Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2565 CWSA 08⧸13⧸24

00:00:00.000 and i don't mean trump's conversation with musk but we'll talk about that however if you'd like

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00:00:30.080 oh so good so so good well i know what you want to talk about you want to talk about that big event

00:00:44.280 on spaces on x last night where elon musk had a two hour or more conversation with the candidate trump

00:00:53.760 and you're all wondering scott what did you think about it well

00:01:00.080 well i think it was sort of a mixed bag so i'll tell you the good and the bad

00:01:08.080 i won't hold back so i started a little late uh elon musk came on and said there was a

00:01:15.220 massive denial of service attack which means somebody just hits the site a lot of times until

00:01:22.240 it's too busy so everybody else can't get in the wall street journal said uh right before the event

00:01:30.240 uh musk cited without evidence a massive ddos attack cited without evidence is the wall street

00:01:39.280 journal suggesting that elon musk lied about the technical problems i had at the show

00:01:45.760 how long do you have to watch elon musk in public talking about just about everything to know that

00:01:55.260 he wouldn't lie about that of all things he would lie about like well i can't think of anything he's

00:02:02.400 ever lied about he's been wrong a few times like everybody but what has he ever known the truth about

00:02:10.420 something and then said in public opposite of that truth is that even the thing no if if he would

00:02:19.620 certainly know if it was a denial of service attack and he would certainly tell you and if it wasn't

00:02:26.900 i'm sure he would say this is the first time we've tried something of this size

00:02:31.220 systems getting crashed why why would you even think that he would even be a little bit inclined to

00:02:37.380 lie about that even though it's his product yeah now normal people would lie maybe they'd spend it a

00:02:44.100 little bit he's not normal he spent like a gazillion dollars more than anybody should spend on the

00:02:50.580 website to to protect free speech he didn't do that so he could lie to you to me it's just weird that

00:02:57.620 you'd even suspect a lie in that context from him anyway so elana uh explained that he was looking for

00:03:06.820 something less adversarial and more conversational it is his theory was that you'll get to know the

00:03:14.980 candidate better if it's more of a casual conversation than a attack and response attack and response which

00:03:22.340 is a normal interview um i thought that was a terrific sounding idea there was a problem with it though

00:03:32.900 it's called donald trump so it turns out that when you remove the physical cues as in sitting in front of

00:03:41.460 somebody that person doesn't know when the conversation should move to the next topic

00:03:48.020 i think when you remove the physical cues you know where somebody indicates that they're ready for the next

00:03:53.700 question you know if you're in a conversation with the person in person uh they they'll start nodding

00:04:00.260 you know the nodding says yeah i got it i got it hurry up or yeah we said this before or or they'll

00:04:06.420 look at their notes like they're ready to go to the next question or something so there are a lot of

00:04:10.660 physical cues that were not available for the conversation and i think what that created

00:04:17.860 was a let's say uh a conversation that didn't have guardrails meaning that neither participant knew

00:04:26.420 how long something should go you know when do you when do you stop doing whatever you're doing and do

00:04:32.420 something else you know some of the normal cues of conversation were missing and trump did what trump

00:04:40.580 does which is if there's an empty space he fills it completely i mean you you wouldn't even like him if

00:04:49.860 he didn't do that uh trump says if you're going to leave free money on the table i'll pick it up

00:04:56.340 if there's a silence i'll fill it with my message so you hear my message so because the phone is a

00:05:03.860 terrible way to interrupt somebody and normal conversations have interruptions where if somebody's

00:05:10.500 going on too long the other person will kind of cut in you know and maybe the cutting in would be the

00:05:16.180 your your signal that maybe that answer is going on too long but uh elon didn't really have the

00:05:22.900 option of cutting in one because it's trump but the other is that i don't know if the technology lets

00:05:29.460 you interrupt you know when you're on the phone sometimes you can't hear the interrupter and there's

00:05:34.260 a little time lag and something so i think he didn't have probably didn't have the option of interrupting

00:05:39.940 which allowed trump to simply make of it what he wanted to make of it and so to me it was trump's

00:05:47.380 stump speech and the things he usually says and went on way too long because you know musk to his credit

00:05:56.500 was testing out a new a new way of doing something so let me say something about that

00:06:00.980 because nobody had ever done something quite like this which is somebody like elon musk you know who's

00:06:09.860 like him nobody talking to somebody like trump with an extended conversation i love that musk took a

00:06:18.500 chance on this if this had gone terrible or this had gone great i would love it because this is what we

00:06:26.260 need more of somebody having an idea hey i have an idea of how we can improve the communication or

00:06:33.860 anything let's try it out if it doesn't work it will only embarrass me now that's the attitude

00:06:42.740 what's more perfect than that if you're going to learn anything from last night had nothing to do with

00:06:48.500 anything trump said if you're going to learn one thing it's learn how to put yourself in a place where

00:06:55.300 you could be embarrassed but if it worked out everybody would be ahead that's perfect you

00:07:03.140 you want you want a million of that um you don't want the people who are just playing it safe all the

00:07:08.500 time right this wasn't the biggest risk so he just puts himself out there maybe this will work maybe it

00:07:14.500 won't we'll see what happens now to be honest i think it didn't work more than it worked

00:07:20.500 you know i'll give you some details on that but it's still genius it's still brilliant it's still

00:07:26.820 brave it's still right in terms of a system if you think of it in terms of a goal you know what was the

00:07:34.340 goal or like the goal would be a nice informative you know tell you something you didn't know get more

00:07:41.140 people involved you know that might have been the goal but but if you think of it as a system and i think

00:07:46.820 musk probably thinks more like systems you say to yourself the current systems for information are

00:07:52.820 incomplete what would you do about that well what you do about that is test some new systems so that's

00:08:00.420 what he did it's kind of perfect from a system perspective from a goal perspective did you nail

00:08:08.580 exactly what you hoped you would nail well somewhat you know partial i'll say partial success but some

00:08:16.340 risk let's talk about that first of all i've got great questions about how many people experienced it

00:08:24.100 because the numbers are all over the place i think there are 1.3 million people listening live which is a

00:08:31.940 lot but not you know world changing number but apparently 77 million had some kind of an impression

00:08:40.020 meaning they at least sampled it i guess but a lot of people have some audio problems and the denial of

00:08:45.780 service thing probably you know they tried a few times and couldn't get in and probably quit and uh i

00:08:52.260 think elon said there was something like a billion interactions you know if you count the secondary effect

00:08:58.180 a lot of people had viewing parties and they streamed it on their stream and and all that which by the

00:09:03.860 way i love the fact that elon didn't seem to be wanting to hammer anybody who was rebroadcasting it

00:09:13.700 now in theory musk could have said hey this is our content you know the only people who can watch

00:09:19.380 it are the people watching it natively not somebody watching somebody else's podcast which is also

00:09:25.220 watching it he could have but that's not that's not the way he rolls i i think he wanted maximum

00:09:31.620 free speech maximum reach again from a systems perspective 100 the right decision let let people

00:09:40.500 let people have fun with it let just let it out there let people do whatever they want with it

00:09:45.460 and the more people will see it so that was perfect as well so i thought trump uh went on too long

00:09:53.860 sort of went into his stump speech and complaining about his usual things and his usual hyperbole and

00:09:59.780 his insults for the other people a lot of things we'd seen before and way too much about the border

00:10:06.980 just way too much and i think that was what the experiment found is if you don't have a little bit

00:10:14.420 of structure on it somebody as uh as verbose and opportunistic as trump is just going to fill all

00:10:22.100 the space and that's pretty much what he did for about two hours all right here's the biggest issue

00:10:28.900 in my opinion um some say that there was something wrong with the audio because apparently there's a known

00:10:36.340 problem with the hosts of the spaces uh having some compression problem and it will sometimes make

00:10:44.980 them sound like they have dentures or make them sound like they're slurring so i was listening to it and

00:10:52.100 my first take was this could end trump's entire campaign that's how bad i thought it was because

00:10:59.540 um i didn't know what it was when i heard it i thought why does it sound like he has his dentures

00:11:06.180 are loose or he slurring so he would be talking normally like this and then suddenly you'll be

00:11:11.700 flirting a little bit like this and you sound like maybe his dentures were falling out and then he'd go

00:11:17.300 back to normal talking and i was sitting there thinking what the hell is this there's nothing we've ever

00:11:24.340 heard before like not even a little bit you know when when uh biden was going all dementia you could

00:11:32.180 see it for years a little bit so that when it when it got bad anybody who'd been paying attention said

00:11:40.500 well there's the natural progression of what we've been watching for five years so no surprise but there's

