Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1867 Scott Adams： Come Watch Me Change The Political Narrative Right In Front Of Your Eyes

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00:00:59.600 Well, let's talk about all the news.

00:01:04.040 Once again today, Dilbert is running another ESG-themed comic.

00:01:11.400 And you'd probably like me to read it to you, wouldn't you?

00:01:14.660 Yeah, I know you would.

00:01:16.760 I know you would.

00:01:19.260 And it goes a little something like...

00:01:23.660 Uh-oh.

00:01:24.120 Okay, there it is.

00:01:27.780 Looked like it was going to be a technical problem, but no.

00:01:31.200 So here Dogbert is just talking to Dilbert at a table,

00:01:36.080 and Dilbert says,

00:01:37.240 What is this ESG thing I keep hearing about?

00:01:41.500 And Dogbert says,

00:01:42.560 Imagine if a crooked politician and a crooked financial advisor got married and had a baby.

00:01:48.760 And Dilbert says,

00:01:50.800 So ESG would be that baby. 0.61

00:01:54.000 And Dogbert says,

00:01:55.040 Only if it is colicky and has firehose diarrhea.

00:01:58.620 Now, who would retweet a comic like that?

00:02:06.560 Who would be so low-born, 1.00

00:02:10.840 so much a person of the people,

00:02:14.900 that they would retweet such a controversial cartoon?

00:02:18.660 Well, one of them is Senator Tom Cotton,

00:02:21.580 who tweeted it this morning.

00:02:23.240 And he said,

00:02:24.900 He said,

00:02:27.580 Congratulations to BlackRock and Larry Fink for appearing in today's Dilbert.

00:02:32.940 And, you know, well done, Scott Epps.

00:02:34.780 So,

00:02:36.460 here's what I was trying to do.

00:02:41.100 I did want...

00:02:43.020 This is exactly what I wanted.

00:02:45.300 I wanted to raise the profile of ESG,

00:02:48.460 and I want to create the following thought in people's mind.

00:02:53.860 And the thought goes like this.

00:02:56.600 Nobody knows exactly what ESG is, right?

00:03:00.260 You know what the letters are.

00:03:02.420 Maybe you worked at a company where they were implementing it,

00:03:05.080 so you saw it up close.

00:03:06.620 But it's kind of big and unwieldy and complicated and ambiguous and hard to define.

00:03:11.820 And it might be morphing and changing,

00:03:13.460 and nobody's quite sure exactly what's in and what's out.

00:03:16.300 And how would you measure any of this anyway?

00:03:18.780 So it's this big amorphous cloud.

00:03:20.640 So it's hard to say anything good about it or anything bad about it,

00:03:25.680 because you can't actually talk about it in any way that anybody would understand,

00:03:32.260 because it's just too big, right?

00:03:34.020 Too big and too many...

00:03:35.460 It's like three different topics that they melded together into this souffle of God knows what.

00:03:42.160 Now, here's the only thing that people will know when I'm done.

00:03:48.300 You ready for this?

00:03:49.080 This is the only thing the public will know.

00:03:50.680 A giant company called BlackRock thinks it's a good idea,

00:03:58.000 and the Dilbert cartoonist thinks it's bullshit.

00:04:03.920 That's it.

00:04:06.260 Because if I tried to get in an argument about the details,

00:04:11.000 how well is that going to go, right?

00:04:13.500 Everybody gets lost in the details, and nobody understands anything.

00:04:16.680 But if you just understand two things,

00:04:19.160 there's a big, giant company that thinks it's a terrific idea,

00:04:23.680 and there's the guy who makes the Dilbert comic who says it's a bad idea.

00:04:31.940 So good luck.

00:04:33.380 We'll see if we can kill this by the end of the year.

00:04:35.860 Now, kill it just means try to, let's say,

00:04:40.240 try to bully it into something that we can live with.

00:04:44.160 I'm certainly not against, you know, the environment.

00:04:50.040 I'm not against the environment.

00:04:52.040 I'm not against companies doing things that are good for the environment.

00:04:56.400 I'm not against having good governance.

00:04:58.760 I think it's a good idea to have your governance,

00:05:01.140 as much as you can, you know,

00:05:03.900 reflect the public and your customers and even your employees.

00:05:07.520 So, just to be clear,

00:05:11.340 I don't have any problem with the objectives of ESG.

00:05:15.240 You get that, right?

00:05:17.580 Like, the things that they're asking for just seem like good generic things.

00:05:21.800 It's just the way it's done.

00:05:23.300 It's always the way it's done.

00:05:24.740 The thing I make fun of is always the way it's done.

00:05:28.620 When I make fun of management,

00:05:30.880 am I saying that companies should not be managed?

00:05:34.280 Of course not.

00:05:35.180 I'm only making fun of the way it's done, right?

00:05:39.080 So, that's my beat.

00:05:42.520 It's not about the idea.

00:05:44.320 It's about how it's implemented.

00:05:45.640 And here specifically is why it's a problem.

00:05:49.540 Because the people pushing ESG,

00:05:52.920 what is the one thing that they're not concerned with?

00:05:57.100 What is the one thing they're not concerned with

00:05:59.460 if they're pushing ESG?

00:06:01.480 The profitability of the company.

00:06:03.220 So, you need somebody who's in charge of all the variables.

00:06:08.240 You can't outsource some of the variables to another party.

00:06:12.780 That's not a management structure that can work in the long run.

00:06:18.200 It's always going to be a drag on everything.

00:06:21.160 And then, on top of that,

00:06:23.640 if you just...

00:06:24.760 By the way, that's all the argument you need,

00:06:27.160 is you can't take management's control of all the variables

00:06:30.360 where they're balancing, well, profit's good, environment's good,

00:06:35.960 you know, we're going to make some calls here.

00:06:40.040 Now, obviously, you don't want them doing profits over the environment,

00:06:43.140 but there's probably some balance there

00:06:46.660 that we're not exactly hitting quite right.

00:06:48.960 So, generally speaking, you want the people who are in charge

00:06:53.080 to be able to control all the variables

00:06:55.480 or else you don't get a good result.

00:06:59.360 Would you agree with that?

00:07:01.360 If the people running the company

00:07:03.360 are not the ones who can control which variables are important

00:07:07.180 and which ones get priority and which ones don't,

00:07:09.760 it's not really managed.

00:07:12.380 They're just victims of outside forces at that point.

00:07:15.040 So, it's a clever sort of backdoor way

00:07:19.920 to introduce a form of,

00:07:23.380 maybe some form of, I don't know,

00:07:26.740 cousin of socialism or something.

00:07:29.460 I'm not sure exactly what.

00:07:31.140 But it effectively would take some control

00:07:33.040 away from the people who have control

00:07:34.900 and sort of give it to the people in a way

00:07:38.240 if you think the people want ESG.

00:07:41.780 And the people do.

00:07:42.740 I mean, everybody wants a good environment.

00:07:45.040 They don't necessarily want it this way.

00:07:48.540 All right.

00:07:49.620 Remember I told you that YouTube has this app

00:07:52.840 called YouTube TV?

00:07:54.280 And it's an amazing app.

00:07:55.800 It had only one problem,

00:07:56.940 which is the network that didn't work.

00:08:00.800 And of all the content on there,

00:08:03.260 the only thing that didn't work was Fox News.

00:08:06.100 And it never worked.

00:08:08.260 And YouTube TV tweeted back at me and said,

00:08:11.140 you know, maybe you should uninstall your app

00:08:14.060 and reinstall.

00:08:16.000 And, you know, because I wasn't born yesterday,

00:08:20.940 that never works.

00:08:22.960 Especially when you've used it on like five different devices

00:08:26.180 and you get the same result.

00:08:28.140 You know, especially a brand new phone this week,

00:08:30.640 same result.

00:08:31.720 All the other channels are fine.

00:08:33.560 Just that one channel.

00:08:34.640 So, it's not impossible

00:08:38.460 that somehow the problem was on my end

00:08:41.700 or it was just a technical problem.

00:08:43.140 It's not impossible.

00:08:44.720 Anything's possible.

00:08:46.260 But let's open it up this morning.

00:08:48.600 See if it works.

00:08:49.560 We'll give you a live demonstration

00:08:52.140 of YouTube TV,

00:08:55.480 which has not once been able to show the five

00:08:58.780 without glitching.

00:08:59.820 And let's see what it does after I complained.

00:09:04.920 They're probably going to get what they asked for.

00:09:07.600 It works perfectly.

00:09:09.040 Yeah, that's interesting.

00:09:10.440 And you know, Jessica,

00:09:11.360 the majority of Americans who listen to Biden's speech

00:09:15.020 were...

00:09:15.940 It's all fixed.

00:09:19.320 So, one day, not even one day,

00:09:21.760 but basically the same day that I publicly called it out

00:09:26.020 is the first day that has worked perfectly.

00:09:29.820 How about that?

00:09:32.900 Don't you love your coincidences?

00:09:35.120 Quite a coincidence, wasn't it?

00:09:38.640 By the way, do you know how I got their attention?

00:09:42.320 Did you notice that?

00:09:43.940 How I got their attention?

00:09:46.400 So, I mean, not only that I did this publicly,

00:09:49.060 but I tweeted it.

00:09:50.820 But did you catch the most clever thing I did

00:09:54.560 to get their attention?

00:09:57.400 I don't know if you caught it.

00:09:58.560 So, I did it yesterday on the live stream.

00:10:02.640 Now, the clever thing I did was...

00:10:05.380 And this has to be honest,

00:10:06.840 so I don't recommend lying.

00:10:08.660 I never recommend lying with persuasion.

00:10:11.520 So, if you think I'm saying that, I'm not.

00:10:14.740 Here was the persuasion that I think was

00:10:17.200 maybe not the key, but it was important.

00:10:19.740 I said that the people who developed the YouTube TV

00:10:24.280 did a great job.

00:10:25.780 They really did.

00:10:27.320 It's one of the best apps that I've experienced

00:10:31.380 in terms of the user interface, speed,

00:10:34.700 technical excellence, etc.

00:10:36.840 So, it sort of stood out that this one channel

00:10:40.100 wasn't working.

00:10:41.400 Now, it could be that it was a technical problem

00:10:43.660 because they said there was something wrong with...

00:10:45.980 At one point, I heard there was something wrong

00:10:48.000 with the feed, maybe.

00:10:49.860 And maybe they just solved the technical problem.

00:10:52.940 So, I don't know for sure

00:10:54.140 there was any strange bias or anything like that.

00:10:57.860 Could have been.

00:10:58.780 Could have been just a technical problem.

00:11:00.480 But, in any case, it got fixed.

00:11:03.120 So, I don't know what percentage

00:11:07.680 of total TV traffic the YouTube TV app has,

00:11:12.380 but, yeah, Fox News probably just gained

00:11:17.080 one or two percent in ratings.

00:11:19.960 You're welcome.

00:11:21.080 You're welcome.

00:11:23.180 So, they say one person can't make a difference.

00:11:26.380 How many times have you seen me change something?

00:11:29.060 And, by the way, I don't know for sure

00:11:31.660 if that wasn't a coincidence.

00:11:34.140 Could have been.

00:11:35.400 You can never really rule out coincidence, can you?

00:11:41.080 All right.

00:11:45.940 So, TikTok.

00:11:48.140 Apparently, TikTok is not guaranteeing

00:11:53.460 that they will keep their data away from China.

00:11:56.720 So, TikTok is a Chinese-owned company,

00:12:00.380 which means the government of China

00:12:01.840 has control over them.

00:12:04.600 And we don't want our American user data

00:12:07.280 to get in Chinese hands.

00:12:09.840 But TikTok says,

00:12:11.360 well, you know, we can't really promise

00:12:14.320 that there's no situation whatsoever

00:12:17.680 where they won't get your data.

00:12:19.600 And you know what's the funniest thing

00:12:25.640 about this story?

00:12:27.620 It's a complete diversion.

00:12:32.320 Look at my left hand.

00:12:34.260 Don't pay attention to my right hand.

00:12:36.620 Look at my left hand.

00:12:38.280 Your user data.

00:12:39.940 Oh, let's worry about the user data.

00:12:42.980 Hey, look over here.

00:12:44.200 The user data might get in the wrong hands.

00:12:46.460 Look here.

00:12:47.520 User data.

00:12:48.940 What about no?

00:12:50.100 No, no, no.

00:12:50.780 No, there's nothing else.

00:12:52.100 Let's talk about the user data.

00:12:54.480 What are we forgetting?

00:12:56.660 How about the fact that the entire product

00:12:59.020 is designed as a user interface

00:13:02.120 for brains?

00:13:05.060 It's a user interface

00:13:06.880 for programming brains.

00:13:09.640 Now, it's also other things.

00:13:12.540 It's entertaining.

00:13:13.460 It's social media.

00:13:14.380 It's all those things.

00:13:15.680 But by its nature,

00:13:18.460 I'm not sure if it's by design,

00:13:20.900 but by its nature,

00:13:22.340 you can figure out what people like.

00:13:26.960 You can give them more of it.

00:13:29.880 And do you know how persuasion works?

00:13:32.040 Let me explain it to you.

00:13:34.320 Here are the main things

00:13:35.480 that will persuade you.

00:13:36.520 Number one, repetition.

00:13:41.820 The more you see the same message,

00:13:43.600 the more you think it's true.

00:13:45.100 Or the more you think it's important.

00:13:46.680 Both of those.

00:13:48.180 So can the TikTok interface algorithm

00:13:52.700 decide who gets more of something?

00:13:55.380 Yes.

00:13:56.300 That's the basic element of brainwashing. 0.99

00:13:59.520 What information goes to whom

00:14:02.180 and how often and how much of it.

00:14:04.860 Now, what's the second element

00:14:07.160 of persuasion?

00:14:09.860 Association.

00:14:11.820 Association.

00:14:13.260 Can TikTok make sure

00:14:15.140 that it associates the message

00:14:17.140 with, let's say,

00:14:18.580 couching it in between

00:14:19.860 a bunch of things

00:14:21.560 that are going to make you happy

00:14:22.620 and feel good

00:14:23.380 and you think are true?

00:14:25.220 What would that do

00:14:26.060 to the message that's sandwiched

00:14:27.700 between things that you love

00:14:29.800 and make you happy

00:14:31.140 and put you in a good mood

00:14:32.440 and also you think are true

00:14:34.740 and meaningful and important?

00:14:37.060 And they stick that one little thing

00:14:38.620 in there that you didn't have

00:14:39.480 an opinion on yet.

00:14:40.740 What happens to it?

00:14:42.360 Well, the goodness

00:14:43.520 from the things around it

00:14:45.100 and the feelings associated

00:14:47.020 with those other things

00:14:48.000 now are associated

00:14:50.180 with the new thing.

00:14:52.000 So TikTok

00:14:52.800 has a user interface

00:14:54.740 that can control

00:14:55.520 the quantity and frequency

00:14:57.040 and the association.

00:15:00.900 Now, what else do you need

00:15:02.040 for persuasion?

00:15:08.020 Feedback.

00:15:09.080 One of the most important things

00:15:10.580 and often underappreciated.

00:15:13.920 When a hypnotist does hypnosis

00:15:15.440 in person,

00:15:17.020 a big part of the process,

00:15:18.340 maybe half of it,

00:15:19.540 is observing whether the thing

00:15:21.000 you're doing is working

00:15:21.900 and if it's not working,

00:15:23.740 you change.

00:15:24.620 You try something else.

00:15:25.620 See if that works.

00:15:26.400 Change.

00:15:27.160 See if that works.

00:15:28.880 Now, that's why you can't

00:15:30.120 learn hypnosis by reading a book

00:15:31.740 because reading a book

00:15:34.280 won't let you see the change

00:15:36.080 that's happening.

00:15:37.400 Right?

00:15:37.700 So you're not there in person.

00:15:40.820 You know, in theory,

00:15:41.620 I suppose you could practice

00:15:42.580 and observe,

00:15:43.560 but it doesn't really work too well.

00:15:46.460 So now you've got

00:15:47.500 frequency,

00:15:51.180 you've got association,

00:15:53.640 and feelings,

00:15:54.900 so they can control your feelings.

00:15:56.400 What are the strongest

00:16:01.220 bits of persuasion?

00:16:04.780 What is the number one

00:16:05.840 strongest persuasion?

00:16:08.280 Fear.

00:16:10.080 Fear.

00:16:11.320 Is TikTok able

00:16:13.140 to, let's say,

00:16:15.440 decide that you will see

00:16:16.560 more things that might be scary

00:16:18.740 or fewer things

00:16:20.800 that might be scary?

00:16:22.300 They can control that.

00:16:23.500 Right?

00:16:24.140 They have control over

00:16:25.420 if you see more

00:16:27.100 scary stuff

00:16:28.360 about, let's say,

00:16:29.320 a topic.

00:16:30.440 Yes, they can.

00:16:31.300 Let's take climate change.

