Episode 2264 Scott Adams: CWSA 10⧸17⧸23
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Summary
In this episode of the podcast, we discuss President Donald Trump. We talk about his first visit to China, a car that comes flat packed and shipped to you in a bag, a new electric car, and a plan to make peace with North Korea.
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well let's uh mix things up a little bit today you're ready for some trouble anybody want some
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trouble i got some i'm gonna bring it to you right now but first these lesser important stories to
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get you all warmed up i need to flop you a little bit before we get to the good stuff
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so apparently ikea is going to make a car that comes flat packed so somehow they figured out to
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make a tiny little electric car you know it's not a tesla but you know even more like a golf cart
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and would cost less than eleven thousand dollars and it would be flat packed and shipped to somebody
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would assemble it for you do you think you would drive a uh a car at 55 miles per hour
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that could be flat packed i feel like if you hit something at 55 miles an hour
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there wouldn't be much left of you but suppose if you will
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that all of the traffic was by requirement self-driving
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well then it wouldn't matter too much what your car looked like because it would never
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it would never hit anything else it would know where everything else was and avoid but uh
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i like the fact that i keep trying this i don't know if it'll work wouldn't say that i want one
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but i like that they're trying it well trump is still pushing his uh freedom cities which i think is
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just one of the best ideas any president ever had am i all alone about this his idea is to use
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government land to uh bid it out to developers who want to build a city from scratch the idea is to
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make it a better city than a normal city because you design it right from the start but also that it
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would be affordable that ordinary people could afford to live there that's totally doable if
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you started from scratch with the idea of building a city that was better to live in than any city
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plus way way cheaper you could do that you could totally do that yeah there's nothing that would
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stop you from doing that so i like that idea i like it creates jobs i like that it might make
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housing more affordable for a lot of people it would spur innovation it would
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spur optimism it would become a model for other cities i tell you whenever real estate is involved
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trump excels am i right wherever real estate is involved he's always really good
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and this freedom city stuff is just perfect this is an idea that just couldn't be any better
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it's just a perfect idea it's like his perfect phone call but think of the other things he does
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that are real estate related no new wars were started during trump's administration no new wars
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what are wars wars are always real estate like that the reason given you know such as hamas might be
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more about just killing people they want to kill but at the at the bottom of everything is real estate
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so he not only ends the war by effectively being good at real estate i guess uh but he could build
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these freedom cities and i know he's really good at real estate he he also used the same plan to make
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peace with north korea do you remember when he was talking to kim jong well actually before he visited him
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the first time uh his administration created a video of how they could develop north korea
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and they could you know build these nice buildings there and maybe even maybe even american investment
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etc so he used a real estate argument to make peace with north korea
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he just sees real estate wherever he goes and apparently it works anyway um
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i love the freedom cities so president she met with putin putin traveled to china
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and i took a careful note um you can you can stop doing the reframe i saw it um
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i took careful note of the body language have you ever noticed that when people meet president
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she he looks like he doesn't want to be there and he has he has heartburn
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a very is is usually his eyes are kind of closed and he's got the heartburn face and he's he just sort
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of wishes he weren't there sort of thing they just sort of wish i was somewhere else but when uh putin
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showed up i looked at his body language it was completely inclusive he looked like he actually
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enjoys his company like he did not look like it was a state visit they look like buddies now putin
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didn't he seemed more nervous because he was in a he wasn't on his home court so he seemed a little more
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formal but she looked like hey my best friend just came to visit it honestly looked like his college
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roommate came to see him or something so if you're worried about that association maybe that's a little
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more worrying all right here's a story that i don't believe yet i guess this was in the daily mail
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you've seen this story before but the fact that it's again in the news doesn't make me believe it
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more and the idea is that the biggest cartel has banned their own organization from selling fentanyl
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now they also have said that they were never in the fentanyl business to begin with
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so that so this uh the cartel this is el chapo's cartel sinaloa have said two things one we've never
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been in that fentanyl business whatsoever in any way two we're totally getting out of the fentanyl
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a business and it will kill you if you try to sell any and then there are stories that they
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actually killed some of their own people who tried to sell fentanyl i don't know if i believe any of
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that do you does that sound like a real story like whatever is real is probably three layers below this
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you know that there might be some kind of weird agreement to go easy on one cartel
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if they help us take down the other cartels you know i've often thought if i were in charge
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i would get the head of one of the cartels el chapo and i'd make a deal say look we're just going to
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keep crushing just your cartel nobody else's we're going to put all of our attention just crushing your
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cartel unless unless you'd like to flip get out of the get out of the fentanyl business completely
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maybe i mean it might be the best you can do because you probably can't get them totally out of
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business that seems unlikely but you can maybe cut it down to just cocaine cocaine and weed and
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meth and then it's not as bad as fentanyl so maybe something like that's happened we have
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no visibility on it whatsoever well starbucks in san francisco is closing seven stores
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the company declined to provide comment as to whether it was crime related
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uh let me let me see if i can piece this together
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a san francisco starbucks closed what would be all the possible reasons for that
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well one would be unprofitable do you believe there's ever been an unprofitable starbucks
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in san francisco do you think that's happened even once in the history of starbucks
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somebody says yes maybe unprofitable well unprofitable because of crime
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maybe but not unprofitable because people don't want to buy expensive coffee in san francisco
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that's not a thing so san francisco continues its decline toward an agrarian situation
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have you seen all the video changing the topic now going from one hellscape to another
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we'll go from san francisco to gaza have you seen all the video of the the gaza attacks
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the the new ones i'm talking about the ones in the last 24 hours have you seen them
