Episode 2290 Scott Adams: CWSA 11⧸12⧸23, Illuminating Commentary About The News
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Pro-Israel protesters tear down the American flag on Veterans Day, and Elon Musk calls it "totally insulting." Scott Adams explains why you can't hurt the flag, and why you shouldn't even be offended by it.
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Mmm, that's good. Do you know what I do so I make sure I don't forget putting on my microphone?
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I've got a little process. I do. So I take the microphone, because you see it's on a cord,
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the one for YouTube, and I put it directly in the middle of my work area, so it's a big pile of
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cords sitting there, so that when I take my papers and I go to put them down, there's no way I can
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miss that I have my microphone off, because I would be laying my papers on my microphone.
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So it's sort of a foolproof plan. So what I did was turned on YouTube and immediately said,
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oh, there's a mess in front of me, and I moved it out of the way. Yeah, so that process didn't
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work as well as it should have. So don't do what I do. All right, let's talk about all the funny
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news, or interesting news. So yesterday was Veterans Day, and the protesters, the pro-Palestinian
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anti-Israel protesters, notably tore down some American flags, and even Elon Musk commented
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on X. He said, did they just tear down an American flag on Veterans Day in America? Am I understanding
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this correctly? Now, I would like to give you my contrarian view of this. Number one, as an
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American, how do you feel about having an American flag torn down on Veterans Day? Worst thing ever?
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Totally insulting? No. I remind you that the value of the American flag is that you can tear it down,
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and it's still the same. You can set it on fire, and it's still the same. You could burn it up,
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you could cut it into little pieces, you could drop it at the bottom of the ocean. It's still the same.
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You can't hurt it, because it's a symbol. You can hurt the cloth. Go ahead. You can rearrange where
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the cloth is. You can change how it looks, but you can't hurt it. That's the whole point of it.
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The whole point of the American flag is that, go ahead, knock yourself out. If you want to be an
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asshole, if you want to be disrespectful, you can, but you can't hurt the flag. Because the more they
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try to hurt it, and the more you just wake up tomorrow and you're still here in America, and the
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rules are about the same. Yeah. So, to me, the fact that people who don't like the flag can
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disrespect it right in front of you as hard as they want, and you still wake up the next day,
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and you still have the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, that's the America I want to live
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in. That's exactly, precisely the America that's right. But, of course, it's supposed to offend you.
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That's the whole point. Free speech works that way. Well, Trump is, you know, I guess I'll just say
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it as many times as I need to. Trump will definitely, definitely win the election in 2024 if he never
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talks again. Can we agree? If he never says another thing in public, he's definitely going to win.
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But it wasn't a good day for that this week. So, here's just a few of the things he said
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to try to work his way out of winning. He said, quote, about Chris Christie at a rally,
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I'm defending Chris Christie by saying you can't use the words fat pig.
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I'd like to remind President Trump that his base is not what you would call svelte. Have you ever seen
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an article in the mainstream media that said there was a big rally of Trump supporters, and my oh my,
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are they thin and svelte? So, I'm going to teach you something I learned as a cartoonist, Mr. Trump.
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It goes like this. Calling somebody a fat pig will win you exactly zero votes. There's not a single
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person who would say, you know, I was a little bit on the fence. But when he called two-thirds of America
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fat pigs indirectly, that really won me over, said nobody. But do you think there's even one person
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in America who's concerned about their own weight, you know, who's doing what they can to battle it,
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but it's just a tough battle, and they hear the president just say there's somebody else in their
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same situation as a fat pig. It's all downside. He got a laugh out of it. And, you know, I like the fact
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that he can get a laugh, and he's politically incorrect. You know, I like that about him. But I'm not going
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to vote for him because of it. But could I be offended enough that I wouldn't bother to vote for him?
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Because he seemed a little disrespectful. And the answer is yes. I think this is something where you
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could lose a vote, but you could never gain a vote by that joke. So that was a mistake. Persuasion
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mistake. There are very few cases where you can say something's cleanly a mistake, because you never
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know how everybody takes anything. But this one's cleanly a persuasion mistake. And remember how I
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always say Trump is good about not insulting Americans? He goes after, you know, his critics.
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That's fine. He goes after his opponents. That's fine. But he doesn't go after the American
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people. No matter what you say, he doesn't go after them. But when he calls Christie, you know,
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in his joking way, a fat pig, I feel like there are a lot of ordinary Americans who are doing the best
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they can, battling their own weight problems. And it's probably not, I don't think it was appreciated.
