Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2261 Scott Adams： Coffee With Scott 10⧸14⧸2023

00:00:00.000 hmm good morning everybody and welcome to the highlight of human civilization cwsa as we call

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00:00:52.480 mind i thought i would solve most of the world's problems today um i don't know if i can get to all

00:01:00.240 of them uh i got quite a quite an agenda but i will try to uh i will try to get to uh you know most of

00:01:09.900 the world problems and then solve them um yesterday did anybody notice uh was it the day of rage

00:01:18.900 rage everybody got through the day of rage pretty well uh or some call it the day of jihad

00:01:26.820 the day of jihad or as one wag called it low energy jihad it feel it felt a little bit low energy didn't

00:01:38.380 it you know what i'm starting to think i'm starting to think that the palestinians are not as popular

00:01:46.880 as i once thought apparently they're only popular in american colleges

00:01:51.920 they are not popular in their own part of the world because egypt won't let them across the border and 1.00

00:01:59.480 their neighbors don't want any more of them so maybe maybe it's something they're doing that makes them

00:02:09.580 unpopular um but we will make it a distinction between the palestinians and hamas because you

00:02:18.720 know what the uh the real war is sure there's a horrendous war happening in gaza physically

00:02:25.100 but the real war oh the real one for all of us uh online soldiers 0.99

00:02:31.560 is to try to avoid saying something that some fucking idiot will misinterpret am i right my entire 1.00

00:02:42.380 day i wake up and say how can i avoid being misinterpreted by a fucking idiot like sean hannity 1.00

00:02:49.660 who's a fucking idiot i hate to tell you i kind of like i kind of like his skill set he has a lot of 1.00

00:02:56.920 skills but we'll talk about him and vivek yeah no the the whole goal today is for somebody not to act 1.00

00:03:05.080 like you were not sensitive enough to the suffering of this group or you you didn't understand that

00:03:13.880 hamas and palestinians are different yeah everybody understands it but you're going to look for any 1.00

00:03:20.980 little any little slip up aren't you aren't you not you but you know what i mean all right well uh

00:03:29.280 i'm gonna start with the biggest story of the day uh aoc did a video in which allegedly uh she has 0.69

00:03:34.740 heard farting during the middle of her talk now if i were being an honest broker of information i would

00:03:42.760 tell you that that is almost certainly fake news but i'm not here for that today

00:03:48.720 um so i'm gonna i'm gonna treat it like it's real the the funniest thing you say to yourself as i did

00:04:00.900 scott there's no way this could be funny it's just eric swalwell times you know you're updated uh

00:04:09.880 it's not real anyway so what's funny about it it's just you know childlike and then somebody put together

00:04:17.660 what they claim to be a a heat some kind of a heat map or a thermal yeah like a thermal map

00:04:29.120 of her talking then you see the the cloud coming out from the

00:04:33.340 to which i say sure maybe you think this is a fake news story but i say to you follow the science

00:04:45.720 follow the science because that thermal map of aoc farting was no more and no less

00:04:53.920 useful than climate models very similar same same kind of zip code yeah you should either believe

00:05:03.840 them both or believe neither of them that's my advice well let's move on to the next most important

00:05:09.180 news of the day on a tv show called the view which amazingly is still on tv and amazingly there's still

00:05:16.160 a thing called tv uh the host sunny hoston and i think it's funny because she's a host and her last

00:05:26.820 name is hoston come on her name is sunny she has the worst personality in the world but her first name 1.00

00:05:36.120 is sunny hey let's do some sunny hoston except i'm gonna call you all racist not so sunny now but here's

00:05:45.140 what sunny hoston said quote i think we all know hamas has been designated a terror organization

00:05:51.700 just like many other terror organizations have this designation like the proud boys here in the

00:05:58.560 united states wait what proud boys are not a terror organization nobody nobody's ever designated the

00:06:09.460 proud boys as a terror organization now could i be even more graphic may i have permission to be

00:06:19.040 obscenely graphic let me explain to you sunny hoston who the proud boys are the proud boys number one

00:06:29.140 are not people who have done everything the way i wish people do things can we can we stipulate i do not

00:06:37.040 agree with the actions of all the proud boys let me say that up front number two if hamas ever

00:06:46.780 attack the united states the proud boys would be the ones who stop them from raping you the proud boys

00:06:55.200 would be the ones who are standing in front of you and between you and the terrorists the proud boys are

00:07:02.900 the ones who are going to get ripped apart physically to try to give you 10 minutes more to escape 0.99

00:07:08.900 the proud boys the proud boys are going to be saving your fucking life if trouble ever comes 0.99

00:07:14.900 now i'd like to add to this an observation which i don't know is valid or just sexist so you can tell 0.99

00:07:24.240 me is this valid like just an observation or am i being super sexist

00:07:30.740 i'm just going to say it directly nobody cares what women think of war 0.88

00:07:38.720 yes or no nobody cares now i've been looking at all the commentary about you know the situation in

00:07:52.580 gaza and it kind of follows after ukraine of course ukraine's still active and

00:07:57.200 you see lots of opinions i mean both men and women weigh in all the time but the nature of the

00:08:05.220 opinions is different when women are talking about war it often falls into the category of 1.00

00:08:12.100 you know the victims um when they talk about uh israel they talk about the victims when they talk about

00:08:20.640 gaza they talk about the civilians and yeah but mostly they're talking about the cost of war

00:08:29.240 and that's good there's good good that somebody's talking about the cost of war but we also knew what

00:08:34.120 the cost of war was when men talk about war they talk about whether you should do it or not

