Episode 2326 CWSA 12⧸18⧸23 Vivek Gives. Advice To Van Jones, Hoaxes Trending, Lots More Fun
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Summary
In this episode of Coffee with Scott Adams, host Scott Adams talks about why the population might not be growing as fast as it used to, and why that could be due to a variety of reasons. He also talks about a recent viral story about a white kid who got a 1460 on the SAT, but could not get into Cornell University because he skipped a grade.
Transcript
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You've probably seen old videos that have been restored
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of Americans walking around the streets of, let's say, New York City
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And we laugh because the people have, there's like zero obesity.
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Now, men, I'm going to ask a very provocative question.
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Men, of all those women that you saw walking around in those 1900s photos or videos,
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Men who just said you would have sex with all of the women in the 1900s.
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Fast forward in your mind, the 2023 Christmas, put yourself in the middle of the mall,
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Now, in your mind, walk through the mall and look at all the people, men and women.
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Now, ask yourself, what percentage of the women in the mall would you have sex with voluntarily?
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There might be a reason that the population isn't growing as fast as it used to.
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I believe we are less attractive to each other.
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But on top of that, haven't we also become, because we all have our own little social media
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bubbles we can get into, haven't we all become more different than we've ever been?
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I feel like the average guy in 1900s, they're all about the same.
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But today, you know, you're into birdwatching, and I'm into quantum computing, and we just
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Because we have a riches of experiences, and we have different interests.
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So there are pretty obvious reasons why things are going negative on population.
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There's a viral story on X about some young white kid who got a 1460 on his SATs, but could
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not get accepted at Cornell, despite how he skipped a grade, and I guess he did some extracurricular
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But as other people have pointed out, 1460 isn't really good enough to get into Cornell.
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I suppose if you were a group that were recruiting, 1460 would be enough.
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But it's worth pointing out that 1460 would be at the low end of anybody who even applied.
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I think it would be in the lowest 25% of anybody who even applied.
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So I don't know if that story is really about discrimination, or just it's hard to get into
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Here's a question I asked on X, because Tucker Carlson keeps saying that there's something
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real about these aliens, and that there are parts he doesn't even tell his wife, because
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they're too disturbing, and there's a spiritual dimension to it.
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Now, he's not very clear about what that spiritual dimension is, if he has any clarity on that.
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Well, I would think there's an obvious skeptical problem here, which is, what if we find out
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that life on Earth absolutely 100% came from aliens from another planet intentionally seeding us
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So I'm going to give you just a mental experiment that I gave to people on X.
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If you knew with 100% certainty, now, I accept that there's no such thing as 100% certainty,
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But if you could have 100% certainty that life on Earth came from an alien planet, and it was
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intentional, would you continue believing in your holy books?
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Now, keep in mind, that would still allow you to believe in God, because in that case, God
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So, the first thing you should know about my question on X is that it was an NPC trap.
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An NPC trap is when you say something that you know, certain percentage of the population
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will have to respond in an exact, boring way, do whatever is the most boring thing they
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So, because it was a trap, I put in my question, stipulated, God could have created the aliens.
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Because 100% of the time, if you say that, you know, maybe the aliens seeded Earth, somebody
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will say, but Scott, there's something you haven't considered, obviously.
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Scott, I don't think you've considered that possibly the aliens could have been created
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Now, yes, I know you will say that 100% of the time that this topic comes up.
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So, I put right in the, right, very clearly, stipulated, God could have created the aliens.
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Well, Johnny 4K says, one would ask, where then did the aliens come from then?
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And then, Amy is the bomb responded, no, someone had to create the aliens.
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So, yeah, my NPC tests, I sucked in a bunch of NPCs who then revealed themselves.
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But anyway, the point is that 63% of people said that if they found out for sure that their
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religious holy books were completely made up, it wouldn't change their faith.
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Even if they knew their faith wasn't real, they said they wouldn't change their faith.
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Two-thirds of people said they wouldn't change their religious beliefs if they found out with
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With 100% certainty, they found out they weren't true.
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Now, of course, what's really happening here is people are reinterpreting the question so
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Hell, Scott, there's no such thing as 100% uncertainty in anything.
