Episode 2145 Scott Adams: Trump Interview, Scientists Who Can't Debate, Loneliness Kills? Woke Oscar
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1 hour and 4 minutes
Summary
In this episode, Scott Adams talks about a recent Wall Street Journal article that says people who eat a lot of processed foods are more likely to get cancer and die sooner. Does that make sense? And why is that bad news?
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Today's theme for my live stream will be science.
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Science and everything it does right, because science is perfect.
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You know, it's funny, science has never made a mistake.
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It might be a little closer to the opposite of that.
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All right, here's a story from the Wall Street Journal that shows that people who eat a bunch
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If the more processed foods you eat, the more likely you are to get cancer and other stuff
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That they found that people who eat the processed foods are the most likely to die sooner.
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Just on the surface, you don't know anything about it.
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If you were to take all the people who eat processed foods, put them in one group, and
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then you took all the people who never eat processed foods or avoid it as much as they can, put
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them in another group, what would be different about those groups in addition to their diets?
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Well, the obesity would be caused in part by the processed foods.
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So that's true, but that's not what I'm looking for.
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Don't you think that the people who avoid processed foods intentionally, just bear with me, if you're
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a person who would intentionally avoid processed foods, isn't it likely that you would also
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intentionally do everything else that's good for you?
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You'd probably watch how much protein to carbs you eat.
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You'd probably do everything that's good for you and nothing that's bad for you.
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And are you surprised that those people live longer?
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Now, I've been doing some personal experimentation with trying to avoid processed foods because
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I have some kind of weird allergy to something that's in a lot of processed foods, sulfites.
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And I discovered that when I stopped eating processed foods, exactly as the Wall Street Journal
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I had plenty of food, but I just ate, you know, like a salmon and a piece of broccoli
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So basically, no processed foods, and I was not hungry ever.
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I would have to eat dinner just because it was time to eat dinner.
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Think about going from hungry all the time, which was, I guess that was my default for
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Most of my life, I don't remember not being hungry.
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But as soon as you stop eating the processed foods, it just leaves your mind.
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You just don't even think of hunger until you're really, really hungry, and then you do,
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So I would say my experience with processed foods and avoiding them is I had an immediate,
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And so last night I experimented with some soy sauce on some sushi, and my head swelled up,
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As soon as I added just a little bit of processed stuff, the soy sauce, my head swelled up and
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So I would give you this following recommendation.
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You know, I'm not a doctor, so I don't give you health recommendations per se, but I will
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You should experiment with your diet all the time.
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Just never stop, because you're always learning new things and finding out new things.
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So you should always be saying, all right, let me try a week, and I'll take dairy out of
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Do you remember when they had the commercials that said you can lose weight eating Subway?
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And I thought, that can't possibly be true, because it's mostly this big piece of bread.
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How in the world could you lose weight eating Safeway?
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Where I'd say, all right, I'll replace two meals a week with my favorite 12-inch Subway.
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And if the only thing I do is replace two meals a week with a Subway, I actually lost weight.
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So that's an example of an experiment that could change your whole life.
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Experimenting with your diet is probably one of the most effective things you can do for your happiness and success.
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But I'm not sure this specific study was necessarily telling you what you needed to know.
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So there's a study saying there's a very high correlation that lonely people, the most socially isolated, have a much higher risk of dying early.
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The people who don't have friends and are isolated are the ones who die soonest.
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We're going to take two groups of people, and they're going to be standing in a public square.
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But we'll make them stand together anyway because it's funny.
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The people with lots of friends will look attractive and healthy.
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People like to be around attractive, healthy people who've, you know, got something going on.
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Basically, all the things that signal good health are exactly the things that draw people to you.
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That's what makes you a magnet for other people.
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Because they go, oh, here's somebody who has no problems.
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I think I'd like to hang around with that person.
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So again, while I do believe that loneliness is dangerous, just like I do believe that processed foods are bad for you,
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Because in science there's too many other things that could cause this bad health.
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Hey, do you want to get together and play some tennis tomorrow?
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I just came back from the doctors and looks like I'll have another week in bed.
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All right, let's talk about the worst prediction I ever made that was close to the best.
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So here's a prediction I got 100% wrong, but it turns out it was so close to being an amazing right prediction.
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It has to do with my prediction that even though Putin had amassed a war machine on the border of Ukraine,
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I said until the day they crossed the border, I said he wasn't going to do it.
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Now, that looks pretty stupid by today's perspective, right?
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I mean, everybody else said, everybody, everybody said he's obviously going to attack.
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Just like you do when you put your army on the border.
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So today we find out, or yesterday, RFK Jr. was tweeting about it,
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Israel's Prime Minister Bennett went to Moscow to work on a deal,
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So he made a deal that Zelensky and Putin were both willing to accept to end the war.
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And in broad strokes, it looked like Zelensky would agree to not join NATO.
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They would have some stability about where the current border was.
