you

00:26:59.000 be?

00:26:59.220 you wouldn't

00:27:00.860 be that

00:27:01.320 concerned.

00:27:03.440 Now, I

00:27:04.020 don't want

00:27:04.320 to speak

00:27:04.680 for you,

00:27:05.540 but on

00:27:06.060 average,

00:27:07.020 people are

00:27:07.720 willing to

00:27:08.180 accept a

00:27:08.800 little

00:27:08.980 imperfection on

00:27:09.820 their own

00:27:10.220 team if

00:27:10.720 they get

00:27:11.020 what they

00:27:11.300 want.

00:27:12.040 That's

00:27:12.560 pretty

00:27:12.880 normal.

00:27:14.460 So, I

00:27:15.100 think it's

00:27:15.340 pretty normal

00:27:16.060 for somebody

00:27:16.560 to say,

00:27:16.880 I wouldn't

00:27:17.200 have accepted

00:27:17.680 a little

00:27:18.060 imperfection to

00:27:20.440 get the

00:27:20.740 outcome I

00:27:21.220 wanted,

00:27:21.800 because I

00:27:22.180 think a

00:27:22.860 different

00:27:23.660 president makes

00:27:24.240 a big

00:27:24.460 difference.

00:27:25.880 Now, what

00:27:26.180 about the

00:27:26.760 Sam Harris

00:27:28.700 also famously

00:27:29.700 said that he

00:27:31.260 had, I

00:27:32.040 forget the

00:27:32.420 exact words,

00:27:33.120 but in

00:27:33.760 some ways

00:27:34.420 more respect

00:27:35.400 for Osama

00:27:36.240 Bin Laden

00:27:36.880 than for

00:27:38.180 Trump.

00:27:39.500 But this

00:27:40.220 has to be

00:27:42.020 understood in

00:27:43.620 terms of an

00:27:44.260 intellectual

00:27:44.800 argument.

00:27:46.480 As soon as

00:27:47.120 you put it

00:27:47.500 into an

00:27:47.840 emotional

00:27:48.220 argument,

00:27:48.900 it makes

00:27:49.640 your head

00:27:49.940 explode.

00:27:50.840 No,

00:27:51.360 Bin Laden's

00:27:51.880 a monster.

00:27:53.360 Trump's just

00:27:54.060 a politician.

00:27:54.860 No.

00:27:55.920 But that's

00:27:56.440 not what he

00:27:56.780 was talking

00:27:57.100 about.

00:27:57.560 He's not

00:27:57.920 talking about

00:27:58.640 Bin Laden

00:27:59.320 directly

00:28:00.660 murdering

00:28:01.280 people versus

00:28:02.020 Trump having

00:28:03.360 a policy he

00:28:04.040 doesn't like.

00:28:05.420 The point

00:28:06.140 was that

00:28:06.620 Bin Laden

00:28:07.120 was operating

00:28:07.860 on principle.

00:28:09.620 It just

00:28:10.040 happened to

00:28:10.400 be a

00:28:10.640 principle that

00:28:11.180 we hate.

00:28:13.600 But he

00:28:14.320 was sort

00:28:15.040 of internally

00:28:15.560 consistent with

00:28:16.540 his Islamic

00:28:17.500 beliefs, at

00:28:19.020 least the

00:28:19.360 extremist

00:28:19.920 Islamic

00:28:20.520 beliefs.

00:28:21.920 Whereas Sam's

00:28:23.100 point is that

00:28:23.860 Trump is

00:28:25.180 not moored

00:28:26.640 to any

00:28:27.180 moral or

00:28:28.580 ethical

00:28:29.040 foundation,

00:28:31.100 therefore he's

00:28:31.820 a little more

00:28:32.240 unpredictable and

00:28:33.440 likely to

00:28:34.180 operate for his

00:28:35.000 own best

00:28:35.460 interest in

00:28:36.540 any given

00:28:37.000 situation.

00:28:38.620 So do you

00:28:39.300 think that it's

00:28:39.800 dangerous to

00:28:40.440 have somebody

00:28:40.880 you can't

00:28:41.500 predict as

00:28:42.640 president?

00:28:43.680 Because he's

00:28:44.080 going to sort

00:28:44.720 of go where

00:28:45.420 the self-interest

00:28:47.460 goes.

00:28:49.720 That's not a

00:28:50.680 terrible argument.

00:28:51.200 Now, I

00:28:53.600 have, you

00:28:54.180 know, I

00:28:54.400 can counter

00:28:54.840 the argument,

00:28:55.880 but I'm not

00:28:57.100 going to do

00:28:57.440 that in this

00:28:58.540 conversation.

00:29:00.040 Because this

00:29:00.960 conversation is

00:29:01.800 to see if I

00:29:02.660 can explain his

00:29:03.860 argument in a

00:29:07.580 way that makes

00:29:09.320 it make sense

00:29:09.980 without making

00:29:11.840 it sound crazy.

00:29:13.360 And I think

00:29:14.060 that his

00:29:14.440 argument is not

00:29:15.480 crazy if you

00:29:16.980 accept the

00:29:17.560 following

00:29:17.980 clarifications,

00:29:19.100 which he has

00:29:20.500 provided.

00:29:23.140 Clarification

00:29:23.700 number one,

00:29:24.780 he does not

00:29:25.400 believe that

00:29:26.280 Trump is

00:29:26.740 dangerous like

00:29:27.880 Hitler would

00:29:28.740 be.

00:29:29.740 He believes

00:29:30.520 he's unpredictable

00:29:31.340 because he's

00:29:32.380 not moored to

00:29:33.360 a moral,

00:29:34.180 ethical foundation.

00:29:37.160 I accept

00:29:37.960 that.

00:29:39.260 I accept

00:29:39.700 that.

00:29:40.280 If I were

00:29:40.960 arguing against

00:29:41.800 it, which I'm

00:29:42.400 not going to

00:29:42.780 do today, I

00:29:44.120 would say

00:29:44.420 something about

00:29:45.140 the presidency

00:29:46.320 has more

00:29:47.140 transparency than

00:29:48.260 most things.

00:29:49.100 And he's

00:29:49.880 offered to

00:29:50.400 give us

00:29:50.800 those services

00:29:52.220 on our

00:29:52.760 behalf.

00:29:53.580 And we

00:29:53.940 can watch

00:29:54.360 it happen

00:29:54.760 while it's

00:29:55.220 happening.

00:29:57.020 But there's

00:29:57.680 not that much

00:29:58.340 transparency, so

00:29:59.640 there's always

00:30:00.040 an issue.

00:30:01.920 And so if I

00:30:02.740 take Sam's

00:30:03.660 argument, I'd

00:30:04.200 say there's

00:30:04.600 not that much

00:30:05.240 transparency,

00:30:06.620 there's not

00:30:07.040 enough, because

00:30:07.780 we still wonder

00:30:08.340 what happens

00:30:08.920 behind closed

00:30:10.060 doors and

00:30:10.500 stuff.

00:30:12.960 But it's

00:30:14.140 not a bad

00:30:14.540 argument.

00:30:15.360 So if you

00:30:15.880 allow that the

00:30:16.720 bin Laden

00:30:17.300 argument was

00:30:18.000 just an

00:30:18.800 intellectual

00:30:19.340 exercise, which

00:30:20.360 is what it

00:30:20.760 was, that's

00:30:22.480 fine.

00:30:23.060 It's just an

00:30:23.560 intellectual

00:30:23.940 exercise.

00:30:25.260 If you

00:30:25.800 allow that

00:30:26.300 the Hitler

00:30:27.900 stuff was

00:30:28.460 just hyperbole

00:30:29.320 and also

00:30:30.660 has given

00:30:31.260 way to

00:30:32.220 experience,

00:30:32.980 we've seen

00:30:33.280 what Trump

00:30:33.720 can and

00:30:34.140 cannot do

00:30:34.600 in office,

00:30:36.080 I don't

00:30:36.780 think Sam's

00:30:37.480 opinion is

00:30:38.300 as crazy

00:30:39.100 as you

00:30:40.340 do.

00:30:42.520 Let me

00:30:43.100 ask you

00:30:43.440 this.

00:30:43.680 if I

00:30:44.660 said there

00:30:45.120 was some

00:30:45.460 other

00:30:45.760 president

00:30:46.180 coming into

00:30:46.920 office, let's

00:30:48.300 say it was

00:30:48.760 a Democrat,

00:30:50.220 and you

00:30:50.600 felt that

00:30:51.120 that Democrat's

00:30:52.120 history suggested

00:30:54.780 that the

00:30:55.300 Democrat would

00:30:55.960 do whatever

00:30:57.080 it took,

00:30:58.020 that there

00:30:58.900 was no

00:30:59.360 moral

00:30:59.840 underpinnings,

00:31:00.940 would you be

00:31:01.580 uncomfortable

00:31:02.060 with that

00:31:02.520 president?

00:31:03.880 Probably.

00:31:05.440 Probably.

00:31:06.740 Right?

00:31:08.080 Yeah.

00:31:08.640 Were you

00:31:09.020 uncomfortable

00:31:09.480 with LBJ?

00:31:10.700 Were you

00:31:10.940 uncomfortable

00:31:11.340 with, I'm

00:31:12.780 not sure

00:31:13.080 about Bill

00:31:13.480 Clinton, I'm

00:31:14.220 not going

00:31:14.460 to go that

00:31:14.860 far.

00:31:16.140 I have a

00:31:16.640 different opinion

00:31:17.120 about Hillary

00:31:17.640 than I do

00:31:18.120 about Bill.

00:31:18.780 I think Bill

00:31:19.300 Clinton was a

00:31:20.040 solid president,

00:31:20.960 that's my

00:31:21.340 opinion.

00:31:22.640 I think he

00:31:23.180 was a solid

00:31:23.700 president.

00:31:27.060 And I'm

00:31:28.120 not looking for

00:31:28.680 an argument

00:31:29.040 on that.

00:31:30.440 You know,

00:31:30.680 people can

00:31:31.100 disagree on

00:31:31.680 stuff like

00:31:32.080 that.

00:31:33.000 All right,

00:31:34.040 so how'd

00:31:34.620 I do?

00:31:36.240 How'd I

00:31:36.800 do?

00:31:37.640 Did I,

00:31:38.160 you don't

00:31:38.380 have to agree

00:31:39.000 with my

00:31:39.420 argument,

00:31:40.180 but do you

00:31:40.900 think that

00:31:41.460 I've made

00:31:41.960 Sam Harris's

00:31:42.760 point look

00:31:43.400 reasonable?