00:11:46.980 no there's no hint of this in anything trump's ever done before so it would be highly unusual that he

00:11:56.500 has some kind of weird lispy loose dentures i don't think he has dentures by the way um or that he had

00:12:03.060 dental work and didn't mention it if he had dental work he certainly would have known his own voice was

00:12:08.740 weird and he would have mentioned it i think that's fair now what i was worried about is not that there was

00:12:16.020 something wrong with trump although i did worry about that i guess let me take that back i didn't

00:12:21.380 worry about it up until somebody said oh that's a microphone thing yeah we're aware of that that's a

00:12:27.620 that's a known effect from exactly that situation a host on spaces people say that's a known thing i don't

00:12:36.100 know i can't can't uh can't confirm it from my own impressions but apparently vivek sounded like that

00:12:44.180 a little bit and we know he doesn't have that slur so i can't confirm what caused it my suspicion is

00:12:53.380 microphone compression but i've never heard of that and i've never heard other people have it so i don't

00:12:59.620 know what i do know is from a political perspective it might be one of the most damaging things i've ever

00:13:05.460 seen in politics because if you look at what the democrats are saying their entire messaging is he's

00:13:12.500 slurring he's got mental problems he's old uh it's bad now i guess the good news is that our news is so

00:13:23.620 siloed that unless you go look for it you would never see it if you're a republican you just never

00:13:29.460 even see that the democrats universally are saying he's slurring and rambling and i think rambling and

00:13:35.860 slurring were the words that they were settling on for their attacks and let me tell you if you saw

00:13:42.740 if you just listen to a clip or you listen to part of it and then you heard their interpretation

00:13:49.220 that he was slurring and rambling you would hear slurring and rambling and it would make you wonder

00:13:56.260 what's going on so i thought it was i mean there there was literally a point where i said to my audience

00:14:04.420 because i was watching it live as well um it might end is actually end his campaign it was actually

00:14:10.900 that bad in my opinion now the the thing working against that is that people believe what they want

00:14:19.540 to believe and they've already made up their decision that there might be zero people who

00:14:24.020 change their vote because of this i don't think it would matter what he did and you can say that

00:14:29.620 about any other candidate at this point in the race everybody's made up their mind right the so

00:14:36.900 i heard him slurring is that going to change my vote no is is there anybody listening to this is

00:14:44.500 there even one person who listened to that and then changed their vote is there one person even one

00:14:50.980 person who said you know i was all in for trump but then i heard that microphone slurring thing and

00:14:56.980 changed my mind no because if he comes out and does his speech today and he talks in his normal trump

00:15:03.060 way well that's the end of it so the sooner he says something in public and we get it on audio and it

00:15:10.580 sounds perfect and i think it will i mean i'm pretty sure it's a microphone problem but uh the sooner he

00:15:17.700 does that the better because we we need to you know he needs to erase that memory from the public as soon as

00:15:24.500 possible and it would be ideal if if he knew what the problem was it would be ideal if he got somebody

00:15:32.260 who is a engineer to create a tweet and maybe even demonstrate it say look here here's this uh slurring

00:15:42.420 thing here's an example of somebody who doesn't slur you can hear the audio of them originally now here

00:15:48.100 is them going through the compression you can see this this is what happened to trump and then have trump

00:15:53.780 repost it and say you know look at those lying democrats saying that there was a problem

00:16:00.900 but i think he needs to do it soon so if there's anybody who's an engineer who's ever tested this

00:16:07.940 and by the way i'm not 100 sure what's going on so if you think i'm saying i know that it was a

00:16:13.860 microphone problem i definitely don't know that that's not my area of expertise and i hadn't seen it

00:16:19.620 before so i have no background to have an opinion one way or the other i just think it's more likely

00:16:25.860 because it would be weird if this is the one time he had massive slurring now the good news is that trump

00:16:31.940 doesn't drink how good news is that talk about you know adding to the list of reasons not to drink

00:16:41.460 if if trump was known if anybody even thought he'd ever had a drink you would have thought he was drunk

00:16:48.420 just because the voice compression problem so i love the fact that not a single person

00:16:56.260 said he sounded drunk if literally if that had been any other human being i would have said hmm

00:17:03.380 i think drunk but i love the fact that trump is so famously a non-drinker non-druggy non-cigarettes

00:17:11.140 that doesn't even come up i mean if you're going to pick one positive that's a pretty big positive

00:17:18.100 actually i do love the fact that as a role model yeah maybe he's a little he's got some habits that

00:17:27.620 you wouldn't want to copy but that's a good one the staying off the alcohol um let's see what else we

00:17:37.140 got going so it was long and i thought it was uh extra boring i i think uh musk had a little trouble

00:17:44.020 ending it or knowing when to end some of it was not wanting to force the ending just to let it have a

00:17:49.300 natural end and i think trump trump ended up ending it himself and some of it is how do you stop him

00:17:56.340 from talking and some of it is maybe thinking you hadn't gotten some good stuff yet so the longer you

00:18:02.580 talk the more good stuff you'd get but here's some takeaways uh both musk and uh trump mispronounced

00:18:12.740 kamala harris's name they both called her kamala and uh you know i i just don't know what to to do

00:18:22.580 about that um because i spent a lot of time mispronouncing her name and i'm pretty sure it

00:18:28.420 wasn't out of racism because i really like to say people's names correctly you know whether i like them

00:18:34.820 or not i think saying somebody's name correctly is it's like way up there in importance if i can do it

00:18:40.740 you know there's some i can't pronounce like chamath whose last name will always always get away from

00:18:46.980 me but uh i like to say them right when i can but it's just weird that it's almost impossible for

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00:19:35.300 as an energy need of the future uh they had an interesting back and forth about climate change

00:19:42.100 um i would i would say that musk he did a really good job of explaining his view on climate change

00:19:50.180 and i heard something i've never heard before so generally speaking musk thinks that you know we

00:19:55.300 don't want to be radically getting rid of our fossil fuels because first of all we have enough time

00:20:01.620 probably to transition and survive any climate changes if there are but he also thinks that uh

00:20:09.700 you know we should be leaning hard in the direction of of alternate sources he thinks solar will be the

00:20:15.780 dominant source of energy at some point in the future i think that depends entirely upon how quickly

00:20:21.460 you build nuclear power plants but he he has a he has an interest in solar because it's part of his

00:20:28.580 business so i wouldn't take it too seriously when somebody who sells solar says solar might be the

00:20:35.620 primary source of energy in the future i'm not quite sold on that but you understand the context he's a

00:20:41.940 person in that in that industry and he might be right by the way that i'm not saying he's wrong um

00:20:49.780 but one of the things that musk added that i never heard is that if your co2 reaches a certain level

00:20:55.380 it becomes hard to breathe have you ever heard that why is that the first time i've ever heard that

00:21:03.140 that and he doesn't think we're especially close to that level but you know maybe in the 50 100 year

00:21:10.580 range we might have some noticeable difference in our breathing that would be pretty scary

00:21:16.180 so i've never heard that before um what i did think is that uh i heard people say that it's amazing how

00:21:27.300 trump could speak on every topic and what i thought is that he can bullshit on every topic

00:21:35.300 one of the things that trump does well is something that i always recommend to other people if they want

00:21:40.740 to learn how to bullshit better if there's any complicated topic let's say ai and you want to

00:21:47.380 you know you're going to be in conversations about it in the case of trump he knows he's going to be

00:21:51.620 interviewed you only need to learn a couple things and then you make sure that you put those things into

00:21:58.180 your limited conversation time and it will sound like you know more than you know so trump does this

00:22:03.940 with ai he says you know ai could double the amount of uh power we need now i don't know

00:22:13.300 will it i mean i i think he's directionally correct about that but that doesn't take really an expert

00:22:21.940 that's just a headline you read once oh ai will double our energy need but it's so smart when trump

00:22:29.860 uh lays down a little fact like that because first of all it's probably the most important fact you know

00:22:35.380 other than the ai existential threat itself that we all know but not everybody knows that the power draw

00:22:42.260 will be not just a lot but like oh my god a lot like i don't know if we can do it a lot like crazy a lot

00:22:51.780 and the fact that trump knows that and puts it out there first uh first of all choose up the time that

00:22:58.420 you might have talked about ai and when you're done you think well that trump he's he's pretty

00:23:03.860 plugged in he knew that important fact about ai it might be the only fact he knows now i'm exaggerating

00:23:11.540 i mean i'm sure he knows nvidia is making the chips and he knows that it's the most important

00:23:15.780 thing for the future and he knows china is trying to catch up you know basic stuff but when he throws

