Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2134 Scott Adams： Trump Gets Indicted & Takes Pence Out Of The Race, UFOs, Cuba & China

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00:00:55.700 So, I don't know if you were checking the news, but...

00:00:59.460 Turns out, ex-President Trump has been indicted.

00:01:04.620 Does it feel like we've been here before?

00:01:08.460 Is this some kind of weird groundhog day situation?

00:01:13.580 President Trump is indicted.

00:01:16.180 I just feel like every, I don't know, six weeks I'm here.

00:01:19.780 I know, but this is the, this is the one, this is the one that gets him.

00:01:26.160 The walls are closing in.

00:01:29.060 All right, so as you know, the indictments are coming down.

00:01:32.520 There are going to be seven counts, including espionage and not cooperating with the Department of Justice, I guess.

00:01:41.440 And we don't know the details yet.

00:01:44.960 They have not been announced.

00:01:46.460 But it looks like he's looking at maybe life in prison.

00:01:50.920 Life in prison.

00:01:54.340 How do you feel about this?

00:01:59.160 Give me your, give me your feeling on this.

00:02:03.220 Disgusted, hunted, helpless, BS, lawfare, rigged, angry, irritated, angry.

00:02:17.120 You know what I'm worried about?

00:02:21.280 I'm worried that they wore you down, or they wore all of us down.

00:02:25.440 And that the anger that you should be feeling about this, you all already used up in the prior indictments.

00:02:33.660 It's like, oh, and then you go away, and it's like, oh, but it feels like a repeat now.

00:02:39.640 I found that I couldn't generate the same amount of anger I generated with the last indictment.

00:02:47.060 Anybody having that, that issue?

00:02:49.760 And it has nothing to do whether he did or did not do something illegal.

00:02:53.600 It has nothing to do with what happened.

00:02:56.360 It has only to do with the fact that it's the, I don't know, third, fourth, tenth time he's been in great legal jeopardy.

00:03:04.300 If you count the impeachments plus the legal issues, I just feel like I'm worn out.

00:03:11.620 I'm just exhausted.

00:03:13.280 Now, that's a pretty good strategy for the Dems,

00:03:16.740 because I think, I worry that they've exhausted your outrage.

00:03:24.420 You know, once you're out of outrage, because there's so much to be outraged about,

00:03:30.000 specifically in terms of unequal justice.

00:03:33.260 It just seems like there's so much that I'm just, I'm just empty.

00:03:38.800 I've run out of things.

00:03:40.140 But, let me make the following predictions.

00:03:45.900 Number one, how the other candidates treat this will make a big difference to the outcomes.

00:03:56.020 Specifically, if it turns out that Trump has taken a left with people who talked about it.

00:04:01.840 Right?

00:04:02.640 And if they talked about it wrong, they are dead.

00:04:06.060 They are dead.

00:04:08.380 At least to me.

00:04:10.140 All right.

00:04:10.720 So, let me give you an idea of what the three major candidates said, Republican candidates.

00:04:17.940 All right, here's DeSantis talking about it.

00:04:20.620 And this, by the way, is an excellent, excellent answer.

00:04:24.620 So, here's how to do a right.

00:04:26.140 This is DeSantis.

00:04:27.780 Quote,

00:04:28.240 Why so zealous in pursuing Trump, yet so passive about Hillary or Hunter?

00:04:33.460 The DeSantis administration will bring accountability to the DOJ, excise political bias, and weaponization once and for all.

00:04:43.300 That's perfect.

00:04:45.080 That's perfect.

00:04:46.420 Because he didn't say Trump is good or Trump is bad or Trump should be anything.

00:04:51.220 He just said that the Democrats are weaponizing it.

00:04:55.400 Perfect.

00:04:56.840 Right?

00:04:56.960 So, if Trump went down and DeSantis was your choice, you know, if you're a Republican, he ended up to be your choice, would you be happy with that response?

00:05:08.060 I would be completely happy with that, yes.

00:05:10.700 Now, give me a fact check.

00:05:13.420 Did DeSantis say he would pardon some of the J6ers, and would that include Trump?

00:05:19.880 Did DeSantis say he would, he did say he would pardon Trump?

00:05:23.460 My memory is getting confused.

00:05:27.060 I think he did, right?

00:05:28.580 I think he did, right?

00:05:29.980 So, I would say DeSantis is perfectly clean on this question.

00:05:33.400 What do you think?

00:05:35.320 Just on this question, he's perfectly clean, right?

00:05:37.840 Yeah, I think he handled it just right.

00:05:40.080 About Pence, here's what Pence said.

00:05:46.120 He will support the Republican nominee no matter who it is.

00:05:49.500 And then, when asked, does that include Trump, he said, well, he won't be the nominee.

00:05:55.500 But if he is, but he won't.

00:05:57.240 But what if he is, but he won't?

00:05:59.920 How's that answer?

00:06:01.340 And then he said he would not pardon Trump, or I think anybody else.

00:06:07.020 No pardons for January 6th.

00:06:09.820 How do you feel about no pardons for January 6th?

00:06:14.380 Disqualifying.

00:06:15.560 Yeah, it's disqualifying.

00:06:16.560 I love myself some Mike Pence.

00:06:20.680 You know, I think his performance as vice president was tremendous.

00:06:25.140 But no.

00:06:26.600 No.

00:06:27.520 No, that's dead on arrival.

00:06:29.560 I'm sorry.

00:06:30.440 He does not get even a reasonable consideration from that point of view.

00:06:34.860 How about Vivek Ramaswamy?

00:06:37.480 Did you see his statement?

00:06:39.400 Now, his is kind of lengthy, but it's also very good.

00:06:44.000 So, I'm going to read the whole thing, if you don't mind.

00:06:46.100 It's a little lengthy.

00:06:47.600 So, this is Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:06:49.580 He says, we can't have two tiers of justice.

00:06:52.080 One for Trump, another for Biden.

00:06:53.940 One for Assange, another for Manning.

00:06:56.000 One for BLM, Antifa.

00:06:57.760 Another for peaceful protesters on January 6th.

00:07:01.800 Very good.

00:07:02.880 Nice little summary.

00:07:04.540 Starts you off strong.

00:07:05.560 I never thought we'd see the day when the U.S. president deputizes the DOJ to arrest his lead rival in the middle of an election.

00:07:14.420 Yeah, that gets right to it.

00:07:16.300 That's the heart of it right there.

00:07:18.220 Obama shamefully tried to deputize the FBI to infiltrate Trump's 2016 campaign, but they're leaving nothing to chance this time around.

00:07:27.040 The federal police state is outright arresting Trump.

00:07:30.780 He's going hard at this.

00:07:31.920 This is an affront to every citizen.

00:07:34.820 We cannot devolve into a banana republic where the party in power uses police force to arrest its political opponents.

00:07:41.400 It's hypocritical for the DOJ to selectively prosecute Trump, but not Biden.

00:07:47.880 Pretty much every one of you agrees with that, I'm sure.

00:07:50.420 There are also serious legal questions about the president's power to declassify documents and the potential illegality of the overclassification of federal documents in the first place.

00:08:02.180 That's a small issue.

00:08:03.780 I'm not sure I would have put that in there.

00:08:05.440 That's for the courts to decide, but we the people decide who governs the nation.

00:08:10.100 Exactly.

00:08:11.460 Exactly.

00:08:12.180 And they're taking your choice away.

00:08:13.900 Or trying to.

00:08:14.480 It would be much easier for me to win this election if Trump were in the race.

00:08:19.440 Correct.

00:08:20.420 But I stand for principles over politics.

00:08:24.100 Are you allowed to do that?

00:08:27.340 I didn't know that was allowed.

00:08:29.700 Are you allowed to stand for principle over politics?

00:08:32.560 But he is.

00:08:33.580 I mean, I think it's good politics, too.

00:08:35.940 Don't get me wrong.

00:08:37.440 I do believe he believes in the principle.

00:08:39.700 So I think he's telling you the absolute truth.

00:08:42.380 His opinion.

00:08:42.860 But, you know, it is politics, too.

00:08:45.980 It's just good politics.

00:08:47.020 He says, I commit to pardon Trump promptly on January 20th, 2025, and to restore the rule of law in our country.

00:08:55.940 Boom.

00:08:56.340 How about, perfect statement.

00:09:02.020 I commit to pardon Trump promptly on January 20th, 2025.

00:09:05.760 Isn't that interesting?

00:09:08.440 Now, how do you like his answer compared to DeSantis?

00:09:13.820 Who do you think did it better, DeSantis or Vivek Ramaswamy?

00:09:20.300 Well, Vivek's is longer.

00:09:22.260 He had more meat on the bone there.

00:09:23.980 Yeah, but he was also super direct about the pardon.

00:09:32.220 Now, here's what I like about his take on this.

00:09:35.700 He could always change his mind.

00:09:38.280 You know, if he became president, and it turns out that the charges were way worse than anybody imagined, he could change his mind.

00:09:46.280 Nobody would care.

00:09:47.580 I mean, but he'd have to have the facts on his side, right?

00:09:50.460 If the facts were not on his side, then changing his mind would be a pretty bad idea.

00:09:56.520 But he has the option.

00:09:58.420 If it turns out there's something we don't know, and it changes how you feel about it, he could change his mind.

00:10:03.640 But at the moment, with what we do know, and his position, which I agree with, on the weaponization of the Department of Justice, this is a strong statement.

00:10:14.980 I like the principle over the minutia.

00:10:19.180 So, I think he nailed it.

00:10:22.120 Good job there.

00:10:25.360 But, does this one feel real to you?

00:10:29.720 Let me check your temperature.

00:10:32.280 Does this, everybody's been saying, oh, this is the one you've got to worry about.

00:10:36.180 You know, the bill bars, the people who actually know what they're talking about.

00:10:39.180 When it comes to some of this legal stuff, I don't trust my judgment.

00:10:44.900 But I see a bunch of people who do have the knowledge and the background and the judgment saying this is the one.

00:10:52.220 They've been saying this for a long time.

00:10:54.200 Do you think they're right?

00:10:54.900 Is this the one?

00:11:00.900 It doesn't feel like it.

00:11:03.640 It doesn't feel like the one.

00:11:05.620 Yeah, what does Dershowitz say?

00:11:08.400 Yeah.

00:11:08.840 So, I guess he's being charged with espionage.

00:11:14.720 Do you think that there's anything about what he did that would sound to your mind, now this is not the, I'm not talking about the legal technical definition of espionage.

00:11:25.400 He may, in fact, have tripped over some technical definition.

00:11:29.940 But in your mind, does espionage sound anything like what he's accused of doing?

00:11:37.200 It doesn't, does it?

00:11:38.920 At the very worst, he was playing fast and loose with some confidential information.

00:11:43.240 That's the worst.

00:11:44.920 Worst case scenario, he was uncautious.

00:11:50.180 Now, so there's some details of the story we'll talk about.

00:11:55.400 So, I think the most interesting part of the story is that there's an audio recording of him saying something along the lines of Mark Milley, General Milley, was blaming Trump for wanting to attack Iran, allegedly.

00:12:12.060 Trump was saying, that's not me.

00:12:14.280 That was Mark Milley himself who drew up the attack plans.

00:12:17.600 That wasn't me.

00:12:18.800 So, he's basically countering Milley in this audio.

00:12:22.320 And he seems to be at least rustling papers and referring to something as if he has in his hand, maybe something he's showing to people, in which is something about an attack plan for Iran.

00:12:36.800 Now, how would you feel if there was a secret attack plan for Iran and Trump had removed it and potentially somebody could see the actual attack plan for Iran?

00:12:51.980 I'm sorry, Iran, yeah, Iran.

00:12:55.340 What would you feel about that?

00:12:57.960 Fine?

00:12:58.840 You'd be okay with that?

00:12:59.860 A military attack plan against an adversary?

00:13:06.120 You'd be okay if the president allowed that into the wrong hands.

00:13:11.400 I mean, just put it in a risky situation by having it not as secure.

00:13:16.160 Really?

00:13:19.040 Interesting.

00:13:19.840 Well, we don't know if it was in the wrong hands.

00:13:21.480 No, we're only talking about the risk of it getting in the wrong hands.

00:13:24.060 But he was clearly talking to some people who did not have security clearance.

00:13:29.180 I mean, if the audio is correct, and we don't know if it is, but, all right.

00:13:36.720 So, we don't know if anything about that's true.

00:13:39.940 If it were true, I would be a little concerned about it.

00:13:43.500 Unless it's so generic that it doesn't mean anything.

00:13:47.720 Because you can imagine it being super generic.

00:13:50.460 It's like, well, we would start with an aerial bombardment.

00:13:55.940 And what would Iran say to that?

00:13:57.660 Well, obviously.

00:13:59.220 Obviously, they'd start with an aerial bombardment.

00:14:02.720 Right?

00:14:03.300 And then it would be, we would work carefully with our allies in Israel.

00:14:08.060 Well, of course.

00:14:09.620 Obviously, they're going to work carefully with our allies in Israel.

00:14:13.040 So, what do you think that document said?

00:14:15.500 Do you think it really said, here's the beach we're going to land on?

00:14:20.460 Do you think?

00:14:21.500 Do you think he had a document that said, here's the beach.

00:14:24.260 This is where we're going to have our beachhead.

00:14:26.260 Like, something that really would make a difference.

00:14:28.740 I don't think so.

00:14:30.360 I doubt it.

00:14:31.560 Yeah.

00:14:31.880 My guess is it was a very generic document.

00:14:35.940 That said something along the line of, we'd start with an aerial bombardment.

00:14:40.180 You know, they have ex-assets.

00:14:43.480 We'd have to take out their anti-aircraft first.

00:14:46.200 It probably is the most generic.

00:14:49.100 My guess is it's the world's most generic battle plan.

00:14:53.660 Do you think I'm wrong?

00:14:56.200 I say it's generic.

00:14:58.540 We'll never see it.

00:14:59.640 I don't think we'll ever see it, if it exists.

00:15:01.740 Don't even know if it exists.

00:15:02.980 But wouldn't you feel different, or differently, if you knew that the plan was just a bunch of generic BS?

00:15:13.780 I would feel different.

00:15:15.100 That would make a big difference to me.

00:15:16.840 But I don't know if we'll ever find that out.

00:15:19.900 I have a hard time believing he would have taken that out of the office and waved it around if it really was the secret stuff.

00:15:26.900 I mean, I'm sure it was classified, but it just feels like it would be generic.

00:15:33.320 Like, would they show the president?

00:15:35.940 What kind of document does the president get shown in the first place?

00:15:39.760 Do you think the military comes in with a 25-page detailed document of the battle plan and hands it to a president?

00:15:47.180 Or do they summarize it in one page, and it's just so generic by the time it's summarized that there's just no details there?

