Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2722 CWSA 01⧸16⧸25

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00:00:15.340 It's the dopamine at the end of the day thing that makes everything better.

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00:00:20.520 Go.

00:00:28.360 So good.

00:00:29.140 Has Starship taken off yet?

00:00:31.720 That happens today, right?

00:00:33.480 There's going to be a consequential launch of Starship 7, SpaceX.

00:00:40.180 And this one, I guess, is going to take some payloads up.

00:00:44.100 It's going to take a payload up first time.

00:00:47.620 And they'll be testing things like multiple reentry and return to Earth

00:00:52.640 and see if Elon Musk's giant tweezers can catch it again.

00:00:58.020 Giant tweezers.

00:00:59.640 You call it giant chopsticks, but that's racist.

00:01:03.860 They're really giant tweezers.

00:01:07.160 The FDA is banned red dye number three, according to the AP.

00:01:12.280 So 35 years after it was borrowed in cosmetics,

00:01:15.980 I guess it was argued that it was different when you ate it.

00:01:20.180 Well, it causes cancer if it touches the outside of your skin.

00:01:24.620 But it's okay to eat it.

00:01:28.020 Um, do I have any skin on the inside of my body?

00:01:32.400 Stop asking questions.

00:01:34.900 Um, not the skin per se, but let's say tissue.

00:01:38.260 All right, uh, I wonder, is this the Kennedy effect?

00:01:43.520 That, does it strike you as kind of a big coincidence

00:01:46.180 that the easiest thing the FDA could have ever banned,

00:01:50.200 it was the easiest,

00:01:51.560 that it got done just before, uh, RFK Jr. gets into office

00:01:56.860 and who said he would ban it?

00:01:57.920 Is the entire reason that they're banning it now

00:02:01.760 to make sure that RFK Jr. doesn't get an easy win?

00:02:05.940 Because that's messed up.

00:02:08.520 Although sooner is better.

00:02:10.080 So sooner is better.

00:02:11.420 But it looks kind of messed up, doesn't it?

00:02:14.760 To me, it looks like this is entirely politicized.

00:02:17.880 They got the right answer, I'm pretty sure.

00:02:19.820 But the timing.

00:02:23.280 Like, that, I don't know what could make me hate the FDA more.

00:02:27.780 That it took 35 years to do this,

00:02:30.600 or that when they finally did it,

00:02:31.880 apparently the only reason is that RFK Jr. is coming into office

00:02:35.180 and he's just going to rip them apart.

00:02:37.820 I don't know if he'll rip them apart,

00:02:39.420 but you know what I mean.

00:02:40.540 Yeah, I think this is the Kennedy effect.

00:02:42.200 And you could argue.

00:02:46.100 Therefore, by extension, it would be,

00:02:48.640 it would be a Trump effect,

00:02:51.680 but not really the one I wanted.

00:02:54.460 Well, I do want it, because I wanted this ban.

00:02:56.980 But, uh, the fact that it's just purely political

00:02:59.740 is, that's not giving me any confidence.

00:03:03.480 Anyway, or it could be just the biggest coincidence

00:03:05.980 in the world of when it happened.

00:03:08.820 Well, Meta has a new AI model for translating speech,

00:03:12.200 and you say to yourself,

00:03:13.780 uh, Scott, uh,

00:03:15.700 they've been able to translate speech

00:03:18.220 on the internet for a long time,

00:03:20.620 so why is this even a story?

00:03:22.820 Well, apparently the old way,

00:03:24.620 or the common way,

00:03:25.840 to translate speech is,

00:03:27.460 first it turns it into text,

00:03:29.080 and then it turns it into the other language,

00:03:31.980 and then it translates it.

00:03:33.380 So they figured out somehow to use AI

00:03:35.080 to just directly translate,

00:03:37.060 so it doesn't go through the intermediate steps.

00:03:39.660 And apparently that makes it nearly instant.

00:03:42.820 Imagine having a conversation with somebody

00:03:45.020 in another language,

00:03:46.620 where you're just talking into your phone,

00:03:48.460 and the translation is not instant,

00:03:51.680 but let's say it got there in one second.

00:03:54.360 That would be really transformative.

00:03:57.680 You could have a reasonable phone call,

00:04:00.040 a reasonable phone call with somebody,

00:04:02.560 or a Zoom call, I guess, first,

00:04:04.760 with somebody who didn't speak the language,

00:04:06.500 and it almost wouldn't make a difference.

00:04:09.500 You know, that little,

00:04:10.600 I don't know exactly the delay,

00:04:12.040 but, you know,

00:04:12.800 if there's like a second or something,

00:04:14.360 it's still going to be mildly annoying,

00:04:16.460 but you'd have perfect ability to communicate.

00:04:19.880 That's really a game changer.

00:04:21.560 You know, the things that sneak up on you

00:04:23.280 are the things that just sort of get better every year,

00:04:26.840 so you're not really paying attention.

00:04:28.540 But then there's one year

00:04:30.320 where it's not about just getting a little better.

00:04:33.060 It's now just a completely different application.

00:04:35.940 It's so good.

00:04:37.100 That's one of these.

00:04:39.020 Anyway, 100 different languages.

00:04:41.000 Very impressive.

00:04:43.480 Justice Alito,

00:04:44.860 he's a Supreme Court justice, of course,

00:04:50.160 and he's talking about,

00:04:51.920 there's a case before them,

00:04:53.880 some kind of free speech versus porn situation,

00:04:58.000 and I guess Pornhub is part of the conversation

00:05:00.060 in the Supreme Court.

00:05:01.120 And this is actually a real thing

00:05:04.080 that Justice Alito asked in public

00:05:06.580 in the Supreme, well, in the Supreme Court.

00:05:09.020 He said,

00:05:09.660 is it like the old Playboy magazine?

00:05:12.180 You have essays there

00:05:13.260 by the modern-day equivalent of Gore Vidal

00:05:15.980 and William F. Buckley Jr.?

00:05:18.120 Yeah.

00:05:21.460 Yeah.

00:05:22.380 There's Justice Alito acting like

00:05:24.180 he has no idea what Pornhub is.

00:05:27.040 Now, I'm not saying he's ever used it,

00:05:29.520 but it reminded me of a couple of stories.

00:05:32.920 Number one,

00:05:34.180 the first thing I did

00:05:35.060 when I got out of college

00:05:36.080 and entered the real world,

00:05:37.420 it was almost the first thing,

00:05:39.220 I got a subscription to Playboy magazine

00:05:41.920 because I thought to myself,

00:05:44.800 wait a minute,

00:05:45.580 this was pre-internet,

00:05:46.940 I hate to say,

00:05:47.820 pre-internet,

00:05:48.820 and I thought,

00:05:49.320 are you telling me

00:05:50.240 that all I have to do

00:05:51.820 is give them money

00:05:52.900 and they will send me pictures

00:05:54.660 of beautiful naked women

00:05:56.000 like once a month

00:05:57.700 and it's just like

00:05:59.200 for a little bit of money

00:06:00.240 and I thought I'd die

00:06:02.480 and go to heaven.

00:06:03.220 I was so happy to be an adult

00:06:04.800 and then I started getting it

00:06:06.640 and of course,

00:06:07.260 it was just as good

00:06:08.320 as I'd hoped.

00:06:09.300 Again,

00:06:10.060 pre-internet.

00:06:11.520 But somewhere along that time,

00:06:13.260 because I never really canceled it

00:06:14.640 and time goes by,

00:06:16.360 and I start reading the articles

00:06:18.220 and then sooner or later,

00:06:20.560 I was the article.

00:06:22.200 So I was one of the big interviews,

00:06:23.840 so I was featured in Playboy

00:06:25.660 and it was just an interview.

00:06:26.920 I didn't have to take off my clothes.

00:06:29.180 And eventually,

00:06:29.940 the internet comes in

00:06:31.120 and of course,

00:06:31.880 it saturates the world

00:06:32.960 with a tremendous amount of porn

00:06:35.580 to the point

00:06:37.540 where looking at the pictures

00:06:39.720 in the magazine

00:06:40.640 didn't seem interesting at all.

00:06:43.900 Sure,

00:06:44.300 I mean,

00:06:45.240 if it was right in front of you,

00:06:46.360 you'd look at it.

00:06:47.020 But this is actually true.

00:06:50.080 There's no exaggeration in this.

00:06:52.420 Toward the end

00:06:53.240 of my many years subscription,

00:06:56.260 I actually didn't look at the pictures.

00:06:58.980 That's literally true,

00:07:00.080 I swear to God.

00:07:00.960 And it wasn't because

00:07:01.680 I didn't like looking at

00:07:02.760 that kind of picture.

00:07:04.480 It's just that

00:07:05.120 the internet was full of it.

00:07:07.100 But the internet didn't have

00:07:08.100 good articles all the time.

00:07:10.300 So the articles were genuinely very good.

00:07:12.820 That's a true statement.

00:07:14.740 So believe it or not,

00:07:15.660 that's a real thing.

00:07:18.760 Which,

00:07:19.540 you know,

00:07:19.820 at the moment,

00:07:20.500 Playboy's not doing so well.

00:07:23.800 And,

00:07:24.100 but it also reminds me

00:07:25.140 of the time

00:07:25.420 I went to a D.A.R.E.

00:07:26.960 A D.A.R.E. program

00:07:27.900 for adults

00:07:28.680 when I was a stepdad

00:07:31.060 of younger kids.

00:07:32.600 And they would have

00:07:33.400 a program

00:07:33.860 where just the parents

00:07:35.260 would come in

00:07:35.880 to learn what,

00:07:37.260 maybe how to spot

00:07:38.420 their kids

00:07:38.900 getting into drugs

00:07:40.240 or stuff.

00:07:41.140 And one of the questions

00:07:42.100 was the police officer

00:07:43.520 who was giving the class,

00:07:45.500 he held up this bag

00:07:46.980 of white powder

00:07:48.140 that may have been cocaine

00:07:49.740 or may have been

00:07:50.660 a simulation of cocaine.

00:07:51.840 I don't know.

00:07:52.560 He goes,

00:07:53.120 all right,

00:07:53.600 class,

00:07:54.420 class of adults.

00:07:55.820 He goes,

00:07:56.700 who can tell me,

00:07:58.020 you know,

00:07:58.280 take a guess

00:07:58.940 what this would cost

00:08:00.180 if you bought it

00:08:00.800 on the street.

00:08:02.120 Now,

00:08:02.760 I've never bought cocaine.

00:08:04.820 So I have no idea

00:08:05.920 what cocaine costs.

00:08:07.360 But the last thing

00:08:08.620 I was going to do

00:08:09.300 in front of a class

00:08:10.540 full of police

00:08:11.340 was get an accurate answer

00:08:13.440 to what it cost.

00:08:15.360 So my first impulse

00:08:17.100 was the answer,

00:08:18.340 you know,

00:08:18.480 raise my hand

00:08:19.220 just to throw off the scent.

00:08:21.400 I'd be like,

00:08:21.940 hmm,

00:08:22.580 big bag,

00:08:23.580 baggy full of cocaine.

00:08:24.960 What would that cost?

00:08:25.980 I'd go,

00:08:27.040 $14?

00:08:30.440 You know,

00:08:31.480 just to make sure

00:08:32.180 they didn't

00:08:32.820 stake out my house.

00:08:35.420 All right.

00:08:35.860 speaking of free speech,

00:08:37.700 Dr. Drew,

00:08:39.340 this is terrible

00:08:40.520 but funny

00:08:41.380 because it's so

00:08:42.200 freaking bad.

00:08:43.780 Dr. Drew's

00:08:44.860 been having this issue

00:08:46.520 with his YouTube

00:08:47.400 episodes

00:08:48.980 being

00:08:50.200 banned.

00:08:51.700 I don't know

00:08:52.040 what the right word is,

00:08:52.980 banned or demonetized

00:08:54.620 or something removed,

00:08:56.020 I think,

00:08:56.820 on YouTube.

00:08:57.540 So it's not

00:08:58.080 his entire account,

00:08:59.080 just some specific ones.

00:09:00.640 And I guess

00:09:01.040 they had some

00:09:02.140 medical

00:09:03.780 conversations

00:09:05.000 about

00:09:05.560 guess what?

00:09:07.420 You don't even

00:09:08.340 have to wonder

00:09:08.840 what it's about,

00:09:09.540 right?

00:09:09.920 So it's something

00:09:10.680 about

00:09:11.060 probably

00:09:11.920 vaccinations.

00:09:14.280 So

00:09:14.300 the bad part

00:09:18.280 is that

00:09:19.260 real

00:09:19.860 credible

00:09:20.460 doctors

00:09:21.080 couldn't have

00:09:22.240 a conversation

00:09:22.980 that involved

00:09:24.160 their best thinking

00:09:25.800 based on the

00:09:26.820 best information

00:09:27.620 available.

00:09:28.820 That was not

00:09:29.900 allowed.

00:09:30.440 Let me just

00:09:30.840 say that again.

00:09:31.400 two

00:09:32.780 credible

00:09:33.920 doctors

00:09:35.600 were not

00:09:38.300 allowed to

00:09:38.720 have a

00:09:39.040 conversation

00:09:39.720 that utilized

00:09:41.380 the best

00:09:41.940 information

00:09:42.480 available to

00:09:43.180 both of them

00:09:43.800 and their

00:09:44.860 opinions on it.

00:09:46.740 That was not

00:09:47.560 allowed

00:09:47.920 because YouTube

00:09:49.720 decided that

00:09:50.580 their opinion

00:09:51.280 of what was

00:09:52.320 true

00:09:52.620 was superior.

00:09:55.080 Was it

00:09:56.040 their doctors

00:09:57.020 that decided?

00:09:57.900 I don't

00:09:59.260 know.

00:10:00.460 But here's

00:10:01.400 the punchline

00:10:04.540 that YouTube

00:10:06.220 is demanding

00:10:08.020 that Dr.

00:10:09.360 True

00:10:09.640 go to some

00:10:11.320 kind of

00:10:11.620 re-education

00:10:12.460 camp.

00:10:15.360 You

00:10:15.880 fucking

00:10:16.420 idiots.

00:10:17.500 You

00:10:17.660 fucking

00:10:18.240 idiots.

00:10:19.300 YouTube.

00:10:20.060 It's like

00:10:20.460 you think

00:10:20.820 that they

00:10:21.180 can't be

00:10:21.740 worse.

00:10:24.300 But let

00:10:25.440 me give

00:10:25.700 you this

00:10:26.040 advice.

00:10:27.020 YouTube.

