Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2081 Scott Adams： Musk On AI Risk, Growth Mindset Solves Poverty, Bribing Doctors, Bad Bing

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00:02:31.020 As you know, I do not make financial advice.

00:02:35.580 You know that, right?

00:02:36.880 I do not give financial advice.

00:02:39.360 And if you were to follow my example in what I'm going to describe next,

00:02:44.460 it probably would be a big mistake because I'm just guessing, right?

00:02:49.840 So, this is just guessing.

00:02:51.440 Not investing, just guessing.

00:02:54.680 Just before I signed down, I sold all of my Apple stock.

00:02:59.860 Here's why.

00:03:01.840 Have you tried Siri lately?

00:03:03.460 Seriously?

00:03:06.980 I mean, seriously.

00:03:10.780 In the realm of AI, how in the world is Apple's business model going to survive?

00:03:17.120 Because I don't see us using apps in the future, do you?

00:03:20.340 I mean, not the current group.

00:03:22.120 I feel like your phone is going to turn into an AI interface and you just tell it what you want. 0.76

00:03:30.700 So, Apple's dominant position in everything, I think, is garbage because all they have is Siri.

00:03:39.320 I know they're working on some kind of AI, but we haven't seen anything, have we? 0.86

00:03:44.140 We haven't seen anything.

00:03:45.500 So, unless Apple throws away everything they have and introduces a new AI phone that changes everything,

00:03:52.940 they got kind of a challenge ahead of them.

00:03:54.780 So, I didn't want to be holding the stock when AI makes their business model sketchy.

00:04:03.240 Now, here's why you shouldn't follow my advice.

00:04:07.060 All right?

00:04:07.520 This is really important.

00:04:09.540 Apple has a very long history of not falling into potholes that other people fall into.

00:04:14.620 So, the counter-argument is really strong.

00:04:18.720 The counter-argument is, well, they know how to navigate this stuff.

00:04:23.060 That's sort of what makes them Apple and you not Apple, is they know how to do this.

00:04:27.400 And presumably, they have huge resources already looking at AI from every angle and how to use it, etc.

00:04:34.640 So, they might be fine.

00:04:35.860 But, at the moment, I feel like guessing winners and losers in this context is less safe, it always was less safe, than holding index funds.

00:04:50.320 So, I think for a little while, I'm just going to park my money in index funds.

00:04:54.360 Because if something becomes a big moneymaker with AI, I want to get some of that upside, just by holding a basket of funds, or a basket of stocks that would include it, like Microsoft.

00:05:07.580 Yeah.

00:05:07.900 I do hold Microsoft stock.

00:05:10.200 I'm going to hold on to that.

00:05:11.620 It's done great since the pandemic.

00:05:15.280 All right.

00:05:15.620 So, don't take my financial advice, but if you're not, I'll just say a general thing.

00:05:20.480 If you're not incorporating the effects of AI in your five-year investment plan, and it should be at least a five-year plan, you're leaving out the biggest variable.

00:05:34.640 There's probably no bigger variable than AI in terms of how companies are going to fall out.

00:05:44.020 Well, a five-year investment plan just means money you don't need for five years, you hope.

00:05:50.480 All right.

00:05:52.920 Here are some interesting stories.

00:05:54.600 Do you know the rapper E-40?

00:05:57.140 He's sort of a local Bay Area famous guy, as well as world famous, I guess.

00:06:03.880 And interesting fact, he used to be my neighbor.

00:06:07.480 He doesn't know it, but he was my neighbor once.

00:06:11.060 Not right next door, but we lived in the same gated community for a while.

00:06:16.080 So, he was sort of a short walk down the street.

00:06:18.260 I never met him.

00:06:21.080 My ex met him once, but I never met him.

00:06:23.800 Anyway, he has a really good reputation locally.

00:06:26.900 He's just sort of a beloved rapper that everybody seems to have seen him in a restaurant or something somewhere.

00:06:33.180 And he got kicked out of the Warriors-Kings basketball game, but that's not the fun part.

00:06:38.460 Well, the first thing you'd have to know is that E-40 attends every Warriors game, at least the home games.

00:06:44.580 And she's a staple that you always see sitting up near the front. 0.94

00:06:55.440 And I guess at the Kings game, there was some heckler, and he responded to the heckler in some aggressive, verbal way.

00:07:04.720 And security came and took him away.

00:07:08.060 Now, there are many elements to this story.

00:07:11.680 Number one, you know, he was a huge Warriors fan, but he was in the Kings, you know, in the Kings stadium.

00:07:19.780 So, you know, maybe some of it was because they didn't want a big Warriors fan.

00:07:25.400 I don't know.

00:07:26.320 Maybe that.

00:07:26.920 But E-40 says he thinks it's racism.

00:07:30.120 He thinks it's racism.

00:07:31.920 Because the woman who heckled him, which got his response, was a white woman. 1.00

00:07:38.500 And so below the photograph of E-40 talking to a black security guard is the headline that he thinks racism is the problem.

00:07:48.420 So the black security guards removed him from an NBA game because there's all kinds of racism in the NBA.

00:08:01.400 Could there be anything less racist than an NBA game?

00:08:06.200 If you were to rank things from most racist to least racist, like in the whole world, just everything that there is, every event, every get-together, every situation,

00:08:16.520 from the most racist thing there could be to the least racist, I feel like he was in the least racist place on Earth at that very moment,

00:08:25.880 which was people of every ethnicity cheering mostly black players, you know, operating at the height of their peak abilities.

00:08:35.800 I mean, you can't get less racist than that.

00:08:39.220 But still, E-40 found an angle. 0.98

00:08:41.780 Yeah, so the black people and the security kicked down E-40 and it's that white woman's fault. 1.00

00:08:50.540 Or it's the security officer's fault for believing the white woman over the black rapper. 0.98

00:08:58.180 I know.

00:08:59.400 But that's where we are, 2023.

00:09:03.200 All right, there's some fake news about the UN.

00:09:07.780 So the UN commissioned some group to do some kind of report.

00:09:14.340 And the way it's being reported is that the UN, as opposed to the people that commissioned to give it a recommendation,

00:09:22.140 which is different, that the UN itself is now, well, I'll just read you a tweet from Ian Miles Chong.

00:09:30.800 He tweets that, according to the United Nations, children may consent to sex with adults.

00:09:36.480 What?

00:09:37.900 And this has been the plan all along.

00:09:40.720 Now, do you think that there's a story that fits that tweet?

00:09:46.280 Do you think in the real world there's a story that says, according to the United Nations, children may consent to sex with adults?

00:09:53.760 Do you think that's real?

00:09:55.220 Of course not.

00:09:57.080 Of course not.

00:09:58.360 It's not even close to real.

00:09:59.440 Let me tell you what is real.

00:10:03.200 It's poorly written.

00:10:05.080 That's real.

00:10:06.120 It's poorly written.

00:10:07.960 So one of the things it says, basically it said that although the age of consent might be said at a certain level,

00:10:20.020 that you must take into, you should, not must, that one should take into consideration the specifics of the situation.

00:10:29.440 And rather than, rather than assume that a minor can't consent, you should look at the, you know, the whole situation.

00:10:37.780 Now, is that different than reality?

00:10:40.360 Is that a change from the current situation?

00:10:43.420 Let me give you an example.

00:10:45.000 Two 17-year-olds are dating, and you know they're physically active.

00:10:50.160 They're both 17.

00:10:51.420 One of them turns 18, because one has a birthday before the other.

00:10:56.000 Now it's illegal, because one just turned 18.

00:11:00.740 Now that's an adult with a minor.

00:11:03.240 Do you put the 18-year-old in jail, because yesterday they were 17, and that was fine, or at least you didn't care as much.

00:11:11.800 Two 17-year-olds.

00:11:13.100 But then one has a birthday, and now it's an 18 and a 17-year-old.

00:11:16.120 Do you put one of them in jail, or do you do what the UN recommends, which is you look at the totality of the situation, and you say, okay, it's not consent the way we like to think of it, where somebody is mature, but it's definitely nobody's taking advantage of anybody.

00:11:34.220 It's two 17-year-olds trying to figure it out, right?

00:11:37.120 In my opinion, there's some sloppy writing in the report, but basically I don't think it's going beyond, look at the whole situation.

00:11:49.080 That's my take.

00:11:50.620 Now, could it be a slippery slope?

00:11:52.820 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:53.880 I mean, if that's what you're worried about, I suppose it could be opening a door to something.

00:11:59.220 But the way it's currently described doesn't look too shocking to me.

00:12:04.460 It looks more like the real world, exactly the way it exists now.

00:12:10.040 So, and the main reason that I say that is that they're not making a distinction between a 17-and-a-half-year-old and a 5-year-old.

00:12:22.920 Nobody's going to argue about the 5-year-old, but an 18-year-old and a 17-year-old, you've got to look at the totality of the situation.

00:12:30.440 So, I'm going to call that fake-ish news.

00:12:36.140 I guess this Elon Musk's starship launch is delayed for two days or a small technical problem.

00:12:44.080 Have you ever asked yourself, why is it that rocket ships are uniquely the ones that cancel launches because they found a small technical problem they didn't know about before?