00:15:54.680 If I were the military, I would never give the president those details.

00:16:00.440 Because it would increase the number of people who saw them.

00:16:04.420 Right?

00:16:05.340 I would simply keep the detailed plans into the smallest, smallest group of people,

00:16:11.700 and I would just tell the president that you had a plan.

00:16:13.840 Yes, we have a plan, and we've got details.

00:16:16.740 I wouldn't hand it to him, would you?

00:16:19.360 Would you actually hand him the detailed plan?

00:16:21.920 The president?

00:16:22.420 Why would they ever do that?

00:16:25.520 I don't think they would ever do that.

00:16:27.820 They can't get Trump to read the briefings.

00:16:31.440 If Trump wasn't reading the briefings, how much of a document is he going to read?

00:16:37.160 One page.

00:16:39.140 Probably one or two pages.

00:16:40.820 I guess there was some rustling of papers, so it might have been more than one page.

00:16:45.200 But anyway, so that's a big question.

00:16:47.560 The news will try to convince you that it's really some good stuff in there, but we don't know, even if it exists.

00:16:56.020 I would say if that document is real, and they can determine it ever existed, correct me if I'm wrong.

00:17:02.940 One, every document that goes into the Oval Office is digitized, yes or no?

00:17:10.500 Yes or no?

00:17:11.860 Every document that enters the Oval Office is digitized and kept forever, independent of the piece of paper.

00:17:18.000 So in theory, in theory, they should be able to do a global search, look for Rand, look for Mark Milley as the author, look for the president as the recipient.

00:17:31.980 Boom.

00:17:32.620 There's your electronic document.

00:17:34.740 Am I wrong?

00:17:35.300 There's no way that was only on a piece of paper.

00:17:40.840 I don't think there's any chance of that.

00:17:43.280 So you find out what it was, and then you ask him to produce that document, and if he can't, or if he does it now, which would be almost as damning,

00:17:53.840 that would suggest that he really knew he had something that was confidential and that he really was trying to hide it, which would really be a problem.

00:18:02.540 So, Ben Shapiro is better than Scott on this.

00:18:10.040 Well, what kind of a fucked up comment is that?

00:18:13.860 Do you think I don't know that?

00:18:16.340 Ben Shapiro is literally, like, isn't he a lawyer?

00:18:20.680 So is that some kind of insightful comment, that a lawyer has a little better insight on a legal question?

00:18:29.100 Did you come here for my legal insights?

00:18:32.540 Well, what kind of a comment is that?

00:18:37.820 And then we have some anti-Semitic stuff, because, of course.

00:18:43.100 Yeah.

00:18:44.100 Can I just ask you once as clearly as possible?

00:18:48.340 I don't care what you think, but don't do the anti-Semitic stuff in the chats.

00:18:53.960 Right?

00:18:54.620 Go off and have your own little fucking bigoted thoughts.

00:18:59.740 You can do that, but don't put it in this forum.

00:19:03.920 We don't want to see it at all.

00:19:06.580 Right?

00:19:11.100 So, here's my take on this.

00:19:13.400 I don't think that Republicans are going to care what he did or did not do.

00:19:20.360 The pundits will.

00:19:21.420 You know, the ones who go on TV will say, oh, the law is the law, nobody's above the law.

00:19:25.780 I feel like that's the way you should say after every time somebody says it, because it's so boring that the next time somebody goes on a TV show and says, nobody is above the law.

00:19:39.900 That when you do an impression of them, they should go like this, nobody's above the law.

00:19:46.760 Because it's just so fucking stupid, it bothers me.

00:19:50.440 Nobody's above the law.

00:19:51.960 Because it doesn't mean anything.

00:19:54.400 It means nothing.

00:19:56.820 There's no, no useful information.

00:20:01.200 Because who the fuck are you talking to?

00:20:03.600 Are you talking to somebody who thinks that the law should be different for different citizens?

00:20:07.420 What are you adding to the conversation?

00:20:10.960 Right?

00:20:11.360 The only thing about Trump is whether he's being treated below the law.

00:20:16.200 Right?

00:20:16.680 If they start saying nobody is below the law, that would fit perfectly and also be a new thought.

00:20:24.280 But you know what's not a new thought?

00:20:25.940 Nobody's above the law.

00:20:27.460 Nobody's above the law.

00:20:29.580 Gurgle.

00:20:32.980 This is only about somebody being treated below the law.

00:20:36.480 Somebody treating and being targeted.

00:20:39.320 That's the story.

00:20:40.620 If you let this story be about above the law, who's above the law?

00:20:46.120 Then you've just let the idiots win.

00:20:49.240 All right.

00:20:49.560 You should mock the fuck.

00:20:52.200 And if anybody who ever says, he's not above the law.

00:20:56.180 Take my lead on this, please.

00:20:58.120 I would say that the allegations against President Trump seem pretty serious.

00:21:07.360 But I also don't think there's a victim.

00:21:10.540 Is there?

00:21:11.920 Is there a victim in this story?

00:21:15.320 I mean, can you make an argument for a victim?

00:21:18.260 You know, you can make a potential argument.

00:21:21.120 Like, oh, maybe nothing bad happened, but potentially it could have.

00:21:26.240 So you can't let people get away with stuff, because the next time maybe something would happen that's bad.

00:21:31.400 You don't want to set a precedent of not prosecuting people for putting your secrets at risk.

00:21:37.220 On the other hand, it's going to look like a weaponized Department of Justice.

00:21:45.320 Given that DeSantis and Vivek Ramoswamy and Trump himself have all decided that the weaponized Department of Justice should be the biggest issue.

00:21:57.120 And I feel like it should be.

00:21:58.920 Because, you know what?

00:22:00.600 I feel like everything they do to Trump, they're doing to me.

00:22:04.320 I just said it.

00:22:05.460 Let me just put it right there.

00:22:08.160 Now, I might be a special case.

00:22:10.260 Because, you know, I have a public profile and I have my own troubles.

00:22:14.540 I have my own problems.

00:22:16.320 But I feel like whatever they do to him, they're doing to me.

00:22:21.120 It does not feel like I'm watching a story.

00:22:23.780 It just feels like it's happening to me.

00:22:27.500 And how many of you feel the same?

00:22:32.400 I've never had this feeling before.

00:22:34.140 I've never had a feeling where the politician was a proxy for me as a citizen.

00:22:42.220 Have you ever had that?

00:22:43.460 Can you think of any time that's ever happened where the candidate became a proxy for you?

00:22:49.780 Like, actually, you.

00:22:51.980 Yeah.

00:22:52.940 Trump has a way, doesn't he?

00:22:54.340 I just don't know that other people could have done that.

00:22:56.880 Maybe Reagan, somebody like that.

00:22:58.280 But it takes a really unique personality to make you feel him, especially after all he's done.

00:23:07.260 Right?

00:23:07.600 It's not like he hasn't disappointed you.

00:23:10.200 Am I right?

00:23:10.700 That the love-hate relationship with Trump bonds people to him in a way that I don't think ordinary political observers understand.

00:23:22.460 Trump is a case of love.

00:23:25.440 It's not even politics with him.

00:23:27.460 It's actually just a weird form of love.

00:23:29.160 And part of the way that he addicts you to him is by disappointing you.

00:23:34.280 Do you understand that?

00:23:35.960 The way he addicts you is to disappoint you.

00:23:39.760 If he didn't disappoint you in a fairly, you know, hard-to-predict way, but you know it's coming, you just don't know how and when,

00:23:46.680 you wouldn't be as in love with him if, in fact, that describes how you feel.

00:23:53.160 All right?

00:23:53.480 His supporters.

00:23:54.660 There's something about the fact he does, he'll do six things that you love, you just love.

00:24:01.540 And you love him for saying it.

00:24:03.760 And then he'll do one thing and you're like, holy cow, what?

00:24:07.500 And then you lose your love.

00:24:09.480 But then he does six more things that makes you love him.

00:24:11.640 And you're like, ugh, ugh, ugh, why does he keep doing this to me?

00:24:17.040 Why does he keep making me love him?

00:24:19.300 So I do believe that there's a, you know, the Democrats call it a cult.

00:24:25.880 But it doesn't feel like that to me.

00:24:28.980 Like, I get what they're saying, and that word is not so wrong that I would mock them for it.

00:24:34.440 But I feel like it's just a few degrees off.

00:24:37.660 I don't think it's a cult.

00:24:38.860 I think people fell in love with him.

00:24:42.580 I think they love him.

00:24:44.480 And that's not exactly a cult.

00:24:46.600 It has more to do with just him.

00:24:48.920 It's not even about, you know, the community or the other Republicans or anything else.

00:24:54.160 They just like him.

00:24:55.680 Now, the reason I talk like this is that I have exactly the same feeling.

00:25:00.880 My feeling for him personally is very good.

00:25:04.000 Like, you know, I've met him, so you have a different feeling when you've met somebody.

00:25:07.540 But, you know, I get disappointed too.

00:25:13.160 So, I mean, I get just jacked back and forth like crazy.

00:25:17.280 You know, on some level, I would love to have a Trump-free existence.

00:25:22.280 My life would probably be better if I didn't have to deal with it and, you know, have to explain it and have to be associated with it so more people hate me than already do.

00:25:35.580 That sort of thing.

00:25:36.460 But, on the other hand, oh, my God, does he deserve to win.

00:25:43.760 You know what I mean?

00:25:46.400 There's some sort of karmic justice that I feel just hanging over me like a weight.

00:25:51.840 Like, karma won't let him lose.

00:25:56.960 It just feels like almost an external force that's going to set this right by putting him back in office.

00:26:05.460 But I've got to admit, this legal jeopardy does look pretty serious.

00:26:10.220 If I had to rank it on a scale of 1 to 10 for seriousness, it's at least an 8.

00:26:18.780 What do you say?

00:26:20.480 8 out of 10 for seriousness?

00:26:25.380 I've got some no's.

00:26:27.160 Oh, Dershowitz says no.

00:26:28.740 Dershowitz says no.

00:26:30.720 All right, well, I'm going to wait for Dershowitz and then alter my opinion.

00:26:34.500 I've told you my Dershowitz rule.

00:26:36.980 The Dershowitz rule is very simple.

00:26:38.560 If Dershowitz disagrees with me on, let's say, a legal issue,

00:26:43.660 I will immediately alter my opinion to match his.

00:26:47.900 Because he hasn't been wrong yet.

00:26:50.220 Well, I'm sure he's been wrong about something.

00:26:52.280 But he's, you know, far more likely to be right about this than anybody else.

00:26:56.120 And the reason he's far more likely to be right

00:26:58.500 is that Dershowitz and also Turley are two people that you can depend on

00:27:04.480 to follow the path of the law

00:27:08.360 and precedent

00:27:09.420 and not lie to you.

00:27:12.900 I mean, I do love,

00:27:14.700 love the fact that there are two lawyers

00:27:17.280 that I can trust

00:27:18.640 when they give an opinion about a political figure.

00:27:21.940 Yeah.

00:27:22.320 If Dershowitz or Turley

00:27:23.860 give me a view,

00:27:25.840 I immediately say,

00:27:26.880 oh, that looks reasonable.

00:27:27.840 I'm going to adopt that view.

00:27:28.880 I don't think Barnes falls into that category,

00:27:33.000 but I mean, he's a little more of a partisan,

00:27:36.220 in my opinion.

00:27:39.300 All right.

00:27:39.740 Do you think that this indictment will guarantee Trump wins

00:27:46.460 or guarantee he loses?

00:27:49.160 Because it could go either way, right?

00:27:50.980 This is a really high risk.

00:27:54.980 And the reason it's high risk

00:27:56.480 is that if they take him down,

00:27:58.700 I don't know what that's going to do to my brain.

00:28:01.840 Do you?

00:28:02.840 Have you thought about it?

00:28:04.360 Because part of me thinks he's never going to be taken down

00:28:06.880 because we've been through this before.

00:28:09.320 But what would that do to your brain

00:28:10.920 if he takes him down?

00:28:11.880 I think I would flip out.

00:28:14.160 I think I would be done with the United States.

00:28:20.700 Too strong?

00:28:22.720 Not done in terms of moving.

00:28:25.380 But if there's anything that's too far,

00:28:29.600 this is too far.

00:28:32.000 And I believe that one of the purposes that I can serve,

00:28:36.760 if anything,

00:28:37.600 to the, let's say, to the greater good,

00:28:39.980 is, I've used this term before,

00:28:41.520 the internet dads.

00:28:44.160 There is a group of people who, I believe,

00:28:47.380 do better than others in being independent thinkers

00:28:49.780 and not having any objective

00:28:52.320 other than making the world a better place.

00:28:55.340 And, you know, yeah, Sernovich, he's an internet dad.

00:28:58.540 I don't believe he's just politically motivated.

00:29:00.680 I think he's looking for what makes sense, what works.

00:29:04.100 And I like to think that I'm in that category

00:29:07.760 of people who will not lie to you

00:29:10.220 because I don't have a reason to.

00:29:11.280 I just don't have a reason to lie to you.

00:29:13.220 You know, there's no incentive whatsoever.

00:29:16.140 So, in my opinion, that's too far.

00:29:21.360 And I'd like to make sure that the Democrats are aware

00:29:25.520 of what too far looks like.

00:29:28.120 Right?

00:29:28.600 Now, I don't know what I would do,

00:29:30.660 nor would I necessarily telegraph it.

00:29:33.660 I don't think civil war.

00:29:38.020 But whatever would happen would be fairly extreme.

00:29:42.680 I do think people would die.

00:29:44.960 I do think people would die if he gets indicted and goes to jail.

00:29:49.760 Not indicted, but if he goes to jail,

00:29:52.260 I think there would be a riot.

00:29:54.740 What do you think?

00:29:55.860 Do you think there would be violence?

00:29:57.180 I think people would just stop paying taxes.

00:30:01.640 It could be the end of the republic.

00:30:04.680 Yeah.

00:30:05.000 I think taking down Trump is an existential threat to the republic.

00:30:10.420 Not a big one.

00:30:12.100 Not, you know, not 90%.

00:30:13.700 But I think it's a solid 10% risk to end the republic if they jail.

00:30:21.100 If your government is willing to take,

00:30:23.660 and I'm just making up this number,

00:30:25.160 but if they're willing to take a 10% risk to end the republic,

00:30:30.260 because this would be a big deal.

00:30:32.480 This would be a big deal.

00:30:36.200 I don't know what would happen.

00:30:37.200 Now, I suspect, depending on the timing of it,

00:30:41.260 what's your guess?

00:30:42.460 My guess of the timing is they'll drag it out

00:30:44.780 so they don't have a result before the election.

00:30:47.140 What do you think?

00:30:48.260 I believe that there will not be a court result before the election.

00:30:53.700 Does that sound right?

00:30:55.940 Because I don't think they want a result.