00:10:28.040 If you

00:10:28.680 decide that

00:10:29.940 this is the

00:10:30.400 way you

00:10:30.640 want to

00:10:30.860 go forward

00:10:31.380 and you've

00:10:31.780 got to

00:10:31.980 send

00:10:32.220 credible

00:10:33.040 people

00:10:33.600 giving

00:10:34.480 their

00:10:34.760 opinions

00:10:35.320 on the

00:10:36.060 most

00:10:36.340 current

00:10:36.920 information,

00:10:38.540 if that's

00:10:39.380 not allowed

00:10:39.940 and you

00:10:40.820 have to

00:10:41.120 retrain

00:10:41.560 them,

00:10:42.200 could you

00:10:42.520 at least

00:10:42.940 not use

00:10:43.460 the most

00:10:43.880 communist

00:10:44.420 word for

00:10:45.080 retraining?

00:10:46.120 I'm going

00:10:46.480 to send

00:10:46.700 you to

00:10:47.020 re-education

00:10:47.800 camp.

00:10:48.460 This is

00:10:48.880 like what

00:10:49.180 happened to

00:10:49.520 Jordan

00:10:49.800 Peterson

00:10:50.200 with that

00:10:50.660 stupid

00:10:51.160 Toronto

00:10:51.760 idiots

00:10:53.240 that said

00:10:54.120 he had

00:10:54.320 to be

00:10:54.520 re-educated

00:10:55.260 and they

00:10:55.900 couldn't

00:10:56.100 figure out

00:10:56.520 how to

00:10:56.740 do it.

00:10:57.420 Nobody was

00:10:58.020 even willing

00:10:58.520 to re-educate

00:10:59.280 him because

00:10:59.680 it was so

00:11:00.140 fucking stupid

00:11:00.880 that nobody

00:11:01.920 even wanted

00:11:02.360 to be in

00:11:02.720 that seat.

00:11:03.920 All right.

00:11:04.420 So here's

00:11:05.040 what I'd

00:11:05.360 like.

00:11:06.380 And Dr.

00:11:07.400 Drew,

00:11:07.640 if you're

00:11:07.840 listening,

00:11:08.240 I hope this

00:11:09.060 isn't too

00:11:09.520 inconvenient.

00:11:10.820 I'd love

00:11:11.260 you to get

00:11:11.640 re-educated

00:11:12.440 and just

00:11:14.140 tell us

00:11:14.600 who it was

00:11:15.980 that re-educated

00:11:16.760 you.

00:11:18.100 And just

00:11:18.340 do a show

00:11:19.360 on that.

00:11:20.120 Just do a

00:11:20.640 show how

00:11:21.020 they wanted

00:11:22.220 to re-educate

00:11:23.000 you so

00:11:23.780 that two

00:11:24.680 doctors

00:11:25.300 can't have

00:11:27.680 a conversation

00:11:28.360 about the

00:11:29.400 newest

00:11:29.620 information

00:11:30.300 on medical

00:11:32.400 stuff.

00:11:33.840 Yeah,

00:11:34.100 let's re-educate

00:11:35.100 us.

00:11:35.720 And then

00:11:36.140 maybe Dr.

00:11:37.040 Drew,

00:11:37.240 you can

00:11:37.460 share it

00:11:38.460 with us.

00:11:39.060 So we'll

00:11:39.420 all get

00:11:40.160 re-educated

00:11:40.760 too.

00:11:41.020 Oh my

00:11:44.240 God.

00:11:46.980 Just be

00:11:47.720 a little

00:11:48.200 less

00:11:48.580 communist,

00:11:49.540 please.

00:11:50.580 Anyway,

00:11:51.240 I hope

00:11:51.780 that works

00:11:52.200 out and

00:11:52.940 is not

00:11:53.440 the

00:11:53.680 what it

00:11:56.980 looks like,

00:11:57.900 but I'm

00:11:58.220 sure it's

00:11:58.560 what it

00:11:58.840 looks like.

00:11:59.520 Meanwhile,

00:12:00.040 according to

00:12:00.500 Unusual

00:12:01.160 Whales,

00:12:01.740 an account

00:12:02.000 on X,

00:12:03.440 Walgreens

00:12:04.000 has decided

00:12:05.720 that its

00:12:08.240 anti-shoplifting

00:12:09.420 strategy

00:12:10.080 didn't work

00:12:10.600 out.

00:12:11.860 So the

00:12:12.200 CEO is

00:12:13.280 explaining that

00:12:13.980 when you

00:12:14.360 lock things

00:12:15.020 up,

00:12:15.820 you don't

00:12:16.220 sell as

00:12:16.700 many of

00:12:17.060 them.

00:12:17.580 Now,

00:12:18.200 I'm sure

00:12:18.640 it helped

00:12:18.940 with the

00:12:19.260 shoplifting,

00:12:20.020 that was

00:12:20.360 the reason,

00:12:21.420 but people

00:12:23.180 don't buy

00:12:24.100 things if

00:12:24.600 they're locked

00:12:25.040 up.

00:12:26.940 Have you

00:12:27.540 ever had

00:12:27.900 that experience?

00:12:29.040 Have you

00:12:29.320 ever gone

00:12:29.680 into a

00:12:30.100 store and

00:12:31.140 you're

00:12:31.320 thinking,

00:12:31.720 you know,

00:12:31.980 I should

00:12:32.280 pick this

00:12:32.780 up and

00:12:33.160 they say

00:12:33.460 it's locked

00:12:33.880 up,

00:12:34.700 you don't

00:12:35.320 know who's

00:12:35.680 working,

00:12:36.260 you don't

00:12:36.560 know how

00:12:36.820 long it

00:12:37.140 would take

00:12:37.460 to get

00:12:37.800 it,

00:12:37.960 and you

00:12:38.080 go,

00:12:38.560 ah,

00:12:39.280 Amazon.

00:12:40.620 Anybody?

00:12:42.300 If I'm

00:12:42.880 in Walgreens

00:12:43.500 and there's

00:12:44.100 something I

00:12:44.480 want and

00:12:44.720 it's locked

00:12:45.060 up,

00:12:45.280 I'm not

00:12:45.540 going to

00:12:45.740 wait.

00:12:46.540 I might

00:12:47.120 pick my

00:12:47.560 phone up

00:12:47.960 out of

00:12:48.200 my pocket,

00:12:49.960 type in

00:12:50.360 the name

00:12:50.640 of that

00:12:50.900 thing,

00:12:51.260 and push

00:12:51.560 a button

00:12:51.900 and walk

00:12:52.260 away,

00:12:52.680 but I'm

00:12:53.060 not going

00:12:53.300 to wait

00:12:53.560 for you

00:12:53.780 to come

00:12:54.100 over.

00:12:55.480 If you

00:12:56.640 can unlock

00:12:57.180 this faster

00:12:57.800 than I can

00:12:58.260 push four

00:12:59.200 buttons on

00:12:59.760 Amazon,

00:13:00.840 yeah,

00:13:01.080 go ahead,

00:13:02.220 but you

00:13:02.560 can't do

00:13:02.900 it faster

00:13:03.300 than I

00:13:03.520 can push

00:13:03.860 four

00:13:04.080 buttons,

00:13:05.380 so Walgreens,

00:13:06.320 that's a good

00:13:06.700 strategy you

00:13:07.280 got there.

00:13:08.340 Now,

00:13:09.460 to their

00:13:09.900 credit,

00:13:11.200 trying something

00:13:12.120 is worth

00:13:13.320 trying,

00:13:14.060 right?

00:13:14.400 So let me

00:13:14.900 give them

00:13:15.180 full credit.

00:13:16.080 If you

00:13:16.580 don't know

00:13:16.920 what to

00:13:17.260 do,

00:13:17.580 but you

00:13:17.840 think,

00:13:18.120 well,

00:13:18.380 maybe we

00:13:18.840 could try

00:13:19.100 locking

00:13:19.500 this stuff

00:13:19.980 up,

00:13:20.940 see what

00:13:21.360 happens,

00:13:22.000 I'm always

00:13:22.520 in favor

00:13:22.900 of people

00:13:23.340 trying stuff

00:13:24.080 and then

00:13:25.340 backing off

00:13:26.100 if it

00:13:26.380 doesn't work,

00:13:27.020 and it

00:13:27.380 looks like

00:13:27.660 that's what's

00:13:28.040 happening.

00:13:29.100 So it

00:13:31.280 turns out

00:13:31.740 that the

00:13:32.040 other part

00:13:32.380 of their

00:13:32.560 strategy is

00:13:33.160 to close

00:13:33.680 450 more

00:13:35.000 stores in

00:13:35.680 2025.

00:13:36.860 This is

00:13:37.420 after closing

00:13:38.500 a number

00:13:38.860 of them

00:13:39.160 already.

00:13:40.720 And what

00:13:42.180 do you

00:13:42.340 think is

00:13:42.740 the criteria

00:13:45.540 for closing

00:13:46.180 stores?

00:13:48.020 Well,

00:13:48.900 they closed

00:13:49.580 the stores

00:13:49.920 that were

00:13:50.240 less profitable,

00:13:51.180 so they

00:13:51.420 picked a

00:13:52.360 profitability

00:13:52.860 number,

00:13:53.560 and they

00:13:53.720 said,

00:13:53.900 all right,

00:13:54.140 all the

00:13:54.420 ones below

00:13:54.860 that were

00:13:55.220 going to

00:13:55.380 close.

00:13:56.160 Where do

00:13:56.580 you think

00:13:56.800 those were?

00:13:57.280 Where do

00:13:58.440 you think

00:13:58.680 all the

00:13:58.980 unprofitable

00:13:59.740 Walgreens

00:14:00.440 were?

00:14:01.180 You want

00:14:01.380 to take

00:14:01.600 a guess?

00:14:03.140 Well,

00:14:03.460 San Francisco

00:14:04.120 had a lot

00:14:04.600 of them.

00:14:05.880 No surprise.

00:14:07.960 Oakland.

00:14:09.240 Oakland.

00:14:09.920 Baltimore.

00:14:11.400 Baltimore.

00:14:12.160 Sacramento.

00:14:13.800 Now,

00:14:14.240 some of

00:14:14.680 them look

00:14:15.000 like maybe

00:14:15.500 they just

00:14:16.020 weren't doing

00:14:17.000 well in

00:14:17.680 general,

00:14:18.400 but a lot

00:14:19.340 of them

00:14:19.580 look like

00:14:20.020 they were

00:14:20.360 in the

00:14:20.620 most diverse

00:14:21.300 markets.

00:14:23.060 So,

00:14:24.200 Walgreen,

00:14:25.020 to its

00:14:25.480 credit,

00:14:25.840 has one of

00:14:26.260 the most

00:14:26.540 robust

00:14:27.060 DEI

00:14:27.740 programs.

00:14:29.640 So,

00:14:29.840 on the

00:14:30.240 plus side,

00:14:31.440 Walgreens

00:14:31.960 DEI is

00:14:33.340 really good.

00:14:34.480 They got a

00:14:35.000 heck of a

00:14:35.400 good DEI

00:14:36.140 program.

00:14:36.640 It's really

00:14:36.920 robust.

00:14:38.300 On the

00:14:38.880 other hand,

00:14:40.380 they're using

00:14:41.000 the,

00:14:41.600 some call it

00:14:42.360 the cartoonist

00:14:43.240 strategy of

00:14:44.640 get the fuck

00:14:45.420 out of the

00:14:45.880 diverse markets

00:14:46.800 because you

00:14:47.360 can't survive

00:14:48.000 there.

00:14:50.200 You know,

00:14:50.820 they call it

00:14:51.320 something else,

00:14:52.060 but it's

00:14:52.340 basically the

00:14:53.220 Scott Adams

00:14:53.800 theory.

00:14:54.080 And it

00:14:56.020 goes well

00:14:56.420 with their

00:14:56.700 DEI program.

00:14:58.200 Good

00:14:58.420 combination.

00:14:59.700 Over at the

00:15:00.220 Wall Street

00:15:00.540 Journal,

00:15:02.000 Colin Borchers

00:15:03.020 is writing

00:15:03.520 about

00:15:04.060 DEI hurting

00:15:05.880 the careers

00:15:06.460 of some

00:15:06.820 people and

00:15:07.920 wondering if

00:15:08.580 the pullback

00:15:10.120 in DEI,

00:15:11.180 they're wondering

00:15:11.580 if the pullback

00:15:12.320 in DEI

00:15:12.900 under Trump

00:15:13.640 might help

00:15:15.300 people get

00:15:15.980 more employment

00:15:17.200 that they

00:15:18.040 might have been

00:15:18.440 discriminated

00:15:19.060 against for.

00:15:19.560 But Colin

00:15:21.880 points out

00:15:22.420 that the

00:15:23.460 Pew Research

00:15:24.000 Center found

00:15:25.420 out that

00:15:26.080 more than

00:15:26.780 a third

00:15:27.240 of Americans

00:15:28.020 believe DEI

00:15:29.740 in the

00:15:30.000 workplace

00:15:30.420 hurts white

00:15:31.200 men.

00:15:31.940 Wow,

00:15:32.240 more than

00:15:32.600 a third.

00:15:34.100 Let's say

00:15:34.540 a third.

00:15:36.400 Wouldn't

00:15:36.720 that be

00:15:37.120 every white

00:15:37.700 man?

00:15:39.520 One third

00:15:40.300 of the

00:15:40.620 public that

00:15:41.240 they would

00:15:41.760 interview about

00:15:42.800 this,

00:15:43.120 of the

00:15:43.560 working

00:15:43.880 public?

00:15:45.580 Isn't

00:15:45.900 one third

00:15:46.400 exactly the

00:15:47.080 number of

00:15:47.440 white people?

00:15:48.320 White men.

00:15:49.560 Isn't it?

00:15:51.360 It's almost

00:15:52.000 exactly the

00:15:52.740 same number.

00:15:54.080 Huh.

00:15:55.180 Surprising.

00:15:56.900 I'm so

00:15:57.540 surprised.

00:15:58.580 And do you

00:15:58.920 know why?

00:15:59.360 It's the

00:15:59.720 white men

00:16:00.160 who know

00:16:00.540 that this

00:16:01.240 is hurting

00:16:01.600 white men,

00:16:02.300 but the

00:16:02.540 others don't

00:16:03.020 seem to

00:16:03.760 act like

00:16:04.360 they know

00:16:04.740 it.

00:16:05.640 Many of

00:16:06.160 them are

00:16:06.400 lying because

00:16:07.980 DEI is good

00:16:08.720 for them and

00:16:09.260 bad for white

00:16:09.800 men, and

00:16:10.260 maybe they

00:16:11.120 don't want

00:16:11.340 to ruin

00:16:11.580 that situation,

00:16:12.680 which would

00:16:13.640 actually be

00:16:14.140 totally reasonable.

00:16:16.120 That's not a

00:16:16.840 criticism.

00:16:18.100 If you're in

00:16:18.800 a situation

00:16:19.360 that favors

00:16:19.980 people like

00:16:20.620 you and

00:16:21.060 disfavors

00:16:21.860 other people,

00:16:23.580 you know,

00:16:23.920 unless you're

00:16:24.280 some kind of

00:16:24.760 weird activist,

00:16:25.660 you're just

00:16:26.040 going to say,

00:16:26.440 well, that's

00:16:27.060 okay, I

00:16:27.560 think that's

00:16:27.940 perfect.

