Episode 2633 CWSA 10⧸19⧸24
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In this episode of Coffee with Scott Adams, we talk about a recent study that says that eating a lot of strawberries can make you smarter and live forever. Is it true? Is this a good idea or not?
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good morning everybody and welcome to the highlight of human civilization it's called
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so there's a study of studies that says that strawberries are not only good for your heart
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but they're good for your brain it'll reduce your dimension it'll make your heart tick forever
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hey i wonder who would do a big expensive story on strawberries hmm hmm trust the science
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huh maybe i should check to see who funded it let's see uh checking checking funding uh this work was
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supported by the california strawberry commission yeah strawberry california so a big strawberry
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uh do you do you believe a study by the people who are involved in the industry that their industry
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is awesome and it makes you smarter and live forever well you shouldn't
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i don't think you can believe big strawberry when it comes to a study about strawberries i've got a
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feeling they might be biased they might be now i'm not saying there's anything wrong with
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strawberries i eat them every single day but i love them actually here's another tip don't put your
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strawberries in the refrigerator they will be instantly ruined and that's what you need to know
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about strawberries did you know that ozempic in addition to making you lose weight has uh promising
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results for treating alcohol and drug abuse turns out that if you study the people who are on ozempic
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they have also cut way down on alcohol and drugs now do you trust that study
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hmm what do the people who have that go to the doctor and get ozempic what do they have in common
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with each other do they have anything in common with each other well let me put the hypnotist filter on
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when people would ask me as a trained hypnotist scott can you use hypnosis to help me quit smoking
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i would say yes it works exactly as well as every other method you would try and if they come to me
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and say scott can hypnosis help me lose weight i would say yes it works exactly as well as every other
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method you could try do you know why here's why hypnotists know that once you've decided you're
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going to do something you're going to make it work so if you decided first and then you used hypnosis
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it would work if you decided first and then decided you're going to use i know patches or take a class
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or something it would work it's the deciding that's the active part now if you took a whole bunch of
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people who had decided because it's not cheap right it's there's there's some uh you know some
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risk involved some expense involved some time involved if you did all that to cut down on food
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because you wanted to become healthier don't you think probably that would be the same group that
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would say you know what if i'm trying to lose weight why would i keep drinking yeah if i'm trying to
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lose weight why would i smoke some weed and get the munchies so i think that this is definitely worth
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studying however i would be open to the possibility that the only thing that's happening is that the
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people would really made up their minds to change their lives made up their mind to change their lives
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and you get benefits in all the areas i would go further and say it wouldn't surprise me if people
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doing ozempic maybe exercised a little more because again it would be the people who had decided
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the way i used to be is not the way i'm willing to be anymore so probably that affected more than just
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one decision that's my guess could go the other way could be the ozempic users are the ones who don't
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exercise because they're thinking well i don't need to exercise everything's going great losing weight
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like crazy so it could go either way but i would guess that once you decide to fix your life
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that all the things that need to be done right start falling into line it's the deciding that's the
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hard part all right apparently a thousand protesters went to protest the kellogg company they say that the
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additives and the food is poisoning our children have you heard so many people use the word poison
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poison to describe our food supply before the last say year or so i feel like that wasn't as common
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there were a lot of people saying oh the food supply isn't safe or they used other words
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but the word poison i feel like that's a new entry are you feeling the same thing you know we've done
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we've done sugar is poison that was a book i often say alcohol is poison that's taken on kind of a viral
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quality but this word poison is really powerful if you say oh this isn't as good for you as this thing
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it's not very active but when you say something is poison and then you add children you've really got a
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strong message this is poison you're giving it to our children now i don't know the science behind
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the kellogg situation so i don't have a specific claim on my own but i'll tell you the persuasion
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is strong if you say you're poisoning children you're gonna have to answer that claim one way or the other
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let's see the biden administration is uh going to reduce the uh environmental review process for
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geothermal so geothermal is where you drill a really deep hole in the ground where there's tons of heat
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and you release that heat and use it to turn a turbine i guess and it generates electricity
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um but in order to dig one of these really deep holes and build one of these plants you got to do
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these environmental reviews which apparently were burdensome and there they are being uh altered to
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make it easier and there's one of these plants is going in right now in uh utah somewhere anyway
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this is recorded this is all reported in the hill but here's what i have to say you know as much as we
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complain about our government and we like one side versus the other it does seem to me that the
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department of energy has been doing consistently the right things through two administrations
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and you know maybe if i were closer to it i'd say no they should have gone faster or they should do way
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more than they're doing but every time i hear a story that's related to the department of energy
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it's at least directionally correct so here they are doing something that makes it easier to do
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geothermal of course i love that it's the least polluting thing you could even think of
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and they're doing a lot for um for the approvals of especially small nuclear power plants in the
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united states which is exactly what i want them to do so i'm sure if i looked into it i could find
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lots of things to complain about because big bureaucratic groups always have something wrong but i gotta
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say across two administrations with two different leaderships they seem to be pushing the country in
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the right decision the right direction and the the beauty of that is that if you get energy right
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a whole lot of other things work out on their own like the economy you know if we lowered energy
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prices and made the environment clean and suddenly everything everything starts fixing itself
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and i've always i've been saying for maybe 20 years that the most important technology in the world
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would be holes just holes if you could figure out and make a hole in the ground really cheaply then
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you could do all the geothermal you wanted and you'd have basically unlimited energy but the trouble is
