Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1853 Scott Adams： All The News Is Funny, Fake And Interesting Today. Come Enjoy It With Me

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00:00:45.620 Now, I don't know, that felt incomplete. It felt, there's something missing. It feels

00:01:01.640 sort of semi-fascist. Semi-fascist. Let's see if I can go full fascist.

00:01:09.100 Yup. Full fascist. Two sips. That's all it took. I didn't realize I was that close. Wow. Shocker. 0.97

00:01:26.000 That close. Well, LA woke up to a fake evacuation order today. I love this story. I'm just trying

00:01:38.480 to imagine what it would be like to wake up to this. So apparently, there was an emergency

00:01:44.440 alert system that interrupted regular TV programming in LA Wednesday, telling the entire LA county

00:01:52.660 and the eastern North Pacific Ocean area to evacuate due to a fire. But they say it was

00:01:59.700 an error. They accidentally almost evacuated Los Angeles.

00:02:09.660 Oh, come on. That's funny. Oops. Can you imagine being the programmer who made that error? And imagine

00:02:25.540 the performance review. Well, Bob, let's see. Look at your performance for the year. You got

00:02:35.000 some good things done. You finished the Project Zebra right on time. Seems you completed all

00:02:42.060 your mandatory training. Good. Good. And you accidentally evacuated Los Angeles. Ooh. I'm going to have to ding you for that.

00:02:55.500 All right. I don't know why that's so funny. For some reason, that's just funny to me.

00:03:06.960 Ah. Well, the California legislature just voted overwhelmingly. Overwhelmingly, I say, which is

00:03:15.960 actually important, the overwhelmingly part, to save Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant. Now, if you don't

00:03:22.960 know California politics, the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant has been a huge political issue, the person I

00:03:32.140 believe most associated with advocacy to keep it was Michael Schellenberger. So I believe this is one of the

00:03:40.000 maybe greatest advocacy successes maybe you've ever seen. I mean, it's hard to think of another one that would be this

00:03:51.420 substantial. Basically, a small group of people just went balls to the wall for years to get this victory, and they got it.

00:04:01.240 So congratulations to everyone involved. But here's the part that's amazing, the overwhelming part.

00:04:13.220 Why is it overwhelmingly popular now? It's just because the danger makes everybody think a little bit more

00:04:22.600 clearly? Because the danger was always here. It's just that the fact that we're actually going to have

00:04:29.000 to turn off the lights and take turns having electricity. I guess that gives you a little religion,

00:04:35.840 doesn't it? So California's wised up. Oil prices have been dropping for a month. Why is that happening?

00:04:50.900 How is it possible that oil prices would be dropping? Is somebody pumping more, or is the demand going down?

00:04:57.560 Is that, is that a recession kicking in? End of summer? Lower demand? Yeah, maybe just the price was so high the demand

00:05:07.400 went down, huh? Something like that. People probably changed, probably a lot of people just started commuting, or I'm

00:05:14.760 sorry, telecommuting. How many of you, let me ask a little quick poll. How many of you, for, because of gas prices

00:05:25.580 alone, or let's say primarily, how many of you primarily for gas prices are working at home more

00:05:32.700 days? Might be one more day a week or something? Anybody work? Yeah, I'm seeing yeses. Some yeses

00:05:40.660 coming in. No change. Most people would be no change, I would think. Yeah. Okay, so a little bit of yes.

00:05:51.500 So that might be part of it. People adjusting their habits. All right, here's my question. We have all seen

00:06:00.600 alarmist climate graphs showing that the temperature is going to be rising, and that the seawater would

00:06:08.280 rise, and people would die. Am I right? We've got very alarming 80-year predictions about climate change.

00:06:15.300 But where are my graphs showing how many people will be killed by climate overreaction?

00:06:23.280 Don't you think that needs to be a graph? And I think we're at that hockey stick juncture right now.

00:06:31.240 Here's my guess. Did I ever tell you I'm good at guessing things that I don't know anything about?

00:06:36.340 It's like an actual skill that you learn if you do a lot of numbers stuff for a living. I did this for

00:06:43.440 years. Did a lot of financial analysis and estimates and business cases and things where you had to guess

00:06:50.060 what something would cost in the future. And you end up getting good at it. Even though there's no

00:06:55.940 reason you should be good at it, you're guessing things you have no experience in. But here's my current

00:07:00.960 guess for how many people will be killed by climate alarmism. So not the climate, but decisions we made

00:07:09.840 because we were alarmed about the climate. One to 10 million. One to 10 million. I'm going to put the

00:07:16.800 probable death rate from making bad energy decisions collectively, not one decision, but bad energy

00:07:25.960 decisions collectively. They're based on, let's say, irrational thinking. So just the decisions that were based on

00:07:35.880 irrational thinking, like nuclear decisions. They were rational at one point. Now they're rational. So I think the

00:07:45.180 current estimate would be one to 10 million. Would anybody disagree with that? Now, if you're saying it's low, I would say,

00:07:55.180 maybe later it would be expanded. But I think one to 10 million has to be a number that we need to start kicking

00:08:02.020 around. Now, first of all, if I were to do a detailed analysis of this, do you think you would trust it? If I did more

00:08:11.360 rigor than just guessing, do you think that that would be more convincing? It shouldn't be. Because no matter how much

00:08:17.900 rigor I put into it, I'd be kind of still guessing. So that's my, and I'm going to say that that's an expert

00:08:26.680 guess. An expert in this context doesn't mean an expert on climate or science. It means an expert at

00:08:33.380 guessing stuff. I'm really good at guessing stuff that are, you know, numbers-wise. Now, I'm not going to say

00:08:41.980 that you should depend on that guess. That's different. I'm just saying that I do have a track

00:08:46.240 record of guessing things that are hard to guess. I don't know why. I think it's because of experience

00:08:52.960 doing that kind of work. Because other people who did that work could do the same thing.

00:08:59.560 All right. Well, I would like to see somebody produce an actual estimate of that with an actual

00:09:05.680 graph. Because I think at this point, we have enough that you could, you could make an argument

00:09:11.860 to support a number. I don't think that an estimate of that type would be accurate. But you could come

00:09:18.840 up with something that was as useful as the climate graphs. Now, I've argued that the climate graphs

00:09:26.400 that say, you know, we're all doomed because the temperature's going up. I've argued two things that

00:09:32.460 sound like opposites. One, is they're totally inaccurate. Two, they're very useful. Do you see

00:09:42.460 how those both could be true? The climate, you know, the predictions for the 80 years in the future,

00:09:50.260 completely inaccurate. And at the same time, completely useful. Because their intention is to

00:09:57.580 make you not have that future. Right? They're used for persuasion. So for persuasion-wise,

00:10:04.140 they're big and scary. They're not accurate. Nobody can make an estimate for 80 years. That's not a

00:10:10.160 thing. So they're not accurate. But if they make you act differently in the moment, and that's what

00:10:15.280 they tried to do, if that's what they tried to do, then it's successful. Now, if what it did was

00:10:21.800 cause you to overreact, then it was the biggest failure ever. What did it do? It caused us to

00:10:29.620 overreact. You could argue it was the biggest failure of all time, you know, in terms of scientific

00:10:35.560 communication. But we'll see. We'll see how that plays out. But it needs to be turned into something

00:10:42.840 visual the way the hockey stick climate graphs are. If you want to get more rationality into the

00:10:51.960 climate decisions, you need to have a graph that shows the cost. Now, there's a long Twitter thread

00:11:02.640 that I just retweeted from Epstein, who's got his book, Fossil Future. And check that out. And he does

00:11:13.980 a great job of explaining how the critics will ignore some variables and only look at others. And he's

00:11:20.980 gotten specific examples of that. Once you see it, right, it's a half analysis. Once you see how

00:11:32.540 the people on one side are continuously ignoring half of the argument, you understand how we got

00:11:39.620 here. So, you know, you know how weird my life is, right? I tell you this all the time.

00:11:52.100 You've, those of you, especially on Locals, if you've been following me for a while,

00:11:55.920 you know how much time I spend trying to save the world, right? Yeah, Alex Epstein is the author of

00:12:04.500 Fossil Future, not the other Epstein. Just clarifying that. So, you know how much time I've,

00:12:14.000 I've put into trying to save the world, right? In a variety of ways. So, I tried to be active in the

00:12:20.340 nuclear energy stuff, and a variety of things. So, this is the weird thing about trying to save the

00:12:27.660 world. You know, no good deed gets unpunished. You've heard that? That is so true.

00:12:37.080 Hey, there we go. We already got a chart, somebody on climate, on Locals already made one.

00:12:42.580 But when I'm not trying to save the world, I'm being criticized by people who hate me

00:12:49.760 for things that they imagine I'm doing. So, the trouble is, if you try to make the world a better

00:12:55.780 place, people will imagine you're destroying it. So, it makes it really hard to be useful.

00:13:03.900 Let me give you an example. I just saw this today. So, I saw an article on Slate. Do you remember Slate?

00:13:10.420 That's still a thing, I guess. And they were debunking Alex Epstein's book, Fossil Future.

00:13:17.740 And part of their debunking is that he had associated with me on Twitter. So, because the

00:13:26.840 author had associated with me on Twitter, that's a reason not to buy the book. What?

00:13:35.740 And so, I was referred to as a conspiracy theorist. And I thought, conspiracy theorist? I'm not

00:13:45.080 even sure what the example of that would be. But you can see how my reputation is just completely

00:13:52.100 up for grabs. Like, anybody can write anything. Just write anything. So, at the very same time,

00:14:00.400 I was literally putting my, you know, time and risking my life, literally, to make the

00:14:08.280 world a better place. I'm literally risking my life. Because a lot of the things I say

00:14:12.960 make you targets for whoever's on the other side, right? It's a crazy world. So, if you're

00:14:18.800 a public figure and you say things that have any impact on the world at all, somebody's going 0.97

00:14:23.820 to try to kill you. So, I'm literally risking my life to make the world a better place. Don't

00:14:29.340 really need the money, right? Like, why else am I doing it? And there's some asshole at Slate

00:14:35.700 who's using me as an example of why some other person's book would be less credible because 0.98

00:14:41.720 I've tweeted him. Good Lord. Could you be less useful to society than whoever wrote this

00:14:50.380 on Slate? Anyway. All right. The biggest story in the world by far is AI. And again, I'm going

00:15:00.460 to try to save the world in a small way. You really need to be warned about what's coming

00:15:05.420 because it's coming really fast now. We've now entered the things are changing faster than

00:15:11.640 you can keep up phase of it. Let me just give you an example of what's new this week in AI

00:15:19.460 because the rate of change in AI is going to go from, oh my God, they keep saying AI is

00:15:25.840 coming. Where's my AI? All right. Well, that's a little bit of AI, but that's so not impressive.

00:15:31.980 Where's my AI? Years are going by. You keep saying there'll be AI. They'll never be AI. Where's

00:15:37.100 my AI? The thing people don't understand is that when it takes off, it's going to happen

00:15:45.420 really fast. And that's even before the singularity. The singularity is what's called

00:15:51.880 that point where AI can learn on its own. I would argue it's already there, but there's another level

00:16:00.160 of that that it's not quite there at. But way before it reaches the singularity, and that's where

00:16:07.060 we are now, it's doing stuff that you didn't think it could do faster than you thought it could do it.

00:16:12.080 For example, AI already took first place in a human art competition.

00:16:21.460 Just let that sink in. AI already, already, you're not waiting for it. This isn't the future.

00:16:29.560 Art, it already took first place in an art contest. Now, do you remember me telling you two weeks ago,

00:16:40.640 maybe, that in my opinion, AI art was already better than humans? Does anybody remember me saying

00:16:47.580 that two weeks ago? Yeah. Now, do you know why I could see it, and maybe other people couldn't see

00:16:52.520 it as easily? Do you know why? Why could I see it a little bit faster, not much faster, but a little

00:16:59.960 bit faster than you could? Do you know why? Because I make art for a living. I'm not good at it,

00:17:06.300 but I work in the field. If you make art for a living, do you know what you know that other people

00:17:10.960 don't know? It's a formula. Hate to tell you, art's pretty much a formula. It really is. And if you

00:17:23.780 follow the formula, you can make good art. Now, AI knows what colors people like, it knows what

00:17:30.320 paintings were popular before. It's just finding the patterns and putting them together. Do you know

00:17:35.740 what freaked me the fuck out? Think about this. Do you remember the early I asked people to do AI art

00:17:44.480 about me? Or people were doing it anyway, I guess. So AI created a bunch of photos of me in which my

00:17:52.400 face was distorted in a variety of ways. Sometimes my face was combined with other objects or just

00:17:59.380 somehow skewed or whatever. Now, here's what scared the fuck out of me when I saw that.

00:18:05.740 AI knows what a face looks like. AI knows that faces are mostly symmetrical, you know, within

00:18:14.480 reason. AI knew exactly what I do look like. It chose to paint it artistically. The reason it didn't

00:18:27.200 look exactly like me is that it was putting artistic levels on top of it. When I looked at those

00:18:35.120 pictures of me distorted, I had two thoughts. Hey, why doesn't that look, you know, just like me?

00:18:42.160 Because it knows how to do that. And it chose not to. It actually chose not to show me the way I look.

00:18:50.720 It chose a different artistic frame on it. And I don't know how it did that. Because I don't believe

00:18:57.940 that any human told it to make faces non-symmetrical. That looked like an intelligent choice.

00:19:06.660 I mean, I don't know what intelligence means in this specific instant. But now just consider this.

00:19:15.140 Consider my assumptions. Don't you believe that the AI that was advanced enough to do this art

00:19:21.040 certainly knows that a human face is symmetrical. And it can find thousands of pictures of my actual

00:19:29.200 face online. So it knows exactly what I look like. And yet it did not choose to represent me that way.

00:19:36.500 It was already an artist. As soon as I saw that, that's when I knew we were done.

00:19:43.440 As soon as I knew that it could already give me an artistic interpretation that wasn't fed into it,

00:19:51.200 it's already thinking. It's already conscious. It's already sentient. In a sense. In the minor sense.

00:19:59.380 But it's already sentient. In my opinion. Right? It'll always be a different opinion.