00:30:58.360 The last thing the Democrats want is a legal result before the election.

00:31:03.300 You know why, right?

00:31:05.120 Because they lose either way.

00:31:07.440 It doesn't matter what the result is, they lose.

00:31:10.160 It's a lose-lose for them.

00:31:11.940 If they put them in jail,

00:31:13.800 half the country is going to flip the fuck out.

00:31:17.320 Unless they really have the goods,

00:31:18.880 and it doesn't look like it yet.

00:31:23.500 Nobody's going to think that was a real election.

00:31:26.740 Nobody is going to treat whoever gets elected in that scenario

00:31:30.240 as a legitimate president.

00:31:31.800 I wouldn't.

00:31:32.280 I would not consider whoever wins to be a legitimate president

00:31:36.000 if the winning only became...

00:31:38.460 Well, maybe if it was a Republican,

00:31:41.120 because that's a different situation where you're replacing like with like.

00:31:44.740 But if the Democrats win because they figured out how to jail Trump at the last minute,

00:31:50.120 that's not going over well.

00:31:53.580 Would you agree?

00:31:54.400 That is too far.

00:31:59.120 But I don't think they're going to play it that way.

00:32:01.200 I think they want to put the clout over him until he gets elected.

00:32:04.540 And then what happens?

00:32:05.340 Can he pardon himself?

00:32:07.260 Can Trump pardon himself?

00:32:08.440 How does that work?

00:32:13.740 Well, I think that at the very least,

00:32:15.580 they would have to delay the legal process for another four years

00:32:18.540 because they don't like to prosecute sitting presidents.

00:32:22.980 I don't know.

00:32:23.820 I think the Democrats, through their surrogates,

00:32:27.360 are playing a very dangerous game.

00:32:29.720 There is one way that this ends right,

00:32:34.880 and it doesn't include Trump in jail.

00:32:38.360 If you put Trump in jail,

00:32:40.820 half the country, well, 40% of the country is just going to flip out.

00:32:45.760 And that is just too far.

00:32:50.220 That's just too far.

00:32:51.620 You know, the impeachment was sort of theater,

00:32:54.160 and I thought it was outrageous and inappropriate,

00:32:56.880 but it wasn't too far.

00:32:58.900 It was just political.

00:33:00.300 But putting him in jail,

00:33:02.720 that's when I would lose every bit of trust and love for my government,

00:33:08.520 or the country, really.

00:33:10.280 In fact, if the country allowed that to happen,

00:33:12.820 I would lose my love for the country itself.

00:33:15.920 I would lose all respect for our country if we let that happen.

00:33:20.100 And that's a pretty bad place to be.

00:33:23.420 All right.

00:33:25.120 Let's talk about something else.

00:33:27.160 UFOs.

00:33:27.640 I've asked before,

00:33:30.740 and almost all of you think the UFO story is BS.

00:33:33.320 But I love the fact that there are so many credible people who are saying it's credible.

00:33:40.620 Here's my theory.

00:33:42.380 You may have heard it before.

00:33:43.600 The only thing that fits all of the facts and evidence,

00:33:48.080 because the whistleblower story has some weird holes in it,

00:33:51.680 and the holes are,

00:33:53.200 are these only happening in the United States?

00:33:56.740 All the UFOs are crashing in the United States,

00:33:59.100 and there are actual, like, dead UFO bodies,

00:34:02.580 and no one else was talking about it.

00:34:04.380 But what about all the other countries?

00:34:06.600 It's like this global conspiracy.

00:34:09.520 You know, there's nobody, not the Russians.

00:34:11.820 Nobody's, no citizen took a picture and put it on the Internet.

00:34:15.600 Right?

00:34:15.780 So there are all kinds of things.

00:34:16.820 Really?

00:34:17.900 You know, this story doesn't hold together if you do the really test.

00:34:20.980 Really?

00:34:22.080 Really?

00:34:22.980 Every single time, the government got there first.

00:34:26.620 Really?

00:34:26.960 Did they all crash next to a U.S. military base?

00:34:31.600 How did all of them only get captured by the military?

00:34:35.000 Just no citizen, right?

00:34:36.980 No citizen saw these.

00:34:38.400 Just the military.

00:34:39.820 And they packed it up and took it away?

00:34:42.660 Well, maybe.

00:34:45.380 I mean, I'll always be open to recreational belief,

00:34:50.260 you know, that maybe there's some aliens.

00:34:52.900 I would love that.

00:34:53.380 But here's what I think is the most likely explanation.

00:34:58.080 That the U.S. is starting this rumor as disinformation

00:35:03.720 so that our adversaries, Russia and China,

00:35:10.240 believe that there's some possibility,

00:35:13.400 just some possibility,

00:35:15.160 that we have alien weaponry.

00:35:20.040 Now, you say to yourself, Scott,

00:35:21.980 China and Russia are never going to believe that.

00:35:25.900 What do you mean?

00:35:27.440 There are members of our own government who believe it.

00:35:30.400 You don't think that there are members of the...

00:35:32.120 You don't think there are members of our own military

00:35:34.340 who believe the alien story?

00:35:36.640 If you were to do a survey of our generals,

00:35:39.800 you think not one of them would think that's true.

00:35:42.620 No, they would.

00:35:44.440 Some of them would think it's fake,

00:35:46.420 but absolutely some of them think it's true.

00:35:49.840 Would you agree with that?

00:35:52.760 There's some high-end members of our government

00:35:56.080 or military, or both.

00:35:58.040 Some of them believe that there are some UFOs

00:36:03.100 and we're taking them apart to learn their secrets.

00:36:06.260 Now, that would be a really good story

00:36:09.560 to have out there

00:36:11.160 if you thought you could sell it

00:36:12.560 at least a little bit to any of the Russians

00:36:14.620 or even a little bit to any of the Chinese.

00:36:16.560 You know, it doesn't mean that Putin himself believes it

00:36:19.200 or that she believes it,

00:36:20.940 but maybe the generals might.

00:36:23.320 You know, just put a little doubt out there

00:36:24.960 so they're not so willing to go to war.

00:36:27.680 Because we're really talking about

00:36:29.400 nuclear confrontations with both of them.

00:36:32.280 We're talking about what happens

00:36:33.540 if Taiwan becomes a subjective attack.

00:36:37.220 What happens if Russia looks like it's losing.

00:36:40.660 I think that's a stretch.

00:36:42.260 But I do think that this was put out here

00:36:46.880 and that would also explain

00:36:49.380 why the whistleblower could say it under oath

00:36:52.740 and not be concerned.

00:36:56.440 Because it's just a government operation

00:36:59.000 and it would be protected.

00:37:00.700 I assume you could do that, right?

00:37:02.760 If you were a CIA agent, just hypothetically,

00:37:06.040 let's say you were a CIA agent,

00:37:07.480 could you lie under oath

00:37:10.740 for national security?

00:37:15.440 Could you?

00:37:17.280 No.

00:37:18.800 Could you lie under oath

00:37:20.340 about what somebody told you?

00:37:23.540 Because he didn't say he saw him personally.

00:37:25.360 He said people told him.

00:37:27.320 What if people did tell him that?

00:37:29.720 Suppose people actually told him these stories,

00:37:33.540 but they were the spies.

00:37:34.760 What if he's not the spy,

00:37:37.600 but the spies are the ones

00:37:38.820 who told him it was real

00:37:39.760 so that he would become a whistleblower?

00:37:42.540 And then he would have no record

00:37:44.400 as being part of intelligence or anything.

00:37:47.020 So you'd say,

00:37:47.500 well, this guy looks totally real.

00:37:49.900 All of his information

00:37:51.060 is from other people who told him.

00:37:53.200 He has no direct information.

00:37:54.960 But he looks real.

00:37:56.040 He's not lying.

00:37:58.300 All you do is you have the liars talk to him.

00:38:01.040 He gets all these good stories,

00:38:02.540 thinks they're real,

00:38:03.200 and now he's not lying.

00:38:04.760 He's just wrong.

00:38:06.400 So I think the one explanation

00:38:09.360 that fits all of the observed facts

00:38:11.380 is that it's a disinformation campaign

00:38:14.120 to influence our foreign adversaries.

00:38:18.540 That's the best I have.

00:38:20.700 I wouldn't bet my life on it,

00:38:22.120 but it's the only hypothesis

00:38:24.520 that answers all questions.

00:38:27.880 It tightens everything up

00:38:29.500 in a nice little bag.

00:38:31.120 It doesn't mean it's right.

00:38:33.180 It's just the only thing

00:38:34.100 that answers all the questions.

00:38:35.760 Everything else leaves

00:38:36.600 gigantic question marks.

00:38:39.860 Seems like a dumb misinformation campaign.

00:38:42.580 Well, here's the assumption

00:38:43.600 that you would have to make

00:38:45.060 to think that was a bad idea.

00:38:48.200 Check this assumption

00:38:49.080 that high-ranking members

00:38:51.480 in the Russian and Chinese military

00:38:54.800 could or could not be convinced

00:38:57.120 that it might be true.

00:38:58.880 It might be true.

00:39:00.640 Remember, this is the trick

00:39:01.780 that Trump uses.

00:39:03.220 When Trump says he might bomb Moscow,

00:39:07.040 he says directly,

00:39:08.160 he only has to think

00:39:08.980 there's a 10% chance.

00:39:11.220 That's it.

00:39:12.440 If he thinks there's a 10% chance,

00:39:14.120 he'll act like it's real.

00:39:16.000 So you don't think

00:39:17.280 that you could convince

00:39:18.520 some members of those two governments

00:39:20.620 there's a 10% chance

00:39:21.920 we have some alien technology?

00:39:23.220 You could convince 10%

00:39:26.100 of the people

00:39:27.620 of anything.

00:39:30.100 Let me say that again.

00:39:32.000 You could convince

00:39:32.900 10% of any group of people

00:39:35.140 of absolutely anything.

00:39:38.660 And this is well within

00:39:39.820 the range of things

00:39:42.220 you could convince people are true.

00:39:44.300 Now, I've never seen

00:39:45.660 any data on this,

00:39:47.140 but do you think

00:39:48.200 that the average Russian

00:39:49.460 is more or less likely

00:39:51.960 to believe in a UFO

00:39:53.100 than the average American?

00:39:55.320 What do you think?

00:39:56.760 The average Russian

00:39:57.880 more or less likely

00:39:59.580 than an American?

00:40:03.380 I don't know.

00:40:04.060 There's no such thing

00:40:04.760 as an average Russian,

00:40:05.780 so it's a weird question.

00:40:07.440 But I think

00:40:09.800 they're not that different

00:40:10.620 than Americans.

00:40:11.200 I don't think

00:40:13.480 that they are more gullible

00:40:14.680 or less gullible

00:40:15.620 than Americans.

00:40:16.980 And don't you think

00:40:17.600 that at least a quarter

00:40:18.500 of America believes

00:40:19.440 these UFOs are real?

00:40:21.180 At least a quarter

00:40:22.160 of America.

00:40:22.880 I don't know

00:40:23.200 what the real number is,

00:40:23.940 but at least a quarter.

00:40:25.620 Maybe higher,

00:40:26.460 wouldn't you think?

00:40:27.840 You think less than a quarter?

00:40:30.320 I don't know.

00:40:31.160 I think in regular

00:40:32.540 middle America,

00:40:33.640 people see it on the news

00:40:35.080 and they say

00:40:35.540 it must be true.

00:40:37.160 You know,

00:40:37.360 we're sort of

00:40:38.300 a weird group of people

00:40:39.320 because we're the,

00:40:40.220 you know,

00:40:40.900 the people who really

00:40:42.540 read the news every day

00:40:43.700 and care about it

00:40:45.360 and, you know,

00:40:45.940 you see all the lies

00:40:46.980 and the gullibility

00:40:47.760 and stuff.

00:40:48.500 So we're the most

00:40:49.280 skeptical group

00:40:50.100 you could be

00:40:50.780 and probably,

00:40:52.980 you know,

00:40:53.680 the rest of the country

00:40:54.540 is just saying,

00:40:55.060 oh, it was on CNN,

00:40:55.980 must be true.

00:40:57.580 All right.

00:40:59.780 Elon Musk weighed in again

00:41:01.500 to a Michael Schellenberger

00:41:03.600 thread.

00:41:04.640 So Michael Schellenberger

00:41:05.560 is taking an interesting

00:41:06.620 take on this,

00:41:07.600 which I wasn't expecting.

00:41:08.600 He is treating

00:41:10.280 the story as credible,

00:41:12.800 which is different

00:41:13.640 from being true.

00:41:15.060 Got to make that distinction.

00:41:16.680 Credible just means

00:41:17.560 it came from a source

00:41:18.560 that cannot be impugned.

00:41:21.520 And I think

00:41:22.240 that would be fair.

00:41:23.460 There's nothing

00:41:24.120 about the whistleblower's past

00:41:25.820 that suggests

00:41:26.860 he's a liar.

00:41:27.620 Am I right?

00:41:29.660 As far as I know,

00:41:30.620 he's served with distinction

00:41:32.240 in the military

00:41:33.140 and he's on record.

00:41:35.900 You know,

00:41:36.160 he's put it out there.

00:41:37.940 And there are other people,

00:41:39.600 too,

00:41:39.900 Schellenberger says,

00:41:40.700 there are other people

00:41:41.380 who are confirming

00:41:42.020 the story.

00:41:42.520 So there is some other,

00:41:45.800 but I don't know

00:41:46.380 if anybody's seen it.

00:41:47.460 I think they're more

00:41:48.180 confirming the story

00:41:49.300 that somebody else

00:41:49.980 has seen it.

00:41:51.900 But Elon Musk replied

00:41:53.160 to that and he said,

00:41:54.200 haven't seen anything

00:41:55.140 and I think I'd know.

00:41:58.400 Do you believe

00:41:59.300 that Elon Musk

00:42:00.220 would know

00:42:00.860 if there were a secret

00:42:04.200 U.S. government entity

00:42:06.660 that was so secret

00:42:08.160 that even the rest

00:42:09.580 of the government

00:42:10.140 didn't know about it?

00:42:11.880 Would Elon Musk

00:42:12.680 know about something

00:42:13.520 so secret

00:42:14.220 that even the President

00:42:15.880 of the United States

00:42:16.620 might not know about it?

00:42:19.340 I don't know.

00:42:20.820 I think Musk

00:42:22.420 would know about it

00:42:23.320 in the general sense

00:42:24.880 that he would know

00:42:25.460 if any UFOs

00:42:26.560 look credible.

00:42:27.720 I don't think

00:42:28.360 he would have

00:42:28.760 specific information

00:42:29.860 about a top secret

00:42:31.540 government program

00:42:32.840 of some kind.

