Episode 2185 Scott Adams: Lots Of News About The Fake News (Spoiler: It's All Fake) Bring Coffee
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1 hour and 5 minutes
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145.24493
Summary
Comedian Jim Gaffigan and comedian Joe Rogan talk about the January 6th events, and it turns out, the other side of the story is a lot more complicated than you might think. And it's not even close to what you think.
Transcript
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You're only the second technical problem I've had in the last 10 seconds.
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So we've got bad sound on one platform, bad video on the other,
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How would you like to take this experience up to, well,
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levels that I don't think anybody could possibly understand?
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All you need to do that is a cup of mug or a glass of tanker,
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chalice, and a canteen jug or flask of best of liberty kind.
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It's called the simultaneous sip, and it happens now.
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There was a little bit of disruption at the beginning.
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But wouldn't you say things are going perfectly now?
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Well, I was just watching a video of Joe Rogan talking to comedian Jim Gaffigan.
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And it was a fascinating little clip in which Jim Gaffigan said, you know, that January 6th thing was pretty bad.
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And then he got to listen to Joe Rogan, who obviously is going pretty deep into the January 6th rabbit hole,
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explain to him the relationship between the intelligence groups and the president and the public,
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and kind of laid out a whole bunch of things that it looked to me as if Jim had not ever heard before.
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Now, I saw somebody tweeting around in a sort of a mocking way to Jim Gaffigan,
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that he'd been destroyed, you know, Joe Rogan destroys Jim Gaffigan.
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So let me give you some behind-the-scenes, little behind-the-scenes story, in case you see that clip.
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But, so here's some behind-the-curtains, little personal knowledge about this situation.
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Several years ago, I was in Vegas, and it was with my ex, and we were going to a Jim Gaffigan stand-up show.
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And I had done a TV commercial for Barnes & Noble years before that,
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in which Jim Gaffigan was the host of the TV commercial,
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and I appeared as an author who was in Barnes & Noble.
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So we spent a day, and I thought, oh, I know him.
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So we were both not very famous when we did the commercial.
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He didn't remember me at all, which is not surprising, because I was a new author,
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and I might not have remembered him, except that he became famous pretty quickly after that.
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So I sent a note to the, you know, one of the guys working at the theater there,
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and I said, hey, can you tell Jim Gaffigan I want to say hi after the show,
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thinking he would remember that he spent a day with me.
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Well, he didn't remember that, but he's a really nice guy,
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and he knew what Dilbert was, so he said, yeah, come on back after the show.
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So my ex and I went back, and it was just hanging out with him.
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We just hung out for, I don't know, an hour or so, chatting about stuff.
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If you imagine that you just assume he's on one side in politics,
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and that maybe Joe Rogan was on the other side,
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and it looked like Joe Rogan knew more than he did.
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I can tell you from my own interaction that Gaffigan is simply open-minded.
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He listened completely, you know, when I told him things that maybe he hadn't heard before,
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I would say he's somebody who's curious about politics
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and is completely aware that he doesn't have the whole story.
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That's exactly who you want in your country, right?
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So, you know, maybe Gaffigan has some politics that leans in some other way than you do.
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Fully listen to any explanation on the other side.
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So I wouldn't, I'd hate to see this characterized as, you know,
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somebody beat him down in this conversation or something.
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If you watch it, if you watch it, you'll see him absorbing what Rogan is saying without rejecting it.
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That's some good, that's like, that's America, right?
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That's sort of the America I want to live in, where somebody disagrees, but they fully, fully listen to the other side.
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Incorporate it, modify their opinions a little bit as warranted.
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Do you know, well, maybe you don't get them as much as I do,
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but if you're a public figure, you get the trolls that come in and just insult you.
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It's just like, ah, this guy, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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So I came up with a new troll response that I'm liking a lot.
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It doesn't matter who or what they said, just troll stuff.
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And I said, did you wake up this morning intending to be a useless turd on the sidewalk of humanity,
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You don't want to use some old 1950s saying when you could update that to a turd on the sidewalk of humanity
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Hunter Biden reached a deal on child support with his baby mama in which he would pay some amount of cash.
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But then I guess to complete the deal, he also agreed that he would give the mother of his child some of his artwork.
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So he'd give him some artwork as part of the compensation.
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Now, remember when Joe Biden said that Hunter Biden was the smartest person he knew?
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That was before he made tens of millions of dollars overseas and started selling his paintings for millions.
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He's lived his life on coke and hookers, which apparently he enjoyed quite a bit.
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And he's still making a million dollars and he's still free.
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If he's not the smartest person you know, who's doing better?
