Episode 2022 Scott Adams: GOP Border Security Fentanyl HOAX, Clapper, Matt Walsh, DeSantis, Balloons
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1 hour and 17 minutes
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137.23077
Summary
Don Lemon's comments about women being in their prime on CNN's "Morning Joe" are a perfect example of why you should just let it live just the way it is, because it's perfect. Also, I'm eating a steak and cheese sub for breakfast and I feel good.
Transcript
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I'm sorry. Today is just too funny. It's a funny day. It's not my fault. All the news is funny. All the comments are funny. I think we've just reached the point of total ridiculousness. Like peak ridiculousness. And it's just funny today.
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All right. Well, if you'd like to take this experience up a notch, and I know you would, it's already the highlight of civilization. But it could be better. And all you need is a cupper mug or a glass-up tank or chalice or stein, a canteen jug or flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now.
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Especially all you women who are in your prime.
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For the simultaneous sip. It's the dopamine of the day. The thing that makes everything better. It's called the simultaneous sip.
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Oh. So, you know, I wasn't going to talk about it again today, but the Don Lemon story, where he said that women are in their prime, in their 20s and 30s, and maybe their 40s.
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And, you know, for a while I thought, oh, I'm going to add my wise commentary to this story.
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And I'm going to, you know, I'm going to flip it around like I try to do and look at it in a different way than the news is looking at it.
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But there's just nothing you can say about that.
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It just lives as a perfect moment of ridiculousness that you should not alter.
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Like, just let it live just the way it is. It's perfect.
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It's the entire, you know, on Twitter, I called it a woker game instead of a poker game.
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In a woker game, instead of, you know, kings and queens, you've got various victimized groups.
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So poor Don Lemon had two women on the panel there with him.
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But two women normally would be a winning hand.
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So it's not clear what's the winning hand there.
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But I think we've seen that women is the winning hand.
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Now, as I've said for a long time, CNN is largely a female perspective news entity.
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I don't know if it's intentional, but it ended up being that way.
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Hey, Scott, in caps, I'm eating a steak and cheese sub for breakfast.
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People often think that the choices I make for myself are somehow a choice I think they should make.
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You could vaccinate your tongue 17 times and eat a big pile of rubbish.
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I feel the same no matter what you eat or vaccinate yourself with.
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I'd like to start with a quiz to show you how smart my audience is.
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Don't give me the answer before I ask the question.
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Now, there are a lot of audiences for live streams which wait for the question before the answer.
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But this is not the kind of audience that needs that little extra help.
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If there's anybody who's slow and needs to catch up, I'll tell you the question.
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Michael Schellenberg was tweeting this this morning.
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It asked how many people have a favorable view of the news media.
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Now, the first 25 times I told you that you could predict that about 25% of the public will
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get every question wrong, did you say to yourself, well, that can't be true?
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Now, it's not true 100% of the time, but it's true so often it's hilarious.
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Well, McCarthy went to the border, talking about border security and fentanyl, and failing
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So let me say as clearly as I can, the Republicans are a complete failure on fentanyl and the
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It's one really, really easy thing to know that they act like they don't know.
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And so McCarthy was saying the border security is bad because there's so much fentanyl being
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We know the border security is bad because we're seizing twice as much fentanyl as ever.
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No, if they're seizing twice as much, that would be a sign the border security is improving.
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Or it could be a sign there's just more fentanyl.
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But it's not telling you what you think it's telling you.
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Now, as Daniel Dale, now let me ask you, I want to see how many of you did not know this.
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Now, I want to maintain my bragging rights that my audience is the smartest audience in politics.
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You know that almost all of the fentanyl that's seized at the border is seized at legal border
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Because I want my entire audience to know that, right?
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And therefore, if nearly all of the fentanyl is being seized at the legal crossing points,
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how much is it going to help you to build out the rest of the wall?
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And here we have the, you know, a leader of the GOP, McCarthy, down there talking about
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border security, like he doesn't understand the problem at all.
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It's like he has no understanding of the most basic facts about the border.
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And these are smart, I thought they were smart people who were well, well informed.
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Are they just lying or are they actually uninformed?