00:20:04.440 All right. So was that freaky enough? I've got a book called The Religion War that came out

00:20:09.400 years ago that never had an audiobook associated with it. By the way, all of this is coming through

00:20:14.580 Machiavelli's Underbelly account. So he's doing all the interesting things that we're learning about

00:20:21.020 and tweeting about. So Machiavelli's Underbelly ran at least one part of my book, The Religion War,

00:20:30.860 and used AI to create an audiobook from it. And the first thing you say is, well, they've been doing

00:20:39.400 that forever. That's not new. To have the machine read words. That's not new. Here's what's new.

00:20:49.200 The machine read it in my voice.

00:20:51.480 That's new. It was my voice. It read my book in my voice. Are you hearing this? It read my fucking

00:21:06.740 book in my voice. And it wasn't me. Now, you can still tell it was a computer, because it wouldn't 1.00

00:21:15.960 hit the accents right, right? It would punch words a little differently than I would. How long

00:21:20.800 do you think it would take for it to learn how to punch the words correctly, given that I have

00:21:25.660 a billion hours of audio of my actual voice talking? You don't think you could just listen

00:21:32.160 to a billion hours of me talking, go back to that audiobook and just fix it? Of course it could.

00:21:39.920 Of course it could. So that's coming.

00:21:45.400 Yeah, so at this point, you could get a phone call from somebody you think you know, and it won't be.

00:21:50.800 I imagine you could change your voice in real time, right? Is there any reason I couldn't

00:21:56.160 speak into my phone and have it come out the other end as somebody else's voice? There's

00:22:02.140 no reason that can't happen. That's here. Within a tweak. We're just a tweak away from that

00:22:09.660 being completely operational. Maybe it is in some other version. Likewise, from also Machiavelli's

00:22:17.560 Underbelly, found a video of me giving a speech at Berkeley years ago. And some people ask if it

00:22:27.980 was a real video of me, because I was wearing a button-down shirt. I promise you, I do own

00:22:34.160 one button-down shirt. It's my TV shirt. So yes, it was me. Actually, I own a few. But

00:22:41.680 in this case, I was rapping Eminem's famous raps, but it was me. So here I am, like it looks

00:22:52.040 like I'm talking, but I'm rapping Eminem. But I think I was rapping in my voice, not Eminem's

00:23:02.500 voice. So it's like, what this can do is crazy. All right. We now know that the kids who were

00:23:12.100 in Zoom school were not in any school at all, they were just being tortured. Can we say

00:23:18.200 that? So at this point, we can just say, what you thought was Zoom school wasn't any kind

00:23:22.920 of school at all. It was just some kind of child abuse that we all participated in, because

00:23:31.320 it was easier than fixing it, right? We all did that. So congratulations to all of us. We

00:23:38.340 all fucked up our youth intentionally and didn't do a thing about it. So good for you and me, 0.97

00:23:46.460 by the way. If this looks like I'm criticizing you, nope. This is on me. Just as much. And

00:23:55.420 I'll say the same argument when people were saying, you know, that the rank and file FBI are

00:24:02.280 awesome, to which I say, hmm, it doesn't work that way. Now, if you're in the FBI, and your

00:24:09.840 leadership is embarrassing you, it's sort of on you. It is a little bit on you. It's not maybe the

00:24:16.460 primary thing on you, but it's a little bit on you. Likewise, if I criticize the government for

00:24:25.440 Zoom school, that's a little bit on me, isn't it? Because I let it happen, didn't I? Right? All of

00:24:31.800 us did. So that's not exactly on the government. Yeah, I think you have to be a little bit, a

00:24:39.660 little bit flexible on this one. The government definitely did something that hurt children. 1.00

00:24:45.280 But we let that happen. We let that happen. Because we didn't have a better idea either,

00:24:50.900 frankly. So that's on us and them. But it's also on the teachers unions, because the teachers

00:25:01.440 unions were probably the, I would say, one of the main drivers of Zoom school. And we know

00:25:10.500 now that minorities got further behind than ever, presumably because white kids had more resources

00:25:20.660 Asian kids, maybe had more resources. So teachers unions, again, are the largest cause of systemic

00:25:29.980 racism. Now, there were lots of causes, but the largest one was the teachers unions. Again,

00:25:36.800 the teachers unions are consistently the source of systemic racism. Because they, you know, their

00:25:44.920 influence is what allows a lack of competition in schools, if you haven't heard that argument.

00:25:50.040 So if there's a lack of competition, that explains everything. All right. There were two tweets

00:25:55.460 today, yesterday, that seem to indicate ivermectin works for COVID. Hold on, hold on. I'm not saying

00:26:04.860 it works for COVID. Did you hear that? I didn't say that. I said there were two tweets or two claims.

00:26:10.800 Two claims. Two claims. One of them is that the NIH, the National Institute of Health, is now listing

00:26:18.980 ivermectin as a potential treatment for COVID. So if the National Institute of Health puts it on their

00:26:28.140 page as a potential, potential treatment for COVID, I guess then everything you thought about COVID is

00:26:36.980 wrong, right? I guess maybe it does work, huh? Is that what you conclude?

00:26:43.980 No. For those of you who danced on my grave because you saw that tweet, maybe you should have read it.

00:26:52.340 Because here's what the National Institute of Health says. On the very page that is being retweeted,

00:26:58.220 the panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID, except in clinical trials.

00:27:06.300 So they are in favor of clinical trials.

00:27:09.940 Were they ever not in favor of clinical trials?

00:27:14.000 Has anybody ever

00:27:15.740 not been in favor of clinical trials?

00:27:19.220 Of anything?

00:27:20.020 I mean, if somebody is willing to pay for a clinical trial of anything, mostly we're in favor of it, right?

00:27:28.980 If the people who are in the trial have full disclosure, they know what they're doing,

00:27:33.540 somebody else is paying for it, I'm not paying for it, would you ever be opposed to it?

00:27:39.360 Of course not.

00:27:40.520 So there's absolutely no news here.

00:27:42.120 There's no news about ivermectin being more promoted, and there's no new acceptance of it.

00:27:52.920 It's just an acknowledgement that there are trials.

00:27:56.820 Now, here's a more interesting one.

00:27:59.480 Did you see a tweet yesterday that there was a Brazilian trial that showed that ivermectin taken prophylactically,

00:28:06.280 meaning before you get the infection, reduced COVID deaths in Brazil by 92 percent?

00:28:14.440 Did you see that?

00:28:16.580 So I guess it's one of the biggest ivermectin trials, or the biggest.

00:28:22.040 So I guess it works then, right?

00:28:26.200 Is that what you're hearing?

00:28:27.960 Did you hear me say it works?

00:28:30.720 How many heard me say that?

00:28:33.280 I didn't say that.

00:28:34.800 I didn't say it worked.

00:28:36.280 Don't hear what you want to hear.

00:28:39.620 All right, so let's recalibrate.

00:28:42.960 Recalibrate.

00:28:44.120 It's one of the biggest studies of an ivermectin.

00:28:46.900 It suggests it not only works, but it works great.

00:28:50.160 Like, amazingly great.

00:28:53.180 But do you hear me saying it's working?

00:28:56.140 You shouldn't.

00:28:57.680 So I tweeted it and said, hey, debunkers, take a look at this.

00:29:01.360 How long did it take the debunkers to debunk that study?

00:29:04.760 About 60 seconds.

00:29:08.640 About 60 seconds.

00:29:10.320 Do you know what was wrong with the study?

00:29:13.760 Well, it wasn't, it was not a randomized controlled trial.

00:29:18.900 It was not a randomized controlled trial.

00:29:21.180 Is there anything else I have to say about it?

00:29:26.820 That's all.

00:29:27.600 It wasn't a randomized controlled trial.

00:29:30.180 So that's, so it's close to meaningless.

00:29:33.620 How about the second part?

00:29:36.200 The mortality rate among non-users was 5.3%, which is, this came from Dave Explains.

00:29:43.200 It's, it's a, he's a Twitter user.

00:29:47.380 At, at Dave Explains Why.

00:29:49.680 That's his account.

00:29:51.480 And he says, the second problem is that the mortality rate among non-users was 5 times higher than in the U.S.

00:29:58.100 So basically the study says that just living in the U.S. gives you an 80% chance, reduces your risk by 80%.

00:30:05.960 In other words, it's ridiculous. 0.91

00:30:08.840 The numbers that they produce are sort of ridiculous on their surface, right? 1.00

00:30:13.580 They're just sort of obviously bullshit. 0.97

00:30:15.360 And then the claim that there was a 90% improvement, do you think that if ivermectin, even prophylactically, could improve things by 92%, do you think nobody would have noticed that? 0.99

00:30:31.700 That's the sort of claim that on the surface you should say, nah, no, no, come on.

00:30:40.360 Yeah.

00:30:41.200 But here's the best part.

00:30:42.500 Are you waiting for the best part of the debunk?

00:30:45.360 The people who ran the study, they neglected to mention some of their conflicts of interest.

00:30:53.700 Do you think they had any conflicts of interest?

00:30:57.660 They worked for the ivermectin-making manufacturer.

00:31:02.880 They didn't disclose that.

00:31:05.720 I think Pierre Corrie was part of it, too.

00:31:08.720 Have you heard of Pierre Corrie, banned from Twitter?

00:31:11.200 I think, is that true?

00:31:12.680 Was he banned from Twitter?

00:31:15.360 So the people who did not disclose their conflicts literally worked for an ivermectin manufacturer?

00:31:22.780 I would say that that qualifies them as frauds.

00:31:35.000 Is that too strong?

00:31:35.940 If somebody publishes a paper on something that is, you know, their own company, the company that pays them, anyway, not their company, but the company pays them, and they don't disclose that, is that just a lack of disclosure, or is that just full fraud?

00:31:52.300 I would call that fraud.

00:31:53.300 I would call that fraud.

00:31:54.140 Is that too strong?

00:31:57.940 Now, I don't know if it's fraud in the legal sense, but I would say that it is an intentional effort to mislead people.

00:32:06.940 If you have a connection to the manufacturer of ivermectin, and you don't disclose that when you print your results, that feels like you intended people to be mislead to me.

00:32:19.440 So, yeah, so it's probably not fraud legally.

00:32:23.360 That's right.

00:32:24.080 I would accept that interpretation.

00:32:26.540 It's probably not fraud from a legal sense.

00:32:29.460 But ethically, as the word fraud gets used in common use, it's fraudulent.

00:32:35.500 So, before you dance on my prediction grave about ivermectin, just know that the news about it is fake, fake news.

00:32:46.760 Here's some more news.

00:32:49.320 Just minutes before the end of her term, so there was somebody at the United Nations High Commission for Human Rights that minutes before the end of her term released this damning report on China's treatment of the Uyghurs.

00:33:02.420 Do you know why this was released just minutes before the end of her term?

00:33:08.320 Because China's pressure was so high that she couldn't do it while she was still on the job. 0.95

00:33:13.860 She had to quit at the same time that she published her findings.

00:33:19.220 Now, maybe she was leaving anyway.

00:33:20.740 I don't know if it had been announced or whatever.

00:33:22.260 But basically, she couldn't even publish unless she was also leaving the job at the same time.

00:33:29.200 That was, let's see, it's a damning report of how they're treating them.

00:33:38.640 And there were up to 2 million, blah, blah, blah.

00:33:41.380 Now, China makes the following claim.

00:33:43.740 You know all those videos you saw of the so-called training facilities that look like basically prison camps?

00:33:51.940 You've all seen the pictures of those.

00:33:54.920 There were alleged prison camps that the Chinese would say are allegedly training facilities.

00:34:02.600 Well, they say that those stopped in 2019.

00:34:06.320 What do you think?

00:34:08.020 So China says they don't exist anymore.

00:34:10.160 They did exist.

00:34:11.240 So they acknowledged at least, you know, the facility existed.

00:34:14.040 But they say they stopped doing it in 2019.

00:34:16.120 Now, you say BS, but I'm not so sure.

00:34:21.120 I'm not so sure that's BS.

00:34:22.920 Because the training camps were too big and visual.

00:34:26.900 And China might have said, oh, we can't have a big visual, you know, prison camp.

00:34:31.600 So they may have figured out some way to distribute the pain in some way.

00:34:37.820 It's possible that those facilities got closed.

00:34:40.900 I think that's possible.

00:34:42.440 It doesn't mean that they started treating the Uyghurs well. 1.00

00:34:45.060 Well, that's different.

00:34:46.900 But why is it that we don't know?

00:34:49.520 We don't have a satellite sitting.

00:34:51.620 We can't look at those camps directly and see if there's activity.

00:34:55.600 If the United States can't tell you whether these are still there or not,

00:35:00.440 you know, seriously, our satellites can't see them.

00:35:04.500 So there's something going on in terms of what information we're getting.

00:35:09.680 So I don't believe anything on this topic.

00:35:13.500 It's hard to believe.

00:35:15.060 What do you think of this?

00:35:19.700 You've heard that the Biden supporters are trying to do what the Republicans are good at,

00:35:25.840 which is embrace a criticism.

00:35:29.560 You know, so let's go Brandon was the joke about Biden.

00:35:33.380 So now they've got these memes called Dark Brandon.

00:35:36.700 Dark Brandon.

00:35:37.720 So he's got an aviator glasses, and he's sort of like a, you know, a cool, evil superhero or something.

00:35:45.080 He's dark.

00:35:45.760 He's dangerous.

00:35:47.080 He's coming for you.

00:35:49.280 He's cool.

00:35:50.860 But here's my pro-suggestion to the persuaders in the Democratic Party.

00:35:55.640 If your leader is the person most associated with running out of electricity and the lights

00:36:03.860 going out, don't call him dark.

00:36:06.200 Is it dark because we can't keep the lights on?

00:36:10.800 Because I feel like that's the dark that's suggested by that.

00:36:16.340 Secondly, it's cultural appropriation.

00:36:20.020 I think calling him Dark Brandon is a little bit too much cultural appropriation.

00:36:29.620 I don't know.

00:36:30.280 I don't know.

00:36:30.660 Maybe you don't see it.

00:36:31.980 But I'm a little more sensitive to these microaggressions than you are.

00:36:36.800 And I feel it's totally inappropriate that he would...

00:36:39.660 I mean, it's basically, it's the meme version of blackface. 0.62

00:36:43.480 Dark Brandon.

00:36:45.300 And I'm totally offended on behalf of other people.

00:36:47.800 Do you know how to be offended?

00:36:51.040 If I've taught you nothing, never be offended yourself because that would make you look weak.

00:36:56.980 But you should always be white knighting for people you've never met.

00:37:00.140 There are other people totally offended by this.