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nope no you haven't you haven't seen any attacks no you've seen old ones you might have seen a still
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picture that was taken who knows where but nope you are not going to see any video of whatever is
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happening in gaza now you knew that was coming right not just because it's war but because it's a war
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in which the hearts and minds are such a big part of the story so yeah you're not going to you're not
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going to see anything you might see some stuff snuck out and then you're going to wonder if it's real
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somebody very nicely sent me on x this morning probably the most disturbing image i've ever seen in my life
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like scarred for life kind of image now i wish they hadn't but i looked at it and i said to myself
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how do i know that came out of gaza how would i know it was just a picture of the most horrible
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thing i've ever seen in my life but i don't know where it came from so i blocked the person who said it
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this seems like the least important story in the world doesn't it we're watching the world explode
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in the middle east and ukraine and and all that but uh it turns out do you remember the
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narratives that we were told about biden's boxes so you had the trump boxes which were oh big problem
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you know talking about the mar-a-lago boxes that's uh secret stuff in it oh those were some bad boxes
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we're not sure but probably nuclear submarine stuff you know maybe space laser stuff i mean he had the
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good secrets and and i'll tell you not only did he have the really dangerous secrets but he was
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showing them to people who visited oh look the bad stuff he was doing and uh and he was trying to hide
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from the prosecutors like moving it around and lying and trying to keep stuff oh he did everything wrong
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oh my god now if you compare that to the moment the moment that biden found out he had some boxes in
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his garage that didn't belong there turned it in reported it cooperated and and just the contrast was
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so huge you know one probably some kind of criminal trying to get away with stuff the other innocent
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mistake an innocent mistake quickly corrected and probably nothing in those boxes to worry about
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anyway well enter jonathan turley to inform us that it turns out there might be a little bit of
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question on that biden box timeline situation it might be that on a number of occasions they've been
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relocated it might be that a lot of them were in one place and then they were doled out to different
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locations such as the penn center in different houses which would suggest a long knowledge that
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they existed and decision making about which parts went where over a long period of time
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that's right there's a little more to the story jonathan turley can tell you just google him and
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biden's boxes it'll pop right up but it was all the whole oh oh we didn't know we had some boxes i
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guess we better turn these in right away oh and by the way have you heard this speculation about the
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secrets that are in biden's boxes because i've heard lots of speculation about what was in trump's boxes
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why no speculation about biden's boxes maybe nuclear secrets what about all the nuclear secrets are they
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only in trump's boxes nothing is true the the news is just completely made up it's just all
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bullshit top to bottom biden's boxes all right uh bill maher i think it was on friday on his show
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was talking about the the word colonizer he was talking about how the uh the hamas is calling the uh
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residents of israel colonizers but and i think he was quite cognizant of the fact that if you're
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calling somebody a colonizer you're kind of marking them for bad treatment like nobody likes a colonizer
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although he was making the point which is that the hamas would think that jews anywhere in the world
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are colonizers so there does seem to be a question about how much of the hamas palestinian
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israel's situation is about real estate because there are smart people who say no no scott it's not
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about real estate you have to understand that one group wants the other group dead
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but would they want them dead if there had never been a dispute about real estate
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in other words are the uyghurs you know also that they want to kill the vietnamese who've never
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left vietnam are they colonizers or does hamas say oh you know all those uh svi lankans we got to get
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them next those colonizers i don't think so so i don't think you can separate real estate from the
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hatred you know i think it's all one big ball so to say it's either just hate or it's just real estate
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both wrong it's some kind of weird mix of those two things and other things too
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but i would like to point out as many times as i need to that if you're in america and some american
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is calling you a colonizer that person it's a prelude to violence um have i ever told you
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that the thoughts turn into words words turn into action i didn't make that up that's an old saying
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um so if people have already turned their thoughts into this word colonizer colonizer suggests a specific
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set of future actions right it's not a general word that hey anything could happen once you said
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colonizer is your point of view that does narrow what you imagine are the acceptable ways to go
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forward and i wouldn't want to be around anybody like that so get some distance between yourself and
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any people who are talking those terms and use words like colonizer which is the c word for white
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people like it's the n word for white people basically with a c um here's here's a story
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that's just blowing my mind like if i didn't know the people involved i would say this was fake news
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right but this is uh candace owens i consider her a high credibility she's telling about her own
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experience right so it's unlikely this is wrong so just hold in your head that this is a real thing
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that happened in the real world i'll just read it this is candace owens two years ago i enrolled in
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an online course at ucla law i kid you not when i say my final exam essay was to argue against project
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veritas by representing the arguments of the new york times in their ongoing defamation case
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for weekly extra credit in this class we were encouraged to show proof of attending various
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social justice events imagine attending a protest for extra credit uh candace says i declined to
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attend these events but i am sharing this experience now to underscore just how severe the indoctrination
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has become i had no idea like as bad as you think it might be you don't really realize it's gone to this
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level i mean i just really i had no idea um so professors are literally offering to improve your
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grade if you attend a protest or get involved in a variety of their left-leaning causes now that doesn't
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quite seem like education does it that that just feels like pure indoctrination it's just propaganda and
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and programming um and it gets worse in the same class the assigned textbook stated that donald trump
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gassed protesters on his way to visit the church during the blm riots that's one of the most famous
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debunked hoaxes it's it's in a textbook have you heard me say a whole bunch of times
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how would anybody write the history of the last seven years how would you do it because there are
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two completely different histories if you've lived through the last seven years you know that there
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are two histories and they don't match so if you're going to write a history book there's no way in the
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world you can combine them because they they're just totally incompatible and there's no way you can pick