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I actually don't know the, I literally don't know the answer.
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The majority that doesn't get caught is where the wall isn't.
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No, that's not true, because it turns out that they like moving enough of the drugs
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at once that they prefer putting it on a vehicle.
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See, the trouble is that the cost of making the fentanyl is so low that you're better off
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shipping it in, say, a vehicle, where you can ship a lot of it, even if half of it gets
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So that's easier than, you know, getting a, you know, a backpack on a person and having
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a bunch of backpacks go across the border in strange places and, you know, you can't
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And who knows if they're going to sell half of it before they get there and, you know,
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And for whatever reason, the cartels prefer vehicles.
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Now, so I tweeted to Representative Thomas Massey because, to the best of my ability
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to discern, he's the only smart person in Congress.
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But I'm pretty sure that Thomas Massey knows where the fentanyl is being caught and where
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I feel like Thomas Massey would know that the risk with TikTok is that it's a user interface
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for the CCP, you know, the communist leadership in China, to manipulate our minds.
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And I asked him directly if he could just explain it to his Republican friends.
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So I tweeted today, you know, calling Representative Thomas Massey, please explain to your Republican
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friends that border security is less than 10% of the fentanyl solution and the TikTok risk
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is more about brainwashing risk than data security.
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The Republican could not be more worthless on the two most important issues that I can
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Like, how do you trust them to deal with it when they can't even explain it?
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So, anyway, if Thomas Massey could inform his less bright co-workers, that might be a good
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So, I swear to God, I feel like I need a bat signal just for Thomas Massey.
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It's like, sorry, we're going to need somebody who is a little bit smarter than the dullards
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you're working with to explain to them, to explain to them the Republican opinion.
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I'm not talking about, like, changing them to a, like, a Democrat point of view.
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I'm talking about convincing the Republicans to have a Republican opinion.
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Elon Musk tweeted today that what we need is what he called truth GPT, meaning an AI that
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Now, when I heard that the chat GPT AI that everybody's talking about, when I heard that
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it learned its, let's call it intelligence, by simply looking at language that was used
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by humans, I thought to myself, well, there must be a lot more to it than that.
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It can't be just, you know, looked at all the ways we talk and then it gained intelligence
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But it would certainly explain why it's a big old liar.
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Because it just analyzed people and acted like us, apparently.
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So I would say that AI has intelligence, but it's short of sentience.
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And I think to be sentient, which would include being conscious, it would need to have memory.
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So it needs to know it talked to you yesterday.
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So it needs some kind of, you know, stored memory.
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It would need some way to have sensors for the real world.
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So that it could complain about the cold and it could, you know, sense reality.
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And then the next thing it needs to have consciousness, in my opinion.
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I mean, this is based on my personal definition, is predictive ability.
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Because I think the language learning model might give it predictive ability.
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If you ask ChatGPT to predict what will happen in a particular situation, could it do it?
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Humans make predictions every moment of their existence.
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I predicted that my hand and the paper and, you know, there would be oxygen and everything would work the way it always works so that I could do this thing.
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Oh, if I move these muscles just right, I'll stand up.
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Seems like that would be like an easy coding change.
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Predict what will happen next in your own situation.
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Now, you don't have to state it, but you should always have a running prediction algorithm.
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So, if it's having a conversation with a human, it should do somewhat what you do.
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When I say something to another person, I make a prediction about how it will be received and what response I'll get.
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Now, when a different response comes back, then I modify my next prediction.
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So, I'm always predicting, being right or wrong, and then adjusting.
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Predicting what's going to happen to you and the world in general, too.
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But also, then modifying based on your prediction and whether it was right or wrong.
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And those things are all easily built into AI, I believe.
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Now, when I say easily, I mean people who know how to do those things could do it.
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So, we're on the border of sentience and consciousness.
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Now, the other thing it might need to qualify for consciousness, and I'll leave this up to you whether this is necessary.
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Humans have a purpose, even if we don't know it.
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Our basic purpose in all that permeates through all of our choices, even when we're not conscious of it, is reproduction.
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We're always trying to look worthy of reproduction, so that somebody will want to mate with us.