00:37:02.560 So on behalf of other people I don't know and will probably never talk to on this topic,

00:37:07.020 I'm deeply offended that they're calling him Dark Brandon and appropriating somebody's cultural property.

00:37:14.740 Well, Kyle Bass, who I love for being a now-spoken critic of China, is also a critic of ESG.

00:37:24.880 And he says these policies that are ESG-driven are going to end up starving the poor children of the world and killing many of them.

00:37:33.580 And he says, I can't believe it's not on the front page of every paper every day.

00:37:37.580 Well, I can't believe that either.

00:37:41.520 But I can tell you that in a month or two, Dilbert's company will be involved with ESG,

00:37:48.160 and they will destroy the entire nation of Elbonia. 0.65

00:37:53.840 So everybody in Elbonia will die because of ESG in the coming months.

00:37:59.120 So I'm going to do what I can.

00:38:00.700 I do have a series on ESG coming out in the Dilbert comic in September.

00:38:05.500 So when that comes out, and by the way, I don't know if they'll get published,

00:38:10.720 because they're a little bit edgier than what I usually do.

00:38:14.400 So I've promised that I would try to kill ESG by the end of the year by mocking it out of existence.

00:38:21.440 So I'll see what I can do.

00:38:27.240 All right, what else?

00:38:28.200 So what about this business of Biden calling the mega people semi-fascists?

00:38:36.180 And then his Jean-Pierre, whatever her name is, his spokesperson sort of went with it

00:38:44.940 and just sort of confirmed that's how he feels.

00:38:50.020 Let me rate this for persuasion first.

00:38:52.960 All right, remember, if this were Trump, I would rate it for whether it's effective persuasion-wise

00:39:00.480 and separate from whether he should do it, right?

00:39:03.160 So I'm looking at the skill level separate from the ethics or, you know, whether you should do it or not.

00:39:08.940 And I'm going to give Biden an A-plus for persuasion.

00:39:13.660 I'm wondering if somebody's advising him, because all this stuff that people are complaining about,

00:39:21.360 I feel like it's working.

00:39:23.360 I feel like it's working.

00:39:24.640 And here's the problem.

00:39:26.520 So what Biden has done is he's created a confirmation bias trap

00:39:32.740 that the Republicans are just going to walk into.

00:39:35.500 And the trap is he's created this conversation about whether Republicans are indeed,

00:39:42.060 or any of them, the MAGA ones, whether or not they are semi-fascist.

00:39:48.140 Now, you say to yourself, that's not even a fair question.

00:39:50.800 Why are we even talking about that? 0.99

00:39:52.040 That's ridiculous. 0.84

00:39:53.440 But he's put it in the public. 0.89

00:39:55.060 All right, so from a persuasion perspective,

00:39:57.380 has he successfully put that in the public mind?

00:40:01.220 Yes.

00:40:01.620 Yes, so the first part of persuasion is he got your attention successfully,

00:40:06.800 and he created a, let's say, a structure that everybody has to react to, right?

00:40:12.660 So he's created the story, and the rest of us just have to react to it.

00:40:17.680 Persuasion-wise, A-plus.

00:40:20.500 Now, that's not saying how we react, because that could still go wrong.

00:40:25.100 But he's put it out there, he's created a structure, and we're reacting to it.

00:40:28.840 He's in charge.

00:40:29.560 If Trump had done this, I'd say, look at Trump controlling the narrative.

00:40:35.880 That's what Biden's doing.

00:40:37.620 The semi-fascist thing is kind of brilliant.

00:40:40.980 It's kind of brilliant.

00:40:42.600 If you think this is old man doddering, I don't think so.

00:40:47.440 This looks professional.

00:40:49.620 It looks like he was advised.

00:40:51.340 It looks like they had some testing of this or something.

00:40:54.500 And the reason that this is so brilliant is that it depends on future things.

00:41:02.220 That's where I think the professionals are involved.

00:41:06.480 Because it's a trap that isn't so important today.

00:41:11.160 It will become important when future events are wrapped into the narrative.

00:41:16.840 You got that, right?

00:41:17.640 So now anything that the Republicans say or do can get wrapped back into that narrative.

00:41:24.300 Is that something that Republicans have ever done to Democrats?

00:41:29.200 Can you think of a case where anybody on, let's say, the Trump side had done a similar...

00:41:36.640 Groomers, exactly.

00:41:39.500 Yeah, the groomer thing.

00:41:41.080 Because once you've started this narrative that Democrats are groomers,

00:41:45.700 then suddenly there's a whole bunch of stories that coincidentally fit into it, right?

00:41:50.880 That's a good one.

00:41:51.600 There's another one.

00:41:52.680 That's not the one I was thinking of.

00:41:54.700 Crooked Hillary. 1.00

00:41:55.720 That's a good one.

00:41:57.260 The Crooked Hillary is the perfect example.

00:41:59.020 And I think I talked about it at the time, if I recall.

00:42:01.320 Once you say Crooked Hillary, then anything that comes up that sounds a little sketchy

00:42:07.520 goes into the Crooked Hillary model, right?

00:42:11.360 There's another one.

00:42:13.720 There's one I did.

00:42:18.500 Do you not recognize it?

00:42:20.580 I did the same trick.

00:42:24.100 There you go.

00:42:25.280 You got it. 0.98

00:42:26.000 Republicans will be hunted. 0.99

00:42:28.860 Republicans will be hunted. 0.92

00:42:31.320 Do you see that?

00:42:33.120 That's exactly the same persuasion trick as semi-fascists. 0.87

00:42:38.420 When I said Republicans will be hunted, I'm specifically talking about the future.

00:42:44.280 Did I put that thought in a lot of people's heads?

00:42:48.680 Did I?

00:42:49.580 Did I put a narrative out there that people have to react to?

00:42:53.900 Yes, I did.

00:42:55.200 Even my critics react to it.

00:42:56.820 In fact, even today, somebody sent it to me and said,

00:42:58.900 it's not true.

00:42:59.940 You got this one wrong.

00:43:01.660 I'm making people debate whether Republicans are being hunted.

00:43:07.060 It's the debate that matters.

00:43:09.460 It's not what was happening when I said it.

00:43:11.740 It's the fact that I created a narrative that would be favorable for future events.

00:43:17.660 They would be fed into it.

00:43:19.200 Do you recognize this?

00:43:20.120 So you should recognize the technique, whether it comes from me or it comes from a politician.

00:43:27.500 That was technique.

00:43:30.040 That was very conscious technique.

00:43:32.140 And it's the same thing that Biden is using now.

00:43:36.040 And I think Crooked Hillary, either consciously or unconsciously, was the same strategy.

00:43:40.220 So learn to recognize this one.

00:43:43.440 When somebody proposes a narrative that you have to react to, they're building a confirmation bias trap.

00:43:50.320 And everything will get sucked into that narrative.

00:43:52.280 So that's what you're seeing now.

00:43:55.420 All right.

00:43:59.340 So persuasion-wise, A+.

00:44:01.040 And I even saw Harold Ford excusing, so if you don't know, Harold Ford appears on The Five quite often.

00:44:10.620 And I guess his brand, if you could put it that way, is reasonable Democrat.

00:44:18.840 So Harold Ford generally will agree with Republicans when they have a good point.

00:44:25.240 And he will disagree with them when they have a crazy point.

00:44:28.480 So in other words, he's trying to establish himself as the only reasonable person in the room.

00:44:34.460 And he does a good job of it, as a matter of fact.

00:44:36.600 And I would also give him a compliment that I thought when he started on The Five, he was a little stiff.

00:44:44.320 But I think largely with Greg Gottfeld's help and probably Jesse as well, he's loosened up.

00:44:52.560 So now he's like a much more interesting character on the thing.

00:44:57.220 So to Harold Ford, I'd say congratulations on an evolution to a strong player.

00:45:05.540 Very strong player on that show.

00:45:09.600 But even he excused the semi-fascist language as just campaign talk.

00:45:15.620 But he was reminded that this is not like regular campaign talk.

00:45:21.280 Normally Trump, for example, would go after sometimes a celebrity who went after him or a public figure.

00:45:29.320 But he didn't go after entire categories of citizens.

00:45:35.860 That's really out of line.

00:45:39.180 That's really, really out of line for a leader.

00:45:42.180 I mean, it's legal, the freedom of speech.

00:45:45.120 But it's definitely, you know, it's not the country I want to live in, right?

00:45:51.360 So to me, that degrades our experience a little bit.

00:45:56.260 But I suppose everything's been degrading lately, so it's not that different.

00:46:03.640 Anyway, and the most amazing thing I saw is, you know, I keep tracking CNN's evolution.

00:46:10.620 As they have stated, their attempt to be more middle of the road.

00:46:17.660 And the thing I've been watching to see if they're actually serious about that is their most vocal Republican slash Trump critics.

00:46:26.940 And one of them is Collinson, Stephen Collinson.

00:46:30.900 He usually does, well, he's one of like three or four people who do opinion pieces on CNN's website.

00:46:36.680 And usually those opinion pieces are just like, you know, crazy anti-Trump stuff.

00:46:42.980 And he actually said on CNN that Biden went too far with the semi-fascist thing.

00:46:51.760 Now, do you think you would have seen that six months ago?

00:46:55.920 Do you think that the most anti-Trump person would have said that the semi-fascist thing was a political mistake?

00:47:03.720 I mean, it feels to me like he's got the memo.

00:47:07.640 This actually looks like CNN is making a legitimate attempt to find the middle.

00:47:15.020 Now, are you going to be mad at me if I compliment them for that change?

00:47:21.100 Because we can be very skeptical, right?

00:47:24.580 It's still wait and see.

00:47:26.880 So if you say it's too soon, I agree with you, it's too soon.

00:47:30.200 But that is a signal.

00:47:31.400 I think this was a signal.

00:47:33.900 And it's a signal in the right direction.

00:47:35.500 So just keep watching.

00:47:38.440 You know, it's a tough thing for them to do.

00:47:40.340 Remember, finding the middle is largely impossible for anybody.

00:47:45.880 Because nobody agrees where the middle is.

00:47:47.840 But you can tell effort, right?

00:47:52.880 We'll know if they're trying to find the middle.

00:47:55.640 If they try to find the middle and you can see the effort, but in your opinion, they're not finding the middle, that's a different criticism.

00:48:03.220 Because nobody's going to agree what the middle is.

00:48:04.960 So I'm going to actually throw some support toward their new leader, CEO.

00:48:11.020 Is it Licht or Liked?

00:48:13.320 L-I-C-H-T? 0.83

00:48:15.780 How do you pronounce that?

00:48:17.060 Licht or Liked?

00:48:19.020 Light?

00:48:21.220 Licht?

00:48:23.600 I don't know.

00:48:24.060 Whatever it is.

00:48:24.760 I apologize if I got it wrong.

00:48:26.480 But I respect that.

00:48:27.500 I respect that something real seems to be happening there.

00:48:31.460 Actual progress.

00:48:35.720 I guess we have to talk about Trump's boxes. 0.99

00:48:41.860 Does it seem to you like the dumbest story? 1.00

00:48:45.300 Trump's boxes? 1.00

00:48:46.220 All right.

00:48:49.780 People are telling me different pronunciations for the CEO of CNN, so I guess it's an open question.

00:48:57.040 We don't know.

00:48:58.420 All right.

00:48:58.880 Well, let's talk about Trump's boxes.

00:49:01.340 And I always like to look for the thing that we're not being told.

00:49:05.440 So what is the main thing we're not being told about those boxes?

00:49:11.280 Name the things that we're not being told.

00:49:13.840 Go ahead.

00:49:16.220 Who leaked it?

00:49:18.700 Right.

00:49:19.020 Who leaked?

00:49:21.440 Who packed them?

00:49:23.620 Right.

00:49:23.820 Who packed them?

00:49:25.420 But also, who is in charge of giving back?

00:49:29.880 Right.

00:49:31.280 So here are some things that we have learned.

00:49:36.800 So I guess the federal prosecutors said they're going to wait until after November election

00:49:41.100 to announce any charges against Trump if they determined he broke the laws. 0.98

00:49:47.440 What a fucked up way to report the news. 0.99

00:49:51.560 Here's a better way to report it. 0.99

00:49:54.000 Trump has not been charged with anything.

00:49:55.920 Am I right?

00:49:58.340 The news is Trump has not been charged with anything.

00:50:02.140 And if you asked experts, they'd say you probably won't be.

00:50:05.760 Am I right?

00:50:07.320 That feels like the accurate way to say this.

00:50:10.040 But here's how Bloomberg said it.

00:50:12.440 Federal prosecutors are likely to wait until after November election to announce any charges

00:50:17.340 against Donald Trump.

00:50:19.880 Doesn't that make you think like they have the charges and it's likely to happen?

00:50:25.040 And then it goes, if they determined he broke laws.

00:50:27.940 If.

00:50:28.420 So they put the if he broke laws at the end.

00:50:32.560 How about putting that at the start of the sentence?

00:50:36.040 How about if they find he broke any laws, we wouldn't know about it until November.

00:50:42.040 But no laws have been found to be broken or something like that.

00:50:45.600 Although you could argue that they have found broken laws.

00:50:47.940 I don't know.

00:50:48.860 So we don't know enough to know if they found anything.

00:50:51.840 But here's my biggest question.

00:50:55.040 Who was the GSA dealing with on the Trump staff who was not giving them what they wanted?

00:51:02.000 Now, I know that lawyers signed off on things.

00:51:05.520 So we learned that, for example, Trump lawyer Christina Bob signed a document certifying

00:51:13.920 on behalf of Trump's office that all of the documents had been returned, though that was not true.

00:51:18.780 Now, what happens if Trump's lawyer signed something saying all the documents had been returned,

00:51:27.100 but Trump had never signed anything?

00:51:31.580 Does Trump go to jail if the lawyer said they had been returned and Trump was silent on the question?

00:51:37.960 Does Trump go to jail for that?

00:51:39.800 If your lawyer says something's been done legally, you don't know one way or the other because you're not down there at the boxes.

00:51:47.680 Now, do you think that Trump could have asked the lawyer to lie and then the lawyer would lie on this question?

00:51:56.280 What do you think?

00:51:57.400 Do you think you could get a lawyer who could work at this level?

00:52:00.920 I mean, an ex-president's lawyer's got to have some credentials.

00:52:04.960 I don't think you can.