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Now, you can say to yourself, but, but, but, President Trump has extra pounds too. And I have a question
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for you. I saw some pictures that I thought were recent where he was a lot thinner. Is that, is there
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anything to that? Or did I just see an old picture and thought it was a new picture? Because if he did
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that, I mean, he does look different. To me, he looks like he's losing weight, but I don't know. So it could be
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that he's having some success losing weight. But if you want it to be useful, don't call your opponent
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a fat pig. Maybe lose some weight yourself and maybe encourage Americans to exercise and eat right.
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So maybe that'd be better. But I don't think that'll make or break his election.
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Brian Romelli had an interesting post, says the placebo effect seems to be increasing over time,
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and nobody knows why. So the placebo is, you know, you're testing a new drug and you test it against
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the pill that doesn't really have anything active in it. And it turns out that the people who took the
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pill with nothing in it, a large percentage of them also say they got better.
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But, you know, there is some controversy about that. Because some people say, but you really
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needed to compare it to people who didn't even know they were in a trial. Because people get better on
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their own all the time, you know, just for no reason, because your body heals itself. So if you think it's
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because they had a placebo, you really needed to test that against somebody who didn't even know they
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were in a trial. It's like, I didn't know there was a trial. Well, how did you feel last week? And
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how do you feel today? And, you know, then you could see if they got better on their own without
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even knowing there was a pill. So that would be the real test. My understanding is they haven't
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always had that third category. Now, I do understand that often they do. But it might be at least one of
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the sources is that they're just measuring the wrong. So is it possible that the placebo effect is
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somehow increasing substantially? And it has over time. It's like a straight line up. What's the most
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likely explanation for why the placebo effect is increasing? Just take your own guess. Just brainstorm.
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What's the most likely? Because it shows up in all kinds of different experiments and different trials.
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Why would it be? Prayer, somebody says. Here's my guess. We're getting worse as statistics.
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Or better. It could be better, actually. It could be that there's some way that people
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normally looked at results. And remember I said to have that problem, if you don't have that third
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category of people, they didn't even know they were in the trial. You don't really have a good trial,
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at least in terms of the placebo part. It could be that the country just gets a little smarter
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about how to do statistics, and so we're just measuring it more accurately over time. It could
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be. But it could be we're getting worse as statistics because we're bigger weasels. It could be that the
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people doing the tests are finding a new statistically valid but kind of a weaselly way to do the work.
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that is more likely to give them the outcome they want. But at the same time, the weaselly
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statistical thing gives them a better outcome. It also boosts the placebo. Is that possible?
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If you had to guess, is it more likely that the placebo effect is increasing for mysterious reasons,
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or more likely that all the fucking weasels who are doing all the fake science since the beginning of
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time have figured out that there's a better weaselly way to do their weaseling? I'm going to go with
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weaseling. If I had to put money on it, it would just be a wild guess. But if I had to put money on
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it, I'd say it's the way we measure it that's changed. But I don't have evidence of that.
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All right. Trump went to another UFC big event last night, got a lot of news. It's one of the
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brilliant things he does, because he goes into a room where everybody except one person seems to love
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him. We'll talk about the one person. That's its own story. So he gets this, you know, wild applause.
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But in such a Trump-like fashion, he enters and he's walking with, who was he with? He was with Kid
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Rock, Tucker Carlson, and Don Jr. was around there somewhere too. Can you even imagine a better show
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than watching Trump enter? I mean, watching Trump enter with those two characters that automatically
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just increase your thought process about Trump. Because you think, Tucker Carlson, what's he doing
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there? Because they're talking about him as maybe a vice president. Like, were they talking about him
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being vice president? You know, so that's like automatically cool. Then Kid Rock, you know,
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who's long had an association with the Trumps, he's just interesting. So he makes you look.
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So the UFC makes you look. Joe Rogan's there, so that makes you interested. The fight itself is
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interesting. Trump's there. That's interesting. Kid Rock's there. That's interesting. Tucker Carlson's
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there. That's interesting. And they're all celebrities in the audience, and that's interesting.
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And then something even more interesting happened. A photographer caught a photo of Trump entering the
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UFC, and the audience was behind him. And two of the members of the audience were Bill Burr and his
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wife. And his wife was giving the double finger to Trump behind Trump's back.