00:16:29.940 But pretty

00:16:30.660 much 100%

00:16:31.400 of white men

00:16:31.940 who have

00:16:32.180 jobs are

00:16:32.780 completely aware

00:16:33.900 that DEI is

00:16:35.040 a disaster

00:16:35.640 for white

00:16:36.440 men.

00:16:38.100 So, just

00:16:39.600 know that.

00:16:40.740 Trust and

00:16:41.180 safety is

00:16:41.700 becoming a

00:16:42.460 key driver of

00:16:43.720 customer experience,

00:16:45.080 influencing how

00:16:45.980 users engage,

00:16:47.100 safe they

00:16:47.960 feel, and

00:16:48.580 ultimately, how

00:16:49.600 likely they are

00:16:50.440 to return.

00:16:51.440 Because, I

00:16:52.060 don't know about

00:16:52.560 you, but if

00:16:53.260 I've had too

00:16:53.860 many bad

00:16:54.400 experiences on

00:16:55.340 a platform, I'm

00:16:56.440 definitely not

00:16:57.380 rushing back for

00:16:58.080 more.

00:16:58.480 This is the

00:16:58.980 intersection we're

00:16:59.980 here to explore

00:17:00.780 today.

00:17:01.240 Pam Bondi was

00:17:11.980 answering questions

00:17:13.800 as part of her

00:17:14.520 nomination process

00:17:16.260 to Attorney

00:17:16.960 General, and

00:17:18.540 she ran into,

00:17:20.500 I watched one

00:17:20.980 clip, I didn't

00:17:21.860 watch the whole

00:17:22.260 thing, but she

00:17:23.600 did great.

00:17:24.660 The clips I

00:17:25.580 saw, I

00:17:27.100 absolutely love

00:17:28.120 how confident

00:17:30.020 and clearly

00:17:31.540 and smartly

00:17:32.800 she was

00:17:33.220 answering

00:17:33.540 questions, and

00:17:35.440 it's worth

00:17:36.780 noting, because

00:17:38.100 Trump says it

00:17:38.860 all the time,

00:17:39.900 that whole,

00:17:41.200 what's he

00:17:41.840 call it,

00:17:42.300 the, basically

00:17:44.160 he likes people

00:17:44.860 who are good

00:17:45.240 on TV.

00:17:46.540 Wow, is she

00:17:47.420 good on TV.

00:17:50.140 Hegseth?

00:17:50.920 How about

00:17:51.320 him?

00:17:52.360 Wow, is he

00:17:53.240 good on TV,

00:17:54.040 obviously.

00:17:55.160 Right?

00:17:55.700 But Bondi?

00:17:57.000 Wow.

00:17:58.120 That's some

00:17:58.880 serious TV

00:18:00.100 skills.

00:18:04.100 But here's, I've

00:18:05.260 got one advice.

00:18:06.560 I've never seen

00:18:07.100 anybody do what

00:18:07.720 I'm going to

00:18:08.060 suggest, so I

00:18:08.640 don't know if

00:18:09.060 it'll work, but I

00:18:10.400 just want to

00:18:10.800 throw it out

00:18:11.240 there, it's a

00:18:11.780 persuasion

00:18:12.260 lesson.

00:18:13.400 So one of the

00:18:14.080 things that

00:18:14.380 happens during

00:18:14.940 these hostile

00:18:16.020 questioning,

00:18:16.920 because, you

00:18:17.220 know, half of

00:18:17.620 the people

00:18:17.900 asking questions

00:18:18.620 with the other

00:18:19.080 team, they

00:18:20.240 like to do

00:18:20.940 the thing

00:18:21.260 where they

00:18:21.540 say, I

00:18:22.240 want a yes

00:18:22.640 or no.

00:18:24.540 Did you

00:18:25.140 kill that

00:18:25.740 squirrel?

00:18:26.220 Well, Senator,

00:18:28.620 yes or no,

00:18:29.140 yes or no.

00:18:30.200 Well, it's

00:18:30.800 complicated.

00:18:32.060 No, yes or

00:18:32.800 no, yes or

00:18:33.300 no, yes or

00:18:33.920 no, yes or

00:18:34.660 no.

00:18:35.200 Well, you see

00:18:35.940 the context,

00:18:36.940 yes or no,

00:18:37.500 yes or no,

00:18:38.000 yes or no.

00:18:38.900 Have you

00:18:39.340 watched those?

00:18:40.540 And the whole

00:18:41.080 thing is to get

00:18:41.760 them to say

00:18:42.280 yes or no,

00:18:43.440 because they

00:18:44.320 know that the

00:18:44.840 yes or the

00:18:45.480 no would be

00:18:46.620 out of context,

00:18:47.640 and then they

00:18:48.120 can attack it

00:18:48.740 and turn it

00:18:49.140 into something.

00:18:50.580 So nobody

00:18:51.340 wants to give

00:18:51.940 the yes or

00:18:52.380 no, because

00:18:52.920 it would be

00:18:53.540 basically career

00:18:55.240 suicide, because

00:18:56.280 then you'd be

00:18:57.140 quoted for it.

00:18:58.240 But, so what

00:18:59.140 Bondi did is,

00:19:01.920 I'm going to

00:19:02.560 call it the

00:19:03.040 best I've seen

00:19:04.200 normies handle

00:19:05.660 the question.

00:19:06.900 So she's a

00:19:07.540 normie as

00:19:08.220 opposed to a,

00:19:09.540 let's say,

00:19:10.000 trained persuader.

00:19:11.280 She's not

00:19:11.940 Trump, right?

00:19:13.520 I'm pretty sure

00:19:14.480 Trump would have

00:19:15.320 handled this

00:19:15.880 differently.

00:19:16.940 And I'm going

00:19:17.580 to tell you how

00:19:18.180 I think he would

00:19:19.080 have handled it,

00:19:20.280 or a version of

00:19:21.860 it.

00:19:22.060 And I'm going

00:19:22.640 to tell you how

00:19:23.240 I would handle

00:19:24.020 it, because I

00:19:24.540 use this technique

00:19:25.460 online all the

00:19:26.180 time.

00:19:28.040 If somebody

00:19:28.720 says, are you

00:19:31.140 still beating

00:19:31.760 your spouse?

00:19:33.620 And you know

00:19:34.300 that yes, yes

00:19:35.240 or no, yes

00:19:35.740 or no, are you

00:19:36.420 still beating

00:19:36.780 your spouse?

00:19:37.700 Yes or no, yes

00:19:38.320 or no?

00:19:38.960 Because either the

00:19:39.620 yes or the no

00:19:40.360 are bad for you,

00:19:41.220 because it sounds

00:19:42.000 like you're still

00:19:42.540 beating your spouse.

00:19:43.560 And what you

00:19:44.200 really want to

00:19:44.760 say is, well,

00:19:45.740 actually, I've

00:19:46.380 never even been

00:19:46.880 accused of beating

00:19:47.700 my spouse.

00:19:48.480 That's not even a

00:19:49.120 question.

00:19:50.580 Don't want to

00:19:51.140 answer it.

00:19:51.460 Oh, yes or no?

00:19:52.200 Yes or no?

00:19:52.880 Yes or no?

00:19:53.660 Yes or no?

00:19:55.500 The Democrats?

00:19:56.980 Here's what you

00:19:57.660 should do instead.

00:19:58.680 Well, first of

00:19:59.220 all, what Pam

00:20:00.120 Bondi did is the

00:20:01.180 best I've seen

00:20:01.880 normal politicians

00:20:03.140 do, which is

00:20:04.800 aggressively talk

00:20:06.160 over the person

00:20:07.900 who's trying to

00:20:09.160 cut you off to

00:20:10.840 make sure that

00:20:11.360 you're pushing

00:20:11.760 back.

00:20:12.740 So she did a

00:20:13.640 real good job of

00:20:15.300 not backing

00:20:15.900 down, pushing

00:20:17.280 back, showing that

00:20:18.600 the question

00:20:19.080 was, you

00:20:19.820 know, unreasonable

00:20:20.480 by her

00:20:21.700 pushback, and

00:20:23.100 showing that he

00:20:23.780 was just a

00:20:24.440 ridiculous turd

00:20:25.540 and she was

00:20:26.260 just trying to

00:20:26.820 answer serious

00:20:27.460 questions.

00:20:28.320 Now, so if I

00:20:29.420 were to grade her

00:20:30.200 performance according

00:20:32.360 to normal people,

00:20:34.680 A plus.

00:20:36.080 Yeah, for a

00:20:36.800 normal person and

00:20:37.820 a normal politician,

00:20:38.880 that's about as

00:20:39.380 good as you can

00:20:39.880 do.

00:20:40.720 But you know

00:20:41.760 what it's not?

00:20:43.180 It's not only

00:20:44.040 Rosie O'Donnell.

00:20:46.440 That's what

00:20:46.960 Trump did.

00:20:48.060 When Trump got

00:20:48.740 his question that

00:20:50.380 was only going to

00:20:51.060 be good or bad,

00:20:51.980 only going to be

00:20:52.740 bad, it didn't

00:20:53.480 matter what he

00:20:53.920 said, it was just

00:20:54.520 going to be bad

00:20:54.980 for him, it would

00:20:55.560 be the quote of

00:20:56.520 the day.

00:20:57.480 Instead of going

00:20:58.420 with their frame,

00:20:59.540 he left the

00:21:00.080 frame.

00:21:01.660 Pam Bondi stayed

00:21:02.620 in the frame.

00:21:04.500 That question is

00:21:06.220 the question and

00:21:07.040 she's trying to

00:21:08.240 respond, but she

00:21:09.060 wants to give a

00:21:09.560 longer answer,

00:21:10.300 you're not letting

00:21:10.780 me.

00:21:11.020 That would be

00:21:11.920 the traditional

00:21:12.600 staying in the

00:21:13.620 frame.

00:21:15.020 Trump leaves the

00:21:15.840 frame, and that

00:21:17.320 works every time.

00:21:18.620 Let me tell you

00:21:19.220 how I would leave

00:21:20.000 the frame if I

00:21:21.500 were in their

00:21:21.900 position and

00:21:23.140 somebody gave me

00:21:23.780 that yes or no,

00:21:24.700 yes or no,

00:21:25.140 yes or no question.

00:21:26.720 I would say,

00:21:28.140 Senator, could you

00:21:29.040 ask a better

00:21:29.600 question?

00:21:31.940 Oh, I'm asking

00:21:32.800 this question.

00:21:33.520 I'm asking this

00:21:34.040 question.

00:21:34.340 Yes or no.

00:21:34.920 Yeah, I heard

00:21:35.520 the question.

00:21:35.960 Could you ask a

00:21:36.680 better one?

00:21:38.380 Oh, yes or no.

00:21:39.200 Yes or no.

00:21:39.740 Yes or no.

00:21:40.240 Oh, yes or no.

00:21:41.020 I hear you,

00:21:42.860 Senator.

00:21:43.100 I'm just asking

00:21:43.800 because everybody's

00:21:45.380 dedicated their time

00:21:46.880 to this.

00:21:48.000 I just wondered if

00:21:48.880 you have a better

00:21:49.380 question.

00:21:50.540 And then you use

00:21:51.140 up all of his

00:21:51.860 time.

00:21:53.000 You use up all

00:21:53.960 of his time.

00:21:55.040 You turn him into

00:21:55.800 the guy where the

00:21:57.780 quote is, can you

00:21:59.060 ask a better

00:21:59.560 question?

00:22:00.660 Because here's why

00:22:01.880 this works.

00:22:03.200 Everybody listening

00:22:04.300 to the exchange

00:22:05.180 knows that the

00:22:05.840 question is the

00:22:06.680 flawed part.

00:22:07.440 everybody knows

00:22:08.920 it.

00:22:09.780 Why doesn't

00:22:10.460 anybody call

00:22:11.100 it out?

00:22:12.140 And why doesn't

00:22:12.900 anybody demand

00:22:13.700 that if you're

00:22:15.140 going to put your

00:22:15.600 time into this

00:22:16.360 process, you're

00:22:17.480 going to need

00:22:17.680 better questions.

00:22:19.400 A better question

00:22:20.120 is a high ground.

00:22:21.280 It just says you're

00:22:21.880 not capable of

00:22:23.120 being here.

00:22:24.280 But if you can

00:22:24.840 step up, I'd

00:22:25.580 be happy to ask

00:22:26.500 you a question.

00:22:28.380 That's a kill

00:22:29.020 shot.

00:22:30.320 Now, not everybody

00:22:31.160 could pull that

00:22:31.720 off, but that

00:22:32.320 would be, roughly

00:22:33.780 speaking, that

00:22:35.080 would be a

00:22:35.420 Trump way to

00:22:36.420 do it.

00:22:37.020 Here's what I

00:22:37.620 think Trump

00:22:38.120 would say.

00:22:40.340 First of all, he's

00:22:41.060 not going to get

00:22:41.540 a question like

00:22:42.140 this ever, now

00:22:43.100 that he's

00:22:43.320 president.

00:22:44.040 But if he did, I

00:22:45.060 think he'd say

00:22:45.500 something like,

00:22:46.560 you know, this

00:22:47.240 is an example

00:22:47.900 why you're

00:22:48.940 useless.

00:22:51.940 We all came

00:22:52.640 here today, and

00:22:53.460 that's the best

00:22:54.320 you could do?

00:22:55.460 That is your

00:22:56.740 best performance

00:22:57.520 in asking a

00:22:58.240 question that the

00:22:58.900 public is

00:22:59.360 interested in?

00:23:00.500 So I think he

00:23:01.300 would just break

00:23:01.980 the frame.

00:23:02.380 You've got to

00:23:03.700 go after his

00:23:04.700 technique, not

00:23:05.660 answer anything

00:23:06.540 about the

00:23:06.920 question.

00:23:08.760 Well, Joy

00:23:10.300 Reid brought

00:23:11.420 on a Democrat

00:23:12.280 that apparently

00:23:14.140 ran against

00:23:15.140 Bondi and

00:23:16.520 lost.

00:23:17.920 So, man, if

00:23:18.920 you're going to

00:23:19.180 bring somebody

00:23:19.720 on to say some

00:23:20.400 bad things about

00:23:21.360 somebody, what

00:23:23.200 you want is

00:23:24.120 somebody who

00:23:24.520 was on the

00:23:24.860 other team, a

00:23:25.560 Democrat, and

00:23:27.140 ran against

00:23:27.920 her and lost.

00:23:30.680 Right?

00:23:31.260 Because that guy's

00:23:32.280 going to come

00:23:33.380 with some

00:23:33.760 fire, right?

00:23:35.540 Well, that

00:23:36.100 didn't work

00:23:36.480 out.

