Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2090 Scott Adams： RFK Jr. Is The New Persuasion Leader, Tucker Is Right About Everything

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00:01:18.720 relationships way better all right what's going on we have a new persuasion leader so yesterday i

00:01:29.500 listened to a radio interview joel pollack for breitbart radio was interviewing rfk jr

00:01:36.540 and i did not know how good he was at this persuasion stuff he's really good he's better

00:01:46.580 than trump now trump trump trump is a singular character who cannot be imitated right so there's

00:01:54.120 no other trump trump is just himself so i can't you can't exactly compare them but i will say that

00:02:02.720 rfk jr has uh one thing that trump absolutely does not have which is the ability to say things that

00:02:13.180 both sides like trump is the ultimate warrior for your team uh rfk jr looks like he's actually

00:02:22.380 trying to bring the country together now let me tell you some of the things he said on this interview

00:02:27.160 i was taking a walk while i was listening and i just stopped walking when i heard this

00:02:33.280 see if the see if this hits you the same way

00:02:35.840 so uh joel pollack it was a great interview he did an amazing job of asking the right questions and

00:02:43.560 then getting out of the way letting him talk and one of the questions was about how could he

00:02:49.580 bring the country together and reduce the amount of division in the country

00:02:54.380 now how would you answer that question i've thought about this so much i thought well how if i were running

00:03:03.520 like what would i say and i i've never thought of anything i've honestly never thought of anything

00:03:09.300 that would be an answer to that question and at rfk jr answers the question of how he would create

00:03:16.360 more unity in the country he says well we'd start by not lying to the citizens

00:03:23.320 what did you really say that what

00:03:31.860 oh my god

00:03:36.060 now you can argue lots of things right you could say

00:03:41.060 oh he doesn't mean it it's a political thing right okay um or he might mean it but he can't execute

00:03:48.820 it right it won't make any difference but have you ever heard a better answer that's the better

00:03:54.800 answer that's the best answer to that question i've ever heard if you stopped lying to people

00:04:00.360 what would happen well if you stopped lying presumably we'd all think the problem was the same problem

00:04:07.980 we wouldn't think the problem was each other

00:04:10.780 part of the lie is that you know the problem is each other that's not exactly the problem you know

00:04:21.140 maybe we have external problems that we should all get together and work on so you might recognize

00:04:27.440 this persuasion technique it's the high ground that's the high ground when i talk about the high

00:04:34.720 ground maneuver and persuasion it's the one that stops the conversation so there's not much you

00:04:41.280 can say after it's been stated it's like how would you bring the country together well i would start by

00:04:48.040 not lying to the citizens okay uh and my my problem with that would be i got nothing i got nothing

00:04:59.820 and i don't believe that there are uh claims against rfk jr that he's lied i mean every public

00:05:09.360 figure is going to have some kind of claims but i don't believe anybody says he's a liar so when he

00:05:14.660 says i'm gonna you know tell you the truth it does look like he has some sense that there's a truth

00:05:22.340 that's independent from politics he actually sells that idea that there might be a truth that's

00:05:28.360 independent from the two teams oh my god did i like hearing that all right here's something else

00:05:34.120 he talks about i thought his uh i thought his toughest challenge was going to be explaining his

00:05:42.940 vaccination stand because his own party is pro-vaccination and he's he's at least known

00:05:51.040 reputationally as the person who's uh talked the most about the risks of vaccinations so you think

00:05:58.740 that would be bad but in the covid vaccinations he's pretty close to the republican view that they

00:06:06.100 weren't tested enough right so he's got the republican side agreeing with him now how in the world could he

00:06:14.640 convince democrats the vaccinations were maybe riskier than they thought how in the world could

00:06:21.180 you do that it's impossible right i mean the we're talking about the childhood vaccinations not just

00:06:27.220 covid so here's how he did it in like one minute he said when i was a kid i got three vaccinations now

00:06:35.620 the kid today will get 72 and i said what what is that true and i i think three was about the right

00:06:48.120 number when i was a kid and i thought that's actually true 72 but then i thought oh okay right

00:06:55.460 that's a little alarmist isn't it because you know you know the 72 if there are 72 i don't know

00:07:01.940 if there are 72 you know that they were tested with a randomized controlled trial you know they

00:07:08.180 waited five years before they gave it to anybody right obviously what no it turns out they didn't

00:07:16.260 do any of that it turns out when the law changed some years ago as rfk explains jr explains that when

00:07:26.700 the law changed to make their no liability for vaccinations a bunch of them were produced and

00:07:34.540 do you know what no liability would include not properly testing them it's actually legal to not

00:07:43.500 properly test your vaccinations what and specifically when i say not test them it doesn't mean there were no

00:07:52.060 tests i'm not saying there were no tests i'm saying they didn't do randomized controlled trials

00:07:58.220 and they didn't wait five years to see if there were any surprises so rfk jr's uh position is the high

00:08:07.340 ground again how in the world did he find the high ground twice when it was invisible to me and here's

00:08:14.940 the high ground i'm not saying vaccinations are bad i'm saying that they should be at least tested in a

00:08:21.260 randomized controlled trial and at least wait five years to see if there are any surprises

00:08:27.420 because that's somewhat not strange for there to be a surprise in five years now who argues with that

00:08:37.020 nobody literally nobody he actually found the high ground where the republicans would say well yeah

00:08:44.540 that makes sense and the democrats are going to say what i thought we were already doing that

00:08:50.860 of course that makes sense how in the world did he do that what nobody else could find that all the

00:08:57.260 politicians in the world were looking for the the thing that both sides would agree with and he's

00:09:02.540 the only one who could find it twice all right how about this um then he talked about the fact that kids

00:09:11.260 are having all these chronic diseases that he'd literally never heard of when he was a kid