00:23:20.740 in that little thing about energy it just makes him look like he's a little bit more plugged in than

00:23:24.580 he probably is which is good technique so yes trump can on basically every topic because he does this

00:23:33.780 trick he finds that one little nugget of knowledge that makes him look like he's dug in and then he

00:23:40.180 gives it to you and he fills up all the time and then like wow he could talk about anything so it's a

00:23:47.380 good uh communication and political technique we don't know how deep he can go um then uh musk pitched

00:23:55.940 an idea which in some ways makes me think that was his primary purpose for doing this but uh musk said

00:24:02.020 uh i think it would be great to have a government efficiency commission that ensures that the taxpayer

00:24:08.340 money the taxpayers hardening money is spent in a good way and then musk said i'd be happy to help

00:24:13.780 out on such a commission now he pitched it two or three times and i think the first one or two times

00:24:23.700 trump just sort of ignored it and said what he wanted to say and so elon circled back to it and you

00:24:32.100 know made sure that he got a response on it and trump's response was uh i'd love it uh you know well

00:24:38.100 you're the greatest cutter and he's talked about how elon musk has cut expenses in his own companies

00:24:46.180 um i did not get the sense that trump loved the idea and thought it had potential i got the sense

00:24:54.020 that he was politely talking to somebody who was offering a service and you you know you never want

00:25:00.100 to say no to that especially your your host who has invited you onto his platform so to me it looked

00:25:06.180 like a polite answer but did not indicate any real interest in pursuing it so i think it sort of died

00:25:15.380 from neglect that day and the other possibility is that trump is in political mode where he should be

00:25:25.620 and he knows that if he starts making talking about cuts or even starts talking about having a commission

00:25:33.380 with musk on it to talk about cuts that's that the democrats would say what will the democrats say

00:25:41.460 the democrats would immediately turn that into um elon musk is helping trump cut vital social services

00:25:51.860 which nobody said but they could easily spin it into that so i think trump was uh politically astute

00:26:00.100 enough to know that agreeing on you know unambiguously yes we'll we'll form this commission you can be on

00:26:07.140 it uh that would list that would sound like you're all losing your jobs in the government and your social

00:26:13.700 security will get cut doesn't mean any of that would be true but that's how it would get spun so i think

00:26:21.300 maybe trump's instinct to hit a light touch on that the the question about that commission should only be

00:26:31.060 discussed after he's elected and he doesn't have to get elected again then you've got something you know

00:26:38.820 give me a lame duck uh lame duck trump with an efficiency commission where he'll never have to run for office

00:26:47.060 again oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah i want that i want a lot of that but before the election maybe maybe maybe

00:26:57.380 just a light touch on that just just to sort of suggest that you might be somewhat interested a little bit

00:27:03.700 it's about the right touch

00:27:07.220 anyway the propaganda networks like msnbc uh they just want to talk about all the times that

00:27:13.540 uh musk has posted untrue things and on the list of untrue things where these are unambiguously

00:27:21.060 untrue things that musk has in the past said on the x platform which proves that the x platform

00:27:26.740 cannot be trusted with anything honest says the msnbc person he actually says that the immigration

00:27:36.340 current immigration is to replace voters the voter replacement theory

00:27:43.540 so that was their example of something that musk has said that is unambiguously

00:27:47.780 not true um i think it's observably true i think it's the most obviously observably true thing

00:28:00.900 you've ever seen in america how in the world is this not true

00:28:04.980 uh i believe we have people on the record saying that they have that it's it benefits the uh the

00:28:15.300 census you know you might get more representation in blue areas if they're just more population there

00:28:21.780 um clearly they're being registered to vote clearly the democrats have rejected any uh legislation that would

00:28:31.220 deny them the right to vote meaning the people were non-citizens

00:28:36.660 i would say it's the most objectively obviously true thing in american history

00:28:42.820 now there might be other reasons that people are in favor of unrestricted or relatively unrestricted

00:28:49.620 immigration but clearly the voting part is part of it i mean i i can't think of anything that's more

00:28:57.140 obviously true and what would be the argument that is not true i mean the numbers are the numbers and

00:29:04.660 they do get mailing uh they get mail-in ballots so some would say it's so they can vote others would

00:29:11.940 say it's so they can harvest the the ballots that the uh non-citizens were never planning to use

00:29:20.100 but now that they have them they can fill somebody else can fill them out mail them in who knows um

00:29:27.700 but of course the uh the eu uh one of their officials uh this theory you breton guy or teary breton or

00:29:37.380 tyree breton or tyrant breton i don't know how to say his name but he settled sent this big official

00:29:43.860 looking letter to elon musk before the conversation with trump and it was a big bureaucratic letter i

00:29:52.100 could barely get through but the idea was that the european union is watching the x platform because

00:29:59.940 they think it's a disinformation spreader and maybe you know dangerous different disinformation that could

00:30:06.900 make things violent and they warned that conversation with trump might be more of that

00:30:14.820 and could certainly work against x's interests of staying in business now imagine that now what was

00:30:23.300 musk's uh response to that uh something like shove it up your ass but there was certainly nothing on the

00:30:31.220 um conversation with trump that is even slightly dangerous i didn't see it i didn't hear anything

00:30:39.220 dangerous but misinformation is what every conversation with every politician is

00:30:47.940 do they imagine that if if uh harris had been the the person who by the way is invited

00:30:53.700 so musk made sure that kamala harris has the same opportunity

00:30:56.900 um but every politician lies pretty much every time they go on television

00:31:04.980 in ways that everybody can tell so what is the european union going to do about the fact that

00:31:10.500 every politician lies every time they're on television or any time they're recorded

00:31:16.420 it's not like trump is the one guy doing it so

00:31:20.660 uh this seems to be the way that uh the american spooks are controlling european entities to control

00:31:31.220 american politics so musk is the only one holding out against incredible pressure and i imagine this

00:31:39.060 is going to get really expensive for him he might even use lose the european market entirely

00:31:46.660 so the european union i don't know i think the united states should threaten them but of course our

00:31:54.020 government is on their side if i were president trump let's say he gets elected if that happened

00:32:01.460 i think we would have to tell the european union that if they censor us if they try to censor

00:32:07.620 american free speech that will remove all funding from nato too strong

00:32:15.940 uh i i don't see any scenario in which i would protect europe while they're removing our free speech

00:32:22.420 let me say that directly there's no scenario in which i would be willing to protect europe

00:32:28.820 from anything if they're actively trying to suppress free speech in my country

00:32:34.420 no if you're attacking my country i'm gonna side with russia

00:32:38.260 sorry russia is not attacking my country but europe is that this is a this is an attack on my basic freedoms

00:32:50.260 so if europe isn't attacking me and russia is not even though russia has a pretty good reason to attack

00:32:56.660 and they're not is it wrong that i would side with russia

00:33:00.900 now i'm being a little hyperbolic of course when you take this out of context somebody will take it

00:33:07.460 out of context this is hyperbole right uh but you need to take it seriously uh i'm not so sure this

00:33:17.940 wasting money on nato makes sense when europe is attacking the united states period that's how seriously

00:33:25.460 i take it i would i would say we're just going to cut all your funding and we'll just make sure that

00:33:30.180 the united states can close its borders and you know good luck you're lost

00:33:37.540 anyway again that's hyperbole obviously we would prefer a strong relationship with europe

00:33:42.420 uh the washington post um they've got a uh so they're at the white house presser the washington

00:33:53.060 posts uh cleave woodson he's a reporter i guess and he said this he said uh elon musk is slated to

00:34:00.500 interview uh donald trump tomorrow night so this is ahead of the event and he said i don't know if the

00:34:08.340 president is going to uh feel free to say if he is or not but i i think that's misinformation on twitter

00:34:16.420 is not just a campaign issue it's a you know it's a america issue what role does the white house or the

00:34:23.460 president have any sort of stopping that or stopping the spread of that sort of inter intervening in that

00:34:31.140 some of what was about campaign and misinformation but you know it's a wider thing right

00:34:38.340 now i'm not going to say he's a dei hire

00:34:47.060 but you're terrible people so you're going to say it

00:34:51.460 this is massively incompetent in public massively incompetent how in the world did this guy get a job

00:35:01.540 anything anything anything now would i be would i be mocking him if he were a white man yes yes

00:35:13.700 he appears to be incompetent at his basic job and he's suggesting that the white house should end

00:35:19.620 free speech if they don't like it because uh because trump might say something that's misinformation

00:35:24.260 misinformation as if kamala harris and joe biden have never said anything that's misinformation