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digging the hole so if you can figure out holes you pretty much solve most of the big problems in energy
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there is a study by min jay kim in the conversation found out that uh that people's voters moral
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flexibility as he called it helps them defend politicians misinformation so what it means is if you
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like your politician and you generally like the side that your politician is on and they come up with some bs
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and you say to yourself that's the politician i like but even i can tell that's a lie that you will
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rationalize their lie and disinformation as being not so bad because at least it's what you want so if you
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want what that politician is offering the study shows that you're going to be willing to flexibly
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accept that they're using some hyperbole maybe their facts don't exactly match up but you're still happy
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about where they're going so you're okay with it what does that sound like do you think they needed to do that
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study or or do you think they could have just asked me the developer of the statement that trump is even
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when his hyperbole is off base he is directionally correct that's all this is it's saying that if you
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like where your politician is heading you don't mind if they do a little hyperbole a little exaggeration
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maybe get some facts wrong it doesn't really matter right so i use this argument all the time
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with trump which is if you want the border closed and trump's telling some stories and maybe some of
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them are not exactly true if it gets the border closed i'm pretty happy about it right am i gonna
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am i gonna mind that he got some anecdotal story wrong and maybe it wasn't because of illegal
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migrants that somebody died i don't really care as long as you get some border closed and if if
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telling stories that get people worked up gets it done yes i am morally flexible so yeah you didn't
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need to do this study you could have asked me i'm totally morally flexible about saving lives and keeping
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people safe if it takes a little fibbing i'm okay with that i mean i would prefer their word on but if
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you have to choose between two fibers i'll take the fiber that's directionally accurate
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anyway um there's a u.s startup that can charge you a lot of money up to fifty thousand dollars
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to screen your embryo for iq so if i guess this is only applicable to people who are doing the
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in vitro fertilization so you've got a number of eggs and you can check which ones you think you like
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the best so what do you think of that fifty thousand of course we'll limit it to a very
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um select group of people but if you could do it cheaply if you could do it cheaply would you pick
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the high iq baby dev for your own baby if you don't i would have many questions for you because the the
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correlation between iq and success is so clear so clear that if you if you had the option of doing it and
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you didn't do it i'd have to wonder about you i mean mental health is just one part of health
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if you could screen and you found out that one was going to be um that well i won't mention any
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specific physical problem because then there'll be somebody who will say hey you're talking about me
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but you can imagine that that we all know there's a certain set of physical traits that'll make your
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life easier a little bit taller is a little bit easier than a little bit shorter a little bit
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smarter is definitely easier than not smart so if you could if you could uh control for these things
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yeah you'd do it why wouldn't you in a sense people are already doing it because when they're looking at
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donors sperm donors you know that guy who's the uh the ceo and founder of uh is it signal i think it's
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the signal app and and he's unusually good looking so he's tall unusually good looking and brilliant
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and apparently he's been chosen as a sperm donor like a thousand times
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you just have to take one look at him and then look at what he does for a living and you'd be like
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okay all right we'll we'll take that one that's pretty good so yeah of course people are going to
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choose iq if they can so it's legal to do this in the united states but it is illegal in great britain
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you can't select for iq okay let's uh let's run the tape forward okay we'll start uh we'll start in 2024
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we've got two countries we've got the great britain and we got uh united states united states we have the
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technology and the legal ability to choose iq in our children in the great britain let's say they
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keep it the same and we fast forward it a couple hundred years and they do not have the legal right
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to choose smarter children how do things look in 200 years
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unfortunately if one of the countries has unrestricted immigration and no iq uh no ability
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to choose iq of your own babies you're gonna have a dumber country because it's not the geniuses moving
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in because the geniuses probably have lots of options and they're fine where they are it's the
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people who are struggling so if you let in people who are struggling you're gonna get a lot of great
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workers great people there's nothing wrong with anybody at any level of the iq it's not a judgment
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call it's just a statement that it's correlated with success and great britain would be toast
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compared to a country that had been uh measure that had been you know managing to iq they'd be toast
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unless they had a better school system and then they'd be this anyway anyway
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uh according to the daily caller jennifer newell newelly is writing about uh there's a big university
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university of michigan that uh in the years since they've been working on dei they spent 250 million
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on diversity equity inclusion it's good that's good so they spent a lot of money on diversity equity
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inclusion so can you imagine the benefits they've gotten from that wow it feels so unfair because
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imagine the colleges that didn't spend any money on it imagine going to one of those hell holes but
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if you want to go to a place that's really got it worked out some place that's futuristic you know
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they they're taking care of all the people not just some but all the people spent 250 million
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dollars on dei let's see how they're doing uh according to this article uh students were were less
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likely to interact with those of a different race religion or political okay so it made people uh stay
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away from each other huh how could they have how could they have saved 250 million dollars
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if the end result was that people were emphasizing the differences and then they that caused them to
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stay away from each other how what would be a way to save money well they could have just told them
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i'm not suggesting you should but if all they got for 250 million dollars was people staying away from
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each other there was probably a cheaper way to get to that point hey hey everybody
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yeah you you all think the other is an asshole why don't you just stay away from each other
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there's nothing about dei that's good it's like no matter what they try to do it comes out bad
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now this by the way would be no surprise to anybody who studied persuasion if i wanted you to think
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obsessively about the worst thing that you could be thinking about i would make it the focus of my
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spending so if i wanted you to spend a lot of time thinking about your racial differences
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i would make a dei group i could predict that if i made a big expense and a big program around
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anything that you would be thinking about it more that would be the whole point to make you think about