00:52:06.980 I don't believe you could get a lawyer to lie about something so easily disproven.

00:52:11.860 You might be able to get a lawyer to lie about something that can't be proven one way or the other.

00:52:17.340 I'll give you that.

00:52:19.280 But this is something that could have easily been determined to be a lie.

00:52:24.540 It seems far more likely.

00:52:27.640 It seems far more likely.

00:52:29.340 Now, you're mentioning lawyers who have lied.

00:52:33.900 That's different.

00:52:35.940 Lawyers who lie, probably not that uncommon.

00:52:39.640 Lawyers who are being asked to lie by their client when they know the lie will almost certainly be detected.

00:52:47.740 I don't know that that happens very often.

00:52:50.220 That feels like a rare thing to me. 0.96

00:52:54.500 Now, yeah, granted, they're professional liars,

00:52:56.400 but they lie when they won't get caught or that it's perfectly legal,

00:53:01.560 you know, say, within a court or something.

00:53:04.260 I don't think they lie when they know they're going to get caught, do they?

00:53:07.800 And it's not even for their benefit.

00:53:09.420 It's for their client's benefit.

00:53:12.500 I don't know.

00:53:13.240 I suppose I could be educated on that topic.

00:53:17.920 But to me, this looks like a glaring signal of a bureaucratic problem,

00:53:24.440 meaning that not everybody knew what was happening.

00:53:28.400 Was the lawyer personally going through the boxes?

00:53:30.980 Probably not.

00:53:33.520 Probably not.

00:53:35.060 Who was?

00:53:36.480 Who was the person whose hands and eyes,

00:53:40.660 in Mar-a-Lago,

00:53:41.800 not where they were packed at the White House,

00:53:43.860 but in Mar-a-Lago,

00:53:45.260 whose hands and eyes were primarily the person handling the boxes?

00:53:49.800 Because whoever's hands and eyes were primarily handling the boxes

00:53:53.240 is whoever told the lawyer,

00:53:55.840 you got them all.

00:53:56.500 I would say that in the end,

00:54:00.500 we're going to find out somebody was just mistaken.

00:54:05.360 There's going to be all this gray area.

00:54:07.600 It's going to look like this.

00:54:08.800 Here's my prediction.

00:54:11.480 Some of it will be described by the lawyer

00:54:13.940 thinking they had given everything back,

00:54:15.900 but just being wrong.

00:54:18.380 See if you disagree with any of these.

00:54:20.920 So these are several assumptions building a story.

00:54:24.020 Number one,

00:54:24.640 the lawyer will be shown to be just mistaken.

00:54:28.120 The lawyer asked somebody,

00:54:29.780 somebody said,

00:54:30.380 yeah,

00:54:30.780 we gave them all back.

00:54:32.220 So the lawyer says,

00:54:33.080 yeah,

00:54:33.260 I'll sign it,

00:54:33.760 we gave them all back.

00:54:34.740 But the lawyer did not personally check,

00:54:37.900 and I'm guessing that Trump was not the source

00:54:41.460 of saying they'd all been given back.

00:54:43.920 Or if he was,

00:54:45.480 he was mistaken.

00:54:47.200 Right?

00:54:48.000 So basically,

00:54:49.140 it's going to be people who were mistaken

00:54:50.680 about what they'd given back.

00:54:51.960 How common would that be

00:54:53.980 in a normal situation

00:54:55.180 where somebody's trying to get everything

00:54:57.220 from somebody else?

00:54:58.720 Have you ever,

00:54:59.340 have you ever had a divorce?

00:55:01.120 Anybody ever have a divorce?

00:55:05.600 And the process of,

00:55:07.000 you know,

00:55:08.120 dividing stuff up

00:55:09.420 is messy,

00:55:11.020 and people are mistaken,

00:55:12.920 and they,

00:55:13.260 they say,

00:55:14.100 I gave it to you.

00:55:15.340 You know,

00:55:15.600 where,

00:55:15.820 where are those photographs of the kids?

00:55:18.060 You know,

00:55:18.260 when they were young.

00:55:19.260 I already gave them to you.

00:55:20.860 No,

00:55:21.140 you didn't.

00:55:22.000 I definitely did.

00:55:24.080 Here's a picture of me

00:55:25.060 handing you the photos.

00:55:26.660 Yeah,

00:55:26.840 but they're not all of them.

00:55:28.260 Yeah,

00:55:28.440 they are all of them.

00:55:29.500 But they're not all of them.

00:55:30.880 Yes,

00:55:31.120 they are.

00:55:31.940 I gave you everything I have.

00:55:33.700 And then a month later,

00:55:34.580 you find some more.

00:55:35.480 You go, 1.00

00:55:35.660 oh shit, 1.00

00:55:36.140 you were right, 1.00

00:55:36.540 I had some more.

00:55:37.980 How often does that happen?

00:55:40.020 All the time.

00:55:40.940 It's the most common thing in the world.

00:55:42.220 So whenever you look at this Trump boxes stuff,

00:55:45.680 ask yourself,

00:55:47.980 is the narrative you're given

00:55:49.660 the most likely explanation

00:55:51.960 or the least likely?

00:55:54.520 And the narrative that we're being given about this

00:55:56.740 is by far the least likely possibility.

00:56:00.300 The least likely possibility

00:56:02.000 is he took a bunch of

00:56:04.020 highly sensitive documents,

00:56:07.240 was completely aware of it,

00:56:09.660 liked to sometimes play with them in his office

00:56:11.800 and show them to people.

00:56:13.460 Maybe he was going to sell some of them

00:56:14.840 or had some way to financially gain.

00:56:17.200 Completely knew that he was doing something wrong

00:56:19.300 and just lied and told his lawyers,

00:56:21.660 ah,

00:56:21.840 just say we don't have any

00:56:23.240 and thought he'd get away with it.

00:56:25.460 By far,

00:56:26.160 that's the least likely possibility.

00:56:28.760 Compare that to

00:56:29.640 they thought they gave him back,

00:56:32.200 but there were some they didn't give back

00:56:34.140 or there was a miscommunication.

00:56:36.760 Now,

00:56:36.940 what about the ones that were in Trump's office?

00:56:39.900 There's also going to be

00:56:41.020 another gray area

00:56:42.060 about how secret any of it was.

00:56:47.780 Chances are,

00:56:48.620 the stuff that actually was in his office

00:56:50.640 may be less sensitive

00:56:53.040 than things that were not in his office.

00:56:55.180 Don't know that,

00:56:56.680 but it could be.

00:56:59.040 Now,

00:57:00.020 how much penalty would he get

00:57:02.620 if it was in his office

00:57:03.800 and it should have been in a more secure place?

00:57:07.000 It depends how sensitive it was.

00:57:08.260 Do you think he has nuclear secrets

00:57:10.420 sitting in his office?

00:57:11.820 Like,

00:57:12.120 just in a drawer?

00:57:13.780 I doubt it.

00:57:15.180 How about

00:57:15.600 something that would get 0.98

00:57:17.300 CIA people killed?

00:57:20.300 Probably not.

00:57:22.360 But could it be something

00:57:23.640 that somebody once thought

00:57:24.880 was sensitive

00:57:25.900 but maybe isn't so sensitive anymore

00:57:27.880 and it's just interesting?

00:57:29.700 Maybe.

00:57:29.980 I mean,

00:57:31.240 it's going to be

00:57:31.540 all kinds of gray areas

00:57:32.760 of who said what.

00:57:33.920 It's not going to be

00:57:34.500 some clean crime.

00:57:37.400 It's definitely not going to be that.

00:57:40.220 All right.

00:57:41.480 And did you know

00:57:42.500 this will be a test

00:57:43.500 to see if you're in a bubble?

00:57:46.160 Bubble test.

00:57:46.940 You ready?

00:57:47.860 So most of you read

00:57:49.280 right-leaning news,

00:57:52.580 probably,

00:57:53.060 if you're on this live stream.

00:57:54.800 Let's see if you are aware

00:57:55.900 of this fact

00:57:56.600 that comes to us

00:57:57.380 from Daniel Dale

00:57:58.360 at CNN.

00:58:01.240 Who do you think

00:58:02.700 packed up

00:58:03.380 the boxes?

00:58:07.480 Here's my question to you.

00:58:09.360 Test your news.

00:58:10.240 Who packed up

00:58:10.940 the boxes

00:58:11.460 at the White House?

00:58:16.420 GSA,

00:58:17.020 people are saying.

00:58:18.160 GSA.

00:58:19.680 GSA.

00:58:22.180 GSA.

00:58:23.340 Now,

00:58:23.880 why do you say the GSA?

00:58:26.780 Is that because

00:58:27.620 that's your narrative,

00:58:28.500 right?

00:58:30.980 Daniel Dale says

00:58:32.040 the GSA did not

00:58:33.260 pack up those boxes

00:58:34.260 and that Trump's

00:58:35.780 staff packed them.

00:58:38.780 How's that change

00:58:39.680 your narrative?

00:58:41.660 Suddenly,

00:58:42.280 it's different,

00:58:42.720 isn't it?

00:58:43.700 Because I've been

00:58:44.820 laboring under

00:58:45.680 the misinterpretation

00:58:48.160 or the misimpression

00:58:49.120 that the GSA

00:58:51.000 packed them,

00:58:52.120 which would change

00:58:53.500 everything.

00:58:54.440 Am I right?

00:58:55.160 If the GSA

00:58:56.620 packed it,

00:58:58.080 then the GSA

00:58:59.060 has some explaining.

00:59:00.760 If they didn't

00:59:01.760 pack it,

00:59:02.520 then Trump

00:59:02.900 has a lot

00:59:03.380 of explaining.

00:59:05.240 The GSA

00:59:06.040 didn't pack it.

00:59:07.560 It was

00:59:07.960 Trump's

00:59:08.540 staff,

00:59:09.800 which means

00:59:10.640 Trump has

00:59:11.160 some explaining

00:59:11.780 to do.

00:59:12.800 Now,

00:59:13.200 here's the other

00:59:13.600 thing missing.

00:59:15.220 Trump has never

00:59:15.960 explained why

00:59:16.660 they exist.

00:59:19.300 Sort of missing,

00:59:20.580 isn't it?

00:59:21.720 Don't you think

00:59:22.320 if there was

00:59:22.760 some easy story,

00:59:24.880 like a simple

00:59:25.660 explanation,

00:59:27.040 you would have

00:59:28.380 already heard it,

00:59:29.900 right?

00:59:30.760 So the thing

00:59:31.500 we know for sure

00:59:32.240 is there's not

00:59:32.780 a simple explanation,

00:59:34.520 unless it's some

00:59:35.820 kind of elaborate

00:59:36.520 trap to draw

00:59:38.060 the Democrats

00:59:38.640 into an accusation

00:59:40.580 that later

00:59:41.100 falls apart.

00:59:42.480 But that would

00:59:43.160 be a bad trap

00:59:44.000 because people

00:59:44.680 are going to

00:59:44.980 believe the accusation

00:59:46.040 even if it got

00:59:46.760 debunked.

00:59:48.080 So it would be

00:59:48.800 a terrible trap

00:59:49.720 because even

00:59:52.620 if the trap

00:59:53.280 got sprung

00:59:54.020 just the way

00:59:54.820 he wanted,

00:59:55.740 the public

00:59:56.260 would still think

00:59:57.000 he'd done

00:59:57.320 the bad thing

00:59:58.000 because they'd

00:59:59.700 never know

01:00:00.060 the debunk,

01:00:00.680 they'd just see

01:00:01.140 the original claims.

01:00:02.680 Claims would be

01:00:03.420 bigger than the

01:00:03.940 debunk.

01:00:04.480 So it would be

01:00:04.920 a terrible trap.

01:00:06.860 I reject the idea

01:00:08.280 that it's some

01:00:08.760 kind of a clever

01:00:09.460 trap.

01:00:10.600 That doesn't

01:00:11.120 make sense.

01:00:13.360 But I also

01:00:13.960 reject,

01:00:15.440 I now,

01:00:16.280 as of today,

01:00:17.000 I reject

01:00:17.800 the following

01:00:18.800 hypothesis.

01:00:20.420 I reject

01:00:21.300 the following

01:00:21.800 hypothesis.

01:00:23.200 It was

01:00:23.620 completely innocent

01:00:24.480 and there's

01:00:25.340 just an obvious

01:00:26.400 explanation for

01:00:27.260 why it's all

01:00:27.700 there.

01:00:29.800 Whatever is

01:00:30.620 going on

01:00:31.260 is not,

01:00:33.780 it's sketchy.

01:00:37.400 Now,

01:00:39.080 nobody has

01:00:40.200 defended

01:00:40.680 Trump's ways

01:00:42.880 harder than I

01:00:43.780 have.

01:00:44.020 but we're

01:00:46.020 at the

01:00:46.380 point in

01:00:46.760 the narrative

01:00:47.200 where if

01:00:47.920 he doesn't

01:00:48.420 give us

01:00:48.840 a narrative

01:00:49.280 that explains

01:00:50.760 what we've

01:00:51.260 seen so

01:00:51.720 far,

01:00:53.120 you have

01:00:53.780 to assume

01:00:54.280 that there's

01:00:55.020 no easy

01:00:55.660 explanation.

01:00:57.940 Right?

01:01:00.460 But would

01:01:01.260 you accept

01:01:01.720 that?

01:01:02.480 That if

01:01:02.860 Trump doesn't

01:01:03.580 give you

01:01:04.000 any explanation

01:01:04.920 for why

01:01:05.460 that stuff

01:01:05.940 is in

01:01:06.480 fact at

01:01:07.180 Mar-a-Lago,

01:01:08.420 because I

01:01:08.920 think that

01:01:09.280 looks like a

01:01:09.820 fact.

01:01:10.820 I don't

01:01:11.340 think the

01:01:11.740 FBI planted

01:01:12.560 that seems

01:01:14.620 unlikely.

01:01:16.540 He needs

01:01:17.260 to give us

01:01:18.160 a reason.

01:01:20.520 I'd also

01:01:21.200 like to

01:01:21.600 know if

01:01:22.100 the documents

01:01:22.700 are all

01:01:23.060 on the

01:01:23.280 same topic.

01:01:30.860 All right.

01:01:31.960 Let's get 0.99

01:01:32.580 rid of you. 0.99

01:01:33.000 Are you 0.97

01:01:39.160 wondering if

01:01:39.860 are these

01:01:41.440 top secret

01:01:42.040 documents

01:01:42.660 just all

01:01:43.580 over the

01:01:43.960 board?