00:16:33.260 They can completely control

00:16:34.780 how much fear

00:16:36.600 their customers see

00:16:38.000 or experience.

00:16:40.200 Right?

00:16:40.320 So now they can control that.

00:16:42.540 Now what's the next

00:16:43.240 most important part

00:16:44.260 of persuasion

00:16:46.220 after fear?

00:16:49.140 Well, I often talk about

00:16:50.380 the high ground approach,

00:16:51.900 but the high ground

00:16:52.460 doesn't really apply

00:16:53.240 in social media.

00:16:54.280 This is more of an argument thing.

00:16:56.300 Social media is more

00:16:57.100 of a fire hose.

00:16:57.860 So the high ground

00:16:59.020 doesn't really

00:16:59.600 come into play

00:17:00.540 in that.

00:17:01.400 The next thing

00:17:02.160 that's important

00:17:02.620 is visual persuasion.

00:17:04.800 Visual.

00:17:06.680 TikTok's visual.

00:17:08.900 So they've got visual.

00:17:10.420 They've got fear.

00:17:11.620 They've got control

00:17:13.160 over that.

00:17:13.900 How much you see,

00:17:15.480 what it's associated with,

00:17:17.320 what time you see it.

00:17:18.380 They can even control

00:17:19.180 the time of day.

00:17:20.780 Don't you think

00:17:21.360 that the time of day

00:17:22.440 would determine

00:17:23.620 how acceptable

00:17:25.100 a message is?

00:17:26.720 It would.

00:17:28.100 I've never studied it,

00:17:29.800 but I guarantee it.

00:17:31.740 There's nothing

00:17:32.260 I've even ever looked into,

00:17:34.340 but I guarantee it.

00:17:35.920 The time of day,

00:17:37.440 and based on what else

00:17:38.660 you're doing at that time,

00:17:40.280 completely determines

00:17:41.360 how open you are

00:17:42.120 to a suggestion.

00:17:44.180 Everything from,

00:17:45.340 you know,

00:17:45.760 how hungry you are

00:17:46.700 to how sleepy you are,

00:17:48.040 all of those things

00:17:49.280 work into whether

00:17:50.200 you're open

00:17:50.820 to be suggestible.

00:17:52.760 So now,

00:17:53.680 TikTok knows

00:17:54.460 what's working

00:17:55.100 and what doesn't,

00:17:55.980 because it can

00:17:56.760 observe you directly.

00:17:57.860 It knows if you're

00:17:59.240 clicking on

00:17:59.880 or watching something

00:18:00.760 more or less.

00:18:02.140 It has every element

00:18:03.880 of the human interface

00:18:06.320 for programming a brain.

00:18:09.340 There's nothing missing.

00:18:12.040 Let me say that again.

00:18:14.220 There's no feature missing.

00:18:16.580 They hit every note.

00:18:18.500 Every note.

00:18:19.900 If you were an expert

00:18:22.000 in persuasion,

00:18:23.320 and you said,

00:18:23.820 all right,

00:18:24.080 let's develop

00:18:25.240 a thing

00:18:26.140 to program

00:18:26.760 somebody's mind,

00:18:28.360 you would develop

00:18:29.620 TikTok.

00:18:30.740 That's the exact

00:18:31.860 product you would make

00:18:32.900 if you were designing

00:18:34.040 a brainwashing tool.

00:18:37.400 It would be TikTok.

00:18:39.920 It wouldn't remind you

00:18:41.280 of it.

00:18:42.120 It would be it.

00:18:43.760 Let me say that again.

00:18:45.120 It wouldn't be similar

00:18:46.100 to,

00:18:46.560 it wouldn't remind you

00:18:47.560 of,

00:18:48.320 it would be TikTok

00:18:49.540 if you designed

00:18:51.480 a brainwashing tool.

00:18:54.140 Because what's more

00:18:55.460 important than having

00:18:56.480 all your friends

00:18:57.120 also being brainwashed

00:18:58.260 at the same time?

00:19:00.280 Nothing.

00:19:01.360 Nothing.

00:19:02.520 So that's the next element.

00:19:04.400 The social element

00:19:05.680 of it,

00:19:06.140 that you're part of a team

00:19:07.160 and the team's doing

00:19:08.100 the same thing you are,

00:19:09.300 is super persuasive.

00:19:11.060 I should have put that one

00:19:11.880 maybe at the top.

00:19:13.380 You know,

00:19:13.660 I don't think of that one

00:19:14.520 because I usually think

00:19:15.680 of a one-on-one persuasion.

00:19:17.080 I don't think,

00:19:17.740 so that one escaped me.

00:19:19.460 But I should have said

00:19:20.380 that's near the top

00:19:21.280 or at the top.

00:19:22.480 That it looks like

00:19:23.360 you're on a team

00:19:24.040 and the team is awesome

00:19:25.040 and aren't you glad

00:19:25.940 you're on that team?

00:19:27.080 And whatever that team says

00:19:28.340 is what you want to say too

00:19:29.360 because you're on the team.

00:19:32.060 Now,

00:19:32.500 how many people

00:19:33.080 do you think in Congress

00:19:34.120 understand what I just told you?

00:19:37.340 Think about it.

00:19:38.600 How many members of Congress

00:19:40.300 are with it enough

00:19:43.360 that they would even understand

00:19:45.580 what I just told you?

00:19:47.880 Well,

00:19:48.720 you could practically name them,

00:19:50.440 right?

00:19:50.860 Rand Paul would understand,

00:19:52.800 right?

00:19:54.020 Tom Cotton would understand,

00:19:56.340 of course.

00:19:57.460 You could name,

00:19:58.440 you know,

00:19:58.680 the ones that are obvious.

00:20:00.340 But,

00:20:01.000 do you think that

00:20:02.360 most of them understand?

00:20:04.860 I don't think so.

00:20:06.060 I don't think so.

00:20:06.780 I don't think,

00:20:07.740 I think that,

00:20:10.100 yeah,

00:20:10.880 Thomas Massey would understand,

00:20:12.180 obviously.

00:20:12.500 So there are definitely

00:20:15.820 some super smart members

00:20:17.780 of Congress.

00:20:18.880 There's no doubt about that.

00:20:20.160 You know,

00:20:20.300 we can make fun of them

00:20:21.160 all day long.

00:20:21.860 But there are a number of them

00:20:23.000 who are super smart.

00:20:24.780 Super smart.

00:20:25.500 And I'm not sure

00:20:30.800 they have enough power

00:20:31.760 compared to how much

00:20:33.140 they should.

00:20:34.360 Matt Gaetz would understand,

00:20:35.640 yeah.

00:20:36.040 Now,

00:20:36.260 I'm just,

00:20:36.820 you know,

00:20:37.040 mentioning some people

00:20:39.040 who are more right-leaning.

00:20:40.700 But surely there are people

00:20:42.160 on the left

00:20:42.600 who understand it,

00:20:43.560 but I don't know

00:20:44.040 if they care.

00:20:45.360 Because to them,

00:20:46.200 it might look like

00:20:47.060 things are being persuaded

00:20:48.780 in their direction,

00:20:49.960 which would be,

00:20:51.680 yeah,

00:20:52.780 I would say anybody,

00:20:54.140 anybody who has

00:20:55.300 a legal background

00:20:56.540 and understands,

00:20:58.980 and has seen the app,

00:21:01.080 see,

00:21:01.320 most of Congress

00:21:02.060 has never seen TikTok.

00:21:03.380 Wouldn't you agree?

00:21:05.120 How many members

00:21:06.060 of Congress

00:21:06.640 have actually held

00:21:07.740 TikTok in their hand

00:21:09.060 and scrolled it?

00:21:11.780 I don't know how many.

00:21:13.700 10% maybe?

00:21:15.800 But you wouldn't

00:21:16.800 really understand it

00:21:17.880 unless you felt it.

00:21:19.020 I recently got addicted

00:21:22.300 to Instagram Reels,

00:21:26.500 which is basically TikTok,

00:21:28.140 just the Instagram version.

00:21:30.200 And, you know,

00:21:31.480 I'm sort of keyed

00:21:32.480 into this whole

00:21:33.200 persuasion thing,

00:21:34.140 and my God,

00:21:36.080 do I feel the pull,

00:21:38.300 the actual pull

00:21:39.560 of the swipe one more time

00:21:41.900 because it's learned

00:21:43.060 exactly what to feed me.

00:21:44.600 You want to hear

00:21:45.040 the weirdest one?

00:21:47.480 Here's the weirdest one.

00:21:49.020 I have this sort of strange,

00:21:51.680 you know,

00:21:52.060 I don't know if it's a

00:21:53.000 health-related problem

00:21:54.700 or what,

00:21:55.500 but my hip

00:21:56.480 gets really tight

00:21:58.400 in the morning,

00:21:59.540 so tight

00:22:01.300 that I can't use the stairs

00:22:02.920 for like a few hours.

00:22:04.640 Like,

00:22:04.800 it's just so hard

00:22:05.420 to even walk upstairs.

00:22:06.620 And I'm perfectly healthy.

00:22:08.260 By the afternoon,

00:22:09.200 I can, you know,

00:22:09.700 walk for miles

00:22:10.540 and run up the stairs.

00:22:12.640 But just this weird thing

00:22:14.300 where my,

00:22:15.100 I don't know,

00:22:15.660 it feels like my butt 0.51

00:22:16.540 or my hips 0.63

00:22:17.300 are so tight

00:22:18.540 I can't,

00:22:19.100 I just barely

00:22:19.680 walk upstairs.

00:22:21.440 Now,

00:22:21.760 had you ever heard

00:22:22.600 of that problem

00:22:23.280 before in your whole life?

00:22:24.960 I never have.

00:22:26.040 I've never heard

00:22:26.860 of anybody

00:22:27.240 who had that problem.

00:22:29.240 Never.

00:22:30.440 Never heard

00:22:31.160 of a single person

00:22:31.900 with that problem.

00:22:33.240 My social media

00:22:34.200 is filled

00:22:35.080 with stretching exercises

00:22:37.000 to fix that problem.

00:22:38.560 I've never googled it.

00:22:43.480 I've never,

00:22:44.320 I've never done a search

00:22:45.560 for anything

00:22:46.740 related to that.

00:22:48.500 I've only ever

00:22:49.780 talked about it

00:22:50.680 privately in my home.

00:22:52.600 And all of my social media

00:22:54.040 is giving me solutions.

00:22:56.100 Now,

00:22:56.360 here's the weird part.

00:22:58.240 Not only did it

00:22:59.460 diagnose me,

00:23:01.320 it cured me.

00:23:03.420 The fucking algorithm

00:23:04.900 cured me.

00:23:06.260 It listened to me

00:23:07.340 talk about a problem

00:23:09.040 and it didn't just

00:23:10.720 give me a commercial

00:23:11.980 that was selling me something.

00:23:13.920 It actually gave me

00:23:14.840 something that wasn't

00:23:15.560 a commercial.

00:23:17.760 They're memes,

00:23:18.840 I don't know,

00:23:19.300 they're videos,

00:23:20.220 sort of commercially,

00:23:21.700 but they weren't

00:23:22.300 selling something direct.

00:23:23.960 They were just telling

00:23:24.680 you how to stretch.

00:23:26.920 And I thought,

00:23:28.120 what else can it do?

00:23:30.480 How many other things

00:23:31.500 will you be cured of

00:23:32.760 because your social media

00:23:34.140 listened to you?

00:23:35.560 Let me ask you this.

00:23:38.040 Oh,

00:23:38.380 here's another one.

00:23:39.760 Here's another one.

00:23:42.580 I wanted to see

00:23:43.760 the trend of,

00:23:45.900 I'm not going to say

00:23:46.740 the word out loud

00:23:47.540 because social media

00:23:48.420 won't want me

00:23:49.160 to use the word.

00:23:50.880 But it's a word

00:23:51.700 that starts with S

00:23:52.660 and involves

00:23:54.120 people ending

00:23:55.880 their own existence

00:23:56.940 on this planet.

00:23:58.280 And so I just won't

00:23:58.960 use the word

00:23:59.520 because I don't want

00:24:00.080 to get picked up.

00:24:00.760 So I wanted to do

00:24:02.340 a search

00:24:02.860 to see if people

00:24:04.240 who had

00:24:05.120 a legal

00:24:06.440 doctor-assisted

00:24:08.780 situation

00:24:10.720 to see if that

00:24:12.280 had grown

00:24:12.820 or decreased

00:24:13.980 in popularity.

00:24:15.120 So I was just

00:24:15.740 looking for

00:24:16.380 a general knowledge

00:24:17.440 thing.

00:24:18.840 And

00:24:19.100 my phone

00:24:21.620 wouldn't let me

00:24:22.260 search for it.

00:24:24.440 It wouldn't let me

00:24:25.500 search for it.

00:24:26.140 it would only let

00:24:27.680 me talk to

00:24:28.340 a professional.

00:24:30.900 Let me say it again.

00:24:32.000 It wouldn't let me

00:24:32.820 search for anything

00:24:34.280 on the topic

00:24:35.180 except to talk

00:24:36.500 to a professional.

00:24:37.780 Because I think

00:24:38.760 the algorithm assumed

00:24:39.900 that if I'm looking

00:24:41.520 for that,

00:24:42.180 I might be looking

00:24:42.840 for how to do it.

00:24:45.500 And that wasn't

00:24:46.380 a bad guess.

00:24:47.480 That wasn't.

00:24:48.700 But it was not

00:24:49.400 a bad guess.

00:24:50.980 A lot of people

00:24:51.700 who are going to

00:24:52.060 search for it

00:24:52.560 are looking

00:24:52.840 how to do it.

00:24:54.160 And it comes up

00:24:55.080 with a message instead

00:24:56.080 do you need

00:24:57.100 to talk to somebody?

00:24:58.220 Here's somebody

00:24:58.780 you can talk to.

00:25:01.100 Now,

00:25:02.720 yeah,

00:25:03.060 that's actually good.

00:25:03.860 I have very mixed

00:25:04.960 opinions about this.

00:25:06.180 Very mixed opinions.

00:25:07.740 On one hand,

00:25:08.620 it thwarted me

00:25:09.380 from just looking up

00:25:10.240 some interesting

00:25:10.920 information.

00:25:12.020 I didn't like that.

00:25:13.000 I figured out

00:25:13.600 how to do it

00:25:14.080 just by typing it

00:25:15.020 instead of speaking it.

00:25:16.280 But when I spoke it,

00:25:17.960 it just wouldn't

00:25:18.660 let me get past

00:25:19.340 that look

00:25:21.320 and talk to a professional.

00:25:22.920 Now,

00:25:23.080 I think that was

00:25:23.640 maybe a little

00:25:25.880 heavy-handed.

00:25:26.700 You could argue

00:25:27.280 that one.

00:25:28.420 But given how much,

00:25:30.700 given that the intention

00:25:31.920 of it

00:25:32.500 is so obviously

00:25:33.940 right-minded,

00:25:36.140 I'm a little forgiving

00:25:37.200 about the friction there.

00:25:40.400 So,

00:25:41.020 I don't know,

00:25:41.360 maybe that's the future

00:25:42.200 where the algorithm

00:25:43.580 will find a problem

00:25:45.300 you didn't even know

00:25:46.060 you had

00:25:46.500 and suggest a solution.

00:25:49.420 California's come up

00:25:50.360 with a heat wave

00:25:51.620 ranking system.

00:25:52.600 So,

00:25:53.460 they don't have

00:25:53.800 the details yet.

00:25:54.620 They're going to work

00:25:55.080 on it.

00:25:55.760 But the idea

00:25:56.540 is that in a heat wave,

00:25:57.680 if you have to

00:25:58.480 turn off

00:25:59.720 somebody's electricity,

00:26:01.920 they'll have

00:26:02.440 some structured

00:26:03.420 way to do it.

00:26:04.340 I assume this means

00:26:05.380 that the hospitals

00:26:06.180 keep their power.

00:26:08.000 Maybe some

00:26:08.560 residences don't.

00:26:10.580 And I was trying

00:26:11.120 to imagine

00:26:11.580 where I might show up

00:26:13.100 on the heat wave

00:26:13.900 ranking system.

00:26:15.680 I'm like,

00:26:16.460 well,

00:26:16.800 you know,

00:26:16.980 I'm not in the hospital

00:26:17.920 and I'm not

00:26:20.220 in a senior home.

00:26:26.120 Not a school.

00:26:27.300 Maybe the schools

00:26:27.980 need it first.

00:26:29.240 Maybe medical facilities

00:26:30.740 in general.

00:26:32.640 I'm thinking that

00:26:33.540 by the time

00:26:34.020 you get down to me,

00:26:35.520 I'm kind of

00:26:36.060 in the kill box.

00:26:37.360 I think I'm

00:26:37.760 in the kill box.