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So. Now, I'm pretty sure Bill Burr has talked about, you know, he and his wife and maybe some
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political differences and stuff like that. I'm sure that's been part of his act. So there's probably
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nothing, there's probably nothing new we're learning. Right? So it's not like we just learned his wife
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is not a Trump supporter. But I've listened to Bill Burr for a long time. You know, one of my all-time
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favorites, one of the best in the business. And he is a little politically incorrect, wouldn't you say?
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I feel like he occupies a space that's definitely not Republican, but it's definitely not progressive,
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like real left progressive. You're somewhere in that sane middle ground. And that's a perfect place
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to be if you're a comedian who has to fill an auditorium or an event venue. You know, you want
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everybody to say, you know, he's a little bit on my side. And then you see his wife gives the double
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finger in public to the, you know, ex-president. Now what do you think? So here's the interesting part of
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the story. I would love to know how the conversation went when they got home. Honey, did you see this
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picture? We're trending on the X platform? Really? We're trending? Why? Well, it turns out you just
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gave the finger to 40% of America. What? Yeah, you just gave the finger to 40% of all the people who
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come to my shows. Basically, you just reduced my income by 40%. And she's like, no, I was just giving
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the finger to Trump. It was just about Trump. And then Bill says, I don't know if I have to be the
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first one to explain this to you, but you just gave the finger to 40% of America. And my income
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and our income just went down 40%. Would I go to Bill Burr's show? Well, I actually had bought a ticket
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to one once. I couldn't go. There was some conflict, so I ended up not going. But I wouldn't buy one now.
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Do you know why I wouldn't buy one now? Because that's the house I wouldn't be welcome to go to
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dinner. Like I wouldn't be welcome in their company. Right? So fuck them. You know, they're a team.
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Fuck them. I would never buy a ticket to his show. He's dead to me. But only because it's clear that
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that would be, you know, at least one part of his marriage would feel the same way about me. Probably both.
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But once you know, you can't really see it the same, can you? You know, it's one thing to say,
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oh, I think that performer has some political opinions I disagree with. That's not what's happening.
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I wouldn't, I don't mind at all watching a performer who completely disagrees with me on politics.
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You know what I don't want to see? There's somebody who gives me the finger in public
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by proxy and thinks that's okay. That's not okay. And so fuck both of you, really. That's my opinion.
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All right. But it's a free country. So free speech, yes. Definitely. I definitely agree with the free
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speech. Every right to do it. All right. Here's a funny political story. Somebody named Senator
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Ben Ray Lujan. Never heard of him. But Ben Ray decided to get in the technology debate with
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Representative Thomas Massey. Now, again, if you know the players, this is funny before I tell you the
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story. Thomas Massey, MIT graduate, basically runs his own home on an electric system he designed
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and built himself from an old Tesla battery. So he's got this whole solar thing he literally built
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himself. And probably, probably the most technologically savvy member of Congress of all time,
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maybe of all time. So the, uh, the Lujan was saying that, uh, what'd he say? Uh, so there's this act
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where the government can shut down your car after a certain year. They'll have the ability to shut down
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your car remotely. Now they say it's about stopping drunk drivers, but obviously you have to worry about
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that sip re-slope because of the simultaneous sip. See, it's an inside joke. Uh, dad joke. That was a
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drive-by dad joke right there. Anyway, um, there's a concern that it will act randomly. And then
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Luan, Senator Luan says it won't act randomly. You know, it's only, it's only if there's a good reason
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to do it. And he also said, the technology is not used to track anybody. You know, it's not used to
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track anybody. So, you know, don't worry about it. Thomas Massey responds, uh, maybe, you know,
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it will trigger falsely more often than not dangerously stranding people in cars. Now, which
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one of these two people actually understands how technology works in the real world? In the real
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world, it's going to turn your fucking car off for no reason. Why? Because everything that adds
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complexity is another reason to turn your car off. This is just one. And this is an obvious one,
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right? If you've got a little bit of a problem with your car, you can still get home. But if it turns
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off, you're stranded. You're not going anywhere. So yes, any new technology is going to, is going to
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have false positives. There's no, no question about it. Don't know how many. Um, and then, uh, as,
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as Massey says about tracking, um, how would the technology know if somebody was driving properly
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and at the right speed limit, if it didn't know where you were driving?
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And I'm thinking to myself, hmm, that's a pretty good point. Yeah. How's it going to know anything
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about you if it doesn't know where you are? It doesn't know if you're allowed to do 55.