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it more so if you spend more time thinking about how you're a victim and how your classmate is your
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oppressor how do you think that was going to go in the long run what you know if you were to if you
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were just sort of you know game that out on paper and you're like the designer of the system it's like
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all right we're going to design a system we're going to say let's say half of the people we're going to
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say that they're the oppressors and the other half will be the victims the victims and we'll make sure
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that everybody knows that this half is oppressors even if they had nothing to do with anything it
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was their ancestors and this group is the victims even if they're doing fine but maybe their ancestors
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weren't uh how do you think that would go in the long run there's only one way that goes those people
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end up not wanting to spend time with each other what what other way could that end up
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think all right here's the best news for me personally in a long time every now and then there'll be a thing
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that sneaks up on you because you know bad news sort of hits you in the face like ah bad news good news
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sometimes is a gradual process where something's improving over time and then one day you just
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notice hey wow that didn't used to be the case that's like way better now here's my example uh many of you
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saw and i mentioned it a few times there was a a terrible rumor about tim walls um i told you on
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live stream that i wasn't even going to tell you what the rumor was because the credibility of it was
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low it was based on one eyewitness and one account we didn't know about and it was a little too on the
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nose and it was at that time when rumors happen and you know so i so i warned you to
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to be careful about that one and uh i was cautious enough that i didn't even tell you what the rumor
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was and now i'm glad because the person spreading the rumor just disappeared so the account that had the
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rumors gone i don't know if they got canceled or what but there's no there was no further confirming
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evidence so nobody nobody found any anything that would support it now here's the bigger point
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it seems to me that the political right the republican conservative types have now developed an immune system
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that didn't that wasn't there before and the immune system is for hoaxes and what i mean by that is
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that what happened when this particular story hit the news is that a whole bunch of people immediately
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sent it to me and they said is this real but i wasn't the only one i think i think a number of other
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people on the internet who you thought were credible that maybe could help you determine if something's
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a hoax i'll bet they also got it so i don't know for sure but i'd be surprised if nobody sent it to
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you know say mike servich or bongino or some people you know just to say does this look real to you
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now i could tell you that um uh i know joshua steinman said this could be one of those bull run
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or buffalo run plays a buffalo run is where you create a fake story and you see if you can get
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one side to embrace it and then if they do you can say they're all idiots and stupid and they believe in
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fake news so you can discredit people who had been doing well until that point so you could take out a
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let's say uh alex jones you could take him out with a fake story or something like that i think
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that's what happened to sydney powell i don't have confirmation of that but i think that's what happened
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to her with that kraken story and i recognized that as at the time i don't know if you remember
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but i called that out as i feel like i feel like somebody's setting her up so that anything else
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she says you're not going to believe and i think that's actually what happened i don't have
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confirmation but anyway this latest story about waltz um probably was a buffalo run and it was
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maybe somebody was just seeing how much attention they could get but it feels like maybe somebody on
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the other team was trying to create a rumor that we could all get slapped down on and then we'd look
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silly and then people would be discredited but uh i asked today i asked for people for a list of
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people that they would go to if they were trying to figure out if something was a hoax and so i'm
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just going to read you the names of people who other people say they would trust enough to say hey let
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let me check with you first now nobody said check with cnn nobody said msnbc fox news
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any of those that they were looking to individual uh i don't want to say high value but let's say high
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credibility people right now to be fair because it was i asked the question in my own uh x feed most
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people said me as the person they would go to to to figure out if something was true or a hoax now of
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course i'm not a hundred percent because this is not a hundred percent game but i appreciate it if
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those of you who have watched me over the years develop a set of tools that i often remind you of
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have had a spot of hoax okay is it one story of one anonymous person who heard somebody say something
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you know so i always give you the examples i tell you oh that's too on the nose i look at maybe the
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source so you've those of you have been with me know that i have a toolbox that i use regularly to
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spot fake news do i get everyone right i doubt it i doubt it but the toolbox is pretty good so even if
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you say scott you're not very accurate the tools are the tools are pretty accurate if you just use them
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you you'd have the same result so i'm going to read you the names of people that i thought
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as well as the people who suggested them i thought that the these are the ones who are let's say the
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the white blood cells of the political right these are the people who will surround and destroy
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a a hoax so if you could if you knew that three or four people on this list i'm going to read
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you thought that the truth was in one direction or the other i always certainly listen to them
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all right now i'm on the list but if you even if you take me off this is a group that i consider more
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credible and more able to spot hoaxes than the average person you ready so um i don't know if
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i'll write this down but i'll just mention them if you want to if you want to play it back later all
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right uh joshua steinman mike cernovich uh there's me of course uh dan bongino mike bends mike bends
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especially for the deep state stuff and bongino especially for anything that has to do with
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secret service or the you know the way the the way the you know the the hard people work
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i know he his expertise is pretty wide katherine harridge we now she's from the real news
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but she has an unusually um good reputation for not falling for uh bs molly hemingway one of my
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favorites julie kelly jack basavik glenn greenwald matt taibi michael schellenberger
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megan kelly victor davis hansen tim pool and then here's some accounts that we don't know their names
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but their accounts on x amuse cynical publia s it's all one word cynical publia maize
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m-a-z-e that's not the handle but that's the name of the account um jonathan turley for anything
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legal alan alan dershowitz for anything legal and uh vivek ramaswamy is just generally good at
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spotting stuff now it's not a complete list i do have i mentioned matt tybee it's not a complete list
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but it does operate as like a an immune system so this was not true in 2015.