00:09:15.980 and i thought i've said that too haven't you noticed the same thing when i was a kid i never heard of

00:09:24.140 anybody with add maybe it existed i don't know i never heard of anybody with anxiety never heard of

00:09:31.420 anybody with autism i've never heard of it there were things that just didn't exist and now it's yeah and

00:09:38.060 trans you know uh sexual dys what's it dysphoria i get the dysmorphia and dysphoria confused i think it's dysphoria is the right word

00:09:49.660 now my one criticism is he should have mentioned diet at the same time he was speculating that

00:09:57.740 we're putting a lot of chemicals into kids at the same time that all these chronic conditions

00:10:03.180 are being surfaced that didn't exist before i don't think it's just vaccinations if vaccinations

00:10:10.380 have anything to do with it i don't know but i would like to see him say something about more about the

00:10:16.140 food system but he probably does he probably does if he asked him he'd probably say yeah that's something

00:10:21.980 to look into i i'm sure he wouldn't ignore the food system i just like to see him throw it in there

00:10:27.580 when he talks about vaccinations and chronic disease he talked about uh government by bullying being

00:10:35.020 unacceptable do you disagree do you disagree that your government should not be a bully

00:10:42.460 yeah it's high ground everybody agrees with that all right um

00:10:49.180 and then his uh his opinion on pollution and a lot of things for environment is that

00:10:57.580 the free market should figure this stuff out he's actually a free market guy so i heard something

00:11:05.340 that you know it's like oh he's going to be more environmental than maybe you think is a good

00:11:10.700 idea like you'll be too too much of an environmentalist for republicans you know republicans are like we like

00:11:16.620 the environment but just don't go crazy that's sort of the republican view and you know i worried well okay

00:11:24.860 he's never going to pass the climate change bar like you know no republican's going to be comfortable

00:11:31.980 with him on climate change or anything else but his view is that the free market should be making our

00:11:37.660 decisions not the government's and that if you allow the externalities of the businesses to be part of

00:11:45.500 their cost basis in other words instead of making the public pay for their pollution which is the current

00:11:52.860 situation you figure a way that the free market says well if you can't make a non-polluting thing

00:11:58.140 you're gonna have to pay for it and if somebody makes one a competing product that doesn't compete

00:12:03.340 that doesn't pollute well they're the winner so free market is another high ground for at least

00:12:12.620 everybody but the super progressives it's another high ground so he's finding the high grounds like

00:12:17.820 crazy i would keep an eye on him my my take on rfk junior is that the reason they had to change the

00:12:25.020 the schedule of the democrat primaries is that rfk junior would have done well in new hampshire

00:12:32.140 maybe other people too and we know that biden does not do well in new hampshire

00:12:37.100 um so moving south carolina to the first one will make biden start off with a strong state

00:12:47.180 and it'll make him look inevitable so that little change was made so basically the democrats have

00:12:52.380 already rigged yeah i would call it rigged i got some pushback on twitter when i said it was rigged and

00:12:59.580 somebody said rigged rigged you say what is wrong you tell me what's wrong with changing it from the

00:13:07.580 first primary is a is a little white state with hardly any people in it and they're going to be like

00:13:14.140 you know so influential on the whole process tell me how that's right compared to having a big state

00:13:20.140 that's got far more diversity being the most important one tell tell me why that makes sense

00:13:25.900 here was my answer didn't it always make sense did it just start making sense in 2023

00:13:35.500 i'm not i'm not arguing it doesn't make sense i i have no opinion on how the democrats hold their

00:13:41.740 primaries all i'm noting is if they had not made that change this year it would have been really bad

00:13:49.100 for the incumbent and so you know it's not a question of whether it makes sense yeah it makes

00:13:55.580 sense it kind of makes sense there's an argument for both sides you know that the retail the shake

00:14:03.100 the hands you'll look you in the eye kind of thing in new hampshire is kind of unique

00:14:07.340 but on the other hand it's a pretty white state that's a true statement too so i don't care which

00:14:13.100 way they do it it's just disingenuous to say that they were simply in 2023 they simply decided to

00:14:21.180 upgrade their system in a way that had nothing to do with who they wanted to win they were just

00:14:26.460 upgrading their system in a totally normal way that happens routinely now nothing like that happened

00:14:33.660 it's a rigged system all right legally totally legally but rigged all right um

00:14:40.060 um here's uh let's see yeah well enough about that so all the smart people in politics are saying that

00:14:51.100 biden really really wants trump to be his his opponent do you believe that do you believe that uh biden

00:15:00.620 really really wants it to be trump yeah i believe it i believe it uh because he won once that way so

00:15:10.140 he probably figures it'll happen again now do you think that trump really really really wants to run

00:15:15.820 up against biden do you think trump wants to run against biden it's kind of weird because i think the

00:15:23.020 answer is yes and so here we have all the the smartest people in politics telling you that biden

00:15:30.300 wants to run against trump because he has such an advantage but also trump wants to run against biden

00:15:36.220 because trump has such an advantage there's your experts you want to hear something else that uh rfk jr

00:15:45.900 said that just blew me the f away he said that listening to the experts is our biggest problem or

00:15:56.060 i'm paraphrasing he didn't say it's the biggest problem he said you shouldn't listen to experts

00:16:02.060 he actually said that here's what he said um he talked about some trial or some situation he was with

00:16:10.140 where they had all the best ivy league experts and they looked at the data and they came up with an

00:16:15.660 opinion and then he had a separate group who were on the other side who had the same credentials

00:16:21.420 from ivy league schools they looked at the same data and came to an opposite conclusion and he said

00:16:27.660 quite rightly if the experts look at the same data and come to opposite conclusions what good are the