00:42:34.000 But if you're talking

00:42:34.880 about a dozen

00:42:35.760 crashed ships

00:42:37.520 and that would just

00:42:39.420 be the United States,

00:42:41.080 you think about

00:42:43.000 all the world

00:42:43.680 and all the other

00:42:44.400 crashes there must be

00:42:45.560 in theory.

00:42:47.780 If Elon Musk

00:42:48.960 hasn't heard anything

00:42:50.440 that looked credible,

00:42:53.160 I mean,

00:42:53.640 I'm leaning in his

00:42:54.680 direction on this,

00:42:56.300 as you know.

00:42:56.880 All right.

00:42:59.360 However,

00:43:00.180 we don't know

00:43:00.780 that these are coming

00:43:01.520 from different planets.

00:43:02.860 I saw a Brian Ramelli

00:43:05.020 tweet today.

00:43:07.480 He showed a bust,

00:43:09.280 a carved bust

00:43:10.400 of a woman's head.

00:43:12.100 And he tweeted

00:43:12.780 that it's made

00:43:13.300 of a diorite.

00:43:15.080 And he said,

00:43:15.660 diorite is one of the

00:43:16.580 strongest materials

00:43:17.520 on Earth.

00:43:18.660 It resists alkaline,

00:43:20.500 acidic elements,

00:43:21.600 and it can withstand

00:43:22.540 the effects of the

00:43:23.460 environment and time.

00:43:25.640 Experts claim that this,

00:43:28.460 meaning that bust

00:43:29.300 that looks just perfect,

00:43:30.540 remember the bust

00:43:31.920 had no degradation.

00:43:34.480 It looks exactly

00:43:35.380 like it looked

00:43:36.040 3,000 years ago.

00:43:37.880 I don't know

00:43:38.540 what this diorite is,

00:43:39.580 but it looks like

00:43:40.040 a metal of some sort

00:43:41.140 or something.

00:43:42.020 But it looked like

00:43:43.400 it was made in a mold

00:43:44.740 in modern times

00:43:46.180 because it's perfect.

00:43:47.480 Like, you know,

00:43:47.920 every part of it

00:43:48.700 is smooth and perfect.

00:43:50.840 And as Brian says

00:43:53.260 in his tweet,

00:43:54.300 experts claim this

00:43:55.380 was made with stones,

00:43:57.860 sticks, chicken bones,

00:43:59.140 and copper

00:43:59.600 3,000 years ago.

00:44:03.780 I don't think

00:44:04.740 this was made

00:44:05.500 by the ancient people

00:44:07.340 with their chicken bones.

00:44:08.900 When you look at it,

00:44:09.960 you say,

00:44:10.740 no, that was not made

00:44:11.860 with chicken bones

00:44:12.540 and copper.

00:44:13.580 I don't know

00:44:14.060 what it was made with,

00:44:15.740 but it doesn't look like

00:44:16.820 it was made

00:44:17.360 by the people

00:44:17.880 of the time.

00:44:19.260 3,000 years ago.

00:44:20.920 So 3,000 years ago,

00:44:22.600 there may have been

00:44:23.320 an artifact

00:44:23.780 that the ancients found

00:44:26.060 that was an advanced

00:44:27.800 civilization

00:44:28.460 that could do that.

00:44:29.600 Now, that would also

00:44:32.320 explain everything

00:44:32.980 from the pyramids

00:44:34.120 to the Sphinx

00:44:34.880 and all the things

00:44:35.560 that we can't figure out

00:44:36.720 how they were made.

00:44:38.880 I am getting more

00:44:40.220 and more convinced

00:44:41.140 by the earlier

00:44:42.900 advanced civilization

00:44:43.780 hypothesis,

00:44:45.780 meaning that there wasn't

00:44:48.740 necessarily an Atlantis,

00:44:51.060 but there probably was

00:44:52.540 an advanced civilization

00:44:53.860 before some cataclysm.

00:44:56.980 And it wouldn't surprise me

00:44:58.440 if they built drones.

00:45:03.160 Maybe they still have

00:45:04.300 their underwater base.

00:45:06.580 and, you know,

00:45:07.920 there's some...

00:45:09.300 Because it's easier

00:45:09.940 to imagine

00:45:10.400 all the people dying

00:45:11.660 but the robots

00:45:12.560 going on.

00:45:15.000 Imagine a situation

00:45:16.100 where a virus

00:45:16.940 killed all the humans

00:45:18.200 10 years from now.

00:45:20.260 So 10 years from now,

00:45:21.840 all the humans die

00:45:22.800 from a terrible virus.

00:45:24.660 In 10 years,

00:45:25.740 do you think

00:45:26.240 the robots

00:45:27.040 will have enough AI

00:45:28.960 and enough,

00:45:31.020 you know,

00:45:31.360 physicality,

00:45:32.420 there's enough robots

00:45:33.380 walking around,

00:45:34.020 that the robots

00:45:35.140 could keep the lights on

00:45:36.180 and just go on?

00:45:39.000 Do you think

00:45:39.360 the robots could,

00:45:40.760 you know,

00:45:41.340 well, they could at least

00:45:42.280 cannibalize each other

00:45:43.720 for parts, right?

00:45:45.700 One robot breaks

00:45:46.800 but you take some parts

00:45:48.420 from the other

00:45:48.880 broken robot.

00:45:50.100 So you could go on

00:45:51.080 for a very long time

00:45:52.520 if the robots

00:45:53.400 could assemble things.

00:45:55.420 If you get to the point

00:45:56.300 where the robots

00:45:56.940 could type on a computer

00:45:58.280 or just use their minds

00:46:00.180 to connect to the internet,

00:46:01.100 if everything's local,

00:46:05.160 if they have a power source

00:46:06.580 that they can either repair

00:46:07.780 or runs forever,

00:46:09.660 you don't think

00:46:10.840 you could have

00:46:11.300 an underground civilization

00:46:12.580 of robots

00:46:13.240 that have been there

00:46:13.860 for 6,000 years?

00:46:17.160 What do you think?

00:46:18.480 If we put robots

00:46:19.800 on Mars

00:46:20.720 and no humans

00:46:22.480 but they were sent there

00:46:24.340 with the express purpose

00:46:25.400 of setting up

00:46:26.220 a civilization

00:46:26.720 and building things

00:46:28.200 and repairing themselves,

00:46:29.620 and you came back

00:46:32.240 in 10,000 years,

00:46:33.340 would the robots

00:46:33.960 still be there

00:46:34.580 building and repairing things?

00:46:37.340 There's a good chance

00:46:38.300 they would.

00:46:39.360 I mean, there's a chance

00:46:40.060 they wouldn't

00:46:40.460 but there's a good chance

00:46:42.040 they would

00:46:42.440 because remember,

00:46:45.040 they don't die that easily.

00:46:46.780 You know,

00:46:46.880 to kill a robot,

00:46:48.780 you know,

00:46:49.660 it's got to break

00:46:50.240 or something.

00:46:51.100 So if they can repair

00:46:52.220 each other,

00:46:53.480 that's the main thing.

00:46:54.860 Once the robots

00:46:55.520 can repair each other,

00:46:57.100 they can also do anything else

00:46:58.580 with their physical environment

00:46:59.740 and they have AI,

00:47:01.920 which would include

00:47:02.660 all the knowledge

00:47:03.380 of whoever built them.

00:47:05.400 In theory,

00:47:07.100 in theory,

00:47:07.800 I would say we're,

00:47:08.740 I'm going to put a number on.

00:47:09.660 I'd say that we are

00:47:10.580 20 years away

00:47:11.740 from building

00:47:13.300 a self-sustaining

00:47:14.660 robot civilization.

00:47:17.380 20 years.

00:47:19.160 20 years is the blink of an eye.

00:47:21.640 We're basically at a point

00:47:23.140 where we could build

00:47:24.040 a civilization

00:47:24.840 that would withstand

00:47:26.520 a human cataclysm

00:47:27.960 that killed a soul.

00:47:29.660 As long as they were protected,

00:47:31.300 they would just keep on.

00:47:32.880 So I'm going to go

00:47:33.800 with the theory.

00:47:35.160 So this is similar

00:47:36.160 to the way

00:47:38.480 simulation theory

00:47:39.500 is thought of,

00:47:40.180 just playing the odds.

00:47:41.120 What are the odds

00:47:43.060 that our civilization,

00:47:45.060 the one right now,

00:47:46.240 will build an environment

00:47:48.380 with self-sustaining technology,

00:47:50.780 robots that can repair themselves?

00:47:54.280 100%.

00:47:54.800 Yeah,

00:47:55.600 the odds that we'll do it

00:47:56.720 may be in the young people's lifetime,

00:47:59.700 not mine,

00:48:00.500 maybe.

00:48:01.160 But the odds that we'll do it

00:48:02.580 in the next 50 years

00:48:03.660 are 100%.

00:48:04.580 In my opinion,

00:48:07.000 I think it's 100%.

00:48:08.200 So if we can do it

00:48:10.600 in our civilization,

00:48:13.040 and it's right here,

00:48:13.920 I mean,

00:48:14.140 it's going to happen

00:48:14.720 in many of your lifetimes,

00:48:16.640 why do you think

00:48:18.180 that a prior civilization,

00:48:19.820 if you hypothesize

00:48:21.000 that they existed,

00:48:22.440 and they would have had

00:48:23.640 thousands of years

00:48:24.580 to develop?

00:48:25.540 Oh, here's the most

00:48:26.200 mind-bending thing.

00:48:28.360 Think about

00:48:29.120 our current civilization

00:48:30.360 and where we were

00:48:32.160 500 years ago.

00:48:36.800 We were basically

00:48:38.060 walking around

00:48:39.080 and, you know,

00:48:40.160 pooping in holes

00:48:40.980 and wearing rags

00:48:42.640 500 years ago.

00:48:44.140 So the time it takes

00:48:46.300 a civilization

00:48:46.960 to go from

00:48:48.040 rag farmers

00:48:49.660 to rockets to Mars

00:48:52.320 is about 500 years.

00:48:54.980 Just 500 years.

00:48:57.100 Now imagine if there was

00:48:58.260 a human civilization

00:48:59.320 50,000 years ago.

00:49:02.740 Or,

00:49:03.500 make it easier,

00:49:04.800 I'll say

00:49:05.120 12,000 years ago.

00:49:08.460 12,000 years

00:49:09.380 is not that much.

00:49:11.780 If there were humans

00:49:13.040 12,000 years ago,

00:49:14.840 they could have reached

00:49:16.640 our level of technology

00:49:18.280 12 times over.

00:49:22.960 So if you say to yourself,

00:49:24.260 what are the odds

00:49:24.940 of some primitive civilization

00:49:26.600 being able to do

00:49:28.140 what we do?

00:49:28.800 The answer is,

00:49:30.640 they could have done

00:49:31.320 it 12 times over.

00:49:33.280 It's not just possible,

00:49:35.940 it's nearly guaranteed.

00:49:37.780 Because whatever it was

00:49:39.080 about the humans now,

00:49:40.720 if we were biologically

00:49:43.300 similar then,

00:49:44.400 and 12,000 years

00:49:45.440 isn't a lot of evolution

00:49:46.680 for a human being,

00:49:48.160 they had probably

00:49:50.280 12 times the chances

00:49:52.180 of building advanced

00:49:53.260 technology that could

00:49:54.280 go on without them.

00:49:55.780 So we're definitely

00:49:56.840 going to make

00:49:57.420 autonomous robots

00:49:58.720 that could live

00:49:59.420 forever without us.

00:50:01.460 It's going to happen.

00:50:02.220 They might be on Mars,

00:50:03.880 but it's going to happen.

00:50:05.220 Why do you think

00:50:05.740 they didn't do it?

00:50:06.340 I actually think

00:50:08.220 there was a prior

00:50:09.100 civilization.

00:50:10.660 Maybe more than one.

00:50:12.340 It's actually possible

00:50:13.400 there were 10 prior

00:50:14.480 civilizations that all

00:50:15.580 reached our level

00:50:16.260 of technology.

00:50:17.460 But we don't,

00:50:18.560 we just don't see

00:50:19.300 any of it.

00:50:20.500 Because it wouldn't

00:50:21.340 take more than,

00:50:22.240 I don't know,

00:50:22.740 a few thousand years

00:50:23.700 for all signs of them

00:50:24.720 to disappear.

00:50:27.000 Imagine, if you will,

00:50:28.600 that their entire

00:50:29.360 civilization lived in

00:50:30.780 what is now

00:50:31.580 an icy shelf.

00:50:34.060 You know,

00:50:34.200 maybe the climate

00:50:34.880 was different or

00:50:35.440 something.

00:50:36.100 So they just lived

00:50:36.960 what is now

00:50:38.100 below Antarctica

00:50:39.100 or something.

00:50:40.360 Or below the ocean.

00:50:42.100 Maybe they never

00:50:42.840 lived above the ground.

00:50:44.600 Maybe after 2,000 years

00:50:45.900 they said,

00:50:46.380 hey, this atmosphere

00:50:47.120 is no good.

00:50:48.220 Why don't we just

00:50:48.780 go live under the ocean

00:50:49.700 forever?

00:50:52.140 And maybe

00:50:52.760 they're still there.

00:50:55.080 All right.

00:50:57.160 So I'm about

00:50:59.000 80% on past

00:51:00.760 civilizations that

00:51:01.800 had advanced technology.

00:51:03.080 And if that's true,

00:51:04.880 given that I think

00:51:06.680 it's very likely

00:51:07.480 there were advanced

00:51:08.240 technologies

00:51:08.920 or advanced civilizations,

00:51:10.960 wouldn't that be

00:51:11.680 far more likely

00:51:12.780 than space aliens

00:51:15.220 figured out

00:51:15.840 how to overcome

00:51:16.840 the physics of

00:51:18.060 space and time

00:51:19.500 and distance

00:51:20.140 and get here

00:51:21.020 from a distant planet?

00:51:23.240 And then 12 of them

00:51:24.600 crash.

00:51:25.740 If there really

00:51:26.560 are 12 of them,

00:51:28.780 is it far more likely

00:51:30.120 that they were

00:51:32.760 some kind of

00:51:33.780 human-made thing?

00:51:34.880 All right.

00:51:38.540 Ukraine's

00:51:39.020 counter-offensive

00:51:39.940 has allegedly

00:51:40.740 started.

00:51:42.020 Russians are

00:51:42.960 allegedly putting up

00:51:44.160 a stiff defense.

00:51:45.400 But you may have

00:51:46.320 noticed there's

00:51:46.880 almost no news

00:51:47.780 about it.

00:51:48.720 What's up with that?

00:51:51.120 So the Ukraine

00:51:51.860 counter-offensive

00:51:52.640 is, I guess,

00:51:54.200 in full swing

00:51:54.960 and we don't know

00:51:56.400 anything about it?