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You don't get to say there's no such thing as no certainty.
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I believe that two-thirds of people would keep their religion regardless of what they found
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And if they found out aliens seeded the earth, they would just say, well, but God need the
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But it would kind of make the whole Genesis story a little less practical.
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And then other people said, but Scott, it's obvious that something had to create the universe.
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Is it obvious that something created the universe?
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Something that was not the universe created it.
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No, the obvious answer is that there was always something here.
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The obvious answer is that time is not what you think, and there was no beginning.
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That's far more likely than there was nothing, and then something created it.
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Because if there was something that created it, then what created the thing that created it?
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So there's no way nothing was here, and then it turned into something.
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Because somebody who was not part of the nothing created it.
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According to Rasmussen poll, let's see if you can guess the answer to this.
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Can you guess the answer before I ask the question?
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And a lot of people had the answer before they knew what the topic was.
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So 24% is how many people believe the news media have given too much coverage of the Hunter Biden legal problems.
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24% said there's way too much of this Hunter Biden legal problem stuff in the news.
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60% of the likely U.S. voters believe the problem of bias in the news is getting worse.
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So even more people believe the news is getting worse.
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Is that good for Trump, if people think the news is less dependable?
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Yes, because that's Trump's message from the beginning.
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There's news that apparently people are developing new cases of chronic pain.
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Just before I went live to the YouTube people, I asked the people on the locals platform privately.
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If they had tried my test, I had challenged the people who follow me on the locals community to stop eating wheat for two weeks.
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And the idea was, I don't have any evidence that wheat is bad for you.
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I'm just speculating that maybe people have different sensitivities to different foods.
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Now, it doesn't mean it's the only thing that might be causing you some chronic pain.
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Because I suspect our food sources are essentially compromised.
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Now, you can eat safely if you're to eat without preservatives and a lot of chemicals.
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But some people have questioned whether our American bodies are handling the wheat.
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So I said, why don't we do a little experiment?
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And so I asked the people, how many of you would be willing to just give up wheat for a few weeks
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to see how you feel, see if you lose weight, see if anything's different, just as an experiment.
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And I asked just before I went live on YouTube, and it was just a stream of people
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who had lost weight and feel better and lost chronic pain.
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But I recommend this as a general system for your life.
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The system for your life is you should continually experiment with adding foods to your diet,
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and then don't change much except maybe one food you added, and then also subtract some things.
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Anything that looks like it might be a little suspicious, just see what happens.
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However, in the same article, it said that these chronic pains have now surpassed diabetes and high blood pressure
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What do diabetes, depression, high blood pressure, and chronic pain have in common?
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I think inflammation is probably the thing behind everything, you know, and food.
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The bigger answer is, I think this is all food.
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Would you have as much high blood pressure if people were a good weight?
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Well, if you've got diabetes, bad blood pressure, and chronic pain, and you're overweight, you might not feel 100%.
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So it's entirely possible that even depression has high correlation with, you know, your general health, which has a high correlation with what you eat.
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So I'd be looking at the food sources, RFK Jr. is right on about all that stuff.
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Remember I tell you that you don't understand any story until you know the players.
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Like who's married to who, who's related to who, and who used to work for whom, who used to be whose boss.
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So if you saw a story about, let's say the Rolling Stone publication, said there's some big lie about Tesla, and that more than 2 million Teslas are being recalled because of some problem with the self-driving system,
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wouldn't you say to yourself, my God, I'm going to think twice before I buy a Tesla car based on this Rolling Stone report?
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All right, here's something that I left out of the report.
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The so-called recall is just an automatic software update that you don't have to do anything about.
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And the software update was something about being more in the face of the driver in case they were using the automatic driving.
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It was more of a reminder to pay attention to the automatic driving if you haven't activated it.
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Now, what part of that is some national story, that there was an automatic update like there always is, and it made their user interface a little bit better?
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Tesla improved their user interface automatically without any action by the owner.
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And that got turned into, by Rolling Stone, a big lie about Tesla and a giant recall.
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All right, so here's the things you don't know about Rolling Stone.