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one of them because one of them's going to be bullshit and the other one who knows maybe that
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one's bullshit too but we have this entirely fake history so we can guarantee not just wonder but you
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can guarantee that the time you live through your own life will be recorded as fake history in other
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words there'll be a fake version that doesn't match what you actually live through and that will be taught
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to the kids and grandkids and that's a done deal i'm not saying that we must worry about this
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happening i'm saying it's done history has been erased and replaced by bullshit probably always has been
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probably always has been all right uh mike cernovich gives a warning that
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so i'm going to scare the shit out of you by just quoting okay so cernovich posted this today
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uh it was in response to candace's thing that i just read he said yep these are going to be law
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clerks for federal judges we won't have a functioning legal system within 10 years maybe five i've told
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every conservative i know to make sure their kids have been taken care of financially and be prepared
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he is completely right the way things are heading and i don't see anything that's going to change it
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right away conservatives will just be arrested for made-up charges because all it takes is that there
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would be enough people of a particular point of view to be in the right jobs and there's nobody to overturn
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it so if you got the da well you're okay if the judge is on your side you know the judge is not too
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woke that might correct it but what if the da and the local politicians and the judges are all the same
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point of view how can you possibly have anything like justice you wouldn't expect it so the certification
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say you could get to the point where um people are essentially hunted for with lawfare now that is my
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biggest concern at the moment that i'll be charged with something fake and i don't think there's a defense
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against it in today's world i believe if you get charged in the right place and i live in a place where
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i've got a soros prosecutor in my county i'm thinking of moving just for that reason it's the most
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dangerous risk i have is being in the same jurisdiction with a soros prosecutor am i wrong i think it's
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by far yeah the odds of me dying in a natural disaster in california
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0.001 right like hardly worth thinking about the odds of me being arrested by a soros prosecutor on a
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pretty good it is well over ten percent i don't know what it is but it's well over ten percent
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all right um there's a story about this cornell professor who said that he when he watched the
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hamas attacks he felt exhilarated and energized by what he called this challenge to the monopoly
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of power now that's being interpreted as he was energized and exhilarated by the murder of innocent
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people um he didn't say that exactly but he didn't say he was mad about it you know if he didn't mean
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it it would have been a good time to say i'm not talking about the innocent people being slaughtered
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or something like that but he didn't which suggests that he didn't care too much about it he might have
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cared more about what he felt was some rebalance of power that he thought was important i think he's
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still employed cornell is a place i almost went to college almost went to college there and
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i would be pretty embarrassed if i had i'm sure my own college wasn't do it isn't doing much better
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all right um you heard that hillary clinton said she wants to uh deprogram anyone who quote
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worships at the altar of mega so hillary wants to deprogram conservatives what do you think of that
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is that a good idea or a bad idea because she's talking about the tour who who have a cult-like
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um belief in trump cult-like i'm all for it are you against it why would you be against that
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if she can find anybody who has a cult-like uh following of trump they should get deprogrammed
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i've never met one have you have you ever met somebody who had a cult-like belief in trump
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i've never seen it there are people who love the show and there are people like the politics you
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know they like the show and they like you know his policies and they think he did a good job but i
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i don't think i've met anybody who to me looked like they're somehow hypnotized so if she wants to
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find people that she thinks are hypnotized and deprogram them go ahead i don't think she'll find
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anybody i mean it's not it wasn't a real suggestion right however i do think that the world has reached
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the point where deprogramming our fellow citizens is a requirement for survival
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it used to be that we were all uh crazy little people in tribes and if you did some crazy stuff
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in your tribe the worst worst that could happen is your tribe dies and all the other tribes are
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doing fine they don't even know you're gone didn't even have communication but given that people can
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communicate instantly and infect other people with their ideas and given that an individual can destroy
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you know a gigantic building in a major city or you know do all kinds of damage given that individuals
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have so much power for destruction we're gonna have to start deprogramming people i don't think it's
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optional do you you you get that we're reaching a point where it won't be optional we have to deprogram
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the dangerous people they just will have too much access to firepower that what what else can you do
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now here's a little wild card however good humans are at programming people
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ai is going to be better not right away i don't think it's there yet but ai can learn all the rules
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of persuasion and just start reprogramming people assuming that they use the internet now it would require
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the right you know collection of ai and uh um platforms and governments to make sure that the
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right things are happening and that's a big if but in theory ai could look at the problems of people
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disagreeing and could create something like a deprogramming subroutine and it could deprogram
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anybody so it wouldn't just be you know woke people on the left and it wouldn't just be hamas
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it could be some people on the right that you don't think there's some people on the right who
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need to be deprogrammed right now i'm not gonna i'm not gonna start a big fight and tell you that the
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people who believed in q should have been reprogrammed but it would have been interesting to see if they'd
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gone through a course that tried to do it would it change their minds or would the instructor become a
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q believer one of those two things might happen so i'm not going to say that the reprogramming
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applies to only one side but there is a there's a big qualitative difference in in how the brainwashing
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is done on both sides so there are differences however i thought that i would create for you
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a deprogramming course which i just posted on the x platform it's the first draft
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people and let me tell you what's on all right so it's pretty long just the first draft now the first
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draft is just bullet points right so there's no chapters or anything like it's just a bunch of
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bullet points sort of organized a little bit into categories but let me tell you what the categories
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would be so this would be a a college course to deprogram
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people would have been let's say too woke or believe what the democrats are feeding
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and again democrats are not the only people feeding bullshit to their people
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i'll say that a hundred times because you need to hear that right we're all subject to being programmed
