Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2192 Scott Adams： You Will Enjoy This Livestream While Getting Smarter & Drinking A Beverage

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00:00:05.420 Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the highlight of human civilization and probably

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00:00:53.560 Well, let me catch up, catch you up with all the exciting news.

00:00:58.200 Are you ready for this?

00:01:00.040 Well, it turns out the Zuckerberg versus Musk fight, or the, as Musk calls it, Zuck versus

00:01:06.960 Musk, what are the odds that those two billionaires would both have a U in their name?

00:01:13.780 Just, I don't know, for some reason that strikes me as weird.

00:01:16.520 Anyway, that fight looks like it might actually happen.

00:01:22.500 It's not 100% confirmed, but they both said yes.

00:01:26.260 And Musk says it'll be streamed on X, the X Twitter platform called X.

00:01:35.360 Oh, wow.

00:01:36.760 It's an X Twitter platform called X.

00:01:40.320 Everything's weird today.

00:01:41.980 It's probably me.

00:01:42.840 So, that's going to happen, and you'll get to see that.

00:01:47.380 I can't imagine that, you know, I'm sure Facebook would do the same.

00:01:52.500 All right, today's theme, and I do have a theme.

00:01:56.780 Do you like my shows where I have a theme, or is that just for me?

00:02:03.200 All right, we'll go private on locals.

00:02:05.460 I always just assume it's just me.

00:02:07.740 But here's the theme.

00:02:09.560 You'll be fine.

00:02:10.400 You'll be fine.

00:02:13.000 Here's the overall theme.

00:02:15.000 Does it seem like you wake up every day, and the world's falling apart, and politics is going to cause a civil war, and all that?

00:02:23.940 I don't know.

00:02:24.800 It's been like that my entire life.

00:02:26.360 I actually don't remember any time in my life when it wasn't exactly like that.

00:02:32.160 The Vietnam War was going to kill me, and the communists were going to nuke me, and the atmosphere was going to fry, and the world was going to freeze, and we were going to run out of oil and run out of food, and China was going to destroy us.

00:02:48.900 And that's only if Japan didn't do it first, and that's only if Japan didn't do it first, with their superior technology and manufacturing.

00:02:54.940 So basically, what would be different about our current set of problems?

00:03:03.500 Really nothing.

00:03:04.360 It's basically more of the same, which is stuff that humans are pretty good at getting past.

00:03:12.080 Pretty good.

00:03:13.360 So I think it would be fine.

00:03:15.060 And no matter how bad things are, remember that the business model of the media is to scare the shit out of you.

00:03:23.260 That's how they make money. 0.52

00:03:24.200 So if you read media reports and you found yourself getting anxious and scared, that's what they were trying to do.

00:03:32.320 It's somewhat independent of what's actually happening in the world.

00:03:37.100 Whatever reactions you're having to world events are because of the way they're being presented to you.

00:03:42.760 It's not the actual events.

00:03:44.600 In most cases, those things will be fine.

00:03:47.260 We'll work it out.

00:03:48.720 Now, there is one thing that still worries me, which is debt.

00:03:51.920 I don't have a clean answer to debt, but I'd like to give you the most optimistic take you've ever heard.

00:03:59.920 This is so optimistic.

00:04:01.880 If you called it stupid, I probably wouldn't push back too hard.

00:04:06.140 But it's really optimistic.

00:04:07.820 You ready?

00:04:10.280 That the combination of the following technologies is going to make debt disappear.

00:04:16.120 In other words, we could owe $100 trillion, but there'll be a day when everybody looks at each other and says,

00:04:24.600 we don't really need money, and the debts will all go away.

00:04:29.620 And so whoever has the largest debt when money becomes obsolete will be the winner

00:04:35.540 because they got all that free use of money.

00:04:38.140 And then when money was worthless to everybody, their debt went away.

00:04:42.800 Now, you say to me, Scott, that's stupid.

00:04:45.060 Debt will never go away.

00:04:46.640 How could debt go away?

00:04:48.000 I mean, without paying it off, how could it go away?

00:04:49.980 And the answer is a combination of AI, robots, superconductivity, fusion, and time.

00:05:03.380 And all of those are happening, right?

00:05:06.680 Time, of course, always is happening.

00:05:08.920 But if you give it enough time, AI plus robots plus superconductivity plus fusion gives you unlimited labor and energy.

00:05:16.640 And you say, no, but, Scott, you know, there's going to be a limit to how many robots there are.

00:05:23.420 Not in the long run.

00:05:25.340 In the long run, robots will build other robots, and they'll have free energy to do it.

00:05:32.040 And then when robots can build other robots, there's really no limit to how many robots there are.

00:05:36.880 They say, but wait, they'll run out of raw materials.

00:05:41.200 No, robots will be building, they'll be looking for raw materials.

00:05:45.180 They'll be mining, they'll be digging it up.

00:05:48.400 And then AI will figure out cheaper, better ways to do it, so they'll get more and more efficient.

00:05:54.500 And then you say to yourself, but, hold on, Scott, there will still be scarcity in the world.

00:06:01.620 As long as there's scarcity of anything that people want,

00:06:05.700 you're going to have to have some money to negotiate who gets it and who doesn't, right?

00:06:09.860 And I saw the best example, the counterargument was, who decides who gets the beach house?

00:06:17.440 In your world with no money, Scott, who gets the beach house?

00:06:22.160 Well, same as today, whoever has the best weapons.

00:06:27.300 That's the way it'll always be.

00:06:29.120 Whoever has the most control of weaponry will have the beach house.

00:06:32.740 Now, I don't know if that changes when money doesn't, you know, because if you think about it,

00:06:38.720 the only reason that rich people have a beach house is because you can't go there and kill them

00:06:43.100 and take their beach house.

00:06:45.460 And why can't you?

00:06:46.560 Because the rich people control the government, the government controls the military and the police.

00:06:51.080 Military and police will keep you the hell out of the rich people's house, right?

00:06:56.080 So whoever has the best weapons gets the beach house.

00:06:58.920 That's one answer.

00:06:59.680 Here's another answer.

00:07:02.060 Every place will be a good location.

00:07:05.160 So if you're thinking to yourself, but wait, everybody's going to want the good location.

00:07:09.680 No, every place will be a good location.

00:07:11.980 Once the robots are building anything, you don't have to worry.

00:07:15.960 The AI is designing things.

00:07:19.040 You'll live in a city that's so awesome, you'll feel so good all the time,

00:07:25.040 that you won't care if you're at the beach or not.

00:07:26.980 I mean, how often are you actually looking out the window anyway, right?

00:07:31.580 So if you make every place amazing, it doesn't matter who has the beach house.

00:07:38.200 And maybe the people in the beach house will say, you know what?

00:07:40.920 I'm getting a little tired of the beach.

00:07:42.840 How about you guys?

00:07:43.880 You want to use it for a weekend?

00:07:45.660 I think things would end up working out in the long, long run.

00:07:50.300 So I'll just put that out there.

00:07:54.040 It takes a lot of thinking through the details of how it could possibly be that money would become obsolete.

00:08:00.240 But I almost guarantee it in the long run.

00:08:05.160 Would anybody take the opposite side of that bet?

00:08:08.000 Maybe not in my lifetime.

00:08:09.740 But in the long run, do you think money will still be a thing?

00:08:12.300 Remember, money only has a value when there is scarcity.

00:08:19.400 So the argument is entirely about can you make everything abundant,

00:08:24.340 or at least people don't care about their choices.

00:08:27.560 That would be the same as abundance.

00:08:29.340 You don't need abundance if you can change what people care about.

00:08:33.800 They just don't care about that beach house.

00:08:36.320 It's out of the equation.

00:08:37.760 All right, enough about that.

00:08:42.040 I just thought I'd give you a little optimism.

00:08:45.840 And LK99, which is that alleged superconductivity thing,

00:08:51.020 every day I open Twitter and say to myself,

00:08:54.660 it's not called Twitter, it's called X.

00:08:56.780 And then I look at the content after I say that to myself,

00:08:59.600 and then I see what's new in superconductivity,

00:09:03.200 because really that's the key to everything I just said.

00:09:05.380 But if, in fact, there's room temperature superconductivity,

00:09:12.220 then your AI and your fusion and everything just works, basically.

00:09:17.540 Everything would be completely different.

00:09:20.820 You know, I look at the reports, and I can't tell.

00:09:26.340 I actually don't even have a 51% feeling

00:09:31.140 about whether this is real or not.

00:09:33.500 Does anybody have confidence about it one way or the other?

00:09:39.300 To me, it looks like an absolute coin flip.

00:09:43.980 Honestly, if I had to bet, I would bet against it.

00:09:48.080 So I guess I do have a 51%.

00:09:50.180 If I had to bet, I'd bet against it.

00:09:54.000 I hate to say that.

00:09:55.600 What do you think?

00:09:56.220 The things I've seen are so obviously fraudulent

00:10:01.780 that it makes me wonder if anything isn't.

00:10:05.640 But the fact that many of the videos are fraudulent,

00:10:09.040 and somewhat obviously so, I would say,

00:10:11.920 that doesn't mean it's not real.

00:10:15.500 But I'm leaning against it.

00:10:17.440 But not strongly.

00:10:20.820 So let me say this in advance.

00:10:22.480 If I get this one wrong, I'll be the happiest wrong guy ever.

00:10:27.460 Because I'd really like to be wrong about this.

00:10:30.640 But I feel like probably it's not.

00:10:33.620 And when I say it's not real, let me put some nuance on that.

00:10:37.780 Not real in a way that it could be commercialized.

00:10:40.540 So it might be real in some technical sense that works in the lab.

00:10:45.980 But I'm going to bet against it being something that could ramp up.

00:10:52.780 51%.

00:10:53.340 Ford has allegedly submitted a patent for a self-repossessing car.

00:11:00.880 If you don't pay your payments.

00:11:04.980 And it has a very clever system.

00:11:07.700 Anyway, it's not issued.

00:11:10.700 It's just submitted for a patent.

00:11:13.260 And it would do things like decrease the services of the car over time.

00:11:21.160 So let's say you didn't pay your payments and you missed a few months.

00:11:24.780 They would turn off your air conditioning.

00:11:29.340 Isn't that diabolical?

00:11:31.200 They would turn off your air conditioning.

00:11:32.780 The car would still work.

00:11:34.280 You can still get to work.

00:11:35.680 But you better be thinking about making that payment.

00:11:38.400 Because it's going to get hot.

00:11:39.960 It's just going to get hot.

00:11:41.880 And then apparently there are other elements of the car they could turn off.

00:11:45.980 I imagine they could turn off your stereo system.

00:11:51.040 But the coolest part is if it becomes a self-driving car,

00:11:55.240 they can have the car drive to a different location on its own.

00:11:59.460 So, for example, they might have it pull out of your driveway,

00:12:03.820 you know, drive to a parking lot where they can pick it up.

00:12:07.960 But this reminds me of, do you remember Baked Car?

00:12:11.860 Was that the show?

00:12:13.040 There was a TV show where they had a special car

00:12:15.360 that they would leave unlocked for people to steal.

00:12:18.820 But once they got in the car, the doors would lock.

00:12:22.500 And then the show was about what happens once they're in the car

00:12:25.080 and they can't get out.

00:12:25.840 And they know they're going to get caught in the bank car.

00:12:29.700 I love that show.

00:12:31.340 I could watch that all day long.

00:12:34.980 But, yeah.

00:12:36.840 Anyway, so maybe something like that's happened.

00:12:39.600 All right, here's my thinker for the day.

00:12:43.160 You will disagree with this.

00:12:45.220 But the longer you think about it, the better it sounds.

00:12:52.360 All right?

00:12:52.780 So I'm going to acknowledge that your first exposure to this will be,

00:12:56.500 well, that can't be true.

00:12:57.940 Okay?

00:12:58.860 So that's the challenge.

00:13:00.220 It'll sound bad when you hear it.

00:13:02.100 It'll sound better every day you're alive.

00:13:05.800 The person with the best idea is always in charge.

00:13:08.540 The person with the best idea is always in charge.

00:13:15.500 It will take you decades to learn that in your real life.

00:13:21.080 Decades.

00:13:22.600 Now, it sounds stupid, doesn't it?

00:13:25.180 Your first impression of that is, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:13:28.340 I'll give you some pushback I got just on Twitter today.

00:13:31.920 Somebody said, what about Stalin?

00:13:35.640 What about Stalin?