00:16:33.180 experts do you disagree with that no it's the high ground again it's the high ground let me um

00:16:42.540 um talk to pj there so i'm seeing some people on youtube who maybe are less familiar with me

00:16:50.540 saying that i'm fanboying over rfk jr i'm fanboying over his talent his persuasion talent same thing i do

00:16:58.860 with trump same thing i do with the vivek we'll talk about ramaswamy in a minute uh but when they do things

00:17:08.060 that are good persuasion and good technique i'm very complimentary you should note i've said the

00:17:14.780 same thing about obama you should note i've said the same thing about bill clinton and ronald reagan

00:17:22.860 right there's some people who just have more skill so i'm talking about the skill you can make up your

00:17:28.620 own mind about the politics is that fair so the fanboying is just about the skill but that's real i'm

00:17:35.660 definitely fan fanboying over the skill all right um

00:17:45.740 so biden pushing his idea to uh you know that he hopes he's running against trump and probably will

00:17:56.060 it looks it's looking that way at this point but so biden is pushing his uh old technique because it

00:18:05.500 worked before and the old technique is to talk about uh mega extremists now i'm going to call this

00:18:12.220 the elmer fudd strategy so biden has taken on the elmer fudd strategy and it goes like this

00:18:19.500 uh i'm i'm hunting those mega extremists those wascals those mega extremists where are those mega

00:18:28.700 extremists they're all over those wascals i'm hunting them so every time i hear uh biden talk

00:18:37.500 about mega extremists i'm going to compare him to elmer fudd because he's always looking for that

00:18:43.260 rascally rabbit that he can't can't seem to shoot yeah there's all these mega extremists where are the

00:18:51.100 extremists i think there's a mega extremist under my bed is there a mega extremist under your bed

00:18:57.820 those wascals i can't even take him seriously can you i mean how in the world do you take biden

00:19:05.580 seriously somebody says he's mr magoo but i i think elmer fudd's a better because he's literally hunting

00:19:13.340 he's hunting he's hunting you know republicans as the democrats are and it's just so comically

00:19:21.900 ridiculous and absurd that he thinks the the mega extremists are the big problem in the country

00:19:29.100 if you were to make a list of the biggest problems in the country and you started at the top

00:19:35.100 most of the things on the top would be biden's fault like inflation

00:19:39.500 the war in ukraine uh yeah the the border being open fentanyl flying over almost everything that's

00:19:50.780 our biggest problems if you're going to make a list from worse worse to smallest our biggest problems

00:19:56.060 are all biden himself literally things he fucked up and he's decided that he's going to make us

00:20:02.140 concentrate on those wascally um mega extremists they're all over have you

00:20:09.260 seen them they're so dangerous those mega extremists that i've literally never met have any of you ever

00:20:17.900 met a mega extremist like actually a real one i haven't i've never met one i mean not in person i i'll

00:20:29.900 see stuff on social media and i'll go oh that looks like a little bit larping or those are just people

00:20:35.660 who like to march around with guns and talk politics i mean i know the type it's a type who likes to have

00:20:42.300 guns and they like to talk politics and they might talk politics and talk about their guns at the same time

00:20:48.780 so they look like mega extremists all right i saw a tweet

00:20:58.220 that men would rather sext a bot than go to therapy

00:21:03.340 so the question will be ai as a therapist versus a human therapist and if a man is using

00:21:09.740 uh a female voiced ai for a therapy how long before it turns sexual

00:21:19.420 because the only thing that stops men from hitting on their female therapists

00:21:25.660 in the real world is that they won't get away with it right they'll have to find a new therapist

00:21:30.060 but if your therapist is an ai you might be thinking well i could take my shot

00:21:38.060 i'll take my shot you never know maybe we become lifelong friends and companions

00:21:43.900 as bots you know we live in a strange time because there will be people falling in love with ai

00:21:50.860 you believe that right does anybody doubt that that there will be real live legitimate humans

00:21:57.180 who have financial relationship with ai you know that's coming right now you could call it a mental

00:22:04.620 disorder but you can't say it's not coming because we got a lot of mental disorders yeah that's coming

00:22:12.220 but here's what's interesting about this day in time today if you fall in love with an ai which will

00:22:18.780 definitely happen it won't have a body but you'll be at the time in history when bodies are being

00:22:26.220 invented for your ai and you will work with your ai you know the two of you will work together

00:22:32.700 toward a future where they can build your ai a body that can walk around and hang out with you

00:22:39.340 you know more than just picking up your phone maybe it can give you a back rub or something

00:22:44.300 or more i know what you're thinking yeah they put a flashlight in his mouth and you're good to go so

00:22:51.500 um you didn't hear me say that yeah anyway so i think a whole lot of lonely people are going to be

00:22:58.860 saving up money to buy a body for the ai that they fell in love with that's that's real don't you think

00:23:06.860 you don't think people will be saving up to buy a body for the ai they fell in love with

00:23:10.780 they will i guarantee you you're going to see this story in in the news in five years i guarantee

00:23:18.300 it all right let's talk about tucker carlson because everything about tucker is fun

00:23:25.020 um so the wall street journal is everybody's speculating about what was the real reason

00:23:31.340 what's the real reason the one reason that's bigger than the other reasons and i'm convinced there's not

00:23:36.220 one reason does anybody think that tucker uh got taken off the air apparently he's not fired he's

00:23:43.420 still on the payroll he just can't do a show uh does anybody think it was for one reason

00:23:50.380 because i feel like that's the worst take that there was one reason no it was like several things sort

00:23:56.380 of added up and at some point it was too much yeah the dominion thing and the advertisers weren't coming

00:24:02.620 in but they do make their money from uh cable carriers paying them to be on the air right so if