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by our own team far more than we're programmed by the other team so here are the things i would put on
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a course to deprogram somebody i first have a reading list and i would include my books god's debris
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and win bigly god's debris because it if you haven't read it you will understand this but
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it's basically just a mind opener it doesn't try to tell you what's true or even what's false
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it's just a fiction and it's just to open your mind so i would use that as my first book and people
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would say oh that's not true that thing in that book was wrong and i would say it's just fiction
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it's just so you can imagine things being different than your normal view that's all
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it's just opening your imagination then win bigly um is a story about trump's persuasion game so you
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can learn about persuasion that's being applied by everybody all the time but you can also get a
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different view of trump that's opposite of the he's a monster just so you see it you don't have to
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believe it you just have to see what other people say or how they see the same situation
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i would also want to add to my reading list books that debunk hoaxes because there are probably a
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number of them i think cheryl actinson probably has a book on that um so i picked the first the best
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one or two books that show how many hoaxes the country has been subjected to because you want to
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give somebody an idea that this has always been true i'd want something that talked about project
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mockingbird so you can know that the cia once had a mission to program the country and then i would
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tell them about how uh there was a law against that at one point so the law changed they couldn't do that
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and then obama i believe changed the law back so they could and then what we observe appears to be a
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massive influence campaign by our own intelligence people now i don't know if it is but if i were
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training people i would tell them it used it used to be done so we know it can be done and there's a
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reason to do it then it was illegal now it's legal again what do you think is happening yeah do you think
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he made it legal so that nobody would do anything differently he made it legal so they would do it
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you know it's specifically to make sure that it could be done so of course it's being done can you
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spot it well that would be part of the class so i would also give them uh a list of what i call the
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alleged disinformation spreaders or you could call them just the team players the people who are not
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trying to inform you of both sides of anything these are just people who you could reliably assume
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are giving you one narrative you know their team narrative and some of them would just be pure
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liars all right so i'm not going to just distinguish on this list the pure liars from the people who are
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just narrative masters you know they're going to give you their view but here are the ones that you
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should at least have a little flag that goes up now i should do this for the political right
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probably will but at the moment these are names on the left that are just a pure signal for fake
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news all right i'll just read you the names and again this is alleged and just being a team player
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doesn't mean you're breaking any laws just means that you should take anything they say with a grain of
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soul adam schiff eric swalwell and by the way if there's any name on this list you don't recognize
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that's a problem that's a problem because you might run into them and read their stuff
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and say well that's a credible person no all right um john brennan james clapper lawrence tribe
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do you recognize the names every one of them you should not believe a word they say
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which is not to say everything they say is wrong but they have the lowest credibility of anybody in
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the news here's some more uh jonathan greenblatt the adl abby phillips max boot general hayden
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dan goldman jamie raskin dean obadiah stephen colson john avalon those are cnn people
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uh glenn kessler phil bump jennifer rubin now before any of them sue me this is an opinion
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based on observation all right that these are the people you could trust the least on the left
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i could absolutely make the same list on the right would you all agree well you're not going to fight
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me on that right i can make the same list same length on the right all right i haven't done it
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because i'm just trying to make this one go down well but i probably should i should all right yeah
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and i would make a i would make a distinction between the let's say the uh you know the john avalon
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stephen collinsons and the hannity's they're sort of in the same business they're more narrative people
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but that's different from somebody who will look you in the eye and just lie that is different right
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i i have no reason to believe that several of these people would have looked you in the eye and just lie
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but they're definitely going to leave stuff out and spin and create a narrative all right what else i
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would teach people in this class the dog not barking rule so instead of just looking at the news they
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would always ask shouldn't there be something in the news that's not being mentioned and then teach
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them the importance of the dog not barking right why is this all being ignored right why are we not
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looking at this it's a very important lesson i would teach them about words which words are uh the
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dangerous persuasive words like patriarchy colonizer mega extremist cult member you hear any of those
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words and somebody's got violence on their mind that's important to know all right um then i would
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also teach them how to identify fake news so i just first draft i put it into three categories things
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that are probably true maybe a 50 50 and things that are probably fake and then other things are pure
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propaganda all right so just quickly uh these are things which are probably true so these were the tells
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for something probably true not guaranteed but probably um if one of the sides is telling you
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the story the left or the right news and the other side is completely ignoring it it's probably true
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because if it were not true the other side would debunk it if you see a claim and then they debunk well
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you're not really sure what's true and that could work in either direction one side makes a claim the
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other one debunks it and could go either way but if one makes a claim shows their evidence and the other
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side treats it like no news happened it's probably true because there's a that's the dog not barking
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there's a reason that's being ignored because it's not convenient all right um if both sides report the
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same thing as true it's probably true right if they both said there was a hurricane there was probably
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hurricane um if all the studies forever have pointed in the same direction no matter how you do the study
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that's probably true i i doubt there are many i don't think there are too many studies
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that show you that smoking cigarettes is good for your health probably not i mean within the last
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i don't know 30 years so that's probably true everything points in one direction um i like
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whenever science matches my own observations i'm more likely to think it's true it doesn't guarantee it
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but at least that's two things going for it the science plus your own observation
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um if if there's one narrative that predicts better than the other that's probably true so if you got
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the left and right you have different narratives you know a story of how to understand something