00:13:36.680 Stalin, was that a bunch of good ideas? 0.95

00:13:39.640 Stalin seemed to be in charge.

00:13:42.420 And that didn't seem like a bunch of good ideas, did it?

00:13:46.500 Is that a good argument?

00:13:49.720 No.

00:13:50.840 Because here's what I didn't say.

00:13:52.700 I didn't say the person with the best idea couldn't be shot.

00:13:56.720 I didn't say that they're bulletproof.

00:13:59.240 Right?

00:13:59.880 Nothing I said is about the person with the best idea being bulletproof.

00:14:04.740 You can still kill them.

00:14:07.580 Stalin probably killed a lot of them.

00:14:10.040 So, you have to be alive in order to be in charge.

00:14:14.740 So, that's the first thing.

00:14:15.740 If you're not alive or you're in jail, that doesn't work.

00:14:17.860 But you also have to assert yourself.

00:14:22.280 Having the best idea and not telling anybody, well, that's not going to help.

00:14:26.340 That doesn't put you in charge.

00:14:28.880 But suppose you have the best idea, and this was another bit of pushback, but it can't be well described.

00:14:35.480 Does that violate my point that the person with the best idea is in charge, when that best idea is just too hard to describe?

00:14:45.880 So, therefore, maybe not, because they can't communicate it, right?

00:14:50.580 I say, not true.

00:14:55.160 I say the best idea is always able to be communicated.

00:14:59.680 I mean, maybe indirectly.

00:15:02.700 Maybe you're bad at communicating, so you tell another scientist, the scientist understands, and then the scientist communicates it.

00:15:09.780 But the best idea is going to bubble up.

00:15:12.140 Maybe not on day one, but over time.

00:15:15.280 So, here's the inspirational part of that.

00:15:21.520 If you're in the room, and you have the best idea, you are effectively in charge.

00:15:27.600 And you're going to find that over and over again.

00:15:30.140 Because the person whose job it is on paper, to be the boss, really doesn't want to make all the decisions.

00:15:38.300 They want a solution.

00:15:40.520 And so, if you have the best idea, they're going to say, okay, do that.

00:15:44.020 They'll probably make you do it. 0.56

00:15:46.480 But the best idea does always win.

00:15:48.880 Now, you're saying to yourself, Scott, I know that's not true.

00:15:52.480 Because there was that time I had the best idea.

00:15:55.220 I communicated it clearly, and nobody was buying it.

00:15:59.340 It wasn't the best idea.

00:16:02.320 I know that's hard to accept.

00:16:04.800 But if it had been, it would have actually won the day.

00:16:08.240 If not then, eventually.

00:16:09.840 So, I know your brain doesn't want to accept this.

00:16:15.800 I know it doesn't want to accept it.

00:16:17.740 But let me give you a little bit of comfort.

00:16:21.140 It doesn't have to be 100% true.

00:16:25.900 Okay?

00:16:26.980 It doesn't have to be 100% true.

00:16:29.220 It doesn't have to be true in every exception and every case.

00:16:32.020 It's just one of those things that if you reframe your situation,

00:16:36.200 and this is one of the reframes in my upcoming book,

00:16:39.220 that you're going to see pretty soon.

00:16:42.080 The reframe is to believe that if you have the best idea, you're in charge.

00:16:46.740 Even if it's not technically 100% true every time.

00:16:50.860 It still works as a reframe.

00:16:52.840 Because you should be acting as though you're in charge if you have the best idea.

00:16:57.040 You should just assume it and act that way.

00:16:59.300 It'll work out for you.

00:17:01.320 All right.

00:17:01.880 It does mean you win every situation.

00:17:06.080 I noticed that Joe Rogan was going in hard at politics.

00:17:11.040 And I thought it was almost jarring.

00:17:14.560 Did anybody have the same experience?

00:17:17.580 That Rogan being, you know, at this point,

00:17:20.320 I think you could easily say the most influential independent podcaster.

00:17:26.040 Do we call him independent?

00:17:27.200 If he's working with Spotify, I don't know what the definition would be there.

00:17:31.260 But he seems independent.

00:17:32.580 I mean, I don't think that they control what he says.

00:17:35.960 So, are we happy about this?

00:17:39.980 Are you happy that Joe Rogan is going in strong?

00:17:43.420 Because he's saying directly that Biden is incompetent.

00:17:47.140 Trump had some good things going for him.

00:17:49.320 And lots of complaints about Newsom, called Newsom a cardboard cutout,

00:17:56.380 you know, criticizing him for mandating vaccinations for children,

00:18:00.000 criticizing the science and the scientists and all that.

00:18:03.260 I guess I'm happy about it.

00:18:06.980 On the other hand, you want to make sure he's right.

00:18:13.480 It's not good if he's not right.

00:18:15.840 But he does seem to be right more than he's wrong.

00:18:19.980 Has anybody noticed that one of the great tricks of Joe Rogan

00:18:26.820 is to lull you into thinking he's not that smart?

00:18:32.660 When in fact, very much the opposite is true.

00:18:36.300 He's one of the smartest people in all of media.

00:18:39.380 And his success is not some kind of weird accident.

00:18:43.500 He didn't get lucky.

00:18:44.360 There's no luck involved in the whole story.

00:18:49.120 He was just really smart and just worked hard

00:18:52.460 and did all the right things.

00:18:54.260 Now he's in the right place.

00:18:56.900 Yeah, you know, I think that he's an example

00:18:59.860 of the Internet dads stepping up.

00:19:03.220 So, it's a good trend.

00:19:06.160 I'd like to see more voices like his

00:19:08.280 take responsibility for the fact that people are listening.

00:19:13.300 So, he's taking it pretty seriously.

00:19:15.480 I like that.

00:19:17.860 All right, here's a test of your media savvy.

00:19:21.940 Media savvy test.

00:19:24.840 Jamie Foxx, actor Jamie Foxx,

00:19:27.560 is being accused of posting something anti-Semitic on Instagram.

00:19:33.420 That's all you know.

00:19:35.200 Is it a true story or a fake story?

00:19:37.960 I mean, the story is in the news for real.

00:19:40.260 But did it really happen or is it just bullshit?

00:19:44.860 It's bullshit.

00:19:46.260 Do you know how you know?

00:19:48.460 Because it's a jaw-dropping story about a public figure.

00:19:53.300 Jaw-dropping stories about public figures

00:19:55.760 are pretty much never true.

00:19:58.300 The reason it's so interesting

00:20:00.300 is because nobody would act like that.

00:20:04.020 And indeed, he did not.

00:20:05.760 Did he say something that bad people could take out of context?

00:20:08.720 Of course.

00:20:10.740 You know, that's just every day.

00:20:13.500 All right, here's another one.

00:20:14.520 Same test.

00:20:15.880 Jennifer Aniston is accused of doing something online

00:20:18.980 that people say is anti-Semitic.

00:20:21.260 Did it really happen?

00:20:23.940 Is it real?

00:20:25.560 Of course not.

00:20:26.820 Of course not.

00:20:27.940 It's actually somebody accused her of liking

00:20:29.940 the thing that Jamie Foxx did

00:20:32.860 that wasn't interpreted correctly.

00:20:34.500 So, you know, social media buzzed about those.

00:20:38.640 Now, I saw some pushback going by

00:20:42.140 and I would like to agree with you on this.

00:20:44.660 I can't really explain Mel Gibson.

00:20:49.160 You know, except that probably alcohol

00:20:51.760 is part of the answer,

00:20:54.420 but that doesn't change what came out of his mouth.

00:20:57.480 So there are some cases where

00:20:59.660 maybe things are exactly what they look like.

00:21:04.160 Maybe sometimes it's just what you think.

00:21:07.140 But if you bet in that direction,

00:21:09.940 you're going to be wrong a lot.

00:21:12.300 Right?

00:21:12.700 I don't know if it's 90% of the time

00:21:14.680 that the news about public figures is wrong.

00:21:17.060 And by the way,

00:21:18.340 I don't know for 100% sure

00:21:21.000 that the stories about Mel Gibson are correct.

00:21:23.940 I kind of think they are.

00:21:25.060 But I don't know.

00:21:26.960 I don't know.

00:21:28.400 So, just keep in mind,

00:21:31.380 stories about public figures are usually fake.

00:21:34.060 All right, here's a tougher one.

00:21:36.320 There's a biographer of Obama,

00:21:39.720 and this is New York Post is writing about this.

00:21:42.180 So this Obama biographer,

00:21:44.320 I think he had a 2017 book,

00:21:46.460 and he makes the following claims

00:21:48.300 based on his research of Obama.

00:21:51.740 That Obama, people don't realize it,

00:21:54.420 but he's as insecure as Trump.

00:21:58.840 So the Obama biographer,

00:22:02.020 somebody who spent eight hours interviewing him,

00:22:04.220 talked to lots of people,

00:22:05.660 says that Obama is as insecure as Trump.

00:22:09.700 You can now discount everything else

00:22:12.300 that biographer says as ridiculous.

00:22:16.320 What is he, a mind reader?

00:22:17.700 Is there some objective scale

00:22:20.480 where you can compare two people,

00:22:22.860 two people that maybe you don't even know one of them,

00:22:25.740 and you can tell which one's more insecure?

00:22:29.020 How patently ridiculous

00:22:30.900 that he can read Obama's mind.

00:22:34.180 Completely ridiculous.

00:22:36.920 All right.

00:22:38.100 What else?

00:22:39.440 He said that it's clear that Obama

00:22:41.460 doesn't care about rebuilding the Democratic Party

00:22:43.920 as an institution.

00:22:44.860 Really?

00:22:47.020 Because what?

00:22:48.180 He said that?

00:22:49.420 No.

00:22:51.320 He has a mind,

00:22:53.960 and his mind was red?

00:22:55.820 Probably.

00:22:57.060 It's just mind reading.

00:22:59.220 You should not believe anybody

00:23:00.840 who talks like this

00:23:02.040 about another person.

00:23:04.080 You don't know what people are thinking.

00:23:06.520 You don't know what level of anxiety

00:23:08.600 they have about anything,

00:23:09.780 and you don't know how it compares

00:23:11.880 to some other stranger.

00:23:13.160 These are ridiculous things to say.

00:23:16.620 Never talk like this.

00:23:19.440 And then he's got

00:23:20.520 some story about Obama

00:23:23.820 writing a letter to his girlfriend

00:23:25.360 saying he had

00:23:26.660 fantasies about sex with men.

00:23:31.140 Now,

00:23:31.680 let me ask you this.

00:23:35.200 First of all,

00:23:36.080 I don't think that means anything.

00:23:37.440 Imagine if all your secret thoughts

00:23:41.640 were available to the world.

00:23:45.240 How would you look?

00:23:47.600 I mean,

00:23:47.900 just think about it.

00:23:49.160 Suppose people had access

00:23:50.400 to your,

00:23:50.900 like,

00:23:51.260 private,

00:23:52.740 all of your private conversations

00:23:54.560 forever.

00:23:55.740 Private conversations

00:23:56.700 between lovers,

00:23:58.040 ex-lovers.

00:23:58.820 Suppose they had all of that.

00:24:01.160 How would you look?

00:24:03.680 Do you think

00:24:04.340 any of that would be

00:24:05.440 a little surprising

00:24:06.320 to other people?

00:24:08.700 And more importantly,

00:24:10.600 what's wrong

00:24:11.400 with thinking about stuff?

00:24:14.580 I don't care

00:24:15.380 what Obama thought about.

00:24:17.540 Why do we care

00:24:18.300 what he thought about?

00:24:19.980 He had thoughts?

00:24:22.280 Well,

00:24:22.580 first of all,

00:24:23.240 I don't care

00:24:23.720 if he acted on those thoughts.

00:24:25.640 That shouldn't be

00:24:26.440 relevant in any way.

00:24:27.840 But,

00:24:28.360 we're not even talking

00:24:29.340 about what he did.

00:24:30.300 We're only talking about

00:24:31.260 a conversation

00:24:32.400 of something

00:24:32.880 he thought about.

00:24:33.620 Oh my God.

00:24:36.680 Don't be this guy.

00:24:38.900 All right.

00:24:40.420 Jonathan Turley

00:24:41.300 continues to be

00:24:42.840 the most fun

00:24:44.600 and interesting voice.

