Episode 1906 Scott Adams: Ye Gets Further Cancelled, Rob Reiner Is Funny, GDP Is Strong, And More
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1 hour and 20 minutes
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136.63431
Summary
In this episode, I talk about how I stopped taking meds, and how it changed my life, and why you should too. I also talk a little bit about my recent battle with depression, and what I learned along the way.
Transcript
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Some of you have been, and I appreciate it, very concerned about me
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because I've said that I was in great pain every day,
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muscle aches and could barely walk up the stairs.
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And I said to you that if this lasted, I was going to check out,
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meaning I didn't want to live in that much pain.
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But I also told you, and this is a pretty good advice,
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I would always give myself a year to work it out, right,
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no matter how bad it was, no matter how much pain I was in.
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I could make it last a year, you know, just to see if I could solve it.
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I think it was Matthew McConaughey telling a story about his father giving him advice.
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And it was some of the best advice I've ever seen in my life.
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And I've actually tried to incorporate it, and it's immediately useful.
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And it's a, I guess you could call it a reframe.
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You would be amazed how often that little bit of advice changes everything.
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So normally when I go to the gym, I lift until, you know, sometimes I'm counting.
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And then I said to myself, when I normally would stop, I'd say, all right, could you do
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So for the last several months, I've been in pretty much, you know, discomfort.
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And it's gotten worse to the point where I have to admit, and I don't want to be banned
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from YouTube for saying things that would be controversial.
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So I'm going to try to say it as medically as I can.
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I was overwhelmed with suicidal thoughts for the last several weeks.
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Honestly, I didn't go a minute without thinking about it.
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Now, I was never close, as in I never made a plan, you know, never thought I'll put together
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It's just that I couldn't get it out of my mind, because my life was not up to the quality
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of life that would have made any sense to continue, right?
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Now, there's definitely an irrational ending of your life, but there's also a rational time
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Let's say if you had Lou Gehrig's and you were in pain, and you only had a month to live anyway.
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There are rational reasons to put yourself out of pain.
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So I felt depression, and I felt pain, and I could barely walk up the stairs.
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Whatever was bothering me yesterday, you can tell it went away, right?
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Do you think that I solved my problem by taking a med?
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Do you think I took some pharmaceuticals and solved my problem in one day?
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Like my brain doesn't even know why I would even have those thoughts.
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And that was when, and that was from the day before I was using the elevator in my own house.
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Because the stairs were too much for a challenge.
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Now, this was on my list if you were wondering how I solved it.
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So once it was obvious, once it was really obvious that the meds were the problem, I googled it.
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One kind, a study showed those people kill themselves more often than they should.
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There is literally a study saying that people who take drugs in this class, I'm not going to tell you the specific one.
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I'm only going to tell you the class because I don't want to get sued.
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It's in a class of beta blocking blood pressure meds.
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But I have the kind where there's a 2019 study saying it'll make you suicidal.
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Everything you saw of my complete personality change over the last few weeks, you all saw it, right?
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If you watch me every day, you can't miss it, can you?
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Now it's still not simple because I have to get my blood pressure under control one way or another.
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Now keep in mind that the 2019 trial, or study I guess,
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the 2019 study did not say that it was, you know, a randomized controlled trial and confirmative.
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It was just saying people need to look into this.
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I can only confirm that after every single day of feeling terrible,
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a lot of people reached out to me because they could see that I was in trouble, which I was.
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Now, I knew I was in trouble, too, but here's the messed up part.
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When you're the one who's having the mental trouble, you can't help yourself.
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So I had to actually, like, get outside of my body and actually become, like, a robot to narrow it down.
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So I think I showed you I started with, you know, all the possible things that could be, wrote them on my whiteboard.
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And I just went to, you know, pure analytical Scott, because analytical Scott can operate independent from, you know, emotional, angry Scott.
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So for a while, I just allowed myself to be like an actor.
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So I was rational enough to narrow down the things.