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well if one of them predicts oh these people say for example uh one narrative is that hamas
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wants real estate so they would like some real estate in israel
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but the other the other narrative might be that they want to kill all jews and the real estate part is
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more incidental to the the big plan well predict if it's about real estate the prediction would be
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that they would negotiate some kind of uh access real estate right of return maybe give up something to
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get it but if they just want to kill jews then you would see something like what just happened
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so which one predicted better it's pretty clear in this case all right um so a few other things on
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there witnesses etc here's some coin flips if you see one scientific paper that hasn't been peer reviewed
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maybe yes maybe no probably a little less than a coin flip that is true what if it's one scientific
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paper and it has been peer reviewed exactly the same the peer review adds nothing in the modern world
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the peer review has no value at all just discount it so one scientific paper you don't really know
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what about a meta analysis where they looked at a whole bunch of studies none of those studies were
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great but you know they looked at them all to see what the overall is nope you can fake
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meta studies too easily they're they're not science or bullshit about uh if there's a video or audio of
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the event you could actually see it with your own eyes is it true you're seeing it with your own eyes
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you're listening to it it's about 50 50 if it's political there's about a 50 chance it was taken
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out of context and now you have to add that it might be a deep fake might not even be real people
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uh things that are probably fake so if you didn't know anything else but these things you would say
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hmm it's probably fake there's a lot of money involved
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climate change wars everything here about anything that has a lot of money involved we're not talking
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about a little money we're talking about a lot of money that stuff's usually fake because the people
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who have a lot of money involved can pay to make some fake news appear they can fund a fake study
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they can uh create a fake um what do you call it a uh think tank they can create a fake uh fact
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checking group they can create a fake watchdog group so if there's enough money going around
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they can make anything that's fake look true so money is a very strong signal for not true
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um what if neither cnn nor fox news report it because neither of them think it's true
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is it true neither fox news nor cnn they both say it's not true probably not true yeah no guarantees
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these are just working with statistics if you had one anonymous source is it true no if you have two
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anonymous sources is it true no no two anonymous sources is just like one it means nothing there's no
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evidentiary value of an anonymous source in politics is most likely not true if you hear that there are
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sources like that um how about a witness under oath who's reporting was somebody else saw or heard
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so there's a witness under oath who says something like i didn't see the ufos myself
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but i definitely talked to the people who did is it true no it's never true no no i i shouldn't say
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never you know maybe but no don't believe anything like that being under oath that means nothing
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if you're talking about what somebody else told you there's no value to be under oath
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how about there are only fuzzy photos and videos and that's the best you can do
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no it's not true about uh a randomized controlled trial a randomized controlled trial
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is that going to be valid depends who funded it yeah depends who funded it so probably not
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probably not how about a a randomized controlled trial uh with the funding is unknown so you don't
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know who funded it nope i'm not going to believe that either i don't know who funded it it has no
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evidentiary value whatsoever um what if one side says it's true and the other side says it isn't
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is it true or not true cnn or fox news and you could reverse them it could be either way one
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says it's true and the other says it's not true probably not true more likely not true um
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what if it's a story about a public figure is it true or not true
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never never true but stories about public figures always leave out the important context always yeah
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if you don't know that everything looks weird they don't even do a story about a political figure
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unless there's a way they can distort it to make it interesting
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all right how about uh if the story is new and breaking in the context of a war
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so let's say there's a fresh war and some news comes out is it true nope nope yeah the only thing
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that might be true is that one group of people is attacking another group of people that might be true
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but almost every other anecdote video story data statistics in the in the heat of war none of that's true
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it's just all bullshit um and then there's the uh pure propaganda uh these are the ones where
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for example when context is intentionally omitted i always tell you about the one where somebody will
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give you a raw number but not tell you if that's a big percentage that's propaganda and the reverse they
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tell you the percentage of something but they for some weird reason they leave out the raw number
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that's propaganda the only way you can understand a thing is to know both the raw numbers and the
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percentage if anybody's down one or the other that's not news that's propaganda all right
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uh if somebody uses analogies instead of an argument that's propaganda and it goes like this uh those
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maggot people are basically like hitler in 1939 that's always propaganda right it's just something
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reminding you of something that you turned into hyperbole that's not real how about which sources to trust
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this one's tough but people need to know that the news isn't real and i worry that they do like i i
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always talk about my smart democrat friend i'm positive he believes that the new york times and the
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washington post and cnn are telling him real news i think he actually believes that now i think a lot of
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the country does because if you'd never been exposed to how many stories or just were obviously fake
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how would you know and the people on the right hear those stories about you know the debunkings the
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corrections the you know the obvious um planted by some intelligence or fbi or something we hear that
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all the time if you're watching all the news but if you're only watching the sources that produce it
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they'll tell you the real news how do you know the difference so anybody who's got raised on what
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they thought was real news probably thinks it still exists except they're pretty sure the other side is
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fake i'll tell you anybody who says the news that they're reading is the real stuff and and the stuff
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the other people is reading is fake they're lost that's as lost as you can be that's maximum
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lost once you get to the point where you don't believe anything and your best bet is to look for
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these tells and signals and then you're also looking for you know both stories you've got a chance
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but no if you're only looking at one side you don't have a chance uh then i would look i would
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teach people the tricks you know the trick about the headline that doesn't match the story how many
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times have we seen that the headline will say something like uh republican slaughters a group of
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people with his car you're like oh my god a republican slaughtered a bunch of people with his car