00:35:29.620 how in the world did this guy get a job are you freaking kidding me now remember my um

00:35:38.420 my uh prediction that if you've got a woke company and they have to do the dei thing

00:35:44.580 and they're just not enough people in the pool of people that they have to pick they don't stop

00:35:51.700 picking they just lower their they lower their standards until they can be diverse because that's

00:35:57.700 their highest priority washington post would be you know right at the top of the dei uh you know totem

00:36:05.060 poll so of course they've got to try extra hard and the predictable outcome is what wildly incompetent

00:36:14.420 staff now to me this looked like an example of a wildly incompetent staff

00:36:21.620 it might not be a dei problem is there any proof that he was hired because of a dei issue no

00:36:29.300 none at all but it's your first question because they have a system which guarantees incompetence

00:36:37.460 eventually and then when you see the incompetence and it's so glaringly obvious

00:36:42.820 are you going to not say well there was a thing that predicted that and it had nothing to do with

00:36:49.060 race has nothing to do with gender has nothing to do with your genes your culture has only to do with

00:36:56.340 supply and demand if there's not enough supply in the short term they're still going to hire even if

00:37:03.140 the supply is lacking they'll just lower their standards until they meet their diversity so that's

00:37:08.340 what it looks like but do we know that's what happened no no we don't

00:37:15.300 all right uh kamala harris is on the cover of uh time magazine but when time magazine asked her for

00:37:23.300 an interview she said no

00:37:27.620 do you know why time magazine puts somebody on the cover

00:37:30.740 well partly it's you know to get eyeballs and the usual reason that a publication does anything

00:37:38.180 but here's the other reason so that they'll do an interview if time magazine says we're going to make

00:37:44.420 you the cover you're supposed to say yes to the interview that's how that works

00:37:50.260 it was like but when my little college uh invited me back after dilbert became kind of a big thing in

00:37:58.740 the 90s my college i graduated from hartwick college in oneonta new york before i went to berkeley

00:38:06.020 uh they they decided i would be named the outstone outstanding young alumnus

00:38:12.260 so i was like wow that's quite an honor and of all the people who graduated they think i'm the

00:38:19.780 outstanding one for young young people so they invited me to come give a speech they thought wow

00:38:28.740 wow what an honor i got invited to give a speech at my college and i'm going to be like a returning hero

00:38:35.060 and uh are you going to tell me what went wrong before i tell you because you all know right

00:38:43.700 because i was very young i was not wise with the ways of the world when i found out my friend got a

00:38:50.340 great deal on a wool coat from winners i started wondering is every fabulous item i see from winners

00:38:57.300 like that woman over there with the designer jeans are those from winners ooh are those beautiful gold

00:39:03.140 earrings did she pay full price or that leather tote or that cashmere sweater or those knee-high boots

00:39:08.980 that dress that jacket those shoes is anyone paying full price for anything stop wondering

00:39:15.700 start winning winners find fabulous for less the reason that they name you the outstanding young

00:39:22.580 alumnus is they think that they can get more money out of you if they name you the outstanding young

00:39:27.780 alumnus it's just a fundraising thing has nothing to do with any respect they had for

00:39:33.060 you as a graduate so i was so dumb i flew all the way to new york to give this little speech that

00:39:41.060 nobody listened to and it was all just to basically you rope me in and turn me into a massive donor and

00:39:48.420 the whole thing was just ridiculous so i never fell for that again were there other organizations that said

00:39:56.660 hey we'd like to give you an award yes there were do you know how i handled those no thanks oh but um

00:40:06.100 maybe you don't understand we we have this prestigious award and we just voted to give it to you

00:40:13.220 so that's why we're inviting you to come speak because it's a big honor for you and i would say that's great

00:40:20.660 no thanks so that's why i handed it in the future anyway so kamala was on the cover of time magazine

00:40:28.420 and she still said no which tells you that their strategy of keeping you from hearing anything that

00:40:34.580 she says spontaneously that she's not reading is still in play and i'm gonna say again

00:40:41.940 it's brilliant yeah the the longer they go without you hearing her make a mistake the longer you'll

00:40:51.140 think that any mistake she makes is just some kind of weird oddity and nothing you need to take too

00:40:56.820 seriously it's like oh maybe she just had a bad day so but if she came out of the gate you know

00:41:03.780 blathering and cackling and acting like her usual self you would say well why did we pick her

00:41:10.580 they just have to keep you quiet for a month without hearing well keep her quiet from a month in terms of

00:41:17.220 spontaneous challenging interviews and you will form strong opinions her supporters will that will not

00:41:24.980 be changed if she says something in public that doesn't sound too good i hate that this is such a good

00:41:32.980 strategy it shouldn't work you know in the world that you want to live in having your candidate not

00:41:41.300 talk in any challenging situation should be the last thing that you would look to as something you

00:41:47.220 would support you think even democrats would say all right all right look you know you had biden

00:41:52.980 who couldn't talk to anybody you replace you replace him with harris who can't have a conversation and

00:41:59.460 you want me to vote for that you're asking me to vote for the second candidate in a row who can't talk in

00:42:05.860 public the most basic thing a president needs to do you think that all common sense says that they'd be

00:42:13.300 out like well i'm out but if they're out trump wins and they can't abide that so they're gonna twist their

00:42:22.100 brains into whatever pretzels they need them to be so they can say she's great and not hearing from

00:42:28.740 her in a spontaneous way for a month is really good strategy for that they might also be coaching her

00:42:36.740 to see if they can get her to be you know more coherent in public meanwhile uh the kamala hq account

00:42:47.060 which i think is an official account of the harris campaign um they posted this seven years ago today

00:42:55.860 white supremacists and neo-nazis marched on charlottesville chanting racist and anti-semitic

00:43:01.140 bile and killing an innocent woman this is who donald trump calls quote very fine people

00:43:09.060 now i would like to suggest that republicans use the following standard now that snopes has debunked it and

00:43:16.580 by the way the trump war room that's a also an official account um said of it it's a lie that has been so

00:43:24.900 thoroughly and exhaustively debunked that repeating it insults the intelligence of the american people

00:43:31.060 every time anyone gets fact well this was me sorry here's my opinion anytime a republican gets fact

00:43:40.020 checked they should ask the entity that did the fact checking to fact check the fine people hoax

00:43:48.100 and i would use that as the key to help democrats understand which fake news is fake so if i were

00:43:56.580 interviewed and somebody says you know president trump said 15 things that are not true what do you say

00:44:02.020 about that i would say did your network debunk the fine people hoax or did it report it like it was true

00:44:10.820 well we're not talking about me we're talking about president trump i know but you're the one who's

00:44:16.260 judging whether he told the truth we'd like to see if you're good at judging who tells the truth

00:44:21.940 do you believe that he once said that neo-nazis are fine people well it's not about me it's a no

00:44:29.300 it is about you you're the one who's judging who's telling the truth can you judge the simplest most

00:44:36.500 debunked hoax the most important and dangerous one in ever american history did you tell your audience

00:44:43.540 that that none of that was true because biden ran an entire campaign on it did you ever mention that

00:44:48.900 it wasn't true well keep stop trying to change the subject to me it's not about it's not no it is about

00:44:55.380 you it's very much about you that's what i would do if i were a republican i wouldn't let anybody do

00:45:02.500 any fact checking if they're not willing to fact check that all right uh axios which we

00:45:15.140 i would say uh i wouldn't consider that an objective source of news let's put it that way

00:45:20.820 but they're reporting that crime was lower under biden than under trump but one of the trump

00:45:28.020 communication guys on the campaign dylan johnson tries to clear that up on x with the post so he

00:45:34.900 says so it may be true that in some cities some categories of violent crime are lower for the first

00:45:40.740 six months of 2024 compared to 2023 but violent crime is still way up compared to 2019 under trump

00:45:50.580 now let me tell you how people report fake statistics first of all all data is wrong

00:45:59.380 you know i i'll tell you that a million more times because you don't believe it yet you still think i

00:46:05.140 don't mean that you still think that's hyperbole don't you when i say all data is wrong all data is

00:46:11.940 wrong because there's always somebody who has a financial interest in presenting it otherwise you would never hear

00:46:17.860 it the only data you ever hear is data that someone who's collecting the data the same person who's in

00:46:26.900 charge of collecting it and presenting it has a financial interest or it could be a political interest

00:46:32.820 but that you know translates into financial as well so there's no such thing as just data

00:46:39.620 and there never will be there can't be because they're it's all collected by liars with financial

00:46:47.540 or political interest and those people have no incentive whatsoever to tell you the truth

00:46:52.660 they tell you some shaded version of the truth here's how you do it if there happened to be a pandemic