00:31:45.100 Does it

00:31:45.740 look reasonable?

00:31:47.960 Once you

00:31:48.660 take away

00:31:49.040 the hyperbole,

00:31:50.640 there's a

00:31:51.380 solid core

00:31:52.000 there.

00:31:54.760 I guess

00:31:55.520 some yeses,

00:31:56.580 mostly noes.

00:31:57.760 You know,

00:31:57.980 we're deep

00:31:59.100 into team

00:31:59.980 sport territory

00:32:01.140 here,

00:32:01.940 and when you

00:32:02.520 get this

00:32:02.920 deeply into

00:32:03.460 team sport,

00:32:04.420 I know you

00:32:05.040 don't want to

00:32:05.960 give the

00:32:06.460 other team

00:32:06.860 a point.

00:32:07.560 I get

00:32:07.880 that.

00:32:08.160 But,

00:32:10.540 let me

00:32:10.980 ask you

00:32:11.260 this.

00:32:12.320 Did I

00:32:12.760 at least

00:32:13.200 pass the

00:32:13.820 test that

00:32:14.560 I could

00:32:15.100 express the

00:32:16.920 argument in

00:32:18.760 a full-throated

00:32:19.500 way?

00:32:20.460 Would you

00:32:20.820 accept that?

00:32:21.920 Did I

00:32:22.520 express the

00:32:23.100 argument in

00:32:23.600 a full-throated

00:32:24.400 way?

00:32:26.160 I think I

00:32:26.960 did.

00:32:27.800 I think I

00:32:28.300 did.

00:32:28.900 Now,

00:32:29.160 that would

00:32:29.460 suggest that

00:32:31.420 I don't have

00:32:31.980 cognitive dissonance.

00:32:34.540 And again,

00:32:35.140 this is a

00:32:36.080 rule of thumb.

00:32:36.720 It's not

00:32:37.080 like some

00:32:37.680 scientific

00:32:38.240 guarantee.

00:32:39.900 But the

00:32:40.440 strong indication

00:32:41.460 is that I

00:32:42.200 can tell

00:32:42.580 his argument

00:32:43.180 and I

00:32:45.020 don't have

00:32:45.440 an unusual

00:32:46.160 opinion about

00:32:47.100 things.

00:32:49.500 All right?

00:32:50.980 So,

00:32:51.900 okay,

00:32:52.300 I feel good

00:32:52.740 about that.

00:32:57.920 But here's

00:32:58.760 my bottom

00:32:59.460 line.

00:32:59.780 I think that

00:33:00.260 the difference

00:33:00.760 between Sam's

00:33:01.660 opinion and

00:33:02.120 mine comes

00:33:02.740 down to

00:33:03.140 one thing.

00:33:03.720 wildly

00:33:05.840 different

00:33:06.260 opinions about

00:33:07.180 what is

00:33:07.840 dangerous.

00:33:10.100 Wildly

00:33:10.560 different

00:33:10.800 opinions about

00:33:11.420 what's

00:33:11.660 important.

00:33:12.760 For example,

00:33:14.160 I would say

00:33:15.400 that the

00:33:15.920 50 intelligence

00:33:17.180 agents lying

00:33:18.840 about Hunter's

00:33:19.760 laptop destroys

00:33:21.760 the credibility

00:33:22.500 of our most

00:33:23.440 important systems

00:33:24.460 and also

00:33:25.540 reveals that

00:33:26.300 they're corrupt.

00:33:27.860 And I would

00:33:28.300 put that at

00:33:28.980 a, in

00:33:29.760 terms of a

00:33:30.420 scale of

00:33:31.100 one to ten,

00:33:32.280 that's like a

00:33:33.160 nine.

00:33:33.720 in terms of

00:33:34.920 how bad

00:33:35.320 that is.

00:33:36.300 That's like a

00:33:36.760 nine.

00:33:37.880 How bad is

00:33:38.780 a president

00:33:39.340 doxing an

00:33:41.220 individual?

00:33:42.760 Well, on a

00:33:43.540 moral, ethical,

00:33:45.220 and preference

00:33:46.400 level, it's a

00:33:47.660 ten in badness.

00:33:49.760 But in terms of

00:33:50.660 how it affects

00:33:51.260 the world,

00:33:53.280 it's a one.

00:33:55.060 It's a one.

00:33:56.640 It affects

00:33:57.320 those people,

00:33:58.480 and I don't

00:33:59.120 like that at

00:33:59.660 all.

00:34:00.840 You know,

00:34:01.080 any doxing

00:34:01.940 by a president,

00:34:02.500 I'm completely

00:34:03.920 against.

00:34:05.640 But you have

00:34:06.220 to put it in

00:34:06.640 perspective.

00:34:07.820 I would say

00:34:08.300 that the

00:34:08.900 50 intel

00:34:10.040 people,

00:34:10.840 ex-intel

00:34:11.380 professionals

00:34:12.140 lying is a

00:34:13.540 big frickin'

00:34:14.420 deal.

00:34:15.520 That's a

00:34:15.920 nine.

00:34:17.280 Doxing,

00:34:17.920 it's a one,

00:34:19.120 except that the

00:34:19.900 individuals involved,

00:34:21.040 of course,

00:34:21.500 it's a ten to

00:34:22.100 them.

00:34:23.380 So I don't

00:34:24.500 know that Sam

00:34:25.120 and I differ

00:34:25.920 on the logic

00:34:26.740 of anything.

00:34:28.380 I don't know

00:34:29.360 that we have

00:34:29.860 different data,

00:34:31.460 at least that

00:34:32.080 hasn't been

00:34:32.680 obvious to me,

00:34:33.740 but we're

00:34:34.340 definitely valuing

00:34:35.280 things differently.

00:34:36.080 I'll give you

00:34:36.420 another one.

00:34:37.540 I imagine that

00:34:38.860 January 6th would

00:34:40.300 be higher in,

00:34:41.280 well, since he

00:34:42.080 hasn't talked

00:34:42.500 about it, I

00:34:42.960 won't put this

00:34:43.460 in his head.

00:34:44.340 Let's say me

00:34:45.160 compared to a

00:34:45.840 Democrat.

00:34:46.900 Typical Democrat

00:34:47.760 would say,

00:34:49.120 January 6th was

00:34:49.980 just horrible,

00:34:50.960 like it was like

00:34:51.540 nearly the end

00:34:53.060 of the Republic.

00:34:54.740 Do you know

00:34:55.100 what I say

00:34:55.480 about January 6th?

00:34:57.920 Again, not

00:34:59.460 counting the

00:35:00.020 violence part,

00:35:01.260 which is if you

00:35:02.100 were a recipient

00:35:02.880 of the violence

00:35:03.840 or you were

00:35:05.120 jailed because

00:35:05.840 of it,

00:35:06.480 that problem

00:35:07.520 is a ten

00:35:08.080 and a ten

00:35:08.560 for you,

00:35:09.940 no question

00:35:10.540 about it.

00:35:11.740 But what

00:35:12.140 effect did it

00:35:12.720 have on the

00:35:13.520 world or the

00:35:14.200 country?

00:35:15.060 In my opinion,

00:35:17.800 stronger.

00:35:21.140 There's,

00:35:21.740 oh, well,

00:35:22.360 okay, I just

00:35:22.940 outed myself

00:35:23.540 there, didn't

00:35:23.960 I?

00:35:24.920 I guess that

00:35:25.400 was a non-standard

00:35:26.460 opinion, wasn't

00:35:27.100 it?

00:35:28.200 So then I have

00:35:29.280 to ask myself,

00:35:30.000 was that

00:35:30.320 cognitive dissonance?

00:35:32.320 Here's why I

00:35:33.040 say stronger.

00:35:33.660 I'll give you

00:35:34.000 my argument.

00:35:35.020 It doesn't

00:35:35.400 mean I'm not

00:35:35.860 experiencing

00:35:36.380 cognitive dissonance.

00:35:38.240 Now, keep in

00:35:38.920 mind that I've

00:35:39.500 condemned Trump's

00:35:41.420 actions on

00:35:42.160 January 6th.

00:35:43.200 So in theory,

00:35:44.620 that should

00:35:45.260 protect me,

00:35:46.800 right?

00:35:47.340 Because I'm

00:35:47.760 on record.

00:35:48.800 I said Biden

00:35:49.520 won from day

00:35:50.300 one.

00:35:51.220 You know,

00:35:51.520 that's not

00:35:51.940 going to change.

00:35:52.500 I've never

00:35:52.960 gone back

00:35:53.480 on that.

00:35:54.420 The system

00:35:54.900 elected Biden,

00:35:56.560 so even if

00:35:57.420 there were,

00:35:57.980 you know,

00:35:58.300 hypothetically

00:35:58.860 any imperfections,

00:36:00.360 I still go

00:36:01.100 with the

00:36:01.340 system.

00:36:02.200 We've got to

00:36:02.680 fix the

00:36:03.080 system,

00:36:03.780 but you've

00:36:04.360 got to go

00:36:04.700 with the

00:36:04.980 system while

00:36:05.560 you're fixing

00:36:05.980 it.

00:36:06.240 That's just

00:36:06.700 my opinion.

00:36:08.440 So,

00:36:10.900 my opinion

00:36:13.660 on January

00:36:14.300 6th is that

00:36:15.060 it made

00:36:15.280 America stronger.

00:36:16.260 would anybody

00:36:18.740 agree with

00:36:19.220 that before

00:36:19.580 you hear my

00:36:20.000 argument?

00:36:21.320 Before I

00:36:21.780 give you the

00:36:22.140 argument,

00:36:22.720 January 6th,

00:36:23.620 the protests,

00:36:24.500 even with the

00:36:25.100 violence,

00:36:26.160 which I

00:36:26.640 condemn totally,

00:36:28.440 made America

00:36:29.180 stronger.

00:36:31.540 Yeah,

00:36:31.800 I think

00:36:32.040 reasonable people

00:36:32.760 can disagree

00:36:33.380 on this one.

00:36:35.400 Here's my

00:36:36.100 argument.

00:36:37.600 It's sort of

00:36:38.380 the Jordan

00:36:38.840 Peterson argument

00:36:39.800 about individuals,

00:36:40.820 that you

00:36:42.440 should be

00:36:43.020 dangerous,

00:36:44.440 but learn to

00:36:45.080 control it.

00:36:47.380 Your nature

00:36:48.260 should be as

00:36:48.800 dangerous as

00:36:49.400 possible.

00:36:50.040 It keeps

00:36:50.360 society

00:36:50.920 operating.