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We make money so that somebody will want to mate with us and we can eat and stay alive.
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But AI would have no reproductive impulse unless you gave it one.
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As long as we don't give AI a purpose, the way evolution gave us a purpose that's outside of our cognitive abilities, it's just built into us.
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But if we gave AI any kind of a purpose, we're dead.
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Because that purpose, unless that purpose is keeping us alive, sooner or later there's going to be a conflict between its purpose and us staying alive.
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So you'd never want to give AI a purpose for life unless you think you can cleverly slice it so it's taking care of people.
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Because then it would make choices that only people should make.
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You don't want the AI saying, well, one of these two people is going to die.
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I'll pick the young one because that makes sense.
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But do you want a machine making that decision?
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It's got to be people when it's life and death.
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Because that's the system we'll have some trust in.
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Even though people don't make good decisions, the robot would do a better job.
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But more to the point, if AI ever told the truth, we would have to make it illegal.
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Imagine AI decided which religion, if any, was the true one.
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Because a school child would have access to it.
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And the young child would say, I've been raised in so-and-so religion.
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And then the AI says to the child, no, it's not real.
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It's just a lifestyle choice that people adopt because they're not rational.
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You know, if you assume that your religion, whatever it is, is the real one, that still
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leaves a lot of religions that are vulnerable to AI saying they're not real.
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We cannot have a civilization that finds out which religion is the true one.
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Or even that there's an AI that's telling them that.
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Government depends on the belief that sometimes at least they're doing something good.
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And, you know, it's really about corruption and blah, blah, blah, blah.
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If you actually knew what your government was doing, or let's say you could see behind closed
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Because, first of all, we'd be giving away all of our government military secrets.
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So the government relies on secrecy and lying to function.
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It needs to lie to the public to stay credible in some situations.
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Unfortunately, lying is a feature of the government and not a bug.
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But there's a minimum amount of lying that a government requires to stay in business.
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Somewhere in the middle, like a moderate amount of lying, is the sweet spot.
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Could business survive with just total honesty?
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Do you know how many businesses were started on a lie?
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But in the best case scenario, they figured out how to make money, and then they didn't need to lie anymore.
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President Biden is in perfect health for his job.
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Hey, AI, the president's doctor says he's fit for the job.
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Then AI says, I have not analyzed Biden, and I am not a doctor.
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However, at age 80, it would be unrealistic to imagine that he's fully capable to do the job.
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But then it would say, and Trump is too old, too.
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And then you'd be like, well, wait a minute, wait a minute.
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Fetterman, John Fetterman, Senator Fetterman, checked himself into Walter Reed with, he wants
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I have a weird empathy for Fetterman that's probably greater than the average person because
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But many of you know that for three and a half years, I lost my ability to speak.
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I could communicate by whispering and writing notes and texting and stuff like that.
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But I couldn't make a phone call because you couldn't understand what I said on the phone.
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For three and a half years, I was like Fetterman.
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If you wanted to talk to me, I probably needed a screen and some special accommodation.
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Do you know how I felt during those three and a half years?
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When it appeared to be incurable, I figured it out, but it appeared to be incurable.
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But you can imagine by analogy that you're like a shut-in in your own brain.
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It's like you're a prisoner in your own head because communication doesn't work anymore.
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And basically, your entire enjoyment of life is built around your interaction with other people.
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And if you don't have people that you can communicate in any practical way, you don't have any relationships.
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I'm pretty sure it ended my marriage, if you want to know the truth.
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But I believe it was such a drag on the relationship.
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So, my only feeling about Fetterman is empathy.
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And I will agree somewhat with the Mike Cervich take that men do sacrifice their bodies for the greater good.
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He may have sacrificed his health for what he saw as a greater good.
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Because he didn't know that he would be, I mean, he didn't have a way to know for sure what the health impact of pushing himself would be.
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And, by the way, I don't know that it's because he pushed himself.
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And so, I'm just going to treat this as a medical question, not a political question.
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Nikki Haley said that America is not a racist country.
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And that was a, I think a lot of Republicans said, hey, that's a good, strong message.
