Real Coffee with Scott Adams - September 15, 2022


Episode 1867 Scott Adams: Come Watch Me Change The Political Narrative Right In Front Of Your Eyes


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Dilbert is back with another ESG-themed comic, and this time, it s about a company that thinks it s a good idea, and a comic who thinks it's a bad idea. Scott Adams explains why this is a problem, and how to fix it.

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00:00:00.200 Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the best thing that's ever happened to anybody in the entire world since the beginning of time.
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00:00:53.680 Yeah.
00:00:57.000 Oh, so good.
00:00:59.600 Well, let's talk about all the news.
00:01:04.040 Once again today, Dilbert is running another ESG-themed comic.
00:01:11.400 And you'd probably like me to read it to you, wouldn't you?
00:01:14.660 Yeah, I know you would.
00:01:16.760 I know you would.
00:01:19.260 And it goes a little something like...
00:01:23.660 Uh-oh.
00:01:24.120 Okay, there it is.
00:01:27.780 Looked like it was going to be a technical problem, but no.
00:01:31.200 So here Dogbert is just talking to Dilbert at a table,
00:01:36.080 and Dilbert says,
00:01:37.240 What is this ESG thing I keep hearing about?
00:01:41.500 And Dogbert says,
00:01:42.560 Imagine if a crooked politician and a crooked financial advisor got married and had a baby. 0.78
00:01:48.760 And Dilbert says, 0.81
00:01:50.800 So ESG would be that baby. 0.61
00:01:54.000 And Dogbert says,
00:01:55.040 Only if it is colicky and has firehose diarrhea.
00:01:58.620 Now, who would retweet a comic like that?
00:02:06.560 Who would be so low-born, 1.00
00:02:10.840 so much a person of the people,
00:02:14.900 that they would retweet such a controversial cartoon?
00:02:18.660 Well, one of them is Senator Tom Cotton,
00:02:21.580 who tweeted it this morning.
00:02:23.240 And he said,
00:02:24.900 He said,
00:02:27.580 Congratulations to BlackRock and Larry Fink for appearing in today's Dilbert.
00:02:32.940 And, you know, well done, Scott Epps.
00:02:34.780 So,
00:02:36.460 here's what I was trying to do.
00:02:41.100 I did want...
00:02:43.020 This is exactly what I wanted.
00:02:45.300 I wanted to raise the profile of ESG,
00:02:48.460 and I want to create the following thought in people's mind.
00:02:53.860 And the thought goes like this.
00:02:56.600 Nobody knows exactly what ESG is, right?
00:03:00.260 You know what the letters are.
00:03:02.420 Maybe you worked at a company where they were implementing it,
00:03:05.080 so you saw it up close.
00:03:06.620 But it's kind of big and unwieldy and complicated and ambiguous and hard to define.
00:03:11.820 And it might be morphing and changing,
00:03:13.460 and nobody's quite sure exactly what's in and what's out.
00:03:16.300 And how would you measure any of this anyway?
00:03:18.780 So it's this big amorphous cloud.
00:03:20.640 So it's hard to say anything good about it or anything bad about it,
00:03:25.680 because you can't actually talk about it in any way that anybody would understand,
00:03:32.260 because it's just too big, right?
00:03:34.020 Too big and too many...
00:03:35.460 It's like three different topics that they melded together into this souffle of God knows what.
00:03:42.160 Now, here's the only thing that people will know when I'm done.
00:03:48.300 You ready for this?
00:03:49.080 This is the only thing the public will know.
00:03:50.680 A giant company called BlackRock thinks it's a good idea, 0.99
00:03:58.000 and the Dilbert cartoonist thinks it's bullshit. 0.99
00:04:03.920 That's it. 0.99
00:04:06.260 Because if I tried to get in an argument about the details,
00:04:11.000 how well is that going to go, right?
00:04:13.500 Everybody gets lost in the details, and nobody understands anything.
00:04:16.680 But if you just understand two things,
00:04:19.160 there's a big, giant company that thinks it's a terrific idea,
00:04:23.680 and there's the guy who makes the Dilbert comic who says it's a bad idea.
00:04:31.940 So good luck. 0.59
00:04:33.380 We'll see if we can kill this by the end of the year. 0.99
00:04:35.860 Now, kill it just means try to, let's say, 0.99
00:04:40.240 try to bully it into something that we can live with. 0.93
00:04:44.160 I'm certainly not against, you know, the environment.
00:04:50.040 I'm not against the environment.
00:04:52.040 I'm not against companies doing things that are good for the environment.
00:04:56.400 I'm not against having good governance.
00:04:58.760 I think it's a good idea to have your governance,
00:05:01.140 as much as you can, you know,
00:05:03.900 reflect the public and your customers and even your employees.
00:05:07.520 So, just to be clear,
00:05:11.340 I don't have any problem with the objectives of ESG.
00:05:15.240 You get that, right?
00:05:17.580 Like, the things that they're asking for just seem like good generic things.
00:05:21.800 It's just the way it's done.
00:05:23.300 It's always the way it's done.
00:05:24.740 The thing I make fun of is always the way it's done.
00:05:28.620 When I make fun of management,
00:05:30.880 am I saying that companies should not be managed?
00:05:34.280 Of course not.
00:05:35.180 I'm only making fun of the way it's done, right?
00:05:39.080 So, that's my beat.
00:05:42.520 It's not about the idea.
00:05:44.320 It's about how it's implemented.
00:05:45.640 And here specifically is why it's a problem.
00:05:49.540 Because the people pushing ESG,
00:05:52.920 what is the one thing that they're not concerned with?
00:05:57.100 What is the one thing they're not concerned with
00:05:59.460 if they're pushing ESG?
00:06:01.480 The profitability of the company.
00:06:03.220 So, you need somebody who's in charge of all the variables.
00:06:08.240 You can't outsource some of the variables to another party.
00:06:12.780 That's not a management structure that can work in the long run.
00:06:18.200 It's always going to be a drag on everything.
00:06:21.160 And then, on top of that,
00:06:23.640 if you just...
00:06:24.760 By the way, that's all the argument you need,
00:06:27.160 is you can't take management's control of all the variables
00:06:30.360 where they're balancing, well, profit's good, environment's good,
00:06:35.960 you know, we're going to make some calls here.
00:06:40.040 Now, obviously, you don't want them doing profits over the environment,
00:06:43.140 but there's probably some balance there
00:06:46.660 that we're not exactly hitting quite right.
00:06:48.960 So, generally speaking, you want the people who are in charge
00:06:53.080 to be able to control all the variables
00:06:55.480 or else you don't get a good result.
00:06:59.360 Would you agree with that?
00:07:01.360 If the people running the company
00:07:03.360 are not the ones who can control which variables are important
00:07:07.180 and which ones get priority and which ones don't,
00:07:09.760 it's not really managed.
00:07:12.380 They're just victims of outside forces at that point.
00:07:15.040 So, it's a clever sort of backdoor way
00:07:19.920 to introduce a form of,
00:07:23.380 maybe some form of, I don't know,
00:07:26.740 cousin of socialism or something.
00:07:29.460 I'm not sure exactly what.
00:07:31.140 But it effectively would take some control
00:07:33.040 away from the people who have control
00:07:34.900 and sort of give it to the people in a way
00:07:38.240 if you think the people want ESG.
00:07:41.780 And the people do.
00:07:42.740 I mean, everybody wants a good environment.
00:07:45.040 They don't necessarily want it this way.
00:07:48.540 All right.
00:07:49.620 Remember I told you that YouTube has this app
00:07:52.840 called YouTube TV?
00:07:54.280 And it's an amazing app.
00:07:55.800 It had only one problem,
00:07:56.940 which is the network that didn't work.
00:08:00.800 And of all the content on there,
00:08:03.260 the only thing that didn't work was Fox News.
00:08:06.100 And it never worked.
00:08:08.260 And YouTube TV tweeted back at me and said,
00:08:11.140 you know, maybe you should uninstall your app
00:08:14.060 and reinstall.
00:08:16.000 And, you know, because I wasn't born yesterday,
00:08:20.940 that never works.
00:08:22.960 Especially when you've used it on like five different devices
00:08:26.180 and you get the same result.
00:08:28.140 You know, especially a brand new phone this week,
00:08:30.640 same result.
00:08:31.720 All the other channels are fine.
00:08:33.560 Just that one channel.
00:08:34.640 So, it's not impossible
00:08:38.460 that somehow the problem was on my end
00:08:41.700 or it was just a technical problem.
00:08:43.140 It's not impossible.
00:08:44.720 Anything's possible.
00:08:46.260 But let's open it up this morning.
00:08:48.600 See if it works.
00:08:49.560 We'll give you a live demonstration
00:08:52.140 of YouTube TV,
00:08:55.480 which has not once been able to show the five
00:08:58.780 without glitching.
00:08:59.820 And let's see what it does after I complained.
00:09:04.920 They're probably going to get what they asked for.
00:09:07.600 It works perfectly.
00:09:09.040 Yeah, that's interesting.
00:09:10.440 And you know, Jessica,
00:09:11.360 the majority of Americans who listen to Biden's speech
00:09:15.020 were...
00:09:15.940 It's all fixed.
00:09:19.320 So, one day, not even one day,
00:09:21.760 but basically the same day that I publicly called it out
00:09:26.020 is the first day that has worked perfectly.
00:09:29.820 How about that?
00:09:32.900 Don't you love your coincidences?
00:09:35.120 Quite a coincidence, wasn't it?
00:09:38.640 By the way, do you know how I got their attention?
00:09:42.320 Did you notice that?
00:09:43.940 How I got their attention?
00:09:46.400 So, I mean, not only that I did this publicly,
00:09:49.060 but I tweeted it.
00:09:50.820 But did you catch the most clever thing I did
00:09:54.560 to get their attention?
00:09:57.400 I don't know if you caught it.
00:09:58.560 So, I did it yesterday on the live stream.
00:10:02.640 Now, the clever thing I did was...
00:10:05.380 And this has to be honest,
00:10:06.840 so I don't recommend lying.
00:10:08.660 I never recommend lying with persuasion.
00:10:11.520 So, if you think I'm saying that, I'm not.
00:10:14.740 Here was the persuasion that I think was
00:10:17.200 maybe not the key, but it was important.
00:10:19.740 I said that the people who developed the YouTube TV
00:10:24.280 did a great job.
00:10:25.780 They really did.
00:10:27.320 It's one of the best apps that I've experienced
00:10:31.380 in terms of the user interface, speed,
00:10:34.700 technical excellence, etc.
00:10:36.840 So, it sort of stood out that this one channel
00:10:40.100 wasn't working.
00:10:41.400 Now, it could be that it was a technical problem
00:10:43.660 because they said there was something wrong with...
00:10:45.980 At one point, I heard there was something wrong
00:10:48.000 with the feed, maybe.
00:10:49.860 And maybe they just solved the technical problem.
00:10:52.940 So, I don't know for sure
00:10:54.140 there was any strange bias or anything like that.
00:10:57.860 Could have been.
00:10:58.780 Could have been just a technical problem.
00:11:00.480 But, in any case, it got fixed.
00:11:03.120 So, I don't know what percentage
00:11:07.680 of total TV traffic the YouTube TV app has,
00:11:12.380 but, yeah, Fox News probably just gained
00:11:17.080 one or two percent in ratings.
00:11:19.960 You're welcome.
00:11:21.080 You're welcome.
00:11:23.180 So, they say one person can't make a difference.
00:11:26.380 How many times have you seen me change something?
00:11:29.060 And, by the way, I don't know for sure
00:11:31.660 if that wasn't a coincidence.
00:11:34.140 Could have been.
00:11:35.400 You can never really rule out coincidence, can you?
00:11:41.080 All right.
00:11:45.940 So, TikTok.
00:11:48.140 Apparently, TikTok is not guaranteeing
00:11:53.460 that they will keep their data away from China.
00:11:56.720 So, TikTok is a Chinese-owned company,
00:12:00.380 which means the government of China
00:12:01.840 has control over them.
00:12:04.600 And we don't want our American user data
00:12:07.280 to get in Chinese hands.
00:12:09.840 But TikTok says,
00:12:11.360 well, you know, we can't really promise
00:12:14.320 that there's no situation whatsoever
00:12:17.680 where they won't get your data.
00:12:19.600 And you know what's the funniest thing
00:12:25.640 about this story?
00:12:27.620 It's a complete diversion.
00:12:32.320 Look at my left hand.
00:12:34.260 Don't pay attention to my right hand.
00:12:36.620 Look at my left hand.
00:12:38.280 Your user data.
00:12:39.940 Oh, let's worry about the user data.
00:12:42.980 Hey, look over here.
00:12:44.200 The user data might get in the wrong hands.
00:12:46.460 Look here.
00:12:47.520 User data.
00:12:48.940 What about no?
00:12:50.100 No, no, no.
00:12:50.780 No, there's nothing else.
00:12:52.100 Let's talk about the user data.
00:12:54.480 What are we forgetting?
00:12:56.660 How about the fact that the entire product
00:12:59.020 is designed as a user interface
00:13:02.120 for brains?
00:13:05.060 It's a user interface
00:13:06.880 for programming brains.
00:13:09.640 Now, it's also other things.
00:13:12.540 It's entertaining.
00:13:13.460 It's social media.
00:13:14.380 It's all those things.
00:13:15.680 But by its nature,
00:13:18.460 I'm not sure if it's by design,
00:13:20.900 but by its nature,
00:13:22.340 you can figure out what people like.
00:13:26.960 You can give them more of it.
00:13:29.880 And do you know how persuasion works?
00:13:32.040 Let me explain it to you.
00:13:34.320 Here are the main things
00:13:35.480 that will persuade you.
00:13:36.520 Number one, repetition.
00:13:41.820 The more you see the same message,
00:13:43.600 the more you think it's true.
00:13:45.100 Or the more you think it's important.
00:13:46.680 Both of those.
00:13:48.180 So can the TikTok interface algorithm
00:13:52.700 decide who gets more of something?
00:13:55.380 Yes.
00:13:56.300 That's the basic element of brainwashing. 0.99
00:13:59.520 What information goes to whom
00:14:02.180 and how often and how much of it.
00:14:04.860 Now, what's the second element
00:14:07.160 of persuasion?
00:14:09.860 Association.
00:14:11.820 Association.
00:14:13.260 Can TikTok make sure
00:14:15.140 that it associates the message
00:14:17.140 with, let's say,
00:14:18.580 couching it in between
00:14:19.860 a bunch of things
00:14:21.560 that are going to make you happy
00:14:22.620 and feel good
00:14:23.380 and you think are true?
00:14:25.220 What would that do
00:14:26.060 to the message that's sandwiched
00:14:27.700 between things that you love
00:14:29.800 and make you happy
00:14:31.140 and put you in a good mood
00:14:32.440 and also you think are true
00:14:34.740 and meaningful and important?
00:14:37.060 And they stick that one little thing
00:14:38.620 in there that you didn't have
00:14:39.480 an opinion on yet.
00:14:40.740 What happens to it?
00:14:42.360 Well, the goodness
00:14:43.520 from the things around it
00:14:45.100 and the feelings associated
00:14:47.020 with those other things
00:14:48.000 now are associated
00:14:50.180 with the new thing.
00:14:52.000 So TikTok
00:14:52.800 has a user interface
00:14:54.740 that can control
00:14:55.520 the quantity and frequency
00:14:57.040 and the association.
00:15:00.900 Now, what else do you need
00:15:02.040 for persuasion?
00:15:08.020 Feedback.
00:15:09.080 One of the most important things
00:15:10.580 and often underappreciated.
00:15:13.920 When a hypnotist does hypnosis
00:15:15.440 in person,
00:15:17.020 a big part of the process,
00:15:18.340 maybe half of it,
00:15:19.540 is observing whether the thing
00:15:21.000 you're doing is working
00:15:21.900 and if it's not working,
00:15:23.740 you change.
00:15:24.620 You try something else.
00:15:25.620 See if that works.
00:15:26.400 Change.
00:15:27.160 See if that works.
00:15:28.880 Now, that's why you can't
00:15:30.120 learn hypnosis by reading a book
00:15:31.740 because reading a book
00:15:34.280 won't let you see the change
00:15:36.080 that's happening.
00:15:37.400 Right?
00:15:37.700 So you're not there in person.
00:15:40.820 You know, in theory,
00:15:41.620 I suppose you could practice
00:15:42.580 and observe,
00:15:43.560 but it doesn't really work too well.
00:15:46.460 So now you've got
00:15:47.500 frequency,
00:15:51.180 you've got association,
00:15:53.640 and feelings,
00:15:54.900 so they can control your feelings.
00:15:56.400 What are the strongest
00:16:01.220 bits of persuasion?
00:16:04.780 What is the number one
00:16:05.840 strongest persuasion?
00:16:08.280 Fear.
00:16:10.080 Fear.
00:16:11.320 Is TikTok able
00:16:13.140 to, let's say,
00:16:15.440 decide that you will see
00:16:16.560 more things that might be scary
00:16:18.740 or fewer things
00:16:20.800 that might be scary?