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But I'll tell you, the things I couldn't do, I couldn't do things like just make a doctor appointment that I knew I needed to make.
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Because the, I guess, the dopamine was gone or something.
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So the thought and the action were disconnected for a long time.
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Today, if I wanted to make a doctor appointment, I would just make a doctor appointment.
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I only mention this because I think it's generalizable.
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If you're worried about your mood, check your meds.
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There's a 60-minute segment, I guess, last night, in which the Dominion, the makers of election products,
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they're going ahead with their lawsuit against Fox News.
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I mean, it sounds like they have a bit of a case.
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But I guess they've been getting death threats and everything else.
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But you can see now that the entire news business has gotten into the business of trying to destroy the candidate on the other side.
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And do you think that 60 Minutes would have done this story if not for how it would influence the political world?
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It feels like a story you do because you want to stop Trump from being president again, doesn't it?
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But the timing of it, is this not a two-year-old story?
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But they waited until you're pretty close to the midterms to give it a little extra juice.
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So to me, this looks like, well, let me put this in a different and maybe more productive way.
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This looks like something that CNN would not do under their current leadership.
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But Anderson Cooper and his other job at 60 Minutes, CBS did it.
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Now, would you agree that this is something that CNN would have done in their past formation,
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but maybe they would be less inclined to do today?
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I like to give them credit for what seems to be, from the outside, a genuine turn toward being useful.
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Now, they're doing it for business reasons and their own reasons.
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But I feel like there's something that looks successful about that.
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Now, this is when you've trapped somebody in their argument and they say, blah, blah, blah,
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and then that's your tell, that there's no point in discussing it any further.
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When you see how cognitive dissonance works, you can spot it in the wild,
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where before you just thought there was something unexplained,
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like you didn't understand why somebody was acting the way they were.
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But it is so useful for explaining why people are acting irrationally.
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I'll give you this specific example from earlier today.
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Somebody tweeted something with an analogy in it.
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And the analogy was comparing evolution, you know, the biological evolution,
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to people working in a project which they run as a self-organizing project.
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In other words, you know, there's some commonality between those.
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So I was asked to comment on this, and I pointed out that all I saw was a bad analogy.
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Because the point was being made about comparing these two things,
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biological evolution and people in, let's say, a workplace or an organization
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using a self-organizing kind of a process or something.
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And basically, as soon as I see an analogy, I bow out.
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Now, the comment from the tweeter, whose name isn't important for this purpose,
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but he was also doing it in the context of an analogy.
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I said, you said evolution is like this process in the organization.
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Now, shouldn't that be the end of the conversation?
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And then I used their tweet from like one tweet ago,
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Now, what are the appropriate responses to that?
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The non-cognitive dissonance responses would be,
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oh, I can see why you thought that was an analogy,
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Or maybe you would say, oh, yes, that was an analogy,
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but I'm only trying to make one narrow point about it.
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You could imagine all kinds of rational things you could say in response.
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But instead, I was accused of not being able to admit when I'm wrong.
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So I was accused of not being able to admit when I'm wrong.
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but I've only recently realized that I only get it when I'm definitely right.
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Because people will argue their point if they have a point.
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If somebody has a good argument, they'll always use it.
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But if they go to, you don't admit when you're wrong,
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that are supposed to be coming out for the United States
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but apparently the gross domestic product looks pretty strong.
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which in this environment would be surprisingly good.
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lying about how much he's bringing down the deficit.
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But it's moving in the right direction, isn't it?
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You could imagine something would crumble the system.
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See if this sounds like what it sounds like to me.
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Every time they say the recession is further in our future,
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Now, I told you I'm going to give you the optimistic view today, right?
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Now, remember, the biggest part of the economy,
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So if you know that the high employment numbers,
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you've got the Adams Law of Slow-Moving Disasters,
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It's only the surprises that catch us off guard.