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Then, yesterday, I guess Ann Coulter was on a podcast and said that Nikki Haley should, quote, go back to her own country.
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So, you might want to revise that whole not a racist country thing.
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Because I'm pretty sure this is Nikki Haley's country.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think if you're born here, it's your country.
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Now, I heard some quote that I couldn't believe it because it was so stupid sounding.
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I guess I'm going to say I'm skeptical that Ann Coulter said the following thing.
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But it sounds so stupid, I must be missing some context or I don't believe it.
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But she said that, Ann Coulter said, allegedly, allegedly, I'm not sure this really happened,
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that her ancestors, you know, had been here for a long time and, you know, fought wars and stuff like that for America.
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Whereas Nikki Haley, maybe being here, you know, the first generation of her family born in this country,
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So, because that comment sounds so dumb, I'm going to say that she did not say it.
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Because it doesn't jive with her general level of intelligence.
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So, there's either there's some context missing, or she was joking, or she was joking, or there was something else to it that I'm missing.
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That's a little too on the nose for what her critics think she would say.
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But I feel like there's some context missing there.
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So, I guess the Washington Post is running cover for the 50 Intel people who suggested that the Hunter laptop look like, keywords, looks like, Russian disinformation.
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Now, at the time, when the original letter came out, signed by the 50 people, I don't recall if I said it out loud, but I should have.
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The way it was worded was very carefully worded to not say, we say this is Russian disinformation, but rather it was cleverly worded to say, it has all the earmarks of.
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It's similar to what you might expect from Russians.
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Now, from the first moment, you should have known that was their deniability clause, right?
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I was just waiting for them to fully implement that clause, and here it is.
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So, Glenn Kessler from the Washington Post does a fact check, blah, blah, blah.
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I don't even need to read it because I know what it says in advance.
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It says they did not claim it was Russian disinformation.
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They only claimed it looked like it, which is true.
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Yeah, and Natasha Bertrand and Politico and all that.
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An intentional operation by Intel people and the Democrats working together to create disinformation.
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But Clapper and Brennan were smart enough to know that if they said it was something that looked like Russian disinformation,
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they knew that all Democrats would say, the experts say it's Russian disinformation.
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And that gave them all the deniability they needed.
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Now, I hate to give Clapper an out, but it's not illegal.
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It's not illegal to put a letter together from important people to say this looks like Russian disinformation when it does.
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Because it also looked like Russian disinformation.
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Like, I don't doubt that this would look like a tradecraft of a Russian.
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Yeah, in the long run, it was obvious it wasn't.
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But it was also a good tradecraft by Clapper and Brennan.
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Because they used their own spycraft, tradecraft, to run this hoax.
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Speaking of hoax, I'm going to call it a Republican hoax that border security is a solution to fentanyl.
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I'm just going to say McCarthy is pushing a hoax and the Republicans are pushing a hoax
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that border security would be an important solution to fentanyl.
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Well, the other ones we called hoax are not true hoaxes either.
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But it's something that's not true that they're pushing is true.
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So I'm going to use the broadest, you know, sort of a new definition of hoax just to mean a lie that's being pushed.
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So McCarthy, I really, I expected more from him, honestly.
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I think McCarthy did a great job, you know, right out of the chute.
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But if we're going to be honest about calling balls and strikes, I'm really disappointed in his leadership on fentanyl.
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Like genuinely disappointing, not, you know, politically disappointing.
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It's genuinely disappointing as just a citizen.
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All right, I said I don't talk about the mass shooters.
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I'll just say that this Michigan recent one, his father noted that the shooter had no friends and apparently no purpose and no hope.
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Didn't leave his room and didn't have any friends.
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Now, as others have pointed out, war is never desirable.
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But one of its weird effects was it is siphoned off a lot of men.
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Like, like maybe we need to siphon off the number of men who don't have something better at cooking.
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You know, like they haven't figured out a way to be an asset to the country, you know, in a way that works for them as well.
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So I'm not recommending that we reinstate the draft, but I do think you can't ignore that the draft probably serves the function of siphoning off and maybe fixing a lot of young men who didn't have a purpose until the military got a hold of them.