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in 2015 you couldn't tell me oh if there's a fake story in the news i've got a few people i'll check
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with so i'll check their account and see what they're saying about it that wasn't true but today
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you've got what was this 15 names you've got 15 people that you could check and if you saw the
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three of them were debunking something i would take that pretty seriously if any three of these people
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debunked the story it wouldn't matter which three if any three of them said i'd hold on in this one
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hold on on that one so that's your your uh that's your advice for today and by the way i love the fact
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that the political right derives its power from the group it seems that the political left is deriving
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its power from the top some shadowy figures maybe obama and pelosi and god knows who soros
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uh but you can see that the political right is is a bottom-up situation yeah you saw that uh when trump
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visited the barbershop uh you probably saw that i was suggesting you know trump should go to a barbershop
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i said it for a few weeks but i wasn't the only one so and i have no reason to believe that that's the
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reason he went to the barbershop i think probably there were if i had to guess probably several uh
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black advisors to trump who said you know you know it would be a good idea black barbershop
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so when you watch trump you often see somebody who's continually scanning his own field and looking for
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ideas and one of the things i also teach you is the person who's in charge in any situation is one with
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the best idea because you can't resist the best idea so if you had the president you know future
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president of the united states and also past president you know you say that's the most powerful person in
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the room but if one of the persons in the room had the idea you know it'd look good go to a black
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barbershop you'd kill it that's the best idea in the room so whoever said that's in charge because
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that's what trump did now it's it's hard to wrap your head around that that the best idea is always
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in charge but it is you'll see it a million times and i think it's unique it's uniquely well formed on
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the right and i think that trump has a lot to do with that because it's so obvious that he is listening
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to the ideas that are bubbling up and he and he's putting value on them ontario the wait is over the
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alarm according to the gateway pundit on some voting machines that have allegedly switched votes in georgia's
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14th district what that means is somebody voted a certain way and then they printed out the ballot
00:32:33.420
and the printed ballot this should have matched what they just did on the screen is the opposite
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that's right there are reported stories that this this cycle apparently people are voting and then
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printing it out and it doesn't match what they voted now this is one machine
00:32:52.140
how can it happen on one machine do you think one of those machines had a bad piece of hardware
00:33:01.420
was it a hardware problem that made one machine vote opposite of what the actual vote was
00:33:09.100
doesn't sound like it does it if you've ever been around hardware and software if you had two machines
00:33:16.700
and one of them was changing the vote you probably would rule out hardware as the problem a hardware
00:33:25.020
problem is where just something doesn't work that's that's a software problem now if you knew that there was
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one machine and let's say you could confirm it and by the way i have not confirmed this so remember i just
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told you to uh watch out for hoaxes i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you on this one if you have one account
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of one machine that's not good enough so i i need more i need more on this before i believe it
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now all it would take is extra witnesses because it sounds like the report would be something that
00:34:01.500
that it sounds like they repeated it so that actually people stood there and said wait can you do that
00:34:07.340
again and they reproduce the problem so i think there are multiple witnesses now i would like to hear
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literally from the multiple witnesses i don't want to hear a report that somebody talked to multiple
00:34:20.220
witnesses for something like this i want to see more than one person say i was standing there
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i was in the room i watched it with my own eyes i watched it change if you give me that i believe it now
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here's the problem suppose you do convince me that this happened on one machine once it's software