00:26:39.580 I think there's

00:26:40.180 going to be a list

00:26:40.760 that says,

00:26:41.260 well,

00:26:41.400 if it gets really hot,

00:26:43.360 it's okay

00:26:43.860 to kill Scott.

00:26:44.880 but save

00:26:47.900 the other people.

00:26:49.400 I think,

00:26:49.840 you know,

00:26:50.020 we can let Scott go.

00:26:51.620 I just feel like

00:26:52.340 I'm going to be

00:26:52.800 on the list

00:26:53.220 toward the bottom.

00:26:53.960 I don't know.

00:26:55.200 It's just me.

00:26:56.800 Well,

00:26:57.140 the Wall Street Journal

00:26:57.740 is reporting

00:26:58.320 what many of you

00:26:59.220 already knew.

00:27:01.940 And by the way,

00:27:02.720 if you live

00:27:03.380 in a place

00:27:03.860 that has lots

00:27:04.780 of immigrants

00:27:05.580 from below the border,

00:27:08.100 you already knew this.

00:27:11.120 The Hispanics 0.99

00:27:12.040 coming over the border,

00:27:13.340 they're not liberal.

00:27:15.500 They're not liberal.

00:27:17.180 They're religious.

00:27:18.940 They care about work,

00:27:21.520 inflation,

00:27:22.300 paychecks,

00:27:23.960 that stuff,

00:27:24.520 education.

00:27:25.540 So it turns out

00:27:26.400 that the move

00:27:28.200 toward the Hispanic 0.88

00:27:29.860 population

00:27:30.500 becoming more

00:27:31.900 and more Republican

00:27:32.660 apparently is

00:27:33.940 quite pronounced.

00:27:35.500 So at this point,

00:27:36.500 it's a thing.

00:27:38.900 Correct me

00:27:39.640 if I'm wrong.

00:27:41.180 How many of you

00:27:41.820 have been watching

00:27:42.360 long enough

00:27:43.000 that you remember

00:27:44.500 me saying

00:27:45.040 this was going

00:27:45.680 to be a thing?

00:27:47.040 Because I can see

00:27:48.000 it forming

00:27:48.520 because I'm a little

00:27:49.440 closer to that community.

00:27:50.960 I just interact

00:27:51.800 with them all the time.

00:27:53.460 I can see it clearly.

00:27:55.460 You can see it

00:27:56.200 clear as day.

00:27:57.360 There's no such thing

00:27:58.600 as a woke Mexican.

00:28:02.620 I'm exaggerating.

00:28:03.940 Of course.

00:28:04.980 Of course I'm exaggerating.

00:28:06.640 But I've never met one.

00:28:07.660 And when I say Mexican,

00:28:09.320 I mean somebody born there.

00:28:10.800 Now they may be

00:28:11.580 American-ized 0.68

00:28:12.700 and they may be

00:28:13.600 they may even be

00:28:14.580 citizens or whatever.

00:28:15.780 But I've never met

00:28:16.740 a woke Mexican.

00:28:18.620 Never.

00:28:19.760 I'm not sure

00:28:20.480 I ever will.

00:28:21.900 Right.

00:28:22.740 So if they're not

00:28:24.040 natural Republicans,

00:28:25.480 I don't know who is.

00:28:27.540 They're so natural

00:28:28.640 Republicans,

00:28:29.760 they even get past

00:28:31.420 the fact that

00:28:32.160 they think Republicans

00:28:33.060 might be a little

00:28:33.800 biased against them.

00:28:34.760 that's how much

00:28:36.800 Republican they are.

00:28:38.300 They're even willing

00:28:38.920 to say,

00:28:39.220 you know,

00:28:40.020 Republicans might

00:28:40.820 not like me,

00:28:41.520 but I sure like

00:28:42.080 low taxes

00:28:42.640 and having a job

00:28:44.180 and stuff.

00:28:45.260 I like that stuff.

00:28:46.280 I like education.

00:28:48.360 So,

00:28:49.400 I think there's

00:28:51.720 going to be more

00:28:52.160 of that.

00:28:54.560 I think that

00:28:55.340 one of the funniest

00:28:56.120 political mistakes,

00:28:57.660 and I think it's

00:28:58.120 a mistake,

00:28:58.960 is the Democrats

00:28:59.840 are apparently

00:29:00.320 funding the extreme

00:29:01.680 mega Republican

00:29:03.680 candidates

00:29:04.360 in the primaries

00:29:05.360 under the clever

00:29:06.800 theory that

00:29:08.440 if their

00:29:09.000 Democrat candidate

00:29:10.360 runs in the

00:29:11.080 general election

00:29:11.720 against the most

00:29:12.540 extreme person,

00:29:14.160 that they've got

00:29:14.680 a real advantage,

00:29:15.520 because nobody

00:29:16.020 wants the extreme

00:29:16.800 person.

00:29:17.940 So much so

00:29:18.700 that they're

00:29:19.300 massively funding

00:29:20.720 the most extreme

00:29:22.500 Republican candidates.

00:29:23.920 So it's Democrats

00:29:24.960 who are funding

00:29:26.820 their opponents

00:29:28.320 to make sure

00:29:29.900 they get the

00:29:30.360 worst opponent,

00:29:31.640 so they have

00:29:32.120 an advantage.

00:29:32.620 What do you

00:29:33.780 think of that

00:29:34.140 idea?

00:29:35.280 Pretty good

00:29:35.940 idea or

00:29:36.500 pretty bad

00:29:37.420 idea?

00:29:39.800 Let me tell

00:29:41.160 you the

00:29:41.720 five-lane

00:29:43.920 persuasion highway

00:29:45.140 that they opened

00:29:45.980 that maybe they

00:29:46.940 haven't noticed

00:29:47.520 yet.

00:29:48.740 And it goes

00:29:49.220 like this.

00:29:50.520 Let's say I'm

00:29:51.080 one of those

00:29:51.580 extreme Republicans

00:29:52.540 who just won

00:29:53.500 the primary.

00:29:54.700 Here's what I

00:29:55.440 would say.

00:29:55.800 I got more

00:29:59.040 donations from

00:30:00.040 Democrats than

00:30:01.120 Republicans.

00:30:04.060 And we're done

00:30:04.780 here.

00:30:07.240 I got the

00:30:07.740 most, or

00:30:08.700 this is better,

00:30:10.600 don't say you

00:30:11.580 got more.

00:30:12.400 Say I got more

00:30:13.500 donations from

00:30:15.680 Democrat sources

00:30:16.620 than any

00:30:17.820 candidate who's

00:30:18.620 run in this

00:30:19.400 state before.

00:30:20.040 And you're

00:30:23.520 done.

00:30:24.840 Because it's

00:30:25.460 true.

00:30:27.080 It's true.

00:30:28.220 Fact check it.

00:30:29.640 Now suppose you

00:30:30.320 fact check it,

00:30:31.780 and then the

00:30:33.280 voters get

00:30:35.200 wise, and the

00:30:36.640 voters catch on

00:30:37.380 to the nuance.

00:30:38.260 They're, wait a

00:30:38.920 minute, the

00:30:39.360 voters say.

00:30:40.480 You said that

00:30:41.400 they funded you,

00:30:42.240 but now that I

00:30:42.820 know the details,

00:30:44.000 really this was a

00:30:44.960 special case.

00:30:46.100 They're really

00:30:46.620 funding you to

00:30:47.900 win the primary,

00:30:49.040 to be better.

00:30:50.480 Voters don't

00:30:51.260 understand that.

00:30:53.380 The ones who do

00:30:54.600 understand that

00:30:55.560 have already made

00:30:57.160 up their mind.

00:30:58.720 If you follow

00:30:59.740 politics enough

00:31:00.700 that you understand

00:31:02.220 the Democrats

00:31:03.040 were trying to

00:31:03.680 fuck with the

00:31:04.280 Republicans, if

00:31:05.420 you understand

00:31:05.940 that, you've

00:31:06.900 already made up

00:31:07.460 your mind who

00:31:07.980 you're going to

00:31:08.300 vote for.

00:31:09.280 If you're anywhere

00:31:10.360 in the hardly

00:31:11.360 paying attention,

00:31:12.300 I could go

00:31:12.760 either way,

00:31:13.420 candidates, the

00:31:14.460 only thing you're

00:31:15.140 going to understand

00:31:15.700 is that the

00:31:16.400 Democrats also

00:31:17.900 supported this

00:31:18.660 Republican.

00:31:19.480 that's what

00:31:21.720 you'll come

00:31:22.140 away with.

00:31:22.900 Because remember,

00:31:23.500 people are only

00:31:24.020 getting 10% of

00:31:25.060 every topic.

00:31:26.560 The 10% of that

00:31:27.580 topic they'll

00:31:28.140 understand is that

00:31:28.920 both sides donated

00:31:29.880 to this guy.

00:31:32.700 I don't know,

00:31:33.120 it looks like one

00:31:34.020 of the biggest

00:31:34.500 political mistakes

00:31:35.580 of all time,

00:31:37.080 and somewhat

00:31:37.500 obvious one.

00:31:39.040 But if they

00:31:41.000 pull it off,

00:31:42.520 I will tell you

00:31:43.760 I was wrong.

00:31:44.220 I will tell you

00:31:45.940 I was wrong

00:31:46.600 if they get

00:31:47.460 away with it,

00:31:48.020 but I think

00:31:48.620 it's going to

00:31:49.040 backfire.

00:31:50.300 So I'm going

00:31:50.760 to bet that

00:31:51.480 the ones who

00:31:52.420 got massive

00:31:53.020 Democrat

00:31:53.420 fundings under

00:31:54.240 this condition,

00:31:55.780 under the

00:31:56.240 following condition,

00:31:57.660 that those

00:31:58.100 candidates recognize

00:31:59.460 that saying that

00:32:00.960 they got the

00:32:01.480 most funding from

00:32:02.420 both sides that

00:32:03.300 anybody ever got

00:32:04.260 is the way to

00:32:06.280 play it.

00:32:06.880 They'd have to

00:32:07.340 play it right.

00:32:08.780 They have to

00:32:09.320 play it right,

00:32:09.880 not just ignore it.

00:32:10.720 But if they

00:32:11.100 play it right,

00:32:12.680 I think they're

00:32:14.020 golden.

00:32:17.420 Mike Cernovich

00:32:18.180 being Mike

00:32:18.980 Cernovich more

00:32:20.900 than anybody

00:32:21.520 has ever been

00:32:22.120 Mike Cernovich.

00:32:24.480 I swear to God,

00:32:25.240 one of the things

00:32:25.640 I love about that

00:32:26.400 guy more than

00:32:26.980 anything is that

00:32:28.080 he's not like

00:32:28.580 anybody else,

00:32:30.040 and he's like

00:32:30.720 aggressively not

00:32:32.020 like anybody else.

00:32:33.440 So it's always

00:32:34.060 interesting.

00:32:35.440 And he tweeted

00:32:36.500 today,

00:32:37.440 the FBI has to

00:32:38.420 be closed down.

00:32:39.420 It's beyond

00:32:40.780 reform.

00:32:41.960 State and local

00:32:42.700 law enforcement

00:32:43.240 can prosecute

00:32:43.960 the real crimes,

00:32:45.440 and parenthetically

00:32:46.240 he says pedophiles

00:32:47.160 like Larry Nassar

00:32:48.040 and Epstein,

00:32:49.400 disband the

00:32:50.060 Stasi. 0.95

00:32:53.400 And when I

00:32:54.280 first read that,

00:32:54.980 I thought,

00:32:55.320 oh, that's too

00:32:55.920 far.

00:32:57.300 That's too far.

00:32:58.580 But then I

00:32:59.140 realized,

00:33:00.200 you know,

00:33:01.520 if you're

00:33:01.960 Cernovich,

00:33:02.800 you understand

00:33:03.540 how things

00:33:04.040 work.

00:33:05.200 And there's

00:33:06.040 no such thing

00:33:06.560 as too far.

00:33:07.800 There's just

00:33:08.420 an opening

00:33:08.800 offer.

00:33:10.080 Right?

00:33:10.840 So opening

00:33:11.700 offer,

00:33:12.540 get rid of

00:33:13.000 them completely.

00:33:14.460 And I

00:33:15.040 agree completely.

00:33:16.480 I'm totally

00:33:17.240 on board.

00:33:18.560 Opening

00:33:18.900 offer is

00:33:19.680 get rid of

00:33:20.060 them completely.

00:33:21.740 Now,

00:33:22.300 it seems like

00:33:22.820 that would be

00:33:23.180 a giant

00:33:23.540 problem,

00:33:24.420 because it

00:33:24.720 would leave,

00:33:25.160 you know,

00:33:25.460 a big gap

00:33:26.120 and things

00:33:27.120 that are covered,

00:33:27.780 and we would

00:33:28.200 want those gaps

00:33:28.860 covered.

00:33:29.520 And I don't

00:33:29.860 think local

00:33:30.560 law enforcement

00:33:31.220 could necessarily

00:33:31.960 fill in.

00:33:33.100 So I don't

00:33:33.520 think this is

00:33:34.040 a practical

00:33:34.580 idea.

00:33:35.780 But as an

00:33:36.620 opening offer,

00:33:37.500 uh-huh,

00:33:38.280 yep,

00:33:38.520 I'm on

00:33:39.520 board.

00:33:40.400 I have no

00:33:41.160 idea how

00:33:41.640 this could

00:33:42.020 be made

00:33:42.400 to work.

00:33:43.260 But on the

00:33:43.740 other hand,

00:33:44.260 the current

00:33:44.620 situation is

00:33:45.620 untenable.

00:33:48.360 You don't

00:33:49.020 really have a

00:33:49.540 choice of

00:33:49.960 continuing the

00:33:50.720 way we are.

00:33:52.180 So the

00:33:52.860 opening offer,

00:33:54.240 completely get

00:33:54.920 rid of them.

00:33:55.600 I'm totally

00:33:56.180 on board with

00:33:56.680 that.

00:33:56.840 here's a

00:33:59.260 sort of an

00:34:01.580 analogy,

00:34:02.440 I guess.

00:34:03.660 When I

00:34:04.020 worked in

00:34:05.040 banking,

00:34:06.560 I'm not

00:34:06.980 sure if this

00:34:07.420 is still

00:34:07.840 true,

00:34:08.800 but if you

00:34:11.420 were a

00:34:11.640 banker,

00:34:12.120 you were

00:34:12.420 required to

00:34:13.140 take,

00:34:13.420 and I

00:34:13.580 can't

00:34:13.760 remember,

00:34:15.000 I think

00:34:17.880 there were

00:34:18.220 some

00:34:18.460 that every

00:34:20.140 employee has

00:34:20.820 to take

00:34:21.140 four consecutive

00:34:21.940 days off in

00:34:22.820 a calendar

00:34:23.260 year.

00:34:23.520 And you

00:34:24.860 say,

00:34:25.120 why is that?

00:34:26.080 I mean,

00:34:26.460 I get that

00:34:26.920 they have to

00:34:27.220 take vacations,

00:34:28.020 but what's

00:34:28.580 important about

00:34:29.300 four consecutive

00:34:30.640 days?

00:34:31.780 And it

00:34:32.120 turns out that

00:34:32.660 there were

00:34:32.900 some ways

00:34:33.600 that employees

00:34:34.220 could steal

00:34:34.940 money from

00:34:35.420 banks that

00:34:36.760 required being

00:34:37.500 there every

00:34:38.020 day to

00:34:38.700 re-falsify the

00:34:40.220 records.

00:34:41.300 So you had to

00:34:41.920 continually re-falsify

00:34:43.280 to move forward

00:34:44.420 your fraud.

00:34:45.680 And so they

00:34:46.200 would make

00:34:46.500 every employee

00:34:47.100 take four days

00:34:47.860 off because

00:34:48.360 they couldn't

00:34:48.940 move forward

00:34:49.600 their fraud

00:34:50.140 while they were

00:34:50.580 gone.

00:34:51.720 And that's

00:34:52.080 how they'd

00:34:52.340 catch them.

00:34:52.920 And they

00:34:53.100 caught a lot of

00:34:53.420 people that

00:34:53.780 way.

00:34:54.160 It actually

00:34:54.660 worked.

00:34:56.020 And I

00:34:56.600 think about

00:34:57.060 that with

00:34:58.340 the FBI.

00:34:59.540 Like,

00:34:59.780 somehow that

00:35:00.280 reminds me of

00:35:01.040 it.

00:35:01.760 Because it's

00:35:02.600 pretty radical

00:35:03.300 to say that

00:35:03.980 you can't

00:35:04.340 even come to

00:35:04.820 work for

00:35:05.300 four days

00:35:05.920 because not

00:35:07.700 only do we

00:35:08.500 suspect that

00:35:09.400 you might try

00:35:10.160 something,

00:35:11.160 but we know

00:35:11.740 you will.