00:51:57.660 Nothing.

00:51:58.480 There's just no news

00:51:59.440 about it.

00:51:59.880 Is that intentional?

00:52:03.540 What's going on

00:52:04.400 over there?

00:52:05.740 Now, as I've said,

00:52:07.360 I believe the

00:52:08.280 Ukraine war

00:52:09.700 has been over

00:52:10.360 for some time.

00:52:11.760 The war is over.

00:52:13.300 This is the negotiation.

00:52:15.220 And I think that

00:52:15.880 the negotiation

00:52:16.440 is going to be

00:52:17.120 all about Crimea.

00:52:17.880 I think that

00:52:20.060 Ukraine wants

00:52:20.940 enough

00:52:21.420 at least threat

00:52:22.960 of Crimea,

00:52:23.980 maybe a little

00:52:24.560 surrounded or something.

00:52:25.800 But I think that's

00:52:26.500 what they need

00:52:27.040 before they negotiate.

00:52:28.880 I think they don't

00:52:29.600 want to negotiate

00:52:30.240 until they've got

00:52:30.960 maybe a good

00:52:32.940 claim for

00:52:34.040 they could take

00:52:35.560 Crimea if they

00:52:36.300 pushed.

00:52:36.640 they might not

00:52:37.920 take it,

00:52:39.180 but they might be

00:52:40.480 surrounding it

00:52:41.340 and saying,

00:52:41.860 all right,

00:52:42.120 if you don't

00:52:42.560 negotiate what we

00:52:43.440 want, we're going

00:52:43.960 to take Crimea

00:52:44.560 and it's going

00:52:45.680 to be bloody.

00:52:46.840 So it's definitely

00:52:47.860 a negotiation

00:52:48.420 at this point,

00:52:49.420 not a war,

00:52:51.220 but not much news.

00:52:56.140 I saw that

00:52:57.180 as predicted

00:52:58.380 there will be a,

00:52:59.840 I guess Mark

00:53:00.460 Andreessen was

00:53:01.300 tweeting this recently.

00:53:02.500 He tweeted that

00:53:03.260 in our era,

00:53:04.220 new era of AI,

00:53:05.200 every child will

00:53:06.200 have an AI tutor

00:53:07.160 that is infinitely

00:53:08.680 patient,

00:53:09.340 infinitely knowledgeable

00:53:10.320 and infinitely

00:53:11.240 helpful.

00:53:12.580 And an AI company

00:53:14.640 that I've used

00:53:15.740 a little bit

00:53:16.220 called Synthesia

00:53:18.520 now has a tutor.

00:53:21.480 It's basically

00:53:22.100 an avatar.

00:53:22.840 You get to pick

00:53:23.380 your own avatar

00:53:24.000 and that avatar

00:53:25.480 will have conversations

00:53:27.440 with you

00:53:28.080 and teach you

00:53:28.820 individually

00:53:29.360 and that will be

00:53:32.520 better than

00:53:33.120 anything we've

00:53:34.960 ever seen.

00:53:36.200 Now, I guess

00:53:37.900 I have a little

00:53:38.900 skepticism

00:53:39.540 whether we'll

00:53:42.200 ever be as

00:53:42.880 happy listening

00:53:43.520 to people

00:53:44.220 on a screen

00:53:44.840 as we would

00:53:46.200 be people

00:53:47.120 in person.

00:53:48.900 And I suspect

00:53:50.020 it's going to be

00:53:50.600 a combination

00:53:51.140 of some people

00:53:52.420 who can only

00:53:53.220 learn from

00:53:53.760 other people

00:53:54.380 and some people

00:53:56.660 who actually

00:53:57.660 would love

00:53:58.120 to have it

00:53:58.440 on a screen.

00:53:59.580 Now, I'm the

00:54:00.160 kind of person

00:54:00.680 who might like it

00:54:02.060 on a screen

00:54:02.820 because I

00:54:03.940 can fast

00:54:04.460 forward it.

00:54:05.560 If you sit

00:54:06.460 in a classroom,

00:54:08.660 what percentage

00:54:09.400 of the time

00:54:10.000 that the teacher

00:54:10.640 is up there

00:54:11.100 doing something

00:54:11.780 is actually

00:54:12.880 education?

00:54:14.320 It's a very

00:54:15.000 small percent.

00:54:16.580 Right?

00:54:17.160 Of all their

00:54:18.140 talking and acting

00:54:19.060 and doing stuff,

00:54:20.340 yeah, maybe 25%

00:54:21.440 is actually teaching.

00:54:23.180 So if I could

00:54:23.780 just put my finger

00:54:24.540 on the screen

00:54:25.160 and go

00:54:25.520 up to the part

00:54:28.620 where something's

00:54:29.280 on the whiteboard

00:54:29.940 and you're

00:54:31.200 actually seeing

00:54:31.680 some graphics

00:54:32.260 and something

00:54:33.060 useful,

00:54:34.700 that'd be great.

00:54:36.020 You know, I would

00:54:36.620 think that even

00:54:37.200 something like math

00:54:38.300 could be turned

00:54:39.740 into a visual

00:54:41.320 lesson that would

00:54:45.620 just bring you

00:54:46.220 inside it like

00:54:47.300 you're inside a

00:54:47.880 machine.

00:54:49.080 And, you know,

00:54:49.420 you can see the

00:54:49.980 machine working.

00:54:50.900 There's addition.

00:54:52.640 There's calculus

00:54:53.540 back there.

00:54:54.160 I don't know.

00:54:54.960 There's probably

00:54:55.640 some way that even

00:54:56.520 something like math

00:54:57.480 could be taught

00:54:59.320 without making it

00:55:00.000 just memorization.

00:55:02.980 And then certainly

00:55:03.920 English and writing

00:55:04.940 and conversation

00:55:06.020 and language,

00:55:06.900 those things

00:55:07.380 would be easy

00:55:07.840 for the AI.

00:55:09.360 But math would be

00:55:10.120 a little challenging

00:55:10.920 because it's so boring.

00:55:12.380 The reason that

00:55:13.140 I think it would be

00:55:14.800 hard to get a kid

00:55:15.740 to use a screen,

00:55:17.080 maybe an adult can,

00:55:18.500 but to get a kid

00:55:19.260 to use a screen

00:55:20.140 is asking a lot

00:55:21.740 of their

00:55:22.360 self-control.

00:55:25.900 But if you put

00:55:26.660 them in a room

00:55:27.120 where there's a human

00:55:27.860 looking at it

00:55:28.760 and saying,

00:55:29.260 hey, Billy,

00:55:30.500 Billy,

00:55:31.260 eyes up here,

00:55:33.060 maybe you can

00:55:33.680 get them to pay

00:55:34.100 attention.

00:55:35.120 But if you put

00:55:35.840 a kid with a screen

00:55:36.860 alone in a room,

00:55:40.260 how much education

00:55:41.620 is going to happen?

00:55:44.460 I don't know

00:55:45.220 too many kids

00:55:45.960 who could learn

00:55:47.460 on their own

00:55:48.000 with a screen

00:55:48.720 no matter how

00:55:50.000 well designed

00:55:51.140 that screen is.

00:55:52.300 I don't know

00:55:52.740 kids who could

00:55:53.340 do that.

00:55:54.440 I do think

00:55:55.240 adults could do

00:55:55.940 that.

00:55:56.240 And I do

00:55:57.420 think that

00:55:57.880 it works

00:55:58.300 really well

00:55:58.720 to supplement

00:55:59.680 in-person

00:56:00.420 training.

00:56:01.580 But I don't

00:56:02.320 think you

00:56:02.620 could give

00:56:02.940 a kid

00:56:03.240 an iPad

00:56:03.640 and say,

00:56:04.180 go get

00:56:04.560 your education.

00:56:06.300 I mean,

00:56:06.560 so there's

00:56:07.540 certainly a limit

00:56:08.140 there.

00:56:09.640 They might

00:56:10.160 need a robot.

00:56:10.740 I think you

00:56:11.980 need a robot

00:56:12.620 tutor so the

00:56:13.380 robot can

00:56:13.860 actually look

00:56:14.400 at the kid

00:56:14.860 and say,

00:56:15.320 hey,

00:56:15.700 hey,

00:56:17.200 eyes up here.

00:56:19.280 It's robots.

00:56:20.300 I think it's

00:56:20.700 going to be

00:56:20.960 robots.

00:56:21.400 All right.

00:56:24.920 Here's Congress

00:56:25.800 being extra,

00:56:26.840 extra useless.

00:56:28.700 What have I

00:56:29.300 told you about

00:56:30.040 when politicians

00:56:30.940 say they're

00:56:31.480 going to form

00:56:32.640 a committee

00:56:33.120 to study

00:56:33.680 something?

00:56:34.780 What does

00:56:35.320 that mean?

00:56:36.120 We're going

00:56:36.460 to form a

00:56:36.980 committee to

00:56:37.520 study these

00:56:38.060 recommendations.

00:56:40.900 Well,

00:56:41.700 it means they

00:56:43.220 just want it

00:56:43.740 to go away.

00:56:45.080 It means they're

00:56:45.640 not trying to

00:56:46.260 solve it.

00:56:46.860 They just want

00:56:47.560 it to go away.

00:56:48.840 So I was not

00:56:49.720 aware of this,

00:56:50.440 but during

00:56:50.920 the debt

00:56:52.540 ceiling

00:56:54.180 negotiations

00:56:54.900 and the

00:56:56.000 budgeting

00:56:56.340 negotiations

00:56:57.180 there.

00:56:58.100 So Democrats

00:56:58.840 wanted to

00:56:59.700 have a deal

00:57:01.740 to immediately

00:57:02.340 mandate more

00:57:03.500 transmission

00:57:04.200 on the

00:57:05.580 electric grid.

00:57:06.900 And I may

00:57:07.640 have the

00:57:07.940 details wrong,

00:57:08.760 but I think

00:57:09.180 what the

00:57:09.520 Democrats

00:57:09.840 wanted was

00:57:11.360 to mandate

00:57:11.920 that the

00:57:12.520 various

00:57:13.000 companies that

00:57:14.320 own their

00:57:14.760 own transmission

00:57:15.580 facilities,

00:57:16.980 that they

00:57:17.400 connect with

00:57:18.040 each other.

00:57:18.820 I always

00:57:19.180 thought they

00:57:19.480 were,

00:57:19.880 but I

00:57:20.100 guess they're

00:57:20.380 not,

00:57:21.040 so that

00:57:21.760 they can

00:57:22.140 share energy

00:57:23.860 when there's

00:57:24.940 a shortage

00:57:25.400 in some

00:57:25.860 place and

00:57:26.340 somebody has

00:57:26.800 some extra.

00:57:27.840 Now,

00:57:28.160 apparently there's

00:57:28.760 some resistance

00:57:29.340 to this from

00:57:30.680 the industry

00:57:31.380 itself,

00:57:32.580 because I

00:57:33.520 think the

00:57:33.800 industry likes

00:57:34.520 more control

00:57:35.400 of their own

00:57:35.920 territory and

00:57:37.220 to not be

00:57:37.840 subject to the

00:57:39.240 demands of

00:57:39.820 their neighbor,

00:57:40.940 which I can

00:57:41.600 understand.

00:57:42.820 Because let's

00:57:43.280 say if they

00:57:43.800 have some energy

00:57:44.480 and it's a

00:57:44.960 high demand

00:57:45.520 period,

00:57:45.960 they can charge

00:57:46.480 more money.

00:57:46.960 But what

00:57:48.100 if the

00:57:48.360 neighbor says,

00:57:49.140 hey, we

00:57:49.820 want your

00:57:50.200 energy?

00:57:51.380 Well, then

00:57:51.740 they can't

00:57:52.180 charge more

00:57:52.620 money for it.

00:57:53.160 They probably

00:57:53.460 have some

00:57:53.800 deal where

00:57:54.760 they give it

00:57:55.160 to them at

00:57:55.540 a low price

00:57:56.680 or something.

00:57:57.740 So I think

00:57:58.660 they have to

00:57:59.020 study to

00:57:59.480 find out if

00:58:00.080 the industry

00:58:00.740 is going to

00:58:01.260 get killed

00:58:01.720 by it or

00:58:03.360 if it would

00:58:03.800 just be all

00:58:04.560 good.

00:58:05.940 And they've

00:58:06.780 decided that

00:58:07.400 they're going

00:58:07.740 to take two

00:58:08.600 and a half

00:58:08.860 years to

00:58:09.260 study it.

00:58:12.120 Two and a half

00:58:12.820 years to

00:58:13.640 study a proposal

00:58:14.400 that would

00:58:14.760 require the

00:58:15.420 nation's big

00:58:15.980 power regions

00:58:16.600 to share

00:58:18.380 energy during

00:58:19.080 the peak.

00:58:19.720 Two and a

00:58:20.060 half years to

00:58:21.520 study it.

00:58:23.960 Does that

00:58:24.680 sound like

00:58:25.180 Congress was

00:58:25.920 serious about

00:58:26.620 that at all?

00:58:28.180 At all?

00:58:29.600 No.

00:58:30.780 They were not

00:58:31.180 serious about

00:58:31.940 that.

00:58:32.660 They made

00:58:33.360 it go away.

00:58:35.120 So what do

00:58:36.040 you consider

00:58:36.560 one of our

00:58:37.160 biggest homeland

00:58:38.220 security risks?

00:58:39.600 I'll tell you

00:58:40.180 mine, the

00:58:41.780 energy grid.

00:58:42.480 I don't

00:58:43.700 think there's

00:58:44.140 much that we

00:58:45.520 need to get

00:58:46.000 right more

00:58:46.480 than the

00:58:46.780 energy grid.

00:58:47.920 Because if the

00:58:48.460 energy grid is

00:58:49.360 fixed, and by

00:58:50.640 the way, this

00:58:51.020 is an RFK

00:58:51.940 junior thing, he

00:58:54.740 says if you

00:58:55.300 fix the energy

00:58:55.940 grid, then green

00:58:57.400 energy actually

00:58:58.060 could work.

00:58:59.500 Because you

00:59:00.060 could be producing

00:59:00.820 it in one place

00:59:01.620 when the sun is

00:59:02.480 out and the

00:59:02.900 wind is blowing,

00:59:03.940 and then just

00:59:04.700 transport it to

00:59:05.540 where those

00:59:05.940 things are not

00:59:06.480 happening.

00:59:07.540 And then when it

00:59:08.140 reverses, transport

00:59:09.960 it back.

00:59:10.840 Now, there's a lot

00:59:11.480 of loss over

00:59:12.100 transportation, so

00:59:13.100 that has to be

00:59:14.140 managed.

00:59:14.740 But at the

00:59:15.100 very least, you

00:59:15.840 should be able to

00:59:16.280 transport it to

00:59:17.000 the neighboring

00:59:17.960 company's assets.