00:46:59.300 that happened during trump's administration and you know the pandemic itself was the reason that crime

00:47:05.540 went through the roof what you do is you pick the highest point of the pandemic which had not a lot

00:47:10.740 to do with trump's administration in terms of the crime and then you say well after the pandemic when

00:47:16.900 it was totally over crime's lower under biden so therefore logically biden's better on crime

00:47:24.020 because at the height of the pandemic there was more crime but as dylan johnson points out

00:47:32.580 a more reasonable comparison would be the normal the last normal year of trump 2019 compared to the

00:47:39.940 most recent normal year of biden if you compare their normal year to normal year uh things are worse

00:47:47.460 not better now i this is the same trick that stock funds use if somebody has a managed stock fund and

00:47:57.780 they say give me your money and i'll take some of your money but i'll invest the rest and you'll

00:48:03.220 make lots of money because i'm so good at investing and you as a consumer say how do i know you're good

00:48:08.100 at investing and they say well look at my statistics if you look at the if you look at from this quarter

00:48:15.140 to this quarter we were in the top 10 of all investing companies and then if you were to check their

00:48:22.100 numbers they would be that would be right and you'd say to yourself wow they did really kill the average

00:48:28.260 during that little period but guess what if you're guessing about stocks and which ones are going to

00:48:34.580 go up you should have have periods where you're way up and you beat the average periods where you're way

00:48:42.260 down and you're lower than the average and if you do a great job your your your average if you're up and

00:48:48.820 down beats the average almost no stock funds do that but they all say they do because they can all

00:48:55.540 pick a recent time when things went well for them so they say look at this period now let's say they

00:49:02.420 go five years where they didn't once beat the average what do they advertise then nothing they just don't

00:49:10.660 advertise they don't tell you what their record is when it's bad they just wait for a little period when

00:49:16.340 just by luck they had one stock that did well and they go look at how we beat everybody for this

00:49:21.700 little period so that's that's what uh the biden administration is doing with the crime data

00:49:28.660 here's a story i didn't even know was percolating but apparently there was some kind of court case in

00:49:32.980 new york where the judge issued an opinion that rfk jr's physical presence at his supposed new york place

00:49:41.300 of residence was virtually non-existent and she ruled that uh that that misrepresentation

00:49:50.180 disqualifies rfk jr from appearing on new york's general election ballot so if that doesn't get

00:49:57.780 reversed rfk jr will not appear on the new york ballot because somebody in new york said he misrepresented

00:50:05.380 his uh place of residence now keep in mind that

00:50:14.740 um his place of residence shouldn't have made any difference to the state of new york

00:50:22.420 uh how would it make a difference i can't think of how it makes a difference if you're running for

00:50:28.500 president can't you live in florida i'm pretty sure we have somebody running for president who

00:50:36.020 lives in florida so what the hell difference does it make if he misrepresented the amount of

00:50:42.500 time he spends in his new york home so they're just going to use the misrepresentation alleged

00:50:48.820 as a reason he can't be on the ballot at all i mean that doesn't even sound slightly

00:50:54.580 like the justice system working the way anybody would want it to is is there even one voter in new

00:51:00.580 york who thinks it makes sense not to have an option to vote for rfk jr because he said something about

00:51:06.500 his place of residence in new york how does anybody care about that absurd

00:51:15.860 well here's some good news um according to uh republican national committee chairman michael whatley

00:51:24.340 uh they've got 157 000 volunteers for their program to be poll watchers so that would be uh he's worked

00:51:34.660 with rnc co-chair woman lara trump now they had promised they were going to try to find a hundred

00:51:41.380 thousand recruits to volunteer for what they call their protect the vote program basically observers

00:51:48.580 so they tried to get a hundred thousand people

00:51:54.500 they already have 157 000

00:51:59.700 now i am prepared to be very proud of republicans it's too soon to say too soon to say

00:52:10.260 but one of the things i've always liked about republicans is that they quietly do the important

00:52:15.460 things instead of yelling about unimportant things i mean everybody does that too

00:52:20.420 but republicans are kind of it's almost built into their character how about i just quietly do this

00:52:29.540 thing you remember when the shy the so-called shy trump supporters were apparently lying to pollsters

00:52:36.420 and i kept telling you i feel like that's a republican thing i think they just all quietly know what they

00:52:45.220 need to do to you know make this a surprise and then they just do it because it's important and they can

00:52:53.620 so they do and it looks like maybe that's what happened but here's a case where i think republicans

00:53:02.740 really really understand that you're going to need a lot of observers that's not going to stop every

00:53:09.220 form of potential fraud but it's really really really important so what happens when republicans

00:53:16.980 know something's really important like not a joke like not hyperbole not politics just really basic

00:53:26.180 and important they show up here it is tried to get 100 000 got 157 000 so far like where is it going to

00:53:36.340 end do they have a they have an upper limit i don't even know maybe maybe there's too many but no republicans

00:53:43.380 are saying very clearly we don't trust this election tell me what to do and then laura trump and

00:53:49.780 uh michael watley tell them what to do and then they do it good job so if this turns out to be the key

00:54:01.220 and if it makes a difference in the election in a positive way or even if they find some you know

00:54:06.900 big discrepancy that wouldn't have been found before i'm just going to be really impressed

00:54:13.300 because you know we live in a country where you don't expect things to work you know we just stopped

00:54:18.020 expecting basic competence but this is starting to shape up like a pocket of high competence in a

00:54:27.220 world where that's rare now i told you that laura trump in particular is a wild card in the election

00:54:35.780 i think she's just so capable and you're working with uh uh whatley um and of course he gets credit as

00:54:43.380 well uh this might make a big difference now i'll re-up my idea that there should be a bounty or a

00:54:50.820 payment for whistleblowers so that anybody who sees something wrong with the election can come forward

00:54:56.420 and get a big payment but importantly that that should be introduced before the election you don't

00:55:06.020 want to introduce that idea after the election you want to do it before and here's why

00:55:12.100 almost every form of cheating has at least one accomplice you want everybody to look at their

00:55:18.180 accomplice and say okay we're getting paid a thousand dollars to do this whatever it is hypothetically

00:55:27.780 but you'll make a million dollars if you turn me in so if you turn me in

00:55:33.140 you'll probably get some amnesty and a million dollars i will just go to jail

00:55:41.860 so it's going to be kind of hard to find an accomplice that you trust because if you're

00:55:46.580 doing this at all you're both criminals do you trust criminals a criminal who could make a million

00:55:53.460 dollars and they're already they're already violating a major law for a thousand dollars

00:56:00.980 of course they take the million to turn you in and put you in jail of course they would

00:56:05.540 so you could completely disrupt their operation

00:56:09.940 by making sure that the whistleblowers know that they could get paid after the election

00:56:16.020 that's how i'd play it claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament i've been visualizing my

00:56:21.220 match all week she was so focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column behind her car

00:56:26.500 on her backhand side good thing claudia's with intact the insurer with the largest network of

00:56:32.420 auto service centers in the country everything was taken care of under one roof and she was on her

00:56:37.060 way in a rental car in no time i made it to my tournament and lost in the first round but you

00:56:42.900 got there on time intact insurance your auto service ace certain conditions apply here's some

00:56:50.740 important news about russia according to the financial times russia has trained its navy uh-oh

00:56:56.660 they're training its navy to target sites deep within europe with nuclear capable missiles

00:57:02.260 in a potential conflict with nato wait are you telling me that russia had never thought

00:57:12.820 of training their navy had to target their potential enemy i feel like that's basic

00:57:21.220 i feel like this is a story that's a non-story is this just to make us feel bad about russia

00:57:26.820 i mean this this is kind of the story where i say to myself didn't a hundred percent of you know

00:57:33.380 that everybody with nuclear weapons is training their side to target their potential enemies

00:57:41.620 there's literally no news here it just makes you feel a certain way which makes me think it's just

00:57:47.860 propaganda here's something fun uh the atlanta journal constitution one of atlanta's papers

00:57:56.820 maybe the only one uh they had this headline with a with a subtitle not too long ago

00:58:04.740 and the headline was this reinvestigation of fulton's 2020 election ordered by georgia election

00:58:11.860 board and then the sub subheading was uh fraud hasn't been found but republican majority demands the

00:58:20.260 answer oh man those damn republicans am i right there's no fraud found and they're still demanding

00:58:29.700 some kind of action because you know they just can't let it go they just love those republicans so

00:58:36.420 so doubtful so distrustful there's no fraud but oh wait it turns out they had to update their subtitle