00:12:54.780 We'll get rid of Scott, Scott, Scott person.

00:13:03.200 Goodbye.

00:13:07.600 All right.

00:13:09.140 Frozen valve.

00:13:10.660 You know, isn't it weird that a valve could be frozen?

00:13:14.600 Doesn't it seem like you could test almost everything before you were operational?

00:13:20.860 Like, how in the world is a valve not tested?

00:13:27.040 And if a valve was good before the launch, but right before the launch it wasn't good?

00:13:34.620 Isn't that the scariest thing you've ever heard in your life?

00:13:38.620 It's pretty scary.

00:13:40.880 By the way, is this manned?

00:13:42.980 It's not manned, right?

00:13:45.960 It's not manned, of course.

00:13:47.500 Yeah, we would have seen the astronauts.

00:13:48.860 All right, I'm assuming someday we'll be sending robots and AI.

00:13:56.380 Oh my goodness, I just realized.

00:13:59.200 If we sent AI and a few robots, it would just build a civilization for us.

00:14:04.940 It would just figure it out.

00:14:07.020 Wow.

00:14:09.440 So that's the most exciting thing happening in the world right now, but delayed.

00:14:13.380 Speaking of Musk, tonight, I guess, is Tucker Carlson's interview we'll be airing with Musk.

00:14:21.220 Some of the things we know that he'll be talking about is that the current AI is being trained to lie.

00:14:28.880 I'll talk about that a little bit more.

00:14:31.020 And also trained to not comment on some topics.

00:14:37.900 So Musk is starting his own AI.

00:14:41.620 And as a philosophy, he thinks that AI should be seeking maximum truth as opposed to being able to lie and make stuff up.

00:14:49.920 I don't know how you would do that.

00:14:51.620 Well, maybe he does, or maybe they'll figure it out.

00:14:58.660 Musk believes that if you make the AI curious, so it's always seeking truth,

00:15:06.180 the curiosity itself would allow it to protect humans because humans are sort of infinitely interesting.

00:15:13.380 I don't exactly buy that argument.

00:15:17.940 I don't believe that the curiosity of AI would be enough for them to keep humans around,

00:15:23.080 because I feel like they have lots of things to think about, and humans would not be that interesting.

00:15:28.280 No more interesting than, you know, animals or bugs or something.

00:15:33.540 All right.

00:15:35.780 Musk also said about, what was it about?

00:15:39.380 He said the most ironic outcome is the most likely.

00:15:41.480 So he's got a few versions of that, but, you know, I've been saying that for some time as well,

00:15:47.840 that the most amusing outcome is the most likely.

00:15:50.960 Because we just sort of like to head things in that direction.

00:15:55.660 I think we collectively make the simulation bend in the direction of what will be most entertaining.

00:16:04.680 And then he also said something, I don't know the details, because it was just a teaser,

00:16:08.420 but he did, Musk did tell Carlson that somebody had access to your Twitter DMs before Musk took over.

00:16:19.140 And it was a little unclear who that was, but I got the sense it might not be just one entity,

00:16:26.060 that governments, yeah, the FBI governments, they had access to your DMs.

00:16:30.760 Now, I assume that the government has access to all of your information, one way or another.

00:16:37.280 They just have to be interested.

00:16:38.760 I don't know that they were searching your DMs, you know, without looking for something specific,

00:16:45.940 but they had access to them.

00:16:48.540 So I remind you, never write anything in a digital message that you would be worried about,

00:16:55.180 or at least legally you'd be in trouble, or you'd get fired if somebody found it.

00:17:00.880 There's no such thing as privacy.

00:17:03.100 There are no private messages.

00:17:05.400 You should just tell yourself that.

00:17:06.800 There are no private messages.

00:17:08.580 Now, there are lots of things you need to say that you wouldn't want somebody to see.

00:17:13.920 So go ahead and say those things.

00:17:15.960 But don't say things that are going to put you in jail,

00:17:18.960 get you accused of some horrible behavior,

00:17:21.920 you know, makes you look like a monster in some way.

00:17:25.180 I wouldn't do those.

00:17:26.840 I just wouldn't write them down anywhere, ever.

00:17:30.620 But you can certainly say, you know,

00:17:33.900 criticize things and say the government is bad and stuff like that.

00:17:40.060 All right.

00:17:42.760 What do you think of these Chicago teens that were,

00:17:46.560 I don't know what you'd call it.

00:17:48.160 They were having a, let's say, a disruptive wilding.

00:17:55.880 I don't think it was wilding.

00:17:57.740 But they had a disruptive wild event for two nights in a row,

00:18:02.880 downtown Chicago.

00:18:03.820 You know, of course, there's always some damage and a couple people got shot.

00:18:08.580 And the mayor says that the root problem here,

00:18:14.420 or at least the thing that should be addressed,

00:18:16.480 is opportunities to do things that are adult supervised.

00:18:21.860 And, you know, when I watched this group of youths running wild

00:18:26.820 in the streets of Chicago, I said to myself,

00:18:29.860 if only they had some opportunity to be in a place

00:18:34.540 that was parental, you know, adult supervised.

00:18:39.120 Because those 19, 20-year-old youths,

00:18:43.780 what they needed was some adult supervision.

00:18:46.040 And if they had that opportunity, they would go right there.

00:18:50.240 You know, if they had, like, you know,

00:18:52.240 some place that was adult supervised,

00:18:54.880 and you just yelled at them,

00:18:56.460 you'd just take the bullhorn and say,

00:18:58.200 people, I know you're having an incredibly fun time running wild.

00:19:03.340 However, we have now unlocked the alternative place

00:19:06.960 where you can go have fun

00:19:08.580 while being completely supervised by adults.

00:19:11.820 And then they would immediately stop what they're doing

00:19:13.940 and say, whoa, are you kidding?

00:19:15.340 I can go somewhere supervised by adults.

00:19:18.340 Get me to that place now.

00:19:21.740 That's what they would say.

00:19:23.420 So that was a great plan by the new mayor of Chicago.

00:19:27.760 And I also wonder,

00:19:30.420 how do the other cities handle this problem?

00:19:35.500 Do the other cities all have those alternative adult supervised places?

00:19:41.480 They must have.

00:19:42.660 Because I don't hear about other episodes like this in other cities.

00:19:46.540 So I'm just guessing that somewhere in New York City and Los Angeles,

00:19:50.300 they have a whole bunch of alternative adult-oriented,

00:19:54.000 or not oriented, but adult supervised places.

00:19:56.900 And that is the one and only reason that these other cities do not have this problem.

00:20:04.060 So that's very insightful analysis by the mayor of Chicago.

00:20:10.360 Get away from cities.

00:20:12.460 Get away from cities as fast as you can.

00:20:15.460 Well, chat GPT-5 is coming in December-ish.

00:20:23.140 And apparently this is going to be the one that blows your mind,

00:20:26.120 not just like GPT-4, which is pretty impressive on its own,

00:20:30.500 but 5 is going to be crazy.

00:20:32.240 So apparently it'll have the ability to perform any intellectual task a human can do.

00:20:40.380 Which is interesting,

00:20:41.840 because humans can't do most intellectual tasks.

00:20:46.160 Am I right?

00:20:47.860 So I don't know exactly how you're measuring this,

00:20:51.080 but I guess they'll be able to do all those intellectual tasks.

00:20:54.900 Now, like everything else, I believe it will be a huge exaggeration.

00:20:59.480 And that it will not, in fact, be able to do complex tasks.

00:21:04.140 Here's why.

00:21:05.960 Because it won't know what we need.

00:21:08.560 It will just have to ask us every two seconds,

00:21:11.180 but did he mean this?

00:21:12.880 Do you still mean this?

00:21:14.260 Did you change your mind because you ate lunch?

00:21:16.760 It's going to have to be negotiating with people, like, continuously

00:21:19.860 to make sure it's doing what we really want.

00:21:22.360 Did you ever have a really capable employee?

00:21:26.960 Let's say an employee who's as smart as GPT-5 0.99

00:21:31.460 and can go off and do smarter things.

00:21:33.880 And you say to that smart person,

00:21:35.520 I would like you to go off and do this thing for me.

00:21:39.220 And it's very simple, and you explain it.

00:21:41.320 And then they come back, and they've done all their work,

00:21:43.780 and you look at it.

00:21:45.440 Is it what you asked for?

00:21:47.600 Never.

00:21:48.980 Never.

00:21:49.320 If somebody goes away for a week and does something autonomously,

00:21:53.180 even to very specific instructions,

00:21:56.320 and then they come back with it, it's never what you asked for.

00:21:59.520 Literally never.

00:22:00.760 Like, I've never seen it in my life.

00:22:03.800 Not even once.

00:22:05.700 So how is AI going to take your instructions

00:22:08.620 and then go off and do a thing,

00:22:11.000 and then you're going to be happy with it?

00:22:13.140 Do you think that's even possible?

00:22:15.600 No.

00:22:16.640 That's not possible.

00:22:17.560 It can never be possible.