00:16:22.300 They can control that.
00:16:23.500 Right?
00:16:24.140 They have control over
00:16:25.420 if you see more
00:16:27.100 scary stuff
00:16:28.360 about, let's say,
00:16:29.320 a topic.
00:16:30.440 Yes, they can.
00:16:31.300 Let's take climate change.
00:16:33.260 They can completely control
00:16:34.780 how much fear
00:16:36.600 their customers see
00:16:38.000 or experience.
00:16:40.200 Right?
00:16:40.320 So now they can control that.
00:16:42.540 Now what's the next
00:16:43.240 most important part
00:16:44.260 of persuasion
00:16:46.220 after fear?
00:16:49.140 Well, I often talk about
00:16:50.380 the high ground approach,
00:16:51.900 but the high ground
00:16:52.460 doesn't really apply
00:16:53.240 in social media.
00:16:54.280 This is more of an argument thing.
00:16:56.300 Social media is more
00:16:57.100 of a fire hose.
00:16:57.860 So the high ground
00:16:59.020 doesn't really
00:16:59.600 come into play
00:17:00.540 in that.
00:17:01.400 The next thing
00:17:02.160 that's important
00:17:02.620 is visual persuasion.
00:17:04.800 Visual.
00:17:06.680 TikTok's visual.
00:17:08.900 So they've got visual.
00:17:10.420 They've got fear.
00:17:11.620 They've got control
00:17:13.160 over that.
00:17:13.900 How much you see,
00:17:15.480 what it's associated with,
00:17:17.320 what time you see it.
00:17:18.380 They can even control
00:17:19.180 the time of day.
00:17:20.780 Don't you think
00:17:21.360 that the time of day
00:17:22.440 would determine
00:17:23.620 how acceptable
00:17:25.100 a message is?
00:17:26.720 It would.
00:17:28.100 I've never studied it,
00:17:29.800 but I guarantee it.
00:17:31.740 There's nothing
00:17:32.260 I've even ever looked into,
00:17:34.340 but I guarantee it.
00:17:35.920 The time of day,
00:17:37.440 and based on what else
00:17:38.660 you're doing at that time,
00:17:40.280 completely determines
00:17:41.360 how open you are
00:17:42.120 to a suggestion.
00:17:44.180 Everything from,
00:17:45.340 you know,
00:17:45.760 how hungry you are
00:17:46.700 to how sleepy you are,
00:17:48.040 all of those things
00:17:49.280 work into whether
00:17:50.200 you're open
00:17:50.820 to be suggestible.
00:17:52.760 So now,
00:17:53.680 TikTok knows
00:17:54.460 what's working
00:17:55.100 and what doesn't,
00:17:55.980 because it can
00:17:56.760 observe you directly.
00:17:57.860 It knows if you're
00:17:59.240 clicking on
00:17:59.880 or watching something
00:18:00.760 more or less.
00:18:02.140 It has every element
00:18:03.880 of the human interface
00:18:06.320 for programming a brain.
00:18:09.340 There's nothing missing.
00:18:12.040 Let me say that again.
00:18:14.220 There's no feature missing.
00:18:16.580 They hit every note.
00:18:18.500 Every note.
00:18:19.900 If you were an expert
00:18:22.000 in persuasion,
00:18:23.320 and you said,
00:18:23.820 all right,
00:18:24.080 let's develop
00:18:25.240 a thing
00:18:26.140 to program
00:18:26.760 somebody's mind,
00:18:28.360 you would develop
00:18:29.620 TikTok.
00:18:30.740 That's the exact
00:18:31.860 product you would make
00:18:32.900 if you were designing
00:18:34.040 a brainwashing tool.
00:18:37.400 It would be TikTok.
00:18:39.920 It wouldn't remind you
00:18:41.280 of it.
00:18:42.120 It would be it.
00:18:43.760 Let me say that again.
00:18:45.120 It wouldn't be similar
00:18:46.100 to,
00:18:46.560 it wouldn't remind you
00:18:47.560 of,
00:18:48.320 it would be TikTok
00:18:49.540 if you designed
00:18:51.480 a brainwashing tool.
00:18:54.140 Because what's more
00:18:55.460 important than having
00:18:56.480 all your friends
00:18:57.120 also being brainwashed
00:18:58.260 at the same time?
00:19:00.280 Nothing.
00:19:01.360 Nothing.
00:19:02.520 So that's the next element.
00:19:04.400 The social element
00:19:05.680 of it,
00:19:06.140 that you're part of a team
00:19:07.160 and the team's doing
00:19:08.100 the same thing you are,
00:19:09.300 is super persuasive.
00:19:11.060 I should have put that one
00:19:11.880 maybe at the top.
00:19:13.380 You know,
00:19:13.660 I don't think of that one
00:19:14.520 because I usually think
00:19:15.680 of a one-on-one persuasion.
00:19:17.080 I don't think,
00:19:17.740 so that one escaped me.
00:19:19.460 But I should have said
00:19:20.380 that's near the top
00:19:21.280 or at the top.
00:19:22.480 That it looks like
00:19:23.360 you're on a team
00:19:24.040 and the team is awesome
00:19:25.040 and aren't you glad
00:19:25.940 you're on that team?
00:19:27.080 And whatever that team says
00:19:28.340 is what you want to say too
00:19:29.360 because you're on the team.
00:19:32.060 Now,
00:19:32.500 how many people
00:19:33.080 do you think in Congress
00:19:34.120 understand what I just told you?
00:19:37.340 Think about it.
00:19:38.600 How many members of Congress
00:19:40.300 are with it enough
00:19:43.360 that they would even understand
00:19:45.580 what I just told you?
00:19:47.880 Well,
00:19:48.720 you could practically name them,
00:19:50.440 right?
00:19:50.860 Rand Paul would understand,
00:19:52.800 right?
00:19:54.020 Tom Cotton would understand,
00:19:56.340 of course.
00:19:57.460 You could name,
00:19:58.440 you know,
00:19:58.680 the ones that are obvious.
00:20:00.340 But,
00:20:01.000 do you think that
00:20:02.360 most of them understand?
00:20:04.860 I don't think so.
00:20:06.060 I don't think so.
00:20:06.780 I don't think,
00:20:07.740 I think that,
00:20:10.100 yeah,
00:20:10.880 Thomas Massey would understand,
00:20:12.180 obviously.
00:20:12.500 So there are definitely
00:20:15.820 some super smart members
00:20:17.780 of Congress.
00:20:18.880 There's no doubt about that.
00:20:20.160 You know,
00:20:20.300 we can make fun of them
00:20:21.160 all day long.
00:20:21.860 But there are a number of them
00:20:23.000 who are super smart.
00:20:24.780 Super smart.
00:20:25.500 And I'm not sure
00:20:30.800 they have enough power
00:20:31.760 compared to how much
00:20:33.140 they should.
00:20:34.360 Matt Gaetz would understand,
00:20:35.640 yeah.
00:20:36.040 Now,
00:20:36.260 I'm just,
00:20:36.820 you know,
00:20:37.040 mentioning some people
00:20:39.040 who are more right-leaning.
00:20:40.700 But surely there are people
00:20:42.160 on the left
00:20:42.600 who understand it,
00:20:43.560 but I don't know
00:20:44.040 if they care.
00:20:45.360 Because to them,
00:20:46.200 it might look like
00:20:47.060 things are being persuaded
00:20:48.780 in their direction,
00:20:49.960 which would be,
00:20:51.680 yeah,
00:20:52.780 I would say anybody,
00:20:54.140 anybody who has
00:20:55.300 a legal background
00:20:56.540 and understands,
00:20:58.980 and has seen the app,
00:21:01.080 see,
00:21:01.320 most of Congress
00:21:02.060 has never seen TikTok.
00:21:03.380 Wouldn't you agree?
00:21:05.120 How many members
00:21:06.060 of Congress
00:21:06.640 have actually held
00:21:07.740 TikTok in their hand
00:21:09.060 and scrolled it?
00:21:11.780 I don't know how many.
00:21:13.700 10% maybe?
00:21:15.800 But you wouldn't
00:21:16.800 really understand it
00:21:17.880 unless you felt it.
00:21:19.020 I recently got addicted
00:21:22.300 to Instagram Reels,
00:21:26.500 which is basically TikTok,
00:21:28.140 just the Instagram version.
00:21:30.200 And, you know,
00:21:31.480 I'm sort of keyed
00:21:32.480 into this whole
00:21:33.200 persuasion thing,
00:21:34.140 and my God,
00:21:36.080 do I feel the pull,
00:21:38.300 the actual pull
00:21:39.560 of the swipe one more time
00:21:41.900 because it's learned
00:21:43.060 exactly what to feed me.
00:21:44.600 You want to hear
00:21:45.040 the weirdest one?
00:21:47.480 Here's the weirdest one.
00:21:49.020 I have this sort of strange,
00:21:51.680 you know,
00:21:52.060 I don't know if it's a
00:21:53.000 health-related problem
00:21:54.700 or what,
00:21:55.500 but my hip
00:21:56.480 gets really tight
00:21:58.400 in the morning,
00:21:59.540 so tight
00:22:01.300 that I can't use the stairs
00:22:02.920 for like a few hours.
00:22:04.640 Like,
00:22:04.800 it's just so hard
00:22:05.420 to even walk upstairs.
00:22:06.620 And I'm perfectly healthy.
00:22:08.260 By the afternoon,
00:22:09.200 I can, you know,
00:22:09.700 walk for miles
00:22:10.540 and run up the stairs.
00:22:12.640 But just this weird thing
00:22:14.300 where my,
00:22:15.100 I don't know, 0.99
00:22:15.660 it feels like my butt 0.51
00:22:16.540 or my hips 0.63
00:22:17.300 are so tight
00:22:18.540 I can't,
00:22:19.100 I just barely
00:22:19.680 walk upstairs.
00:22:21.440 Now,
00:22:21.760 had you ever heard
00:22:22.600 of that problem
00:22:23.280 before in your whole life?
00:22:24.960 I never have.
00:22:26.040 I've never heard
00:22:26.860 of anybody
00:22:27.240 who had that problem.
00:22:29.240 Never.
00:22:30.440 Never heard
00:22:31.160 of a single person
00:22:31.900 with that problem.
00:22:33.240 My social media
00:22:34.200 is filled
00:22:35.080 with stretching exercises
00:22:37.000 to fix that problem.
00:22:38.560 I've never googled it.
00:22:43.480 I've never,
00:22:44.320 I've never done a search
00:22:45.560 for anything
00:22:46.740 related to that.
00:22:48.500 I've only ever
00:22:49.780 talked about it
00:22:50.680 privately in my home.
00:22:52.600 And all of my social media
00:22:54.040 is giving me solutions.
00:22:56.100 Now,
00:22:56.360 here's the weird part.
00:22:58.240 Not only did it
00:22:59.460 diagnose me,
00:23:01.320 it cured me. 1.00
00:23:03.420 The fucking algorithm 1.00
00:23:04.900 cured me. 1.00
00:23:06.260 It listened to me
00:23:07.340 talk about a problem
00:23:09.040 and it didn't just
00:23:10.720 give me a commercial
00:23:11.980 that was selling me something.
00:23:13.920 It actually gave me
00:23:14.840 something that wasn't
00:23:15.560 a commercial.
00:23:17.760 They're memes,
00:23:18.840 I don't know,
00:23:19.300 they're videos,
00:23:20.220 sort of commercially,
00:23:21.700 but they weren't
00:23:22.300 selling something direct.
00:23:23.960 They were just telling
00:23:24.680 you how to stretch.
00:23:26.920 And I thought,
00:23:28.120 what else can it do?
00:23:30.480 How many other things
00:23:31.500 will you be cured of
00:23:32.760 because your social media
00:23:34.140 listened to you?
00:23:35.560 Let me ask you this.
00:23:38.040 Oh,
00:23:38.380 here's another one.
00:23:39.760 Here's another one.
00:23:42.580 I wanted to see
00:23:43.760 the trend of,
00:23:45.900 I'm not going to say
00:23:46.740 the word out loud
00:23:47.540 because social media
00:23:48.420 won't want me
00:23:49.160 to use the word.
00:23:50.880 But it's a word
00:23:51.700 that starts with S
00:23:52.660 and involves
00:23:54.120 people ending
00:23:55.880 their own existence
00:23:56.940 on this planet.
00:23:58.280 And so I just won't
00:23:58.960 use the word
00:23:59.520 because I don't want
00:24:00.080 to get picked up.
00:24:00.760 So I wanted to do
00:24:02.340 a search
00:24:02.860 to see if people
00:24:04.240 who had
00:24:05.120 a legal
00:24:06.440 doctor-assisted
00:24:08.780 situation
00:24:10.720 to see if that
00:24:12.280 had grown
00:24:12.820 or decreased
00:24:13.980 in popularity.
00:24:15.120 So I was just
00:24:15.740 looking for
00:24:16.380 a general knowledge
00:24:17.440 thing.
00:24:18.840 And
00:24:19.100 my phone
00:24:21.620 wouldn't let me
00:24:22.260 search for it.
00:24:24.440 It wouldn't let me
00:24:25.500 search for it.
00:24:26.140 it would only let
00:24:27.680 me talk to
00:24:28.340 a professional.
00:24:30.900 Let me say it again.
00:24:32.000 It wouldn't let me
00:24:32.820 search for anything
00:24:34.280 on the topic
00:24:35.180 except to talk
00:24:36.500 to a professional.
00:24:37.780 Because I think
00:24:38.760 the algorithm assumed
00:24:39.900 that if I'm looking
00:24:41.520 for that,
00:24:42.180 I might be looking
00:24:42.840 for how to do it.
00:24:45.500 And that wasn't
00:24:46.380 a bad guess.
00:24:47.480 That wasn't.
00:24:48.700 But it was not
00:24:49.400 a bad guess.
00:24:50.980 A lot of people
00:24:51.700 who are going to
00:24:52.060 search for it
00:24:52.560 are looking
00:24:52.840 how to do it.
00:24:54.160 And it comes up
00:24:55.080 with a message instead
00:24:56.080 do you need
00:24:57.100 to talk to somebody?
00:24:58.220 Here's somebody
00:24:58.780 you can talk to.
00:25:01.100 Now,
00:25:02.720 yeah,
00:25:03.060 that's actually good.
00:25:03.860 I have very mixed
00:25:04.960 opinions about this.
00:25:06.180 Very mixed opinions.
00:25:07.740 On one hand,
00:25:08.620 it thwarted me
00:25:09.380 from just looking up
00:25:10.240 some interesting
00:25:10.920 information.
00:25:12.020 I didn't like that.
00:25:13.000 I figured out
00:25:13.600 how to do it
00:25:14.080 just by typing it
00:25:15.020 instead of speaking it.
00:25:16.280 But when I spoke it,
00:25:17.960 it just wouldn't
00:25:18.660 let me get past
00:25:19.340 that look
00:25:21.320 and talk to a professional.
00:25:22.920 Now,
00:25:23.080 I think that was
00:25:23.640 maybe a little
00:25:25.880 heavy-handed.
00:25:26.700 You could argue
00:25:27.280 that one.
00:25:28.420 But given how much,
00:25:30.700 given that the intention
00:25:31.920 of it
00:25:32.500 is so obviously
00:25:33.940 right-minded,
00:25:36.140 I'm a little forgiving
00:25:37.200 about the friction there.
00:25:40.400 So,
00:25:41.020 I don't know,
00:25:41.360 maybe that's the future
00:25:42.200 where the algorithm
00:25:43.580 will find a problem
00:25:45.300 you didn't even know
00:25:46.060 you had
00:25:46.500 and suggest a solution.
00:25:49.420 California's come up
00:25:50.360 with a heat wave
00:25:51.620 ranking system.
00:25:52.600 So,
00:25:53.460 they don't have
00:25:53.800 the details yet.
00:25:54.620 They're going to work
00:25:55.080 on it.
00:25:55.760 But the idea
00:25:56.540 is that in a heat wave,
00:25:57.680 if you have to
00:25:58.480 turn off
00:25:59.720 somebody's electricity,
00:26:01.920 they'll have
00:26:02.440 some structured
00:26:03.420 way to do it.
00:26:04.340 I assume this means
00:26:05.380 that the hospitals
00:26:06.180 keep their power.
00:26:08.000 Maybe some
00:26:08.560 residences don't.
00:26:10.580 And I was trying
00:26:11.120 to imagine
00:26:11.580 where I might show up
00:26:13.100 on the heat wave
00:26:13.900 ranking system.
00:26:15.680 I'm like,
00:26:16.460 well,
00:26:16.800 you know,
00:26:16.980 I'm not in the hospital
00:26:17.920 and I'm not
00:26:20.220 in a senior home.
00:26:26.120 Not a school.
00:26:27.300 Maybe the schools
00:26:27.980 need it first.
00:26:29.240 Maybe medical facilities
00:26:30.740 in general.