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how in the world does one machine get software that changes votes just one
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nobody in the world would believe it was on just one machine
00:34:55.340
now if you were going to put that sort of thing into a machine would you make it change every vote
00:35:05.660
or will you do it on maybe just some machines because you wouldn't need to do it everywhere
00:35:10.540
or would you do it at a random interval such that it would do it every time for every 13th vote
00:35:18.620
but all the rest would be normal how would you do it well i would i wouldn't do it for every vote
00:35:26.060
because that would be too obvious but uh if it happened on one machine i would cancel the election
00:35:36.460
let me say that again if it were confirmed that that one machine in one precinct this one time
00:35:44.060
reverse the vote i would cancel the whole election and i would say we can't use machines anymore
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and then i would say give us six months change out every system do it on paper make the election one
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day you better bring your id and then we'll have a real election but we're already at the point where
00:36:05.180
there isn't really any chance we can have a real election here people you know that right
00:36:09.340
i mean i don't want to be like a crazy you know the wolf is coming but we're well beyond the point
00:36:19.820
where we're going to believe the outcome of the election aren't we is most of the country so not
00:36:27.340
paying attention that they don't know what's going on we're well beyond trusting the outcome of the
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election i already reject it unless it goes the way i want i'm going to be very clear about this
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if trump gets elected which is what i want i'm going to accept the outcome
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if he doesn't get elected and the polls are similar to kind of what they are now
00:36:52.700
and and there looks like there's some shenanigans and more reports like this which there will be
00:36:58.380
i'm not going to accept the outcome and nobody should nobody should accept an outcome that looks sketchy
00:37:05.500
when you have a system that's designed not to tell you who got elected so do not tell me in advance
00:37:13.340
that i need to accept the election do not ask me in advance will i accept the election
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the answer is can you do an election that is credible the answer is no so i'm going to accept
00:37:26.140
it if i like it and that is the correct answer the correct answer is i will accept it if it looks
00:37:33.500
legitimate and it's the one i want to win if it doesn't look legitimate and it's not the one i
00:37:39.580
wanted to win i am absolutely not going to accept it which means we don't have a real election that
00:37:45.420
we're going into that whatever is going to happen is not an election i have no idea what the fuck
00:37:50.460
this is going to be but it looks like just a disaster to me so i would say the odds of massive
00:37:57.660
street protests are pretty high no matter which way it goes so that's coming but luckily there's only
00:38:07.420
this one story about this machine changing a vote thank goodness it's only happening in this one place
00:38:18.060
uh except that um there have been multiple complaints in texas about uh same thing
00:38:28.780
uh so apparently we got a problem here got a problem on a separate topic
00:38:42.460
megan kelly had a dr marty mccari on talking about the story of how we've came to believe in the past
00:38:48.860
that fat the natural kind of fat was bad for us turns out it was just uh uh there's some politician
00:38:58.380
scientist named ansel keys who after eisenhower had a heart attack he just said it must have been
00:39:04.460
all the fatty ate and then for years the entire food industry decided that fat was bad for you
00:39:11.420
because the guy said it once that's sort of the whole story there was a guy who said it once
00:39:19.180
and then all of the dietary the dietary model for the entire world changed because the guy said it once
00:39:28.380
none of it was true it turns out that you know fat's not so bad for you but what will kill you
00:39:35.420
is the things that people were eating instead of fat so they started eating you know more carbs and
00:39:41.100
processed foods and everything went to hell anyway um you've probably seen this by now but it remains funny
00:39:49.660
that uh so musk was doing his pennsylvania rallies he's doing several rallies to help trump in pennsylvania
00:39:58.780
and uh you talked about you saw mark cuban uh being interviewed by rachel maddow and he couldn't tell
00:40:09.100
now uh it is very politically incorrect because i'm sure it's insulting somebody but because you can't
00:40:19.980
figure out which one is being insulted it's diabolically clever as a as a as an insult
00:40:27.340
because my first thought is hey he's insulting um oh wait a minute is he insulting rachel maddow
00:40:36.860
or is he insulting mark cuban or wait a minute all he's saying is they look the same
00:40:43.020
but which one's being insulted are they both being insulted and here's the thing they're both good
00:40:52.300
looking people so so it gets it becomes extra confusing because in my opinion i mean you you
00:41:00.940
can disagree if you like but they're both good looking people period they're just both good
00:41:06.460
looking people you know most people would rather look like one of them than whatever they look like
00:41:12.300
you know if you if you count good hair and good skin and tall and you know stuff like that
00:41:18.380
so i don't know i just think it's it's hilarious when he says it i laugh every time uh and i just
00:41:26.540
love how complicated it is when you think about whether who's getting insulted and why but you know
00:41:33.020
i don't like to insult people's physical appearance too much i'm sure i i'm sure i break my own rule
00:41:39.260
sometimes but this one's funny just because they're both you know they're both brilliant successful rich