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and you read the story it's like he's a race car driver and he won the race he slaughtered all the
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other competitors you're like whoa i thought he killed people now i made that one up that's not real
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but the point is that the headlines will be provocative and then you read the story and
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often in the last paragraph it will completely debunk its own story it's a very common political
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story to do that um then there's a trick where you just do some fake news everybody gets excited about
00:47:25.440
it then you print a correction oops it was wrong and one percent of the people who saw the fake news
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will ever know that you corrected it they'll just never see it so you bury the correction
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uh you teach him the nancy pelosi wrap-up smear and and basically the way that you use the news
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to support your lies so the way that works i think i have this right so a politician will tell a lie
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to a person in the press oh this thing is true the press will say i've got a secret source
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and they'll print the story and then the person who created the story will point to the news and say
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hey don't believe me believe the news hey but you wouldn't know that it's only in the news because
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that person you're talking to put it there and that they've got a friendly reporter who's willing to
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believe them without too much proof or willing to play along and just do fake news so if you don't
00:48:25.920
know that that's a thing that the politicians get the reporters to report things anonymously
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so that the politician can say it's true because it's in the news if you if you're unaware of that
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trick you're really going to be lost again the news is going to be confusing but once you know that trick
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yeah you can spot it all right um and then i would do the hoax quiz you've all seen
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where i've got all the the trump hoaxes and teach people how those hoaxes were done and then i would
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also teach them the tells for cognitive dissonance which are if you're having a discussion with somebody
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and you've made a good point if they counter your point well they might have a good argument but if
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they do one of these things that i'm going to tell you they're they're already in cognitive dissonance
00:49:14.400
and there's nothing you can do it means that they're having a psychological event they're no
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longer in the debate one of them is a quick change of topic well that's a tell all right if you can't
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even stay on the topic it means you lost it uh ad hominid attack you make a good point and the person
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says well you stupid mega mega i'm like what i just made a point that's based on data that you can
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check yourself oh you maggots you maggots believe everything uh then there's the mind reading
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the mind reading oh yeah i know what you're really thinking and what you're really thinking is and
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there's something you're not thinking and nobody would ever think yeah the the crazy mind reading
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that's a tell the word salad where they just started saying words but you listen you're like i'm not
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even sure any of that made sense that's that's a tell people the people who resort to an analogy
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and try to sell you that since the analogy is something we all understand that that tells you
00:50:20.080
something about a completely different situation it doesn't it's just a thing that reminded you of it
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if you accept if you accept their frame you're an idiot never discussed an analogy do you know what i
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do when somebody says well but what about this and they give some analogy i say well that's a good
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story about a completely different situation do you have an agreement that applies to what we're
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talking about never engage an analogy best advice i'll ever give you as soon as you see the analogy
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say no it's just a different situation i don't really want to talk about all the ways it's different
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but if you could defend this situation with actual reasons that'd be great um there are other the the
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things that are too complicated to explain oh i could i we could talk all day but it's too complicated
00:51:12.080
you'll never get it that's sort of a tell and the the so tell so you're saying that pigs can fly
00:51:22.480
no no i didn't say anything like that so you're saying that cars don't have engines no no i didn't say
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that so you're saying that clouds don't exist in the sky no no i'm not saying any of that you know the
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the jordan peterson thing anyway this is the first draft of a uh course for correcting
00:51:48.720
um for deprogramming somebody's been programmed and yes it could be done to the left and the right
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now here's why it should be done at the moment we we talk about the other side needing to be
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deprogrammed right blah blah blah do you see it do you see my blah blah blah if my hand were not going
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blah blah blah there'd be no visual to the story right there's no visual there's also no fear
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right you've got this general sense that it would be better if people had you know access to real
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news but you're not afraid of it like you're going to run away so your two biggest tools of persuasion
00:52:33.360
are not available to you it's not a so scary somebody has to run away and do something right away
00:52:39.440
and there's no visual element to it it's just this idea that people should be deprogrammed
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and that's why there needs to be an actual entity ideally a physical location you know ideally but
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that that's a lot to ask but at the very least there should be a book or a course guide you should
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be able to put a picture of the course guide on the x platform and say hey if you want to see if you
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need to be deprogrammed here's the guide check it out see see how many hoaxes you believe in now
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that's why the the um the hoax quiz that i created has been so successful how many of you have seen my
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hoax quiz um on a platform somewhere most of you i think most of you have seen it right and the reason
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you've seen it is because it's portable it's really easy to take a screenshot i made i made sure it
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wasn't so long that it's like multiple pages it's like just nice tight little list and the fact that
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i made it physical is what made it visual so it's not just that there are a bunch of things that are
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questionable it's that you can see them on a list you can you look at them so this idea of deprogramming
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the left or deprogramming hamas or whoever you think needs to be deprogrammed you need to turn it into
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an actual product it's got to be a document or a building or there has to be a professor you know
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an actual class with a time a location and a technique once you get that going then you can have a real
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conversation about how programmed we are as opposed to making good decisions so i don't think it needs
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to be a book if it's book size nobody's going to read it that's that's the trouble you're not going
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to get anybody if it's book size all right here's a few other things uh there's a trump gag order
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federal judge tanya chuck in so it's a tailored big gag order for trump so he's not allowed to
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disparage witnesses prosecutors or court employees
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use now the trouble would be as someone i think the editorial board at the wall street journal pointed
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out imagine if uh trump got in a debate with mike pence because mike pence is a witness to the january
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six stuff you wouldn't be able to criticize mike pence because the court wouldn't let him
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he would anyway i'm sure but and now that's probably not going to be not going to come up
00:55:34.320
but you don't think trump should be able to criticize his his uh opponents in an election
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so uh i've seen some people uh helpfully suggest that they should violate the order and go to jail
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but that's easy for you to say it it's easy for us to be sitting here and say you know what
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you know what would be a good strategy for someone else if they would go to jail but just for a little