00:26:32.640 I'm thinking that
00:26:33.540 by the time
00:26:34.020 you get down to me,
00:26:35.520 I'm kind of
00:26:36.060 in the kill box.
00:26:37.360 I think I'm 0.88
00:26:37.760 in the kill box.
00:26:39.580 I think there's
00:26:40.180 going to be a list
00:26:40.760 that says,
00:26:41.260 well,
00:26:41.400 if it gets really hot,
00:26:43.360 it's okay 1.00
00:26:43.860 to kill Scott. 0.99
00:26:44.880 but save 0.97
00:26:47.900 the other people.
00:26:49.400 I think,
00:26:49.840 you know,
00:26:50.020 we can let Scott go.
00:26:51.620 I just feel like
00:26:52.340 I'm going to be
00:26:52.800 on the list
00:26:53.220 toward the bottom.
00:26:53.960 I don't know.
00:26:55.200 It's just me.
00:26:56.800 Well,
00:26:57.140 the Wall Street Journal
00:26:57.740 is reporting
00:26:58.320 what many of you
00:26:59.220 already knew.
00:27:01.940 And by the way,
00:27:02.720 if you live
00:27:03.380 in a place
00:27:03.860 that has lots
00:27:04.780 of immigrants
00:27:05.580 from below the border,
00:27:08.100 you already knew this.
00:27:11.120 The Hispanics 0.99
00:27:12.040 coming over the border, 0.90
00:27:13.340 they're not liberal.
00:27:15.500 They're not liberal.
00:27:17.180 They're religious.
00:27:18.940 They care about work,
00:27:21.520 inflation,
00:27:22.300 paychecks,
00:27:23.960 that stuff,
00:27:24.520 education.
00:27:25.540 So it turns out
00:27:26.400 that the move
00:27:28.200 toward the Hispanic 0.88
00:27:29.860 population
00:27:30.500 becoming more
00:27:31.900 and more Republican
00:27:32.660 apparently is
00:27:33.940 quite pronounced.
00:27:35.500 So at this point,
00:27:36.500 it's a thing.
00:27:38.900 Correct me
00:27:39.640 if I'm wrong.
00:27:41.180 How many of you
00:27:41.820 have been watching
00:27:42.360 long enough
00:27:43.000 that you remember
00:27:44.500 me saying
00:27:45.040 this was going
00:27:45.680 to be a thing?
00:27:47.040 Because I can see
00:27:48.000 it forming
00:27:48.520 because I'm a little
00:27:49.440 closer to that community.
00:27:50.960 I just interact
00:27:51.800 with them all the time.
00:27:53.460 I can see it clearly.
00:27:55.460 You can see it
00:27:56.200 clear as day.
00:27:57.360 There's no such thing
00:27:58.600 as a woke Mexican.
00:28:02.620 I'm exaggerating.
00:28:03.940 Of course.
00:28:04.980 Of course I'm exaggerating.
00:28:06.640 But I've never met one.
00:28:07.660 And when I say Mexican,
00:28:09.320 I mean somebody born there.
00:28:10.800 Now they may be
00:28:11.580 American-ized 0.68
00:28:12.700 and they may be
00:28:13.600 they may even be
00:28:14.580 citizens or whatever.
00:28:15.780 But I've never met
00:28:16.740 a woke Mexican.
00:28:18.620 Never.
00:28:19.760 I'm not sure
00:28:20.480 I ever will.
00:28:21.900 Right.
00:28:22.740 So if they're not
00:28:24.040 natural Republicans,
00:28:25.480 I don't know who is.
00:28:27.540 They're so natural
00:28:28.640 Republicans,
00:28:29.760 they even get past
00:28:31.420 the fact that
00:28:32.160 they think Republicans
00:28:33.060 might be a little
00:28:33.800 biased against them.
00:28:34.760 that's how much
00:28:36.800 Republican they are.
00:28:38.300 They're even willing
00:28:38.920 to say,
00:28:39.220 you know,
00:28:40.020 Republicans might
00:28:40.820 not like me,
00:28:41.520 but I sure like
00:28:42.080 low taxes
00:28:42.640 and having a job
00:28:44.180 and stuff.
00:28:45.260 I like that stuff.
00:28:46.280 I like education.
00:28:48.360 So,
00:28:49.400 I think there's
00:28:51.720 going to be more
00:28:52.160 of that.
00:28:54.560 I think that
00:28:55.340 one of the funniest
00:28:56.120 political mistakes,
00:28:57.660 and I think it's
00:28:58.120 a mistake,
00:28:58.960 is the Democrats
00:28:59.840 are apparently
00:29:00.320 funding the extreme
00:29:01.680 mega Republican
00:29:03.680 candidates
00:29:04.360 in the primaries
00:29:05.360 under the clever
00:29:06.800 theory that
00:29:08.440 if their
00:29:09.000 Democrat candidate
00:29:10.360 runs in the
00:29:11.080 general election
00:29:11.720 against the most
00:29:12.540 extreme person,
00:29:14.160 that they've got
00:29:14.680 a real advantage,
00:29:15.520 because nobody
00:29:16.020 wants the extreme
00:29:16.800 person.
00:29:17.940 So much so
00:29:18.700 that they're
00:29:19.300 massively funding
00:29:20.720 the most extreme
00:29:22.500 Republican candidates.
00:29:23.920 So it's Democrats
00:29:24.960 who are funding
00:29:26.820 their opponents
00:29:28.320 to make sure
00:29:29.900 they get the
00:29:30.360 worst opponent,
00:29:31.640 so they have
00:29:32.120 an advantage.
00:29:32.620 What do you
00:29:33.780 think of that
00:29:34.140 idea?
00:29:35.280 Pretty good
00:29:35.940 idea or
00:29:36.500 pretty bad
00:29:37.420 idea?
00:29:39.800 Let me tell
00:29:41.160 you the
00:29:41.720 five-lane
00:29:43.920 persuasion highway
00:29:45.140 that they opened
00:29:45.980 that maybe they
00:29:46.940 haven't noticed
00:29:47.520 yet.
00:29:48.740 And it goes
00:29:49.220 like this.
00:29:50.520 Let's say I'm
00:29:51.080 one of those
00:29:51.580 extreme Republicans
00:29:52.540 who just won
00:29:53.500 the primary.
00:29:54.700 Here's what I
00:29:55.440 would say.
00:29:55.800 I got more
00:29:59.040 donations from
00:30:00.040 Democrats than
00:30:01.120 Republicans.
00:30:04.060 And we're done
00:30:04.780 here.
00:30:07.240 I got the
00:30:07.740 most, or
00:30:08.700 this is better,
00:30:10.600 don't say you
00:30:11.580 got more.
00:30:12.400 Say I got more
00:30:13.500 donations from
00:30:15.680 Democrat sources
00:30:16.620 than any
00:30:17.820 candidate who's
00:30:18.620 run in this
00:30:19.400 state before.
00:30:20.040 And you're
00:30:23.520 done.
00:30:24.840 Because it's
00:30:25.460 true.
00:30:27.080 It's true.
00:30:28.220 Fact check it.
00:30:29.640 Now suppose you
00:30:30.320 fact check it,
00:30:31.780 and then the
00:30:33.280 voters get
00:30:35.200 wise, and the
00:30:36.640 voters catch on
00:30:37.380 to the nuance.
00:30:38.260 They're, wait a
00:30:38.920 minute, the
00:30:39.360 voters say.
00:30:40.480 You said that
00:30:41.400 they funded you,
00:30:42.240 but now that I
00:30:42.820 know the details,
00:30:44.000 really this was a
00:30:44.960 special case.
00:30:46.100 They're really
00:30:46.620 funding you to
00:30:47.900 win the primary,
00:30:49.040 to be better.
00:30:50.480 Voters don't
00:30:51.260 understand that.
00:30:53.380 The ones who do
00:30:54.600 understand that
00:30:55.560 have already made
00:30:57.160 up their mind.
00:30:58.720 If you follow
00:30:59.740 politics enough
00:31:00.700 that you understand
00:31:02.220 the Democrats
00:31:03.040 were trying to 1.00
00:31:03.680 fuck with the 1.00
00:31:04.280 Republicans, if 1.00
00:31:05.420 you understand
00:31:05.940 that, you've
00:31:06.900 already made up
00:31:07.460 your mind who
00:31:07.980 you're going to
00:31:08.300 vote for.
00:31:09.280 If you're anywhere
00:31:10.360 in the hardly
00:31:11.360 paying attention,
00:31:12.300 I could go
00:31:12.760 either way,
00:31:13.420 candidates, the
00:31:14.460 only thing you're
00:31:15.140 going to understand
00:31:15.700 is that the
00:31:16.400 Democrats also
00:31:17.900 supported this
00:31:18.660 Republican.
00:31:19.480 that's what
00:31:21.720 you'll come
00:31:22.140 away with.
00:31:22.900 Because remember,
00:31:23.500 people are only
00:31:24.020 getting 10% of
00:31:25.060 every topic.
00:31:26.560 The 10% of that
00:31:27.580 topic they'll
00:31:28.140 understand is that
00:31:28.920 both sides donated
00:31:29.880 to this guy.
00:31:32.700 I don't know,
00:31:33.120 it looks like one
00:31:34.020 of the biggest
00:31:34.500 political mistakes
00:31:35.580 of all time,
00:31:37.080 and somewhat
00:31:37.500 obvious one.
00:31:39.040 But if they
00:31:41.000 pull it off,
00:31:42.520 I will tell you
00:31:43.760 I was wrong.
00:31:44.220 I will tell you
00:31:45.940 I was wrong
00:31:46.600 if they get
00:31:47.460 away with it,
00:31:48.020 but I think
00:31:48.620 it's going to
00:31:49.040 backfire.
00:31:50.300 So I'm going
00:31:50.760 to bet that
00:31:51.480 the ones who
00:31:52.420 got massive
00:31:53.020 Democrat
00:31:53.420 fundings under
00:31:54.240 this condition,
00:31:55.780 under the
00:31:56.240 following condition,
00:31:57.660 that those
00:31:58.100 candidates recognize
00:31:59.460 that saying that
00:32:00.960 they got the
00:32:01.480 most funding from
00:32:02.420 both sides that
00:32:03.300 anybody ever got
00:32:04.260 is the way to
00:32:06.280 play it.
00:32:06.880 They'd have to
00:32:07.340 play it right.
00:32:08.780 They have to
00:32:09.320 play it right,
00:32:09.880 not just ignore it.
00:32:10.720 But if they
00:32:11.100 play it right,
00:32:12.680 I think they're
00:32:14.020 golden.
00:32:17.420 Mike Cernovich
00:32:18.180 being Mike
00:32:18.980 Cernovich more
00:32:20.900 than anybody
00:32:21.520 has ever been
00:32:22.120 Mike Cernovich.
00:32:24.480 I swear to God,
00:32:25.240 one of the things
00:32:25.640 I love about that
00:32:26.400 guy more than
00:32:26.980 anything is that
00:32:28.080 he's not like
00:32:28.580 anybody else,
00:32:30.040 and he's like
00:32:30.720 aggressively not
00:32:32.020 like anybody else.
00:32:33.440 So it's always
00:32:34.060 interesting.
00:32:35.440 And he tweeted
00:32:36.500 today,
00:32:37.440 the FBI has to
00:32:38.420 be closed down.
00:32:39.420 It's beyond
00:32:40.780 reform.
00:32:41.960 State and local
00:32:42.700 law enforcement
00:32:43.240 can prosecute
00:32:43.960 the real crimes,
00:32:45.440 and parenthetically
00:32:46.240 he says pedophiles
00:32:47.160 like Larry Nassar
00:32:48.040 and Epstein,
00:32:49.400 disband the
00:32:50.060 Stasi. 0.95
00:32:53.400 And when I
00:32:54.280 first read that,
00:32:54.980 I thought,
00:32:55.320 oh, that's too
00:32:55.920 far.
00:32:57.300 That's too far.
00:32:58.580 But then I
00:32:59.140 realized,
00:33:00.200 you know,
00:33:01.520 if you're
00:33:01.960 Cernovich,
00:33:02.800 you understand
00:33:03.540 how things
00:33:04.040 work.
00:33:05.200 And there's
00:33:06.040 no such thing
00:33:06.560 as too far.
00:33:07.800 There's just
00:33:08.420 an opening
00:33:08.800 offer.
00:33:10.080 Right?
00:33:10.840 So opening
00:33:11.700 offer,
00:33:12.540 get rid of
00:33:13.000 them completely.
00:33:14.460 And I
00:33:15.040 agree completely.
00:33:16.480 I'm totally
00:33:17.240 on board.
00:33:18.560 Opening
00:33:18.900 offer is
00:33:19.680 get rid of
00:33:20.060 them completely.
00:33:21.740 Now,
00:33:22.300 it seems like
00:33:22.820 that would be
00:33:23.180 a giant
00:33:23.540 problem,
00:33:24.420 because it
00:33:24.720 would leave,
00:33:25.160 you know,
00:33:25.460 a big gap
00:33:26.120 and things
00:33:27.120 that are covered,
00:33:27.780 and we would
00:33:28.200 want those gaps
00:33:28.860 covered.
00:33:29.520 And I don't
00:33:29.860 think local
00:33:30.560 law enforcement
00:33:31.220 could necessarily
00:33:31.960 fill in.
00:33:33.100 So I don't
00:33:33.520 think this is
00:33:34.040 a practical
00:33:34.580 idea.
00:33:35.780 But as an
00:33:36.620 opening offer,
00:33:37.500 uh-huh,
00:33:38.280 yep,
00:33:38.520 I'm on
00:33:39.520 board.
00:33:40.400 I have no
00:33:41.160 idea how
00:33:41.640 this could
00:33:42.020 be made
00:33:42.400 to work.
00:33:43.260 But on the
00:33:43.740 other hand,
00:33:44.260 the current
00:33:44.620 situation is
00:33:45.620 untenable.
00:33:48.360 You don't
00:33:49.020 really have a
00:33:49.540 choice of
00:33:49.960 continuing the
00:33:50.720 way we are.
00:33:52.180 So the
00:33:52.860 opening offer,
00:33:54.240 completely get
00:33:54.920 rid of them.
00:33:55.600 I'm totally
00:33:56.180 on board with
00:33:56.680 that.
00:33:56.840 here's a
00:33:59.260 sort of an
00:34:01.580 analogy,
00:34:02.440 I guess.
00:34:03.660 When I
00:34:04.020 worked in
00:34:05.040 banking,
00:34:06.560 I'm not
00:34:06.980 sure if this
00:34:07.420 is still
00:34:07.840 true,
00:34:08.800 but if you
00:34:11.420 were a
00:34:11.640 banker,
00:34:12.120 you were
00:34:12.420 required to
00:34:13.140 take,
00:34:13.420 and I
00:34:13.580 can't
00:34:13.760 remember,
00:34:15.000 I think
00:34:17.880 there were
00:34:18.220 some
00:34:18.460 that every
00:34:20.140 employee has
00:34:20.820 to take
00:34:21.140 four consecutive
00:34:21.940 days off in
00:34:22.820 a calendar
00:34:23.260 year.
00:34:23.520 And you
00:34:24.860 say,
00:34:25.120 why is that?
00:34:26.080 I mean,
00:34:26.460 I get that
00:34:26.920 they have to
00:34:27.220 take vacations,
00:34:28.020 but what's
00:34:28.580 important about
00:34:29.300 four consecutive
00:34:30.640 days?
00:34:31.780 And it
00:34:32.120 turns out that
00:34:32.660 there were
00:34:32.900 some ways
00:34:33.600 that employees
00:34:34.220 could steal
00:34:34.940 money from
00:34:35.420 banks that
00:34:36.760 required being
00:34:37.500 there every
00:34:38.020 day to
00:34:38.700 re-falsify the
00:34:40.220 records.
00:34:41.300 So you had to
00:34:41.920 continually re-falsify
00:34:43.280 to move forward
00:34:44.420 your fraud.
00:34:45.680 And so they
00:34:46.200 would make
00:34:46.500 every employee
00:34:47.100 take four days
00:34:47.860 off because
00:34:48.360 they couldn't
00:34:48.940 move forward
00:34:49.600 their fraud
00:34:50.140 while they were
00:34:50.580 gone.
00:34:51.720 And that's
00:34:52.080 how they'd
00:34:52.340 catch them.
00:34:52.920 And they
00:34:53.100 caught a lot of
00:34:53.420 people that
00:34:53.780 way.
00:34:54.160 It actually
00:34:54.660 worked.
00:34:56.020 And I
00:34:56.600 think about
00:34:57.060 that with
00:34:58.340 the FBI.
00:34:59.540 Like,
00:34:59.780 somehow that
00:35:00.280 reminds me of
00:35:01.040 it.
