Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2633 CWSA 10⧸19⧸24

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00:00:51.060 so there's a study of studies that says that strawberries are not only good for your heart

00:01:03.240 but they're good for your brain it'll reduce your dimension it'll make your heart tick forever

00:01:09.840 hey i wonder who would do a big expensive story on strawberries hmm hmm trust the science

00:01:20.940 huh maybe i should check to see who funded it let's see uh checking checking funding uh this work was

00:01:28.260 supported by the california strawberry commission yeah strawberry california so a big strawberry

00:01:36.260 uh do you do you believe a study by the people who are involved in the industry that their industry

00:01:44.480 is awesome and it makes you smarter and live forever well you shouldn't

00:01:51.320 i don't think you can believe big strawberry when it comes to a study about strawberries i've got a

00:02:00.640 feeling they might be biased they might be now i'm not saying there's anything wrong with

00:02:05.920 strawberries i eat them every single day but i love them actually here's another tip don't put your

00:02:12.580 strawberries in the refrigerator they will be instantly ruined and that's what you need to know

00:02:19.740 about strawberries did you know that ozempic in addition to making you lose weight has uh promising

00:02:26.540 results for treating alcohol and drug abuse turns out that if you study the people who are on ozempic

00:02:33.360 they have also cut way down on alcohol and drugs now do you trust that study

00:02:40.500 hmm what do the people who have that go to the doctor and get ozempic what do they have in common

00:02:49.300 with each other do they have anything in common with each other well let me put the hypnotist filter on

00:02:57.540 when people would ask me as a trained hypnotist scott can you use hypnosis to help me quit smoking

00:03:05.920 i would say yes it works exactly as well as every other method you would try and if they come to me

00:03:15.540 and say scott can hypnosis help me lose weight i would say yes it works exactly as well as every other

00:03:24.040 method you could try do you know why here's why hypnotists know that once you've decided you're

00:03:32.060 going to do something you're going to make it work so if you decided first and then you used hypnosis

00:03:38.640 it would work if you decided first and then decided you're going to use i know patches or take a class

00:03:44.500 or something it would work it's the deciding that's the active part now if you took a whole bunch of

00:03:51.300 people who had decided because it's not cheap right it's there's there's some uh you know some

00:03:57.440 risk involved some expense involved some time involved if you did all that to cut down on food

00:04:04.500 because you wanted to become healthier don't you think probably that would be the same group that

00:04:11.460 would say you know what if i'm trying to lose weight why would i keep drinking yeah if i'm trying to

00:04:17.240 lose weight why would i smoke some weed and get the munchies so i think that this is definitely worth

00:04:24.300 studying however i would be open to the possibility that the only thing that's happening is that the

00:04:31.360 people would really made up their minds to change their lives made up their mind to change their lives

00:04:37.020 and you get benefits in all the areas i would go further and say it wouldn't surprise me if people

00:04:43.460 doing ozempic maybe exercised a little more because again it would be the people who had decided

00:04:50.100 the way i used to be is not the way i'm willing to be anymore so probably that affected more than just

00:04:56.920 one decision that's my guess could go the other way could be the ozempic users are the ones who don't

00:05:05.240 exercise because they're thinking well i don't need to exercise everything's going great losing weight

00:05:10.560 like crazy so it could go either way but i would guess that once you decide to fix your life

00:05:16.640 that all the things that need to be done right start falling into line it's the deciding that's the

00:05:22.960 hard part all right apparently a thousand protesters went to protest the kellogg company they say that the

00:05:33.200 additives and the food is poisoning our children have you heard so many people use the word poison

00:05:40.400 poison to describe our food supply before the last say year or so i feel like that wasn't as common

00:05:48.580 there were a lot of people saying oh the food supply isn't safe or they used other words

00:05:53.680 but the word poison i feel like that's a new entry are you feeling the same thing you know we've done

00:06:03.180 we've done sugar is poison that was a book i often say alcohol is poison that's taken on kind of a viral

00:06:11.420 quality but this word poison is really powerful if you say oh this isn't as good for you as this thing

00:06:22.140 it's not very active but when you say something is poison and then you add children you've really got a

00:06:29.340 strong message this is poison you're giving it to our children now i don't know the science behind

00:06:35.020 the kellogg situation so i don't have a specific claim on my own but i'll tell you the persuasion

00:06:41.740 is strong if you say you're poisoning children you're gonna have to answer that claim one way or the other

00:06:48.700 let's see the biden administration is uh going to reduce the uh environmental review process for

00:07:00.300 geothermal so geothermal is where you drill a really deep hole in the ground where there's tons of heat

00:07:07.580 and you release that heat and use it to turn a turbine i guess and it generates electricity

00:07:14.060 um but in order to dig one of these really deep holes and build one of these plants you got to do

00:07:20.300 these environmental reviews which apparently were burdensome and there they are being uh altered to

00:07:26.700 make it easier and there's one of these plants is going in right now in uh utah somewhere anyway

00:07:35.900 this is recorded this is all reported in the hill but here's what i have to say you know as much as we

00:07:42.860 complain about our government and we like one side versus the other it does seem to me that the

00:07:49.500 department of energy has been doing consistently the right things through two administrations

00:07:59.340 and you know maybe if i were closer to it i'd say no they should have gone faster or they should do way

00:08:06.380 more than they're doing but every time i hear a story that's related to the department of energy

00:08:12.780 it's at least directionally correct so here they are doing something that makes it easier to do

00:08:18.460 geothermal of course i love that it's the least polluting thing you could even think of

00:08:25.260 and they're doing a lot for um for the approvals of especially small nuclear power plants in the