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Maybe you don't want that lifestyle, but maybe he does.
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Maybe he had exactly the life that he wanted, and so far it's working out great.
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Imagine negotiating with your ex, and you say, all right, I don't want to give you this cash every month, or at least not so much, but here's one of my paintings.
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And the ex says, that's just like a thing to hang on the wall.
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What's the price of a Hunter Biden painting if you buy it from Hunter, and what's the price of it if you buy it from his baby mama?
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It's so smart of him, because he can establish in the courts that the paintings have value, because he's selling them.
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But the market is completely limited to it coming from him when he sells it, don't you think?
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Do you think the baby mama's giving out political favors in return for selling paintings?
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So I think it's just hilarious that he got away with that.
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There's something really curious going on about the paintings themselves.
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Now, I'm only looking at them on video, so I'm not in the room with them.
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Have any of you ever seen a video of him painting?
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You know, and if you have, was he just like adding a little brush stroke to something that already existed?
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All right, so here's, let's try to do some predictions.
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Do you remember the prediction filter that said that reality, Elon Musk says this a lot, I say it too,
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that reality will go in the direction of the most entertaining outcome,
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as judged by somebody who's not personally involved.
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So from an outsider's perspective, the most entertaining outcome.
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But Hunter's paintings gives you two entertaining outcomes.
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And I want you to tell me which is more entertaining.
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One possibility is that Hunter Biden is a legit world-class artist.
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You know, he was this drug-addicted guy with problems.
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I mean, you might want, you know, you still might want him to go to jail for whatever you think he did.
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I would be very amused to find out he was, in fact, a world-class artist.
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Let's compare it to finding out that somebody else painted all the paintings.
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Like just some art school graduate or something.
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How entertaining would it be to find out that the paintings were always fake compared to finding out he's actually a legit world-class artist?
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I feel like this is the Schrodinger's, you know, cat experiment.
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So, I kind of, I don't know, I kind of hope that the reality is he's a great artist.
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Because, you know, it would be a little more, I don't know, a little more fun.
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You know, faking something is a little more ordinary.
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And have you noticed that Trump is hard to ignore?
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So, he's at this rally, and he says, Biden is a dumb son of a bitch.
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And, you know, of course, that's the viral, you know, that's the one that everybody sees.
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How can one person be so quotable all the time?
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I mean, he doesn't go ten minutes without saying something that you want to roll around in your head.
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You know, and repeat it in your head because of the way he said it.
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But, if you listen to him call Biden a dumb son of a bitch, I would like to point out the artistry with which he presented that.
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Because there are lots of ways to call somebody a dumb son of a bitch, and it doesn't come out right.
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The secret, I think, was that he delivered it as a matter-of-fact statement.
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That would look out of control, a little screechy, a little pleading.
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But when Trump says it, he says it like he's whispering it in your ear.
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He says it so matter-of-factly, it takes you a moment to figure out what.
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He just says, I can't do the impression of it, but it's more a matter-of-fact.
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He just says, and Biden, he's a dumb son of a bitch.
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And you just hear it, and you go, was that just in the middle of a sentence?
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Did he just deliver the president of the United States as a dumb son of a bitch?
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Did he say that with the same emphasis as the rest of the sentence in the paragraph?
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You know, he does not get credit for his delivery.
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All right, so that's really basically the only thing I took away from the rally.
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Because the little bit of the larger context is that Biden's not quite all there.
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The best argument is that you can see it, I can see it, we can all see it.
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I don't know how that loses, because the Democrats are not going to disagree with the argument that he's at a degraded mental state.
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So at least he'd be leading with something that nobody would debate.
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All right, so here's an opening that I think that Biden and his crew are leaving for Trump.
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As you know, they've been trying to sell this extreme MAGA thing to make you think, oh, no, those extreme MAGAs.
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Because what they don't want to say is white supremacist every day.
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Because that's a little hard to explain when there are a lot of Republicans who are Hispanic and Asian American and everything else and black.
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So it's hard to call, you know, people of color white supremacists.
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So it looked like they were going for the extreme MAGA to try to, you know, weasel that.
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Biden and his people have left undefined what extreme MAGA is.
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Which means that somebody who's good at defining things, such as Trump,
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could simply define extreme MAGA any way he wanted and make it work.
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So I've suggested that extreme MAGA would be a great Marvel character.
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the only superpower he would have is not believing anything in the news or anything the government says is true.
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Wouldn't it be funny to see a movie in which there was a character called extreme MAGA,
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who only had one power, which is not believing bullshit.
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And I think like he ended up being like an actual superhero.
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He just had to know how to not believe bullshit.
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And he could like, you know, live like a god because everybody else did.