00:24:11.580 you're a cable network and you want to offer cable to your community you don't want to offer it unless

00:24:17.900 fox news is on there and cnn and you know the big ones so fox news just pays the gets paid by the cable

00:24:24.540 operators to put content on their on their pipes so they don't need advertising

00:24:32.540 per se they're getting their money from the carriage if that's a word so

00:24:40.780 um i think then the the weirdest one i heard was that uh rupert murdoch was engaged briefly for like two

00:24:48.460 weeks but the woman he was engaged to and called it off

00:24:52.620 her favorite show was tucker carlson and she thought tucker carlson was the best

00:24:57.500 and that uh maybe maybe rupert murdoch was just being small and petty and taking his uh ex-fiance's

00:25:06.140 favorite talent off the air i don't think that's it yeah yeah i don't know rupert murdoch so i can't read

00:25:15.340 his mind but i will put that at the lowest end of possibility i don't think that was part of it all

00:25:23.900 right um

00:25:27.260 but it it appears to me that tucker is right about everything

00:25:31.420 so here's some of the things that tucker told us often tucker told us that free speech was under

00:25:40.060 assault right don't you think that that was probably one of the biggest messages

00:25:45.980 he would hit in every angle in every way the free speech was under assault and what happened

00:25:53.900 he lost his platform he lost his free speech so

00:25:58.780 that kind of looks real he also seemed to agree with me but not using the word hunted

00:26:07.180 that there was clearly some kind of a trend against right-leaning people

00:26:13.900 and then his advertisers get boycotted and he's taken off the air

00:26:18.380 so he was right it was right that the people on the right are being targeted

00:26:23.820 um let's see uh let's see what else oh the other thing that tucker used to say that would drive me

00:26:31.580 crazy until i realized he was right is that democrats do whatever they accuse you of doing

00:26:38.300 so what was the main thing that tucker was accused of by his worst critics being a racist right

00:26:45.260 being like a secret racist and don lemon gets kicked out of his job

00:26:56.540 at least in part for being a racist so he said some racist stuff to vivek ramaswamy people think

00:27:04.140 that might add something to do with his getting canned but there's also the video of him talking to

00:27:08.940 chris cuomo on cnn in his other job his prior job for cnn in which he says

00:27:15.180 the biggest risk to america is uh white supremacists or basically white people it sounded like

00:27:24.300 uh and i thought well there's something you know a white man couldn't say about a black man it's

00:27:29.740 obviously racist and i thought there it is that that's the tucker carlson uh theory that they will

00:27:39.500 blame they will accuse you of being a racist if they are racist and there it was

00:27:44.940 sure enough all right uh white men are the biggest risk to the country yeah that's what don lemon said

00:27:52.780 uh then we said to vivek on his show more recently he he said to

00:27:58.540 rivet uh vivek ramaswamy when you have black skin and you live in this country then you can disagree with

00:28:04.460 me about slavery and stuff all right uh here's more from greg price talking about tucker's lawsuit

00:28:15.020 so one of his producers um is suing him for promoting a hostile work environment

00:28:22.140 uh anti-semitism uh anti-semitism and i don't even know what the accusation of that is like what

00:28:31.660 exactly would be the accusation of anti-semitism you'll probably never hear any examples of that

00:28:37.020 i'll bet yeah i'll bet you'll never hear it all right um and she she was very uncomfortable the

00:28:45.900 producer was suing him uh that tucker had so much power over politics and knew it

00:28:51.100 so tucker knew that he could influence who got elected on the republican side now is that a problem

00:28:59.100 he happened to be the most he was the most popular show among the republicans is that like a big

00:29:09.820 a surprising shocking thing that he was aware that his impact would change could change an election or

00:29:17.180 change votes that's the most obvious thing in the world of course he was aware now she claims that he

00:29:24.220 bullied people to come on the show by saying you know if you don't your career will be ruined if

00:29:30.380 you don't come on my show but that was also true wasn't it i don't know is it is it a threat i mean she

00:29:40.780 checked like it was bullying or you know sort of blackmailing him or something but is it a threat if

00:29:46.940 it's just a statement of obvious fact that if somebody doesn't come on the air to defend their point of

00:29:52.060 view then when he talks about their point of view he will not have the benefit of their defense

00:29:57.900 which is probably pretty bad for them to me that just sounds like a statement of the fact i'm going

00:30:03.020 to talk about this if you're not there to defend yourself then there won't be a defense because i don't

00:30:09.100 know what the defense is to me that sounds like telling them what their risk reward situation is what

00:30:17.500 was he supposed to do not tell the story well what was his alternative all right i'm inviting you on

00:30:23.740 to talk about this you specifically you're the one who cares you're the one who disagrees i'm inviting

00:30:29.420 you on what is he supposed to cancel the show if they say no it's still the same show he's got to do the

00:30:36.540 show so warning them that there's a downside to not showing up feels entirely fair to me although i can

00:30:44.140 see why it's coercive it's certainly coercive but it's also true and it's also fair in the sense

00:30:51.900 that you know it seems reasonable to warn somebody what the consequences are right and i would also

00:30:58.380 imagine that that's not that different than other big shows in history they probably always had that veiled

00:31:04.220 threat um and as uh greg price points out there's this big new york times article about this lawsuit

00:31:12.780 that and nowhere in the new york times coverage according to greg do they mention the following

00:31:18.620 fact remember this is a this is a producer who's suing over a hostile work environment and alleged

00:31:26.780 anti-semitism what was not mentioned is that tucker carlson has never been in the same room with her

00:31:36.060 don't you think that's important they've never been in the same room he's worked remotely from his

00:31:41.820 studios in maine and florida i guess since the beginning of the pandemic never even met now