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And, oh, did I not write down who told me this?
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I'm stealing this from somebody on the X platform, and I did not write down who it was.
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All right, well, I apologize, but I'm going to still give you the content.
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If somebody knows who I stole this from, remind me in the comments because I tweeted it.
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Do you know who owns Rolling Stone publication?
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And their chairman is the son of Roger Penske, famous, you know, automotive Penske person.
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And let's see, the father of the person who owns Rolling Stone, what kind of business is the father in?
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Oh, owns over 200 car dealerships that compete with Tesla.
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So the guy whose company owns Rolling Stone, that guy's father, is a major competitor to Tesla.
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Don't you think that should have been mentioned in the story?
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X is the publication that says that things like the Rolling Stone are obsolete and ridiculous and fake news.
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Because it's obsolete and ridiculous and clearly fake news.
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Suppose you read this story like it was just a story in the news.
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You would think there's something wrong with Tesla.
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In fact, if you go just like one level down, Tesla is operating pretty well.
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They gave you an automatic update and made something better without you doing any work.
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The media landscape is so slimy that if you don't know these connections, you just don't know what's going on.
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You wouldn't know what this story is really about.
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Here's something I loved when I woke up this morning on X.
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So I go, I click on it to see what is, why that's trending.
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And some people are talking about climate change being a hoax.
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Some people talk about Russia collusion being a hoax.
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Somebody said something about health care is a hoax.
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Somebody said the Whitmer kidnapping things was a hoax.
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And somebody else said the January 6th insurrection was a hoax.
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So I'm going to say that this is a Mike Cernovich, you know, with his movie Hoax.
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And I think he's the first person who started using that word in the political context.
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But it looks like it's entered the language pretty heavily.
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The fact that it's trending, and it's trending across topics, suggests that the frame, that the news is basically a bunch of political hoaxes.
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And each one is a hoax in which you can explain the hoax pretty easily.
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It's pretty easy to say what the hoax is in each of these cases.
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As soon as I saw that word there, and I realized that it applied to a whole bunch of different topics, that looked like winning to me.
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There's something in the zeitgeist now, where when somebody sees a story that looks sketchy, the word hoax comes to mind.
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Alina Hubba, who's Trump's attorney, says that if Trump gets elected, they're going to go deep and hard against the Democrats.
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Well, I mean, some could argue that that's already started in the Senate hearing room.
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It already happened in the Senate hearing room.
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Somebody's going deep and hard against the Democrats.
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Look, if somebody gets banged in the Senate hearing room, I'm not going to let that go for at least three weeks.
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Three weeks is my minimum, minimum level of joke window.
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After three weeks, I'm going to say, it's a little old, sort of a Jussie's Smollett smell to it now.
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Now, what do you think of the idea, though, that Trump is going to go hard against the Democrats if elected?
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Do you think it's good for Trump to say or his proxies to say that he's going to go hard against the Democrats?
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I really think somebody does need to go hard against all the hoaxes and obviously the legal fuckery.
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Because saying it leads into their narrative that he's going to be Thanos and everybody will die when he's elected.
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I like that at least during the primary season they're talking tough because the base wants to hear it.
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But maybe when it gets to the general, when the nominations are over, maybe then you don't say that so much.
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I'll do a little less of that once we get into it a little more.
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Jonathan Turley is on the case talking about Hunter Biden and whether he'll be charged with criminal contempt
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or refusing to appear by subpoena, I guess, to talk to Congress.
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But the interesting side question, which Turley talks about, is that Eric Swalwell apparently helped coordinate
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In other words, he attended with him and they were sort of working as a team.
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So the question is, is Eric Swalwell risking going to jail for just helping Hunter in what looks like doing something
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that could create a criminal contempt situation, interfere with the, you know,
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wouldn't Swalwell be interfering with an official, an official, let's say, what would you call it,
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Because once the House members are looking into something, isn't that an official process?
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Is there any less official than what Pence was doing on January 6th?
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Or is there like some subcategory of what makes something official?
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To me, it looks like somebody who's trying to thwart the Congress's official work.
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You know, at least in the same risk as Bannon was, because there was a similar situation.
