Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2150 Scott Adams： Prigozhin Goes To Belarus (Maybe), Was It a Psyop？, RFK Jr. On Nuclear

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00:00:54.360 All right. So, here's big news in the AI world.

00:01:02.340 Mid-Journey 5.2, the newest release.

00:01:06.520 It can draw hands.

00:01:09.760 I've never understood why AI can't draw hands,

00:01:13.640 but I just saw demonstrations this morning of many different hands,

00:01:18.020 and they were amazing.

00:01:19.900 They were sort of perfect.

00:01:21.860 So, for a while I thought,

00:01:23.980 you know, this AI is never going to be able to do what I do

00:01:27.840 as a human artist,

00:01:31.000 but, well, there you go.

00:01:34.020 Now, I did see an argument today on social media.

00:01:38.000 Somebody said that if you use AI to write your marketing copy,

00:01:43.460 it will never be good

00:01:44.720 because marketing copy is about surprising people,

00:01:49.300 and AI doesn't know how to do that.

00:01:51.100 AI only knows how to do what's been done before,

00:01:53.740 so surprise is not part of its features.

00:01:57.640 Eh, maybe for now.

00:01:59.620 I can't imagine that'll last forever.

00:02:02.280 All right.

00:02:02.780 I was reading an article in Breitbart by Joel Pollack,

00:02:05.760 and he was talking about a California community poll results,

00:02:11.340 Strategies 360.

00:02:13.920 And what percentage of people do you think

00:02:16.060 are considering moving out of California?

00:02:18.580 If you had to guess,

00:02:21.540 40%.

00:02:22.620 40% of Californians are considering moving.

00:02:29.360 Let me put this in context.

00:02:32.580 40% of Californians are considering moving.

00:02:36.520 And, and at the same time,

00:02:40.080 the governor of California

00:02:41.480 is the Democrats' second best guy.

00:02:46.360 Both true.

00:02:47.920 40% of the people want to get the fuck out of his state,

00:02:51.460 and he's their second best guy for president.

00:02:55.200 Biden's number one, of course.

00:02:58.140 He's the second best guy.

00:03:01.440 Isn't that amazing?

00:03:03.480 My head almost can't hold those ideas at the same time.

00:03:07.800 Yeah.

00:03:08.840 Well, according to them,

00:03:10.280 according to Democrats,

00:03:11.540 he's the second best guy.

00:03:13.540 RFK Jr., we'll talk about him.

00:03:15.420 He might be the actual best guy.

00:03:18.340 We'll find out.

00:03:19.800 Um,

00:03:20.440 yeah,

00:03:23.180 but the reason people want to leave,

00:03:25.000 I guess a lot of them because of states' policies,

00:03:27.420 but a lot of them because it's expensive.

00:03:30.560 And,

00:03:31.080 if you're a Republican,

00:03:34.160 you're three times more likely to want to leave

00:03:36.300 because of the policies.

00:03:38.760 But,

00:03:40.480 I gotta tell you,

00:03:41.860 every time somebody leaves California,

00:03:44.500 I just think of them suffering.

00:03:49.780 Because,

00:03:50.340 you know,

00:03:50.520 I've lived in California my entire adult life,

00:03:53.420 but until I lived in California,

00:03:55.480 I lived in upstate New York.

00:03:58.120 Do you know how you feel when you walk outdoors

00:04:00.200 in upstate New York?

00:04:02.800 What's the word?

00:04:04.300 What's the word you feel when you walk outdoors?

00:04:07.560 Pain.

00:04:08.380 Pain.

00:04:09.080 Yeah.

00:04:09.560 Some call it cold,

00:04:11.520 but it's just pain.

00:04:14.300 And,

00:04:14.940 what happens if you walk outdoors in,

00:04:17.740 let's say,

00:04:18.200 Florida

00:04:18.700 in July?

00:04:20.860 Florida in July.

00:04:23.120 How's that feel?

00:04:24.720 Well,

00:04:25.000 what would you describe that feeling?

00:04:27.480 Pain.

00:04:28.400 It's pain.

00:04:30.280 You could call it humidity.

00:04:32.360 You could call it uncomfortable.

00:04:33.720 Heat.

00:04:34.660 But,

00:04:34.980 it's just pain.

00:04:36.560 It's just pain.

00:04:37.720 It hurts to walk to the car.

00:04:40.400 Do you know how often I'm in pain

00:04:42.400 in California

00:04:43.420 because I went outdoors?

00:04:46.120 Sometimes.

00:04:47.100 Like,

00:04:47.420 when the forest fires are there,

00:04:48.720 it's kind of unpleasant,

00:04:50.320 you know,

00:04:50.540 if the sky's all cloudy.

00:04:52.540 But,

00:04:53.020 mostly,

00:04:54.580 mostly you can walk outdoors

00:04:56.080 with your short-sleeved shirt

00:04:57.940 pretty much anytime you want

00:05:00.040 for a little,

00:05:00.560 at least a little while.

00:05:01.860 You might not want to stay there,

00:05:03.120 but,

00:05:04.000 it's really tough to beat that.

00:05:06.820 It's really tough.

00:05:07.940 Like,

00:05:08.300 for the last month,

00:05:09.880 I would say for a solid month,

00:05:12.740 every single day

00:05:13.900 has been sunny

00:05:15.640 and room temperature.

00:05:17.320 I think 80 is the highest it's been.

00:05:23.380 I've been leaving my doors

00:05:25.300 of my house open

00:05:26.320 just all day long

00:05:27.880 because the indoor

00:05:29.280 and the outdoor temperature

00:05:30.240 are the same.

00:05:32.080 Do you have that where you are?

00:05:34.380 I don't know.

00:05:34.820 That's my commercial for California.

00:05:36.520 It's the weather.

00:05:37.060 So,

00:05:40.720 RFK Jr.

00:05:41.440 has,

00:05:41.920 let's say,

00:05:42.940 added some nuance

00:05:43.740 to his opinion

00:05:45.240 about nuclear energy.

00:05:46.940 I had thought

00:05:48.080 he was a little bit

00:05:49.060 negative about it,

00:05:51.220 but he's,

00:05:52.460 he's giving a much

00:05:53.640 smarter take on it.

00:05:55.800 Smarter because

00:05:56.440 he's acting like

00:05:57.620 he's open to it

00:05:58.580 if it can be

00:05:59.500 economical

00:06:00.020 and safe.

00:06:01.060 So his current statement is

00:06:03.460 I'm all for nuclear energy

00:06:05.520 if it can be made safe

00:06:07.320 and if it can be made

00:06:08.860 economically competitive.

00:06:11.420 Which is brilliant.

00:06:13.540 That's really the very best framing

00:06:15.500 for a Democrat.

00:06:17.280 Because he's basically saying

00:06:18.980 I agree with everything you say.

00:06:21.900 Can you do it?

00:06:24.680 Which is kind of genius.

00:06:26.820 Everything you say about nuclear,

00:06:28.600 absolutely.

00:06:30.020 Can you do it?

00:06:32.060 Show me you can do it.

00:06:34.220 Show me you can build it

00:06:35.500 cheap enough.

00:06:36.900 Show me you can make it safe.

00:06:39.140 And I'm all for it.

00:06:40.840 It's an excellent framing.

00:06:42.960 Now,

00:06:43.220 part of his argument is

00:06:44.160 you can't get insurance,

00:06:46.080 which would be an indication

00:06:47.380 that it's not economical.

00:06:49.200 Because the insurance company

00:06:50.520 would surely want to

00:06:51.560 sell you insurance

00:06:52.440 if you had a,

00:06:55.360 you know,

00:06:55.640 business with a reasonable risk.

00:06:58.120 However,

00:06:58.960 I say to myself this.

00:07:00.360 I think there are some things

00:07:02.360 that should not be

00:07:03.600 insured by private industry.

00:07:06.140 and nuclear energy

00:07:08.100 would be the top of the list.

00:07:10.300 I don't think that a private company

00:07:12.520 really wants to take that chance.

00:07:16.140 See,

00:07:16.780 they have what's called

00:07:17.760 the reverse IBM problem.

00:07:19.920 the reverse IBM problem.

00:07:23.080 It goes like this.

00:07:25.200 And I've told you this story before.

00:07:26.620 In the 70s or so,

00:07:27.900 when I was negotiating contracts

00:07:29.680 for technology for a big bank,

00:07:32.320 IBM would offer their bid,

00:07:35.080 their bid,

00:07:36.000 and I'd look at the other bids

00:07:37.200 from other companies.

00:07:39.160 And if you,

00:07:40.360 if you picked IBM

00:07:42.840 and everything went wrong,

00:07:45.540 which was very rare,

00:07:46.600 because IBM made sure

00:07:47.720 everything didn't go wrong.

00:07:49.080 That's why people picked them.

00:07:50.520 But if you,

00:07:51.220 if you picked IBM,

00:07:53.780 nobody would say you were an idiot

00:07:55.340 if anything went wrong.

00:07:57.080 Because you still picked

00:07:58.240 the best company.

00:07:59.740 But if you pick something

00:08:00.880 that's not IBM,

00:08:02.080 this is in the 70s,

00:08:03.700 and it goes wrong,

00:08:05.640 everybody who's going to

00:08:06.780 second guess you

00:08:07.620 says,

00:08:08.680 uh,

00:08:09.380 really?

00:08:10.880 So you didn't buy IBM

00:08:12.380 and then things went wrong.

00:08:14.880 Well,

00:08:15.120 you're fired

00:08:15.620 because you should have

00:08:16.580 just bought IBM

00:08:17.320 because everybody knows

00:08:18.360 that's the one

00:08:18.860 where things don't go wrong.

00:08:20.320 Or if it does,

00:08:21.020 they fix it.

00:08:22.100 Which they actually did.

00:08:23.300 Their reputation was stellar.

00:08:27.080 So,

00:08:27.360 but it's the reverse problem

00:08:28.600 with nuclear.

00:08:30.100 Let's say you're

00:08:30.840 an insurance company

00:08:32.000 and you insure

00:08:33.620 a nuclear site

00:08:34.740 and a catastrophe happens.

00:08:37.200 There's no way

00:08:37.960 in the world

00:08:38.360 you can explain that

00:08:39.340 to the public

00:08:39.960 or your investors.

00:08:41.720 Your investors will say,

00:08:43.580 well,

00:08:43.840 everybody knew

00:08:44.560 it was dangerous.

00:08:45.340 What the hell

00:08:45.700 are you doing?

00:08:47.580 Even if it isn't.

00:08:49.680 Right?

00:08:50.020 First of all,

00:08:50.780 everybody would act

00:08:52.100 like they knew

00:08:52.700 exactly what the risks were.

00:08:54.380 Like,

00:08:54.720 as if they did.

00:08:56.480 So,

00:08:56.880 that's the perfect situation

00:08:59.220 for the government

00:08:59.960 to be the insurer

00:09:01.140 and could even

00:09:02.400 make a profit,

00:09:03.180 I would think.

00:09:04.700 Don't you think

00:09:05.220 the government

00:09:05.720 could insure

00:09:06.560 all nuclear facilities

00:09:08.120 and actually

00:09:09.600 make a profit on it?

00:09:10.720 As long as they were

00:09:11.520 at least

00:09:13.480 Generation 3,

00:09:15.700 which has never had

00:09:16.520 a death

00:09:17.920 associated with it.

00:09:21.660 And it gets built,

00:09:23.060 you know,

00:09:23.280 in a timely fashion

00:09:24.220 and whatever.

00:09:24.620 So,

00:09:26.700 it seems to me

00:09:27.400 these are all

00:09:27.900 really solvable problems.

00:09:30.260 But they're not solved.

00:09:32.540 I mean,

00:09:32.740 they're not exactly solved.

00:09:34.600 I think the safety thing

00:09:36.000 is pretty much

00:09:36.580 taken care of.

00:09:37.600 You know,

00:09:38.360 you know the one thing

00:09:38.880 he didn't mention?

00:09:42.040 What's missing?

00:09:43.800 I'm all for nuclear energy

00:09:45.180 if it can be made safe

00:09:46.380 and if it can be made

00:09:47.460 economically competitive.

00:09:49.600 There's something he,

00:09:50.840 yeah,

00:09:51.180 he usually mentioned

00:09:52.140 nuclear waste,

00:09:53.360 didn't he?

00:09:53.580 I feel like in the past

00:09:55.640 he's mentioned waste.

00:09:57.620 But people who have

00:09:59.400 been updated

00:10:00.120 to the most current

00:10:01.260 knowledge about nuclear

00:10:02.800 know that that's

00:10:04.240 largely been solved.

00:10:05.800 All they do is

00:10:06.460 store it on site

00:10:07.220 where it was created.

00:10:08.620 They just put it in barrels

00:10:09.660 and just leave it there.

00:10:11.980 It turns out

00:10:12.660 you can put it in a barrel

00:10:13.680 and just leave it

00:10:15.600 and everything's fine.

00:10:17.220 You don't have to

00:10:17.720 transport it.

00:10:18.860 You don't have to

00:10:19.420 put it in somebody

00:10:19.960 else's backyard

00:10:20.820 and wherever

00:10:22.160 your nuclear plant is,

00:10:24.160 the people around there

00:10:25.120 have sort of

00:10:25.660 gotten used to it.

00:10:27.260 So it's largely

00:10:28.540 a solved problem.

00:10:30.680 Anyway,

00:10:31.220 it's good to see him

00:10:32.040 evolving on that

00:10:33.240 or at least evolving

00:10:34.500 his rhetoric.

00:10:35.180 He did that well.

00:10:36.360 Did everybody see

00:10:37.060 the meme of him

00:10:38.060 of RFK Jr.

00:10:39.540 with his shirt off

00:10:40.540 at an outdoor gym?

00:10:42.200 How many of you

00:10:44.460 saw that?

00:10:45.200 It was just everywhere

00:10:46.060 on social media yesterday.

00:10:47.220 I think I saw it

00:10:47.880 a hundred times.

00:10:50.820 All right,

00:10:51.100 so the story there,

00:10:53.880 you have to see

00:10:54.660 the picture.

00:10:55.600 His chest and arms

00:10:57.120 are so ripped.

00:10:59.300 I mean,

00:10:59.740 he looks like

00:11:00.220 the Incredible Hulk,

00:11:01.860 smaller size.

00:11:03.400 I think he's like

00:11:04.280 6'2", though,

00:11:05.000 so he's a big guy.

00:11:08.000 So his 70th birthday

00:11:10.940 is coming up.

00:11:12.200 I don't know when,

00:11:13.160 but, you know,

00:11:13.860 he's 69.

00:11:15.100 He's almost 70

00:11:16.320 and he's absolutely ripped.

00:11:19.280 His body looks like

00:11:20.480 a 25-year-old

00:11:21.500 who's been at the gym

00:11:22.680 every day.