00:35:01.760 Because it's
00:35:02.600 pretty radical
00:35:03.300 to say that
00:35:03.980 you can't
00:35:04.340 even come to
00:35:04.820 work for
00:35:05.300 four days
00:35:05.920 because not
00:35:07.700 only do we
00:35:08.500 suspect that
00:35:09.400 you might try
00:35:10.160 something,
00:35:11.160 but we know
00:35:11.740 you will.
00:35:13.700 So bankers
00:35:14.900 have a very,
00:35:16.840 let's say,
00:35:17.860 a realistic
00:35:18.520 belief about
00:35:19.760 people.
00:35:20.280 They have to.
00:35:21.360 If you're a 0.88
00:35:21.820 banker, you're
00:35:22.380 very realistic
00:35:23.220 about people.
00:35:24.580 Otherwise, you
00:35:25.080 lose all your
00:35:25.560 money.
00:35:26.780 And one of
00:35:27.460 the things that
00:35:27.860 bankers know is
00:35:28.640 it doesn't
00:35:29.060 matter how
00:35:29.500 honest you
00:35:30.060 were when
00:35:30.440 you were
00:35:30.680 hired.
00:35:32.460 You get
00:35:33.100 that?
00:35:33.960 It doesn't
00:35:34.400 matter how
00:35:34.880 honest you
00:35:35.500 were when
00:35:35.900 you were
00:35:36.160 hired.
00:35:37.260 If you see
00:35:38.120 an opportunity
00:35:38.680 to steal
00:35:39.200 money and
00:35:39.580 not get
00:35:39.940 caught,
00:35:41.580 it's going
00:35:43.300 to happen.
00:35:44.240 It's going
00:35:44.860 to happen.
00:35:45.800 Maybe not
00:35:46.440 you, right?
00:35:47.680 Maybe not
00:35:48.140 you.
00:35:48.440 But there
00:35:49.940 will be
00:35:50.160 enough people
00:35:50.760 cycling
00:35:51.200 through that
00:35:51.820 opportunity.
00:35:53.100 Somebody's
00:35:53.580 going to
00:35:53.780 take it.
00:35:55.060 So bankers
00:35:55.660 know that if
00:35:56.140 you leave
00:35:56.480 anything
00:35:56.880 stealable,
00:35:57.680 it'll get
00:35:58.020 stolen.
00:35:59.220 That's
00:35:59.660 probably the
00:36:00.600 most basic
00:36:01.280 banking
00:36:02.460 theory.
00:36:03.720 If it can
00:36:04.280 be stolen,
00:36:04.860 somebody's
00:36:05.180 going to
00:36:05.300 steal it.
00:36:06.260 So that's
00:36:06.860 what the
00:36:07.080 bank does,
00:36:07.640 keeps it
00:36:07.980 from getting
00:36:08.280 stolen.
00:36:08.580 And it
00:36:09.820 seems to
00:36:10.180 me that
00:36:10.740 the FBI,
00:36:12.600 much like
00:36:13.700 Mike Cernovich's
00:36:14.480 point, might
00:36:15.940 be beyond
00:36:16.680 the point
00:36:17.320 where tweaks
00:36:18.760 would make a
00:36:19.380 difference.
00:36:20.460 Because the
00:36:20.840 people doing
00:36:21.520 the tweaking
00:36:22.040 would be the
00:36:22.540 people we
00:36:22.960 didn't trust.
00:36:24.580 So you
00:36:25.060 might have to
00:36:25.700 completely
00:36:26.200 dismantle it
00:36:27.180 and then
00:36:28.820 rebuild it.
00:36:30.540 I mean,
00:36:30.780 maybe you
00:36:31.140 keep the
00:36:31.640 rented space
00:36:32.600 and stuff,
00:36:33.140 I don't know.
00:36:34.180 But you
00:36:34.560 might have to
00:36:34.960 do something
00:36:35.400 closer to
00:36:36.080 destroying it
00:36:36.740 and rebuilding
00:36:37.160 it from
00:36:37.540 scratch.
00:36:38.040 I don't know
00:36:38.320 what that
00:36:38.540 looks like.
00:36:39.520 But it's
00:36:39.900 a conversation
00:36:40.560 as people
00:36:42.060 who don't
00:36:42.380 have any
00:36:42.720 good ideas
00:36:43.280 like to
00:36:43.700 say.
00:36:44.640 It's a
00:36:44.960 conversation
00:36:45.460 the country
00:36:45.920 has to
00:36:46.260 have.
00:36:47.600 You know,
00:36:47.840 the least
00:36:49.020 useful thing
00:36:49.740 a pundit
00:36:51.060 can say?
00:36:52.060 You know,
00:36:52.320 that's the
00:36:52.680 conversation
00:36:53.220 the country
00:36:53.760 needs to
00:36:54.160 have.
00:36:54.880 I just
00:36:55.240 did it
00:36:55.560 because I
00:36:55.860 don't have
00:36:56.100 any idea
00:36:56.580 how to
00:36:56.940 fix anything
00:36:57.380 either.
00:37:03.140 Here's a
00:37:03.840 feeling that
00:37:05.780 I've got.
00:37:07.280 You know,
00:37:07.540 we've got
00:37:07.860 a zillion
00:37:08.820 different
00:37:09.220 topics and
00:37:10.260 there are
00:37:10.780 reasons to
00:37:11.360 vote for
00:37:11.700 one candidate
00:37:12.340 versus another
00:37:13.120 and you
00:37:14.080 could talk
00:37:14.440 forever about
00:37:15.000 all the
00:37:15.280 different ins
00:37:15.840 and outs
00:37:16.240 of advantages
00:37:17.400 and disadvantages.
00:37:19.200 But every
00:37:20.680 now and then
00:37:21.140 there's something
00:37:21.640 that pops out
00:37:22.380 as a single
00:37:23.360 issue where I
00:37:25.300 would just say,
00:37:25.920 okay, I don't
00:37:26.620 care about
00:37:26.980 anything else.
00:37:27.560 I'm just going
00:37:27.920 to vote on
00:37:28.320 that single
00:37:28.780 issue.
00:37:29.820 Probably a lot
00:37:30.600 of Democrats
00:37:31.060 will vote and
00:37:31.900 maybe Republicans
00:37:32.580 do on the
00:37:33.480 issue of
00:37:33.820 abortion.
00:37:34.160 Now, if
00:37:36.680 that was
00:37:37.040 your single
00:37:37.580 issue, I
00:37:38.960 would respect
00:37:39.420 that.
00:37:40.560 It's not
00:37:41.080 mine.
00:37:42.040 It's not my
00:37:42.840 single issue.
00:37:43.700 But if it
00:37:44.280 was yours, if
00:37:45.020 it were yours,
00:37:45.820 I'd respect
00:37:46.660 that.
00:37:47.220 That would be
00:37:47.860 important enough
00:37:48.740 to be a single
00:37:49.860 issue voter on.
00:37:51.280 Immigration,
00:37:51.980 same thing.
00:37:53.180 If you said,
00:37:53.900 I don't care about
00:37:54.340 anything except
00:37:55.060 stopping immigration 1.00
00:37:56.220 or I don't care
00:37:57.720 about anything except
00:37:58.440 stopping inflation,
00:38:00.000 those would be
00:38:00.560 good, pretty good
00:38:02.100 single issue
00:38:02.800 topics.
00:38:04.600 I'm going to
00:38:05.160 give you my
00:38:05.680 single issue
00:38:06.300 topic.
00:38:09.140 What's up with
00:38:09.860 Ray Epps?
00:38:11.980 That's it.
00:38:12.580 That's my whole
00:38:13.020 topic.
00:38:14.600 That's the reason
00:38:15.380 to vote Republican.
00:38:17.680 Because if you
00:38:18.380 vote Republican,
00:38:19.180 there's some chance
00:38:19.820 we might find out
00:38:20.600 what's up with
00:38:21.160 Ray Epps.
00:38:22.300 So if you don't
00:38:23.040 know, Ray Epps
00:38:23.580 was the person
00:38:24.960 who was on
00:38:25.660 video encouraging
00:38:26.780 people to enter
00:38:27.560 the Capitol on
00:38:28.400 January 6th.
00:38:29.520 But he was not
00:38:30.540 arrested.
00:38:30.940 I don't believe
00:38:32.200 his phone was
00:38:32.880 taken, but we
00:38:33.540 don't know that
00:38:34.020 for sure.
00:38:34.740 I don't think
00:38:35.100 we know that,
00:38:36.100 but there's no
00:38:36.580 evidence he was
00:38:37.240 given the same
00:38:38.660 treatment as,
00:38:39.380 let's say,
00:38:39.740 Michael Lindell,
00:38:41.040 who the FBI
00:38:42.120 surrounded and
00:38:43.040 took his phone
00:38:44.140 from him.
00:38:45.000 His phone from
00:38:45.860 which he runs
00:38:46.440 his entire
00:38:46.900 company.
00:38:48.700 Most important
00:38:49.560 tool he has.
00:38:50.140 They just took
00:38:50.560 it from him.
00:38:51.920 And Thomas
00:38:54.820 Massey tweeted
00:38:55.940 this.
00:38:56.880 He said,
00:38:57.260 when Merrick
00:38:58.000 Garland testified
00:38:58.860 in front of the
00:38:59.460 House Judiciary
00:39:00.100 Committee,
00:39:00.940 I showed him
00:39:01.620 this video.
00:39:02.720 He then refused
00:39:03.540 to answer,
00:39:04.180 the video was
00:39:04.860 about Ray Epps,
00:39:05.500 I believe.
00:39:06.320 He then refused
00:39:07.180 to answer my
00:39:07.720 question of how
00:39:08.860 many agents or
00:39:09.880 assets of the
00:39:10.680 federal government
00:39:11.340 were present on
00:39:12.300 January 5th and
00:39:13.220 6th.
00:39:14.300 And I'd sort of
00:39:15.600 forgotten that the
00:39:16.860 government had
00:39:17.600 confirmed that they
00:39:18.820 were part of that.
00:39:20.380 And when I say
00:39:21.260 confirmed, by refusing
00:39:22.800 to say they
00:39:24.200 weren't.
00:39:25.360 To me, I accept
00:39:26.200 that as a
00:39:26.720 confirmation.
00:39:27.080 Now, we don't
00:39:28.040 know how much.
00:39:29.640 If it was, you
00:39:30.320 know, just a
00:39:31.120 little, I'd say,
00:39:32.240 oh, okay, that
00:39:32.780 didn't matter.
00:39:33.820 If it were a
00:39:34.680 lot, then I
00:39:36.160 would say that's
00:39:36.680 the whole story.
00:39:38.720 And so,
00:39:40.020 I,
00:39:41.280 independent of
00:39:43.200 whether it
00:39:43.740 matters that
00:39:44.860 Ray Epps was or
00:39:45.860 was not part of
00:39:46.900 the FBI,
00:39:47.840 independent of
00:39:48.520 whether that
00:39:48.920 matters and
00:39:49.400 independent of
00:39:49.940 what he did,
00:39:50.720 the fact that
00:39:51.400 your government
00:39:51.900 won't tell you,
00:39:52.680 this is the
00:39:54.720 central question
00:39:55.580 of the
00:39:55.980 republic.
00:39:57.600 And let me
00:39:58.020 say this.
00:39:59.120 If it turns out
00:39:59.840 that Ray Epps
00:40:00.380 was nothing but
00:40:01.320 a patriot who
00:40:03.260 was trying to
00:40:03.920 make his
00:40:04.420 beliefs known,
00:40:05.980 which is
00:40:06.980 entirely possible,
00:40:09.100 does anybody
00:40:09.560 rule out that
00:40:10.740 it's possible
00:40:11.500 he's just a
00:40:12.240 patriot?
00:40:13.720 It's possible,
00:40:15.400 isn't it?
00:40:16.480 It's possible.
00:40:19.560 I know you
00:40:20.380 think probably
00:40:21.020 not.
00:40:21.440 I'm not going
00:40:22.560 to argue it
00:40:23.020 probably,
00:40:24.360 but it's
00:40:24.800 possible.
00:40:26.780 Right?
00:40:27.060 It's possible.
00:40:29.120 So,
00:40:30.220 I would say
00:40:32.000 that if he's
00:40:33.140 legit,
00:40:34.020 and if,
00:40:34.700 and a related
00:40:35.580 question,
00:40:36.580 if he was
00:40:37.340 legit,
00:40:37.880 as in not a
00:40:38.540 Fed,
00:40:39.380 and the
00:40:40.040 Feds ever
00:40:40.600 give us an
00:40:41.280 honest answer
00:40:41.960 about their
00:40:42.460 involvement,
00:40:43.900 then I would
00:40:44.400 say,
00:40:44.660 you know,
00:40:45.960 it looks like
00:40:46.900 Trump might
00:40:47.920 not be the
00:40:48.440 best solution
00:40:49.280 for the
00:40:49.660 country,
00:40:50.340 because he
00:40:51.100 was involved
00:40:51.620 in this,
00:40:52.120 and even
00:40:52.560 if you
00:40:52.860 want to
00:40:53.160 excuse his
00:40:53.880 behavior,
00:40:55.100 he's just
00:40:55.700 part of
00:40:56.360 his big 0.97
00:40:56.880 ugly thing, 0.96
00:40:58.140 there would
00:40:58.480 be a blight
00:40:59.240 on the
00:40:59.560 republic,
00:41:00.320 and maybe
00:41:00.980 we should
00:41:01.420 just move
00:41:01.840 on,
00:41:02.460 clear the
00:41:04.060 slate,
00:41:05.380 just start
00:41:05.820 with a
00:41:06.260 clean plate.
00:41:08.180 I can see
00:41:08.680 that.
00:41:10.660 But,
00:41:11.540 if it turns
00:41:13.080 out that we
00:41:13.740 are not being
00:41:14.400 told what
00:41:14.980 Ray Epps
00:41:15.380 was up to,
00:41:16.120 or any
00:41:17.140 other federal
00:41:18.020 assets,
00:41:18.600 if they
00:41:18.900 were there,
00:41:19.560 if we're
00:41:19.960 not going
00:41:20.340 to be
00:41:20.520 told that,
00:41:21.600 then that's
00:41:23.160 my one
00:41:23.540 issue.
00:41:25.340 Then I
00:41:25.900 could support
00:41:26.900 Trump.
00:41:27.880 Even if
00:41:28.500 everything about
00:41:29.280 him that you
00:41:29.880 say is true
00:41:30.420 is true.
00:41:33.380 Even if he
00:41:34.120 had secrets he
00:41:35.180 shouldn't have
00:41:35.540 had in
00:41:35.980 Bar-a-Lago,
00:41:37.460 even if he
00:41:38.740 is guilty of
00:41:41.240 some minor
00:41:42.360 financial
00:41:43.280 campaign thing,
00:41:45.920 I don't know,
00:41:47.340 I wouldn't
00:41:47.700 care about
00:41:48.060 any of it.
00:41:49.380 Because if
00:41:49.980 your republic
00:41:50.540 won't tell
00:41:51.140 you if
00:41:51.700 they're the
00:41:52.100 ones who
00:41:52.640 did the
00:41:53.220 treason,
00:41:54.680 because that
00:41:55.120 would have
00:41:55.340 been,
00:41:56.120 if the
00:41:56.780 FBI was
00:41:57.440 that involved,
00:41:58.480 as much as
00:41:59.420 the people
00:42:00.080 on the
00:42:00.360 right like
00:42:00.980 to think,
00:42:01.600 if they
00:42:02.000 were,
00:42:03.180 then that
00:42:03.580 was treason.
00:42:05.960 Wasn't it?
00:42:07.220 I mean,
00:42:07.680 it was a
00:42:08.480 form of
00:42:08.800 treason.
00:42:09.620 If they
00:42:10.280 weren't,
00:42:11.240 then it
00:42:11.860 looks more
00:42:12.880 like the
00:42:13.220 argument that
00:42:13.900 the badness
00:42:15.020 was all
00:42:15.380 in the
00:42:15.580 right.
00:42:16.840 But we
00:42:17.520 need to
00:42:17.860 know that.
00:42:19.680 We don't
00:42:20.540 need to
00:42:20.860 just pass
00:42:22.020 that.
00:42:23.700 That's a
00:42:24.320 do not
00:42:24.720 pass Ray
00:42:25.340 Epps,
00:42:25.880 you don't
00:42:26.780 get to
00:42:27.080 go anywhere
00:42:27.500 else.
00:42:28.920 So that
00:42:29.340 would be
00:42:29.720 my stopping
00:42:31.000 point,
00:42:31.380 my single
00:42:31.860 point.
00:42:32.640 I need
00:42:33.060 to know
00:42:33.340 an answer
00:42:33.680 to that
00:42:33.960 question.
00:42:34.560 I need
00:42:34.860 to know
00:42:35.100 the answer
00:42:35.460 to Thomas
00:42:36.040 Massey's
00:42:36.560 question.
00:42:37.540 And if
00:42:37.920 I don't
00:42:38.260 get an
00:42:38.580 answer,
00:42:39.020 I'm all
00:42:39.460 Republican.