00:23:37.880 It turns out

00:23:38.420 that after he

00:23:39.060 lost to her

00:23:39.860 in the race,

00:23:41.200 she hired

00:23:41.820 him.

00:23:44.420 She hired

00:23:45.360 him.

00:23:47.140 In other

00:23:47.820 words, she

00:23:49.500 hired him

00:23:50.400 because he

00:23:50.900 was good at

00:23:51.380 his job, and

00:23:52.080 she didn't

00:23:52.440 care that he

00:23:52.880 was a

00:23:53.180 Democrat

00:23:53.500 because she

00:23:54.100 was about

00:23:54.500 getting the

00:23:54.940 best job.

00:23:55.480 and then

00:23:57.920 to prove

00:23:59.040 that she

00:23:59.460 hired the

00:24:00.000 right guy

00:24:00.560 and that

00:24:02.020 it was

00:24:02.420 about his

00:24:02.820 qualifications

00:24:03.560 and it

00:24:04.040 was not

00:24:04.420 about

00:24:04.760 Democrat

00:24:05.540 or

00:24:05.720 Republican,

00:24:07.100 he basically

00:24:08.160 proves it

00:24:08.760 right by

00:24:09.840 saying that

00:24:10.580 she's very

00:24:12.820 tethered to

00:24:13.400 the law.

00:24:14.120 She's not

00:24:14.640 obsessed with

00:24:15.660 Democrat or

00:24:16.400 Republican.

00:24:17.140 She cares

00:24:17.540 about the

00:24:17.980 law.

00:24:18.340 She's really

00:24:18.740 good at it.

00:24:19.520 He used the

00:24:19.940 phrase tethered

00:24:20.700 to the law,

00:24:21.300 like she's

00:24:21.660 never going to

00:24:22.020 leave law

00:24:23.080 and that

00:24:23.940 she would

00:24:24.280 not do

00:24:24.740 any law

00:24:25.200 fair because

00:24:25.860 there's just

00:24:26.260 no way.

00:24:26.900 That's just

00:24:27.260 not her.

00:24:28.440 And then

00:24:28.740 it got

00:24:29.080 better because

00:24:30.820 Reid said,

00:24:31.720 what about

00:24:32.140 the enemies

00:24:32.580 list?

00:24:32.960 She lied

00:24:33.700 when she

00:24:34.380 said there's

00:24:34.820 no enemies

00:24:35.300 list.

00:24:36.960 Now,

00:24:37.440 MSNBC,

00:24:39.520 Joy Reid,

00:24:41.280 talking to

00:24:41.820 a Democrat

00:24:42.380 who lost

00:24:43.900 to Pam

00:24:44.680 Bondi,

00:24:45.920 and then

00:24:46.240 she comes

00:24:46.580 up with

00:24:46.900 this damning

00:24:48.220 thing where

00:24:48.800 she said

00:24:49.620 there's no

00:24:50.380 enemies list.

00:24:52.020 What did

00:24:52.720 the Democrat

00:24:53.540 who was

00:24:55.000 supposed to

00:24:55.440 say bad

00:24:55.880 things about

00:24:56.440 Bondi respond

00:24:57.220 to that

00:24:57.780 with?

00:24:58.520 He said,

00:24:59.100 well,

00:24:59.400 actually,

00:24:59.860 she said

00:25:00.500 that there's

00:25:02.480 no enemies

00:25:03.080 list in

00:25:04.520 the Department

00:25:05.240 of Justice.

00:25:08.240 Basically,

00:25:09.100 he just

00:25:09.960 defended her

00:25:10.660 answer.

00:25:11.720 He defended

00:25:12.600 her character,

00:25:13.780 he defended

00:25:14.360 her answer,

00:25:15.500 and he

00:25:15.740 defended her

00:25:17.200 skills,

00:25:17.960 and that's

00:25:18.620 it.

00:25:19.560 It was a

00:25:20.260 complete flop

00:25:21.320 because it

00:25:22.820 turns out

00:25:23.380 that Pam

00:25:24.360 Bondi hired

00:25:25.100 the right

00:25:25.440 guy,

00:25:26.780 and when

00:25:27.260 he got

00:25:28.520 to,

00:25:29.000 I'm going

00:25:29.320 to say

00:25:29.540 reciprocity,

00:25:31.020 right?

00:25:32.120 I always

00:25:32.800 tell you,

00:25:33.180 reciprocity is

00:25:33.960 a big deal.

00:25:35.180 So she

00:25:35.680 hired this

00:25:36.160 guy because

00:25:36.660 she thought

00:25:37.140 he had

00:25:37.380 the skill.

00:25:38.520 He does,

00:25:40.040 and he

00:25:40.480 paid back.

00:25:44.020 I hear

00:25:44.600 Trump,

00:25:45.380 according to

00:25:45.740 the New York

00:25:46.280 Post,

00:25:46.640 Trump is

00:25:47.600 supporting

00:25:48.020 Vivek

00:25:48.580 Ramaswamy

00:25:49.100 to take

00:25:50.140 over J.D.

00:25:50.760 Vance's

00:25:51.340 Ohio Senate

00:25:52.200 seat.

00:25:52.660 Now,

00:25:52.840 he'd have

00:25:53.200 to be

00:25:53.640 picked by

00:25:54.760 the governor,

00:25:55.320 so we

00:25:55.560 don't know

00:25:55.880 if he even

00:25:56.520 would.

00:25:58.400 But I

00:25:59.040 think that's

00:26:00.100 just an

00:26:01.480 expression that

00:26:02.720 Trump has a

00:26:03.540 lot of

00:26:03.960 trust in

00:26:05.200 Vivek.

00:26:05.660 I don't

00:26:06.100 think that's

00:26:06.680 where he

00:26:07.120 would want

00:26:07.520 to go

00:26:07.980 right away,

00:26:09.320 and I

00:26:10.100 hope he's

00:26:10.560 not,

00:26:11.500 because I

00:26:12.480 really,

00:26:13.080 really think

00:26:13.580 that the

00:26:13.960 Doge

00:26:14.300 thing is,

00:26:15.980 on a scale

00:26:17.040 of 1 to

00:26:17.460 10,

00:26:18.980 getting another

00:26:19.920 strong senator

00:26:21.200 is a 4.

00:26:24.760 On a scale

00:26:25.240 of 1 to

00:26:25.580 10,

00:26:25.960 it's good.

00:26:27.240 I want

00:26:28.060 another really

00:26:28.600 strong senator.

00:26:29.700 That'd be

00:26:30.020 great.

00:26:31.400 But Doge

00:26:32.460 is a 10,

00:26:33.580 or a 12,

00:26:35.180 on the risk

00:26:36.140 of 1 to

00:26:36.580 10.

00:26:37.700 And Vivek

00:26:38.660 is a 12

00:26:40.200 and a 10.

00:26:41.740 So if you

00:26:42.360 could pair

00:26:42.820 one of the

00:26:43.500 most capable,

00:26:44.840 smartest,

00:26:45.860 energetic

00:26:46.320 people who

00:26:47.700 have all

00:26:48.120 the right

00:26:48.460 incentives to

00:26:49.600 work on the

00:26:50.040 hardest problem

00:26:50.800 that needs

00:26:51.220 exactly that,

00:26:53.200 I wouldn't

00:26:53.620 waste him

00:26:54.020 on the

00:26:54.280 Senate.

00:26:55.600 Because if

00:26:56.260 he brings

00:26:57.060 Doge home,

00:26:57.780 he can have

00:26:58.160 any job he

00:26:58.720 wants.

00:27:00.000 So,

00:27:00.940 I don't know.

00:27:01.800 I hope he

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00:28:05.760 Venezuelan dictator

00:28:06.680 Maduro,

00:28:08.320 according to

00:28:08.860 Blaze Media,

00:28:10.220 he's threatened

00:28:10.780 to invade

00:28:12.260 Puerto Rico.

00:28:14.280 He said,

00:28:15.420 that's what

00:28:16.900 Maduro said,

00:28:17.800 the freedom of

00:28:18.420 Puerto Rico is

00:28:19.140 pending,

00:28:19.940 and we will

00:28:20.600 achieve it with

00:28:21.300 Brazilian troops.

00:28:23.700 He's the dictator

00:28:24.700 of Venezuela,

00:28:26.400 but he's going to

00:28:27.700 free Puerto Rico

00:28:28.500 with Brazilian troops

00:28:30.700 to make sure they

00:28:32.940 stop being colonized.

00:28:34.260 Venezuela,

00:28:36.860 Brazilian troops

00:28:37.860 prevent them

00:28:39.260 from being colonized.

00:28:41.220 Okay,

00:28:41.540 well,

00:28:41.720 I'm not sure

00:28:42.120 how that all

00:28:42.640 fits together,

00:28:43.940 but I have an

00:28:46.400 update also on

00:28:47.520 Maduro's

00:28:48.700 life expectancy

00:28:49.560 after threatening

00:28:51.360 to invade

00:28:52.100 a United States

00:28:53.800 territory.

00:28:55.660 Life expectancy

00:28:56.780 January 21st.

00:28:59.460 January 21st.

00:29:02.440 Meanwhile,

00:29:03.240 John Fetterman

00:29:03.880 said after

00:29:04.520 talking to

00:29:05.160 Trump and

00:29:05.680 Mar-a-Lago

00:29:06.160 that he's

00:29:08.740 all in on

00:29:09.360 Trump acquiring

00:29:11.740 Greenland.

00:29:13.660 So Fetterman,

00:29:14.720 he's all in on

00:29:15.680 Greenland.

00:29:17.380 Now,

00:29:18.480 I know what

00:29:19.860 many of you

00:29:20.420 have warned me.

00:29:21.440 Watch out for

00:29:22.100 that Fetterman.

00:29:23.320 He's a snake.

00:29:24.480 He's just saying

00:29:25.100 things to get

00:29:26.000 support,

00:29:26.700 but really he's

00:29:27.340 a radical dem

00:29:28.300 or whatever he is.

00:29:29.620 And I understand

00:29:30.480 that.

00:29:30.780 And I understand

00:29:31.560 the argument

00:29:32.480 about not

00:29:33.040 giving any

00:29:33.620 oxygen to

00:29:34.460 the team

00:29:35.760 that's overall

00:29:37.060 evil.

00:29:38.100 I get that.

00:29:40.000 But you do

00:29:41.140 have to make

00:29:42.680 it possible

00:29:43.380 that people

00:29:44.860 can change

00:29:45.420 sides and

00:29:46.620 that they can

00:29:47.020 do it with

00:29:47.420 honor and

00:29:48.060 respect.

00:29:48.360 respect.

00:29:49.380 So I

00:29:50.620 tend to

00:29:51.720 prefer to

00:29:53.160 err on

00:29:54.700 giving them

00:29:55.260 credit for

00:29:56.100 any change

00:29:56.780 in your

00:29:57.060 direction.

00:29:58.080 Because

00:29:58.640 incentives

00:29:59.100 matter.

00:29:59.900 So if you

00:30:00.260 reward somebody

00:30:01.580 for moving

00:30:02.180 one step

00:30:02.760 toward you,

00:30:04.300 maybe someday

00:30:05.060 you get another

00:30:05.520 step.

00:30:06.420 You know,

00:30:06.620 incentives

00:30:07.000 matter.

00:30:08.260 So while I

00:30:09.040 completely get

00:30:10.140 that in some

00:30:11.200 cases it's

00:30:11.860 better not to

00:30:12.580 give the bad

00:30:13.700 team any

00:30:14.280 credit

00:30:14.580 whatsoever,

00:30:15.840 I think

00:30:16.360 Fetterman is

00:30:16.880 one of the

00:30:17.380 exceptions.

00:30:18.000 And I think

00:30:18.360 Trump noticed

00:30:19.160 it too because

00:30:19.900 Trump gave

00:30:20.380 him essentially

00:30:21.500 a glowing

00:30:22.040 endorsement for

00:30:22.820 his intelligence

00:30:23.640 and I think

00:30:25.580 Trump loves

00:30:26.200 the uniqueness

00:30:27.920 with which he

00:30:28.840 dresses.

00:30:30.360 Not that he

00:30:31.100 likes his

00:30:31.500 style, but if

00:30:33.380 you see

00:30:33.700 Fetterman

00:30:34.220 standing out

00:30:35.840 because of

00:30:37.300 his dress,

00:30:38.280 I think Trump

00:30:38.920 would appreciate

00:30:39.640 how much that

00:30:40.940 makes him

00:30:41.320 different and

00:30:41.880 how much it

00:30:42.280 brings attention

00:30:42.840 to him.

00:30:44.000 So I feel

00:30:44.800 like it

00:30:45.780 completely

00:30:46.440 to me

00:30:47.700 it's

00:30:47.940 completely

00:30:48.420 understandable

00:30:49.060 that they

00:30:49.500 could get

00:30:49.780 along

00:30:50.160 productively.

00:30:51.960 Meanwhile,

00:30:52.600 IFL Science

00:30:53.320 is talking

00:30:54.000 about how

00:30:54.340 many resources

00:30:55.720 Greenland has

00:30:56.700 and why

00:30:57.540 the United

00:30:58.000 States might

00:30:58.440 be interested.

00:30:59.300 I guess

00:30:59.600 they have

00:30:59.960 25 or

00:31:00.740 34 minerals

00:31:02.400 that would

00:31:02.980 be considered

00:31:03.800 critical raw

00:31:04.900 materials.

00:31:05.700 It's got

00:31:06.020 stuff like

00:31:06.400 gold and

00:31:06.900 silver that

00:31:07.720 you need

00:31:08.260 for tech,

00:31:08.860 not just

00:31:09.300 collecting,

00:31:10.620 and stuff

00:31:12.640 that you need

00:31:13.060 for battery

00:31:13.460 technology like

00:31:14.280 cobalt and

00:31:15.140 copper and

00:31:15.600 nickel and

00:31:15.980 lithium.

00:31:16.900 And it's

00:31:17.620 long been

00:31:18.600 predicted that

00:31:19.280 they had

00:31:19.700 oil, but

00:31:22.320 companies have

00:31:22.860 been looking

00:31:23.240 for it for

00:31:24.080 a long time

00:31:24.760 and finally

00:31:25.440 Greenland just

00:31:26.120 said, ah,

00:31:26.600 give up.

00:31:27.780 So they're

00:31:28.520 speculated that

00:31:29.420 there's substantial

00:31:30.980 oil, but

00:31:31.580 nobody's found it

00:31:32.880 yet.

00:31:33.720 Could we?

00:31:34.320 Could the United

00:31:34.800 States find it?

00:31:35.460 I don't know,

00:31:36.060 maybe.

00:31:37.620 So it does,

00:31:39.080 starting to feel

00:31:40.000 like something's

00:31:40.800 going to happen.

00:31:41.340 I don't think

00:31:41.720 there's going to

00:31:42.020 be a state or

00:31:42.900 anything, but I

00:31:44.200 feel like some

00:31:44.680 kind of strategic

00:31:45.840 partnership is

00:31:46.620 coming.