00:11:28.200 So,

00:11:29.100 and what's funny is,

00:11:31.120 what's funny is

00:11:32.240 you'd think that

00:11:32.860 that would have

00:11:33.320 no impact

00:11:34.060 on anybody's

00:11:34.740 voting preferences,

00:11:36.160 but it totally does.

00:11:38.760 The people

00:11:39.420 on the political right

00:11:40.600 were saying,

00:11:41.260 well, there's a man.

00:11:43.200 There's a guy

00:11:43.840 who understands

00:11:44.640 that men should

00:11:45.980 be in shape.

00:11:47.140 They should be able

00:11:47.680 to handle themselves.

00:11:48.620 They should take care.

00:11:49.920 So a lot of the Republicans

00:11:51.000 were saying,

00:11:51.740 oh, shit,

00:11:52.200 we've got a role model.

00:11:53.880 Finally have a role model

00:11:55.240 who appreciates

00:11:57.200 good health.

00:11:58.420 Which, by the way,

00:11:59.260 is something I've said

00:12:00.040 about Biden,

00:12:00.820 because it's always good

00:12:01.740 to say something good

00:12:03.760 about somebody

00:12:05.280 that you maybe disagree

00:12:06.440 with on other stuff.

00:12:07.740 It makes you sound credible.

00:12:08.740 And I've always said

00:12:09.860 that Biden's a good

00:12:10.660 role model for fitness.

00:12:12.620 Always kept his weight

00:12:13.680 good.

00:12:14.600 I think he's a lifelong

00:12:15.740 exerciser.

00:12:17.020 I've always appreciated

00:12:18.200 that about him.

00:12:19.840 And Trump

00:12:20.720 is maybe

00:12:21.700 the worst case scenario

00:12:22.980 for personal health.

00:12:25.860 So,

00:12:26.220 another good one

00:12:27.440 is

00:12:27.760 Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:12:30.220 I mean,

00:12:30.380 he's young,

00:12:30.900 so he's got that

00:12:31.460 going for him.

00:12:32.200 But Vivek's a,

00:12:33.420 he's a gym guy,

00:12:34.740 tennis player.

00:12:35.300 He's in great shape.

00:12:37.140 I love the fact

00:12:38.180 that at least

00:12:38.600 some of the candidates

00:12:39.320 are in great shape.

00:12:42.020 And that helps.

00:12:47.940 There is a Harvard

00:12:50.600 professor who is an expert

00:12:53.320 on honesty research.

00:12:56.320 So,

00:12:56.600 worked for Harvard,

00:12:57.980 expert on the subject

00:12:59.340 of honesty.

00:13:01.420 Has been let go

00:13:02.580 because she may

00:13:04.780 have fabricated

00:13:05.600 research data

00:13:06.420 in as many

00:13:07.160 as 135 studies,

00:13:09.620 including the one

00:13:10.520 on honesty.

00:13:13.420 Okay.

00:13:14.940 Now,

00:13:15.540 I saw a comment

00:13:16.360 from,

00:13:17.360 on Twitter,

00:13:19.060 where somebody

00:13:19.900 had referred to

00:13:20.640 her as a,

00:13:21.260 as a Democrat,

00:13:23.100 and somebody

00:13:24.000 pushed back

00:13:24.640 and said,

00:13:25.160 whoa,

00:13:26.000 there's no,

00:13:27.280 that's not in the story.

00:13:28.900 The story doesn't say

00:13:29.760 she's a Democrat.

00:13:30.680 No,

00:13:32.840 no.

00:13:33.400 The story doesn't say

00:13:34.400 she's a Democrat.

00:13:35.560 It does say

00:13:36.140 she's a woman

00:13:36.860 who works at Harvard

00:13:37.900 who lied on

00:13:38.840 135 studies,

00:13:40.280 potentially.

00:13:42.000 I don't know

00:13:42.660 what the odds

00:13:43.220 of being a Democrat

00:13:43.960 are in that situation,

00:13:46.560 but it's not

00:13:48.420 a coin flip,

00:13:49.460 if you know

00:13:49.900 what I mean.

00:13:52.480 All right.

00:13:53.200 Well,

00:13:53.600 that was funny.

00:13:54.320 That's a little story,

00:13:55.160 but it's funny.

00:13:58.100 Do you ever have,

00:13:58.960 do you ever have

00:13:59.420 this situation

00:14:00.020 where there's,

00:14:00.860 there's a topic

00:14:01.740 that you've been

00:14:02.540 arguing about

00:14:03.840 for,

00:14:04.340 you know,

00:14:04.860 days or weeks,

00:14:05.720 and then somebody

00:14:06.960 comes in with a comment

00:14:08.200 that you didn't think of,

00:14:10.760 and it just ruins

00:14:11.540 your whole two weeks,

00:14:12.720 because everything

00:14:13.620 you should have said

00:14:14.580 should have just been that.

00:14:18.380 Right?

00:14:19.140 So now,

00:14:19.960 I would like you

00:14:20.680 to erase

00:14:21.640 from your memory

00:14:22.500 everything I've ever said

00:14:24.520 on the topic

00:14:25.260 of whether

00:14:26.520 RFK Jr.

00:14:27.780 should have a debate

00:14:29.060 with Dr. Hotez

00:14:30.900 over vaccinations.

00:14:33.300 Forget everything

00:14:34.400 I've said about it,

00:14:35.760 and I would like you

00:14:36.480 to replace it

00:14:37.320 with this far superior

00:14:39.160 opinion

00:14:39.700 that I saw

00:14:40.840 on Twitter.

00:14:41.220 This is a

00:14:42.720 Jeff Pilkington

00:14:43.920 tweet,

00:14:45.960 who has some

00:14:46.560 really good,

00:14:47.240 really good tweets,

00:14:49.200 because he's good

00:14:49.820 at seeing both sides

00:14:50.700 of the political

00:14:51.460 situation.

00:14:53.140 All right,

00:14:53.520 now think,

00:14:54.100 just imagine how stupid

00:14:55.280 I felt when I read this.

00:14:57.740 So Jeff says,

00:14:59.280 regarding vaccines

00:15:00.540 at a debate,

00:15:01.700 the reason the left

00:15:02.880 generally doesn't

00:15:03.780 want to debate

00:15:04.440 on this topic

00:15:05.180 is simply because

00:15:06.540 there's no issue

00:15:07.360 with vaccines

00:15:08.080 on the left.

00:15:08.800 How do you

00:15:09.980 debate something

00:15:10.660 you don't have

00:15:11.240 an issue with?

00:15:14.260 Oh.

00:15:17.140 What is wrong

00:15:18.300 with my brain?

00:15:20.540 What is wrong

00:15:21.420 with my brain?

00:15:23.040 How did I not

00:15:23.940 see the obvious?

00:15:26.080 Are you kidding me?

00:15:27.840 Of course they

00:15:28.600 don't want to debate.

00:15:29.520 It would be stupid.

00:15:31.020 They got everything

00:15:31.760 they want.

00:15:33.300 The team that

00:15:34.560 already has

00:15:35.360 everything they want

00:15:36.500 and it's not

00:15:37.340 going to be

00:15:37.680 taken away,

00:15:39.100 why in the world

00:15:40.060 would they debate?

00:15:41.700 It doesn't make

00:15:42.320 any sense at all.

00:15:43.740 And here,

00:15:44.560 people like me

00:15:45.340 were like,

00:15:46.220 well,

00:15:46.440 debate is just obvious.

00:15:47.600 Of course you do.

00:15:48.960 Why wouldn't you?

00:15:49.780 It's good for the public.

00:15:51.360 Everybody likes

00:15:52.000 a good debate.

00:15:53.100 Everybody likes

00:15:53.660 better knowledge.

00:15:55.020 Everybody wants

00:15:55.560 to get the right answer.

00:15:56.880 So of course

00:15:57.380 debate is good.

00:15:58.240 No.

00:16:02.440 The team that has

00:16:03.720 everything they want

00:16:05.080 and it's not

00:16:06.200 going to be

00:16:06.560 taken away,

00:16:08.400 they're not

00:16:09.080 going to debate you.

00:16:10.320 Not ever.

00:16:12.820 So I kept thinking

00:16:14.540 in my mind,

00:16:15.820 my stupid,

00:16:16.660 stupid,

00:16:17.280 stupid mind,

00:16:18.740 I kept thinking

00:16:19.440 that we were

00:16:19.860 this close

00:16:20.400 to having a debate.

00:16:21.880 Like,

00:16:22.220 ah,

00:16:22.900 any minute,

00:16:23.560 if we just put

00:16:24.260 a little more

00:16:24.680 pressure on,

00:16:25.760 that debate's

00:16:26.480 going to happen

00:16:26.880 any minute now.

00:16:28.240 No.

00:16:29.340 No.

00:16:29.820 There's no chance

00:16:30.480 of a debate.

00:16:31.600 There's no chance.

00:16:33.200 It can only be

00:16:34.100 bad for them.

00:16:35.320 They have no upside

00:16:36.540 because they've

00:16:37.300 already won everything.

00:16:38.780 They can only lose.

00:16:40.620 Why would you do that?

00:16:43.540 Now,

00:16:44.020 how many of you

00:16:44.800 are having

00:16:45.080 the same feeling

00:16:45.860 right now?

00:16:47.180 That you're feeling

00:16:47.780 stupid,

00:16:48.340 that you thought

00:16:48.760 there would ever

00:16:49.220 be a debate?

00:16:50.860 Don't you feel stupid?

00:16:53.060 As soon as you hear

00:16:54.100 this better point,

00:16:55.720 all of the other

00:16:56.800 points you've made

00:16:57.500 about it

00:16:57.800 just feel stupid?

00:16:59.680 I love this.

00:17:00.840 I love

00:17:01.920 the total

00:17:03.520 mindfuck

00:17:04.240 of finding

00:17:04.760 how wrong

00:17:05.300 you've been.

00:17:07.320 It's kind of

00:17:08.020 an interesting

00:17:08.500 experience

00:17:10.440 just to be

00:17:11.880 that wrong

00:17:12.600 for that long.

00:17:14.660 Anyway,

00:17:15.340 well,

00:17:15.860 thanks for joining

00:17:16.460 me and being wrong,

00:17:17.460 at least for some

00:17:18.320 of you.

00:17:20.140 Well,

00:17:20.620 because of this

00:17:21.180 Russian coup

00:17:21.960 that we'll talk

00:17:22.580 about,

00:17:22.780 of course,

00:17:23.780 if it was a coup

00:17:25.680 and not a

00:17:27.040 psyop,

00:17:28.380 you know,

00:17:29.040 you know,

00:17:29.660 could have been

00:17:30.040 a psyop.

00:17:31.140 We'll talk about that.

00:17:32.940 But I'm still

00:17:34.420 seeing today,

00:17:35.380 as I've seen

00:17:36.160 just about every day

00:17:37.140 for a long time,

00:17:38.680 somebody claiming

00:17:39.540 that the J6,

00:17:41.220 January 6th situation

00:17:42.340 was a coup.

00:17:43.140 Now,

00:17:45.860 prior to this

00:17:47.120 Wagner situation

00:17:48.400 in Russia,

00:17:50.420 it sounded stupid

00:17:51.500 to say that

00:17:52.900 people occupying

00:17:54.100 a building

00:17:54.560 and not taking

00:17:56.040 any weapons

00:17:56.640 out of their pockets,

00:17:57.540 at least guns,

00:17:58.800 that they thought

00:17:59.760 it was a coup,

00:18:01.120 that that little

00:18:01.940 group of people

00:18:02.560 thought they could

00:18:03.320 conquer the whole

00:18:04.080 country by walking

00:18:06.260 around in a building

00:18:07.460 for a while.

00:18:08.980 And I thought,

00:18:10.720 well,

00:18:10.920 that's pretty absurd.

00:18:11.840 And so when people

00:18:13.780 would argue it,

00:18:14.620 I would, of course,

00:18:15.480 point out that it was stupid.

00:18:17.260 And then they would

00:18:18.060 always say,

00:18:18.640 but, but, but,

00:18:19.920 there were guns nearby.

00:18:21.860 There were guns nearby.

00:18:23.920 That doesn't really

00:18:24.760 help your point.

00:18:26.240 That's not helping

00:18:27.060 your point.

00:18:28.040 And then there,

00:18:28.800 but, but, but,

00:18:29.720 there were some people

00:18:30.600 there who did want

00:18:31.400 to overthrow the government.

00:18:33.540 Yes.

00:18:34.980 Probably in every crowd.

00:18:37.560 Do you know where else

00:18:38.680 there are some people

00:18:39.620 in the crowd who want

00:18:40.320 to overthrow the government?

00:18:41.300 Right away.

00:18:43.520 New Year's Eve.

00:18:45.320 New Year's Eve

00:18:46.140 when the ball's coming down.

00:18:48.080 Big crowd.

00:18:49.360 There's some murderers

00:18:50.600 in there.

00:18:51.100 There's some pedophiles.

00:18:52.780 And there's some

00:18:53.500 insurrectionists.

00:18:54.840 Guarantee it.

00:18:55.560 Because it's a big crowd.

00:18:57.060 You can be sure

00:18:57.920 that all those people

00:18:59.000 are there.

00:18:59.320 But we don't really say,

00:19:01.180 well, there's that,

00:19:02.460 there's that New Year's Eve

00:19:04.420 crowd in Times Square.

00:19:06.480 That's a bunch

00:19:07.360 of murdering pedophiles.

00:19:08.600 Well, why don't we say that?

00:19:11.640 I'm sure there were

00:19:12.420 murderers in the group.

00:19:14.220 I'm sure there were people

00:19:15.200 who had done

00:19:15.580 every kind of sex crime.

00:19:17.280 So why don't we say

00:19:18.020 it's a whole bunch

00:19:18.540 of sex crime people

00:19:19.620 appearing and,

00:19:22.200 well,

00:19:22.720 because it would be stupid.

00:19:24.320 You don't judge

00:19:25.220 the whole

00:19:25.820 by some few people.

00:19:30.640 We're going to get rid

00:19:31.460 of the copesters.

00:19:34.120 Copester.

00:19:34.520 I'm still getting

00:19:38.080 some people

00:19:38.560 who are defending

00:19:39.540 January 6th

00:19:40.440 as an actual coup.

00:19:43.480 Now, so here's my point.

00:19:45.560 So I've held

00:19:46.360 for a long time

00:19:47.840 that people were wrong

00:19:50.080 about their characterization

00:19:51.180 of January 6th.

00:19:52.880 But after watching

00:19:53.880 the actual,

00:19:55.540 you know,

00:19:55.780 what an actual,

00:19:57.060 at least the beginning

00:19:58.080 of a coup

00:19:58.620 would look like

00:19:59.360 with tanks

00:20:00.560 and shooting down

00:20:01.360 helicopters and shit,

00:20:02.500 now when somebody

00:20:04.580 says that they think

00:20:05.640 January 6th

00:20:06.460 was a coup,

00:20:08.980 I feel bad for them.