00:08:41.860 and they also talk about how like a typical male conversation would be how are you going to clean

00:08:50.520 down all those underground bunkers can you get that done with the thermo thermobaric uh munitions

00:08:58.000 or uh by now do we have a whole bunch of uh tunnel robots and we'll just send the robots down there

00:09:05.000 or does it just make more sense to bulldoze them just leave them down there so that's how men talk

00:09:11.400 about war and the question i have is um did war just clarify gender roles is that what happened 0.96

00:09:22.580 when when you don't have the luxury of just talking bullshit everybody just knows what to do right 0.99

00:09:30.080 if the shit goes down the men step forward and the women step back and that's the way it's always been 0.99

00:09:39.300 and probably will always be now no disrespect meant to the many women who serve in armed forces because 0.99

00:09:46.980 you know we respect their services completely it's a different situation anything i say that's sort of

00:09:52.420 generic doesn't apply to all of you right anything i say about men doesn't apply to all men anything i

00:09:59.880 say about women doesn't apply to all women sort of a general general theme sort of situation though

00:10:05.800 so um i just find it very interesting that uh we've automatically gone to gender roles and nobody

00:10:14.040 complains when life and death are on the line as a way of making you serious doesn't it

00:10:20.500 all right let's talk about the shameless liars so jonathan turley was tweeting that uh leon panetta

00:10:29.060 uh i guess yesterday told uh brett bear over at fox leon said that he has not seen uh evidence 0.91

00:10:36.640 establishing that he and others were wrong about calling the hunter laptop russian disinformation

00:10:43.020 that's right it's october 2023 and one of the signers of the famous uh hunter laptop disinformation letter

00:10:55.500 you know all the past and uh current uh intelligence experts leon panetta being one of them

00:11:02.460 still to this day says that he can't rule out uh that it wasn't uh russian disinformation

00:11:10.380 now what does that tell you about the world i don't know if it's telling you much about leon

00:11:18.940 panetta but it's definitely telling you something about the world you know what it's telling you

00:11:23.820 that he knows the news is fake and he knows that no democrat will ever see anything he ever said to

00:11:32.140 fox's brett bear so he can tell he can tell the the right side of the world anything and the left will 0.99

00:11:40.460 never know what happened and the right will just yell what they always do you stinking lying democrat 0.96

00:11:46.940 but nothing changes there's no cost to it he can so rather than embarrassing himself 0.98

00:11:54.300 in front of the enemy you know the the viewers of fox news he just says anything he wants

00:12:00.140 because it doesn't make any difference it doesn't make any difference what he says 0.97

00:12:06.460 what a world shameless liars 0.86

00:12:11.420 are you all familiar with the all in podcasts 0.94

00:12:15.580 all in david sacks uh and the others whose names are harder to pronounce or harder to remember

00:12:22.700 and it's a several basically super rich venture capital uh tech guys who have a uh podcast that

00:12:31.740 makes a big splash in the podcast world so they they've really carved down a little space in the

00:12:39.020 political um sphere so when they say things they often get quoted etc they they have a little bit larger

00:12:45.980 impact than most because i'm not sure but i think everyone on the podcast is probably literally a

00:12:52.380 genius you know if they took an iq test you wouldn't want to compete against them sort of thing so they

00:12:58.460 do have a big uh impact and uh the big surprise from the recent one that just dropped is that they seem

00:13:07.340 to agree that trump did a good job and that he was totally underrated and at the time they couldn't see

00:13:17.580 it but in the fullness of time it is now obvious that although at least one of them uh opposed him and

00:13:25.180 was a democrat probably still is um that he did good work especially with jared kushner who was very smart

00:13:35.180 and capable now does that sound like a prediction that uh somebody made like me i told you the longer

00:13:46.060 that trump is out of office the better he will look the reason for that is simple two reasons

00:13:53.340 number one you would have something to contrast his work with which is biden

00:13:57.180 a you know semi-controlled border versus an uncontrolled border no new wars versus two new wars

00:14:08.060 all right and i could go on but you have contrast uh no inflation versus lots of inflation although the

00:14:15.740 inflation has a lot to do with the pandemic and and both sides are losers when it comes to that

00:14:21.660 but you've got you've got your contrast but the other effect is that the brainwashing wears off

00:14:31.260 brainwashing wears off and if you're not fed a continuous stream of new brainwashing

00:14:39.260 it just sort of fades and is replaced with your own observation over time so that was the basis of my

00:14:46.940 prediction is that people were in a really heavy persuasion bubble and that once he was out of office

00:14:54.780 the bubble would weaken and you would just be able to see through to the other side

00:14:59.500 and that's exactly what's happening all right

00:15:06.620 well it's another tragic day of not having a speaker of the house

00:15:10.700 and once again it comes down to me to list all the problems that is cost i'm just going to start at

00:15:16.540 the top and go down alphabetical order having no speaker of the house for what uh days now and these

00:15:23.820 are the list of problems that uh we've encountered starting with a um all right next story let's talk about

00:15:35.820 that uh ground offensive over in gaza so i guess israel is dropping uh pamphlets uh telling the people

00:15:43.580 in the northern part of gaza to evacuate i think they're saying evacuate to the south i guess i don't

00:15:51.260 know my situation enough to know what's happening on the ground there but wouldn't they be evacuating into

00:15:58.220 rubble did israel already flattened the south and now they're asking the remaining part to evacuate 0.99

00:16:07.180 to the rubble or or am i oversimplifying maybe there's something still i mean where would you go

00:16:14.620 if you don't leave gaza where do you go that you don't just starve to death so i don't know exactly