00:41:45.740
good-looking people so it doesn't hit like it would be if you're punching down
00:41:52.540
all right um some of you know that uh the young turks host uh jenk and i hope i pronounce his last name
00:42:01.020
right is it weger is it jenk weger is that close to the correct pronunciation for some reason i never
00:42:08.780
hear his last name pronounced out loud i see it written all the time and i see his first name sometimes
00:42:15.340
pronounced but i've never heard i've never heard a single person on tv or social media say his last
00:42:22.460
name and i keep waiting for it so i'll say it correct yuger oh i'm being corrected here it's yuger not weger
00:42:33.260
thank you okay so the correct pronunciation would be yuger so u y would be pronounced as if it were
00:42:41.180
backwards perfect i'm dyslexic so i'll get that right every time anyway he's a he said trump is crazy
00:42:49.660
and the fact that half of this country can't see it is one of the most amazing things in my lifetime
00:42:55.100
so here we go i challenge any conservative with a real audience to debate me either on our air or yours
00:43:01.420
on trump so i volunteered i sent him an email this morning i haven't heard back i just sent it before
00:43:07.580
the show now i don't know if i have a big enough platform he's looking for somebody who's got an
00:43:12.540
audience maybe mine isn't big enough but i love how he started it um and this is what i like about him
00:43:21.180
trump is so crazy and the fact that half this country can't see it is one of the most amazing
00:43:26.380
things in my lifetime so he is he is noticing this so here's what i like about him i disagree with jenk
00:43:35.340
a lot you know on politics but whenever i see him wrestling with it he seems to be using the right tools
00:43:45.980
in other words he's a smart guy who understands bias and he understands you know that we're kind of
00:43:53.180
hypnotized half the time and he seems to simply just be working with different information and i
00:43:59.740
feel like if he and i were exposed to exactly the same information if you know we might actually have
00:44:07.660
very similar opinions so that's what makes it fascinating um you know there's some people you say
00:44:13.820
okay no matter how much i talk to them they're not they're never going to change their mind because
00:44:17.740
they'd be too embarrassed to ever change their mind i don't think he is i i think jenk if he heard
00:44:24.380
a better argument live in the context of where he was even trying to win the argument i believe he's
00:44:30.780
actually bold enough that he could change his mind right in front of you and i could too i i could
00:44:38.780
actually do that as well i could completely modify my opinion if i heard something from him that i'd never
00:44:44.780
heard and it sounded real i could say huh that's actually a pretty good point now there aren't many
00:44:51.100
people who can do that because the embarrassment of changing your mind in public is pretty extreme
00:44:58.300
but if you watch him operate for a while he doesn't seem like he's he's operating under fear so he
00:45:05.100
doesn't seem to have a fear variable which means that you could deal with him on a like a logical
00:45:11.980
basis he would have all the logic and the knowledge but he wouldn't have the fear that would make him
00:45:18.540
locked into a point of view so that's what's different so otherwise i wouldn't have bothered
00:45:23.660
because you'd just be you know somebody be talking over you and the time would run out nothing would
00:45:28.620
happen but i actually think he's a real player he's not an npc um it doesn't mean it would go well
00:45:37.180
but as something that would be worth worth a shot i think his audience would be benefited from
00:45:44.460
hearing my point of view because it would be distinct from something they've heard before
00:45:49.020
and uh i think i would benefit from hearing his point of view because i'm not sure i fully understand it
00:45:57.500
so so i volunteered and i i would uh add this to my earlier statements
00:46:04.060
about the names you've learned as your your immune system against fake news that the fact that
00:46:15.500
cenk and i could even have this exchange is a positive thing because if you say to me i'm going
00:46:22.860
to take two elected politicians or two candidates for elected office and they're going to have a debate
00:46:28.300
the first thing i say is well that's worthless because they're both going to lie about a bunch
00:46:32.460
of stuff and then time will run out nobody fact checks them but if you took two uh people who are
00:46:40.380
not running for office who are who have some pattern in in their past of looking for what's true as
00:46:48.460
opposed to just trying to win then you really have something potentially you know if you have two
00:46:56.140
people who honestly just want to understand the thing that's something because that's not what
00:47:02.540
the politicians are doing the politicians are trying to win the election and everybody understands that
00:47:07.020
there's nothing wrong with that everybody gets that but it is possible that two people were not
00:47:12.140
running for election who both would really most like to just understand what's true and what's not true
00:47:20.060
that's different that's different and this might be one of those cases i don't know it's worth a shot
00:47:26.540
when i found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners i started wondering is every
00:47:32.940
fabulous item i see from winners like that woman over there with the designer jeans are those from
00:47:38.700
winners ooh are those beautiful gold earrings did she pay full price or that leather tote or that
00:47:44.460
cashmere sweater or those knee-high boots that dress that jacket those shoes is anyone paying full price
00:47:51.180
for anything stop wondering start winning winners find fabulous for less
00:47:57.980
well according to the daily caller trump is leading in all major swing state polling averages
00:48:03.420
um and then also um according to fox news poll trump is also ahead in the popular vote by two percent now you