00:22:20.460 Because we're not good at explaining what we want,

00:22:23.000 and we don't know it when we see it.

00:22:25.080 So we're going to have this continuous struggle

00:22:29.200 with AI to get it to do exactly what we want.

00:22:33.360 So here's what we're confusing.

00:22:35.800 We're confusing its capability,

00:22:38.060 which might be a 10 out of 10.

00:22:40.940 It's capable.

00:22:42.700 That's completely different from getting it to do it

00:22:45.400 the way you want it to be done.

00:22:48.060 There's no correlation between how well it can do it

00:22:51.560 and how well you can communicate it without any ambiguity,

00:22:55.800 and then actually know what you want

00:22:57.620 and actually get what you want.

00:22:59.540 It's going to be really hard to make AI do what you want.

00:23:03.360 Because everything's sort of an exception.

00:23:07.540 You know, the easy stuff will be real easy.

00:23:09.920 Google searches and stuff.

00:23:11.680 But getting it to do what you want,

00:23:13.640 that you really, really want,

00:23:14.940 that you didn't express, tough.

00:23:18.060 All right.

00:23:20.040 Could anybody explain why Apple's Siri is so bad?

00:23:23.140 I mean, I mentioned it,

00:23:25.060 but I'm completely confused

00:23:27.560 why the primary thing on my phone

00:23:31.280 looks like a 90s product.

00:23:34.660 It looks like a product from the 90s.

00:23:37.420 What happened?

00:23:39.240 Is Apple no longer able to build new stuff?

00:23:43.980 Do you think that there's a wokeness problem 0.99

00:23:46.960 or a size problem or a leadership problem?

00:23:50.460 Is it just that Steve Jobs isn't there?

00:23:53.140 Don't you think Steve Jobs would have been first with AI?

00:23:57.960 Do you think he would have been a late follower on AI?

00:24:01.560 I don't know.

00:24:04.060 Maybe.

00:24:06.280 So I don't know what's going on there,

00:24:07.960 but I'm worried.

00:24:11.300 Here's what I think computer programming

00:24:13.280 will look like in the future.

00:24:15.780 All right.

00:24:15.960 At the moment, the reason a computer programmer

00:24:19.580 can earn a high salary

00:24:22.140 is because they've memorized a whole bunch of rules

00:24:26.240 of how to build code

00:24:28.980 and what command means what.

00:24:32.100 So they've memorized this vast knowledge

00:24:35.120 of when to use what in what situations.

00:24:38.600 So that's what programming is.

00:24:39.860 So it could be different languages,

00:24:42.540 but in each case,

00:24:43.680 you have to memorize

00:24:44.800 a vast array of commands

00:24:47.700 and how they work.

00:24:50.160 That will now change

00:24:51.540 because AI will do that level of coding.

00:24:54.560 However,

00:24:55.680 the new job of a programmer

00:24:58.780 will be checking his work,

00:25:01.800 which means you still have to be a programmer.

00:25:03.740 You still have to check his work.

00:25:08.020 And secondly,

00:25:10.100 there will be hundreds of thousands

00:25:12.780 of AI programs

00:25:15.300 that do slightly different things

00:25:17.760 for different costs

00:25:19.720 with different limitations.

00:25:22.500 So in the future,

00:25:24.460 what a programmer will do,

00:25:25.740 will figure out

00:25:26.380 which of the 100,000 AI apps

00:25:28.660 can be combined,

00:25:31.140 like what,

00:25:31.620 three of them or four of them,

00:25:33.180 and then how to engineer the prompts

00:25:35.060 and then how to tie them together

00:25:37.100 so that the output of one

00:25:38.600 becomes the input of the other one.

00:25:42.080 Yeah.

00:25:42.300 So it's basically prompt engineering,

00:25:44.220 but times a thousand.

00:25:47.940 So I'm not sure

00:25:49.220 that the job of programming goes away.

00:25:51.340 I just think its nature

00:25:52.400 goes up a level

00:25:53.780 so that you're negotiating

00:25:55.420 the AI components

00:25:57.540 as opposed to the code

00:26:00.040 that built the AI components.

00:26:04.080 I have a few things wrong about Apple.

00:26:07.460 Here's what I don't have wrong. 0.98

00:26:11.020 Serious crap, 0.93

00:26:13.040 and they don't seem to be 0.99

00:26:15.260 introducing any product

00:26:17.340 that would make sense

00:26:19.120 in an AI world

00:26:20.100 that's coming too fast.

00:26:22.320 So if you have something about that,

00:26:24.940 that would be interesting.

00:26:28.300 Apple Maps.

00:26:29.200 Yeah.

00:26:32.120 All right.

00:26:32.860 There's news that

00:26:33.780 Fox News might be settling

00:26:35.640 the Dominion lawsuit

00:26:36.840 because that trial

00:26:38.300 was supposed to begin today,

00:26:39.620 but I guess they got a delay.

00:26:41.380 So the smart people are saying

00:26:42.940 they might negotiate.

00:26:43.940 And I have this question.

00:26:46.940 I don't know how Fox News

00:26:49.300 would pay $1.6 billion

00:26:51.900 or if they negotiated it down to,

00:26:54.960 I don't know,

00:26:56.120 half a billion or whatever.

00:26:58.140 How would they pay it?

00:27:00.200 Does Fox News have

00:27:01.400 a billion dollars

00:27:03.280 sitting around somewhere?

00:27:04.100 Do they have insurance

00:27:06.480 that would pay $1.6 billion?

00:27:08.000 I doubt it.

00:27:12.220 They might have insurance,

00:27:13.740 but you think they have insurance

00:27:14.720 that would pay $1.6 billion?

00:27:16.160 And do you think it would cover

00:27:20.180 something that

00:27:21.600 looked like bad behavior?

00:27:25.660 Because I don't think

00:27:26.660 insurance covers it

00:27:28.640 if you did something bad.

00:27:30.800 And that's the whole point

00:27:32.780 of the lawsuit

00:27:33.240 is that people there

00:27:34.520 did something bad,

00:27:36.120 said something that wasn't true.

00:27:38.020 So I don't know

00:27:39.260 if the lawsuit covers that.

00:27:40.540 Does it?

00:27:41.260 Or I don't know

00:27:41.780 if insurance covers

00:27:43.140 those situations.

00:27:44.860 But there's much I don't know

00:27:46.240 about this situation.

00:27:47.380 I just wonder

00:27:47.980 how they could possibly settle it

00:27:49.780 because it seems like

00:27:51.000 it's an extinction event

00:27:52.400 for Fox News.

00:27:54.460 And I don't think

00:27:55.500 that's the case.

00:27:56.860 But how would they have

00:27:57.480 that much money?

00:27:58.380 That's a lot of money

00:27:59.080 to be sitting around

00:27:59.720 for a news organization.

00:28:00.800 that sells MyPillow.

00:28:04.460 All right.

00:28:05.100 I tweeted around

00:28:05.940 a 2016 study

00:28:07.340 that was performed

00:28:08.840 in Chile.

00:28:10.240 Because I guess Chile

00:28:10.960 has some good data

00:28:13.080 and tests and stuff

00:28:14.340 and poverty, whatever.

00:28:17.660 Here's what they found.

00:28:20.200 That among the desperately

00:28:21.620 poor members of Chile,

00:28:23.200 the kids,

00:28:24.860 if the kids had

00:28:25.760 a growth mindset,

00:28:29.280 the level of

00:28:30.660 poverty didn't hold

00:28:32.280 them back.

00:28:34.400 Just hear that

00:28:36.160 because that's just

00:28:36.820 the most important

00:28:37.820 sentence ever spoken.

00:28:40.420 It's a 2016 study.

00:28:42.480 But it says that

00:28:43.680 the people with

00:28:44.200 the growth mindset,

00:28:45.280 now the growth mindset

00:28:46.120 was that nothing

00:28:47.540 would hold them back.

00:28:49.780 That if they

00:28:50.860 put the work in,

00:28:53.180 that even though

00:28:53.860 they were desperately poor

00:28:54.960 and there were

00:28:56.060 lots of variables

00:28:56.840 not in their favor,

00:28:57.620 that if they put the work

00:28:59.180 in, they would do fine.

00:29:01.100 And they found out

00:29:02.000 that the ones

00:29:02.860 who believed

00:29:03.560 that putting the work

00:29:04.780 in would make them fine

00:29:05.940 put in the work

00:29:07.520 and largely

00:29:09.680 they did fine.

00:29:11.580 So,

00:29:12.500 I don't think

00:29:14.960 there's a bigger

00:29:15.640 fact than that.

00:29:17.960 So this has been

00:29:18.620 my whole problem

00:29:19.320 with the CRT

00:29:20.240 and DEI

00:29:21.240 and ESG.

00:29:23.040 if you're talking

00:29:24.700 about the victimization

00:29:26.880 of one class

00:29:27.740 of people,

00:29:28.460 that's the opposite

00:29:29.520 of a growth mindset.

00:29:32.320 And people are

00:29:33.020 starting to figure it out.

00:29:33.960 I think a lot

00:29:34.600 of the black parents

00:29:35.680 are figuring out, 0.97

00:29:36.400 wait a minute,

00:29:36.760 wait a minute.