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So he'd be sort of like the one-eyed, you know, person in the land of the blind.
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Extreme MAGA refuses to believe what the fake news and the government tells him.
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So whenever there's a tragedy, we try to turn it into conspiracy theories and humor.
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So let's talk about the tragic death of Obama's chef on a paddleboard.
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Oh, would you be surprised to learn that there are some conspiracy theories about that?
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Now, first of all, I don't believe any of them.
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However, while I don't believe any of the conspiracy theories, I would like to assert the following.
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But you know this story isn't completely true, right?
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Can anybody tell me why you know it's not true?
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The summer makes it extra, but it doesn't have to be in the summer.
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Well, I've been a public figure for over 30 years.
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At the very least, they leave out key information that would change how you think about the story.
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But never will you see a story that has any details or complexity to it that's also true.
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Now, what is true would be, let's say if somebody died in a horrible accident, they are dead.
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I think that they're probably almost 100% right when they say somebody died.
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But once you get past just the most basic fact of a story, almost everything around it is some kind of narrative or bullshit or just wrong.
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Again, I don't believe any of this is indicative of anything real.
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There's a photograph that emerged of Obama with a black eye and bandages on one hand.
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Now, what is the most likely explanation for the photograph of Obama with a black eye and cuts on his hand?
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No, the most likely explanation is it's an old photo.
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So, you know, there could be 100 reasons that you would have a black eye.
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But remember, the picture or a fake picture, yeah, could be a fake picture or a black eye or something like that.
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So the first thing I would say is that if you believe the picture is real, I think that's kind of you're being a little bit gullible if you automatically assume it's real.
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Then there's also the story, again, that has no backing as far as I know, that maybe one of Obama's daughters was maybe hanging out with a married guy on a paddleboard.
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Somebody said the paddleboard looked like Obama's, and that was the evidence that his daughter might have been there.
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I don't know that there are that many paddleboard types.
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I don't think you can tell whose paddleboard it is by looking at it.
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So don't believe anything about that or anything else about public figures.
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How many of you think the paddleboard story has something, like, illegal that Obama did?
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How many of you really think there was something illegal going on?
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Now, I wouldn't rule out that there's something illegal that went on, but I don't think it was murder.
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If, for example, somebody was drinking and they didn't want that news to come out, you can imagine that.
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So here's, and then here's my favorite part about how fake news gets started.
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How long did it take somebody to suggest that he was a young, healthy man who died of maybe a sudden cardiac arrest, that maybe he had been vaccinated lately?
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Are you disappointed you didn't think of it yourself?
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Because it happens in the context of LeBron, you know, LeBron's son having some cardiac problems and Jamie Foxx having some cardiac problems.
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And so now it's the third youngish black guy who had an unexplained death sort of suddenly.
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But I want to say there's no evidence for that whatsoever.
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And so we're about a day away from it being caused by an alien.
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Well, here's the weirdest thing that happened to me today.
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So you know how sometimes if you use Twitter, sometimes you'll tweet something and you'll think, oh, this is a throwaway tweet.
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And other times you'll tweet things that you think are kind of genius.
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You're like, ah, I think I nailed it this time.
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And then the thing you thought was a genius tweet gets no retweets because everybody just looks at it and goes, yeah, we thought that too.
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But then you'll do the one that's just a throwaway.
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And the reason I tweeted it was because I felt it.
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Like things went too far and now the correcting force is coming in.
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It doesn't mean women are not involved, of course.
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But there's definitely a thing that we would all describe as a male force and a female force.
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And when times are good, female forces rise because that's sort of a luxury feeling.
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You know, let's all be nice to each other and I'll share my stuff and you share your stuff.
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But when things go wrong and there's danger, the women typically take a different role and the men come out of hibernation.
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They do whatever dangerous and mostly dangerous things have to be done.
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And then if they succeed, they go back dormant again because you don't need that male force so much.
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Some of it I think I'm influenced by the fact that the major candidates are all male and the Republican candidates who are very specifically bringing a male perspective in a good way, not a bad way, back into the mix to maybe get us a better balance.
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There's everything wrong with either one of them being out of balance.
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Too much male energy is a problem, but too much female energy is a problem too.
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I think this is all cyclical and pendulum stuff.
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Yeah, there's definitely an energy entering the field that you just feel.
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Interestingly, after I got one point, I think it's up to 1.2 million views, just saying there's enormous correcting force forming.
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Then later I tweeted that male energy is rising.
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And that had, I think that's pushing half a million views, which are very big numbers for my account.
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The same day, Elon Musk tweeted, equally cryptically and without detail, quote, something special coming soon.