00:35:13.700 So bankers

00:35:14.900 have a very,

00:35:16.840 let's say,

00:35:17.860 a realistic

00:35:18.520 belief about

00:35:19.760 people.

00:35:20.280 They have to.

00:35:21.360 If you're a 0.88

00:35:21.820 banker, you're

00:35:22.380 very realistic

00:35:23.220 about people.

00:35:24.580 Otherwise, you

00:35:25.080 lose all your

00:35:25.560 money.

00:35:26.780 And one of

00:35:27.460 the things that

00:35:27.860 bankers know is

00:35:28.640 it doesn't

00:35:29.060 matter how

00:35:29.500 honest you

00:35:30.060 were when

00:35:30.440 you were

00:35:30.680 hired.

00:35:32.460 You get

00:35:33.100 that?

00:35:33.960 It doesn't

00:35:34.400 matter how

00:35:34.880 honest you

00:35:35.500 were when

00:35:35.900 you were

00:35:36.160 hired.

00:35:37.260 If you see

00:35:38.120 an opportunity

00:35:38.680 to steal

00:35:39.200 money and

00:35:39.580 not get

00:35:39.940 caught,

00:35:41.580 it's going

00:35:43.300 to happen.

00:35:44.240 It's going

00:35:44.860 to happen.

00:35:45.800 Maybe not

00:35:46.440 you, right?

00:35:47.680 Maybe not

00:35:48.140 you.

00:35:48.440 But there

00:35:49.940 will be

00:35:50.160 enough people

00:35:50.760 cycling

00:35:51.200 through that

00:35:51.820 opportunity.

00:35:53.100 Somebody's

00:35:53.580 going to

00:35:53.780 take it.

00:35:55.060 So bankers

00:35:55.660 know that if

00:35:56.140 you leave

00:35:56.480 anything

00:35:56.880 stealable,

00:35:57.680 it'll get

00:35:58.020 stolen.

00:35:59.220 That's

00:35:59.660 probably the

00:36:00.600 most basic

00:36:01.280 banking

00:36:02.460 theory.

00:36:03.720 If it can

00:36:04.280 be stolen,

00:36:04.860 somebody's

00:36:05.180 going to

00:36:05.300 steal it.

00:36:06.260 So that's

00:36:06.860 what the

00:36:07.080 bank does,

00:36:07.640 keeps it

00:36:07.980 from getting

00:36:08.280 stolen.

00:36:08.580 And it

00:36:09.820 seems to

00:36:10.180 me that

00:36:10.740 the FBI,

00:36:12.600 much like

00:36:13.700 Mike Cernovich's

00:36:14.480 point, might

00:36:15.940 be beyond

00:36:16.680 the point

00:36:17.320 where tweaks

00:36:18.760 would make a

00:36:19.380 difference.

00:36:20.460 Because the

00:36:20.840 people doing

00:36:21.520 the tweaking

00:36:22.040 would be the

00:36:22.540 people we

00:36:22.960 didn't trust.

00:36:24.580 So you

00:36:25.060 might have to

00:36:25.700 completely

00:36:26.200 dismantle it

00:36:27.180 and then

00:36:28.820 rebuild it.

00:36:30.540 I mean,

00:36:30.780 maybe you

00:36:31.140 keep the

00:36:31.640 rented space

00:36:32.600 and stuff,

00:36:33.140 I don't know.

00:36:34.180 But you

00:36:34.560 might have to

00:36:34.960 do something

00:36:35.400 closer to

00:36:36.080 destroying it

00:36:36.740 and rebuilding

00:36:37.160 it from

00:36:37.540 scratch.

00:36:38.040 I don't know

00:36:38.320 what that

00:36:38.540 looks like.

00:36:39.520 But it's

00:36:39.900 a conversation

00:36:40.560 as people

00:36:42.060 who don't

00:36:42.380 have any

00:36:42.720 good ideas

00:36:43.280 like to

00:36:43.700 say.

00:36:44.640 It's a

00:36:44.960 conversation

00:36:45.460 the country

00:36:45.920 has to

00:36:46.260 have.

00:36:47.600 You know,

00:36:47.840 the least

00:36:49.020 useful thing

00:36:49.740 a pundit

00:36:51.060 can say?

00:36:52.060 You know,

00:36:52.320 that's the

00:36:52.680 conversation

00:36:53.220 the country

00:36:53.760 needs to

00:36:54.160 have.

00:36:54.880 I just

00:36:55.240 did it

00:36:55.560 because I

00:36:55.860 don't have

00:36:56.100 any idea

00:36:56.580 how to

00:36:56.940 fix anything

00:36:57.380 either.

00:37:03.140 Here's a

00:37:03.840 feeling that

00:37:05.780 I've got.

00:37:07.280 You know,

00:37:07.540 we've got

00:37:07.860 a zillion

00:37:08.820 different

00:37:09.220 topics and

00:37:10.260 there are

00:37:10.780 reasons to

00:37:11.360 vote for

00:37:11.700 one candidate

00:37:12.340 versus another

00:37:13.120 and you

00:37:14.080 could talk

00:37:14.440 forever about

00:37:15.000 all the

00:37:15.280 different ins

00:37:15.840 and outs

00:37:16.240 of advantages

00:37:17.400 and disadvantages.

00:37:19.200 But every

00:37:20.680 now and then

00:37:21.140 there's something

00:37:21.640 that pops out

00:37:22.380 as a single

00:37:23.360 issue where I

00:37:25.300 would just say,

00:37:25.920 okay, I don't

00:37:26.620 care about

00:37:26.980 anything else.

00:37:27.560 I'm just going

00:37:27.920 to vote on

00:37:28.320 that single

00:37:28.780 issue.

00:37:29.820 Probably a lot

00:37:30.600 of Democrats

00:37:31.060 will vote and

00:37:31.900 maybe Republicans

00:37:32.580 do on the

00:37:33.480 issue of

00:37:33.820 abortion.

00:37:34.160 Now, if

00:37:36.680 that was

00:37:37.040 your single

00:37:37.580 issue, I

00:37:38.960 would respect

00:37:39.420 that.

00:37:40.560 It's not

00:37:41.080 mine.

00:37:42.040 It's not my

00:37:42.840 single issue.

00:37:43.700 But if it

00:37:44.280 was yours, if

00:37:45.020 it were yours,

00:37:45.820 I'd respect

00:37:46.660 that.

00:37:47.220 That would be

00:37:47.860 important enough

00:37:48.740 to be a single

00:37:49.860 issue voter on.

00:37:51.280 Immigration,

00:37:51.980 same thing.

00:37:53.180 If you said,

00:37:53.900 I don't care about

00:37:54.340 anything except

00:37:55.060 stopping immigration 1.00

00:37:56.220 or I don't care

00:37:57.720 about anything except

00:37:58.440 stopping inflation,

00:38:00.000 those would be

00:38:00.560 good, pretty good

00:38:02.100 single issue

00:38:02.800 topics.

00:38:04.600 I'm going to

00:38:05.160 give you my

00:38:05.680 single issue

00:38:06.300 topic.

00:38:09.140 What's up with

00:38:09.860 Ray Epps?

00:38:11.980 That's it.

00:38:12.580 That's my whole

00:38:13.020 topic.

00:38:14.600 That's the reason

00:38:15.380 to vote Republican.

00:38:17.680 Because if you

00:38:18.380 vote Republican,

00:38:19.180 there's some chance

00:38:19.820 we might find out

00:38:20.600 what's up with

00:38:21.160 Ray Epps.

00:38:22.300 So if you don't

00:38:23.040 know, Ray Epps

00:38:23.580 was the person

00:38:24.960 who was on

00:38:25.660 video encouraging

00:38:26.780 people to enter

00:38:27.560 the Capitol on

00:38:28.400 January 6th.

00:38:29.520 But he was not

00:38:30.540 arrested.

00:38:30.940 I don't believe

00:38:32.200 his phone was

00:38:32.880 taken, but we

00:38:33.540 don't know that

00:38:34.020 for sure.

00:38:34.740 I don't think

00:38:35.100 we know that,

00:38:36.100 but there's no

00:38:36.580 evidence he was

00:38:37.240 given the same

00:38:38.660 treatment as,

00:38:39.380 let's say,

00:38:39.740 Michael Lindell,

00:38:41.040 who the FBI

00:38:42.120 surrounded and

00:38:43.040 took his phone

00:38:44.140 from him.

00:38:45.000 His phone from

00:38:45.860 which he runs

00:38:46.440 his entire

00:38:46.900 company.

00:38:48.700 Most important

00:38:49.560 tool he has.

00:38:50.140 They just took

00:38:50.560 it from him.

00:38:51.920 And Thomas

00:38:54.820 Massey tweeted

00:38:55.940 this.

00:38:56.880 He said,

00:38:57.260 when Merrick

00:38:58.000 Garland testified

00:38:58.860 in front of the

00:38:59.460 House Judiciary

00:39:00.100 Committee,

00:39:00.940 I showed him

00:39:01.620 this video.

00:39:02.720 He then refused

00:39:03.540 to answer,

00:39:04.180 the video was

00:39:04.860 about Ray Epps,

00:39:05.500 I believe.

00:39:06.320 He then refused

00:39:07.180 to answer my

00:39:07.720 question of how

00:39:08.860 many agents or

00:39:09.880 assets of the

00:39:10.680 federal government

00:39:11.340 were present on

00:39:12.300 January 5th and

00:39:13.220 6th.

00:39:14.300 And I'd sort of

00:39:15.600 forgotten that the

00:39:16.860 government had

00:39:17.600 confirmed that they

00:39:18.820 were part of that.

00:39:20.380 And when I say

00:39:21.260 confirmed, by refusing

00:39:22.800 to say they

00:39:24.200 weren't.

00:39:25.360 To me, I accept

00:39:26.200 that as a

00:39:26.720 confirmation.

00:39:27.080 Now, we don't

00:39:28.040 know how much.

00:39:29.640 If it was, you

00:39:30.320 know, just a

00:39:31.120 little, I'd say,

00:39:32.240 oh, okay, that

00:39:32.780 didn't matter.

00:39:33.820 If it were a

00:39:34.680 lot, then I

00:39:36.160 would say that's

00:39:36.680 the whole story.

00:39:38.720 And so,

00:39:40.020 I,

00:39:41.280 independent of

00:39:43.200 whether it

00:39:43.740 matters that

00:39:44.860 Ray Epps was or

00:39:45.860 was not part of

00:39:46.900 the FBI,

00:39:47.840 independent of

00:39:48.520 whether that

00:39:48.920 matters and

00:39:49.400 independent of

00:39:49.940 what he did,

00:39:50.720 the fact that

00:39:51.400 your government

00:39:51.900 won't tell you,

00:39:52.680 this is the

00:39:54.720 central question

00:39:55.580 of the

00:39:55.980 republic.

00:39:57.600 And let me

00:39:58.020 say this.

00:39:59.120 If it turns out

00:39:59.840 that Ray Epps

00:40:00.380 was nothing but

00:40:01.320 a patriot who

00:40:03.260 was trying to

00:40:03.920 make his

00:40:04.420 beliefs known,

00:40:05.980 which is

00:40:06.980 entirely possible,

00:40:09.100 does anybody

00:40:09.560 rule out that

00:40:10.740 it's possible

00:40:11.500 he's just a

00:40:12.240 patriot?

00:40:13.720 It's possible,

00:40:15.400 isn't it?

00:40:16.480 It's possible.

00:40:19.560 I know you

00:40:20.380 think probably

00:40:21.020 not.

00:40:21.440 I'm not going

00:40:22.560 to argue it

00:40:23.020 probably,

00:40:24.360 but it's

00:40:24.800 possible.

00:40:26.780 Right?

00:40:27.060 It's possible.

00:40:29.120 So,

00:40:30.220 I would say

00:40:32.000 that if he's

00:40:33.140 legit,

00:40:34.020 and if,

00:40:34.700 and a related

00:40:35.580 question,

00:40:36.580 if he was

00:40:37.340 legit,

00:40:37.880 as in not a

00:40:38.540 Fed,

00:40:39.380 and the

00:40:40.040 Feds ever

00:40:40.600 give us an

00:40:41.280 honest answer

00:40:41.960 about their

00:40:42.460 involvement,

00:40:43.900 then I would

00:40:44.400 say,

00:40:44.660 you know,

00:40:45.960 it looks like

00:40:46.900 Trump might

00:40:47.920 not be the

00:40:48.440 best solution

00:40:49.280 for the

00:40:49.660 country,

00:40:50.340 because he

00:40:51.100 was involved

00:40:51.620 in this,

00:40:52.120 and even

00:40:52.560 if you

00:40:52.860 want to

00:40:53.160 excuse his

00:40:53.880 behavior,

00:40:55.100 he's just

00:40:55.700 part of

00:40:56.360 his big

00:40:56.880 ugly thing,

00:40:58.140 there would

00:40:58.480 be a blight

00:40:59.240 on the

00:40:59.560 republic,

00:41:00.320 and maybe

00:41:00.980 we should

00:41:01.420 just move

00:41:01.840 on,

00:41:02.460 clear the

00:41:04.060 slate,

00:41:05.380 just start

00:41:05.820 with a

00:41:06.260 clean plate.

00:41:08.180 I can see

00:41:08.680 that.

00:41:10.660 But,

00:41:11.540 if it turns

00:41:13.080 out that we

00:41:13.740 are not being

00:41:14.400 told what

00:41:14.980 Ray Epps

00:41:15.380 was up to,

00:41:16.120 or any

00:41:17.140 other federal

00:41:18.020 assets,

00:41:18.600 if they

00:41:18.900 were there,

00:41:19.560 if we're

00:41:19.960 not going

00:41:20.340 to be

00:41:20.520 told that,

00:41:21.600 then that's

00:41:23.160 my one

00:41:23.540 issue.

00:41:25.340 Then I

00:41:25.900 could support

00:41:26.900 Trump.

00:41:27.880 Even if

00:41:28.500 everything about

00:41:29.280 him that you

00:41:29.880 say is true

00:41:30.420 is true.

00:41:33.380 Even if he

00:41:34.120 had secrets he

00:41:35.180 shouldn't have

00:41:35.540 had in

00:41:35.980 Bar-a-Lago,

00:41:37.460 even if he

00:41:38.740 is guilty of

00:41:41.240 some minor

00:41:42.360 financial

00:41:43.280 campaign thing,

00:41:45.920 I don't know,

00:41:47.340 I wouldn't

00:41:47.700 care about

00:41:48.060 any of it.

00:41:49.380 Because if

00:41:49.980 your republic

00:41:50.540 won't tell

00:41:51.140 you if

00:41:51.700 they're the

00:41:52.100 ones who

00:41:52.640 did the

00:41:53.220 treason,

00:41:54.680 because that

00:41:55.120 would have

00:41:55.340 been,

00:41:56.120 if the

00:41:56.780 FBI was

00:41:57.440 that involved,

00:41:58.480 as much as

00:41:59.420 the people

00:42:00.080 on the

00:42:00.360 right like

00:42:00.980 to think,

00:42:01.600 if they

00:42:02.000 were,

00:42:03.180 then that

00:42:03.580 was treason.

00:42:05.960 Wasn't it?

00:42:07.220 I mean,

00:42:07.680 it was a

00:42:08.480 form of

00:42:08.800 treason.

00:42:09.620 If they

00:42:10.280 weren't,

00:42:11.240 then it

00:42:11.860 looks more

00:42:12.880 like the

00:42:13.220 argument that

00:42:13.900 the badness

00:42:15.020 was all

00:42:15.380 in the

00:42:15.580 right.

00:42:16.840 But we

00:42:17.520 need to

00:42:17.860 know that.

00:42:19.680 We don't

00:42:20.540 need to

00:42:20.860 just pass

00:42:22.020 that.

00:42:23.700 That's a

00:42:24.320 do not

00:42:24.720 pass Ray

00:42:25.340 Epps,

00:42:25.880 you don't

00:42:26.780 get to

00:42:27.080 go anywhere

00:42:27.500 else.

00:42:28.920 So that

00:42:29.340 would be

00:42:29.720 my stopping

00:42:31.000 point,

00:42:31.380 my single

00:42:31.860 point.

00:42:32.640 I need

00:42:33.060 to know

00:42:33.340 an answer

00:42:33.680 to that

00:42:33.960 question.

00:42:34.560 I need

00:42:34.860 to know

00:42:35.100 the answer

00:42:35.460 to Thomas

00:42:36.040 Massey's

00:42:36.560 question.

00:42:37.540 And if

00:42:37.920 I don't

00:42:38.260 get an

00:42:38.580 answer,

00:42:39.020 I'm all

00:42:39.460 Republican.

00:42:39.940 I'm not

00:42:41.380 a Republican,

00:42:42.120 but I'll

00:42:42.800 support whoever

00:42:44.280 the Republican

00:42:44.940 candidate is.

00:42:45.880 I don't

00:42:46.060 care who

00:42:46.360 it is.