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Some say nothing's ever really similar in this legal stuff.
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There are no two situations that are really the same.
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But there are situations that make you raise your eyebrow and say,
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But I don't think this, Walwell is in legal jeopardy, and I don't think Hunter will be in legal jeopardy.
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But I also don't think Bannon should have been in legal jeopardy.
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People, you could argue that they broke the law.
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But you don't really want people to go to jail for this sort of stuff.
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After I read this, see if you can answer the question, is it working?
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Here's the Democrats' obvious strategy for beating Trump.
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Tonight, Donald Trump channeled his role models as he parroted Adolf Hiller, praised Kim Jong-un,
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and quoted Vladimir Putin while running for president on a promise to rule as a dictator and threaten American democracy.
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May I quote Vivek Ramaswamy, presidential candidate?
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Well, let me just point out that I don't think it's working.
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I'm going to call this the Thanos strategy, because Thanos is just more ridiculously fictional.
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You know, the whole Hitler, Kim Jong-un, Putin thing is like creating this fictional world where Biden,
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where Trump lives in it, and he's friends with all the dictators, and he's going to be one.
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So I think it's funnier if you embrace it and take it all the way to the full fiction of Thanos,
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the super villain in the Marvel movies, who's going to snap his bejeweled glove and half of the planet will die.
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If you're going to show, you're going to put it in one sentence, Adolf Hitler, Kim Jong-un, and Vladimir Putin.
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Now, do you agree that this attack doesn't feel like an attack anymore?
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Doesn't it just sound funny to you when you hear it?
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You know, I'm not saying that just to influence you.
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In a related story, Vivek Ramaswamy was speaking.
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now, you know me, I don't like to use foul language in public.
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So I'm only going to say this because it's a presidential candidate who said it in public.
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So ordinarily, I would never try to offend your ears with such language.
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You know, hey, we talked about Monica Lewinsky's blowjob.
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I can say president's cock because that was actually the subject of an impeachment.
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quote, you've got this character, Van Jones on CNN afterwards is saying, quote, this is
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This is the rise of an American demagogue who is going to live 50 years longer than Trump.
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Now, what strategy, what persuasion strategy is Vivek employing here successfully?
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He's treating them like clowns because the things they're saying do sound clownish.
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And if he were to respond to it as in, my goodness, I'm not going to be a dictator, that would be such a mistake.
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Because then you're just talking about how you're a dictator, but not a dictator.
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He just says, just shut the fuck up, which guarantees it becomes national news.
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Guarantees it's national news and guarantees that you will mock Van Jones.
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But he's also a team player on the other side, you know, unabashedly.
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I don't mind when people are overtly, unabashedly taking a team perspective.
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And Van Jones does a good job of not lying, in my opinion.
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But he does use a little hyperbole now and then.
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And the hyperbole about the dictators in the Republican Party are ridiculous.
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So if we can get to the point where we treat it as funny, we're not going to look so scary.
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Nobody wants to be the mocked person in the conversation.
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And all this dictator stuff is so over-the-top ridiculous that Vivek...
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I would say if you were going to grade this, it isn't just...
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And try to come up with a better response to Van Jones than...
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Because it dismisses the other side as ridiculous exactly with the tone that you need to.
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I talked about this, my Dear Democrat post, where I told the Democrats how to get out of their brainwashing prison.
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I told you yesterday it had that early indication it might go viral.
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I saw that Elon Musk responded to it with just one word.
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I like when Elon Musk gives the really fast responses to things.
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Like if there's something in the news that's just crazy, he'll just do the one exclamation mark.
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But then other times he just does the one word.
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So I'm sure that has something to do with the traffic on it.
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But given that it has 3.5 million views and the Elon Musk endorsed it, and I saw a lot of people say it was the best post of the year.
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And a number of people just spontaneously and independently said best post of the year.
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Or even if I have this many views, people don't say it's the best post of the year.
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Because there's something about this that's really resonating with people.
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So if we can understand what is it about this that's resonating, then you'll be more powerful.
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Dear Democrats, I'm sorry your media has done this to you.