00:42:39.940 I'm not
00:42:41.380 a Republican,
00:42:42.120 but I'll
00:42:42.800 support whoever
00:42:44.280 the Republican
00:42:44.940 candidate is.
00:42:45.880 I don't
00:42:46.060 care who
00:42:46.360 it is.
00:42:47.780 But they've
00:42:48.280 got a promise
00:42:49.000 that they're
00:42:49.440 going to get
00:42:49.720 to the
00:42:49.960 bottom of
00:42:50.280 this.
00:42:51.120 If the
00:42:51.480 Republican
00:42:51.860 candidate
00:42:52.300 said,
00:42:52.680 hey,
00:42:52.840 we have
00:42:53.140 to leave
00:42:53.460 it in the
00:42:53.720 past,
00:42:54.080 then I'm
00:42:54.240 like,
00:42:54.400 okay,
00:42:54.700 that's
00:42:54.860 different.
00:42:55.640 So
00:42:55.800 basically
00:42:56.280 neither of
00:42:56.820 you have
00:42:57.040 an idea.
00:42:58.280 But this
00:42:59.460 is it.
00:43:01.060 I want
00:43:01.720 to know
00:43:02.060 if he's
00:43:02.500 just a
00:43:02.840 patriot.
00:43:03.960 Because if
00:43:04.520 he is,
00:43:05.100 then maybe
00:43:05.560 I'll
00:43:05.840 disbelieve a
00:43:06.860 lot of
00:43:07.120 the things
00:43:07.500 that the
00:43:07.860 Republicans
00:43:08.260 say.
00:43:09.200 Or a
00:43:09.560 lot more.
00:43:11.560 Will I
00:43:12.260 actually vote?
00:43:13.280 Probably not.
00:43:14.440 But I would
00:43:15.480 definitely make
00:43:16.140 noise.
00:43:18.240 And I
00:43:19.600 think that
00:43:19.920 would be a
00:43:20.700 legitimate
00:43:21.680 single topic
00:43:24.300 vote.
00:43:25.520 You have to
00:43:26.180 tell us this
00:43:27.240 is the minimum
00:43:27.880 we need to
00:43:28.460 know is do
00:43:29.740 we have a
00:43:30.260 republic still.
00:43:31.040 Am I wrong?
00:43:33.480 The minimum
00:43:34.020 you need to
00:43:34.680 know as
00:43:35.640 a citizen,
00:43:37.060 does the
00:43:37.300 republic still
00:43:38.660 exist?
00:43:39.880 Because remember
00:43:40.760 they did
00:43:41.240 show their
00:43:41.640 hand with
00:43:42.200 that 50 0.91
00:43:43.100 current and
00:43:46.000 prior intel
00:43:46.820 people who
00:43:47.420 said the
00:43:47.800 laptop was
00:43:48.400 fake.
00:43:49.540 Once we
00:43:50.140 saw that,
00:43:51.200 and now we
00:43:51.620 know for
00:43:51.980 sure that
00:43:52.340 that was
00:43:52.700 an op,
00:43:53.880 that was
00:43:54.560 our
00:43:54.740 intelligence
00:43:55.240 people running
00:43:56.540 an op on
00:43:57.320 the public.
00:43:58.980 That was
00:43:59.680 real.
00:44:00.560 That's
00:44:00.920 confirmed.
00:44:01.860 We know
00:44:02.280 that to
00:44:02.620 be true.
00:44:03.560 We don't
00:44:03.880 have to
00:44:04.140 guess.
00:44:05.500 Given that
00:44:06.040 that was
00:44:06.360 true, we
00:44:08.040 don't know
00:44:08.500 if we have
00:44:08.940 a republic.
00:44:10.600 And I
00:44:10.860 would say
00:44:11.220 that the
00:44:11.800 answer to
00:44:12.220 this whole
00:44:12.620 Ray Epps
00:44:13.120 plus any
00:44:14.300 other FBI
00:44:15.060 assets that
00:44:15.780 were not
00:44:16.340 there, the
00:44:17.520 answer to
00:44:18.080 that question
00:44:18.740 tells you
00:44:20.240 if you have
00:44:20.640 a republic.
00:44:23.500 Am I
00:44:24.120 wrong?
00:44:25.800 Let's
00:44:26.280 not, don't
00:44:27.180 make us think
00:44:27.740 past the
00:44:28.180 sale.
00:44:28.960 Do we
00:44:29.420 still have
00:44:29.860 a republic
00:44:30.260 or has
00:44:31.800 the deep
00:44:32.200 state
00:44:32.580 completely
00:44:33.620 taken over?
00:44:35.260 Have they
00:44:35.580 completely
00:44:35.980 taken over?
00:44:39.560 And I
00:44:40.120 would think
00:44:40.420 that this
00:44:40.920 would be
00:44:41.140 an interesting
00:44:41.620 appeal to
00:44:42.260 independent
00:44:42.780 voters because
00:44:44.100 I would, if
00:44:45.140 I were a
00:44:45.560 republican
00:44:45.860 especially, I'd
00:44:47.400 say, here's
00:44:48.060 the deal.
00:44:49.220 All of you
00:44:49.800 independent
00:44:50.260 voters, I
00:44:51.840 know you
00:44:52.160 can go
00:44:52.520 either way.
00:44:53.280 That's what
00:44:53.680 makes you
00:44:54.000 independent
00:44:54.380 voters.
00:44:54.920 In reality,
00:44:55.600 they usually
00:44:56.200 go the way
00:44:56.700 they always
00:44:57.360 lean.
00:44:58.200 But there
00:44:58.540 might be a
00:44:58.900 few.
00:44:59.740 You say to
00:45:00.140 look, I'm
00:45:01.120 going to
00:45:01.300 find out
00:45:01.740 what happened
00:45:02.280 with the
00:45:02.660 FBI and
00:45:03.700 Ray Epps
00:45:04.160 if I'm
00:45:04.640 president.
00:45:06.340 Whatever it
00:45:06.980 is, whatever
00:45:08.820 the answer is,
00:45:09.620 we're going to
00:45:09.960 live with that.
00:45:11.000 But we're
00:45:11.360 going to find
00:45:11.800 out.
00:45:12.960 You
00:45:13.200 independents,
00:45:14.060 that's the
00:45:14.380 only way you're
00:45:14.800 going to find
00:45:15.140 out?
00:45:16.160 If we still
00:45:16.920 have a
00:45:17.220 republic.
00:45:18.420 I will tell
00:45:19.260 you if you
00:45:19.760 still have a
00:45:20.260 republic, but
00:45:20.820 you've got to
00:45:21.140 get me into
00:45:21.540 the presidency
00:45:22.100 to do that.
00:45:24.520 Because I
00:45:25.100 kind of am
00:45:25.960 very curious.
00:45:26.840 And here's
00:45:28.260 the persuasion
00:45:28.960 angle on
00:45:29.460 this.
00:45:30.500 Curiosity is
00:45:32.440 the most
00:45:32.860 underrated
00:45:33.680 persuasion
00:45:35.080 energy.
00:45:39.060 Have you
00:45:39.380 ever done 1.00
00:45:39.740 something stupid 1.00
00:45:40.560 because you 1.00
00:45:41.080 were curious?
00:45:44.600 Oh, yeah,
00:45:45.360 you have.
00:45:47.320 Yeah, you
00:45:47.980 have.
00:45:48.540 If you're
00:45:49.100 human.
00:45:50.520 Yeah.
00:45:51.900 Have you
00:45:52.440 ever been
00:45:52.820 obsessed by
00:45:54.780 something because
00:45:55.380 you didn't know
00:45:55.760 the answer and
00:45:56.540 you just had
00:45:57.040 to know because
00:45:58.240 you're so
00:45:58.540 curious?
00:45:59.680 Of course.
00:46:00.700 We're born to
00:46:02.540 be obsessed by
00:46:03.940 those things that
00:46:04.660 are not answered
00:46:05.320 and yet important.
00:46:07.120 You're designed
00:46:07.740 that way.
00:46:09.000 So I've
00:46:10.740 never, I can't
00:46:11.720 think of any
00:46:12.220 politician who's
00:46:12.960 ever taken
00:46:13.380 advantage of
00:46:13.960 that.
00:46:14.280 But authors do
00:46:15.140 all the time.
00:46:16.140 If you read a
00:46:17.060 Harry Potter
00:46:17.620 novel, at the
00:46:18.920 end of each
00:46:19.380 chapter there's
00:46:20.060 like a little
00:46:20.440 mystery.
00:46:21.420 Like where did
00:46:21.920 that sound come
00:46:22.760 from and why
00:46:23.960 does that happen?
00:46:26.540 I'm going to
00:46:31.260 get back to
00:46:31.660 your question,
00:46:32.280 Carpe.
00:46:33.620 So anyway, I
00:46:36.360 think that if
00:46:37.500 the Republican
00:46:38.540 candidate says,
00:46:39.520 look, we've got
00:46:40.400 this mystery, we
00:46:41.320 don't know if we
00:46:41.980 still have a
00:46:42.460 republic, but I'll
00:46:43.800 get to the
00:46:44.220 bottom of it.
00:46:44.820 I'll answer the
00:46:45.560 question for you.
00:46:47.040 That would be
00:46:47.720 really, really
00:46:48.560 motivating to me
00:46:49.480 because curiosity
00:46:51.180 is a real
00:46:52.040 driving force.
00:46:52.880 All right, so
00:46:56.100 Carpe Donctum
00:46:57.460 just asked
00:46:58.660 the question,
00:46:59.520 if I used my
00:47:00.260 persuasion
00:47:00.980 abilities for
00:47:03.560 two years and
00:47:04.420 really worked on
00:47:05.160 reducing the
00:47:06.000 homeless problem
00:47:06.740 in California,
00:47:07.580 could I do it?
00:47:08.680 The answer is
00:47:09.220 no, I couldn't
00:47:09.880 even come close.
00:47:11.300 No, that would
00:47:12.140 be completely
00:47:12.920 impossible because
00:47:15.540 I can't talk to
00:47:16.760 the homeless.
00:47:18.560 And if I did,
00:47:19.460 they would say,
00:47:20.860 we choose to be
00:47:21.860 here.
00:47:23.300 Because we like
00:47:24.200 drugs, and if
00:47:25.300 you put us
00:47:25.720 indoors anywhere,
00:47:26.520 they're not
00:47:26.760 going to let us
00:47:27.120 do drugs.
00:47:28.600 So all things
00:47:29.480 being equal, I'd
00:47:30.260 rather be drugged
00:47:31.000 than on the
00:47:31.340 street, thank you
00:47:32.540 very much.
00:47:33.740 So no, there's
00:47:34.360 nothing I can
00:47:34.860 persuade.
00:47:35.580 Because you
00:47:36.220 can't persuade
00:47:36.780 people to do
00:47:37.460 something that's
00:47:38.020 bad for them
00:47:38.660 and they know
00:47:39.080 it.
00:47:40.380 The street
00:47:40.860 people know
00:47:41.400 what they
00:47:41.820 prefer.
00:47:42.980 If you think
00:47:43.760 that they're
00:47:44.280 wrong, so
00:47:46.800 what?
00:47:48.800 You think I'm
00:47:49.820 wrong, too.
00:47:51.100 Do you get a
00:47:51.740 vote?
00:47:52.880 How many of
00:47:53.620 you think I
00:47:54.140 shouldn't have a
00:47:54.940 third cup of
00:47:55.540 coffee today?
00:47:56.200 Somebody.
00:47:57.140 There's somebody
00:47:57.620 who thinks I
00:47:58.140 shouldn't have a
00:47:58.620 third cup of
00:47:59.260 coffee today.
00:48:00.600 Do you get a
00:48:01.420 vote?
00:48:02.020 No, you don't
00:48:02.500 get a vote.
00:48:03.800 Only I get a
00:48:04.620 vote.
00:48:05.720 The street people
00:48:06.400 don't care what
00:48:06.940 you think.
00:48:07.900 They only care what
00:48:08.620 they think.
00:48:09.840 And in their
00:48:10.340 opinion, as
00:48:11.640 living human
00:48:13.080 beings on the
00:48:13.780 planet Earth, and
00:48:14.700 mostly citizens of
00:48:16.320 America, they've
00:48:17.620 looked at their
00:48:18.080 options and they
00:48:18.760 say, you know, I
00:48:19.720 like being on
00:48:20.360 drugs and being
00:48:21.020 outdoors, compared
00:48:22.620 to being off
00:48:24.000 drugs and being
00:48:24.640 indoors.
00:48:27.900 They get to do
00:48:28.840 that.
00:48:29.400 That's their
00:48:29.900 choice.
00:48:30.540 So no, you
00:48:31.140 can't persuade
00:48:31.760 people to do
00:48:32.540 something that is
00:48:34.220 against their
00:48:34.720 interest as they
00:48:36.360 see it.
00:48:37.160 You could argue
00:48:38.180 that they should
00:48:39.780 see it differently,
00:48:40.720 but you can't
00:48:41.280 persuade people
00:48:41.980 against their own
00:48:42.660 self-interest.
00:48:44.740 Not really.
00:48:46.460 I mean, that's
00:48:46.780 the hardest
00:48:47.400 persuasion.
00:48:48.100 So no, I don't
00:48:48.980 think I could make
00:48:49.600 a dent in that.
00:48:50.680 I could work
00:48:51.340 around the
00:48:51.740 edges.
00:48:53.320 I could work
00:48:54.080 around the
00:48:54.480 edges, but I
00:48:56.140 couldn't just
00:48:57.040 clear the streets.
00:48:58.060 There's nobody
00:48:58.540 who could do
00:48:58.940 that with
00:48:59.240 persuasion.
00:49:01.600 That actually
00:49:02.280 has to be
00:49:02.700 force.
00:49:03.720 If you were
00:49:04.260 going to do
00:49:04.600 it, it would
00:49:04.940 be with
00:49:05.360 government
00:49:06.160 force.
00:49:07.120 We're going
00:49:07.580 to put you
00:49:07.920 in this
00:49:08.220 home for 30
00:49:09.500 days after that.
00:49:10.680 You're on your
00:49:11.060 own, but we're
00:49:11.880 going to at
00:49:12.160 least try to
00:49:12.560 fix you.
00:49:13.080 Something like
00:49:13.480 that.
00:49:14.200 You could argue
00:49:14.780 about the
00:49:15.360 ethics of
00:49:17.200 that.
00:49:18.420 All right.
00:49:19.700 Question.
00:49:21.040 If you were a
00:49:21.900 January 6th
00:49:22.660 defendant, why
00:49:25.180 can't you call
00:49:25.760 Ray Epps?
00:49:27.640 What am I
00:49:28.280 missing?
00:49:30.120 Is there a
00:49:30.800 lawyer here who
00:49:31.400 can answer that
00:49:31.900 question?
00:49:32.660 If I'm a
00:49:33.420 January 6th
00:49:34.420 defendant, I'm
00:49:35.160 still in jail,
00:49:36.400 I'm mounting
00:49:36.940 my defense, you
00:49:38.520 tell me I can't
00:49:39.260 call Ray Epps,
00:49:40.900 put him on the
00:49:41.540 stand, find out
00:49:43.420 if he's the
00:49:43.820 Fed?
00:49:45.360 That's not
00:49:47.120 relevant to my
00:49:48.100 defense.
00:49:49.700 Because here's
00:49:50.700 the argument.
00:49:52.020 The entire
00:49:52.560 argument is about
00:49:53.460 incitement to
00:49:55.580 riot.
00:49:56.560 It's not about
00:49:57.320 the riot.
00:49:58.520 It's also about
00:49:59.380 the riot.
00:50:00.240 But it's the
00:50:02.320 incitement.
00:50:03.700 The whole
00:50:04.340 question is, did
00:50:05.160 Trump incite a
00:50:06.260 riot?
00:50:08.040 Don't you need to
00:50:09.480 know all the
00:50:10.080 sources of
00:50:10.660 incitement?
00:50:11.120 If the
00:50:12.380 question is, did
00:50:13.220 somebody incite
00:50:14.180 it?
00:50:14.960 Well, you've
00:50:15.380 got to put on
00:50:15.960 the table all
00:50:16.700 the potential
00:50:17.300 people who
00:50:18.040 could have been
00:50:18.480 inciting it and
00:50:19.740 see which one
00:50:20.400 was doing the
00:50:21.340 inciting.
00:50:22.820 So if it's
00:50:23.720 illegal for a
00:50:24.800 president to
00:50:25.380 incite a riot,
00:50:27.200 well, certainly
00:50:27.840 it's illegal for
00:50:28.600 the FBI to do
00:50:29.460 it.
00:50:30.400 Wouldn't you
00:50:31.000 say?
00:50:32.400 Now, suppose the
00:50:34.780 courts say you
00:50:35.600 can't put Ray
00:50:36.380 Epps on the
00:50:36.860 stand because
00:50:37.560 there's no
00:50:39.100 evidence that he's
00:50:40.020 part of the
00:50:40.520 FBI, to
00:50:42.440 which I say I
00:50:43.380 don't get to
00:50:44.100 find out for
00:50:45.140 myself what's
00:50:45.820 true.