00:42:47.780 But they've

00:42:48.280 got a promise

00:42:49.000 that they're

00:42:49.440 going to get

00:42:49.720 to the

00:42:49.960 bottom of

00:42:50.280 this.

00:42:51.120 If the

00:42:51.480 Republican

00:42:51.860 candidate

00:42:52.300 said,

00:42:52.680 hey,

00:42:52.840 we have

00:42:53.140 to leave

00:42:53.460 it in the

00:42:53.720 past,

00:42:54.080 then I'm

00:42:54.240 like,

00:42:54.400 okay,

00:42:54.700 that's

00:42:54.860 different.

00:42:55.640 So

00:42:55.800 basically

00:42:56.280 neither of

00:42:56.820 you have

00:42:57.040 an idea.

00:42:58.280 But this

00:42:59.460 is it.

00:43:01.060 I want

00:43:01.720 to know

00:43:02.060 if he's

00:43:02.500 just a

00:43:02.840 patriot.

00:43:03.960 Because if

00:43:04.520 he is,

00:43:05.100 then maybe

00:43:05.560 I'll

00:43:05.840 disbelieve a

00:43:06.860 lot of

00:43:07.120 the things

00:43:07.500 that the

00:43:07.860 Republicans

00:43:08.260 say.

00:43:09.200 Or a

00:43:09.560 lot more.

00:43:11.560 Will I

00:43:12.260 actually vote?

00:43:13.280 Probably not.

00:43:14.440 But I would

00:43:15.480 definitely make

00:43:16.140 noise.

00:43:18.240 And I

00:43:19.600 think that

00:43:19.920 would be a

00:43:20.700 legitimate

00:43:21.680 single topic

00:43:24.300 vote.

00:43:25.520 You have to

00:43:26.180 tell us this

00:43:27.240 is the minimum

00:43:27.880 we need to

00:43:28.460 know is do

00:43:29.740 we have a

00:43:30.260 republic still.

00:43:31.040 Am I wrong?

00:43:33.480 The minimum

00:43:34.020 you need to

00:43:34.680 know as

00:43:35.640 a citizen,

00:43:37.060 does the

00:43:37.300 republic still

00:43:38.660 exist?

00:43:39.880 Because remember

00:43:40.760 they did

00:43:41.240 show their

00:43:41.640 hand with

00:43:42.200 that 50 0.91

00:43:43.100 current and

00:43:46.000 prior intel

00:43:46.820 people who

00:43:47.420 said the

00:43:47.800 laptop was

00:43:48.400 fake.

00:43:49.540 Once we

00:43:50.140 saw that,

00:43:51.200 and now we

00:43:51.620 know for

00:43:51.980 sure that

00:43:52.340 that was

00:43:52.700 an op,

00:43:53.880 that was

00:43:54.560 our

00:43:54.740 intelligence

00:43:55.240 people running

00:43:56.540 an op on

00:43:57.320 the public.

00:43:58.980 That was

00:43:59.680 real.

00:44:00.560 That's

00:44:00.920 confirmed.

00:44:01.860 We know

00:44:02.280 that to

00:44:02.620 be true.

00:44:03.560 We don't

00:44:03.880 have to

00:44:04.140 guess.

00:44:05.500 Given that

00:44:06.040 that was

00:44:06.360 true, we

00:44:08.040 don't know

00:44:08.500 if we have

00:44:08.940 a republic.

00:44:10.600 And I

00:44:10.860 would say

00:44:11.220 that the

00:44:11.800 answer to

00:44:12.220 this whole

00:44:12.620 Ray Epps

00:44:13.120 plus any

00:44:14.300 other FBI

00:44:15.060 assets that

00:44:15.780 were not

00:44:16.340 there, the

00:44:17.520 answer to

00:44:18.080 that question

00:44:18.740 tells you

00:44:20.240 if you have

00:44:20.640 a republic.

00:44:23.500 Am I

00:44:24.120 wrong?

00:44:25.800 Let's

00:44:26.280 not, don't

00:44:27.180 make us think

00:44:27.740 past the

00:44:28.180 sale.

00:44:28.960 Do we

00:44:29.420 still have

00:44:29.860 a republic

00:44:30.260 or has

00:44:31.800 the deep

00:44:32.200 state

00:44:32.580 completely

00:44:33.620 taken over?

00:44:35.260 Have they

00:44:35.580 completely

00:44:35.980 taken over?

00:44:39.560 And I

00:44:40.120 would think

00:44:40.420 that this

00:44:40.920 would be

00:44:41.140 an interesting

00:44:41.620 appeal to

00:44:42.260 independent

00:44:42.780 voters because

00:44:44.100 I would, if

00:44:45.140 I were a

00:44:45.560 republican

00:44:45.860 especially, I'd

00:44:47.400 say, here's

00:44:48.060 the deal.

00:44:49.220 All of you

00:44:49.800 independent

00:44:50.260 voters, I

00:44:51.840 know you

00:44:52.160 can go

00:44:52.520 either way.

00:44:53.280 That's what

00:44:53.680 makes you

00:44:54.000 independent

00:44:54.380 voters.

00:44:54.920 In reality,

00:44:55.600 they usually

00:44:56.200 go the way

00:44:56.700 they always

00:44:57.360 lean.

00:44:58.200 But there

00:44:58.540 might be a

00:44:58.900 few.

00:44:59.740 You say to

00:45:00.140 look, I'm

00:45:01.120 going to

00:45:01.300 find out

00:45:01.740 what happened

00:45:02.280 with the

00:45:02.660 FBI and

00:45:03.700 Ray Epps

00:45:04.160 if I'm

00:45:04.640 president.

00:45:06.340 Whatever it

00:45:06.980 is, whatever

00:45:08.820 the answer is,

00:45:09.620 we're going to

00:45:09.960 live with that.

00:45:11.000 But we're

00:45:11.360 going to find

00:45:11.800 out.

00:45:12.960 You

00:45:13.200 independents,

00:45:14.060 that's the

00:45:14.380 only way you're

00:45:14.800 going to find

00:45:15.140 out?

00:45:16.160 If we still

00:45:16.920 have a

00:45:17.220 republic.

00:45:18.420 I will tell

00:45:19.260 you if you

00:45:19.760 still have a

00:45:20.260 republic, but

00:45:20.820 you've got to

00:45:21.140 get me into

00:45:21.540 the presidency

00:45:22.100 to do that.

00:45:24.520 Because I

00:45:25.100 kind of am

00:45:25.960 very curious.

00:45:26.840 And here's

00:45:28.260 the persuasion

00:45:28.960 angle on

00:45:29.460 this.

00:45:30.500 Curiosity is

00:45:32.440 the most

00:45:32.860 underrated

00:45:33.680 persuasion

00:45:35.080 energy.

00:45:39.060 Have you

00:45:39.380 ever done

00:45:39.740 something stupid

00:45:40.560 because you

00:45:41.080 were curious?

00:45:44.600 Oh, yeah,

00:45:45.360 you have.

00:45:47.320 Yeah, you

00:45:47.980 have.

00:45:48.540 If you're

00:45:49.100 human.

00:45:50.520 Yeah.

00:45:51.900 Have you

00:45:52.440 ever been

00:45:52.820 obsessed by

00:45:54.780 something because

00:45:55.380 you didn't know

00:45:55.760 the answer and

00:45:56.540 you just had

00:45:57.040 to know because

00:45:58.240 you're so

00:45:58.540 curious?

00:45:59.680 Of course.

00:46:00.700 We're born to

00:46:02.540 be obsessed by

00:46:03.940 those things that

00:46:04.660 are not answered

00:46:05.320 and yet important.

00:46:07.120 You're designed

00:46:07.740 that way.

00:46:09.000 So I've

00:46:10.740 never, I can't

00:46:11.720 think of any

00:46:12.220 politician who's

00:46:12.960 ever taken

00:46:13.380 advantage of

00:46:13.960 that.

00:46:14.280 But authors do

00:46:15.140 all the time.

00:46:16.140 If you read a

00:46:17.060 Harry Potter

00:46:17.620 novel, at the

00:46:18.920 end of each

00:46:19.380 chapter there's

00:46:20.060 like a little

00:46:20.440 mystery.

00:46:21.420 Like where did

00:46:21.920 that sound come

00:46:22.760 from and why

00:46:23.960 does that happen?

00:46:26.540 I'm going to

00:46:31.260 get back to

00:46:31.660 your question,

00:46:32.280 Carpe.

00:46:33.620 So anyway, I

00:46:36.360 think that if

00:46:37.500 the Republican

00:46:38.540 candidate says,

00:46:39.520 look, we've got

00:46:40.400 this mystery, we

00:46:41.320 don't know if we

00:46:41.980 still have a

00:46:42.460 republic, but I'll

00:46:43.800 get to the

00:46:44.220 bottom of it.

00:46:44.820 I'll answer the

00:46:45.560 question for you.

00:46:47.040 That would be

00:46:47.720 really, really

00:46:48.560 motivating to me

00:46:49.480 because curiosity

00:46:51.180 is a real

00:46:52.040 driving force.

00:46:52.880 All right, so

00:46:56.100 Carpe Donctum

00:46:57.460 just asked

00:46:58.660 the question,

00:46:59.520 if I used my

00:47:00.260 persuasion

00:47:00.980 abilities for

00:47:03.560 two years and

00:47:04.420 really worked on

00:47:05.160 reducing the

00:47:06.000 homeless problem

00:47:06.740 in California,

00:47:07.580 could I do it?

00:47:08.680 The answer is

00:47:09.220 no, I couldn't

00:47:09.880 even come close.

00:47:11.300 No, that would

00:47:12.140 be completely

00:47:12.920 impossible because

00:47:15.540 I can't talk to

00:47:16.760 the homeless.

00:47:18.560 And if I did,

00:47:19.460 they would say,

00:47:20.860 we choose to be

00:47:21.860 here.

00:47:23.300 Because we like

00:47:24.200 drugs, and if

00:47:25.300 you put us

00:47:25.720 indoors anywhere,

00:47:26.520 they're not

00:47:26.760 going to let us

00:47:27.120 do drugs.

00:47:28.600 So all things

00:47:29.480 being equal, I'd

00:47:30.260 rather be drugged

00:47:31.000 than on the

00:47:31.340 street, thank you

00:47:32.540 very much.

00:47:33.740 So no, there's

00:47:34.360 nothing I can

00:47:34.860 persuade.

00:47:35.580 Because you

00:47:36.220 can't persuade

00:47:36.780 people to do

00:47:37.460 something that's

00:47:38.020 bad for them

00:47:38.660 and they know

00:47:39.080 it.

00:47:40.380 The street

00:47:40.860 people know

00:47:41.400 what they

00:47:41.820 prefer.

00:47:42.980 If you think

00:47:43.760 that they're

00:47:44.280 wrong, so

00:47:46.800 what?

00:47:48.800 You think I'm

00:47:49.820 wrong, too.

00:47:51.100 Do you get a

00:47:51.740 vote?

00:47:52.880 How many of

00:47:53.620 you think I

00:47:54.140 shouldn't have a

00:47:54.940 third cup of

00:47:55.540 coffee today?

00:47:56.200 Somebody.

00:47:57.140 There's somebody

00:47:57.620 who thinks I

00:47:58.140 shouldn't have a

00:47:58.620 third cup of

00:47:59.260 coffee today.

00:48:00.600 Do you get a

00:48:01.420 vote?

00:48:02.020 No, you don't

00:48:02.500 get a vote.

00:48:03.800 Only I get a

00:48:04.620 vote.

00:48:05.720 The street people

00:48:06.400 don't care what

00:48:06.940 you think.

00:48:07.900 They only care what

00:48:08.620 they think.

00:48:09.840 And in their

00:48:10.340 opinion, as

00:48:11.640 living human

00:48:13.080 beings on the

00:48:13.780 planet Earth, and

00:48:14.700 mostly citizens of

00:48:16.320 America, they've

00:48:17.620 looked at their

00:48:18.080 options and they

00:48:18.760 say, you know, I

00:48:19.720 like being on

00:48:20.360 drugs and being

00:48:21.020 outdoors, compared

00:48:22.620 to being off

00:48:24.000 drugs and being

00:48:24.640 indoors.

00:48:27.900 They get to do

00:48:28.840 that.

00:48:29.400 That's their

00:48:29.900 choice.

00:48:30.540 So no, you

00:48:31.140 can't persuade

00:48:31.760 people to do

00:48:32.540 something that is

00:48:34.220 against their

00:48:34.720 interest as they

00:48:36.360 see it.

00:48:37.160 You could argue

00:48:38.180 that they should

00:48:39.780 see it differently,

00:48:40.720 but you can't

00:48:41.280 persuade people

00:48:41.980 against their own

00:48:42.660 self-interest.

00:48:44.740 Not really.

00:48:46.460 I mean, that's

00:48:46.780 the hardest

00:48:47.400 persuasion.

00:48:48.100 So no, I don't

00:48:48.980 think I could make

00:48:49.600 a dent in that.

00:48:50.680 I could work

00:48:51.340 around the

00:48:51.740 edges.

00:48:53.320 I could work

00:48:54.080 around the

00:48:54.480 edges, but I

00:48:56.140 couldn't just

00:48:57.040 clear the streets.

00:48:58.060 There's nobody

00:48:58.540 who could do

00:48:58.940 that with

00:48:59.240 persuasion.

00:49:01.600 That actually

00:49:02.280 has to be

00:49:02.700 force.

00:49:03.720 If you were

00:49:04.260 going to do

00:49:04.600 it, it would

00:49:04.940 be with

00:49:05.360 government

00:49:06.160 force.

00:49:07.120 We're going

00:49:07.580 to put you

00:49:07.920 in this

00:49:08.220 home for 30

00:49:09.500 days after that.

00:49:10.680 You're on your

00:49:11.060 own, but we're

00:49:11.880 going to at

00:49:12.160 least try to

00:49:12.560 fix you.

00:49:13.080 Something like

00:49:13.480 that.

00:49:14.200 You could argue

00:49:14.780 about the

00:49:15.360 ethics of

00:49:17.200 that.

00:49:18.420 All right.

00:49:19.700 Question.

00:49:21.040 If you were a

00:49:21.900 January 6th

00:49:22.660 defendant, why

00:49:25.180 can't you call

00:49:25.760 Ray Epps?

00:49:27.640 What am I

00:49:28.280 missing?

00:49:30.120 Is there a

00:49:30.800 lawyer here who

00:49:31.400 can answer that

00:49:31.900 question?

00:49:32.660 If I'm a

00:49:33.420 January 6th

00:49:34.420 defendant, I'm

00:49:35.160 still in jail,

00:49:36.400 I'm mounting

00:49:36.940 my defense, you

00:49:38.520 tell me I can't

00:49:39.260 call Ray Epps,

00:49:40.900 put him on the

00:49:41.540 stand, find out

00:49:43.420 if he's the

00:49:43.820 Fed?

00:49:45.360 That's not

00:49:47.120 relevant to my

00:49:48.100 defense.

00:49:49.700 Because here's

00:49:50.700 the argument.

00:49:52.020 The entire

00:49:52.560 argument is about

00:49:53.460 incitement to

00:49:55.580 riot.

00:49:56.560 It's not about

00:49:57.320 the riot.

00:49:58.520 It's also about

00:49:59.380 the riot.

00:50:00.240 But it's the

00:50:02.320 incitement.

00:50:03.700 The whole

00:50:04.340 question is, did

00:50:05.160 Trump incite a

00:50:06.260 riot?

00:50:08.040 Don't you need to

00:50:09.480 know all the

00:50:10.080 sources of

00:50:10.660 incitement?

00:50:11.120 If the

00:50:12.380 question is, did

00:50:13.220 somebody incite

00:50:14.180 it?

00:50:14.960 Well, you've

00:50:15.380 got to put on

00:50:15.960 the table all

00:50:16.700 the potential

00:50:17.300 people who

00:50:18.040 could have been

00:50:18.480 inciting it and

00:50:19.740 see which one

00:50:20.400 was doing the

00:50:21.340 inciting.

00:50:22.820 So if it's

00:50:23.720 illegal for a

00:50:24.800 president to

00:50:25.380 incite a riot,

00:50:27.200 well, certainly

00:50:27.840 it's illegal for

00:50:28.600 the FBI to do

00:50:29.460 it.

00:50:30.400 Wouldn't you

00:50:31.000 say?

00:50:32.400 Now, suppose the

00:50:34.780 courts say you

00:50:35.600 can't put Ray

00:50:36.380 Epps on the

00:50:36.860 stand because

00:50:37.560 there's no

00:50:39.100 evidence that he's

00:50:40.020 part of the

00:50:40.520 FBI, to

00:50:42.440 which I say I

00:50:43.380 don't get to

00:50:44.100 find out for

00:50:45.140 myself what's

00:50:45.820 true.