00:31:47.940 So Biden did

00:31:48.680 his farewell

00:31:49.300 address.

00:31:50.360 I couldn't

00:31:50.800 even watch it

00:31:51.540 because, you

00:31:53.000 know, what am I

00:31:53.400 really watching?

00:31:55.000 If he were a

00:31:55.900 real president

00:31:56.480 with a real

00:31:57.060 brain and he

00:31:58.740 has some

00:31:59.240 good goodbye

00:32:00.100 address, I'd be

00:32:00.920 like, oh, yeah,

00:32:01.860 maybe I'll watch

00:32:02.540 that.

00:32:02.860 And I feel

00:32:05.560 like Biden

00:32:06.500 barely exists.

00:32:07.980 They're giving

00:32:08.620 him any attention

00:32:09.360 at this point.

00:32:10.400 Seems like a

00:32:11.020 waste of time.

00:32:11.640 Like, what's

00:32:12.360 the upside of

00:32:13.140 that?

00:32:14.320 So he

00:32:15.000 babbled through

00:32:15.620 his speech.

00:32:16.240 It was recorded,

00:32:17.100 of course, because

00:32:17.620 he couldn't do

00:32:18.100 it live.

00:32:19.040 And he babbled

00:32:20.100 about the risk

00:32:21.000 of the tech

00:32:21.640 billionaires because

00:32:22.640 apparently their

00:32:23.780 billionaires are

00:32:24.440 not in tech.

00:32:26.360 So when they

00:32:27.220 controlled the

00:32:27.820 tech billionaires,

00:32:29.100 like Zuckerberg,

00:32:30.540 then the

00:32:31.060 billionaires were

00:32:31.700 no risk

00:32:32.160 whatsoever.

00:32:33.160 But as soon

00:32:33.880 as the tech

00:32:34.320 billionaires started

00:32:35.200 saying, not

00:32:36.340 just that, you

00:32:37.540 know, they

00:32:38.040 thought Trump

00:32:38.520 was okay, but

00:32:40.020 rather that they

00:32:40.780 were just going

00:32:41.220 to think

00:32:41.560 independently and

00:32:42.360 not take the

00:32:43.060 brainwashing from

00:32:43.900 the media, that

00:32:45.520 that was a

00:32:45.940 problem, that

00:32:47.480 they're no

00:32:47.920 longer brainwashed

00:32:48.940 by the fine

00:32:50.540 people hoax

00:32:51.060 primarily.

00:32:53.100 So, Biden, you

00:32:54.340 are as useless

00:32:54.940 as you've ever

00:32:56.100 been.

00:32:56.700 He's leaving

00:32:57.240 office as

00:32:58.140 Trump's popularity

00:32:59.020 reached the

00:32:59.640 highest it's

00:33:00.180 ever been.

00:33:01.340 So Biden was

00:33:02.140 at his lowest

00:33:02.820 popularity, while

00:33:03.760 Trump's at his

00:33:04.460 highest.

00:33:06.780 That's what I

00:33:07.520 call a good

00:33:08.040 day.

00:33:09.180 If you're

00:33:09.880 Trump, how

00:33:10.840 much would

00:33:11.280 you love

00:33:11.780 that the guy

00:33:13.000 you replaced

00:33:13.560 is at his

00:33:14.100 lowest approval

00:33:15.340 while you're

00:33:15.840 at your

00:33:16.100 highest?

00:33:17.300 That's just a

00:33:17.940 good week.

00:33:20.240 Meanwhile, Joe

00:33:21.380 Scarborough over

00:33:22.280 at MSNBC, he

00:33:26.180 wanted to defend

00:33:27.540 his prior opinion

00:33:28.820 about Joe Biden

00:33:30.540 being completely

00:33:31.400 mentally sharp,

00:33:33.240 you know, the

00:33:33.620 thing he's been

00:33:34.180 mocked for the

00:33:34.900 most.

00:33:35.260 and he doubled

00:33:36.460 down.

00:33:37.400 Oh, yes, I

00:33:38.260 spent three and

00:33:39.660 a half hours, or

00:33:40.400 no, two and a

00:33:40.820 half hours to

00:33:42.200 three hours with

00:33:43.100 Joe Biden.

00:33:43.780 Yeah, and we're

00:33:44.420 talking in depth

00:33:45.120 about foreign

00:33:45.920 policy matters, and

00:33:47.080 he was sharp as

00:33:48.280 anyone I've spoken

00:33:49.100 to, and he's

00:33:49.760 spoken like a man

00:33:50.600 who's been doing

00:33:51.160 this since he was

00:33:51.880 29.

00:33:55.860 Have I mentioned

00:33:56.680 that the audience

00:33:58.340 for Morning Joe

00:33:59.160 tunes in to get

00:34:00.660 his insight?

00:34:01.180 They tune in to

00:34:04.280 get his insight

00:34:05.000 because he has

00:34:05.760 access behind the

00:34:06.720 scenes, and, you

00:34:07.540 know, he knows

00:34:07.900 people we don't, and

00:34:08.760 he's been in the

00:34:09.360 business a long

00:34:09.980 time, so he would

00:34:10.600 have insights.

00:34:12.360 One of his

00:34:13.000 insights was that

00:34:14.020 Biden's brain is

00:34:14.960 just fine.

00:34:16.600 Now, if you were

00:34:17.700 watching somebody for

00:34:18.680 their insights, and

00:34:20.920 it was the only

00:34:21.420 person in the world

00:34:22.100 that couldn't tell

00:34:22.680 that Biden's brain

00:34:23.380 was fried, would

00:34:25.560 you tune in again

00:34:26.320 for the next

00:34:27.000 insight?

00:34:28.640 Would you trust

00:34:29.260 that next insight?

00:34:31.180 All right.

00:34:33.620 According to the

00:34:34.380 Hill, Rachel

00:34:35.900 Frazen, I don't

00:34:37.740 know, Canada

00:34:39.040 wants to get into

00:34:40.540 some kind of

00:34:41.280 mineral partnership

00:34:42.620 with the U.S.

00:34:43.940 Now, the context

00:34:45.040 is Trump saying,

00:34:47.140 hey, maybe we'll

00:34:47.920 make you a state,

00:34:49.320 and we're going

00:34:50.420 to tear a few

00:34:51.120 like crazy, unless,

00:34:52.780 you know, unless

00:34:53.360 you want it to be

00:34:53.840 a state, but if

00:34:55.860 you're going to be

00:34:56.540 sort of a trade

00:34:59.080 nemesis in any

00:35:00.400 way, then you

00:35:01.180 well, maybe we'll

00:35:02.100 tear a few until

00:35:02.920 you change your

00:35:03.540 mind.

00:35:05.240 So what happens

00:35:06.420 under that

00:35:07.020 context?

00:35:07.860 It's something

00:35:08.560 called the

00:35:09.320 Trump effect.

00:35:10.780 I think you've

00:35:11.640 heard of it.

00:35:13.200 And here's what

00:35:14.480 Canada is putting

00:35:15.580 together.

00:35:16.720 So they're

00:35:19.740 coming up with a

00:35:20.340 plan, I guess

00:35:21.420 it's the resource

00:35:22.540 minister, coming

00:35:24.320 up with a plan to

00:35:25.500 work with the

00:35:26.340 United States on

00:35:28.380 partnerships for

00:35:29.640 energy and minerals.

00:35:31.380 So Canada would

00:35:32.680 still be Canada

00:35:33.480 under this plan,

00:35:34.600 but we would,

00:35:35.640 the United States

00:35:36.280 would be adding

00:35:37.420 whatever we add to

00:35:38.440 the mining and

00:35:39.860 mineral exploration

00:35:40.800 and be some kind of

00:35:41.800 sharing, I guess.

00:35:43.220 And it would

00:35:44.100 involve Canada,

00:35:45.520 quote, accelerating

00:35:46.420 the production of

00:35:48.260 things like gallium

00:35:49.180 and germanium,

00:35:50.280 which have defense

00:35:51.300 applications, et cetera.

00:35:52.340 America, and the

00:35:54.080 partnership could

00:35:54.920 extend to oil and

00:35:56.440 nuclear energy.

00:35:58.020 And you say,

00:35:58.640 nuclear energy?

00:36:00.520 Why do we need

00:36:01.400 Canada for that?

00:36:02.200 Well, it turns out

00:36:03.340 that Canada is one

00:36:06.180 of the sources of

00:36:06.820 uranium.

00:36:07.980 So they're one of

00:36:08.860 the world's sources

00:36:09.500 for uranium.

00:36:11.040 And that maybe they

00:36:12.400 would do the

00:36:13.180 uranium, they'd

00:36:15.340 provide the uranium,

00:36:16.340 we'd do the

00:36:16.780 enrichment in the

00:36:17.880 United States, and

00:36:19.180 everybody wins.

00:36:19.880 Now, do you

00:36:21.940 think that Canada

00:36:23.280 would be, you

00:36:24.860 know, queuing up

00:36:25.880 this big trade

00:36:27.600 partnership deal

00:36:28.700 if Trump hadn't

00:36:30.880 said, my first

00:36:32.240 offer is to make

00:36:33.180 you a state?

00:36:36.160 Well, you can't

00:36:37.700 do that.

00:36:39.300 Well, how about I

00:36:40.220 just tariff you

00:36:41.000 instead?

00:36:42.000 Wait, wait, wait,

00:36:42.500 wait, you can't

00:36:42.960 do that?

00:36:44.220 You can't tariff

00:36:44.840 us to death?

00:36:46.420 Well, we can make

00:36:47.320 you a state, then

00:36:48.820 there would be no

00:36:49.280 tariff.

00:36:49.880 No, no, no, no,

00:36:50.640 you can't make

00:36:51.000 us a state.

00:36:54.720 So what do you

00:36:56.160 do?

00:36:57.160 You get your

00:36:57.660 smartest people

00:36:58.360 together and say,

00:36:59.080 is there anything

00:36:59.700 we can offer that

00:37:01.360 short of us

00:37:02.000 becoming a state

00:37:03.020 and short of us

00:37:04.180 getting tariff to

00:37:05.300 death, is there

00:37:06.500 anything we can

00:37:07.300 offer that would

00:37:08.720 look like, oh,

00:37:09.780 the United States

00:37:10.460 is getting what it

00:37:11.160 wants, Canada is

00:37:12.400 getting what it

00:37:12.880 wants?

00:37:13.440 So this is that.

00:37:15.080 This is them

00:37:15.940 essentially, they're

00:37:18.500 essentially negotiating

00:37:19.500 against themselves.

00:37:21.780 So Trump

00:37:22.520 basically just

00:37:23.280 created a frame

00:37:24.160 that, you know,

00:37:25.500 you guys aren't

00:37:26.120 stepping up to

00:37:27.000 what we expect

00:37:27.940 from our neighbor

00:37:28.560 from the north

00:37:29.240 and, you know,

00:37:29.820 maybe we should

00:37:30.320 just absorb you.

00:37:31.840 And so they're

00:37:32.600 trying to step up

00:37:33.440 in a way that

00:37:33.880 would be very,

00:37:34.560 very dear to

00:37:36.120 Trump's, you know,

00:37:37.000 central motivations,

00:37:38.560 which is, you know,

00:37:39.840 minerals and oil

00:37:41.320 and making sure

00:37:42.120 the United States

00:37:42.820 has a strong

00:37:43.500 position,

00:37:44.380 doesn't have to

00:37:45.280 depend on China.

00:37:46.820 So that seems

00:37:48.440 like the Trump

00:37:48.980 effect.

00:37:50.280 Meanwhile, the

00:37:51.240 Hamas hostage

00:37:52.060 deal that we

00:37:52.880 thought was going

00:37:53.760 to happen,

00:37:54.860 looks like

00:37:55.300 Netanyahu

00:37:55.840 is pulling

00:37:58.680 back on that.

00:37:59.840 We don't know

00:38:00.460 if that's temporary

00:38:01.100 or not,

00:38:01.960 but he is doing

00:38:03.000 some more war

00:38:04.500 fighting and

00:38:06.660 says that Hamas

00:38:07.460 isn't doing their

00:38:08.100 end.

00:38:08.420 I don't know

00:38:08.680 what that is.

00:38:09.840 But so Biden

00:38:11.300 and Trump both

00:38:12.160 trying to take

00:38:12.840 credit for the

00:38:14.180 release of what

00:38:15.220 would be one

00:38:16.280 third of the

00:38:16.960 hostages,

00:38:17.620 including some

00:38:18.420 dead bodies,

00:38:19.120 I guess.

00:38:20.240 And so they're

00:38:21.340 both fighting for

00:38:22.080 credit and I'm

00:38:23.660 not on board.

00:38:24.860 I'm just not on

00:38:25.700 board with that.

00:38:27.140 I'm not happy

00:38:28.080 with getting one

00:38:28.820 third of the

00:38:29.240 people back.

00:38:30.840 Now, if you got

00:38:32.080 one third of the

00:38:32.760 people back and you

00:38:33.600 can't even keep

00:38:34.200 that deal,

00:38:34.660 that's a failure.

00:38:35.860 That's a complete

00:38:36.720 failure.

00:38:37.360 That's a complete

00:38:38.200 failure of Biden.

00:38:39.520 It's a complete

00:38:40.080 failure of Netanyahu.

00:38:41.680 Although Netanyahu

00:38:42.640 has, you know,

00:38:43.640 larger goals,

00:38:45.340 so maybe he's

00:38:45.840 not failing.

00:38:48.500 And I don't

00:38:49.880 think Trump

00:38:50.280 succeeded because,

00:38:53.080 you know,

00:38:53.720 Trump will take

00:38:54.380 credit for getting

00:38:55.140 one third home.

00:38:56.600 Politically,

00:38:57.040 that makes sense

00:38:57.660 to take credit

00:38:58.260 for it.

00:38:58.980 And of course,

00:38:59.780 Biden will take

00:39:00.340 credit if he gets

00:39:01.040 one third home.

00:39:02.220 I'm not even a

00:39:03.660 little bit happy

00:39:04.280 with one third,

00:39:05.200 except for the

00:39:05.840 families.

00:39:06.760 Obviously,

00:39:07.200 for the one third

00:39:08.780 that might be

00:39:09.320 released and their

00:39:10.100 families, yes.

00:39:11.580 Yes, we want

00:39:12.960 all that.

00:39:13.700 So I want them

00:39:14.300 to be released.

00:39:16.220 And I'd like to

00:39:17.060 see this deal

00:39:17.580 completed.

00:39:18.840 But I'm not

00:39:19.600 going to call

00:39:19.900 this a success.

00:39:21.260 So when is

00:39:22.240 one out of three

00:39:22.840 a success?

00:39:24.380 Like maybe a

00:39:25.680 baseball player?

00:39:27.300 You know,

00:39:27.440 if you're batting

00:39:27.960 one out of three,

00:39:28.620 that looks pretty

00:39:29.160 good.