00:59:22.280 I don't know.

00:59:22.920 I don't have an

00:59:23.640 opinion yet if

00:59:24.400 it's a good

00:59:25.700 idea or a bad

00:59:26.540 idea the way it

00:59:27.380 was proposed,

00:59:28.840 but certainly

00:59:29.940 you need a

00:59:31.420 free market

00:59:32.100 where if

00:59:34.700 somebody has

00:59:35.160 some extra

00:59:35.680 energy and

00:59:36.800 someone else in

00:59:37.460 the country needs

00:59:38.140 it, what would

00:59:40.480 be the problem

00:59:41.000 with selling it

00:59:41.860 to it, just

00:59:43.100 that they could

00:59:43.540 sell it more

00:59:44.080 on their own

00:59:44.600 territory, I

00:59:45.340 guess.

00:59:46.020 But I feel like

00:59:46.860 the free market

00:59:47.500 in the long run

00:59:48.200 would be a better

00:59:48.720 idea.

00:59:49.580 But this looks

00:59:50.340 like maybe it's

00:59:50.900 not a free market.

00:59:52.180 It looks like it

00:59:52.800 might be mandated,

00:59:54.320 as in if you run

00:59:56.920 out of energy, you

00:59:57.980 can just demand that

00:59:58.980 your neighbor give

00:59:59.600 you some.

01:00:00.540 I don't know if

01:00:01.080 that's a good idea.

01:00:02.680 So there might be a

01:00:03.540 mandate part here

01:00:04.320 that's the sticker.

01:00:05.360 I don't know the

01:00:05.780 details.

01:00:06.860 I'm guessing the

01:00:07.620 mandate part's the

01:00:08.440 sticker.

01:00:08.700 Because the

01:00:09.320 Republicans wouldn't

01:00:10.100 say no to free

01:00:11.100 markets, would

01:00:12.420 they?

01:00:13.680 Would the

01:00:14.280 Republicans have a

01:00:15.440 problem with the

01:00:15.980 free market where

01:00:16.840 everybody could

01:00:18.080 simply buy and

01:00:19.160 sell as they

01:00:19.860 needed to?

01:00:21.300 So it can't be

01:00:22.080 that.

01:00:22.380 There must be some

01:00:22.960 details in here that

01:00:23.820 are obnoxious.

01:00:26.200 All right.

01:00:29.940 So MSNBC apparently

01:00:33.840 beat Fox in the

01:00:35.600 primetime viewing on

01:00:37.260 Monday night, which

01:00:39.500 is unusual.

01:00:40.620 So two things

01:00:41.260 happened.

01:00:41.640 One is that Tucker's

01:00:43.220 departure has really

01:00:44.240 slammed him in terms

01:00:47.180 of ratings.

01:00:48.500 Some say down a

01:00:49.520 third.

01:00:51.140 But Rachel Maddow

01:00:52.360 only does one show

01:00:53.200 a week, and I guess

01:00:55.520 that she just killed

01:00:56.240 it on Monday, and

01:00:57.280 she beat all of Fox.

01:00:59.600 All they'd have to do

01:01:00.680 is back up the truck

01:01:02.080 to Rachel Maddow and

01:01:03.300 put her on for five

01:01:04.800 nights a week, and she

01:01:06.740 would be beating Fox

01:01:07.680 News.

01:01:08.960 I did not see that

01:01:10.060 coming.

01:01:11.420 I did not see that

01:01:12.300 coming.

01:01:14.600 So Fox News has a

01:01:17.500 real problem.

01:01:18.520 I don't know what

01:01:18.980 they're going to do

01:01:19.440 about that.

01:01:20.920 All right.

01:01:21.380 Did you hear the

01:01:22.100 story that China is

01:01:23.660 planning on building an

01:01:24.740 eavesdropping station in

01:01:26.100 Cuba?

01:01:28.460 So it'll be 100 miles

01:01:29.560 off Florida, and they

01:01:30.280 could use it to monitor

01:01:31.920 communications in the

01:01:33.080 United States, at least

01:01:34.140 the southern U.S.?

01:01:34.980 How in the world do

01:01:37.220 we let that happen?

01:01:38.900 Now, it's not there

01:01:39.640 yet.

01:01:39.900 It's just, that's the

01:01:40.940 plan.

01:01:42.000 How in the world?

01:01:45.140 Like, I don't

01:01:46.140 understand this story.

01:01:49.200 How in the world does

01:01:51.740 Cuba think they can get

01:01:53.760 away with that?

01:01:56.700 Wouldn't you have to

01:01:57.840 invade Cuba to make

01:01:59.060 that a stop?

01:01:59.700 What kind of military

01:02:02.020 does Cuba have these

01:02:03.220 days?

01:02:04.120 Could they withstand an

01:02:05.120 American invasion?

01:02:07.620 Or a decapitation

01:02:09.240 strike?

01:02:10.800 Would that force us to

01:02:12.500 overthrow Cuba?

01:02:14.380 I think it would.

01:02:17.200 Oh, we could jam it?

01:02:18.260 Hmm, maybe.

01:02:20.120 I don't know how good

01:02:21.620 jamming is.

01:02:22.180 I don't think they

01:02:22.700 would consider building

01:02:23.820 it if we could jam it.

01:02:25.820 Now, I don't know if a

01:02:26.660 blockade is right.

01:02:27.480 I think we should, see,

01:02:29.260 this is a job for

01:02:30.160 Trump.

01:02:31.740 Imagine Biden versus

01:02:32.940 Trump.

01:02:35.280 Biden says to Cuba,

01:02:36.660 hey, get rid of those

01:02:38.540 things or we'll get mad

01:02:39.780 at you.

01:02:40.840 What does Cuba do?

01:02:42.340 Well, I don't know.

01:02:43.860 What if Trump says, if

01:02:45.520 Trump called Cuba, he'd

01:02:47.020 say, we're going to

01:02:48.600 decapitate you.

01:02:50.640 We're going to take out

01:02:51.360 your leadership if you

01:02:52.540 don't get rid of those

01:02:53.380 by Tuesday.

01:02:54.060 And what would Cuba

01:02:56.100 think?

01:02:56.560 Would they believe that

01:02:58.560 Trump would actually

01:02:59.280 decapitate their

01:03:00.280 leadership in the next

01:03:02.080 48 hours?

01:03:03.520 Yes, they would.

01:03:04.620 Yes, they would.

01:03:05.960 They wouldn't maybe

01:03:06.880 think it's 100%, but it's

01:03:10.120 that 10% thing.

01:03:11.860 And what does Cuba get?

01:03:13.780 Like, what is their

01:03:14.540 upside from working with

01:03:15.980 China?

01:03:17.120 I mean, I'm sure they

01:03:17.660 have trade and stuff,

01:03:19.360 but they couldn't

01:03:20.260 possibly be enough

01:03:21.260 upside to make that

01:03:22.720 worthwhile.

01:03:23.100 So, every time you see

01:03:25.700 a situation where you

01:03:26.640 know Trump would be

01:03:27.520 exactly the right

01:03:28.440 solution.

01:03:29.420 Now, I'm not saying

01:03:30.200 that, you know, Vivek

01:03:31.180 wouldn't be or that

01:03:32.320 DeSantis wouldn't be.

01:03:34.020 They also would

01:03:35.000 probably be tough.

01:03:36.100 But it's just that he

01:03:36.920 has that extra, I

01:03:39.420 don't know, the extra

01:03:40.220 scariness, the

01:03:41.800 unpredictability thing.

01:03:43.560 I just feel like Trump

01:03:44.780 would be able to sell

01:03:46.200 that threat better than

01:03:47.420 anybody could ever sell

01:03:48.400 a threat.

01:03:49.240 Because he's the

01:03:49.980 salesman.

01:03:50.400 he can sell a

01:03:51.240 threat.

01:03:53.380 All right.

01:03:56.600 Can you believe that

01:03:58.780 there are people going

01:03:59.780 on television and

01:04:00.840 saying that the

01:04:01.460 Canadian fire problem

01:04:02.880 is climate change?

01:04:06.500 And I honestly can't

01:04:08.820 tell if they know

01:04:10.380 they're full of shit.

01:04:13.000 Do you know?

01:04:14.600 Do they know that

01:04:15.840 that's not a thing?

01:04:17.760 Now, here's what I

01:04:18.360 mean by not a thing.

01:04:19.200 Climate change is

01:04:21.260 not what caused 15

01:04:22.840 fires to start at the

01:04:24.020 same time.

01:04:26.080 Climate change

01:04:26.960 doesn't set fires.

01:04:29.320 And there's no

01:04:30.520 direct, you know,

01:04:32.600 track from the

01:04:33.720 climate change to the

01:04:34.720 fires.

01:04:35.320 It's not like climate

01:04:36.820 change made more

01:04:37.880 electricity.

01:04:40.520 It's just more

01:04:41.500 lighting.

01:04:42.860 Nobody's saying that.

01:04:44.580 It was a perfectly

01:04:45.800 normal Canadian year,

01:04:47.080 and their forests

01:04:48.420 were maybe

01:04:49.000 undermanaged or

01:04:50.220 maybe they weren't

01:04:51.440 undermanaged because

01:04:52.940 apparently it's just

01:04:53.640 something that happens

01:04:54.280 once in a while.

01:04:55.020 It's not the first

01:04:56.120 time.

01:04:57.200 There's some historical

01:04:58.220 precedence for exactly

01:04:59.800 this happening before,

01:05:01.060 which I didn't know

01:05:01.900 until Jesse Waters said

01:05:03.260 it.

01:05:03.780 I assume he's right.

01:05:04.480 But when I watch the

01:05:07.800 climate people go on

01:05:11.000 TV, they act like

01:05:12.180 we're stupid.

01:05:13.960 Does anything bother

01:05:15.080 you more than stupid

01:05:16.720 people acting like

01:05:17.740 you're stupid?

01:05:18.260 I don't think there's

01:05:20.560 anything that gets

01:05:21.360 under my skin more

01:05:22.600 than that.

01:05:24.220 You know?

01:05:24.940 And I have this

01:05:26.620 problem a lot because

01:05:28.320 when you're...

01:05:29.980 I'll just say it

01:05:31.600 because I have no

01:05:33.460 shame, I'm smarter

01:05:35.680 than most people.

01:05:37.560 Right?

01:05:37.740 Probably so are

01:05:38.420 most of you.

01:05:39.700 Probably most of you

01:05:40.580 are smarter than

01:05:41.220 most people because

01:05:42.160 you're engaging in,

01:05:43.320 you know, stuff that

01:05:44.380 dumb people don't

01:05:45.360 engage in, just this

01:05:46.480 content.

01:05:47.300 So you're probably

01:05:47.900 smarter than most

01:05:48.640 people if you're

01:05:49.620 watching this.

01:05:51.620 So you probably have

01:05:52.680 this situation a lot

01:05:53.700 where dumb people are

01:05:55.400 treating you like

01:05:56.080 you're the idiot,

01:05:56.860 and what do you do?

01:05:58.800 Like, what do you

01:05:59.820 do with that?

01:06:01.280 Who is it?

01:06:03.260 Jayapal?

01:06:04.740 What's her name?

01:06:05.820 She's one of the

01:06:06.360 squad.

01:06:07.860 Jayapal?

01:06:08.600 Is that her name?

01:06:11.220 Yeah, and she's

01:06:12.640 acting like, how can

01:06:14.860 you ignore the

01:06:17.240 climate change now?

01:06:19.300 I mean, it's right in

01:06:20.480 your face.

01:06:21.040 It's so obvious.

01:06:22.840 And the whole time

01:06:23.780 I'm like, oh, God,

01:06:25.460 that's so squirmishly,

01:06:27.280 awkwardly dumb.

01:06:30.540 It's like dumb on a

01:06:31.540 level.

01:06:32.300 If you add arrogance

01:06:33.320 to dumb, you've got

01:06:36.040 a nuclear weapon

01:06:37.480 there.

01:06:38.360 Because she has

01:06:39.140 arrogance about her

01:06:40.580 intelligence and is

01:06:42.120 just really, really

01:06:43.480 dumb.

01:06:44.400 Because the thing

01:06:45.860 with the 15 fires is

01:06:47.100 you don't have to be

01:06:47.960 a scientist to know

01:06:50.560 that this wasn't

01:06:51.420 because of climate

01:06:52.380 change.

01:06:52.920 And I'm not even

01:06:53.480 making a claim about

01:06:55.480 climate change.

01:06:56.180 I'm not saying

01:06:57.220 that there is or

01:06:57.980 is not climate

01:06:58.640 change.

01:06:59.640 I'm saying that 15

01:07:00.800 fires starting at

01:07:01.740 once is not

01:07:02.420 climate change.

01:07:03.280 And anybody should

01:07:04.060 know that.

01:07:05.280 Everybody should

01:07:06.060 know that.

01:07:06.880 It's obvious.

01:07:09.080 And how in the

01:07:09.660 world?

01:07:12.880 So here's my

01:07:13.960 genuine question.

01:07:15.920 Do you think

01:07:16.400 that somebody like

01:07:17.080 Jayapal is just

01:07:19.540 being political and

01:07:20.460 pretending and

01:07:21.640 knows full well

01:07:22.500 that this is not

01:07:23.200 because of climate

01:07:23.840 change?

01:07:24.200 or is she in

01:07:26.520 some kind of

01:07:27.020 cognitive dissonance

01:07:28.080 where she actually

01:07:29.280 believes it is?

01:07:30.160 Because the people

01:07:30.900 around her say it

01:07:31.720 is and everybody

01:07:32.680 she talks to says

01:07:33.560 it is.

01:07:34.440 And so she's

01:07:34.980 convinced that it's

01:07:35.700 obvious and all the

01:07:36.580 smart people around

01:07:37.260 her say it's true.

01:07:39.240 What do you think?

01:07:40.700 Because she did not

01:07:41.580 look like she was

01:07:42.400 telling a political

01:07:43.140 lie to me.

01:07:44.660 To me she looked

01:07:45.460 like she was

01:07:45.900 actually disgusted

01:07:47.040 and feeling arrogant

01:07:49.060 about the poor

01:07:50.840 intelligence of the

01:07:51.620 people who think

01:07:52.160 that 15 fires

01:07:53.160 are started

01:07:53.580 automatically

01:07:54.280 because of

01:07:54.780 climate change.

01:07:57.520 I don't know.

01:07:58.480 I had such a

01:07:59.520 reaction to

01:08:01.140 watching dumb

01:08:01.720 people call me

01:08:02.400 dumb.

01:08:03.020 I just hate it.

01:08:05.420 When smart people

01:08:06.440 call me dumb

01:08:07.080 and I just gave

01:08:09.560 you the example

01:08:10.100 of that.