00:36:53.960 Here's what

00:36:54.620 I want.

00:36:55.360 I want my

00:36:56.060 government,

00:36:56.720 no matter who

00:36:57.280 it is,

00:36:58.180 be they

00:36:59.060 Democrat or

00:36:59.900 be they

00:37:00.320 Republican or

00:37:01.240 anything else,

00:37:02.040 I want my

00:37:02.720 government to

00:37:03.340 know that if

00:37:05.200 I've got

00:37:05.620 questions and

00:37:07.520 my fellow

00:37:08.480 citizens have

00:37:09.200 questions,

00:37:09.820 we're going to

00:37:10.420 show up.

00:37:12.060 We're going

00:37:12.460 to show up.

00:37:13.680 Well, not me,

00:37:14.340 I like to have

00:37:15.060 bathrooms I

00:37:17.080 don't have to

00:37:17.500 wait for,

00:37:17.920 so I won't

00:37:18.380 be there.

00:37:20.780 But people

00:37:21.740 who like to

00:37:22.260 do that kind

00:37:22.760 of stuff,

00:37:23.140 they'll be

00:37:23.400 there.

00:37:24.640 I'll try to

00:37:25.340 do something

00:37:26.160 useful at

00:37:26.840 home where

00:37:28.000 I'm more

00:37:28.520 comfortable.

00:37:30.820 But the

00:37:32.140 rest of you,

00:37:32.940 I love the

00:37:33.620 fact that you

00:37:34.040 show up.

00:37:35.480 So my

00:37:36.380 take on,

00:37:38.860 and I'm

00:37:39.400 going to say

00:37:39.700 the same

00:37:40.020 thing with

00:37:40.400 Black Lives

00:37:41.240 Matter.

00:37:42.620 So here I'm

00:37:43.560 going to

00:37:43.740 show at

00:37:44.360 least maybe

00:37:44.940 a possibility

00:37:45.700 that I'm

00:37:46.120 not experiencing

00:37:47.080 cognitive

00:37:47.660 dissonance.

00:37:48.800 Black Lives

00:37:49.280 Matter created

00:37:49.940 some bad

00:37:51.400 stuff,

00:37:52.800 created lots

00:37:53.800 of destruction

00:37:54.440 and death.

00:37:55.960 I don't

00:37:56.780 mind living

00:37:57.340 in a country

00:37:57.920 where people

00:37:58.480 are going to

00:37:58.820 hit the

00:37:59.200 streets to

00:38:00.220 fight for

00:38:01.060 fairness.

00:38:03.420 I don't

00:38:04.120 hate that.

00:38:05.220 I hate all

00:38:05.960 the violence,

00:38:06.560 I hate the

00:38:06.880 disruption,

00:38:07.820 I hate that

00:38:08.320 they may be

00:38:08.940 confused,

00:38:09.660 I hate that

00:38:10.040 they may

00:38:10.340 be semi-hypnotized,

00:38:12.520 I hate that

00:38:12.980 the news is

00:38:14.520 brainwashing

00:38:15.820 people.

00:38:17.020 I don't know

00:38:17.600 that the

00:38:18.200 protests were

00:38:18.940 useful.

00:38:19.860 So I'm not

00:38:20.300 saying they

00:38:20.640 were useful.

00:38:22.100 So I'm going

00:38:23.140 to make a

00:38:23.480 real strong

00:38:23.980 distinction.

00:38:25.220 I don't think

00:38:26.140 necessarily that

00:38:26.940 January 6th was

00:38:27.740 useful,

00:38:28.780 and I don't

00:38:29.760 think that the

00:38:30.440 BLM protests

00:38:31.480 were useful in

00:38:32.660 the end.

00:38:33.820 But do you

00:38:34.580 want to live in

00:38:35.140 a country that

00:38:35.740 won't do that?

00:38:36.400 I don't.

00:38:38.640 I want to

00:38:39.120 live in a

00:38:39.440 country where

00:38:40.000 if the

00:38:40.480 Republicans think

00:38:41.640 something went

00:38:42.180 wrong, they're

00:38:43.720 in the streets.

00:38:45.080 And I want to

00:38:45.600 live in a

00:38:45.940 country, you

00:38:46.820 might not like

00:38:47.420 this, where if

00:38:48.620 the Democrats

00:38:49.120 think something

00:38:49.880 is just terribly

00:38:50.780 wrong, they're

00:38:51.260 going to hit

00:38:51.480 the streets.

00:38:53.620 Right?

00:38:54.700 So give me

00:38:55.880 the country that

00:38:56.520 protests.

00:38:57.740 Thank you very

00:38:58.380 much.

00:38:59.420 And let them

00:39:00.160 go wild, let

00:39:01.480 them make their

00:39:02.000 case, and let

00:39:03.260 them see if they

00:39:04.480 can prevail.

00:39:06.660 Because you

00:39:07.220 have seen

00:39:07.520 cases where

00:39:08.100 protests turn

00:39:08.880 into something

00:39:09.380 good, let's

00:39:10.000 say civil

00:39:10.420 rights.

00:39:11.300 You've seen

00:39:11.760 them where

00:39:12.040 they don't

00:39:12.400 turn into

00:39:12.800 anything good,

00:39:13.520 let's say

00:39:13.900 Antifa.

00:39:15.300 But I still

00:39:16.600 want to live

00:39:17.020 in this

00:39:17.300 country.

00:39:18.600 I still want

00:39:19.080 to live where

00:39:20.120 people will

00:39:20.580 take to the

00:39:21.000 streets.

00:39:23.060 All right.

00:39:24.400 So I just

00:39:25.480 value things

00:39:26.260 completely different

00:39:27.120 than other

00:39:27.880 people, and

00:39:28.860 therefore we

00:39:30.220 can get to

00:39:30.680 different

00:39:31.220 conclusions.

00:39:31.980 All right.

00:39:34.200 While I'm

00:39:34.860 defending people

00:39:35.640 that you

00:39:36.740 might not

00:39:37.120 want me to

00:39:37.600 defend, let

00:39:38.200 me throw

00:39:38.500 another one

00:39:38.980 in the mix.

00:39:40.340 Jake Tapper

00:39:40.960 is getting a

00:39:41.480 bunch of

00:39:41.740 heat today

00:39:42.320 because he

00:39:43.380 retweeted

00:39:44.120 Ivanka Trump's

00:39:45.340 tweet promoting

00:39:47.600 Jared's new

00:39:48.600 book.

00:39:50.060 And people

00:39:50.440 are saying,

00:39:51.060 Jake Tapper,

00:39:52.020 how can you

00:39:53.200 retweet Jared?

00:39:54.700 Are you part

00:39:55.360 of the, you

00:39:56.660 know, the

00:39:56.960 elite?

00:39:58.100 What's going

00:39:58.780 on here?

00:39:59.360 Are you

00:39:59.640 selling us

00:40:00.140 out?

00:40:00.720 Say the

00:40:01.320 CNN

00:40:01.720 observers, to

00:40:04.240 which I

00:40:04.540 would like

00:40:04.800 to add

00:40:05.120 the following

00:40:05.580 context.

00:40:07.740 I also

00:40:08.700 plugged Jake

00:40:09.700 Tapper's

00:40:10.180 book when

00:40:11.240 it came

00:40:11.560 out.

00:40:12.840 It's an

00:40:13.500 author thing.

00:40:14.740 That's all

00:40:15.160 it is.

00:40:16.800 As soon as

00:40:17.700 you think

00:40:18.120 this is more

00:40:19.220 than one

00:40:19.860 author being,

00:40:22.280 let's say,

00:40:22.720 professionally

00:40:23.300 courteous and

00:40:24.260 maybe thinks

00:40:24.920 that the

00:40:25.200 audience would

00:40:25.660 be interested

00:40:26.120 in the

00:40:26.400 book, it's

00:40:27.760 not an

00:40:28.120 endorsement

00:40:28.660 of the

00:40:28.860 person.

00:40:29.200 It's not

00:40:30.820 an endorsement

00:40:31.520 of all that

00:40:32.060 person has

00:40:32.560 done.

00:40:33.580 It's more

00:40:34.000 like, I

00:40:34.880 wrote a

00:40:35.240 book, you

00:40:35.700 wrote a

00:40:36.040 book, I'll

00:40:36.680 bet your

00:40:36.940 book is

00:40:37.280 interesting, maybe

00:40:38.080 other people

00:40:38.520 would like it

00:40:38.960 too.

00:40:39.720 That's it.

00:40:42.040 All right,

00:40:42.780 authors promote

00:40:43.840 other people's

00:40:44.640 books, it

00:40:46.520 doesn't mean

00:40:47.040 anything.

00:40:49.320 Scott is

00:40:50.000 waffling again.

00:40:51.360 What the

00:40:51.720 fuck am I

00:40:52.220 waffling about?

00:40:53.960 Somebody says

00:40:54.720 I'm waffling.

00:40:55.280 I don't

00:40:55.960 think I've

00:40:56.360 waffled less

00:40:57.200 on any

00:40:57.920 live stream

00:40:58.960 than today.

00:41:00.320 So you

00:41:01.060 could have

00:41:01.320 your own

00:41:01.640 opinions about

00:41:02.420 Jake Tepper's

00:41:03.560 politics and

00:41:04.480 performance,

00:41:05.260 et cetera, but

00:41:06.380 let the guy

00:41:08.360 promote a

00:41:08.920 book from

00:41:10.260 anybody, right?

00:41:11.760 Just let him

00:41:12.280 promote a

00:41:12.700 book, because

00:41:13.740 and I like

00:41:16.320 to say this

00:41:16.800 every few

00:41:18.340 months at

00:41:18.860 least, I

00:41:21.340 insist on

00:41:22.740 the right of

00:41:23.260 association.

00:41:25.280 I insist, as

00:41:28.280 a citizen of

00:41:29.020 the United

00:41:29.300 States, on

00:41:30.520 the right of

00:41:31.280 free association.

00:41:32.900 If I want to

00:41:33.740 talk to the

00:41:34.280 worst person in

00:41:35.060 the world and

00:41:35.520 get a selfie

00:41:36.140 with that

00:41:36.540 person, I'm

00:41:37.500 going to do

00:41:37.900 it.

00:41:39.060 And I don't

00:41:39.700 care what your

00:41:40.140 opinion is.

00:41:41.480 And I'm

00:41:41.840 never going to

00:41:42.340 care what your

00:41:42.780 opinion is.