00:08:31.100 united states which is exactly what i want them to do so i'm sure if i looked into it i could find

00:08:38.940 lots of things to complain about because big bureaucratic groups always have something wrong but i gotta

00:08:44.780 say across two administrations with two different leaderships they seem to be pushing the country in

00:08:51.660 the right decision the right direction and the the beauty of that is that if you get energy right

00:09:00.220 a whole lot of other things work out on their own like the economy you know if we lowered energy

00:09:06.380 prices and made the environment clean and suddenly everything everything starts fixing itself

00:09:12.540 and i've always i've been saying for maybe 20 years that the most important technology in the world

00:09:21.500 would be holes just holes if you could figure out and make a hole in the ground really cheaply then

00:09:29.820 you could do all the geothermal you wanted and you'd have basically unlimited energy but the trouble is

00:09:37.980 digging the hole so if you can figure out holes you pretty much solve most of the big problems in energy

00:09:48.380 there is a study by min jay kim in the conversation found out that uh that people's voters moral

00:09:59.020 flexibility as he called it helps them defend politicians misinformation so what it means is if you

00:10:05.100 like your politician and you generally like the side that your politician is on and they come up with some bs

00:10:12.620 and you say to yourself that's the politician i like but even i can tell that's a lie that you will

00:10:21.260 rationalize their lie and disinformation as being not so bad because at least it's what you want so if you

00:10:30.220 want what that politician is offering the study shows that you're going to be willing to flexibly

00:10:36.700 accept that they're using some hyperbole maybe their facts don't exactly match up but you're still happy

00:10:43.820 about where they're going so you're okay with it what does that sound like do you think they needed to do that

00:10:50.540 study or or do you think they could have just asked me the developer of the statement that trump is even

00:11:01.100 when his hyperbole is off base he is directionally correct that's all this is it's saying that if you

00:11:09.420 like where your politician is heading you don't mind if they do a little hyperbole a little exaggeration

00:11:15.580 maybe get some facts wrong it doesn't really matter right so i use this argument all the time

00:11:22.860 with trump which is if you want the border closed and trump's telling some stories and maybe some of

00:11:29.980 them are not exactly true if it gets the border closed i'm pretty happy about it right am i gonna

00:11:37.180 am i gonna mind that he got some anecdotal story wrong and maybe it wasn't because of illegal

00:11:44.460 migrants that somebody died i don't really care as long as you get some border closed and if if

00:11:51.180 telling stories that get people worked up gets it done yes i am morally flexible so yeah you didn't

00:11:59.660 need to do this study you could have asked me i'm totally morally flexible about saving lives and keeping

00:12:07.100 people safe if it takes a little fibbing i'm okay with that i mean i would prefer their word on but if

00:12:15.180 you have to choose between two fibers i'll take the fiber that's directionally accurate

00:12:24.220 anyway um there's a u.s startup that can charge you a lot of money up to fifty thousand dollars

00:12:32.060 to screen your embryo for iq so if i guess this is only applicable to people who are doing the

00:12:40.380 in vitro fertilization so you've got a number of eggs and you can check which ones you think you like

00:12:47.260 the best so what do you think of that fifty thousand of course we'll limit it to a very

00:12:53.740 um select group of people but if you could do it cheaply if you could do it cheaply would you pick

00:13:02.060 the high iq baby dev for your own baby if you don't i would have many questions for you because the the

00:13:13.580 correlation between iq and success is so clear so clear that if you if you had the option of doing it and

00:13:22.700 you didn't do it i'd have to wonder about you i mean mental health is just one part of health

00:13:29.980 if you could screen and you found out that one was going to be um that well i won't mention any

00:13:36.780 specific physical problem because then there'll be somebody who will say hey you're talking about me

00:13:42.860 but you can imagine that that we all know there's a certain set of physical traits that'll make your

00:13:49.740 life easier a little bit taller is a little bit easier than a little bit shorter a little bit

00:13:57.900 smarter is definitely easier than not smart so if you could if you could uh control for these things

00:14:06.620 yeah you'd do it why wouldn't you in a sense people are already doing it because when they're looking at

00:14:13.420 donors sperm donors you know that guy who's the uh the ceo and founder of uh is it signal i think it's

00:14:23.260 the signal app and and he's unusually good looking so he's tall unusually good looking and brilliant

00:14:30.300 and apparently he's been chosen as a sperm donor like a thousand times

00:14:35.740 you just have to take one look at him and then look at what he does for a living and you'd be like

00:14:41.020 okay all right we'll we'll take that one that's pretty good so yeah of course people are going to

00:14:46.140 choose iq if they can so it's legal to do this in the united states but it is illegal in great britain

00:14:52.940 you can't select for iq okay let's uh let's run the tape forward okay we'll start uh we'll start in 2024

00:15:02.300 we've got two countries we've got the great britain and we got uh united states united states we have the

00:15:09.340 technology and the legal ability to choose iq in our children in the great britain let's say they

00:15:16.300 keep it the same and we fast forward it a couple hundred years and they do not have the legal right 0.95

00:15:22.940 to choose smarter children how do things look in 200 years

00:15:27.100 unfortunately if one of the countries has unrestricted immigration and no iq uh no ability

00:15:39.420 to choose iq of your own babies you're gonna have a dumber country because it's not the geniuses moving

00:15:46.300 in because the geniuses probably have lots of options and they're fine where they are it's the

00:15:53.660 people who are struggling so if you let in people who are struggling you're gonna get a lot of great

00:15:58.700 workers great people there's nothing wrong with anybody at any level of the iq it's not a judgment