00:50:46.960 I don't get to

00:50:48.000 ask him in

00:50:48.520 public.

00:50:50.080 I would put

00:50:51.020 Garland on the

00:50:52.040 stand.

00:50:53.340 If I were a

00:50:54.220 January 6th

00:50:54.940 defendant, I

00:50:55.700 would put the

00:50:56.680 attorney general

00:50:57.520 on the stand.

00:50:59.240 I'd put them

00:50:59.920 all on the

00:51:00.280 stand.

00:51:00.460 I'd put the

00:51:00.820 government on

00:51:01.320 the stand.

00:51:01.920 Because in my

00:51:02.860 opinion, incitement

00:51:05.700 is incitement.

00:51:06.800 And I'd make

00:51:07.260 sure that everybody

00:51:07.960 saw all the

00:51:08.520 incitement from

00:51:09.220 all the sources.

00:51:10.020 I would put

00:51:11.060 the ex-head

00:51:12.520 Zucker of

00:51:14.340 CNN on the

00:51:15.440 stand.

00:51:16.840 And I'd say,

00:51:17.800 do you think

00:51:18.600 you incited

00:51:19.220 anybody?

00:51:22.620 Yeah.

00:51:23.500 Or Ray,

00:51:24.180 yeah.

00:51:25.100 I'd basically

00:51:25.920 put the whole

00:51:26.440 fucking government

00:51:27.120 on the stand.

00:51:28.600 Now, I don't

00:51:29.180 know if the

00:51:29.720 judge would

00:51:30.300 allow any of

00:51:31.080 that.

00:51:32.420 But if they

00:51:33.580 didn't at

00:51:34.120 least allow the

00:51:34.960 FBI or Ray

00:51:36.200 Epps or

00:51:36.560 somebody, I

00:51:38.860 don't see how

00:51:39.460 you could have

00:51:39.900 a trial.

00:51:41.240 I mean, I

00:51:41.680 feel like that

00:51:42.260 has to go to

00:51:42.800 the Supreme

00:51:43.280 Court if

00:51:43.920 you don't

00:51:44.180 get that.

00:51:47.900 All right.

00:51:49.920 You'd do

00:51:50.440 nothing in

00:51:51.380 D.C.

00:51:51.880 You'd sit

00:51:52.340 and rot.

00:51:52.860 Good luck.

00:51:53.580 Yeah, I

00:51:54.020 suppose if

00:51:54.620 you're in

00:51:54.840 D.C.

00:51:55.220 it's a

00:51:55.540 tougher

00:51:55.780 sell.

00:51:56.460 So, you

00:52:01.220 know, this

00:52:01.540 Inflation

00:52:02.000 Reduction

00:52:02.480 Act, and

00:52:03.540 my first

00:52:04.040 opinion of

00:52:04.620 it was,

00:52:05.460 well, there's

00:52:06.060 some stuff

00:52:06.500 in there I

00:52:06.960 probably don't

00:52:07.440 like, but

00:52:09.120 at least it

00:52:10.340 was a

00:52:10.720 full-throated

00:52:11.520 financial

00:52:13.080 endorsement of

00:52:14.140 nuclear energy.

00:52:15.960 And I said

00:52:16.480 to myself,

00:52:17.000 well, you

00:52:18.560 know, nothing's

00:52:19.260 perfect, but

00:52:20.500 that's so

00:52:21.000 important that

00:52:22.460 the bill

00:52:23.200 produced, you

00:52:24.480 know, major

00:52:24.840 funding to

00:52:25.640 encourage the

00:52:27.740 nuclear energy

00:52:28.480 business.

00:52:29.480 I thought,

00:52:29.960 well, that's,

00:52:30.900 you know, that's

00:52:31.840 so important

00:52:32.740 that maybe I

00:52:34.460 can live with

00:52:34.980 this other

00:52:35.360 stuff that I

00:52:36.260 don't like.

00:52:37.680 And then I

00:52:38.260 saw an

00:52:39.240 Alex Epstein

00:52:40.220 tweet thread,

00:52:41.920 the 12 myths

00:52:42.860 about the

00:52:43.420 terrible

00:52:43.760 Inflation

00:52:44.280 Reduction

00:52:44.760 Act.

00:52:47.260 And it

00:52:48.100 turns out

00:52:48.660 that it's

00:52:49.020 not going to

00:52:49.420 help nuclear

00:52:50.020 energy at

00:52:50.800 all.

00:52:51.040 It's a

00:52:52.680 trick.

00:52:53.840 The trick

00:52:54.500 is this.

00:52:55.640 It doesn't

00:52:56.260 matter how

00:52:56.740 much money

00:52:57.280 you throw

00:52:57.700 at nuclear,

00:52:58.680 they can't

00:52:59.340 get anything

00:52:59.720 approved.

00:53:01.180 Nothing's

00:53:01.680 ever been

00:53:02.060 approved by

00:53:02.760 the entities

00:53:03.300 that approve

00:53:03.840 nuclear power

00:53:05.840 plants today.

00:53:07.400 Let me say

00:53:07.840 that again.

00:53:08.760 The entity

00:53:09.320 that exists

00:53:10.400 today to

00:53:11.080 approve nuclear

00:53:12.400 power plants

00:53:13.080 has never

00:53:14.520 approved one

00:53:15.280 to completion.

00:53:17.520 Zero.

00:53:18.980 Zero.

00:53:20.340 So we

00:53:20.920 have a

00:53:21.220 system that

00:53:21.780 allows zero

00:53:22.880 things to

00:53:23.640 get through

00:53:24.040 it.

00:53:24.820 But if

00:53:25.240 they did,

00:53:26.540 well, how

00:53:27.000 about that

00:53:27.340 funding?

00:53:28.640 So do you

00:53:29.040 know what

00:53:29.280 the nuclear

00:53:30.040 funding was

00:53:30.820 about?

00:53:32.240 It was a

00:53:33.060 fucking trick

00:53:33.960 to get more

00:53:35.240 funding for

00:53:35.820 green.

00:53:36.800 Because the

00:53:37.340 money is in

00:53:37.800 one pot,

00:53:38.560 I think.

00:53:39.360 Not positive,

00:53:40.120 but I think

00:53:40.360 the money is

00:53:40.760 in one pot.

00:53:42.500 And if the

00:53:43.240 nuclear project

00:53:44.120 had a great

00:53:44.680 idea and they

00:53:45.320 had approval,

00:53:46.000 well, they

00:53:46.280 could get

00:53:46.580 some of it.

00:53:48.000 But they

00:53:48.560 can't,

00:53:49.460 because they'll

00:53:49.820 never get

00:53:50.140 approval.

00:53:50.920 And then

00:53:51.540 the battery

00:53:52.920 or the sun

00:53:54.600 or the wind

00:53:55.620 people say,

00:53:56.660 I got a

00:53:57.200 good idea,

00:53:57.740 here's my

00:53:58.100 project.

00:53:59.200 It's all

00:53:59.540 approved.

00:54:00.720 And they

00:54:01.120 get the

00:54:01.400 money.

00:54:02.840 So it

00:54:03.600 looks like

00:54:04.020 it's just

00:54:04.460 a fucking 0.88

00:54:04.880 trick.

00:54:07.460 Now,

00:54:09.020 I don't know,

00:54:11.160 how worse

00:54:11.640 could this

00:54:12.080 be?

00:54:13.500 How worse

00:54:14.320 could it be?

00:54:14.960 And by the

00:54:15.400 way, did I

00:54:16.580 mention it

00:54:17.280 there was a

00:54:17.620 tweet thread

00:54:18.100 about 12

00:54:19.520 myths?

00:54:21.280 I'm not even

00:54:21.800 going to read

00:54:22.160 you the other

00:54:22.620 11, but go

00:54:24.360 to Alex

00:54:25.520 Epstein, you

00:54:26.060 should follow

00:54:26.880 him anyway.

00:54:28.700 Just follow

00:54:29.300 him and you'll

00:54:29.960 see all the

00:54:30.640 good arguments

00:54:31.180 on energy.

00:54:32.960 So Alex

00:54:33.520 Epstein, just

00:54:34.460 Google him, or

00:54:35.500 just search him

00:54:36.400 on Twitter and

00:54:37.040 follow him, you'll

00:54:37.580 see the other

00:54:38.060 11.

00:54:39.080 But, oh

00:54:40.960 my God.

00:54:42.880 Oh my God.

00:54:44.780 Now, I'd

00:54:45.880 like to think

00:54:46.480 that the

00:54:46.880 Biden government

00:54:47.460 is also

00:54:48.180 working on

00:54:48.720 that approval

00:54:49.300 problem.

00:54:50.480 So if they

00:54:51.200 worked on the

00:54:51.860 funding and

00:54:52.540 they got that

00:54:53.060 first, but

00:54:54.540 then separately

00:54:55.160 they're trying to

00:54:55.820 remove the red

00:54:56.480 tape, that'd be

00:54:57.880 okay.

00:54:59.020 But I'd like to

00:54:59.820 hear that.

00:55:01.160 And I'm not

00:55:01.920 aware of any

00:55:02.440 effort to do

00:55:03.020 that, are you?

00:55:03.920 I feel like we

00:55:04.640 would have heard

00:55:05.140 about it if

00:55:06.640 anybody was

00:55:07.420 doing anything

00:55:07.860 like that.

00:55:08.400 So I don't

00:55:08.940 think it's

00:55:09.240 happening.

00:55:10.700 But maybe a

00:55:12.340 Republican would.

00:55:14.420 Don't you

00:55:14.820 think that a

00:55:15.300 Republican would

00:55:16.000 be more likely

00:55:16.660 to work on

00:55:17.800 the streamlining

00:55:18.560 of nuclear

00:55:19.340 energy plants?

00:55:20.320 I think so.

00:55:21.940 So there's

00:55:22.520 another single

00:55:23.680 topic reason

00:55:26.140 to vote.

00:55:30.540 So you

00:55:31.320 know how we

00:55:31.740 were all

00:55:32.060 puzzled by

00:55:32.860 Lindsey Graham

00:55:35.240 and pushing 0.99

00:55:35.940 for this

00:55:36.340 national abortion

00:55:37.100 law so close

00:55:38.040 to the

00:55:38.320 midterms.

00:55:38.900 It seems

00:55:39.180 like a

00:55:39.640 political

00:55:40.420 error.

00:55:41.980 But then

00:55:42.240 on CNN,

00:55:43.320 Chris

00:55:43.540 Eliza had 0.60

00:55:44.180 an opinion

00:55:45.640 that maybe

00:55:47.760 it was a

00:55:48.560 strategy.

00:55:50.320 And the

00:55:50.680 strategy goes

00:55:51.360 like this.

00:55:52.700 If the

00:55:53.400 Republicans say

00:55:54.260 nothing about

00:55:54.980 abortion and

00:55:56.080 just try to

00:55:56.560 minimize it,

00:55:57.880 the Republicans

00:55:58.460 just own that

00:55:59.280 argument, at

00:56:01.020 least for their

00:56:01.600 base.

00:56:02.200 They just own

00:56:02.680 that argument.

00:56:03.100 So rather

00:56:03.960 than letting

00:56:04.360 them just

00:56:04.740 own the

00:56:05.160 argument,

00:56:06.580 the hypothesis

00:56:09.300 is that what

00:56:10.600 Graham was

00:56:11.120 really trying

00:56:11.620 to do is

00:56:12.240 give Republicans

00:56:14.120 something to

00:56:15.380 argue positively

00:56:16.580 for.

00:56:18.020 In other

00:56:18.420 words,

00:56:19.580 his proposition,

00:56:23.380 I guess it's

00:56:24.020 no abortions

00:56:25.580 after 15

00:56:26.420 weeks or

00:56:26.960 something like

00:56:27.440 that.

00:56:27.640 And I

00:56:28.540 guess that

00:56:28.840 would make

00:56:29.200 it compatible

00:56:29.780 with much

00:56:30.760 of the rest

00:56:31.340 of the world

00:56:31.960 and it's a

00:56:33.100 less extreme

00:56:33.780 position than

00:56:34.460 it could be.

00:56:35.440 It's less

00:56:35.940 extreme.

00:56:37.080 So what it

00:56:38.060 would do is

00:56:38.500 give some

00:56:38.880 cover to

00:56:39.580 Republicans so

00:56:40.920 they could say,

00:56:41.540 well, I like

00:56:43.060 this less

00:56:43.560 extreme thing

00:56:44.260 that most of

00:56:45.240 the world

00:56:45.560 agrees with.

00:56:46.180 It's not

00:56:46.480 crazy.

00:56:47.540 It's not

00:56:47.880 extreme.

00:56:49.360 It's anything

00:56:50.040 but extreme.

00:56:50.960 It's similar

00:56:51.680 to Europe.

00:56:53.960 So I think

00:56:54.720 he's trying to

00:56:55.220 give them an

00:56:55.700 argument.

00:56:56.060 Here's why I

00:56:56.640 think,

00:56:57.640 it won't

00:56:58.160 work because

00:57:00.440 voters only

00:57:01.120 absorb 10

00:57:01.960 percent of

00:57:02.400 the nuance.

00:57:03.860 And all

00:57:04.240 they see is

00:57:04.780 abortion yes 0.79

00:57:05.440 or abortion

00:57:05.940 no.

00:57:07.100 How many

00:57:08.160 Democrats

00:57:08.880 are going

00:57:10.380 to say,

00:57:10.840 well,

00:57:12.160 he's sort

00:57:12.960 of against

00:57:14.660 abortion but

00:57:15.740 he's being

00:57:16.180 reasonable like

00:57:17.500 the European?

00:57:18.300 Nobody's going

00:57:18.840 to do that.

00:57:20.120 Nobody's going

00:57:20.680 to do that.

00:57:22.860 Nobody.

00:57:23.860 To me,

00:57:24.260 it looks like

00:57:24.640 a bad strategy

00:57:25.400 because it

00:57:27.080 ignores the

00:57:27.780 fact that

00:57:28.180 people don't

00:57:28.980 do nuance.

00:57:30.280 If people

00:57:31.040 did nuance,

00:57:32.560 maybe,

00:57:33.520 but they

00:57:33.860 don't.

00:57:37.000 All right.

00:57:38.800 Over in

00:57:39.480 Ukraine,

00:57:40.280 Zelensky was

00:57:41.000 in a car

00:57:41.440 crash that 1.00

00:57:42.940 was at

00:57:43.300 least bad

00:57:43.700 enough to

00:57:44.160 get him

00:57:44.520 some medical

00:57:45.200 attention,

00:57:45.800 but he

00:57:46.080 had no

00:57:46.440 serious

00:57:46.760 injuries.

00:57:47.120 But what

00:57:50.440 do you

00:57:50.600 think about

00:57:50.960 the fact

00:57:51.420 that the

00:57:52.720 leader of

00:57:53.240 this country

00:57:53.800 at war

00:57:54.300 was vulnerable

00:57:55.780 to a car

00:57:56.560 accident?

00:57:59.000 How does

00:57:59.580 he travel?

00:58:00.180 Is it just

00:58:00.580 him and two

00:58:01.800 cars?

00:58:03.100 How do you

00:58:03.540 even have a

00:58:04.040 car accident?

00:58:04.940 He's not

00:58:05.400 part of a

00:58:05.900 motorcade or

00:58:06.560 anything?

00:58:07.460 Or was he

00:58:07.840 the first one

00:58:08.720 in the

00:58:08.940 motorcade?

00:58:10.420 I don't

00:58:10.820 even know

00:58:11.020 how that

00:58:11.300 happens.

00:58:11.700 And I

00:58:13.460 don't know

00:58:13.720 how the

00:58:13.960 person driving

00:58:14.500 the car

00:58:14.840 didn't get

00:58:15.220 shot,

00:58:15.940 but I

00:58:16.780 think,

00:58:17.260 I don't

00:58:17.540 know.

00:58:18.480 So Putin

00:58:19.260 is using

00:58:20.060 his big

00:58:20.580 missiles to

00:58:21.220 take out

00:58:21.720 Ukrainian

00:58:22.280 infrastructure,

00:58:23.080 and he

00:58:23.200 took out

00:58:23.500 a dam

00:58:24.020 and flooded

00:58:25.400 I guess

00:58:26.040 Zelensky's

00:58:26.620 old hometown.

00:58:27.860 So a lot

00:58:28.300 of this is

00:58:28.660 getting personal.

00:58:29.860 That sounded

00:58:30.340 personal.

00:58:31.600 But what

00:58:32.160 do you make

00:58:32.520 of the fact

00:58:32.980 that Russia 0.72

00:58:34.040 seems to be

00:58:34.760 mounting nothing

00:58:35.600 like a defense

00:58:36.440 on the ground,

00:58:37.740 but they're

00:58:38.800 using their

00:58:39.340 expensive weapons

00:58:40.340 just to fuck

00:58:41.420 with Ukraine,

00:58:42.600 and none

00:58:43.160 of the stuff

00:58:43.620 they're doing

00:58:43.960 now looks

00:58:44.400 like it

00:58:44.720 could help

00:58:45.060 them win.