00:58:47.620 because uh the fraud had been found so here's the revised they revised their subtitle on the headline

00:58:56.020 to republican majority on state election board seeks further inquiry of double counted votes

00:59:02.660 because it's a fact that there were double counted votes

00:59:14.260 now if you're a democrat

00:59:19.060 and you see the first headline fraud hasn't been found but those damn republicans keep asking for

00:59:25.380 for investigations you would say you know my msnbc told me this back in 2020 that everything was fine

00:59:33.140 and it's just the republicans being jerks

00:59:37.700 but what if you knew that there definitely were double counted votes does that change how you think

00:59:44.820 about any of this well here's the thing people uh there might be some cases i guess they'll find out

00:59:54.900 in which some some votes might have been double counted maybe they ran something through the machine

01:00:00.580 more than once maybe but at least we can trust that once things get into the machines whether it's the vote

01:00:08.420 or the ballot uh that everything's good once it gets in the machines right because we've been told that we

01:00:16.420 have very secure systems the the election machines and the ballot counting machines all very secure very secure

01:00:26.660 next story uh politico is writing an article um about there there was a hackers convention

01:00:35.780 in which at least part of one part of it is they take a bunch of machines that are used currently in elections

01:00:43.460 and then they see if the hackers who are gathered can hack them but thank goodness our elections have

01:00:50.580 machines that can't be hacked and if in the unlikely event that somebody found a problem with one

01:00:58.100 well they would immediately fix it right i mean even if a hacker did get in the information

01:01:04.900 would be given to the company the company would say whoa we didn't know about that but we'll

01:01:09.460 we'll put a update patch in there and we'll take care of that right away right wait right no no what

01:01:20.580 in the comments i'm saying you don't think that would happen you don't think if the in the rarest

01:01:26.980 case a hacker found some problem you don't think the company would just immediately plug that hole

01:01:33.300 because there's an election coming well here's what actually happened turns out that all of the

01:01:40.180 machines uh well i don't know if it was all of them uh vulnerabilities were found uh quote

01:01:48.100 particularly troubling during the election year quote they found vulnerabilities in everything and

01:01:54.500 everything is in all caps they found vulnerabilities in everything from voting machines to e-poll books

01:02:03.300 everything everything in all caps every single technological part of our elections was hacked

01:02:12.340 for practice for fun just to see if they could do it every single electronic device got hacked by this

01:02:22.100 little room of hackers

01:02:23.060 so but at least as i'm saying we got we have months until the election so now that they've compiled

01:02:32.420 all these hacks they give them to the companies the companies quickly issue a

01:02:38.660 oh that's not happening why not why wouldn't they just patch all the machines it's just software

01:02:45.940 well turns out there's not enough time turns out that any kind of a change that would plug those holes

01:02:55.540 would be a fairly comprehensive change and it's not the sort of thing you could expect any company could

01:03:02.340 pull off and have everything updated by november so you know what they're going to do instead

01:03:07.940 just hold the election

01:03:17.060 they're going to hold the election after the hackers have i assume published where all the vulnerabilities are

01:03:25.460 this doesn't even sound real does it i saw on uh i think it was the uh george account george is

01:03:36.420 the user on x who's got a real good account you should follow george um but he found the article in politico

01:03:46.020 and you know posted about it but it wasn't a link so i thought i'll go to politico this looks like the

01:03:52.100 biggest story in the country so i go to the front page i'm like what george is pretty reliable and he

01:04:00.340 says politico has this big story about the election machines not being uh completely secure and i thought

01:04:08.420 oh i don't see it so i actually had to do a search on politico you know like with search terms and then

01:04:16.100 it came up so it wasn't a wasn't on the top page when i looked for it but there it was and uh here's

01:04:24.100 one of the quotes from one of the people involved somebody named hursty so this is somebody involved

01:04:31.460 in the the hacker thing i don't know if he was a hacker himself but he says quote if you don't think

01:04:36.260 this kind of place now what he what he means is the hackers had their own room where just the hackers and

01:04:43.300 the machines were so they had access to all the machines because they're all in the same room

01:04:48.020 he says if you don't think this kind of place is running 24 7 in china russia you're kidding

01:04:54.180 yourselves hursty said gesturing around the room of voting equipment we are here only oh my god

01:05:02.980 i can barely read this this is so so insane he goes quote we are here only for two and a half days

01:05:10.820 and we find stuff it would be stupid to assume that the adversaries don't have absolute access to

01:05:22.660 everything

01:05:26.260 so that's somebody who knows what he's talking about he's in the room with the equipment in the room

01:05:31.060 with the hackers he's all the way in and he says it would be stupid to assume that the adversaries

01:05:39.140 don't have absolute access

01:05:43.540 to everything

01:05:46.580 and they were testing to see if they could change the vote count without getting caught yup

01:05:55.460 why are we even having an election this doesn't make sense unless somebody has a counter to this i

01:06:03.060 don't know what it would be i mean they you know sometimes the counter is um the hackers used the

01:06:08.900 old versions of the software so it could be that it could be that they just didn't have access to the

01:06:16.340 brightest newest software and maybe they found some things that are already fixed that could be so i

01:06:21.220 i would wait for the other side there might be another side to this story

01:06:26.740 but remember when uh was it uh christopher ray head of the fbi uh give me a fact check on this but my

01:06:35.140 by memory i believe he suggested that china at the very least was already inside all of our most secure

01:06:43.620 infrastructure systems in the united states and the fact that they haven't crashed them

01:06:49.620 is only because they would worry about retaliation not because they couldn't

01:06:55.940 now if christopher ray says he is sure without having proof that china is inside all of our or most of

01:07:03.700 our infrastructure systems don't you think that means that america is inside their infrastructure

01:07:10.340 systems do you do you think that the fbi would tell you that our adversaries can get into all of our

01:07:16.500 systems and yet it would not be true that with our superior hackers at least that's what we're told

01:07:25.540 that we wouldn't be in our adversary systems to at least have a reply in case they try to crash something

01:07:33.460 doesn't that mean that our own internal intelligence people would also have full access to our systems

01:07:40.660 and aren't they the very same people who try to take over governments in other places it's sort of

01:07:48.260 their job the cia to make sure that friendly governments get installed in other countries

01:07:54.020 we've done it 80 different coups or something like that do you think that they wouldn't try to keep this

01:08:00.820 terrible populist end of office with a couple tweaks how would you know so let's see they would have the

01:08:09.780 the ability they would have the incentive and they would have very low chance of getting caught and

01:08:19.940 prosecuted

01:08:20.660 under those conditions how often does bad stuff happen they can do it easily they have a really

01:08:31.220 really high reason to do it like that they believe in their soul like they're saving america or saving

01:08:36.900 their own jobs like important stuff you know the the anti-trumpers in their minds it's the most important

01:08:42.980 thing in the world he's hitler he's gonna destroy everything you know and love so you have the highest level

01:08:48.900 incentive somewhat easy access to change it

01:08:55.620 and all the time in the world under what conditions does it not happen i can't think of any

01:09:04.820 i can't think of any situation in which that would not result in a rigged election like i can't even

01:09:10.660 think of a hypothetical what would what would the hypothetical look like it would look like this uh bob you

01:09:17.940 know we're gonna rig this election because we've got to save the country against this existential threat

01:09:23.300 called trump then bob says well i would have been on board yesterday but i had a near-death experience

01:09:31.780 and i talked to god in person and now i cannot lie well maybe but look how far you have to reach

01:09:39.940 to come with any scenario in which the election is not rigged that makes sense now i suppose if you

01:09:48.420 had a near-death experience and turned into a whistleblower and they didn't murder you right there

01:09:53.460 because they could i guess in some weird you know unlikely situation we could have a clean election

01:10:02.660 but the the design of the system largely guarantees it now when i say the design of the system

01:10:11.300 i don't just mean the election system i mean design of america as a system because right now the news

01:10:18.260 is telling us that hitler might come to office and get re-elected we didn't notice he was hitler the

01:10:24.020 first time first four years we didn't notice it's just so crazy but um i don't know it's kind of tough

01:10:33.060 to uh it's tough to feel that the election would be true so i'm going to double down on my prediction

01:10:41.700 i don't think that the outcome no matter what it is no matter which way it goes the election i don't

01:10:46.820 think it will be trusted by the people who lose so if democrats lose they'll think it's rigged one way

01:10:53.140 or the other and vice versa so i don't know how we're going to have a transfer of power

01:11:01.860 of any kind how could it possibly happen

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01:11:24.180 wow according to george the one i was talking about he says uh breaking thousands of british

01:11:30.420 patriots gathered in london to support trump saying his victory is needed across the world wow