00:20:12.600 Like,

00:20:13.260 no joke,

00:20:14.900 I just feel,

00:20:15.980 oh,

00:20:16.720 I'm sorry.

00:20:19.060 I'm sorry

00:20:19.800 that happened to you.

00:20:21.140 Because these are

00:20:21.980 really victims.

00:20:23.300 And I mean that

00:20:24.000 not in a political sense,

00:20:25.440 I mean that

00:20:25.820 in a medical sense.

00:20:27.720 Medically speaking,

00:20:28.820 these are victims.

00:20:30.320 Because they've been

00:20:30.960 sold something

00:20:31.620 that's not real

00:20:32.480 and now it's become

00:20:33.500 part of their psyche.

00:20:34.820 That's a mental problem.

00:20:36.860 So they've actually

00:20:37.760 been assigned

00:20:38.800 a mental problem

00:20:40.360 by the Democrat press

00:20:42.440 and propaganda machine.

00:20:44.640 They've actually

00:20:45.180 been assigned

00:20:45.920 a medical problem

00:20:46.940 and they accepted it.

00:20:49.140 All right.

00:20:49.940 Medical problem,

00:20:50.960 mental problem,

00:20:51.700 I accept.

00:20:53.480 If you say,

00:20:54.420 if you say so.

00:20:56.400 All right.

00:20:57.060 Well,

00:20:59.220 let's talk about

00:20:59.980 this whole

00:21:00.560 Wagner situation

00:21:02.980 and Prigozhin

00:21:03.900 and marching

00:21:05.200 on Moscow

00:21:05.920 and turning back

00:21:08.340 and all that stuff.

00:21:09.420 You probably know

00:21:10.080 all the details.

00:21:10.860 I don't need to go

00:21:11.580 over the details.

00:21:12.600 I'm sure you follow

00:21:13.200 the news enough

00:21:13.840 to know

00:21:14.260 that Putin

00:21:16.180 made a deal

00:21:16.760 with Prigozhin

00:21:18.460 to go to Belarus

00:21:19.660 and then

00:21:21.380 Wagner will be,

00:21:23.240 you know,

00:21:23.520 most of it

00:21:24.220 absorbed into

00:21:25.120 the regular military.

00:21:27.460 And then apparently,

00:21:28.580 I'm not sure

00:21:29.320 this part is true.

00:21:31.160 Not sure this part

00:21:32.260 is true.

00:21:33.200 But allegedly,

00:21:34.720 allegedly Putin

00:21:38.880 is going to fire

00:21:39.740 the two generals

00:21:40.660 that Prigozhin

00:21:41.980 wanted fired.

00:21:43.560 Do we have

00:21:44.120 a confirmation

00:21:44.640 on that?

00:21:46.140 Because I'm not

00:21:46.940 so sure about that.

00:21:48.620 I mean,

00:21:48.880 I read it in the news,

00:21:50.480 but I'm not convinced.

00:21:52.640 Maybe.

00:21:53.300 Maybe yes,

00:21:53.880 maybe no.

00:21:54.300 I don't think

00:21:55.300 it's important.

00:21:56.240 All right.

00:21:56.820 So let me give you

00:21:58.100 my best takes,

00:21:59.260 worst takes take.

00:22:01.460 I'm going to tell you

00:22:02.300 which takes I think

00:22:03.280 are the most

00:22:03.960 insanely ridiculous.

00:22:06.960 Some of these

00:22:07.780 will be your takes.

00:22:09.720 Don't get too bad at me.

00:22:11.360 We're still

00:22:11.860 in the fog of war.

00:22:13.300 All right.

00:22:13.820 So if you've got

00:22:14.740 a bad take today

00:22:16.040 about that,

00:22:17.600 join the crowd.

00:22:19.020 I'm pretty sure

00:22:20.040 all of our takes

00:22:20.840 are bad.

00:22:22.380 Can we agree on that?

00:22:23.380 Can we agree

00:22:24.520 that whatever

00:22:25.160 happened there,

00:22:26.060 we'll never know?

00:22:27.640 We'll never know

00:22:28.560 what happened.

00:22:29.660 We will never

00:22:30.660 ever know

00:22:31.520 what actually

00:22:32.820 happened.

00:22:33.600 There's no way.

00:22:34.680 There's not the

00:22:35.180 slightest chance

00:22:35.860 we'll ever know.

00:22:37.600 So would you agree

00:22:38.740 that all of my

00:22:39.760 takes should be

00:22:40.960 bad under those

00:22:42.260 conditions?

00:22:44.060 Can you agree

00:22:44.660 that all my takes

00:22:45.420 are bad so you

00:22:46.240 don't have to

00:22:46.960 rumble about it

00:22:47.940 while I'm talking?

00:22:48.840 Okay.

00:22:49.220 All of my takes

00:22:49.820 are bad.

00:22:50.600 But here are the

00:22:51.060 other takes

00:22:51.520 that I think

00:22:51.940 are bad

00:22:52.340 because I think

00:22:52.900 all of our

00:22:53.360 takes are bad.

00:22:54.420 Like we're all

00:22:55.080 in the same boat.

00:22:55.980 Just a bunch

00:22:56.460 of bad takes.

00:22:57.960 All right.

00:22:58.760 Number one.

00:23:03.400 How many of you

00:23:04.360 believe that

00:23:06.480 that that's the

00:23:08.140 actual thing

00:23:09.020 that's going to

00:23:09.560 happen?

00:23:10.920 That Progosian

00:23:12.000 is actually just

00:23:12.920 going to go to

00:23:13.760 Belarus and

00:23:15.480 live his life

00:23:16.600 similar to the

00:23:18.160 family dog who

00:23:19.060 went to the

00:23:19.580 farm to live

00:23:21.780 out of his life

00:23:22.240 didn't die.

00:23:22.920 No, the dog

00:23:23.360 didn't die.

00:23:24.180 It went to the

00:23:24.680 farm in the

00:23:25.140 country.

00:23:25.540 It's living there

00:23:26.060 happily now.

00:23:28.500 All right.

00:23:29.260 How many of you

00:23:30.120 think he's going

00:23:30.780 to be allowed to

00:23:31.400 take his military

00:23:32.500 including their

00:23:34.220 heavy equipment

00:23:34.860 with them to

00:23:35.520 Belarus?

00:23:37.540 Do you think

00:23:38.080 that's going to

00:23:39.320 happen?

00:23:41.020 So here's bad

00:23:43.140 take number one

00:23:44.040 is that what

00:23:46.060 happened was that

00:23:47.140 Putin gave

00:23:48.200 Progosian

00:23:49.100 Belarus because

00:23:51.640 Belarus is

00:23:53.240 weak and

00:23:55.060 Wagner is

00:23:56.060 strong and

00:23:56.820 he'll just

00:23:57.140 bring his

00:23:57.560 military there

00:23:58.380 and basically

00:23:59.000 he'll just

00:23:59.440 take over

00:23:59.920 Belarus and

00:24:01.780 then maybe

00:24:03.020 Putin will have

00:24:03.680 a strong

00:24:04.220 partner in

00:24:04.880 Belarus because

00:24:05.660 really Putin

00:24:06.940 and Progosian

00:24:07.660 have always been

00:24:08.300 friends and

00:24:09.520 there was nothing

00:24:10.460 like a real

00:24:11.020 coup that

00:24:11.480 happened.

00:24:12.760 It was just

00:24:13.160 maybe an op

00:24:14.360 of some kind.

00:24:17.080 How many of

00:24:17.780 you believe

00:24:18.360 that Wagner

00:24:19.480 will be allowed

00:24:20.200 to take his

00:24:20.780 military to

00:24:21.900 Belarus?

00:24:25.380 You know

00:24:26.040 that's crazy,

00:24:26.820 right?

00:24:28.760 It's crazy.

00:24:30.900 There isn't

00:24:31.600 the slightest

00:24:32.240 chance, not

00:24:33.580 even the smallest

00:24:34.540 chance, that he

00:24:36.060 will take his

00:24:36.760 full military

00:24:37.600 there.

00:24:37.920 He might need

00:24:39.180 some number of

00:24:39.860 people who are

00:24:40.520 his personal

00:24:41.260 protection.

00:24:42.500 That might

00:24:42.940 happen.

00:24:44.240 Maybe there's

00:24:44.900 some scale

00:24:45.580 down, something

00:24:46.480 or other, but

00:24:47.200 he's not going

00:24:47.720 to be bringing

00:24:48.220 with him the

00:24:49.480 kind of fire

00:24:50.160 power that

00:24:50.720 would take

00:24:51.100 over Belarus.

00:24:53.660 How many

00:24:54.260 disagree?

00:24:55.760 Is there

00:24:56.040 anybody who

00:24:56.480 thinks he's

00:24:56.980 going to take

00:24:57.420 over Belarus

00:24:58.040 or that he's

00:24:59.100 the de facto

00:25:00.040 ruler of

00:25:00.740 Belarus now?

00:25:03.080 There's not

00:25:03.660 even a chance

00:25:04.200 of that, not

00:25:04.680 even the

00:25:04.980 slightest chance

00:25:05.640 of that.

00:25:06.880 Yeah.

00:25:07.820 So, all

00:25:08.440 right, good.

00:25:09.000 So most of

00:25:09.520 you don't

00:25:09.780 believe that.

00:25:11.560 How many of

00:25:12.380 you believe

00:25:12.940 that the

00:25:13.600 missing $6.2

00:25:15.060 billion is

00:25:16.160 part of this

00:25:16.940 story, that

00:25:19.460 that goes a

00:25:20.400 long way to

00:25:20.920 explaining who's

00:25:21.840 doing what over

00:25:22.500 there?

00:25:23.280 How many think

00:25:23.880 that's part of

00:25:24.420 this story?

00:25:27.520 I see some

00:25:28.320 mixed bags, some

00:25:29.180 yeses and nos.

00:25:30.980 I'm going to

00:25:31.880 say I wouldn't

00:25:33.240 rule it out

00:25:34.100 because I don't

00:25:35.380 know one way

00:25:36.000 or the other.

00:25:37.840 But here's the

00:25:39.220 smarter take on

00:25:40.120 that.

00:25:40.380 money is

00:25:42.220 fungible.

00:25:43.520 Did you know

00:25:44.020 that?

00:25:45.820 Like if you

00:25:46.560 gave me a

00:25:46.980 dollar, I

00:25:48.400 could spend

00:25:49.060 it on a

00:25:49.480 piece of

00:25:49.800 candy or I

00:25:50.700 could buy

00:25:50.980 some gas

00:25:51.520 with it.

00:25:52.920 Right?

00:25:53.840 The $6.2

00:25:54.820 billion is a

00:25:57.020 concept.

00:25:58.800 It's not an

00:25:59.580 important one.

00:26:00.760 If the U.S.

00:26:01.860 wanted to

00:26:02.320 bribe somebody,

00:26:03.440 they don't

00:26:03.960 need that

00:26:04.360 special secret

00:26:05.500 budget.

00:26:06.440 They just use

00:26:07.640 the regular

00:26:08.040 budget.

00:26:08.380 If the

00:26:09.380 CIA wants

00:26:10.220 to bribe

00:26:11.260 somebody, they

00:26:12.420 don't need

00:26:12.740 any hidden

00:26:13.400 $6.2

00:26:14.180 billion.

00:26:14.880 They've got

00:26:15.220 lots of

00:26:15.500 ways to do

00:26:15.940 it.

00:26:16.660 Just lots

00:26:17.400 of normal

00:26:17.760 ways.

00:26:19.500 So although

00:26:20.820 it's not

00:26:21.380 impossible that

00:26:22.900 the $6.2

00:26:24.400 billion that

00:26:24.980 was missing

00:26:25.880 or recently

00:26:26.560 found or

00:26:27.180 whatever it

00:26:27.560 was, it's

00:26:28.280 not impossible

00:26:29.040 to have

00:26:29.420 something to

00:26:29.960 do with

00:26:30.180 the story,

00:26:31.140 but I would

00:26:31.900 say it's

00:26:32.240 unlikely.

00:26:34.160 I would

00:26:34.500 say it's

00:26:34.820 unlikely.

00:26:35.260 because the

00:26:37.780 American NATO

00:26:39.880 side doesn't

00:26:40.760 need any

00:26:41.280 extra special

00:26:42.240 budget to

00:26:42.800 do anything.

00:26:43.780 They have

00:26:44.300 all the

00:26:44.560 money they

00:26:44.920 need to

00:26:45.300 do whatever

00:26:45.680 they need

00:26:46.180 secretly or

00:26:46.980 not secretly.

00:26:48.020 So they

00:26:48.560 wouldn't need

00:26:49.160 any tricks.

00:26:51.720 They'd have

00:26:52.120 everything they

00:26:52.680 need.

00:26:53.780 So I don't

00:26:54.460 buy that,

00:26:55.260 although I

00:26:55.640 wouldn't rule

00:26:56.100 it out.

00:26:57.020 I wouldn't

00:26:57.440 rule it

00:26:57.780 out.

00:26:58.400 It just

00:26:58.680 seems that

00:26:59.260 it doesn't

00:27:00.440 make sense

00:27:01.120 in the world

00:27:02.140 of budgeting.

00:27:03.100 I did

00:27:03.500 budgeting for

00:27:04.180 a living for

00:27:05.300 years in

00:27:06.220 the big

00:27:06.500 corporations.

00:27:07.860 And that's

00:27:08.300 the first

00:27:08.660 thing you

00:27:09.040 learn, is

00:27:10.240 that the

00:27:10.720 budget items

00:27:11.840 are not

00:27:12.400 real.

00:27:13.520 They're just

00:27:13.900 conceptual.

00:27:15.020 So you

00:27:15.320 could take

00:27:15.700 from this

00:27:16.100 budget and

00:27:16.680 put it in

00:27:17.080 that budget,

00:27:17.880 take from

00:27:18.240 this budget,

00:27:18.900 put it in

00:27:19.180 that budget.

00:27:20.080 So budgets

00:27:20.580 aren't real,

00:27:21.720 they're just

00:27:22.000 sort of little

00:27:22.440 guidelines.

00:27:25.420 So forget

00:27:26.260 about the

00:27:26.580 6.2,

00:27:27.360 there was

00:27:27.620 plenty of

00:27:28.040 money to

00:27:29.820 do anything

00:27:30.380 they wanted

00:27:30.760 to do with

00:27:31.440 or without

00:27:31.740 it.

00:27:32.820 All right,

00:27:33.420 next bad

00:27:36.280 take is

00:27:37.660 that Putin

00:27:38.600 and

00:27:39.320 Prigozhin

00:27:41.300 have reached

00:27:41.860 an agreement.

00:27:44.540 How many

00:27:45.240 think they've

00:27:46.380 reached an

00:27:46.800 agreement?