00:31:47.900 of course they would have worked remotely a lot but never met

00:31:56.060 yeah i created a hostile podcast by using bad words too um

00:32:02.300 and then did anybody see her how many of you saw the a video of her giving an interview on msnbc or

00:32:09.900 something so her name is uh abby grossberg did anybody see it

00:32:18.380 and

00:32:20.540 did you have any uh reactions

00:32:24.460 now i'm not talking about the the fact that she has a jewish last name that is not my topic

00:32:30.620 no no no no i'm not gonna say it no it has nothing to do with her uh her uh ethnicity or background

00:32:42.460 or religion or anything so nothing about that nothing about that there wasn't something else you notice

00:32:48.220 about her i can't be the only one say it there we go there we go somebody else said it

00:32:56.860 no nothing about being jewish that's not the topic

00:33:04.540 all right so a few of you saw what i saw okay i'm not gonna say it all right um let's just say that

00:33:17.500 the way she presents herself raises some questions that's all just raises some questions all right um

00:33:31.020 here's a word salad example so i like to teach you that when people have nonsense opinions

00:33:37.900 they will devolve into word salad meaning they'll put words together but they won't actually make any

00:33:44.860 any sense i want to give you another good example of it so there's a school board director scott

00:33:52.700 clifthorn and i guess they're going to stop music instruction in part because it's

00:33:59.740 uh white supremacy uh white supremacy music music lessons in school or white supremacy and so here's

00:34:07.980 some of the things that uh the school board director said uh that some schools provide the instrument

00:34:16.380 courses at times that would require some students to miss core instruction okay so that's important i don't

00:34:24.300 know how that's a racial thing unless there's more of it in some schools than others but it's not mentioned

00:34:30.940 and then he goes on to say now listen to the listen for the word salad this is just a classic one all right

00:34:39.420 quote where a school district that lives in is entrenched in is surrounded by white supremacy culture and

00:34:48.220 that's a real thing clifthorn said and then he went on here's the word salad there's nothing

00:34:54.220 about strings or wind instrument music that is intrinsically white supremacist well that's

00:34:59.420 good that he noticed that that the that the instruments themselves are not not intrinsically

00:35:04.380 white supremacist it's good that he noted that but he goes on he goes however the ways in which it is

00:35:11.500 and the ways in which all of our institutions not just schools local government state government churches

00:35:19.020 their neighborhoods inculcate and allow white supremacy culture to continue to be propagated and

00:35:25.260 cause significant institutional violence are things that we have to think about carefully as a community

00:35:32.300 and i think that we have to do that interrogation and we have to address the ways in which it creates

00:35:37.980 challenges for administrating the educational day of our elementary learners while we while we retain the program

00:35:45.020 the program meaning the music program did any of that make any sense i don't think that made any sense

00:35:56.540 oh there's a story here

00:36:00.940 oan is making an offer some other people are making offers now i don't think i believe that uh tucker carlson

00:36:08.620 cannot entertain other offers yet because he's still an employee of fox news so fox news maintained

00:36:17.500 him as an employee they just took his show away so imagine if you were him and he can make i don't know

00:36:25.100 20 million a year or whatever it is from just staying home presumably but he can't he can't look for a new

00:36:32.540 job and he can't do anything else do you think that at his age and his level of impact he would be okay

00:36:39.980 with being prevented from doing a show somewhere else that would be an interesting negotiation

00:36:47.020 because he might have to give up some of his money you know say something like all right i won't take

00:36:55.580 40 million dollars but give me 20 million dollars but let me go get another job so fox news could save 20

00:37:03.980 million dollars potentially by saying all right we won't keep you here in limbo for two years

00:37:11.180 and you only get 20 million so we'll save half of that money

00:37:16.860 yeah we'll see

00:37:17.740 um china is uh i guess china talked to zelensky president she did and now china is going to send

00:37:27.020 some of its diplomats over there to talk to people and see if they can get this war straightened out and

00:37:33.980 solved um now do you think that china is going to broker a peace deal with ukraine and russia no

00:37:48.380 i don't think so um but it's good cover because everybody's saying that china is happy about the ukraine

00:37:55.980 russia war because it would keep america too bogged down um it'd be too expensive to protect taiwan or

00:38:03.100 something so from the chinese perspective this is good politics but i don't think it's anything else

00:38:10.700 all right let's talk about eugene carroll at her lawsuit against trump before many years ago allegedly

00:38:22.300 raping her in the dressing room of bergdorf goodman now my understanding is that the entire case revolves on

00:38:32.540 her testimony and some people at the time that she may have told the story am i right that's the only

00:38:41.420 evidence that she says it happened and that she allegedly told people at the time who were willing to testify

00:38:49.180 now is that enough i don't want to live in a world where that's enough to have a lawsuit work

00:39:00.620 you need somebody to see it you need some physical evidence you need some dna

00:39:08.300 i'm going to need a lot more than that because apparently there's a quote i don't know if this

00:39:14.140 is true but there's a quote that said she loved the apprentice if it's true if it's true that she

00:39:21.580 loved the apprentice how in the world could you get a jury to convict trump how in the world could you

00:39:30.460 get a jury to get not convict it's a i guess it's a lawsuit so a lawsuit you don't need a 12 jurors you

00:39:37.900 just need a majority right yeah maybe she'll make some money but uh i don't see how she could win

00:39:46.620 apparently the trump's defense is no defense the the case is so weak that the defense is going to say

00:39:54.300 well we'll just talk to you about your allegations and that's all we have to do you know what once

00:39:59.900 we've shown that it's just somebody talking that should be all we need all right well i don't see him

00:40:07.740 having much jeopardy for that case but it's a pain in the ass

00:40:13.100 well matt gates has become the new joe mansion and by that um as you know the