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So yeah, don't argue with Thomas Massey on technology. It just makes you look dumb. Um,
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this is the funniest, most absurd story in Washington, DC, the CVS stores have replaced what used to be
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goods you could buy on shelves with photographs of the goods you could buy if they were on the
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shelves. Photographs actually on a little stand. Here's what the toilet paper would look like if
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it were here. And then I guess you ask for it. Now, is CVS really just a, a living marketing department
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for amazon.com at this point? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can get toilet paper in like 16
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hours on, on Amazon. So the one and only time, and you know, roughly the same price, right? So
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basically the only time you should go to CVS to buy toilet paper is if you just took a shit and you
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haven't pulled up your pants and you just realized there's no paper products anywhere in your house.
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So you keep your pants, you know, by your ankles and you shuffle down to CVS and buy something off
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the shelf. And you're like, Oh God, there's all your photograph. It's all your photographs. My plan
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of, I mean, it's like CVS is trying to go out of business as hard as they can. Anyway, enough about
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that. Um, new study on homeschooling says it's awesome. Uh, homeschoolers learn as much, do as well,
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uh, academically and seem to be as well adjusted. Now I think I have a theory that homeschoolers are
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better adjusted, better adjusted. Here's why. If you take any child and you throw them into the,
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uh, the prison system called public school, they will have some positive encounters because some
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people are nice and they might become your friends, but mostly you would be with the biggest
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assholes who have ever existed in the history of the planet. Young American kids, young American
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teenagers, the worst fucking people in the world who will try to destroy your psyche, make you mentally
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ill, hurt you physically, just the worst people in the world. Now the old story was that that's what
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made you well socialized. Really? Really? How about we put people in a maximum security prison for six
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years just because that's a good way to socialize them? That'll toughen them up. They'll really be
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able to handle all situations because they were in prison. No, you don't put people in a toilet to
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toughen them up. That's not a strategy. Hey, let's send these kids to Gaza for a few years, toughen them
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up. Now compare, compare what I imagine is homeschool. I don't have a personal, uh, personal
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experience, but what I've seen from the outside is that number one, kids who are homeschooled are
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more likely to learn how to socialize with, uh, adults. True. Do you think that's true? Homeschoolers
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spend a little more time with adults and they start to, you know, more, I say more quickly
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acclimate to an adult persona. Almost all homeschoolers act polite and they will shake your
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hands and make eye contact. Go to any public school and find the kid that will shake hands
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and make eye contact. Do you, have any of you had the experience of your teens or younger
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kids, uh, taking friends home to your house? Have you ever had this experience where your
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teen will walk in the house with two or three new friends and walk past you? Just walk past
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you like you don't exist in your own home? Do you think a homeschooler would do that? I mean,
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seriously, you think any homeschooler would walk past an adult in that adult's own home
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the first time you've ever been there? I don't, well, maybe, I mean, people are different,
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but I think they're far more likely to look at you and say, Oh, I should introduce myself.
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Right now. What about the, you know, the access to all the weird people so that you get toughened up?
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Well, the fact is that adults don't act like high schoolers. I mean, rarely. So you don't really
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need to get toughened up to learn how to be a child in high school because that's not an adult
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skill. An adult skill is dealing with adults and they are pretty much different. So the
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homeschoolers are learning a life skill, which is how to learn, deal with adults. The teens are
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learning a useless skill, which is how to deal with assholes that they won't have to spend time
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with when they're adults. So does it surprise you that the homeschoolers are, and probably,
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I'm just assuming this, this is speculative, that the parents of homeschoolers are also going to be
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a little bit more rigorous about checking on their friends, you know, maybe do a little more due
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diligence about who they hang out with. I mean, the whole thing looks like a better model. So it
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doesn't surprise me that the science is catching up to them.
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All right, here's a funny story. The Washington Post, talking about Ukraine here, they dropped
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what some people are calling a bombshell, a bombshell. They're saying now that there's a member,
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some person in Ukraine is taking responsibility for planning the destruction of the Nord Stream
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pipeline. So now a Ukrainian colonel and cover ops guy, you know, may have worked with the CIA,
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but now Ukraine is kind of taking the heat for blowing up the pipeline. And this is reported
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in the Washington Post. Now the Washington Post is long rumored to be sort of a deep state organ,
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as in not really news. They're the ones who are pushing the propaganda. That's what people say.