00:27:48.140 Does anybody

00:27:48.820 believe that?

00:27:50.720 And if they

00:27:51.500 reach an

00:27:51.920 agreement, do

00:27:52.440 you think

00:27:52.760 that either

00:27:53.180 one of them

00:27:53.780 plans to

00:27:54.280 keep it?

00:27:58.280 Apparently,

00:27:59.080 Russian

00:27:59.680 agreement is

00:28:01.240 an oxymoron.

00:28:03.420 I think

00:28:04.220 even the

00:28:04.600 Russians

00:28:04.840 might admit

00:28:05.540 that.

00:28:06.660 At this

00:28:07.340 level,

00:28:07.920 at the

00:28:08.360 political

00:28:09.260 level,

00:28:10.000 or military

00:28:10.780 political

00:28:11.280 level,

00:28:12.240 a promise

00:28:12.720 doesn't mean

00:28:13.180 anything.

00:28:14.540 A Russian

00:28:15.540 agreement in

00:28:16.280 writing,

00:28:17.260 verbal,

00:28:18.900 nothing.

00:28:19.860 It doesn't

00:28:20.220 have any

00:28:20.640 zero value.

00:28:22.960 So the

00:28:23.420 entire story

00:28:24.200 is about

00:28:24.520 two guys

00:28:24.980 that made

00:28:25.340 a Russian

00:28:25.720 agreement.

00:28:27.240 That's what

00:28:27.640 the press

00:28:28.000 told us.

00:28:29.080 The press

00:28:29.540 told us,

00:28:30.040 hey,

00:28:30.200 it's all

00:28:30.480 over.

00:28:30.780 Two Russian

00:28:32.040 guys made

00:28:32.840 an agreement.

00:28:35.280 That's

00:28:35.760 nothing.

00:28:36.980 That's

00:28:37.300 literally

00:28:37.780 nothing.

00:28:40.120 How about

00:28:41.140 the idea

00:28:41.680 that it's

00:28:42.120 over?

00:28:43.780 Do you

00:28:44.360 believe it's

00:28:44.780 over?

00:28:46.120 Of course

00:28:46.840 not.

00:28:47.640 It's not

00:28:48.060 over until

00:28:48.580 one of them

00:28:48.920 is dead.

00:28:49.760 Because they

00:28:50.420 can't both

00:28:50.860 live.

00:28:52.060 And it

00:28:52.520 looks like

00:28:52.900 it's going

00:28:53.200 to be

00:28:53.460 Prugosian

00:28:54.120 who's going

00:28:54.600 to be

00:28:54.760 dead.

00:28:55.380 Of course

00:28:55.860 he's going

00:28:56.180 to be

00:28:56.320 dead.

00:28:56.960 It might

00:28:57.400 take a

00:28:57.780 month.

00:28:58.620 It might

00:28:58.980 take two

00:28:59.420 months.

00:28:59.760 But he's

00:29:01.580 dead.

00:29:03.520 All right.

00:29:05.720 So does

00:29:07.460 it make

00:29:07.760 any sense

00:29:08.260 to you

00:29:08.640 that Wagner

00:29:09.260 made an

00:29:09.820 agreement

00:29:10.220 and that

00:29:11.440 this was

00:29:12.000 the agreement?

00:29:13.360 The agreement

00:29:13.940 was that

00:29:14.900 they would

00:29:15.400 get a

00:29:16.360 couple of

00:29:16.700 people fired

00:29:17.480 but those

00:29:18.920 firings

00:29:19.420 wouldn't

00:29:19.860 really have

00:29:20.280 much to

00:29:20.660 do with

00:29:20.920 them because

00:29:21.440 they wouldn't

00:29:21.840 be in the

00:29:22.200 war anymore.

00:29:24.300 So they'd

00:29:25.040 solve a

00:29:25.420 problem that

00:29:26.000 was irrelevant

00:29:26.600 to them

00:29:27.080 because they're

00:29:28.120 no longer

00:29:28.560 fighting that

00:29:29.100 war.

00:29:29.760 also we're

00:29:33.580 led to

00:29:34.000 believe that

00:29:34.980 Prugosian and

00:29:36.640 all of the

00:29:37.180 Wagner people

00:29:37.900 agreed to a

00:29:38.800 deal which

00:29:39.740 guarantees they

00:29:40.480 will die.

00:29:43.000 That's what

00:29:43.620 we're told.

00:29:44.400 They agreed to

00:29:45.380 a deal that

00:29:46.100 guarantees their

00:29:46.820 own death

00:29:47.260 because Prugosian

00:29:48.940 is going to be

00:29:49.360 killed in

00:29:49.780 Belarus as

00:29:50.680 soon as he's

00:29:51.220 stripped of

00:29:51.720 his military.

00:29:53.080 As soon as

00:29:53.860 his military is

00:29:54.680 now surrounding

00:29:55.340 him, he gets

00:29:57.600 poisoned.

00:29:58.000 falls off a

00:29:59.600 balcony.

00:30:00.980 Now what

00:30:01.340 about all

00:30:01.680 those Wagner

00:30:02.240 people who

00:30:02.820 are going to

00:30:03.080 be absorbed

00:30:03.600 into the

00:30:04.060 regular Russian

00:30:04.760 military?

00:30:05.860 Well I saw

00:30:06.460 one military

00:30:07.180 person explain

00:30:08.020 it this way.

00:30:09.700 The regular

00:30:11.040 soldiers, when

00:30:13.020 they see the

00:30:13.720 stink of the

00:30:15.100 Wagner on

00:30:16.200 this person,

00:30:17.740 they're going

00:30:17.980 to say,

00:30:18.260 hey, yeah,

00:30:18.980 you're one of

00:30:20.160 us.

00:30:20.480 Hey, welcome

00:30:21.660 to the unit.

00:30:22.820 All right, your

00:30:23.320 job will be to

00:30:24.600 check for mines.

00:30:25.580 Uh, no, you

00:30:28.200 won't have any

00:30:28.580 equipment.

00:30:29.700 Um, not

00:30:30.300 equipment, just

00:30:30.780 feel around.

00:30:32.000 Just go out

00:30:32.540 there.

00:30:33.340 What do you

00:30:33.660 mean you're not

00:30:34.080 going to do

00:30:34.400 your job?

00:30:35.460 No, you are

00:30:35.980 going to do

00:30:36.300 your job.

00:30:37.480 Oh, you're not

00:30:38.000 going to go out

00:30:38.420 and check for

00:30:38.920 mines with your

00:30:39.500 bare hands?

00:30:40.520 Well, boom.

00:30:42.880 Sorry, I guess

00:30:43.760 we've got to

00:30:44.080 kill you.

00:30:45.820 So the idea is

00:30:47.060 that the Wagner

00:30:48.180 guys will get

00:30:49.100 all of the most

00:30:49.940 dangerous, worst

00:30:50.920 assignments until

00:30:52.460 they die or

00:30:53.620 revolt or get

00:30:54.800 fragged or

00:30:55.460 something.

00:30:56.140 So basically

00:30:56.800 they're all

00:30:57.260 dead or wish

00:30:58.940 they would be.

00:31:00.400 Right?

00:31:00.840 So do you

00:31:01.560 think that

00:31:02.040 Wagner agreed

00:31:03.480 to a deal that

00:31:04.380 guarantees all

00:31:05.300 of their deaths?

00:31:07.980 I don't.

00:31:09.880 I don't.

00:31:10.720 So whatever

00:31:11.460 happened, I

00:31:12.280 don't believe

00:31:12.880 that, uh,

00:31:15.000 Pergosian had

00:31:15.840 any, any

00:31:17.500 intention of

00:31:18.140 keeping his

00:31:18.720 side.

00:31:20.000 Now, if

00:31:21.460 Pergosian is

00:31:22.200 going to

00:31:22.760 Belarus, we'd

00:31:24.540 probably see

00:31:25.100 some preparations

00:31:26.480 because you'd

00:31:27.180 think it would

00:31:27.600 happen pretty

00:31:28.160 quickly, right?

00:31:29.740 Has anybody

00:31:30.260 seen Pergosian

00:31:31.100 today?

00:31:32.740 Um, is he

00:31:33.520 making any

00:31:33.960 videos?

00:31:35.360 Do we know

00:31:36.120 where his

00:31:36.480 military is?

00:31:38.220 I think he's

00:31:39.080 already in hiding,

00:31:39.840 right?

00:31:40.820 He's probably

00:31:41.480 already hiding.

00:31:42.980 Do you think

00:31:43.660 he's not already

00:31:44.420 trying to figure

00:31:45.520 out how to kill

00:31:46.280 Putin to

00:31:47.580 assassinate him?

00:31:48.760 Looking for

00:31:49.320 somebody on the

00:31:49.940 inside who might

00:31:50.540 do it for him?

00:31:51.680 Of course he

00:31:52.360 is.

00:31:52.980 Of course he

00:31:53.820 is.

00:31:55.300 I don't think

00:31:56.060 he'll succeed,

00:31:56.980 but of course

00:31:57.520 he is.

00:31:58.740 Do you think

00:31:59.160 Putin's already

00:31:59.920 planning to have

00:32:00.880 him killed if

00:32:01.420 they can find

00:32:02.000 him and he's

00:32:02.420 probably, he's

00:32:03.160 probably already

00:32:03.680 in hiding?

00:32:04.440 And not in

00:32:05.280 Belarus either.

00:32:07.500 Yeah, he's

00:32:07.880 probably in hiding.

00:32:09.020 My guess is you're

00:32:10.060 not going to hear

00:32:10.520 from him again.

00:32:12.820 You may never

00:32:13.720 hear from him

00:32:14.320 again.

00:32:15.200 He may simply

00:32:16.120 already have

00:32:16.820 disappeared.

00:32:17.760 He might already

00:32:18.560 be dead.

00:32:19.660 You wouldn't

00:32:20.060 know.

00:32:20.280 All right.

00:32:23.520 So, I do

00:32:25.160 not believe that

00:32:25.920 the Wagner

00:32:26.320 people agreed

00:32:27.780 to go into

00:32:28.760 the kill

00:32:29.160 box.

00:32:30.360 All right,

00:32:30.760 here's the

00:32:31.160 deal.

00:32:31.880 If you'll

00:32:32.580 give us what

00:32:33.080 we want,

00:32:34.160 we'll go into

00:32:34.880 the kill

00:32:35.260 box.

00:32:36.760 No, no,

00:32:37.820 they did not

00:32:38.400 agree to that.

00:32:44.240 So, the

00:32:45.180 next question

00:32:45.720 is, was

00:32:46.300 it a PSYOP?

00:32:48.460 Was it a

00:32:49.180 PSYOP and

00:32:50.220 it was never

00:32:51.140 a real

00:32:52.040 thing?

00:32:56.300 How many

00:32:56.880 think it

00:32:57.180 was a

00:32:57.500 PSYOP?

00:33:01.960 You have

00:33:02.700 to be

00:33:02.980 brave to

00:33:03.500 say yes

00:33:03.900 to this

00:33:04.200 since you

00:33:04.540 know I'm

00:33:04.820 going to be

00:33:05.080 talking about

00:33:05.580 the worst

00:33:06.200 stakes?

00:33:09.140 I haven't

00:33:09.760 ruled it

00:33:10.140 out.

00:33:10.980 I suppose it

00:33:11.820 would depend

00:33:12.300 on your

00:33:13.640 definition of

00:33:14.320 a PSYOP.

00:33:15.760 The people

00:33:16.620 who said

00:33:17.100 it was a

00:33:17.700 plan to

00:33:18.280 find out

00:33:18.680 who the

00:33:19.040 traders are,

00:33:20.500 I think

00:33:20.900 that's the

00:33:21.380 least likely

00:33:22.060 possibility.

00:33:23.840 Because you

00:33:24.460 wouldn't do

00:33:24.880 this just

00:33:26.740 to find some

00:33:27.380 traders.

00:33:28.560 There are

00:33:28.880 other ways to

00:33:29.520 do it,

00:33:30.120 like every

00:33:30.780 other way to

00:33:31.320 do it.

00:33:32.060 You wouldn't

00:33:32.500 do it this

00:33:32.900 way.

00:33:33.920 Now, I'm

00:33:34.700 not even

00:33:35.020 going to get

00:33:35.340 into the

00:33:35.660 details of

00:33:36.220 why you

00:33:36.460 wouldn't do

00:33:36.780 it this

00:33:37.060 way.

00:33:37.260 But you

00:33:37.960 don't have

00:33:38.440 your most

00:33:41.920 important

00:33:42.420 military person

00:33:43.480 come out in

00:33:45.140 public and

00:33:45.800 say that the

00:33:46.260 reason for

00:33:46.760 the war was

00:33:47.260 bullshit and

00:33:47.820 you don't

00:33:48.040 need to be

00:33:48.460 there.

00:33:49.660 You wouldn't

00:33:50.320 do that as

00:33:51.160 part of an

00:33:51.600 op.

00:33:52.240 And the

00:33:52.620 reason you

00:33:53.020 wouldn't do

00:33:53.320 that is you

00:33:53.980 could do

00:33:54.320 other things

00:33:55.020 that might

00:33:55.360 make it look

00:33:55.920 credible without

00:33:57.220 giving away the

00:33:58.240 main narrative

00:33:58.900 that you're

00:33:59.440 trying to

00:33:59.780 protect.

00:34:00.820 If it were

00:34:01.520 the only way

00:34:02.260 to do the

00:34:02.800 op, then I

00:34:04.080 would say,

00:34:04.460 well, maybe.

00:34:06.260 It was the

00:34:06.700 only way they

00:34:07.240 could do

00:34:07.640 it, so even

00:34:08.800 though they

00:34:09.120 didn't want to

00:34:09.740 change the

00:34:10.220 narrative, maybe

00:34:11.800 they took a

00:34:12.300 chance because it

00:34:12.860 was just the

00:34:13.280 only way to

00:34:13.820 do it.

00:34:14.980 But it wasn't

00:34:15.480 the only way

00:34:16.040 to do it.

00:34:17.160 It wasn't the

00:34:17.620 only way to

00:34:18.020 do anything.

00:34:19.180 So I can't

00:34:21.060 wrap my head

00:34:21.640 around the

00:34:22.100 possibility that

00:34:22.980 they would give

00:34:23.540 up the main

00:34:25.080 thing that would

00:34:25.780 cause good

00:34:26.740 morale among

00:34:27.460 their troops.

00:34:29.040 The main

00:34:29.540 thing is that

00:34:30.420 they have to

00:34:30.780 think there's a

00:34:32.080 reason they're

00:34:32.500 fighting.

00:34:34.080 And

00:34:34.280 Purgosian took

00:34:35.140 away the

00:34:36.080 reason for

00:34:36.900 fighting.

00:34:37.640 They're

00:34:37.920 reason.