00:16:04.140 call it's just a statement that it's correlated with success and great britain would be toast

00:16:12.220 compared to a country that had been uh measure that had been you know managing to iq they'd be toast

00:16:21.900 unless they had a better school system and then they'd be this anyway anyway

00:16:28.300 uh according to the daily caller jennifer newell newelly is writing about uh there's a big university

00:16:36.940 university of michigan that uh in the years since they've been working on dei they spent 250 million

00:16:44.860 on diversity equity inclusion it's good that's good so they spent a lot of money on diversity equity

00:16:53.020 inclusion so can you imagine the benefits they've gotten from that wow it feels so unfair because

00:17:00.860 imagine the colleges that didn't spend any money on it imagine going to one of those hell holes but

00:17:07.020 if you want to go to a place that's really got it worked out some place that's futuristic you know

00:17:12.620 they they're taking care of all the people not just some but all the people spent 250 million

00:17:19.180 dollars on dei let's see how they're doing uh according to this article uh students were were less

00:17:26.700 likely to interact with those of a different race religion or political okay so it made people uh stay

00:17:32.220 away from each other huh how could they have how could they have saved 250 million dollars

00:17:43.100 if the end result was that people were emphasizing the differences and then they that caused them to

00:17:50.780 stay away from each other how what would be a way to save money well they could have just told them

00:17:58.380 why don't you stay away from each other

00:18:04.860 i'm not suggesting you should but if all they got for 250 million dollars was people staying away from

00:18:11.900 each other there was probably a cheaper way to get to that point hey hey everybody

00:18:18.220 yeah you you all think the other is an asshole why don't you just stay away from each other 0.83

00:18:24.060 huh well now that could work

00:18:29.020 there's nothing about dei that's good it's like no matter what they try to do it comes out bad

00:18:35.100 now this by the way would be no surprise to anybody who studied persuasion if i wanted you to think

00:18:43.420 obsessively about the worst thing that you could be thinking about i would make it the focus of my

00:18:49.100 spending so if i wanted you to spend a lot of time thinking about your racial differences

00:18:55.340 i would make a dei group i could predict that if i made a big expense and a big program around

00:19:02.460 anything that you would be thinking about it more that would be the whole point to make you think about

00:19:08.140 it more so if you spend more time thinking about how you're a victim and how your classmate is your

00:19:13.420 oppressor how do you think that was going to go in the long run what you know if you were to if you

00:19:20.940 were just sort of you know game that out on paper and you're like the designer of the system it's like

00:19:26.300 all right we're going to design a system we're going to say let's say half of the people we're going to

00:19:31.580 say that they're the oppressors and the other half will be the victims the victims and we'll make sure 0.98

00:19:37.820 that everybody knows that this half is oppressors even if they had nothing to do with anything it 0.77

00:19:43.260 was their ancestors and this group is the victims even if they're doing fine but maybe their ancestors

00:19:49.340 weren't uh how do you think that would go in the long run there's only one way that goes those people

00:19:56.700 end up not wanting to spend time with each other what what other way could that end up

00:20:01.740 even on paper that doesn't work

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00:20:20.140 think all right here's the best news for me personally in a long time every now and then there'll be a thing

00:20:28.460 that sneaks up on you because you know bad news sort of hits you in the face like ah bad news good news

00:20:34.940 sometimes is a gradual process where something's improving over time and then one day you just

00:20:41.100 notice hey wow that didn't used to be the case that's like way better now here's my example uh many of you

00:20:49.820 saw and i mentioned it a few times there was a a terrible rumor about tim walls um i told you on

00:20:59.100 live stream that i wasn't even going to tell you what the rumor was because the credibility of it was

00:21:04.460 low it was based on one eyewitness and one account we didn't know about and it was a little too on the

00:21:10.860 nose and it was at that time when rumors happen and you know so i so i warned you to

00:21:19.820 to be careful about that one and uh i was cautious enough that i didn't even tell you what the rumor

00:21:27.260 was and now i'm glad because the person spreading the rumor just disappeared so the account that had the

00:21:34.060 rumors gone i don't know if they got canceled or what but there's no there was no further confirming

00:21:41.180 evidence so nobody nobody found any anything that would support it now here's the bigger point

00:21:50.380 it seems to me that the political right the republican conservative types have now developed an immune system

00:21:59.980 that didn't that wasn't there before and the immune system is for hoaxes and what i mean by that is

00:22:09.340 that what happened when this particular story hit the news is that a whole bunch of people immediately

00:22:15.980 sent it to me and they said is this real but i wasn't the only one i think i think a number of other

00:22:25.420 people on the internet who you thought were credible that maybe could help you determine if something's

00:22:31.420 a hoax i'll bet they also got it so i don't know for sure but i'd be surprised if nobody sent it to

00:22:39.740 you know say mike servich or bongino or some people you know just to say does this look real to you

00:22:46.300 now i could tell you that um uh i know joshua steinman said this could be one of those bull run

00:22:54.060 or buffalo run plays a buffalo run is where you create a fake story and you see if you can get

00:23:02.460 one side to embrace it and then if they do you can say they're all idiots and stupid and they believe in 0.51

00:23:07.980 fake news so you can discredit people who had been doing well until that point so you could take out a

00:23:14.860 let's say uh alex jones you could take him out with a fake story or something like that i think

00:23:21.740 that's what happened to sydney powell i don't have confirmation of that but i think that's what happened

00:23:26.460 to her with that kraken story and i recognized that as at the time i don't know if you remember

00:23:32.940 but i called that out as i feel like i feel like somebody's setting her up so that anything else