01:01:44.920 Or were

01:01:45.540 there some

01:01:45.960 topics that

01:01:46.560 he had

01:01:46.860 more interest

01:01:47.460 in?

01:01:49.080 Maybe there

01:01:49.660 was some

01:01:49.940 topic that

01:01:51.040 maybe it

01:01:54.460 cleared him

01:01:55.880 of some

01:01:56.260 accusations.

01:01:57.140 Maybe it

01:01:57.580 was about

01:01:57.780 Russiagate,

01:01:58.440 something like

01:01:58.780 that.

01:02:00.560 All right.

01:02:01.040 Here's another

01:02:01.440 one.

01:02:01.600 I'm going

01:02:01.860 to test

01:02:02.220 you to

01:02:02.600 see if

01:02:02.860 you know

01:02:03.120 this.

01:02:04.440 Is it

01:02:04.820 true that

01:02:05.300 Obama took

01:02:07.000 thousands and

01:02:07.980 thousands of

01:02:08.680 documents with

01:02:10.720 him and

01:02:11.520 didn't get in

01:02:12.120 trouble?

01:02:13.420 True or

01:02:13.860 false?

01:02:14.340 Obama took

01:02:15.100 documents to

01:02:16.960 look at your

01:02:19.420 comments.

01:02:20.060 Some yeses,

01:02:20.740 some noes.

01:02:23.220 Some yeses,

01:02:24.160 some noes.

01:02:25.320 Now, you

01:02:26.240 should feel bad

01:02:27.180 if you're not

01:02:27.860 positive about

01:02:28.740 this answer,

01:02:29.740 because it's

01:02:30.120 so important.

01:02:30.660 If it were

01:02:32.340 true that

01:02:32.840 Obama did

01:02:33.460 the same

01:02:33.860 thing,

01:02:34.760 doesn't that

01:02:35.260 completely

01:02:35.680 change the

01:02:36.220 story?

01:02:37.560 So if

01:02:38.280 that's true,

01:02:39.880 then this is

01:02:40.860 nothing but a

01:02:41.420 political attack.

01:02:43.160 Right?

01:02:44.580 But the truth

01:02:45.480 is that Obama

01:02:46.220 did not take

01:02:47.080 any documents

01:02:47.960 outside of

01:02:48.700 procedures.

01:02:50.260 They're still

01:02:51.020 in the

01:02:51.320 government

01:02:51.600 possession,

01:02:52.400 they're just

01:02:52.800 in a different

01:02:53.840 facility,

01:02:54.540 under government

01:02:55.360 possession.

01:02:56.260 So Obama

01:02:56.960 doesn't have

01:02:57.380 possession of

01:02:57.900 any of that

01:02:58.260 stuff.

01:02:58.500 So if

01:02:59.740 you believe

01:03:00.200 the narrative

01:03:00.700 that Obama

01:03:01.480 took thousands

01:03:02.340 or millions

01:03:02.900 of documents

01:03:03.600 and they're

01:03:04.600 in his

01:03:04.880 possession,

01:03:05.600 that never

01:03:06.080 happened.

01:03:07.140 They were

01:03:07.360 moved to

01:03:07.720 another

01:03:07.960 facility,

01:03:08.780 also under

01:03:09.380 government

01:03:09.820 control.

01:03:13.560 Bill Clinton

01:03:14.380 had something

01:03:14.920 in his sock

01:03:15.460 drawer, but

01:03:16.100 I don't know

01:03:17.000 if that's a,

01:03:18.400 I don't know

01:03:18.820 if that

01:03:19.240 analogy works.

01:03:22.320 Now,

01:03:22.940 how about

01:03:23.200 this?

01:03:23.540 does President

01:03:25.860 Trump own

01:03:26.900 any documents

01:03:28.820 he chooses

01:03:29.540 to take?

01:03:31.340 Let's say

01:03:31.940 they were

01:03:32.280 personal,

01:03:33.140 sort of

01:03:33.500 personal messages

01:03:34.280 but done

01:03:34.860 in the office.

01:03:37.180 Does he

01:03:37.860 own anything,

01:03:38.960 just automatically?

01:03:40.720 Does Trump

01:03:41.600 own anything,

01:03:42.940 let's say

01:03:43.360 he just

01:03:44.080 decided he

01:03:44.900 owned it

01:03:45.200 or he

01:03:45.520 declassified it?

01:03:46.760 The answer

01:03:47.240 is no.

01:03:48.160 Trump owns

01:03:48.920 zero of

01:03:50.660 those documents,

01:03:51.700 which is

01:03:52.760 different from

01:03:53.320 being able

01:03:53.740 to take

01:03:54.060 a picture

01:03:54.860 of it,

01:03:55.160 I guess.

01:03:58.200 Now,

01:03:58.960 do you know

01:03:59.340 what's the

01:03:59.740 next thing

01:04:00.240 I'm expecting?

01:04:04.780 Oh my

01:04:05.420 God.

01:04:07.160 I just

01:04:07.840 realized

01:04:08.160 what's

01:04:08.460 coming.

01:04:09.960 Oh my

01:04:10.700 God.

01:04:12.140 Do you

01:04:12.680 know what

01:04:12.900 they could

01:04:13.200 ask for?

01:04:14.640 They,

01:04:15.280 the FBI?

01:04:16.980 They could

01:04:17.640 ask for

01:04:18.140 the phones

01:04:18.880 of every

01:04:19.420 person who

01:04:19.960 was in

01:04:20.280 Mar-a-Lago.

01:04:21.700 Right?

01:04:26.100 Am I

01:04:26.540 wrong?

01:04:27.940 They could

01:04:28.320 ask for

01:04:28.860 the phone

01:04:29.420 of every

01:04:30.240 person who

01:04:30.720 was in

01:04:30.960 Mar-a-Lago

01:04:31.440 because phones

01:04:32.660 can take

01:04:33.140 pictures and

01:04:34.520 anybody who

01:04:35.000 had access to

01:04:35.600 these documents

01:04:36.180 could have

01:04:36.520 taken a

01:04:36.880 picture.

01:04:41.500 And that

01:04:42.080 would include

01:04:42.540 Trump's,

01:04:43.360 any inner

01:04:44.560 circle Trump

01:04:45.520 people.

01:04:46.480 They could

01:04:46.840 get all of

01:04:47.360 their phones

01:04:47.860 and look at

01:04:48.480 everything on

01:04:49.080 there.

01:04:50.140 Now,

01:04:50.420 legally,

01:04:50.920 they're not

01:04:51.160 allowed to

01:04:51.520 look at

01:04:51.800 everything

01:04:52.160 on there.

01:04:53.160 But they

01:04:53.480 would.

01:04:55.040 They would.

01:04:58.200 Has anybody

01:04:58.960 mentioned that

01:04:59.540 yet?

01:05:00.980 And is

01:05:01.920 there a

01:05:02.580 lawyer on

01:05:03.080 here who

01:05:03.460 can tell

01:05:04.020 me if I'm

01:05:04.440 crazy?

01:05:05.620 And again,

01:05:06.400 when I ask

01:05:06.940 you for

01:05:07.640 lawyer advice,

01:05:08.720 say,

01:05:09.200 lawyer,

01:05:10.420 you know,

01:05:10.820 say,

01:05:11.360 I'm a

01:05:11.680 lawyer,

01:05:12.680 and then

01:05:13.100 tell me

01:05:13.500 your answer.

01:05:14.920 Lawyer,

01:05:15.800 colon,

01:05:17.060 yes,

01:05:17.460 they can

01:05:17.760 grab the

01:05:18.180 phones or

01:05:18.560 not.

01:05:18.780 can't do

01:05:21.560 it unless

01:05:21.900 there's

01:05:22.140 evidence they

01:05:22.740 did.

01:05:24.460 Are you

01:05:25.020 telling me

01:05:25.600 that in

01:05:26.540 the context

01:05:27.180 of top

01:05:27.860 secret

01:05:28.420 security

01:05:30.140 documents

01:05:30.860 that had

01:05:32.380 been,

01:05:34.080 let me ask

01:05:34.840 you this,

01:05:35.560 if somebody

01:05:36.220 went into

01:05:36.660 the SCIF

01:05:37.200 and brought

01:05:37.640 their phone

01:05:38.240 and then

01:05:40.000 it was

01:05:40.720 known to

01:05:41.100 have

01:05:41.240 happened,

01:05:42.580 could law

01:05:43.320 enforcement

01:05:43.860 force them

01:05:44.880 to give

01:05:45.160 up their

01:05:45.460 phone?

01:05:45.700 They need

01:05:48.400 a warrant,

01:05:48.920 of course,

01:05:49.580 yes.

01:05:50.560 But could

01:05:51.000 you get a

01:05:51.400 warrant for

01:05:51.780 that?

01:05:52.700 Let's say

01:05:53.220 you knew

01:05:53.680 the SCIF

01:05:54.260 took his

01:05:54.820 phone in,

01:05:55.760 if you knew

01:05:56.360 the SCIF

01:05:57.020 took his

01:05:58.340 phone into

01:05:59.100 a SCIF,

01:05:59.880 which I

01:06:00.280 don't believe

01:06:00.680 has happened,

01:06:01.500 but if you

01:06:01.940 knew it

01:06:02.200 happened,

01:06:03.720 could they

01:06:04.160 say,

01:06:04.860 oh,

01:06:05.100 we need

01:06:05.620 that phone

01:06:06.000 now?

01:06:08.320 Right?

01:06:09.120 And what's

01:06:09.720 the difference

01:06:10.120 between that

01:06:10.800 and somebody

01:06:11.300 having a

01:06:11.780 phone around

01:06:12.420 those secret

01:06:13.020 documents in

01:06:13.700 Mar-a-Lago?

01:06:14.160 Yeah,

01:06:18.040 with the

01:06:18.280 Russian

01:06:18.500 investigation

01:06:19.160 they did.

01:06:20.380 I realize

01:06:21.100 there's no

01:06:21.680 phones allowed

01:06:22.380 in the SCIF,

01:06:23.160 but I'm

01:06:23.460 saying if

01:06:24.020 he snuck

01:06:24.500 one in,

01:06:25.400 would they

01:06:26.040 be able

01:06:26.280 to take

01:06:26.620 it out?

01:06:31.140 The areas

01:06:31.960 the docks

01:06:32.400 were stored

01:06:32.880 in were

01:06:33.380 funded by

01:06:33.920 the government

01:06:34.380 and protected

01:06:35.000 by secret

01:06:35.560 service?

01:06:39.480 Yeah,

01:06:40.100 I don't know,

01:06:40.420 that might

01:06:40.680 be a gray

01:06:41.120 area,

01:06:41.540 too.

01:06:44.160 Oh,

01:06:45.520 in the

01:06:45.780 SCIF,

01:06:46.220 your

01:06:46.400 sign-in

01:06:46.920 doc gives

01:06:48.220 up your

01:06:48.540 rights,

01:06:48.920 yeah,

01:06:49.160 probably.

01:06:53.980 All right.

01:06:56.560 Let's see,

01:06:57.120 what else

01:06:57.420 do we not

01:06:57.800 know about

01:06:58.220 that?

01:07:02.200 Yeah,

01:07:02.720 not much.

01:07:03.660 I saw

01:07:03.960 an estimate

01:07:04.380 from a

01:07:05.220 not credible

01:07:06.380 source that

01:07:07.460 Russia may

01:07:09.200 have lost

01:07:09.640 40% of its

01:07:10.640 tanks in

01:07:11.900 Ukraine,

01:07:12.280 but 40%

01:07:14.120 of its

01:07:14.440 tanks

01:07:14.820 doesn't

01:07:15.480 mean much

01:07:15.960 because

01:07:16.740 Russia

01:07:17.000 could make

01:07:17.320 a lot

01:07:17.540 of tanks

01:07:17.900 and they

01:07:18.460 don't know

01:07:18.720 how many

01:07:18.980 they have

01:07:19.280 in reserve

01:07:19.740 and how

01:07:20.340 many are

01:07:20.660 in storage

01:07:22.760 that could 0.68

01:07:23.200 be put

01:07:23.960 back in

01:07:24.320 action in

01:07:24.780 that.

01:07:26.960 So,

01:07:27.580 I don't

01:07:27.860 know if

01:07:28.060 it's 40%,

01:07:28.820 but even

01:07:32.100 the article

01:07:32.560 that said

01:07:32.920 they lost

01:07:33.280 40%

01:07:33.980 says it

01:07:34.640 wouldn't

01:07:34.980 slow them

01:07:35.440 down.

01:07:36.300 So,

01:07:36.560 there's

01:07:36.880 nothing in

01:07:37.320 terms of

01:07:37.680 tank losses

01:07:38.460 that will

01:07:39.780 change the

01:07:40.420 direction of

01:07:41.040 the war.

01:07:42.280 At this

01:07:42.900 point.

01:07:44.260 Yeah,

01:07:44.500 they have

01:07:45.060 maybe tens

01:07:46.040 of thousands

01:07:46.500 in storage,

01:07:47.460 but maybe

01:07:48.280 not operational

01:07:49.140 and maybe

01:07:49.800 they couldn't

01:07:50.400 be made

01:07:50.860 operational.

01:07:51.940 Because if

01:07:52.300 they've been

01:07:52.560 in storage

01:07:52.920 for a long

01:07:53.340 time,

01:07:53.620 it's hard

01:07:53.880 to make

01:07:54.660 them operational.

01:07:56.920 Yeah,

01:07:57.300 I think it's

01:07:57.660 the World

01:07:57.980 War II

01:07:58.340 stuff they

01:07:58.840 have.

01:08:04.040 Fitton

01:08:04.480 versus

01:08:04.800 Clinton

01:08:05.300 case law,

01:08:05.960 the president

01:08:06.380 decides what

01:08:07.260 is or is

01:08:07.980 not personal.

01:08:12.280 But not

01:08:12.780 in terms

01:08:13.100 of a

01:08:13.340 document.

01:08:17.580 All right.

01:08:20.960 Tank

01:08:21.440 drivers.

01:08:23.160 All right.

01:08:24.140 So,

01:08:24.600 let me tell

01:08:25.000 you a little

01:08:26.200 anecdote from

01:08:27.200 yesterday about

01:08:29.400 how things

01:08:31.060 work.

01:08:32.720 Two stories.