00:16:22.620 what's going on there but uh let's talk about whether it's a ground offensive or a siege

00:16:29.980 you know they called it a siege israel did and i told you that meant that they don't plan to go in

00:16:36.940 in a standard old-fashioned way where you go door-to-door while the other people are shooting at you

00:16:43.900 i never thought they would do that now there's a few reasons why they don't need to one is that

00:16:49.100 uh hamas is underground if hamas is mostly underground they can just flatten what's above ground

00:16:57.020 and don't have to worry about somebody shooting at them from a building because the building won't be

00:17:01.260 there and mike my thoughts were they were just going to flatten a wide enough perimeter so that

00:17:10.940 there's nothing on the left or the right of them you know they're they're basically just a big old

00:17:15.980 flat nothing left battlefield so that's my first thought is they're certainly going to have you know

00:17:26.780 troops on the ground there's no doubt about that but i don't think it's going to happen

00:17:30.940 until there's not much left to the ground would you call that a siege or a

00:17:36.460 invasion i mean what kind of invasion is it if there's nothing left by the time

00:17:42.060 they're on the ground now the other fact that i don't know how to wait is how much robotics they

00:17:48.940 have apparently they have these uh giant um bulldozers from hell that they can control remotely

00:17:57.820 so the bulldozers are so big you can shoot at them and it'll take an rpg and bounces off and 0.90

00:18:03.580 and shit it can actually dig up uh landmines and they explode in front of the blade and the blade 0.98

00:18:10.300 is just so damn thick it just keeps going so certainly they'll be sending their remote controlled 0.99

00:18:17.820 bulldozers in but why why would israel send in anybody to get a shot at until they just completely 0.60

00:18:24.700 cleared it out with technology and bulldozers and bombs so i've got a feeling that that because israel is 0.95

00:18:32.060 well let me state this as a assumption so this is not a fact it's an assumption my assumption is

00:18:40.140 the only way to handle hamas is to depopulate it so i think they're depopulating it in every way

00:18:47.900 that they can i mean as much as they can because the muscle try to keep them there but i think they

00:18:52.940 have to depopulate it so that they have any hope of later repopulating it in other words you're

00:18:59.820 gonna have to just reboot just literally get every every shoe off the ground and out of the area

00:19:09.820 keep them safe if you can i mean ideally you want to keep them alive the non-combatants and

00:19:17.500 figure out how to move them back and went

00:19:19.340 so i think that's what it's going to look like um i'm not entirely sure

00:19:29.260 that israel wants to clear out all the tunnels

00:19:35.020 do you think that they want to go down and kill those people in the tunnels which would include

00:19:40.700 hostages or do you think they just want to leave them all there because it might be better if nobody ever

00:19:47.900 found the hostages meaning there's no way to get them back alive anyway

00:19:54.220 now if you tried to cover if you tried to cover the entrances and exits to the tunnels

00:19:59.820 your problem is what's your problem then we'll check your military strategy if you cover the exits in the

00:20:08.060 entrance uh and even tried to carry it cover the air holes what would be hamas's response

00:20:18.460 well no the hostages unfortunately i think are dead under all scenarios i hate to say

00:20:23.500 but if they're underground i don't i can't i can't see the scenario where they come back

00:20:29.500 well actually no i'm wrong what if they what if they pumped a sleeping gas down there if they could find the air

00:20:38.060 if they could find the air intake they could pump uh just sleeping gas of some site right

00:20:42.860 actually that might be a way to get those so there might actually be a way to go but here's the

00:20:47.980 question i have could they could they rebuild gaza over the bodies of 20 000 hamas fighters who are

00:20:57.820 literally underground you know and just there forever what would that do to the hearts and minds of the

00:21:04.540 gazans if they knew that people that maybe they supported at least mentally maybe they were

00:21:11.580 non-combatants but they know these are their you know cousins and brothers and fathers and they're just

00:21:18.060 buried below where you build up a new house

00:21:23.820 are they going to go for that i don't know so there's a real psychological question about whether you

00:21:30.380 i have to clear the tunnel the bodies out or whether they just you know drop them other bombs and just

00:21:37.020 collapse them and leave them there because i feel as though i feel as though there would be something

00:21:43.980 in the psychological you know moral superiority way that would be lost by leaving them there

00:21:51.420 because you'd also be leaving the israeli bodies there so i feel like they have to get them

00:22:00.060 one way or the other i feel like they have to get the bodies out of there they probably would try

00:22:08.460 now the big question that i think is the biggest variable here is will the uh the war in gaza

00:22:17.420 be so brutal on the civilians that it backfires against israel and i think the answer to that is 100

00:22:26.060 dependent on the number of casualties would you agree if somehow they went into gaza and you know 25

00:22:34.460 civilians died we would consider that a tragedy because they didn't need to die

00:22:41.340 but we would also say because i hate to say it you know you can't mourn forever we would also get over it

00:22:48.380 pretty quickly because we say well you know over a thousand israelis 25 you know innocent people

00:22:58.380 you know they did what they had to do but what if it's 5 000 what if 5 000 civilians die in gaza

00:23:08.060 well then i think people will say all right well we didn't want them to die

00:23:15.980 but hamas is responsible and we'll probably get over it but what if it's 20 000 civilians

00:23:23.500 what's the point where you don't get over it anymore what's the point where it reverses

00:23:30.700 the psychology of the entire situation until the world says you know you could have done anything

00:23:38.940 but that that was too far remember you got about 2 million uh residents they say 2.3 million

00:23:46.940 um i imagine some number have already left i don't know where they went but you assume in that

00:23:54.700 situation some number just ran for it but probably let's say there's at least 2 million and half of them