00:24:46.360 I would say

00:24:47.160 also with

00:24:47.980 Joel Pollack,

00:24:49.000 the two I would

00:24:49.900 listen to the most

00:24:50.800 on all this

00:24:52.240 legal stuff

00:24:53.400 with Trump

00:24:54.300 and the Biden

00:24:56.040 stuff as well.

00:24:57.240 Those are two people

00:24:58.260 you should absolutely

00:24:58.940 be following

00:24:59.500 and reading

00:25:00.200 during the current

00:25:02.760 news cycle

00:25:03.280 especially.

00:25:05.060 All right.

00:25:06.360 So,

00:25:06.780 here's something

00:25:07.220 that Turley says.

00:25:09.320 He says,

00:25:10.420 this case,

00:25:12.180 talking about

00:25:12.800 charges against Trump,

00:25:14.540 which criminally

00:25:15.480 targets the sitting

00:25:16.480 president's

00:25:17.580 leading up opponent,

00:25:19.160 is much more dangerous

00:25:20.460 because it sets up

00:25:21.280 the federal government

00:25:22.100 as the arbiter

00:25:23.020 of truth.

00:25:24.500 This indictment

00:25:25.320 essentially charges

00:25:26.260 Trump with not

00:25:27.060 accepting the,

00:25:27.980 quote,

00:25:28.060 truth.

00:25:29.440 Now,

00:25:29.740 that's a really

00:25:30.900 clean way

00:25:33.020 to express

00:25:34.540 what's going on.

00:25:35.720 There are a lot

00:25:36.180 of windows

00:25:36.920 to look into here,

00:25:38.380 but this one's

00:25:39.180 pretty important.

00:25:41.940 Yeah.

00:25:42.840 We're on the cusp

00:25:44.560 of accepting

00:25:45.940 that your government

00:25:46.860 can tell you

00:25:47.540 what the truth is,

00:25:49.060 and if you say

00:25:49.760 things opposite of that,

00:25:50.900 you might get in

00:25:51.820 trouble,

00:25:52.800 maybe for something

00:25:53.840 related to it,

00:25:55.100 like how people

00:25:55.860 acted because of

00:25:56.820 what you said,

00:25:58.060 you know,

00:25:58.400 so that they can

00:25:59.020 make it look like

00:25:59.920 it's not the speech

00:26:00.800 that was the thing.

00:26:02.100 Oh,

00:26:02.320 it's not what you said.

00:26:03.740 No,

00:26:03.980 no,

00:26:04.100 no,

00:26:04.280 you've got,

00:26:04.740 oh,

00:26:04.940 free speech,

00:26:05.540 of course.

00:26:06.100 But what you said

00:26:06.960 was untrue,

00:26:08.320 and therefore people

00:26:09.520 acted on it,

00:26:10.720 and bad things

00:26:11.640 happened.

00:26:13.100 But we can't

00:26:13.960 really have a

00:26:14.480 civilization

00:26:15.060 on that rule,

00:26:17.320 because we're

00:26:18.040 always acting on

00:26:18.820 bad ideas

00:26:19.600 and bad opinions,

00:26:21.120 and you know,

00:26:21.840 you couldn't

00:26:22.200 really have

00:26:22.700 any kind of

00:26:24.000 a system

00:26:24.400 that worked

00:26:25.240 that way.

00:26:27.400 So that's

00:26:27.940 a good point.

00:26:28.520 I like the way

00:26:28.980 you're saying it.

00:26:29.660 But I did have

00:26:30.400 something I

00:26:31.240 disagreed with.

00:26:33.160 This might be

00:26:33.820 the first time.

00:26:34.720 I disagreed

00:26:35.500 with Jonathan

00:26:36.100 Turley

00:26:36.620 on the following

00:26:38.420 point.

00:26:38.940 He thought it

00:26:39.320 was unwise,

00:26:40.960 and you know,

00:26:41.360 I'm paraphrasing

00:26:42.080 for him,

00:26:42.720 so these are

00:26:43.300 my words.

00:26:44.220 I guess he

00:26:44.800 thought it was

00:26:45.160 unwise for

00:26:45.780 Trump to make

00:26:47.280 his threatening

00:26:48.480 sounding truths,

00:26:52.500 you know,

00:26:52.840 effectively a

00:26:54.280 tweet on truth,

00:26:55.720 and that saying

00:26:57.160 that if you

00:26:57.920 come for me,

00:26:58.640 I'll come for

00:26:59.140 you,

00:26:59.740 and that it

00:27:00.300 wasn't helpful.

00:27:02.700 And do you

00:27:05.420 agree with that?

00:27:06.880 Do you agree

00:27:07.720 that that worked

00:27:09.180 against his

00:27:10.320 legal strategy?

00:27:13.540 Here's where I

00:27:14.400 disagree.

00:27:14.800 I do not

00:27:16.540 believe that

00:27:19.000 Jonathan Turley

00:27:19.820 and I have

00:27:20.440 the same

00:27:20.820 opinion of

00:27:22.200 what Trump's

00:27:22.960 likely strategy

00:27:24.100 is.

00:27:24.980 And remember,

00:27:25.540 we can't

00:27:25.920 read his

00:27:26.220 mind, so

00:27:27.940 here Turley

00:27:29.220 and I are

00:27:29.900 operating both

00:27:31.220 blind.

00:27:32.420 I don't know

00:27:33.000 what Trump's

00:27:33.440 thinking, but I

00:27:34.760 know that Turley

00:27:35.380 doesn't.

00:27:36.460 Agree?

00:27:37.360 Nobody knows

00:27:38.140 what he's

00:27:38.380 thinking.

00:27:39.140 We know what

00:27:39.780 he's doing,

00:27:40.860 but what we

00:27:41.980 watch him doing

00:27:42.780 is threatening

00:27:44.780 the system in

00:27:46.240 a way that

00:27:47.040 your common

00:27:47.600 sense and

00:27:48.300 your history

00:27:48.800 and your sense

00:27:49.540 of right and

00:27:50.000 wrong says

00:27:51.260 should not be

00:27:51.860 happening.

00:27:53.100 But here's

00:27:53.720 where I differ

00:27:54.920 with Turley.

00:27:56.080 I don't think

00:27:57.080 Trump is trying

00:27:58.560 to win his

00:27:59.180 case.

00:28:01.800 Only.

00:28:03.240 Only.

00:28:04.020 So only is

00:28:04.740 the key word.

00:28:06.420 I don't think

00:28:07.220 Trump is trying

00:28:07.820 to win his

00:28:08.600 legal cases

00:28:09.920 only.

00:28:10.920 He's going

00:28:12.900 after the

00:28:13.320 whole system.

00:28:14.940 He's trying

00:28:15.380 to tear down

00:28:15.940 the whole

00:28:16.240 system.

00:28:17.760 And if you're

00:28:18.460 trying to tear

00:28:18.940 down the whole

00:28:19.440 system, this

00:28:20.020 is the way to

00:28:20.520 do it.

00:28:21.660 You should say

00:28:22.720 directly what

00:28:23.500 you're going

00:28:23.820 to do.

00:28:24.800 Yes, this is

00:28:25.740 a witch hunt.

00:28:27.640 If you push

00:28:29.500 this witch hunt,

00:28:30.560 I'm coming

00:28:31.300 for you.

00:28:33.000 That's exactly

00:28:33.840 what his

00:28:34.240 supporters want

00:28:35.040 in a legal,

00:28:36.320 nonviolent

00:28:36.820 way, right?

00:28:37.680 We're all

00:28:38.560 talking nonviolent

00:28:39.400 here.

00:28:39.660 But certainly

00:28:41.060 in a legal

00:28:41.640 sense, certainly

00:28:42.380 in a political

00:28:42.940 sense, you'd

00:28:43.600 want him to

00:28:43.980 come as hard

00:28:44.500 as he could.

00:28:45.500 You'd want

00:28:45.900 him, maybe

00:28:46.340 if you're a

00:28:46.780 supporter, you

00:28:47.340 would say you

00:28:47.840 want him to

00:28:48.200 take over and

00:28:49.020 fire the

00:28:49.700 entire management

00:28:51.440 of everything

00:28:52.180 that's looking

00:28:53.580 rotten at the

00:28:54.220 moment.

00:28:55.520 So I would

00:28:58.180 agree if this

00:28:59.540 were a normal

00:29:00.420 defendant in a

00:29:01.440 normal situation

00:29:02.280 that he should

00:29:03.640 not be attacking

00:29:04.440 the system.

00:29:05.880 He should work

00:29:06.520 within it and

00:29:07.140 try to get his

00:29:07.640 best result by

00:29:08.580 keeping his

00:29:09.500 mouth shut.

00:29:10.460 But this is

00:29:11.120 the furthest

00:29:11.780 you could be

00:29:12.300 from a normal

00:29:12.980 situation.

00:29:14.640 Trump is

00:29:15.160 probably the

00:29:15.800 only person

00:29:16.520 that I would

00:29:18.000 say, yeah,

00:29:18.580 he should attack

00:29:19.200 the whole system.

00:29:20.620 He should go

00:29:21.080 after the judge.

00:29:22.560 He should go

00:29:22.980 even ahead of

00:29:24.460 time.

00:29:25.460 He's the only

00:29:25.980 person I would

00:29:26.460 say this about.

00:29:27.500 But he should

00:29:28.020 go after the 1.00

00:29:28.520 system.

00:29:29.640 Because if he

00:29:30.420 does a good

00:29:31.140 enough job in

00:29:31.960 making the

00:29:32.480 system look as

00:29:34.040 corrupt as it

00:29:34.760 apparently is,

00:29:35.560 then it will

00:29:36.980 be impossible

00:29:37.600 for him to

00:29:38.400 be prosecuted.

00:29:41.400 Because there

00:29:42.300 might be a

00:29:42.880 case that he's

00:29:43.960 broken technical,

00:29:45.420 you know, there

00:29:45.900 might be technical

00:29:46.640 violations.

00:29:48.160 But if the

00:29:49.940 way the law

00:29:50.540 goes is that

00:29:51.660 the law

00:29:52.820 accurately pursues

00:29:54.120 the technical

00:29:54.780 violations, that

00:29:56.460 ends up taking

00:29:57.280 him off the

00:29:57.800 field for the

00:29:58.540 election, nobody's

00:30:00.800 going to be,

00:30:01.220 well, half the

00:30:02.340 country will be

00:30:02.800 happy about it.

00:30:03.720 But his

00:30:04.120 supporters are not

00:30:04.840 going to be

00:30:05.120 happy.

00:30:05.560 And that's

00:30:06.340 not a country

00:30:06.900 you're going to

00:30:07.260 want to live

00:30:07.660 in.

00:30:08.240 It's going to

00:30:08.680 get pretty

00:30:10.020 unhappy.

00:30:11.500 So I think in

00:30:12.900 his specific

00:30:13.840 case, when

00:30:15.580 everybody can

00:30:16.640 see it's a

00:30:17.140 political

00:30:17.540 prosecution, in

00:30:19.120 the context of

00:30:19.960 a political

00:30:20.560 prosecution against

00:30:21.900 a likely number

00:30:23.500 one or two

00:30:24.140 finisher in the

00:30:25.220 end, he should

00:30:27.240 go after the 1.00

00:30:27.740 whole system.

00:30:29.620 So I believe

00:30:30.540 that he's

00:30:30.820 playing it

00:30:31.180 right.

00:30:32.320 Now, I don't

00:30:33.200 predict it's

00:30:34.060 going to go

00:30:34.420 well.

00:30:34.720 You know, who

00:30:36.760 knows?

00:30:37.400 A million

00:30:38.040 things could

00:30:38.580 happen.

00:30:39.380 Some people

00:30:39.900 are already

00:30:40.320 suggesting that

00:30:41.100 Trump should

00:30:41.560 negotiate a

00:30:43.520 pardon for not

00:30:44.400 running.

00:30:46.060 What would you

00:30:47.100 think had

00:30:47.640 happened if

00:30:48.600 Trump, I

00:30:49.780 think Scaramucci

00:30:50.560 was saying

00:30:50.940 this, how,

00:30:52.280 yeah, okay, I

00:30:53.360 see the reaction

00:30:53.980 already.

00:30:54.360 If Trump

00:30:55.640 negotiates his

00:30:56.920 own freedom

00:30:57.680 in return for

00:31:00.160 not running,

00:31:02.940 I can't even

00:31:06.360 explain what

00:31:07.220 that would do

00:31:07.680 to me, like

00:31:09.080 my brain.

00:31:10.200 I don't even

00:31:10.960 know what I'd

00:31:11.440 do about that.