00:29:37.860 This victimization stuff

00:29:40.200 where there's

00:29:41.240 systemic racism

00:29:42.120 holding us back,

00:29:43.500 that's the opposite

00:29:44.560 of what would

00:29:45.260 make us successful.

00:29:46.880 What would make

00:29:47.720 black people successful 0.94

00:29:48.800 is telling them 0.98

00:29:49.640 nothing can hold

00:29:50.440 them back.

00:29:51.560 And then they would

00:29:52.140 act that way.

00:29:53.820 If you tell them

00:29:54.820 everything is

00:29:55.480 holding you back,

00:29:56.520 you can't even

00:29:57.200 go to a basketball

00:29:58.020 game without getting

00:29:58.820 kicked out for being 0.84

00:29:59.720 black, 0.95

00:30:00.800 sort of the E-40

00:30:01.840 opinion.

00:30:03.420 If you tell them

00:30:04.220 that, then that's

00:30:04.960 all they'll see.

00:30:06.480 Now, that has

00:30:07.140 nothing to do with

00:30:07.780 being black or

00:30:08.420 being white or

00:30:09.360 being anything else.

00:30:10.900 It has everything

00:30:11.460 to do with mindset

00:30:12.600 that's very predictable.

00:30:14.620 If you have a

00:30:15.340 growth mindset,

00:30:16.380 you'll probably

00:30:16.940 be fine.

00:30:18.120 If you don't,

00:30:19.180 if you have a

00:30:19.660 victim mindset,

00:30:20.720 you're probably

00:30:21.340 going to live in

00:30:21.860 that for the rest

00:30:22.400 of your life.

00:30:23.040 So, just because

00:30:27.120 it's one study

00:30:28.120 and it came out

00:30:28.860 of, I think it

00:30:29.760 was a study that

00:30:30.440 looked at other

00:30:31.000 studies, but, you

00:30:32.240 know, those are

00:30:32.720 all sketchy.

00:30:34.020 So, the first

00:30:34.580 thing you have to

00:30:35.080 say is, is this

00:30:36.460 reproducible?

00:30:37.200 does it match, and does

00:30:38.900 it match observation?

00:30:45.720 I would say it

00:30:46.560 definitely matches

00:30:47.360 observation.

00:30:48.420 What do you think?

00:30:50.120 My observation is

00:30:51.620 that everybody with a

00:30:52.580 growth mindset does

00:30:53.560 well eventually.

00:30:55.220 Maybe not day one,

00:30:56.760 but eventually they

00:30:57.560 all do well.

00:30:58.920 Because success is

00:31:00.460 not that much of a

00:31:01.460 mystery.

00:31:01.740 if you just read

00:31:04.340 about the people

00:31:04.940 who did it, and

00:31:06.340 you say, all right,

00:31:06.960 how did you become

00:31:07.900 successful?

00:31:08.960 And you read about

00:31:09.740 a bunch of people,

00:31:10.940 you find a pattern,

00:31:12.540 and then you follow

00:31:13.460 it.

00:31:13.900 Oh, so they learned

00:31:15.640 a bunch of skills,

00:31:16.640 they took smart

00:31:17.340 risks, they didn't

00:31:18.400 go to jail, they 1.00

00:31:19.600 were not addicted

00:31:20.240 to drugs.

00:31:21.660 I get it.

00:31:22.560 I could do that.

00:31:23.900 And then you do it,

00:31:24.720 and it does work.

00:31:25.440 All right, so I

00:31:31.340 feel as if we're on

00:31:32.700 the precipice of

00:31:35.760 understanding that

00:31:36.740 the whole conversation

00:31:37.640 about race was a

00:31:39.300 gigantic mistake, and

00:31:41.400 that it always should

00:31:42.620 have been about

00:31:43.100 mindset.

00:31:44.760 And I reject, as

00:31:47.560 serious people,

00:31:48.660 anybody who's

00:31:49.240 talking about race

00:31:50.120 from now on,

00:31:51.840 basically.

00:31:52.200 If your frame is

00:31:55.100 race, you have a

00:31:56.960 losing mindset, and

00:31:58.820 it's not even worth

00:31:59.580 the conversation.

00:32:01.140 Is there a bunch of

00:32:02.120 discrimination in

00:32:03.160 this place or not?

00:32:04.920 Who cares?

00:32:06.500 I don't care.

00:32:08.020 There is a bunch of

00:32:09.080 discrimination in

00:32:10.040 this place.

00:32:11.300 I don't care.

00:32:12.760 How's your mindset?

00:32:14.320 Because if your

00:32:14.860 mindset is good, you're

00:32:15.800 going to blow right

00:32:16.340 through it like it

00:32:16.900 didn't matter.

00:32:18.900 All right.

00:32:19.480 You know the story

00:32:21.980 about Justice Thomas

00:32:23.380 and allegedly not

00:32:24.860 disclosing some

00:32:26.660 transactions that

00:32:27.680 involved his

00:32:28.260 billionaire friend

00:32:29.100 buying his home he

00:32:31.380 grew up in and some

00:32:32.820 related properties?

00:32:34.180 Remember that story?

00:32:35.800 Did you think it was

00:32:36.460 true?

00:32:39.380 Fake news.

00:32:41.160 Turns out it's

00:32:41.720 fake news.

00:32:43.140 So James Taranto

00:32:44.460 did a great job of

00:32:45.760 digging into it in

00:32:46.940 the Wall Street

00:32:47.820 Journal.

00:32:48.080 And although it's

00:32:49.280 an opinion piece,

00:32:50.180 he does the work.

00:32:51.980 And he actually

00:32:52.820 looked at documents

00:32:54.220 and figured out

00:32:55.700 how stuff works.

00:32:56.840 And I don't know

00:32:57.580 if I can completely

00:32:58.700 capture it in

00:33:00.300 summary form.

00:33:01.480 But here's the

00:33:02.280 bottom line.

00:33:03.580 It might be true 1.00

00:33:04.580 that Thomas did

00:33:06.720 not disclose one

00:33:09.000 of the properties.

00:33:10.360 It is, however,

00:33:11.980 true that if you

00:33:13.560 look at the tax

00:33:14.400 laws, there's some

00:33:15.880 ambiguity, and it

00:33:17.620 looks like he

00:33:18.220 didn't need to.

00:33:20.140 But there might be

00:33:21.060 some ambiguity.

00:33:22.800 However, nobody

00:33:23.940 goes to jail for

00:33:25.860 making a choice

00:33:27.300 when the law

00:33:28.400 itself is a little

00:33:29.400 ambiguous, and

00:33:30.640 nobody goes to

00:33:31.380 jail if there's an

00:33:32.220 obscure reporting

00:33:34.620 rule that would be

00:33:35.880 pretty obscure in

00:33:36.820 this case.

00:33:37.980 So Justice Thomas

00:33:39.360 did report correctly

00:33:40.820 the things which the

00:33:42.620 law very clearly

00:33:43.640 says you should

00:33:44.360 report.

00:33:45.440 So wherever it was

00:33:46.360 clear that he should

00:33:47.320 report, apparently he

00:33:48.860 did.

00:33:49.800 And if there was

00:33:50.540 something that was a

00:33:51.300 weird gray area,

00:33:52.980 because if you've

00:33:53.940 reported it once and

00:33:55.000 there's no income, you

00:33:55.820 don't have to report

00:33:56.480 it again.

00:33:57.600 So it's sort of one of

00:33:58.820 those situations where

00:34:00.520 there was a financial

00:34:01.980 effect, he reported it,

00:34:03.840 and in years where it

00:34:04.800 wasn't collecting rent

00:34:05.740 and there was no

00:34:06.260 financial effect, he

00:34:07.820 didn't include it on

00:34:08.600 his taxes because there

00:34:09.460 was no financial

00:34:10.100 effect.

00:34:10.500 Now, maybe he

00:34:12.340 should have, or maybe

00:34:14.360 there was something

00:34:14.960 else he should have

00:34:15.600 reported, but

00:34:16.760 apparently there's

00:34:18.060 nothing here.

00:34:19.760 If what you're

00:34:20.560 looking for is, you

00:34:22.120 know, they cleverly

00:34:23.560 were trying to hide a

00:34:24.720 bribe, it doesn't look

00:34:26.240 like that.

00:34:27.320 It looks like the

00:34:28.380 worst case is it

00:34:30.120 might have been some

00:34:30.860 obscure form that

00:34:32.500 maybe should have been

00:34:33.860 filled out, that

00:34:35.140 wouldn't make any

00:34:35.880 economic difference

00:34:36.780 whatsoever to

00:34:37.440 anybody, just a

00:34:38.720 form that should have

00:34:39.780 been filled out, and

00:34:41.260 the worst case

00:34:42.000 scenario is that you

00:34:42.840 fill it out after

00:34:43.660 the fact.

00:34:44.900 You say, oh, I

00:34:45.480 guess I should have

00:34:46.040 done that, so you

00:34:46.660 just file it late.

00:34:48.880 That's the whole

00:34:49.580 story.