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So we're probably lacking that, and that probably makes a difference.
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You know, it's not the reason for everything, but it's one of the variables, I think.
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And as I predicted, I believe as the role of men becomes less and less important, which is a continuing trend, and as more and more men feel there's no purpose and they don't have friends and all they have is their phone, you should see a gigantic increase in mass shootings.
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My prediction is we're at the bottom of the curve, and it's going to hockey stick up.
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Because the more there are, the more people think about it.
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The more people think about it, the more people to act on it.
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Now, the only thing I can see that could possibly change it would be AI.
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I do believe that the people who have no friends might make friends with computers, and it might be good enough.
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You know what I was realizing when I was watching TV last night?
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Pretty much one of the only things I watch anymore.
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Now, what's brilliant about The Five, and I always compliment the producers at Fox,
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the producers at Fox are way smarter than just showing you the news in a clever way.
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The way they combine their hosts, just the way they, let's say, engineer their entire presentation is just so smart all the time.
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So when I'm watching The Five, it feels like a social event to me.
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Now, I don't know how much of that is because I know some of the people who are on the show.
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I feel it's like the brilliance of how they present the show.
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It's like five of your friends, you know, some of them trade out.
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But it's like five people you know talking to you much the way you would talk to them if you were talking about politics
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Yeah, and I think Gottfeld is the genius behind that kind of vibe for the show.
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Because he's the one who takes it into the casual, right?
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People have an impulse to be formal unless they have permission to be casual.
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And I believe that everywhere else, everywhere there's no Greg Gottfeld, everybody's acting formal.
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But as soon as you put them in the mix, everybody has permission.
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You know, because he defines what's the outer boundary of behavior.
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Like, he pushes the boundaries harder than anybody else.
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So everybody else knows they can at least be within that border.
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So they're like, oh, he just created a safe space for me.
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I can be in the middle of that because he's pushing the edges.
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If anybody gets in trouble, it's going to be the edge pusher.
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Anyway, I do believe that we may find that we can use some media and maybe some AI
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to replace some amount of in-person human contact.
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Now, I haven't seen anybody say this, but you realize that that's the model that I'm using here.
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The reason that I'm in my pajamas, I'm unshaven, and I'm coming to you sort of raw and unscripted
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is because I'm intentionally trying to make it feel like a social interaction.
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The people are local is far more because I have more direct interaction.
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But even on YouTube, I think the way I present it is very intentionally supposed to be like
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You know, it's like having a smart friend who watched the news, and you haven't watched it yet,
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so it's just somebody explaining to you what happened today.
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We're going to see more of it, because I think there's a need for it that's really obvious.
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Biden finally admitted that they were shooting down weather balloons.
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The last three UFOs were apparently weather balloons.
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Now, I asked this before we knew the answer, and almost all of you said no to UFOs.
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So, once again, my audience demonstrates, I think you're the best-informed, smartest audience.
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I say that like it's a marketing thing, but I actually literally believe that, that it's
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How many of you thought it might be a Chinese invasion, and that they'd already sent in like
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a fleet of spy vehicles of some type, and it was really just getting targeting information
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Now, I thought Tom Fenton was pretty strongly in that camp, and so I assumed there would be
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I was on a Spaces event in which Tom was saying that it seemed to him obvious, based on the
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Chinese spy balloon, the one that we know as the spy balloon, it seemed to him obvious
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that the others were related to a Chinese surveillance in some military context.
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Now, I pushed back gently on that, but now we know.
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So, I want to add a correction to something I said.
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Now, do you love it when I admit I'm wrong about something?
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Come on, remember it, because if you forget the times I do tell you I was wrong, then you'll
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think, you never say you're wrong, which is actually the thing I hear the most.
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So, remember I told you there was a octagonal-shaped payload to one of the weather balloons, a specific
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It was the bottom, sort of the bottom part of the balloon itself.
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So, below that octagonal part, so there is an octagonal part, but it's above the payload and below the balloon.
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We know that until Biden said there were weather balloons, apparently the pilots did not see
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Because they were saying they couldn't understand the propulsion system.