00:40:20.140 the congress is trying to figure out how to raise the debt ceiling so that we can continue borrowing

00:40:25.980 money like drunken sailors uh but the republicans are pushing back trying to guess something in exchange

00:40:33.740 for approving um all right uh so matt gates is holding off because let's see he's asking for

00:40:46.860 something uh uh uh we intend to be so republicans agreed to allow proposed work requirements for

00:40:54.700 medicaid so if you were getting medicaid you'd have some kind of work requirement

00:40:58.860 government and i guess that's something that uh matt gates is pushing for and you know i've talked

00:41:05.100 about how joe mansion really for a while anyway it seemed like he ran the country because he was the

00:41:09.740 only democrat in their thin majority well you know maybe one other but he was the one who was most likely

00:41:17.740 to vote either way so that gave him all the power everybody had to make him happy because he could go

00:41:23.260 either way the people who are just going to always vote for their team yeah and kristin cinema too so

00:41:29.340 the people are only going to vote for their team have no power they've given away all their power so matt

00:41:35.020 gates being apparently one of the smarter republicans realized that his personal ability to get things

00:41:42.700 done would be very connected to his ability to vote against his own party you know he he voted he was

00:41:49.660 going to vote against mccarthy until he got some stuff now he's doing he's pushing mccarthy again

00:41:54.700 until he gets some stuff and it looks like it might work so matt gates is the new joe mansion and i say

00:42:03.340 that as a compliment you know this is just free money it's like gates is just picking up free money

00:42:09.420 every day so all i have to do is threaten that i won't vote for this republican thing really i just have

00:42:15.820 to threaten it and then they'll give me some stuff okay you got some stuff

00:42:23.260 for the country all right i'm going to call down some fake news about joe biden so i call this semi

00:42:32.060 fake news it's something he really said but i think the context is weak so here's what he said at some

00:42:39.020 event and out loud he said um there's no such thing as someone else's child

00:42:47.180 and then the implication is no he's saying parents don't have control he's saying that the government

00:42:53.740 raises your child i don't think so that's not how i took it i took it as just a different way to say it

00:43:00.940 takes a village you know yet you need not just the parents you're going to need that the help of

00:43:07.180 other people to build good citizens which is totally true of course you're going to need

00:43:13.260 everybody to do the right thing to get good children but that doesn't take the control away from the

00:43:18.380 parents however to back your interpretation for a while it is that slippery slope problem you always

00:43:26.780 worry about right that if you're allowed to say out loud the sentence uh there's no such thing as

00:43:34.060 someone else's child which in context means that you don't ignore the fact that someone else's child

00:43:40.220 is suffering right so the context i see it is if you walked into a grocery store and you saw an

00:43:47.100 unattended toddler who is in trouble you know some kind of trouble as an adult you would stop everything

00:43:56.460 and you would help the toddler although you are not their parent right and it doesn't take anything

00:44:01.820 away from the responsibility of the parent because you don't know where they are or why they're not

00:44:05.740 there you know maybe there's some story you don't know about but you wouldn't stop

00:44:11.180 you wouldn't you wouldn't stop yourself from helping the the toddler right you're going to help the

00:44:16.060 toddler so even though it's not your kid so if the implication is we should all be helping because you know kids are

00:44:23.820 our future and parents can't do it all i like that but you could easily see this drift into the the

00:44:32.540 government is in control and you parents better do what we say you can see it drifting but i don't

00:44:39.900 think that the proper context has been put on this story so just want to give you the proper context

00:44:45.420 all right um there is some risk involved speaking of rfk jr and saying that we should tell the truth

00:44:57.660 is the problem with the uh the big explosion in trans identification especially with women apparently

00:45:08.460 young women or young girls are far more likely to identify as trans if one of their friends did

00:45:15.820 but i don't know if i don't know if that's really a causation or correlation thing because you can

00:45:20.460 imagine that people who feel a certain way end up with friends who feel a certain way so does it

00:45:27.420 really tell you anything that if the friend decides they're trans that the person who had a lot in

00:45:33.900 common with them and that's why they're friends also thinks that yes i mean peer pressure is certainly a

00:45:40.940 factor but probably not as big as it looks because there might be some kind of a filtering

00:45:47.740 thing where you just look at other people and you go i think you're one of me so i'm going to hang out

00:45:51.820 with you yeah so there's some of that but can we say the following thing without being canceled i'll try

00:46:00.700 let's see if i can say the following thing without being canceled uh gender let's see if i have the

00:46:07.980 right words gender dysphoria is a real thing does anybody disagree gender dysphoria there are people who

00:46:20.140 apparently have some genetic propensity to not be cleanly identifiable as one thing now how rare it

00:46:31.660 is isn't the next question can we say that that's real while also saying while also saying that there's

00:46:39.740 something about the topic that attracts people with mental illness to say they are also that can't we say

00:46:49.100 both can't we say that there are two problems here one is there are people who have this situation which

00:46:55.820 sounds pretty uh unpleasant and i have empathy for anybody who's got any medical problem that or anything

00:47:03.340 else but can't we also say that it's attracting a whole bunch of people who are not mentally uh as

00:47:12.860 capable as you would want them to be to make that kind of decision for themselves those both could be

00:47:19.180 true it's just that none of us know the percentages so where it gets i think where it gets obnoxious

00:47:26.940 is where you imagine you know the percentage i mean i could gas you know i could take a gas

00:47:39.260 okay so there somebody's saying that there are other lifestyle things that might come along with

00:47:45.900 gender dysphoria so there might be some lifestyle diet or other endocrine contributors i don't know i so i

00:47:56.140 i think most of us are in the dark about the you know the specific medical situation but if we if we can

00:48:02.300 all agree that there's a real thing there that real thing real people need empathy and if they're adults