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while no that's not a good strategy for other people i mean it might happen but you don't want to
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make that happen nobody wants to spend a night in jail just to get a little more power i mean i don't
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think trump does although it would give him more power so um i believe this will help him and you know
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the the thing that would help trump the most would be if somebody put a gag order on him that he couldn't
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say anything about the election ever right into office because you know 95 of trump's risk
00:56:40.160
is whatever he says between now and election day am i right 95 of his risk is what he says
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between now and election day because that's what they'll be attacking
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in my opinion trump has brilliantly stayed under the provocation line and it looks intentional
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because he knows how to provoke we all know that he knows where the line is and he knows what is
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too far he's going up to the line but he's not crossing it and that appears to be a brilliant
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political strategy because the thing that people you know worry the most about him is that he goes too far
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like he's he's the goes too far guy so if he's if he gives you a solid year of not going too far
00:57:33.120
you're going to say to yourself oh i get it it was always optional and when it worked he went too far
00:57:39.120
because it got him attention but when the going too far caused more trouble than it was solving
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he pulled it back now that would be a big confidence builder even for the people on the right to see
00:57:51.840
that he can moderate because they're not so sure he can moderate they feel like he's just crazy guy
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doing crazy stuff that is so not what who he is he's very very strategic even with the provocative
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stuff very strategic so it would help a lot the people who are worried about him to just see him
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you know be somewhere closer to the middle in terms of his provocations
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but of course he he's he's always provocative all right uh lakers uh ex-player rick fox
00:58:29.200
he's uh working with some company that's building houses and of concrete that can suck the co2 right
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out of the atmosphere so there's a kind of concrete that will absorb co2 into it as opposed to producing
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more co2 than the concrete sucks so i don't think that's going to be the big solution to anything
00:58:48.400
but there it is so it's kind of interesting now how many of you follow steve molloy
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uh at junk science so he questions climate change mostly uh i swear it is so interesting following his
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account because it's a whole parallel world in which everything's opposite
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and i don't i don't know if he's right or wrong i just don't have the qualifications to do it but
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i'll tell you what i think i know what i think i know is that he uses only the government's own data
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so when he makes a claim about the temperature has or has not changed or a claim about the co2 levels
00:59:32.320
my understanding is he's using only official government data and then he shows it to you in
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a variety of ways to show you that there's no relationship between co2 and temperature historically
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now that's not my claim i'm telling you that he's using official data he's showing his work and he's
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saying look for yourself now his claim would be that there hasn't been any identifiable warming in
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quite a few recent years so that's claim number one um but also even more provocative is the claim
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that the data shows clearly that temperature goes first and then co2 goes up with temperature so it's
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not temperature it's not co2 causing temperature it's temperature causing co2 because when you look
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at the data you can see that the temperature went up before the co2 now that's the claim that's not my claim
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it's the claim now what do you think are the odds that the entire scientific community
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industry didn't notice that the causation was backwards is that possible the entire industry
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not noticing that the correlation was backwards
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every day almost i didn't do it today almost every day well i guess this is the example i tell
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you about a scientific study that appears to have causation backwards and obviously so like obviously
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right it's stuff like uh people who went to jail become criminals and i'll be like well i think
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wasn't it the crime that made them go to jail like isn't that obvious and you know there's never been
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a study that says that exact thing that was just an example but if with no scientific evan uh background
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whatsoever i can look at the news about studies and to me they look backwards they all look backwards
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the most famous one is that uh moderate moderate alcohol use made you healthier day one i said uh
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that's backwards correlation the people who can afford daily light drinking and are not alcoholics
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that's a whole separate category but if you could afford to have a bottle of wine every day
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and you're not an alcoholic you just like having wine with dinner what does that say about you
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well it says you you know how to moderate number one right if you did nothing but put the people
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who know how to moderate anything in their life they know how to quit that group is always going to be
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healthier than the other groups it's obvious yeah they're the richer richer people live longer and
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are healthier they have better health care etc and being able to afford wine with dinner is clearly
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correlated with you know doing well so if you and i can see example after example where it appears
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don't know for sure but it looks like they got the causation backwards and obviously so
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you don't think they that the entire industry could get climate change backwards
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i'm not saying they have because it's a data argument and i don't believe any data
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but it's absolutely easily possible it is easily possible
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so that's why i love the uh the steve molloy stuff because he's using their own data and he shows you
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his work well what else do you ask for is there something else you want it's about all you can do
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and it's like he's out there yelling all by himself because there aren't a lot of people who are you
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know echoing his same point of view or at least not you know in an official capacity so that's interesting
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what about this question of why nobody wants the palestinian refugees now you've heard that the
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neighboring countries don't want to let them in uh but they don't give reasons now i assume the reasons
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are obvious right because they have uh mindsets that would cause trouble so it's not because they're
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islamic obviously because the countries involved are also islamic so they have no problem with the
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religion there must be something about the specific way this group of people were uh let's say brainwashed
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and here's the reframe that i think could change everything i don't think it will but but you know
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we're all desperate for just a different way to look at the situation that they could give you some kind of
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alternate path because all the paths that we can think of are terrible here's the alternate path
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if somebody if somebody went let's say to war and they came back with ptsd would you ignore it
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or would you treat it like a mental problem a mental disorder well i would say that that's a health
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problem and a big one right if somebody had trauma in their childhood of any other kind and it seemed
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to be affecting them in their adult life is that somebody who has a mental disorder i would say so
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so they start with a perfectly healthy brain so we're not talking about anybody's genetic makeup right
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that's nothing to do with your genes uh you could just be a victim of trauma and it changes your brain
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well to me it seems that the uh palestinians are not only victims of a certain kind of trauma