00:24:01.340 are kids how many how many of those could die in the act of war before israel turns out to be worse than 0.55

00:24:13.740 if they had done nothing i don't know what that number is but i did a little poll and asked people

00:24:21.900 about 24 percent thought that the the ultimate number could be over 100 000 that's not the number

00:24:28.220 that changes the psychology that's the number that people just predicted what was the last time

00:24:36.540 that many people died i mean way more people have died in ukraine

00:24:40.300 but probably not as i don't know if they've died a percentage more but so that's the that's the

00:24:47.660 question so the question to roll around in your mind is what's that number that once you cross it

00:24:55.580 you're worse off than if you hadn't had the war at all 0.97

00:24:59.900 yeah when do you reach you know dresden proportions exactly if you don't know dresden

00:25:06.140 firebomb during world war ii essentially erased the entire place was just erased all right so

00:25:17.020 we'll keep an eye on that one of the factors is how much we learn because i don't know that we will

00:25:23.980 ever get accurate numbers of the civilian dead do you because the people in charge of those accurate

00:25:30.780 numbers will be the attackers i believe only the attackers will have any official numbers that

00:25:38.860 are believable because the uh gaza residents themselves have no infrastructure if you have 1.00

00:25:45.020 no infrastructure you have no way to check you know against records or or anything if you have no

00:25:51.740 infrastructure there's no way you'll know how many died but israel almost assuredly

00:25:57.740 because all of their institutions will make will remain will do something like a count or an estimate

00:26:05.900 of the dead would you believe the attackers estimate of the civilian deaths on the other side in any war

00:26:18.060 right now this is not a statement against israel per se i just don't think

00:26:23.020 it's credible to believe the attacker about how many civilians died on the other side that's not

00:26:31.660 that's not something anybody should ever believe ever which is not to say that israel would fake that

00:26:37.420 number i'm not saying they would i'm saying why would anybody believe a number coming from the attacker

00:26:44.380 right the winners the winners get the right history yeah we can't even get a number for hawaii that we believe

00:26:51.420 exactly so it's not no insult to israel to say that you just don't believe the attacker

00:27:00.140 that's you know and and you could argue with me whether they are the attacker because they're

00:27:04.460 really defending themselves like at that point all right um i saw kenokoa the great doing some

00:27:15.900 posting on x about the attitudes and sympathies of americans toward the israel palestinian situation

00:27:25.580 and here's something i didn't know maybe this will surprise you that democrats sympathy with

00:27:32.140 palestinians stands at 49 percent overshadowing their support for israel at 38 percent did you know that

00:27:40.300 democrats by a strong majority favor the palestinians over the israelis i didn't know that i i think i only

00:27:52.140 was thinking in terms of you know the entire american public so the entire american public favors israel

00:27:59.980 over the palestinians um but can i uh let me clean up my speech there i believe the average american has

00:28:11.740 sympathy for both sides let's see that's the part where i could get taken into context right see how

00:28:17.500 hard this is it's so hard to not put yourself in a trap where somebody can take you in a contract

00:28:23.740 contrast contrast and a context and say these are your exact words here's you quoted saying the exact

00:28:31.020 thing and a context all right so republicans uh simple sympathy with israel or the early stands at 78

00:28:41.420 overshadowing their support for palestine at 11 so republicans overwhelmingly support the jews

00:28:49.660 um democrats by a pretty strong majority uh do not support the jews in israel

00:29:04.140 independents um are pro-israel 49 to 32 percent of the palestinians now are you as confused as i am

00:29:15.980 about what this is going to do to american politics let's see if i have any chance at

00:29:22.940 all of not getting canceled i'm getting really careful on this one you ready what watch me you

00:29:29.580 like i'm crossing the stream like jumping from rock to rock and i won't know if the rock i jump on next

00:29:35.740 like you're stable i can see if i can get to the other side

00:29:39.500 have you noticed that many racists on the x platform will point out the number of uh news media

00:29:52.220 entities that are owned by people that the racist anti-semitic people call uh jewish owners and ceos

00:30:01.180 you've probably seen that meme or claim a billion times yeah they they the it's the jews own all of our

00:30:08.860 communication now what will those people say what will the anti-semites in america say and and what

00:30:17.260 will happen as uh you know these events are playing through because i'm trying to understand how the

00:30:26.780 platforms which the american anti-semites say are all run by the jews

00:30:32.300 how are they not going to take the side of the palestinians because that's what democrats take and

00:30:41.820 in america seven out of ten jews are democrats

00:30:47.660 do you see how confusing this is getting it's like everybody's point of view doesn't make sense

00:30:53.180 suddenly like the anti-semites are saying oh the jews control the media so therefore

00:31:00.540 the media the democrat media is going to be all all pro israel but in fact the people who consume

00:31:09.100 this very media that the anti-semites say is dominated by jews those people are being somehow

00:31:19.340 immune to the media their own media and coming to opinions that are opposite of the

00:31:25.900 the alleged owners of the you know primary owners of the media nobody's opinion is making sense

00:31:33.820 right am i making my case i feel like i need a little more here but let let me put it in more stark

00:31:43.260 terms how in the world could democrats win another major election

00:31:51.500 did democrats not just lose the entire media structure

00:31:56.540 so and then how how in the world do colleges continue to teach something that the so-called

00:32:06.860 according to the anti-semites in the united states uh the the messaging is all controlled by one group

00:32:13.900 and yet the colleges are breeding people with the opposite point of view

00:32:19.500 it kind of calls into question all of your biases doesn't it your your entire world view is now like wait a