00:23:40.380 she says you're not going to believe and i think that's actually what happened i don't have

00:23:46.380 confirmation but anyway this latest story about waltz um probably was a buffalo run and it was

00:23:54.620 maybe somebody was just seeing how much attention they could get but it feels like maybe somebody on

00:24:00.220 the other team was trying to create a rumor that we could all get slapped down on and then we'd look

00:24:05.500 silly and then people would be discredited but uh i asked today i asked for people for a list of

00:24:13.340 people that they would go to if they were trying to figure out if something was a hoax and so i'm

00:24:19.260 just going to read you the names of people who other people say they would trust enough to say hey let

00:24:26.700 let me check with you first now nobody said check with cnn nobody said msnbc fox news

00:24:37.820 any of those that they were looking to individual uh i don't want to say high value but let's say high

00:24:45.900 credibility people right now to be fair because it was i asked the question in my own uh x feed most

00:24:54.940 people said me as the person they would go to to to figure out if something was true or a hoax now of

00:25:01.900 course i'm not a hundred percent because this is not a hundred percent game but i appreciate it if

00:25:07.580 those of you who have watched me over the years develop a set of tools that i often remind you of

00:25:14.380 have had a spot of hoax okay is it one story of one anonymous person who heard somebody say something

00:25:22.380 you know so i always give you the examples i tell you oh that's too on the nose i look at maybe the

00:25:28.220 source so you've those of you have been with me know that i have a toolbox that i use regularly to

00:25:35.420 spot fake news do i get everyone right i doubt it i doubt it but the toolbox is pretty good so even if

00:25:43.820 you say scott you're not very accurate the tools are the tools are pretty accurate if you just use them

00:25:50.940 you you'd have the same result so i'm going to read you the names of people that i thought

00:25:58.380 as well as the people who suggested them i thought that the these are the ones who are let's say the

00:26:05.500 the white blood cells of the political right these are the people who will surround and destroy 0.85

00:26:11.500 a a hoax so if you could if you knew that three or four people on this list i'm going to read

00:26:20.860 you thought that the truth was in one direction or the other i always certainly listen to them

00:26:26.220 all right now i'm on the list but if you even if you take me off this is a group that i consider more

00:26:32.380 credible and more able to spot hoaxes than the average person you ready so um i don't know if

00:26:40.540 i'll write this down but i'll just mention them if you want to if you want to play it back later all

00:26:45.660 right uh joshua steinman mike cernovich uh there's me of course uh dan bongino mike bends mike bends

00:26:55.740 especially for the deep state stuff and bongino especially for anything that has to do with

00:27:02.060 secret service or the you know the way the the way the you know the the hard people work

00:27:10.300 i know he his expertise is pretty wide katherine harridge we now she's from the real news

00:27:18.700 but she has an unusually um good reputation for not falling for uh bs molly hemingway one of my

00:27:27.900 favorites julie kelly jack basavik glenn greenwald matt taibi michael schellenberger

00:27:37.420 megan kelly victor davis hansen tim pool and then here's some accounts that we don't know their names

00:27:46.460 but their accounts on x amuse cynical publia s it's all one word cynical publia maize

00:27:57.420 m-a-z-e that's not the handle but that's the name of the account um jonathan turley for anything

00:28:04.380 legal alan alan dershowitz for anything legal and uh vivek ramaswamy is just generally good at

00:28:13.020 spotting stuff now it's not a complete list i do have i mentioned matt tybee it's not a complete list

00:28:22.460 but it does operate as like a an immune system so this was not true in 2015.

00:28:31.660 in 2015 you couldn't tell me oh if there's a fake story in the news i've got a few people i'll check

00:28:37.980 with so i'll check their account and see what they're saying about it that wasn't true but today

00:28:45.420 you've got what was this 15 names you've got 15 people that you could check and if you saw the

00:28:52.060 three of them were debunking something i would take that pretty seriously if any three of these people

00:28:58.300 debunked the story it wouldn't matter which three if any three of them said i'd hold on in this one

00:29:04.700 hold on on that one so that's your your uh that's your advice for today and by the way i love the fact

00:29:13.660 that the political right derives its power from the group it seems that the political left is deriving

00:29:23.500 its power from the top some shadowy figures maybe obama and pelosi and god knows who soros

00:29:30.460 uh but you can see that the political right is is a bottom-up situation yeah you saw that uh when trump

00:29:39.660 visited the barbershop uh you probably saw that i was suggesting you know trump should go to a barbershop

00:29:47.500 i said it for a few weeks but i wasn't the only one so and i have no reason to believe that that's the

00:29:53.260 reason he went to the barbershop i think probably there were if i had to guess probably several uh

00:30:01.340 black advisors to trump who said you know you know it would be a good idea black barbershop 0.98

00:30:08.460 so when you watch trump you often see somebody who's continually scanning his own field and looking for

00:30:17.900 ideas and one of the things i also teach you is the person who's in charge in any situation is one with

00:30:25.020 the best idea because you can't resist the best idea so if you had the president you know future

00:30:31.900 president of the united states and also past president you know you say that's the most powerful person in

00:30:36.300 the room but if one of the persons in the room had the idea you know it'd look good go to a black 1.00

00:30:43.660 barbershop you'd kill it that's the best idea in the room so whoever said that's in charge because

00:30:50.860 that's what trump did now it's it's hard to wrap your head around that that the best idea is always

00:30:56.540 in charge but it is you'll see it a million times and i think it's unique it's uniquely well formed on

00:31:06.220 the right and i think that trump has a lot to do with that because it's so obvious that he is listening