01:11:38.260 uh huh i don't know if thousands is enough i mean thousands isn't is not a lot but uh we'll see

01:11:52.500 all right uh there's some uh documents according to the daily wire some documents have been found

01:11:57.940 they explain how the soros network not only uh funds candidates to get them in office you know

01:12:04.420 the attorney generals etc but after it gets them in office apparently it stays connected to them and

01:12:12.500 sort of keeps training them and influencing them so it's not just that soros gets people that think

01:12:19.700 like him in office once in office they have a formal way to continue influencing them because of course

01:12:27.380 they'd like to stay in office and they'd like to get funded for their next campaign so basically soros has

01:12:32.980 found a way to simply buy uh local officials and they spent 117 million since 2016 to reshape america's

01:12:44.100 justice system uh three in ten americans now live under a soros prosecutor i'm one of them

01:12:54.180 and that these uh prosecutors uh continue to be told what to do by the people who fund them now

01:13:03.220 i learned something the other day about my local area not my specific town but there's a town nearby

01:13:11.220 where apparently the soros slash act blue money is going to put a bad character in the mayor's job

01:13:20.820 and here's what i just realized soros is doing certainly he gets a fast bang for the buck by controlling the

01:13:30.980 um the justice system and that's a pretty big lever but there's a bigger lever coming which is if you can

01:13:40.180 buy uh a victory in the mayor's office in every middle or large city or most of them those become the

01:13:51.300 people who eventually go from mayor to let's say a state senator to let's say a representative to let's

01:13:58.260 say a senator to let's say a president so in other words soros and act blue are creating a pool of

01:14:08.420 experienced people who will be the leaders of tomorrow but they're starting them at the lower

01:14:14.340 level where it's cheap so so you can get ownership of them at the mayor level and then you continue

01:14:21.220 you you know continue funding them if they go to higher office you make sure that the best ones do

01:14:27.300 that so the level of control that soros is putting on the country is way bigger than you imagine and

01:14:38.180 it's destroying a town local to me now i don't want to give you details because i'll get in trouble but

01:14:45.380 i've heard some really really bad things about the local politics and about act blue and soros's influence

01:14:52.580 and don't ignore that because that might be the long-range biggest play

01:14:59.460 according to the hill there was a poll that showed that even republicans like the biden suggested

01:15:07.460 supreme court reforms does that surprise you that even republicans like all three of the

01:15:16.260 these supported reforms now there's a there's a punchline to this so wait to the end

01:15:22.180 but the reforms are these um a constant let's see they want a uh

01:15:28.580 they want a term limits 51 of even republicans like that now in each case the democrats like it more

01:15:38.500 but even 51 of republicans said yeah term limits for the supreme court i could go for that uh the binding

01:15:46.740 code of conduct on the supreme court members 70 of republicans said yeah go to conduct totally

01:15:56.740 reasonable why not and then on the uh the uh let's say um saying that nobody's above the law i guess not

01:16:08.580 the president and not the supreme court 54 of republicans said yeah nobody's above the law makes sense

01:16:17.220 now here's what you don't know about how the poll was conducted

01:16:20.580 they didn't tell the people they asked whose ideas these were so in other words the republicans were

01:16:30.500 not presented with this joe biden would like to do this do you agree instead they said what do you

01:16:38.260 think of the idea of term limits and apparently they i don't know if they vetted them but they they

01:16:44.900 may have found people who just weren't up with the news if you just came up to anybody and said what

01:16:50.100 do you think about term limits on supreme court if they didn't know where it came from i could see

01:16:56.740 why the majority would say yeah you know on paper that sounds pretty good but this is a another example

01:17:03.460 of the phenomenon which has been tested many times if you took um trump's policies and simply said that

01:17:12.340 they were kamala harris's policies and stopped a democrat on the street and said um kamala harris

01:17:19.060 would like to tighten the border and uh do this or that even the democrat would say kamala harris wants

01:17:26.340 to do it i'm all on board and then if you if you go you can basically do this over and over people will

01:17:35.220 agree if they think their team says it's a good idea and if you don't tell them which team has the idea

01:17:41.140 then you get something a little closer to an actual opinion but if they know who's for it it means nothing

01:17:53.220 all right um

01:17:58.100 so we also know that uh tiktokers apparently are being reportedly i suppose this could be fake news but

01:18:07.860 there are reports from influencers that the kamala harris campaign has contacted them and offered

01:18:14.580 them cash to say things supportive of kamala harris is that legal i think it is right it's legal to just say

01:18:24.900 i'll pay you to say good things about our candidate or is it i think it's legal i mean

01:18:32.740 kind of sketchy but i think it's legal but uh the idea is that you should not trust any celebrity

01:18:40.180 endorsements whatsoever a tick tocker said that she was contacted i guess she decided not to do it

01:18:48.420 but wanted you to know that these influencers are paid i saw a headline that said that there was a study

01:18:56.340 that tick tock is not as negative toward china as other platforms

01:19:05.060 is anybody surprised that tick tock which is owned by china but they don't touch the algorithm trust us

01:19:12.420 trust us we're not going to put our finger on the algorithm it's just whatever the people want and

01:19:17.940 and then then then a test shows that tick tock is way friendlier to china than the other platforms

01:19:27.700 just a coincidence i doubt it it's probably exactly what it looks like

01:19:34.260 there's a study in science psychology post or something that they did a twin study to see what

01:19:41.300 would cause shifts in political ideology and here's what they found that apparently your genetics

01:19:48.740 do have an influence over your initial political beliefs now you've seen plenty of studies about

01:19:55.780 this before that there does seem to be an actual genetic difference between liberals and conservatives

01:20:04.420 that people are just genetically conservative and genetically might have discussed about some

01:20:10.420 things that somebody else thinks is just a good time and that those are you're just born with it now

01:20:17.780 that feels right to me i believe that there is a strong propensity to you know favor one side

01:20:27.380 based on your genes but if you were to change your mind apparently the changing your mind

01:20:33.140 is influenced by your environment so if your friends change the mind and you watch different news and

01:20:39.060 maybe you move to a different town you're far more likely to change your mind on politics now all that

01:20:44.820 to me all that is is proof that brainwashing works

01:20:49.300 right if we know with twins that you can keep one twin the same and the other twin can be changed

01:20:57.140 because you change their environment basically that shows you that brainwashing works

01:21:02.100 because it's not about thinking that what this what this study did not show is that if you do a deep

01:21:09.460 dive and you do your own research you will find information that might change your mind nope it just said if

01:21:15.220 you take this one twin and put them in a different environment they end up changing their politics

01:21:20.660 even though their genes are the same as the one who stayed the same so brainwashing works

01:21:26.900 there was no appeal to the one better educated who had more facts change their mind nothing like that

01:21:32.980 they just had to be in an environment where other people had different opinions and they changed their

01:21:36.500 mind it's as simple as that

01:21:40.420 we are not a rational people all right youtube is testing some kind of community notes thing uh

01:21:46.660 similar to way x does it now i haven't seen it yet but um that's good news right because on x the community

01:21:55.140 notes there's a good check on somebody's uh lying or inaccuracy because uh when somebody tells a whopper

01:22:03.060 there's a pretty good chance there'll be a community note saying this is not true so if youtube were to

01:22:07.860 do the same thing that would be great wouldn't it well i'm on youtube right now so let me say this youtube is

01:22:20.340 the most wonderful company i've never known a company so wonderful as youtube they are fair and

01:22:29.220 professional and the last thing they would ever do is put their thumb on the community notes such that

01:22:36.500 is simply supported the narrative you could count on the fact that the community notes will be debunking

01:22:45.220 every reference to the fine people hoax right wait no

01:22:55.700 well i would say that youtube doing community note to fact checking is one of the most dangerous things

01:23:04.980 i've ever seen in my life could it work out positively absolutely it could if they really did take their

01:23:13.140 thumb off of the process and let let it just run out and if it's organized the way community notes are on x

01:23:20.500 where you have to get some kind of agreement or the note doesn't come you might actually have something

01:23:26.020 there however this depends entirely on youtube having an interest in the the information being accurate

01:23:37.460 versus an interest in supporting the narrative which do you think is closer to the truth that youtube's

01:23:45.380 interest is to get the most accurate information out there and get rid of the worst or to support the narrative

01:23:54.580 well i would give you this perspective if you're a big company that depends on the government's

01:23:59.940 being on the good side with the government you kind of have to do the narrative i don't think it's

01:24:07.540 optional for big companies when it was the last time a big company especially a publicly traded company