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Now, I think he was talking about maybe a Twitter feature.
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But I feel like there's just this feeling that something good is happening.
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Some kind of general feeling that there's some kind of positive thing happening.
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I saw somebody say that, you know, Musk was ruining Twitter and blah, blah, blah.
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And I always think, how does Musk ruining Twitter square with the fact that it's at an all-time high in traffic and we can't stop talking about it?
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I think I talked about it in the man cave, but not here.
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So Musk puts this giant X logo thing on top of the Twitter building in San Francisco,
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which San Francisco is not happy about because it seems to be some kind of zoning building violation.
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But they're having trouble getting up there to inspect it.
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Somehow the inspectors can't get on the roof for whatever reason.
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The entire country is talking about it, if I don't know about internationally.
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But nationally, we're all talking about his big offensive X on top of the building.
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And we're all arguing whether we like X or hate X or does some other company have the trademark
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and what's he going to do when everybody sues him because they have X's in their names too and all this.
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This is the most successful rebranding I've ever seen.
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Number one, there's nobody who doesn't know that Twitter just became X.
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Name another company that's ever done this well in making the entire country, at least.
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But making the entire country completely understand that Twitter became X.
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Now, it reminded me of there's a restaurant entrepreneur in my town who started a new restaurant.
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So he opened them and built them up and sold them in many cases.
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He paints it the most offensive purple color you've ever seen.
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It's right in the middle of the main street with the other restaurants.
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You drive past that thing and you're like, oh, God, who did that?
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You know, did the zoning regulations allow this horrible thing?
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So pretty soon it's in the local publications and everybody's gossiping about it.
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And people are saying, did you see that horrible purple building?
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And when everybody had complained about the purple building, it lasted, I don't know, six months or whatever it was.
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So after about six months of everybody complaining and the city being, you know, on their backs and everything,
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do you know what the owner of the restaurant did?
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It's the funniest thing I've ever seen a business person do.
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He wanted everybody to talk about it because it was a new restaurant.
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Every person in my town was talking about that restaurant.
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And we all had to go because everybody was talking about it.
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So then when you said, hey, where do you want to go?
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And somebody would say, yeah, I hear there's this new purple restaurant.
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So he paints it back to a regular color, sells it for an enormous profit because the business is going crazy.
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And then as soon as people were done talking about the color of the restaurant, you know, the business collapsed back to a normal level.
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And I think the guy who bought it didn't even survive.
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It was like the smartest, like, entrepreneurial thing.
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So I remember that when I was seeing Musk could do this.
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Do you think that Musk believes the X will stay there?
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Or do you think he knows there's a pretty good chance that San Francisco is going to make him take it down and he'll end up taking it down?
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Now, he might fight it some more because that's just more of the fun, right?
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So maybe San Francisco fines him $20,000 a month.
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This is Elon Musk being the entire marketing and rebranding department for all of his businesses.
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I mean, he's basically, he's doing his rebranding and probably just thinks it's hilarious and is working perfectly.
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And, you know, what will the people who don't understand anything about business or psychology say?
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Well, there he goes again with these bad decisions, they'll say.
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Now, remember, NBC News, at least according to the people who are smarter than me, that's a lot of people,
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say that NBC News is sort of in the pocket of the CIA.
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So it's important to know that when NBC News is saying something,
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you might be hearing some influence from the intelligence community.
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the news that came out that the government might be in possession of non-human biological UFOs
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There was a credible, I guess, looking whistleblower.
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The fact we might have downed UFOs and captured aliens.
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And NBC News is sort of, I don't know, I wouldn't describe an attitude to it,
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but they're reporting that the public wasn't buying it.
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Now, I realize that I have not met one person in my real life who believed the UFO story.
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but I've not spoken, not spoken to one person who thinks this is true.
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Have you spoken to even one person who thinks it's true?
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Do you remember when I told you there's, just a moment ago,
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there's a huge correcting force that's forming?
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to me it looks like an intelligence op of some kind.
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There's no way to know, but that's what it looks like.
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It looks like there was an op to change the opinion,
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They actually saw it for exactly what it was from the first minute.
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The entire public realizes that that's too far.
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That the UFO thing is telling us clearly and for forever
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and the government can't be trusted about anything.
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That everything we've been told about everything from the government
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feels like the entire public waking up and saying,
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It's almost as if the news has never been real.
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I feel as though the machinery is becoming obvious.
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He's talking only the things we know to be true.
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What we do know is that he was clearly instigating
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and was not treated like the rest of the people.
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And that January 6th was exactly the sort of thing
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if somebody was an enemy of the intelligence agencies,