00:50:46.960 I don't get to
00:50:48.000 ask him in
00:50:48.520 public.
00:50:50.080 I would put
00:50:51.020 Garland on the
00:50:52.040 stand.
00:50:53.340 If I were a
00:50:54.220 January 6th
00:50:54.940 defendant, I
00:50:55.700 would put the
00:50:56.680 attorney general
00:50:57.520 on the stand.
00:50:59.240 I'd put them
00:50:59.920 all on the
00:51:00.280 stand.
00:51:00.460 I'd put the
00:51:00.820 government on
00:51:01.320 the stand.
00:51:01.920 Because in my
00:51:02.860 opinion, incitement
00:51:05.700 is incitement.
00:51:06.800 And I'd make
00:51:07.260 sure that everybody
00:51:07.960 saw all the
00:51:08.520 incitement from
00:51:09.220 all the sources.
00:51:10.020 I would put
00:51:11.060 the ex-head
00:51:12.520 Zucker of
00:51:14.340 CNN on the
00:51:15.440 stand.
00:51:16.840 And I'd say,
00:51:17.800 do you think
00:51:18.600 you incited
00:51:19.220 anybody?
00:51:22.620 Yeah.
00:51:23.500 Or Ray,
00:51:24.180 yeah.
00:51:25.100 I'd basically
00:51:25.920 put the whole 1.00
00:51:26.440 fucking government 1.00
00:51:27.120 on the stand. 1.00
00:51:28.600 Now, I don't
00:51:29.180 know if the
00:51:29.720 judge would
00:51:30.300 allow any of
00:51:31.080 that.
00:51:32.420 But if they
00:51:33.580 didn't at
00:51:34.120 least allow the
00:51:34.960 FBI or Ray
00:51:36.200 Epps or
00:51:36.560 somebody, I
00:51:38.860 don't see how
00:51:39.460 you could have
00:51:39.900 a trial.
00:51:41.240 I mean, I
00:51:41.680 feel like that
00:51:42.260 has to go to
00:51:42.800 the Supreme
00:51:43.280 Court if
00:51:43.920 you don't
00:51:44.180 get that.
00:51:47.900 All right.
00:51:49.920 You'd do
00:51:50.440 nothing in
00:51:51.380 D.C.
00:51:51.880 You'd sit
00:51:52.340 and rot.
00:51:52.860 Good luck.
00:51:53.580 Yeah, I
00:51:54.020 suppose if
00:51:54.620 you're in
00:51:54.840 D.C.
00:51:55.220 it's a
00:51:55.540 tougher
00:51:55.780 sell.
00:51:56.460 So, you
00:52:01.220 know, this
00:52:01.540 Inflation
00:52:02.000 Reduction
00:52:02.480 Act, and
00:52:03.540 my first
00:52:04.040 opinion of
00:52:04.620 it was,
00:52:05.460 well, there's
00:52:06.060 some stuff
00:52:06.500 in there I
00:52:06.960 probably don't
00:52:07.440 like, but
00:52:09.120 at least it
00:52:10.340 was a
00:52:10.720 full-throated
00:52:11.520 financial
00:52:13.080 endorsement of
00:52:14.140 nuclear energy.
00:52:15.960 And I said
00:52:16.480 to myself,
00:52:17.000 well, you
00:52:18.560 know, nothing's
00:52:19.260 perfect, but
00:52:20.500 that's so
00:52:21.000 important that
00:52:22.460 the bill
00:52:23.200 produced, you
00:52:24.480 know, major
00:52:24.840 funding to
00:52:25.640 encourage the
00:52:27.740 nuclear energy
00:52:28.480 business.
00:52:29.480 I thought,
00:52:29.960 well, that's,
00:52:30.900 you know, that's
00:52:31.840 so important
00:52:32.740 that maybe I
00:52:34.460 can live with
00:52:34.980 this other
00:52:35.360 stuff that I
00:52:36.260 don't like.
00:52:37.680 And then I
00:52:38.260 saw an
00:52:39.240 Alex Epstein
00:52:40.220 tweet thread,
00:52:41.920 the 12 myths
00:52:42.860 about the
00:52:43.420 terrible
00:52:43.760 Inflation
00:52:44.280 Reduction
00:52:44.760 Act.
00:52:47.260 And it
00:52:48.100 turns out
00:52:48.660 that it's
00:52:49.020 not going to
00:52:49.420 help nuclear
00:52:50.020 energy at
00:52:50.800 all.
00:52:51.040 It's a
00:52:52.680 trick.
00:52:53.840 The trick
00:52:54.500 is this.
00:52:55.640 It doesn't
00:52:56.260 matter how
00:52:56.740 much money
00:52:57.280 you throw
00:52:57.700 at nuclear,
00:52:58.680 they can't
00:52:59.340 get anything
00:52:59.720 approved.
00:53:01.180 Nothing's
00:53:01.680 ever been
00:53:02.060 approved by
00:53:02.760 the entities
00:53:03.300 that approve
00:53:03.840 nuclear power
00:53:05.840 plants today.
00:53:07.400 Let me say
00:53:07.840 that again.
00:53:08.760 The entity
00:53:09.320 that exists
00:53:10.400 today to
00:53:11.080 approve nuclear
00:53:12.400 power plants
00:53:13.080 has never
00:53:14.520 approved one
00:53:15.280 to completion.
00:53:17.520 Zero.
00:53:18.980 Zero.
00:53:20.340 So we
00:53:20.920 have a
00:53:21.220 system that
00:53:21.780 allows zero
00:53:22.880 things to
00:53:23.640 get through
00:53:24.040 it.
00:53:24.820 But if
00:53:25.240 they did,
00:53:26.540 well, how
00:53:27.000 about that
00:53:27.340 funding?
00:53:28.640 So do you
00:53:29.040 know what
00:53:29.280 the nuclear
00:53:30.040 funding was
00:53:30.820 about?
00:53:32.240 It was a 0.99
00:53:33.060 fucking trick 1.00
00:53:33.960 to get more 1.00
00:53:35.240 funding for
00:53:35.820 green.
00:53:36.800 Because the
00:53:37.340 money is in
00:53:37.800 one pot,
00:53:38.560 I think.
00:53:39.360 Not positive,
00:53:40.120 but I think
00:53:40.360 the money is
00:53:40.760 in one pot.
00:53:42.500 And if the
00:53:43.240 nuclear project
00:53:44.120 had a great
00:53:44.680 idea and they
00:53:45.320 had approval,
00:53:46.000 well, they
00:53:46.280 could get
00:53:46.580 some of it.
00:53:48.000 But they
00:53:48.560 can't,
00:53:49.460 because they'll
00:53:49.820 never get
00:53:50.140 approval.
00:53:50.920 And then
00:53:51.540 the battery
00:53:52.920 or the sun
00:53:54.600 or the wind
00:53:55.620 people say,
00:53:56.660 I got a
00:53:57.200 good idea,
00:53:57.740 here's my
00:53:58.100 project.
00:53:59.200 It's all
00:53:59.540 approved.
00:54:00.720 And they
00:54:01.120 get the
00:54:01.400 money.
00:54:02.840 So it
00:54:03.600 looks like
00:54:04.020 it's just 0.99
00:54:04.460 a fucking 1.00
00:54:04.880 trick. 0.99
00:54:07.460 Now,
00:54:09.020 I don't know,
00:54:11.160 how worse
00:54:11.640 could this
00:54:12.080 be?
00:54:13.500 How worse
00:54:14.320 could it be?
00:54:14.960 And by the
00:54:15.400 way, did I
00:54:16.580 mention it
00:54:17.280 there was a
00:54:17.620 tweet thread
00:54:18.100 about 12
00:54:19.520 myths?
00:54:21.280 I'm not even
00:54:21.800 going to read
00:54:22.160 you the other
00:54:22.620 11, but go
00:54:24.360 to Alex
00:54:25.520 Epstein, you
00:54:26.060 should follow
00:54:26.880 him anyway.
00:54:28.700 Just follow
00:54:29.300 him and you'll
00:54:29.960 see all the
00:54:30.640 good arguments
00:54:31.180 on energy.
00:54:32.960 So Alex
00:54:33.520 Epstein, just
00:54:34.460 Google him, or
00:54:35.500 just search him
00:54:36.400 on Twitter and
00:54:37.040 follow him, you'll
00:54:37.580 see the other
00:54:38.060 11.
00:54:39.080 But, oh
00:54:40.960 my God.
00:54:42.880 Oh my God.
00:54:44.780 Now, I'd
00:54:45.880 like to think
00:54:46.480 that the
00:54:46.880 Biden government
00:54:47.460 is also
00:54:48.180 working on
00:54:48.720 that approval
00:54:49.300 problem.
00:54:50.480 So if they
00:54:51.200 worked on the
00:54:51.860 funding and
00:54:52.540 they got that
00:54:53.060 first, but
00:54:54.540 then separately
00:54:55.160 they're trying to
00:54:55.820 remove the red
00:54:56.480 tape, that'd be
00:54:57.880 okay.
00:54:59.020 But I'd like to
00:54:59.820 hear that.
00:55:01.160 And I'm not
00:55:01.920 aware of any
00:55:02.440 effort to do
00:55:03.020 that, are you?
00:55:03.920 I feel like we
00:55:04.640 would have heard
00:55:05.140 about it if
00:55:06.640 anybody was
00:55:07.420 doing anything
00:55:07.860 like that.
00:55:08.400 So I don't
00:55:08.940 think it's
00:55:09.240 happening.
00:55:10.700 But maybe a
00:55:12.340 Republican would.
00:55:14.420 Don't you
00:55:14.820 think that a
00:55:15.300 Republican would
00:55:16.000 be more likely
00:55:16.660 to work on
00:55:17.800 the streamlining
00:55:18.560 of nuclear
00:55:19.340 energy plants?
00:55:20.320 I think so.
00:55:21.940 So there's
00:55:22.520 another single
00:55:23.680 topic reason
00:55:26.140 to vote.
00:55:30.540 So you
00:55:31.320 know how we
00:55:31.740 were all
00:55:32.060 puzzled by
00:55:32.860 Lindsey Graham
00:55:35.240 and pushing 0.99
00:55:35.940 for this
00:55:36.340 national abortion
00:55:37.100 law so close
00:55:38.040 to the
00:55:38.320 midterms.
00:55:38.900 It seems
00:55:39.180 like a
00:55:39.640 political
00:55:40.420 error.
00:55:41.980 But then
00:55:42.240 on CNN,
00:55:43.320 Chris
00:55:43.540 Eliza had 0.60
00:55:44.180 an opinion
00:55:45.640 that maybe
00:55:47.760 it was a
00:55:48.560 strategy.
00:55:50.320 And the
00:55:50.680 strategy goes
00:55:51.360 like this.
00:55:52.700 If the
00:55:53.400 Republicans say
00:55:54.260 nothing about
00:55:54.980 abortion and
00:55:56.080 just try to
00:55:56.560 minimize it,
00:55:57.880 the Republicans
00:55:58.460 just own that
00:55:59.280 argument, at
00:56:01.020 least for their
00:56:01.600 base.
00:56:02.200 They just own
00:56:02.680 that argument.
00:56:03.100 So rather
00:56:03.960 than letting
00:56:04.360 them just
00:56:04.740 own the
00:56:05.160 argument,
00:56:06.580 the hypothesis
00:56:09.300 is that what
00:56:10.600 Graham was
00:56:11.120 really trying
00:56:11.620 to do is
00:56:12.240 give Republicans
00:56:14.120 something to
00:56:15.380 argue positively
00:56:16.580 for.
00:56:18.020 In other
00:56:18.420 words,
00:56:19.580 his proposition,
00:56:23.380 I guess it's
00:56:24.020 no abortions
00:56:25.580 after 15
00:56:26.420 weeks or
00:56:26.960 something like
00:56:27.440 that.
00:56:27.640 And I
00:56:28.540 guess that
00:56:28.840 would make
00:56:29.200 it compatible
00:56:29.780 with much
00:56:30.760 of the rest
00:56:31.340 of the world
00:56:31.960 and it's a
00:56:33.100 less extreme
00:56:33.780 position than
00:56:34.460 it could be.
00:56:35.440 It's less
00:56:35.940 extreme.
00:56:37.080 So what it
00:56:38.060 would do is
00:56:38.500 give some
00:56:38.880 cover to
00:56:39.580 Republicans so
00:56:40.920 they could say,
00:56:41.540 well, I like
00:56:43.060 this less
00:56:43.560 extreme thing
00:56:44.260 that most of
00:56:45.240 the world
00:56:45.560 agrees with.
00:56:46.180 It's not
00:56:46.480 crazy.
00:56:47.540 It's not
00:56:47.880 extreme.
00:56:49.360 It's anything
00:56:50.040 but extreme.
00:56:50.960 It's similar
00:56:51.680 to Europe.
00:56:53.960 So I think
00:56:54.720 he's trying to
00:56:55.220 give them an
00:56:55.700 argument.
00:56:56.060 Here's why I
00:56:56.640 think,
00:56:57.640 it won't
00:56:58.160 work because
00:57:00.440 voters only
00:57:01.120 absorb 10
00:57:01.960 percent of
00:57:02.400 the nuance.
00:57:03.860 And all
00:57:04.240 they see is
00:57:04.780 abortion yes 0.79
00:57:05.440 or abortion
00:57:05.940 no.
00:57:07.100 How many
00:57:08.160 Democrats
00:57:08.880 are going
00:57:10.380 to say,
00:57:10.840 well,
00:57:12.160 he's sort
00:57:12.960 of against
00:57:14.660 abortion but
00:57:15.740 he's being
00:57:16.180 reasonable like
00:57:17.500 the European?
00:57:18.300 Nobody's going
00:57:18.840 to do that.
00:57:20.120 Nobody's going
00:57:20.680 to do that.
00:57:22.860 Nobody.
00:57:23.860 To me,
00:57:24.260 it looks like
00:57:24.640 a bad strategy
00:57:25.400 because it
00:57:27.080 ignores the
00:57:27.780 fact that
00:57:28.180 people don't
00:57:28.980 do nuance.
00:57:30.280 If people
00:57:31.040 did nuance,
00:57:32.560 maybe,
00:57:33.520 but they
00:57:33.860 don't.
00:57:37.000 All right.
00:57:38.800 Over in
00:57:39.480 Ukraine,
00:57:40.280 Zelensky was
00:57:41.000 in a car
00:57:41.440 crash that 1.00
00:57:42.940 was at
00:57:43.300 least bad
00:57:43.700 enough to
00:57:44.160 get him
00:57:44.520 some medical
00:57:45.200 attention,
00:57:45.800 but he
00:57:46.080 had no
00:57:46.440 serious
00:57:46.760 injuries.
00:57:47.120 But what
00:57:50.440 do you
00:57:50.600 think about
00:57:50.960 the fact
00:57:51.420 that the
00:57:52.720 leader of
00:57:53.240 this country
00:57:53.800 at war
00:57:54.300 was vulnerable
00:57:55.780 to a car
00:57:56.560 accident?
00:57:59.000 How does
00:57:59.580 he travel?
00:58:00.180 Is it just
00:58:00.580 him and two
00:58:01.800 cars?
00:58:03.100 How do you
00:58:03.540 even have a
00:58:04.040 car accident?
00:58:04.940 He's not
00:58:05.400 part of a
00:58:05.900 motorcade or
00:58:06.560 anything?
00:58:07.460 Or was he
00:58:07.840 the first one
00:58:08.720 in the
00:58:08.940 motorcade?
00:58:10.420 I don't
00:58:10.820 even know
00:58:11.020 how that
00:58:11.300 happens.
00:58:11.700 And I
00:58:13.460 don't know
00:58:13.720 how the
00:58:13.960 person driving
00:58:14.500 the car
00:58:14.840 didn't get
00:58:15.220 shot,
00:58:15.940 but I
00:58:16.780 think,
00:58:17.260 I don't
00:58:17.540 know.
00:58:18.480 So Putin
00:58:19.260 is using
00:58:20.060 his big
00:58:20.580 missiles to
00:58:21.220 take out 0.60
00:58:21.720 Ukrainian
00:58:22.280 infrastructure,
00:58:23.080 and he
00:58:23.200 took out
00:58:23.500 a dam
00:58:24.020 and flooded
00:58:25.400 I guess
00:58:26.040 Zelensky's
00:58:26.620 old hometown.
00:58:27.860 So a lot
00:58:28.300 of this is
00:58:28.660 getting personal.
00:58:29.860 That sounded
00:58:30.340 personal.
00:58:31.600 But what
00:58:32.160 do you make
00:58:32.520 of the fact
00:58:32.980 that Russia 0.72
00:58:34.040 seems to be
00:58:34.760 mounting nothing
00:58:35.600 like a defense
00:58:36.440 on the ground,
00:58:37.740 but they're
00:58:38.800 using their
00:58:39.340 expensive weapons 1.00
00:58:40.340 just to fuck 1.00
00:58:41.420 with Ukraine, 1.00
00:58:42.600 and none
00:58:43.160 of the stuff
00:58:43.620 they're doing
00:58:43.960 now looks
00:58:44.400 like it
00:58:44.720 could help
00:58:45.060 them win.