00:58:46.340 I don't

00:58:47.040 believe that

00:58:47.500 taking out

00:58:47.980 that dam

00:58:48.660 helps Russia

00:58:50.780 win militarily,

00:58:51.920 does it?

00:58:52.860 That looks

00:58:53.420 like just

00:58:53.920 collective

00:58:54.380 punishment.

00:58:55.440 Am I

00:58:55.780 wrong?

00:58:57.140 It looked

00:58:57.840 like collective

00:58:58.440 punishment.

00:58:59.560 It looked

00:59:00.140 like an

00:59:00.500 attack on

00:59:01.020 the civilians.

00:59:02.320 Now let

00:59:02.680 me ask you

00:59:03.120 this.

00:59:04.540 Is there

00:59:05.200 any scenario

00:59:05.980 in which

00:59:06.700 Russian

00:59:07.640 citizens

00:59:08.280 could occupy

00:59:09.440 Ukraine

00:59:10.000 now?

00:59:11.420 There's

00:59:13.700 no way.

00:59:15.340 Now?

00:59:16.820 There isn't

00:59:17.720 any way

00:59:18.360 that Russian 1.00

00:59:19.920 citizens

00:59:20.680 could be

00:59:21.780 resident in

00:59:23.320 Ukraine and

00:59:24.260 managing things

00:59:25.600 in control.

00:59:26.560 They would

00:59:26.940 all be

00:59:27.240 murdered.

00:59:29.460 There's

00:59:29.820 just no way.

00:59:31.200 Because Putin's

00:59:32.800 gone too far.

00:59:34.660 For a while

00:59:35.840 there was a

00:59:36.500 way.

00:59:36.760 If Russia 0.80

00:59:38.940 had immediately

00:59:39.800 taken over

00:59:40.560 Kiev and

00:59:41.360 gotten rid

00:59:42.460 of Zelensky

00:59:43.080 and immediately

00:59:44.260 started a

00:59:44.980 propaganda campaign

00:59:46.080 to propagandize

00:59:48.020 people and

00:59:48.500 say, hey,

00:59:48.840 we saved you

00:59:49.420 from the

00:59:49.980 Nazis that

00:59:50.720 nobody's seen.

00:59:52.500 I guess there

00:59:53.340 are Nazis

00:59:53.760 there.

00:59:54.560 But it

00:59:55.900 could have

00:59:56.140 worked because

00:59:57.320 he has so

00:59:57.700 much control

00:59:58.300 over what

00:59:58.900 people see.

01:00:00.080 But at

01:00:01.420 this point

01:00:02.020 there are

01:00:03.360 no Ukrainians 1.00

01:00:04.320 who don't

01:00:04.880 know that

01:00:05.800 Putin is

01:00:06.220 killing civilians

01:00:07.060 in Ukraine.

01:00:08.920 And of what?

01:00:09.920 Anger?

01:00:11.300 Not even a

01:00:12.200 military

01:00:12.620 purpose?

01:00:14.120 So, it's

01:00:18.200 over.

01:00:19.480 I think the

01:00:20.080 war is over

01:00:21.060 in the sense

01:00:21.720 that you can

01:00:22.300 now know

01:00:23.380 that Russia 0.72

01:00:23.820 won't win

01:00:24.360 it.

01:00:26.280 In the sense

01:00:27.160 that they're

01:00:27.500 not going to

01:00:27.980 Russia will 0.98

01:00:28.880 never, at

01:00:30.440 least in our

01:00:30.960 lifetime,

01:00:31.840 won't take

01:00:32.400 over the

01:00:33.040 whole of

01:00:33.620 Ukraine.

01:00:35.380 That opportunity

01:00:36.380 is completely

01:00:37.160 gone now.

01:00:38.400 The question

01:00:39.040 remains about

01:00:39.880 those contested

01:00:40.860 areas where

01:00:41.400 they're still

01:00:41.780 fighting.

01:00:42.960 But I'm

01:00:43.620 not hearing

01:00:44.080 that the

01:00:44.460 Russians are

01:00:44.920 putting up

01:00:45.420 a real

01:00:45.940 fight.

01:00:47.100 It looks

01:00:47.540 like the

01:00:47.880 Ukrainians are 1.00

01:00:48.660 just rolling

01:00:49.200 them up.

01:00:50.600 Now, maybe

01:00:51.280 they essentialized

01:00:52.300 their forces

01:00:52.860 in the most

01:00:54.480 critical place

01:00:55.340 so there's a

01:00:55.800 big battle

01:00:56.220 to come.

01:00:57.380 But at the

01:00:58.000 moment, the

01:00:58.460 Ukrainians are 1.00

01:00:59.120 just rolling

01:00:59.580 them up.

01:01:02.120 Scott, you

01:01:02.800 know Zelensky

01:01:03.480 killed his

01:01:04.040 own civilians.

01:01:05.040 When did

01:01:05.440 he do that?

01:01:07.220 When did

01:01:07.600 he kill his

01:01:08.080 own civilians?

01:01:09.080 Oh, you

01:01:09.280 mean before

01:01:09.720 the war,

01:01:10.120 right?

01:01:11.360 Because there

01:01:11.940 was military

01:01:13.160 action,

01:01:13.620 in the

01:01:13.920 disputed

01:01:14.440 zones?

01:01:15.700 There's a

01:01:16.340 difference

01:01:16.660 between

01:01:17.320 targeting

01:01:19.240 military,

01:01:20.420 targeting

01:01:20.760 civilians,

01:01:21.460 and having

01:01:21.940 them die

01:01:23.080 in the

01:01:23.380 fighting.

01:01:24.160 It's a

01:01:24.440 pretty big

01:01:24.780 difference.

01:01:28.880 When he

01:01:29.580 shelled

01:01:29.880 Donetsk?

01:01:31.000 Yeah.

01:01:35.300 Well, you

01:01:35.940 know, I'm

01:01:36.580 open to,

01:01:38.200 I'm definitely

01:01:39.280 open to hearing

01:01:40.220 that counter

01:01:40.880 argument.

01:01:42.000 And that

01:01:42.320 would matter.

01:01:43.440 That would

01:01:43.720 matter.

01:01:44.100 I'm not a

01:01:44.560 pro-Zelensky

01:01:45.240 guy, by the

01:01:46.200 way.

01:01:46.940 Did you

01:01:47.240 know that?

01:01:48.960 Zelensky,

01:01:50.960 there's a

01:01:52.060 weasel

01:01:53.080 vibe that I

01:01:53.840 get from

01:01:54.200 him that

01:01:55.700 is, I

01:01:56.280 can't turn

01:01:56.760 it off.

01:01:57.940 So I'm

01:01:58.400 not pro-Zelensky.

01:02:00.020 I will

01:02:00.420 simply note

01:02:01.000 when he does

01:02:01.500 something that's

01:02:02.020 effective for

01:02:03.220 his country.

01:02:04.500 I'm definitely

01:02:05.180 not pro-Zelensky.

01:02:06.060 There's

01:02:06.740 something that

01:02:08.420 bothers me a

01:02:09.140 lot about that

01:02:09.760 guy, and I

01:02:10.680 don't know

01:02:10.880 exactly what

01:02:11.560 it is.

01:02:14.740 So the

01:02:15.420 Biden

01:02:15.620 administration

01:02:16.240 hired a

01:02:18.680 racist for

01:02:19.460 the job

01:02:20.080 of, what's

01:02:23.180 his job

01:02:23.560 called?

01:02:25.700 Diversity

01:02:26.340 chief at

01:02:28.660 the Department

01:02:29.200 of Defense's

01:02:30.100 education wing.

01:02:30.980 So the

01:02:32.520 diversity

01:02:33.060 chief

01:02:33.680 apparently

01:02:35.700 is an

01:02:36.280 overt

01:02:36.640 racist.

01:02:39.400 And when I

01:02:40.220 say overt,

01:02:41.640 allow me to

01:02:42.360 read some of

01:02:42.960 the tweets.

01:02:44.680 These were

01:02:45.220 on the

01:02:45.740 Twitter feed.

01:02:50.080 Somebody's

01:02:50.600 calling me

01:02:50.940 anti-Semitic.

01:02:52.320 What the

01:02:52.960 hell is that

01:02:53.360 about?

01:02:54.260 Anti-Semitic.

01:02:56.360 Oh, because

01:02:56.780 of Zelensky?

01:02:58.580 Oh, because

01:02:59.480 Zelensky gives

01:03:00.460 me a weasel

01:03:01.020 vibe.

01:03:01.520 Is that

01:03:01.820 why?

01:03:04.280 Because if

01:03:04.940 you hadn't

01:03:05.260 mentioned that

01:03:05.800 he was

01:03:06.060 Jewish, I'd

01:03:06.780 forgotten

01:03:07.080 entirely about

01:03:07.740 that.

01:03:10.000 Oh, you're

01:03:11.540 joking?

01:03:12.000 Okay.

01:03:12.760 If you're

01:03:13.100 joking, I'll

01:03:13.720 accept it.

01:03:15.160 All right.

01:03:16.620 So here's

01:03:17.480 the woman who 0.89

01:03:18.720 was hired for

01:03:20.640 this diversity

01:03:21.460 chief job.

01:03:24.120 She was

01:03:24.720 complaining about

01:03:25.440 some meeting

01:03:27.260 she was in

01:03:27.780 where the

01:03:28.120 white people

01:03:28.600 were bothering

01:03:29.160 her.

01:03:29.800 And she

01:03:30.120 said in a

01:03:30.560 tweet,

01:03:30.860 quote,

01:03:31.760 this lady

01:03:32.360 actually had

01:03:33.160 the

01:03:33.360 caudacity,

01:03:35.540 the caudacity,

01:03:37.680 that's

01:03:38.020 Caucasian

01:03:39.240 audacity,

01:03:40.940 the caudacity,

01:03:42.740 this lady

01:03:43.680 actually had

01:03:44.260 the caudacity

01:03:45.080 to say that

01:03:45.820 black people

01:03:46.420 can be racist

01:03:47.520 too.

01:03:48.560 I had to

01:03:49.100 stop the

01:03:49.580 session and

01:03:50.120 give Karen 0.99

01:03:50.800 the business.

01:03:52.580 Karen.

01:03:54.180 A name

01:03:54.760 that is

01:03:55.340 only used

01:03:55.760 for white

01:03:56.780 women. 0.81

01:04:00.140 She said,

01:04:00.900 we're not

01:04:01.280 the majority,

01:04:02.020 we don't

01:04:02.260 have the

01:04:02.560 power,

01:04:02.920 she continued.

01:04:05.280 Blah,

01:04:05.720 blah,

01:04:05.860 blah.

01:04:06.500 On another

01:04:07.140 occasion,

01:04:07.700 Wing responded

01:04:08.220 to a user

01:04:08.820 who said,

01:04:09.540 I'm exhausted

01:04:10.440 by 99% of the

01:04:12.040 white men in

01:04:12.820 education and

01:04:14.180 95% of the

01:04:16.040 white women. 1.00

01:04:17.040 Where can I

01:04:17.780 get a break

01:04:18.460 from white

01:04:19.180 nonsense for a

01:04:20.140 while?

01:04:20.340 And Wing

01:04:22.300 responded to

01:04:22.940 that tweet

01:04:23.320 with,

01:04:23.680 if another

01:04:24.120 Karen tells

01:04:24.900 me about

01:04:25.420 her feelings,

01:04:26.320 I might

01:04:26.760 lose it.

01:04:29.380 So,

01:04:30.480 I guess she

01:04:31.280 took down

01:04:31.980 her Twitter

01:04:32.360 account.

01:04:35.140 Now,

01:04:36.600 apparently

01:04:37.800 we're not

01:04:38.300 supposed to

01:04:38.760 say that's

01:04:39.240 racist because

01:04:40.960 she's black. 0.97

01:04:43.980 That's just

01:04:44.740 racist.

01:04:47.140 That's not

01:04:47.900 anything else.

01:04:49.640 There's just

01:04:50.300 a racist

01:04:50.780 person who

01:04:52.380 is tweeting

01:04:52.940 racist things

01:04:53.680 in public

01:04:54.200 and was put

01:04:56.540 in charge

01:04:57.080 of thwarting

01:04:59.680 racism.

01:05:04.940 Yeah.

01:05:06.460 All right.

01:05:13.580 It's very

01:05:14.400 convenient that

01:05:15.220 black people

01:05:15.760 can't be

01:05:16.260 racist, 0.77

01:05:16.900 isn't it?

01:05:17.680 How convenient?

01:05:18.580 Only you

01:05:20.720 can if

01:05:21.460 you're not

01:05:21.800 black.

01:05:23.920 All right.

01:05:25.880 So,

01:05:26.260 more newspapers

01:05:26.820 are canceling

01:05:28.380 me.

01:05:29.160 I'm getting

01:05:29.880 more and more

01:05:30.680 news of being

01:05:31.420 canceled.

01:05:33.200 There's something

01:05:33.960 that I forgot

01:05:34.740 about when I

01:05:36.560 told you how

01:05:37.040 newspapers are

01:05:37.840 really good about

01:05:38.500 not canceling

01:05:39.260 people.

01:05:39.960 Remember I

01:05:40.400 told you that?

01:05:41.960 And I said,

01:05:43.140 well, you know,

01:05:44.340 newspapers are the

01:05:45.180 one place where

01:05:46.020 you can have

01:05:46.440 freedom of speech

01:05:47.260 still because

01:05:49.420 the professional

01:05:51.020 news people

01:05:51.840 always had

01:05:53.420 been just

01:05:54.980 wildly free

01:05:56.160 speech,

01:05:57.220 as they should

01:05:58.080 be.

01:05:58.740 But here's what

01:05:59.380 I forgot.

01:06:00.000 Do you know

01:06:00.300 who owns most

01:06:01.620 newspapers?

01:06:05.300 Billionaires,

01:06:06.660 hedge funds.

01:06:08.360 The people

01:06:09.080 who own

01:06:09.860 newspapers also

01:06:11.340 own businesses

01:06:12.200 for which

01:06:13.680 ESG would 0.99

01:06:14.900 be, you

01:06:15.860 know,

01:06:15.980 important.

01:06:17.260 So,

01:06:18.120 I didn't

01:06:19.420 realize that I

01:06:20.100 was directly

01:06:20.700 attacking the

01:06:21.480 owners of the

01:06:22.020 newspapers.

01:06:23.840 So,

01:06:24.860 not such a big

01:06:25.920 surprise that I'm

01:06:26.560 getting canceled.

01:06:29.080 Who would be

01:06:29.940 calling me at

01:06:31.680 this time of

01:06:32.200 day?

01:06:33.940 Hello?

01:06:37.500 What?

01:06:38.520 Not talking?

01:06:39.180 Not talking?

01:06:39.220 I guess not.

01:06:44.280 I get a lot of

01:06:45.140 phone calls from

01:06:45.700 people who don't

01:06:46.180 say anything when

01:06:46.860 I answer.

01:06:52.100 Ovevec

01:06:52.500 Remsway's new

01:06:53.460 fund, is that an

01:06:54.120 anti-ESG fund?

01:07:02.220 Not an

01:07:02.780 unexpected outcome.

01:07:03.640 No.

01:07:05.320 So,

01:07:06.740 today,

01:07:08.100 a lot of

01:07:08.740 newspapers are

01:07:09.660 canceling,

01:07:10.880 well,

01:07:11.120 I don't know how

01:07:11.420 many,

01:07:11.880 but a lot of

01:07:12.380 newspapers are not

01:07:13.180 running Dilbert this

01:07:14.120 week because of the

01:07:15.020 topic.

01:07:16.140 But some of them

01:07:17.260 will cancel.

01:07:19.420 So,

01:07:20.480 if you're

01:07:21.140 wondering,

01:07:22.100 and by the way,

01:07:22.700 I don't have any

01:07:24.820 way to monetize

01:07:25.880 ESG,

01:07:27.500 I suppose,

01:07:28.280 if more people

01:07:29.120 read Dilbert,

01:07:29.780 I suppose,

01:07:30.660 indirectly.

01:07:31.100 But I'm just

01:07:33.000 losing money,

01:07:34.700 right?

01:07:35.340 By advocating

01:07:37.020 on this topic

01:07:38.240 at your request,

01:07:41.020 it just costs me

01:07:42.020 money.

01:07:42.360 You know that,

01:07:42.860 right?

01:07:43.660 And I say that

01:07:44.540 because if I were

01:07:46.440 making money from

01:07:47.260 it, you shouldn't

01:07:47.820 trust me,

01:07:48.740 or anybody else.

01:07:50.160 If somebody's

01:07:50.680 making money from

01:07:51.560 something,

01:07:51.900 don't trust anything,

01:07:52.860 they say.