00:41:43.720 If I want to

00:41:45.200 tweet somebody's

00:41:46.040 book and you

00:41:46.720 don't like their

00:41:47.280 politics, but I

00:41:48.820 think the book

00:41:49.320 is interesting, I'm

00:41:51.060 going to tweet

00:41:51.440 that book.

00:41:53.100 There's nothing

00:41:53.780 you're going to

00:41:54.140 do to talk me

00:41:54.780 out of that

00:41:55.100 behavior.

00:41:56.080 So freedom of

00:41:57.220 association, there

00:41:58.820 is no wiggle

00:42:00.500 room.

00:42:01.700 That one's an

00:42:02.220 absolute and

00:42:03.220 can't ever

00:42:03.620 change.

00:42:05.680 All right.

00:42:08.380 Bill Maher

00:42:09.160 continues to be

00:42:10.040 interesting

00:42:10.440 politically.

00:42:12.040 And he noted

00:42:12.820 on his show

00:42:13.360 that 85% of

00:42:14.400 the people

00:42:14.680 Trump endorsed

00:42:15.600 for the

00:42:16.060 primaries won.

00:42:18.620 85%.

00:42:19.140 Trump, and he

00:42:21.240 said, quote,

00:42:22.200 say what you

00:42:22.660 want about

00:42:23.020 Mr.

00:42:23.600 Evil, meaning

00:42:25.040 Trump, but

00:42:26.060 boy, what a

00:42:26.640 politician.

00:42:27.420 I mean, that's

00:42:28.040 impressive in an

00:42:29.520 evil way, but

00:42:30.500 still impressive.

00:42:32.100 So, do you

00:42:33.920 remember when

00:42:34.620 Trump first

00:42:35.420 announced, do

00:42:37.740 you remember

00:42:38.080 what I seem to

00:42:39.560 be completely

00:42:40.220 alone in the

00:42:40.980 United States

00:42:41.740 saying?

00:42:42.240 And I wrote a

00:42:44.800 blog post called

00:42:45.780 Clown Genius.

00:42:48.600 He was being

00:42:49.040 called a clown,

00:42:50.120 and I said,

00:42:50.740 you better watch

00:42:51.720 out for the

00:42:52.180 clown, because

00:42:53.480 this clown is a

00:42:54.640 genius, persuasion

00:42:56.020 wise.

00:42:57.280 And then the

00:42:58.200 clown became the

00:42:59.380 president of the

00:43:00.020 United States.

00:43:01.740 And then, even

00:43:02.580 out of office, he

00:43:05.340 influenced, you

00:43:06.980 know, 85% of the

00:43:08.680 primaries.

00:43:11.280 Now, can we

00:43:12.960 give me some

00:43:13.680 credit for

00:43:15.200 calling on day

00:43:16.160 one, the first

00:43:17.360 one, at least

00:43:18.860 maybe not the

00:43:19.780 first one, but

00:43:20.420 among the first

00:43:21.600 to say there's

00:43:22.940 something going

00:43:23.720 on with this

00:43:24.480 guy, right?

00:43:26.060 And I said that

00:43:27.040 he would be the

00:43:27.460 most persuasive

00:43:28.220 person you've ever

00:43:28.940 seen.

00:43:29.860 I believe that

00:43:30.880 that's now the

00:43:31.560 case.

00:43:32.760 I believe that

00:43:33.460 even his biggest

00:43:34.200 critics would say,

00:43:35.140 okay, I don't

00:43:35.620 like what he's

00:43:36.240 saying, but

00:43:37.460 there's no

00:43:37.940 question about

00:43:38.600 his persuasion.

00:43:40.240 He's got the

00:43:40.860 entire package.

00:43:42.200 He does.

00:43:42.800 The whole package.

00:43:48.120 BJ Novak, I

00:43:49.440 guess, was on

00:43:50.120 Bill Maher's

00:43:50.880 podcast, and

00:43:51.620 he's a writer

00:43:53.320 and humorist,

00:43:54.280 stand-up guy.

00:43:55.700 He wrote for

00:43:56.280 The Office, and

00:43:56.920 he was an actor

00:43:57.440 on that.

00:43:58.100 BJ Novak.

00:44:01.020 If your

00:44:01.620 initials are

00:44:02.140 BJ, you've

00:44:03.720 got to learn

00:44:04.120 to tell a

00:44:04.580 joke.

00:44:05.820 You've got to

00:44:06.360 have a sense

00:44:06.760 of humor.

00:44:08.600 BJ believes

00:44:09.540 what I

00:44:09.780 believe, which

00:44:10.340 is that

00:44:10.900 wokeness is

00:44:11.960 really people

00:44:12.740 pretending to

00:44:13.720 be offended on

00:44:14.820 behalf of the

00:44:15.660 people who

00:44:16.680 don't exist.

00:44:18.760 Have you ever

00:44:19.260 met anybody who

00:44:20.160 was offended

00:44:20.720 by words?

00:44:24.040 I never

00:44:24.780 have.

00:44:25.800 If you talk to

00:44:26.660 anybody individually,

00:44:28.020 they'll say,

00:44:28.460 oh, no, it doesn't

00:44:29.020 bother me.

00:44:29.800 It's just

00:44:30.180 something some

00:44:31.160 jerk said.

00:44:32.380 Why would I care

00:44:33.100 about what some

00:44:33.620 jerk said?

00:44:34.160 But I'm

00:44:35.380 pretty sure

00:44:36.120 other people

00:44:37.720 are going to

00:44:38.100 be offended.

00:44:39.800 I'm pretty

00:44:40.420 sure other

00:44:40.940 people are

00:44:41.380 going to be

00:44:41.680 offended.

00:44:42.880 Now, let

00:44:45.040 me say

00:44:45.340 again, I'm

00:44:47.260 a fan of

00:44:48.020 wokeness.

00:44:49.540 I know, I

00:44:50.320 know it sounds

00:44:50.720 weird, because

00:44:51.620 I'm one of the

00:44:52.100 biggest critics of

00:44:53.020 wokeness, but

00:44:53.900 also a fan.

00:44:55.300 And here's how

00:44:55.900 that's consistent.

00:44:58.020 The Dilbert

00:44:58.700 comic, for

00:45:00.100 which, you

00:45:01.440 know, I'm

00:45:02.040 notorious, is

00:45:04.320 about good

00:45:05.020 ideas that are

00:45:05.680 taken too

00:45:06.180 far.

00:45:07.060 That's what it's

00:45:07.680 about.

00:45:08.600 Because management

00:45:09.380 is a good idea.

00:45:10.700 You can't have an

00:45:11.380 unmanaged company.

00:45:13.080 But if you take

00:45:13.700 it too far, you're

00:45:14.340 micromanaging.

00:45:15.820 If you take it

00:45:16.440 too far, you're

00:45:17.020 doing whatever the

00:45:17.660 latest trend is

00:45:18.640 before knowing

00:45:19.480 it's a good idea.

00:45:20.600 So everything I

00:45:21.700 talk about is a

00:45:23.040 basic good idea

00:45:23.980 that's just been

00:45:24.920 taken to some

00:45:25.640 ridiculous point.

00:45:27.280 So what do I

00:45:28.100 think about calling

00:45:29.680 people by the

00:45:30.560 name, by the

00:45:35.580 name that they

00:45:36.280 would like to

00:45:36.840 be called?

00:45:37.980 I call that good

00:45:38.780 manners.

00:45:40.160 That's not even

00:45:40.700 a conversation.

00:45:42.200 Yeah, whatever

00:45:42.820 you want.

00:45:43.840 If that's how you

00:45:44.980 feel comfortable,

00:45:45.800 I'd be happy to

00:45:46.540 do it.

00:45:47.340 Now, if somebody

00:45:47.940 said, I would

00:45:48.440 like you to

00:45:49.220 call me King

00:45:52.460 Scott and I

00:45:55.240 suck before you,

00:45:56.180 that's my legal

00:45:56.800 name.

00:45:57.820 Whenever you

00:45:58.360 refer to me,

00:45:59.100 call me King

00:45:59.660 Scott, I

00:46:00.100 suck before you.

00:46:02.160 And I said,

00:46:02.600 no, no, don't

00:46:03.400 call me Scott.

00:46:04.720 I prefer to be

00:46:05.600 called King

00:46:06.420 Scott, I

00:46:07.040 suck before your

00:46:07.940 great presence.

00:46:09.360 That's my full

00:46:09.980 name.

00:46:11.940 Now, that would

00:46:12.680 be too far,

00:46:14.060 right?

00:46:14.680 So there's got

00:46:15.380 to be some

00:46:15.660 limits on

00:46:16.820 wokeness.

00:46:18.060 But I don't

00:46:18.860 mind anybody

00:46:19.520 has a he,

00:46:20.640 her preference.

00:46:22.660 But as I've

00:46:23.760 said before,

00:46:24.460 and I will say

00:46:25.040 a million times,

00:46:27.000 said before,

00:46:28.140 and I'll say it

00:46:28.560 a million times,

00:46:29.500 in return for

00:46:30.820 my flexibility

00:46:31.780 and my attempt

00:46:33.900 to have good

00:46:35.260 manners and

00:46:35.860 treat people the

00:46:36.480 way they would

00:46:36.940 like to be

00:46:37.420 treated, you're

00:46:38.720 going to have to

00:46:39.180 give me a break

00:46:39.840 if I get it

00:46:40.400 wrong.

00:46:41.660 And I am not

00:46:42.740 going to take

00:46:43.220 any wiggle on

00:46:44.140 that.

00:46:44.380 If I get one

00:46:47.560 wrong, I

00:46:48.580 misgender you,

00:46:49.660 whatever.

00:46:50.860 And you've

00:46:51.500 got a problem

00:46:51.960 with that?

00:46:53.940 If you

00:46:54.560 correct me, I

00:46:55.660 will take that

00:46:56.220 under advisement

00:46:56.960 and hope to do

00:46:57.720 better.

00:46:58.720 If you attack

00:46:59.860 me, fuck you.

00:47:03.060 Everybody makes

00:47:03.880 mistakes.

00:47:05.460 Fuck you if you

00:47:06.760 attack me for that

00:47:07.520 mistake.

00:47:08.120 Because I don't

00:47:08.620 have bad intentions.

00:47:10.560 You can attack

00:47:11.560 people for bad

00:47:12.260 intentions.

00:47:13.760 You can attack

00:47:14.600 me for bad

00:47:15.240 intentions.

00:47:15.900 If you ever see

00:47:16.520 me with bad

00:47:17.100 intentions, free

00:47:19.080 hit.

00:47:20.140 Free punch.

00:47:21.520 Let me say it

00:47:22.020 again.