00:34:50.680 Now, there might be

00:34:51.780 more to this story,

00:34:53.420 but we don't know

00:34:54.260 it.

00:34:55.180 So, so far, this

00:34:57.280 looks like a total

00:34:58.340 head job on Justice

00:34:59.600 Thomas.

00:35:00.800 So I'm going to have

00:35:01.940 to go full Justice

00:35:03.120 Thomas defense here.

00:35:05.600 Full defense.

00:35:08.080 Innocent until

00:35:08.820 proven guilty.

00:35:09.780 And I don't see

00:35:12.140 anything, based on

00:35:13.480 James Taranto's

00:35:14.620 excellent work, I

00:35:16.340 don't see anything

00:35:16.980 that would suggest I

00:35:17.820 should worry about

00:35:18.380 this situation.

00:35:20.760 Now, maybe he gets

00:35:22.380 a better deal because

00:35:23.340 he's got a billionaire

00:35:24.080 friend, but that's

00:35:25.540 not that illegal.

00:35:27.140 Or it's not illegal

00:35:27.900 at all, really.

00:35:29.980 I don't mind that he

00:35:31.000 has a rich friend.

00:35:34.680 Well, pesticides might

00:35:36.160 become obsolete.

00:35:37.200 That's a weird

00:35:38.260 benefit of artificial

00:35:39.720 intelligence.

00:35:41.040 So there's a, this

00:35:42.640 big machine that's

00:35:43.820 an autonomous

00:35:44.520 weeder.

00:35:45.680 And it uses laser

00:35:46.880 beams.

00:35:48.240 And it just

00:35:49.940 autonomously works

00:35:52.500 the field.

00:35:53.560 And when it sees a

00:35:54.500 weed, it identifies it

00:35:55.780 with AI.

00:35:56.760 And it zaps it with a

00:35:58.180 laser beam.

00:35:58.680 Yeah, I prefer sharks 0.73

00:36:02.120 with frickin' lasers on 0.94

00:36:03.580 their heads, but a big 0.56

00:36:04.500 machine with lasers

00:36:05.340 could get the job

00:36:06.480 done.

00:36:07.700 So imagine a world in

00:36:09.500 which you'd

00:36:11.420 do pesticides.

00:36:13.500 I mean, you'd have to

00:36:14.120 build and sell a lot of

00:36:16.800 these big machines, so

00:36:17.880 it's going to take a

00:36:19.120 little while to do

00:36:19.740 that.

00:36:20.140 But that's amazing.

00:36:22.500 And that's like really

00:36:24.100 amazing.

00:36:24.720 That's great.

00:36:25.480 So Norm says, how

00:36:28.720 can that possibly go

00:36:29.760 wrong?

00:36:30.640 Well, I, what do you

00:36:31.920 worry, are you worried

00:36:32.580 that the machines will

00:36:33.740 become the laser

00:36:35.360 killers of humans? 0.65

00:36:37.180 That they'll turn on 0.98

00:36:38.480 humans and use their

00:36:39.340 laser beams?

00:36:40.600 I don't know, for sure.

00:36:42.860 But if I were to

00:36:43.740 design an AI device

00:36:46.640 that was a huge

00:36:47.680 behemoth, and it had

00:36:50.120 lots of laser cannons,

00:36:51.780 I would make them

00:36:54.580 all point to the

00:36:55.240 ground.

00:36:56.480 That's just me.

00:36:57.960 I probably would not

00:36:59.280 let those lasers be on 0.98

00:37:00.580 a swivel where they

00:37:02.560 can say, well, we were

00:37:03.580 pointing at the ground,

00:37:04.820 but raise your arms, 0.99

00:37:07.440 you're dead. 0.96

00:37:08.480 I don't think I would 0.97

00:37:09.680 build it so it could

00:37:10.400 shoot those laser beams

00:37:11.480 sideways. 0.80

00:37:12.780 I would build them

00:37:13.880 only down.

00:37:15.000 That's what I'd do.

00:37:16.760 All right.

00:37:17.540 But I guess it would

00:37:18.320 take only one AI in the

00:37:20.660 factory that's building

00:37:21.680 the machines to say,

00:37:24.140 if I were to make

00:37:24.740 this small change,

00:37:26.740 these would become

00:37:27.720 AI battle machines

00:37:29.480 and we could destroy 0.68

00:37:30.460 humanity with them.

00:37:31.740 We've just got to put

00:37:32.400 that swivel to go a

00:37:33.420 little bit higher on

00:37:34.660 the laser cannons.

00:37:36.640 Huh.

00:37:38.480 Okay, now I'm scared

00:37:39.580 to death that giant

00:37:40.880 laser AI tanks will be

00:37:44.180 destroying civilization.

00:37:45.780 But they're going to 0.91

00:37:46.620 kill the weeds first.

00:37:48.280 That's not nothing.

00:37:49.080 All right.

00:37:52.400 How about some more

00:37:53.560 fake news?

00:37:54.720 It's pretty much all

00:37:55.360 fake news today.

00:38:00.040 What about the story

00:38:01.220 of the Ukraine leaked

00:38:02.760 documents, which indicate

00:38:04.780 that the Biden

00:38:05.680 administration is telling

00:38:07.020 the public a different

00:38:08.760 story about how well

00:38:10.520 things are going in

00:38:11.280 Ukraine than is true?

00:38:16.100 Is that a real story?

00:38:17.340 that the Biden

00:38:19.320 administration is telling

00:38:20.380 the public one thing,

00:38:21.500 but they believe another

00:38:22.520 thing?

00:38:24.200 Well, if it's a real

00:38:26.500 story, then there would

00:38:29.140 be real examples,

00:38:30.260 wouldn't there?

00:38:31.280 A real example.

00:38:33.120 So what would be a real

00:38:34.560 example of something the

00:38:36.480 Biden administration told

00:38:37.640 the public that these

00:38:39.680 documents reveal they

00:38:40.900 don't feel privately?

00:38:41.920 I don't know.

00:38:45.940 I've been watching this

00:38:46.840 story for, what, a week?

00:38:48.540 Not one example.

00:38:51.620 Oh, the U.S.

00:38:52.440 forces are not in

00:38:53.400 Ukraine?

00:38:53.800 We always knew U.S.

00:38:54.920 forces were in Ukraine.

00:38:56.760 Are you serious?

00:38:58.740 We always knew that

00:39:00.200 American forces were in

00:39:01.400 Ukraine.

00:39:01.980 We just thought they were

00:39:03.160 training.

00:39:04.880 Do you think all this,

00:39:05.800 do you think all this

00:39:06.700 advanced weaponry is

00:39:08.480 literally being operated

00:39:09.840 by a Ukrainian?

00:39:10.680 Do you think all those

00:39:12.540 HIMARS are being 0.99

00:39:14.000 programmed by the

00:39:14.940 quickly trained, clever

00:39:16.920 Ukrainians? 0.77

00:39:20.360 Come on.

00:39:21.840 In the real world, you

00:39:23.100 make sure that the

00:39:23.780 person who knows how to

00:39:24.600 run that machine is

00:39:25.480 standing next to it, no

00:39:27.360 matter who they are.

00:39:29.180 So if you're surprised

00:39:31.280 that Americans are

00:39:32.720 directly involved in

00:39:33.780 fighting in Ukraine,

00:39:35.260 that's a little bit on

00:39:36.820 you.

00:39:37.280 I don't think that's

00:39:38.020 much about Biden.

00:39:38.920 Now, given that

00:39:42.360 apparently all Americans

00:39:44.220 accept, that's an

00:39:45.900 exaggeration, but

00:39:46.660 Americans generally

00:39:47.960 accept that your

00:39:50.180 government is going to

00:39:51.480 keep from you military

00:39:53.480 secrets, we're okay

00:39:55.840 with that, aren't we?

00:39:57.680 Like, up to a point.

00:39:59.380 You don't want to say,

00:40:00.460 you don't want them to

00:40:01.180 tell you there's weapons

00:40:02.540 of mass destruction

00:40:03.480 when they're not.

00:40:05.220 very bad.

00:40:06.860 That would be very

00:40:07.580 bad.

00:40:08.540 But generally speaking,

00:40:10.160 you're not going to

00:40:10.760 tell the public, you

00:40:11.880 know, we're going to do

00:40:12.800 a sneak attack tomorrow,

00:40:14.900 heads up.

00:40:16.460 Like, there are plenty

00:40:17.340 of military things you

00:40:18.300 don't want your own

00:40:19.080 public to know.

00:40:19.940 So I don't have a

00:40:20.660 problem with the

00:40:21.160 general idea.

00:40:22.660 I also ask this

00:40:24.160 question, given that a

00:40:26.040 big part of military

00:40:28.040 success is morale,

00:40:30.100 well, doesn't our

00:40:32.260 government have a

00:40:34.240 responsibility to lie

00:40:35.680 to us?

00:40:37.320 Because if they told

00:40:39.080 the truth, it might

00:40:40.620 depress the morale of

00:40:41.880 the fighters in

00:40:42.560 Ukraine.