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00:32:19.660 alarm according to the gateway pundit on some voting machines that have allegedly switched votes in georgia's

00:32:27.420 14th district what that means is somebody voted a certain way and then they printed out the ballot

00:32:33.420 and the printed ballot this should have matched what they just did on the screen is the opposite

00:32:38.860 that's right there are reported stories that this this cycle apparently people are voting and then

00:32:48.140 printing it out and it doesn't match what they voted now this is one machine

00:32:52.140 how can it happen on one machine do you think one of those machines had a bad piece of hardware

00:33:01.420 was it a hardware problem that made one machine vote opposite of what the actual vote was

00:33:09.100 doesn't sound like it does it if you've ever been around hardware and software if you had two machines

00:33:16.700 and one of them was changing the vote you probably would rule out hardware as the problem a hardware

00:33:25.020 problem is where just something doesn't work that's that's a software problem now if you knew that there was

00:33:33.580 one machine and let's say you could confirm it and by the way i have not confirmed this so remember i just

00:33:39.980 told you to uh watch out for hoaxes i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you on this one if you have one account

00:33:46.540 of one machine that's not good enough so i i need more i need more on this before i believe it

00:33:55.660 now all it would take is extra witnesses because it sounds like the report would be something that

00:34:01.500 that it sounds like they repeated it so that actually people stood there and said wait can you do that

00:34:07.340 again and they reproduce the problem so i think there are multiple witnesses now i would like to hear

00:34:15.180 literally from the multiple witnesses i don't want to hear a report that somebody talked to multiple

00:34:20.220 witnesses for something like this i want to see more than one person say i was standing there

00:34:26.220 i was in the room i watched it with my own eyes i watched it change if you give me that i believe it now

00:34:33.500 here's the problem suppose you do convince me that this happened on one machine once it's software

00:34:44.540 how in the world does one machine get software that changes votes just one

00:34:52.380 nobody in the world would believe it was on just one machine

00:34:55.340 now if you were going to put that sort of thing into a machine would you make it change every vote

00:35:05.660 or will you do it on maybe just some machines because you wouldn't need to do it everywhere

00:35:10.540 or would you do it at a random interval such that it would do it every time for every 13th vote

00:35:18.620 but all the rest would be normal how would you do it well i would i wouldn't do it for every vote

00:35:26.060 because that would be too obvious but uh if it happened on one machine i would cancel the election

00:35:36.460 let me say that again if it were confirmed that that one machine in one precinct this one time

00:35:44.060 reverse the vote i would cancel the whole election and i would say we can't use machines anymore

00:35:51.740 and then i would say give us six months change out every system do it on paper make the election one 0.87

00:35:59.660 day you better bring your id and then we'll have a real election but we're already at the point where

00:36:05.180 there isn't really any chance we can have a real election here people you know that right

00:36:09.340 i mean i don't want to be like a crazy you know the wolf is coming but we're well beyond the point

00:36:19.820 where we're going to believe the outcome of the election aren't we is most of the country so not

00:36:27.340 paying attention that they don't know what's going on we're well beyond trusting the outcome of the

00:36:32.700 election i already reject it unless it goes the way i want i'm going to be very clear about this

00:36:39.180 if trump gets elected which is what i want i'm going to accept the outcome

00:36:46.780 if he doesn't get elected and the polls are similar to kind of what they are now

00:36:52.700 and and there looks like there's some shenanigans and more reports like this which there will be

00:36:58.380 i'm not going to accept the outcome and nobody should nobody should accept an outcome that looks sketchy

00:37:05.500 when you have a system that's designed not to tell you who got elected so do not tell me in advance

00:37:13.340 that i need to accept the election do not ask me in advance will i accept the election

00:37:19.500 the answer is can you do an election that is credible the answer is no so i'm going to accept

00:37:26.140 it if i like it and that is the correct answer the correct answer is i will accept it if it looks

00:37:33.500 legitimate and it's the one i want to win if it doesn't look legitimate and it's not the one i

00:37:39.580 wanted to win i am absolutely not going to accept it which means we don't have a real election that

00:37:45.420 we're going into that whatever is going to happen is not an election i have no idea what the fuck 0.81

00:37:50.460 this is going to be but it looks like just a disaster to me so i would say the odds of massive

00:37:57.660 street protests are pretty high no matter which way it goes so that's coming but luckily there's only

00:38:07.420 this one story about this machine changing a vote thank goodness it's only happening in this one place

00:38:18.060 uh except that um there have been multiple complaints in texas about uh same thing

00:38:28.780 uh so apparently we got a problem here got a problem on a separate topic

00:38:42.460 megan kelly had a dr marty mccari on talking about the story of how we've came to believe in the past

00:38:48.860 that fat the natural kind of fat was bad for us turns out it was just uh uh there's some politician

00:38:58.380 scientist named ansel keys who after eisenhower had a heart attack he just said it must have been

00:39:04.460 all the fatty ate and then for years the entire food industry decided that fat was bad for you

00:39:11.420 because the guy said it once that's sort of the whole story there was a guy who said it once

00:39:19.180 and then all of the dietary the dietary model for the entire world changed because the guy said it once

00:39:28.380 none of it was true it turns out that you know fat's not so bad for you but what will kill you 0.53

00:39:35.420 is the things that people were eating instead of fat so they started eating you know more carbs and

00:39:41.100 processed foods and everything went to hell anyway um you've probably seen this by now but it remains funny

00:39:49.660 that uh so musk was doing his pennsylvania rallies he's doing several rallies to help trump in pennsylvania