01:08:34.220 Number one,

01:08:34.860 I've been

01:08:35.140 trying to sign

01:08:35.720 up for

01:08:36.440 Medicare.

01:08:37.120 because I'm

01:08:38.640 at that age,

01:08:39.380 you have to

01:08:39.680 make those

01:08:40.040 decisions.

01:08:40.820 And all it

01:08:41.200 really does

01:08:41.600 is lower my

01:08:42.680 health care

01:08:43.080 costs.

01:08:43.700 So I'm in

01:08:44.040 the Kaiser

01:08:44.480 facility.

01:08:46.380 Do you know

01:08:46.800 how hard it

01:08:47.360 is to sign

01:08:48.040 up for

01:08:48.300 Medicare?

01:08:50.520 Here's how

01:08:51.100 I thought

01:08:51.580 it would be.

01:08:53.000 I thought

01:08:53.460 Kaiser and

01:08:54.160 my health

01:08:54.480 care facility

01:08:55.340 would say,

01:08:55.940 hey,

01:08:56.100 you're 65.

01:08:57.320 If you

01:08:57.860 check this

01:08:58.320 box,

01:08:59.580 we'll put

01:09:00.120 you on

01:09:00.560 Medicare,

01:09:01.100 but everything's

01:09:01.600 the same.

01:09:02.700 All your

01:09:03.120 service is

01:09:03.680 the same.

01:09:04.960 Just check

01:09:05.520 this box,

01:09:06.260 we know

01:09:06.560 you're 65,

01:09:07.600 boom,

01:09:07.940 you got

01:09:08.180 Medicare.

01:09:09.460 That's what

01:09:09.840 I thought.

01:09:11.260 Could you

01:09:11.600 see any

01:09:11.940 reason it

01:09:12.340 wouldn't be

01:09:12.640 that?

01:09:14.040 But it

01:09:14.300 turns out

01:09:14.780 Kaiser has,

01:09:16.240 they call

01:09:17.060 it senior

01:09:17.580 care.

01:09:18.760 So if

01:09:19.140 you're trying

01:09:19.440 to Google

01:09:19.960 or figure

01:09:20.480 out how

01:09:21.080 to do

01:09:21.360 it,

01:09:21.940 you can't

01:09:22.360 find it.

01:09:23.800 Because it's

01:09:24.700 just hard to

01:09:25.260 Google.

01:09:25.900 You have to

01:09:27.240 dig down

01:09:27.640 layers.

01:09:27.980 So you

01:09:28.200 can't find

01:09:28.880 it.

01:09:30.160 So I

01:09:32.000 would like

01:09:32.300 to present

01:09:32.720 myself as a

01:09:33.800 higher

01:09:34.160 functioning

01:09:34.680 senior.

01:09:36.560 I still

01:09:37.820 do my

01:09:38.220 job.

01:09:39.360 I can

01:09:39.700 still

01:09:39.920 read.

01:09:41.240 I could

01:09:41.700 not figure

01:09:42.260 out how

01:09:42.720 to sign

01:09:43.040 up for

01:09:43.280 Medicare.

01:09:43.820 So here's

01:09:44.160 the complexity.

01:09:45.260 There's part

01:09:45.700 A, B,

01:09:46.500 and D,

01:09:47.520 all with

01:09:47.960 different

01:09:48.300 characteristics,

01:09:49.200 and there's

01:09:49.520 no guide,

01:09:50.340 no guide,

01:09:51.460 to tell you

01:09:52.040 which one

01:09:52.340 to sign

01:09:52.640 up for.

01:09:53.920 I thought,

01:09:54.640 well,

01:09:55.020 something will

01:09:56.040 say,

01:09:56.460 if you're

01:09:56.700 this kind

01:09:57.120 of person,

01:09:58.280 use this

01:09:58.780 one,

01:09:59.120 or if you're

01:09:59.480 this kind

01:09:59.840 of person,

01:10:00.300 nope.

01:10:01.480 Nope.

01:10:02.500 Nothing like

01:10:03.120 that.

01:10:03.740 They're

01:10:03.940 just

01:10:04.140 different

01:10:04.500 things,

01:10:05.280 and you

01:10:05.620 don't know

01:10:06.020 which one

01:10:06.380 you would

01:10:06.640 want,

01:10:07.220 and you

01:10:08.380 can't find

01:10:08.780 out.

01:10:09.980 So,

01:10:10.400 now later,

01:10:11.060 if you talk

01:10:11.540 to somebody,

01:10:12.000 you can find

01:10:12.460 out,

01:10:12.720 right?

01:10:13.720 But you're

01:10:14.300 still guessing.

01:10:15.740 So one of

01:10:16.280 them,

01:10:16.480 you have

01:10:16.680 higher co-pays,

01:10:18.840 and one has

01:10:19.200 lower co-pays,

01:10:20.180 but you're

01:10:20.520 basically guessing

01:10:21.420 which one's

01:10:21.960 right for you.

01:10:23.100 Next,

01:10:24.020 they take

01:10:24.460 your one

01:10:24.960 bill that

01:10:25.440 you used

01:10:25.820 to get,

01:10:26.880 and now the

01:10:27.440 government bills

01:10:28.220 you,

01:10:28.700 because I have

01:10:29.420 higher income,

01:10:30.640 so the government

01:10:31.340 bills me,

01:10:32.000 because I have

01:10:32.960 too much

01:10:33.280 income,

01:10:34.100 and then my

01:10:34.900 health care

01:10:35.280 bills me.

01:10:36.600 All right?

01:10:36.840 So that's the

01:10:37.260 second complication.

01:10:38.960 Next,

01:10:39.660 I already have

01:10:40.840 health care,

01:10:41.540 but in a

01:10:42.360 corporate way

01:10:43.000 through Kaiser.

01:10:45.760 Once I sign

01:10:46.720 up for

01:10:47.220 Kaiser's

01:10:48.380 Medicare,

01:10:49.820 that doesn't

01:10:51.220 automatically

01:10:51.800 change me

01:10:52.580 from the one

01:10:53.040 I have.

01:10:54.140 So as of

01:10:54.860 today,

01:10:55.460 I'm paying

01:10:56.580 for two

01:10:57.060 health care

01:10:57.480 programs,

01:10:58.900 because today

01:11:01.200 the Medicare

01:11:01.800 kicked in

01:11:02.320 September 1st,

01:11:03.140 for me anyway.

01:11:04.380 So mine

01:11:05.020 kicked in

01:11:05.460 today,

01:11:06.360 so I'm

01:11:06.680 paying for

01:11:07.060 the Medicare

01:11:07.500 and Kaiser.

01:11:09.140 I'm also

01:11:09.760 paying for

01:11:10.220 my regular

01:11:10.720 Kaiser,

01:11:12.500 until they

01:11:13.820 open and I

01:11:14.580 can cancel

01:11:15.060 the old one.

01:11:15.840 Now,

01:11:16.240 if I cancel

01:11:16.920 the old one,

01:11:18.040 I still have

01:11:18.620 my ex-step

01:11:20.560 kids on

01:11:22.200 there.

01:11:22.720 I don't know

01:11:23.460 if theirs

01:11:23.800 will get

01:11:24.120 canceled.

01:11:25.620 So I have

01:11:26.280 to figure out

01:11:26.900 corporate versus

01:11:27.920 personal,

01:11:28.840 moving some

01:11:29.420 people to

01:11:29.860 personal,

01:11:30.200 what is A,

01:11:31.040 B,

01:11:31.340 or D,

01:11:32.240 when to

01:11:32.700 start.

01:11:33.800 It's like a

01:11:34.420 three-month

01:11:34.840 process,

01:11:35.580 there are

01:11:35.780 deadlines,

01:11:37.580 and I

01:11:39.080 couldn't do

01:11:39.560 it.

01:11:40.840 I couldn't

01:11:41.280 do it.

01:11:42.620 Could not

01:11:43.320 figure out

01:11:43.800 how to

01:11:44.080 sign up.

01:11:45.420 Now,

01:11:45.800 what does

01:11:46.040 everybody else

01:11:46.540 do?

01:11:48.320 I don't

01:11:49.820 think that

01:11:50.320 it's an

01:11:50.660 over-claim

01:11:51.300 to say I'm

01:11:51.900 a high-functioning

01:11:52.980 senior.

01:11:55.220 What the

01:11:55.860 hell does 0.70

01:11:56.280 everybody else

01:11:56.860 do?

01:11:57.760 Now,

01:11:58.080 I think I've

01:11:58.720 finally got it.

01:11:59.520 I work

01:12:00.640 through it,

01:12:01.040 but it's

01:12:01.420 one of the

01:12:01.760 most complicated

01:12:02.380 things I've

01:12:02.940 ever seen.

01:12:04.600 Now,

01:12:05.580 let's take

01:12:06.520 another example.

01:12:08.480 Also,

01:12:09.260 relative to

01:12:10.100 just wrapping

01:12:11.420 up the last

01:12:12.040 details of

01:12:13.160 my divorce,

01:12:15.140 the last

01:12:15.920 thing that I

01:12:16.360 had to do

01:12:16.760 was transfer

01:12:17.440 one car

01:12:18.260 into another

01:12:18.780 name.

01:12:20.500 How easy

01:12:21.300 is that?

01:12:22.780 Have you

01:12:23.060 ever done

01:12:23.400 that?

01:12:23.680 Just transfer

01:12:24.580 an automobile

01:12:25.940 into another

01:12:26.680 name?

01:12:26.960 It's

01:12:27.480 pretty

01:12:27.640 easy,

01:12:27.940 right?

01:12:28.580 There's

01:12:29.040 a form

01:12:29.740 that's

01:12:30.460 probably

01:12:30.720 in your

01:12:31.040 glove

01:12:31.460 compartment.

01:12:32.500 It says

01:12:33.020 basically,

01:12:33.800 I own

01:12:34.380 the car,

01:12:35.800 I'm

01:12:36.020 signing it

01:12:36.500 away,

01:12:37.120 here's

01:12:37.480 the

01:12:37.600 mileage,

01:12:38.220 a couple

01:12:38.460 other basic

01:12:38.920 things.

01:12:40.820 So I

01:12:43.000 Google it.

01:12:44.200 I go,

01:12:44.560 how do you

01:12:45.280 transfer a

01:12:45.840 car?

01:12:46.940 I can't

01:12:47.600 find it

01:12:48.120 on Google

01:12:49.660 because it's

01:12:51.700 state-dependent.

01:12:53.280 I couldn't

01:12:53.740 find it on

01:12:54.160 Google.

01:12:55.260 So then

01:12:55.980 what do

01:12:56.240 you do?

01:12:57.920 So then

01:12:59.660 I went to

01:13:00.260 my insurance

01:13:01.140 company,

01:13:01.720 AAA,

01:13:02.520 because they

01:13:02.820 do some

01:13:03.220 DMV things

01:13:04.080 as part of

01:13:04.520 their service,

01:13:05.480 and I

01:13:05.880 asked them.

01:13:06.880 They say,

01:13:07.260 oh yeah,

01:13:07.600 you could

01:13:07.900 come into

01:13:08.380 the insurance

01:13:09.500 place,

01:13:10.080 they have an

01:13:10.380 office,

01:13:11.080 and do

01:13:11.380 some DMV

01:13:11.900 things,

01:13:12.440 but you

01:13:13.000 can't do

01:13:13.340 all of

01:13:13.740 the DMV

01:13:14.160 things.

01:13:15.000 So now

01:13:15.340 I've got

01:13:15.580 a DMV

01:13:16.080 problem.

01:13:17.120 There's

01:13:17.320 one place

01:13:17.820 I can

01:13:18.100 go for

01:13:18.400 one part

01:13:19.100 of the

01:13:19.300 process

01:13:19.620 to get

01:13:20.120 the forms,

01:13:21.220 but I

01:13:21.740 actually have

01:13:22.160 to go to

01:13:22.440 the DMV

01:13:23.040 to finish

01:13:24.220 it.

01:13:24.940 And there's

01:13:25.480 two forms.

01:13:26.620 One I have

01:13:27.240 to sign,

01:13:28.580 and then

01:13:29.260 one that the

01:13:29.980 recipient has

01:13:30.580 to sign.

01:13:31.400 And I

01:13:32.460 looked at the

01:13:32.940 forms and

01:13:33.380 I said,

01:13:33.920 okay,

01:13:34.860 since I

01:13:35.260 don't want

01:13:35.620 to meet

01:13:36.400 in person

01:13:37.560 with my

01:13:38.000 ex,

01:13:38.460 because we're

01:13:39.060 at that

01:13:39.360 phase where

01:13:40.660 it's better

01:13:40.980 we don't

01:13:41.460 have contact,

01:13:43.000 I thought,

01:13:44.340 oh,

01:13:44.520 I'll just

01:13:44.820 sign the

01:13:45.220 things I

01:13:45.560 need to

01:13:45.900 sign,

01:13:47.040 and then

01:13:47.380 I'll just

01:13:47.700 give them

01:13:48.020 to her,

01:13:48.640 and then

01:13:48.940 she can 0.59

01:13:49.260 complete the

01:13:49.820 process.

01:13:50.200 And I

01:13:51.400 said to

01:13:51.680 myself,

01:13:52.180 I'm going

01:13:52.440 to try

01:13:52.720 as hard

01:13:53.120 as I

01:13:53.380 can not

01:13:53.940 to miss

01:13:54.360 a place

01:13:54.760 to sign.

01:13:56.220 Now,

01:13:56.760 here's the

01:13:57.220 complexity.

01:13:59.100 Two pieces

01:13:59.820 of paper

01:14:00.260 with stuff

01:14:02.080 on both

01:14:02.460 sides,

01:14:03.080 so there's

01:14:03.500 just four

01:14:03.920 pages.

01:14:04.280 And my

01:14:06.020 only task

01:14:06.820 was to

01:14:07.280 find all

01:14:08.740 the places

01:14:09.260 I needed

01:14:09.720 to sign

01:14:10.200 my name.

01:14:11.600 Keep in

01:14:12.020 mind that

01:14:12.380 these two

01:14:12.800 pieces of

01:14:13.280 paper travel

01:14:13.880 together.

01:14:15.640 So can

01:14:16.480 you tell

01:14:16.780 me why I

01:14:17.260 had to

01:14:17.560 sign anything

01:14:18.180 more than

01:14:18.640 once?

01:14:20.280 No.