00:31:12.720 But that would

00:31:13.260 be the worst

00:31:13.740 case scenario.

00:31:14.800 In my opinion,

00:31:15.620 that's the worst

00:31:16.380 case scenario.

00:31:17.620 Because if Trump

00:31:18.860 rolls over, we're

00:31:21.440 lost.

00:31:21.880 It just means

00:31:23.280 everybody will

00:31:23.900 roll over.

00:31:25.040 You like to

00:31:25.820 think that

00:31:26.240 there's somebody

00:31:26.880 who's going to

00:31:27.500 take it to the

00:31:28.140 mat.

00:31:28.900 And it feels

00:31:29.520 like it's him.

00:31:31.040 It feels like

00:31:31.960 Trump is just

00:31:33.240 going to take it

00:31:33.880 as far as you

00:31:34.720 need to take it.

00:31:35.520 And the Democrats

00:31:37.700 need to know that

00:31:39.760 he's not going to

00:31:40.520 stop because he

00:31:41.580 might get killed.

00:31:43.740 Right?

00:31:44.600 I mean, either

00:31:45.480 politically or

00:31:46.300 financially or even

00:31:47.320 physically.

00:31:49.060 If Trump puts up

00:31:51.240 enough of a scare,

00:31:52.520 which is his

00:31:53.020 specialty, right?

00:31:54.280 His specialty is

00:31:55.140 scaring the other

00:31:55.820 side.

00:31:56.400 You don't know

00:31:56.920 what I'll do.

00:31:57.520 I'm unpredictable.

00:31:58.640 And he's definitely

00:31:59.360 playing out that

00:32:00.120 strategy.

00:32:01.040 And I think, well,

00:32:02.420 he's creating a

00:32:03.480 situation where

00:32:04.240 finding him guilty

00:32:05.280 even if there is

00:32:06.940 a technical guilt

00:32:07.960 is dangerous.

00:32:10.340 And I think that's

00:32:11.340 actually the healthy

00:32:12.080 situation.

00:32:13.480 It should look

00:32:14.260 dangerous.

00:32:16.020 Would you agree?

00:32:18.020 The safest

00:32:19.020 situation for the

00:32:20.780 country is if

00:32:22.020 everybody's transparent

00:32:23.220 about where their

00:32:24.240 red line is.

00:32:26.140 Right?

00:32:26.720 If you're gray area,

00:32:28.520 that's where you

00:32:28.980 get trouble.

00:32:29.500 I think I can push

00:32:30.320 him a little here.

00:32:31.480 Well, okay, you

00:32:32.380 got away with it.

00:32:32.920 I think I'll push

00:32:33.380 him a little bit.

00:32:34.380 There's got to be

00:32:35.100 a limit.

00:32:36.720 And both sides

00:32:37.460 need to know where

00:32:38.100 the other's limit

00:32:38.760 is.

00:32:39.560 So communicating

00:32:40.360 where the limit

00:32:41.180 is is just good

00:32:43.440 government, I think.

00:32:44.500 And I think Trump's

00:32:45.660 doing it in a way

00:32:47.260 that no lawyer would

00:32:48.280 advise.

00:32:49.280 But it might be

00:32:50.400 good for the

00:32:50.800 system.

00:32:53.420 All right, let's

00:32:54.160 see if you can

00:32:54.840 recognize this

00:32:55.800 pattern of

00:32:56.800 deceit.

00:32:59.600 Let's call this a

00:33:00.560 disinformation play.

00:33:01.760 And this is the

00:33:04.720 Democrat processes

00:33:06.340 are now becoming

00:33:07.060 clear.

00:33:08.180 You know, I keep

00:33:08.740 saying that you can

00:33:09.480 see the machinery

00:33:10.220 now.

00:33:11.620 So see if this

00:33:12.600 sounds familiar.

00:33:14.500 It's a combination

00:33:15.300 of these plays.

00:33:17.120 The Russian

00:33:17.880 disinformation play

00:33:18.980 that you saw with

00:33:19.580 the laptop.

00:33:20.980 The cat on the

00:33:22.200 roof play where

00:33:23.840 there's bad news,

00:33:25.180 but instead of just

00:33:26.100 admitting it, they

00:33:27.080 just trickle it out.

00:33:27.920 Well, the cat's in

00:33:29.640 the tree.

00:33:30.400 You can't get it

00:33:30.980 out.

00:33:31.580 Well, it's on the

00:33:32.440 roof, and then

00:33:33.380 later it dies getting

00:33:34.420 off the roof.

00:33:35.640 So it's the slow

00:33:37.140 cat on the roof.

00:33:38.580 And then what

00:33:39.740 about the play of

00:33:40.700 getting the media

00:33:41.500 to cover for you?

00:33:43.740 Like the lying

00:33:45.140 media, the ones

00:33:45.920 that you know are

00:33:46.340 the designated

00:33:46.840 liars.

00:33:48.260 All right?

00:33:50.360 And then if you

00:33:51.240 were going to get

00:33:51.640 the media to lie

00:33:52.460 for you, would you

00:33:53.160 get the usual

00:33:53.820 suspects?

00:33:55.040 You'd get the

00:33:55.560 Washington Post.

00:33:56.380 You'd get

00:33:57.740 Politico, right?

00:33:59.200 If you want to

00:33:59.620 cover a Democrat

00:34:00.780 lie, you'd ask

00:34:01.540 them.

00:34:02.800 All right.

00:34:03.360 So we know the

00:34:04.400 play is, so let's

00:34:05.920 see if it got

00:34:06.400 applied here.

00:34:07.440 We just learned

00:34:08.240 that Devin

00:34:08.720 Archer has

00:34:09.320 confirmed that a

00:34:11.000 dinner that

00:34:11.820 Hunter was at,

00:34:12.860 Hunter Biden,

00:34:14.240 with his business

00:34:15.880 associates, was in

00:34:17.740 fact attended by

00:34:19.920 Joe Biden.

00:34:23.600 They say it

00:34:25.500 was Russian

00:34:26.040 disinformation.

00:34:27.500 They did.

00:34:28.900 They said it was

00:34:29.500 Russian disinformation.

00:34:31.720 Sound familiar?

00:34:32.960 Now you can start

00:34:33.820 to recognize, you

00:34:35.400 start to recognize

00:34:35.940 the play.

00:34:36.980 Russia collusion,

00:34:38.160 laptop.

00:34:39.780 Joe Biden wasn't

00:34:40.700 at this dinner with

00:34:41.600 those business

00:34:42.200 partners.

00:34:42.740 No, that's

00:34:43.220 Russian disinformation.

00:34:44.720 I think that

00:34:45.180 actually came from

00:34:45.800 one of the

00:34:46.060 White House

00:34:46.360 staff.

00:34:47.380 And then once

00:34:49.320 you got that

00:34:49.800 going, and so

00:34:52.900 the current news,

00:34:54.000 this is also

00:34:55.000 from Turley,

00:34:57.260 you really have

00:34:57.840 to be reading

00:34:58.320 Turley.

00:34:59.060 You're going to

00:34:59.680 miss everything if

00:35:00.380 you're not reading

00:35:00.860 him in these

00:35:01.800 coming weeks.

00:35:04.280 That we know

00:35:05.120 that Joe Biden

00:35:05.780 not only attended,

00:35:07.900 but that he

00:35:08.460 attended in a

00:35:09.180 meaningful way.

00:35:09.960 In other words,

00:35:11.140 he sat there,

00:35:12.200 he met everybody,

00:35:13.460 he talked with

00:35:14.460 everybody.

00:35:14.740 It was the

00:35:15.180 actual dinner.

00:35:15.800 But then came

00:35:17.700 the, so after

00:35:18.580 the Russian

00:35:18.980 disinformation

00:35:19.620 play, as

00:35:21.340 things trickled

00:35:22.080 out, they did

00:35:23.360 the cat on the

00:35:23.980 roof.

00:35:25.360 And they said,

00:35:26.440 oh, oh, oh,

00:35:27.260 we said he

00:35:27.820 didn't attend

00:35:28.340 the dinner.

00:35:29.920 We didn't say

00:35:30.740 he didn't say

00:35:31.180 hi.

00:35:32.200 Yeah, yeah,

00:35:32.560 yeah, he did

00:35:32.980 a drive-by.

00:35:34.420 He said hi to,

00:35:36.040 I don't know,

00:35:36.440 maybe one or two

00:35:37.080 people.

00:35:38.180 And then he

00:35:38.720 just left.

00:35:40.720 And then it

00:35:41.160 was, well, he

00:35:42.160 did more than

00:35:42.580 say hi.

00:35:43.700 He did, there

00:35:45.020 was a little bit

00:35:45.620 of interaction.

00:35:46.700 Yes.

00:35:47.780 And then it

00:35:48.260 was, okay, he

00:35:49.380 did sit down.

00:35:50.960 He sat down

00:35:51.600 for a little

00:35:51.960 while.

00:35:53.220 And then it

00:35:53.780 turned into,

00:35:54.520 yeah, he came

00:35:55.160 there intentionally

00:35:56.520 knowing everybody

00:35:57.540 who was there,

00:35:58.880 sat for dinner.

00:35:59.940 It was exactly

00:36:00.900 what you thought

00:36:01.460 it was.

00:36:03.400 And then did

00:36:04.700 they have the

00:36:05.120 usual suspects

00:36:06.020 covering?

00:36:06.700 Yes, Politico

00:36:07.500 and Washington

00:36:08.160 Post.

00:36:09.260 So now you

00:36:09.860 see the

00:36:10.220 machinery.

00:36:12.560 Once you

00:36:13.180 recognize the

00:36:14.380 machinery,

00:36:14.800 you can see

00:36:16.280 it.

00:36:17.720 Because, and

00:36:19.080 probably the

00:36:19.820 best tell,

00:36:20.640 somebody said

00:36:21.240 this last

00:36:22.240 night on

00:36:22.660 the live

00:36:22.980 stream,

00:36:24.080 that one

00:36:24.900 of the most

00:36:25.240 useful things

00:36:26.020 I've taught

00:36:26.420 you is

00:36:27.160 designated

00:36:27.820 liars.

00:36:30.480 Does

00:36:30.960 everybody know

00:36:31.740 who the

00:36:32.000 designated

00:36:32.400 liars are?

00:36:34.020 If the

00:36:34.640 Democrats bring 0.98

00:36:35.760 out, you

00:36:37.340 know, Schiff,

00:36:38.780 Swalwell,

00:36:39.900 Clapper,

00:36:40.360 and Brennan,

00:36:42.840 that's an

00:36:43.360 op.

00:36:45.280 That's not

00:36:45.940 news, that's

00:36:47.100 an op.

00:36:47.980 And now

00:36:48.400 Goldman,

00:36:50.920 Goldman

00:36:51.340 seems to

00:36:51.880 have joined

00:36:52.580 that.

00:36:54.320 Those are

00:36:54.960 the ones who

00:36:55.760 apparently will

00:36:56.520 say anything.

00:36:58.120 So when

00:36:58.640 they know

00:36:59.400 they've got a

00:36:59.940 losing hand,

00:37:00.920 in other words

00:37:01.340 the facts are

00:37:01.980 against them,

00:37:03.160 they bring out

00:37:03.780 the designated

00:37:04.320 liars.

00:37:05.520 But the media

00:37:06.460 is also

00:37:06.920 designated liars.

00:37:07.980 You've got

00:37:09.240 your Washington

00:37:09.800 Post opinion

00:37:10.500 people, and

00:37:11.760 your Politico

00:37:13.580 opinion people.

00:37:14.840 So there's

00:37:15.580 some entities

00:37:16.180 that once you

00:37:16.840 see it, you

00:37:18.040 can't unsee

00:37:18.680 it.

00:37:19.800 It's like, oh,

00:37:20.880 designated liars.

00:37:22.100 I got it.

00:37:22.820 This is not

00:37:23.320 real.

00:37:25.060 It's very

00:37:26.000 consistent.

00:37:27.840 Once the

00:37:28.380 designated liars

00:37:29.420 are turned

00:37:29.780 down.

00:37:30.560 What about

00:37:31.580 when you see

00:37:32.260 Bernstein come

00:37:33.680 on CNN to

00:37:34.420 say something's

00:37:35.040 worse than

00:37:35.500 Watergate?

00:37:36.580 What is the

00:37:37.140 signal?

00:37:37.980 The signal

00:37:38.640 is that

00:37:39.440 it's made

00:37:39.880 up.