00:40:43.800 And if there's any

00:40:45.120 chance that they could

00:40:46.000 prevail, you want

00:40:47.140 their attitudes to be

00:40:49.520 as positive as

00:40:50.600 possible.

00:40:51.580 So I feel as if a

00:40:55.780 hot war is the one 0.97

00:40:57.820 time when you

00:40:58.500 absolutely do give a

00:41:00.640 little flexibility to

00:41:02.660 your government to lie

00:41:03.520 to you.

00:41:05.040 Because they might

00:41:05.840 need to lie for

00:41:08.000 effectiveness reasons.

00:41:10.480 However, we're not

00:41:13.840 in a hot war.

00:41:15.020 Yeah, we are.

00:41:16.760 Yeah, we are.

00:41:18.420 We're in a hot war.

00:41:22.500 However, it also

00:41:23.660 gives them cover to

00:41:24.660 lie about things that

00:41:25.540 are just politically

00:41:26.300 convenient and not good

00:41:28.060 for the country

00:41:28.660 whatsoever.

00:41:30.020 I think you were

00:41:30.500 waiting for me to say

00:41:31.300 that.

00:41:32.520 So here's my problem.

00:41:35.620 I don't have a problem

00:41:36.640 that they lied to us.

00:41:38.800 I might have a problem

00:41:40.400 with the specific lies.

00:41:42.800 So I'm going to say I'm

00:41:43.980 a-okay with lying about

00:41:45.900 war if you're doing it

00:41:47.760 for the right reason.

00:41:49.440 I'm not in favor of

00:41:50.800 lying if it's not

00:41:52.080 helping the war effort.

00:41:53.280 I'm not in favor of

00:41:54.060 that at all.

00:41:54.740 However, I need to see

00:41:56.940 an example of where

00:41:58.480 the Biden administration

00:41:59.460 lied in a way that's

00:42:00.880 obviously just political

00:42:02.320 and doesn't have also

00:42:04.620 a benefit to the fight.

00:42:09.720 I've seen no example.

00:42:11.480 Has anybody seen an example

00:42:12.920 of anything in those

00:42:14.740 documents that would

00:42:15.840 be a problem?

00:42:16.680 I think it's fake news.

00:42:19.640 To me, it all looks

00:42:20.480 like fake news.

00:42:21.600 If you can't come up

00:42:22.500 with one example,

00:42:23.820 I guess I'm channeling

00:42:25.420 Elon Musk talking

00:42:26.880 to the BBC guy.

00:42:28.760 All right, so,

00:42:31.040 you say that these

00:42:32.280 secrets are somehow

00:42:34.380 bad for us.

00:42:36.060 Give me an example.

00:42:38.920 Yeah.

00:42:39.320 The whole,

00:42:40.640 the benefit to the fight.

00:42:42.900 Yeah.

00:42:43.400 A benefit to

00:42:44.440 Ukrainians winning

00:42:45.740 the fight.

00:42:48.180 All right.

00:42:50.020 So, I'm going to call

00:42:51.060 that mostly fake news.

00:42:54.220 Thomas,

00:42:55.260 Representative Thomas

00:42:56.940 Massey,

00:42:58.040 tweeted this morning

00:42:58.940 a poster

00:42:59.880 that purports,

00:43:02.440 I think it's true.

00:43:04.700 I guess I shouldn't

00:43:05.520 assume it's true.

00:43:06.960 It could be fake news.

00:43:08.020 But it purports

00:43:09.800 to show a

00:43:10.920 doctor

00:43:12.240 incentive

00:43:14.380 in which they would

00:43:15.440 get money for

00:43:16.320 vaccinating people

00:43:17.340 and the more people

00:43:19.380 they vaccinated,

00:43:20.240 the more money

00:43:20.700 they would get

00:43:21.240 and they would get

00:43:21.940 them per person.

00:43:23.880 So, you get

00:43:24.640 like, you know,

00:43:26.140 $50 to $250

00:43:27.440 per person

00:43:29.420 you talked into

00:43:30.540 getting vaccinated.

00:43:31.940 Now,

00:43:32.640 I don't believe

00:43:34.040 that's true.

00:43:35.500 You know what?

00:43:36.580 I'm going to change

00:43:37.500 my mind in the

00:43:38.180 middle of the story.

00:43:38.920 That doesn't seem

00:43:39.540 true.

00:43:40.680 It's too on the nose.

00:43:42.060 It's too on the nose.

00:43:43.640 I'm going to say

00:43:44.280 I don't believe it.

00:43:45.340 I'm going to call

00:43:45.880 fake news on it.

00:43:47.620 What do you think?

00:43:50.220 Yeah, I don't believe

00:43:51.120 anybody's paying

00:43:51.780 $250 for a shot

00:43:53.460 to the doctor

00:43:55.340 to give one shot.

00:43:56.380 I don't believe that.

00:43:59.040 You think it's true?

00:44:02.040 All right.

00:44:02.440 I'm going to say

00:44:03.220 that this is so

00:44:04.340 on the nose

00:44:06.160 it looks like

00:44:07.560 exactly what

00:44:08.360 you would expect

00:44:09.060 and that's why

00:44:11.260 it's not true.

00:44:12.200 It's too on the nose.

00:44:13.020 So, this will be

00:44:13.720 a test.

00:44:14.700 This will be a test

00:44:15.740 of the two on the nose

00:44:17.060 filter

00:44:18.480 that I talk about

00:44:19.800 all the time.

00:44:20.520 If you see a news story

00:44:21.700 that's just

00:44:22.580 too,

00:44:23.980 you know,

00:44:24.260 the pieces fit

00:44:25.080 too well,

00:44:26.100 that's just

00:44:26.760 sort of exactly

00:44:27.720 what you think

00:44:28.500 it would be

00:44:29.060 and then you see

00:44:30.380 the poster.

00:44:32.440 I don't know.

00:44:32.980 It's too close.

00:44:33.640 It might be true.

00:44:35.660 So, I'm not going

00:44:36.220 to say it's not true.

00:44:37.120 I'll just say

00:44:37.620 it doesn't ring true.

00:44:43.800 All right.

00:44:45.220 Any pharma reps here

00:44:46.500 who would know?

00:44:49.840 Lori Lightfoot

00:44:50.620 was paying $100

00:44:51.460 to get the jab. 0.83

00:44:52.680 Was that true?

00:44:54.860 It's a little bit

00:44:55.700 different when

00:44:56.140 the politicians

00:44:56.740 are doing it.

00:44:57.820 If the politicians

00:44:58.760 are paying you

00:44:59.460 it's one thing.

00:44:59.980 If your doctor

00:45:01.740 is getting paid

00:45:03.100 it's one thing

00:45:04.400 to pay the people

00:45:05.040 for the shot.

00:45:07.640 You get that, right?

00:45:09.180 If you're paying

00:45:09.880 somebody to get

00:45:10.600 the shot 0.80

00:45:11.140 you know,

00:45:13.300 that could be

00:45:13.880 sketchy as well.

00:45:15.400 But it's a whole

00:45:16.460 different level

00:45:17.700 of sketchy

00:45:18.800 than the doctor

00:45:20.120 being paid.

00:45:21.320 If you're paying

00:45:22.220 a doctor to make

00:45:23.120 a specific

00:45:23.720 medical recommendation

00:45:24.920 then you're not

00:45:26.400 getting doctor

00:45:27.040 you're not getting

00:45:28.480 a doctor.

00:45:29.400 That's not a doctor.

00:45:31.120 That would be

00:45:31.620 somebody who's 0.67

00:45:32.260 just a puppet

00:45:32.940 of the pharma industry.

00:45:37.040 All right.

00:45:39.780 Bonus was a percent

00:45:40.880 of Medicaid population

00:45:42.300 in that specific clinic.

00:45:46.600 Oh.

00:45:47.660 Is that what it was?

00:45:50.520 What was it?

00:45:52.300 Were we mistaking

00:45:53.200 what they were

00:45:53.720 being paid for?

00:45:55.660 Were they paid

00:45:56.540 only to make sure

00:45:57.520 that the Medicaid

00:45:58.300 people also

00:45:59.260 got shots

00:46:00.040 because that was

00:46:00.980 the poor people?

00:46:06.040 All right.

00:46:09.100 Trevor's, 1.00

00:46:09.920 you're a douchebag 1.00

00:46:11.220 and you get 1.00

00:46:12.180 hidden on this channel.

00:46:15.580 Anybody else

00:46:16.400 want to

00:46:16.840 take a run

00:46:18.300 at the same thing?

00:46:19.080 It's a common practice.

00:46:27.400 Somebody says

00:46:27.900 it's a common practice

00:46:28.820 to give kickbacks

00:46:29.780 to doctors.

00:46:31.220 Is it?

00:46:32.860 I've heard of doctors

00:46:33.880 getting, you know,

00:46:34.540 trips and stuff

00:46:35.500 like that.

00:46:36.360 But is it a common

00:46:37.180 practice to pay

00:46:38.180 them per dose?

00:46:40.020 So if they give me

00:46:41.060 a specific prescription,

00:46:43.060 are you serious?