01:14:21.200 There's no

01:14:21.620 reason.

01:14:23.780 So do

01:14:24.480 you think

01:14:24.780 that I

01:14:25.120 successfully

01:14:25.760 found all

01:14:26.460 the places

01:14:26.900 I should

01:14:27.340 sign?

01:14:28.360 No,

01:14:28.840 I did

01:14:29.060 not.

01:14:29.920 So I

01:14:30.440 wasted a

01:14:30.940 week,

01:14:31.940 because I

01:14:32.880 gave her

01:14:33.200 the documents

01:14:33.760 and there

01:14:34.040 was a

01:14:34.260 place I

01:14:34.600 didn't sign.

01:14:35.740 And then

01:14:36.240 she looked

01:14:36.660 at them,

01:14:37.620 and she's

01:14:38.380 much younger,

01:14:39.080 she doesn't

01:14:39.420 have that

01:14:39.720 senior problem,

01:14:40.940 and she

01:14:41.260 looked at

01:14:41.600 them and

01:14:41.780 said,

01:14:42.380 I don't

01:14:42.920 know how

01:14:43.120 to fill

01:14:43.380 these out.

01:14:45.080 And I

01:14:45.580 thought,

01:14:45.900 oh,

01:14:46.160 thank God,

01:14:46.780 because I

01:14:47.060 didn't know

01:14:47.300 how to

01:14:47.440 fill them

01:14:47.720 out either.

01:14:48.420 I couldn't

01:14:48.760 figure it

01:14:49.100 out.

01:14:49.660 You

01:14:49.840 couldn't

01:14:50.060 figure out

01:14:50.520 who was

01:14:50.960 the giver,

01:14:51.840 the seller,

01:14:52.420 the lesser,

01:14:53.020 the lessee.

01:14:54.080 They use

01:14:54.480 all this

01:14:54.780 confusing

01:14:55.260 language and

01:14:56.700 ambiguity.

01:14:57.520 You're like,

01:14:57.760 I have no

01:14:58.280 idea how to

01:14:58.760 fill these

01:14:59.080 out.

01:14:59.800 So here's

01:15:00.220 what we

01:15:04.260 and we

01:15:04.540 would stand

01:15:05.020 together at

01:15:05.620 the window

01:15:05.960 and then

01:15:06.960 the DMV

01:15:07.520 person would

01:15:08.040 tell us how

01:15:08.480 to fill it

01:15:08.880 out, and

01:15:09.660 then there

01:15:10.080 would be no

01:15:10.420 problems.

01:15:11.980 Do you

01:15:12.460 know who

01:15:12.840 else didn't

01:15:13.460 know how to

01:15:13.840 fill out the

01:15:14.300 forms?

01:15:16.240 The DMV.

01:15:18.780 The DMV

01:15:19.660 didn't know how

01:15:20.740 to fill out

01:15:21.080 the form.

01:15:21.920 Had just as

01:15:22.660 much problem

01:15:23.140 as we did.

01:15:24.980 I mean,

01:15:25.260 she's looking

01:15:25.780 at it and

01:15:26.020 she's like,

01:15:26.580 I think you

01:15:28.100 sign here,

01:15:29.500 and I look at

01:15:30.100 the place she

01:15:30.640 tells me to

01:15:31.280 sign, I'm

01:15:31.760 the one giving

01:15:32.300 the car,

01:15:32.740 and it

01:15:33.800 very clearly

01:15:34.400 says recipient.

01:15:36.520 And she

01:15:36.980 goes, you

01:15:37.260 have to sign

01:15:37.740 here.

01:15:38.020 I go, okay,

01:15:39.060 so I'm the

01:15:39.720 giver of the

01:15:40.260 car, and

01:15:41.240 you're asking

01:15:41.580 me to sign

01:15:42.060 the recipient

01:15:42.920 of the car

01:15:43.420 place.

01:15:43.780 She goes,

01:15:44.080 yes.

01:15:44.940 I'm using

01:15:45.540 the wrong

01:15:45.840 language, but

01:15:46.440 that's basically

01:15:46.960 it.

01:15:47.460 I go, you're

01:15:48.660 sure that's

01:15:49.140 right?

01:15:50.520 She goes,

01:15:50.980 yes.

01:15:52.260 Then she

01:15:52.620 was so

01:15:52.960 unsure, she 0.99

01:15:53.540 had to call

01:15:53.900 the supervisor

01:15:54.540 over.

01:15:55.960 And then the

01:15:56.400 supervisor seemed

01:15:57.220 to be a

01:15:57.960 little uncertain.

01:15:59.660 Now, there

01:16:00.140 is nothing they

01:16:00.780 do more

01:16:01.280 commonly.

01:16:02.740 Well, I

01:16:03.540 guess there

01:16:03.820 are.

01:16:04.400 But one of

01:16:04.820 the most

01:16:05.080 common things

01:16:05.720 that the

01:16:05.980 DMV does is

01:16:07.040 change title

01:16:08.540 of a car.

01:16:09.940 It's like the

01:16:10.920 most basic

01:16:11.880 thing you

01:16:12.340 could do.

01:16:13.380 And they

01:16:13.940 didn't know

01:16:14.220 how to do

01:16:14.560 it either.

01:16:15.420 And it was

01:16:15.960 because the

01:16:16.620 documents were

01:16:17.280 so poorly

01:16:18.320 done.

01:16:19.080 Now, the

01:16:19.420 only problem

01:16:19.880 with Medicare

01:16:20.480 is that whoever

01:16:21.940 designed it

01:16:22.660 designed it so

01:16:23.720 poorly that it

01:16:25.500 can't be figured

01:16:26.080 out by a

01:16:26.620 person.

01:16:27.360 The way that

01:16:28.040 seniors do it

01:16:28.780 is they get an

01:16:29.380 advisor.

01:16:29.800 You actually

01:16:31.180 have to hire

01:16:31.800 somebody, which

01:16:32.480 is what I

01:16:32.900 did.

01:16:33.600 I ended up

01:16:34.480 having my

01:16:36.120 bookkeeper help

01:16:36.780 me.

01:16:37.400 So you can't

01:16:38.320 even figure it

01:16:38.860 out without an

01:16:39.400 advisor.

01:16:40.780 And again,

01:16:41.440 here's what the

01:16:42.000 complexity should

01:16:42.840 have been.

01:16:43.760 Are you 65?

01:16:45.700 Yes.

01:16:48.140 That's it.

01:16:49.500 That should

01:16:49.860 have been the

01:16:50.120 whole process

01:16:50.680 right there.

01:16:51.840 It could have

01:16:52.180 been.

01:16:52.660 There was

01:16:52.960 nothing that

01:16:53.340 would stop

01:16:53.660 that from

01:16:54.000 in the process.

01:16:54.960 Now, I'm

01:16:56.100 going to

01:16:56.340 dovetail these

01:16:57.020 two stories,

01:16:58.280 which were way

01:16:58.920 too long and

01:16:59.380 boring, into

01:17:00.640 something

01:17:00.940 fascinating.

01:17:01.720 You ready?

01:17:04.280 This is why

01:17:05.260 the biggest

01:17:05.920 market of the

01:17:06.920 future is

01:17:08.320 going to be

01:17:09.120 greenfield cities.

01:17:10.700 In other

01:17:10.960 words, a city

01:17:11.540 that's built

01:17:12.560 from scratch

01:17:13.420 where nothing

01:17:14.880 had existed

01:17:15.500 before.

01:17:17.400 Because these

01:17:18.160 are the problems

01:17:18.620 you can engineer

01:17:19.840 out.

01:17:21.080 You should get

01:17:21.800 rid of lawyers,

01:17:23.160 contracts,

01:17:23.900 insurance, all

01:17:25.440 of that stuff.

01:17:27.020 You could get

01:17:27.980 rid of everything

01:17:28.600 from banks.

01:17:31.220 You could get

01:17:31.720 rid of banks,

01:17:32.500 insurance companies.

01:17:34.280 Lending should

01:17:35.080 just be through

01:17:35.640 your app.

01:17:37.020 Basically, 98%

01:17:39.360 of all the

01:17:40.420 paperwork,

01:17:41.600 headache, you

01:17:42.480 could make it

01:17:42.920 all go away. 0.88

01:17:44.400 Just make it

01:17:44.940 all go away. 0.88

01:17:47.440 I just

01:17:48.140 lied.

01:17:50.860 About what?

01:17:51.580 Now, I

01:17:56.840 think that

01:17:57.300 between the

01:17:57.760 fact that

01:17:58.120 our lifestyles

01:17:58.840 have changed

01:17:59.380 and technology

01:18:00.080 is advanced

01:18:00.840 and that

01:18:01.980 regulations

01:18:02.460 stop you

01:18:03.100 from doing

01:18:03.440 everything you

01:18:03.880 want,

01:18:04.340 everything is

01:18:05.060 leaning toward

01:18:05.560 the same

01:18:05.880 thing.

01:18:06.700 There will be

01:18:07.140 cities that

01:18:07.980 are just

01:18:08.280 built to be

01:18:09.380 more livable.

01:18:12.560 Get rid of

01:18:13.260 the government?

01:18:13.880 Yeah.

01:18:14.560 So you could

01:18:15.300 also build the

01:18:16.000 cities with the

01:18:16.960 most limited

01:18:17.580 form of government

01:18:18.520 as well.

01:18:19.000 That's a good

01:18:19.840 suggestion.

01:18:25.720 So I've got

01:18:27.080 to do another

01:18:27.640 NPC alert.

01:18:29.740 All right?

01:18:30.900 So the NPCs

01:18:32.020 say whatever is

01:18:32.700 the most obvious

01:18:33.580 thing you could

01:18:34.120 say that's also

01:18:34.980 unhelpful.

01:18:37.080 Whenever I talk

01:18:38.060 about homes

01:18:39.900 will be redesigned

01:18:40.960 from scratch,

01:18:41.800 do you know

01:18:42.040 what somebody

01:18:42.400 always says?

01:18:43.240 Oh, tiny homes.

01:18:44.540 And I say,

01:18:45.240 no, no.

01:18:46.520 It has nothing

01:18:47.340 to do with tiny.

01:18:49.000 Tiny homes

01:18:49.680 exist, but

01:18:50.900 that's not

01:18:51.300 what I'm

01:18:51.580 talking about.

01:18:52.600 Definitely not

01:18:53.400 tiny homes,

01:18:54.520 just better,

01:18:55.660 better homes.

01:18:57.160 And then they

01:18:57.600 say, oh,

01:18:58.400 here's a link

01:18:58.940 to some tiny

01:18:59.540 homes.

01:18:59.900 I go, no,

01:19:00.300 no, no.

01:19:01.140 No tiny homes.

01:19:02.520 That's not even

01:19:03.140 in the conversation.

01:19:04.460 Just imagine

01:19:05.100 it has nothing

01:19:05.780 to do with tiny

01:19:06.460 homes.

01:19:07.160 It's just

01:19:07.440 better homes.

01:19:10.140 Here's another

01:19:10.780 company that

01:19:11.260 makes tiny homes.

01:19:12.160 No!

01:19:12.520 Oh! 0.60

01:19:13.840 Oh! 0.60

01:19:14.620 Ah!

01:19:14.820 And I

01:19:17.480 don't know

01:19:17.800 what to do

01:19:18.200 about it.

01:19:19.420 Is there

01:19:20.000 anything I

01:19:20.520 could do

01:19:20.900 for my

01:19:21.640 audience to

01:19:22.160 make you

01:19:22.480 stop saying

01:19:23.020 tiny homes?

01:19:23.940 We're not

01:19:24.600 talking about

01:19:25.120 tiny homes.

01:19:27.020 Tiny homes

01:19:27.540 is the wrong

01:19:28.200 way to do

01:19:28.660 it.

01:19:29.780 That's the

01:19:30.420 wrong way.

01:19:32.640 Right?

01:19:33.880 When I

01:19:34.520 talk about

01:19:35.320 designing a

01:19:36.140 city from

01:19:36.600 scratch,

01:19:37.220 what does

01:19:37.680 somebody always

01:19:38.220 say?

01:19:39.720 Communism

01:19:40.320 won't work.

01:19:41.980 Communism

01:19:42.440 won't work.

01:19:42.960 What part

01:19:45.860 was

01:19:46.080 communism?

01:19:47.860 No.

01:19:48.600 No

01:19:48.860 communism.

01:19:51.340 If I

01:19:52.240 say that

01:19:54.260 some of the

01:19:54.800 facilities might

01:19:55.780 work better if

01:19:56.440 they're shared,

01:19:58.220 somebody will

01:19:58.700 say, oh,

01:19:59.320 get away from

01:19:59.880 me with

01:20:00.160 your

01:20:00.280 communism.

01:20:01.580 I go,

01:20:01.960 what, is

01:20:02.380 the public

01:20:03.320 library

01:20:03.860 communism?

01:20:05.840 Is the

01:20:06.460 fact that I

01:20:07.000 can rent a

01:20:07.700 tool, is

01:20:09.100 that communism?

01:20:10.200 Because I

01:20:10.720 can rent a

01:20:11.180 tool now.

01:20:12.100 How about

01:20:12.460 those you

01:20:12.900 U-Haul

01:20:13.460 trucks?

01:20:14.200 Communism?

01:20:16.160 Because, you

01:20:16.860 know, we're

01:20:17.720 all just

01:20:18.020 renting the

01:20:18.560 same truck.

01:20:19.380 I don't

01:20:19.780 get to

01:20:20.060 own a

01:20:20.420 truck.

01:20:20.700 I have

01:20:20.860 to rent

01:20:21.200 the U-Haul

01:20:22.100 truck.

01:20:22.860 Bunch of

01:20:23.320 communism,

01:20:23.900 right?

01:20:26.680 Please,

01:20:27.580 please, if

01:20:28.780 I talk about

01:20:29.360 designing a

01:20:29.960 home, don't

01:20:30.520 say tiny

01:20:31.040 home.

01:20:31.760 And if I

01:20:32.120 talk about

01:20:32.500 designing a

01:20:33.260 city, don't

01:20:34.160 say communism

01:20:34.960 or socialism

01:20:36.280 or commune.

01:20:38.080 Those have

01:20:38.760 nothing to do

01:20:39.580 with these

01:20:39.880 ideas.

01:20:40.660 Nothing.

01:20:41.180 Nothing.