00:39:29.420 But I'm not

00:39:29.760 taking credit

00:39:30.300 for, you know,

00:39:31.480 if we go into

00:39:32.120 any kind of

00:39:32.920 negotiations with

00:39:34.200 them over the

00:39:34.820 future of Gaza

00:39:35.660 and they're still

00:39:36.980 holding prisoners,

00:39:40.080 prisoners, no.

00:39:42.380 No.

00:39:43.080 Unless we're

00:39:43.680 getting all the

00:39:44.320 Americans out

00:39:45.020 and then I'd

00:39:45.540 feel different.

00:39:46.340 If we get all

00:39:46.860 the Americans

00:39:47.360 out, then maybe

00:39:49.840 you talk about

00:39:50.480 Gaza.

00:39:51.880 Maybe that's

00:39:52.640 different.

00:39:53.300 But Israel

00:39:53.820 shouldn't put up

00:39:54.460 with that.

00:39:55.560 Israel should

00:39:56.080 say we want

00:39:56.620 100% or we're

00:39:58.220 going to break

00:39:58.680 you.

00:40:01.040 Claudia was

00:40:01.820 leaving for her

00:40:02.440 pickleball tournament.

00:40:03.400 I've been

00:40:03.620 visualizing my

00:40:04.420 match all week.

00:40:05.880 She was so

00:40:06.500 focused on

00:40:07.000 visualizing that

00:40:07.880 she didn't see

00:40:08.480 the column behind

00:40:09.140 her car on

00:40:09.920 her backhand

00:40:10.460 side.

00:40:11.880 Good thing

00:40:12.580 Claudia is with

00:40:13.220 Intact, the

00:40:14.020 insurer with the

00:40:14.820 largest network of

00:40:15.680 auto service centers

00:40:16.500 in the country.

00:40:17.600 Everything was

00:40:18.140 taken care of

00:40:18.780 under one roof

00:40:19.520 and she was on

00:40:20.200 her way in a

00:40:20.660 rental car in

00:40:21.420 no time.

00:40:22.060 I made it to

00:40:22.800 my tournament

00:40:23.420 and lost in the

00:40:24.700 first round.

00:40:25.520 But you got

00:40:26.360 there on time.

00:40:27.380 Intact Insurance,

00:40:28.540 your auto service

00:40:29.300 ace.

00:40:30.000 Certain conditions

00:40:30.540 apply.

00:40:32.220 So, also

00:40:33.580 MSNBC, they

00:40:35.440 brought on a,

00:40:36.240 so an Airy

00:40:37.660 Milber show,

00:40:38.800 brought on a

00:40:39.360 former Clinton

00:40:39.920 ambassador, David

00:40:41.120 Ross.

00:40:41.980 Now, a former

00:40:42.700 Clinton ambassador

00:40:43.740 talking about the

00:40:45.200 Israel-Hamas ceasefire,

00:40:47.480 you could reliably

00:40:48.520 expect that a

00:40:50.600 Democrat, especially

00:40:51.620 one associated with

00:40:52.700 the Clintons, is

00:40:53.900 going to, you

00:40:54.880 know, give the

00:40:55.340 credit to Biden

00:40:56.180 and say that

00:40:57.400 Trump is just a

00:40:58.240 blowhard, right?

00:40:59.760 That's why you have

00:41:00.560 somebody like that

00:41:01.240 on MSNBC, to say

00:41:03.060 things that MSNBC

00:41:04.400 wants them to say.

00:41:05.220 So, instead,

00:41:08.780 instead, the

00:41:10.340 Ambassador Ross

00:41:11.400 said, why now?

00:41:13.400 It's because of the

00:41:14.000 Trump effect.

00:41:16.680 Netanyahu wasn't

00:41:17.460 going to say yes,

00:41:18.720 but then he did.

00:41:19.640 But that changed,

00:41:20.460 right?

00:41:20.780 I think that changed

00:41:21.720 this morning.

00:41:22.740 Netanyahu actually

00:41:23.660 turned.

00:41:24.400 But what's

00:41:24.800 interesting about it

00:41:25.600 is that he brings

00:41:26.360 on a, you know,

00:41:27.980 a notable Democrat,

00:41:29.700 and even the

00:41:30.480 notable Democrat

00:41:31.280 is saying, yeah,

00:41:32.060 Trump got this

00:41:32.800 done.

00:41:33.760 Trump got this

00:41:34.380 done.

00:41:34.560 Now, the funny

00:41:35.600 part, if you get

00:41:36.960 to see the video,

00:41:37.900 I think I've

00:41:38.400 reposted it this

00:41:39.300 morning, you have

00:41:40.420 to watch Ari

00:41:41.700 Melber's face when

00:41:43.800 the interview goes

00:41:44.680 exactly the opposite

00:41:45.720 of what would be

00:41:46.600 ideal for their

00:41:47.480 audience.

00:41:48.960 So, I don't know

00:41:50.840 if I can do it.

00:41:51.640 So, as soon as

00:41:52.740 Melber hears it, he

00:41:54.480 goes into this

00:41:55.100 frown.

00:41:57.020 But it's like the

00:41:58.780 biggest frown, like

00:42:01.380 my mouth doesn't

00:42:02.480 even do it.

00:42:02.980 It almost looks like

00:42:03.660 a joke frown.

00:42:06.800 You have to see

00:42:07.880 it visually to get

00:42:09.080 the full beauty.

00:42:10.080 I've never seen

00:42:10.900 his face turn a

00:42:12.580 smile upside down

00:42:13.440 so fast.

00:42:14.120 Like, it's all

00:42:15.140 good news at the

00:42:16.760 time it was being

00:42:17.340 reported before it

00:42:18.420 got delayed.

00:42:20.000 It looked like it

00:42:20.760 was just all good

00:42:21.380 news.

00:42:22.440 Oh, hostages coming

00:42:23.940 back, at least some

00:42:24.980 of them.

00:42:26.040 Trump effect caused

00:42:27.280 it.

00:42:27.940 And Ari is just

00:42:28.560 like, oh,

00:42:29.120 this is going

00:42:31.800 off the rails.

00:42:33.100 It's too good for

00:42:33.880 Trump.

00:42:34.680 We will lose

00:42:35.340 what's left of

00:42:36.000 our audience.

00:42:42.280 Glenn Greenwald

00:42:43.180 was pointing out

00:42:43.860 that the New York

00:42:45.020 Times had a

00:42:46.600 headline right

00:42:47.680 after Trump

00:42:48.520 won, so a few

00:42:50.800 months ago, and

00:42:52.160 the headline was

00:42:53.400 Trump's win is

00:42:54.500 likely to prolong

00:42:55.600 Gaza talks

00:42:56.480 uncertainty.

00:42:58.460 Well, so we're

00:43:00.060 mocking them for

00:43:01.000 guessing the

00:43:01.840 opposite of what

00:43:02.460 happened, but

00:43:03.560 really the headline

00:43:04.720 says it's going to

00:43:05.660 prolong the

00:43:06.280 uncertainty.

00:43:08.360 You know, but

00:43:09.840 Trump works on

00:43:10.600 uncertainty, so

00:43:12.000 it's half true.

00:43:14.540 He would

00:43:15.200 intentionally

00:43:15.700 increase the

00:43:16.460 uncertainty because

00:43:17.220 it's a negotiating

00:43:18.560 point.

00:43:21.580 But I like to

00:43:22.640 say that the

00:43:23.260 reality is whatever

00:43:24.140 predicts best.

00:43:25.180 So if you

00:43:26.340 predicted the

00:43:27.040 Trump effect would

00:43:27.980 make things

00:43:28.580 better, you win.

00:43:29.960 If you predicted

00:43:30.900 that Trump would

00:43:32.200 make things go

00:43:33.000 worse, you lose.

00:43:34.900 So New York

00:43:35.380 Times appears to

00:43:36.400 be closer to the

00:43:37.420 wrong prediction

00:43:38.180 side than the

00:43:38.900 right prediction

00:43:39.420 side.

00:43:40.680 Well, in the

00:43:41.620 news, a

00:43:42.380 cartoonist named

00:43:44.060 Darren Bell, he's

00:43:46.140 a black

00:43:46.600 cartoonist.

00:43:47.860 He was a BLM

00:43:49.180 activist.

00:43:50.500 He was the

00:43:50.960 first black

00:43:51.640 cartoonist to win

00:43:52.480 the Pulitzer

00:43:53.000 Prize.

00:43:53.460 So he did

00:43:55.180 comics, Canderville

00:43:56.780 and Rudy

00:43:57.300 Park, and

00:43:59.300 they're still on

00:44:00.100 Washington Post

00:44:00.660 websites.

00:44:01.300 Let's see, what

00:44:01.760 did he get in

00:44:03.020 trouble for?

00:44:05.340 Oh, he was

00:44:07.560 pedophile.

00:44:08.660 Now, the

00:44:09.420 specific charges

00:44:11.420 were possession

00:44:12.780 of child-related

00:44:15.280 materials that are

00:44:18.760 highly illegal.

00:44:20.660 Now, you know

00:44:22.020 what I always

00:44:22.520 say.

00:44:22.760 No matter

00:44:23.840 how bad the

00:44:24.940 charge is, in

00:44:26.740 the United

00:44:27.120 States, you're

00:44:29.380 innocent until

00:44:30.120 proven guilty.

00:44:31.600 Now, you've

00:44:32.080 heard me say

00:44:32.540 that a million

00:44:33.020 times, right?

00:44:34.580 So, innocent

00:44:36.960 until proven

00:44:37.580 guilty.

00:44:38.160 The only thing

00:44:38.820 we know is

00:44:39.540 that he was

00:44:39.920 accused.

00:44:42.280 You know, I

00:44:42.520 wonder, did

00:44:44.940 Darren Bell say

00:44:45.800 anything when I

00:44:46.440 got canceled by

00:44:47.960 the Washington

00:44:48.400 Post, his

00:44:49.040 newspaper?

00:44:50.460 I wonder, let

00:44:51.020 me see, let me

00:44:51.960 check that out.

00:44:53.440 Oh, yeah, he

00:44:53.780 did.

00:44:54.140 Yeah, Darren

00:44:54.680 Bell dumped

00:44:57.320 on me and

00:44:58.120 never contacted

00:44:58.980 me, which he

00:45:00.500 could have easily

00:45:01.020 done, to ask me

00:45:02.700 what the context

00:45:03.400 was.

00:45:03.780 Instead, he

00:45:04.180 just, he

00:45:04.580 dumped on me.

00:45:05.980 So, it's

00:45:06.440 interesting.

00:45:06.860 He treated me

00:45:07.480 as I was

00:45:08.420 guilty, presumed

00:45:10.680 guilty.

00:45:11.920 Huh.

00:45:12.940 Okay, I'm

00:45:13.660 rethinking this.

00:45:14.420 He's guilty as

00:45:15.080 shit, and I hope

00:45:16.700 he fries.

00:45:17.040 All right.

00:45:20.900 And by the

00:45:21.560 way, winning

00:45:22.080 the Pulitzer

00:45:22.660 Prize is

00:45:23.600 complete bullshit.

00:45:25.080 Do you know

00:45:25.420 what it takes to

00:45:26.020 win the Pulitzer

00:45:26.860 Prize?

00:45:28.500 Let me explain

00:45:29.320 how the meeting

00:45:29.860 went.

00:45:31.140 We're really

00:45:31.820 going to need

00:45:32.240 this to give

00:45:32.860 this to a

00:45:33.320 black guy,

00:45:34.340 because most

00:45:34.840 cartoonists are

00:45:35.580 white, and so

00:45:36.260 it's just like

00:45:36.780 one white guy

00:45:37.840 after another.

00:45:38.740 Like, who do

00:45:39.240 we have as a

00:45:39.900 person of color?

00:45:41.020 All right, we

00:45:41.640 found an

00:45:41.980 Hispanic.

00:45:42.360 Hispanic is

00:45:45.720 good, moving

00:45:46.660 in the right

00:45:47.020 direction, but

00:45:48.620 really need a

00:45:50.260 black cartoonist.

00:45:51.760 And then they

00:45:52.080 look at the

00:45:52.500 black cartoonist,

00:45:53.540 and let me be

00:45:54.260 honest, the

00:45:55.620 most notable

00:45:57.940 black cartoonists

00:45:58.940 are terrible.

00:46:00.340 There really

00:46:01.140 aren't any good

00:46:01.820 black cartoonists.

00:46:04.040 This is well

00:46:04.960 known among the

00:46:05.760 cartoon industry.

00:46:07.440 Now, not

00:46:07.920 because of any,

00:46:09.060 it's not because

00:46:09.860 they're black,

00:46:10.960 it's not because

00:46:11.640 of any genes or

00:46:12.680 anything like

00:46:13.140 that.

00:46:13.640 It's just a

00:46:14.160 fact.

00:46:15.200 Like, I'm not

00:46:15.700 making any

00:46:16.440 larger statement

00:46:17.800 about being

00:46:19.080 black.

00:46:19.640 That's not,

00:46:20.220 that has nothing

00:46:20.900 to do with

00:46:21.360 this.

00:46:22.080 It's just the

00:46:22.700 fact that if

00:46:23.840 you're trying to

00:46:24.580 give the

00:46:25.140 Pulitzer Prize,

00:46:26.420 which is just a

00:46:27.040 bullshit prize,

00:46:28.220 a little group

00:46:29.020 of people decide

00:46:30.520 what comic they

00:46:31.440 like that week,

00:46:32.600 or that year,

00:46:33.300 I guess, and

00:46:34.200 then they give

00:46:34.640 them the prize.

00:46:35.840 It has no,

00:46:37.840 absolutely no

00:46:39.260 legitimacy.

00:46:41.640 It's not based

00:46:42.980 on like all

00:46:43.600 the cartoonists

00:46:44.360 voting or the

00:46:45.580 public weighed

00:46:46.320 in.

00:46:46.580 It's nothing

00:46:46.900 like that.

00:46:47.460 It's this little

00:46:48.220 group of people

00:46:48.960 who just say,

00:46:50.880 you know,

00:46:51.100 we better give

00:46:51.580 it to a black

00:46:52.080 guy this time.

00:46:53.660 Now, I wasn't

00:46:54.660 in the room,

00:46:55.740 but I can

00:46:56.300 pretty well

00:46:57.080 guarantee you

00:46:57.900 that because he

00:46:58.700 was a black

00:46:59.140 cartoonist,

00:46:59.960 that's why he

00:47:00.760 won the Pulitzer

00:47:01.300 Prize.

00:47:01.980 The Pulitzer Prize

00:47:02.920 is almost as

00:47:03.780 disgraced as

00:47:05.480 somebody who got

00:47:07.360 caught with a

00:47:07.980 bunch of child

00:47:09.160 related content.

00:47:11.640 So, there's

00:47:13.840 that.