01:08:10.800 If Dershowitz

01:08:11.880 disagrees with me

01:08:12.840 I have no problem

01:08:15.060 saying he's the

01:08:15.780 smart one in the

01:08:16.480 conversation.

01:08:17.420 No problem at all.

01:08:18.480 But I'm not having

01:08:19.220 that with Jayapal.

01:08:19.960 She's not the

01:08:21.860 smart one in this

01:08:22.480 conversation.

01:08:24.340 All right.

01:08:26.960 So I tweeted

01:08:28.200 this and I

01:08:29.460 believe it to be

01:08:30.260 true.

01:08:31.940 But it may not

01:08:33.500 be true after

01:08:34.120 today.

01:08:35.040 So this is

01:08:35.600 something I

01:08:36.480 thought was true

01:08:37.080 one day ago.

01:08:38.600 So one day ago

01:08:39.600 I said that

01:08:40.600 RFK Jr.

01:08:41.420 has the

01:08:41.700 strongest path

01:08:42.500 to the

01:08:42.840 presidency.

01:08:43.760 That was one

01:08:44.520 day ago.

01:08:45.660 And a lot of

01:08:46.440 that had to do

01:08:46.960 with the fact

01:08:47.380 that he could

01:08:47.940 beat Trump

01:08:48.840 if he got

01:08:49.380 the nomination.

01:08:51.300 But now I'm

01:08:51.940 not so sure he

01:08:53.940 would run

01:08:54.280 against Trump

01:08:54.960 because the

01:08:56.680 box hoax gate

01:08:59.200 or whatever you

01:08:59.760 want to call it

01:09:00.360 that might

01:09:01.320 actually take

01:09:03.320 him out of the

01:09:03.680 race.

01:09:04.540 It's possible.

01:09:05.540 I'm not betting

01:09:06.180 on it.

01:09:07.160 So I'm not

01:09:07.720 predicting it will

01:09:08.480 take him out.

01:09:09.060 But it's possible.

01:09:10.520 So that does

01:09:11.320 change the

01:09:11.740 calculation.

01:09:12.800 So here's the

01:09:13.360 calculation that

01:09:14.040 says RFK Jr.

01:09:14.980 has the strongest

01:09:15.580 path to the

01:09:16.220 presidency.

01:09:16.660 And before

01:09:17.820 you say it,

01:09:18.840 I want to tell

01:09:19.480 you that I'm

01:09:20.040 aware of the

01:09:20.660 fact that you

01:09:21.900 don't know any

01:09:22.580 Democrats who

01:09:23.280 want him to be

01:09:23.800 president.

01:09:24.500 Can we stipulate

01:09:25.240 that you don't

01:09:26.740 know any

01:09:27.140 Democrats who

01:09:28.680 want him to be

01:09:29.320 president?

01:09:29.800 I get that.

01:09:31.120 It doesn't have

01:09:31.660 anything to do

01:09:32.180 with my prediction.

01:09:33.500 Completely

01:09:33.900 unrelated.

01:09:35.360 All right.

01:09:36.300 So here's why I

01:09:37.360 think he has the

01:09:37.800 strongest path.

01:09:39.040 He's the only

01:09:39.700 person who's

01:09:40.280 polling high who's

01:09:41.520 actually in the

01:09:42.240 race on the

01:09:43.280 Democrat side.

01:09:44.060 So give me a

01:09:45.580 fact check as I

01:09:46.540 go.

01:09:46.940 These are the

01:09:47.420 assumptions I'm

01:09:48.080 basing this on.

01:09:49.140 He's the only one

01:09:50.140 with enough support

01:09:51.180 that if Biden

01:09:52.680 disappeared for

01:09:53.480 some reason before

01:09:54.340 the primaries,

01:09:56.640 he would be the

01:09:58.660 obvious one.

01:10:00.020 Now, some other

01:10:00.860 people would jump

01:10:01.500 in, but by then

01:10:03.700 they would have

01:10:04.180 lost a lot of

01:10:05.100 time, whereas

01:10:06.640 RFK Jr.

01:10:07.340 would have created

01:10:08.220 his whole brand

01:10:09.000 and people would

01:10:09.560 know what he's

01:10:10.020 about by about

01:10:10.980 that time.

01:10:11.360 So my assumption

01:10:14.340 is that Biden

01:10:15.780 is not going

01:10:16.660 to make it

01:10:17.180 physically, he's

01:10:18.920 not going to

01:10:19.260 make it through

01:10:19.700 the nomination

01:10:20.400 process.

01:10:22.020 So the first

01:10:23.020 part of it is

01:10:23.840 Biden's health,

01:10:24.800 which seems so

01:10:25.580 obviously degraded

01:10:26.980 that I don't

01:10:27.820 think the

01:10:28.140 Democrats even

01:10:28.840 want to take a

01:10:29.420 chance on him.

01:10:30.720 And I don't

01:10:31.320 think they want

01:10:31.740 to take a

01:10:32.100 chance on

01:10:32.600 President Kamala

01:10:33.540 Harris.

01:10:34.840 So I'm going

01:10:36.320 to say there's

01:10:36.920 a 75% chance

01:10:38.740 Biden does not

01:10:40.780 make it to the

01:10:41.360 primary to be

01:10:42.040 the actual

01:10:42.460 candidate.

01:10:43.920 If he doesn't,

01:10:45.880 RFK Jr.

01:10:46.920 would be the

01:10:48.300 most obvious

01:10:49.100 replacement.

01:10:50.820 If he gets the

01:10:51.820 nomination, will

01:10:52.700 he also get

01:10:53.380 Democrat votes?

01:10:55.260 Of course he

01:10:56.140 will, because

01:10:57.220 he's a Democrat

01:10:57.820 and because he's

01:10:58.880 not Trump.

01:10:59.880 If you assume

01:11:00.780 Trump wins,

01:11:02.100 that assumption

01:11:03.020 is under question

01:11:03.920 because of the

01:11:05.760 legal stuff.

01:11:06.900 If you assume

01:11:07.740 he's running

01:11:08.060 against Trump,

01:11:08.920 his numbers

01:11:09.480 show he kills

01:11:10.120 Trump, he

01:11:11.200 would destroy

01:11:11.720 probably better

01:11:12.420 than Biden

01:11:12.880 would.

01:11:14.820 So the

01:11:15.480 Democrats are

01:11:16.100 going to have

01:11:16.360 a choice of

01:11:17.100 somebody who

01:11:17.620 would definitely

01:11:18.180 be Trump

01:11:18.960 versus somebody

01:11:20.480 who might not

01:11:21.020 even survive

01:11:22.080 and if died,

01:11:24.380 Kamala Harris

01:11:24.920 would be the

01:11:25.520 leader.

01:11:26.500 Do you think

01:11:26.900 the Democrats

01:11:27.480 are going to

01:11:28.420 allow that

01:11:29.280 level of risk

01:11:30.300 to themselves

01:11:32.060 to put

01:11:33.480 themselves in

01:11:34.000 that situation?

01:11:35.260 Well, they

01:11:36.140 also have a

01:11:36.640 problem with

01:11:37.060 RFK Jr.

01:11:37.760 who wants

01:11:38.380 to rip

01:11:39.040 apart maybe

01:11:40.720 the CIA

01:11:41.320 and some

01:11:41.860 things they

01:11:42.260 love and

01:11:43.140 close the

01:11:43.600 border and

01:11:44.040 stuff.

01:11:44.780 So he's

01:11:45.220 not the

01:11:46.460 ideal choice

01:11:47.240 of the deep

01:11:47.780 state, but

01:11:49.040 if he gets

01:11:49.480 the nomination,

01:11:50.320 the rank and

01:11:50.780 file and the

01:11:51.600 Democrats are

01:11:52.200 just going to

01:11:52.600 vote.

01:11:53.060 They're just

01:11:53.400 going to line

01:11:53.840 up and vote

01:11:54.480 for him.

01:11:55.800 So I think

01:11:57.820 that Biden's

01:11:58.440 health will

01:11:58.820 fail, 75%

01:12:00.020 chance.

01:12:00.700 I think the

01:12:01.360 most likely

01:12:01.940 stand-in for

01:12:03.080 the nomination

01:12:03.680 would be

01:12:04.140 RFK Jr.

01:12:05.400 If he's

01:12:06.520 running against

01:12:07.180 Trump, he

01:12:08.800 wins, according

01:12:10.620 to the polls.

01:12:11.780 He's got a

01:12:12.420 dominant

01:12:12.780 advantage.

01:12:15.220 And if it's

01:12:16.780 not Trump

01:12:17.460 and it's

01:12:18.840 DeSantis, I

01:12:21.900 heard somebody

01:12:22.460 say this

01:12:22.900 yesterday.

01:12:24.380 If it's

01:12:24.900 DeSantis

01:12:25.420 versus RFK

01:12:27.980 Jr., I'm

01:12:30.640 going to

01:12:30.800 start liking

01:12:31.340 my country

01:12:31.920 again.

01:12:32.280 I like

01:12:33.940 my country.

01:12:34.720 But that

01:12:36.860 would be

01:12:37.340 one of the

01:12:37.960 strongest

01:12:38.480 contests we

01:12:40.800 have ever

01:12:41.120 seen.

01:12:41.860 Now, I

01:12:42.520 don't agree

01:12:43.040 with RFK

01:12:43.620 Jr.'s

01:12:44.260 policies on

01:12:45.440 stuff.

01:12:46.560 I'm not

01:12:47.180 entirely sure

01:12:48.020 what DeSantis

01:12:48.980 is and whether

01:12:49.600 I agree or

01:12:50.440 disagree on

01:12:50.920 anything there.

01:12:52.120 But policy

01:12:53.680 aside, they

01:12:55.240 are two

01:12:55.900 serious

01:12:56.760 American

01:12:57.740 patriots

01:12:58.420 who I

01:12:59.820 would feel

01:13:00.300 proud to

01:13:01.080 have as

01:13:01.440 my president.

01:13:02.280 I would

01:13:03.880 feel proud to

01:13:05.360 have either

01:13:05.920 one of them

01:13:06.400 as my

01:13:06.880 president.

01:13:07.280 I would

01:13:07.460 also feel

01:13:07.880 confident that

01:13:09.200 they can

01:13:09.520 handle the

01:13:10.020 job.

01:13:11.140 And I

01:13:11.560 would feel

01:13:11.940 confident that

01:13:13.160 they're

01:13:13.880 operating in

01:13:14.780 the interest

01:13:15.180 of the

01:13:15.460 country.

01:13:16.280 Of course

01:13:16.860 everybody looks

01:13:17.540 out for

01:13:17.820 themselves as

01:13:18.440 well.

01:13:19.080 But I

01:13:19.380 would think

01:13:19.720 that unlike

01:13:20.740 Biden, where

01:13:21.780 I actually

01:13:22.240 don't know if

01:13:22.960 he's looking

01:13:23.340 out for the

01:13:23.880 benefit of the

01:13:24.520 country.

01:13:25.180 I actually

01:13:26.020 don't know

01:13:26.640 because of

01:13:28.000 all the bribery

01:13:28.600 stuff.

01:13:28.960 I just

01:13:29.960 don't know.

01:13:31.640 So I

01:13:33.560 think that

01:13:33.900 would be an

01:13:34.480 amazingly

01:13:35.140 healthy

01:13:35.920 situation.

01:13:37.620 So it

01:13:38.180 always seems

01:13:38.560 like we're

01:13:39.440 at the

01:13:39.920 edge of

01:13:40.320 doom.

01:13:41.560 But just

01:13:41.900 imagine for

01:13:43.040 a minute

01:13:43.400 that, imagine

01:13:46.060 for a minute

01:13:46.580 if Trump

01:13:47.780 gets taken

01:13:48.340 out, that

01:13:49.460 you're going

01:13:49.720 to see a

01:13:50.120 contest on

01:13:50.780 the Republican

01:13:51.300 side between

01:13:52.920 DeSantis and

01:13:53.860 Vivek.

01:13:54.980 Wouldn't you

01:13:55.340 love to see

01:13:55.780 that?

01:13:56.000 Vivek adds

01:13:57.700 so much to

01:13:59.820 the political

01:14:01.140 philosophical

01:14:02.560 thought on

01:14:03.380 the right,

01:14:04.460 the way he

01:14:04.960 frames things,

01:14:05.980 the way he

01:14:06.320 does maybe

01:14:08.240 the best job

01:14:09.180 of communicating

01:14:09.960 we've seen

01:14:10.600 on a

01:14:10.960 Republican.

01:14:13.180 I would

01:14:13.980 love, just

01:14:14.960 love to see

01:14:16.100 the Republicans

01:14:16.840 sharpen their

01:14:17.880 tools by

01:14:19.980 having those

01:14:20.560 two characters

01:14:21.240 go at each

01:14:21.880 other hard.

01:14:23.000 Wouldn't that

01:14:23.400 be the best?

01:14:24.660 A nice

01:14:25.200 free, fair,

01:14:27.420 polite, but

01:14:29.640 hard fight

01:14:31.900 between those

01:14:32.560 two characters.

01:14:34.020 And again,

01:14:35.280 whichever of

01:14:35.900 those two

01:14:36.340 won, I'd

01:14:37.160 be pretty

01:14:37.480 happy.

01:14:39.320 I'd be

01:14:39.960 pretty happy

01:14:40.440 with that.

01:14:41.020 The only

01:14:41.380 person I

01:14:41.860 absolutely

01:14:42.440 don't want

01:14:43.020 to be

01:14:43.240 president is

01:14:44.120 Biden.

01:14:45.880 Or

01:14:46.300 Comalance,

01:14:47.080 they're sort

01:14:47.620 of the same

01:14:48.040 animal.

01:14:48.800 It's sort

01:14:49.320 of a Biden

01:14:50.100 Harris

01:14:50.620 creature.

01:14:52.240 It's like

01:14:52.580 one creature

01:14:53.200 that's a

01:14:53.960 combination of

01:14:54.560 the two of

01:14:54.960 them.

01:14:55.640 So there's

01:14:56.080 not even a

01:14:56.600 Biden or

01:14:57.220 a Harris.

01:14:58.380 At this

01:14:58.980 point, there's

01:14:59.460 a Biden

01:15:00.080 Harris.

01:15:01.260 It's like

01:15:01.820 one creature

01:15:02.480 with two

01:15:02.900 heads.

01:15:03.920 I don't

01:15:04.500 want that.

01:15:05.780 I do not

01:15:06.300 want that to

01:15:06.840 be my

01:15:07.180 president.

01:15:11.940 But RFK

01:15:12.900 Jr., I

01:15:13.740 would feel

01:15:14.700 like the

01:15:15.200 country was

01:15:15.720 in good

01:15:16.000 hands, even

01:15:16.680 if I

01:15:16.980 didn't like

01:15:17.420 every single

01:15:18.000 thing he

01:15:18.360 did.