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So I was this close to having one of the most amazing predictions,
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And it turns out that neither Zelensky nor Putin wanted it to happen,
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Because the United States and maybe some other countries,
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decided they wanted the war more than they wanted the peace.
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They wanted the war to degrade Russia's capabilities.
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And one of the U.S. generals said that directly.
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You know, the war is good because it degrades Russia.
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but what I did not anticipate is that there would be legitimate countries
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with seemingly legitimate countries that wanted war
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And this sounds like it's pretty well documented.
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Now, here's what I tweeted to be provocative, but useful.
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In my opinion, that's a war that Trump would have avoided.
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Trump would have avoided that war because he didn't want a war.
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do you think that any of them would have allowed that war to happen?
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Now, I'm going to make it even more provocative.
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Almost any Democratic president could have stopped that war.
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Almost anybody that you could imagine who was running for president
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could have stopped the war simply by not wanting it.
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and then agree to the deal that Zelensky and Putin
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Now, are you ready for the next level of provocation?
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I told you any Republican could have avoided the war.
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And I told you just about any Democrat probably would have avoided that war.
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That during that time, we did not have a president.
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Because any functioning president of the United States
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Any president, any president of the United States
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he didn't have the faculties to be a real president.
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We acted exactly like we didn't have a president.
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I'm looking at your comments to see if there's any pushback.
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We acted exactly like we didn't have a president.
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And that's not what happens when you have an actual president.
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Unless the president is so deeply in their pockets, of course.
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So, if I were Trump, and I wanted to make that point,
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Well, if you'd like a president, after four years of not having one, I'm offering that to you.
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So Trump did an interview on Fox News with Brett Baier.
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And everybody who hates Fox News is hopping mad.
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And Brett Hume made things worse by mocking Trump's performance in the interview.
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And what Brett said was Trump's defense of why he took the classified documents
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was sort of basically seemed to verge on incoherent.
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And he said it was not altogether clear what he was saying.
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When you hear something like, oh, a president is saying something incoherent,
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my mind goes to God save the Queen and everything that Biden does,
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So I thought, I'm going to have to hear that myself.
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If Trump suddenly started acting incoherent, that would be big news to me.
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I mean, that would certainly change a lot about my opinion if he started acting incoherent.
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You know, I have a lot of respect for Brett Hume.
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If he says he watched it and it looked incoherent, that sounds credible to me.
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And to me, it seemed maybe not passing the fact-checking, but that's normal.
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I just didn't have time to look through all the boxes and sort it out.
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I'm saying it was perfectly easy to understand.
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Yeah, he didn't have time to go through the boxes.
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And that it was all declassified by the act of taking him with him.
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It's exactly what he's been saying, and we all understand it.
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I'm just saying it's an easy-to-understand story.
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So I'm a little puzzled by the pushback on how bad he was.
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The only thing I saw that was clearly a mistake was his haircut.
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I mean, he needs to fire whoever let him go on camera with the way his hair was combed.
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Oh, I guess the one thing that Briz said he did that was a mistake.
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I didn't see the clip on that, but it sounds like a mistake.
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That when asked how he would win back women, I guess, suburban women or something,
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he complained that he didn't really lose the 2020 election.
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I think he's going to need more future-looking stuff to get it done.
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But according to some polls, Trump is trailing Biden in the general election.
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And I asked myself, how in the world is that possible?
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How in the world could Biden be beating Trump in a poll right now?
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Like, you know, obviously we're all watching our own little biased news sources.
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So if that's not the news source you're watching.
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But it seems to me that if you were to look at the things that Biden did from, you know,
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blowing the removal of forces from Afghanistan, nobody thinks he did that right.
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If you look at the severity of the lockdowns and the rights that he took away from people,
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nobody thinks he got that right, I don't think.
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And if you look at the Ukraine war, I think people would reasonably think that Biden was the problem there
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and that the war itself wouldn't have even happened without him being degraded, which is what I believe.
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Yeah, inflation, you'd be directly involved in that.
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I think what it does is it shows you the power of the press, that people have been propagandized to the point and brainwashed,
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that they think he did a good job because there was a, what did he get past, an infrastructure bill?
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Has anybody, anybody gotten any benefits from the infrastructure bill yet?
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Is anybody aware of any, even one thing that's been built because of the infrastructure bill?
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Do you know of anything that got built because of the infrastructure bill?
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Now, presumably there will be lots of things that get built.
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It's just that, you know, budgets will be bigger than they were and it's sort of invisible.
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On YouTube, there's somebody who just joined to missed the sip.
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We're going to give you a special interstitial sip.
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So, the Oscars have introduced three new eligibility rules.
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You will not get an Oscar unless you satisfy these new rules.
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Number one, the lead or key supporting character must be from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
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Two, main storyline needs to focus on an underrepresented group, underrepresented group.
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And then, or, so this one's an or, so you can do that, or, at least 30% of the cast must come from underrepresented groups.
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For years, I've been using the Oscars as a guide to what movies to watch.