00:34:38.780 They're not

00:34:39.180 protecting Russia.

00:34:40.620 Nothing was at

00:34:41.320 risk.

00:34:42.420 There's no

00:34:42.960 reason.

00:34:44.400 There's no

00:34:44.900 way in

00:34:45.540 hell that

00:34:47.560 Putin and

00:34:48.520 Purgosian said,

00:34:49.420 all right,

00:34:49.640 here's the deal.

00:34:50.640 You're going to

00:34:51.320 say that the

00:34:51.900 whole reason I

00:34:52.580 invaded this

00:34:53.200 country is

00:34:53.700 bullshit.

00:34:55.880 And then I'm

00:34:56.840 going to pretend

00:34:57.260 like I'm out of

00:34:57.940 you and you're

00:34:58.960 going to do a

00:34:59.320 fake coup.

00:35:00.820 You're going to

00:35:01.360 shoot down some

00:35:01.960 of our

00:35:02.220 helicopters,

00:35:02.980 but just

00:35:03.760 limit it to

00:35:04.840 seven.

00:35:06.960 Does any of

00:35:07.680 that sound

00:35:08.200 like that was

00:35:08.860 a real

00:35:09.260 psyop?

00:35:12.060 Now,

00:35:12.740 add to that

00:35:13.360 the fact that

00:35:14.040 we're hearing

00:35:14.660 the news

00:35:15.060 today,

00:35:16.100 if you can

00:35:16.600 believe the

00:35:16.980 news,

00:35:17.300 Washington

00:35:17.580 Post,

00:35:18.680 that our

00:35:20.360 spies,

00:35:21.140 U.S.

00:35:21.600 spies,

00:35:22.120 knew that

00:35:23.300 Purgosian was

00:35:24.740 going to act

00:35:25.640 militarily

00:35:26.380 against the

00:35:28.240 government.

00:35:29.180 We've known

00:35:29.760 it for weeks.

00:35:32.020 Do you think

00:35:32.680 if we've known

00:35:33.340 it for weeks

00:35:34.020 that he was

00:35:34.540 going to do

00:35:34.980 it,

00:35:35.200 that it was

00:35:35.560 a psyop?

00:35:37.180 We've known

00:35:37.740 it for weeks?

00:35:39.820 No.

00:35:40.820 I feel like we

00:35:41.560 would know if

00:35:42.100 it was a

00:35:42.480 psyop.

00:35:43.900 Somehow we

00:35:44.540 had good

00:35:44.880 enough sources

00:35:45.440 that we knew

00:35:46.440 he was going

00:35:46.940 to do it.

00:35:48.460 We'd probably

00:35:49.080 know everything

00:35:49.600 about it,

00:35:50.820 or a lot

00:35:51.360 about it.

00:35:52.880 All right,

00:35:53.280 so I think

00:35:54.020 the odds that

00:35:54.640 it was a

00:35:55.220 fake coup

00:35:56.320 would be

00:35:58.140 super low.

00:35:59.700 Super low.

00:36:01.540 I suppose

00:36:02.320 anything's

00:36:02.840 possible,

00:36:03.920 but super low

00:36:04.740 odds that it

00:36:05.220 was a

00:36:05.960 psyop.

00:36:07.020 I saw

00:36:07.940 Elon Musk

00:36:08.560 mocking that

00:36:09.340 idea with

00:36:10.440 a meme

00:36:10.900 yesterday.

00:36:12.200 You wake up

00:36:13.060 in the morning,

00:36:13.560 it's another

00:36:13.980 psyop.

00:36:15.420 Although I'm

00:36:16.160 not sure he

00:36:16.560 was mocking

00:36:17.060 it or saying

00:36:17.680 it might have

00:36:18.120 been.

00:36:19.200 Because remember,

00:36:19.840 you know how

00:36:20.140 parody and

00:36:20.760 reality have

00:36:21.320 merged?

00:36:22.200 As soon as I

00:36:22.820 said he was

00:36:23.240 mocking it,

00:36:23.800 I realized,

00:36:25.400 no,

00:36:26.440 I can't be

00:36:27.100 sure.

00:36:27.360 He might

00:36:28.460 actually think

00:36:29.060 it was a

00:36:29.420 psyop.

00:36:30.700 I mean,

00:36:31.040 I don't

00:36:31.280 know.

00:36:31.820 I'd be

00:36:32.460 surprised if

00:36:33.540 he thought

00:36:33.860 that,

00:36:34.240 but hey,

00:36:35.460 maybe.

00:36:38.200 All right,

00:36:38.880 let's see.

00:36:39.800 Other bad

00:36:40.340 takes.

00:36:43.660 Russia is

00:36:44.380 done for.

00:36:45.240 So here's the

00:36:45.760 take I was

00:36:46.220 seeing on

00:36:46.520 social media.

00:36:47.780 Russia is

00:36:48.440 done.

00:36:49.460 You know,

00:36:49.620 the government's

00:36:50.260 going to fold,

00:36:50.860 the country's

00:36:51.400 going to collapse.

00:36:52.640 To which I

00:36:53.420 say,

00:36:53.800 what?

00:36:56.020 I didn't see

00:36:56.740 anything like

00:36:57.220 that.

00:36:58.460 To me,

00:36:58.860 it looked like

00:36:59.540 the strongest

00:37:00.440 military in

00:37:01.600 Russia took

00:37:03.060 a run at

00:37:03.820 something that

00:37:04.580 was at least

00:37:05.220 threatening to

00:37:06.080 be a coup,

00:37:07.240 and Putin

00:37:08.440 squashed it

00:37:09.220 with a few

00:37:10.440 threats.

00:37:12.920 Now,

00:37:13.440 I saw a

00:37:13.880 report that

00:37:14.700 didn't have

00:37:15.100 any sources,

00:37:15.800 so I don't

00:37:16.100 believe it,

00:37:17.000 but if you

00:37:18.440 were Putin,

00:37:19.860 wouldn't you

00:37:20.420 have the names

00:37:21.440 of all the

00:37:21.960 family members

00:37:22.740 of at least

00:37:23.800 the leadership

00:37:24.520 of Wagner?

00:37:26.480 Wouldn't you

00:37:26.960 know where

00:37:27.340 their grandma

00:37:27.860 lived and

00:37:28.560 where their

00:37:29.040 cousins and

00:37:30.000 their kids

00:37:30.380 lived?

00:37:31.480 And don't

00:37:32.000 you think

00:37:32.340 they were

00:37:32.600 all rounded

00:37:33.100 up?

00:37:34.440 Don't you

00:37:34.800 think Putin

00:37:35.300 said,

00:37:36.240 hey,

00:37:36.480 Pergoshan,

00:37:37.780 are your

00:37:38.420 generals there?

00:37:39.400 Are your

00:37:40.380 colonels and

00:37:41.020 everybody there?

00:37:42.080 I want to

00:37:42.580 read the names

00:37:43.140 of their

00:37:43.420 family members.

00:37:45.160 And then he

00:37:45.780 just reads the

00:37:46.380 names of their

00:37:46.940 family members

00:37:47.640 and their

00:37:48.000 addresses.

00:37:49.480 All right,

00:37:49.760 let's see.

00:37:50.140 This is

00:37:50.760 Colonel

00:37:51.440 Victor,

00:37:52.320 blah,

00:37:52.480 blah,

00:37:52.540 blah.

00:37:53.060 Let's see.

00:37:53.660 Your wife

00:37:54.520 is blah,

00:37:55.320 blah,

00:37:55.420 blah.

00:37:55.740 Your sister

00:37:56.440 is,

00:37:56.920 your brother

00:37:57.320 is,

00:37:58.160 your father

00:37:58.720 is,

00:37:59.720 and then you

00:38:00.140 just give

00:38:00.480 them all

00:38:00.700 their addresses.

00:38:02.560 That's the

00:38:03.100 end of the

00:38:04.240 coup.

00:38:05.240 All you

00:38:05.700 have to do

00:38:06.080 is give

00:38:06.380 them their

00:38:06.740 names and

00:38:07.200 addresses so

00:38:08.480 you know

00:38:08.840 that Putin

00:38:09.640 knows exactly

00:38:10.400 where they

00:38:10.780 live and

00:38:11.180 who they

00:38:11.480 are,

00:38:12.440 and they

00:38:13.020 turn around.

00:38:14.060 And I

00:38:14.300 think that's

00:38:14.780 probably what

00:38:15.240 happened,

00:38:16.020 honestly.

00:38:17.100 I think

00:38:17.520 probably that

00:38:18.520 they actually

00:38:19.160 agreed to

00:38:24.580 go in

00:38:24.800 the kill

00:38:25.120 box.

00:38:25.900 The only

00:38:26.540 reason you

00:38:27.000 would agree

00:38:27.560 to go in

00:38:28.040 the kill

00:38:28.320 box is to

00:38:29.840 save your

00:38:30.200 own family.

00:38:32.160 Right?

00:38:33.120 To save your

00:38:33.800 own family,

00:38:34.720 you actually

00:38:35.620 would agree

00:38:36.180 to go in

00:38:36.560 the kill

00:38:36.840 box.

00:38:38.240 That's the

00:38:38.840 one time

00:38:39.220 you would

00:38:39.480 do it.

00:38:39.820 So it

00:38:41.860 certainly

00:38:42.140 looks like

00:38:42.860 that.

00:38:43.960 I'm only

00:38:44.620 speculating,

00:38:45.460 I can't

00:38:45.840 know, but

00:38:46.680 it looks

00:38:47.080 like Putin

00:38:48.880 just said,

00:38:49.780 if you

00:38:50.420 leave now,

00:38:51.680 everybody

00:38:52.040 gets to

00:38:52.600 live at

00:38:53.000 least

00:38:53.200 temporarily.

00:38:55.180 If you

00:38:55.800 take one

00:38:56.380 foot into

00:38:56.980 Moscow, I'm

00:38:58.760 going to

00:38:58.920 start killing

00:38:59.400 your family

00:38:59.960 one at a

00:39:01.820 time.

00:39:04.180 I think

00:39:04.880 that got

00:39:05.240 him to

00:39:05.500 turn around.

00:39:06.460 Now, I

00:39:06.700 don't think

00:39:07.060 they, I

00:39:07.460 don't think

00:39:07.780 Purgosian

00:39:08.380 has agreed

00:39:09.140 to go to

00:39:09.600 Belarus,

00:39:10.140 really.

00:39:11.120 I think

00:39:11.600 he's going

00:39:11.960 to run.

00:39:13.340 But, you

00:39:14.020 know, it

00:39:14.180 bought him

00:39:14.460 time just

00:39:15.180 to act

00:39:15.960 as if he

00:39:16.400 was.

00:39:17.740 All right.

00:39:21.800 There's a

00:39:22.400 take that

00:39:22.840 says that

00:39:23.280 Putin didn't

00:39:23.800 handle it

00:39:24.400 well.

00:39:25.460 He didn't

00:39:25.740 do a good

00:39:26.160 job of

00:39:26.580 managing the

00:39:27.980 coup.

00:39:28.900 That's not

00:39:29.320 what I

00:39:29.620 saw.

00:39:31.620 I thought

00:39:32.320 Putin handled

00:39:32.980 it like

00:39:33.820 the best

00:39:35.040 dictator ever.

00:39:37.260 When

00:39:37.740 Purgosian's

00:39:40.900 troops rolled

00:39:41.740 into Rostov

00:39:42.920 on Don

00:39:43.500 and they

00:39:44.220 got no

00:39:45.600 resistance,

00:39:47.380 do you

00:39:47.660 think that

00:39:48.000 was because

00:39:48.640 all the

00:39:49.800 people there

00:39:50.360 were on

00:39:50.720 their side

00:39:51.300 or was

00:39:52.760 it just

00:39:53.040 a bunch

00:39:53.320 of Russian

00:39:53.760 military

00:39:54.240 people and

00:39:55.260 when the

00:39:56.600 public sees

00:39:57.160 Russian

00:39:57.560 military in

00:39:58.800 the context

00:39:59.380 of having a

00:39:59.940 war with

00:40:00.240 Ukraine,

00:40:01.080 they just

00:40:01.580 treat them

00:40:01.900 as heroes.

00:40:03.760 And maybe

00:40:04.320 that was it.

00:40:05.200 And maybe

00:40:05.660 the military

00:40:06.700 was ordered

00:40:08.100 not to

00:40:08.580 engage.

00:40:10.620 If what

00:40:11.460 Putin did

00:40:12.060 was tell

00:40:12.500 everybody to

00:40:13.200 not engage

00:40:14.220 or at least

00:40:15.420 not engage

00:40:16.000 much, I

00:40:16.480 think there

00:40:16.720 was some

00:40:17.000 helicopter

00:40:17.400 action there,

00:40:18.580 but don't

00:40:19.320 engage much

00:40:20.220 until they

00:40:21.180 get to the

00:40:21.600 border of

00:40:22.020 Moscow because

00:40:23.560 they're going to

00:40:23.960 get crushed if

00:40:24.680 they enter

00:40:25.040 Moscow.

00:40:25.440 So you

00:40:26.860 can kind

00:40:27.180 of let

00:40:27.400 everybody

00:40:27.740 else just

00:40:28.180 stand down,

00:40:29.740 let them

00:40:30.100 be totally

00:40:30.740 exposed.

00:40:32.020 In order

00:40:32.700 to get to

00:40:33.160 Moscow,

00:40:34.020 there was

00:40:34.400 apparently

00:40:35.020 huge amounts

00:40:36.160 of open

00:40:36.640 space where

00:40:37.360 you can't

00:40:37.740 hide.

00:40:39.120 So basically,

00:40:40.720 Putin could

00:40:41.180 have just

00:40:41.540 kept them

00:40:42.260 outside of

00:40:42.760 Moscow and

00:40:44.000 then picked

00:40:44.520 them all

00:40:44.880 off from

00:40:45.220 the air

00:40:45.640 with no

00:40:46.780 real risk.

00:40:47.680 I mean,

00:40:47.880 he'd lose

00:40:48.280 some assets,

00:40:49.000 but he'd

00:40:49.540 certainly get

00:40:49.980 it done.

00:40:51.240 So Putin

00:40:52.100 was never

00:40:52.560 even in a

00:40:54.000 little bit of

00:40:54.460 trouble.

00:40:56.240 When I was

00:40:57.400 looking at

00:40:57.920 it early

00:40:58.360 in the coup,

00:41:01.360 I said you

00:41:02.420 couldn't know

00:41:02.980 who would

00:41:03.380 win.

00:41:04.440 But that was

00:41:05.000 based on one

00:41:05.900 variable that

00:41:06.660 we didn't

00:41:06.980 know about.

00:41:08.100 The one

00:41:08.520 variable is

00:41:09.140 how many

00:41:09.460 people would

00:41:09.960 join the

00:41:10.980 insurrection.