00:48:10.780 anyway we would all agree that if there's some health care uh intervention that's gonna maybe make

00:48:18.060 them happier i wouldn't deny anybody the chance to try to be happier but then again the kid thing is is

00:48:25.340 different let me ask you this if i ask you the question this way i know i know the answer if i said

00:48:33.740 should minors uh make permanent decisions about transitioning you'd probably say no minors should not

00:48:45.020 right so but there are lots of situations where we

00:48:52.460 we're a little flexible about what it means to be a minor right there are things where you have to be 21

00:48:59.820 there are things where you have to be 18 but puzzlingly you could be 15 and a half and drive a car

00:49:08.380 right which is really dangerous stuff you can you know be in the military at 18 right so

00:49:15.740 you know we we do look at different topics and say all right that one maybe you could be 16

00:49:23.580 even with uh the age of consent the age of consent is different in different states that's sort of the

00:49:31.420 ultimate you know mark of are you an adult can you can you engage in this activity so we don't even agree

00:49:38.380 on that so would you agree with the general statement that there are a whole bunch of things in the

00:49:44.620 category of things where the the young person doesn't have full mental capacity but we still allow them to

00:49:52.700 do some things some things and some of those have permanent impact such as driving a car that's pretty permanent

00:50:01.580 yeah i mean if you do it wrong so

00:50:06.540 let me let me just throw this question out here would you violently object to a 17 and a half year old

00:50:15.660 consulting with parents so the parents are in on it the doctors are in on it and it's something that

00:50:23.660 they've struggled with for 17 or you know i don't 12 years or something in that very specific case would

00:50:32.700 you would you allow an exception very specific 17 and a half they're definitely not going to change

00:50:39.820 their mind in six months so in six months it's going to happen anyway their parents are on board

00:50:46.460 the doctors are on board so there's still some no's yeah a lot of no's but what's magic about

00:50:53.500 turning 18 because we know that your brain is not sort of solidified until you're 25 why is 18 okay

00:51:02.220 but 25 isn't better so let me let me ask the second question since we know the human brain doesn't

00:51:10.540 really get to its sort of best state until at least 25 why would you let somebody who is 24

00:51:17.180 24 have surgery knowing that they're not fully capable they're not 25 yet

00:51:26.940 yeah some of this is is really tough here let me let me give you my take here's my take

00:51:35.740 freedom has to be the first requirement unless there's something special going on

00:51:41.580 would you agree with the general statement freedom has to be the top requirement unless

00:51:48.300 there's something really specific going on now that's the that's really edge case for the trans

00:51:54.460 situation because in the trans situation if it's an adult almost all of you would say well that's an

00:52:01.820 adult they can do what they want so very few i don't think i've seen

00:52:06.780 ever i've never seen a republican say they care what an adult does with their body

00:52:14.060 but then you start getting into the older teenage years and then there's more of a battle between

00:52:19.740 freedom and do we need to go interfere in your life it's not our life it's not my life do i do i need

00:52:28.940 to be part of interfering with some other family for a 17 year old 17 and a half year old who's got

00:52:36.220 responsible parents who are talking to their medical professionals is that my business is that my business

00:52:43.180 because if it's my business i might stop everybody until they're 25 would that be the right decision

00:52:50.780 if i make it my business to get into other people's private lives

00:52:54.220 right now if it's a toddler and the parents have somehow gotten a medical professional

00:53:02.380 to agree that they're going to transition a toddler well maybe you want to get involved

00:53:08.300 that that might be too far over your line you go oh that's just child abuse that's you know that might

00:53:15.180 be your opinion so i would just like to uh put a little less certainty on this conversation

00:53:24.220 a little less certainty yeah don't say bad take bad take i can't respect i can respect

00:53:33.900 here's my counterpoint i don't respect bad take that i have no respect for that that comment at all all

00:53:43.660 right um objective reality exists yeah but objective reality exists but that has nothing to do with this topic

00:53:52.540 my topic has nothing to do with objective reality because we don't have access to it what we have is how

00:53:59.260 people feel and then they're going to act that way and freedom allows us to act on what we feel

00:54:05.180 unless it's some kind of special case where somebody else is going to get hurt

00:54:09.100 all right objective reality is morality i don't think you can find the bright line of morality in this situation

00:54:25.820 i don't think so um

00:54:32.940 all right here's scott krog asking that a dumb ass question scott

00:54:39.580 do you want some flexibility at 10 11 and 12 years old ask better questions all right that's just a stupid

00:54:45.580 question all right ask better questions why does my opinion matter at all my my opinion of anything

00:54:53.420 shouldn't be even part of the topic right i use my opinion as an example but you shouldn't care what

00:54:59.340 my opinion is and nobody should my opinion should be absolutely zero interest to anybody

00:55:07.100 no interest whatsoever all right

00:55:12.460 that let's see if i missed anything oh yeah did you know that uh i've been saying vivek

00:55:18.140 ramaswamy and that's not how you pronounce his name his first name i i saw this on uh gaufeld last

00:55:24.620 night that it's vivek rhymes with cake vivek how many of you knew that and let me say it wrong for weeks

00:55:37.500 some of you knew and then i saw other people say that there are some people who pronounce the same

00:55:43.420 spelling differently for different people maybe um do you think that uh vivek got don lemon fired

00:55:53.180 because in that conversation don lemon said something about you know unless you were born

00:55:58.140 in this country and have black skin you shouldn't be telling me about

00:56:03.020 slavery or something i don't think that's what i don't think it was yeah that that just sounds like

00:56:08.940 a pundit thing to talk about i don't think he got on fire i think they were ready to make that change

00:56:16.220 all right so uh let me tell you what i'd love to see i would love to see a voluntary debate between