00:32:25.580 minute wait the jews are mostly democrats but the democrats are opposed to the at least the israeli jews

00:32:36.380 nothing makes sense does it yeah you get what i'm talking about right i'm not sure if i'm coming

00:32:44.700 through yet because i'm looking at your comments and they're all over the board here yeah so under

00:32:52.060 these conditions could you not expect that the media both the traditional right-leaning media which

00:33:00.220 is already there and the left-leaning media will start to agree

00:33:07.020 about uh let's say a narrative about israel and that it will be different from what the democrat base

00:33:13.420 believes so does this separate the mainstream media from the democrat base did those two just get

00:33:25.100 separated because you know that the biggest risk in america has been that the media and the democrat

00:33:31.660 base were always on the same side and now in perhaps one of the biggest question of our times they just

00:33:40.540 and it made it clear i think it would be very clear to the you know the uh the media that they're in

00:33:49.980 trouble and that their own base has somehow been radicalized against their interests so what does that do

00:34:01.660 i mean here what i'd expect would be a massive shift of uh american jewish opinion toward republican

00:34:09.980 leadership although i i would um i will say that biden has been you know completely supportive of israel

00:34:19.420 so he's got that going for him um at least recently i mean biden was a little bit more standoffish about

00:34:26.860 the whole region until he had until he had to pay attention yeah there's a video of uh biden with his

00:34:33.900 little note card of what to do walk in room make few comments get up and leave and apparently he held his

00:34:41.180 his note card backwards so that the people at the meeting and the cameras could see his notes about 0.97

00:34:47.740 how not to be a an idiot because he had notes on the other side as well he wasn't supposed to hold 0.99

00:34:53.260 it up and read it he was trolling and maybe he was 1.00

00:35:00.380 so i got big questions how this is going to change american politics but i think it will

00:35:05.660 i think it will you know what will be real interesting is uh i mentioned the all in podcast

00:35:13.260 and how they uh seem to have some agreement there there's a consensus that trump looks better

00:35:19.580 you know as time goes by and i wonder if the mainstream media will start to adopt that

00:35:27.900 i mean that's a lot that that would be a big big swing you say never but remember the context here is

00:35:34.620 that the mainstream media may have broken ranks with the democrat base

00:35:41.660 so they may not be on the same team anymore and what does that what does that do i don't know all right

00:35:55.500 so i guess there are a couple of republicans uh representatives tom tiffany and andy ogles

00:36:02.620 uh wisconsin and tennessee respectively and they're introducing uh legislation that would ban

00:36:10.140 uh the biden administration from importing palestinians to the united states to be resettled in american

00:36:17.100 communities and um so this is a brand new thing breitbart is writing about it and it's uh called the

00:36:28.060 guaranteeing aggressors zero admissions act or the gaza act okay they true they try too hard

00:36:35.740 so you see the problem right the problem is they have not made the distinction between

00:36:42.300 hamas and palestinian residents now i find that odious 1.00

00:36:49.260 and i would agree with that i think joel pollock was pushing back on this it's notable that he's

00:36:56.460 also associated with breitbart so breitbart is not one opinion which is interesting to know they're not

00:37:03.100 of one opinion and uh points out that for israel to do what it needs to do in gaza it would be quite

00:37:12.860 good if the you know non-combatants had a place to go and could be at least temporarily uh taken care of

00:37:21.340 now i understand that uh i understand both opinions all right those are two opinions that make sense to me

00:37:29.900 neither of them are illogical uh both of them are grounded in people's best understanding what would be the

00:37:37.260 moral way forward so it's more of a tactical strategic question than it is a moral question in my opinion but

00:37:48.540 um i'm gonna say

00:37:53.020 we'd just be asking for trouble you know we're just asking for trouble if there's one thing that

00:38:01.180 my cancellation might have taught you it goes like this we have to learn to separate opinions about

00:38:10.540 people's you know dna or even their culture from what brainwashing they have been subjected to because

00:38:18.780 the brainwashing has nothing to do with your your race or anything else it's not your religion it's

00:38:25.740 it's just some code that's in your head and if you discriminate against people who have code in their head

00:38:31.100 you're not exactly a racist it's about people whose idea is they want to kill you you don't want to be around them

00:38:38.780 so uh right now i think i saw uh it was a news thing

00:38:45.420 that uh christopher ruffo is it rufo or ruffo i was i'm sure i say his name wrong but uh

00:38:52.940 he says that harvard is uh just listen to this i mean this is christopher ruffo's uh phrasing

00:39:01.580 but just listen to all the words because they're important uh harvard has paid a non-binary latinx 0.87

00:39:09.740 academic to quote decolonize harvard which he says is quote seller colonial genocidal and eurocentric

00:39:19.980 institution that must be quote abolished

00:39:25.740 and uh christopher points out that decolonization is the ideology of barbarism 0.98

00:39:31.500 both at home and abroad i added to that i said you should get the fuck away from anybody who uses the 0.90

00:39:39.340 word colonizer in a serious way i mean i use it in a humorous way but you should get the 0.98

00:39:47.820 fuck away from anybody who thinks that word belongs in america as a description of our reality 0.98

00:39:55.660 that is a i'm going to kill you later if i get a chance word don't make any mistake about it 1.00

00:40:02.460 that's a we're coming for you word that is we're going to fuck you upward that's what it means if you 1.00

00:40:09.900 miss that you're gonna be dead right get the fuck away from anybody who uses that language isolate them 1.00

00:40:21.260 don't sell them anything don't buy anything from them don't hire them they are coming for you they're 1.00