00:41:12.880 If, and

00:41:14.080 there was no

00:41:14.460 way for me

00:41:14.920 to know from

00:41:15.320 my perspective,

00:41:16.700 if it turned

00:41:17.340 out that a

00:41:17.840 whole bunch

00:41:18.200 of lower

00:41:19.320 generals were

00:41:20.200 totally in

00:41:20.880 on this

00:41:21.220 deal, well,

00:41:22.620 it might

00:41:22.820 have worked.

00:41:24.260 But if

00:41:24.640 they were

00:41:24.900 not,

00:41:25.440 it didn't

00:41:26.360 have any

00:41:26.680 chance.

00:41:27.680 So basically

00:41:28.140 the only

00:41:28.800 way it

00:41:29.140 could have

00:41:29.340 worked was

00:41:29.900 mass defections

00:41:31.360 of pretty

00:41:31.840 high-ranking

00:41:32.440 people, and

00:41:34.000 maybe

00:41:34.900 Progrosian

00:41:36.020 thought he

00:41:36.420 would get

00:41:36.760 some.

00:41:37.460 Maybe some

00:41:37.980 people promised

00:41:38.840 just to play

00:41:40.460 both sides of

00:41:41.680 things and then

00:41:42.340 didn't come

00:41:42.840 through.

00:41:43.980 Maybe.

00:41:44.940 But what it

00:41:45.520 looks like at

00:41:46.380 the moment is

00:41:47.220 that there was

00:41:47.640 never any

00:41:48.200 risk.

00:41:48.520 any risk.

00:41:49.900 When I

00:41:50.480 heard the

00:41:50.840 number of

00:41:51.340 troops that

00:41:52.360 Wagner had

00:41:53.080 to attack

00:41:54.020 Moscow, it

00:41:55.840 would be

00:41:56.180 something like

00:41:56.840 1% of what

00:41:59.200 you would

00:41:59.480 need.

00:42:00.560 Did anybody

00:42:01.240 see the

00:42:01.620 actual numbers

00:42:02.320 of what you'd

00:42:03.540 need to take

00:42:04.100 a city like

00:42:04.720 Moscow?

00:42:05.640 The numbers

00:42:06.180 you would

00:42:06.500 need?

00:42:06.980 I think they

00:42:07.560 came there

00:42:07.940 with like 1%

00:42:08.840 of what they

00:42:09.280 would need to

00:42:09.740 get it done.

00:42:11.340 It was

00:42:11.740 somewhere in

00:42:12.380 that neighborhood,

00:42:13.220 like a

00:42:13.660 ridiculously not

00:42:14.700 even close

00:42:15.420 number.

00:42:17.200 So unless

00:42:18.020 the population

00:42:19.320 joined them,

00:42:20.460 which didn't

00:42:21.040 happen, there

00:42:22.880 was nothing

00:42:23.200 there.

00:42:24.080 And I'm not

00:42:25.100 even sure the

00:42:25.720 Russian people

00:42:26.380 were ever

00:42:27.040 concerned about

00:42:27.900 this.

00:42:29.300 Did you see

00:42:29.860 the pictures

00:42:30.300 of the

00:42:30.940 Wagner group?

00:42:33.100 They were on

00:42:33.860 the sidewalk

00:42:34.420 with their

00:42:34.900 machine guns.

00:42:35.660 I think they

00:42:36.020 were just

00:42:36.380 moving into

00:42:37.440 Rostov on

00:42:38.740 Don.

00:42:39.400 And then there

00:42:40.040 was a

00:42:40.540 cleaning lady,

00:42:41.820 street cleaning

00:42:42.440 lady with a

00:42:43.020 broom, who

00:42:44.060 was standing

00:42:44.440 like 30

00:42:45.400 feet behind

00:42:46.020 the people

00:42:46.420 with the

00:42:46.760 machine guns,

00:42:47.780 and she's

00:42:48.540 just doing

00:42:48.900 her job

00:42:49.380 of sweeping

00:42:49.780 the street.

00:42:52.140 And all

00:42:53.580 of the other

00:42:54.080 Russians were

00:42:54.700 just sort of

00:42:55.160 hanging out,

00:42:55.900 taking pictures.

00:42:57.760 Nobody took

00:42:58.480 it seriously.

00:42:59.900 I don't

00:43:00.320 believe there

00:43:00.760 was anybody

00:43:01.320 in Russia

00:43:02.060 who thought

00:43:03.140 that Russians

00:43:03.680 were going

00:43:04.020 to kill

00:43:04.300 each other.

00:43:05.800 And then

00:43:06.100 they were

00:43:06.380 right.

00:43:07.360 I mean,

00:43:07.900 minus some

00:43:08.580 helicopters,

00:43:09.240 apparently.

00:43:10.160 But once

00:43:11.220 the Russian

00:43:12.440 military was

00:43:14.580 on the

00:43:15.080 ground with

00:43:15.900 a bunch

00:43:16.240 of civilians,

00:43:16.840 the fact that

00:43:18.080 the civilians

00:43:18.720 treated him

00:43:19.380 like it

00:43:19.760 wasn't a

00:43:20.320 coup may

00:43:21.840 have actually

00:43:22.300 stopped the

00:43:22.800 coup.

00:43:25.040 Because this

00:43:25.680 is one of the

00:43:26.060 tricks I teach

00:43:26.700 you if you

00:43:27.140 get in

00:43:27.760 trouble.

00:43:28.420 You just

00:43:28.800 don't accept

00:43:29.360 the frame of

00:43:30.140 the person

00:43:30.480 who's giving

00:43:30.920 you the

00:43:31.220 trouble.

00:43:32.200 So the

00:43:32.640 civilians,

00:43:33.360 they never

00:43:33.720 accepted the

00:43:34.460 frame that

00:43:35.900 there was a

00:43:36.320 coup.

00:43:38.100 It was just

00:43:39.420 business as

00:43:39.980 usual.

00:43:41.840 Which to

00:43:42.440 me is the

00:43:42.820 most funny

00:43:43.240 thing about

00:43:43.680 it.

00:43:44.080 Because it's

00:43:44.560 as if the

00:43:45.140 population knew

00:43:46.020 it wasn't

00:43:46.440 real.

00:43:47.920 Really?

00:43:48.480 Isn't that

00:43:48.900 the feeling

00:43:49.580 you got?

00:43:50.420 I never

00:43:50.980 got a sense

00:43:51.580 that there

00:43:51.920 was any

00:43:52.460 Russian

00:43:53.460 citizen who

00:43:54.280 was ever

00:43:54.680 worried even

00:43:55.340 a little

00:43:55.680 bit.

00:43:59.480 So it

00:44:00.520 was never

00:44:00.880 close to

00:44:01.680 actually being

00:44:03.340 a successful

00:44:04.000 coup.

00:44:04.780 Because the

00:44:05.140 one thing we

00:44:05.620 didn't know

00:44:06.060 about just

00:44:06.980 wasn't true,

00:44:07.960 that a lot of

00:44:08.600 people would

00:44:08.980 join him.

00:44:10.860 So,

00:44:12.020 let's see,

00:44:13.400 what else is

00:44:13.920 a bad idea

00:44:14.460 here?

00:44:16.900 Do you

00:44:17.540 think that

00:44:17.940 Putin gave

00:44:18.680 too much?

00:44:19.740 Some people

00:44:20.260 say Putin is

00:44:21.100 weakened forever

00:44:21.960 because even

00:44:24.260 though he

00:44:24.700 stopped the

00:44:26.340 coup, and

00:44:27.380 even though he

00:44:27.920 banned the

00:44:28.440 guy or he'll

00:44:29.120 kill him soon,

00:44:30.640 that he did

00:44:31.400 fire the two

00:44:32.140 people that

00:44:32.720 the guy

00:44:33.040 wanted fired,

00:44:34.340 Progrosian

00:44:34.760 wanted fired,

00:44:35.700 and therefore

00:44:36.200 he caved,

00:44:37.380 and now he's

00:44:37.960 weak.

00:44:38.640 Do you buy

00:44:39.020 that?

00:44:39.980 I don't.

00:44:42.480 Because nobody

00:44:43.220 in Russia cares

00:44:44.460 if he fires

00:44:45.420 his generals.

00:44:47.060 How many

00:44:47.660 generals has

00:44:48.240 he fired?

00:44:49.300 Just since

00:44:50.060 the Ukraine

00:44:50.720 war started,

00:44:51.940 he's fired

00:44:52.540 like six

00:44:53.260 top generals

00:44:54.080 or something?

00:44:54.920 Four to

00:44:55.820 six?

00:44:57.280 It was just

00:44:59.080 a Tuesday.

00:45:00.740 Firing his

00:45:01.360 two top war

00:45:02.360 generals is

00:45:03.060 just a Tuesday

00:45:03.740 for Russia.

00:45:05.640 Happens all

00:45:06.200 the time.

00:45:06.680 I don't

00:45:07.960 think it

00:45:08.220 had any

00:45:08.700 impact on

00:45:12.580 anything.

00:45:14.260 Do you

00:45:14.620 think that

00:45:15.600 NATO is

00:45:16.300 thinking to

00:45:17.080 themselves,

00:45:17.460 well, we

00:45:18.400 thought he

00:45:18.780 was strong,

00:45:19.420 but he

00:45:19.640 fired those

00:45:20.160 two generals?

00:45:21.620 Now we've

00:45:22.320 got our

00:45:22.600 chance?

00:45:23.460 No.

00:45:24.440 No, nothing

00:45:25.100 has changed.

00:45:26.160 It's changed

00:45:26.800 absolutely nothing.

00:45:28.300 It's just

00:45:28.740 something for

00:45:29.300 people in the

00:45:29.880 press to talk

00:45:30.560 about.

00:45:31.800 To sound

00:45:32.460 smart, oh,

00:45:33.560 he's degraded

00:45:34.320 his power,

00:45:35.340 there will

00:45:35.560 be other

00:45:36.000 challenges to

00:45:36.820 him.

00:45:37.340 No, who's

00:45:37.960 going to

00:45:38.200 challenge him?

00:45:38.680 He just

00:45:38.980 squashed the

00:45:40.180 Wagner group.

00:45:42.000 He squashed

00:45:42.940 the Wagner

00:45:43.420 group with a

00:45:44.100 phone call.

00:45:46.660 That looks

00:45:47.400 pretty strong

00:45:48.300 to me.

00:45:49.600 You can

00:45:49.920 stop a

00:45:50.420 coup with

00:45:50.820 a phone

00:45:51.180 call.

00:45:54.080 All right,

00:45:54.400 here's

00:45:54.680 CNN's

00:45:59.200 take.

00:46:01.340 Oliver

00:46:01.860 Darcy.

00:46:02.420 Now, I

00:46:03.980 always like

00:46:04.700 reading Oliver

00:46:05.380 Darcy because

00:46:06.640 there's some

00:46:07.080 people you

00:46:07.540 think are

00:46:07.920 not even

00:46:08.340 trying to

00:46:08.900 be independent

00:46:09.780 thinkers.

00:46:11.120 They're really

00:46:11.680 just on the

00:46:12.840 party line and

00:46:14.060 they're not

00:46:14.580 going to

00:46:14.820 budge.

00:46:15.800 So he's

00:46:16.200 one of

00:46:16.460 those.

00:46:19.900 He says,

00:46:20.940 one notable

00:46:21.700 thing about

00:46:22.260 this rapidly

00:46:22.920 developing

00:46:23.640 international

00:46:24.280 story,

00:46:24.960 talking about

00:46:25.520 Russia,

00:46:26.480 since Elon

00:46:27.240 Musk took a

00:46:28.100 sledgehammer to

00:46:28.920 Twitter's

00:46:29.380 verification system,

00:46:31.100 the platform

00:46:31.760 is far less

00:46:32.740 useful during

00:46:33.860 breaking news

00:46:34.980 events.

00:46:36.000 And so,

00:46:36.600 people are

00:46:37.140 depending on

00:46:37.800 traditional news

00:46:38.640 rooms for

00:46:39.140 verifiable

00:46:39.740 information.

00:46:41.640 Was that

00:46:42.220 your experience?

00:46:44.640 Was your

00:46:45.320 experience that

00:46:46.740 you had to

00:46:47.100 rely on the

00:46:48.260 platforms for

00:46:49.220 your good

00:46:49.540 information?

00:46:51.040 I listened

00:46:51.560 to Mario's

00:46:54.400 Spaces that

00:46:55.400 was on for

00:46:55.900 hours and

00:46:57.440 hours during

00:46:58.060 the thing,

00:46:58.440 and they

00:47:00.700 were looking

00:47:01.200 at all the

00:47:01.740 different

00:47:02.000 sources.

00:47:03.540 So they

00:47:03.900 were saying,

00:47:04.400 oh, there's

00:47:04.720 a report from

00:47:05.400 this source or

00:47:06.240 there's a

00:47:06.580 report from

00:47:07.040 Telegram.

00:47:08.160 Now, they

00:47:08.560 were very

00:47:08.880 clear to

00:47:09.340 say which

00:47:09.900 sources were

00:47:11.720 dependable,

00:47:12.940 and it turns

00:47:13.780 out most of

00:47:14.520 them were

00:47:14.780 not.

00:47:20.380 Okay, I

00:47:20.980 just saw a

00:47:21.420 comment that's

00:47:21.920 making me

00:47:22.360 crazy, but I'm

00:47:23.120 going to

00:47:23.400 ignore it for

00:47:23.980 a moment.

00:47:24.320 So my

00:47:27.400 experience was

00:47:28.040 the opposite.

00:47:29.800 So when I

00:47:30.520 knew that

00:47:30.900 something was

00:47:31.480 going on, I

00:47:32.480 immediately turned

00:47:33.140 on CNN, and

00:47:34.180 they were talking

00:47:34.660 about the

00:47:35.060 submarine.

00:47:37.220 So I went to

00:47:38.840 Twitter, and I

00:47:39.600 started getting

00:47:40.100 good information.

00:47:41.340 And I thought,

00:47:41.960 well, by now,

00:47:42.720 CNN has caught

00:47:43.420 up.

00:47:43.640 So I went to

00:47:44.100 CNN, and it

00:47:44.720 was a commercial.

00:47:47.060 So I said,

00:47:47.500 all right,

00:47:47.820 commercial.

00:47:48.340 So I'd go back

00:47:48.940 to social media,

00:47:50.340 I'd get all this

00:47:50.980 new information

00:47:51.740 and stuff, and

00:47:52.720 I'd say, okay,

00:47:53.280 by now, CNN

00:47:53.960 has it.

00:47:54.560 So I'd go

00:47:54.980 back.

00:47:56.900 It was a

00:47:57.440 submarine.

00:48:03.600 Goodbye,

00:48:04.220 happy accidents.

00:48:06.960 Goodbye,

00:48:09.500 you.