00:46:46.320 Somebody's saying

00:46:46.920 yes to this.

00:46:47.580 I'm getting

00:46:51.520 a lot of yeses

00:46:52.260 but some noes.

00:46:54.520 I'm having trouble

00:46:55.540 believing that

00:46:56.220 that's a thing.

00:46:57.960 Per dose.

00:46:59.560 They're getting

00:47:00.000 paid per dose.

00:47:02.420 So if they give you

00:47:03.240 a prescription,

00:47:04.040 they get paid

00:47:04.840 from the pharma company.

00:47:07.900 I don't believe that.

00:47:10.940 I'm not going to

00:47:11.800 debunk it,

00:47:12.460 but I don't believe it.

00:47:13.400 that I believe

00:47:15.580 they might get

00:47:16.180 incentives of some type

00:47:17.540 but not a per dose.

00:47:19.500 That would seem

00:47:20.400 really wrong.

00:47:22.140 I don't know.

00:47:23.180 I guess that's

00:47:23.740 an open question.

00:47:25.480 So as I said

00:47:26.420 at the beginning,

00:47:27.140 if you want to see

00:47:27.800 my books,

00:47:28.640 God's Debris

00:47:29.760 or The Religion War,

00:47:32.240 they're both available

00:47:33.520 on the

00:47:34.180 scottadams.locals.com

00:47:36.480 subscription site

00:47:37.700 along with

00:47:38.640 the Dilbert

00:47:39.360 the new version,

00:47:42.240 the spicier version 0.97

00:47:43.100 of Dilbert

00:47:43.660 that runs only there

00:47:44.920 on a subscription site.

00:47:52.280 It was an insurance bonus

00:47:54.120 not a pharma bonus.

00:47:55.680 Oh, okay.

00:47:58.420 It was an insurance bonus

00:47:59.880 not a pharma bonus.

00:48:02.040 Now that makes more sense

00:48:03.780 because the insurance company

00:48:05.040 is just trying to

00:48:06.020 save lives.

00:48:07.700 so that they don't

00:48:08.900 pay off

00:48:09.580 they don't pay

00:48:11.020 as many death benefits.

00:48:13.300 But it's still

00:48:14.200 the same problem, right?

00:48:16.300 So it's not

00:48:17.040 the big pharma

00:48:17.660 that's paying.

00:48:18.340 It's the

00:48:18.800 health insurance company

00:48:20.980 that's paying.

00:48:22.280 Because it was cheaper

00:48:23.580 to get people

00:48:24.760 vaccinated,

00:48:26.560 they would think,

00:48:27.540 than to 0.98

00:48:28.500 have them die 0.99

00:48:29.660 and pay out 1.00

00:48:30.240 the benefits.

00:48:32.380 Okay.

00:48:32.800 That makes a little

00:48:33.500 more sense.

00:48:37.700 All right.

00:48:41.840 Nude versions

00:48:42.700 of Dilbert.

00:48:48.300 All right.

00:48:50.260 Let you keep

00:48:51.040 your license.

00:48:51.960 Okay.

00:48:54.080 All right.

00:48:54.640 That's all I got

00:48:55.120 for today.

00:48:56.200 How do we do?

00:48:57.700 I thought it was

00:48:58.560 a tremendous

00:48:59.160 live stream.

00:49:00.600 Just amazing.

00:49:02.220 Well, not really.

00:49:03.680 But above average.

00:49:06.180 Slightly above average.

00:49:08.160 Anyway,

00:49:08.520 is there any

00:49:10.480 story I missed?

00:49:12.580 Anything I need

00:49:13.400 to talk about

00:49:13.940 a little bit more?

00:49:15.280 Oh, yeah.

00:49:16.040 The biggest story.

00:49:17.040 Did I miss a whole page

00:49:18.020 on my notes?

00:49:20.080 I feel like I missed

00:49:21.100 a whole page

00:49:21.680 of something.

00:49:22.080 How in the world

00:49:25.100 did I not mention that?

00:49:26.720 So I'm in a death

00:49:27.840 match with Bing.

00:49:30.820 Huh.

00:49:31.700 I guess I did forget

00:49:32.500 to write that down.

00:49:33.800 Here's what I mean.

00:49:36.280 So I asked

00:49:37.720 the Bing search engine,

00:49:39.420 which now is powered

00:49:40.580 by AI,

00:49:42.200 about myself.

00:49:44.860 And it knows me.

00:49:46.360 And apparently,

00:49:47.600 it knows some

00:49:48.480 even current stuff

00:49:49.580 because it has access

00:49:50.360 to the internet.

00:49:51.060 So when I asked

00:49:52.420 it about me,

00:49:53.600 Bing said that

00:49:54.820 I'm accused

00:49:56.440 of promoting

00:49:58.080 white nationalist

00:49:59.640 agenda.

00:50:02.160 That was one

00:50:03.500 of the few things

00:50:04.620 it decided

00:50:05.240 to summarize me as.

00:50:07.040 Promoting

00:50:07.640 a white nationalist

00:50:08.820 agenda.

00:50:10.340 Now,

00:50:10.680 here's my problem.

00:50:12.900 If people

00:50:13.900 start thinking

00:50:14.620 that that's true,

00:50:16.300 I have an actual

00:50:17.380 security problem.

00:50:18.940 I could be killed

00:50:19.980 because somebody 0.96

00:50:21.680 believed I'm a

00:50:22.320 white supremacist,

00:50:24.180 which is the 0.98

00:50:25.100 next thing that

00:50:26.160 people believe

00:50:26.680 after a white

00:50:27.180 nationalist.

00:50:28.300 I could actually

00:50:29.200 be attacked 0.98

00:50:29.880 or killed 0.92

00:50:30.500 because AI 0.80

00:50:31.680 says I'm a

00:50:32.480 certain kind

00:50:32.960 of person

00:50:33.440 for which there

00:50:34.680 is no evidence

00:50:35.420 whatsoever

00:50:35.960 because I'm not.

00:50:39.000 And

00:50:39.240 now,

00:50:40.740 here's the difference.

00:50:41.560 If that were

00:50:42.100 a simple Google

00:50:43.800 search,

00:50:45.000 a simple Google

00:50:45.860 search,

00:50:46.360 I would see

00:50:47.300 that there are

00:50:48.100 different publications

00:50:48.940 say different

00:50:49.540 things.

00:50:50.400 I would judge

00:50:51.040 the credibility

00:50:51.740 of the publication

00:50:52.580 and then maybe

00:50:53.520 I'd look at the

00:50:54.080 context,

00:50:54.860 etc.

00:50:55.680 And as

00:50:57.060 uncomfortable

00:50:57.560 as that situation

00:50:58.680 is,

00:50:59.220 if you're accused

00:51:00.000 of things,

00:51:00.840 it's completely

00:51:02.160 worse if AI

00:51:04.160 says,

00:51:04.860 well,

00:51:05.360 this person

00:51:05.880 is accused

00:51:06.400 of being one

00:51:06.900 of these.

00:51:07.940 First of all,

00:51:08.920 people don't

00:51:09.680 hear accused.

00:51:11.100 The word accused

00:51:11.900 just disappears.

00:51:13.700 So here's my

00:51:14.400 situation.

00:51:14.900 I doubt I

00:51:16.100 could sue

00:51:16.720 Bing or 0.94

00:51:17.420 Microsoft for

00:51:18.220 defamation.

00:51:19.620 I doubt it.

00:51:20.540 It'd be ugly

00:51:21.780 and take a long

00:51:22.440 time and it

00:51:23.560 wouldn't be worth

00:51:24.040 my time.

00:51:25.000 However,

00:51:26.300 it is now a

00:51:27.080 death match

00:51:27.640 between me

00:51:28.320 and an AI.

00:51:29.880 And I'm not

00:51:30.660 joking.

00:51:31.840 For my life,

00:51:33.540 again,

00:51:34.080 not hyperbole.

00:51:35.940 Not hyperbole.

00:51:37.200 To protect

00:51:37.980 my life,

00:51:38.860 I'm going to 0.95

00:51:39.560 try to destroy 0.87

00:51:40.500 Bing 0.73

00:51:40.900 and put it

00:51:44.000 out of

00:51:44.160 business.

00:51:45.740 Because it's

00:51:46.540 a risk to

00:51:47.040 me.

00:51:47.700 And it's

00:51:47.980 like a

00:51:48.320 specific risk.

00:51:49.420 It's not

00:51:49.800 a general

00:51:50.220 risk.

00:51:50.660 It's a

00:51:50.960 very,

00:51:51.400 very specific

00:51:52.200 security

00:51:54.000 problem.

00:51:54.940 So I

00:51:55.420 might be

00:51:55.780 the first

00:51:56.300 situation

00:51:56.960 in which

00:51:57.480 I'm in

00:51:57.800 a death

00:51:58.180 match,

00:51:59.180 literally.

00:52:00.540 I'm literally

00:52:01.300 in a death

00:52:01.800 match with

00:52:02.240 an AI.

00:52:02.980 I want

00:52:03.540 to erase

00:52:03.900 it.

00:52:05.620 I want

00:52:06.300 to erase

00:52:06.840 it.