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If a movie won an Oscar, I'd say, oh, I'm not going to watch that.
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If it won an Oscar, you're going to say, I'm not going near that fucking thing.
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If you win an Oscar, it just means that you were woke.
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For years, it just meant you were super woke, and you made a movie about somebody who had a physical disability,
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So I'm not sure that these rules of formalizing it make much difference to an irrelevant thing.
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But I have been using it as a reliable guide to what not to watch, and I think it's served me well.
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So the Oscars as a guide to what not to watch, keep on going.
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The big story on the Internet is this Joe Rogan wants Dr. Hotez, who's a pro-vaccination kind of an expert,
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I saw a clip where somebody asked him about it, and he said he had received the offer.
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So all he was saying is he had received the offer, which suggested he was at least considering it.
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And then there was a whole bunch of talk on the Internet that the worst way to find the truth
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would be to have one expert scientist talk to somebody who was not an expert scientist.
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And so all the smart people, have you heard of them?
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Yeah, all of the smart people who watch CNN and MSNBC, they weighed in and said,
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How much are you going to learn by having a famous expert talk to somebody who has no training in the field?
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Oh, the low educated are so entertaining with their little ideas about Joe Rogan.
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It was like this immense level, it was like this layer of arrogance, you know,
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descended from the clouds and just covered us for a little bit.
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I was like, am I covered by arrogance right now?
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That there's nobody who can talk to a scientist?
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Let me tell you what you smart, educated people,
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I'm not sure if that applies to anybody here or not,
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but let me tell you what you're missing in this.
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I would rather have a qualified scientist talk to somebody who's good at identifying bullshit
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than I would have two qualified scientists debate,
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and then when they're done, I don't know who did the better job.
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And then you're going to say, well, what's a good one?
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I don't think that the two experts are going to give you exactly what you hoped for.
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If I could get that, I would very much like to see the two experts.
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But if you give me one expert and one person who's really, really good
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and has a track record of spotting bullshit, that's the one I want first.
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First, give me the bullshit versus the scientist.
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And if the bullshit guy wins, the scientist needs to go back and examine his life or her life, right?
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And if the scientist is afraid of the bullshit spotter, which is what RFK Jr. is, he's a bullshit spotter,
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But I don't even have a good opinion on all of his vaccination claims and whether he's mostly right or mostly not right.
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That's why I'd like to see him debate an actual expert, so that maybe I could learn for the first time,
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is RFK Jr. full of shit, or is he the most valuable resource in the country right now?
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I'm not even leaning in one direction at this point.
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Now, part of the pushback here is that scientists are not persuasive.
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Whereas you put them on next to some professional politician or a talking head pundit type,
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and that's going to be a persuasive person who communicates really well.
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So the scientists are like, oh, it'll only make things worse,
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because the persuasive person will look like they won the argument even when they didn't,
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because I had all the science, they had all the bullshit,
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but their bullshit was so good, it looked better than my science.
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So they're afraid to get in the ring with somebody who might be good at bullshit.
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To which I say, science without persuasion is useless.
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I don't care how much science you have in your head.
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You've got to get other people involved, right, to build stuff.
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It doesn't matter how much you know privately in your own little private head.
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But if writing a paper doesn't get it done, as in the public's opinion about vaccinations,
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the scientific papers aren't going to convince the public,
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and it's the public you need to act differently.
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and you don't get somebody who has the skills and the ability to communicate,
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So I offered today to Dr. Hotez, just on a tweet,
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Because he needs to know how to handle the laundry list persuasion,
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and also the potential that he's worried about.
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I can tell him how to solve both problems in advance.
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If you debunked one, the worry is he just moves to the next one.
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And you're like, okay, all right, here's another half hour.
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And the audience is going to say, well, he had a lot of claims,
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So I can see why he wouldn't want to walk into that trap.
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So I've suggested on Twitter and elsewhere that he don't do the debate
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Three just because it's more than one, but it's not too many.
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A claim might be this set of shots were not sufficiently tested.
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And that would be very useful for me to hear debated.
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Because I think the expert would say something,
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well, we didn't do the usual kind, but the kind we did is good enough.
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Maybe another one would be that more people died from the vaccination than the COVID.
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I mean, you would look at the data, and they would probably have competing data.
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So don't assume that RFK Jr. believes any of this stuff.
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So if you take it down to three claims, and then you say to Joe Rogan,
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Joe Rogan, it's your job to not let him move the goalpost.
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The moment he starts to stray from those three claims,
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I need you, Joe Rogan, to say stop, come back to the claim.
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That Joe Rogan guarantees and says it publicly,
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I will keep you on topic, so no goalpost moving.
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and maybe Dr. Hotez would want me to help him with persuasion,
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to just, you know, give some tips how to handle this scenario.
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I think would go a long way to answering his concerns.
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Because, by the way, his concerns are completely valid.
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Are you willing to agree with me that Dr. Hotez,
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you know, the other person's argument and stuff.