00:48:14.060
know that there are other there are other polls that still say different so uh but i did see that most of
00:48:23.180
the polls are starting to tighten up and they're at least saying that trump is either statistically tied
00:48:29.020
when it used to be way behind so right on time just as you imagined the polls are tightening up
00:48:35.580
according to uh fox news is uh sarah rumpf witten uh polls are also finding that most americans say
00:48:47.180
they're worse off from four years ago now in the article i noted that uh well the article noted that um
00:48:55.660
um the last time it was so bad was under bill clinton uh the last time that people thought they were worse
00:49:03.980
off now bill clinton managed to beat a somewhat popular incumbent you know in bush senior it's very
00:49:12.700
unusual to beat an incumbent but part of the reason is because people thought they were worse off
00:49:19.580
and uh clinton was saying you know it's the economy stupid so he had a good message however there's
00:49:24.940
something missing from the story isn't there wasn't this the ross perot year if you took ross perot
00:49:33.100
out of the mix george bush would have won so so we don't really have that as an example that people
00:49:43.100
will change their vote radically because they were worse off you know or they're worse off than they were
00:49:49.580
so i'm not sure that's telling us as much as it could be telling us but it's not nothing if people
00:49:56.060
think they're worse off i would think that would motivate them to vote differently steve bannon is
00:50:01.980
running into a little trouble getting out of jail apparently he tried to use uh and this is sort of
00:50:07.740
is it ironic i don't know um he tried to use the uh process where if you do the right things and study
00:50:14.940
something you get an early release um because i guess he did what he was supposed to do to get
00:50:21.420
that early release but he's just being ignored so it looks like they're going to keep him in jail longer
00:50:27.500
than the process suggests because he did the part of the process that would make him eligible for the
00:50:34.540
early release there's no reason not to they're just not ruling on it so they're just letting his his
00:50:41.340
requests sit there for days and days and days so that's probably exactly what it looks like
00:50:50.860
um i like to talk about this question of whether trump is going to jail his enemies so i keep as
00:50:59.660
i'm watching the fake news develop what their new fake news message is going to be the new one is that
00:51:05.260
trump has said in a variety of different ways in different places that he would
00:51:11.340
try to jail his enemies i'm not hearing that like the only times i've heard it it was obviously not
00:51:21.020
anything to worry about but apparently they're like four different times he said something slightly in
00:51:26.620
that domain but here's my take there are a number of democrats that in my opinion have so cleanly and
00:51:34.860
obviously broke major laws that if you if you don't have them processed the country is going to wonder
00:51:41.900
why not now i'm very careful about i don't want a president trump to lawfare his enemies because he can
00:51:54.300
not cool not cool at all but i do believe that a number of his enemies have done things that
00:52:01.340
to me seem so obviously illegal that that should be looked into but if you look into it and you don't
00:52:08.300
find a crime then no no it you know i think uh uh shift was mentioned and i don't know if shift has
00:52:18.620
committed anything that's actually a crime but if you look at the hoaxes that he has run on the american
00:52:24.620
people you know the the the russia collusion hoax the laptop hoax the uh i was in the skiff and i saw
00:52:32.700
something that wasn't really their hoax and it's just one hoax after another now is anything that illegal
00:52:39.820
i don't know i mean i can't think of a specific law that would be broken by any of it
00:52:44.620
but if there is some law that he broke and it's consequential and it's not just some lawfare thing
00:52:53.740
that they looked until they found something yes yes i believe the legal system should do what it does
00:53:01.020
of course now here's what the the democrats don't understand when they complain about it i don't think
00:53:07.820
they understand the degree of lawlessness in their own side it's pretty extreme and so if trump decides
00:53:16.220
that there are a bunch of people who are enemies and also have grossly broken the law yeah he should
00:53:23.020
go after him like isn't that his job so the way you should talk about it is not that he's going to do
00:53:30.380
some terrible terrible unconstitutional thing the question should be shouldn't the attorney general
00:53:37.660
be prosecuting real crimes there's nobody i know who would be in favor of trump jailing somebody on a
00:53:45.740
made-up charge so let me say this as loudly and clearly as i can in case there are any democrats
00:53:51.660
listening i am so out if i see republicans trying to lawfare democrats just because they can that that is
00:54:03.180
absolutely hard no i mean i would register well i'm already registered as a democrat for safety
00:54:11.820
but i would start voting democrat if you do that i mean that's way over the line way over the line
00:54:19.500
absolutely no tolerance for that whatsoever but real crimes real crimes yeah if they're real crimes
00:54:27.020
that made a difference to the real public of course that's the job of the attorney general and
00:54:33.340
the president should be back in that now um i think i told you that uh there's going to be a lot more
00:54:43.580
january 6 conversations and i can't remember if i said this only on the pre-show i might have
00:54:49.500
but i'll say it again if you get in a conversation about january 6 and specifically trump's involvement
00:55:01.900
the assumption that the democrats make is that trump knew he lost and that everybody else knew he lost
00:55:09.740
that's the only thing you should go after you should go after the fact that we do not have a system
00:55:15.260