00:37:40.920 That whatever

00:37:41.300 he's mad at

00:37:41.980 that's worse

00:37:42.360 than Watergate

00:37:42.860 probably didn't

00:37:43.420 even happen.

00:37:44.840 Probably didn't

00:37:45.380 even happen.

00:37:48.180 All right.

00:37:48.800 So learning

00:37:50.480 to recognize

00:37:51.060 the pattern.

00:37:53.220 Vivek said,

00:37:55.620 and this is an

00:37:56.520 NBC News

00:37:57.300 report, and

00:37:59.360 I'm just going

00:37:59.960 to read it

00:38:00.360 because the

00:38:00.680 exact wording

00:38:01.500 really matters.

00:38:03.820 This is really

00:38:04.700 interesting.

00:38:05.800 I promise you

00:38:06.540 this is interesting.

00:38:07.280 this is Vivek

00:38:08.380 Ramaswamy.

00:38:10.040 According to

00:38:10.680 NBC News, he

00:38:12.020 implied Saturday

00:38:12.840 that American

00:38:13.460 involvement in

00:38:14.240 the war in

00:38:14.680 Ukraine may

00:38:16.020 be because of

00:38:17.000 President Joe

00:38:17.860 Biden's son,

00:38:18.800 Hunter Biden.

00:38:21.580 Whoa.

00:38:24.100 Whoa.

00:38:26.440 And he said,

00:38:27.500 quote, the

00:38:29.900 purpose of the

00:38:30.420 U.S.

00:38:30.720 military is to

00:38:31.520 advance American

00:38:32.340 interests to

00:38:32.960 protect the

00:38:33.380 homeland, not to

00:38:34.620 aimlessly fight

00:38:35.640 some random

00:38:36.300 war that's

00:38:36.900 arguably a

00:38:38.740 repayment for

00:38:40.280 a private

00:38:40.980 bribe that a

00:38:42.820 family member of

00:38:43.860 the United States

00:38:44.840 received, $5

00:38:46.640 million from

00:38:47.600 Burisma, said

00:38:50.140 Ramaswamy,

00:38:50.960 speaking in

00:38:51.920 Iowa.

00:38:54.400 Quote, he

00:38:55.500 goes on,

00:38:56.080 was the payment

00:38:57.120 to Hunter Biden

00:38:57.880 corrupt?

00:38:59.180 Absolutely it

00:39:00.060 was.

00:39:00.920 Do I think that

00:39:01.640 it has some

00:39:02.260 relationship toward

00:39:03.300 our posture toward

00:39:04.280 Ukraine?

00:39:05.220 I think it's

00:39:06.360 likely that it

00:39:07.240 does, Ramaswamy

00:39:09.240 said.

00:39:12.260 Have I mentioned

00:39:13.420 that he's good

00:39:14.100 at making news?

00:39:16.000 He is the

00:39:16.980 best, the

00:39:18.500 best, the

00:39:20.300 best

00:39:20.880 campaigner

00:39:24.160 you've ever

00:39:25.300 seen.

00:39:25.900 Now, Trump is a

00:39:26.700 special case,

00:39:27.400 right?

00:39:27.940 Because Trump

00:39:28.580 came on the

00:39:29.220 scene already

00:39:29.720 famous.

00:39:30.740 But to do

00:39:31.720 what Ramaswamy

00:39:32.600 is doing,

00:39:33.500 without starting

00:39:34.260 as being

00:39:34.700 famous, I

00:39:35.320 mean, he

00:39:35.520 had some

00:39:35.820 exposure from

00:39:36.500 his book.

00:39:37.660 But it's

00:39:39.260 just incredible

00:39:40.000 how much he's

00:39:41.480 hitting, I

00:39:42.320 mean, he's

00:39:42.860 hitting like

00:39:43.420 line drive

00:39:44.560 triples every

00:39:46.140 day.

00:39:47.180 It's like,

00:39:48.040 boom, triple,

00:39:49.080 boom, triple.

00:39:51.580 So let me talk

00:39:52.540 about this for a

00:39:53.120 minute.

00:39:54.580 The way he

00:39:55.480 states it is

00:39:56.380 proper, which

00:39:58.040 is that there's

00:39:58.860 some doubt.

00:40:01.100 Do you

00:40:01.520 believe, as a

00:40:02.360 citizen, do

00:40:03.660 you believe

00:40:04.100 that the

00:40:04.600 war in

00:40:05.040 Ukraine and

00:40:06.040 our support

00:40:06.620 for it would

00:40:07.880 look exactly

00:40:08.660 the same if

00:40:10.040 Hunter Biden

00:40:11.280 had never done

00:40:12.100 his work in

00:40:12.720 Ukraine?

00:40:13.660 Does anybody

00:40:14.300 think it would

00:40:14.840 look just the

00:40:15.500 same?

00:40:17.000 I don't think

00:40:17.840 we do.

00:40:18.640 Yeah.

00:40:19.220 All new.

00:40:20.180 Now, you know,

00:40:21.000 this is clearly a

00:40:22.440 bubble audience.

00:40:24.640 You're all in a,

00:40:25.740 pretty much all of you

00:40:26.720 are in the same

00:40:27.400 bubble.

00:40:27.660 So keep in mind

00:40:29.660 that you're in a

00:40:30.180 bubble.

00:40:31.200 Don't lose sight of

00:40:31.980 the fact that there

00:40:33.140 may be another

00:40:33.780 bubble with all

00:40:34.880 different information

00:40:35.640 here.

00:40:36.540 But here's the

00:40:37.740 proper way to look

00:40:38.500 at the Hunter

00:40:39.380 Biden, you know,

00:40:42.380 Joe Biden

00:40:43.260 connection and

00:40:44.380 what's happening in

00:40:45.240 Ukraine.

00:40:45.940 Here's the problem.

00:40:47.900 You don't know

00:40:49.440 if that war was

00:40:51.540 influenced by their

00:40:52.900 financial dealings.

00:40:55.200 And you can't

00:40:56.400 know.

00:40:57.660 You can't know.

00:40:58.900 In other words,

00:40:59.560 there's no way to

00:41:00.400 know because you'd

00:41:02.520 have to read minds

00:41:03.500 and speculate to

00:41:05.240 form a causal

00:41:06.300 connection.

00:41:07.560 And we can't read

00:41:08.340 minds and the

00:41:09.420 speculation would be

00:41:10.320 unfair, you know,

00:41:11.880 because Hunter

00:41:12.860 Biden is innocent

00:41:13.580 until proven guilty.

00:41:15.200 Right?

00:41:16.080 Innocent until

00:41:16.720 proven guilty.

00:41:17.840 And by the way,

00:41:19.440 I'm not sure he

00:41:20.220 committed any crimes.

00:41:23.500 After listening to

00:41:24.680 Devin Archer, I

00:41:26.100 came away thinking,

00:41:27.540 you know, it

00:41:28.020 sounds like a

00:41:29.040 crime, but I

00:41:30.660 don't know exactly

00:41:31.420 what laws were

00:41:32.260 violated.

00:41:32.900 And you say,

00:41:33.340 well, it's

00:41:33.780 Farrah, you know,

00:41:34.860 the Foreign Agent

00:41:35.960 Registration Act.

00:41:37.020 He should have been

00:41:37.480 registered.

00:41:38.420 And then I say,

00:41:39.700 are you sure?

00:41:41.880 Are you a lawyer in

00:41:43.440 that field?

00:41:44.640 Are you sure that

00:41:45.680 the way they did it

00:41:46.860 didn't make it okay?

00:41:48.560 Because they knew

00:41:49.440 this law.

00:41:50.900 These were lawyers,

00:41:52.360 very experienced in,

00:41:53.900 you know, this area.

00:41:55.120 They weren't

00:41:55.780 beginners.

00:41:57.000 They probably set it

00:41:58.560 up in such a way

00:41:59.700 that it's technically

00:42:01.420 legal or legal-ish or

00:42:03.520 close to legal,

00:42:04.900 something.

00:42:05.940 So I'm not even sure

00:42:07.280 there's a crime there.

00:42:08.920 But here's what I am

00:42:10.020 sure of.

00:42:11.200 I can't know and I

00:42:13.000 don't know if any of

00:42:14.880 Hunter's actions

00:42:15.640 affected our support

00:42:18.220 for the Ukraine war.

00:42:19.180 or even if we

00:42:22.260 would have a war.

00:42:23.320 I don't even know

00:42:23.920 if the war would

00:42:24.420 exist, except for

00:42:27.060 that connection.

00:42:28.100 But I also don't

00:42:29.240 have a direct

00:42:30.140 causal link.

00:42:31.320 Like, I can't tell

00:42:32.180 you, well, this

00:42:32.840 phone call, that

00:42:33.440 conversation, I

00:42:34.840 don't see it.

00:42:36.840 But you cannot

00:42:38.100 have, you cannot

00:42:39.840 have a president

00:42:40.740 where you're not

00:42:42.160 sure which side

00:42:43.060 he's on.

00:42:43.980 And you're

00:42:44.440 legitimately not

00:42:45.400 sure.

00:42:46.320 And when I say

00:42:46.920 what side, I mean

00:42:47.820 maybe his own

00:42:48.540 financial dealings.

00:42:52.040 That is 100%

00:42:54.780 unacceptable.

00:42:56.160 Now, I'm

00:42:56.920 willing to accept

00:42:59.180 that when people

00:43:00.020 go into public

00:43:00.760 office, they do

00:43:02.760 well, then they

00:43:03.480 retire, that there

00:43:05.220 are a variety of

00:43:06.040 ways they can

00:43:06.680 monetize that.

00:43:08.320 And I think,

00:43:09.280 well, that's not

00:43:10.400 ideal.

00:43:11.820 But probably it's

00:43:12.900 okay.

00:43:13.560 You know, most of

00:43:14.120 the time it's

00:43:14.540 probably not the

00:43:15.480 worst thing.

00:43:16.360 But if you're a

00:43:17.060 sitting president

00:43:17.900 and the public

00:43:20.100 really can't tell

00:43:21.100 if you're doing a

00:43:22.660 dealing for

00:43:23.140 yourself or for

00:43:23.980 the country,

00:43:24.940 that's unacceptable.

00:43:26.760 And that has

00:43:27.180 nothing to do with

00:43:27.880 Democrat or

00:43:28.460 Republican.

00:43:31.060 Believe me, if

00:43:32.660 Don Jr. had been

00:43:34.080 making deals with

00:43:35.000 Ukraine and then

00:43:36.640 Donald Trump took

00:43:38.760 us to war or

00:43:39.780 caused a war to

00:43:40.940 happen, do you

00:43:42.180 think I'd be,

00:43:43.000 oh, that's just

00:43:44.320 their own business?

00:43:45.140 Oh, Donald

00:43:46.780 Trump, he's not

00:43:47.360 involved in his

00:43:48.380 son's dealings.

00:43:49.660 Do you think I'd

00:43:50.220 be saying that?

00:43:51.580 God, I hope not.

00:43:53.300 Like, I hope not.

00:43:54.920 I really, really

00:43:55.980 hope this would

00:43:57.120 look exactly the

00:43:58.160 same to me if

00:44:00.460 it were reversed.

00:44:01.840 And it's not

00:44:02.540 reversed.

00:44:04.360 So, to me,

00:44:06.480 Vivek once again

00:44:07.880 found the most

00:44:09.160 important question

00:44:10.060 for the 2024

00:44:12.840 election.

00:44:15.220 You think, oh, I

00:44:16.520 think the basic

00:44:17.180 question is, you

00:44:18.020 know, Biden's

00:44:19.780 competence or,

00:44:21.280 you know, I

00:44:22.820 don't know,

00:44:23.260 inflation or

00:44:24.340 something.

00:44:25.120 But there's

00:44:25.760 nothing more

00:44:26.220 important than

00:44:26.640 this.

00:44:28.260 It's a war.

00:44:31.180 It's like a

00:44:31.920 whole freaking

00:44:32.300 war.

00:44:33.620 If we're not

00:44:34.440 even sure that

00:44:35.240 our commander-in-chief

00:44:36.180 is on the same

00:44:36.980 side as the

00:44:37.880 public, as

00:44:39.340 opposed to

00:44:39.860 doing some

00:44:40.320 self-dealing,

00:44:42.060 you can't live

00:44:42.980 with that

00:44:43.280 situation.