00:39:58.780 and uh you talked about you saw mark cuban uh being interviewed by rachel maddow and he couldn't tell

00:40:05.580 them apart

00:40:09.100 now uh it is very politically incorrect because i'm sure it's insulting somebody but because you can't

00:40:19.980 figure out which one is being insulted it's diabolically clever as a as a as an insult

00:40:27.340 because my first thought is hey he's insulting um oh wait a minute is he insulting rachel maddow

00:40:36.860 or is he insulting mark cuban or wait a minute all he's saying is they look the same

00:40:43.020 but which one's being insulted are they both being insulted and here's the thing they're both good

00:40:52.300 looking people so so it gets it becomes extra confusing because in my opinion i mean you you

00:41:00.940 can disagree if you like but they're both good looking people period they're just both good

00:41:06.460 looking people you know most people would rather look like one of them than whatever they look like

00:41:12.300 you know if you if you count good hair and good skin and tall and you know stuff like that

00:41:18.380 so i don't know i just think it's it's hilarious when he says it i laugh every time uh and i just

00:41:26.540 love how complicated it is when you think about whether who's getting insulted and why but you know

00:41:33.020 i don't like to insult people's physical appearance too much i'm sure i i'm sure i break my own rule

00:41:39.260 sometimes but this one's funny just because they're both you know they're both brilliant successful rich

00:41:45.740 good-looking people so it doesn't hit like it would be if you're punching down

00:41:52.540 all right um some of you know that uh the young turks host uh jenk and i hope i pronounce his last name

00:42:01.020 right is it weger is it jenk weger is that close to the correct pronunciation for some reason i never

00:42:08.780 hear his last name pronounced out loud i see it written all the time and i see his first name sometimes

00:42:15.340 pronounced but i've never heard i've never heard a single person on tv or social media say his last

00:42:22.460 name and i keep waiting for it so i'll say it correct yuger oh i'm being corrected here it's yuger not weger

00:42:33.260 thank you okay so the correct pronunciation would be yuger so u y would be pronounced as if it were

00:42:41.180 backwards perfect i'm dyslexic so i'll get that right every time anyway he's a he said trump is crazy

00:42:49.660 and the fact that half of this country can't see it is one of the most amazing things in my lifetime

00:42:55.100 so here we go i challenge any conservative with a real audience to debate me either on our air or yours

00:43:01.420 on trump so i volunteered i sent him an email this morning i haven't heard back i just sent it before

00:43:07.580 the show now i don't know if i have a big enough platform he's looking for somebody who's got an

00:43:12.540 audience maybe mine isn't big enough but i love how he started it um and this is what i like about him

00:43:21.180 trump is so crazy and the fact that half this country can't see it is one of the most amazing

00:43:26.380 things in my lifetime so he is he is noticing this so here's what i like about him i disagree with jenk

00:43:35.340 a lot you know on politics but whenever i see him wrestling with it he seems to be using the right tools

00:43:45.980 in other words he's a smart guy who understands bias and he understands you know that we're kind of

00:43:53.180 hypnotized half the time and he seems to simply just be working with different information and i

00:43:59.740 feel like if he and i were exposed to exactly the same information if you know we might actually have

00:44:07.660 very similar opinions so that's what makes it fascinating um you know there's some people you say

00:44:13.820 okay no matter how much i talk to them they're not they're never going to change their mind because

00:44:17.740 they'd be too embarrassed to ever change their mind i don't think he is i i think jenk if he heard

00:44:24.380 a better argument live in the context of where he was even trying to win the argument i believe he's

00:44:30.780 actually bold enough that he could change his mind right in front of you and i could too i i could

00:44:38.780 actually do that as well i could completely modify my opinion if i heard something from him that i'd never

00:44:44.780 heard and it sounded real i could say huh that's actually a pretty good point now there aren't many

00:44:51.100 people who can do that because the embarrassment of changing your mind in public is pretty extreme

00:44:58.300 but if you watch him operate for a while he doesn't seem like he's he's operating under fear so he

00:45:05.100 doesn't seem to have a fear variable which means that you could deal with him on a like a logical

00:45:11.980 basis he would have all the logic and the knowledge but he wouldn't have the fear that would make him

00:45:18.540 locked into a point of view so that's what's different so otherwise i wouldn't have bothered

00:45:23.660 because you'd just be you know somebody be talking over you and the time would run out nothing would

00:45:28.620 happen but i actually think he's a real player he's not an npc um it doesn't mean it would go well

00:45:37.180 but as something that would be worth worth a shot i think his audience would be benefited from

00:45:44.460 hearing my point of view because it would be distinct from something they've heard before

00:45:49.020 and uh i think i would benefit from hearing his point of view because i'm not sure i fully understand it

00:45:57.500 so so i volunteered and i i would uh add this to my earlier statements

00:46:04.060 about the names you've learned as your your immune system against fake news that the fact that

00:46:15.500 cenk and i could even have this exchange is a positive thing because if you say to me i'm going

00:46:22.860 to take two elected politicians or two candidates for elected office and they're going to have a debate

00:46:28.300 the first thing i say is well that's worthless because they're both going to lie about a bunch

00:46:32.460 of stuff and then time will run out nobody fact checks them but if you took two uh people who are

00:46:40.380 not running for office who are who have some pattern in in their past of looking for what's true as

00:46:48.460 opposed to just trying to win then you really have something potentially you know if you have two

00:46:56.140 people who honestly just want to understand the thing that's something because that's not what

00:47:02.540 the politicians are doing the politicians are trying to win the election and everybody understands that