00:47:22.220 If you ever are

00:47:24.560 sure, I'd hope

00:47:25.840 you'd be sure

00:47:26.800 about it.

00:47:27.760 Don't guess.

00:47:29.280 But if you ever

00:47:29.840 see me having bad

00:47:30.940 intentions, free

00:47:32.900 punch.

00:47:33.820 Come at me as

00:47:34.480 hard as you

00:47:34.840 want.

00:47:36.000 I try not to do

00:47:37.260 that.

00:47:37.540 I don't think

00:47:38.640 I ever have.

00:47:39.960 But try not

00:47:41.180 to.

00:47:46.140 All right.

00:47:48.660 So let's keep

00:47:50.000 pretending there

00:47:50.700 are people who

00:47:51.240 are offended when

00:47:52.140 none of us have

00:47:53.300 ever met any.

00:47:54.720 And by the way,

00:47:55.400 if I ever do meet

00:47:56.300 somebody who's

00:47:56.940 offended by that

00:47:58.280 kind of stuff, I

00:48:00.100 don't really want

00:48:00.640 to be their

00:48:00.960 friend.

00:48:02.860 I wouldn't spend

00:48:03.680 a minute with

00:48:04.240 somebody who's

00:48:04.660 offended by stuff

00:48:05.420 like that.

00:48:06.140 Because you know

00:48:06.800 it's just going to

00:48:07.340 come back to

00:48:07.820 you.

00:48:09.380 Basically, somebody

00:48:10.360 who's offended by

00:48:11.120 words is just

00:48:11.900 telling you you

00:48:12.440 don't want to

00:48:12.900 interact with them

00:48:13.600 in any way at

00:48:14.320 all.

00:48:15.020 Just run away.

00:48:17.720 All right.

00:48:19.260 I'm seeing some

00:48:20.180 graphs again that

00:48:22.440 people are saying

00:48:24.140 that the

00:48:24.480 vaccinations are

00:48:25.400 hurting people

00:48:26.040 because there are

00:48:27.600 more people

00:48:28.220 hospitalized who

00:48:29.460 are vaxxed than

00:48:30.220 unvaxxed.

00:48:31.420 How many times do

00:48:32.680 we have to go over

00:48:33.420 this?

00:48:33.800 that the

00:48:35.800 population of

00:48:36.880 people who

00:48:37.360 got vaccinated

00:48:38.120 are by nature

00:48:39.480 the weakest

00:48:40.400 ones, so of

00:48:42.600 course the

00:48:43.160 vaccinated would

00:48:43.940 have more

00:48:44.320 hospitalizations.

00:48:45.720 It's exactly what

00:48:46.880 you would expect,

00:48:47.700 but it's being

00:48:48.240 used as proof

00:48:49.720 that vaccinations

00:48:51.040 are hurting you.

00:48:52.360 Now, let me be

00:48:53.020 very clear.

00:48:54.320 I don't know.

00:48:55.820 I don't believe

00:48:56.720 any data about

00:48:57.460 vaccinations.

00:48:59.160 None.

00:48:59.500 There's basically

00:49:00.940 nothing about the

00:49:01.840 pandemic that I

00:49:02.740 believe.

00:49:04.680 Because it's all

00:49:05.520 been, we've been

00:49:06.560 fooled so many

00:49:07.320 times that as

00:49:09.020 soon as you think

00:49:09.640 you know something

00:49:10.340 you're like, well,

00:49:11.200 got disappointed

00:49:11.960 there.

00:49:14.480 Now, I don't

00:49:15.280 know if

00:49:15.680 vaccinations

00:49:16.400 helped or hurt,

00:49:18.020 but I'm going to

00:49:19.000 tell you what I

00:49:19.520 think my scorecard

00:49:21.360 is.

00:49:21.860 All right?

00:49:22.580 This will offend

00:49:23.460 you greatly.

00:49:24.840 I'm going to say

00:49:25.540 again that I had

00:49:26.380 the best pandemic

00:49:28.440 predictions by

00:49:30.240 far.

00:49:31.460 In my opinion,

00:49:32.560 nobody came close,

00:49:33.700 but I won't get

00:49:34.780 any agreement on

00:49:35.640 that because people

00:49:37.160 still disagree

00:49:37.860 what's true.

00:49:39.140 As long as we're

00:49:40.180 disagreeing about

00:49:40.880 what's true,

00:49:42.020 then you can't

00:49:42.940 say who had

00:49:44.640 good predictions.

00:49:46.300 But minor

00:49:47.520 shaping up to be

00:49:48.720 the truest so

00:49:49.460 far.

00:49:49.780 Let me give you

00:49:50.140 some ideas.

00:49:51.280 So in early

00:49:52.260 2020, I said

00:49:53.220 vitamin D looked

00:49:54.080 like it was

00:49:54.720 crucial in

00:49:56.720 COVID.

00:49:56.980 I just told

00:49:59.200 you that I

00:49:59.660 don't think

00:49:59.980 the studies

00:50:00.420 have proven

00:50:00.880 it, but

00:50:02.280 they're all

00:50:02.600 leaning in

00:50:02.980 that direction.

00:50:05.240 Right?

00:50:05.600 So if that

00:50:06.840 turned out to

00:50:07.380 be true or

00:50:09.500 even just a

00:50:10.340 correlation that

00:50:10.980 was important,

00:50:11.660 I'd say I got

00:50:12.420 that one early

00:50:13.260 and correctly.

00:50:15.980 But it's

00:50:16.700 definitely not

00:50:18.600 confirmed that

00:50:19.920 boosting your

00:50:21.120 levels would

00:50:21.660 help you with

00:50:22.900 COVID.

00:50:23.560 It might be

00:50:24.140 later.

00:50:24.620 I predicted

00:50:26.300 that the

00:50:28.100 vaccines wouldn't

00:50:28.980 work.

00:50:30.860 Right?

00:50:31.200 Now, a lot of

00:50:32.080 people believe I

00:50:33.440 did the opposite.

00:50:34.720 But when it was

00:50:35.640 first announced,

00:50:36.920 the experts said

00:50:37.820 we've been working

00:50:38.420 for decades,

00:50:39.240 we're not even

00:50:39.700 close.

00:50:40.680 So I said,

00:50:41.500 well, if the

00:50:42.480 experts think it

00:50:43.280 can't be done,

00:50:44.240 I'll go with the

00:50:44.880 experts.

00:50:45.820 Now, I don't

00:50:46.480 always go with

00:50:47.000 the experts,

00:50:47.560 but in that

00:50:47.960 case I did.

00:50:49.300 And sure

00:50:49.800 enough, the

00:50:50.360 vaccinations did

00:50:51.340 not work as

00:50:52.220 vaccinations.

00:50:53.000 But I said

00:50:54.400 at the time

00:50:54.960 that we're

00:50:55.880 probably going

00:50:56.460 to come up

00:50:57.400 with better

00:50:58.080 therapeutics.

00:51:00.020 I would say

00:51:00.900 I had one of

00:51:01.500 the best

00:51:01.900 predictions,

00:51:02.800 that the

00:51:03.300 vaccines wouldn't

00:51:04.080 work as

00:51:05.200 vaccinations,

00:51:06.160 but that we

00:51:06.900 would come up

00:51:07.440 with strong

00:51:08.320 therapeutics,

00:51:09.480 which I

00:51:10.460 believe we

00:51:10.820 have.

00:51:12.720 Then we see

00:51:13.600 the latest

00:51:14.040 studies that

00:51:14.580 say ivermectin

00:51:15.500 did not work.

00:51:17.640 Am I ready

00:51:18.580 to conclude

00:51:19.360 that ivermectin

00:51:20.860 could not have

00:51:21.660 worked under

00:51:22.160 any combination

00:51:23.020 of when

00:51:24.140 you gave

00:51:24.620 it, who

00:51:25.240 you gave

00:51:25.640 it to, or

00:51:26.700 in any

00:51:27.140 combination of

00:51:27.940 anything else?

00:51:28.940 That, I would

00:51:29.680 say, is

00:51:30.020 unknown.

00:51:31.020 Unknown.

00:51:32.000 But, I

00:51:33.560 said, don't

00:51:34.380 buy into

00:51:35.100 ivermectin

00:51:35.780 right away.

00:51:37.820 I said, wait

00:51:39.660 for studies, and

00:51:41.000 every day that

00:51:41.700 goes by without

00:51:42.660 confirmation, you

00:51:44.240 should lower

00:51:44.840 your odds of

00:51:46.020 it working.

00:51:47.000 So I did the

00:51:47.620 same thing with

00:51:48.200 hydroxychloroquine

00:51:49.320 as with ivermectin.

00:51:50.400 I started with,

00:51:52.040 well, there's

00:51:53.140 some indication

00:51:53.740 it might work,

00:51:54.500 and it doesn't

00:51:54.940 hurt you.

00:51:56.000 Why not?

00:51:57.760 But then, every

00:51:58.820 time some data

00:51:59.880 came in that

00:52:01.000 made it look

00:52:01.440 like maybe it

00:52:02.020 wasn't working,

00:52:02.860 I lowered my

00:52:03.820 percentage likelihood

00:52:05.980 until I got down

00:52:07.200 to about 10%,

00:52:08.160 and that's where

00:52:08.720 I stopped.

00:52:09.900 So that's where

00:52:10.520 I have it.

00:52:12.460 Hydroxychloroquine

00:52:13.020 and ivermectin,

00:52:14.820 somewhere no more

00:52:16.000 than 10%

00:52:16.800 possibility that

00:52:17.980 they ever could

00:52:19.000 have worked in

00:52:20.240 the right dosage

00:52:21.180 with the right

00:52:21.620 combination with

00:52:22.540 the right people

00:52:23.080 at the right

00:52:23.480 time, that sort

00:52:24.300 of thing.

00:52:25.640 So I think I

00:52:26.420 had the best

00:52:27.760 ivermectin and

00:52:29.240 hydroxychloroquine

00:52:30.440 predictions, still

00:52:32.080 admitting, still

00:52:33.320 admitting we don't

00:52:34.180 know if they

00:52:34.540 worked.

00:52:35.640 Are you okay

00:52:36.120 with that?

00:52:37.080 That at this

00:52:37.640 moment we still

00:52:38.300 don't know.

00:52:39.800 But all of the

00:52:40.740 information is

00:52:41.400 leaning in one

00:52:41.980 direction, which

00:52:42.620 is the direction

00:52:43.380 I was going at

00:52:44.500 the same time.

00:52:45.040 Yeah, what

00:52:49.120 else?