00:58:46.340 I don't
00:58:47.040 believe that
00:58:47.500 taking out
00:58:47.980 that dam
00:58:48.660 helps Russia
00:58:50.780 win militarily,
00:58:51.920 does it?
00:58:52.860 That looks
00:58:53.420 like just
00:58:53.920 collective
00:58:54.380 punishment.
00:58:55.440 Am I
00:58:55.780 wrong?
00:58:57.140 It looked
00:58:57.840 like collective
00:58:58.440 punishment.
00:58:59.560 It looked
00:59:00.140 like an
00:59:00.500 attack on
00:59:01.020 the civilians.
00:59:02.320 Now let
00:59:02.680 me ask you
00:59:03.120 this.
00:59:04.540 Is there
00:59:05.200 any scenario
00:59:05.980 in which
00:59:06.700 Russian
00:59:07.640 citizens
00:59:08.280 could occupy
00:59:09.440 Ukraine
00:59:10.000 now?
00:59:11.420 There's
00:59:13.700 no way.
00:59:15.340 Now?
00:59:16.820 There isn't
00:59:17.720 any way
00:59:18.360 that Russian 1.00
00:59:19.920 citizens
00:59:20.680 could be
00:59:21.780 resident in
00:59:23.320 Ukraine and
00:59:24.260 managing things
00:59:25.600 in control.
00:59:26.560 They would
00:59:26.940 all be 1.00
00:59:27.240 murdered. 1.00
00:59:29.460 There's
00:59:29.820 just no way.
00:59:31.200 Because Putin's
00:59:32.800 gone too far.
00:59:34.660 For a while
00:59:35.840 there was a
00:59:36.500 way.
00:59:36.760 If Russia 0.80
00:59:38.940 had immediately
00:59:39.800 taken over
00:59:40.560 Kiev and
00:59:41.360 gotten rid
00:59:42.460 of Zelensky
00:59:43.080 and immediately
00:59:44.260 started a
00:59:44.980 propaganda campaign
00:59:46.080 to propagandize
00:59:48.020 people and
00:59:48.500 say, hey,
00:59:48.840 we saved you
00:59:49.420 from the
00:59:49.980 Nazis that
00:59:50.720 nobody's seen.
00:59:52.500 I guess there
00:59:53.340 are Nazis
00:59:53.760 there.
00:59:54.560 But it
00:59:55.900 could have
00:59:56.140 worked because
00:59:57.320 he has so
00:59:57.700 much control
00:59:58.300 over what
00:59:58.900 people see.
01:00:00.080 But at
01:00:01.420 this point
01:00:02.020 there are
01:00:03.360 no Ukrainians 1.00
01:00:04.320 who don't
01:00:04.880 know that
01:00:05.800 Putin is 0.65
01:00:06.220 killing civilians 0.98
01:00:07.060 in Ukraine.
01:00:08.920 And of what?
01:00:09.920 Anger?
01:00:11.300 Not even a
01:00:12.200 military
01:00:12.620 purpose?
01:00:14.120 So, it's
01:00:18.200 over.
01:00:19.480 I think the
01:00:20.080 war is over
01:00:21.060 in the sense
01:00:21.720 that you can
01:00:22.300 now know
01:00:23.380 that Russia 0.72
01:00:23.820 won't win
01:00:24.360 it.
01:00:26.280 In the sense
01:00:27.160 that they're
01:00:27.500 not going to
01:00:27.980 Russia will 0.98
01:00:28.880 never, at
01:00:30.440 least in our
01:00:30.960 lifetime,
01:00:31.840 won't take
01:00:32.400 over the
01:00:33.040 whole of
01:00:33.620 Ukraine.
01:00:35.380 That opportunity
01:00:36.380 is completely
01:00:37.160 gone now.
01:00:38.400 The question
01:00:39.040 remains about
01:00:39.880 those contested
01:00:40.860 areas where
01:00:41.400 they're still
01:00:41.780 fighting.
01:00:42.960 But I'm
01:00:43.620 not hearing
01:00:44.080 that the
01:00:44.460 Russians are
01:00:44.920 putting up
01:00:45.420 a real
01:00:45.940 fight.
01:00:47.100 It looks
01:00:47.540 like the
01:00:47.880 Ukrainians are 1.00
01:00:48.660 just rolling
01:00:49.200 them up.
01:00:50.600 Now, maybe
01:00:51.280 they essentialized
01:00:52.300 their forces
01:00:52.860 in the most
01:00:54.480 critical place
01:00:55.340 so there's a
01:00:55.800 big battle
01:00:56.220 to come.
01:00:57.380 But at the
01:00:58.000 moment, the
01:00:58.460 Ukrainians are 1.00
01:00:59.120 just rolling
01:00:59.580 them up.
01:01:02.120 Scott, you
01:01:02.800 know Zelensky
01:01:03.480 killed his
01:01:04.040 own civilians.
01:01:05.040 When did
01:01:05.440 he do that?
01:01:07.220 When did
01:01:07.600 he kill his
01:01:08.080 own civilians? 0.98
01:01:09.080 Oh, you
01:01:09.280 mean before
01:01:09.720 the war,
01:01:10.120 right?
01:01:11.360 Because there
01:01:11.940 was military
01:01:13.160 action,
01:01:13.620 in the
01:01:13.920 disputed
01:01:14.440 zones?
01:01:15.700 There's a
01:01:16.340 difference
01:01:16.660 between
01:01:17.320 targeting
01:01:19.240 military,
01:01:20.420 targeting
01:01:20.760 civilians,
01:01:21.460 and having 1.00
01:01:21.940 them die 0.99
01:01:23.080 in the
01:01:23.380 fighting.
01:01:24.160 It's a
01:01:24.440 pretty big
01:01:24.780 difference.
01:01:28.880 When he
01:01:29.580 shelled
01:01:29.880 Donetsk?
01:01:31.000 Yeah.
01:01:35.300 Well, you
01:01:35.940 know, I'm
01:01:36.580 open to,
01:01:38.200 I'm definitely
01:01:39.280 open to hearing
01:01:40.220 that counter
01:01:40.880 argument.
01:01:42.000 And that
01:01:42.320 would matter.
01:01:43.440 That would
01:01:43.720 matter.
01:01:44.100 I'm not a
01:01:44.560 pro-Zelensky
01:01:45.240 guy, by the
01:01:46.200 way.
01:01:46.940 Did you
01:01:47.240 know that?
01:01:48.960 Zelensky,
01:01:50.960 there's a
01:01:52.060 weasel
01:01:53.080 vibe that I
01:01:53.840 get from
01:01:54.200 him that
01:01:55.700 is, I
01:01:56.280 can't turn
01:01:56.760 it off.
01:01:57.940 So I'm
01:01:58.400 not pro-Zelensky.
01:02:00.020 I will
01:02:00.420 simply note
01:02:01.000 when he does
01:02:01.500 something that's
01:02:02.020 effective for
01:02:03.220 his country.
01:02:04.500 I'm definitely
01:02:05.180 not pro-Zelensky.
01:02:06.060 There's
01:02:06.740 something that
01:02:08.420 bothers me a
01:02:09.140 lot about that
01:02:09.760 guy, and I
01:02:10.680 don't know
01:02:10.880 exactly what
01:02:11.560 it is.
01:02:14.740 So the
01:02:15.420 Biden
01:02:15.620 administration
01:02:16.240 hired a
01:02:18.680 racist for 0.96
01:02:19.460 the job
01:02:20.080 of, what's
01:02:23.180 his job
01:02:23.560 called?
01:02:25.700 Diversity
01:02:26.340 chief at
01:02:28.660 the Department
01:02:29.200 of Defense's
01:02:30.100 education wing.
01:02:30.980 So the
01:02:32.520 diversity
01:02:33.060 chief
01:02:33.680 apparently
01:02:35.700 is an
01:02:36.280 overt 0.65
01:02:36.640 racist.
01:02:39.400 And when I
01:02:40.220 say overt,
01:02:41.640 allow me to
01:02:42.360 read some of
01:02:42.960 the tweets.
01:02:44.680 These were
01:02:45.220 on the
01:02:45.740 Twitter feed.
01:02:50.080 Somebody's
01:02:50.600 calling me
01:02:50.940 anti-Semitic.
01:02:52.320 What the 0.98
01:02:52.960 hell is that 0.73
01:02:53.360 about? 0.94
01:02:54.260 Anti-Semitic.
01:02:56.360 Oh, because
01:02:56.780 of Zelensky?
01:02:58.580 Oh, because
01:02:59.480 Zelensky gives
01:03:00.460 me a weasel
01:03:01.020 vibe.
01:03:01.520 Is that
01:03:01.820 why?
01:03:04.280 Because if
01:03:04.940 you hadn't
01:03:05.260 mentioned that
01:03:05.800 he was
01:03:06.060 Jewish, I'd
01:03:06.780 forgotten
01:03:07.080 entirely about
01:03:07.740 that.
01:03:10.000 Oh, you're
01:03:11.540 joking?
01:03:12.000 Okay.
01:03:12.760 If you're
01:03:13.100 joking, I'll
01:03:13.720 accept it.
01:03:15.160 All right.
01:03:16.620 So here's
01:03:17.480 the woman who 0.89
01:03:18.720 was hired for
01:03:20.640 this diversity
01:03:21.460 chief job.
01:03:24.120 She was
01:03:24.720 complaining about
01:03:25.440 some meeting
01:03:27.260 she was in
01:03:27.780 where the
01:03:28.120 white people
01:03:28.600 were bothering 0.79
01:03:29.160 her.
01:03:29.800 And she
01:03:30.120 said in a
01:03:30.560 tweet,
01:03:30.860 quote,
01:03:31.760 this lady
01:03:32.360 actually had
01:03:33.160 the
01:03:33.360 caudacity,
01:03:35.540 the caudacity,
01:03:37.680 that's
01:03:38.020 Caucasian
01:03:39.240 audacity,
01:03:40.940 the caudacity,
01:03:42.740 this lady
01:03:43.680 actually had
01:03:44.260 the caudacity
01:03:45.080 to say that 0.96
01:03:45.820 black people 0.79
01:03:46.420 can be racist 0.99
01:03:47.520 too.
01:03:48.560 I had to
01:03:49.100 stop the
01:03:49.580 session and
01:03:50.120 give Karen 0.99
01:03:50.800 the business.
01:03:52.580 Karen.
01:03:54.180 A name
01:03:54.760 that is
01:03:55.340 only used
01:03:55.760 for white 0.87
01:03:56.780 women. 0.81
01:04:00.140 She said,
01:04:00.900 we're not
01:04:01.280 the majority,
01:04:02.020 we don't
01:04:02.260 have the
01:04:02.560 power,
01:04:02.920 she continued.
01:04:05.280 Blah,
01:04:05.720 blah,
01:04:05.860 blah.
01:04:06.500 On another
01:04:07.140 occasion,
01:04:07.700 Wing responded
01:04:08.220 to a user
01:04:08.820 who said,
01:04:09.540 I'm exhausted
01:04:10.440 by 99% of the
01:04:12.040 white men in
01:04:12.820 education and
01:04:14.180 95% of the
01:04:16.040 white women. 1.00
01:04:17.040 Where can I 0.99
01:04:17.780 get a break
01:04:18.460 from white 0.98
01:04:19.180 nonsense for a 0.99
01:04:20.140 while?
01:04:20.340 And Wing
01:04:22.300 responded to
01:04:22.940 that tweet
01:04:23.320 with,
01:04:23.680 if another
01:04:24.120 Karen tells
01:04:24.900 me about
01:04:25.420 her feelings,
01:04:26.320 I might
01:04:26.760 lose it.
01:04:29.380 So,
01:04:30.480 I guess she
01:04:31.280 took down
01:04:31.980 her Twitter
01:04:32.360 account.
01:04:35.140 Now,
01:04:36.600 apparently
01:04:37.800 we're not
01:04:38.300 supposed to
01:04:38.760 say that's
01:04:39.240 racist because 0.99
01:04:40.960 she's black. 1.00
01:04:43.980 That's just 1.00
01:04:44.740 racist.
01:04:47.140 That's not
01:04:47.900 anything else.
01:04:49.640 There's just
01:04:50.300 a racist
01:04:50.780 person who
01:04:52.380 is tweeting
01:04:52.940 racist things
01:04:53.680 in public
01:04:54.200 and was put
01:04:56.540 in charge
01:04:57.080 of thwarting
01:04:59.680 racism.
01:05:04.940 Yeah.
01:05:06.460 All right.
01:05:13.580 It's very
01:05:14.400 convenient that 0.97
01:05:15.220 black people 0.99
01:05:15.760 can't be 0.99
01:05:16.260 racist, 0.77
01:05:16.900 isn't it?
01:05:17.680 How convenient?
01:05:18.580 Only you
01:05:20.720 can if
01:05:21.460 you're not 0.96
01:05:21.800 black.
01:05:23.920 All right. 0.87
01:05:25.880 So,
01:05:26.260 more newspapers
01:05:26.820 are canceling
01:05:28.380 me.
01:05:29.160 I'm getting
01:05:29.880 more and more
01:05:30.680 news of being
01:05:31.420 canceled.
01:05:33.200 There's something
01:05:33.960 that I forgot
01:05:34.740 about when I
01:05:36.560 told you how
01:05:37.040 newspapers are
01:05:37.840 really good about
01:05:38.500 not canceling
01:05:39.260 people.
01:05:39.960 Remember I
01:05:40.400 told you that?
01:05:41.960 And I said,
01:05:43.140 well, you know,
01:05:44.340 newspapers are the
01:05:45.180 one place where
01:05:46.020 you can have
01:05:46.440 freedom of speech
01:05:47.260 still because
01:05:49.420 the professional
01:05:51.020 news people
01:05:51.840 always had
01:05:53.420 been just
01:05:54.980 wildly free
01:05:56.160 speech,
01:05:57.220 as they should
01:05:58.080 be.
01:05:58.740 But here's what
01:05:59.380 I forgot.
01:06:00.000 Do you know
01:06:00.300 who owns most
01:06:01.620 newspapers?
01:06:05.300 Billionaires,
01:06:06.660 hedge funds.
01:06:08.360 The people
01:06:09.080 who own
01:06:09.860 newspapers also
01:06:11.340 own businesses
01:06:12.200 for which
01:06:13.680 ESG would 0.99
01:06:14.900 be, you
01:06:15.860 know,
01:06:15.980 important.
01:06:17.260 So,
01:06:18.120 I didn't
01:06:19.420 realize that I
01:06:20.100 was directly
01:06:20.700 attacking the
01:06:21.480 owners of the
01:06:22.020 newspapers.
01:06:23.840 So,
01:06:24.860 not such a big
01:06:25.920 surprise that I'm
01:06:26.560 getting canceled.
01:06:29.080 Who would be
01:06:29.940 calling me at
01:06:31.680 this time of
01:06:32.200 day?
01:06:33.940 Hello?
01:06:37.500 What?
01:06:38.520 Not talking?
01:06:39.180 Not talking?
01:06:39.220 I guess not.
01:06:44.280 I get a lot of
01:06:45.140 phone calls from
01:06:45.700 people who don't
01:06:46.180 say anything when
01:06:46.860 I answer.
01:06:52.100 Ovevec
01:06:52.500 Remsway's new
01:06:53.460 fund, is that an
01:06:54.120 anti-ESG fund?
01:07:02.220 Not an
01:07:02.780 unexpected outcome.
01:07:03.640 No.
01:07:05.320 So,
01:07:06.740 today,
01:07:08.100 a lot of
01:07:08.740 newspapers are
01:07:09.660 canceling,
01:07:10.880 well,
01:07:11.120 I don't know how
01:07:11.420 many,
01:07:11.880 but a lot of
01:07:12.380 newspapers are not
01:07:13.180 running Dilbert this
01:07:14.120 week because of the
01:07:15.020 topic.
01:07:16.140 But some of them
01:07:17.260 will cancel.
01:07:19.420 So,
01:07:20.480 if you're
01:07:21.140 wondering,
01:07:22.100 and by the way,
01:07:22.700 I don't have any
01:07:24.820 way to monetize
01:07:25.880 ESG,
01:07:27.500 I suppose,
01:07:28.280 if more people
01:07:29.120 read Dilbert,
01:07:29.780 I suppose,
01:07:30.660 indirectly.
01:07:31.100 But I'm just
01:07:33.000 losing money,
01:07:34.700 right?
01:07:35.340 By advocating
01:07:37.020 on this topic
01:07:38.240 at your request,
01:07:41.020 it just costs me
01:07:42.020 money.
01:07:42.360 You know that,
01:07:42.860 right?