00:47:07.020 there's nothing wrong with that everybody gets that but it is possible that two people were not

00:47:12.140 running for election who both would really most like to just understand what's true and what's not true

00:47:20.060 that's different that's different and this might be one of those cases i don't know it's worth a shot

00:47:26.540 when i found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners i started wondering is every

00:47:32.940 fabulous item i see from winners like that woman over there with the designer jeans are those from 1.00

00:47:38.700 winners ooh are those beautiful gold earrings did she pay full price or that leather tote or that 1.00

00:47:44.460 cashmere sweater or those knee-high boots that dress that jacket those shoes is anyone paying full price

00:47:51.180 for anything stop wondering start winning winners find fabulous for less

00:47:57.980 well according to the daily caller trump is leading in all major swing state polling averages

00:48:03.420 um and then also um according to fox news poll trump is also ahead in the popular vote by two percent now you

00:48:14.060 know that there are other there are other polls that still say different so uh but i did see that most of

00:48:23.180 the polls are starting to tighten up and they're at least saying that trump is either statistically tied

00:48:29.020 when it used to be way behind so right on time just as you imagined the polls are tightening up

00:48:35.580 according to uh fox news is uh sarah rumpf witten uh polls are also finding that most americans say

00:48:47.180 they're worse off from four years ago now in the article i noted that uh well the article noted that um

00:48:55.660 um the last time it was so bad was under bill clinton uh the last time that people thought they were worse

00:49:03.980 off now bill clinton managed to beat a somewhat popular incumbent you know in bush senior it's very

00:49:12.700 unusual to beat an incumbent but part of the reason is because people thought they were worse off

00:49:19.580 and uh clinton was saying you know it's the economy stupid so he had a good message however there's

00:49:24.940 something missing from the story isn't there wasn't this the ross perot year if you took ross perot

00:49:33.100 out of the mix george bush would have won so so we don't really have that as an example that people

00:49:43.100 will change their vote radically because they were worse off you know or they're worse off than they were

00:49:49.580 so i'm not sure that's telling us as much as it could be telling us but it's not nothing if people

00:49:56.060 think they're worse off i would think that would motivate them to vote differently steve bannon is

00:50:01.980 running into a little trouble getting out of jail apparently he tried to use uh and this is sort of

00:50:07.740 is it ironic i don't know um he tried to use the uh process where if you do the right things and study

00:50:14.940 something you get an early release um because i guess he did what he was supposed to do to get

00:50:21.420 that early release but he's just being ignored so it looks like they're going to keep him in jail longer

00:50:27.500 than the process suggests because he did the part of the process that would make him eligible for the

00:50:34.540 early release there's no reason not to they're just not ruling on it so they're just letting his his

00:50:41.340 requests sit there for days and days and days so that's probably exactly what it looks like

00:50:50.860 um i like to talk about this question of whether trump is going to jail his enemies so i keep as

00:50:59.660 i'm watching the fake news develop what their new fake news message is going to be the new one is that

00:51:05.260 trump has said in a variety of different ways in different places that he would

00:51:11.340 try to jail his enemies i'm not hearing that like the only times i've heard it it was obviously not

00:51:21.020 anything to worry about but apparently they're like four different times he said something slightly in

00:51:26.620 that domain but here's my take there are a number of democrats that in my opinion have so cleanly and

00:51:34.860 obviously broke major laws that if you if you don't have them processed the country is going to wonder

00:51:41.900 why not now i'm very careful about i don't want a president trump to lawfare his enemies because he can

00:51:54.300 not cool not cool at all but i do believe that a number of his enemies have done things that

00:52:01.340 to me seem so obviously illegal that that should be looked into but if you look into it and you don't

00:52:08.300 find a crime then no no it you know i think uh uh shift was mentioned and i don't know if shift has

00:52:18.620 committed anything that's actually a crime but if you look at the hoaxes that he has run on the american

00:52:24.620 people you know the the the russia collusion hoax the laptop hoax the uh i was in the skiff and i saw

00:52:32.700 something that wasn't really their hoax and it's just one hoax after another now is anything that illegal

00:52:39.820 i don't know i mean i can't think of a specific law that would be broken by any of it

00:52:44.620 but if there is some law that he broke and it's consequential and it's not just some lawfare thing

00:52:53.740 that they looked until they found something yes yes i believe the legal system should do what it does

00:53:01.020 of course now here's what the the democrats don't understand when they complain about it i don't think

00:53:07.820 they understand the degree of lawlessness in their own side it's pretty extreme and so if trump decides

00:53:16.220 that there are a bunch of people who are enemies and also have grossly broken the law yeah he should

00:53:23.020 go after him like isn't that his job so the way you should talk about it is not that he's going to do

00:53:30.380 some terrible terrible unconstitutional thing the question should be shouldn't the attorney general

00:53:37.660 be prosecuting real crimes there's nobody i know who would be in favor of trump jailing somebody on a

00:53:45.740 made-up charge so let me say this as loudly and clearly as i can in case there are any democrats

00:53:51.660 listening i am so out if i see republicans trying to lawfare democrats just because they can that that is

00:54:03.180 absolutely hard no i mean i would register well i'm already registered as a democrat for safety

00:54:11.820 but i would start voting democrat if you do that i mean that's way over the line way over the line

00:54:19.500 absolutely no tolerance for that whatsoever but real crimes real crimes yeah if they're real crimes

00:54:27.020 that made a difference to the real public of course that's the job of the attorney general and

00:54:33.340 the president should be back in that now um i think i told you that uh there's going to be a lot more

00:54:43.580 january 6 conversations and i can't remember if i said this only on the pre-show i might have