00:48:12.320 There's just

00:48:12.900 some people

00:48:13.360 who tried to

00:48:13.820 get blocked,

00:48:14.660 so I'm giving

00:48:15.080 them their

00:48:15.540 way.

00:48:17.260 Good for

00:48:17.900 you.

00:48:18.600 You're all

00:48:19.040 gone now.

00:48:21.320 All right.

00:48:21.840 But I would

00:48:25.080 say, I would

00:48:25.980 say that once

00:48:26.760 CNN and Fox

00:48:28.120 News and the

00:48:28.820 rest caught

00:48:29.300 up, I did

00:48:30.120 catch up with

00:48:30.740 them, news.

00:48:31.900 But I don't

00:48:32.260 think they had

00:48:32.680 any news they

00:48:33.320 hadn't seen

00:48:34.000 already.

00:48:35.800 So I would

00:48:36.300 say CNN was

00:48:37.140 not really

00:48:38.240 additive on

00:48:38.980 this situation.

00:48:41.980 All right,

00:48:42.440 Trump is doing

00:48:44.380 his Trumpy

00:48:45.080 thing, talking

00:48:46.420 about Hunter's

00:48:47.900 so-called bribery

00:48:50.160 alleged scandal.

00:48:52.840 And he read

00:48:55.560 the WhatsApp

00:48:56.260 message from

00:48:57.620 Hunter.

00:48:59.680 And he did

00:49:01.200 a mock,

00:49:02.240 acting like he

00:49:03.020 was impressed

00:49:03.620 that Hunter

00:49:05.460 Biden was

00:49:05.960 tougher than

00:49:06.460 he thought,

00:49:07.260 because, you

00:49:07.620 know, the

00:49:07.920 message he was

00:49:08.580 threatening the

00:49:09.200 Chinese guy if

00:49:09.900 he didn't pay

00:49:10.300 him money.

00:49:11.460 And he goes,

00:49:11.700 oh, he's

00:49:11.980 tougher than

00:49:12.380 I thought.

00:49:12.720 Now, Newt

00:49:16.300 Gingrich thinks

00:49:17.760 that the

00:49:18.340 Biden

00:49:19.200 potential bribery

00:49:22.140 allegations almost

00:49:24.040 guarantee a

00:49:24.760 Republican president

00:49:25.620 and it would be

00:49:26.800 Trump.

00:49:27.740 What do you

00:49:28.100 think?

00:49:29.160 Do you think

00:49:29.980 that the Biden

00:49:30.740 revelations will

00:49:33.600 make any

00:49:34.200 difference to the

00:49:34.900 election?

00:49:35.340 Because I

00:49:35.640 don't.

00:49:36.740 I don't think

00:49:37.540 it'll make any

00:49:38.020 difference at all.

00:49:39.660 And it's always

00:49:40.240 the same reason.

00:49:41.860 Either the

00:49:42.340 Democrats won't

00:49:43.100 hear about it

00:49:43.820 or won't

00:49:44.180 believe it.

00:49:46.260 But they will

00:49:47.540 believe that

00:49:48.040 Trump is the

00:49:49.000 devil incarnate

00:49:50.040 because they

00:49:51.440 were told so.

00:49:53.280 So I don't

00:49:54.120 know that any

00:49:54.680 of this matters

00:49:55.280 anymore.

00:49:56.220 I think we're

00:49:57.400 in a post-factual

00:50:00.680 world, at least

00:50:02.600 in terms of

00:50:03.080 politics, where

00:50:04.120 I don't think

00:50:04.680 the truth or

00:50:05.920 the facts really

00:50:07.320 matter too much

00:50:08.280 to anybody at

00:50:09.600 this point.

00:50:10.960 All right.

00:50:15.440 How many

00:50:16.900 Democrats do

00:50:18.800 you think are

00:50:19.220 aware of

00:50:20.060 Hunter Biden's

00:50:21.180 WhatsApp messages?

00:50:24.480 So it was a

00:50:25.060 big story on

00:50:25.920 the right-leaning

00:50:27.180 universe.

00:50:29.240 I kind of

00:50:29.700 wonder.

00:50:30.000 I think it

00:50:30.320 might be zero.

00:50:31.940 Close to zero.

00:50:32.980 Not zero, but

00:50:33.820 very low.

00:50:35.680 I mean, you

00:50:35.920 always have Jake

00:50:36.520 Tapper.

00:50:36.920 He probably

00:50:37.220 knows.

00:50:37.500 Yeah.

00:50:41.980 All right.

00:50:44.660 I saw

00:50:45.200 somebody ask the

00:50:46.660 question, how

00:50:47.100 can you spot an

00:50:47.860 NPC, a non-player

00:50:49.640 character?

00:50:50.540 So if we're a

00:50:51.480 big simulation, if

00:50:53.360 this is a

00:50:53.920 simulation in our

00:50:54.720 reality, that

00:50:56.040 means that some

00:50:56.660 of the characters

00:50:57.220 are not players,

00:50:58.200 they're just sort

00:50:59.040 of scenery, NPCs.

00:51:01.440 How can you

00:51:02.240 identify them?

00:51:03.020 I may have

00:51:04.360 told you this

00:51:04.900 trick before, but

00:51:06.880 they don't have

00:51:07.420 stories.

00:51:09.540 That's the way I

00:51:10.940 identify them.

00:51:12.080 They can't tell a

00:51:12.860 story.

00:51:14.000 If you went to

00:51:14.820 me and said,

00:51:15.480 Scott, tell me a

00:51:17.040 story about the

00:51:17.640 time you succeeded

00:51:19.060 at something, I'd

00:51:21.300 have several.

00:51:22.580 Tell me about a

00:51:23.480 time you were

00:51:23.960 embarrassed.

00:51:25.360 Several stories.

00:51:27.060 Tell me about a

00:51:28.220 time you nearly

00:51:29.100 died.

00:51:30.540 Several.

00:51:31.380 Several stories.

00:51:33.020 You can give me

00:51:34.100 almost any topic

00:51:35.000 and I can give

00:51:35.640 you a story.

00:51:37.720 But have you

00:51:38.360 met people who

00:51:39.380 can't tell you a

00:51:40.060 story?

00:51:41.120 So you say

00:51:41.580 something, all

00:51:42.160 right, tell me

00:51:43.180 a story about

00:51:43.980 something that

00:51:44.620 you really

00:51:45.560 enjoyed.

00:51:50.240 Can't, well,

00:51:54.620 I can't, and

00:52:00.460 they just can't

00:52:01.000 do it.

00:52:03.020 And my

00:52:04.260 speculation is

00:52:06.440 it's because

00:52:07.860 they didn't

00:52:08.400 have any

00:52:08.800 history.

00:52:10.760 That if

00:52:11.420 you're a

00:52:11.760 player, you

00:52:13.100 can tell the

00:52:13.640 story because

00:52:14.220 you're just

00:52:14.700 recounting

00:52:15.260 something that

00:52:15.740 happened to

00:52:16.180 you.

00:52:16.800 But if you're

00:52:17.520 an NPC, you

00:52:18.300 don't have a

00:52:18.740 history.

00:52:20.140 Nothing

00:52:20.400 happened to

00:52:20.920 you.

00:52:22.160 You're just

00:52:22.800 walking around

00:52:23.400 like scenery the

00:52:24.180 whole time.

00:52:27.500 All right, well,

00:52:28.300 I'll just put that

00:52:28.920 out there.

00:52:29.280 if you see

00:52:30.100 somebody who

00:52:30.740 is unable to

00:52:32.460 recount a story

00:52:33.420 of their own

00:52:34.100 life, you

00:52:35.420 should be

00:52:35.840 suspicious.

00:52:40.020 No, that's

00:52:41.140 different from

00:52:41.640 not liking to

00:52:42.580 tell stories.

00:52:43.580 If you are

00:52:44.340 capable of

00:52:45.180 telling a story

00:52:45.860 but you don't

00:52:46.300 like it, you're

00:52:47.000 still a player.

00:52:51.620 All right.

00:52:52.280 I don't think

00:52:54.000 anybody has

00:52:54.540 agency but

00:52:55.280 that's just

00:52:55.760 me.

00:52:57.720 Ladies and

00:52:58.380 gentlemen, is

00:52:59.820 there a story I

00:53:00.500 missed?

00:53:01.060 Is there anything

00:53:01.460 I should be

00:53:02.200 talking about

00:53:02.760 that I'm not?

00:53:05.380 What are you

00:53:06.020 talking about,

00:53:06.640 Scott?

00:53:07.540 Just Google

00:53:08.320 NPC, you'll

00:53:09.260 see what's

00:53:09.620 going on.

00:53:15.800 You disagree.

00:53:19.060 Yeah, Adam

00:53:19.920 Rich, actor

00:53:21.100 from Eight is

00:53:21.700 Enough, died,

00:53:22.280 from Fentanyl

00:53:23.220 Overdose.

00:53:24.780 I'm getting a

00:53:25.680 little bit tired

00:53:26.300 of the Fentanyl

00:53:27.200 Overdose stories.

00:53:31.100 Scott finally

00:53:32.040 woke up.

00:53:33.980 I can never

00:53:34.800 tell if you're

00:53:35.360 being serious.

00:53:41.980 Foreign policy

00:53:42.900 speech?

00:53:43.700 No.

00:53:48.520 Do you think

00:53:49.280 about Candida?

00:53:50.260 I don't know

00:53:50.580 what that is.

00:53:52.280 Wagner

00:53:56.100 admitted to

00:53:58.180 election meddling

00:53:58.900 in 2016.

00:54:01.680 Well, we knew

00:54:02.460 that there...

00:54:03.780 So Progrosian

00:54:04.480 owned that

00:54:05.060 troll factory,

00:54:06.780 which was a

00:54:08.060 total hoax.

00:54:10.080 Right?

00:54:10.280 So we were told

00:54:10.980 that Russia was

00:54:13.240 interfering on

00:54:14.960 social media.

00:54:15.640 media, but

00:54:16.540 then if you

00:54:16.960 actually look at

00:54:17.660 the memes,

00:54:19.180 some of them

00:54:19.880 are pro-Hillary

00:54:21.460 and some of

00:54:22.180 them are pro-Trump.

00:54:23.460 So first of all,

00:54:24.560 it's not even

00:54:25.160 clear they had a

00:54:25.880 specific agenda.

00:54:27.800 Secondly, if you

00:54:28.640 look at the

00:54:29.060 memes, they're so

00:54:30.380 weak.

00:54:31.860 They're so weak,

00:54:33.020 the memes,

00:54:33.940 they had no impact

00:54:34.900 on anything.

00:54:35.540 And I didn't even

00:54:36.220 see any of them.

00:54:37.500 So there's no

00:54:38.380 chance that he had

00:54:39.160 an actual impact.

00:54:40.640 But interfere, he

00:54:42.040 did.

00:54:42.200 I mean, he

00:54:43.140 attempted to

00:54:43.860 interfere, so you

00:54:44.660 could call that

00:54:45.160 interference.

00:54:46.400 But interfering in

00:54:47.400 any way that

00:54:47.940 mattered, no.

00:54:49.140 There's no

00:54:49.560 evidence that any

00:54:50.260 of it mattered.

00:54:53.960 Some people

00:54:54.740 think the stuff

00:54:55.440 growing on your

00:54:56.180 tongue controls

00:54:57.200 your actions.

00:54:59.960 All right.

00:55:02.840 Could steroids

00:55:03.960 hurt your voice

00:55:04.680 box?

00:55:05.220 I don't know.

00:55:09.280 I need to see

00:55:10.220 his speech.

00:55:12.200 Do you think

00:55:21.200 Progrosian was

00:55:22.140 dumb enough to

00:55:23.200 kick off a bad

00:55:25.280 coup?

00:55:26.620 No.

00:55:27.300 I think that

00:55:27.880 Progrosian believed

00:55:29.160 that he could pull

00:55:30.560 it off, and then

00:55:32.260 something changed.

00:55:33.560 Because remember,

00:55:34.400 in a coup, I mean,

00:55:35.800 you can plan, but

00:55:36.840 things are going to

00:55:37.700 happen.

00:55:38.340 And I think the

00:55:38.960 part that didn't

00:55:40.760 materialize is

00:55:41.920 people taking

00:55:43.260 his side.

00:55:45.160 So I think that's

00:55:45.840 the part that

00:55:46.280 didn't materialize.

00:55:47.840 Just a guess.

00:55:49.220 So, no, I don't

00:55:50.400 think that, I don't

00:55:51.620 think the fact that

00:55:52.700 the coup didn't

00:55:53.860 look like it could

00:55:54.560 work, at least on

00:55:55.500 paper, doesn't look

00:55:57.000 like it could have

00:55:57.680 worked.

00:55:58.220 I don't think that

00:55:59.200 means it was a

00:55:59.920 psyop.

00:56:01.760 Because, again, it

00:56:02.760 would be the dumbest

00:56:03.520 psyop anybody ever

00:56:04.500 did.

00:56:04.760 It just means

00:56:08.280 there's something

00:56:08.680 we don't know

00:56:09.220 about it.

00:56:10.820 See, my

00:56:12.040 speculation is that

00:56:13.400 Putin rounded up

00:56:14.140 their families.

00:56:15.940 And I think that

00:56:16.960 that may have been

00:56:17.720 just a blind spot.

00:56:19.760 You know, maybe

00:56:20.860 Progrosian just

00:56:21.700 didn't see that

00:56:23.720 happening.

00:56:25.260 By the way, this

00:56:26.160 is the same

00:56:26.680 argument for why

00:56:27.760 the Second

00:56:29.440 Amendment is

00:56:30.020 important, despite

00:56:31.080 the fact that the

00:56:32.000 military of the

00:56:32.720 country has bigger

00:56:33.440 weapons.

00:56:34.760 Because if there

00:56:36.380 were ever some

00:56:36.880 kind of, you

00:56:37.460 know, dictator

00:56:38.240 takeover, and it

00:56:39.900 was supported by

00:56:40.700 some military group

00:56:42.240 of Americans, the

00:56:44.000 first thing the

00:56:44.640 Americans would do

00:56:45.400 is round up their

00:56:46.140 families.

00:56:47.560 They're not going

00:56:48.160 to fight directly

00:56:48.940 against the

00:56:49.420 military.

00:56:50.440 They're going to

00:56:50.900 go get your

00:56:51.400 cousin and your

00:56:52.080 brother and your

00:56:52.740 mother and your

00:56:53.400 grandmother, and

00:56:54.840 then they're going

00:56:55.600 to shoot them one

00:56:56.240 at a time until

00:56:56.940 we get the country

00:56:58.080 back.

00:57:00.220 That's what's

00:57:00.840 going to happen.

00:57:02.280 Now, I can tell

00:57:03.720 you that'll happen

00:57:04.280 because I'll

00:57:04.680 probably be an

00:57:05.720 underground leader

00:57:06.520 if that happens.