00:47:15.120 Meanwhile, Jonathan

00:47:18.020 Turley is writing

00:47:18.860 about CNN's

00:47:20.140 lawsuit where

00:47:21.480 they're defending

00:47:22.160 Jake Tapper and

00:47:23.360 themselves from

00:47:25.220 accusations that

00:47:26.420 they, what's the

00:47:27.960 word, defamed?

00:47:29.440 I'm no lawyer, so I

00:47:30.760 may be using the

00:47:31.380 wrong words, but

00:47:32.100 they defamed

00:47:32.820 somebody who was

00:47:34.520 a guest on their

00:47:35.260 show and their

00:47:36.700 correspondent was

00:47:37.800 interviewing him

00:47:38.460 regarding Afghanistan

00:47:39.900 and the person

00:47:41.920 they interviewed

00:47:42.360 was over there

00:47:43.680 doing useful

00:47:44.460 things and trying

00:47:45.180 to help, but for

00:47:46.740 reasons that are

00:47:47.340 not clear, the

00:47:48.840 correspondent and

00:47:49.960 then I think Jake

00:47:50.820 Tapper may have

00:47:51.480 mirrored the

00:47:52.220 correspondent, decided

00:47:53.860 that they would

00:47:54.700 treat the guy that

00:47:55.560 they were

00:47:55.800 interviewing, who

00:47:57.580 as far as anybody

00:47:58.300 knows, was just

00:47:59.040 trying to help

00:47:59.560 people, no

00:48:00.620 criminal, nothing

00:48:01.300 like that, they

00:48:02.400 tried to treat

00:48:03.380 him like he was

00:48:04.960 part of the story

00:48:05.800 they were telling

00:48:06.400 about really bad

00:48:07.640 people doing bad

00:48:08.600 things over there

00:48:09.340 now, details don't

00:48:11.120 matter, but just

00:48:12.540 imagine whatever is

00:48:13.540 the worst thing you

00:48:14.260 can think of, you

00:48:15.340 know, it's in that

00:48:15.820 category, so the

00:48:17.740 poor guy goes on

00:48:18.740 their network, does

00:48:20.400 them a favor, you

00:48:21.560 know, being content

00:48:22.620 on their show, and

00:48:24.740 also is only doing

00:48:25.660 good things as far as

00:48:26.600 we know, like he's

00:48:28.440 positive impact over

00:48:30.260 there, and they

00:48:31.240 decided to lump him

00:48:32.160 in, this is the

00:48:33.040 accusation, they

00:48:34.180 decided to lump him

00:48:35.080 in, and they

00:48:35.880 decided to go after

00:48:36.780 him, and actually

00:48:38.080 destroy him, and

00:48:39.080 apparently the, that

00:48:40.840 there's a, you

00:48:43.320 know, emails to

00:48:44.300 that effect, now

00:48:46.680 they didn't have the

00:48:47.400 information that

00:48:48.120 would, that would

00:48:49.000 support their going

00:48:50.140 after him, but they

00:48:51.240 very clearly said

00:48:52.220 they were, and then

00:48:54.480 they did this trick

00:48:55.380 totally points this

00:48:56.620 out, you've heard of

00:48:57.220 this before, so the

00:48:58.640 press, when they're

00:48:59.460 going to, when

00:49:00.980 they're going to

00:49:01.800 publish, they'll,

00:49:03.920 about two hours

00:49:05.000 before they push the

00:49:05.940 publish button,

00:49:07.220 they'll wait till

00:49:07.740 they'll write it to

00:49:08.400 the end, and then

00:49:09.620 they'll contact the

00:49:10.640 person they're writing

00:49:11.320 about and saying, do

00:49:12.080 you have any

00:49:12.500 comment, now the

00:49:13.880 reason they wait

00:49:14.540 until it's right

00:49:15.140 toward publication

00:49:16.120 is to make sure the

00:49:17.780 person doesn't have

00:49:18.500 enough time to

00:49:19.080 comment, and then

00:49:20.340 when they say, none

00:49:21.040 of that's true, too

00:49:22.700 late, you've already

00:49:24.120 published it, now

00:49:25.520 this is a well-known

00:49:26.720 standard trick, they,

00:49:28.700 you know, they always

00:49:29.540 do it if it's a hit

00:49:30.340 piece, and not a, they

00:49:32.200 don't even always do it,

00:49:33.080 but when they do it,

00:49:34.000 it's just part of the

00:49:35.140 hit piece thing, and

00:49:36.260 then they can go on the

00:49:37.080 air and say, well, we

00:49:38.340 tried to reach Mr.

00:49:39.900 So-and-so, but he had

00:49:40.880 no comment in time for

00:49:42.420 the publication, which

00:49:44.060 makes it sound like he

00:49:45.160 doesn't have an argument,

00:49:46.220 doesn't it?

00:49:47.440 But he tricked them, he

00:49:49.780 responded within two

00:49:50.840 hours.

00:49:52.300 Well, what do you think

00:49:53.120 the correspondent, the

00:49:54.780 person who was the first

00:49:56.120 one to accuse this guy,

00:49:57.300 I guess, what do you

00:49:58.200 think he said in writing

00:49:59.620 when the person who is

00:50:01.560 the most important

00:50:02.320 person in the story

00:50:03.600 responded, which is,

00:50:06.160 of course, exactly what

00:50:07.060 you should want, if

00:50:08.100 you're being honest, you

00:50:09.840 want him to respond.

00:50:11.400 Do you know what the

00:50:11.820 response was?

00:50:16.580 Effing Young just

00:50:17.600 texted, Young is the

00:50:19.540 name of the guy, Effing

00:50:21.380 Young just texted,

00:50:22.520 because he ruined their

00:50:23.400 whole play.

00:50:24.500 He got back to him

00:50:25.600 within two hours.

00:50:26.400 Anyway, so then, here's

00:50:32.920 the funniest part.

00:50:34.860 The defense for CNN is

00:50:39.800 David Axelrod.

00:50:41.200 He's leading the defense.

00:50:42.620 I guess the other defense

00:50:43.580 attorney just got taken

00:50:45.520 off the job for being

00:50:46.440 crazy.

00:50:48.140 And, I don't know,

00:50:49.660 being crazy is too far.

00:50:51.360 That's an oversimplification.

00:50:53.580 But, so David Axelrod,

00:50:56.940 who, if you follow

00:50:58.260 politics, you know, is a

00:50:59.320 well-known consultant

00:51:01.060 type to the Democrats.

00:51:02.860 I don't know how much

00:51:03.720 he's practiced law

00:51:05.260 lately.

00:51:07.260 Like, kind of a strange

00:51:08.680 choice to be, I don't

00:51:10.400 know, maybe he's a

00:51:11.440 terrific lawyer who

00:51:12.680 turned into a political

00:51:13.760 consultant, but I'm not

00:51:15.780 aware that he did a lot

00:51:16.840 of practicing.

00:51:17.800 Did he?

00:51:19.280 Maybe he did.

00:51:20.220 I'm not up on it.

00:51:21.540 But anyway, so Axelrod

00:51:22.880 gets up there, and he's

00:51:24.700 accusing the accuser of

00:51:30.880 being a liar.

00:51:31.880 He goes, you called, oh,

00:51:34.480 so he just goes off on a

00:51:36.360 rant, and he's waving a

00:51:38.400 document and saying, you

00:51:39.760 know, you claim this lies,

00:51:41.820 it's lies, it's lies.

00:51:43.420 So Axelrod was doing his,

00:51:45.220 having his moment, his

00:51:46.900 theatrical moment.

00:51:48.040 You lied about this.

00:51:49.080 You lied about that.

00:51:50.300 You lied about that.

00:51:51.160 And then the plaintiff, the

00:51:55.680 plaintiff attorney just

00:51:58.160 destroyed it by just

00:51:59.780 mentioning the timing.

00:52:01.200 Well, actually, that was,

00:52:02.380 you know, before this or

00:52:03.220 after that.

00:52:03.720 It was completely

00:52:04.420 debunked.

00:52:05.480 So the entire escapade was

00:52:08.860 just wiped off the table by

00:52:10.540 the fact that it was not

00:52:11.840 supported by fairly easily

00:52:14.160 easily found facts.

00:52:16.780 So it was so bad that the

00:52:19.640 judge actually said to

00:52:20.980 Axelrod, and I've never

00:52:22.100 heard anything like this

00:52:22.880 before, he said, quote,

00:52:24.540 this is the judge.

00:52:25.820 He said, you called him a

00:52:27.160 liar multiple times there,

00:52:28.980 he told Axelrod.

00:52:30.360 And he said he owed an

00:52:32.480 apology to the plaintiff.

00:52:33.860 After telling CNN that, quote,

00:52:36.960 this isn't kindergarten, he

00:52:40.380 added, right now, your

00:52:42.300 credibility with me, Mr.

00:52:43.860 Axelrod, is about none.

00:52:47.840 Have you ever seen a judge

00:52:50.280 demand that the lawyer

00:52:53.680 apologize to the plaintiff?

00:52:55.360 That's as hard as you can

00:52:59.180 fail as a lawyer, isn't it?

00:53:01.800 Can you fail harder than

00:53:02.940 that?

00:53:03.820 And imagine being on the

00:53:04.780 jury, and basically the

00:53:07.580 judge just said, this team

00:53:09.420 is a bunch of idiots.

00:53:11.240 That's what he said.

00:53:12.720 He said, this one side is a

00:53:14.160 bunch of idiots.

00:53:15.260 He didn't say anything about

00:53:16.140 the other side.

00:53:19.140 You're on a jury, and you

00:53:20.560 hear the judge say very

00:53:22.820 clearly, you guys are just

00:53:23.820 idiots.

00:53:24.260 You're like kindergarten.

00:53:25.360 You better apologize.

00:53:27.360 Oh, my God.

00:53:28.860 I don't think this could be

00:53:30.460 worse for CNN.

00:53:34.320 Wow.

00:53:37.020 Meanwhile, TikTok is

00:53:38.480 planned to be banned on the

00:53:40.680 19th?

00:53:43.120 Or the, yeah.

00:53:44.420 So, but Trump is talking

00:53:45.580 about some kind of an

00:53:46.520 executive order to save it.

00:53:48.320 I think people don't believe

00:53:49.720 that that would be

00:53:50.860 effective to save it.

00:53:53.440 So, in a few days,

00:53:55.020 we could see that TikTok

00:53:56.660 becomes, uh, first

00:53:59.000 orphaned, so keep running,

00:54:01.080 but you can't upload any

00:54:02.160 new content.

00:54:03.540 And so you could keep

00:54:04.700 watching what was already

00:54:05.700 there for a while, but

00:54:06.820 presumably that'll go away

00:54:08.840 after a while.

00:54:09.740 So, I don't know what's

00:54:10.920 going to happen.

00:54:11.440 Um, Trump says he wants to save

00:54:15.640 it, but he also did well

00:54:16.820 on, on TikTok.

00:54:18.660 And I think Trump found the,

00:54:20.000 the exact sweet spot, the

00:54:22.500 exact sweet spot was saying

00:54:24.940 you want to save it, trying a

00:54:27.500 little bit, an executive order

00:54:29.000 isn't much work, you just sign

00:54:30.300 it, and then say, I tried, you

00:54:33.180 know, I tried, but other people

00:54:35.740 got rid of it.

00:54:36.300 But that's perfect.

00:54:39.240 Politically, it's perfect.

00:54:40.600 Because he's on the side of

00:54:41.820 the young who wanted to keep

00:54:42.720 it, but you know, what can

00:54:44.960 you do?

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00:55:04.620 Um, so as I told you, the

00:55:06.760 Chinese drone making company

00:55:08.960 that makes just vast amount of

00:55:11.480 the total drones in the world,

00:55:12.940 and especially in the United

00:55:13.820 States, called DJI, they got

00:55:16.940 rid of their geo-fencing policy,

00:55:19.120 which is what prevented their

00:55:20.720 drones from going over

00:55:21.720 sensitive installations in the

00:55:23.600 United States and elsewhere, I

00:55:25.160 assume.

00:55:26.320 And, um, there are other

00:55:29.120 drones that did not have that

00:55:31.000 geo-fencing.

00:55:32.140 So, on one hand, all they're

00:55:34.300 doing is normalizing to their

00:55:36.200 competition.

00:55:37.440 On the other hand, their

00:55:39.600 competition is not China.

00:55:41.740 If China wants to go over our,

00:55:45.400 you know, military

00:55:46.880 military stuff, and we

00:55:48.780 suspect they might have some

00:55:50.460 way to, you know, control the

00:55:53.000 software and the drones, I

00:55:54.160 don't know.

00:55:54.820 I don't know how much of a risk

00:55:56.160 that is, but it seems to me that

00:55:58.220 this would be the time to ban

00:56:01.180 Chinese drones in America.

00:56:06.020 Can we really not make drones yet?

00:56:09.220 Are you telling me that an

00:56:10.760 American company can't make a

00:56:13.160 drone?

00:56:14.500 That's good.

00:56:15.940 I feel like America should be

00:56:17.400 able to make drones.

00:56:19.000 Like, it's not exactly a bunch of

00:56:20.560 secret technology or anything.

00:56:22.520 So, we'll see what happens with

00:56:25.280 that.

00:56:26.140 Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson had on the

00:56:28.140 mother of the open AI whistleblower

00:56:31.280 who was murdered in his apartment in

00:56:34.960 San Francisco just a few days after it

00:56:40.120 became known that he was that

00:56:41.200 dangerous to open AI.

00:56:43.200 And so, here's what she said.

00:56:44.880 The mother of Sushir Balaji, who was

00:56:47.480 the whistleblower, she told Tucker,

00:56:50.620 my son had documents against open AI.

00:56:52.920 They attacked him and killed him.

00:56:54.700 Now, she doesn't know that open AI

00:56:57.020 was behind it.

00:57:00.260 That's not known.

00:57:01.140 It's a reasonable, you know, gas.

00:57:07.860 So, I wouldn't rule it out.

00:57:10.940 And apparently, the documents that the

00:57:13.100 whistleblower had would have proven

00:57:15.420 that open AI was, quote, committing

00:57:17.480 crimes.

00:57:18.160 I don't know what kind.

00:57:20.060 And so, right after the New York Times

00:57:22.620 said he had documents that would

00:57:24.500 basically put open AI in an existential

00:57:28.820 threat, he got killed a few days later.

00:57:32.220 Now, that would be too much of a

00:57:33.940 coincidence for anybody to overlook.

00:57:36.680 And I'm sure that his mother is

00:57:39.360 feeling the same way.

00:57:40.600 But I'm going to add a little bit of

00:57:43.660 context.

00:57:44.720 Just a little bit.

00:57:46.940 The CEOs of normal companies are not

00:57:50.420 really murderers by nature.

00:57:52.440 And I've spent a little time with Sam

00:57:57.080 Altman, you know, just one-on-one

00:57:59.660 chatting with him for a while.