01:24:13.860 when was the last time they told you the government's narrative was wrong and you should ignore it

01:24:20.180 i don't know does it ever happen so we do have some questions about whether this would

01:24:25.220 uh remove bias or create bias but i'm going to compliment youtube for testing it you won't know

01:24:33.540 until they do it so very much like uh i have highest marks for elon musk trying a new way to get

01:24:42.180 information to people through the conversation with trump i'm going to say that whether or not this works

01:24:49.940 the community notes on youtube it is absolutely the right thing to test well we'll have a good idea

01:24:56.180 if it's working after a year or so so good on you youtube let's see what we can do fox news has reported

01:25:03.460 about a chicago teachers union uh representative uh claiming that uh standardized tests are uh racist

01:25:13.700 and uh come from junk science and white supremacy and eugenics and that's why the black kids are not

01:25:20.980 doing so well in school because tests are racist and made by white supremacists to

01:25:28.820 keep the black people down i guess now that uh

01:25:35.780 huh um that uh didn't go well with all of the callers there was a black mother who called in and said

01:25:43.700 um i did well on all the standardized tests and i'm pretty sure i want to raise a child who can do

01:25:50.820 well on all the standardized tests why are you telling me that black people can't do well on

01:25:56.180 standardized tests that sounds super racist i'm adding that last part the super racist part

01:26:03.700 but i do like the fact that there was a black mom who just added some black mom common sense

01:26:11.060 to the teachers union which is the most dangerous part of america right now the the teachers unions have

01:26:17.940 destroyed i think they've destroyed the country really because everything that is a problem right

01:26:25.380 now is the way people think and all that came from the school system so 20 years of the the teachers

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01:27:50.900 on american technology because america has decided that china can't have the good chips so i think

01:27:56.900 nvidia is prevented from selling their best chips to china so china is like hell with you we'll make our

01:28:04.980 own chips um i don't think china's got chips that are quite up to nvidia's standard but who knows if they

01:28:12.900 can catch up or how long it would take but here's the interesting part so china is desperately trying to

01:28:21.140 decouple from requiring any american anything they don't want american chips they don't want american

01:28:27.940 technology they want to be able to have their own control because otherwise we'd have some ability to

01:28:33.220 suppress them by suppressing our goods but at the same time america is trying to divest from the chinese

01:28:41.300 economy by bringing manufacturing home or moving in somewhere that's not china so we're in the having the

01:28:49.620 weirdest war we're right in the middle of a like a hard war with china but without the bullet part

01:28:58.260 so the war is this if the united states can keep china addicted to our products let's say technology

01:29:06.980 but we can become unaddicted to their manufacturing and other products that we need because we get them

01:29:12.900 somewhere else then we would have power over china because we would say well you know if you don't do

01:29:19.540 this trade agreement or you don't get your ships out of the south china sea we won't sell you any

01:29:26.020 technology and good luck trying to keep the lights on meanwhile china would like to do the same thing to us

01:29:33.140 to not depend on us for any technology but make sure that we're very dependent on them for

01:29:38.740 pharmaceuticals and you know basic materials that we need to build everything so we're it's a weird war

01:29:46.420 where we're acting like friends where we're seeing who could reduce their dependence on the other

01:29:52.500 enough that you can get some kind of financial leverage on the other

01:29:58.980 does it seem to you like uh humans just like to be in wars it's like we can't help ourselves this is

01:30:07.460 why i think trump has the opportunity to be to do the biggest reframe in modern american history

01:30:14.900 and the reframe would look like this hey russia hey china you know that in the long run the big war

01:30:22.180 is going to be with islam and that we need to be on the same team because islam is going to not want

01:30:31.140 to be you know they're not going to change to chinese culture they're going to try to change you

01:30:37.460 so this would be the time to make sure that russia china and the united states are doing as well as

01:30:43.620 possible for as long as possible so that they have some ability to coordinate and protect from what will

01:30:50.500 be a very large challenge in the future which is just the population growth and

01:30:55.940 uh whatever aggressiveness there comes from the middle east so that's the way i'd play it

01:31:03.300 um and i think trump is good at that he's good at explaining that what team you should be on

01:31:10.900 and they should be on our team uh the smart people are saying there's going to be an interest rate cuts

01:31:17.140 because i guess uh the inflation went down a little bit and if inflation goes down then the fed can say

01:31:25.140 um hey we did our job and then they they can lower their interest rates if interest rates go down i

01:31:32.340 would expect the stock market to go up and uh as i've been telling people for a year you should expect

01:31:38.660 the stock market to be artificially raised right around the election uh and you know maybe it's a coincidence

01:31:47.780 maybe it's not but the people who would prefer biden to get reelected seem like they might be in the

01:31:56.340 mood to shade some numbers maybe go a little early on interest rate cuts goose that economy a little bit

01:32:04.820 make make the uh harris team look a little stronger so we'll see anyway um there's a new

01:32:15.220 i there should be a category called stupid news

01:32:23.300 so stupid news would be news that you didn't really even need to hear

01:32:27.540 to know the news like like russia uh teaching its navy to target uh europe i was like i didn't really

01:32:36.900 need to hear that because that's just basic obvious common sense well here's another one uh there's uh

01:32:45.300 more pressure to try to come up with a ceasefire in gaza all right so that's the story that there's

01:32:52.740 new movement to make a ceasefire in gaza so you say to yourself oh that's new like maybe finally

01:32:59.540 they'll get there all right here's something else that's in the story that the head of hamas uh sinwar

01:33:07.220 is his name um he said that if israel is serious about negotiation uh that first they have to stop

01:33:13.460 their military operation in gaza

01:33:15.220 well that's not gonna happen so what kind of negotiation is that how about you stop doing

01:33:24.660 everything you're doing and uh that'll be just the first step but what will you do well we won't do

01:33:32.020 anything just you stop fighting us okay but usually usually there's something that you do too no no you

01:33:42.820 just have to stop your military operation that's not gonna happen so obviously hamas has no real

01:33:51.140 interest in you know stopping things and israel would probably say how about you return the hostages

01:33:58.340 and then we'll talk about slowing down the military thing how about all your leaders surrender

01:34:05.220 and you give us back all the hostages and then we'll have a conversation after that but it looks

01:34:10.580 like both sides have a requirement to begin the conversation that is the hardest thing that could

01:34:17.220 ever happen and really impossible so neither side wants peace now the people do just to be clear the the

01:34:27.380 the people who are suffering in gaza very much want a ceasefire but hamas if they wanted one they could

01:34:33.780 get one easily and if israel wanted one they would just stop fighting so if you have both sides that

01:34:41.860 prefer the fighting over the peace the leadership not the people the people might want peace but the

01:34:47.060 leadership they both want to fight so of course it's not going to stop i think hamas thinks that every

01:34:55.060 every person that israel kills in gaza gets them closer to their goal of you know disgracing israel

01:35:03.060 and having some extra power over them in the future and israel of course has to take out the garbage and

01:35:09.220 get rid of the terrorists because you can't live next to terrorists so both sides are locked into a

01:35:14.180 situation where they can't do anything different because they think they're winning in their own weird

01:35:20.420 ways so yeah nothing's gonna change there's a little update on that story about the uh the the son of

01:35:29.220 one cartel leader in mexico running some kind of a trick to bring the other cartel head uh into american

01:35:37.620 custody and america picked them up both but maybe the one guy worked a deal so maybe he'll be let

01:35:44.660 down at some point we don't know but what here's what we've heard now the the younger man

01:35:50.420 uh took hostage the the head uh cartel leader from the other cartel and he didn't just you know

01:36:00.820 trick him into flying into the wrong airport they actually uh they tied him to his chair so he was

01:36:07.540 actually you know abducted and tied up and then flown to america uh now america says that they had

01:36:14.660 nothing to do with it they didn't have the plane you know just wasn't any of their assets involved

01:36:20.420 it was just completely a mexican thing do you believe that no i don't you know if any part of

01:36:28.980 our spooks were involved in this they're supposed to say they weren't so the fact that they say they

01:36:35.860 weren't doesn't really mean anything but i would say that whatever is happening here uh the real story is

01:36:44.580 nowhere near the surface story i don't know what the real story is but everything about that story

01:36:52.740 stinks everything about it so i don't know if it's an american plot to get the two cartels to fight

01:36:59.300 each other i don't know but i don't trust any part of the story all right ladies and gentlemen i've gone

01:37:07.780 on too far i'm gonna i'm gonna say goodbye to uh youtube and um x and rumble and i'm gonna talk to my

01:37:18.260 beloved local subscribers privately in a moment the rest of you i will see you tomorrow thanks for

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