01:20:41.280 Klaus

01:20:46.780 Schwab is

01:20:48.760 behind

01:20:49.080 U-Haul.

01:20:51.520 Property is

01:20:52.240 theft.

01:20:54.300 Are you

01:20:54.960 aware that

01:20:55.520 Elon Musk

01:20:56.700 doesn't own

01:20:57.460 real estate?

01:21:00.340 Because

01:21:00.820 possessions are

01:21:01.680 problems.

01:21:03.020 And I've

01:21:03.380 told you that

01:21:03.960 when I go on

01:21:04.860 vacation, one

01:21:06.240 of the biggest

01:21:06.680 reasons I go on

01:21:07.420 vacation is to

01:21:08.100 get away from

01:21:08.540 my possessions,

01:21:09.920 especially my

01:21:11.180 dog.

01:21:12.520 Because they're

01:21:13.140 too much

01:21:13.460 trouble.

01:21:14.480 All my

01:21:14.840 possessions are

01:21:15.460 work.

01:21:16.460 Today I'll do

01:21:17.360 a whole bunch

01:21:17.880 of things for

01:21:18.500 my possessions

01:21:19.180 that I don't

01:21:20.180 want to do.

01:21:21.600 So when

01:21:22.640 Klaus Schwab

01:21:23.660 says,

01:21:24.840 someday you'll

01:21:25.540 own nothing

01:21:26.100 and you'll be

01:21:26.820 happy, I am

01:21:28.060 so on board.

01:21:30.360 It's something

01:21:31.000 that rich people

01:21:31.760 know that if

01:21:33.140 you're not rich

01:21:33.680 you haven't

01:21:34.100 experienced.

01:21:34.540 your possessions 1.00

01:21:36.960 are a fucking 1.00

01:21:37.680 pain in the 1.00

01:21:38.220 ass and they 1.00

01:21:39.540 don't make you 0.98

01:21:40.140 happy.

01:21:41.120 Now there are

01:21:41.480 exceptions that

01:21:42.160 people like to

01:21:42.860 collect expensive

01:21:43.740 things and maybe

01:21:44.440 they get a charge

01:21:45.120 out of it.

01:21:45.640 I don't.

01:21:46.760 I mean I've

01:21:47.200 never heard of

01:21:47.660 Elon Musk

01:21:48.200 collecting anything.

01:21:49.860 Have you?

01:21:50.880 Does he have

01:21:51.220 an, I don't

01:21:52.660 think he has a

01:21:53.220 Russian egg 0.92

01:21:53.820 collection and I

01:21:54.900 don't think he's

01:21:55.400 likely to get

01:21:56.000 one.

01:21:57.080 But unless you

01:21:58.000 have like a

01:21:58.640 fetish for

01:22:00.320 collecting something,

01:22:02.060 possessions are

01:22:02.860 a complete pain 1.00

01:22:04.240 the ass. 1.00

01:22:05.380 You know, if 1.00

01:22:06.060 you can lease

01:22:06.660 a car affordably

01:22:08.440 that's a better

01:22:08.980 way to go.

01:22:09.660 If you can, you

01:22:10.920 know, get a

01:22:11.500 maintenance contract

01:22:12.340 that's a better

01:22:13.460 way to go.

01:22:15.060 Oh, a

01:22:15.440 maintenance contract?

01:22:16.560 You mean

01:22:16.940 socialism?

01:22:18.240 Communism?

01:22:19.380 No, a

01:22:20.000 maintenance contract.

01:22:23.880 Yes, I believe

01:22:24.980 that it is

01:22:25.460 literally true that

01:22:26.380 we will own

01:22:27.040 nothing and be

01:22:27.760 happier.

01:22:29.800 Because that

01:22:30.500 makes perfect

01:22:31.040 sense to me.

01:22:32.500 Because the

01:22:33.180 ownership of

01:22:33.860 stuff makes me

01:22:34.520 very unhappy.

01:22:35.680 Now, what I

01:22:36.100 do want is

01:22:36.800 access to

01:22:37.520 stuff.

01:22:38.480 So here's

01:22:38.900 what you

01:22:42.320 confuse.

01:22:44.020 You think that

01:22:44.740 ownership of

01:22:45.600 stuff gives you

01:22:46.800 access to it.

01:22:48.320 Like you have

01:22:48.920 ultimate access if

01:22:50.000 you have

01:22:50.180 ownership.

01:22:50.840 It's not

01:22:51.280 true.

01:22:52.600 Owning it means

01:22:53.420 it's going to be

01:22:53.920 broken a lot of

01:22:54.700 the times.

01:22:56.200 If you're

01:22:56.940 renting it, it's

01:22:58.140 more likely that

01:22:58.920 it's going to be

01:22:59.340 repaired.

01:22:59.760 Likewise, if

01:23:02.460 you only took

01:23:03.240 Uber, how 0.66

01:23:04.620 often, let's

01:23:05.540 say you're in

01:23:05.900 a city where

01:23:06.520 there's lots of

01:23:07.020 Uber, if you

01:23:08.480 only took

01:23:08.960 Uber, you'd 1.00

01:23:11.300 always have a

01:23:11.820 ride.

01:23:12.900 But if you

01:23:13.560 only rely on

01:23:14.440 your car that

01:23:15.240 you own, 10

01:23:17.120 days a year it's

01:23:17.760 in the shop.

01:23:19.460 So now you

01:23:20.260 could argue, oh,

01:23:20.960 Uber isn't that

01:23:21.720 reliable.

01:23:24.140 But it will

01:23:24.600 be.

01:23:25.500 But my point

01:23:26.140 is, if Uber

01:23:27.020 goes to the

01:23:28.220 next level where

01:23:29.000 there's one on

01:23:29.540 every block, you

01:23:30.940 definitely don't

01:23:31.600 want to own a

01:23:32.120 car, unless it's

01:23:33.580 your fetish,

01:23:34.360 right?

01:23:35.100 Like it just gets

01:23:36.100 you off somehow.

01:23:36.800 You just love a

01:23:37.840 car.

01:23:38.460 Well, that's fine.

01:23:39.400 But that's for

01:23:40.080 entertainment.

01:23:43.340 We don't have

01:23:44.240 your money.

01:23:44.820 That is correct.

01:23:46.660 So the part about

01:23:48.040 me having money

01:23:48.760 means I just got

01:23:50.040 to the realization

01:23:50.940 earlier, as

01:23:52.240 Elon Musk did.

01:23:53.860 And you see

01:23:54.800 Bill Gates built a

01:23:56.500 nice house, but

01:23:57.980 he doesn't seem

01:23:58.620 overly possession

01:23:59.720 oriented.

01:24:01.520 He seems more

01:24:02.260 about helping the

01:24:03.020 world and stuff.

01:24:04.640 Why don't you

01:24:05.200 just rent?

01:24:06.000 Because there's

01:24:06.760 no way I could

01:24:07.320 rent a place that

01:24:09.080 met my basic

01:24:09.840 needs.

01:24:12.120 So the only

01:24:12.960 reason I own is

01:24:14.200 because renting

01:24:14.860 isn't an option.

01:24:15.800 If renting were

01:24:16.400 an option, I'd

01:24:17.100 do it.

01:24:18.480 How big is

01:24:19.220 your house?

01:24:21.500 19,000 square

01:24:23.580 feet.

01:24:26.500 But half of

01:24:27.800 it is a

01:24:28.320 tennis court.

01:24:29.940 So it's

01:24:31.520 about 9,000

01:24:32.220 square feet for

01:24:33.060 the living area.

01:24:34.520 And then there's

01:24:35.220 a tennis court

01:24:35.900 that's enclosed.

01:24:41.980 Right

01:24:42.460 Land Panda

01:24:43.160 says, no way

01:24:43.860 my IQ is

01:24:44.640 185.

01:24:46.620 Well, I

01:24:47.560 think you

01:24:47.980 should debate

01:24:49.080 about that in

01:24:49.780 public more.

01:24:51.800 I think that

01:24:52.500 question needs

01:24:53.160 to be raised.

01:24:53.800 And your

01:24:54.840 skepticism about

01:24:55.900 my IQ being

01:24:56.720 185 is exactly

01:24:58.040 what you should

01:24:58.580 be talking about.

01:24:59.900 There are a lot

01:25:00.540 of topics you

01:25:01.100 could be talking

01:25:01.800 about, but

01:25:02.860 that's the one I

01:25:03.520 think is the

01:25:03.960 most important.

01:25:05.080 So spend a

01:25:05.540 little more time

01:25:06.020 on that one.

01:25:07.460 If you have

01:25:07.880 any more comments

01:25:08.620 about my IQ

01:25:09.580 not being 185,

01:25:11.320 I'd like to see

01:25:11.820 them.

01:25:16.560 Reportedly.

01:25:18.900 That's right,

01:25:19.500 reportedly.

01:25:19.940 A, if you

01:25:23.120 don't believe it,

01:25:23.660 look it up.

01:25:24.120 It's on

01:25:24.360 Wikipedia.

01:25:26.600 Wikipedia

01:25:27.000 couldn't be

01:25:27.480 wrong.

01:25:29.780 You have no

01:25:30.540 one to play

01:25:30.940 tennis with.

01:25:31.700 That's true.

01:25:32.300 But I don't

01:25:32.660 play tennis

01:25:33.140 anymore.

01:25:33.580 I quit.

01:25:34.820 It's bad for

01:25:35.400 my body.

01:25:38.460 Who owns

01:25:39.300 the properties

01:25:39.960 then?

01:25:40.820 Well, I

01:25:41.680 don't know.

01:25:43.140 Somebody

01:25:43.540 else.

01:25:46.620 All right.

01:25:47.020 You don't

01:25:49.620 own something

01:25:50.200 if somebody

01:25:50.740 can easily

01:25:51.240 take it

01:25:51.660 away.

01:25:51.920 That is

01:25:52.280 correct.

01:25:53.900 Do you

01:25:54.280 own your

01:25:54.660 gun?

01:25:55.380 Well, it

01:25:55.840 depends how

01:25:56.220 easy it is

01:25:56.720 to take it

01:25:57.140 away.

01:26:01.620 All right.

01:26:03.200 Do you

01:26:03.720 grow your

01:26:04.020 own stash?

01:26:04.760 No.

01:26:06.000 No, that's

01:26:06.480 a perfect

01:26:07.520 example.

01:26:11.380 All right.

01:26:12.420 Sell the 1.00

01:26:12.860 damn house. 1.00

01:26:14.440 And I will 1.00

01:26:14.840 eventually.

01:26:15.220 No, I

01:26:17.680 don't have

01:26:18.020 subscriber

01:26:18.600 mode only.

01:26:28.580 Gates bought

01:26:29.360 a lot of

01:26:29.840 farmland.

01:26:31.000 Yeah, but

01:26:31.300 farmland is

01:26:32.200 not a

01:26:32.560 possession.

01:26:33.380 That's an

01:26:33.720 investment.

01:26:35.700 That's

01:26:36.220 different.

01:26:38.180 Yeah, owning

01:26:38.640 investments still

01:26:39.560 makes sense.

01:26:42.600 All right.

01:26:43.020 when will

01:26:45.700 you put

01:26:46.040 out the

01:26:46.400 fix to

01:26:46.860 social

01:26:47.200 anxiety?

01:26:48.300 It's

01:26:48.560 out.

01:26:50.380 It's

01:26:50.780 out.

01:26:52.060 So the

01:26:52.780 social

01:26:53.340 anxiety

01:26:53.940 video is

01:26:57.580 out.

01:26:58.380 So look

01:26:58.760 for it in

01:26:59.140 my Twitter

01:26:59.560 feed.

01:27:00.060 You'll see

01:27:00.440 it in the

01:27:01.860 last week

01:27:02.860 or so.

01:27:03.600 Look for

01:27:03.980 the one

01:27:04.220 that's got

01:27:04.560 a video

01:27:04.980 that's,

01:27:05.520 if you

01:27:05.820 scroll

01:27:06.080 through,

01:27:06.980 there's only

01:27:07.380 a few

01:27:07.660 of them

01:27:07.840 that show

01:27:08.160 like a

01:27:08.900 big image

01:27:09.660 of the

01:27:09.900 video.

01:27:10.220 So if

01:27:11.140 you scroll

01:27:11.560 through my

01:27:11.960 feed quickly,

01:27:12.660 you'll find

01:27:13.000 it.

01:27:16.300 All right.

01:27:16.880 Is there

01:27:17.120 anybody else

01:27:17.640 who's,

01:27:18.420 oh, let me

01:27:19.060 ask this.

01:27:19.820 Is there

01:27:20.140 anybody who's

01:27:20.700 tried yet

01:27:21.720 these social

01:27:23.060 anxiety

01:27:23.660 techniques I

01:27:24.620 put in the

01:27:25.020 video and

01:27:26.100 gone into a

01:27:26.960 room and

01:27:27.540 made it

01:27:27.820 work?

01:27:28.780 Yes.

01:27:29.380 Oh, we got

01:27:29.800 a yes

01:27:30.060 already.

01:27:30.860 All right.

01:27:31.840 I did a

01:27:32.520 church.

01:27:34.860 Oh, look at

01:27:35.580 that.

01:27:36.400 A bunch of

01:27:37.100 people have

01:27:37.500 tried it.

01:27:37.920 Oh, it

01:27:39.900 didn't work

01:27:40.280 for you.

01:27:40.740 So somebody

01:27:41.160 says it

01:27:41.520 didn't work,

01:27:42.060 but a bunch

01:27:42.400 of yeses.

01:27:44.620 Good for

01:27:45.180 you.

01:27:48.440 The nude

01:27:49.180 photo story,

01:27:50.000 I did not

01:27:50.360 see that.

01:27:56.300 Good for

01:27:56.900 you.

01:27:57.360 All right.

01:27:58.840 So a bunch

01:27:59.540 of people

01:27:59.860 tried it and

01:28:00.660 reported that

01:28:01.480 it's working.

01:28:03.060 Good job.

01:28:04.020 Good job,

01:28:04.640 all of you.

01:28:05.840 All right,

01:28:06.300 that's all for

01:28:06.720 now, and I'll

01:28:07.400 go do

01:28:08.220 something else

01:28:08.800 and I'll

01:28:10.320 talk to you

01:28:11.620 tomorrow.

01:28:11.860 Good job.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - September 01, 2022

Episode 1853 Scott Adams： All The News Is Funny, Fake And Interesting Today. Come Enjoy It With Me

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