00:40:27.900 fucking coming for you 0.97

00:40:32.300 defund them if you can yeah don't go to harvard is my first advice so 0.99

00:40:39.820 can we understand this as a problem with how people are thinking whether it's esg or dei or crt

00:40:48.220 these are all part of the colonizer vocabulary and all of them have that oppressor repressed model and 0.93

00:40:54.940 if they're labeling you the oppressor or the colonizer get the fuck away these are dangerous

00:41:01.820 people and you should try to put as much distance between yourself and them as you can

00:41:11.580 so the comment is so you promote taking the way their freedom of speech no no no no

00:41:19.260 what did you hear about freedom of speech

00:41:20.860 that wasn't me

00:41:27.500 i'm saying if somebody announces that they're going to kill you you should get away

00:41:34.460 in every way that you can

00:41:37.580 but we don't uh just to clarify we don't have freedom of speech in 2023

00:41:44.220 not really but we we have the old-fashioned kind of uh illusion of freedom of speech where

00:41:50.380 the government itself may not directly put you in jail but they can use their entities

00:41:57.100 to you know freeze you out and they can also use to make sure you never work

00:42:04.380 so effectively we don't have free speech and i'm angry about people who say we do because we don't

00:42:11.020 yeah anybody who thinks they have free speech has never said anything interesting

00:42:19.100 you can quote me on that everybody who still believes they have free speech

00:42:25.020 in 23 in america has never said anything interesting that's why they think they have free speech

00:42:33.340 try to be interesting for about five minutes see see if you still think you have free speech

00:42:37.580 try it out see how it goes

00:42:41.580 yeah all right so i'm in favor of uh banning uh all immigration from places that 0.98

00:42:48.540 could have with them a mind virus uh just as we tried to close travel from china when the covid virus was

00:42:56.700 here was that because we hated chinese people anybody anybody did we close travel from china

00:43:03.820 during covid because of our hatred for chinese people no no it wasn't about anybody's genes

00:43:12.620 it wasn't about anybody's culture it was about they had a virus in them maybe but we couldn't tell

00:43:18.780 which ones had it and which one didn't with the palestinians there is a mind virus and we absolutely 1.00

00:43:25.420 do not want any children who were raised in that environment not because of their genes not because

00:43:32.860 of their culture overall but because in all likelihood hamas was their teacher do you think

00:43:40.620 i want even one child who was taught by hamas to grow up in the united states nope i do not want one 1.00

00:43:46.940 not even one one is too many is it a gigantic tragedy that there's not an easy place to put

00:43:56.460 the people will be displaced yes it's a gigantic tragedy i would never minimize that however it is

00:44:05.020 worth noting that none of their arab neighbors want anything to do with them do you think it's because 1.00

00:44:13.100 they don't like they don't like their genes is it because their arab neighbors don't like their 1.00

00:44:19.100 ethnicity is it because they don't like arab culture no because they are all of those things 1.00

00:44:28.220 their neighbors are just like them the difference is the palestinians have a mind virus and so the 1.00

00:44:36.540 egyptians are saying it's not personal you're infected with covet so we're going to quarantine you 1.00

00:44:45.260 and of course the there's immense um suffering and cruelty that comes out of that point of view

00:44:55.020 it's also a tough choice that you know adults have to make so uh in my opinion egypt is making the

00:45:03.420 adult correct choice not treating them like there's anything wrong with them as people they

00:45:08.940 just have a mental virus and they don't know any way to get rid of it i remind you that i'm going to 0.65

00:45:15.180 try to deprogram a democrat on monday on spaces so i got a volunteer somebody who's a mega hating

00:45:25.020 democrat and i want to see if i can deprogram i want to be very clear about this it's not going to be a

00:45:31.580 debate so i'm not going to tell them his views are wrong i'm going to deprogram it it's a different

00:45:39.580 process all right um when it comes to this whole situation in gaza uh we all have many opinions

00:45:48.460 do we not opinions opinions they should do this they should that um you may have noticed

00:45:54.540 that i don't i try not to talk in the language of opinion and here's why opinions don't matter

00:46:04.700 to what's going to happen in gaza the gaza situation is only going to go one way

00:46:10.220 right i mean you could argue about you don't know the exact details of how israel will eliminate hamas

00:46:17.500 but when we're done the hamas fighters will be neutralized nothing's going to stop that you could

00:46:26.220 complain all you want you could say they shouldn't do it but what's the point of that you could argue

00:46:32.780 against it should never rain again but it's going to what did your opinion have to do with the rain

00:46:39.420 uh there should not be gravity but there is that's not really a conversation so when we're talking

00:46:49.100 about you know what should israel do that's not a real conversation there's only going to want be one

00:46:57.580 thing that happens as soon as hamas did the attack the way they did the rest was just written so so

00:47:06.380 saying i don't like it or or saying you you shouldn't go in and attack you know on the ground

00:47:16.460 what's the difference they're not going to listen to me do you think they should do you think anybody

00:47:22.700 should listen to me no so let me teach you a little uh persuasion trick may i if you're giving opinions 0.99

00:47:33.260 to israel israel quite rightly should say fuck off because if the situation were reversed and you were 0.99

00:47:43.660 israel and you'd been attacked you would not be taking the opinions of the french am i right 1.00

00:47:50.940 can we agree on that if you're if you were in the country that just took the blow that israel just

00:47:57.180 took you're not listening to the french's opinion oh we we you think we should not counteract 0.98

00:48:03.340 fuck you you're not part of the conversation all right so we should be cognizant of the fact that even 0.98

00:48:10.300 though america and israel has a tight relationship we're not really part of this conversation 0.99