which even now could make you feel comfortable with the result and that half of the country agrees
00:55:21.900
with the idea that the elections are not secure and i think we can say that there were some irregularities
00:55:30.060
in the output that did not look like they could have happened naturally now if you put that all together
00:55:38.140
along with trump's natural optimism that you know things should go his way the most reasonable assumption
00:55:45.260
is that he did believe he did believe the election was rigged and that everything he did was in the
00:55:51.660
service of correcting a mistake that the country would want corrected and that it was his job to correct
00:55:59.980
if you believe that he knew the election was fair and he lost fair and square well then he's an insurrectionist
00:56:08.620
and by the way i would be i would even think that myself i mean not insurrectionist technically because
00:56:16.780
you know the law was not broken in that regard but if it looked like he had convinced people for years
00:56:25.340
to protest and act differently based on something that was not true and he knew it well i'd have a real
00:56:32.940
problem with that but i believe it's clearly obvious that he believes still and did believe then that the
00:56:40.860
election was stolen and that he was trying to fix that so if you get into the conversation of who died
00:56:49.020
like did ashley babbitt was she the only one who died did the other ones die lately was there danger you
00:56:54.780
don't have to talk about any of that because you know what trump didn't do that trump didn't hit
00:57:00.860
anybody now you could say that he he caused people to be worked up but if the election had been stolen
00:57:09.100
right in front of us as it looked like to him and as it looked like to tens of millions of americans
00:57:15.500
that it looked like it had been stolen i don't mind the little violence now i don't recommend it
00:57:23.260
it and and i wish you wouldn't do it but we do live in a country where if somebody tried to steal
00:57:30.460
the election right in front of you and you were pretty sure it happened and it led to a little
00:57:35.180
bit of violence we're not worse off it's only the threat of violence that makes anything work
00:57:42.940
so i prefer no violence and if you don't like the election outcome this time don't do anything violent
00:57:48.700
so avoid all violence nothing good can come from it but it's just the truth that the threat of
00:57:56.380
violence the credible threat of violence is the only thing that keeps society together
00:58:00.860
the threat that somebody big will come take you out if you do something that bad
00:58:07.660
so the only thing that matters is did trump legitimately think the election was rigged
00:58:15.020
and i wouldn't go any further in the conversation because if he did then he was pushing the right
00:58:22.460
buttons maybe there was some violence we don't and that was even caused by that if he was right
00:58:29.660
the risk of a little violence was a an acceptable risk
00:58:34.700
if he was right the election was rigged the the risk not the guarantee of it but the risk of a little
00:58:42.540
bit of violence was worth the risk tragic that still makes it tragic it's not less tragic i'm
00:58:50.620
not taking the empathy anyway but we live in a country where every now and then you got to do
00:58:56.620
something that's hard and tough to put things back on track right we don't like to go to war but
00:59:03.900
sometimes we have to we don't like to shoot anybody who's mentally ill but they're coming after
00:59:10.140
a cop to kill them but sometimes you have to and i definitely don't want any violence around anything
00:59:15.980
like an election but if an election gets thrown right in front of you and has every signal of looking
00:59:23.420
thrown and people say it and the saying of it causes some action which leads to a little bit of violence
00:59:31.580
violence i'm not going to encourage the violence and i'm not going to compliment it i'm going to note
00:59:41.180
that it's a necessary variable to keep civilization in order
00:59:46.380
so talk about only whether it was true that it was rigged and whether or not he believed it was rigged
00:59:52.220
which is more to the point it matters what he believed and it matters what tens of millions of
00:59:57.740
americans believed and observed and at this point i i accepted the election result
01:00:06.300
because i thought the system as bad as it was created a result and i didn't see any way to fix it
01:00:13.260
so i never changed my mind from accepting the result but separately do i think that the election was rigged
01:00:20.700
yes yes and i don't need evidence for that what i need is to look at the system and see that it's
01:00:29.020
clearly designed in a way that nobody would design it if they didn't want it rigged
01:00:35.180
it's designed to be rigged the design is very clear so the odds of it being rigged i think are 100
01:00:43.100
percent now whether it was rigged enough i don't know was it rigged in both directions is it possible
01:00:50.700
there was rigging both ways could be that there's nothing that would prevent that so i don't know who
01:00:57.180
won but i don't think the election is something you could consider credible and i don't think the
01:01:02.860
coming one is credible in the least not even a little bit really that's my opinion
01:01:08.060
so i don't know what we're going to do about it um i'm confident that we'll work it out
01:01:15.420
because the the one thing i love about america i love a lot about it but one thing i love in particular
01:01:21.180
is we're really good at figuring stuff out like even hard stuff we will figure it out
01:01:29.580
um but i don't know how because it'll be a it'll be a more based on you know who has power to do what
01:01:37.100
it won't be based on what's logical or what's the best thing to do but we'll work it out one way or
01:01:42.060
the other we'll be okay all right that's all i have for this saturday i'm gonna say goodbye to youtube
01:01:50.300
and rumble and x i'm going to talk to the wonderful people on locals privately for a moment and uh
01:01:57.500
thanks for joining i'll see you tomorrow same time same place