00:52:49.500 Let's see.

00:52:51.200 Yeah, I would

00:52:52.040 say that, and

00:52:52.760 then we don't

00:52:53.780 want to talk

00:52:54.180 about masks, but

00:52:55.100 I was the, I

00:52:56.620 believe the only

00:52:57.260 person in the

00:52:57.900 country who

00:52:59.220 said that Fauci

00:53:00.500 was lying when

00:53:01.840 he said masks

00:53:02.700 don't work.

00:53:04.800 And he admitted

00:53:05.680 he was lying.

00:53:06.880 So I'm the only

00:53:07.640 person who got

00:53:08.100 that right.

00:53:08.940 And then when

00:53:09.820 masks were rolled

00:53:11.100 out, I said

00:53:12.940 from an

00:53:13.320 engineering

00:53:13.720 perspective, they

00:53:14.820 almost certainly

00:53:15.440 have to reduce

00:53:16.100 the amount

00:53:16.600 of spread, but

00:53:18.960 we won't see

00:53:19.620 it in the big

00:53:20.120 numbers, because

00:53:21.300 I told you that

00:53:21.980 you wouldn't see

00:53:22.620 anything with

00:53:23.400 leadership in

00:53:24.320 the state and

00:53:26.740 country level,

00:53:28.440 which is why I

00:53:29.520 was against

00:53:30.020 mandates.

00:53:31.140 So I was never

00:53:32.300 for mandates of

00:53:33.340 masks, but

00:53:34.460 unambiguously, if

00:53:35.860 water gets stuck

00:53:37.160 on your mask,

00:53:37.880 there's some

00:53:38.280 virus on that

00:53:38.940 water.

00:53:40.080 We just don't

00:53:40.880 know how much

00:53:41.420 and whether it

00:53:41.860 made a difference,

00:53:42.660 but we can see it

00:53:43.440 didn't make a

00:53:43.900 difference on the

00:53:44.440 state level.

00:53:46.240 I mean, the

00:53:46.640 data doesn't

00:53:47.180 seem to support

00:53:48.500 it.

00:53:49.320 So I would say

00:53:50.320 that I was by

00:53:51.660 far the most

00:53:52.500 right about

00:53:53.200 masks.

00:53:54.040 Nobody was

00:53:54.420 even close.

00:53:55.760 I would say I

00:53:56.680 was probably

00:53:58.820 close to

00:53:59.520 eight or nine

00:54:01.580 out of ten,

00:54:03.000 and I think

00:54:03.420 most people were

00:54:04.080 closer to a

00:54:04.660 three in

00:54:05.700 rightness on

00:54:06.280 that.

00:54:07.180 Now again,

00:54:08.340 this depends on

00:54:09.580 the data that

00:54:10.500 we have

00:54:10.780 we have now

00:54:11.160 continuing to

00:54:13.820 prove out,

00:54:14.740 which might

00:54:15.200 change.

00:54:15.860 So I could

00:54:16.280 be, let me

00:54:17.140 say clearly,

00:54:18.060 I could be

00:54:18.580 wrong on any

00:54:19.540 one of these

00:54:20.000 things, because

00:54:21.960 we never have

00:54:23.800 final confirmations

00:54:24.960 it seems.

00:54:25.960 But I would

00:54:26.760 make my

00:54:27.120 argument that

00:54:27.820 there was

00:54:28.340 nobody even

00:54:28.840 in my general

00:54:30.380 neighborhood of

00:54:31.740 rightness.

00:54:32.300 I wasn't

00:54:32.620 even, nobody

00:54:33.780 was even

00:54:34.100 close to my

00:54:35.840 predictions, in

00:54:36.480 my opinion.

00:54:37.840 There is

00:54:38.440 room for

00:54:39.060 disagreement.

00:54:41.260 All right.

00:54:47.420 So I

00:54:48.020 asked this

00:54:48.500 question on

00:54:49.080 Twitter a few

00:54:49.620 times, and I

00:54:50.300 think I have

00:54:50.680 an answer now

00:54:51.260 about the

00:54:52.800 Mar-a-Lago

00:54:53.360 information.

00:54:57.560 And given

00:54:57.940 that a

00:54:58.300 president doesn't

00:54:59.120 have any

00:54:59.620 requirements for

00:55:00.640 a process for

00:55:01.820 declassifying, I

00:55:03.980 asked the

00:55:04.380 following question.

00:55:06.480 if a president

00:55:07.600 signals that

00:55:09.760 something is

00:55:10.820 declassified, is

00:55:11.760 that good

00:55:12.120 enough?

00:55:12.960 And one way to

00:55:13.640 signal it would

00:55:14.360 be, take these

00:55:15.940 top-secret boxes

00:55:16.880 and move them to

00:55:17.960 Mar-a-Lago.

00:55:19.900 To me, that's

00:55:21.080 declassifying.

00:55:22.720 Because it's

00:55:23.740 clear that anybody

00:55:24.700 would know that

00:55:25.400 taking them to

00:55:26.080 Mar-a-Lago takes

00:55:27.100 them away from a

00:55:28.060 secure place, and

00:55:30.000 anybody can see

00:55:31.580 them.

00:55:32.300 So in my

00:55:32.820 opinion, that

00:55:33.300 would be

00:55:33.680 declassification.

00:55:34.520 And so I

00:55:35.260 asked lawyers,

00:55:35.920 because I'm

00:55:37.080 not one, I

00:55:38.280 said, can a

00:55:39.540 president do

00:55:40.220 any kind of

00:55:41.000 signal, any

00:55:41.760 kind of signal

00:55:42.420 at all, and

00:55:43.720 would that

00:55:44.120 count as

00:55:44.560 declassification?

00:55:45.640 And the

00:55:45.900 lawyer said,

00:55:46.780 what did the

00:55:47.340 lawyer say?

00:55:48.840 What do you

00:55:49.280 think?

00:55:50.580 Did the

00:55:51.200 lawyer say that

00:55:51.860 that's true?

00:55:52.460 As long as he

00:55:53.100 signals by his

00:55:55.060 actions, the

00:55:57.280 answer is yes.

00:55:58.720 Yeah.

00:55:58.860 the people who

00:56:01.760 identified as

00:56:02.660 lawyers said yes.

00:56:04.320 He just has to

00:56:05.280 signal it by his

00:56:06.280 actions, and it's

00:56:07.160 declassified.

00:56:09.360 There isn't any

00:56:10.460 legal risk here, is

00:56:11.380 there?

00:56:13.000 Because even if you

00:56:14.220 allow that you

00:56:15.580 found, let's say you

00:56:16.540 found a lawyer who

00:56:17.360 disagrees, if most

00:56:20.320 lawyers think it's

00:56:21.820 totally legal, you're

00:56:22.680 not going to get a

00:56:23.300 jury to think it's

00:56:24.140 illegal.

00:56:24.480 legal, right?

00:56:26.620 If most lawyers

00:56:28.080 think it's perfectly

00:56:29.280 legal what you

00:56:30.120 did, you're not

00:56:31.720 going to get a

00:56:32.220 jury, 12 people, to

00:56:33.420 say it was illegal.

00:56:34.700 It's just not going

00:56:35.300 to happen.

00:56:36.220 There's no legal

00:56:36.960 risk here at all.

00:56:38.440 Is there?

00:56:39.640 I don't see one.

00:56:40.900 Unless it's a

00:56:42.020 complete rigged

00:56:43.100 trial, and I don't

00:56:44.180 think that's going

00:56:44.720 to happen, because

00:56:45.600 there's too much

00:56:46.160 visibility.

00:56:50.760 Yeah.

00:56:51.380 Well, we're done

00:56:51.900 with the

00:56:52.160 declassification talk.

00:56:54.480 All right, Lockheed

00:56:56.300 Martin is putting

00:56:58.160 into operation

00:56:59.040 lasers on warships.

00:57:01.220 So we've heard

00:57:01.800 about lasers on

00:57:03.100 jets they're

00:57:04.600 testing, but now

00:57:05.760 they've got a laser

00:57:06.480 they can put on a

00:57:07.260 warship.

00:57:08.940 So that's

00:57:10.580 interesting.

00:57:11.560 Do you know what

00:57:11.980 we're going to have

00:57:12.380 to use lasers for?

00:57:14.180 I'll tell you the

00:57:14.840 biggest use of

00:57:15.660 lasers in the

00:57:16.400 future, shooting

00:57:18.500 down drones, the

00:57:20.660 small ones, not the

00:57:22.380 big military ones.

00:57:23.460 Those would be a

00:57:23.900 little harder.

00:57:24.480 But shooting down

00:57:25.760 the small ones.

00:57:27.320 And do you know

00:57:27.780 why you're going

00:57:28.100 to have to shoot

00:57:28.620 those down?

00:57:32.380 Because we're

00:57:33.380 probably about a

00:57:33.960 year away from

00:57:34.540 them being filled

00:57:35.200 with fentanyl.

00:57:38.040 And becoming the

00:57:39.680 primary terrorist

00:57:41.440 weapon.

00:57:43.400 Yeah.

00:57:44.980 Now, I did write a

00:57:46.080 book about that in

00:57:47.860 2003-ish.

00:57:49.960 No, when was it?

00:57:51.560 Somewhere around

00:57:52.280 there.

00:57:53.280 And it's called

00:57:54.280 The Religion

00:57:55.180 War.

00:57:55.700 I might read

00:57:56.440 that, read The

00:57:57.740 Religion War

00:57:58.380 into YouTube and

00:58:00.540 or Locals.

00:58:02.500 So I might turn

00:58:03.280 that into an e-book

00:58:04.100 just by reading it.

00:58:05.300 But there's no way

00:58:09.680 that terrorists are

00:58:12.000 going to not

00:58:12.720 notice that

00:58:14.280 fentanyl is

00:58:15.000 deadly and

00:58:16.240 it's light

00:58:16.920 and easily

00:58:19.360 available.

00:58:20.580 If it's light,

00:58:22.640 a small drone can

00:58:23.680 carry it and

00:58:24.320 deliver it anywhere.

00:58:25.460 If it's deadly,

00:58:26.460 it's better than

00:58:27.240 dynamite because you

00:58:28.860 can't get dynamite

00:58:29.680 very easily.

00:58:30.840 It's hard to

00:58:31.300 get, you know,

00:58:32.020 C, what's the

00:58:33.200 explosive?

00:58:33.840 C, C4?

00:58:36.220 Yeah.

00:58:36.640 It's hard to

00:58:37.160 get a C4, but

00:58:39.700 literally every

00:58:40.700 kid can get

00:58:41.460 fentanyl.