00:58:01.920 And I don't have the best, you know,

00:58:04.360 it's not like anybody's perfect at

00:58:06.020 judging human character.

00:58:08.220 But if he's a murderer, that would be

00:58:12.100 pretty surprising.

00:58:13.980 So, if you imagine that the head of it

00:58:16.580 ordered a hit, no.

00:58:19.020 I give that zero chance.

00:58:23.280 And I'd love to hear from anybody besides

00:58:25.760 Sam Altman's sister, who's a special

00:58:27.620 case.

00:58:28.500 But I'd love to hear anybody who knows

00:58:30.600 him well, give me an opinion.

00:58:33.500 Am I wrong?

00:58:35.140 He would be almost toward the bottom of

00:58:38.340 the list of somebody you think would go

00:58:40.960 kill somebody.

00:58:42.360 He's a pretty gentle soul.

00:58:44.160 I mean, he's a, you know, in terms of

00:58:46.040 in terms of business, he's a shark.

00:58:49.980 So, could I be wrong?

00:58:51.820 You know, because if he's a shark in

00:58:53.140 business, did I read him wrong?

00:58:56.860 I don't know.

00:58:57.740 Am I that bad at judging human

00:59:00.820 character?

00:59:01.840 So, I'm going to add a wrinkle to this.

00:59:04.720 Wrinkle number one.

00:59:06.360 There are individuals who have

00:59:08.940 investments probably that, you know,

00:59:12.180 may be so valuable that they would be

00:59:14.920 willing to kill just on their own,

00:59:17.320 whether open AI was in favor of it or

00:59:19.780 hated it or didn't know about it or

00:59:21.120 anything.

00:59:22.560 So, first of all, you can't, so you

00:59:24.720 can't, you can't rule out anybody who's

00:59:26.680 just an investor.

00:59:28.960 And I don't know the exact investment

00:59:31.120 architecture there to know if anybody

00:59:32.940 stands out.

00:59:35.620 Also, we've been told very clearly,

00:59:38.460 Mark Andreessen informed us, that the

00:59:41.280 intelligence apparatus of the United

00:59:43.620 States is said directly, said directly

00:59:47.440 to the people in the venture capital

00:59:49.740 community, don't fund a bunch of little

00:59:52.240 AI companies because we're not going to

00:59:54.280 let them work.

00:59:55.240 We're going to make sure there are just a

00:59:56.620 few, they're big ones, like open AI, and

01:00:00.340 we're going to basically have, they didn't

01:00:02.100 say this, but it's obvious, we're going

01:00:03.940 to have our, you know, our fingerprint on

01:00:05.720 it because it's too dangerous to just let it,

01:00:08.640 the free market, do whatever it wants.

01:00:10.020 Now, that's actually, I hate to say it.

01:00:15.980 That's not irresponsible.

01:00:18.220 That's not irresponsible.

01:00:19.780 The reason that we have an intelligence

01:00:21.300 group is to do the stuff that maybe if you

01:00:25.500 put it up for a vote, people will say, don't

01:00:27.060 do that, but it's kind of necessary.

01:00:29.260 It feels kind of necessary, even though I

01:00:32.640 hate it.

01:00:33.140 And even though the risk and the downside of

01:00:35.680 it are just through the roof, it just does

01:00:38.620 feel necessary that the intelligence people

01:00:40.620 would have to have a strong grip on AI, at

01:00:43.720 least for now, because we don't know if it

01:00:45.900 becomes a weapon.

01:00:46.780 We don't know if it becomes dangerous.

01:00:48.520 We don't know what it does to persuasion and

01:00:51.540 brainwashing.

01:00:53.280 I think from their perspective, let me say it

01:00:55.740 a different way.

01:00:56.440 Let me say it a different way.

01:00:57.340 If I say it like it's my opinion, then I think

01:01:00.360 that's out of my league.

01:01:02.400 So let me change that.

01:01:03.440 So forget my opinion.

01:01:06.040 If you're in the CIA, you want to control AI.

01:01:09.080 Yes?

01:01:09.940 Let's simplify.

01:01:11.000 If you're in the CIA, you probably think it's

01:01:14.240 at the top of your list of things to do.

01:01:17.460 You need to control the AI.

01:01:19.240 So if you assume that it's at the top of the

01:01:21.380 list and that they're the people who are

01:01:23.440 literally murderers and they're literally the

01:01:26.220 ones who make it look like it might have been

01:01:29.240 an accident or suicide or something like that,

01:01:31.240 they're really the top suspects because I

01:01:35.100 definitely think that our intelligence people

01:01:37.500 would kill citizens of the United States if

01:01:40.780 they thought that the entire structure of the

01:01:43.700 industry was at risk.

01:01:46.600 So would Sam Altman do it?

01:01:49.780 I don't see it.

01:01:51.140 I just don't see it.

01:01:52.340 Would the company order a hit without the top

01:01:55.080 of the company knowing about it?

01:01:56.440 I don't know.

01:02:00.380 I mean, maybe.

01:02:01.940 Maybe.

01:02:03.140 You know, somebody, some underling just thought,

01:02:05.140 I'm going to take care of this.

01:02:06.180 I'll leave him out of it.

01:02:07.840 Maybe.

01:02:08.860 It doesn't seem super likely, but maybe.

01:02:13.180 But if you say the intelligence people had to do

01:02:16.440 it for the good of the United States, as much as

01:02:19.180 I hate that, you could certainly imagine that

01:02:23.360 being normal.

01:02:24.580 I hate to say it, but that would be sort of normal.

01:02:29.680 So we will never find out the truth of this story.

01:02:35.960 All right.

01:02:36.880 I saw a post by an ex by Joey Manorino,

01:02:42.500 who said he was on the way back from the airport

01:02:45.500 and he just landed in Panama, he said.

01:02:49.680 And on the way back from the airport in Panama,

01:02:53.340 I've seen about five billboards with Chinese writing

01:02:56.440 and a massive bank of China building downtown.

01:03:01.480 As soon as you see it in person,

01:03:03.220 you immediately understand why Trump is going so hard

01:03:05.900 after the Panama Canal.

01:03:08.220 Yep.

01:03:09.080 Yeah.

01:03:09.600 The Chinification of Panama is a risk.

01:03:12.940 I mean, it's a huge risk.

01:03:15.580 It's enormous risk.

01:03:17.320 So before I thought all Trump wanted was a better deal

01:03:21.460 for our ships in the Panama Canal,

01:03:24.120 because apparently the cost for one ship to go through

01:03:27.420 could be as much as half a million dollars.

01:03:30.080 And Trump would say, hey, we built that canal

01:03:32.380 and sold it to you for a dollar.

01:03:34.520 You know, we should get a deal compared to other countries.

01:03:37.340 Now, that's just good basic negotiating.

01:03:41.000 But the Chinification of Panama is by far the bigger problem.

01:03:45.860 You know, not the half a million dollars per ship.

01:03:49.140 So if before, so before knowing this,

01:03:53.380 or at least getting this extra flavor on it,

01:03:55.840 I would have said, you know what?

01:03:57.880 If we could make a deal to, you know,

01:04:00.720 maybe change who runs the Panama Canal

01:04:03.820 so it's less China.

01:04:04.680 If we could maybe make a deal where we don't pay,

01:04:08.660 but other people do, that'd be good.

01:04:12.040 We don't need to, like, put our military down there

01:04:15.400 and exert our big old control over the whole country.

01:04:19.820 But now I think maybe we do.

01:04:22.440 Now I think maybe we do.

01:04:24.080 We might actually need to militarily intervene

01:04:27.100 because there's no freaking way

01:04:29.440 we're going to let Panama

01:04:31.700 go completely under China's control

01:04:34.220 if they're not already there.

01:04:36.900 So yes, if this is as big a problem as it looks,

01:04:41.860 you know, without total information at my hands,

01:04:45.260 Trump might need to go hard

01:04:47.880 and you should get ready for that.

01:04:51.340 All right.

01:04:52.000 Yeah, you know, I hate to even bring it up,

01:04:58.500 but China taking Taiwan

01:05:01.460 is looking bigger and bigger.

01:05:05.800 But here's what I wonder.

01:05:07.360 Like, what would be the best thing

01:05:10.340 that America could do

01:05:11.500 if China decided to make a move on Taiwan?

01:05:15.540 Now, one would be just go to war.

01:05:19.860 Not ideal.

01:05:21.420 Not ideal.

01:05:22.520 The other would be to just walk away

01:05:24.300 and say, all right, well,

01:05:25.540 that was going to happen sooner or later.

01:05:27.280 You know, no point in fighting over it.

01:05:28.900 But the third opportunity

01:05:32.080 is terrible,

01:05:36.160 but I could see it happening,

01:05:38.700 which is that if China moved in

01:05:41.080 and it was clear that there was nothing

01:05:42.600 that would happen to stop them,

01:05:45.280 would the United States take out

01:05:47.900 the chip manufacturing in Taiwan?

01:05:51.380 Just bomb it.

01:05:52.380 And the answer is, maybe.

01:05:57.880 You know, it wouldn't stop them

01:05:59.260 from rebuilding it in China

01:06:00.680 or rebuilding it after China owns them

01:06:02.500 because you wouldn't be able

01:06:03.900 to get rid of the expertise.

01:06:05.940 You know, the people is what allows them

01:06:08.540 to build a chip-making place.

01:06:11.840 So, but they could certainly slow them down

01:06:14.340 until, you know, maybe until the United States

01:06:17.420 could figure out how to compete on chips.

01:06:19.520 So, I wouldn't rule out

01:06:23.940 that the entire chip-making industry in Taiwan

01:06:27.660 would go up in smoke

01:06:28.960 if China rolls in

01:06:30.940 because there's nothing else you can do.

01:06:33.280 And if our biggest problem is

01:06:34.720 we need access to chips

01:06:36.560 and we're going to lose it

01:06:37.480 because China takes over

01:06:38.520 and China's going to have all the good chips,

01:06:40.880 which, by the way,

01:06:42.180 they're not allowed to have.

01:06:43.820 They're not allowed to have the chips

01:06:45.380 that are being built

01:06:46.840 on the island they think they own.

01:06:49.520 So, reverse this in your mind.

01:06:53.240 Imagine it's America

01:06:54.500 and let's say

01:06:56.460 the Virgin Islands

01:06:58.760 that we think we own

01:07:00.640 is the only place that makes good chips

01:07:03.960 and they wouldn't sell it to the United States

01:07:05.480 but they would sell it to China.

01:07:07.260 Would we put up with that?

01:07:08.880 Would we say,

01:07:09.560 well, you know,

01:07:11.080 we think we own you.

01:07:12.260 I mean, that's not a Taiwan

01:07:13.600 and it's not like the Virgin Islands.

01:07:16.760 So, the analogy doesn't work.

01:07:18.220 But I'm trying to make you imagine

01:07:20.600 what it would feel like

01:07:21.720 if you had some of the most valuable things

01:07:24.340 in the world on this island,

01:07:26.180 the high-end chips,

01:07:27.440 some of the most valuable things in the world,

01:07:29.400 those chips.

01:07:30.280 Nobody else can make them.

01:07:32.000 Like, if we could make them in the United States,

01:07:33.660 we had the know-how,

01:07:34.540 we'd be doing it.

01:07:36.180 We're trying,

01:07:36.780 but I don't think we're that close.

01:07:39.160 So,

01:07:40.380 if you imagine what it's like

01:07:43.420 that you're China

01:07:44.540 and you can't even buy

01:07:45.860 the essential chips you need

01:07:47.840 from the land that you think is yours

01:07:49.720 in the first place,

01:07:51.060 I don't see how they don't make a move.

01:07:54.960 I don't see how they don't make a move.

01:07:57.480 I think it's just a matter of time.

01:07:59.460 And this might be the timing

01:08:01.020 except Trump's in office

01:08:02.580 and I don't know.

01:08:04.140 So, here's what could stop it.

01:08:06.780 Trump could say,

01:08:08.160 China, there's one thing you need to know.

01:08:11.200 We're not going to let you

01:08:12.460 take control of the chip manufacturing.

01:08:15.320 We'll bomb it to the ground

01:08:16.720 as soon as your first,

01:08:19.080 the first moment

01:08:20.560 a Chinese foot from China mainland

01:08:23.880 reaches Taiwan,

01:08:25.460 we're going to eliminate

01:08:26.300 all of the structures.

01:08:29.000 We'll tell the people to get out

01:08:30.480 because we don't want to kill any people.

01:08:32.200 They're our allies after all.

01:08:33.520 But we will burn those factories.

01:08:35.140 So, if you think that what you're doing

01:08:37.380 is getting the chips,

01:08:38.920 you're not.

01:08:40.360 You could take over the country

01:08:41.660 because there's almost nothing

01:08:42.640 we could do about that

01:08:43.500 given the proximity and all that.

01:08:45.800 But,

01:08:46.420 you're definitely not going to keep the chips.

01:08:50.520 So,

01:08:51.100 what would they say?

01:08:52.440 Well,

01:08:52.820 here's that

01:08:53.420 Trump unpredictability thing.

01:08:56.600 The unpredictability is

01:08:58.160 they don't really know

01:08:59.800 if we'd do that.

01:09:01.440 Would they take a chance?

01:09:02.660 Not if they're smart.

01:09:06.240 If they're smart,

01:09:07.240 they'll wait another four years.

01:09:09.220 Because remember,

01:09:10.080 China's timeline is,

01:09:11.340 you know,

01:09:11.880 longer than ours.

01:09:13.300 And if they say,

01:09:14.320 all I have to do is wait four years

01:09:15.720 and see if I've got a better,

01:09:16.900 you know,

01:09:17.660 better opening.

01:09:18.900 It wouldn't be smart to go

01:09:20.840 as long as Trump

01:09:22.440 has that threat over them

01:09:23.800 and they believe

01:09:24.560 that he's the only president

01:09:25.880 who would ever do that.

01:09:27.560 Because it's so far out of the box.

01:09:29.900 It's so far out of the box.

01:09:31.080 We only think of,

01:09:32.040 you know,

01:09:32.500 defend Taiwan

01:09:33.420 or not defend Taiwan.

01:09:35.400 Binary.

01:09:36.040 It's not binary at all.

01:09:38.320 You can ruin it

01:09:39.940 so China isn't so happy

01:09:41.640 about getting it in the first place.

01:09:43.280 Although they would be happy.

01:09:46.300 All right.

01:09:47.020 So,

01:09:47.680 that's all I got for now.

01:09:51.100 And,

01:09:51.660 thanks for joining.

01:09:52.900 I'm going to say hi

01:09:53.720 to the

01:09:54.600 locals,

01:09:55.720 people,

01:09:56.060 privately.

01:09:57.820 But for the rest of you,

01:09:58.940 thanks for joining

01:09:59.500 and I'll see you tomorrow.

01:10:01.720 Same time.

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