00:44:44.400 That has

00:44:44.760 nothing to do

00:44:45.300 with politics.

00:44:46.580 That's literally

00:44:47.260 a military

00:44:47.900 situation.

00:44:50.760 So, the

00:44:51.360 military decision

00:44:52.280 is, you've

00:44:53.520 got to have

00:44:53.900 leaders that

00:44:54.520 you can trust

00:44:55.120 are on your

00:44:55.540 side.

00:44:56.260 That's just

00:44:56.680 minimum.

00:44:58.100 Minimum

00:44:58.580 requirement is

00:44:59.520 you have to

00:44:59.800 know they're

00:45:00.120 on your side.

00:45:01.540 We don't

00:45:01.880 even know

00:45:02.200 that.

00:45:05.020 All right.

00:45:09.340 There's

00:45:10.480 some reporting

00:45:11.860 from, I

00:45:12.880 heard,

00:45:13.340 Kayleigh

00:45:13.580 McEnany,

00:45:14.560 and this

00:45:15.200 will be

00:45:15.380 another test

00:45:16.000 of your

00:45:16.300 media savvy.

00:45:18.060 Here's yet

00:45:18.460 another test.

00:45:19.460 This will

00:45:19.780 be a hard

00:45:20.140 one.

00:45:21.280 But I

00:45:21.800 have given

00:45:22.300 you the

00:45:22.720 rules to

00:45:23.260 do this

00:45:23.580 correctly.

00:45:24.640 So, there's

00:45:25.200 a rule you

00:45:26.140 can follow

00:45:26.620 that will get

00:45:27.080 you the

00:45:27.300 right answer.

00:45:29.360 Kayleigh

00:45:29.920 McEnany

00:45:30.360 says that

00:45:31.100 Biden

00:45:32.240 privately

00:45:32.780 told aides

00:45:33.500 that Trump

00:45:34.260 should be

00:45:34.660 prosecuted for

00:45:35.520 January 6th and

00:45:36.440 that he wanted

00:45:36.960 Merrick Garland to

00:45:37.880 take decisive

00:45:38.500 action.

00:45:39.580 Now, people

00:45:40.180 would be

00:45:40.560 bothered by

00:45:41.080 this because

00:45:41.840 it would

00:45:42.120 show that

00:45:42.580 Biden, they

00:45:44.440 would interpret

00:45:45.020 this as a

00:45:46.040 political act,

00:45:47.820 you know, go

00:45:48.180 get my

00:45:48.600 opponent.

00:45:51.680 Defenders

00:45:52.200 might interpret

00:45:53.020 it as, well,

00:45:54.020 he just wants

00:45:54.500 the law to be

00:45:55.120 followed because

00:45:56.140 this dangerous

00:45:58.260 insurgent must

00:45:59.660 be stopped.

00:46:01.000 So, but

00:46:02.640 let me ask

00:46:03.280 you this,

00:46:04.620 and apparently

00:46:05.960 this is buried

00:46:06.700 in a New York

00:46:07.340 Times story that

00:46:08.200 this conversation

00:46:08.920 happened.

00:46:12.820 Who was the

00:46:13.540 source?

00:46:15.260 Who was the

00:46:16.000 source for this

00:46:16.640 story?

00:46:17.460 It was the

00:46:17.860 New York

00:46:18.080 Times, but

00:46:18.960 who was the

00:46:20.500 person?

00:46:21.760 What's the name

00:46:22.460 of the source?

00:46:24.880 Did they, oh,

00:46:25.520 they didn't name

00:46:25.940 a source.

00:46:27.200 What do you

00:46:27.800 know about

00:46:28.240 anonymous sources

00:46:29.420 telling you

00:46:31.160 something that

00:46:31.900 happened behind

00:46:32.660 closed doors?

00:46:34.480 They're never

00:46:35.080 true.

00:46:36.960 You could just

00:46:37.780 discount it as

00:46:38.720 like, act like

00:46:39.700 you didn't even

00:46:40.140 hear it.

00:46:41.360 Pretend it

00:46:41.940 never even

00:46:42.360 happened, like

00:46:43.000 there was no

00:46:43.440 news story about

00:46:44.240 it at all.

00:46:45.800 Now, it's

00:46:47.400 important that I

00:46:48.120 do it on this

00:46:48.760 story because

00:46:50.220 most of my

00:46:51.140 audience is, you

00:46:51.860 know, leaning

00:46:52.220 right, and this

00:46:54.440 is just an

00:46:55.060 example that it

00:46:55.700 happens both

00:46:56.300 ways.

00:46:57.260 Now, I'm not

00:46:57.940 saying this is

00:46:58.480 not true.

00:47:00.040 I'm saying that

00:47:01.020 you should give

00:47:01.660 it zero

00:47:02.060 credibility.

00:47:03.800 In other

00:47:04.120 words, you

00:47:04.460 can't tell

00:47:05.100 anything about

00:47:06.020 it based on

00:47:07.260 an anonymous

00:47:07.800 source in a

00:47:08.540 political context.

00:47:09.940 It means

00:47:10.440 nothing.

00:47:11.960 Nothing.

00:47:14.700 So, I hope

00:47:15.840 you all got

00:47:16.180 that one right.

00:47:17.200 How many of

00:47:18.120 you immediately

00:47:19.020 noticed that

00:47:20.600 this source was

00:47:21.300 anonymous before

00:47:23.100 I told you?

00:47:26.440 Did you see

00:47:27.220 it right away?

00:47:27.680 Because that's

00:47:28.540 what you should

00:47:28.900 look for right

00:47:29.640 away, anonymous

00:47:30.800 source.

00:47:31.700 Yeah, a bunch

00:47:32.100 of you got it

00:47:32.560 right away.

00:47:35.160 All right, there's

00:47:35.920 a story about an

00:47:37.500 anti-racism

00:47:38.740 instructor who

00:47:40.060 was so mean to

00:47:42.820 a white guy, I

00:47:44.420 guess at a

00:47:45.020 school, Toronto

00:47:46.780 principal, that

00:47:48.140 the white guy

00:47:48.700 killed himself

00:47:49.520 after being

00:47:51.080 mocked by the

00:47:52.120 DEI instructor

00:47:54.160 as being a

00:47:55.760 white supremacist

00:47:56.660 and a good

00:47:57.200 example of

00:47:57.660 of what white

00:47:58.220 supremacy looks

00:47:59.620 like.

00:48:02.300 What do you

00:48:02.900 think of that

00:48:03.240 story?

00:48:05.360 Does that

00:48:05.960 sound like a

00:48:06.440 real story?

00:48:08.380 Or does it

00:48:09.280 sound too

00:48:12.740 on the nose?

00:48:15.000 A little too

00:48:15.740 on the nose?

00:48:17.800 Yeah?

00:48:19.380 That the DEI

00:48:20.600 instructor caused

00:48:22.740 a white guy to

00:48:23.520 kill himself?

00:48:24.100 Now, I don't

00:48:27.660 know the real

00:48:28.780 story, but

00:48:29.600 wouldn't you

00:48:30.100 have to be a

00:48:30.960 mind reader to

00:48:31.820 know that that

00:48:32.380 was the cause

00:48:33.020 of the suicide?

00:48:33.540 I mean, obviously

00:48:35.540 it didn't make

00:48:36.000 him happy, it

00:48:36.880 didn't help him

00:48:37.420 any, and I

00:48:38.400 could easily

00:48:38.860 believe it did.

00:48:39.960 I could easily

00:48:40.600 believe it's

00:48:41.240 connected.

00:48:42.180 But we don't

00:48:43.500 know that.

00:48:44.080 by the time

00:48:47.020 somebody kills

00:48:47.700 himself, I

00:48:49.840 mean, that's a

00:48:50.200 pretty radical

00:48:50.840 act.

00:48:52.440 So don't you

00:48:53.060 think that, don't

00:48:55.440 you think there

00:48:55.920 might have been

00:48:56.300 more going on in

00:48:57.200 his life than

00:48:57.740 that?

00:48:59.040 Yeah, you can

00:48:59.840 imagine it's the

00:49:00.640 last straw, but

00:49:02.720 can you imagine

00:49:03.800 that there would

00:49:04.420 have been no

00:49:04.920 other last straw

00:49:05.900 if he was that

00:49:07.840 close?

00:49:08.280 And I get that

00:49:09.220 that's a big

00:49:09.720 deal, being

00:49:10.760 painted as a

00:49:11.700 white supremacist

00:49:12.500 by your DEI

00:49:13.380 instructor.

00:49:14.280 That's kind of

00:49:15.100 a bad day at

00:49:15.800 work, but the

00:49:20.060 exact same thing

00:49:20.900 happened to me.

00:49:23.740 I literally got

00:49:25.180 branded a racist

00:49:26.000 by the entire

00:49:26.860 United States.

00:49:29.280 Not once did I

00:49:30.580 consider suicide,

00:49:32.200 because other

00:49:34.120 things were fine.

00:49:35.880 Not once.

00:49:36.740 I literally

00:49:38.700 will go through

00:49:39.340 the rest of my

00:49:40.080 life knowing

00:49:41.640 that in any

00:49:42.300 public setting,

00:49:43.620 at least, you

00:49:44.280 know, 20 to

00:49:44.860 30 percent of

00:49:45.500 the public will

00:49:46.200 believe that I'm

00:49:46.980 a racist.

00:49:49.520 It doesn't make

00:49:50.340 me even a little

00:49:50.980 bit suicidal.

00:49:53.780 And to me, it's

00:49:54.580 just stupid, and 0.90

00:49:55.900 it's kind of funny.

00:49:57.400 Like, I literally,

00:49:58.540 when I'm alone, I

00:49:59.160 laugh at it

00:49:59.680 sometimes.

00:50:00.400 I think it's

00:50:00.940 hilarious that I'm

00:50:02.040 a disgraced

00:50:02.860 cartoonist.

00:50:03.720 And honestly, it's

00:50:04.460 the way I wanted

00:50:05.040 to go out.

00:50:05.940 I wanted to go

00:50:06.600 out and I

00:50:06.720 as a disgraced

00:50:07.500 cartoonist.

00:50:08.100 I just didn't

00:50:08.520 think it would

00:50:08.840 happen that way

00:50:09.460 or that quickly.

00:50:12.580 I don't know.

00:50:13.320 I think this story

00:50:14.060 is a little suspect.

00:50:15.700 You could

00:50:16.300 definitely see the

00:50:17.020 connection between

00:50:17.780 the DEI instructor

00:50:19.140 and the death,

00:50:20.500 but you'd have to

00:50:21.960 accept a lot

00:50:22.940 that's not in

00:50:24.900 evidence, that

00:50:26.120 that was the

00:50:27.100 last straw.

00:50:28.520 Sometimes there's

00:50:29.380 just coincidences.

00:50:31.540 But it didn't

00:50:32.520 help.

00:50:33.240 Certainly didn't

00:50:33.800 help any.

00:50:34.200 All right.

00:50:38.020 Rob Henderson

00:50:38.900 in the Rob

00:50:39.680 Henderson newsletter,

00:50:40.660 and by the way,

00:50:41.120 Rob Henderson's a

00:50:41.920 good follow also

00:50:42.880 for a lot of

00:50:44.320 the psychological

00:50:45.160 studies and

00:50:47.680 stuff.

00:50:49.480 Rob Henderson,

00:50:50.540 so just look for

00:50:51.180 him, on Twitter,

00:50:53.340 which is now

00:50:54.120 called X.

00:50:56.560 And he said

00:50:57.340 there's a, in

00:50:58.640 one of his

00:50:59.180 newsletter pieces,

00:51:00.160 he said there's a

00:51:00.800 declining rate of

00:51:02.600 female happiness.

00:51:04.360 So women used 1.00

00:51:05.220 to report having

00:51:06.020 a greater

00:51:06.980 well-being,

00:51:08.080 feeling of

00:51:08.480 well-being than

00:51:08.980 men, but that's 0.99

00:51:09.880 reversed.

00:51:10.900 And now men are 0.76

00:51:11.800 happier than

00:51:12.420 women, at least 0.99

00:51:14.180 in reporting

00:51:15.000 their well-being.

00:51:17.680 What do you

00:51:18.320 think of that?

00:51:19.420 Number one,

00:51:20.740 do you believe

00:51:21.680 that you could

00:51:23.180 poll such a 0.99

00:51:24.060 thing?

00:51:24.980 Do you think

00:51:25.740 that that could

00:51:26.240 be measured?