00:56:24.540 vivek and uh rfk jr wouldn't you love that wouldn't you love that because we're we're expecting the two

00:56:35.740 senior citizens to get the primary nomination but i feel like we have an obligation as citizens

00:56:43.500 see if you agree with this i believe we have an obligation as citizens to make sure there's another

00:56:49.820 option doesn't mean you have to pick it you know your vote still your vote you get to do whatever you

00:56:56.220 want but i don't feel like there's an option and i feel like to the to the degree that we can maybe

00:57:03.980 generate one with our collective energies i would love to see the let's say the jv team debate because

00:57:12.220 if the jv team debates and people say uh that was the debate i wanted because you know if it's if

00:57:20.060 it's biden and trump debating what are you going to get you're going to get biden lying and then trump

00:57:27.020 lying it's just going to be two liars who wants to see a debate between two liars i mean

00:57:34.460 i say lots of good things about trump but he doesn't pass the fact checking when he's debating

00:57:39.740 nobody would say that so vivek and rfk jr are very unusual characters at a very unusual time

00:57:49.740 which is i think they both tell the truth am i wrong so we've got two you know ultra senior citizens who

00:57:58.860 are famous for lying literally famous is their brand they're famous liars right both of them

00:58:06.780 and here you've got two people who are totally qualified bright you know left and right and though

00:58:14.060 they are the ones i want to see debate let's see them debate because that's the one i would tune

00:58:20.060 into i mean i'd probably tune into anything with trump because he makes news but uh yeah and 69 is

00:58:27.820 pushing it yeah rfk jr 69 that's that's pushing the edge but i think that's still within the envelope

00:58:36.060 70s doesn't scare me like 80s do 80s just scare me 70s it's not such a big deal

00:58:43.420 so let's see if we can make that happen okay let's see if we can get now the reason i think it could

00:58:50.620 happen is you've noticed that rfk jr has been willing to appear on now bright radio

00:58:57.980 he's been on tucker carlson show when tucker had a show so we we know that rfk jr will go where the

00:59:05.260 fight is like he'll go to the fight he's not going to run away from certain outlets and we know that

00:59:11.420 vivek will do the same because he goes to cnn so you have the the two young people who have not yet

00:59:19.020 pissed off people so badly that the other side won't even talk to him or that it would be some

00:59:24.380 kind of a you know political suicide if you went on that other network they're both brave enough and

00:59:29.660 smart enough they can walk into the the den of the lions and then come out right who do you want

00:59:37.260 as your president i want somebody who can walk into the den of lions and walk out and they've both

00:59:44.300 proven they can do that they've both been on the what i would call less friendly network to their

00:59:50.380 message and they both came out looking great both of them that those are the two i want to see duke it

00:59:57.180 out right that that would be good for the country and i would like to publicly thank both of them

01:00:05.900 because let's see if you agree with the statement uh whether it's happened yet that might be a little

01:00:12.860 more controversial but don't you think that having the two of them in the conversation

01:00:18.540 make everybody a better politician and probably makes the pundits better too because they have

01:00:24.300 you know reasonable things to talk about now instead of crazy so big thanks to both of them for getting

01:00:31.340 in when the the odds of victory are low and yet they're both putting a whole bunch of you know time

01:00:38.540 and energy which i see as nothing but patriotism now you can always argue oh people like power blah blah

01:00:45.100 blah blah that's probably true but both of their actions look to me

01:00:50.860 pretty cleanly patriotic like i get a vibe like they both think the country is broken and they've

01:00:56.300 got some ideas to fix it and they think that the people in charge don't have the right ideas or the

01:01:01.020 right skills or the right incentives to fix it to me they both look like patriots i would love

01:01:06.780 to see two honest brilliant people on opposite sides barely opposite because you know again rfk jr does

01:01:17.420 these high ground things where he does find agreement so what could be better than those two having a

01:01:26.780 debate and by the way is it would be the the thing i think would do the best job of making them

01:01:32.860 legitimate um competition for the two presumed candidates

01:01:42.220 all right

01:01:45.260 can something like that get more attention than the hateful alternative of the old man yelling

01:01:49.820 it depends where the platform is if if somebody like joe rogan hosted them

01:01:55.500 yeah it would get so much attention you couldn't believe it right yeah uh

01:02:04.620 who would be a good who would be the best host moderator

01:02:13.660 yeah i don't think i don't think it would be joe rogan because that would be

01:02:18.300 more overtly political than he usually does

01:02:20.780 malice malice would be interesting dave rubin would be great megan kelly mike roe

01:02:28.460 shellenberger i'm trying to see anybody who is not controversial to one side or the other

01:02:34.460 pretty much everybody is a controversial figure aren't they

01:02:39.260 smirconish i like smirconish i would take smirconish out of that whole list

01:02:44.700 yeah i would take smirconish or um i'll take uh van jones russell brand russell brand brett bear

01:02:58.220 brett bear is good

01:03:03.340 yeah matt taibbi he's a little uh politically hot at the moment megan kelly is great but she's

01:03:09.420 associated with one side i mean she would do a terrific job but i think she's associated with the one side

01:03:18.940 jimmy door interesting lex friedman um

01:03:25.180 yeah maybe yeah maybe lex friedman

01:03:29.420 lex friedman puts on a good show

01:03:32.220 right so he just he does generally just a good job of everything he does

01:03:36.540 so that that argues for him

01:03:40.700 harvey keitel now jordan peterson i think is identified with one side a little bit too much

01:03:47.260 all right well that's enough on that youtube thanks for joining i'm going to go do something else

01:03:53.180 you're the best except for the locals people

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 26, 2023

Episode 2090 Scott Adams： RFK Jr. Is The New Persuasion Leader, Tucker Is Right About Everything

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