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All I know is that Phil Bump works there, and that's not a good sign. But here's phase one through
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three. In phase one, the Washington Post blamed Russia for attacking itself, attacking their most
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valuable asset, their pipeline, you know, one of them. So that was phase one. That was the Washington
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Post. Blame Russia for attacking themselves. In phase two, everyone laughs at the absurdity of that
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propaganda and assumes that America was involved, and phase one is a total failure because nobody
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believed it. It was just so fucking ridiculous that nobody believed it. Well, except some Democrats.
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I guess some Democrats actually believed it. But most people did not believe it. So then phase three
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comes, and now Washington Post is saying that Ukraine has admitted it, and Ukraine did it.
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Do you believe that we went from Russia did it to itself to obviously America did it? You made
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that up. That's an obvious lie, too. Well, oh, what I mean, no, no, no. Did I say Russia blew
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itself up? No, no, no. No, it was Ukraine. Ukraine led the operation. We don't know if they
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talked to the CIA, but yeah, it was a Ukraine operation. Is that conveniently pro-Biden
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administration? Because you know Biden is going to have to explain why he's pro-environment,
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but created the biggest environmental disaster of our time by blowing that thing up. So Biden
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actually needs some deniability, and the Washington Post shamelessly at first blaming Russia for
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attacking their own pipeline, and then blames Ukraine, because there's somebody in Ukraine
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who's willing to, you know, go with that story, apparently. But like the Ukrainians did it without
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informing America or NATO, and they did it without any help from NATO in any way or America.
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How about phase four? We laugh at phase three, just like we laughed at phase one, because it's
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ridiculous. Like the news is just ridiculous. If you want to know how much you should trust the
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Washington Post, just know that they canceled me and they kept Phil Bump. That's all you need to
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know. They canceled me, but they kept Phil Bump. If you don't know who Phil Bump is, it's not as funny.
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Do you remember my prediction that we would learn that Israel has developed new and awesome
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technologies for handling the tunnels, the Hamas tunnels? Well, Lieutenant Colonel Cornelricus tells
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us that yes, they have developed new technology for handling tunnels, and the Hamas probably doesn't
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see it coming. Now, what are those new technologies? They're not going to tell you. So they're not
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going to tell you. Let me tell you what technology I would use. I would use robots and or drones. So it
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doesn't matter if they're flying or not, because, you know, they could fly a few feet off the ground,
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or they could be robots. But if you were sending a drone down a tunnel, wouldn't you lose signal?
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Well, that's the problem, right? You'd lose signal to the surface? Suppose they had found a way to get
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a signal to a remote drone. In that case, robots would be the only way you would clear a tunnel.
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The only thing you would need is to know that it had a little flashlight on it and that it could get
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a signal from whoever was operating it. Here's how I would do it. If you couldn't get a signal to
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penetrate the distance down. Now, they might have some technology that can do that, that can penetrate
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surfaces. I don't know. But here's what I would do. I would send a parade of drones or robots,
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it works either way, down the tunnel. And the first one would be the shooter drone or the spotter drone.
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So that's the real, you know, the action end. But each drone behind it would just be a signal
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booster. So you'd have one that's, and then each of the drones would learn that if it loses contact,
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it simply backs up until it gets contact again. So if the head drone gets taken out,
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the next drone behind it is a parade of drones, and it just takes its place. And then all the other
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drones are only signal boosters, so you can get the signal to it. What do you think? Would that work?
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the secret would be, it would have to be self-adjusting. So a little bit of AI or something
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like it, to know that if it loses a signal, it has to operate autonomously until it gets it back.
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And its first mission is to get the signal back. So it just backtracks until it finds the signal.
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I think it's pretty clever. Now, I don't think Israel is using my idea. That would be, you know,
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weirdly awesome if they were. And I don't know if we'll ever hear what they used. My guess is we will.
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And I think the reason we would learn it is that, you know, presumably Hamas would figure out what
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was happening. You know, somebody at Hamas will survive and say, damn, it was those robots down
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there. Everything was going well until they sent their robots. So I think the secret will get out.
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I think Israel will just tell us so that people will be less likely to build tunnels. Just a little
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less likely. Now, I also wonder about some kind of a particle detector or something that they can just
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shoot through the ground and, you know, give some kind of idea what's down there. So they may have
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some better tunnel detection technology, too, from above. I don't know. We're going to find out a lot
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of interesting things. But my prediction was that Israel had technology for tunnels that would be way
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more effective than anything you've ever heard of. And they weren't telling you until they needed to
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use it. But here we are. So pretty good prediction. I'll take the credit on that one.