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right because you know that they have a a certain narrative that's been given to them that they're
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victims and then a certain lifestyle which is suboptimal so they're feeling maybe physical stress of
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having a tough life on top of that the mental stress that somebody's doing it to you intentionally
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and maybe you should you know get back at them so i would treat the palestinians and we're not
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talking about hamas only hamas probably just needs to be killed i'm talking about the palestinians who
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largely have similar thoughts to hamas except not uh operational like they're not going to do anything
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about it but they might just sympathize with the general approach but maybe not the specific killing that they
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do if you were to bring those people into your country you'd be importing mental illness
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at a scale we've never seen now do i think that the people coming across our southern border
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have mental illness well some probably do because it's a big population but i don't think that's why
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they're coming and i would say that most of them are just had tough lives which gives you a little
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trauma but it's the kind of trauma that tough people can get past and by the time you make it all the way
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here you're pretty tough right so i'm not really worried that people coming across our southern border
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have some kind of mental defect like that's a whole different problem they're they're just
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you know you know what the problems are but with the palestinians i would treat it like a mental problem
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and the way you would treat it um if we're mental and i and specifically it's like a mind virus
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because you can actually transmit it you could teach kids to think the same way and feel the same trauma
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and they would end up with ptsd too because they would interpret everything as somebody else's
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you know cause so that they would feel like victims and i'm not saying they're not victims
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they do look pretty much like victims but um if we were to treat them compassionately
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what what would you do if your only goal was compassion you would number one keep them where
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they are that'd be number one because you wouldn't want them to take their mental illness
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into the rest of your population right has nothing to do with the religion has nothing to do with their
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genes or even culture per se because there are lots of cultures where they're not violent
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but they're otherwise similar so it's about the specific teaching that's happening there
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this specific narrative and that's a mental virus i would i would isolate it first but of course you
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would do everything you could to make their life comfortable but then you would absolutely have to
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deprogram them you would have to deprogram before you allowed them into polite civilization now i would
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say the same thing about our college students you've seen that uh college students in america
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are being uh they're they're mentally unwell because they've been damaged by a certain kind of training
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that is guaranteed to make you mentally incompetent it'll make you believe things that aren't true
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and see and see uh oppression where it doesn't exist or at least put too much attention on it etc
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so i think that what we need is something like what i just described as a deprogramming course
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so that if somebody came to me and said i'd like a job with you uh i have all these qualifications and
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i have a degree from harvard or berkeley i want to be able to say to them have you been through the
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deprogramming course and if they have and if they can show me that they have i would actually hire them
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even if they had views i didn't like because i would say if you took that seriously and you actually
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went through that i can respect that right i would be willing to hire somebody under those conditions
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but if somebody just came right out of one of those institutions i'd be very hesitant to mix them
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with my staff who are not mentally ill so we need to we need a physical real program for deprogramming
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our college students and we need a physical real program for deprogramming um the palestinians
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now you might say to me scott you're really talking about brainwashing children
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like we don't brainwash children to which i say that's all we do we only brainwash children do you
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know why we do that because they're not capable of making decisions you have to brainwash them
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you don't make it optional that you look twice before they cross the road anybody tell their kid
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you know you don't have to look twice you don't have to look at both directions
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no you say you look twice or i'll never look let you out of the house again
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whoa i saw you look one way you didn't look the other way stop
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you know you're never leaving the house again until i see you look at both ways basic stuff right so
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um that's what i think the world needs uh we should stop talking about deprogramming and we need to
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implement it is the single most important thing in the world and it would solve not only america's
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problem but the middle east um and i can't think of anything else that would work
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so i'd love to see some experimentation to see if various approaches would actually change anybody's
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at least amount of extremism you know you don't need to change their minds entirely
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but you talk a man of wanting to be violent that probably could work for many
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if you look at germany in 2023 could you conclude that you can brainwash an entire country
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and then you can unbrainwash them in the other direction sometimes too far in the other direction
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it's obvious right because if you look at you know germany under hitler it's completely opposite
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of germany today and some would say you went so far that you know your brains are falling out
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which is a separate conversation but you can add you can literally brainwash an entire
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um civilization now probably in germany the the key to it is that at least one generation went through
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totally brainwashed right the old people you can't do much with them but the new people you can you
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can bring down the new generations fully brainwashed when they reach adulthood now here's something i
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haven't heard talked about uh in the palestinian areas who controls their education systems
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because it's religious religious school right they don't separate school and religion
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if if israel or maybe some other friendly arab countries if somebody doesn't take control of the schools
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then you just have to keep it an open-air prison so the the way to make it not a prison is to start
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training the children to be good citizens and then you can let the children out but the old people i don't
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know who's going to take them if they've been poisoned and are not trying to fix themselves
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poisoned by bad ideas all right that ladies and gentlemen is my suggestion for fixing the world
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we should get serious about the deprogramming and you know what if hillary clinton wants to pull
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together an actual deprogramming course for what she calls the mega extremists i'd take a look
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i'll take a look maybe there's something in there that actually would be productive but i don't think
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the average republican right i don't think the average republican needs to be programmed
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all right that's all i've got for today i'm going to say goodbye to the
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twitter and youtube folks and i will talk to you tomorrow
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locals i'll be talking to you because you're special