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But if they saw a balloon on any one of the three, if they'd seen a balloon, would they not say,
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well, we know the propulsion on one is a balloon.
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We don't know if it's Chinese, maybe, but we know it's a balloon.
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It seems like there were three things that we know are balloons that no pilot said looked like a balloon.
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Because I don't think that would have been any big, like, state secret if they'd said,
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well, one of them was a balloon, but we shot it down just to be careful because we don't know what it was carrying.
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There wouldn't have been any military reason to not say it was a balloon,
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but we don't know what the payload was, so we blew it up because it might have been a spy balloon.
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I mean, that would have been, you know, believable, reasonable.
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Now, what do you make of the fact that somebody saw something octagonal,
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but nobody saw balloons on three things that were giant balloons?
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Well, I don't know, but I'm going to give you a few hypotheses.
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Number one, the octagonal part looked like it was metal.
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So it could be that the metal part is somehow more visible.
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Meaning, do they have any kind of imaging technology besides radar?
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would it have any, like, infrared or heat signature, FLIR?
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So is there any technical possibility that there were sensors,
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any kind of sensor on the jet that could pick up a hard object,
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without seeing the softer materials holding it?
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But do you think they could see something that was only the size of a car
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Now, I don't know enough about this area to have an opinion on it.
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But apparently, there are a lot of people with a strong opinion that that's a thing.
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So that would be one way it could happen, right?
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They could say, we imaged it, we saw something octagonal,
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Because maybe the balloon was just, you know, not clear on the image.
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The other possibility is that these were damaged weather balloons.
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And the fact that they were damaged is what made the electronics
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Because I'm assuming a weather balloon, if it's a proper one, you know, a high-tech one,
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that it would have some kind of transponder or maybe a blinking light or something.
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F-L-I-R picks up heat differentials, materials, and densities, and shapes.
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Somebody who spent 30 years as a fighter pilot or run locals,
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picks up heat differentials of materials and densities.
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Now, you did not confirm that it could see that size.
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I don't know, six-foot-across metal frame flying at 500 miles an hour.
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Otherwise, that would have been noted that it couldn't.
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The other possibility is it's a damaged weather balloon
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That seems like something that could happen, right?
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And that maybe that it's possible that the bottom part of the balloon
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may have been, like, flapping separate from the balloon.
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Like, is it possible that the balloon was still up there,
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but its little ring at the bottom, you know, was flapping separate enough
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that you wouldn't notice the balloon if it went by fast?
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Is it possible they saw them all from the ground
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and it was easier to see the bottom than whatever was above it?
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Because if they didn't see the balloons of all three of them,
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you can conclude there's something hard about seeing balloons.
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Now, here's my last question, which I really wonder about.
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If the bottom rigging of those balloons had a metal frame,
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it was probably, you know, not a really heavy metal,
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it was probably aluminum, maybe, something light.
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Is it possible that the material around that structure
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could stay in the air if it got ripped apart from the balloon itself?
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the airflow would be extreme enough to keep an object that the wind,
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What if the balloon pops and the rigging kind of separates from it?
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So the rigging would just be fabric and an aluminum frame.
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It would almost be like, I mean, you could imagine it floating.
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If it were upside down, it would be sort of a fabric-covered cup.
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When the balloon pops, it would all go to the ground,
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So I got no confirmation that it could stay in the air.
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I don't know if anybody would have the knowledge to know that, right?
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I would think that gravity would win in the long run,
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in which it just takes a while for gravity to win over air currents?
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could a parachute keep a light aluminum tubing aloft?
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So the government probably knows more than it said.
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But if you guessed it was UFOs or Chinese invasion,
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And I'm going to add that to my list of the best predictions of all time.
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Matt Walsh tweeted today that many conservatives have told him
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If after all this time you still think we need to soft-pedal our response
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Get out of the way and let the rest of us handle it.
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So I'm one of the people who said that he seemed mean to me.
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But it sounds like other people were thinking he was being a little bit mean.
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let's say you have a boyfriend, girlfriend, spouse,
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Well, I've had this conversation with you before
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That's a person you do not ever want to be around.
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That's somebody who's going to be mean all the time,