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Kamala Harris had some words to say about Gaza in that situation. She said, and I quote,
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what I hope is that we can engage in conversation and discourse in a way that understands this is not
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binary. Well, what I took away from that is that she's even worse when she's sober. Because she
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actually looks sober. She wasn't giggling. And I thought, oh, maybe I understand why you drink
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now. Because if this is what you produce when you're sober, I saw Bill Maher criticize on his
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recent show. He criticized Obama. And he said, this is something I've never done or rarely done or
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something. But that Obama was totally wrong on saying that, of course, October 7th was hideous.
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But in order to understand the situation, said Obama, you had to understand that both sides had
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some blood on their hands. And Bill Maher rejected that as a reasonable message, saying that at the
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moment, the both sides is just the wrong message. Right? You know, we understand the truth of a long
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history, like everybody gets that there's history here. But at the moment, that's not where your
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focus should be if you're an American leader. Now, that's Bill Maher. That's Bill Maher. Is he
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getting closer to voting? It seems like every time he talks, we just glitched over on YouTube.
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I criticized Obama and we just glitched. Are you back yet? I think they're back. All right.
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Well, so CNN and other U.S. news outlets have cut ties with these photojournalists that were
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apparently along for the ride. They did a ride-along during the October 7th attacks,
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which would make them more like terrorists than photojournalists. Because if they went along for
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the attack, certainly they had some warning the attacks were going to happen. Right? They didn't
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just get thrown on a motorcycle the moment the attack started. So they must have known a little bit.
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So they do seem a little complicit, or we worry that they could be. So the AP and Reuters and CNN,
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and a number of them have used the same embedded photojournalists, but it turns out they might have
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been a little bit more pro-Humas than we thought. But I'd like to point out that, speaking of Kamala
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Harris, if you were to do a Venn diagram of our media, and then a Venn diagram of the terrorists,
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there'd be a little bit of an overlap. A little bit. A little bit of an overlap.
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What I read next is what I just posted this morning.
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And it goes like this. Do you remember the time you saw the list of totally reasonable demands
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that the Palestinians have made of Israel? Do you remember seeing that list?
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You know, the list. The list of the total reasonable demands.
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You know, it was a list that didn't rely on some sort of historical narrative.
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It was the one that didn't seem to try to fix the past,
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but just sort of focused on what's real and in the present.
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Yeah, it was a very constructive starting point for a conversation.
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And I thought, hey, that's a good step toward a permanent solution,
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I'm talking about the reasonable Palestinian people with reasonable demands.
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is that it's the most important document in the world.
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If you think that the Middle East might spark a larger world war,
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And once we have that, that would be a good step forward.
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Because you want to not deal with the terrorists, of course.
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But the reasonable demands of the Palestinian people,
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you know, the part where they need, I don't know,
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water, electricity, some security, you know, things like that.
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Maybe travel, less travel restrictions sort of stuff.
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Well, you're acting like that list doesn't exist.
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There is, in fact, a very specific list of the reasonable Palestinian objections.
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Number one on the list is that the Israeli leaders
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who were part of war crimes against the Palestinians be punished.
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So when I said that list that does not include historical narratives,
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Your side is bad, and you've got to do something about the badness first
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before we're talking about, you know, food and water and education and stuff.
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But you've got to address your past badness first.
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Because on average, they both prefer the fight to the peace.
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Israel just gains land every time they get attacked.
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It's all supported by the fact that they're under continuous threat.
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The worst thing that could happen to Israel is complete peace.
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Because they would lose their reasons for not having a bigger
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and lose their, let's say, primarily Jewish characters,
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Isn't that like another, like, important thing to know?
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and you don't know the percentage of Muslims living,
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So there are a number of people who generally had
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Like I say, you're the most informed consumers of news.
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that if Israel were in a permanent peace situation,
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because there's such a difference in procreation levels?
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I just don't think it's in Israel's best interest
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All indications are that they want to die in a war
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Obviously, everybody cares if their children die.
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So I think that when we look at it from the outside
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It feels like there's not enough work toward peace.
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if you could say specifically what you're asking for,
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and conversation, and I'll bet we could solve a few.
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And probably Republicans would be persuaded to say yes,
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Here's an interesting angle on this Middle East stuff.
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Now, I didn't know quite the history of their situation.
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I knew they were obviously enemies in the region.
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since the Saudis and the Iranians met at a high level.
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and there's a little bit of murdering that goes on,
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who sometimes did things you really, really don't like,
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But the fact that there's any attempt at it at all
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So if that's what the Saudi prince is going for,