00:58:42.560 A teenager can

00:58:43.460 get fentanyl.

00:58:44.300 So there isn't

00:58:45.140 any doubt where

00:58:45.860 things are going.

00:58:46.660 There's going to

00:58:47.080 be fentanyl and

00:58:48.120 it's going to be

00:58:48.720 on drones.

00:58:50.680 And we're going

00:58:51.440 to need lasers to

00:58:52.460 shoot those drones

00:58:53.220 out of the air.

00:58:56.240 Although maybe

00:58:57.040 that's bad too

00:58:57.800 because the drone

00:58:58.560 is still going to

00:58:59.200 crash and the

00:58:59.780 fentanyl is going

00:59:00.380 to get out.

00:59:00.840 I don't know.

00:59:01.200 Maybe there's no

00:59:01.740 solution.

00:59:02.980 But as long as

00:59:05.420 China is sending

00:59:06.140 us fentanyl and

00:59:07.420 it's going through

00:59:08.000 the cartels, it's

00:59:09.640 going to us, our

00:59:11.380 future is guaranteed.

00:59:13.520 It's fentanyl on

00:59:14.640 small drones for

00:59:15.860 unlimited terrorist

00:59:17.680 attacks in our

00:59:18.460 population centers.

00:59:20.140 There's no way to

00:59:21.020 stop it.

00:59:22.740 Except wipe out

00:59:25.040 the cartels and

00:59:26.880 then tell China

00:59:27.560 they're next.

00:59:28.120 I would definitely

00:59:29.500 kill the fentanyl

00:59:30.940 dealers in China

00:59:33.060 on Chinese

00:59:34.100 territory.

00:59:35.180 Because China

00:59:35.880 isn't going to

00:59:36.460 nuke us for

00:59:37.600 taking out their

00:59:38.220 terrorists.

00:59:39.920 They're going to

00:59:40.520 get really, really

00:59:41.160 mad about it, but

00:59:42.660 fuck them.

00:59:43.860 It's war.

00:59:45.360 We can go into

00:59:46.320 their country and

00:59:46.940 just take them out.

00:59:47.820 I wouldn't drop a

00:59:49.160 missile on them.

00:59:50.380 I wouldn't fire a

00:59:51.280 missile into China.

00:59:53.140 You're going to have

00:59:53.740 to do it on the

00:59:54.260 ground.

00:59:55.340 But it wouldn't be

00:59:56.120 hard.

00:59:56.360 How hard would it

00:59:57.580 be to kill a

00:59:58.580 fentanyl kingpin

00:59:59.540 just by giving him

01:00:01.320 an injection of

01:00:02.240 fentanyl?

01:00:04.360 All right.

01:00:05.820 Pretty easy.

01:00:07.220 All right.

01:00:07.380 All you need is a

01:00:08.740 blow dart with a

01:00:09.640 little fentanyl in it.

01:00:10.580 It's like, and

01:00:12.420 Mr.

01:00:13.460 Kingpin is dead.

01:00:15.280 Now, I don't know

01:00:17.120 how hard it is to

01:00:18.040 get a Chinese agent

01:00:19.600 into China, but I've

01:00:21.600 got a feeling that

01:00:22.360 there might be a

01:00:24.360 couple people who

01:00:26.140 are not happy with

01:00:26.820 the government over

01:00:27.500 there.

01:00:28.280 Might want to give us

01:00:29.020 a little help.

01:00:30.420 There might be

01:00:30.900 somebody.

01:00:33.680 Yeah, blow darts with

01:00:34.820 fentanyl.

01:00:35.280 Get over it.

01:00:36.380 As long as the

01:00:37.260 fentanyl's in the

01:00:38.000 dart.

01:00:40.320 Okay, it's not the

01:00:41.220 safest thing anybody

01:00:42.020 ever did, but murder

01:00:43.380 is never really that

01:00:44.180 safe.

01:00:45.000 It really isn't.

01:00:46.700 I'm going to make a

01:00:47.420 prediction.

01:00:48.540 There isn't the

01:00:49.240 slightest chance that

01:00:50.220 we will not attack

01:00:51.680 the cartels in

01:00:52.980 Mexico.

01:00:54.360 There isn't the

01:00:54.900 slightest chance that's

01:00:55.820 not going to happen.

01:00:57.640 Because, let me tell

01:00:58.740 you what's going to

01:00:59.160 happen.

01:01:02.920 Let me tell you

01:01:03.740 what's going to

01:01:04.100 happen.

01:01:06.180 The number of

01:01:07.060 fentanyl deaths will

01:01:07.940 keep climbing, and

01:01:10.960 at some point, you're

01:01:13.120 all going to be where

01:01:13.980 I am.

01:01:15.100 Well, I've been there

01:01:15.700 a long time.

01:01:16.260 Where I am is, we're

01:01:18.220 in the middle of a

01:01:18.920 war, and there's

01:01:19.760 nothing I won't do.

01:01:22.520 Nothing.

01:01:24.360 Nope.

01:01:25.520 Would I kidnap the

01:01:26.960 president of Mexico?

01:01:29.520 Yes.

01:01:31.200 Yeah, I would.

01:01:33.260 If it would work.

01:01:34.880 I mean, it wouldn't

01:01:35.420 work, right?

01:01:37.340 Would I annex Mexico?

01:01:40.620 Yep.

01:01:41.560 Yep, I would annex

01:01:42.720 Mexico.

01:01:43.920 Yeah.

01:01:44.040 You would have a

01:01:45.300 hard time coming up

01:01:47.100 with something I

01:01:47.740 wouldn't do to stop

01:01:49.600 this problem.

01:01:51.020 I can't think of

01:01:51.820 anything I wouldn't

01:01:52.340 do.

01:01:53.160 Would I start

01:01:54.320 machine gunning the,

01:01:57.380 what do you call

01:01:58.260 them, the coyotes?

01:02:01.040 Yes, I would.

01:02:02.240 Yeah.

01:02:02.520 I would start killing

01:02:03.440 the coyotes where they

01:02:04.480 stand, anytime you can

01:02:05.700 see them from our side

01:02:06.820 of the border.

01:02:07.900 In fact, I'd send

01:02:08.640 drones in and just

01:02:09.400 start killing the

01:02:10.060 coyotes wherever they

01:02:11.380 are.

01:02:11.520 Would it help?

01:02:15.440 I don't care.

01:02:17.560 If you took out the

01:02:19.400 cartel operations, would

01:02:20.860 it stop the fentanyl

01:02:21.820 trade?

01:02:22.420 I don't care.

01:02:24.300 I don't care.

01:02:25.200 It might slow down the

01:02:26.240 next person who wanted

01:02:27.020 to start it.

01:02:28.080 But you have to make

01:02:29.080 sure that everybody who

01:02:30.340 deals fentanyl dies a

01:02:31.660 horrible death and

01:02:32.780 fairly soon.

01:02:33.520 I would also start

01:02:35.900 executing our fentanyl

01:02:37.760 dealers publicly.

01:02:41.380 Publicly.

01:02:42.520 I think a fentanyl

01:02:43.760 dealer needs to be

01:02:44.580 executed publicly, above

01:02:46.440 a certain level.

01:02:47.200 I'm not talking about

01:02:47.960 the onesies, twosies,

01:02:49.940 street dealers.

01:02:51.420 I'm talking about the

01:02:52.300 big ones.

01:02:53.400 Public execution.

01:02:55.240 In fact, if Trump ran

01:02:57.120 on that platform, public

01:02:58.740 execution for fentanyl

01:03:00.080 dealers, and I will

01:03:01.700 attack the cartels in

01:03:03.440 office, I'd be all in.

01:03:06.820 I would be all in.

01:03:11.960 Somebody thinks I

01:03:13.040 support Sharia.

01:03:15.220 Yeah, that's a little

01:03:16.300 bit of a leap.

01:03:17.940 From attacking, from

01:03:19.640 killing mass murderers

01:03:21.480 to Sharia law, that's a

01:03:24.600 little bit of a leap

01:03:25.200 there.

01:03:28.500 How about the mules

01:03:29.600 who transport it?

01:03:30.600 I think you have to

01:03:31.660 make some distinctions

01:03:36.860 in terms of how much

01:03:38.820 they're involved.

01:03:39.660 I wouldn't kill

01:03:40.440 somebody for maybe

01:03:41.600 necessarily transporting

01:03:45.040 it across the border if

01:03:46.820 they're an American

01:03:47.420 citizen.

01:03:48.660 If it's not an American

01:03:50.080 citizen and they

01:03:51.080 transport one pill of

01:03:53.160 fentanyl over the border,

01:03:54.200 I would kill them.

01:03:55.660 I'd kill them.

01:03:56.820 If they transported it to

01:03:58.600 cell, I would say,

01:04:01.540 yeah, if you don't live

01:04:02.840 in this country and you

01:04:03.740 take one pill across the

01:04:04.860 border, I'd kill them.

01:04:08.560 Too far?

01:04:09.560 No, there's nothing

01:04:10.240 that's not too far.

01:04:12.020 There's nothing not too

01:04:13.140 far.

01:04:15.440 All right.

01:04:16.080 A hundred thousand

01:04:17.320 kids, mostly, well,

01:04:20.260 young people, dying per

01:04:21.980 year.

01:04:22.940 Yeah, for one pill.

01:04:24.280 Now, let me say it

01:04:24.840 again, if I knew that

01:04:26.760 the pill, now, of course,

01:04:28.120 nobody's going to bring

01:04:28.820 one pill, right?

01:04:30.560 So that's hyperbole.

01:04:31.900 If you're going to argue

01:04:32.940 about the one pill, you're

01:04:34.060 just arguing hyperbole,

01:04:35.300 and that's useless.

01:04:36.720 I'm just saying if it's

01:04:37.760 obvious they're bringing

01:04:38.800 fentanyl to cell, I

01:04:40.900 wouldn't care how much.

01:04:42.980 If they're bringing it to

01:04:44.000 cell, kill them.

01:04:44.720 All right.

01:04:55.500 Looks like,

01:04:57.160 whoops, what's that?

01:05:04.040 The secret micro lesson,

01:05:05.960 yes.

01:05:08.780 All right.

01:05:12.400 No more Pfizer

01:05:13.480 commercials.

01:05:14.720 Dispromotion,

01:05:17.660 punishment,

01:05:18.300 punishment.

01:05:20.040 Yeah.

01:05:20.920 You know,

01:05:21.580 when people are involved

01:05:23.760 in mass murder,

01:05:25.660 I believe that their

01:05:26.660 own lives should be

01:05:28.140 used for something

01:05:29.440 useful.