00:51:26.780 be measured?

00:51:29.020 No.

00:51:30.700 No.

00:51:31.680 No, it can't

00:51:32.420 be measured.

00:51:33.100 That's stupid.

00:51:34.420 How would you

00:51:34.760 even measure that?

00:51:35.740 You could measure

00:51:36.540 what people say,

00:51:38.760 right?

00:51:39.900 The only thing

00:51:40.680 you're measuring

00:51:41.100 is what they

00:51:41.600 say.

00:51:42.560 You're not

00:51:42.940 measuring their

00:51:43.520 inner thoughts.

00:51:44.500 Because I don't

00:51:45.020 think people are

00:51:46.760 so in touch with

00:51:47.760 themselves that

00:51:48.400 they even know

00:51:49.020 what's making

00:51:50.200 them happy,

00:51:50.780 why.

00:51:51.800 We're not

00:51:52.340 really that smart

00:51:53.200 that we're like,

00:51:54.040 all right, I was

00:51:55.740 a 7.6

00:51:56.860 and a 10

00:51:57.320 yesterday, but

00:51:58.100 it looks like

00:51:59.080 my numbers are

00:51:59.780 up to 8.2.

00:52:01.320 All right, that's

00:52:01.800 not a thing.

00:52:03.180 So don't imagine

00:52:04.340 that you could

00:52:04.860 poll people about

00:52:05.860 their happiness

00:52:06.500 and get some

00:52:07.380 kind of useful

00:52:08.200 number.

00:52:09.060 But it might

00:52:09.920 have changed

00:52:10.400 historically.

00:52:12.200 So whatever the

00:52:12.900 baseline was and

00:52:13.860 why ever it was,

00:52:15.060 for whatever

00:52:15.600 reason, maybe 0.78

00:52:17.400 there's some

00:52:17.840 change to the

00:52:18.300 baseline.

00:52:19.280 That might mean

00:52:19.840 something.

00:52:20.800 But if you

00:52:21.820 were to speculate

00:52:22.500 why women would 1.00

00:52:23.900 seem recently

00:52:25.500 less happy,

00:52:26.700 what would be

00:52:27.440 your first

00:52:28.460 guess for

00:52:30.740 why?

00:52:31.980 What's top of

00:52:33.060 mind as a

00:52:34.460 hypothesis?

00:52:37.820 I'm going to

00:52:38.800 put my

00:52:39.660 hypothesis out

00:52:41.480 there.

00:52:42.720 I believe that

00:52:43.900 when women 1.00

00:52:44.480 decided to

00:52:45.540 compete with

00:52:46.580 men as men,

00:52:48.580 it was a

00:52:49.660 strategic mistake.

00:52:52.420 Now, clearly,

00:52:53.600 we're all,

00:52:54.180 awake and

00:52:56.240 aware enough

00:52:56.800 that we want

00:52:57.940 every human to

00:52:58.780 have all the

00:52:59.360 opportunities of

00:53:00.300 any human.

00:53:01.280 So it has

00:53:02.460 nothing to do

00:53:03.020 with opportunities.

00:53:04.060 Everybody should

00:53:04.520 do whatever

00:53:04.840 they want.

00:53:05.880 But, as has

00:53:07.280 often been

00:53:07.780 pointed out by

00:53:08.640 women, 1.00

00:53:09.620 especially,

00:53:10.840 the competitive

00:53:12.360 workplace was

00:53:15.320 designed by

00:53:16.460 men for men

00:53:18.440 to compete the

00:53:19.200 way men

00:53:19.600 compete.

00:53:20.060 if a free

00:53:22.300 market had

00:53:22.860 been designed

00:53:23.420 entirely by

00:53:24.180 women, it 1.00

00:53:25.660 probably would

00:53:26.260 look a little

00:53:26.700 different.

00:53:28.140 So you have

00:53:29.020 basically women 0.98

00:53:30.420 entering a

00:53:31.400 game they

00:53:31.860 didn't design

00:53:32.820 and was

00:53:33.700 designed for a

00:53:34.620 different set

00:53:36.000 of personalities,

00:53:37.000 perhaps.

00:53:39.380 So,

00:53:41.000 let me say

00:53:42.060 the other

00:53:42.300 way.

00:53:42.500 If men

00:53:43.020 tried to

00:53:44.100 enter

00:53:44.640 domains that

00:53:46.340 women have 0.95

00:53:47.080 been killing

00:53:47.780 for centuries,

00:53:49.840 it probably

00:53:50.600 wouldn't do

00:53:50.940 so well.

00:53:52.060 So some of

00:53:52.720 it may have

00:53:53.220 to do with

00:53:53.740 what you're

00:53:54.200 measuring and

00:53:56.120 what game

00:53:56.860 you're playing.

00:53:58.460 And if it's

00:53:59.380 true that,

00:53:59.980 as women

00:54:00.340 say, that 0.63

00:54:01.400 capitalism is

00:54:02.940 set up by

00:54:03.400 men to

00:54:04.260 favor male

00:54:05.880 traits,

00:54:07.360 that there are

00:54:08.300 certain male

00:54:08.840 aggressive

00:54:09.520 risk-taking

00:54:10.920 traits,

00:54:12.460 let me give

00:54:14.160 you an 0.64

00:54:14.340 example.

00:54:14.600 when I

00:54:16.940 take a

00:54:17.500 risk,

00:54:18.320 I often

00:54:19.720 feel

00:54:20.400 excited by

00:54:22.720 it.

00:54:24.280 Other

00:54:24.800 people, when

00:54:25.340 they take

00:54:25.720 a risk,

00:54:27.180 feel anxiety.

00:54:30.000 Now, that's

00:54:30.640 not because I'm

00:54:31.320 awesome.

00:54:32.440 I was just

00:54:33.180 born that

00:54:33.560 way.

00:54:34.640 I just

00:54:35.120 like risk.

00:54:36.360 Not every

00:54:36.900 risk.

00:54:37.220 I don't like

00:54:37.600 physical risk

00:54:38.300 at all,

00:54:39.140 but lots

00:54:39.600 of risk.

00:54:40.100 You know,

00:54:40.240 risk of

00:54:40.580 embarrassment,

00:54:41.300 that sort

00:54:41.580 of thing.

00:54:41.800 risk of

00:54:44.600 having to

00:54:45.100 blow my 0.95

00:54:46.440 nose on

00:54:46.880 live stream.

00:54:48.240 That's

00:54:48.760 stuff I

00:54:49.060 like.

00:54:51.060 So, here's

00:54:51.920 the question.

00:54:52.960 Do men

00:54:53.340 and women

00:54:53.780 enjoy the

00:54:55.740 same level

00:54:56.300 of risk?

00:54:57.700 Well, I

00:54:58.420 would think

00:54:58.800 that evolution

00:54:59.480 would cause

00:55:00.100 us to have

00:55:00.580 a different

00:55:01.160 appetite for

00:55:02.060 risk,

00:55:02.900 simply because

00:55:04.000 women are 1.00

00:55:05.460 more valuable

00:55:06.720 to reproduction

00:55:07.520 than men.

00:55:09.900 You know,

00:55:10.140 you only need

00:55:10.600 a few men

00:55:11.220 and you

00:55:11.900 get all

00:55:12.180 the sperm

00:55:13.500 you want.

00:55:15.640 So,

00:55:16.260 logically,

00:55:17.060 men would 0.98

00:55:17.620 be less

00:55:18.620 risk-averse

00:55:19.960 because we

00:55:21.040 don't need

00:55:21.400 men as

00:55:21.740 much.

00:55:22.920 You know,

00:55:23.120 they have

00:55:24.200 their own

00:55:24.860 roles in

00:55:26.020 which taking

00:55:26.500 risk is

00:55:27.000 actually a

00:55:27.640 positive

00:55:28.420 thing.

00:55:29.360 You know,

00:55:29.520 it's kind

00:55:29.740 of risky

00:55:30.100 to hunt

00:55:30.460 that big

00:55:31.560 game and

00:55:32.160 it's kind

00:55:32.920 of risky

00:55:33.260 to go to

00:55:33.700 war,

00:55:34.120 but you

00:55:34.580 got to

00:55:34.800 protect

00:55:35.100 the tribe.

00:55:36.980 So,

00:55:38.340 some of it

00:55:40.280 has to do

00:55:40.700 with just

00:55:41.080 that.

00:55:42.980 But there

00:55:43.400 could be

00:55:43.760 lots of

00:55:44.160 other reasons

00:55:44.640 that people

00:55:45.160 are answering

00:55:45.960 differently.

00:55:46.760 Could be

00:55:47.220 fewer family

00:55:48.400 situations,

00:55:49.720 less happy

00:55:50.220 marriages,

00:55:51.500 less certainty

00:55:52.320 about roles.

00:55:54.240 You know,

00:55:54.860 the one thing

00:55:56.200 we don't like

00:55:56.780 to admit

00:55:57.420 about humans

00:55:58.240 is that

00:55:59.720 we're very

00:56:00.240 comfortable

00:56:00.680 being told

00:56:01.360 what to do

00:56:02.040 because you

00:56:04.140 don't have

00:56:04.400 to think

00:56:04.800 and then

00:56:05.800 it's also

00:56:06.180 not your

00:56:06.600 fault if it

00:56:07.060 goes wrong.

00:56:08.540 So,

00:56:09.180 you know,

00:56:09.700 men and

00:56:10.140 women, 1.00

00:56:10.560 all of us,

00:56:11.040 we kind

00:56:11.420 of like

00:56:11.660 to be

00:56:11.920 told what

00:56:12.300 to do.

00:56:13.460 And in

00:56:14.300 the old

00:56:14.620 days,

00:56:15.420 it was obvious

00:56:16.500 what you

00:56:16.940 were going

00:56:17.220 to do

00:56:17.520 if you

00:56:17.820 were a

00:56:18.060 woman.

00:56:19.340 You got

00:56:19.920 to get

00:56:20.360 married and

00:56:20.980 have kids

00:56:21.520 and take

00:56:22.100 care of

00:56:22.340 the home.

00:56:23.260 And even

00:56:23.540 if those

00:56:23.940 were not

00:56:24.380 individually

00:56:25.460 awesome and

00:56:27.240 they were

00:56:27.440 too limiting

00:56:28.020 options,

00:56:29.420 all the

00:56:29.840 reasons that

00:56:30.320 it changed

00:56:30.780 were good

00:56:31.180 reasons.

00:56:32.060 But it

00:56:32.620 certainly gave

00:56:33.240 you certainty.

00:56:34.560 It told

00:56:35.000 you what

00:56:35.400 your role

00:56:35.800 was and it

00:56:36.360 put you in

00:56:36.780 it and

00:56:37.300 that had

00:56:37.580 to be

00:56:37.780 good for

00:56:38.040 your mental

00:56:38.340 health.

00:56:39.400 Same with

00:56:39.960 men.

00:56:40.900 But now

00:56:41.180 suppose you

00:56:41.760 say to

00:56:42.120 women, 1.00

00:56:42.480 all right,

00:56:43.260 you could

00:56:43.640 be a

00:56:44.620 mother and

00:56:45.980 focus on

00:56:46.700 that,

00:56:47.800 but you

00:56:48.220 could also

00:56:48.600 be a

00:56:48.980 career person

00:56:49.740 and put

00:56:50.680 the family

00:56:51.140 thing to

00:56:51.600 the back.

00:56:52.660 Imagine

00:56:53.080 the decision

00:56:53.820 making you

00:56:54.300 would have

00:56:54.580 to go

00:56:54.900 through to

00:56:56.240 decide whether

00:56:56.920 to be a

00:56:57.540 mother or

00:56:58.620 an executive

00:56:59.200 or to try

00:57:00.500 to make

00:57:00.820 both of

00:57:01.240 them work

00:57:01.580 at the

00:57:01.860 same time.

00:57:02.460 that would

00:57:04.160 be a

00:57:05.140 really

00:57:05.920 disturbing

00:57:08.940 choice and

00:57:10.360 I'm glad I

00:57:10.900 don't have

00:57:11.220 to make

00:57:11.560 it.

00:57:12.740 So I

00:57:13.480 grew up

00:57:13.800 knowing

00:57:14.060 exactly what

00:57:14.800 I had to

00:57:15.220 do.

00:57:16.160 I probably

00:57:16.940 knew exactly

00:57:17.700 what I had

00:57:18.160 to do as

00:57:18.820 a male

00:57:19.760 by age

00:57:23.120 of five.