01:07:53.900 That's just a

01:07:54.560 general rule.

01:07:55.160 Yeah.

01:07:59.140 Now,

01:07:59.440 this is one

01:08:01.000 where,

01:08:02.480 sort of the

01:08:03.140 Spider-Man problem

01:08:03.980 I told you.

01:08:05.380 Given that

01:08:06.080 Dilbert is

01:08:06.740 uniquely situated

01:08:07.800 to make a

01:08:08.560 statement about

01:08:09.200 ESG,

01:08:09.900 I felt like I

01:08:10.480 had to.

01:08:11.940 But it wasn't

01:08:12.740 good for me.

01:08:15.800 Yeah.

01:08:19.700 And now I'd

01:08:20.540 like to make

01:08:20.940 this Ray Epps

01:08:21.720 thing a thing.

01:08:23.420 And again,

01:08:23.900 it's not so much

01:08:24.440 about Ray Epps,

01:08:25.080 it's a larger

01:08:25.600 question that

01:08:26.320 Thomas Massey

01:08:27.260 asked.

01:08:28.360 You know,

01:08:28.580 can you tell us

01:08:29.340 what was your

01:08:29.960 involvement?

01:08:30.500 If they can't

01:08:31.040 tell us,

01:08:31.920 you have to let

01:08:32.580 all of the

01:08:33.360 January 6th

01:08:35.040 people go.

01:08:35.840 And by the

01:08:36.260 way,

01:08:36.460 that's the way

01:08:36.900 that Trump

01:08:38.000 could play it.

01:08:39.060 How about

01:08:39.380 this?

01:08:40.620 Trump could

01:08:41.100 say,

01:08:41.700 if we don't

01:08:42.620 have transparency

01:08:43.600 about the

01:08:44.360 FBI's involvement,

01:08:45.740 I'm going to

01:08:46.420 pardon everybody.

01:08:50.020 How about

01:08:50.640 that?

01:08:51.360 Because if

01:08:52.040 you say,

01:08:52.780 if we don't

01:08:53.180 have transparency

01:08:53.900 from the

01:08:54.480 FBI,

01:08:55.480 then even

01:08:56.240 the left

01:08:56.720 has a real

01:08:57.780 trouble

01:08:58.140 complaining.

01:08:59.260 If you say,

01:09:00.140 I'm just going

01:09:00.560 to pardon them

01:09:01.260 because I think

01:09:02.020 justice was not

01:09:02.900 done,

01:09:03.760 then it looks

01:09:04.380 like you're

01:09:04.760 pardoning criminals

01:09:05.620 to the left.

01:09:07.860 But if you say,

01:09:08.760 this doesn't have

01:09:09.280 anything to do

01:09:09.840 with their crimes

01:09:10.480 or alleged

01:09:11.600 crimes,

01:09:12.940 the pardon has

01:09:13.880 nothing to do

01:09:14.480 with their

01:09:14.760 alleged crimes.

01:09:16.120 It has to do

01:09:16.680 with the fact

01:09:17.180 that if the

01:09:17.780 government won't

01:09:18.620 be transparent,

01:09:19.940 then we can't

01:09:21.920 assume that

01:09:22.400 justice was done.

01:09:23.900 And if you

01:09:24.640 have a

01:09:24.860 situation where

01:09:25.700 justice can't

01:09:26.440 be done,

01:09:27.500 I'm going to

01:09:28.000 deal with it.

01:09:29.480 I'm going to

01:09:29.900 deal with it.

01:09:31.180 So I wouldn't

01:09:31.820 be involved if

01:09:32.980 justice could

01:09:33.660 handle it,

01:09:34.120 but justice

01:09:34.540 can't be done

01:09:35.180 because the

01:09:35.700 FBI won't

01:09:36.480 be transparent.

01:09:39.060 And if our

01:09:39.660 justice system

01:09:40.380 can't handle it,

01:09:41.180 I'm not going to

01:09:41.640 let them put 0.93

01:09:43.080 people in jail.

01:09:44.440 The justice

01:09:45.200 system has a

01:09:46.320 hole.

01:09:47.320 That hole is

01:09:48.180 it doesn't know

01:09:48.720 what's happening

01:09:49.340 with the FBI

01:09:50.160 because the FBI

01:09:50.840 is not talking.

01:09:51.520 As long as

01:09:52.880 that hole's

01:09:53.340 there, nobody

01:09:54.640 goes to jail

01:09:55.280 for those crimes,

01:09:56.660 even if they

01:09:57.180 did bad things.

01:09:58.460 Even if they

01:09:58.920 did bad things.

01:10:06.820 Yes, I believe

01:10:07.660 Ted Cruz asked

01:10:08.940 the same question

01:10:10.640 and also got

01:10:12.200 stonewalled by

01:10:12.920 the FBI.

01:10:13.760 That's correct.

01:10:14.320 Correct.

01:10:14.420 The last item

01:10:25.420 in your laundry

01:10:26.100 list lost me.

01:10:27.640 What was that?

01:10:29.720 All right.

01:10:34.380 I got a copy

01:10:36.180 of Jared Kushner's

01:10:38.760 new book.

01:10:39.340 I'm going to

01:10:42.240 look through

01:10:42.760 that and

01:10:43.340 give you some

01:10:45.420 opinion on

01:10:46.700 that.

01:10:47.520 You know,

01:10:47.820 that's actually

01:10:48.500 the book I'm

01:10:49.360 most interested

01:10:50.060 in.

01:10:50.440 A lot of

01:10:50.820 these alleged

01:10:52.340 behind-the-scenes

01:10:53.420 White House

01:10:54.540 books, you

01:10:55.800 always wonder

01:10:56.320 how much

01:10:56.960 access do

01:10:57.620 they really

01:10:58.060 have?

01:10:59.660 Right?

01:11:00.740 But Jared

01:11:02.380 Kushner, he

01:11:03.500 actually knows

01:11:05.140 exactly what

01:11:05.980 was happening

01:11:06.480 everywhere.

01:11:07.540 He's probably

01:11:08.280 the only one.

01:11:09.340 He probably

01:11:10.240 knows more

01:11:10.820 than the

01:11:11.260 president knows

01:11:11.980 about, you

01:11:13.200 know, the

01:11:13.660 machinery of

01:11:14.480 what was

01:11:14.780 happening at

01:11:15.280 the time.

01:11:15.940 Because the

01:11:16.540 president kind

01:11:17.140 of floats

01:11:17.480 above it.

01:11:18.720 But he

01:11:19.180 probably knows

01:11:20.100 more than

01:11:20.800 anybody knows

01:11:22.220 about that

01:11:22.720 period of

01:11:23.220 time.

01:11:23.540 So I have

01:11:24.100 the most

01:11:24.460 interest in

01:11:25.160 seeing what

01:11:25.900 he said.

01:11:29.060 Watch his

01:11:29.660 interview with

01:11:30.120 Dave Rubin.

01:11:31.580 Oh, I will.

01:11:33.880 Have you

01:11:34.320 seen Navarro's

01:11:35.320 comments on

01:11:35.960 Kushner?

01:11:36.840 I don't

01:11:37.360 remember seeing

01:11:37.880 them.

01:11:39.340 What about

01:11:42.540 Stephen Miller?

01:11:45.300 Well, he

01:11:45.940 definitely, Stephen

01:11:47.440 Miller was in

01:11:48.040 the mix, but I

01:11:48.980 don't know.

01:11:50.080 But I think he

01:11:51.680 was in fewer

01:11:52.320 topics.

01:11:57.740 Yeah.

01:11:58.060 the gorilla

01:12:01.520 channel.

01:12:02.980 Oh, yeah, I

01:12:04.100 didn't talk about

01:12:04.740 the immigrant

01:12:05.380 buses going to

01:12:06.400 Martha's Vineyard.

01:12:08.600 Let me say

01:12:09.660 that from a

01:12:10.460 persuasion

01:12:11.040 standpoint, the

01:12:12.880 Republican

01:12:13.420 governors shipping

01:12:14.660 those people to

01:12:17.000 the high-end

01:12:17.620 places, it's

01:12:19.780 really good.

01:12:21.160 It's really good

01:12:22.100 persuasion.

01:12:23.180 But it's funny

01:12:23.900 because there are

01:12:24.400 so few of them.

01:12:25.140 You know, the

01:12:26.260 total number of

01:12:27.140 people who are

01:12:27.500 bussed is just

01:12:28.140 like nothing.

01:12:29.100 And they're still

01:12:29.740 getting upset about

01:12:30.600 having to share

01:12:33.580 1% of the

01:12:34.320 pain.

01:12:35.260 In fact, that's

01:12:36.420 the way I would

01:12:37.040 express it if I

01:12:38.020 were a Republican.

01:12:39.140 I'd say they're

01:12:39.880 mad because we

01:12:40.640 made them share

01:12:41.260 1% of the pain.

01:12:43.400 It's probably

01:12:44.380 less than 1%.

01:12:45.600 But if you're

01:12:47.500 not willing to

01:12:48.040 share 1% of

01:12:48.840 the pain, then

01:12:50.840 you know what's

01:12:51.340 really happening

01:12:51.880 here.

01:12:53.120 We can be

01:12:53.900 honest.

01:12:54.940 Once we've

01:12:55.740 squeezed them

01:12:56.500 to scream, then

01:12:58.520 you can finally

01:12:59.100 get some

01:12:59.480 transparency about

01:13:00.360 what's going

01:13:00.780 on.

01:13:01.680 Everybody's in

01:13:02.220 favor of

01:13:02.680 somebody else

01:13:03.180 paying the

01:13:03.560 price.

01:13:05.080 Everybody's

01:13:05.520 happy with

01:13:05.980 the bill if

01:13:06.420 somebody else

01:13:06.860 pays it.

01:13:08.000 But as soon

01:13:08.720 as they have

01:13:09.020 to pay 1%

01:13:09.780 of the bill,

01:13:10.400 they're screaming

01:13:10.940 like, ah,

01:13:11.940 ah, no,

01:13:13.340 don't give me

01:13:13.880 1% of the

01:13:14.600 bill.

01:13:16.280 Yeah, and

01:13:16.920 the Martha's

01:13:17.420 Vineyard thing

01:13:17.880 was just sort

01:13:18.380 of perfect

01:13:18.840 persuasion.

01:13:20.780 Now, let me

01:13:22.400 ask you this.

01:13:24.560 Do you think

01:13:25.240 somebody's advising

01:13:26.240 these governors?

01:13:28.620 Or did the

01:13:29.860 idea just sort

01:13:30.500 of bubble up

01:13:31.240 and maybe

01:13:32.380 more than one

01:13:33.320 person had the

01:13:33.880 idea?

01:13:35.600 Or do you

01:13:36.240 think that

01:13:36.560 there's a

01:13:36.940 master persuader

01:13:37.920 somewhere in

01:13:39.400 the mix

01:13:39.800 advising these

01:13:40.680 southern governors?

01:13:42.940 What do you

01:13:43.340 think?

01:13:45.600 Could it be

01:13:46.400 Trump?

01:13:46.920 Eh, maybe.

01:13:50.340 Here's what I

01:13:51.220 think.

01:13:53.000 This play is

01:13:54.240 smarter than

01:13:55.200 governor.

01:13:56.580 That's what I

01:13:57.000 think.

01:13:57.860 As smart as

01:13:58.660 DeSantis is,

01:14:00.280 as smart as

01:14:01.000 Abbott is,

01:14:01.840 taking nothing

01:14:02.480 away from their

01:14:03.300 intelligence.

01:14:04.940 This is a

01:14:06.400 grade point

01:14:07.080 higher.

01:14:07.420 It looks like

01:14:10.900 something they

01:14:11.560 got convinced

01:14:13.100 to do and

01:14:14.300 would be happy

01:14:15.020 they did it

01:14:15.500 because it's

01:14:15.800 working.

01:14:17.780 I feel like

01:14:18.920 there's a

01:14:23.280 very clever

01:14:24.160 advisor somewhere

01:14:25.220 in the mix.

01:14:27.300 A very clever

01:14:28.180 advisor.

01:14:30.660 I guess we'll

01:14:31.400 never know who.

01:14:32.480 No, I'm not

01:14:33.800 cleverly telling

01:14:35.320 you it's me.

01:14:35.900 I had nothing

01:14:36.400 to do with it.

01:14:37.900 It wasn't my

01:14:38.860 idea at all.

01:14:39.720 I had zero,

01:14:41.760 I had nothing

01:14:42.440 to do with it.

01:14:43.640 I appreciate it

01:14:44.440 though.

01:14:44.760 I appreciate

01:14:45.260 that it was a

01:14:46.300 good play,

01:14:47.160 but it wasn't

01:14:48.080 mine.

01:14:51.680 Cernovich has

01:14:52.380 special counsel.

01:14:53.320 Well, I think,

01:14:54.600 you know,

01:14:55.120 as much as I

01:14:56.120 love Cernovich,

01:14:58.340 I think you

01:14:59.540 need, you

01:15:00.800 know, a

01:15:01.300 working lawyer

01:15:02.000 who does that

01:15:02.780 stuff.

01:15:03.220 right?

01:15:06.560 You don't

01:15:07.160 need somebody

01:15:07.580 who just has

01:15:08.420 that background,

01:15:09.480 you know,

01:15:09.660 the education.

01:15:10.460 You need

01:15:10.700 somebody who

01:15:11.060 does that

01:15:11.420 stuff.

01:15:14.560 What about

01:15:15.220 Pompeo?

01:15:18.500 All right.

01:15:19.000 All right.

01:15:19.040 I believe we're

01:15:29.220 done here.

01:15:30.880 Have we

01:15:31.520 covered everything

01:15:32.160 that's worth

01:15:32.760 covering with

01:15:33.560 the best

01:15:34.000 live stream

01:15:34.800 that ever

01:15:36.060 there was?

01:15:37.340 Yeah, the

01:15:37.620 train strike

01:15:38.320 looks like they

01:15:38.920 worked that

01:15:39.360 out.

01:15:39.640 Yeah.

01:15:45.540 Well, let

01:15:47.920 me give

01:15:48.240 you a 0.57

01:15:48.760 Yeah, I

01:15:53.460 better not.

01:15:54.720 Changed my

01:15:55.340 mind.

01:15:59.020 All right.

01:15:59.740 Yeah, so this

01:16:00.140 was 10 out of

01:16:00.640 10.

01:16:01.520 Wasn't this the

01:16:02.280 best live stream

01:16:02.880 you've ever seen?

01:16:04.240 Probably the

01:16:04.960 most fun you've

01:16:05.660 ever had in your

01:16:06.100 whole life.

01:16:07.240 Yeah, totally.

01:16:09.640 Oh, yeah.

01:16:15.080 Some of the

01:16:15.460 migrants were 0.99

01:16:16.200 bused to

01:16:17.000 VP Harris's

01:16:18.980 home.

01:16:23.880 No, I

01:16:24.480 haven't watched

01:16:25.160 Zelensky's movie

01:16:26.700 Servant of the

01:16:27.440 People.

01:16:28.180 Apparently, he

01:16:28.700 made a movie

01:16:29.220 that matched

01:16:30.800 his reality.

01:16:34.640 Yes, James

01:16:35.560 was the best

01:16:36.140 viewer today.

01:16:37.260 Over on

01:16:37.820 YouTube, James

01:16:39.540 is claiming

01:16:40.140 that he was

01:16:40.760 the best

01:16:41.360 viewer today.

01:16:43.140 I think you

01:16:44.000 were.

01:16:44.980 I've been

01:16:45.420 watching all

01:16:45.940 of you and

01:16:46.400 your viewing

01:16:47.840 abilities were

01:16:48.900 excellent.

01:16:50.680 Way above

01:16:51.260 average.

01:16:52.460 A lot of

01:16:52.820 people were

01:16:53.220 viewing it

01:16:53.860 sort of

01:16:55.460 sloppily.

01:16:56.720 But you,

01:16:57.900 you, James,

01:16:59.200 you're like the

01:17:00.160 viewer that

01:17:00.900 viewers want

01:17:01.660 to be.

01:17:02.760 You're the

01:17:03.680 viewer that

01:17:04.380 women want 1.00

01:17:05.340 to be with

01:17:05.920 and men

01:17:06.880 want to be.

01:17:07.440 That's

01:17:08.780 who you

01:17:09.020 are.

01:17:09.800 Good for

01:17:10.120 you.

01:17:11.420 All right.

01:17:12.440 That's all for

01:17:12.900 now.

01:17:13.300 I will talk to

01:17:13.740 you tomorrow.

01:17:14.940 You're all

01:17:15.240 awesome.

01:17:16.660 See you then.

01:17:17.160 I will talk to you

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - September 15, 2022

Episode 1867 Scott Adams： Come Watch Me Change The Political Narrative Right In Front Of Your Eyes

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