00:48:16.140 but here's a persuasion tip for you but i'll tell you one thing that they would appreciate

00:48:25.340 because everybody does a better idea opinions are worthless if you're not in israel making decisions

00:48:34.780 but maybe a suggestion so that's what i'm going to do i'm going to make a suggestion

00:48:46.060 if it's one that they had not considered then that's additive it doesn't mean that they would use

00:48:52.060 anything i suggest but it would have this one minor benefit it would open your imagination

00:48:58.940 to more than the options that we see now because the options that i see are that you could never put

00:49:06.300 the palestinians back into gaza the situation will just be recreated because you've got a million 1.00

00:49:13.420 children who have already been radicalized right just put them back it just regrows into hamas too

00:49:20.220 so you can't have that because samas too would have better weapons because you know technology moves forward

00:49:27.660 and you can't leave it empty because then it's genocide um so what do you do so here's where i'm

00:49:36.460 going to add a suggestion for what to do you know once once the loss has been neutralized

00:49:42.300 uh in 2023 how do you how do you build a better place here's my suggestion since you can never have

00:49:51.740 the um palestinians in charge of gaza again i think there's no way that'll ever happen again but you also 0.99

00:50:00.700 can't have israel in charge because then it's you know that's a bad look and it's bad in a lot of ways 0.89

00:50:09.340 but here's what you might be able to do um you might be able to uh get saudi arabia to take

00:50:15.340 custodial control of gaza not own it and be under a security umbrella that is purely israel

00:50:24.860 so that you know the police and the military and the borders all israel the intelligence all israel

00:50:31.660 but you would ask saudi arabia to be the adult in the room do you think saudi arabia

00:50:37.980 would like to be framed as the peacemaking adult in the room i'm going to say yes because i think

00:50:46.060 mbs the crown prince who you know we don't forgive him for his bone sawing but at the same time he 0.63

00:50:52.700 clearly is a um progressive not in the way we use it here but he's certainly willing to look at things

00:51:01.660 and change them in a different way than what has gone before he is a deal maker he seems to be able

00:51:06.940 to work with netanyahu and he was interested in some kind of an accord with israel that is now on hold

00:51:13.820 because of this situation but given that we know saudi arabia and israel had a an interest in reaching

00:51:20.700 an accord in the first place i'm sure they still do they wish that this had not happened and given that

00:51:27.100 the hamas was trying to probably stop that accord from going through the the number one thing you'd

00:51:34.460 want to do is not let them win which is to stop progress so here's what you do you say um we can't

00:51:43.660 go forward under our current conditions but let us add a sweetener to the deal and the sweetener is

00:51:50.700 saudi we would love you to be sort of the the stewards in much the way you are the stewards of

00:51:58.620 the holy lands right saudi arabia already has the uh the respect of the rest of the muslim world

00:52:08.060 because they control the holy lands and i think you'd agree they do a good job of it right because

00:52:15.020 there's massive you know uh annual migrations to see the holy lands and it largely works

00:52:22.700 right so i think they have this unique role in the islamic world as sort of the being above it all

00:52:30.220 you know being a little bit above the politics of it controlling the religious faith and i think they

00:52:36.700 could do that in uh gaza i think they could be a credible custodian as long as they're not in charge

00:52:47.020 of the security because israel's gonna never let go of that i assume now i would add to that um

00:52:57.660 that they should have an a an idea of what a rebuilt gaza looks like

00:53:02.380 and if you imagine that they came up with a stable situation with a saudi custodial control that's the

00:53:11.900 key word custodial you know so it's not ownership it's just responsibility basically

00:53:20.060 um do you think that would attract investment i think so i think you could attract investment

00:53:28.860 if you had a stable situation that um prevented hamas from taking power

00:53:34.860 do you think that it would be time especially with the saudis having an interest in nuclear energy

00:53:41.820 and israel having capabilities don't you think it's time to put a nuclear power plant in gaza

00:53:49.100 so they can desalinate so that the you know their water is not controlled by somebody else

00:53:55.180 but well in fact israel is still out of control but um it would also give them electricity and

00:54:01.660 would give it to them at a reasonable price now you might say to yourself but scott nobody wants a

00:54:07.820 nuclear power plant in their backyard well i think the gaza residents have seen more risk

00:54:15.580 than a nuclear power plant the type of which has never had a meltdown you know the modern versions 0.97

00:54:21.980 i think they would take that risk i mean i don't think that they're you know scientifically morons 0.77

00:54:31.180 but i think they would take that risk so imagine if you will uh a new gaza built with green tech 0.78

00:54:38.460 turned into basically switzerland for that area switzerland for that area and

00:54:48.300 maybe they're the place that other uh islamic uh people who are escaping from let's say whatever 0.97

00:54:58.140 badness is in their own area maybe it's a place that refugees go 1.00

00:55:03.420 because you know of course you'd have to vet them pretty carefully

00:55:08.300 but uh that's my suggestion my suggestion is to have a

00:55:11.260 uh to create an image of what the end state looks like create a positive image of what the end state

00:55:19.260 looks like if you can get people to debate the end state then you've made them think past the carnage

00:55:27.740 carnage is guaranteed but you could rebuild gaza as a you know a resort destination

00:55:36.300 high standard of living you know model of how to recreate things not too far from actually uh trump's

00:55:44.060 idea of building a greenfield city from scratch in the united states on government land i'm all about

00:55:51.420 that because i think one of the biggest the biggest things in the future is that if you start from

00:55:58.060 scratch using modern technology and green technology you could build something like we've never built