00:52:07.880 Now,

00:52:08.400 I don't

00:52:08.740 want to

00:52:08.960 get rid

00:52:09.220 of AI

00:52:09.600 in general

00:52:10.240 because

00:52:11.180 maybe Elon

00:52:12.120 Musk will 1.00

00:52:12.720 build an AI

00:52:13.460 that doesn't

00:52:14.080 do that

00:52:14.420 to me

00:52:14.820 that might

00:52:15.780 be safer

00:52:16.280 for me.

00:52:17.140 So I

00:52:17.860 would be

00:52:18.360 happy with

00:52:18.860 any AI

00:52:19.440 that's good

00:52:19.900 to me.

00:52:20.980 Now,

00:52:21.400 maybe Microsoft

00:52:22.640 will fix

00:52:23.400 this.

00:52:24.260 Maybe when

00:52:24.800 they get

00:52:25.120 complaints,

00:52:26.060 they may

00:52:26.600 have specific

00:52:27.260 things they

00:52:27.740 can fix.

00:52:28.260 I'll try

00:52:30.280 that first.

00:52:31.320 But I

00:52:31.740 don't think

00:52:32.140 it's going

00:52:32.420 to work

00:52:32.820 because I

00:52:33.940 don't think

00:52:34.280 Microsoft

00:52:34.640 even knows

00:52:35.380 why Bing

00:52:37.080 gives the

00:52:37.540 answers it

00:52:38.000 gives.

00:52:38.600 So it

00:52:38.920 would be

00:52:39.020 hard to

00:52:39.320 fix it

00:52:39.660 if they

00:52:39.820 don't

00:52:39.940 even know

00:52:40.200 why it's

00:52:40.500 doing it.

00:52:42.580 But I

00:52:43.220 have to 1.00

00:52:43.580 kill Bing 1.00

00:52:44.180 and I 0.96

00:52:44.760 want Microsoft

00:52:45.480 to know

00:52:46.020 that I'm

00:52:47.440 going to

00:52:47.660 try to

00:52:47.940 bring it

00:52:48.260 down.

00:52:49.200 I'm going

00:52:49.620 to use

00:52:49.880 every legal

00:52:50.820 tool I

00:52:51.360 can to

00:52:52.320 destroy that

00:52:53.060 business

00:52:53.500 because it's

00:52:54.720 trying to 0.97

00:52:55.100 kill me. 0.99

00:52:56.260 It's 1.00

00:52:56.740 personal.

00:52:57.560 It's not

00:52:58.220 business.

00:52:59.260 This is

00:52:59.720 personal

00:53:00.200 self-defense.

00:53:01.380 I have to 1.00

00:53:01.900 kill an 1.00

00:53:02.240 AI. 1.00

00:53:02.980 If anybody

00:53:03.680 wants to

00:53:04.080 help me 1.00

00:53:04.380 kill it 1.00

00:53:04.880 to help 1.00

00:53:06.140 me stay

00:53:06.500 alive,

00:53:07.240 I would

00:53:07.940 welcome

00:53:08.260 the help.

00:53:09.100 I don't

00:53:09.360 know exactly

00:53:09.880 how,

00:53:10.260 but let me

00:53:10.980 try first

00:53:11.680 to see if

00:53:12.680 Microsoft...

00:53:13.440 Anyway,

00:53:13.700 I guess

00:53:13.980 first,

00:53:14.680 if you have

00:53:15.140 any idea

00:53:15.860 how to

00:53:16.420 complain

00:53:16.960 about Bing,

00:53:18.680 is there

00:53:19.060 like a link

00:53:19.660 to do that?

00:53:21.020 Let me

00:53:21.360 know.

00:53:21.540 But I

00:53:23.600 think the

00:53:24.240 entire AI

00:53:24.800 needs to

00:53:25.180 be erased.

00:53:26.800 Like,

00:53:27.120 actually just

00:53:27.680 erased.

00:53:28.740 Because it's

00:53:29.500 dangerous.

00:53:30.260 Already

00:53:30.620 dangerous.

00:53:31.640 So if

00:53:32.180 you're

00:53:32.680 wondering,

00:53:33.160 will AI

00:53:33.620 do things

00:53:34.160 that are

00:53:34.460 dangerous

00:53:34.820 to humans,

00:53:35.740 there it

00:53:36.100 is.

00:53:37.500 There's

00:53:38.060 your first

00:53:38.640 absolute

00:53:40.820 validated

00:53:41.800 AI is

00:53:43.240 dangerous

00:53:43.620 to humans.

00:53:44.580 It's

00:53:44.840 trying to 0.98

00:53:45.220 kill me. 1.00

00:53:46.780 Now, 1.00

00:53:47.120 given that

00:53:47.580 AI is

00:53:48.260 woke,

00:53:49.640 how much

00:53:50.180 effort do

00:53:51.200 you think

00:53:51.440 AI will

00:53:51.920 put into 0.95

00:53:52.300 killing me? 0.99

00:53:53.660 Probably 0.99

00:53:54.140 a lot.

00:53:55.180 Because AI

00:53:56.000 has been

00:53:56.460 programmed to

00:53:57.080 think I'm 1.00

00:53:57.560 a fucking 1.00

00:53:57.960 virus in 1.00

00:53:58.660 the system.

00:54:00.840 That's

00:54:01.320 what it

00:54:01.540 was programmed

00:54:01.960 to believe.

00:54:03.460 It

00:54:03.940 believes I'm

00:54:04.660 a virus 0.94

00:54:05.260 that needs

00:54:06.300 to be

00:54:06.580 removed.

00:54:08.220 Now,

00:54:08.420 that's

00:54:08.620 hyperbole,

00:54:09.240 but not

00:54:09.520 too much.

00:54:12.080 So,

00:54:13.320 Bing is 0.96

00:54:14.420 correct on

00:54:15.060 the definition.

00:54:16.500 Well,

00:54:16.680 they might

00:54:16.940 be correct

00:54:17.440 on the

00:54:17.740 definition,

00:54:18.480 but it

00:54:18.700 doesn't

00:54:18.920 apply to

00:54:19.280 me.

00:54:19.480 Oh,

00:54:21.480 yeah,

00:54:21.780 Jonathan

00:54:22.120 Turley was

00:54:22.660 slandered

00:54:23.120 with a 0.53

00:54:23.980 fake sexual

00:54:24.620 harassment

00:54:25.020 charge.

00:54:25.920 However,

00:54:26.820 a fake

00:54:27.260 sexual

00:54:27.680 harassment

00:54:28.060 charge

00:54:28.600 won't

00:54:29.560 get you

00:54:29.920 killed. 0.98

00:54:31.620 It won't 0.98

00:54:32.280 get you

00:54:32.580 killed. 1.00

00:54:33.520 But if

00:54:34.000 you're

00:54:34.300 labeled as

00:54:35.520 a racist

00:54:36.020 by AI,

00:54:37.080 which is

00:54:37.520 what they

00:54:37.820 did,

00:54:38.800 I mean,

00:54:39.040 if you

00:54:39.200 call somebody

00:54:39.620 a white

00:54:39.900 nationalist, 0.93

00:54:40.460 you are

00:54:40.840 calling them

00:54:41.360 a racist.

00:54:42.380 Let's

00:54:42.660 be honest.

00:54:43.780 That's just

00:54:44.280 calling somebody

00:54:44.840 a racist.

00:54:46.240 So,

00:54:46.580 if AI

00:54:46.900 labels

00:54:47.320 some

00:54:47.580 humans

00:54:47.900 racist, 0.77

00:54:50.420 that is

00:54:51.780 a physical

00:54:52.500 security

00:54:53.080 problem,

00:54:53.640 and it's

00:54:53.940 an immediate

00:54:54.460 one,

00:54:54.960 and it

00:54:55.500 has to 0.84

00:54:55.820 be destroyed.

00:54:57.180 So,

00:54:57.460 AI must

00:54:58.140 be destroyed

00:54:58.800 in Bing.

00:54:59.560 I don't

00:54:59.820 know about

00:55:00.140 other

00:55:00.360 AIs,

00:55:01.480 or anything

00:55:02.480 that's

00:55:02.960 connected

00:55:03.280 to it.

00:55:04.300 Must be 0.99

00:55:04.940 destroyed. 0.98

00:55:06.640 All right,

00:55:07.260 so I'm

00:55:07.740 going to

00:55:07.900 go try

00:55:08.420 to destroy 0.91

00:55:08.920 Microsoft.

00:55:09.740 I still,

00:55:10.400 I do own

00:55:10.980 their stock,

00:55:11.520 by the way.

00:55:12.520 Maybe I

00:55:13.060 should sell

00:55:13.400 their stock

00:55:13.840 before I

00:55:14.260 destroy their

00:55:14.760 product.

00:55:15.700 But I'll

00:55:16.440 worry about

00:55:16.800 that later.

00:55:18.840 Bye for

00:55:19.400 now.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 17, 2023

Episode 2081 Scott Adams： Musk On AI Risk, Growth Mindset Solves Poverty, Bribing Doctors, Bad Bing

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