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I realize you have no mechanism for knowing how brainwashed you are, and as a trained hypnotist, I am genuinely empathetic about it.
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I mean no disrespect, because brainwashing is more powerful than brains.
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One way out of your mental prisons is to ask yourself which countries are okay with changing the basic nature of the societies via unchecked immigration.
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If such countries exist, and unchecked immigration is working out great for them, you might be right that the right-wingers and Trump are like Hitler.
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If no such country exists, consider that you have been the victim of brainwashing, the real kind,
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and that this type of manipulation is the basic nature of American society, and has been for decades.
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Next, ask yourself if anyone has ever used a complex model to predict anything about the future, climate change or otherwise.
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You will learn it isn't a thing, and never has been.
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Your real enemies are the brainwashers in charge, not the so-called right-wing.
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The political right can be deluded and wronged too, but it never looks like the result of organized brainwashing,
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just an attraction to conspiracy theories, too many of which have proven true.
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Is that sort of the dividing line between just talking and persuading?
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You have to feel it, or else it's not persuasion.
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It's too long, but I did get three and a half million views.
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Let me tell you which parts of this are active persuasion, so you can reproduce it.
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I started out by saying, dear Democrats, and I apologized to them.
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I said, I'm sorry, and I have empathy for their situation.
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If you start with empathy, you're going to get a better outcome than if you start with, you're all idiots.
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So the first persuasion is that you start with empathy.
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By saying, I'm sorry that it happened to you, I make people think about whether or not I'm really sorry.
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If they're thinking about whether I'm really sorry about it, I made them think past the sale.
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I'm not talking about whether something happened to them.
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I said, I mean no respect because brainwashing is more powerful than brains.
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Is it Machiavelli who says you should always leave your enemy once you've defeated them?
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So I give them a way out, which is, hey, it's not your fault.
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If somebody uses brainwashing on you, you're not magic.
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And I've also said there's a reason that's not your fault.
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And I've already absolved them from blame before I even get into the details.
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Then I told them a way out of their mental prison, which is also making them think past the sale.
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I'm not trying to sell them on the fact that they're in a mental prison.
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I'm not going to argue whether you're in a mental prison.
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Now, if I tell you how to get out, wouldn't you be tempted to try it if it were so easy it didn't require any effort whatsoever?
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You just have to read the rest of the sentence.
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I've been brainwashed, and you're going to get me out of it with one sentence?
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You're going to finish because I'm going to tell you how to get out of a prison that you didn't know you were in.
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So here's what I said was, consider that if there's some place where unchecked immigration is working, then maybe you've got a point.
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Because as far as we know, there is no place that unchecked immigration is working, and logically it can't work.
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Now, some people said to me, but Scott, in the comments, unchecked immigration is what made America great.
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Like, we're basically a nation that became the strongest nation on earth because of specifically unchecked immigration.
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What's it called when somebody is already living in a place, and then you come in with all your people and displace the people who are there and take all their land?
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Is that called unchecked immigration, or is that?
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If you want to be a fucking colonizer, then how about your unchecked immigration is a good way to get there.
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That was the best criticism to this tweet, that colonizing is maybe better than you thought.
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So then I challenged them to think about that so that they have actually some meat to think about.
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Best way to make a friend is if you have a common enemy.
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And you're working toward defeating the common enemy.
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And they're not your friend if they're brainwashing you.
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Dear Democrat, who I feel actual genuine empathy for.
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whoever has destroyed your ability to see reality through this intense brainwashing,
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by the way, this is good writing technique as well as good persuasion.
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If you know what people are thinking as their criticism,
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It's much stronger than waiting for them to say it.
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Because once they say it, they're committed to it.
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And then it's hard to back off something you said.
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and you can catch it and, like, kill it in the crib,
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So it's easier to, you know, get it when they're young.
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So I said the political right can be diluted and wrong, too.
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this is something that applies to me and you equally.
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on the Republican side doesn't seem to be organized.
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It's people who genuinely believe what they believe.
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such as vaccinations, such as the election, et cetera.
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It's just people say, I don't trust this thing.
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I think there might be a conspiracy theory here.
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Trump said at his speech that Jimmy Carter is very happy.