01:07:43.660 And I say that
01:07:44.540 because if I were
01:07:46.440 making money from
01:07:47.260 it, you shouldn't
01:07:47.820 trust me,
01:07:48.740 or anybody else.
01:07:50.160 If somebody's
01:07:50.680 making money from
01:07:51.560 something,
01:07:51.900 don't trust anything,
01:07:52.860 they say.
01:07:53.900 That's just a
01:07:54.560 general rule.
01:07:55.160 Yeah.
01:07:59.140 Now,
01:07:59.440 this is one
01:08:01.000 where,
01:08:02.480 sort of the
01:08:03.140 Spider-Man problem
01:08:03.980 I told you.
01:08:05.380 Given that
01:08:06.080 Dilbert is
01:08:06.740 uniquely situated
01:08:07.800 to make a
01:08:08.560 statement about
01:08:09.200 ESG,
01:08:09.900 I felt like I
01:08:10.480 had to.
01:08:11.940 But it wasn't
01:08:12.740 good for me.
01:08:15.800 Yeah.
01:08:19.700 And now I'd
01:08:20.540 like to make
01:08:20.940 this Ray Epps
01:08:21.720 thing a thing.
01:08:23.420 And again,
01:08:23.900 it's not so much
01:08:24.440 about Ray Epps,
01:08:25.080 it's a larger
01:08:25.600 question that
01:08:26.320 Thomas Massey
01:08:27.260 asked.
01:08:28.360 You know,
01:08:28.580 can you tell us
01:08:29.340 what was your
01:08:29.960 involvement?
01:08:30.500 If they can't
01:08:31.040 tell us,
01:08:31.920 you have to let
01:08:32.580 all of the
01:08:33.360 January 6th
01:08:35.040 people go.
01:08:35.840 And by the
01:08:36.260 way,
01:08:36.460 that's the way
01:08:36.900 that Trump
01:08:38.000 could play it.
01:08:39.060 How about
01:08:39.380 this?
01:08:40.620 Trump could
01:08:41.100 say,
01:08:41.700 if we don't
01:08:42.620 have transparency
01:08:43.600 about the
01:08:44.360 FBI's involvement,
01:08:45.740 I'm going to
01:08:46.420 pardon everybody.
01:08:50.020 How about
01:08:50.640 that?
01:08:51.360 Because if
01:08:52.040 you say,
01:08:52.780 if we don't
01:08:53.180 have transparency
01:08:53.900 from the
01:08:54.480 FBI,
01:08:55.480 then even
01:08:56.240 the left
01:08:56.720 has a real
01:08:57.780 trouble
01:08:58.140 complaining.
01:08:59.260 If you say,
01:09:00.140 I'm just going
01:09:00.560 to pardon them
01:09:01.260 because I think
01:09:02.020 justice was not
01:09:02.900 done,
01:09:03.760 then it looks
01:09:04.380 like you're
01:09:04.760 pardoning criminals
01:09:05.620 to the left.
01:09:07.860 But if you say,
01:09:08.760 this doesn't have
01:09:09.280 anything to do
01:09:09.840 with their crimes
01:09:10.480 or alleged
01:09:11.600 crimes,
01:09:12.940 the pardon has
01:09:13.880 nothing to do
01:09:14.480 with their
01:09:14.760 alleged crimes.
01:09:16.120 It has to do
01:09:16.680 with the fact
01:09:17.180 that if the
01:09:17.780 government won't
01:09:18.620 be transparent,
01:09:19.940 then we can't
01:09:21.920 assume that
01:09:22.400 justice was done.
01:09:23.900 And if you
01:09:24.640 have a
01:09:24.860 situation where
01:09:25.700 justice can't
01:09:26.440 be done,
01:09:27.500 I'm going to
01:09:28.000 deal with it.
01:09:29.480 I'm going to
01:09:29.900 deal with it.
01:09:31.180 So I wouldn't
01:09:31.820 be involved if
01:09:32.980 justice could
01:09:33.660 handle it,
01:09:34.120 but justice
01:09:34.540 can't be done
01:09:35.180 because the
01:09:35.700 FBI won't
01:09:36.480 be transparent.
01:09:39.060 And if our
01:09:39.660 justice system
01:09:40.380 can't handle it,
01:09:41.180 I'm not going to
01:09:41.640 let them put 0.93
01:09:43.080 people in jail.
01:09:44.440 The justice
01:09:45.200 system has a
01:09:46.320 hole.
01:09:47.320 That hole is
01:09:48.180 it doesn't know
01:09:48.720 what's happening
01:09:49.340 with the FBI
01:09:50.160 because the FBI
01:09:50.840 is not talking.
01:09:51.520 As long as
01:09:52.880 that hole's
01:09:53.340 there, nobody
01:09:54.640 goes to jail
01:09:55.280 for those crimes,
01:09:56.660 even if they
01:09:57.180 did bad things.
01:09:58.460 Even if they
01:09:58.920 did bad things.
01:10:06.820 Yes, I believe
01:10:07.660 Ted Cruz asked
01:10:08.940 the same question
01:10:10.640 and also got
01:10:12.200 stonewalled by
01:10:12.920 the FBI.
01:10:13.760 That's correct.
01:10:14.320 Correct.
01:10:14.420 The last item
01:10:25.420 in your laundry
01:10:26.100 list lost me.
01:10:27.640 What was that?
01:10:29.720 All right.
01:10:34.380 I got a copy
01:10:36.180 of Jared Kushner's
01:10:38.760 new book.
01:10:39.340 I'm going to
01:10:42.240 look through
01:10:42.760 that and
01:10:43.340 give you some
01:10:45.420 opinion on
01:10:46.700 that.
01:10:47.520 You know,
01:10:47.820 that's actually
01:10:48.500 the book I'm
01:10:49.360 most interested
01:10:50.060 in.
01:10:50.440 A lot of
01:10:50.820 these alleged
01:10:52.340 behind-the-scenes
01:10:53.420 White House
01:10:54.540 books, you
01:10:55.800 always wonder
01:10:56.320 how much
01:10:56.960 access do
01:10:57.620 they really
01:10:58.060 have?
01:10:59.660 Right?
01:11:00.740 But Jared
01:11:02.380 Kushner, he
01:11:03.500 actually knows
01:11:05.140 exactly what
01:11:05.980 was happening
01:11:06.480 everywhere.
01:11:07.540 He's probably
01:11:08.280 the only one.
01:11:09.340 He probably
01:11:10.240 knows more
01:11:10.820 than the
01:11:11.260 president knows
01:11:11.980 about, you
01:11:13.200 know, the
01:11:13.660 machinery of
01:11:14.480 what was
01:11:14.780 happening at
01:11:15.280 the time.
01:11:15.940 Because the
01:11:16.540 president kind
01:11:17.140 of floats
01:11:17.480 above it.
01:11:18.720 But he
01:11:19.180 probably knows
01:11:20.100 more than
01:11:20.800 anybody knows
01:11:22.220 about that
01:11:22.720 period of
01:11:23.220 time.
01:11:23.540 So I have
01:11:24.100 the most
01:11:24.460 interest in
01:11:25.160 seeing what
01:11:25.900 he said.
01:11:29.060 Watch his
01:11:29.660 interview with
01:11:30.120 Dave Rubin.
01:11:31.580 Oh, I will.
01:11:33.880 Have you
01:11:34.320 seen Navarro's
01:11:35.320 comments on
01:11:35.960 Kushner?
01:11:36.840 I don't
01:11:37.360 remember seeing
01:11:37.880 them.
01:11:39.340 What about
01:11:42.540 Stephen Miller?
01:11:45.300 Well, he
01:11:45.940 definitely, Stephen
01:11:47.440 Miller was in
01:11:48.040 the mix, but I
01:11:48.980 don't know.
01:11:50.080 But I think he
01:11:51.680 was in fewer
01:11:52.320 topics.
01:11:57.740 Yeah.
01:11:58.060 the gorilla
01:12:01.520 channel.
01:12:02.980 Oh, yeah, I
01:12:04.100 didn't talk about
01:12:04.740 the immigrant
01:12:05.380 buses going to
01:12:06.400 Martha's Vineyard.
01:12:08.600 Let me say
01:12:09.660 that from a
01:12:10.460 persuasion
01:12:11.040 standpoint, the
01:12:12.880 Republican
01:12:13.420 governors shipping
01:12:14.660 those people to
01:12:17.000 the high-end
01:12:17.620 places, it's
01:12:19.780 really good.
01:12:21.160 It's really good
01:12:22.100 persuasion.
01:12:23.180 But it's funny
01:12:23.900 because there are
01:12:24.400 so few of them.
01:12:25.140 You know, the
01:12:26.260 total number of
01:12:27.140 people who are
01:12:27.500 bussed is just
01:12:28.140 like nothing.
01:12:29.100 And they're still
01:12:29.740 getting upset about
01:12:30.600 having to share
01:12:33.580 1% of the
01:12:34.320 pain.
01:12:35.260 In fact, that's
01:12:36.420 the way I would
01:12:37.040 express it if I
01:12:38.020 were a Republican.
01:12:39.140 I'd say they're
01:12:39.880 mad because we
01:12:40.640 made them share
01:12:41.260 1% of the pain.
01:12:43.400 It's probably
01:12:44.380 less than 1%.
01:12:45.600 But if you're
01:12:47.500 not willing to
01:12:48.040 share 1% of
01:12:48.840 the pain, then
01:12:50.840 you know what's
01:12:51.340 really happening
01:12:51.880 here.
01:12:53.120 We can be
01:12:53.900 honest.
01:12:54.940 Once we've
01:12:55.740 squeezed them
01:12:56.500 to scream, then
01:12:58.520 you can finally
01:12:59.100 get some
01:12:59.480 transparency about
01:13:00.360 what's going
01:13:00.780 on.
01:13:01.680 Everybody's in
01:13:02.220 favor of
01:13:02.680 somebody else
01:13:03.180 paying the
01:13:03.560 price.
01:13:05.080 Everybody's
01:13:05.520 happy with
01:13:05.980 the bill if
01:13:06.420 somebody else
01:13:06.860 pays it.
01:13:08.000 But as soon
01:13:08.720 as they have
01:13:09.020 to pay 1%
01:13:09.780 of the bill,
01:13:10.400 they're screaming
01:13:10.940 like, ah,
01:13:11.940 ah, no,
01:13:13.340 don't give me
01:13:13.880 1% of the
01:13:14.600 bill.
01:13:16.280 Yeah, and
01:13:16.920 the Martha's
01:13:17.420 Vineyard thing
01:13:17.880 was just sort
01:13:18.380 of perfect
01:13:18.840 persuasion.
01:13:20.780 Now, let me
01:13:22.400 ask you this.
01:13:24.560 Do you think
01:13:25.240 somebody's advising
01:13:26.240 these governors?
01:13:28.620 Or did the
01:13:29.860 idea just sort
01:13:30.500 of bubble up
01:13:31.240 and maybe
01:13:32.380 more than one
01:13:33.320 person had the
01:13:33.880 idea?
01:13:35.600 Or do you
01:13:36.240 think that
01:13:36.560 there's a
01:13:36.940 master persuader
01:13:37.920 somewhere in
01:13:39.400 the mix
01:13:39.800 advising these
01:13:40.680 southern governors?
01:13:42.940 What do you
01:13:43.340 think?
01:13:45.600 Could it be
01:13:46.400 Trump?
01:13:46.920 Eh, maybe.
01:13:50.340 Here's what I
01:13:51.220 think.
01:13:53.000 This play is
01:13:54.240 smarter than
01:13:55.200 governor.
01:13:56.580 That's what I
01:13:57.000 think.
01:13:57.860 As smart as
01:13:58.660 DeSantis is,
01:14:00.280 as smart as
01:14:01.000 Abbott is,
01:14:01.840 taking nothing
01:14:02.480 away from their
01:14:03.300 intelligence.
01:14:04.940 This is a
01:14:06.400 grade point
01:14:07.080 higher.
01:14:07.420 It looks like
01:14:10.900 something they
01:14:11.560 got convinced
01:14:13.100 to do and
01:14:14.300 would be happy
01:14:15.020 they did it
01:14:15.500 because it's
01:14:15.800 working.
01:14:17.780 I feel like
01:14:18.920 there's a
01:14:23.280 very clever
01:14:24.160 advisor somewhere
01:14:25.220 in the mix.
01:14:27.300 A very clever
01:14:28.180 advisor.
01:14:30.660 I guess we'll
01:14:31.400 never know who.
01:14:32.480 No, I'm not
01:14:33.800 cleverly telling
01:14:35.320 you it's me.
01:14:35.900 I had nothing
01:14:36.400 to do with it.
01:14:37.900 It wasn't my
01:14:38.860 idea at all.
01:14:39.720 I had zero,
01:14:41.760 I had nothing
01:14:42.440 to do with it.
01:14:43.640 I appreciate it
01:14:44.440 though.
01:14:44.760 I appreciate
01:14:45.260 that it was a
01:14:46.300 good play,
01:14:47.160 but it wasn't
01:14:48.080 mine.
01:14:51.680 Cernovich has
01:14:52.380 special counsel.
01:14:53.320 Well, I think,
01:14:54.600 you know,
01:14:55.120 as much as I
01:14:56.120 love Cernovich,
01:14:58.340 I think you
01:14:59.540 need, you
01:15:00.800 know, a
01:15:01.300 working lawyer
01:15:02.000 who does that
01:15:02.780 stuff.
01:15:03.220 right?
01:15:06.560 You don't
01:15:07.160 need somebody
01:15:07.580 who just has
01:15:08.420 that background,
01:15:09.480 you know,
01:15:09.660 the education.
01:15:10.460 You need
01:15:10.700 somebody who
01:15:11.060 does that
01:15:11.420 stuff.
01:15:14.560 What about
01:15:15.220 Pompeo?
01:15:18.500 All right.
01:15:19.000 All right.
01:15:19.040 I believe we're
01:15:29.220 done here.
01:15:30.880 Have we
01:15:31.520 covered everything
01:15:32.160 that's worth
01:15:32.760 covering with
01:15:33.560 the best
01:15:34.000 live stream
01:15:34.800 that ever
01:15:36.060 there was?
01:15:37.340 Yeah, the
01:15:37.620 train strike
01:15:38.320 looks like they
01:15:38.920 worked that
01:15:39.360 out.
01:15:39.640 Yeah.
01:15:45.540 Well, let
01:15:47.920 me give
01:15:48.240 you a 0.57
01:15:48.760 Yeah, I
01:15:53.460 better not.
01:15:54.720 Changed my
01:15:55.340 mind.
01:15:59.020 All right.
01:15:59.740 Yeah, so this
01:16:00.140 was 10 out of
01:16:00.640 10.
01:16:01.520 Wasn't this the
01:16:02.280 best live stream
01:16:02.880 you've ever seen?
01:16:04.240 Probably the
01:16:04.960 most fun you've
01:16:05.660 ever had in your
01:16:06.100 whole life.
01:16:07.240 Yeah, totally.
01:16:09.640 Oh, yeah.
01:16:15.080 Some of the
01:16:15.460 migrants were 0.99
01:16:16.200 bused to
01:16:17.000 VP Harris's
01:16:18.980 home.
01:16:23.880 No, I
01:16:24.480 haven't watched
01:16:25.160 Zelensky's movie
01:16:26.700 Servant of the
01:16:27.440 People.
01:16:28.180 Apparently, he
01:16:28.700 made a movie
01:16:29.220 that matched
01:16:30.800 his reality.
01:16:34.640 Yes, James
01:16:35.560 was the best
01:16:36.140 viewer today.
01:16:37.260 Over on
01:16:37.820 YouTube, James
01:16:39.540 is claiming
01:16:40.140 that he was
01:16:40.760 the best
01:16:41.360 viewer today.
01:16:43.140 I think you
01:16:44.000 were.
01:16:44.980 I've been
01:16:45.420 watching all
01:16:45.940 of you and
01:16:46.400 your viewing
01:16:47.840 abilities were
01:16:48.900 excellent.
01:16:50.680 Way above
01:16:51.260 average.
01:16:52.460 A lot of
01:16:52.820 people were
01:16:53.220 viewing it
01:16:53.860 sort of
01:16:55.460 sloppily.
01:16:56.720 But you,
01:16:57.900 you, James,
01:16:59.200 you're like the
01:17:00.160 viewer that
01:17:00.900 viewers want
01:17:01.660 to be.
01:17:02.760 You're the
01:17:03.680 viewer that
01:17:04.380 women want 1.00
01:17:05.340 to be with
01:17:05.920 and men
01:17:06.880 want to be.
01:17:07.440 That's
01:17:08.780 who you
01:17:09.020 are.
01:17:09.800 Good for
01:17:10.120 you.
01:17:11.420 All right.
01:17:12.440 That's all for
01:17:12.900 now.
01:17:13.300 I will talk to
01:17:13.740 you tomorrow.
01:17:14.940 You're all
01:17:15.240 awesome.
01:17:16.660 See you then.
01:17:17.160 I will talk to you