00:57:24.440 Maybe by

00:57:25.100 the time I

00:57:25.480 was five

00:57:25.980 years old,

00:57:26.780 I knew

00:57:27.580 exactly what

00:57:28.560 I needed

00:57:28.880 to do and

00:57:30.340 it never

00:57:30.640 changed.

00:57:31.120 what I

00:57:32.220 needed to

00:57:32.660 do was

00:57:33.960 become as

00:57:34.840 useful as

00:57:35.560 I could.

00:57:37.320 Useful in

00:57:38.040 the market,

00:57:38.720 useful to

00:57:39.120 other people,

00:57:40.160 useful financially

00:57:41.100 and not

00:57:43.160 become a

00:57:43.660 burden on

00:57:44.160 other people.

00:57:45.640 So job

00:57:46.360 one is

00:57:47.880 not to

00:57:48.480 make other

00:57:49.200 people take

00:57:49.760 care of

00:57:50.060 you.

00:57:51.100 Job one.

00:57:52.140 I knew

00:57:52.480 that.

00:57:53.280 I knew I

00:57:53.760 had to

00:57:53.980 work.

00:57:54.440 I knew I

00:57:54.700 had to

00:57:55.060 do something

00:57:56.360 useful,

00:57:57.000 not just

00:57:57.380 move rocks.

00:57:59.240 Every part

00:58:00.120 of my life

00:58:00.760 was just

00:58:01.280 presented to

00:58:02.520 me.

00:58:02.980 Even going

00:58:03.560 to college

00:58:04.260 was presented

00:58:06.060 to me

00:58:06.500 basically at

00:58:07.280 birth by

00:58:08.680 my mother.

00:58:10.520 I came out

00:58:11.360 of the womb

00:58:11.820 and I think

00:58:12.220 my mother

00:58:12.600 was saying,

00:58:13.800 college,

00:58:14.880 college,

00:58:15.660 you're definitely,

00:58:16.500 I don't know

00:58:16.880 what else you do,

00:58:17.400 you're definitely

00:58:17.940 going to

00:58:18.320 college,

00:58:19.360 college.

00:58:20.480 And I

00:58:21.880 didn't even

00:58:22.540 know there

00:58:22.920 was another

00:58:23.300 option.

00:58:24.500 By the time

00:58:25.160 it was time

00:58:25.580 to apply to

00:58:26.160 colleges,

00:58:27.620 I never

00:58:28.540 even considered

00:58:29.180 another option.

00:58:30.760 So I

00:58:31.120 didn't have

00:58:31.440 any unsettling

00:58:32.880 decisions and

00:58:34.280 now at this

00:58:34.840 point in my

00:58:35.280 life I

00:58:35.760 can look at

00:58:36.200 all the

00:58:36.460 things I've

00:58:36.880 done and

00:58:37.840 I can say,

00:58:38.480 oh yeah,

00:58:38.800 that was

00:58:39.040 pretty much

00:58:39.420 on track.

00:58:40.500 I was

00:58:40.900 supposed to

00:58:41.280 work hard,

00:58:42.300 I was

00:58:42.580 supposed to

00:58:43.000 make money,

00:58:44.340 develop skills,

00:58:45.520 be useful.

00:58:46.440 Yeah,

00:58:46.700 I did those

00:58:47.140 things.

00:58:47.740 I'm a man.

00:58:49.260 But I

00:58:49.880 can't imagine

00:58:50.400 having had to

00:58:51.180 choose between

00:58:52.140 that and

00:58:53.340 some kind

00:58:53.740 of family

00:58:54.840 matriarchy 0.96

00:58:56.640 kind of

00:58:57.340 situation.

00:58:57.800 that would

00:58:59.060 have been

00:58:59.280 a really,

00:59:00.100 really

00:59:00.220 disturbing

00:59:00.740 choice.

00:59:01.460 Because I

00:59:01.820 think either

00:59:02.360 way I

00:59:02.900 chose, it

00:59:04.520 would have

00:59:04.800 seemed like

00:59:05.200 a mistake

00:59:05.840 some of

00:59:06.700 the times.

00:59:07.960 Like some

00:59:08.460 of the times

00:59:08.920 I would wish

00:59:09.420 I'd gone a

00:59:09.940 different

00:59:10.140 direction.

00:59:12.860 Now I

00:59:13.480 saw, I

00:59:15.040 want to give

00:59:15.380 you a 0.57

00:59:15.740 reframe that

00:59:16.800 might help

00:59:17.260 you.

00:59:18.840 This one

00:59:19.400 also is in

00:59:19.940 my upcoming

00:59:20.620 book.

00:59:21.620 I'll tell

00:59:21.940 you more

00:59:22.220 about in

00:59:22.640 next week

00:59:23.660 or so.

00:59:29.700 Well, I

00:59:30.260 might save

00:59:30.620 that one

00:59:30.880 actually.

00:59:32.160 So, yeah,

00:59:37.880 let me save

00:59:38.260 that one.

00:59:39.320 All right,

00:59:39.880 that's all I

00:59:40.480 have for you

00:59:40.820 today,

00:59:41.520 YouTube.

00:59:42.460 I hope my

00:59:43.140 theme, that

00:59:43.920 everything will

00:59:44.440 be fine,

00:59:45.440 came through.

00:59:46.740 Yeah, we

00:59:47.140 get problems,

00:59:47.840 but we'll be

00:59:48.320 fine.

00:59:49.060 It's no worse

00:59:49.680 than it's ever

00:59:50.100 been.

00:59:50.600 In fact, it's

00:59:51.100 probably better

00:59:51.520 than it's

00:59:51.860 ever been.

00:59:52.640 On a lot

00:59:53.080 of different

00:59:54.000 scales.

01:00:00.020 Let me

01:00:00.860 finish the

01:00:01.300 point I

01:00:01.600 was going

01:00:01.780 to make.

01:00:02.500 If you're

01:00:03.000 worried that

01:00:03.820 your goal

01:00:04.820 is to

01:00:05.520 spread your

01:00:06.660 genes,

01:00:08.360 I've heard

01:00:09.100 people say

01:00:09.660 that if you

01:00:10.240 don't get

01:00:10.740 married and

01:00:11.320 have kids,

01:00:12.920 you failed

01:00:13.880 in life

01:00:14.420 because your

01:00:15.440 primary goal

01:00:16.720 is to spread

01:00:17.380 your genes.

01:00:18.340 How many

01:00:18.700 of you think

01:00:19.100 that way?

01:00:21.100 That that

01:00:21.840 would be

01:00:22.140 a good

01:00:22.620 definition

01:00:23.100 of success,

01:00:24.640 that the

01:00:25.300 thing that

01:00:25.740 is you

01:00:26.300 lives on

01:00:27.540 in your

01:00:27.840 children.

01:00:29.940 Well, I

01:00:30.420 saw somebody

01:00:31.800 say that on

01:00:32.320 social media

01:00:32.860 today.

01:00:33.680 And here's

01:00:34.420 the reframe

01:00:35.700 for that.

01:00:38.060 By the

01:00:38.940 fourth

01:00:39.280 generation,

01:00:40.440 all of your

01:00:41.660 contribution

01:00:42.280 will be

01:00:42.820 randomized.

01:00:43.200 When you

01:00:46.040 get together

01:00:46.540 with one

01:00:47.020 mate and

01:00:47.480 you have

01:00:47.680 a kid,

01:00:48.800 it's about

01:00:49.580 half you.

01:00:52.160 When that

01:00:53.200 kid gets

01:00:53.780 married and

01:00:54.240 has another

01:00:54.700 kid, it's

01:00:56.720 maybe a

01:00:57.240 quarter of

01:00:57.780 you, but

01:00:58.280 you're not

01:00:58.600 even guaranteed

01:00:59.220 that,

01:00:59.960 because it's

01:01:00.540 not really

01:01:00.920 half and

01:01:01.380 half ever.

01:01:02.320 You're not

01:01:02.700 even guaranteed

01:01:03.280 that you got

01:01:03.800 your half.

01:01:05.420 By the time

01:01:06.320 you're the

01:01:06.660 fourth generation,

01:01:08.300 you can barely

01:01:09.060 tell who

01:01:09.740 contributed

01:01:10.580 anything,

01:01:11.200 and you've

01:01:12.640 brought in

01:01:13.060 all these

01:01:13.480 outside people

01:01:14.620 to be the

01:01:15.180 people you

01:01:15.640 marry.

01:01:17.260 You're only a

01:01:18.300 few generations

01:01:19.020 from being

01:01:19.560 irrelevant.

01:01:21.420 The fact that

01:01:22.060 you might have

01:01:22.600 contributed some

01:01:23.780 genetic, raw

01:01:26.240 material to

01:01:27.040 somebody five

01:01:27.760 generations down

01:01:28.760 is so trivial

01:01:30.620 and so

01:01:31.800 unimportant that

01:01:33.700 it shouldn't be

01:01:34.560 part of your

01:01:34.980 decision-making.

01:01:37.820 Your tiny

01:01:38.860 little contribution

01:01:39.920 to the gene

01:01:40.780 pool,

01:01:41.200 will get

01:01:42.340 washed and

01:01:43.080 diluted to

01:01:43.700 nothing after

01:01:44.420 a few

01:01:44.720 generations

01:01:45.200 anyway.

01:01:46.480 So it

01:01:47.060 really doesn't

01:01:47.460 matter.

01:01:48.240 I do think

01:01:48.920 that we're

01:01:49.420 designed or

01:01:50.460 we evolved or

01:01:51.480 we are created

01:01:52.200 to want to

01:01:53.360 reproduce.

01:01:54.900 So if you're

01:01:55.840 connected in

01:01:57.100 any way to

01:01:57.660 the reproductive

01:01:58.320 process of

01:01:59.340 society, I

01:02:00.440 think you do

01:02:00.900 find meaning.

01:02:02.680 So you

01:02:03.100 could be

01:02:03.620 just working

01:02:04.540 in law

01:02:04.820 enforcement.

01:02:06.380 I think

01:02:06.780 that's connected

01:02:07.400 to reproduction.

01:02:09.060 Because if

01:02:09.480 crime ran

01:02:10.300 rampant,

01:02:10.900 less reproduction

01:02:13.020 probably.

01:02:14.200 So there

01:02:14.960 are lots of

01:02:15.340 ways to be

01:02:15.840 part of that

01:02:16.380 reproductive

01:02:16.900 chain.

01:02:18.240 But weirdly,

01:02:19.760 and I know

01:02:20.220 this seems

01:02:20.640 upside down,

01:02:21.900 the least

01:02:22.540 important thing

01:02:23.320 you could do

01:02:23.840 is contribute

01:02:24.480 your DNA.

01:02:26.360 Your DNA is

01:02:27.120 the least

01:02:27.720 important part

01:02:28.360 of the whole

01:02:28.660 process.

01:02:29.280 Because there's

01:02:29.660 plenty of

01:02:30.180 DNA.

01:02:31.440 We're not

01:02:31.980 going to run

01:02:32.380 out.

01:02:33.380 We don't

01:02:33.840 need yours.

01:02:34.380 we might

01:02:35.400 need you

01:02:35.860 to be a

01:02:36.300 police

01:02:36.540 officer.

01:02:37.620 We might

01:02:38.260 need you

01:02:38.720 to work

01:02:40.440 your job

01:02:40.960 and make

01:02:41.260 some money

01:02:41.640 so everybody

01:02:42.040 can eat.

01:02:43.040 Eating's good.

01:02:44.240 But your

01:02:44.600 genetic

01:02:44.920 contribution,

01:02:47.060 that's magical

01:02:48.080 thinking.

01:02:49.160 Yeah, you've

01:02:49.680 got some

01:02:50.000 particles.

01:02:51.300 Some parts

01:02:51.880 of a gene

01:02:52.560 will look like

01:02:53.680 maybe they came

01:02:54.400 from you in

01:02:54.880 four generations,

01:02:55.540 but it's

01:02:56.120 irrelevant.

01:02:56.480 And that

01:02:58.420 ladies and 0.98

01:02:58.940 gentlemen

01:02:59.280 is everything

01:03:02.500 I wanted to

01:03:02.920 tell you.

01:03:03.580 And YouTube,

01:03:04.540 thanks for

01:03:04.840 joining.

01:03:05.980 And I'll

01:03:06.260 see you

01:03:06.620 tomorrow.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - August 06, 2023

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