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But when we see it coming from a long ways away,
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I feel like we must have had enough warning in advance
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Arguably, it created a different kind of disaster
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but scores in the South and non-coastal West went down.
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I have the answer for you, but I'll give you the answer
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said that California dropped its SAT requirements
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So you can't compare California to anything else.
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And California would skew the whole West Coast.
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because half of the people who would have scored poorly
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just didn't take them because they didn't need to
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because they could get into college without them.
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So it might be bad for the standards of the colleges,
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And there's a nationwide plunge in math and reading.
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What is the one obstacle that the Republicans have
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You know, if you run just a mainstream Republican
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But I don't think Republicans can make that happen.
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because he created a right and wrong way to be,
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do believe Hitler was kind of close to that, wasn't he? Like, didn't he say, you know,
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this group is being too successful, so we have to stop them? But that's not what Kanye
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says. Did you see Kanye say anything about stopping them? I didn't see it. Didn't see
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it at all. Now, he did insult Jared Kushner, but that sounded personal. He painted Jews
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as immoral, somebody says. I didn't see it. Give me like a quote that you think, and I'm
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not denying it, I'm just not aware of it. Give me a quote that you think was Kanye calling
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them immoral, because what I heard is that he said he was Jewish too. So that sounds like
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the opposite of calling somebody immoral. If he was identifying with a group, now, I
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don't buy that identification, but, you know, it was part of his communication. Now, he's
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not, I don't think he's technically Jewish. He was saying that black people are Jewish,
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there's some argument for that that I don't understand. All right. Are lopsided contracts
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immoral? I don't know. Are they? Do you think Ye signed a lopsided contract? Now, I understand
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I understand that he was unhappy with some of his partners about things he thought he
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was going to get. Black Hebrew Israelites? Yeah. I'm not, I'm not that interested. The
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answer liquid swan is no. In case you're interested, there's a long delay between when my ex-wife
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and I decided that things were done and when you heard about it. So there was a lot of time
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in between there. All right. The lopsided contract. Don't you think Ye thinks that he would like
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to be in a position to have lopsided contracts? Do you think that if Ye could have any kind of
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contract he wanted, he would sign one that's really fair to everybody or one that was lopsided
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in his favor? As long as everybody won. Like, I don't think he would punish somebody with a bad
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contract. But I think as long as they won and he won more, you don't think he'd sign that contract?
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I think he would. And I think he would compliment anybody who could get away with it. Because it
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would just be business. Yeah. Anyway, it does look like the cancellation is going to work. Now,
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the only way I imagine he could get out of it would be if he has enough resources that he can start his
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own chain of retail stores, which I think is a possibility. Like, he might just start his own
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chain or something or make parlor work or something. But he is in trouble. I don't think he anticipated
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this much trouble. I mentioned before that Ye was thinking of building a mini city that's sort of
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designed after his own aesthetic and maybe a city about all things he likes or whatever.
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And I would like to add this. I'm going to a meeting tonight in my little city where they're
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talking about turning one of the roads into part bicycles, part roads. If I were to design a mini
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city, here's how I would start. I would put the schools in one place, in the center, so that the
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school system is equal distance from everybody. And that's the most important thing. And then I
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would have a hub and spoke bicycle and electric conveyance, you know, like scooters and stuff,
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only walking and bikes. There would be a hub and spoke that would all go to the school in the center.
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So that if you were on a bicycle and you wanted to get from anywhere to anywhere else,
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you could go to the center and then that would connect you to all the other paths to wherever you want
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to go. So you would build it first as a bicycle-friendly city because e-bikes and e-conveyances
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will be the thing and they will replace cars. There's no doubt about it. If you've had an e-bike
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experience, you know these are going to be everywhere. There's no doubt about it. As soon as you touch
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one, you're like, okay, this is going to be everywhere. There's no doubt about it. Sort of like the first
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time you held a smartphone, the first time you got a smartphone, did you ever think to yourself,
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well, this will go backwards to the flip phone? Even though it barely worked, you knew that was the
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future, right? When you held it in your hand, there was no doubt. And I've told this story about the first
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time I saw the internet when it had, there were two websites in total that were public. That's it.