01:15:19.060 I would

01:15:19.340 still feel

01:15:19.760 like

01:15:20.000 rationality

01:15:20.920 was winning

01:15:21.460 and maybe

01:15:22.980 I should

01:15:23.340 look at my

01:15:23.960 own opinions

01:15:24.880 harder if

01:15:25.840 he disagrees.

01:15:27.520 That's the

01:15:28.300 ultimate test.

01:15:29.120 Here's the

01:15:29.460 ultimate test

01:15:30.060 of a leader.

01:15:31.440 I guess it's

01:15:32.120 the Dershowitz

01:15:32.700 test.

01:15:33.480 The ultimate

01:15:33.960 test of a

01:15:34.520 leader is if

01:15:35.040 they disagree

01:15:35.600 with you, it

01:15:36.100 makes you

01:15:36.420 rethink your

01:15:37.040 position.

01:15:37.500 That's the

01:15:39.900 ultimate test.

01:15:41.780 That's the

01:15:42.340 best a

01:15:43.280 politician can

01:15:44.020 be.

01:15:45.040 They disagree

01:15:45.600 and you

01:15:46.080 immediately say,

01:15:47.120 well, let me

01:15:47.900 think about

01:15:48.260 that.

01:15:49.320 I had not

01:15:49.820 thought of it

01:15:50.660 that way, but

01:15:51.260 now that you've

01:15:51.760 presented it, I'm

01:15:52.360 going to think

01:15:52.640 about it that

01:15:53.040 way.

01:15:53.620 That's the

01:15:54.060 best you can

01:15:54.740 do.

01:15:55.260 And RFK

01:15:55.740 Jr. does

01:15:56.280 that like

01:15:56.740 crazy.

01:15:57.760 Vivek can do

01:15:58.600 that.

01:15:59.140 I think

01:15:59.400 DeSantis can

01:16:00.060 do that.

01:16:00.520 I think

01:16:00.740 Trump does

01:16:01.260 that.

01:16:03.200 Those are

01:16:04.200 really, really

01:16:05.060 good leadership

01:16:05.780 qualities.

01:16:06.500 I think they

01:16:06.860 all have

01:16:07.340 that.

01:16:08.040 We've never

01:16:08.580 had a better

01:16:09.080 batch of

01:16:09.840 candidates.

01:16:14.120 So what

01:16:14.700 about Chris

01:16:15.200 Christie,

01:16:15.700 huh?

01:16:17.860 I'm trying

01:16:18.460 to figure out

01:16:18.920 what the

01:16:19.220 play is for

01:16:20.120 Chris Christie.

01:16:21.580 It's got to

01:16:22.220 be just for

01:16:22.720 speaking

01:16:23.200 engagements.

01:16:25.220 Maybe

01:16:25.660 speaking

01:16:26.120 engagements.

01:16:27.520 Maybe

01:16:27.960 somebody who

01:16:28.600 hates Trump

01:16:29.160 wants to

01:16:29.720 just rough

01:16:31.240 him up a

01:16:31.660 little bit,

01:16:32.120 so that's

01:16:32.440 just one

01:16:32.760 way to do

01:16:33.200 it.

01:16:34.340 I don't

01:16:34.620 know.

01:16:35.700 I don't

01:16:36.260 even know

01:16:36.620 what that's

01:16:37.340 about.

01:16:37.900 He couldn't

01:16:38.280 possibly think

01:16:39.100 that he's

01:16:40.080 going to

01:16:40.300 win,

01:16:40.880 right?

01:16:42.160 And then,

01:16:42.860 of course,

01:16:45.040 so this

01:16:48.540 should tell

01:16:48.920 you everything

01:16:49.340 you need to

01:16:49.880 know about

01:16:50.260 Christie.

01:16:51.380 So Christie

01:16:52.340 announces he's

01:16:54.000 going to run,

01:16:54.880 and in theory,

01:16:56.020 that should be

01:16:56.440 his big publicity

01:16:57.360 day, right?

01:16:58.640 So DeSantis

01:16:59.420 announced he got

01:17:00.340 big publicity.

01:17:01.960 Vivek did.

01:17:02.680 basically when

01:17:03.580 you announce

01:17:04.060 you're going

01:17:04.380 to run,

01:17:04.700 that's your

01:17:04.960 big publicity

01:17:05.580 day.

01:17:06.300 So Christie

01:17:06.840 announces he's

01:17:07.660 going to run,

01:17:08.340 but what was

01:17:08.980 the story?

01:17:10.560 What was the

01:17:11.280 story on the

01:17:11.880 day he announced

01:17:12.440 he was going

01:17:12.800 to run?

01:17:14.120 The story was

01:17:15.140 that Trump

01:17:15.560 called him

01:17:16.040 fat.

01:17:21.960 And he

01:17:22.460 didn't even,

01:17:23.240 like,

01:17:23.620 Trump did

01:17:24.300 this,

01:17:24.760 you know,

01:17:25.120 like,

01:17:25.480 juvenile thing

01:17:26.480 where he was

01:17:27.260 like,

01:17:27.500 wow,

01:17:27.700 he sure

01:17:28.120 mentions,

01:17:28.820 you know,

01:17:29.480 size a lot.

01:17:30.900 Why does he

01:17:31.560 have some

01:17:32.060 obsession with

01:17:34.100 size?

01:17:35.100 And of course

01:17:35.820 that makes

01:17:36.200 you think

01:17:36.660 of Christie's

01:17:38.140 size,

01:17:38.620 which makes

01:17:39.000 you think

01:17:39.360 he's fat.

01:17:40.080 And the

01:17:40.380 funny thing

01:17:40.740 is,

01:17:41.300 Trump is

01:17:41.700 not exactly

01:17:42.380 svelte.

01:17:44.440 You know,

01:17:44.660 Trump's got

01:17:45.160 a few pounds

01:17:46.900 on him,

01:17:47.680 and somehow

01:17:48.780 he still gets

01:17:49.540 away with it.

01:17:51.040 Like,

01:17:51.500 the only thing

01:17:52.080 I heard about

01:17:52.600 that Chris

01:17:53.240 Christie is,

01:17:54.320 let me tell

01:17:55.220 you about

01:17:55.560 his policies.

01:17:57.700 Chris Christie's

01:17:58.580 policies.

01:17:59.160 I'm sure

01:17:59.460 I have

01:17:59.740 these here.

01:18:01.720 In his

01:18:02.440 quotes,

01:18:03.580 did he say

01:18:04.740 anything?

01:18:05.880 Was there

01:18:06.380 any takeaway?

01:18:08.000 Oh,

01:18:08.260 wait,

01:18:08.480 here's something

01:18:08.900 from Trump

01:18:09.400 calling him

01:18:09.880 fat.

01:18:11.000 Well,

01:18:11.220 that's

01:18:11.440 interesting.

01:18:12.680 Now I'm

01:18:13.120 all in on

01:18:13.560 this story.

01:18:15.880 Trump

01:18:16.360 already took

01:18:16.880 him out.

01:18:18.060 Trump

01:18:18.380 took him

01:18:18.720 out with

01:18:19.040 one tweet

01:18:19.660 that got

01:18:20.340 criticized

01:18:20.800 for being

01:18:21.540 juvenile.

01:18:22.820 Sure,

01:18:23.980 it was

01:18:24.300 very juvenile.

01:18:25.880 I would

01:18:26.560 definitely

01:18:26.960 agree.

01:18:27.700 It was

01:18:28.260 uncalled

01:18:28.720 for.

01:18:29.380 It was

01:18:29.860 unprofessional

01:18:30.620 and unstatesman

01:18:31.680 like.

01:18:33.180 And it

01:18:34.120 ruined

01:18:34.460 Christie's

01:18:35.300 chances

01:18:35.660 forever.

01:18:37.100 And it

01:18:37.680 totally

01:18:37.900 worked.

01:18:40.000 He's not

01:18:40.680 a bully

01:18:41.080 because it

01:18:41.620 doesn't

01:18:42.000 work.

01:18:44.380 He's got

01:18:45.000 a lifetime

01:18:45.340 of bullying.

01:18:45.960 He knows

01:18:46.240 it works.

01:18:47.580 He knows

01:18:47.920 it works.

01:18:48.840 That's why

01:18:49.160 he does

01:18:49.440 it.

01:18:50.940 All right.

01:18:51.220 and that

01:18:53.780 ladies and

01:18:54.260 gentlemen

01:18:54.540 is the

01:18:56.440 presentation

01:18:57.000 I was

01:18:57.460 prepared to

01:18:57.920 give you.

01:18:58.820 Is there

01:18:59.120 any news

01:18:59.600 that I

01:18:59.880 missed today?

01:19:00.560 Any big

01:19:00.920 news that

01:19:01.520 you think

01:19:01.840 I should

01:19:02.160 weigh in

01:19:02.600 on?

01:19:02.820 Because

01:19:03.200 just

01:19:05.740 because

01:19:06.080 Tucker.

01:19:11.280 Oh,

01:19:11.460 Tucker.

01:19:12.300 Is there a

01:19:12.860 second video

01:19:13.480 from Tucker

01:19:14.140 today?

01:19:15.000 Did I see

01:19:15.480 that just

01:19:15.860 before I

01:19:16.260 came on?

01:19:17.000 Has

01:19:17.200 anybody

01:19:17.400 listened to

01:19:17.840 it yet?

01:19:18.120 What's

01:19:18.300 the topic?

01:19:20.000 Oh,

01:19:20.160 yesterday it

01:19:20.580 came on?

01:19:22.580 Yeah,

01:19:22.840 I was a

01:19:23.160 little

01:19:23.280 in a

01:19:23.620 touch

01:19:23.840 yesterday.

01:19:24.600 It's

01:19:25.080 about,

01:19:25.760 what's

01:19:26.940 it about?

01:19:30.260 Oh,

01:19:30.860 okay.

01:19:31.500 It's about

01:19:32.000 taboos and

01:19:32.840 child,

01:19:33.500 okay.

01:19:34.660 I don't

01:19:34.920 want to

01:19:35.080 talk about

01:19:35.780 that stuff.

01:19:37.340 All right.

01:19:39.540 Yeah,

01:19:40.080 the simultaneous

01:19:40.540 erupting files

01:19:41.680 I mentioned.

01:19:44.620 Oh,

01:19:45.140 the global

01:19:45.680 health

01:19:46.100 passport.

01:19:46.900 Okay,

01:19:47.200 let's talk

01:19:47.560 about that.

01:19:48.220 So the

01:19:48.440 World Health

01:19:48.960 Organization

01:19:49.580 wants to

01:19:50.020 have a

01:19:50.340 global

01:19:50.880 health

01:19:51.500 passport,

01:19:52.620 which

01:19:53.080 presumably

01:19:53.680 they could

01:19:54.220 turn on

01:19:54.720 and off

01:19:55.120 if there's

01:19:55.520 a pandemic

01:19:56.020 and restrict

01:19:57.020 your travel.

01:19:58.800 What do

01:19:59.320 you think

01:19:59.520 of that?

01:20:00.180 Do you

01:20:00.380 think the

01:20:00.680 United States

01:20:01.420 is going

01:20:01.740 to sign

01:20:02.060 up for

01:20:02.420 a global

01:20:03.040 passport?

01:20:05.340 No.

01:20:07.420 So I

01:20:08.100 didn't talk

01:20:08.500 about that

01:20:08.840 story because

01:20:09.360 I don't

01:20:09.660 find it

01:20:10.360 real.

01:20:11.420 I don't

01:20:12.000 think there's

01:20:12.400 any chance

01:20:12.880 the United

01:20:13.240 States will

01:20:14.020 sign up

01:20:14.780 for a

01:20:15.320 world

01:20:15.580 health

01:20:15.880 organization

01:20:16.540 China

01:20:17.680 sponsored

01:20:18.360 restriction

01:20:20.400 on travel.

01:20:23.480 I don't

01:20:24.120 know.

01:20:24.620 I mean,

01:20:25.040 I could be

01:20:25.460 wrong.

01:20:26.160 Maybe the

01:20:26.640 Democrats

01:20:27.180 might.

01:20:28.260 But to me,

01:20:28.960 it's just

01:20:29.240 another reason

01:20:29.860 to assume

01:20:30.940 that Trump

01:20:31.980 or a

01:20:32.360 Republican

01:20:32.700 will get

01:20:33.040 elected.

01:20:35.280 Yeah.

01:20:35.960 So I

01:20:36.480 don't think

01:20:37.100 that story

01:20:37.780 is...

01:20:40.480 Jimmy

01:20:40.800 Doerr is on

01:20:41.400 the Ukraine

01:20:41.860 hit list?

01:20:42.720 What?

01:20:43.920 Was he

01:20:44.440 anti-Ukraine?

01:20:50.180 Do you

01:20:50.800 see

01:20:50.980 Bremer's

01:20:51.580 response to

01:20:52.300 Tucker's

01:20:52.800 initial video?

01:20:53.640 Oh,

01:20:54.580 yeah,

01:20:55.120 Ian

01:20:55.340 Bremer has

01:20:55.900 a response

01:20:56.540 to Tucker's

01:20:57.600 initial video,

01:20:59.080 which

01:20:59.380 Ian actually

01:21:01.340 sent me the

01:21:02.020 link to

01:21:02.920 make sure I

01:21:03.660 saw it.

01:21:04.260 And it was

01:21:04.740 my birthday

01:21:05.220 yesterday,

01:21:05.580 so I didn't

01:21:05.960 do any

01:21:06.240 work.

01:21:06.500 So I'm

01:21:09.200 a little...

01:21:09.940 I'm like

01:21:10.320 24 hours

01:21:10.920 behind,

01:21:11.760 just because

01:21:12.420 I was

01:21:12.860 enjoying

01:21:13.180 myself

01:21:13.560 yesterday.

01:21:15.040 All right.

01:21:15.920 I'll look

01:21:16.800 into that,

01:21:17.260 though.

01:21:17.380 I want to

01:21:17.740 see that,

01:21:18.400 because I

01:21:18.800 know he's

01:21:19.120 got a

01:21:19.360 different

01:21:19.580 take on

01:21:20.140 Ukraine.

01:21:21.900 And I

01:21:22.500 think his

01:21:22.840 takes are

01:21:23.360 worth looking

01:21:24.020 at.

01:21:27.860 All right.

01:21:32.120 YouTube,

01:21:32.780 thanks for

01:21:33.180 joining.

01:21:33.700 I will see

01:21:34.220 you tomorrow.

01:21:36.500 I'll see you tomorrow.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - June 09, 2023

Episode 2134 Scott Adams： Trump Gets Indicted & Takes Pence Out Of The Race, UFOs, Cuba & China

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