00:56:03.580 before yet a city you could design it from scratch and it would be the best living conditions in the

00:56:09.900 world now if this were america you'd already be yelling 15 minutes cities don't let the wef

00:56:17.180 turn me into a globalist slave well i don't think you i don't think they're worried about that in gaza

00:56:24.620 probably not thinking about that too much so maybe they just like to have a really really good city

00:56:29.820 and get something at the end of this that wouldn't have been possible otherwise all right

00:56:37.100 and again it's not it's not that i think that that's the specific good idea just just to summarize

00:56:44.780 it's about making people think creatively it's about getting the brainstorming going it's about

00:56:50.460 understanding that design is destiny you can design something that would last

00:56:56.860 the way gaza was designed it was guaranteed to get to this point very predictable uh let's just

00:57:05.020 leave this radicalized group here to do what they want and talk about how they want to kill us until

00:57:09.900 they have the capabilities to actually make an attack how is it not going to happen right how is it not

00:57:16.860 going to happen of course it was so design something that doesn't have that guaranteed outcome

00:57:21.820 then maybe you have something all right um i'm going to come back to this story about uh you saw that

00:57:32.540 vivek ramaswamy was on hannity and they disagreed about something that uh was vivek's past opinion

00:57:43.100 now i care so little about what the actual topic was because it's not relevant to my point that i'm

00:57:50.780 just going to ignore it because it doesn't matter to anything but i'm just going to give you this tip

00:57:57.020 hannity kept saying to vivek who was arguing that he was being misinterpreted uh hannity kept saying

00:58:04.860 those are your exact words those are your exact words though though that's verbatim this is you

00:58:10.060 verbatim those are exact words now if i could teach you anything about fake news when you hear anybody 0.90

00:58:17.980 left or right saying those were your exact words they are the liar

00:58:25.740 because they're not saying those are all of the words you've said about this

00:58:30.300 had they said these are all the words you've ever said about this what are we supposed to think

00:58:37.180 then i would think that's an argument now that's an argument these are all the words you've ever said

00:58:42.380 on this topic and when i look at them they give me a certain impression so how do you explain that

00:58:47.500 that would be hard to rebut but if you say these specific words are your exact words that is the

00:58:55.180 strongest tell that the person saying that is just trying to trap you and they know that they're

00:59:02.540 doing it so hannity i'm really disappointed in you because i have very high opinion of his skills

00:59:10.060 his skill sack is incredible skill i said sack uh stack is incredible yeah he's one of the most

00:59:18.700 talented people on tv all right and that ladies and gentlemen brings us to a strong strong finish

00:59:31.420 to what i think is the greatest live stream you're gonna see all morning today because probably it's

00:59:38.140 the only one you're gonna see and i'm gonna i'm gonna stick with that opinion all right

00:59:45.260 um possibly the best live stream ever that's true

00:59:56.620 this would all stop if scott stopped watching and keeping cable news alive is it me i'm the one

01:00:02.700 keeping cable news alive but all of my watch my 10 minutes of watching yesterday all right uh

01:00:11.500 ladies and gentlemen thank you oh it looks like i'm getting good comments over here on youtube and

01:00:17.420 twitter thank you for that um youtube is getting more and more questionable in terms of how it's treating me

01:00:29.980 so they've been doing some demonetizing but uh of my videos lately for reasons that they don't state

01:00:37.580 so it's always unstated now the things i'm talking about i'm pretty sure similar to what everybody's

01:00:44.620 talking about i don't think i've departed have i departed from i haven't violated any terms of service

01:00:53.980 ever not ever and i've never even had a warning do you know that that's worth mentioning i've never

01:01:03.020 had a warning on any social media platform because i'm really careful and and i actually uh i appreciate

01:01:11.340 the terms of service i'm glad there are terms of service and i am happy to stay within them you know

01:01:20.460 deal to deal if that's the deal that i signed up for yeah i'm happy to stay within the lines that's i i

01:01:26.620 it's not an accident that i've never had uh you know any any kind of official warning or anything um

01:01:34.860 however i don't know if i'm being shadow banned or throttled in some way because i can imagine that

01:01:43.740 advertisers do not love um content about the war even though 100 of the news is content about the war

01:01:53.180 so so but maybe maybe youtube has more options you know they don't have to sell advertising on war

01:01:59.660 content but it could be also that there's some part of my message that somebody doesn't like being out

01:02:06.060 i don't know which part in particular it does seem that no matter how many subscribers i have

01:02:13.820 on youtube my my revenue you know the part that's monetized based on advertising has stayed

01:02:20.940 almost the same no matter what the subscriber number is so i don't know it looks like i'm

01:02:28.860 being slowly forced down that's that's the impression i get i can't confirm that but the impression i get

01:02:36.300 is that i'm slowly being you know pushed down now i would go immediately to um

01:02:44.540 another platform um well i probably will as soon as i can get the

01:02:48.860 tech working the way i want so i'll probably at some point move to rumble um and off of youtube

01:02:59.020 at least for the live streams but we're not there yet look there's a little more tech work i think

01:03:03.900 that needs to be done to make that a smooth transition all right uh who's watching our southern border

01:03:12.540 well we've seem to have surrendered the southern border

01:03:17.580 yeah yeah i'm i'm

01:03:24.380 uh

01:03:25.260 kiss confirm you as both an israel hater and a palestinian 0.85

01:03:30.940 all right uh that's all for now ladies and gentlemen over on x and youtube i'm gonna say goodbye to you and

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Real Coffee with Scott Adams - October 14, 2023

Episode 2261 Scott Adams： Coffee With Scott 10⧸14⧸2023

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