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The whole internet was two websites when I first saw it. And I knew it was going to be huge. You
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could just tell. And everybody who saw it knew the moment they saw it, this is going to be gigantic.
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So e-bikes are like that. You don't understand yet how big e-bikes are going to be and e-scooters
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and e-things. It's because the battery technology finally reached a point where they're awesome.
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So that's how I'd build my city. And then there's a story about the Israeli Air Force
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bombed an Iranian drone factory located in Syrian territory. So apparently the Iranians
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were shipping the drone parts to a Syrian territory place that they had control of and building the
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drones there. Now, is that why Iran can say these drones did not come from us? That's probably their
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trick, right? Joe Hoft did a piece on me yesterday. I suppose I should go look at that. Joe Hoft or Jim Hoft?
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I don't know which Hoft. I don't know which Hoft you're talking about. All right. I'll look that up.
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So there goes that Iranian drone factory. What happens if Russia can't get... It is Jack. What happens if
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the Russians can't get Iranian drones? That's a pretty big deal, isn't it, in terms of the war direction?
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Yeah, lithium recycling is cranking up fast. That's true.
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How many kids can you fit on an e-bike? Well, they would have their own e-bike. So
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Scott, Jenny says, Scott, duped by batteries and green energy, thinks everything always improves
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like chip processing speed. Does that sound like something I say? That I'm duped into believing
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that batteries and green energy will improve like chip processing speed? Does that sound like
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something I said, you stupid bitch? By the way, if you haven't already noticed,
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in personal relationships, tell me if this isn't true. One-on-one, if you're talking to somebody in
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person, if a woman criticizes a man, the man will hold back. True or false? If a woman criticizes a man
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in person, the man will hold back. Of course. Now, not only will the man hold back physically,
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of course, because you're not going to create a fight, but you will hold back verbally as well.
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Will you not? True or false? That a man will hold back verbally as well. Because, you know,
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you don't want the husband to come over and punch your lights out and stuff like that.
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But here's the problem. And correct me if I'm wrong. This is just a hypothesis I'm developing.
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My belief is that women have taken that safety to the internet, and they believe they can shit on me
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without any pushback. And so, because I like to train them that that's not the case,
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as soon as they criticize me unfairly, I call them stupid cunts. Because I'm not going to hold
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back on social media. On social media, if you come after me, it's going to be 100%, well, I might even
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exceed what you did. Like, if you come after me with an 8 out of 10 awfulness, I might give you a 10,
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and I wouldn't feel bad about that at all. Do you know why? Because I'm not a sexist.
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That's why. Because I did not grow up around weak women. Right? My mother wasn't weak.
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My sister isn't weak. No women in my family were weak. So if you come at me hard, I'm going to
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fucking slap you back on social media. In person, I would act the same way. In person,
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I would just suck it up. Because in person, you really do have to take into account there's a
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physicality difference there. And I would go easy on somebody who did not have a physical
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equity with me. Like, I would just treat them differently. But online? No. No, I have no filter
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online. If you come at me with bullshit, I'm going to come at you with everything I've got
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just for fun. Right? And I don't even care about you. Just to be clear, I don't care about you at all.
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I just enjoyed the fact that you gave me a free punch. And I thought, oh, free punch. I would love
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to call somebody a fucking piece of shit. Right to their digital face. It's fun. You should try it.
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Have you ever, like, just seriously insulted somebody right to their face while they're live?
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It's way more fun than you think it is. Because you don't get to do it in real life. But on social media,
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yeah, come at me. You would cry? No, you wouldn't.
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Anyway, but the basis for this, I know somebody who's going to say, he's a misogynist because he
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says bad things about men. To which I say, you fucking idiot? No, I call everybody the same way.
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You've seen me treat men on social media. Do I go easy on men on social media? Never.