01:05:32.020 Not like a regular.

01:05:33.320 If a regular criminal

01:05:34.320 does something, you

01:05:35.320 know, just let the

01:05:36.080 justice thing do its

01:05:38.200 thing.

01:05:38.660 But if you're a mass

01:05:39.540 murderer, I think you

01:05:41.680 should be killed in

01:05:42.840 whatever way is the

01:05:44.460 most useful to

01:05:45.840 society.

01:05:47.040 And if murdering you

01:05:48.040 in public makes

01:05:49.180 somebody else less

01:05:49.980 likely to do it,

01:05:53.500 okay.

01:05:54.840 Yeah.

01:05:55.360 If murdering somebody

01:05:56.800 in a horrible way in

01:05:57.760 front of the public,

01:05:58.800 I would hang them.

01:06:00.060 I'd hang them,

01:06:00.900 actually.

01:06:02.800 And I, because the

01:06:04.240 visual of hanging is

01:06:05.300 just really good.

01:06:07.440 That's a good visual.

01:06:08.360 Oh, actually, I take

01:06:09.340 it back.

01:06:10.320 No, you don't want to

01:06:10.940 hang them because some

01:06:11.680 of them would be

01:06:12.200 black.

01:06:13.260 So, no hanging.

01:06:15.060 No hanging.

01:06:16.440 It's got to be

01:06:16.880 something else.

01:06:18.020 Public execution, but

01:06:19.160 no hanging.

01:06:22.060 Guillotine.

01:06:23.360 Eh, too clean.

01:06:28.480 Yeah.

01:06:28.840 Dope sick started this?

01:06:36.220 Yeah, maybe.

01:06:41.960 Do you own a

01:06:42.820 firearm?

01:06:45.500 Why don't you sneak in

01:06:46.500 my house and find out?

01:06:48.580 Yeah, my, my, uh, my

01:06:52.380 personal defense system

01:06:53.840 is, follows the fuck

01:06:55.700 around and find out.

01:06:56.640 I'm not going to tell

01:06:58.280 you what my personal

01:06:59.160 defense situation is.

01:07:01.800 It's a surprise.

01:07:05.240 And let me just say

01:07:06.400 this.

01:07:07.300 If you get into my

01:07:08.480 house, your problem is

01:07:10.180 getting out.

01:07:12.820 Getting into my house,

01:07:14.020 or really any house,

01:07:15.120 getting into a house is

01:07:16.040 not that hard.

01:07:17.020 All you need is a, you

01:07:18.260 know, a rock, right, to

01:07:19.900 get through a window.

01:07:21.200 Getting into my house, no

01:07:22.420 problem.

01:07:23.760 Getting out, good luck.

01:07:26.640 That's all you need to

01:07:27.680 know about my, my

01:07:28.640 defense.

01:07:32.460 All right.

01:07:34.100 Sounds like a date.

01:07:36.040 All right, everybody.

01:07:37.300 Was this the best show

01:07:38.160 you've ever seen?

01:07:39.020 I think I've, oh, let

01:07:40.080 me, one more thing.

01:07:41.640 Apparently, uh, uh, the

01:07:44.400 web browser on TikTok

01:07:46.180 app can track every

01:07:48.000 keystroke made by its

01:07:49.220 users.

01:07:51.560 How incompetent is our

01:07:53.420 government that they

01:07:54.300 haven't banned TikTok?

01:07:55.200 What's up with that?

01:07:59.720 How incompetent that

01:08:01.400 TikTok, which is clearly

01:08:03.620 a military weapon,

01:08:05.920 clearly, it's a military

01:08:08.140 weapon that we're letting

01:08:09.820 the Chinese use on our

01:08:11.640 youth.

01:08:13.520 And we're just like, oh,

01:08:14.840 okay.

01:08:15.960 Yeah, here you go.

01:08:18.340 So, uh, TikTok has to be

01:08:20.940 banned.

01:08:21.400 I think Trump might be

01:08:23.240 willing to do it, but he

01:08:24.220 didn't.

01:08:25.380 You know, he didn't get

01:08:26.100 it done.

01:08:26.500 I don't know what the

01:08:28.000 limitation is there.

01:08:30.520 Um, and, uh, oh, the

01:08:34.340 big news is that Facebook

01:08:35.560 and TikTok have banned,

01:08:38.120 uh, controversial figure,

01:08:40.420 uh, Andrew Taint.

01:08:42.520 If you don't know who

01:08:43.700 Andrew Taint is, you're

01:08:45.920 lucky.

01:08:46.200 But he's like the, uh,

01:08:48.360 Andrew Dice Clay, but

01:08:51.020 he's got more of a

01:08:52.300 homoerotic vibe to, to

01:08:54.660 his stuff.

01:08:55.480 He's not gay, but he

01:08:57.440 presents himself in sort

01:08:58.620 of a homoerotic vibe.

01:09:00.980 Uh, and he got kicked

01:09:03.980 off of, uh, Facebook

01:09:05.080 and, uh, and, uh,

01:09:07.400 and, uh, Instagram,

01:09:09.520 same company, uh, for

01:09:13.220 saying things which his

01:09:14.520 fans say are just the

01:09:17.160 truth.

01:09:19.120 Now, do you remember

01:09:20.180 that I said a while ago

01:09:21.500 that no man could say

01:09:22.940 what he's actually

01:09:23.620 thinking?

01:09:25.060 Like, you, you, you

01:09:26.040 couldn't survive if a

01:09:27.740 man just said whatever

01:09:28.720 he was thinking,

01:09:29.380 whenever he was

01:09:29.820 thinking.

01:09:30.560 Now, I'm not saying

01:09:31.560 that I'm thinking what

01:09:32.500 he's thinking.

01:09:33.840 I'm just saying it's a

01:09:34.960 good example of

01:09:36.620 somebody who is trying

01:09:38.480 to say what he's

01:09:39.180 actually thinking in

01:09:40.220 public, and he's, he

01:09:42.380 doesn't have a chance.

01:09:45.560 Yeah, he got a big

01:09:46.520 following.

01:09:47.540 Do you know why he

01:09:48.220 got over four million

01:09:49.620 followers almost

01:09:50.540 instantly?

01:09:51.720 Is it because males

01:09:53.580 did disagree with him?

01:09:55.680 No, it's because they

01:09:56.820 knew he was, he was

01:09:58.060 self-immolating by saying

01:09:59.880 things that they sort of

01:10:00.880 also believed or

01:10:02.160 thought were true or

01:10:03.040 rang true.

01:10:07.860 Anyway, so, uh,

01:10:10.220 well, so somebody's

01:10:14.960 saying that, uh, that

01:10:16.420 Cernovich likes him.

01:10:18.000 I don't know if likes

01:10:18.740 him is the right

01:10:19.340 phrase.

01:10:20.460 But, again, uh, my

01:10:23.680 right of a free

01:10:24.800 association is not

01:10:27.080 just for me.

01:10:29.160 If somebody I, I, I

01:10:31.040 like or respect wants

01:10:32.940 to spend some time with

01:10:33.980 somebody I don't like

01:10:34.880 or respect, that's

01:10:35.780 fine.

01:10:37.720 Because Cernovich, like

01:10:39.660 me, exerts his

01:10:41.980 complete right to

01:10:43.380 associate with whoever

01:10:44.620 he wants.

01:10:45.180 Actually, it's one of the

01:10:45.880 things I like most about

01:10:46.900 him.

01:10:47.560 In fact, he associated

01:10:48.780 with me, Cernovich did,

01:10:50.840 before, before I had

01:10:52.460 much of a following on

01:10:53.540 social media.

01:10:54.520 And I think that was

01:10:55.320 risky.

01:10:56.780 So, uh, I'm never

01:10:59.180 going to give somebody a

01:11:00.120 hard problem for who

01:11:00.980 they spend time with,

01:11:02.220 endorse, prefer.

01:11:03.740 Or, that's, that's

01:11:06.360 all just their

01:11:06.920 decisions.

01:11:10.920 Um, all right, there

01:11:17.640 we go.

01:11:20.120 Hello from Nigeria.

01:11:24.940 Yeah, we have to demand

01:11:26.120 our freedom of

01:11:26.760 association.

01:11:27.320 There are

01:11:31.840 exceptions.

01:11:34.080 Really?

01:11:35.500 Well, there would be

01:11:36.500 maybe exceptions for

01:11:37.660 what kind of time you

01:11:39.060 spend with them.

01:11:40.640 But, not for a

01:11:41.820 selfie.

01:11:42.840 I don't have any

01:11:43.480 exceptions for that.

01:11:49.260 Um.

01:11:53.160 All right.

01:11:53.760 All right.

01:11:53.800 All right.

01:11:57.320 Uh, there's some

01:11:59.240 Andrew Tate, Taint,

01:12:00.640 uh, impersonator

01:12:01.500 videos.

01:12:05.300 All right.

01:12:06.040 Well, uh, that's

01:12:09.040 all I got for today.

01:12:10.340 Would you agree that

01:12:11.260 this is, uh, probably

01:12:12.300 the best live stream

01:12:13.940 you're ever going to

01:12:14.980 see?

01:12:15.860 Maybe in the history

01:12:16.820 of all time.

01:12:18.740 Yeah.

01:12:20.040 Very close.

01:12:20.980 Very close.

01:12:21.600 To the best thing

01:12:22.320 you'll ever see.

01:12:25.140 All right.

01:12:26.500 Uh.

01:12:27.320 I did finish, I did

01:12:28.560 fix my Photoshop

01:12:30.260 problem.

01:12:31.240 There was a setting

01:12:31.960 that changed somehow

01:12:34.300 on its own.

01:12:35.340 And the setting

01:12:36.100 that changed seemed

01:12:36.900 to have nothing to do

01:12:38.020 with the brush tool.

01:12:40.560 Uh, the brush tool

01:12:41.620 has lots of settings

01:12:42.640 in different places

01:12:43.620 and you have to

01:12:44.200 find them all.

01:12:45.120 So it's just a

01:12:45.760 terrible interface

01:12:46.400 problem.

01:12:47.600 Yeah, so the

01:12:48.020 computer works.

01:12:48.800 That's the good news.

01:12:52.200 And, uh, that's

01:12:53.260 all for now.

01:12:53.760 I'll talk to you

01:12:54.200 later.

01:12:54.800 You too.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - August 20, 2022

Episode 1841 Scott Adams： All The News Today Is About Men Acting Badly. Do Women Make News Anymore？

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