00:57:08.460 And that's what I

00:57:09.320 would order.

00:57:10.460 Those would be my

00:57:11.260 orders, round up

00:57:12.220 their family.

00:57:13.920 As horrible as

00:57:14.940 that is, it's war.

00:57:17.640 You do what you

00:57:18.180 got to do.

00:57:21.700 So, yeah.

00:57:26.280 You wouldn't kill

00:57:27.160 their families?

00:57:28.300 Well, then you

00:57:28.960 will be killed

00:57:29.500 yourself.

00:57:30.460 You always have a

00:57:30.980 choice.

00:57:32.280 I'd threaten them.

00:57:33.100 I wouldn't kill

00:57:33.660 them.

00:57:37.820 I thought it

00:57:40.000 wasn't war

00:57:40.500 anymore.

00:57:41.260 Yeah, I would

00:57:41.720 still say that

00:57:42.360 Ukraine is over

00:57:43.820 in terms of a

00:57:44.780 war.

00:57:46.120 I think it's

00:57:46.520 largely over.

00:57:47.500 I think both

00:57:48.100 sides want to

00:57:48.720 negotiate, but

00:57:50.120 they're just, you

00:57:50.860 know, trying to

00:57:51.740 get a little extra

00:57:52.600 leg up.

00:57:53.660 I think the

00:57:54.200 Ukrainians are

00:57:54.980 still probing the

00:57:56.420 Russian defense.

00:57:58.120 See if there's

00:57:58.880 any holes there.

00:57:59.560 Do you think

00:58:01.220 that having

00:58:02.820 Purgosian gone

00:58:04.580 will have a big

00:58:05.620 effect on the

00:58:06.560 military

00:58:07.480 effectiveness?

00:58:10.580 You do?

00:58:11.780 I'm going to say

00:58:12.600 no.

00:58:13.720 Because, first of

00:58:14.440 all, Purgosian was

00:58:15.340 an offensive force,

00:58:17.180 and the Russians

00:58:17.960 aren't looking to

00:58:19.300 be as offensive,

00:58:20.720 you know, except

00:58:21.460 artillery and

00:58:23.300 planes and stuff.

00:58:24.460 It looks like

00:58:25.020 they're more of a

00:58:25.620 defensive military.

00:58:27.840 military, and I'm

00:58:30.000 coming to the

00:58:30.860 belief that the

00:58:32.180 Wagner group was

00:58:33.020 more PR than

00:58:34.080 effective, that

00:58:36.340 because Purgosian

00:58:37.300 got the most

00:58:37.900 attention, we came

00:58:39.740 to see them as

00:58:40.720 the fiercest

00:58:41.540 fighters making

00:58:42.360 the most

00:58:42.780 difference.

00:58:43.880 There's no real

00:58:44.800 proof of that.

00:58:46.280 There's no real

00:58:47.200 proof, and 100%

00:58:48.820 of what top

00:58:49.780 Russians say is

00:58:50.560 always a lie.

00:58:52.440 So where do we

00:58:54.000 know these

00:58:54.620 Wagner groups were

00:58:56.740 the extra special

00:58:57.740 bad ones?

00:59:00.040 I don't know.

00:59:00.580 I think Purgosian

00:59:01.300 told us.

00:59:02.420 So I'm not sure

00:59:03.060 that they were

00:59:03.800 ever as bad or

00:59:05.140 as effective.

00:59:05.920 I don't think they

00:59:06.460 were ever as

00:59:07.180 effective as it

00:59:09.540 was presented.

00:59:11.100 And I think that

00:59:11.920 you could take

00:59:12.600 them completely

00:59:13.320 out of the war,

00:59:14.300 which just

00:59:14.880 happened.

00:59:15.840 They basically

00:59:16.340 got completely

00:59:17.080 taken out of

00:59:17.640 the war, and

00:59:18.680 there'll be no

00:59:19.060 difference.

00:59:20.040 I'll bet you

00:59:20.400 won't see any

00:59:20.840 difference at all.

00:59:21.420 Why believe

00:59:27.620 Purgosian's coup

00:59:28.740 statements?

00:59:30.300 Did I say I

00:59:31.320 did?

00:59:32.760 Did I say I

00:59:33.760 believed anything

00:59:34.980 he said?

00:59:36.880 I don't believe

00:59:37.900 that happened.

00:59:38.400 Wagner drawing

00:59:49.740 Ukraine into

00:59:50.540 making a

00:59:51.120 mistake.

00:59:54.020 So some of

00:59:55.160 you think the

00:59:55.740 PSYOP was

00:59:57.440 designed to

00:59:58.200 make Ukraine

00:59:59.080 think that they

01:00:00.140 had an easy

01:00:00.700 time and then

01:00:01.620 lead their

01:00:02.660 soldiers into

01:00:03.420 a kill

01:00:04.640 box.

01:00:08.300 That wouldn't

01:00:09.020 be a very

01:00:09.420 good plan.

01:00:13.380 Are Musk and

01:00:14.860 Zuck really

01:00:15.540 going to fight?

01:00:16.400 I would bet

01:00:16.980 against it,

01:00:17.680 actually.

01:00:18.660 I'd bet

01:00:19.060 against it.

01:00:19.780 But it's very

01:00:20.340 possible.

01:00:21.940 I mean, it

01:00:22.460 could be like

01:00:23.040 a 50% chance.

01:00:24.420 I just don't

01:00:25.160 think that when

01:00:25.820 it comes right

01:00:26.340 down to it,

01:00:27.000 they're going

01:00:27.280 to put on

01:00:28.700 the tight

01:00:29.760 shorts and

01:00:30.500 start duking

01:00:32.840 it out.

01:00:33.420 I just

01:00:33.700 don't see

01:00:34.100 it.

01:00:40.180 All right.

01:00:42.960 Let's fight

01:00:43.680 between those

01:00:44.520 two.

01:00:44.940 It would be

01:00:45.280 fun to

01:00:45.620 watch.

01:00:50.340 Believes

01:00:50.780 Trump hoaxes

01:00:51.460 still?

01:00:54.680 Do you

01:00:55.260 think Rogan

01:00:56.520 believes the

01:00:57.260 Trump hoaxes?

01:00:58.320 Well, there

01:00:58.940 were probably

01:00:59.280 something specific

01:01:00.640 that Rogan

01:01:02.340 had a problem

01:01:02.800 with.

01:01:03.420 But I

01:01:05.500 don't know

01:01:05.720 what that

01:01:05.960 was.

01:01:13.860 Mocking

01:01:14.300 some mockers.

01:01:15.080 Gorgosian

01:01:24.180 didn't say

01:01:24.920 Putin would

01:01:25.580 go after

01:01:25.980 his family.

01:01:26.840 Sounds like

01:01:27.460 a bad

01:01:27.860 take.

01:01:28.680 Now, the

01:01:29.340 take is not

01:01:29.900 based on any

01:01:30.620 information from

01:01:31.680 the news.

01:01:33.680 The take is

01:01:34.580 based on what's

01:01:35.300 obvious.

01:01:37.020 Are you

01:01:37.560 telling me that

01:01:38.120 if you were

01:01:38.600 Putin, you

01:01:39.040 would not have

01:01:39.600 rounded up

01:01:40.080 their families?

01:01:40.540 You can't

01:01:42.300 tell me that.

01:01:43.600 Seriously?

01:01:45.160 Of course

01:01:45.780 you would.

01:01:46.700 It would be

01:01:47.000 the first thing

01:01:47.560 you did.

01:01:48.500 That's like

01:01:49.120 top of the

01:01:50.200 list.

01:01:50.760 Of course

01:01:51.140 you would.

01:01:51.460 Yeah.

01:01:56.500 You retweeted

01:01:57.880 it yesterday.

01:01:58.980 What was it?

01:01:59.860 Metaverse

01:02:07.600 people don't

01:02:08.380 have links.

01:02:12.000 You know, I

01:02:12.760 was also

01:02:13.160 wondering if

01:02:13.720 the increase

01:02:14.560 in Bitcoin

01:02:15.740 was related

01:02:17.000 to anything

01:02:17.620 happening in

01:02:18.320 Russia.

01:02:19.780 Has anybody

01:02:20.500 speculated that

01:02:21.420 yet?

01:02:22.360 Do you see

01:02:22.780 Bitcoin sort of

01:02:23.920 zoomed in the

01:02:24.660 last few days?

01:02:26.200 Made me wonder,

01:02:27.020 did somebody

01:02:27.720 need to buy

01:02:28.380 a bunch of

01:02:28.840 Bitcoin to

01:02:30.740 bribe somebody?

01:02:33.060 Maybe.

01:02:35.860 I don't know.

01:02:38.240 Blackrock,

01:02:39.060 you're saying?

01:02:41.660 You're telling

01:02:42.300 me they

01:02:42.640 wouldn't secure

01:02:43.280 their families?

01:02:44.280 No.

01:02:44.780 How could

01:02:45.140 they?

01:02:45.880 How could

01:02:46.260 they secure

01:02:46.880 their families?

01:02:49.500 Like where?

01:02:50.460 They weren't,

01:02:50.940 unless they were

01:02:51.500 with them,

01:02:52.400 like in the

01:02:53.560 military,

01:02:54.020 they can't

01:02:54.380 secure them.

01:02:55.700 Against

01:02:56.060 what?

01:02:56.420 Unless they

01:02:57.160 left the

01:02:57.520 country,

01:02:58.100 and then

01:02:58.380 that would

01:02:58.700 be suspicious

01:02:59.300 too.

01:03:04.700 Oh,

01:03:05.240 Blackrock

01:03:05.740 is starting

01:03:06.200 a Bitcoin

01:03:06.700 ETF.

01:03:07.920 Oh,

01:03:08.420 is that

01:03:08.680 what happened?

01:03:09.360 Blackrock

01:03:09.800 started a

01:03:10.380 Bitcoin

01:03:10.720 ETF.

01:03:12.600 Well,

01:03:13.060 that would

01:03:13.300 do it.

01:03:15.760 MAGA

01:03:16.080 going after

01:03:16.620 the Patriot

01:03:17.240 Front?

01:03:17.720 Oh,

01:03:18.000 is that a

01:03:18.360 real thing?

01:03:20.020 Oh,

01:03:21.020 you have to

01:03:21.740 send me that

01:03:22.260 video.

01:03:23.020 Somebody says

01:03:23.680 there's video

01:03:24.480 of MAGA

01:03:25.660 people going

01:03:26.380 after the

01:03:27.140 Patriot Front

01:03:28.080 to try to

01:03:29.120 find out

01:03:29.480 if they're

01:03:29.720 feds,

01:03:30.100 probably.

01:03:32.080 Oh,

01:03:32.720 yeah,

01:03:33.000 you've got to

01:03:33.320 show me

01:03:33.600 that.

01:03:36.740 You think

01:03:37.360 Blackrock

01:03:37.880 is collapsing?

01:03:41.040 I'll bet

01:03:41.600 against that.

01:03:42.160 all right.

01:03:49.380 Biden

01:03:49.740 attitude

01:03:50.260 in the

01:03:50.720 White House.

01:03:55.020 Lesson

01:03:55.460 in

01:03:55.620 mockings.

01:03:56.560 Okay,

01:03:56.880 I'm not

01:03:57.120 going to

01:03:57.320 give you

01:03:57.600 a lesson

01:03:57.960 in

01:03:58.160 mockings

01:03:58.620 and

01:03:58.800 mockers

01:03:59.180 in

01:03:59.320 New York

01:03:59.600 City.

01:04:03.300 You know,

01:04:04.040 I can't

01:04:04.400 do retail

01:04:05.280 requests,

01:04:06.020 right?

01:04:07.640 You know

01:04:08.180 there are

01:04:08.480 thousands

01:04:08.800 of you.

01:04:09.380 You can't

01:04:09.960 use this

01:04:11.340 to ask

01:04:11.620 me for

01:04:11.960 favors.

01:04:14.080 It's not

01:04:14.620 going to

01:04:14.800 work very

01:04:15.240 well.

01:04:16.580 I mean,

01:04:17.360 I'm happy

01:04:18.280 to help

01:04:18.660 what I

01:04:18.960 can,

01:04:19.340 but this

01:04:20.480 isn't really

01:04:20.940 the retail

01:04:21.800 favor

01:04:22.340 platform.

01:04:24.700 Like,

01:04:25.000 hey,

01:04:25.180 I think I

01:04:25.600 can get

01:04:25.880 that guy

01:04:26.200 to do

01:04:26.440 me a

01:04:26.720 favor if

01:04:27.120 I just

01:04:27.440 shout it

01:04:27.940 like lots

01:04:28.960 of times

01:04:29.400 in the

01:04:29.700 comments.

01:04:30.900 Just lots

01:04:31.420 of times.

01:04:32.660 And then

01:04:33.040 he'll just

01:04:33.460 do me a

01:04:33.900 favor.

01:04:34.100 probably

01:04:36.860 not.

01:04:38.700 All right.

01:04:40.120 That's all

01:04:40.660 I've got

01:04:40.840 for now.

01:04:41.700 I'm going

01:04:41.960 to,

01:04:42.540 let's see,

01:04:43.480 probably going

01:04:44.380 to do a

01:04:44.720 man cave

01:04:45.240 tonight.

01:04:46.040 Best thing

01:04:46.660 in the

01:04:46.840 world.

01:04:47.480 By the

01:04:47.820 way,

01:04:48.140 you people

01:04:49.400 on YouTube,

01:04:51.960 if you

01:04:52.460 haven't seen

01:04:52.860 the Dilbert

01:04:53.400 Reborn

01:04:54.000 comic,

01:04:56.140 the spicier

01:04:56.920 version,

01:04:58.240 you can

01:04:58.880 see it

01:04:59.400 on Twitter

01:05:00.640 if you

01:05:01.780 subscribe to

01:05:02.500 me,

01:05:03.040 or if you

01:05:03.740 want to

01:05:03.920 see that

01:05:04.320 and lots

01:05:04.660 more,

01:05:05.220 including

01:05:05.560 my other

01:05:05.980 comic,

01:05:06.840 Robots

01:05:07.180 Read News,

01:05:07.880 you want

01:05:08.420 to go to

01:05:09.200 the locals

01:05:09.620 platform,

01:05:10.280 scottadams.locals.

01:05:15.180 Prediction,

01:05:15.780 RFK will

01:05:16.340 take out

01:05:16.760 Newsome.

01:05:18.980 Maybe.

01:05:20.260 Could

01:05:20.660 happen.

01:05:24.480 All right.

01:05:26.820 That's all

01:05:27.440 for now,

01:05:27.880 and I'll

01:05:28.120 talk to

01:05:28.440 you later,

01:05:28.840 YouTube.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - June 25, 2023

Episode 2150 Scott Adams： Prigozhin Goes To Belarus (Maybe), Was It a Psyop？, RFK Jr. On Nuclear

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