00:54:49.500 but i'll say it again if you get in a conversation about january 6 and specifically trump's involvement

00:54:57.180 here's the way to handle it

00:55:01.900 the assumption that the democrats make is that trump knew he lost and that everybody else knew he lost

00:55:09.740 that's the only thing you should go after you should go after the fact that we do not have a system

00:55:15.260 which even now could make you feel comfortable with the result and that half of the country agrees

00:55:21.900 with the idea that the elections are not secure and i think we can say that there were some irregularities

00:55:30.060 in the output that did not look like they could have happened naturally now if you put that all together

00:55:38.140 along with trump's natural optimism that you know things should go his way the most reasonable assumption

00:55:45.260 is that he did believe he did believe the election was rigged and that everything he did was in the

00:55:51.660 service of correcting a mistake that the country would want corrected and that it was his job to correct

00:55:59.980 if you believe that he knew the election was fair and he lost fair and square well then he's an insurrectionist

00:56:08.620 and by the way i would be i would even think that myself i mean not insurrectionist technically because

00:56:16.780 you know the law was not broken in that regard but if it looked like he had convinced people for years

00:56:25.340 to protest and act differently based on something that was not true and he knew it well i'd have a real

00:56:32.940 problem with that but i believe it's clearly obvious that he believes still and did believe then that the

00:56:40.860 election was stolen and that he was trying to fix that so if you get into the conversation of who died

00:56:49.020 like did ashley babbitt was she the only one who died did the other ones die lately was there danger you

00:56:54.780 don't have to talk about any of that because you know what trump didn't do that trump didn't hit

00:57:00.860 anybody now you could say that he he caused people to be worked up but if the election had been stolen

00:57:09.100 right in front of us as it looked like to him and as it looked like to tens of millions of americans

00:57:15.500 that it looked like it had been stolen i don't mind the little violence now i don't recommend it

00:57:23.260 it and and i wish you wouldn't do it but we do live in a country where if somebody tried to steal

00:57:30.460 the election right in front of you and you were pretty sure it happened and it led to a little

00:57:35.180 bit of violence we're not worse off it's only the threat of violence that makes anything work

00:57:42.940 so i prefer no violence and if you don't like the election outcome this time don't do anything violent

00:57:48.700 so avoid all violence nothing good can come from it but it's just the truth that the threat of

00:57:56.380 violence the credible threat of violence is the only thing that keeps society together

00:58:00.860 the threat that somebody big will come take you out if you do something that bad

00:58:07.660 so the only thing that matters is did trump legitimately think the election was rigged

00:58:15.020 and i wouldn't go any further in the conversation because if he did then he was pushing the right

00:58:22.460 buttons maybe there was some violence we don't and that was even caused by that if he was right

00:58:29.660 the risk of a little violence was a an acceptable risk

00:58:34.700 if he was right the election was rigged the the risk not the guarantee of it but the risk of a little

00:58:42.540 bit of violence was worth the risk tragic that still makes it tragic it's not less tragic i'm

00:58:50.620 not taking the empathy anyway but we live in a country where every now and then you got to do

00:58:56.620 something that's hard and tough to put things back on track right we don't like to go to war but

00:59:03.900 sometimes we have to we don't like to shoot anybody who's mentally ill but they're coming after 1.00

00:59:10.140 a cop to kill them but sometimes you have to and i definitely don't want any violence around anything

00:59:15.980 like an election but if an election gets thrown right in front of you and has every signal of looking

00:59:23.420 thrown and people say it and the saying of it causes some action which leads to a little bit of violence

00:59:31.580 violence i'm not going to encourage the violence and i'm not going to compliment it i'm going to note

00:59:41.180 that it's a necessary variable to keep civilization in order

00:59:46.380 so talk about only whether it was true that it was rigged and whether or not he believed it was rigged

00:59:52.220 which is more to the point it matters what he believed and it matters what tens of millions of

00:59:57.740 americans believed and observed and at this point i i accepted the election result

01:00:06.300 because i thought the system as bad as it was created a result and i didn't see any way to fix it

01:00:13.260 so i never changed my mind from accepting the result but separately do i think that the election was rigged

01:00:20.700 yes yes and i don't need evidence for that what i need is to look at the system and see that it's

01:00:29.020 clearly designed in a way that nobody would design it if they didn't want it rigged

01:00:35.180 it's designed to be rigged the design is very clear so the odds of it being rigged i think are 100

01:00:43.100 percent now whether it was rigged enough i don't know was it rigged in both directions is it possible

01:00:50.700 there was rigging both ways could be that there's nothing that would prevent that so i don't know who

01:00:57.180 won but i don't think the election is something you could consider credible and i don't think the

01:01:02.860 coming one is credible in the least not even a little bit really that's my opinion

01:01:08.060 so i don't know what we're going to do about it um i'm confident that we'll work it out

01:01:15.420 because the the one thing i love about america i love a lot about it but one thing i love in particular

01:01:21.180 is we're really good at figuring stuff out like even hard stuff we will figure it out

01:01:29.580 um but i don't know how because it'll be a it'll be a more based on you know who has power to do what

01:01:37.100 it won't be based on what's logical or what's the best thing to do but we'll work it out one way or

01:01:42.060 the other we'll be okay all right that's all i have for this saturday i'm gonna say goodbye to youtube

01:01:50.300 and rumble and x i'm going to talk to the wonderful people on locals privately for a moment and uh

01:01:57.500 thanks for joining i'll see you tomorrow same time same place

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Real Coffee with Scott Adams - October 19, 2024

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