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Never. Never. I never go easy on men. I just cursed one out this morning. It's like a daily
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occurrence for me. All right. Treat everybody the same, I say. Exactly. Well, I don't think
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that's... I don't think that's all that happened today, but did anything else happen today that
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I care about? What's your... What's on your mind? Yeah, you're right. I don't reserve the
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Opinion on the phrase, the walls are closing in. Well, I mean, it's a punchline phrase now.
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But I do worry that we're getting too used to the fact that the walls never do close in.
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Yeah, there was some ABC producer that disappeared, but we don't know why.
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Mayo Clinic, an executive health program, a one- to three-day physical exam. Huh.
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You got canceled by Sertovich by saying, why don't man eat real protein instead of powder stuff?
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Pat, he got canceled by Sertovich for asking about protein sources.
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Sertovich is the best canceler on the internet, I think.
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Somehow he's turned canceling into some kind of like an asset or something.
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Like he cancels so aggressively that it's like, I've told you about addiction, right?
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Addiction is not caused by getting what you want and then wanting more of it.
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Addiction is caused by not being sure you'll get what you want, but you get it often enough
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that you're really craving each time so you get addicted.
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But if you follow Sertovich, your odds of being blocked for making a comment are so high
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He's somehow, he's managed to make his Twitter feed like a club where he can turn you away
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Paul Joseph says, where did Sertovich even come from?
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Now that is one of the most interesting stories in the world.
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Talk about somebody who did it himself just by figuring it out.
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How do you lessen debate experts and increase STEM experts?
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Somebody says, how does Sertovich have more followers than I do?
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He's clearly one of the best tweeters on all of Twitter.
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I mean, you'd have to put him in the top ten of any group.
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You find Cary Lake more persuasive than DeSantis.
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Because they both persuade their base, and both perfectly.
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I mean, a DeSantis-Cary Lake, oh my God, imagine that.
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Now, I don't think it'll be 2024, but, like, imagine a DeSantis-Cary Lake,
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and I don't know who would be president and who would be vice president,
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Should I learn the name of the new UK prime minister?
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Or should I just put some lettuce on the counter and call it a day?
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Are you saying would I advise him whether he should run?
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I'm not in the sense of having private meetings to advise him.
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It would hurt my sense of independence, if I have any.
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So I'd rather say in public what I think he should do
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China doesn't know they're in a death match with me.
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Now, I don't know if I can make any difference.
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I just know things tend to go my way in the long run.
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I don't think we want them to completely collapse,
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but we might want them to be licking their wounds a little bit.
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Yeah, I saw that three people died from buying cocaine from the same source,
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but it wasn't cocaine, it was fentanyl, mostly.
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By the way, the way you should look at our current stock market pullback,
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How much are we down on our own stock market high,
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I think it's pulled back up a little bit to maybe 25%.
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so it's bouncing around in that 20% to 30% range.
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If it's around 25%, or let's say the average of the bottom,
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that's exactly what it was supposed to do for a healthy stock market.
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It would have been much worse if the bubble had increased.
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If your stock market has a history of getting ahead of itself
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So if I told you before, this is a Mark Twain observation,
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that people can't tell the difference between good news and bad news,
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You can't tell the difference between good news and bad news.
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And when the correction came and it went down 25%,
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Because the worst thing you could have is your risk
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You want your risk and your reality to be somewhat rebalanced every now and then.
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So that's the most optimistic thing I can say about the stock market,
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And I think Warren Buffett probably called it, et cetera.
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Now, my biggest problem when the stock market was high
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is I was trying to figure out how to conserve cash
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because I was sure it was going to go down 25%.
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But unfortunately, my conserving cash coincided with my divorce.
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You know, and the cash is the first thing that you move around
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So I was cash poor at the time that I would have gone in hard.
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But all my cash is sitting somewhere I want it to be right now.
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How has your perspective changed from 20 years ago?
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Like, so I would say that my automatic response